| IVOD_ID |
157066 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157066 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-2-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-19T09:17:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-19T09:33:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/57155aa6b92c2285d87d30dd1aaf5b1f2188c888bc13974000c0a1645a72e70bbb206ea06e1c8f725ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
傅崐萁 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:36 - 09:33:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第9次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院民進黨黨團，針對第11屆第2會期第7次會議報告事項第92案委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」及第93案委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民保留地禁伐補償條例第三條條文修正草案」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當？請公決案等10案。 二、行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「113年度中央政府總預算案追加預算案」編製經過並備質詢。三、11月15日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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主席請院長麻煩請卓院長備詢院長好剛剛聽聞今天院長來立法院做追加預算一千億要來補貼台電 |
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重大的累積虧損剛剛聽到院長所在院會所提出的報告說我們再補貼一千億元是因為我們跟全世界各國來比較因為二五戰爭之後影響到大家發電的成本所以我們必須要再來補貼請問一下院長這是剛剛您所提出來的報告雖然本期今天早上才看到 |
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剛剛您報告完請問一下法國因為二五戰爭補貼了7000億元7000億元作為這個人員的這個漲幅的價差7000億元台灣總共去年今年明年總共要補貼跟增資多少錢我們增資從 |
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2023年到2024年增資是2500億本席給你看一下112年增資1500億以後條例撥補500億113年增資1000億現在追加1000億要撥補明年要1000億總共5000億明年的追加是多少還不曉得目前就是5000億好 |
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我們是五千億 這個數字對吧是的 我們有兩千五百億是增資 其餘是撥補你說因為法國也補貼了燃料的價差七千億台幣我們是五千億台幣請問一下 院長 台灣一年的GDP是多少錢我們現在三萬多元 |
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總量是多少錢國家的GDP不是人均GDP國家GDP26兆台幣回答非常正確請問法國一年的GDP是多少台幣報告委員當然不是這樣的比較沒有關係嘛是不是這樣比較各有看法不同但請你尊重我的提問請你尊重我的提問 |
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請問一下法國一年的GDP是多少兆台幣沒有關係一年大概是3兆多美元大概是100兆台幣100兆台幣的一年GDP的法國是補助7千億台灣才26兆台幣的GDP要補貼5千億 |
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再看日本日本補貼了五千五百億日本GDP是台灣的幾倍數字我再跟我沒有關係超過台灣三倍以上人家補貼五千五百億台灣要補貼五千億院長把問題找出來嘛問題惡物戰爭能源的漲價 |
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轉嫁成為成本這個大家都知道但是台灣為什麼這麼高額的補貼原因在哪裡這都是您剛剛的報告本席就坐在下面聽本席現在就會告訴你不是國際能源的漲幅而已是因為綠能政策的不當跟這麼多的弊案拿人民的血汗錢來補貼所以 |
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我們如何調整能源政策院長這才是可長可久我們該做的事情給您做參考一句話我們的民生用電還是比其他各國便宜這個補貼政策的程度是比較大的現在再請您看一下到現在為止原本台電在民國110年還是盈餘225億現在 |
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已經虧損光這三年111到現在已經加起來5500億的虧損在立法院預算中心的資料我們這個無底洞要填到什麼時候不是因為二物戰爭能源的問題現在全世界能源已經回到二物戰爭之前的價位了但是我們還在巨額的補貼 |
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我們看一下適當的能源政策再來看我們自行發電去年自行發電燃煤燃氣3塊4塊3塊4毛3 3塊4毛4核能發電1塊3毛9我們購入的電力政府買的電再生能源5塊2風力發電6塊7太陽能光電4塊8毛8請問台電怎麼可能不倒 |
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台電怎麼可能不倒用這個方式繼續推下去立法院預算中心都有意見預算中心都有意見所以報告委員一句話發展綠能是全世界的共識我們必須要發展綠能綠能是世界的共識但人家並沒有排除核能本席不反對發展綠能但是我們的核能所以我們看一下要五千億 |
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本席光講這次的一千億的追加一千億可以做什麼請院長聆聽一下一千億可以讓全國的孩子八年的營養午餐全部免費一千億可以做什麼五百到一千個長照機構在全國可以蓋一萬五千戶的社會住宅可以讓百萬的孩童學前的教育經費由政府來提供 |
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或者是全國480萬的老人三年免健保費本席跟您建議錢可以這樣用錢可以這樣花報告委員一句話我們也再看一下一建議讓台電財務健全也穩定發電也可以供給更多的產業造就更多的 |
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院長本席覺得真的蠻可惜的一個理性溝通的說明會可以讓很多事情能夠更了解我也覺得可惜 |
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從陳水扁前總統執政的八年換了六個閣魁到蔡英文總統至少換了四位閣魁您到台中去再講2032年的事情再講八年後的事情請問一下院長您真的是啊 太膨脹了八年後你還在當行政院長嗎當然不在 |
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政策的一貫是必須要做到的過去的經濟部長怎麼講臺中多一個燃氣就少一個燃煤但是我們政府為什麼不好好的來貫徹對人民的權貢所以現在跟臺中人講清楚臺灣這一些沒有人能夠再忍受八年後 |
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用廢發電所以我們趕快改善台中就是氣燃氣場燃氣組上來之後就換一個面我們現在也是如此沒有改變請院長看一下人民要怎麼健康我們看一下日本預計明年要重啟七座核電廠德國兩座核電廠延後美國、韓國、瑞典、英國全世界先進國家 |
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因為2045年之前要興建10座核電廠全世界已經走回核電乾淨的能源只有台灣還在意識形態台電必然會倒這個物體棟院長你能做多久我不知道但我們對這塊土地要負責如果台電破產我們國家怎麼辦我們還有多少年每一年要這樣來補貼院長 |
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您做參考本席與眾欣賞謝謝委員的提醒接下來所以郭部長說盡快要讓台電財政穩健下來我們希望他財政能夠健全院長是中理整個行政院但是你用的經濟部長我們來看看你們用的經濟部長從520到現在有很多奇奇怪怪的這一些言論 |
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非常多很奇怪的言論但是又沒有風苦跟沒有腰桿挺直說我們國家應該要恢復用核電而且明確要用核電每一天啊做一些小丑式的小丑跳樑式的一些無厘頭的一些發言說要到菲律賓蓋電廠300多公里的海底電線電纜就算設了花了幾千億設下去光電源到台灣 |
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至少要入30幾趴到40趴這樣的經濟部長結果啊原來台灣最大的問題最多的這所有的綠能集團到這邊插旗是不是都講好了都講好了是嗎我可以回答嗎報告委員齁我們都計算過了 |
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那麼你上面的這個標題阿可能是有點誤解有點誤解我們跟如果我講過了跟這個情報沒有關係的如果可行請你就堅持做下去就堅持做阿你就做阿沒有關係阿你認為對的你就堅持嘛沒有關係我講過了我買電一定不會超過現在的成本你看一下齁你用的這位部長 |
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郭志輝先生他是崇越科技一個小公司資本在18億的小公司他不是真正的科技研發科技生產製造他是一個代理商一個批發商一個Blocker這樣的一個小公司的一個企業主來當我們的經濟部長真的做大了真的做大了我們看一下齁我們這一位尊敬的部長 |
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我不曉得他是台灣的經濟部長還是日本的招商局長台積電去熊本他把他上下游產業通通要帶去日本請問一下美中大戰在打什麼就在打科技戰科技戰是什麼科技含量最高科技含金量最高投入資金最大人才最多消費最多 |
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每一個人民富財富最多如果這些人離開台灣台灣就空掉了台灣就空掉了現在郭部長還在做他的老本行我不曉得他當部長還是當董事長幫日本的熊本 |
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在招商這是我們的部長嗎?再看一下台積電為什麼是護國神章?台積電為什麼是護國神章?是有我們的戰略目標嗎?請你看清楚台積電為什麼是護國神章?全國軍營代工市佔率62.3%全世界先進製程市佔率92%所有AI晶片的生產市佔率將近全球的100% |
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有台積電在台灣沒有人敢動台灣把台積電搬走我告訴你啊台積電搬走台灣就空掉了資金也跑了人才也跑了消費也跑了財產也拿走了這個就是我們的不應該我們的部長現在是日本的招商局長我們再看一下您的這位部長 |
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他在幫熊本招商 原來2023年啦崇岳集在熊本 設立據點目標10年內上市所以現在又在做部落卡的生意 又在招商再來看看你這位部長看一下 他今年要接任部長 |
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4月10號轉讓了他名下的19億所有的股票7550張從業股票請問部長轉到那裡去了轉到那裡去了回答啊轉到那裡去了沒有辦法回答我都照時申報照時申報好你這個照時北溪要揭穿你的照時他轉到那裡去竟然用自己的小孩當人頭啊 |
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他轉到他兒子一個高益投資他兒子只有480股4800塊台幣的股份這家公司有8000萬郭志輝持有99.9%而且4月10號轉讓這家公司竟然還沒有核准籌備處就4月24號才核准4月24號才核准竟然10號就轉讓 |
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然後這家公司用兒子當人頭規避財產申報報告委員你這個說法我全民在查過你的財產申報我完全依照法律的規則申報你這個不實質化我表示抗議掏空台灣規避監督以公謀私最後院長請你再看最後一頁 |
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請你看好委員的推論邏輯都有問題應該給部長充分的說明謝謝謝謝 |
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好謝謝好謝謝謝謝副控局委員時間已到謝謝副控局委員的質詢謝謝卓院長部長的質詢謝謝 |
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傅委員崐萁：（9時17分）主席，請院長。 |
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主席：麻煩請卓院長備詢。 |
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傅委員崐萁：院長早。 |
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卓院長榮泰：傅委員好。 |
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傅委員崐萁：剛剛聽聞今天院長來立法院做追加預算1,000億，要來補貼台電重大的累積虧損，剛剛聽到院長在院會所提出的報告說，我們再補貼1,000億元是因為我們跟全世界各國來比較，因為俄烏戰爭之後，影響到大家發電的成本，所以我們必須要再來補貼。請問一下院長，這是剛剛您所提出來的報告，雖然本席今天早上才看到，剛剛您報告完。請問一下，法國因為俄烏戰爭補貼了7,000億元作為能源漲幅的價差，臺灣去年、今年、明年總共要補貼跟增資多少錢？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們從2023年到2024年增資是2,500億。 |
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傅委員崐萁：本席給你看一下，112年增資1,500億，疫後條例撥補500億，113年增資1,000億，現在追加1,000億要撥補，明年又要1,000億，總共5,000億，明年的追加是多少還不曉得，目前就是5,000億。好！我們是5,000億這個數字對吧？ |
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卓院長榮泰：是的，我們有2,500億是增資，其餘是撥補。 |
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傅委員崐萁：謝謝院長，你說因為法國也補貼了燃料的價差7,000億臺幣，我們是5,000億臺幣，請問院長，臺灣一年的GDP是多少錢？ |
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卓院長榮泰：現在是三萬多元。 |
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傅委員崐萁：總量是多少錢？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們現在…… |
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傅委員崐萁：國家的GDP，不是人均GDP。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我們國家是二十六、七兆。 |
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傅委員崐萁：26兆臺幣。 |
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卓院長榮泰：對。 |
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傅委員崐萁：回答非常正確。請問法國一年的GDP是多少臺幣？ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，當然不是這樣比較的。 |
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傅委員崐萁：沒有關係嘛！ |
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卓院長榮泰：我剛剛說的是……法國的數字我再跟委員報告。 |
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傅委員崐萁：是不是這樣比較，各人看法不同，但請你尊重我的提問。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我說各國都採取同樣的政策，那政策先後…… |
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傅委員崐萁：請你尊重我的提問。請問法國一年的GDP是多少兆臺幣？ |
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卓院長榮泰：這個我查清楚再跟委員…… |
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傅委員崐萁：沒有關係。一年大概是三兆多美元，大概是100兆臺幣。一年GDP100兆臺幣的法國是補助7,000億，臺灣GDP才26兆臺幣卻要補貼5,000億。再看日本，日本補貼了5,500億，日本GDP是臺灣的幾倍？ |
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卓院長榮泰：數字我再跟委員報告。 |
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傅委員崐萁：沒有關係，超過臺灣的三倍以上，人家補貼5,500億，臺灣要補貼5,000億。院長，把問題找出來嘛！問題歸因到俄烏戰爭、能源的漲價轉嫁成為成本，這個大家都知道，但是臺灣為什麼要給這麼高額的補貼，原因在哪裡？這就是您剛剛的報告，本席就坐在下面聽，本席現在就可以告訴你，不是國際能源的漲幅而已，是因為綠能政策的不當跟這麼多的弊案，拿人民的血汗錢來補貼，所以我們如何調整能源政策，院長，這才是可長可久也是我們該做的事情，給您作參考。 |
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卓院長榮泰：一句話，我們的民生用電還是比其他各國便宜，這個補貼政策的程度是比較大的。 |
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傅委員崐萁：謝謝。院長，再請您看一下。到現在為止，原本台電在民國110年還是盈餘225億，光從111年到現在這3年加起來已經虧損5,500億，這是立法院預算中心的資料。我們這個無底洞要填到什麼時候？不是因為俄烏戰爭、能源的問題，現在全世界的能源已經回到俄烏戰爭之前的價位了，但是我們還在巨額的補貼。 |
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我們看一下，失當的能源政策。我們去年自行發電，燃煤、燃氣三塊四毛三、三塊四毛四，核能發電一塊三毛九；我們購入的電力、政府買的電，再生能源是五塊二，風力發電六塊七，太陽能光電四塊八毛八，請問台電怎麼可能不倒？台電怎麼可能不倒？用這個方式繼續推下去，立法院預算中心都有意見，所以院長…… |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員一句話，發展綠能是全世界的共識，所以我們必須發展綠能。 |
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傅委員崐萁：我們看一下，綠能是世界的共識，但人家並沒有排除核能啊！本席不反對發展綠能，但是我們的核能呢？所以我們看一下。要5,000億，本席光是講這次1,000億的追加，1,000億可以做什麼？請院長聆聽一下。1,000億可以讓全國孩子8年的營養午餐全部免費。1,000億可以做什麼？500到1,000個長照機構在全國，可以蓋1萬5,000戶的社會住宅，可以讓百萬孩童學前的教育經費由政府提供，或者是全國480萬個老人3年免健保費，本席給您建議，錢可以這樣用、錢可以這樣花。 |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員一句話……1,000億讓台電財務健全，也穩定發電、供給更多產業，造就更多的就業機會…… |
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傅委員崐萁：我們再看一下影片。 |
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傅委員崐萁：院長，本席覺得真的滿可惜的！一個理性溝通的說明會可以讓很多事情更瞭解…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我也覺得可惜！ |
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傅委員崐萁：從陳水扁前總統執政的8年換了6個閣揆，到蔡英文總統至少換了4位閣揆，您到臺中去，在講2032年的事情，在講8年後的事情，院長，您真的是太膨脹了！8年後，你還在當行政院長嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：當然不在。 |
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傅委員崐萁：政策的一貫是必須要做到的，過去的經濟部長怎麼講？臺中多一個燃氣，就少一個燃煤…… |
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卓院長榮泰：沒錯啊！ |
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傅委員崐萁：但是我們政府為什麼不好好的來貫徹對人民的承諾？ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，我們現在也是一樣啊！ |
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傅委員崐萁：所以現在跟臺中人講清楚…… |
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卓院長榮泰：現在也是一個氣換一個煤，也是一樣。 |
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傅委員崐萁：臺灣沒有人能夠再忍受8年後用肺發電…… |
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卓院長榮泰：所以我們趕快改善臺中，就是燃氣機組上來之後，就換一個煤…… |
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傅委員崐萁：本席現在告訴你，人民要怎麼樣健康…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們現在也是如此，沒有改變。 |
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傅委員崐萁：請院長看一下，人民要怎麼健康？我們看一下，日本預計明年要重啟7座核電廠，德國2座核電廠延後除役，還有美國、韓國、瑞典、英國等全世界先進國家，瑞典2045年之前要新建10座核電廠，全世界已經走回核電、乾淨的能源，只有臺灣還在意識形態，台電必然會倒！這個無底洞，院長，你能做多久不知道，但我們對這塊土地要負責，如果台電破產，我們國家怎麼辦？我們還有多少年，每一年要這樣來補貼？院長，您做參考，本席語重心長…… |
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卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員的提醒…… |
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傅委員崐萁：接下來，我們再看看…… |
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卓院長榮泰：所以郭部長說儘快要讓台電財政穩健下來，我們希望它財政能夠健全。 |
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傅委員崐萁：院長是綜理整個行政院，但是我們來看看你用的經濟部長。他從520到現在有很多奇奇怪怪的言論，非常多很奇怪的言論，但是就沒有風骨、沒有腰桿挺直，說我們國家應該要回復用核電，而且明確要用核電。每一天做一些小丑跳梁式無厘頭的發言，說要到菲律賓蓋電廠。三百多公里的海底電纜，就算設了，花了幾千億設下去，光送電回到臺灣，至少要loss 33%到40%，這樣的經濟部長！結果原來臺灣最大的、問題最多的所謂綠能集團已經到那邊插旗了，是不是都講好了？都講好了，是嗎？都講好了，是嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：沒有這回事。 |
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郭部長智輝：我可以回答嗎？ |
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傅委員崐萁：你回答沒有關係，是不是都講好了？簡短。 |
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郭部長智輝：報告委員，我們都計算過了，你上面的這個標題可能是有點誤解…… |
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傅委員崐萁：沒有關係，因為你講了半天，本席還是聽不懂…… |
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郭部長智輝：我們講過了…… |
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傅委員崐萁：如果你認為可行…… |
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郭部長智輝：跟雲豹沒有關係的…… |
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傅委員崐萁：部長，如果你認為可行，請你就堅持做下去，就堅持做，你就做，沒有關係！你認為對的你就堅持，沒有關係…… |
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郭部長智輝：我講過了，我買電一定不會超過現在的成本…… |
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傅委員崐萁：接下來，院長，你看一下你用的這位部長，郭智輝先生，他是崇越科技（一個小公司，資本額才18億的小公司）的，它不是真正的科技研發、科技生產製造，它是一個代理商、一個批發商、一個broker，這樣一個小公司的企業主來當我們的經濟部長，真的做大了，真的做大了！我們看一下，我們這一位尊敬的部長，我不曉得他是臺灣的經濟部長，還是日本的招商局長，台積電去熊本，他把它上下游產業統統要帶去日本，請問一下美中大戰在打什麼？就在打科技戰。科技戰是什麼？科技含金量最高，投入資金最大，人才最多，消費最多，每一個人的名目財富最多，如果這些人離開臺灣，臺灣就空掉了。現在郭部長還在做他的老本行，我不曉得他在當部長還是在當董事長？幫日本的熊本在招商，這是我們的部長嗎？再看一下…… |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，布局全球是壯大臺灣整個產業鏈，這有我們的戰略目標…… |
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傅委員崐萁：台積電為什麼是護國神山？院長你的講法本席都了解，請你看清楚台積電為什麼是護國神山？全球晶圓代工市占率62.3%，全世界先進製程市占率92%，所有AI晶片的生產市占率將近全球的100%。有台積電在臺灣，沒有人敢動臺灣；如果把台積電搬走，我告訴你，台積電搬走，臺灣就空掉了，資金也跑了，人才也跑了，消費也跑了，財產也拿走了，這個就是我們的不應該，我們的部長現在是日本的招商局長。 |
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我們再看一下你的這位部長，他在幫熊本招商，原來2023年崇越已經在熊本設立據點，目標是10年內上市，所以現在又在做broker的生意在招商。再看看你這位部長，他今年要接任部長，4月10號轉讓他名下19億所有的股票，也就是7,550張崇越股票，請問部長轉到哪裡去了？回答啊！轉到哪裡去了？沒有辦法回答？ |
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郭部長智輝：我都照實申報。 |
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傅委員崐萁：照實申報？好，本席就來揭穿你的「照實」，他轉到哪裡去？竟然用自己的小孩當人頭，他轉到他兒子名下的高毅投資公司，他兒子只有480股，合4,800塊臺幣的股份，這家公司有8,000萬資本額，郭智輝持有99.9%，而且4月10號轉讓，這家公司竟然還沒有核准，籌備處是到4月24號才核准。4月24號才核准，竟然10號就轉讓了。然後這家公司用兒子當人頭，規避財產申報…… |
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郭部長智輝：報告委員，你這個說法我請你再看一下程序，我完全按照法律的規定申報，你這個不實指控，我表示抗議！ |
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傅委員崐萁：本席昨天到監察院查過你的財產申報，高毅投資不在規範之列，這是掏空臺灣、規避監督、以公謀私！院長，請你再看最後一頁，請你看好…… |
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卓院長榮泰：委員的推論、邏輯都有問題，應該給部長充分的說明，臺灣產業布局全球是我們的戰略目標。 |
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傅委員崐萁：今天聯合報頭版請你看清楚，花蓮觀光業明年憂倒閉潮，台電要倒要補貼，花蓮的觀光業倒閉誰要負責？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們不是一直在努力嗎？ |
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傅委員崐萁：台電拿國家的錢來補貼，請問花蓮的觀光業倒閉潮…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們不是一直有在努力嗎？ |
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傅委員崐萁：頭版請你看清楚…… |
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主席：謝謝…… |
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傅委員崐萁：這個部長該換了啦！ |
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主席：謝謝傅崐萁委員，時間已到，謝謝傅崐萁委員的質詢…… |
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傅委員崐萁：這個部長該換掉了！ |
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郭部長智輝：你看法不見得是正確的。 |
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傅委員崐萁：規避…… |
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郭部長智輝：我沒有規避，我按照法令，我沒有規避監督，你不要隨便亂講話！ |
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傅委員崐萁：羞恥、羞恥！ |
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郭部長智輝：你不要隨便亂講話！ |
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傅委員崐萁：羞恥、羞恥！ |
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郭部長智輝：你要不要拿掉你的言論免責權？ |
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傅委員崐萁：羞恥！ |
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主席：謝謝卓院長、郭部長的備詢，請回座，謝謝。 |
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接下來請登記第2號張啓楷委員質詢。 |
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224 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
院會-11-2-9 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
韓國瑜 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
傅崐萁 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
洪申翰 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
林思銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
賴瑞隆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
陳培瑜 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
黃健豪 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
蔡易餘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
吳思瑤 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
廖偉翔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
張智倫 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
149 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-11-19 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1139501 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1139501_00003 |
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1139501_00004 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第2會期第9次會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
邀請行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「113年度中央政府總預算追加
預算案」編製經過並備質詢─ 詢答完畢─ |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1139501_00013 |