| IVOD_ID |
154921 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154921 |
| 日期 |
2024-09-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-2-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期第2次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-09-27T11:48:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-09-27T12:04:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| video_url |
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行政院主席 |
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議員好 議員長好 議長辛苦了 民生問題最重要 我拿幾點來叫議員探討一下 議長 你如果聽過最近這1年多來的非常嚴重的一個問題 就是假車牌 假車牌這兩個車牌 一個真 一個假 你有沒有看得出來 沒有人看得出來 警察也看不出來 都看不出來 你就那個比較假吧 |
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就是說第一個交通部交通部要求的提點的那幾個辨識方法你把車牌拔起來放在手上你就看不到了在這裡我們要了解為什麼車牌在最近這一段時間變得這麼嚴重這應該是我們要探討的原因以前車牌 |
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一年都差不多幾十件啦就是說警察抓到的喔我講的是有被查獲的大概一年大概都幾十件但到今年喔已經變六百多件給十倍啦如果沒抓到的我不知道多少啦這基中喔你為什麼要用假車牌 |
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大概有將近4成﹐38% 這競爭數的統計﹐是因為﹐他沒有撤牌﹐用吊牌﹐吊扣撤牌那為什麼會被吊扣撤牌﹐其中我發覺有一個正相關﹐我們在去年﹐我們修改道教條例﹐其中有一條很嚴重的﹐就是說嚴重超速 |
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來我們來定義什麼叫嚴重超輸 因為我們是超過數限60公里 去年我們改做40公里你看那個嚴重超輸的案件 我們就一年都滿幾件 你要看看每一年都1萬多件 那你去年這麼一改 2023年 |
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膨脹4倍 變6萬2千多件 1萬5變6萬2每一件都要白牽牌喔那今年咧 今年到8月 已經5萬6千多件了我大家照這個速度 今年大家有8萬件啦也就是說喔 年中超速超過40 你就白牽牌 白牽牌要靠半年啦 |
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不是啦 就差不多中間有十萬隻車 十萬隻車牌靠在我們的手裡第一個喔 我們想要做什麼 為什麼你要改 我們修法的一個目的第一個希望能夠遏阻違法 或者改善違法的狀況你這個規定把它改掉 不但沒有啦 要越來越嚴重這其中有很多啦 可能就是誤觸規定 誤觸法律 |
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我們交通的規範我們有三個E嘛第一個E就是education你要跟用路人走路也好 開車也好 摩托車也好 你跟他們交要求你的職業規定是什麼第二就是政府的交通工程engineering第三就是enforcement你第三才是處分啦我們現在第二天還沒做我們就直接去案發 |
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第二項是政府要做什麼呢?我們的訴訟有合法嗎?其實如果他訴訟道路啦,我們現在改革他很好喔,他看到啦,他玩到喔,哇,他很好開的,你如果開7、8站齁,你都沒什麼感覺,結果他的訴訟你有辦法改嗎?4站,所以你很容易就誤觸法,結果我們的訴訟規定合理嗎? |
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快速道路你只要施工數字多少?三十那你為所在他只要十四塊錢車就行了那一把開車的人他不會覺得他開得很快你知道現在車越走越好所以他經過那個地方他擺幾個三角錐你曬過後你可能會超出四十你那個卸責你就是為嚴重超出所以調查擺得很嚴重我不知道你們大家注意到沒有 |
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委員長施政報告 |
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所以假車牌很氾濫而且很容易買 |
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現在我們要怎麼動記者牌賣賣?你沒辦法動啊這你要看部會啊因為我們現在發覺這個問題之後所以我們政府當然有要求嘛你去電商買不到了啦你知道一般的電商啦齁什麼Yahoo啦、蝦皮啦你買不到了但是啊你在一個網路平台翠啦、抖音啦、臉書啦來我看幾張印章你看一下 |
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現在要怎麼處理?有什麼方法? |
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好報告委員一方面我們會增加他偽造的難度也就是我們明年開始我們的車牌會做新的版本然後把防偽的技術再更加的加強在明年度我們會來處理這是第一點那第二點針對罰則的部分 |
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道路限速不合理 |
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我們現在也會要求所屬的單位來全國來盤點公路的部分交通部所轄管的是公路的部分公路的部分我們會配合地方政府跟警政單位大家一起來討論這個限速的合理性的部分我相信你讓我大家一起做不是這樣但是我們也要訴考一點這問題要應對才有補充參考譬如說以僑倉來做例子一台車僑倉到底是人的不對還是車的不對 |
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法定人數不足 |
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在某一些路段不合理的限速但是大家經過那一段卻沒有辦法遵守的話我們應該從這個人性化的檢討第一個啦我憑一代人做的啦有幾條很容易觸法的道路啦以兩線道速限50假設合理啦以到阿扁變四線道速限也5站用路的人就很容易觸法嘛所以你這個規定合理嘛 |
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我意思就是說,你應該中央跟地方政府,因為有的樹線是地方政府你領的主管局管是哪個單位就是說你應該要調整一些不合理的對你就是說,你發人還是發車?因為我說你車的車手是人不對還是車不對?那有的車輛可能是他,是這位人民他生活的必需品或是他做生意要行,或是他出來家庭用車 |
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他要上下班啊,他要載孩子啊,要載家裡的老人啊你現在車子擺在那裡,他生活要怎麼辦?所以基本上應該是要著重在處罰人嘛你開車的人,人家的份額最大一點但我們現在有時候喔,很多的那些受理逮不下來就違規的案件啊,越來越多啊,所以你現在給人家再檢查一下 |
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每一個法律每一個會期每一年都修改只有一個道交條例偏向駕駛人修來修去 |
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不應該造成不必要的民怨還是說為什麼你收到法律這個法律你改這樣合理嗎你嚴強敲鎖你從六十八改到四十要怎麼改可以啊為什麼暗箱丟不下來沒有合理的地方在裡面你的事先你有條件你應該是政府改正的法律做好事你改法律你不準時我給你處分 |
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現在因為我們每一年這個報告的數字就增加四倍五倍 |
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主席主席主席 |
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這次我們在台南本市跟我們企駁新年的賴慧媛委員我們都一直在競出競出的時候我看到自己的蔡議員委員也在競出這條就是所有的台37太保道新年要就是高鐵橋下道路各地腳踏的道路這道路 地方一直希望政府來開票 |
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前陣子你評估都說沒有那個階段沒有那個需要其實現在地方發展已經不一樣了這五六年來已經有很大的變化了地方喔加科你也要成立啊跟他放學很久了所以你跟人科應該形成一個科技攔戴嘛這也是印度的這個未來你要做的風雲嘛那麼新年跟台北這是附近兩個最重要的這個 |
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林俊憲議員 |
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最快速直接就可以連結泰寶跟新營因為台南市非常長我們台南是一個長條形的它的K8尤其是大新營 其實它跟嘉義反而是一個生活圈所以你應該連結這兩個地方尤其你現在這個紅線 你看得到嗎 各地結合到哪裡新營的東北邊是新營港口 |
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林俊憲主席 |
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跟委員報告 |
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平估不具效益或是不可行的任何的交通建設或許現在情勢改變我們會重新的來評估那麼剛剛委員所提到的這個臺37線從臺南嘉義這個路段先到科學園區的設置他應該有其新興的一些不瞞您說陳部長跟我講過這件事情剛剛他也很清楚的說他正在努力當中 |
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那有機會啦,不然你叫他做多少,拜託他來積極另外剩下一點時間,我要先感謝卓院長明年寬烈的治水預算因為極端氣候,這個落後,尤其這套風態,我們日南部會很恐怖但是我們台灣過去的秩序,真的好了我想說,目前每年還有一條錢,就是前瞻預算治水的第5期 |
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關於台南﹐台南的頭港﹐中軍區﹐集盟區﹐大島區﹐鹹水區﹐陸地的寮﹐陸泥盟﹐安順寮﹐新田寮﹐青寮﹐老厝﹐各個港﹐一起八中區的整體﹐這部分﹐我想議長要支持﹐但是未來有一個更重要的﹐巴掌市﹐這個政治﹐這未來進入第三期的手段﹐我現在﹐ |
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請議長一定要把這個報文做好誰啊我們過去的地水有進步八八風災啦十幾年前的八八風災啦台南陰五萬五千公頃今年這道啦的這個風災啦凱利颱風啦比八八風災落的火更多但陰水啊存不到存不到三百五十公頃對五萬幾到三十五啦所以這個進步很大但是還是有一些 |
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希望在野黨支持明年的預算又有很多的民生預算 |
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謝謝林俊憲委的 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-09-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:48:26 - 12:04:02 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第2會期第2次會議（事由：對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢） |
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林委員俊憲：（11時48分）謝謝主席。本席邀請我們行政院卓院長。 |
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主席：麻煩再請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：林委員好。 |
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林委員俊憲：院長好。院長辛苦了！ |
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卓院長榮泰：不會！不會。 |
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林委員俊憲：民生問題最重要，我拿幾點來跟院長探討一下。 |
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卓院長榮泰：好。 |
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林委員俊憲：院長，你應該有聽過最近這一年多來非常嚴重的一個問題，就是假車牌問題，這兩個車牌，一個真一個假，你看得出來嗎？沒有人看得出來，警察也看不出來，都看不出來。 |
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卓院長榮泰：上面那個比較假一點。 |
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林委員俊憲：第一個，交通部要求疑點的那幾個辨識方法，你把車牌拆下來放在手上就看不到了，而且我們要了解，為什麼假車牌在最近這一年多來變得這麼嚴重？這應該是我們要探討的原因，以前假車牌一年差不多是幾十件，就是說警察抓到的、有被查獲的，一年大概都幾十件，但到今年已經變六百多件，多十倍，沒有被抓到的我不知道有多少。為什麼要用假車牌？大概有38%，也就是將近四成，這是警政署的統計，主要是因為他沒有車牌、被吊扣車牌。為什麼會被吊扣車牌？我發覺有一個正相關，去年我們有修改道交條例，其中有一條很嚴重，那就是嚴重超速，我們來定義什麼叫做嚴重超速？原本是超過速限60公里，去年我們把它改成40公里，你看嚴重超速的案件本來每一年都是一萬多件，經過去年這麼一改，2023年膨脹四倍，變成六萬兩千多件，一萬五千件變成六萬兩千件，這每一件都要拔車牌喔！今年到8月已經五萬六千多件，按照這個速度，今年大概有八萬件，也就是說你嚴重超速、超過40公里，你就要拔車牌，拔車牌要吊扣半年，常常有將近十萬個車牌扣在我們手裡。第一個，我們修法要做什麼？為什麼你要改？我們修法的目的第一個是希望能夠遏阻違法或是改善違法的狀況，但這個規定改了以後，不但沒有達成目的，反而越來越嚴重，這其中有很多狀況，可能就是誤觸規定、誤觸法律。交通部長也在這裡，我們交通的規範有三個E，第一個E就是Education，你要教用路人，不管是走路也好、開車也好或是騎摩托車也好，你要教他們、要求他們，告訴他們的責任是什麼、規定是怎麼樣。第二個是政府交通的工程（Engineering），第三個才是Enforcement。第三個才是處分，結果我們現在第二項還沒做，就直接去處罰人家。第二項是政府要做的事情，我們的速限有合法嗎？以蘇花公路為例，我們現在把它改得很好，包括寬度、彎度等等，現在好開很多，車速開到七、八十公里也沒什麼感覺，結果它的速限有改嗎？40公里，所以你很容易就誤觸法，請問我們的速限規定合理嗎？快速道路只要施工，速限多少？30公里。有些地方只設一個車道，一般開車的人根本不會覺得他開很快，而且現在的車越做越好，所以他經過那個地方，那裡只擺幾個三角錐，他開過去有可能就超過40公里，如果被拍到就是嚴重超速，所以吊扣車牌才會增加那麼多，我不知道大家有沒有注意到？ |
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現在假車牌造成什麼問題？大家的負擔都很重，法院負擔也很重，現在一年都變成好幾百件，法院、檢察官……因為這牽涉到刑責嘛！我們來看看偽造車牌的理由，我剛才跟部長、院長分享過，最多的就是沒有車牌，吊扣的占38%，38%是因為這個原因，至於剩下的原因，車牌處於正常狀態有17%，這個就有問題了，你有車牌、你的車沒什麼問題，你為什麼要買假車牌？可能就是要犯罪，對不對？準備要做有的沒的事情嘛！所以假車牌很氾濫，而且很容易買，現在我們要怎麼阻擋假車牌買賣？你沒辦法擋啦！這個問題要跨部會處理，現在發覺這個問題之後，政府當然有要求，所以你去電商買不到了，我指的是一般的電商，包括Yahoo、蝦皮你都買不到，但是你在一些網路平臺，像是Threads、抖音、臉書，我拿幾張圖片給院長看一下，你要買的話隨便就買得到，很容易就買到啦！所以這會造成一個社會問題，我們的假車牌現在要怎麼處理？有什麼方法嗎？ |
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陳部長世凱：報告委員，一方面我們會增加它偽造的難度，也就是從明年開始我們的車牌會做新的版本，把防偽的技術再更加地加強，在明年度我們會來處理，這是第一點。第二點，針對罰則的部分，我們有考慮要把使用假車牌的罰則提高，一方面它有罰則提高，二方面其實它也有刑罰，這個部分可能會來加強。再來，您提到一些道路的限速是不是不合理的部分，我們現在也會要求所屬的單位全國來盤點公路的部分，交通部所轄管的是公路的部分，我們會配合地方政府及警政單位大家一起來討論限速的合理性部分…… |
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林委員俊憲：我想你的方法大概就是這樣，但是我們也要思考一點，請院長及部長參考。譬如以超速為例，一台車超速到底是人的不對，還是車的不對？ |
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卓院長榮泰：跟委員的想法一樣，我常常認為在某一個路口如果禁止左轉，特別有左轉車多，除了規定之外，是不是它有需要，我們應該考慮到安全的規定，要改變這個規範。剛剛你說的，在某一些路段不合理的限速，但是大家經過那一段卻沒有辦法遵守的話，我們應該從人性化做檢討。 |
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林委員俊憲：第一個，比方以我們臺南為例，有好幾條很容易觸法的道路。以兩線道速限50公里來講，假設合理，到後面變成四線道，速限也是50公里，用路人就很容易觸法嘛。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：所以你這個規定合理嗎？我的意思是，應該中央跟地方政府……因為有的速限是地方政府在訂的，中央跟地方政府應該要…… |
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陳部長世凱：對，沒錯，要看主管機關是哪個單位。 |
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林委員俊憲：就是你們應該調整一些不合理的地方。第二，你要罰人，還是要罰車？院長，我問你，超速是人不對，還是車不對？有的車輛可能是作為人民生活的必需品，有的是做生意要用，或是家庭用車，要用於上下班、載送小孩或家裡的老人，你把他的車牌拔掉，他的生活要怎麼辦？所以根本上應該要著重在處罰人，對不對？開車的人才要負最大的責任。但是我們現在為了很多數字壓不下來，就是違規的案件越來越多，所以你們現在罰人也罰車，我覺得這個都要思考，要做一個盤點，好不好？ |
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我在立法院交通委員會，我都一直在交通委員會，我相信我們國家沒有一個法律每一個會期、每一年都修改，只有一個例外──道交條例，有人罵了，就一下子偏向用路人，一下子又偏向駕駛人，反正修來修去，都沒有辦法有一個完整的思考，我希望新的部長來了，我們應該好好檢討這個部分。 |
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陳部長世凱：好，沒問題。 |
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林委員俊憲：不應該造成不必要的民怨，或是為什麼修改法律，這個法律改成這樣合理嗎？以嚴重超速來說，你們把速限從60公里改成40公里，如果要這樣改也可以，但是為什麼相關的案件數壓不下來？不合理的地方在哪裡？你的速限有沒有調整？應該是政府先把該做的部分做好，然後再修改法律，不遵守就處分，這樣才對。還有，你們不僅罰人，也罰車，人要記點，車牌也要拔掉，但是車子又是他每天生活上一定要使用的，你逼他做什麼？所以有人就去買假車牌，要不然假車牌的案件怎麼會有這麼多件，對不對？因為我們每一年拔牌的數字現在增加4倍、5倍，造成使用假車牌遭查獲的案件增加10倍，這絕對有一定關連的正相關，好不好？ |
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陳部長世凱：好。 |
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林委員俊憲：再來，這個問題也跟交通有關係，所以請世凱部長留步。接下來我要向院長報告一件事情，我們在臺南包括本席及溪北、新營選區的賴惠員委員一直在爭取，我看到嘉義的蔡易餘委員也在爭取這一項，就是所謂的臺37太保到新營的高鐵橋下道路。關於這條道路，地方一直希望政府來開闢，以前你們評估都認為沒有那個價值、沒有那個需要，其實現在地方發展已經不一樣了，這五、六年來已經有很大的變化，第一，嘉科（嘉義科學園區）就要成立了，接下來應該跟南科形成一個科技廊帶，這也是院長未來要做的方向。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：新營及太保是附近兩個最重要的城市，以這樣來看，如果要從太保來新營也好，或是新營去太保也好，目前只能走藍線跟深藍線，一條是高速公路，一條是縱貫路，剛好繞一大圈，只有黃線高鐵橋下道路，就是台37線，它最快速，直接就可以連結太保跟新營，因為臺南非常長，院長，臺南是長條型的，溪北地區，尤其是大新營，其實它跟嘉義反而是一個生活圈，所以應該要連結這兩個地方，尤其現在如果從這條黃線高鐵橋下道路下來，新營的東半邊是新營工業區，重車特別多，出入要去一高很不方便，它要先向西經過新營市區，才可以走縱貫路或是走高速公路，所以應該要給它另外一個選擇，而且嘉義跟臺南的地方立委，我們都覺得很需要，你們以前沒做，幾年前的估價要八十多億，現在也許要幾百億，越早做CP值越高啦！地方的發展也已經到這個時候了，我希望院長可以支持。 |
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卓院長榮泰：跟委員報告，過去評估不具效益或是不可行的任何交通建設，或許現在情勢改變了，我們會重新來評估。那麼剛剛委員所提到的台37線，臺南、嘉義這一路段，牽涉到科學園區的設置，它應該有其新興的一些……不瞞您說，陳部長跟我講過這件事情，剛剛他也很清楚地說，他正在努力當中。 |
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林委員俊憲：謝謝，部長正在努力當中，這樣有機會啦！部長，你把計畫做好，拜託卓院長支持。 |
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陳部長世凱：報告委員，這個部分我們會積極來辦理。 |
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林委員俊憲：另外，剩下一點時間，我要先感謝卓院長，明年寬列了治水預算。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：因為極端氣候下雨，尤其這次颱風，我們在南部實在很恐怖，但是臺灣過去治水很有效，首先，明年還有一筆錢，就是前瞻預算治水第5期，關係到臺南的頭港、將軍溪、曾文溪、虎頭溪、鹽水溪、六塊寮、鹿耳門、安順寮、新田寮、菁寮、劉厝、龜仔港及八掌溪的整治，這部分謝謝院長的支持。但是還有一個更大、更重要的，就是八掌溪的整治，未來要進入第三期，請院長一定要把這個部分做好。過去的治水有進步，十幾年前的八八風災，臺南淹水面積5萬5,000公頃；今年，凱米颱風比八八風災下的雨更多，但是淹水地區剩下不到350公頃，面積從五萬多到三百五，所以進步很大，但是還是有一些地方，尤其在溪北的地方，以現代社會來說，只要淹水，政府都應該要解決，不過現在預算卻被在野黨擋住了、卡住了。 |
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卓院長榮泰：我們繼續努力。 |
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林委員俊憲：這不是開玩笑！ |
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卓院長榮泰：誠如委員說的，凱米颱風之後，我們在明年的治水預算加了115億，總共到551億，今年還有…… |
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林委員俊憲：我希望在野黨要支持明年的預算，又有很多的民生預算、治水預算…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我相信他們一定會的。 |
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主席：謝謝林俊憲委員的質詢，謝謝卓院長的備詢。 |
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報告院會，上午質詢到此為止，下午2時30分繼續開會進行質詢，我們現在休息。 |
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休息（12時4分） |
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19 |
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院會-11-2-2 |
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韓國瑜 |
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1 |
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2024-09-27 |
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1137601 |
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1137601_00002 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期第2次會議紀錄 |
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報告事項 |
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1137601_00001 |