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| 委員名稱 |
沈發惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:28 - 10:42:14 |
| 影片長度 |
706 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於監察院主管（不含審計部及所屬）收支部分。
【僅進行詢答；預算提案於11月25日中午12時截止收件】） |
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主席我們有請李秘書長麻煩秘書長沈委員好秘書長早這個我們今天我們機會很難得我們就針對我們的這個中央政府有關監察院的這個總預算我們來進行詢答 |
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那所以我就大概就針對今天齁我個人在預算書所看到的幾個幾個可能需要說明的地方齁我就先請秘書長來說明齁那我們在希望說在未來預算審查的時候能夠比較順利首先齁我注意到你們的稅入預算齁這個稅入預算的部分 |
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我看你們的統計到10月為止你們的執行率是差不多只有到八成是不是能請秘書長說明一下目前大概還為什麼只有到八成他大概還沒上位執行的項目是哪一些 |
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你說兩個部分,第一個部分是什麼? |
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齁齁是你們自己就是你們自己你們會透過兩個方向來努力就對了一個是你們自己會會進透過行政執行處齁好這部分我有特別注意到了齁這個執行率的問題但是再來就是我們編列有關明年稅入來源的部分齁這部分我看結構上面做了這個數字上面的一些調整幅度不可謂不大啦齁就是你們在這個罰金罰還的部分齁這個 |
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今年明年度的預算成長600萬這個是怎麼樣估算的我跟委員報告明年度114年我們會審查113年的總統跟立委選舉所以我們總統跟立委選舉我們預期他的法金可以多收一點過去的經驗是這樣 |
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現在兩年一次選舉就是選舉的隔年我們會查查了以後就會有很多的這個狀況違反政治先進法的相關規定按照過去的經驗所以你們今年在這個罰金罰完的部分對114年因為查總統跟立委的選舉過後那這個看起來我們的這個裁判預估會比較高一點所以因為你們從這個從2050萬一下成長到2650萬成長了600萬的 |
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的這個幅度齁這個我就是要瞭解你們是怎麼樣的怎麼樣的來估算這個機制但是另外一方面你們在這個沒入跟沒收財務的部分的這個沒入金齁你們就又你們明年度的預算就比今年預算又減少減少了400萬為什麼是怎麼樣怎麼樣估算呢 |
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政治現金腳褲 這個我們今年有處理 那明年就會比較少 所以這個我們是就是搭配嘛 選舉的時候 那查的那一年就會高收入 那這個陣線就會比較低 所以我們一年是做這個 |
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這個部分一個是腳褲的部分一個是違規的部分所以你們這樣子一個成長600萬一個減裂400萬嘛所以這個在我看來這個調整的幅度其實是蠻大的啦因為選舉的人多啦基於過去的經驗有關這個選舉以及政治先進申報的部分過去的經驗來做這樣的調整 |
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那這個另外齁這個現行的有關沒入跟沒收財產現行有沒有包括虛擬貨幣 |
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沒有這個部分是我這個我也跟省委員報告一下有關虛擬貨幣的部分因為政治現金法的主管單位不是我們法律的主管機關不是我們讓我們建議過很多次但現在還沒有修完那我們建議說虛擬貨幣不能列為財產申報也不能列為政治現金那這個部分我想內政部也同意 |
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不能列為財產申報不能列為政治獻金不能用虛擬貨幣進行政治獻金這部分其實不只是政治獻金法我們公職人員財產申報法我們利益衝突迴避法這些部分現在虛擬貨幣通通沒有納入這個我們都有具體的建議但是事實上我們洗錢防治法已經把虛擬貨幣納入了 |
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現在最困擾的我們的理解是虛擬貨幣的價值到底多少沒有辦法定那這個虛擬貨幣的主管機關是金管會那行政院現在正透過各個部會在瞭解統整對這個虛擬貨幣未來怎麼管那從監察院立場我們是希望不管在財產申報或在政治獻金裡面都不能納入虛擬貨幣對但是現在現行的法令我沒有去修法事實上 |
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就可用虛擬貨幣進行正式獻金．目前可能以他這個申報．他捐獻的當日的行情可能都超過這個正式獻金的上限 |
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我希望說我們監察院這邊能夠積極 |
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這次現金法的主管機關是內政部對,你們等於說積極跟這些相關包括公職人員財產申報法包括利益衝突迴避法包括政治現金法我們分別跟內政部跟保護部有建議過那他們原則上也都同意都同意但是我們還是沒有看到對,他們修法要經過比較長的過程這個部分我希望監察院這邊能夠積極來推動那這個 |
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接下來一點時間就跟秘書長討論有關於我們監察院行使職權在行使、調查、彈劾、糾舉、糾正案的過程中律師在場權的問題律師在場權我們監察院從來沒有禁止律師在場權我知道沒有禁止但是也沒有規範 |
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我們在調查注意事項裡面有提到但是沒有把它法制化目前我們這個針對這個這個監察院針對這個受彈劾跟糾舉的人在這個在這個調查的過程裡面保障措施有哪一些 |
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我們這樣問好了我們這個監察委員在約詢實務上面我們是不是曾經有讓律師在場的情況有過去有過去有但是但是這個並沒有主動提示或者是全部要求一律讓他有律師在場權沒有主動提示但是他如果帶律師來我們也不會禁止唯一有可能有例外就是那個機密事項 |
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緊密事項那另外就是剛剛這個省委員所關心的正當法律程序的部分我們包括回避啦包括這個這個其他的相關的部分這個部分目前沒有授權的依據也沒有相關的規範我們目前在監察法的第5章還有監察法施行細則第5章都有相關的規範那唯一沒有的是我們的所謂的調查報告注意事項裡面還沒有變成一個法的位階那未來要不要變成法的位階把它明確規範這個我們還要再討論 |
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對,這個部分我是希望說能夠因為這個有權力就有救濟當然這部分在這個監察院行使職權的時候我希望能夠這個我們目前都沒有禁止對,我知道沒有禁止我是認為這個要保障要保障這個律師在場權這個部分我就用法制上面做一些檢討最後 |
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剛剛在前面的答詢裡面也有委員提到有關於目前生成式AI參考指引的運用方式它會使得我們人權就這個數位人權的部分會變成非常重要的一個部分但是我在你們的預算當中卻沒有看到 |
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沒有看到相關的反映出來說你們有關於這個數位人權的部分的預算的增加或者是這個工作上面的重視剛剛我在答詢的時候已經報告過了112年113年我們有一個委託案另外我們辦了一個國際論壇都是數位AI未來深圳市的 |
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對人權會產生什麼潛在性的影響我們對這個部分有很詳細的討論你們的立法計畫上面有提到說你們數位人權會優先的人權議題對你們這個人權委員會的這個中層策略計畫也有兩年計畫這個在2022年的時候我們把它定為我們的中層計畫 |
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對,但是這個中程計畫看了結果你們只辦過一次國際演習營是針對數位人權沒有,我們還有很多的工作會議還有跟各個社團來討論這個問題好,就是說你所謂這國際演習營只辦一次但是除了這國際演習營以外你們還有進行很多 |
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對我剛報告在預算呈現了有國際論壇國際研討會另外還有一個是委託案那其他就是在我們的一般的意思事項裡面來討論那你們明年有預計要辦理這個全球數位人權大會是不是有這個事情明年有明年有這個事情你們籌辦的情況怎麼樣甚至在APPLE年會我們可能也會把這個當作一個議題 |
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對於數位人權的部分我是非常重視最後就是上次我們質詢的時候上次我在這邊跟你溝通的時候有提到我認為有關政府機關 |
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指定的機關是數位部的資通安全署 |
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那就我們來講我們在人力上恐怕比較不足啦我們現在現有的資安的人員才7位但是我認為啦我認為說因為監察權本於監察權本身的性質他的獨立性他應該對於政府機關的資安的集合主要是集合而不是說去執行未來監察委員的裡面是不是要有一個資安專長的這個我們會來考慮會來建議 |
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主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
157122 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157122 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-14 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T10:30:28+08:00 |
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