| IVOD_ID |
154066 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/154066 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-35-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-17T11:49:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-17T11:54:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/730d19f328ad3b927767da789abfa980afafc43ba26a3505b189cb9423c50d570283c51cbb0d84855ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:49:04 - 11:54:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議【含秘密會議】（事由：一、邀請國防部報告「海空戰力提升計畫採購進度及執行成效」，並備質詢。
二、邀請國防部報告「國防部機密專案預算需求」，並備質詢。【報告秘密，詢答「先秘密、後公開」】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時49分）主席、各位委員。有請部長。 |
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主席：來，部長請。 |
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顧部長立雄：是，鄭委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。過去在你當立委的時候，我們常見面，你離開之後，大概是第一次見到你。 |
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顧部長立雄：是，很高興見到委員。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：今天要特別談精良軍備，這是我們不斷要去採購或製造的，這些都應該，但是更要有精良的軍人。我們看2023年10月16號的報導：志願役不適服，兩年超過七千人離開志願役。這樣的一個數字是相當高，我們看112年度國防部預算書，113年度的沒有呈現，113年度的部分請國防部再補充，提書面資料給我，可以嗎？我們看112年的預算書，軍官人數是3萬6,710人；士官8萬9,801人；士兵，這裡指的是志願役，有4萬4,911人。這樣的數字，志願役士兵最重要，當然士官、軍官也要有，他們是第一線的，還是要有，但是這個人數真的很少，像我剛才講的不適服，兩年離開這麼多，指的就是志願役士兵。我們看112年志願役士兵實領薪資，當然今年有調薪、有增加，我們就以這個數字來比較，二等兵三萬五千三百二十元、一等兵三萬七千多、上等兵三萬八千多，這樣的數額真的很低。我們看勞工薪資的現況，基本工資2021年開始不斷提升，這是應該的，當時基本工資月薪是新臺幣二萬四千元，2021年每月勞工平均經常薪資是四萬三千多，部長，2021年時就比志願役士兵高很多，有四萬三千多；2022年基本工資調高為二萬五千兩百五十元，然後勞工平均薪資是四萬四千四百一十七元；2023年基本工資又調高，為二萬六千四百元，勞工平均薪資也調高到四萬五千四百九十六元；2024（今）年，基本工資調高為二萬七千四百七十元，勞工平均薪資為四萬六千一百零五元。我們回頭來看志願役士兵實領薪資，當然這是112年的數字，113年有再調高，所以相關數字後續可以提供嗎？部長，113年的數據可以書面資料提供給我嗎？ |
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顧部長立雄：可以。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：講這些，就是讓部長去跟相關部會、主計總處等要求提高志願役的相關薪資，當然也包括士官、軍官，尤其是士兵。剛才前面有委員提到軍人平均幾歲就要離開，如果沒有再晉升，譬如志願役士兵沒有升士官、士官沒有升軍官、少尉沒有升中尉、中尉沒有升上尉、沒有升少校、沒有升中校，他就要退了，所以年齡都還很低，就會涉及到後面的問題，下次再跟你討論後面相關的問題。基本上，精良的軍備，也要有精良的職業軍人，那才是真正的備戰，對不對？不然的話，如何備戰？因為部長你剛上任，回去之後請好好加油。 |
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顧部長立雄：就是提高留營率，還有看看哪些部隊的編現比過低，我們要對症下藥，這個部分我們正在積極的研議。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝部長。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員，部長請回。 |
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報告鄭委員，這是沒有含加給的。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道，勞工的部分也沒有包括…… |
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主席：勞工的加給跟他們不一樣，謝謝。 |
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接下來進行詢答的委員是翁曉玲委員。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、邀請國防部報告「海空戰力提升計畫採購進度及執行成效」，並備質詢；二、邀請國防部報
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主席、各位委員、有請部長來,部長請是,政委部長好過去在你當立委的時候我們常見面不過離開之後我們大概第一次見到你是很高興見到委員今天特別談 |
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這個是我們不斷的要去採購或是去製造都應該的但是也要有更要有精良的軍人我們看這個是2023年10月16號的一個報導 |
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自願役不是服然後兩年超過七千人離開我們的自願役這樣的一個數字是相當高我們看這個是一百一十二年度的國防部的預算書一一三年度沒有呈現 |
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希望113年度的部分也請國防部再補充,可以嗎?提書面資料給我。好,我們看這個軍官 |
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軍官的人數上望六千七百一十人這是一百一十二年度的預算書士官八望九千八百零一人士兵這個士兵是指志願役部長這是志願役的士兵四望四千九百一十一人這樣的數字 |
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志願役、士兵士兵更重要當然士官要有軍官也要有但是第一線的還是要有但是這個人數真的是很少所以剛才講的這個士服兩年就離開這麼多就是指士兵志願役的士兵 |
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我們看這個這是112年志願役士兵的實領的薪資當然這個今年有調薪有增加了那我們就以這個數字來做比較二等兵35320元一等兵37000多上等兵38000多這樣的一個數真的是很低 |
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我們看這個勞工基本勞工的薪資的一個現況基本工資2021年開始不斷的提升都應該的當時月薪台幣240002021年每月經常的勞工的平均薪資4萬3000多部長 |
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2022年基本工資25250勞工平均薪資44117元 |
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然後2023年基本工資又調高兩萬六千四百勞工的平均薪資也調高了四萬五千四百九十六元2024年今年基本工資也調高了兩萬七千四百七十這個平均勞工的平均薪資四萬六千一百零五所以我們如果看我們的 |
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報告秘密． |
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講這個就是要讓部長要去跟相關的部會組織總署要提升自願役的相關的席次當然包括事官、軍官尤其是士兵剛才前面委員有提到平均幾歲就要離開了 |
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他沒有再升的時候,士兵啊,志願役的士兵沒有升士官,士官沒有升軍官,少尉沒有升中尉,中尉沒有升上尉,沒有升少校,沒有升中校,他就要退了,所以年齡都很低。 |
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就會涉及到後面的下次再跟你討論這個有關後面的這個相關的這些就業的部分所以基本上這個精良的軍備也要有精良的軍人職業軍人來去才能夠真正能夠那個才是真正能夠備戰啊 |
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對嗎?不然的話如何備戰?部長這個是新...這個因為你剛上任啊就是回去讓你記提高流言率還有這個看看哪些部隊的這個邊線比過低我們要對症下藥這個部分我正在積極的研議這樣子謝謝鄭天財委員部長請回這個是沒有含加級的我知道這個沒有含加級 |
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老公的家籍沒有? |