| IVOD_ID |
156620 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156620 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-07T12:31:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-07T12:38:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/41b35824aa7ef054f188a7511a6e1eb6be9b0bd4ecc214d5faa9d9f880c8c93874ad0faf363c552f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:31:34 - 12:38:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長、大陸委員會報告「美國總統大選後，對於美中台三邊關係及未來國際局勢發展之影響」，並備質詢。） |
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2016年川普第一次當選美國總統當時蔡英文總統在12月2號跟川普越洋通話那當時我記得民進黨非常雀躍說這是外交史上重大的突破沒錯吧 |
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當時還說川菜夠辣,很多的義美之詞不一一列舉,但是我剛剛聽到牛許廷委員在質詢你的時候,問到會不會有川瀨熱線,你看起來好像沒什麼把握,對不對? |
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這是要由川來決定的當然 照你的邏輯你也可以講川菜的線但是我們沒有要去促成因為媒體有報導了我就做點澄清避免誤會我跟你講我不認為你要避免誤會這事情我覺得當然你要先不能講我也可以體會因為外交有些工作要低調 |
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但是你不能一副好像無所謂的樣子我覺得基本上我是鼓勵你能夠比照蔡英文的時候去促成穿賴熱線這個鼓勵應該不為過吧其實外交關係的呈現有各種方式我們不要去限制在而且尤其是媒體他那樣子設定的話容易變成引導到另外一個方向去你會有一個很嚴重的邏輯問題 |
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如果照你這樣講的話穿賴熱線沒那麼重要的話當初穿賴熱線那民進黨不就犯了一個邏輯上很大的問題嗎你把他捧得好像一個外交重大突破我想抱歉我會站在前面的民進黨所以這一點我是肯定賴清那個蔡英文的所以對於蔡英文的肯定我希望你耐心的能夠做到起碼跟做的跟蔡英文一樣嘛那這樣的一個奇妙我覺得外交部不能夠當作說啊這個有這個有這個有這個沒這個無所謂的感覺 |
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我覺得這個態度不是辦外交的態度啦當時是第一次嘛就已經發生過啦就沒有後來 對不對而且又是同一個川普 對不對好啦 怎麼做我只是勉勵您而已啦因為你們有一個邏輯上的問題啦那第二個我覺得就是很嚴肅的問題啦我們川普在競選總統的時候有一個很重要的政見跟台灣有關就是我們要交保護費吧 |
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你知道吧他當選總統說要叫我們交保護費他那個詳細的文字不是說交保護費要GDP到10%啦那個時候有沒有講這個數字啊是在選舉的時候因為受訪的時候他又提到了因為那個數字也變來變去欸數字變來變去至少他今天提了這個數字嘛我看到就是新聞外媒報導說假的 |
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那我就要問你啦那你一看到數據是多少?那黑幫都要收保護費啊那台灣當然也要交保護費啊 |
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不是嗎因為他的副總統也有一些奏訪也有一些講話總統重要還是副總統重要都很重要都很重要總統說的為準那我想請問你要不要我跟你講部長因為川普講話這個調調我也不會把這個是責任全部放你身上可是我覺得外交部總有個責任跟川普新政府溝通一下你知道GDP百分之十四多少嗎部長你知道嗎那 |
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224.531 |
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在我們中央政府總預算是84%我們基本上如果真正照川普講的這個編到GDP10%的話政府大概就可以幾乎沒有事可以做啦所以這個地方抱歉我覺得就是外交部的責任啦溝通是你外交部的責任沒錯吧 |
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對阿 我們會去溝通阿 因為事實上 第一個我們是在增加嘛 從過去到未來我要的你只有這句話嘛 這個坦白講我直接講你認為以這個數字來講是合理要求嗎不要講說啦齁 就是說這個數字是可以會說話嘛以這個數字是不是合理要求嘛 |
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266.872 |
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因為他講百分之幾其實這是一個期許但是百分之十如果要看你怎麼計算 |
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274.482 |
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275.943 |
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那我跟委員講比如說灰色地帶的作戰海巡署 |
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中共是海警船 它就是國防啊 那我們海巡署的預算也是國防啊部長我跟你講 你就算把這都算進去 你要到10% 你天差地遠我這樣說不過分吧 你把海巡署全部都算進去你把國安會什麼什麼全部都算進去 我告訴你 也一樣天差地遠把你外交部算進去都天差地遠 你相不相信 |
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328.22 |
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我跟委員報告,他的副總統最重要的,他們的幕僚也談過是5,所以這個數字變來變去所以你接受5%沒有啦,我的意思是說5也好10也好,這就是要增加,要展現我們自我防衛的決心,然後跟國防的能力基本上,因為我也在政府工作過 |
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349.909 |
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364.938 |
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臺北關係我當然知道重要經營也困難所以你也發現我質詢你有沒有很為難你對不對可是我要講過去其實我們有跟美國有一些意見不合的時候至少我在政府服務的時候不要說太平島美國的意見跟我們中華民國立場就有點不一樣對不對沒錯吧 |
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368.602 |
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對,跟馬政府之後馬政府時候不一樣當時至少政府就用很勇敢的講出來說抱歉我跟你不一樣但是並不會今天你要站在一個尊嚴的基礎上跟隨美國溝通我同意當然嘛所以不合理的要講就像前面有最後講一點啦我覺得那個態度部長還是可以修正一下林玉婷的部分你不能跟洪某凱講說你問我我才講啊 |
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396.837 |
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沒有指名道姓,又沒有指名道姓的回應,不是嗎?就是要回應 |
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419.172 |
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所以我說你積極性差了一點點你如果說外交部可以主動回應那我告訴你那就是很能夠守住政府立場總而言之我今天的質詢只是跟部長講川普上來很多要溝通所以請外交部再好好加油努力 |
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主席，有請部長。 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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有請部長。 |
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1 |
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部長好。 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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1 |
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2024-11-07T12:31:38+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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2016年川普第一次當選美國總統，蔡英文總統在12月2日跟川普越洋通話。 |
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羅委員智強 |
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當時我記得民進黨非常雀躍，說這是外交史上重大的突破。 |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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沒錯吧？ |
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1 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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當時，對。 |
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羅委員智強 |
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1 |
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當時，對嘛！ |
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0 |
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還說「川蔡夠辣」，對不對？ |
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羅委員智強 |
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|
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很多的溢美之詞不一一列舉。 |
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羅委員智強 |
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但是我聽到剛剛牛煦庭委員在質詢你的時候，問到會不會有川賴熱線，你看起來好像沒什麼把握，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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這是要由「川」來決定的。 |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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|
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當然，照你的邏輯，你也可以講川蔡…… |
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林部長佳龍 |
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|
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但是我們沒有要去促成…… |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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1 |
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不是，我要講的是…… |
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0 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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|
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因為媒體有報導了，我就做點澄清。 |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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1 |
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對，很好。 |
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0 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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|
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避免誤會。 |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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沒有，我跟你講，我不認為你要避免誤會，這個事情我覺得……當然你現在不能講我也可以體會，因為外交有些工作要低調，對不對？嗯。 |
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羅委員智強 |
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|
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但是你不能一副好像無所謂的樣子。 |
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1 |
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羅委員智強 |
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2024-11-07T12:32:50.123000+08:00 |
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|
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基本上，我是鼓勵你能夠比照蔡英文的時候去促成川賴熱線，這個鼓勵應該不為過吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-11-07T12:32:59.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:03.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
其實外交關係的呈現有各種方式，我們不要限制在…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:03.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:05.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
部長，你這樣子講有一個很嚴…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:05.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:09.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
尤其是媒體這樣子設定的時候，也容易變成引導到另外一個方向去。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:10.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:19.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
你會有一個很嚴重的邏輯問題，如果照你這樣講，川賴熱線沒那麼重要的話，當初川蔡熱線，那民進黨不就犯了一個邏輯上很大的問題嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:19.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:21.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
你把它捧成好像是一個外交上的重大突破。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:22.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:22.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我跟你講，抱歉喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:23.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:27.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
我會站在前面的民進黨那邊，所以這一點我是肯定蔡英文。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:28.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:33.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
對於蔡英文的肯定，我希望賴清德能夠做得到的，起碼做得跟蔡英文一樣嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:33.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:41.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
這樣的一個期勉，外交部不能夠當作是有這個、沒這個都無所謂的感覺，我覺得這個態度不是辦外交的態度，可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:43.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:45.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
當時是第一次，就已經發生過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:45.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:47.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
就沒有後來了，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:47.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:48.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
因為這個說實在…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:47.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:51.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
而且又是同一個川普，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:51.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:52.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
他怎麼做，我們也不要去替他決定。好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.188 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:51.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:52.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
部長，我只是勉勵您而已，因為你們有一個邏輯上的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:52.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-11-07T12:33:53.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-11-07T12:33:53.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:10.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
第二個，我覺得這就是很嚴肅的問題了，川普在競選總統的時候有一個很重要的政見跟臺灣有關，就是要我們交保護費，你知道吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:11.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:12.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
他當選總統後，說要叫我們交保護費。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:12.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:15.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
他那個詳細的文字不是說交保護費，就是翻譯…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:15.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:17.461000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
要到GDP的10%，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:18.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:20.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
那個時候也沒有講這個數字。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:22.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:27.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
是在選舉的時候，受訪的時候他又提到了。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:27.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:28.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
你看的新聞跟我看的新聞不太一樣，你是看龍的新聞吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:27.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:28.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
因為那個數字也變來變去。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:29.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:29.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
數字變來變去？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:30.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:32.054000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
至少他今天提了這個數字嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:32.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:34.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我看到就是新聞……外媒報導都假的？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:36.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:36.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
那我就要問你…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:36.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:38.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我是覺得他的那個…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:38.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:39.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
那請問你看到的數據是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:39.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:42.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
沒有，他的也有提到…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:42.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:43.988000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
很多黑幫都要收保護費啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:44.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:47.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
臺灣當然也要交保護費，不是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:47.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:51.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
因為他的副總統有一些受訪，也有一些講話。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:51.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:52.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
總統重要還是副總統重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:53.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:53.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
都很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:54.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:55.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
都很重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:55.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-11-07T12:34:55.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
總統說的為準嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-11-07T12:34:58.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:13.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我跟你講，部長，因為川普講話的調調，我也不會把這個責任全部放你身上，可是我覺得外交部總有個責任跟川普的新政府溝通一下，你知道GDP 10%是多少嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:13.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:14.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
部長，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:14.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:17.320500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
你有沒有數字啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:17.320500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:20.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我們24兆的10%。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:20.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:31.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我告訴你，占我們中央政府總預算是84%，基本上如果真照川普講的編到GDP10%的話，政府大概就幾乎沒有事可以做啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.898 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:32.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:38.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
所以這個地方，抱歉，我覺得就是外交部的責任，溝通是你外交部的責任沒錯吧！對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:38.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:40.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我們會去溝通，因為事實上…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:40.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:41.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
會去溝通喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:41.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:43.730000+08:00 |
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第一個，我們是在增加嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:44.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:44.791000+08:00 |
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從過去到未來嘛！好啦！ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:44.791000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:46.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我要的就你這句話嘛！ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:47.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:49.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我坦白直接講，你認為以這個數字來講，是合理要求嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:49.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:50.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
不要講說這個數字是可以、會說話嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-11-07T12:35:50.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-11-07T12:35:51.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
不是，以這個數字來講，是不是合理要求？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:00.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:03.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
因為他講百分之幾，其實這是一個期許啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:03.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:04.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
部長，我跟你講，我…… |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:04.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:07.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
但是10%，要看你怎麼計算啦！ |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:07.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:08.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
GDP 10%有什麼計算方式？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:08.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:09.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我們臺灣其實很多東西都跟國防有關，像除了國防部有退輔會，我們在全世界韌性的很多…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:09.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:10.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我告訴你，不管你怎麼算，今天部長你要跟我說什麼天下所有事全部皆國防這種算法，那我也佩服你啦！ |
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0.024 |
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羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:10.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:11.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
你可以跟我講GDP 100%跟國防有關…… |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:11.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:12.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
這個在談判的時候，委員啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:12.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:13.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
每一分錢，臺灣越壯大，我們國防越壯大啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:13.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:14.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
你不能這樣子…… |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:08.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:40.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我跟委員講，比如像灰色地帶的作戰，中共是海警船…… |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:40.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:41.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
沒關係，你就算把這些都算進去…… |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:40.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:41.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
它就是國防啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:41.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:45.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
我們海巡署的預算也是國防啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:45.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:46.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
不是啦！好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:45.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:46.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
部長，我跟你講喔！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:46.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2024-11-07T12:36:52.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
你就算把這都算進去，你要到10%也天差地遠，我這樣說不過分吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-11-07T12:36:53.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:01.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
你把海巡署全部都算進去，把國安會什麼的全部都算進去，我告訴你也一樣天差地遠，把你外交部算進去，都天差地遠，你相不相信？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:02.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:04.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
我跟委員報告，他的副總統最重要的……好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:04.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:06.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
我跟你講，沒關係，你前面講那句話…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:06.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:09.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
他們的幕僚也談過是5%，所以這個數字是變來變去。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:10.144000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:11.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
所以你接受5%？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:11.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:11.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
沒有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:11.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:18.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
我意思是說5%也好，10%也好，這就是要展現我們自我防衛的決心跟國防的能力。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:18.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:20.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
我告訴你喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:20.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:29.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
基本上因為我也在政府工作過，臺美關係我當然知道重要，經營也困難，所以你也發現我質詢你沒有很為難你，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:29.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:30.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
對，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:29.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:38.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
可是我要講，過去其實我們有跟美國有一些意見不合的時候，至少我在政府服務的時候，比方太平島，美國的意見跟我們中華民國的立場就有點不一樣，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.954 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:38.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:38.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
沒錯吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:38.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:42.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
這應該……對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:42.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:43.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
跟馬政府時候…… |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:44.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:53.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
對，跟馬政府時候不一樣，當時至少政府就很勇敢的講出來說，抱歉，我跟你不一樣，但是並不會…… |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:53.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:57.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
今天如果你要站在一個尊嚴的基礎上跟所謂美國溝通，其實我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:57.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:58.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
我同意耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:58.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2024-11-07T12:37:59.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
當然嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2024-11-07T12:37:59.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2024-11-07T12:38:09.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
所以不合理的要講，就像前面有委員講的，我覺得部長的態度還是可以修正一下，林郁婷的部分，你不能跟洪孟楷講你問我我才講啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2024-11-07T12:38:09.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2024-11-07T12:38:10.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2024-11-07T12:38:10.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2024-11-07T12:38:11.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
因為他沒有指名道姓，你要對號入座嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2024-11-07T12:38:11.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2024-11-07T12:38:12.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
我的態度就是很一致，我相信奧運獎牌的得到都是公平競爭，那個公信力比任何一個政治人物講得都強。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2024-11-07T12:38:11.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2024-11-07T12:38:13.278000+08:00 |
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我告訴你，部長，我也當過政府發言人，沒有指名道姓也有沒有指名道姓的回應，不是嗎？ |
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羅委員智強 |
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就是要回應，不是嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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我就在這裡回應啦！ |
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羅委員智強 |
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對，所以我說你積極性差了一點點，如果說外交部可以主動回應，我告訴你，就很能夠守住政府立場。 |
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羅委員智強 |
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總而言之，我今天的質詢只是跟部長講，川普上來很多要溝通的，所以請外交部再好好加油努力啦！ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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是，好，我們會全力以赴，謝謝委員的勉勵，謝謝。 |
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主席 |
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謝謝羅智強委員，部長請回。 |
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接下來請葉元之委員上臺質詢。 |
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羅委員智強：（12時31分）主席，有請部長。 |
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主席：有請部長。 |
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羅委員智強：部長好。 |
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林部長佳龍：委員好。 |
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羅委員智強：2016年川普第一次當選美國總統，蔡英文總統在12月2日跟川普越洋通話。當時我記得民進黨非常雀躍，說這是外交史上重大的突破。沒錯吧？ |
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林部長佳龍：當時，對。 |
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羅委員智強：當時，對嘛！還說「川蔡夠辣」，對不對？很多的溢美之詞不一一列舉。但是我聽到剛剛牛煦庭委員在質詢你的時候，問到會不會有川賴熱線，你看起來好像沒什麼把握，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：這是要由「川」來決定的。 |
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羅委員智強：當然，照你的邏輯，你也可以講川蔡…… |
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林部長佳龍：但是我們沒有要去促成…… |
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羅委員智強：不是，我要講的是…… |
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林部長佳龍：因為媒體有報導了，我就做點澄清。 |
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羅委員智強：對，很好。 |
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林部長佳龍：避免誤會。 |
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羅委員智強：沒有，我跟你講，我不認為你要避免誤會，這個事情我覺得……當然你現在不能講我也可以體會，因為外交有些工作要低調，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：嗯。 |
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羅委員智強：但是你不能一副好像無所謂的樣子。基本上，我是鼓勵你能夠比照蔡英文的時候去促成川賴熱線，這個鼓勵應該不為過吧？ |
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林部長佳龍：其實外交關係的呈現有各種方式，我們不要限制在…… |
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羅委員智強：部長，你這樣子講有一個很嚴…… |
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林部長佳龍：尤其是媒體這樣子設定的時候，也容易變成引導到另外一個方向去。 |
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羅委員智強：你會有一個很嚴重的邏輯問題，如果照你這樣講，川賴熱線沒那麼重要的話，當初川蔡熱線，那民進黨不就犯了一個邏輯上很大的問題嗎？你把它捧成好像是一個外交上的重大突破。我跟你講，抱歉喔！我會站在前面的民進黨那邊，所以這一點我是肯定蔡英文。對於蔡英文的肯定，我希望賴清德能夠做得到的，起碼做得跟蔡英文一樣嘛！這樣的一個期勉，外交部不能夠當作是有這個、沒這個都無所謂的感覺，我覺得這個態度不是辦外交的態度，可以吧？ |
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林部長佳龍：當時是第一次，就已經發生過了。 |
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羅委員智強：就沒有後來了，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：因為這個說實在…… |
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羅委員智強：而且又是同一個川普，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：他怎麼做，我們也不要去替他決定。 |
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羅委員智強：好啦！部長，我只是勉勵您而已，因為你們有一個邏輯上的問題。 |
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林部長佳龍：好，謝謝。 |
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羅委員智強：第二個，我覺得這就是很嚴肅的問題了，川普在競選總統的時候有一個很重要的政見跟臺灣有關，就是要我們交保護費，你知道吧？他當選總統後，說要叫我們交保護費。 |
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林部長佳龍：他那個詳細的文字不是說交保護費，就是翻譯…… |
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羅委員智強：要到GDP的10%，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：那個時候也沒有講這個數字。是在選舉的時候，受訪的時候他又提到了。 |
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羅委員智強：你看的新聞跟我看的新聞不太一樣，你是看龍的新聞吧？ |
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林部長佳龍：因為那個數字也變來變去。 |
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羅委員智強：數字變來變去？至少他今天提了這個數字嘛！我看到就是新聞……外媒報導都假的？那我就要問你…… |
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林部長佳龍：我是覺得他的那個…… |
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羅委員智強：那請問你看到的數據是多少？ |
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林部長佳龍：沒有，他的也有提到…… |
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羅委員智強：很多黑幫都要收保護費啊！臺灣當然也要交保護費，不是嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：因為他的副總統有一些受訪，也有一些講話。 |
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羅委員智強：總統重要還是副總統重要？ |
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林部長佳龍：都很重要。 |
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羅委員智強：都很重要？總統說的為準嘛！我跟你講，部長，因為川普講話的調調，我也不會把這個責任全部放你身上，可是我覺得外交部總有個責任跟川普的新政府溝通一下，你知道GDP 10%是多少嗎？部長，你知道嗎？你有沒有數字啊！ |
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林部長佳龍：我們24兆的10%。 |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，占我們中央政府總預算是84%，基本上如果真照川普講的編到GDP10%的話，政府大概就幾乎沒有事可以做啦！所以這個地方，抱歉，我覺得就是外交部的責任，溝通是你外交部的責任沒錯吧！ |
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林部長佳龍：對啊！我們會去溝通，因為事實上…… |
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羅委員智強：會去溝通喔！ |
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林部長佳龍：第一個，我們是在增加嘛！從過去到未來嘛！ |
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羅委員智強：好啦！我要的就你這句話嘛！我坦白直接講，你認為以這個數字來講，是合理要求嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：不要講說這個數字是可以、會說話嘛！ |
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羅委員智強：不是，以這個數字來講，是不是合理要求？ |
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林部長佳龍：因為他講百分之幾，其實這是一個期許啦！ |
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羅委員智強：部長，我跟你講，我…… |
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林部長佳龍：但是10%，要看你怎麼計算啦！ |
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羅委員智強：GDP 10%有什麼計算方式？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們臺灣其實很多東西都跟國防有關，像除了國防部有退輔會，我們在全世界韌性的很多…… |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，不管你怎麼算，今天部長你要跟我說什麼天下所有事全部皆國防這種算法，那我也佩服你啦！你可以跟我講GDP 100%跟國防有關…… |
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林部長佳龍：這個在談判的時候，委員啊！ |
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羅委員智強：每一分錢，臺灣越壯大，我們國防越壯大啊！你不能這樣子…… |
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林部長佳龍：我跟委員講，比如像灰色地帶的作戰，中共是海警船…… |
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羅委員智強：沒關係，你就算把這些都算進去…… |
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林部長佳龍：它就是國防啊！我們海巡署的預算也是國防啊！ |
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羅委員智強：不是啦！好啦！部長，我跟你講喔！你就算把這都算進去，你要到10%也天差地遠，我這樣說不過分吧！你把海巡署全部都算進去，把國安會什麼的全部都算進去，我告訴你也一樣天差地遠，把你外交部算進去，都天差地遠，你相不相信？ |
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林部長佳龍：我跟委員報告，他的副總統最重要的…… |
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羅委員智強：好啦！我跟你講，沒關係，你前面講那句話…… |
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林部長佳龍：他們的幕僚也談過是5%，所以這個數字是變來變去。 |
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羅委員智強：所以你接受5%？ |
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林部長佳龍：沒有啦！我意思是說5%也好，10%也好，這就是要展現我們自我防衛的決心跟國防的能力。 |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你喔！基本上因為我也在政府工作過，臺美關係我當然知道重要，經營也困難，所以你也發現我質詢你沒有很為難你，對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：對，謝謝。 |
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羅委員智強：可是我要講，過去其實我們有跟美國有一些意見不合的時候，至少我在政府服務的時候，比方太平島，美國的意見跟我們中華民國的立場就有點不一樣，對不對？沒錯吧！這應該…… |
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林部長佳龍：對啊！跟馬政府時候…… |
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羅委員智強：對，跟馬政府時候不一樣，當時至少政府就很勇敢的講出來說，抱歉，我跟你不一樣，但是並不會…… |
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今天如果你要站在一個尊嚴的基礎上跟所謂美國溝通，其實我們…… |
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林部長佳龍：我同意耶！ |
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羅委員智強：當然嘛！所以不合理的要講，就像前面有委員講的，我覺得部長的態度還是可以修正一下，林郁婷的部分，你不能跟洪孟楷講你問我我才講啊！對不對？ |
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林部長佳龍：因為他沒有指名道姓，你要對號入座嗎？我的態度就是很一致，我相信奧運獎牌的得到都是公平競爭，那個公信力比任何一個政治人物講得都強。 |
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羅委員智強：我告訴你，部長，我也當過政府發言人，沒有指名道姓也有沒有指名道姓的回應，不是嗎？就是要回應，不是嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我就在這裡回應啦！ |
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羅委員智強：對，所以我說你積極性差了一點點，如果說外交部可以主動回應，我告訴你，就很能夠守住政府立場。總而言之，我今天的質詢只是跟部長講，川普上來很多要溝通的，所以請外交部再好好加油努力啦！ |
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林部長佳龍：是，好，我們會全力以赴，謝謝委員的勉勵，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝羅智強委員，部長請回。 |
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接下來請葉元之委員上臺質詢。 |
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364 |
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委員會-11-2-35-11 |
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林憶君 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
王定宇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
陳冠廷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
黃仁 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
馬文君 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
林楚茵 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
徐巧芯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
羅美玲 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
沈伯洋 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
洪申翰 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
洪孟楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
羅智強 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
葉元之 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
陳永康 |
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301 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-11-07 |
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1139501 |
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1139501_00009 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請外交部部長、大陸委員會報告「美國總統大選後，對於美中台三邊關係及未來國際局勢發展
之影響」，並備質詢 |
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1139501_00018 |