| IVOD_ID |
151563 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151563 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
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社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-22T11:51:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-22T11:56:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5754819b6179c33651f5e011640bc070cff82116bdf94ca8dcb4691eb09bf4e234bed05c71fdd9325ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:51:02 - 11:56:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、交通部、經濟部、內政部警政署就「噪音管制與加速推動排氣管噪音認證」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月22日、24日及25日三天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（11時51分）主席、各位委員，有請部長。 |
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主席：請薛部長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：還有我們的事務官。 |
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薛部長富盛：鄭委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：噪音管制法，環境部是主管機關嘛！ |
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薛部長富盛：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：基本上過去我都在質詢國防部，但是沒有結果。我們先看志航機場，志航機場本來是在我們原住民族的部落，在志航機場裡面，因為要開闢志航機場，所以把部落分成三塊，分別是富岡部落、加路蘭部落及石山部落，都在現在的志航機場旁邊，我們的鄉親每天要承受軍方噪音的侵害。民國89年雖然有這個補助，但是噪音補助要等30年才會輪到這個部落，是這樣的一個情況。如果我們看這個，噪音補助大概都是做什麼呢？這個很難防制啦！所以就只有冷氣機，冷氣機要等30年，但是冷氣機按照主計總處的分類，時間只有9年而已。這個部分經過我多次的質詢，國防部有增加預算，有改善了一些，但是還是很難。環境部是噪音管制法的主管機關，所以我要特別請環境部，尤其是我們的事務官要去協調國防部。 |
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為了噪音管制法，我也曾經提出了修正的條文，也做了修正，應該要採取適當之防制及補償措施，像噪音管制法第十七條，97年12月3號所公布的只有防制措施，事實上難以防制，對不對？部長…… |
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薛部長富盛：是，所以後來有補償措施。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：因為軍方的飛機、空軍難以防制，所以要訂定補償措施，因此就加了一個補償措施。但是從110年1月20號公布施行到現在，還是因為沒有錢、錢不夠，所以應該怎麼去解決這個問題？然後法律修了，但是地方主管機關認為還是用防制措施，問題是沒有辦法防制，然後補助的經費也不夠，還是要輪，所以這個部分應該怎麼去解決？我的具體建議，環境部要去協調國防部還有地方主管機關，就是縣市政府，應該要怎麼樣呢？這個補助最起碼也要受到補償，所以這個補償應該要優先就距離志航機場最近的部分，其實很遠的不需要，它真的很遠，所以這個第一個要去檢討。 |
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薛部長富盛：這個是合理的，檢討。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：第二個，就是你們每年都應該補償，而不是很多年之後才要補償，所以這個部分是要請環境部去協調地方政府，因為這個部分確實是一個…… |
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薛部長富盛：好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：本來是原住民自己的部落，他們已經同意當志航機場了，結果他們還要每天遭受到這個噪音，卻又沒有辦法補償，可以嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：可以，我們來跟國防部討論一下補償措施的部分。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：請業務單位積極地去協調，然後要請業務單位一個月內提供資料，就是我們有很多的機場，所有的機場，不管是軍用的、軍用跟民航一起共用的，或是單獨民航的，這些相關的補償或是補助的情形，可以提供這樣的書面資料嗎？ |
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薛部長富盛：一個月？ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：一個月。 |
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薛部長富盛：會不會稍微……因為這個以前，國防部在…… |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：就請各機關提供啊！請他們提供目前補助的情形。 |
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薛部長富盛：各單位補助的情形，是不是？ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們會後再…… |
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薛部長富盛：好啊！我們來彙整一下。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們會後溝通好了。 |
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薛部長富盛：好，OK，謝謝鄭委員。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員。 |
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接下來請牛煦庭委員發言。 |
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邀請環境部部長、交通部、經濟部、內政部警政署就「噪音管制與加速推動排氣管噪音認證」進
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委員發言主席、國務委員、請部長還有我們的事務官這個噪音管制法是環境部是主管機關嗎?是 |
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我基本上過去我都在執行國防部但是沒有結果我們先看這個自航機場自航機場本來是我們原住民族的部落在這個自航機場裡面因為要開闢這個自航機場所以把我們的部落分成三塊一個是富岡部落、嘉陸蘭部落然後十三部落都在這個現在的自航機場的旁邊 |
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我們的自航機那個鄉親每天要承受這個噪音軍的軍方的噪音的一個侵害自航機場但是我們要從民國89年雖然有這個補助但是呢噪音補助要等30年才會輪到這個部落是這樣一個情況雖然我經過如果我們看這個噪音補助當然都是做什麼呢 |
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國安部委員 |
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噪音管制法的主管機關所以我要特別請環境部尤其是我們的事務官要去協調國防部為了噪音管制法我也曾經提出了修正的條文也做了修正應該要採取適當之防治及補償措施 |
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像這個噪音管制法第17條97年12月3日的時候公布的只有防制措施事實上難以防制 |
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然後呢﹖ |
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法律修了但是地方主管機關認為還是用防治措施問題是沒有辦法防治然後補助經費不夠還是要輪還是要輪所以這個部分應該怎麼去解決我的具體的建議這個環境部要去協調國防部還有地方主管機關就是縣市政府應該要怎麼樣呢 |
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你這個補助,最起碼你要受到補償嗎?所以要補償,所以這個補償的部分應該優先優先就距離這個距離這個自航機場最近的 |
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最近的這部分其實這個很遠的其實不需要它真的很遠所以這個第一個要去檢討這個是合理的這第一個第二個就是說你每年都應該要補償而不是說要很多年之後才要補償所以這個部分是要請這個環境部要去協調地方政府因為這個部分確實是一個 |
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本來已經是我自己的部落我已經讓你當自航機場了 |
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結果我還要每天要做這個噪音卻又沒有辦法做補償可以嗎可以我們來跟國防部討論一下補償措施的部分請業務單位齊集的去協調然後要請業務單位提供一個月內提供什麼資料就是說我們有很多的機場所有的機場 |
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不管是軍用的軍用跟民航一起共用的或是單獨民航的這些相關的這些補償或是補助的一個情形可以嗎提供這樣的一個書面資料 |
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謝謝鄭天財委員 |