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153382 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/153382 |
| 日期 |
2024-05-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-35-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-05-30T11:26:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-05-30T11:36:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
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https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bbbc431469b8aebaf9638ed0992a6c7e8c05f44c04a464db446d6a815e9137443945d43fff3066385ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:32 - 11:36:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-05-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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黃委員國昌：（11時26分）謝謝主席，部長好。本席想請教一下部長，您接任部長的時候，和前一任部長吳釗燮有辦交接嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：有的。 |
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黃委員國昌：因為本席覺得很奇怪，本席問公共工程委員會主委陳金德的時候，他說他和前一任主委完全沒有交接，所以昨天問他問題時，讓本席很驚訝啦！就是閣員彼此之間沒有交接，本席昨天聽了真的嚇一大跳，但這件事情沒有發生在外交部，非常好。 |
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林部長佳龍：是的。 |
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黃委員國昌：第二個，部長，您剛才提到，重點不是要不要增加邦交國，你有提到一個概念，說我們要榮邦，就是讓我們的邦交國能夠過的更好、更興盛，這是你剛才說的嘛！ |
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林部長佳龍：對，繁榮。 |
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黃委員國昌：好。你知不知道我們的政府開發援助，每一年大概花多少錢？ |
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林部長佳龍：當然，我們的GNI還沒有符合國際的標準。 |
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黃委員國昌：對，大概多少錢？ |
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林部長佳龍：就是0.06%。 |
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黃委員國昌：所以大概多少錢？ |
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林部長佳龍：4.38億元。 |
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黃委員國昌：單位是什麼？ |
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林部長佳龍：美元。 |
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黃委員國昌：對嘛！這樣就是上百億元臺幣。這上百億臺幣當中，目前我們的邦交國，拉美、加勒比海總共有幾個國家？ |
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林部長佳龍：拉美、加勒比海大概7個國家。 |
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黃委員國昌：好，7個國家。以100億元來算好了，這7個國家大概占這100億元的百分之幾？ |
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林部長佳龍：不是這樣算的，因為人口和…… |
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黃委員國昌：對啦！以100億元來算，大概有多少是給這7個國家？是50億元、70億元、60億元？您知道嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我可能還要再查一下詳細的數字，但是個別國家，我大概知道。 |
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黃委員國昌：沒有關係，因為你剛就任部長，本席一定會給你時間和機會啦！今天不是來考您的，但本席要確保我們的價值是一樣的，關心的議題也很重要，因為今天看到外交部的業務報告時，老實說本席有點驚訝，因為我們現在僅存的12個邦交國，有7個在拉美和加勒比海，但是您知道你們的業務報告中，提到這些國家的部分只有幾句話嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們有八點，第一點就是提要固邦到榮邦。 |
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黃委員國昌：對啊！所以…… |
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林部長佳龍：也向委員說明一下，因為所謂的國際援助不是只限於邦交國，我們有很多國際合作項目在進行中。 |
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黃委員國昌：沒有關係。本席是支持公開透明，哪些是邦交國？哪些是非邦交國？援助多少錢、做什麼事情？都要清清楚楚的向國人報告。為什麼本席要從這個角度切入？請部長看一下，本席會花一點點時間帶你進入狀況。OCCRP是一個非常有名的國際反貪腐組織，本席2020年離開立法院以後，成立一個公益揭弊暨吹哨者保護協會，開始和國際反貪腐組織合作。 |
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那個時候我們開始調查，其中一個project就是中美洲銀行CABEI。我們發現CABEI內部非常腐敗，把其他國家的善意，給他們的錢、提供的援助，拿去資助拉丁美洲那邊的獨裁政權，甚至暗殺環保人士，侵犯人權、賄賂、貪污，錢全部都是從這個地方來。這件事情為什麼值得關注？我們來看一下盟友，我們民主同盟最重要的朋友──美國。 |
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2023年，就是去年2月的時候，CSIS對CABEI提出嚴厲的批判，質疑他們竟然拿錢去打壓異議人士、侵害人權，那個時候對臺灣也提出一些呼籲，呼籲臺灣不要傻傻的，錢一直給CABEI，但它用到哪裡？是不是拿去侵害人權、資助獨裁政府？他們希望臺灣要建立一個非常清楚的監理機制。部長，您看一下，這是CABEI的創始會員國，區域內的創始會員國、區域外的會員國，這裡面有6個國家在蔡政府時期斷交了，當然，中國扮演很重要的因素。 |
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臺灣一方面援助他們，但是在援助的同時，他們的人權狀況卻非常差，拿那些錢去打壓他們自己國內的異議人士，連美國都看不下去，所以CSIS才會對臺灣提出這樣的建議嘛！我們和OCCRP一起合作的調查報告，去年中英文版同時提出以後，臺灣上一屆的立法院也開始關注這件事情，因為我們真的給CABEI太多錢了，我們現在是CABEI單一會員國持股最高的，我們是第一大股東喔！累積到現在已經給他們2億7,600萬美元了。 |
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因此，上一屆的國會，包括陳椒華委員、邱臣遠委員都要求，給CABEI的錢用到哪裡？花到哪裡？都要公開透明，吳釗燮部長、李淳次長都說這個要求非常合理，我們一定要做，而且我們要發揮在CABEI的影響力，不可以讓CABEI再拿錢去資助獨裁政體、打壓人權。這個價值非常重要，特別是臺灣現在需要民主同盟，要和相同價值的國家做朋友。 |
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本席在部長卸任前最後一次質詢時請教部長，去年答應要公開透明，援助的計畫要在網站上公開，結果本席現在拿到的回應是在研議具體作法，請問為什麼研議這麼久？這件事情部長有和您交接嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們的同仁有向我做過簡報，這個部分外交部有多次向CABEI反映，它近日也有回復，對於增設臺灣和CABEI夥伴關係信託基金專業網站的草案，希望近期也能夠上網。 |
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黃委員國昌：CABEI有沒有說需要多久？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們會加速催促他們。 |
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黃委員國昌：部長，你覺得他們應該多久之內做出來？ |
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林部長佳龍：他們只是說對這個草案…… |
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黃委員國昌：對嘛！本席現在要向部長報告的事情是…… |
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林部長佳龍：他們是說因為雙方要檢視裡面的數字，可能要再確認一下，既然…… |
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黃委員國昌：這個數字會有什麼問題？我們給CABEI多少錢？他們收到多少錢？拿給多少國家？這個數字還要double check喔？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們一起來催促啦！能夠儘快讓它…… |
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黃委員國昌：不是，本席催促很久了。去年，上一屆的國會就有立委提出要求。 |
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林部長佳龍：是的。 |
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黃委員國昌：上一屆的部長也有承諾，但是到今年，現在已經5月底，CABEI是不是把臺灣當作「細漢」？我們是它第一大持股會員國，在臺灣的資本市場，CABEI募到的資金是全球最高的，對他們的援助金額也是最高的，但它怎麼對我們？來，本席給部長看一下，這是外交部同仁給本席的，所謂的臺灣專區連結。 |
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本席一連結上去，這個網站有設和沒設一樣，上面的項目全部都是空白。但是不對啊！我們明明給了這麼多錢，為什麼項目會是空白？本席再給部長看一下，這是CABEI和南韓，人家就做起來啦！南韓比我們晚加入CABEI，出的錢比我們少，援助的金額比我們少，但是CABEI和南韓做的起來，和臺灣卻做不起來。部長，你覺得這樣對嗎？ |
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林部長佳龍：我們會努力儘快做到，因為它已經答應，這個草案也有了，只是雙方要再確認一下。 |
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黃委員國昌：近期之內啦！外交部同仁和CABEI那邊也有聯繫，因為我們也有派理事或董事常駐在CABEI嘛！這個部分部長應該也有掌握。 |
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林部長佳龍：對。 |
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黃委員國昌：我們有理事或董事常駐在CABEI，要求他們做這件事情，而且臺灣作為第一大持股會員國，援助的金額最高，有這麼困難嗎？本席希望CABEI不是把臺灣當提款機，而是認為我們是重要的會員國。如果是重要的會員國，那本席的問題就來了，為什麼南韓可以，臺灣的部分卻在那邊推拖拉？這很重要。 |
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林部長佳龍：是的。 |
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黃委員國昌：是不是請部長拜託同仁，和CABEI最後聯繫的結果，以及他們回復的內容，會後是不是可以說明？ |
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林部長佳龍：好的。 |
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黃委員國昌：需要多久？兩個禮拜之內，可以嗎？現在這個時代，應該要很快啦！CABEI做為…… |
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林部長佳龍：就照委員說的，我們兩個禮拜內說明。 |
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黃委員國昌：兩個禮拜之內？ |
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林部長佳龍：是的。 |
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黃委員國昌：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：好，謝謝。 |
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接下來請洪申翰委員上台質詢。 |
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謝謝主席 部長好我想請教一下部長您接任部長的時候跟前一任的部長吳釗燮有辦交接嗎 |
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昨天很奇怪我在問公共工程委員會主委陳金德的時候他說他跟前一任主委完全沒有交接所以導致我昨天問他的問題讓我很驚訝就是格言彼此之間沒有交接我昨天真的聽了嚇一大跳但這件事情沒有發生在外交部非常的好第二個部長 |
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您剛剛提到了說我們不僅重點不是說要不要增加邦交國而你提到一個概念說我們要榮邦就是讓我們的邦交國能夠過得更好更興盛這是你剛剛所講的嘛對 繁榮好 那你知不知道我們大概每一年我們的政府開發援助大概每一年花多少錢 |
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當然我們GNI的數字是還沒有符合國際的標準大概多少錢?就是0.06%所以大概多少錢?4.38億啊4.38億單位是什麼?美元對嘛 那大概就上百億的台幣嘛在這個上百億的台幣當中在我們目前的邦交國在拉美加勒比海 |
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總共有幾個國家?拉美加加勒比海大概7個國家7個國家齁這我就以100億來算好了這7個國家大概佔這100億的百分之多少?那不是這樣算因為人口跟那個對啦我說你這100億嘛大概有多少給這7個國家是50億70億60億你知道嗎?呃我們呃 |
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林佳龍報告業務概況 |
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在拉美跟加勒比海但是您知道您的業務報告提到這些國家有幾句話嗎? |
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我們八點第一點就是提要顧邦到榮邦啊我跟委員也說明一下因為所謂國際援助不是只限於邦交國我們國際合作很多項目都在進行中沒有關係啊我是支持公開透明有哪些到邦交國有哪些非邦交國多少錢做什麼事情清清楚楚的向國人報告為什麼 |
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我要從這個角度去切入來請部長看一下我會花一點點時間帶你進入狀況 |
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OCCRP是一個非常有名的國際反貪腐組織我2020年離開立法院了以後我成立了一個公益階級缺道者保護者協會開始跟這個國際反貪腐組織合作那那個時候我們開始調查的其中的一個project是中美洲銀行卡貝發現卡貝內部非常的腐敗把其他國家的善意 |
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給他們的錢提供了援助去資助拉丁美洲那邊的獨裁政權甚至暗殺環保人士侵犯人權賄賂貪污錢全部都是從這個地方來的那這件事情為什麼值得關注啊因為來我們來看一下我們的盟友我們民主同盟最重要的朋友美國 |
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2023年去年2月的時候CSIS對於卡貝提出嚴厲的批判竟然拿錢去打壓異議人士侵害人權那個時候對台灣也提出了一些呼籲呼籲說台灣不要傻傻的錢一直給卡貝用到哪裡去是不是拿去侵害人權是不是資助獨裁政府 |
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他們希望台灣要建立一個非常清楚的監理機制來部長您看一下卡貝的創始會員國區域內的創始會員國區域外的會員國裡面有6個國家在蔡政府實習的時候斷交了那當然這中國扮演很重要的因素扮演很重要的因素那只不過說 |
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我們跟OCCPR |
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所一起合作的調查報告在去年綜藝文版同時出來了以後台灣的立法院上一屆立法院也開始在關注啊這一件事情因為我們給卡貝真的太多錢了我們現在是卡貝喔單一會員國持股最高的我們是第一大股東喔美積現在已經給他兩億七千六百萬美元了好 |
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因此上一屆的國會包括陳佳華委員包括邱承遠委員都要求 |
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給卡貝的錢去哪裡花到哪裡要公開透明吳釗燮部長李淳市長都說這個要求非常的合理我們一定要來做而且我們要發揮我們在卡貝裡面的影響力不可以讓卡貝再拿錢去資助獨裁政體打壓人權這個價值非常重要特別台灣現在又希望用民主同盟跟相同價值的國家做朋友 |
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那我在部長卸任前最後一次質詢我請教部長說那去年答應的公開透明說原著的計畫要在網站上面去公開然後結果我現在拿到的回應是說研議具體作法那請問為什麼研議這麼久這個事情部長有跟您交接嗎 |
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部長你覺得他們應該多久之內做出來? |
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他們只是說對這個草對吧我現在要跟部長報告的事情是因為雙胞胎檢視裡面的數字可能要再確認一下應該不是啊這個數字會有什麼問題我們給卡貝多少錢收到多少錢拿去給多少國家這個數字還要double check喔我們一起來催促啦能夠盡快讓他不是啊我催促很久啦去年上一屆國會就有立委提出要求了嘛上一屆的部長也承諾了嘛到今年喔 |
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現在已經五月底了嘛然後卡貝是什麼?把台灣當作西韓欸我們是他第一大持股會員國在台灣資本市場卡貝木的資金是全球最高欸援助的金額給他也是最高但他怎麼對我們的來我給部長看一下我就上你們外交部的同仁給我所謂那個台灣專區的連結我一連結上去 |
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有跟沒有一樣上面的項目全部都空白那不對啊我們明明給了這麼多錢阿為什麼項目會是空白我再給部長看一下卡貝跟南韓人家就做起來啦南韓比我們加入卡貝晚欸出的錢比我們少欸原住的金額比我們少欸卡貝跟南韓做得起來跟台灣做不起來部長你覺得這樣對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
527.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
556.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
我們來努力盡快因為他已經答應了那這個草案也有雙方再確認一下那近期之內啦我們外交部的同仁跟卡貝那邊因為事實上我們自己也有派理事或董事常駐在卡貝嘛這個我想部長你應該有掌握嘛對我們都有理事或董事常駐在卡貝的要求他們做這件事情台灣作為第一大持股匯能國原住的金額最高有這麼困難嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
558.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
586.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
我希望卡貝不是把台灣當提款機只認為我們是裡面重要的會員國如果是重要的會員國那我的問題就來了南韓為什麼可以台灣就在這邊推脫拉這很重要是不是請部長拜託同仁跟卡貝最後聯繫的結果他們回覆的內容是不是會後可以說明需要多久 |
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587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
589.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
兩個禮拜之內,可以嗎?現在這個時代很快啦,卡布作為一項兩個禮拜之內,好謝謝 |