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151156 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151156 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-26-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
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| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-15T13:33:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-15T13:39:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f8a1755e5400c0eecd7b9adb2faa735dfefb6b28ae2d84df8ba9b0039caa7a65b2e05361ecac97e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:33:08 - 13:39:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、內政部、法務部、教育部、數位發展部、國家通訊傳播委員會、文化部就「數位技術普及造成兒少性剝削案件增加之因應作為與現行政策檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月15日及17日二天一次會】） |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（13時33分）主席、各位委員。請部長。 |
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主席：有請薛部長。 |
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薛部長瑞元：委員好！ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好！剛才在內政委員會因為議題很多，來不及質詢，剛好部長也在這裡，所以就在此特別針對財團法人賑災基金會有關住宅重建、重構賑助的申請條件提出質詢，這裡面特別提到第一類就是採低收入戶的標準，第二類是中低收入戶的標準，死亡的部分則沒有分，現在就是要談這個部分。 |
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我們先來看看捐助章程，財團法人賑災基金會是衛福部成立的一個公辦基金會，在捐助章程中關於協助災民住宅重建重構的事項只有提到災區重建、災民，並沒有提到條件，就像死亡沒有條件一樣。這個財團法人賑災基金會的捐助網站只說請大家趕快捐款，並沒有說設定怎麼樣的條件，我們看特殊境遇家庭，我是舉例，你用低收入戶、中低收入戶這樣的一個標準到底妥不妥當？因為衛福部依照社會救助法就對低收入戶、中低收入戶有社會救助，對不對？災害防救法也有災害救助，那是政府機關要做的事情，可是現在我們用的是民間的捐款，我們現在的建議是不要去設定這些條件，因為有很多的邊緣戶也很需要啊！舉個例子，特殊境遇家庭扶助條例不是採低收入戶或中低收入戶標準，用的是每人每月未超過政府當年公布最低生活費2.5倍的規定，它就是比中低收入戶的1.5倍還高。不僅僅如此，還有一個法令可以參考，就是內政部興辦社會住宅出租辦法第三條，對於社會住宅出租的規定是最低生活費的3.5倍，我們是要去解決邊緣戶的問題，何況這又是民間的捐款，所以這個部分對一個受災戶而言怎麼還要分什麼條件就有差別，可以嗎？這個修正很容易。 |
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薛部長瑞元：跟委員報告，目前的話大概是這樣子，賑災基金會現在正在收這些善款，我的印象中已經9億了，現在要考慮的是要怎麼樣去支付就是如何補助出去，賑災基金會現在基本上設定的有4個大項目，住宅重建是其中的一個，委員剛剛有提到死亡、重傷，這部分本來就有一個標準，但不是說只有那個標準，也就是說如果善款收得比較多一點的話，它那個標準是可以提高的，所以這個部分會在賑災基金會董事會做討論，之後會報到衛福部這邊來，其實行政院也有召集包括衛福部、賑災基金會一起就這方面進行討論，這4個方向是確定的，至於要怎麼樣去做補助還有內容要怎麼樣去制定，現在還在討論當中。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：請部長能將這些意見提到賑災基金會的會議裡面來討論。 |
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薛部長瑞元：就是生活補助啦、重建啦，還有就是死亡、重傷的慰問啦，這些都會根據收進來的錢有多少再去制定標準。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：最後，署立花蓮醫院的豐濱分院也有受災，它的建築物也請你們協助。 |
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薛部長瑞元：好，我們再看一下，醫福會會去處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，因為那也是公辦，是你們所屬的醫院。 |
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薛部長瑞元：好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝！ |
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薛部長瑞元：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭天財委員，接下來請李彥秀委員進行質詢。 |
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邀請衛生福利部部長、內政部、法務部、教育部、數位發展部、國家通訊傳播委員會、文化部就
「數位技術普及造成兒少性剝削案件增加之因應作為與現行政策檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
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主席、各位委員、部長好,有請薛部長部長好因為剛才在內政委員會議題很多就那邊來不及質詢因為部長也在這裡所以就特別針對 |
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財團法人政災基金會有關住宅重建重構正住的一個申請的條件這裡面特別提到第一類就是要用低收入戶的標準第二類是中低收入戶的標準死亡的部分是沒有分的現在就是要談這個部分 |
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我們看這個監柱張誠財團法輪政災基金會這是衛福部成立的一個公辦的這個基金會財團法輪這個監柱張誠關於協助災民住宅重建重構的事項這裡面只有提到災期重建災民並沒有提到條件就像死亡沒有條件一樣 |
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好 這個財務法人政災基金會的監促網站你們請大家趕快監管監管這裡面也沒有說我怎麼樣的要設定條件要不要設定條件 沒有寫我們看我特殊監獄家庭我是幾例你用低收入戶中低收入戶 |
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這樣的一個標準到底是妥不妥當因為你衛福部社會救助法就有低收入負對不對中低收入負也有社會救助啊對不對災害防救法也是災害救助那是政府機關要做的事情那現在我們用民間的監管 |
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我們現在就是我是建議不要去設定這些條件因為有很多的邊緣戶有很多的邊緣戶很需要啊所以這個部分我舉例子特殊盡一家庭他不是用低收入戶中低收入戶 |
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他用每人每夜未超過政府當年公布最低生活費的2.5倍他就是比那個1.5倍還高對不對中低收入是1.5倍他這個就是2.5倍不僅僅是這樣喔還有一個法律可以參考內政部新辦社會住宅出租辦法第三條 |
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對於社會住宅的出租的規定最低生活費的3.5倍這個就是要去解決何況要去解決這個邊緣負何況又是民間的監管民間的監管所以這個部分對一個受災負而言還有分這個就有差別 |
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可以嗎?這個是不是?這修正很容易啊?剛剛的報告齁,目前的話大概是這樣子的齁。那政策基金會現在正在收這些善款。那我的印象中已經達到8億多了。已經9億了。OK。好。 |
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那現在是要怎麼樣去支付就是說補助出去那正在基本上現在它所設定的就是有四個大項目那住宅重建是其中的一個當然剛剛我們有提到死亡、重傷這部分它本來就有一個標準在那個地方但是不是說只有那個標準 |
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也就是說他如果他的善款收的比較多一點的話他那個標準是可以提高的所以這個部分的話會在政策基金會裡面他們的董事會會做討論之後的話會到衛福部這邊來 |
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其實行政院也有召集包括衛福部包括政財基金會一起在做討論做這一方面來做討論那四個方向是確定但是四個方向要怎麼樣去做補助這個還有這個他的內容要怎麼樣去制定的話現在還在討論當中 |
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就是請這個部長請衛福部能夠提到這個這個政災基金會的會議裡面來討論生活補助啦重建啦還有這個死亡那個重傷的慰問啦這部分的話都會根據這個收進來的錢有多少再去做這一個制定那個標準最後這個 |
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鄭天才委員 |