| IVOD_ID |
154182 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154182 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-1-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期第19次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期第19次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-25T15:29:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-25T15:46:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/63224dc0dd2f91fbfac8103b7962fbc64c867c7a3ae89c5402ac479e6c663ba99f7d644b0591455c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:29:51 - 15:46:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第1會期第19次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項。（6月21日）
二、對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢。（6月25日）
三、6月21日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。
四、6月25日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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賴委員士葆：（15時30分）謝謝主席以及各位先進，有請行政院卓院長以及外交部林部長。 |
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主席：麻煩請卓院長及外交部林部長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰：賴委員好。 |
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林部長佳龍：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：兩位長官好。首先，我記得在外交及國防委員會，我有給林佳龍部長稱讚啦…… |
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林部長佳龍：謝謝。 |
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賴委員士葆：按照check record，過去的學經歷，你是耶魯的政治博士，當過臺中市長，立法委員你們兩個都有當過，你還當過交通部長等等，反觀我們現在的卓院長，就是跟我一樣，陽春立委做完，一路做，還當過民進黨代理主席一段時間…… |
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卓院長榮泰：不是代理，報告委員，那不是代理，那是選出來的。 |
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賴委員士葆：選出來的？好，選出來的，就是當一個黨職，一般來講，黨職的社會評價都不高啦，以社會評價來講，其實林佳龍比卓榮泰高。 |
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卓院長榮泰：是的。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼你當院長他當部長，他心裡不平嘛！我那時候問他…… |
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卓院長榮泰：因為我沒有能力去當外交部長啦。 |
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賴委員士葆：我那時候問他，他說心裡不舒服啊，他這樣說啊！ |
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林部長佳龍：不會，外交很重要，受總統跟院長的邀請，我承擔…… |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼他做，因為正國會沒有位置擺林佳龍，所以他百般無奈坐在這裡！好，既然你坐在這個位子就要認真做事情，該有的作為都要有，最近有一件事情，我對林佳龍院長，林佳龍部長，你看我都會把你叫成院長，我心裡都認為你當院長了，我對你的尊敬打一半，我對你的評價好感大幅降低啊，因為你卡韓國瑜啊，坐在那裏，你是看他不順眼是不是？有沒有？ |
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林部長佳龍：我有共推韓院長做董事長。 |
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賴委員士葆：對啊，為什麼開始給他這麼穿小鞋呢？基金會執行長盧業中是政大外交系的系主任，他也當過民主基金會副執行長5年耶，結果你們硬把他幹掉，請問你下一次什麼時候給他提名？會不會…… |
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林部長佳龍：報告委員，我們尊重民主基金會董事會的決定…… |
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賴委員士葆：沒有！你是副董事長，但你一手在那裡「弄」啦，一手在那裡「弄」，很清楚看得到，現在國外的駐台單位對這個事情表達嚴重關切喔，好幾個國外駐臺單位都說what's going on？TFD的執行長為什麼沒有辦法產生？請問有沒有收到外國駐臺灣的單位給你的關切？有沒有？ |
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林部長佳龍：經過我們查證，那是一個假訊息啦…… |
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賴委員士葆：沒有？ |
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林部長佳龍：沒有。 |
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賴委員士葆：美國的NED也沒有？ |
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林部長佳龍：沒有。 |
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賴委員士葆：請問你知不知道全世界世界民主運動大會今年在哪裡舉辦？你都不知道啊！心不在焉啊！你心裡只有在意位子而已啊！ |
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林部長佳龍：在韓國舉辦，韓國。 |
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賴委員士葆：韓國？亂講一通！ |
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林部長佳龍：世界民主…… |
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賴委員士葆：在南非約翰尼斯堡。什麼時候開始舉行？今年，你也不知道！這樣子你還干預民主基金會的人事！請問你，我們一般部長都會去拜訪立委，請問外交委員會的委員有幾位？ |
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林部長佳龍：外交委員會大概13位…… |
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賴委員士葆：13位，你都一個一個拜訪了嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我就是儘可能啦，因為有些委員公出或比較忙。 |
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賴委員士葆：其中有「一尊」這麼大尊的你沒有去拜會耶！ |
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林部長佳龍：有，我有…… |
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賴委員士葆：有嗎？有嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我有跟院長的隨扈留話，但還沒有安排上。 |
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賴委員士葆：有嗎？沒有嘛！院長，我沒有講錯嘛，沒有啊！你心裡對卓榮泰的憤怒轉移到韓國瑜的身上，我替院長叫屈！你瞧不起院長、瞧不起立法院！ |
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林部長佳龍：如果院長有空，我隨時一定會去跟院長請益。 |
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賴委員士葆：老實說，我當這麼久的立委，部長來不來我都無所謂，但是他是院長，不一樣，你不去看院長，其他委員你都去看了，院長那裡你不去看是什麼意思？藐視國會！藐視院長！ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，我有去看院長喔。 |
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賴委員士葆：我知道，你有看啦，所以…… |
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卓院長榮泰：看了兩次喔。 |
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賴委員士葆：因為他可以去看，所以他當院長你當部長。 |
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林部長佳龍：報告委員，我有請院長的隨扈幫我聯繫，因為時間上沒有辦法排好，那個時候…… |
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賴委員士葆：怎會那麼奇怪？！就心不甘情不願，哪有那種事情，我每天去站著等著他，絕對碰得到啦！怎麼會碰不到？ |
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林部長佳龍：那我以後跟委員一起去。 |
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賴委員士葆：你不用看我，我不是外交委員會的，你要看院長…… |
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林部長佳龍：好。 |
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賴委員士葆：院長是國防委員會的委員耶！他是國防委員會的委員呢！所以你看，卓榮泰就當院長，你就沒有當院長了，差在這裡。結果，民主基金會做什麼你也不知道，今年的世界民主運動大會在哪裡？在約翰尼斯堡，你也不知道，那你部長做假的。 |
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林部長佳龍：剛舉行過的就在韓國。 |
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賴委員士葆：還是要說「姑不二三將」啦，不然也好啦，雞肋啦，「加減罔食按呢爾爾」嘞？你不知道？ |
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林部長佳龍：跟委員報告，因為叫做「世界民主高峰會」的很多個，最近就是以拜登為主召開的那一個在韓國。 |
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賴委員士葆：你說的是另外一個啦！我跟你說的是跟美國一起的啦！ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，你如果認為林部長確實是一個不可多得的人才，你應該多給他鼓勵，而不是這樣子…… |
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賴委員士葆：在你面前他就沒有啦。 |
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卓院長榮泰：沒有，沒有，他就是非常，我曾經幾次說他是我們從有史以來，能夠用經貿的觀念、文化的觀念去經營外交關係的一位部長，我們對他寄望都很深，也希望在這裡能夠發揮他的長才…… |
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賴委員士葆：你知道嗎，這個叫「世界民主運動大會（World Movement for Democracy, WMD）」以前有在臺灣舉辦過，今年度是在……，今年是跟……，我們TFD跟美國NED共同主辦，在2022的時候主辦過，2024年就要在約翰尼斯堡，11月20號到22號，你完全不知道，然後你要干預民主基金會的運作，你是憑哪一點啊？就憑你叫做林佳龍？不是，憑你是民進黨，不可以這樣欺負…… |
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林部長佳龍：報告委員，因為2023年在臺灣舉辦，我有參與，以總統府秘書長的身分，所以對民主基金會…… |
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賴委員士葆：我跟你講，民主基金會的副董事長…… |
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林部長佳龍：也能夠舉辦很成功的這次高峰會，我後來到韓國…… |
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賴委員士葆：民主基金會的副董事長是小於民主基金會的董事長，董事長是在這裡，你們就一路卡，時間也卡，人選也卡，你什麼時候可以搞定？ |
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林部長佳龍：董事會的決定是敦請我們韓院長（董事長）主持來提名，董事會會行使同意權…… |
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賴委員士葆：可以提早召開臨時董事會，決定執行長的人選嗎？可以嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：那應該尊重董事長，他可以召集。 |
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賴委員士葆：董事長聽了，可以啦！我們下禮拜就召開，下禮拜就召開，這個補起來，因為國外的駐臺單位已經「擋袂牢」啊，特別是NED美國國家民主基金會「擋袂牢」，他說我要跟你們合作…… |
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林部長佳龍：我跟委員報告，因為那是假訊息…… |
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賴委員士葆：執行長在哪裡啊？林佳龍董事，執行長咧？ |
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林部長佳龍：那個有人操作的啦！它就透過媒體放出來，事實上我們跟美國的民主基金會，我們聯繫的管道很好。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，你請回吧，我就知道你只有想當官，想取代他，不好好認真努力啦！民主基金會，部長，你聽我一句話，先不要走，你站在那裡聽我講一句話就好。你們用這樣來卡，沒問題，對不起，民主基金會錢不多，1.8億不到2億，我們立法院就好好伺候你們，同時伺候你們外交部預算，馬上就要審預算了，我們看著辦，走著瞧看著辦，這樣欺負韓國瑜，你看著好了，欺負韓國瑜等於欺負立法院，特別是欺負立法院的國民黨團，我們絕對全力做他的後盾，看著辦。 |
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院長，這個總統，賴清德總統到現在為止，我沒有看到總統啊！Where is the President of 賴清德？It's gone.不見了，他就是民進黨的主席…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我經常看到總統，沒有，我經常看到賴總統。 |
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賴委員士葆：他昨天講的…… |
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卓院長榮泰：昨天他也以軍禮代表中華民國國人跟政府歡迎友邦的總理…… |
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賴委員士葆：你不要講，我跟卓院長報告，我的時間很短，我沒有叫你講，你不要講話，好不好？讓我把這個講完，因為我時間太少了。 |
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外面共軍擾台，總統大搞內鬥，根據憲法第四十四條，總統有權力協調五院，大家有爭議協調一下，他不要協調耶，直接對幹。總統不見了，只見了民進黨的主席叫賴清德，結果呢，TAIDE，類似ChatGPT，我們國科會發展出來的，它說什麼？注意看喔，它說總統發動抗議並號召各機關共同反對國會通過的重大法案，可能被視為獨裁皇帝行為。他是皇帝啊！emperor，帝王啊。 |
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卓院長榮泰：不是這樣子。 |
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賴委員士葆：他是帝王emperor，他不是president……你不要講話，我現在要講完，我就不會叫你回答，因為你不是賴清德。你既然喜歡講話，我讓你來看這個東西，就是憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款，你自己也講過啊！覆議不過怎麼辦？你說覆議不過我就接受，沒有辭職的選項，是你講的嘛！對不對？ |
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卓院長榮泰：是。 |
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賴委員士葆：是嘛！但是憲法裡面規定得這麼清楚，原來是第五十七條，現在是增修條文，已經改了，第五十七條是規定要辭職，增修條文是規定不要辭職，但是要接受，既然你接受了，你還提什麼釋憲？是提「頭殼破一空」嗎？人格錯亂啦！先不要急，我的整體感覺就是你追隨賴皇帝、emperor賴，一起加入追殺在野黨的行列，他一聲令下，調動你行政院，調動監察院，調動立院黨團，一起追殺在野黨，讓臺灣變成了一個紮紮實實的獨裁帝制國家，可憐啦！你可以講話了，給你講30秒，來，你講！ |
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卓院長榮泰：委員，你剛剛跟林部長說：欺負韓院長就是欺負立法院，剛剛你那一席話對總統不禮貌、對國家不禮貌，我提出覆議是因為窒礙難行，既然它沒有過，我認為從憲法上來講，它就是違憲不可行…… |
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賴委員士葆：憲法也講，你提出覆議就是違憲，憲法規定你要接受啊！You have got to accept it！你就接受而已啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：憲法有賦予行政院長提出覆議的權力…… |
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賴委員士葆：提出覆議就代表你不接受啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：憲法有賦予行政院長提出覆議的權力。 |
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賴委員士葆：你就是不能接受啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：覆議是因為窒礙難行。 |
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賴委員士葆：如果窒礙難行的話，你可以提釋憲，但是你不要提覆議…… |
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卓院長榮泰：我認為窒礙難行，當然可以提覆議啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：二擇一，你不能兩者都要啊！哪有這樣子的？而且你提覆議輸了，你不要下臺，然後現在又提釋憲，好康的都要拿去哦？吃乾抹淨，這個到底只是賴清德的小跟班，可憐啊！可憐啊！可憐啊！可憐啊！可憐啊！可憐啊！ |
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卓院長榮泰：報告委員，總統跟行政院長都是照憲法的秩序來，你應該支持，否則你就是反憲法。 |
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賴委員士葆：我跟你講，憲法第五十七條後來改成增修條文，你要接受，既然接受，你提什麼覆議？你告訴我，你提什麼覆議？這就是打我們耳光嘛！對不對？ |
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卓院長榮泰：因為窒礙難行啊！我認為窒礙難行，大院不接受，我認為違憲不可行，我請求司法院大法官會議來處理。 |
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賴委員士葆：你看一看嘛！你怎麼有臉再提釋憲？你提覆議都輸了，怎麼有臉再提釋憲呢？釋憲應該是總統提。 |
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卓院長榮泰：提一百個理由都很難說服委員，我知道啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：總統提可以，對不對？監察院提可以，夠了啦！老實講，總統一個人就夠了，而且老實講，賴清德皇帝做了這個事情是最壞的示範，非常的…… |
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卓院長榮泰：你再一次用這種方式來對總統不禮貌，我絕對不能接受。 |
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賴委員士葆：我講話你不要插嘴。 |
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卓院長榮泰：但是你不禮貌，我就不能接受。 |
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賴委員士葆：我怎麼不禮貌呢？我講賴清德皇帝，很禮貌啊！稱呼他皇帝耶！ |
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卓院長榮泰：一個遵照憲法的總統怎麼會被你稱呼為皇帝呢？ |
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賴委員士葆：皇帝啊！他的行為就是皇帝啊！我們可以看啊！像監察院，然後大法官都是你們提名的，大法官15個人，8個人就可以開會，1個人當主席，7個人中只要4個人就可以決定，就把我們幹掉了，4個人推翻113個人的決議，我們的國會改革五法，民進黨的版本占了四成，這個要好好的檢討，我再講一遍，這個你不用回答，你這樣整體的表現，我對你的評價越來越低、越來越低，你把自己作賤…… |
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卓院長榮泰：因為你對憲法沒有認知嘛！ |
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賴委員士葆：自作賤變成賴皇帝的小跟班。好，我們來看這個，國防部長請一起上來，我時間剩很少，快一點！ |
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主席：麻煩請國防部長備詢。 |
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賴委員士葆：AIT的孫曉雅要離開之前講了一句話，叫臺灣人民不要恐慌，面對大陸一直包、一直包，不要恐慌，但是不要麻木不仁，你不覺得我們現在……在部長一上來之後說沒有第一擊欸！顧部長上來以後說沒有第一擊，只有自衛權，就是他打我們，我們才打他，一直說、一直說，結果他們的軍艦來了，潛水艇來了，什麼都來，我們這裡什麼都沒有，還居然搞我們的漢光演習！有一句話很有意思，院長，不知道你有沒有注意到，漢光演習居然是最貼近實戰的，結果還講了一句話，說如果看到裝備故障，軍人的服裝不整、技術不熟練，大家要習以為常。可憐喔！臺灣中華民國的國軍什麼時候這麼「落漆」、落魄？部長，你們怎麼會定一個守則說，看到這樣的情況不要見怪不怪？我的感覺，你這個方法、這樣的講法只是討拍而已，是你們官員講的、你們司長級講的。 |
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顧部長立雄：跟委員報告，我們因為實戰化的訓練，採24小時實兵、實時、實地、實裝作業連續方式演練，來檢測實戰化訓練的成果。 |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有回答我的問題啊，你沒有回答我的問題啊！ |
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顧部長立雄：在這個過程當中有服…… |
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賴委員士葆：服裝不整、裝備壞了…… |
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顧部長立雄：服裝有些……因為在五天四夜的過程當中，如果有任何服儀不整的情況，我們要求指揮官或者各級的引導幹部不能對這個加以處分。 |
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賴委員士葆：是嘛！院長…… |
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顧部長立雄：另外就是裝備的部分，我們就是要…… |
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賴委員士葆：我們的國軍變得這麼落魄…… |
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顧部長立雄：根據實際的狀況來進行實戰化的演練，不要再拘泥於形式主義。 |
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賴委員士葆：演習最重要的就是對抗，部長…… |
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顧部長立雄：要用實際的妥善率來進行這樣的實戰化訓練。 |
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賴委員士葆：現在已經不錄音了啦！ |
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主席：好…… |
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賴委員士葆：今天參謀總長沒有來，請問你，部長先不要離開，以後你到外交及國防委員會備詢都要帶參謀總長嗎？ |
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顧部長立雄：沒有，根據釋字第461號解釋，參謀總長只有列席備詢，被邀請的情況下才會去，不然的話，應該都是我去。 |
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賴委員士葆：這一次他不是被邀請，是你請他去的？ |
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顧部長立雄：不是，是召委邀請他…… |
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主席：謝謝，謝謝賴士葆委員的質詢、謝謝卓院長、國防部的備詢。接下來我們請登記第2號黃仁委員質詢。 |
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施政質詢
對行政院院長報告施政方針繼續質詢─ 繼續質詢─ |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進。有請行政院的左院長以及外交部的林部長。麻煩請左院長、外交部、林部長備選。賴委員好。兩位長官好。首先,我記得在外交委員會、國務委員會,我對林佳龍部長有跟你噁落。 |
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按照過去的學金曆﹑耶魯的政治博士﹑當過台中市長﹑當過立法委員﹑當過交通部長等等的﹑反觀我們現在的卓院長﹑就是跟我一樣楊純立委做完﹑一路做一個民進黨代理主席﹑ |
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不是代理,報告委員,那不是代理,那是選出來的。選出來的,好,選出來的,就當一個黨籍啦齁,黨籍一般來講社會評價不高啦,社會評價其實林佳龍評價不高的。為什麼你當院長他當部長,他心裡不平啦,我那時候問他齁。我沒有能力去當外交部長。我那時候問他,他說心裡不舒服啊,他這樣說。 |
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那個賴士葆那個總統跟院長的邀請我來承擔。因為喔,正國會沒有賴士葆林佳龍百般無奈解體教。好,既然你沒解體教就隱情做台詞。該有的做法都做。最近有一件事情。 |
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我有共推韓院長做董事長 |
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為什麼開始給他怎麼穿小鞋呢?基金會的執行長魯業忠政大外交系的系主任他也當過民主基金會的副執行長五年內結果你們一把他幹掉請問你下次什麼時候給他提名? |
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報告委員齁,我們尊重民主基金會董事會的決定。沒有尊重民主基金會,你副董事長在你一手在那裡嚷嚷,你在那裡嚷嚷。很清楚看得到現在國外的駐台單位,他們對這事情表達嚴重的關切喔。好幾個國外的駐台單位都說,What's going on? |
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TFD嘛是吧? |
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TFN? |
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為什麼執行長沒有辦法產生?請問有沒有接到外國駐台灣的單位給你的關係?有沒有?沒有。美國的MED也沒有。請問你知不知道全世界世界民主運動大會今年在哪裡舉辦? |
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賴士葆賴士葆賴士葆賴 |
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我們外交委員會大概13位（十三位你都一個一個拜訪的嗎（我就是盡可能啦因為我一些委員公出比較忙（其中有幾三這大三你沒有去報過的（有我有跟院長（有嗎（的隨乎有留到還沒有安排上（有嗎沒有嗎喔 院長我沒講錯嗎沒有啊（ |
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你心裡被卓榮台的憤怒轉移到韓國瑜的身上。 我替院長叫去。 如果院長有空我隨時一定會去跟院長請議。 倒是這樣啊。 我當這麼久的立委。 部長來不來我都無所謂。 但是他是院長不一樣。 你不去院長看。 其他委員你都去看了。 院長不去看什麼意思? |
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你要是國會。 |
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報告委員我有去看院長喔。（賴士葆報告委員我有請那個院長的隨乎幫我聯繫啦因為這個時間上沒有辦法排好。（賴士葆那我以後跟委員一起去。（賴士葆 |
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這個你不用看我,我不是外交委員會的,你要看院長。 院長是國防委員會委員捏!他是國防委員會委員捏!所以你看昨天他就有當院長,你就沒當院長了,差你幾樣!結果民主基金會做什麼你也不知道! |
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今年的時間民主運動大會在哪裡?在約翰尼斯堡,你也不知道! |
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你是普通做假的! |
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叫做世界民主高峰會的很多個。 最近就是以拜登為主召開的那一個在韓國。 |
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世界民主運動大會我們for democracy |
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WMD這以前在臺灣舉辦過今年度是在今年是跟我們TFD跟美國MED共同主辦在2022的時候主辦過2020年2020年就要在預案理事堡10月20日到22號你完全不知道 |
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好,你要感應民主基金會的運作,你是憑哪一頂啊?就憑你叫林佳龍?不是!憑你是民進黨,不能可以講清楚!我可以講齁,民主基金會的副董事長,民主基金會的副董事長,民主基金會副董事長是小禹民主基金會董事長,董事長是在這。你們就一路卡,時間你也卡,人選你也卡,你什麼時候可以考定? |
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那個董事會的這個決定是敦請我們韓院長董事長主持來這個提名那董事會會行同意權可以提早再開可以提早再開以此董事會決定如執行長的人選嗎?可以嗎? |
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應該尊重董事長,他可以召集董事會。我們下禮拜就召開,下禮拜就召開,這個補起來,因為國外的駐台單位已經倒霉掉了,特別是NEF,美國國家民主基金會倒霉掉,他說我要跟你們補起來。我跟委員報告,因為那是假訊息啦,那個有人操作的啦,就通過媒體放出來。實行長啊。事實上我們跟那個美國的民主基金會,我們聯繫管道很好。 |
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你請我回吧我都知道你只要想當官想取代他不好好認真努力啦民主基金會部長你聽我一句話先不要走部長先不要走先不要走你聽我講一句話就好了你沒用這樣的卡沒問題對不起民主基金會錢不多1.8億不到2億我們立法院就好好死守你們 |
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同時事後你們外交部預算,馬上就預算審預算了,我們看著辦,走著想要看著辦,這樣欺負韓國瑜,你看著好了,欺負韓國瑜等於欺負立法院,這個是欺負立法院的國民黨團,我們絕對全力做到後盾。 |
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這個總統啊賴清德總統到現在為止我沒有看到總統啊Where is the president of 賴清德It's gone 不見了他就是民進黨的主席啊昨天軍禮他也在代表中華民國國人跟政權歡迎友邦的總理我沒有講叫你講你不要講話好不好讓我把這個講完因為我時間太少了 |
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外面共軍鬧台 總統大搞內鬥 根據憲法44條 總統有權力協調5月 大家有權力協調一下 他不要協調了直接對幹 總統不見了 只見了民進黨的主席叫賴清德 結果呢 太多 太多 |
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TA、IBE、TAI、NAS、CHAT、GBT我們國共會發展出來的他說什麼注意看喔他說總統發動抗議並號召各機關共同反對國會通過的重大法案可能被視為獨裁皇帝行為但是皇帝啊NPO帝王啊 |
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你不要講話,我現在講話,我就不會叫你回答,因為你不是,你不是來心得。 在看你,你既然想講,讓你來看這個東西。 憲法正確條款,第三條第二項第二款,你自己也講過啊,說覆議不過怎麼辦,覆議不過我就接受,沒有辭職的現象,你講什麼,對不對? |
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是嘛!但是,我憲法裡面定的這麼清楚,原來47條,現在是徵修條款,改了47條之後要辭職。徵修條款說不要辭職,但是要接受。既然你接受了,你還提什麼死刑?提討一項嗎? |
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人格錯亂啊先不要急我的真正感覺就是你追隨賴皇帝安普洛賴一起加入追殺在野黨的行列他一聲令下調動你行政院調動檢察院調動立憲黨團一起追殺在野黨讓台灣變成一個紮紮實實的獨裁帝制國家可能啊你可以講給你講30秒 |
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委員你剛剛跟林部長說欺負韓院長就是欺負立法院剛剛你那一句話對總統不禮貌對國家不禮貌我提出復議是因為自愛難行既然他沒有過我認為從憲法上他就是違憲不可行你提出復議就是違憲憲法規定你要接受啊You got to accept |
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你就接受而已啊,你怎麼可以提復議呢?復議,復議代表你不接受啊復議是因為自愛難行如果自愛難行的話,你可以提實現,但是你不要提復議我認為自愛難行當然可以提復議啊而且你提復議輸了,你不要下台,然後現在提實現 |
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發言委員：賴士葆 |
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你要接受,既然接受你提什麼覆議?你告訴我提什麼覆議?因為自愛難行啊,我認為自愛難行大院不接受。我認為違憲不可行,我請求司法大法官會議來處理。提覆議你開一開嘛,你怎麼有臉在提覆議?你都,不是,你覆議都輸了怎麼有臉提四憲呢?四憲可以總統提,可以。總統提可以。對不對?經常一提可以,夠了啦。那是跟總統講不夠啊。阿前老師講。 |
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賴清德皇帝做了這事情是最壞的事。 再一次用這種方式來對總統不禮貌,我絕對不能接受。 我講話你不要插嘴。 但是你不禮貌我就不能接受。 我說不禮貌很禮貌,賴清德皇帝很禮貌啊。 稱呼他皇帝也知道。 一個遵照憲法的總統怎麼會被你稱呼為皇帝呢? |
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皇帝啊,他行為就是皇帝啊。 我們可以看喔。 |
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他叫監察院然後大法官都是你們提名的大概15個人8個人就可以開會一個人當主席7個人4個人就可以決定就把我們跟掉了4個人推翻113個人的決議我們的國外改革無法民進黨版本上的事成 |
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828.83 |
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麻煩請國防部長備詢 |
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孫小營還要離開之前AIT的他講了一句話叫臺灣人民不要恐慌面對大陸一直包一直包不要恐慌但是不要麻木不忍你不覺得我們現在在邱部長一上來之後說沒有第一級耶邱國正整個要郭部長上來沒有第一級只有自衛權的第一級他打我們我們再打他 |
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一直說一直說,結果他們的軍艦來了,這個艦來了,潛水艇來了,什麼都來,啊我們這裡什麼都沒有,還居然搞我們的海關演習。有一句話很有意思啊,院長你一定要注意喔,海關演習居然是最貼近實戰的,結果還講了一句話,說如果看到裝備故障, |
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跟委員報告 |
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978.263 |
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主席 |
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謝謝賴士葆委員的質詢。謝謝卓院長國防部的備詢。接下來我們請登記第二號黃仁委員質詢。 |