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| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:19:08 - 11:30:48 |
| 影片長度 |
700 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、邀請相關部會首長就「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算執行情形及成效」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案(114年度)」（僅詢答）。
【預算提案截止時間：11月27日（三）中午12時】
【11月20日及21日二天一次會】） |
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教育部長、交通部長 |
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來我先請教政部長政部長延續剛剛賴委員的質詢本席看到也覺得非常的離譜欸等一下您剛剛講是說國防部宣布要在政大做一個禮拜的教招事先都沒有跟教育部溝通是嗎 |
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跟委員報告我想這個內部裡面我再來了解我確實是沒有說到這個你不知道但是通常這樣一個我相信它是屬於大學的一個全責在大學在怎麼樣大學全責教昭以往沒有發生過那 |
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今天突然講說要叫招而且是20號有運洩、居洩的物資進入校園禮拜六有幹部進入校園25號有100名叫招員進駐28號行軍訓練禮拜五才解編換言之他的 |
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完成的訓練全都已經出來了那現在有同學看到也會現在已經有同學看到說穿迷彩服的阿兵哥在一樓大廳來來回回走動場勘就到目前為止我們教育部身為教育主管機關後知後覺不聞不問不過跟我們報告我們確實在大學之前有沒有表達過我現在我都還想問說之前有沒有表達跟國防部表達不合適 |
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有地形、地貌、教招有影響,但是國防部有提出這樣的需求,那我們教育部難道就是認為說沒關係啦?好理啦?什麼時候?有沒有表達不合適,但是國防部霸王硬上弓就是要?還是怎麼樣? |
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跟委員報告就我們目前的一個辦法他是由縣市後備指揮部依國環部的一個整體規劃的需求來這個競洽所選定的學校來辦理也就是說由地方政府的地方的政府的這個後備指揮部然後直接跟學校來接洽以目前的一個辦法是依據什麼樣的辦法誰定的辦法 |
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就這個場地來看這個部長現在重點在於你是教育主管機關我現在我推估是你跟我們一樣都是看到了報導才知道那如果這樣會覺得事情更大條欸就代表是說今天國防部他想選定哪一個學校他直接自己去溝通教育部也不聞不問管不著那如果今天是政大本席的選區 |
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淡水河口也是先被國防部長講是說這個訓練的首要之區因為有可能會有斬首行動那未來會不會淡江大學、甄理大學、聖約翰大學 |
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跟委員報告,我想...然後我們教育部都沒發動我們最在意的是不是影響到老師的教學跟學生的...那現在就是以教學研究您覺得教招人來來來,部長部長來,部長您是政大校友嘛是啊您覺得說這有迷彩妝的阿兵哥進入到校園有一百名的教招人員有軍械有武器裝備設備進入到校園會不會影響 |
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市長,記不記得我們上個禮拜在同一個場地的時候,所有大專院校的校長來?是。 |
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我是不是才質詢跟請教是說有沒有信心幫教育部這些大學校長解決柴米油鹽降醋茶的問題我也期許說你不要換位置就換腦袋因為你過去是中山大學的校長我也肯定你過去在中山大學服務很不錯那如果說今天國防部選定中山大學你身為前校長要不要強講話你可以接受國防部來中山大學嗎如果你還是校長的話 |
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我想學校在這個場地上的一些使用基本上一定最高的一個規準就是對老師的教學、學生的學習教學研究上會不會產生一些干擾是嗎?所以部長我只問一句學校是為什麼服務學生、老師、研究是學校從以前到現在我們有想過說它要變成是教招的場地嗎? |
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我想基本上我們翻遍我們教育部的規定有教招場地這個是學校要提供的基本上他不是學校主要主要的一個服務是您講到重點了所以部長這件事情教育部能夠怎麼印起來我想我容我事後這一個會後了解然後再 |
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整個我掌握我再跟委員做一個詳細的一個報告很多國人都關心因為現在不是只是政大如果說政大沒有任何人講話那中山大學有可能是下一個以後全縣市我們所有的委員所在縣市你只要國防部一個命令都可以說我要借用學校場地 |
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大學可以借用那高中能不能借用高中能夠借用國中能不能借用到周邊全民皆兵所有學校都可以能夠同意嗎 |
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臺灣是已經要進入準戰爭狀態是不是?來部長你一個禮拜內正式的給本席...學校一定是知道的跟委員報告因為他一定要經過大學校宴裡邊學校通過他才會...來來來來部長我本席的時間真的有限啊但是如果說你要講我真的因為我其實準備...抱歉教育...交通部讓你在後面站學校一定知道廢話 |
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他都已經進入到學校校園都已經公告說20到28、25號要來叫召了學校當然知道但重點是學校能不能拒絕嘛 |
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今天國防部已經找到了政大政大有沒有說不的權利那不然的話怎麼會說讓他們進入到校園裡面做教導那我剛剛從頭到尾一直質詢的是說當政大收到這樣的一個命令的時候有沒有讓教育部知道至少政大它的位階上來講國防部比較大那我能不能找我的主管機關教育部部長對部長 |
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叫部長去講一下說你們辦這個會死的你不要來我們學校辦結果沒有啊我們現在聽到的是教育部長一推256完全不知道這個狀況沒有跟委員報告所以我才會那麼的關心就是說當大學政大他自己就可以同意了他也可以拒絕跟委員報告有嗎我們現在看到的就是已經被霸王硬上弓了嘛 |
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不是嗎?部長你現在發言是有經過了解還是說你只是揣測? |
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部長,我很實在話講,你的這個回答我真的沒有辦法接受,因為以大學來講,如果說國防部,就像你剛剛講的,因為一開始又先推地方政府就可以同意了,不用經過教育部,那如果說現在這樣講的話, |
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學校有沒有他的權利可以說不當然是可以的是嗎是我現在看起來是你完全不了解狀況根據委員報告真的我們現在整個大環境很多的思維也真的在改變譬如說我們在國防科技許多的人才也用我拜託一下好不好你是教育主管機關你要幫的是大學講話你現在一直 |
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542.258 |
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您把自己變成是國防部長了是不是我從來不敢預約我的一個部長你現在是希望大學裡面都要軍事訓練合理化今天政大明天台大後天中山跟委員報告我還是說這是屬於大學市裡面大學的一個發展他們一個選擇這個我們可以尊重謝謝部長 |
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543.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
549.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
是不是瞭解之後給本席跟我們財政委員會關心的委員一個報告?幾個部分一定要在這邊幫我們地方的鄉親再發聲第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
567.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
590.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
但海輕軌二期的計畫已經10月底送到鐵道局要審理,那這已經來來回回了應該有3次了,到目前是不是能夠加快速度,趕快審理完畢送行這邊?可以,我們可以再加速。太板輕軌可行性計畫也在10月28號新北市政府已經送到交通部,應該是鐵道局在審理。對,鐵道局,是。 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
590.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
608.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
那這兩個計畫都是事關重大這兩個計畫什麼時候能夠給我們新北市府一個具體的答案我理解他們現在大概針對這些這個報告請各單位表示意見那後面我們會盡快的把這些相關的意見說上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
610.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
628.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
因為這兩個計畫都已經來來回回了據我的理解應該有兩次到三次所以我們希望這一次就可以是最後一次是能夠合訂、競速合訂可以嗎?是對好那再來前瞻計畫裡面有停車場空間的一個部分當然現在有延期到114年的一個8月調整經費又總經費增加60億變260億 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
634.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
663.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
本席提出來因為淡水地區現在20萬的人口即將在這個禮拜就產生再加上你有看到相關的觀光景點淡水地區是過去這3年被國內國外人士認為是說最熱門的觀光景點之一所以很多人講說淡水的停車空間只有20年前蓋捷運站的時候下面的一個停車場但是接下來都沒有比較大型的一個停車計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
664.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
673.681 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
二、審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院函請審查行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
692.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
697.832 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
教育部要提出這個報告,那如果中小學也進中小學部長是不是也會同意? |
| IVOD_ID |
157158 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157158 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,15,19,22,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T11:19:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T11:30:48+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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