| IVOD_ID |
153875 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153875 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
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| 開始時間 |
2024-06-12T12:13:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-12T12:24:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4f10fa8b3f7cd8195ef40c51a0d5ef5b182e407f268492bcf1306821ff1b0f81e70cc8ca7686fb325ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:13:07 - 12:24:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、法務部、內政部警政署就「《洗錢防制法》修正草案與《詐欺犯罪危害防制條例》之制定對於防制虛擬資產及交易業務事業（VASP）淪為詐騙工具」、金融監督管理委員會就「虛擬資產專法制定進程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【6月12日及13日二天一次會】） |
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羅委員明才：（12時13分）謝謝召委。各位委員、出列席官員，大家好。其實召委很想去日本啦！但是因為在會期當中，我們還是看事辦事，等會議結束以後，再看實際的需求，如果有需要的話，我們再安排。 |
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主席：好，再討論。 |
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羅委員明才：因為現在是延會，所以我們還是照委員會的規定，該怎麼做就怎麼做。是不是可以請主委？ |
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主席：有請彭主委。 |
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羅委員明才：彭主委好。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：委員好。 |
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羅委員明才：今天說到虛擬貨幣等等的交易情況，請問美國有沒有發行虛擬貨幣的ETF交易項目？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：有。美國確實已經開始在做比特幣的ETF交易。 |
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羅委員明才：所以比特幣在臺灣到底是一個合法的商品或者是類似毒品？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我們剛才說過，現在比特幣在臺灣已經有在做交易，我們不是把它視為有價證券，它就是一般的商品。 |
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羅委員明才：所以比特幣在臺灣交易是合法的，還是非法？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：目前應該都有在交易中。 |
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羅委員明才：是什麼交易？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我們現在就是現貨交易。 |
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羅委員明才：是合法還是非法？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：現在是合法，只要滿足我們洗錢防制的規定。 |
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羅委員明才：所以現在是合法。請問未來會不會變成非法？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：目前我們沒辦法做這個預期，不過我們也要看國際上的趨勢。 |
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羅委員明才：好，今天是合法，請問明年是不是合法？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：其實商品工具本身是中性的，如果今天有產生什麼問題或者怎麼樣，我們會隨時動態調整管理。 |
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羅委員明才：所以主委，這樣聽起來比特幣是合法的，違犯法律的詐騙集團才是犯法，這些違法的人才是犯法。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：就是標的物本身是中性的，如果被拿來做不法的利用等等，就有可能涉犯違法的事情。 |
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羅委員明才：好的。很多委員都在討論，除了剛才您說的，美國已經合法，也公開發行ETF的項目，請問還有哪些地方允許虛擬貨幣上市買賣？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：香港也有類似的ETF。 |
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羅委員明才：還有哪一個國家？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我知道還有加拿大、澳洲，也有完全禁止的地方。 |
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羅委員明才：其實很多人在想，日本到底有沒有？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：日本沒有。 |
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羅委員明才：可是我們上次去考察的時候，我們看到東京附近的看板上，很多都寫歡迎比特幣交易。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：比特幣交易是一個方式，用ETF在公開市場買賣又是另外一回事，如果是ETF，是大部分的投資人有可能買得到。 |
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羅委員明才：是，所以很多情況沒有深入去了解，大家也不知道狀況。不過幾年前去東京考察，其實每個委員會都有考察啦！那時候的銀行局局長是邱局長，回來後升為副主委，當時還寫了一大篇報告，大家覺得非常有參考性。證券交易所也有特別蒐集資料，也做了很詳細的報告。特別在這裡告訴主委，我們證券交易所居然比本席想像的還厲害，和日本的東京證券交易所往來非常密切，是不是請臺灣證券交易所？林董事長，你好。 |
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林董事長修銘：委員好。 |
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羅委員明才：照理說，你今天應該要關心很多新股上市，今天有哪幾家順利掛牌上市？ |
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林董事長修銘：今天是來億。 |
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羅委員明才：有吧？ |
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林董事長修銘：有的。 |
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羅委員明才：聽說是臺商，是不是？ |
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林董事長修銘：對，KY。 |
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羅委員明才：今年的上市情況如何？掛牌數？ |
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林董事長修銘：今年的上市情況，現在掛牌的，都是去年申請通過的。 |
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羅委員明才：有沒有達標？ |
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林董事長修銘：有的。 |
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羅委員明才：臺灣證券交易所這幾年業績好得不得了，去年EPS是幾元？ |
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林董事長修銘：7.8元。 |
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羅委員明才：今年會不會和去年一樣？甚至是超過？ |
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林董事長修銘：預期會超過，以現在熱絡的情況。 |
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羅委員明才：你看，主委，如果打詐缺錢，臺灣證券交易所很有錢啦！據說現在帳面上現金應該超過100億元以上。 |
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林董事長修銘：是，超過。 |
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羅委員明才：有沒有200億元以上？ |
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林董事長修銘：有的。 |
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羅委員明才：大概是F4裡面最強的。我們希望強的時候更應該要多考量未來的變化，增強每一個人的體質，讓每一個都驍勇善戰。剛才會舉這個例子，是因為在彭主委未來的願景中，臺灣必須和國際接軌，外國人在做的，臺灣也必須有這個能力可以做。怎麼樣取代香港、新加坡，甚至是日本？請問，日本有沒有發行虛擬貨幣的相關ETF？ |
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林董事長修銘：沒有。 |
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羅委員明才：現在還沒有喔！ |
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林董事長修銘：現在還沒有。 |
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羅委員明才：那日本的比特幣是怎麼交易？ |
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林董事長修銘：應該都是現貨吧！ |
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羅委員明才：臺灣是7-ELEVEN也可以買得到，是不是？還是萊爾富？它的通路究竟在哪裡？ |
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林董事長修銘：我們交易所現在還沒有參與這個業務的規劃。 |
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羅委員明才：好，也多了解一下啦！ |
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林董事長修銘：好的，謝謝。 |
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羅委員明才：要做最好的準備，迎接任何挑戰，希望我們進退都有分寸、準備，謝謝。臺灣證券交易所最近因為碳權的事比較忙，我們改天再好好談這件事，因為迫在眉睫啦！碳權的問題一定會討論到。請問主委，臺灣現存的交易通路是用什麼樣的方式在做交易？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：現在臺灣也有交易所。剛才我們提到，現在VASP裡面，已經做洗防登記的業者有交易所，也有剛才說的ATM，也有實體的店面，還有託管的服務商，我們有很多種類型。剛才也說到，其實我們的交易所就可以交易。 |
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羅委員明才：交易所可以交易？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對。 |
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羅委員明才：請問我們的態度是否歡迎國外的企業來臺灣設立交易所？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：現在就是所有的外國公司一定要落地，要適用相同的標準。 |
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羅委員明才：所以原則是不排斥囉？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我們的法規是有這樣的設計。 |
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羅委員明才：如果全世界最大的業者也來臺灣設立據點，主委支不支持？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：這個我們就要看實際狀況，因為條件是一致的，我們會按照現在的原則審核。 |
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羅委員明才：有沒有負責人、最終收益人以及國籍的考量？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：這部分可不可以請現在的審核單位說明？ |
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羅委員明才：好，請張局長。 |
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張局長振山：現在是個案來送件的時候，我們就會看它的背景是誰…… |
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羅委員明才：如果是香港人，可不可以？ |
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張局長振山：我們沒有做國籍上的判斷，如果有需要的話，我們會請陸委會表示意見。 |
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羅委員明才：是。日本人也可以嗎？ |
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張局長振山：如果你是外國幣商的話，當然負責人可能是外國人，但是因為它在臺灣落地，我們就要審查它的…… |
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羅委員明才：因為大家現在一說到大陸就先怕三分，如果是大陸人士來申請，可不可以？ |
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張局長振山：也是一樣的概念啊！如果是大陸，可能就要和陸委會照會一聲，這家公司的負責人是大陸人士。例如一家公司來申請的話，我們就要審查，涉及到外單位的部分，我們就要請他們表示意見。 |
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羅委員明才：所以還是看情況啦！是不是？ |
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張局長振山：是的。 |
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羅委員明才：好，謝謝。最後再請教主委，在你的願景當中，因為你剛上任，過兩年以後，你希望看到臺灣的整個金融發展呈現什麼樣的面貌？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：謝謝委員。我想這個面貌，每個人都有想像，我希望臺灣的金融市場在持續穩定的基礎上，能夠有更大的發揮空間，就是落實安全與發展併進的金融市場。 |
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羅委員明才：如果開放和保守，你會選擇哪一個？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我覺得在很多安全方面，我們必須保守謹慎，但是對於未來新的機會以及發展，我們必須大膽的設想，最後還是要回到安全的基礎上。 |
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羅委員明才：本席記得過去想要積極推動金融監理沙盒，結果通過到現在，哪一家還在做？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：現在沙盒確實遇到瓶頸，但是我們會強化試辦的部分，未來也會推出新的辦法。 |
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羅委員明才：好。安全最重要啦！但開放也是大家期盼的，謝謝。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：是，謝謝委員指正。 |
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主席：好，謝謝羅召委的質詢。 |
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接著請謝衣鳯委員、謝衣鳯委員、謝衣鳯委員、謝衣鳯委員不在。 |
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接著請鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員不在。 |
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接著請黃秀芳委員質詢。 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、法務部、內政部警政署就「《洗錢防制法》修正草案
與《詐欺犯罪危害防制條例》之制定對於防制虛擬資產及交易業務事業（ VASP ）淪為詐騙工
具」、金融監督管理委員會就「虛擬資產專法制定進程」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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他以為你去熊本了謝謝昭偉各位委員出列席、官員大家好其實昭偉很想去日本但是因為在會期當中我們要去看事辦事那我們等會議結束以後 |
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主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席主席 |
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其實今天講到虛擬貨幣等等的交易情況請問在美國方面有沒有發行虛擬貨幣的ETF的交易項目有,美國確實現在已經開始在做比特幣的ETF交易所以比特幣到底在台灣是一個合法的商品 |
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比特幣在台灣交易是合法還是非法? |
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是合法還是非法現在是合法只要滿足我們洗錢防制的規定所以現在是合法那請問未來會不會是非法這個的話我們目前沒辦法做這個預期不過我們也是看國際上的情況今天是合法那請問明年是不是合法 |
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其實這個不管商品工具它本身中性它如果說今天如果說它有產生什麼問題或怎麼樣那我們會隨時動態的來做這樣的調整所以主委這樣聽起來的話就是比特幣它是合法的那如果非法的是詐騙集團是犯法的才是犯法 |
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違法的人才是犯法嗎?就是標的物本身它本身是中性但是它如果說今天拿來做不法的利用或不法的這個就有可能是涉犯違法的事情好的 很多的委員在討論剛剛主任您講說美國已經合法也公開發行ETF的這個項目那請問還有其他什麼地方是允許 |
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虛擬貨幣是可以上市、買賣的還有哪一家?還有哪一個國家?我知道可能還有加拿大、澳洲 |
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也有完全禁止的其實有很多人在想說那日本到底有沒有日本沒有日本沒有可是在我們上次考察的時候我們看到整個東京附近的看板都有很多歡迎比特幣交易 |
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比特幣交易是一個用ETF在公開市場上買賣又是另外一回事這是因為ETF我們是大部分的投資人有可能會買得到是 所以很多的情況 |
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沒有深入去了解 大家也不知道不過在幾年前的考察當中其實考察每個委員會都有那在幾年前的東京的考察我發現銀行局的局長那時候是莊局長是莊局長 對不對上次是邱局長的時候後來回來升為副主委 |
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回來寫了一大篇的報告大家覺得非常有參考性那這個政經教育所也是特別專門收集然後也做了很詳細的報告特別 |
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在這裡跟主委講我們證券交易所居然比我想像的還厲害跟日本的東京證券交易所往來非常的密切不然的話我們請是不是請臺灣證券交易所林董事長你好委員好你今天照理說應該是要關心很多的新股的上市 |
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譬如說今天來講,今天有哪幾家是上市順利掛牌的?今天,萊義有沒有?萊義有吧?有有有對,而且聽說是台商是不是?對對對,KY那今年的上市情況如何?掛牌數 |
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今年的上市情況都是去年的現在掛牌的都是去年申請的啦有沒有達標阿有有有有達標齁我們看臺灣政經交易所這幾年齁 |
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好的不得了,去年EPS是幾塊?7.8今年會不會跟去年一樣?或是甚至會超過?會超過,預期會超過以現在的熱絡情況那你看,諸位,如果打仗缺錢,台灣政經教育所很有錢 |
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據說現在帳面上的現金應該有超過一百億以上吧是 超過有沒有兩百億以上有大概是F4裡面最強的我們雖然說強 |
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強的時候更應該要多多考量未來的變化增加每一個人的體質每一個都是驍勇、善戰剛剛舉這個例子台灣如果在我們彭主委他的未來的一個願景台灣是必須要跟國際接軌 |
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外國人做的我們台灣也必須要有這個能力可以做啊怎麼樣來取代香港怎麼樣來取代新加坡甚至日本請問日本有沒有發行虛擬貨幣相關的ETF沒有沒有現在還沒有現在還沒有那日本的比特幣他們是怎麼交易的 |
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臺灣是在抄7-11也可以買得到嗎?是不是?還是萊爾富?他的通路究竟是在哪裡? |
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因為我們交易所現在還沒有參與這個業務的規劃也多了解一下啦因為做最好的準備迎接任何的挑戰希望進退我們都有一個分寸有一個準備好 謝謝那請問彭主委好了 謝謝 |
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因為臺灣政經教育所最近探權的事也比較忙我們改天再好好來談這個事因為這個迫在眉睫探權的問題一定會討論到 |
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主委現在台灣現存的交易通路是用什麼樣的方式在做交易現在台灣也有交易所剛剛我們提到我們現在VASP它裡面的這些的我們做洗房登記的業者有交易所也有剛剛講的時候比如說ATM也有實體的店面還有像我們的托管的服務商這些都是我們很多種類型剛剛講我們的交易所其實上就可以在上面做交易 |
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請問我們的態度歡不歡迎國外的企業來台灣設立交易所我們現在的話就是所有的外國一定要落地要適用我們相同的標準 |
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所以原則是不排斥囉?對,我們法規是有這樣的一個設計那如果全世界最大的也來台灣設立據點,各位支不支持?這個我們就來看,因為那個條件我們是一致的,我們就會進行來按照我們的現在原則來審核有沒有負責任他的最終收益人以及國籍的考量? |
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這部分的話我們可不可以請我們現在那個審核的單位可不可以來做個說明一下謝謝報告我們現在因為個案來送進的時候我們就會看他的背景是誰如果是香港人可不可以我想因為沒有國籍上的判斷那如果有需要的話我們會請陸委會來表示意見是那如果像日本人也可以嗎 |
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因為如果你是外國的避傷的話當然他可能是外國人但是他因為要台灣落地的時候我們就要審查他的那因為現在大家覺得大陸有時候一講到大陸就是先怕三分如果是大陸人士來申請可不可以 |
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主委就是在你的願景當中 |
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因為你剛剛來那過兩年以後你希望看到台灣的整個金融發展會呈現怎麼樣的面貌謝委員我想這個面貌每個人都有想像我希望就是說我們台灣金融市場在持續穩定的基礎上面能夠有更大的發揮的空間就是說我們落實我們安全與這個發展並進的金融市場 |
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如果開放跟保守你會選擇哪一個我覺得在很多安全上面我們必須保守謹慎但是對於未來新的機會以及發展我們必須要大膽的設想但是還是要回到一個安全的基礎上我記得過去那個沙盒的部分 |
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經濟的要推動結果沙盒通過到現在剩下哪一家還在做的現在沙盒確實遇到瓶頸但是我們現在會強化在我們的事辦的部分我們未來會推出新的辦法希望這個安全重要啦但是開放是大家所期盼的是 謝謝 |