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| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:46:28 - 09:55:42 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公司、台灣自來水股份有限公司。(詢答)） |
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謝謝主席,我想請國部長請進一步,國部長委員長部長早安,我想要請教一下為什麼原本預計12月,台電要在美國場舉辦新場的完工典禮為什麼取消?這個可能要問台積電 |
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真的嗎?你沒去了解嗎?台積電不是經濟部的子公司啦,所以我當然知道你不是不是你們經濟部的子公司啊但是,半導體相關的產業是台灣重要的命脈你上次說張忠謀董事長說全球化已死你認同是不是?認同那台積電的我們台灣的人才他們想要去美國設廠嗎? |
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我們現在跟委員報告我們走向世界這個是必要的一個過程因為世界都需要台積電對台積電走向世界這是一個必然的一個現象但是因為台積電自有的我們現在台灣台積電大概整個加起來有8萬的員工 |
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我們台灣委員應該很清楚,台積電幾乎在未來的十幾年應該如果按照他們的計畫,這個可能當然是台積電自己報告了據我們側邊,因為我們必須要準備水、電各方面給他我們自己討論的結果,台積電很有可能一年在台灣蓋一個廠 |
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所以我們都必須要為台積電的這樣的一個繁榮給以祝福其實台灣但是你必須要了解台灣的高科技人才也許他們不想要離開而且 |
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美國的這種勞動的文化跟台灣也有大部分的差異所以在台積電在台灣所製造的這樣子相關的優勢能不能複製到美國會不會水土不合 |
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對不對報告委員是這樣子就我們所了解的部分因為文化的不一樣然後作業又要求要一樣這裡面當然有一些認知的差異所以當初這個美國大概派了700位工程師來台灣訓練訓練完了又回去那麼台灣本來去的人大概也是五六百個人去 |
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那我想這些都是一個新廠特別是在海外必須要有的部分因為這個半導體廠非常非常的複雜非常非常複雜他除了使用設備之外他個人的對半導體的知識 |
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跟他的經驗非常重要如果你今天從事的是一個先端科技的話幾乎沒有標準作業程序也就是說沒有SOP的那這種這個部分我想委員應該很清楚他在美國美國用的大概都是先端的技術其實這種先端技術在台灣其實也非常的少也非常的少 |
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那麼台積電投資那麼多的錢要兩三百億美金這個錢我相信他們會很審慎他們也希望在海外的廠能夠快速的成功所以這裡面他們非常的複雜好太複雜了我們講簡單的為什麼取消回到原題為什麼取消是不是川普對於台積電 |
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他當初就說我們是偷他的晶片嘛是不是他要對台積電科與重稅那我們都到美國去了我想要問台積電就是美國晶片法給予台積電的補償有沒有拿到?拿到了有拿到是不是那為什麼這個完工典禮為什麼沒有照時的舉行是不是新的川普政府對於台積電不會像過去一樣這麼支持 |
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報導委員這個台積電在亞利桑那這個場事實上是在川普上一任的時代的時候所做的決定的所以這個應該川普都不參加我不太清楚這個可能要台積電來做決定這樣 |
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所以川普就不參加還有我下一個問題是為什麼我想要請問我們現在稅前這是1到9月台電的損益表如果昨天在省追加預算1000億那如果我們撥補是在收入裡面那代表了台電的這個是不是今年就會有盈餘了那為什麼明年還要1000億 |
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因為是有累積虧損存在那我想在他的資產上面資產負債表上面可以明確的來看得出來所以我們應該是這樣就是說他過去累積目前還有3000多億還有3000多億的這個虧損這個會影響他的財務 |
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你今年已經漲電價了欸你趕快轉頭看看他們兩位今年已經給人家漲兩次電價了欸你看看去年的稅前盈餘在同期的時候是負1500多億欸你今年已經縮減到負278億欸 |
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你現在要來跟人家要錢如果給你追加一千億你就已經盈餘啦那你明年度那你說 什麼樣的狀況下你明年度不會賺錢如果我們今年給你一千億你要講嘛你要討錢要有道理嘛 對不對 |
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當然 報告委員 現在這是這樣就是說立法院的一層額是來幫助我們的債務的經營更好幫助我們債務經營更好 我去跟人家籌錢 利息就可以更便宜我們的利息經營不太好 所以我們盡量改善債務經營 先說我們又看過期有什麼開順過期的開順裡面我們要買材料要想幾 我們醫藥材料想辦法 |
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今天給你一千億,為什麼一定有盈餘啊?為什麼明年還要給你一千億?你講不出來啊,對不對?報告委員,這是這樣,過去三年,我們已經知道了,過去的貴賺比較多,我們的民間的電,我們現在都動輒你今年就賺錢了,我們今年這一千億通過的話,你就賺錢了 |
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你如果賺錢的話,你明年有什麼要跟別人討錢?對不對?還有什麼?這個補助的部分,事實上是在補他的這個虧損的部分所以你說補助現在他賺錢,但是他不是實力上面的賺錢不是他自己的能力的賺錢所以我們在補過去的3000多億,事實上明年 |
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你講不出來啦!你講不出來啦!你就賺錢啦!你給人家偷一千元你就賺錢啦!沒有啦!沒賺錢啦!你自己當你算小算什麼!你是企業家你最清楚了啦!我非常清楚!幫我委員這個部分齁! |
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我們在補過去的虧損補過去的虧損讓我們在財務上面我們還是要繼續借錢我們當然非常的努力我們要非常的努力讓明年是可以賺錢的但是這個賺錢還是沒有辦法彌補過去虧損的部分我在問你最後一個問題美國現在他們已經說了核電要增加兩倍預計2050年前要增加 |
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我們這個院長有跟各位說明新的核能我們都持續關注 |
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台灣電力股份有限公司： |
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好 那要跟進囉好 謝謝委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
157100 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157100 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-15 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
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| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T09:46:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T09:55:42+08:00 |
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