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主席 請院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢副委員好院長好昨天康瑞颱風啊造成台灣非常重大的這樣一個災情請院長先看一下 |
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這個在華聯的新城鄉轉播車也在那裡啊好像碰到龍捲風一樣這個圍牆全垮連這個水泥車也翻倒了這真的是好像一場戰爭過後 |
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這是濁西鄉的鄉公所大門口。哇哇哇,鄉公所前面。我家前面有小園,我山口。是31號。相信這是一個鄉政府公主。鄉公所前面,馬路。過來,看一下我們的北迴鐵路。北迴鐵路。 |
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這個何仁崇德阿來下一張何仁崇德這個又斷掉了齁那這台11線阿整個邊坡都崩掉了這個院長請教一下什麼時間來看齋阿 |
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好,報告委員,我們一樣關心整個颱風來臨,尤其花東地區。所以昨天在應變中心,總統也在第一時間跟徐縣長在內的幾位地方首長都通過電話,非常感謝他們。我想這個只要交通,我知道有些路段好像2號會通了。 |
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法律不執行,決議未遵守。法律不執行,決議未遵守。 |
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這三件包括禁法補償包括工糧收購還有健保點值這已經通過的法律跟通過的主決議院長到現在還不執行我們真的很詫異我們先看一下這個禁法補償我請問一下院長禁法補償這個案子 |
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通過的版本是哪一個黨提案的?我一直認為禁法補償這個跟哪一個黨有關?請院長回答本席的問題嘛!今天我們不要用話術很務實討論一下嘛是哪一個黨提的禁法補償?有民進黨委員提案不是有民進黨委員提案是民進黨委員提案民進黨的三長也有簽字提案 |
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那這是一個法律案在立法院正式通過那行政院不執行是看不起原住民是嗎委員這樣的指控我們無法銷售那不是看不起原住民那就是欺負原住民是嗎我一再提出預算法91條的程序委員也應該非常清楚這個提案有沒有跟行政院爭詢有沒有跟行政院爭詢過有沒有指明彌補資金之來源 |
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這是不是一個通過的法律案?總統府有沒有公告?有沒有?總統府有公告。好,然後你不執行。接下來我們再看一下這個工糧收購。委員不能放著法律的規定不講,只講說執不執行的問題。這個法律沒有依照合法的程序制定之後,我們當然要提出我們的救濟方式。有沒有合法程序,你可以做程序的救濟。請問你有沒有提復議? |
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所以你沒有提復議嘛!合法的程序你不走嘛!那你今天在這裡就不要再講其他的嘛!現在有自己的工具嘛!有法律救濟的程序嘛!當然還有其他的救濟方式那之前我也希望透過協商的方式導照一個辦法出來解決這個事情十三年沒有調整十三年沒有調整請問一下農藥 |
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肥料、工資、央苗通通漲價。十三年不漲,公糧收入只多了五塊錢。請問一下,這個院長,你為什麼又不執行? |
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對於這個主決議我們相當慎重地檢討我們也提出了一些看法未來如果照這樣的主決議每年會增加90億元以上的支出那麼同時更嚴重的是未來整個產銷秩序會失衡這是過去歷次以來提高之後所反射的狀況目前這種狀況還是存在的所以農業部提出了一級二轉三加三的方式希望用這個來增加農民的權利 |
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院會表決的時候提出相關的看法呢?當時也沒有提出來。好。再來看健保點值。健保點值0.95元。0.95元。 |
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這是讓您瞧不起原住民欺負原住民瞧不起農民欺負農民現在這不是醫護的問題而已是全國人民健康的醫療品質是不是能夠提升我們沒有瞧不起任何的族群但是請委員要尊重行政院的憲法職權我們看一下健保點子上一頁這一頁 |
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請問一下,執政黨柯建民坑走莊有沒有簽字?請問一下,執政黨的三長有沒有簽字?我們會尊重主決議的這個精神,但是我們會有實誠性執政預算的執行。一個執政黨,全黨上下,都共同背書,行政院不執行。好,我們再看看賴清德怎麼講的。 |
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前進基隆造勢賴清德喊話開專家會議改革健保給付制度也提出平均健保點值1.1元的目標讓醫界辛苦不在北溪市事隔一天重生絕對和醫界站在同一線我當然知道醫界目前面臨許多問題 |
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那我是最有誠意、也最了解醫界、最有能力解決這些問題的人。好,最有誠意、最有能力解決問題的人。我們正在解決。民進黨全黨出來背書。我們正在解決。原來選舉是一件事情,執政又是一件事情。 |
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我們正在解決可以前後不一樣我們已經讓人民了解核准的健保總額超過712億請問一下這三項法律案跟權益案會增加行政院什麼樣的財政負擔有怎麼樣自然來情請告訴本席 |
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工糧收購剛剛說過了每年會增加約91億元以上的負擔另外在健保的給付上面我們今年就在明年的預算我們已經包括總額的給付編列了712億的支出對那麼工糧的在進法補償這一項下它不是金額大小之問題 |
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他不是金額多少是問題他是原則性守不守法的問題任何的不守法一毛錢都不應該不是來這裡吵架 本席在跟你講道理三項總共820幾億我們看一下 110年度中央總預算多編了4282億稅入 |
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四千兩百多億的增加稅入立法院透過了八百多億你不仔細我們都有增加稅數的能力再過來這三年超收了多少錢這三年不多你們從人民的口袋裡面超收了一兆三千四百二十四億區區八百多億關係全國人民的健康 |
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醫務人員的品質、農民的權益、原住民的尊嚴,全部被卓睿院長一踩在腳下。你跟我講財政紀律,超收一兆三千多億。你今天早上的報告,連續7月推進於每一年多一千多億。八百多億你不處理。過去幾年沒有還財於民嗎? |
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人民都有享受到這個經濟成長的果實委員不要這樣偏頗的概念造成錯誤的印象我來告訴你什麼叫財政紀律民國94年立法院的文書請你看清楚民進黨柯建民、趙詠卿、陳景俊、賴清德將老農年金從4000塊提升到5000塊 |
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一百年九月又是老農年金六千塊增加到七千塊 |
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柯建民、蔡煌狼、翁金珠提案剛剛賴清德提案現在翁金珠提案增加130多億行政院吳敦義院長馬上三個月之內照辦那個時候是有調整的機制的 |
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馬上照辦通過。委員你都用以偏債選的方式在這裡提出質詢是極端不負責任的。民國90年基隆河整治條例三讀通過當時的院長張俊雄馬上來執行。95年1月13號石門水庫整治條例當時的謝長廷院長你的師父 |
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馬上來進行本期是告訴你以古見今過去所有民進黨自體的提案增加預算的法律提案行政院都有執行都有經過法律的程序 |
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你講的就是未來要繼續利用這樣的方式透過法律來增加提案侵犯行政院的行政權不僅是我,未來每一位院長都不可能同意這樣的方式我們要建立的就是這樣的憲政體制從陳水扁時代蔡英文時代到現在總共11位行政院長有兩個人做過兩次 |
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有共9位我不禁很好奇人民腦袋裡大概還記不記得這些人但是唯一記得的一件事情他曾經做過什麼福國利民的事立任的院長、行政院長都尊重立法院但是唯有你卓院長對立法院通過的事務 |
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完全不執行本席也在告訴你總預算在立法院退會程序委員會總共有前後有六位行政院院長任內包括連戰先生兩次唐飛先生一次陳忠先生一次賴清德先生一次到您總共是六次基本上這些案子大家都有朝野協商來解決 |
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現在已經6、7個禮拜了行政院院長兩手一攤我就是瞧不起全國人民你怎麼樣選舉我承諾的是一場誤會選完你奈我何委員你講這種話現在的你怎麼樣濫用預算我們看一下台電這光光單單這兩三年 |
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900.774 |
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已經撥補了五千億五千億本期現在告訴你能源政策怎麼解決只要不要官商勾結任何問題都可以解決郭部長可以上來一下嗎其他兩位請下去本期要特別請教一下我們的能源政策我們看一下全部的匱限圖匱限圖跟實際發電的光電 |
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908.101 |
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936.411 |
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總共申請了6萬6千多枚總共落實執行了3千4百枚百分之五今天就是臺電跟能源局的人謀不章把所有國家英辦事項你該用所有的國有地來發電政府自己來做但你不要透過這些蟑螂民進黨的派系去綁這些 |
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937.591 |
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941.794 |
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有不法的行為,我們集體在偵辦。今天,將人民來要錢,就不負責任的行為。部長,趕快把人員證明。好,謝謝傅崐萁委員的質詢,謝謝卓院長、各位部會首長的備詢。 |
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969.747 |
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上午的質詢到此為止。報告委員會我們下午2點30分。 |
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傅委員崐萁：（11時59分）主席，請院長。 |
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主席：再請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：傅委員好。 |
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傅委員崐萁：院長好。昨天康芮颱風造成臺灣非常重大的災情，請院長先看一下，這個在花蓮新城鄉，轉播車也在那裡，好像碰到龍捲風一樣，圍牆全垮，連水泥車也翻倒了，真的好像一場戰爭過後。這是卓溪鄉鄉公所大門口，我們家前面有小河、有山坡，不敢相信這是一個地方政府的公所。過來看一下北迴鐵路，北迴鐵路的和仁─崇德段又斷掉了，台11線則是整個邊坡都崩掉了。院長，請教一下什麼時間來勘災？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們一樣關心颱風來臨，尤其花東地區，所以昨天在應變中心，總統也在第一時間跟徐縣長在內的幾位地方首長都通過電話…… |
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傅委員崐萁：請問一下院長，什麼時候可以來勘災？ |
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卓院長榮泰：非常感謝他們。我想這個只要交通……我知道有些路段好像2號會通。 |
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陳部長世凱：對。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我記得是2號，明天會通。 |
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傅委員崐萁：最快的時間來勘災，好不好？好，接下來…… |
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陳部長世凱：明天台9線就會通蘇花這一段，明天中午就會通。 |
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傅委員崐萁：法律不執行，決議未遵守。請問一下院長，我們從小受的教育是不是就是要守法？是嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：當然是要守法。 |
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傅委員崐萁：行政院長可不可以不守法？ |
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卓院長榮泰：當然不可以不守法。 |
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傅委員崐萁：法律不執行，決議未遵守，包括禁伐補償、公糧收購，還有健保點值，這三件是已經通過的法律跟通過的主決議，院長到現在還不執行，我們真的很詫異！我們先看一下禁伐補償，我請問一下院長，禁伐補償這個案子通過的版本，是哪一個黨提案的？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我一直認為禁伐補償跟哪一個黨無關。 |
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傅委員崐萁：請院長回答本席的問題嘛！今天我們不要用話術，很務實討論一下，禁伐補償是哪一個黨提的？ |
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卓院長榮泰：有民進黨委員提案。 |
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傅委員崐萁：不是有民進黨委員提案，是民進黨委員提案！民進黨的三長也有在提案簽字。這是一個法律案在立法院正式通過，但行政院不執行，是看不起原住民，是嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：委員這樣的指控，我們無法消受，我一再提出預算…… |
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傅委員崐萁：那就是欺負原住民，是嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我一再提出預算法第九十一條的程序，委員也應該非常清楚，這個提案有沒有跟行政院徵詢過…… |
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傅委員崐萁：你跟我提預算法第九十一條，本席待會兒再來跟你討論。 |
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卓院長榮泰：有沒有指名彌補資金之來源？ |
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傅委員崐萁：本席只問你，這是不是一個通過的法律案？總統府有沒有公告？有沒有？ |
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卓院長榮泰：總統府有公告。 |
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傅委員崐萁：好，然後你不執行。接下來我們再看一下公糧收購…… |
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卓院長榮泰：委員不能放著法律的規定不講，只講執不執行的問題。 |
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傅委員崐萁：公糧收購…… |
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卓院長榮泰：一個法律沒有依照合法的程序制定，之後我們當然要提出我們的救濟方式。 |
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傅委員崐萁：有沒有合法程序，你可以做程序的救濟，請問你有沒有提覆議？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我說過了，我為什麼不提覆議…… |
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傅委員崐萁：所以你沒有提覆議嘛！你不走合法的程序，那你現在在這裡就不要再講其他的。你有自己的工具，有法律救濟的程序，但你不用…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們當然還有其他的救濟方式。之前我也希望透過協商的方式，打造一個辦法出來解決這個事情。 |
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傅委員崐萁：公糧收購13年沒有調整！請問一下，農藥、肥料、工資、秧苗通通漲價，13年不漲，公糧差不多只多了5塊錢。請問一下院長，你為什麼又不執行？ |
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卓院長榮泰：對於這個主決議，我們相當慎重地檢討，我們也提出了一些看法，未來如果照這樣的主決議，每年會增加91億元以上的支出…… |
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傅委員崐萁：增加91億，行政院是沒有錢嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰：同時更嚴重的是，未來整個產銷秩序會失衡，這是過去歷次以來提高之後所產生的狀況，目前這種狀況還是存在的，所以農業部提出了「1集、2轉、3加3」的方式，希望用這個來增加農民的權利。 |
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傅委員崐萁：所以當時為什麼不在院會表決的時候提出相關的看法呢？當時也沒有提出來。好，再來看健保點值，健保點值0.95元，您瞧不起原住民、欺負原住民，瞧不起農民、欺負農民，現在這不是醫護的問題而已，是全國人民健康的醫療品質是不是能夠提升。院長，你不依法執行…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們沒有瞧不起任何的族群，但是請委員要尊重行政院的憲法職權。 |
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傅委員崐萁：好，我們看一下健保點值，請問一下執政黨柯建銘柯總召有沒有簽字？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們也尊重主決議的建議…… |
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傅委員崐萁：請問一下，執政黨的三長有沒有簽字？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們會尊重主決議的精神，但是我們會有時程性以及預算的執行…… |
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傅委員崐萁：一個執政黨，全黨上下都共同背書，行政院不執行！好，我們再看看賴清德怎麼講。 |
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傅委員崐萁：好，最有誠意、最有能力解決問題的人…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們正在解決。 |
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傅委員崐萁：民進黨全黨出來背書…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們正在解決。 |
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傅委員崐萁：原來選舉是一件事情，執政又是一件事情…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我們正在解決。 |
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傅委員崐萁：可以前後不一樣，我們已經讓人民了解…… |
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卓院長榮泰：核准的健保總額超過712億，這難道不是在解決嗎？ |
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傅委員崐萁：請問一下，這三項法律案跟決議案會增加行政院什麼樣的財政負擔？有怎麼樣窒礙難行？請告訴本席。 |
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卓院長榮泰：公糧收購剛剛說過了，每一年會增加約91億元以上的負擔。另外在健保的給付上面，在明年的預算，包括總額的給付，我們已經編列了712億的支出。 |
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傅委員崐萁：700億？好，加公糧的800億…… |
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卓院長榮泰：對。 |
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傅委員崐萁：好，加公糧的800億…… |
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卓院長榮泰：在禁伐補償這一項下…… |
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傅委員崐萁：禁伐補償多少錢？ |
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卓院長榮泰：它不是金額大小之問題…… |
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傅委員崐萁：禁伐補償多少錢？ |
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卓院長榮泰：它不是金額多少之問題，它是原則性、守不守法的問題。 |
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傅委員崐萁：總共三樣立法院的決議…… |
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卓院長榮泰：任何的不守法，一毛錢都不應該。 |
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傅委員崐萁：院長，不是來這裡吵架，本席在跟你講道理，三項總共八百二十幾億，我們看一下，114年度中央總預算多編了4,282億歲入，四千兩百多億的增加歲入，立法院通過的八百多億你不執行？ |
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卓院長榮泰：我們都有增加歲出的名目…… |
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傅委員崐萁：再來，這三年超收了多少錢？這三年不多，你們從人民的口袋裡面超收了1兆3,424億，區區八百多億，關係全國人民的健康、醫護人員的品質、農民的權益、原住民的尊嚴，全部被卓院長你踩在腳下，你跟我講財政紀律，超收一兆三千多億，你今天早上的報告，連續7年歲計盈餘，每一年多一千多億，八百多億你不處理？好…… |
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卓院長榮泰：過去幾年沒有還財於民嗎？人民都有享受到這個經濟成長的果實，委員不要這樣偏頗的概念造成錯誤的印象。 |
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傅委員崐萁：再過來，我們來看一下，我來告訴你什麼叫財政紀律。民國94年立法院的文書，請你看清楚，民進黨柯建銘、趙永清、陳景峻、賴清德等將老農年金從4,000塊提升到5,000塊，這個法律案執行了沒有？ |
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卓院長榮泰：有經過…… |
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傅委員崐萁：執行了沒有？ |
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卓院長榮泰：有經過行政院的同意，這個就可以執行。 |
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傅委員崐萁：執行了沒有？ |
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卓院長榮泰：有經過行政院的同意。 |
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傅委員崐萁：執行了。再過來，100年9月又是老農年金，6,000塊增加到7,000塊，柯建銘、蔡煌瑯、翁金珠等提案，剛剛賴清德提案，現在翁金珠提案，增加一百三十多億，行政院吳敦義院長馬上3個月之內照辦通過。 |
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卓院長榮泰：那個時候是有調整機制的。 |
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傅委員崐萁：馬上照辦通過，任何時間…… |
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卓院長榮泰：委員，你都用以偏概全的方式在這裡提出質詢…… |
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傅委員崐萁：再過來…… |
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卓院長榮泰：是極端不負責任的。 |
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傅委員崐萁：再過來，民國90年基隆河整治條例三讀通過，當時的院長張俊雄馬上來執行。95年1月13日石門水庫整治條例，當時的謝長廷院長、你的師父馬上來進行。本席是告訴你，以古鑑今，過去所有民進黨自己的提案、增加預算的法律提案，行政院都有執行。 |
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卓院長榮泰：都有經過法律的程序。委員，你想的就是未來要繼續利用這樣的方式，透過法律來增加提案，侵犯行政院的行政權，不僅是我，未來每一位院長都不可能同意這樣的方式，我們要建立的就是這樣的憲政體制。 |
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傅委員崐萁：卓院長，我們看一下有多少……從陳水扁時代、蔡英文時代到現在，總共11位行政院長，有兩個人做過兩次，總共9位，我不禁很好奇人民腦袋裡還記不記得這些人，但是唯一記得的一件事情，他曾經做過什麼福國利民的事，歷任行政院長都尊重立法院，但是唯有你卓院長對立法院通過的事務完全不執行。本席也再告訴你，總預算在立法院退回程序委員會總共前後有6位行政院長任內，包括連戰先生兩次、唐飛先生1次、陳冲先生1次、賴清德先生1次，到您總共是6次，基本上這些案子大家都有朝野協商來解決，現在已經六、七個禮拜了，行政院長兩手一攤，我就是瞧不起全國人民，你怎麼樣，選舉我承諾的是一場誤會，選完你奈我何！ |
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卓院長榮泰：委員，你講這種話…… |
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傅委員崐萁：我們再看一下現在的…… |
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卓院長榮泰：委員這樣的言論，我想連韓院長都無法接受。 |
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傅委員崐萁：你怎麼樣濫用預算，我們看一下台電，單單這兩、三年已經撥補了5,000億，本席現在告訴你能源政策怎麼解決，只要不要官商勾結，任何問題都可以解決，郭部長可以上來一下，其他兩位請下去。 |
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主席：衛福部、農業部請回，請經濟部郭部長備詢。 |
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傅委員崐萁：本席要特別請教一下能源政策，我們看一下全部的饋線圖跟實際發電的光電，總共申請了六萬六千多MW，總共落實執行了3,400MW，只有5%。今天就是台電跟能源局的人謀不臧，把所有國家應辦事項，你可以用所有的國有地來發電，政府自己來做，但你不要透過這些蟑螂、民進黨的派系去綁這些…… |
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卓院長榮泰：有不法我們會偵辦。 |
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傅委員崐萁：只有5%，八十幾槍也開了…… |
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卓院長榮泰：有不法的行為我們極力在偵辦，請委員也跟我們一起努力，把偵辦的情況跟國人說明。 |
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傅委員崐萁：今天向人民來要錢，這是不負責任的行為。部長，趕快把能源政策搞定，聽好，我們不會同意你們亂用老百姓的錢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我們沒有亂用。 |
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主席：謝謝傅崐萁委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長、各位部會首長的備詢。 |
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上午的質詢到此為止，報告院會，我們下午2點30分繼續開會，進行質詢，現在休息。 |
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休息（12時15分） |
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22 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
院會-11-2-7 |
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韓國瑜 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
江啟臣 |
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1 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2024-11-01 |
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1138801 |
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1138801_00002 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期第7次會議紀錄 |
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報告事項 |
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1138801_00001 |
| IVOD_ID |
156353 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/156353 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-2-7 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-01T11:59:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-01T12:15:23+08:00 |
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gazette |