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153447 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153447 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-23-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
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11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-03T09:51:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-03T09:58:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/2dd358c888e2c707ae8b98a4419475f459c493b59145da8feb068d4dbfff0b0c59d8f2b9dd4f3d665ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:51:29 - 09:58:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部、國家通訊傳播委員會、法務部、個人資料保護委員會籌備處及中華電信股份有限公司就「國家機器以手機定位、分析個資特性等方式侵犯人民權益」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【6月3日及6日二天一次會】） |
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林委員俊憲：（9時51分）謝謝主席，本席邀請NCC陳主委、數發部黃部長…… |
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主席：陳主委。 |
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林委員俊憲：法務部黃次長。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：委員好。 |
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林委員俊憲：謝謝陳主委，我看你的報告裡面寫到，前幾天，就是5月30日你有請三大行動業者到會瞭解，我就重複一下你那個報告裡面寫的，上面寫這三大行動通信業者，就是中華電信、台哥大、遠傳這3家，對不對？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：他們3家業者到會都說明，在青鳥行動的那段期間，沒有任何私人企業、政府機關或特定黨籍人士向該等公司，也就是跟他們3家公司接洽或請求有關青鳥行動相關人流資訊。那3家公司也表示從來沒有提供任何相關資料或資訊給予其他單位或人士，是不是這樣？這是你寫的報告。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是，我們的報告第2頁寫得很清楚。 |
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林委員俊憲：是寫他們3間公司都說沒有嘛！對不對？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：過去三大電信公司對於所謂人流上面用手機訊號去做的那種數據，他們有做商業販售嗎？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：跟委員報告，我們這裡討論的是，個資跟數據這兩個概念不太一樣，個資去識別化以後、不可逆以後它就成為一個數據…… |
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林委員俊憲：就是有嘛？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：那數據是可以做商業化使用。 |
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林委員俊憲：因為有些公關公司、有些數據公司會去買。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：但重點是你要合法，就是你要去識別化。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：你這些資料裡面，不可以讓他回溯去查到每一個人。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：只要這樣的話，就是合法。過去誰會買這些資料？除了我剛剛講的數據公司、一些行銷公司，地方政府也會買。 |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是，沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：過去各政黨都買過，你就把三大公司的調出來，你看看民進黨、國民黨有買過嗎…… |
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陳主任委員耀祥：交通方面…… |
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林委員俊憲：像民眾黨有沒有買過？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：對，是。 |
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林委員俊憲：以前這個是合法可以買，但是你必須要去識別化、要合法，必須要遵守這樣的規範嘛！ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是，沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：是不是這樣？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：重點是青鳥行動期間，這3家電信公司都說沒有販售……沒有人去買，而他們也沒有提供資料，是不是這樣子？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：這3家電信公司會不會說謊？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：這個說謊應該有法律責任。 |
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林委員俊憲：台哥大幕後的老闆是蔡明忠耶！深藍的大金主！他怎麼會說謊？ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：這有法律責任的問題。 |
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林委員俊憲：有法律責任的問題嘛！ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：對。 |
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林委員俊憲：遠傳電信怎麼會說謊？中華電信在這裡，你會說謊嗎？都沒有人跟你們買，你們都沒有提供嗎？那有沒有說謊，誰查得到？法務部查得到、檢察官查得到啦！ |
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陳主任委員耀祥：是。 |
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林委員俊憲：因為這個案件有人去告了，已經是「他字案」了，就是偵辦。那我也要求司法單位、檢察官這邊要去查明，是不是在那段時間，青鳥行動那幾天沒有任何的資料流出去？沒有人去買，就算合法買的都沒有，對不對？他現在是說連合法購買的都沒有，這3家電信公司會不會非法提供，遠傳、台哥大、中華電信，這個你們要去查，對不對？查不查得到？ |
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黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，那個個案，5月29日之後臺北地檢署已經開始偵…… |
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林委員俊憲：已經在查了。 |
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黃次長謀信：對。 |
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林委員俊憲：技術面查不查得到？ |
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黃次長謀信：檢察官當然會窮盡所有調查之能事，盡力地發現事實的真相。 |
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林委員俊憲：我們絕對反對政府監控人民，維護人權是每一個政黨都要做的事情，誰都可能當執政黨，誰都可能在野，任何人都有可能輪流執政、輪流在野，臺灣是民主國家，這是我們最基本的一個理念、價值，所以必須要維護人權、保障人民，這是我們大家要做的，絕不允許有這種事情，所以這個事情你們當然要查清楚。 |
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如果3家電信公司都沒有資料流出去，可不可能會產生所謂監控的問題？他訊號沒提供出去你是要監控什麼？就不會有這個問題了嘛！到底有沒有違法，或者這個事情根本是不存在的，我們希望司法單位要加緊腳步偵辦，好不好？ |
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黃次長謀信：好，沒問題。 |
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林委員俊憲：接下來我請教數發部黃部長。法務部次長請回座。 |
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黃部長彥男：委員好。 |
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林委員俊憲：昨天的演說可以說非常受到全世界注目，你有沒有跟輝達的黃仁勳見過面？ |
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黃部長彥男：沒有見面，就在台下有聽他演講。 |
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林委員俊憲：還沒有跟他見面。所以他這次到臺灣來並沒有跟官方見過面？ |
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黃部長彥男：至少還沒跟我見過面。 |
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林委員俊憲：你等於是臺灣AI的主管，所以…… |
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黃部長彥男：對。應該說NVIDIA跟我開過幾次會，但那是在臺灣的代表，還沒跟黃…… |
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林委員俊憲：部長有提過，就國家政策，政府要設立AI生態園區，是不是這樣？ |
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黃部長彥男：這是我們和國發會、國科會在努力的目標。 |
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林委員俊憲：你有提到，第一個，當然要有土地，對不對？土地一定要有。第二個，你說要交通便利嘛！ |
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黃部長彥男：對。 |
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林委員俊憲：部長，AI生態園區最適合設立的地方就是在臺南高鐵特區，在臺南沙崙。 |
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黃部長彥男：我對沙崙還蠻熟的，因為我個人有辦公室在那裡。 |
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林委員俊憲：你為什麼會熟，因為臺灣很多最重要的高等研究機構都設在這個地方，沙崙周邊相關互相支援的部分已經非常完整了，所以國家如果未來要設立AI生態園區，我們臺南高鐵特區的沙崙是最適合的。部長，你的看法呢？ |
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黃部長彥男：這個我還要再去跟國發及國科會開會，不過我個人對沙崙是還蠻熟悉的，我覺得那個生態…… |
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林委員俊憲：應該是符合你所提出的幾項條件。 |
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黃部長彥男：沒錯…… |
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林委員俊憲：我注意到你有提到一點，交通要便利，最好高鐵站出來就到了。 |
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黃部長彥男：對。 |
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林委員俊憲：這裡就是啦！ |
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黃部長彥男：對，我們…… |
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林委員俊憲：是不是應該優先列入考量？ |
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黃部長彥男：有在考量，對，沒錯。 |
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林委員俊憲：有在考量嘛！我們私底下再談。 |
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黃部長彥男：好。 |
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林委員俊憲：這是最適合的，全臺灣沒有比這裡更適合的啦！南部要找一個地方，沒有比這個地方更好的啦！ |
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黃部長彥男：再跟委員請教。 |
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林委員俊憲：AI生態園區一定要考慮設在我們臺南高鐵的沙崙，好不好？ |
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黃部長彥男：好…… |
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林委員俊憲：謝謝部長。 |
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黃部長彥男：謝謝委員。 |
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主席（陳委員雪生）：謝林俊憲市長，這麼早就在布局了，是不是？ |
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林委員俊憲：……臺南布局一輩子。 |
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主席：AI園區設在沙崙，政見哪！好，謝謝。 |
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下一位請蔡其昌前副院長。 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期交通委員會第15次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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邀請數位發展部、國家通訊傳播委員會、法務部、個人資料保護委員會籌備處及中華電信股份有
限公司就「國家機器以手機定位、分析個資特性等方式侵犯人民權益」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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好 謝謝主席本席邀請我們NCC陳主委我們速發部黃部長好陳主委黃部 黃 部長喂哈好 謝謝 謝謝陳主委齁主委我看你的那個報告裡面吶你有寫到2020 前幾天吶5月30號你有請三大行動業者大會了解對 |
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我就重複一下你寫的那個報告裡面他說這三大行動通信業者就是中華電信嘛、台哥大、遠傳嘛這三家對不對?他們三家的業者到會都說明 |
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在侵了行動的那段期間沒有任何私人企業、政府機關或特定黨籍人士向該等公司跟他們三家公司接洽或請求有關侵了行動相關人流資訊 |
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那過去啦他們三大電信公司對於這種所謂人流上用手機訊號 |
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去做的那種數據啦他們有在做商業販售嗎?跟委員報告一下我們這裡討論說個資跟數據這兩個概念是不太一樣個資去識別化以後不可逆以後它就成為一個數據那數據是可以做商業販售有些公關公司有些數據公司他們會去買啦但是重點是你要合法啦那合法就是你要去識別化啦 |
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你這些資料裡面不可以讓它回溯去查到每一個人啦沒錯只要這樣的話它就是合法那過去誰會去買這些資料除了我剛講的數據公司啦一些行銷公司啦地方政府也會買啦是沒錯過去的各個政黨都買過啦你就把他們的商量公司調出來 |
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你看民進黨國民黨有買過嗎?民眾黨有沒有買過?以前買這個是合法可以買但是啊你必須要去識別化要合法這樣的必須要遵守這樣的一個規範是是不是這樣?是但重點是清了行動期間這三家電信公司都說沒有販送沒有人去買那他們也沒有提供資料是不是這樣子?沒錯這三家電信公司會不會說謊? |
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我想這個是說法路應該有法律責任這有法律責任這有法律責任的問題有法律責任的問題嘛遠傳電信該有公平責任中華電信在這裡你該有公平責任都沒有人跟你買你都沒有提供那有沒有說謊誰查得到法務部查得到啦檢察官查得到啦因為這個案子有人去搞了啦它已經是他治案了他治案就是偵辦 |
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那我也要求我們司法單位檢察官這邊要去查明是不是在那段時間青島行動那幾天沒有領好的資料流出來沒有人去買啦不管合法就算合法買的都沒有對不對他現在是說連合法購買的都沒有那我這三家資訊公司會不會非法提供 |
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人權維護是每一個政黨都要做的事情誰都可能當執政黨誰都可能在野 |
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兩人都有可能輪流執政、輪流在野這是我們台灣民主國家這是我們一個最基本的一個理念、一個價值所以必須要維護法、人權、保障人民這是我們大家要做的絕不允許有這種事情所以這個事情你們當然要查清楚那如果三家電信公司都沒有資料流出去那可不可能會產生所謂監控的問題你手機身上沒有貼水是要監控什麼 |
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委員會主席 |
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您有沒有跟昨天可以說演說非常受到全世界注目的 |
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那部長有提過嘛 |
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國家政策啦 政府要設立AI生態園區是不是這樣子這是我們跟國發會還有國客會在努力的目標我認為啊 你有提到啦 第一個當然要土地嘛 |
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對不對土地一定要有嘛第二個你說交通便利嘛部長AI生態園區啊最適合設立的就在台南高鐵特區啦就在台南沙崙我對沙崙還蠻熟的因為我個人有辦公室在那裡所以因為對你為什麼會熟因為我們台灣很多最重要的高等研究機構都設在這個地方所以沙崙周邊相關互相支援的 |
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已經非常的完整了 |
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所以國家如果未來要設立AI生態園區我們台南高鐵特區的沙輪是最適合的部長你的看法這個我還在先跟國會跟國科會開會不過我個人是對沙輪還蠻熟悉的我覺得那個生態應該是符合你所提出的幾項條件因為我注意到你有提到一點嘛交通要便利最好高鐵出來就到了這裡就是啦 |
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是不是應該優先列入考量?有在考量的,沒錯。有在考量喔?我們私底下再談啦。OK,好。這個最適合的啦。我們待會兒沒必要再寫下去啦。你南部要找一個沒有比這個地方更好的啦。再跟委員請教。好。那個AI生態運區一定要考慮設在我們台南,台南那個高鐵的沙崙啦,好不好?好,謝謝部長。謝謝,謝謝委員。 |