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| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
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09:37:16 - 09:46:20 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公司、台灣自來水股份有限公司。(詢答)） |
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我們請那個台電董事長還有我們經濟部長謝謝部長我想我們一直都在關心我們地方的問題在 |
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上一次的質詢我已經要求你們要去抓出這幕後的黑手為什麼我們台南的天然氣發電廠都可以橫著走但是好像我們也沒有得到中央有任何的訊息我必須再正式跟我們部長再把所有的資料再review一次 |
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寶春在台南開說明會我不知道寶春現在是到哪一個階段到處開說明會善話也開、觀點也開、麻豆也開他在開什麼啊然後搞得人心惶惶所有的里長都反對 |
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然後問他說請問你們要設在哪裡不知道然後勉勉強強說我要設在善化好善化我們也去找出這個土地在哪裡台台沒有同意台台沒有同意喔土地沒有同意我特別去調了你們在發電的整個申請設置的過程跟流程好我們現在來看寶川 |
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目前籌設的相關計畫書送了嗎?那個我們的董事長送了嗎?那個報告委員因為這個不會是台灣公司主管 |
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跟委員報告我們是民事合約不是這些政府管制事項 |
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對啊 你們是合約嘛才能跟你們進行採購招標嘛 對不對要有這六大文件嘛 對不對董事長你要說清楚啦 是不是兩個事情啦齁 你講的是六大文件 這個六大文件是他要拿到電業當然相關執照的時候六大文件要跟台電取得一個合約的關係他不見得完成啦齁就是他要興建完成我們的合約好那他要跟你拿到合約到底要到什麼階段 |
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他要拿什麼東西來跟你申請合約他參加我們的招標要參加招標嗎那要拿哪些文件才能參加招標這個有不同的階段有不同的規定那基本上六大文件是他要拿到他的電業執照的時候六大文件要齊備 |
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當然那招標到底我要拿到哪些資料招標有部分的時間它可以候補就是環評當然可以候補嘛那哪些是一定要拿到你說環評跟地方政府的同意函可以候補但是投射計畫書要不要有要有嗎 |
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要不要有還是都可以候補?跟委員報告他這個籌設計畫書這都是要送主管機關去審查的啦對嘛我知道就是他要跟你來進行招標的時候這些文件要不要備齊嗎?要不要目前為止不需要就是現在不需要所以都不需要聽我講完不需要籌設也不需要環評也不需要地方統一書也不需要然後咧然後發電廠的電源線引接統一行要不要? |
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發言委員：陳亭妃 |
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但是要跟你們申請這個合約一定要把這些籌建籌設的計畫書還有我們的這個發電廠的土地同意書還有我們的這個發電廠的電源線引接同意函對不對還有我們天然氣的供應的同意函 |
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參與投標要有這些文件對這些基本文件嘛起碼環評跟同意案你說那兩樣可以後補可是這四樣是基本一定要拿到的這是要投標的時候要送來但是他們還沒有參與投標裡面總是沒有人民的同意書嘛人民同意書是在籌設的部分吧地方的審核嘛對不對地方政府的同意書 |
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所以,台電如果依照這樣,寶春有送了這個合約了嗎?沒有嗎?那個,我們沒有開這個,就我們開的標,他沒有來投標就沒有送這些東西。所以就沒有嗎?所以到目前為止是沒有的,對不對? |
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沒有嘛目前為止沒有來投標嗎來董事長麥克風講清楚到目前為止寶春有沒有來我們的台電針對我們台南的發電廠的這些相關資料來進行招標有沒有目前他們沒有來投標沒有嗎沒有投標好來部長很清楚他沒有投標也沒有這些相關的資料那請問他在開什麼說明會啊 |
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報告委員 這個可能是在環評上面...錯了!他也沒送環評!他也沒送環評啊!他所有的資料都沒有啊!他在送什麼?他沒有送環評!來!部長!部長!土地同意書都沒有拿到了他是要設在哪裡啊?他開什麼環評啊?環評要不要土地同意書? |
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環評要不要土地同意書跟委員報告一下他這個說明環評要不要土地同意書你不要再給我這樣寫來寫去啦環評要不要土地同意書啦需要需要嘛土地同意書台堂都沒有同意請問他設在哪裡講不清楚說不明白他在開什麼說明會他在開什麼說明會部長這很嚴重欸造成地方的恐慌 |
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他是誰在讓他靠我不知道但是他已經過分了亂開通造成地方的困擾第一時間在善化的時候也是胡搞瞎搞我們已經邀集相關單位去到現場已經跟他說了現在他開得更大從善化開到關鐵開到麻豆 |
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所有的資料都沒有都沒有欸最重要的土地同意書都沒有 |
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他到底要設在哪裡大家都不知道用騙的嗎?報告委員我想這個集會的這個過程那主管單位應該不是經濟部所以我們會要求這個地方主管單位來瞭解一下對現在都不是因為現在大家都在推皮球但是都說用電很重要那我都不知道難道用電重要就要讓這些電廠橫著走嗎? |
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來部長我再請教一下申報申報第一期欠地方21.6億的回饋金這很清楚了當時候在環評裡面是要求是要當時候我們整個收入不是淨值喔是收入我們售電收入不是淨值喔 |
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受電收入這樣算起來就是21.6億的回饋金結果21.6億的回饋金現在一起欠我們這麼多你們沒有人敢處理現在居然申辦還可以用二期要沿用一期的管線再用50年沒有安全評估 |
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也沒有給我們回覆也沒有給我們答案然後再來專案型電協金因為我們的整個電業法裡面有說專案型電協金是年度電協金的百分之三十完全淪為電廠的小金庫他在修理反對的聲音媒體都爆了喔媒體都爆了喔這一家電廠是某人的小金庫喔是誰的小金庫去查清楚是好謝謝陳亭妃委員來部長 |
| IVOD_ID |
157095 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157095 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-15 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T09:37:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T09:46:20+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |