| IVOD_ID |
150926 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150926 |
| 日期 |
2024-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-15-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-04-08T12:41:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-04-08T12:52:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/76e938165848398171b0fd8b8cfc87013b24fe939fcb22b9f8ba9b0039caa7a68c182ccf94525d475ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:41:59 - 12:52:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。(一)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（一）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(二)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(三)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（三）預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(四)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（四）預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(五)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（五）預算凍結20萬元書面報告，請查照案。(六)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二十四）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。三、審查或處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關大陸委員會預算凍結案計5案。(一)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「一般行政」預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(二)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「綜合規劃業務」預算凍結200萬元專案報告，請查照案。(三)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「經濟業務」預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(四)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「法政業務」預算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案。(五)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「港澳蒙藏業務」預算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案。） |
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賴委員士葆：（12時41分）謝謝主席以及各位先進，有請陸委會主委邱主委。 |
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主席：請陸委會邱主委。 |
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邱主任委員太三：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：主委你好，我記得你跟賴清德都當過國大代表。 |
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邱主任委員太三：對，我們都是第3屆。 |
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賴委員士葆：我也是第3屆。 |
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邱主任委員太三：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以你關係不錯，你跟賴清德關係不錯？ |
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邱主任委員太三：應該是說人際還好啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：人際還好，所以520之後還可以看到你？是不是？ |
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邱主任委員太三：應該是不會啦！應該是不會啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：真的假的？ |
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邱主任委員太三：因為我從學校借調出來已經10年了。 |
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賴委員士葆：10年回不去了？ |
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邱主任委員太三：沒有，我們私立學校跟公立學校不一樣。 |
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賴委員士葆：私立學校可以？ |
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邱主任委員太三：因為我上個月才接到…… |
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賴委員士葆：我借調2次就回不去了。 |
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邱主任委員太三：我上個月還收到專任的聘書。 |
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賴委員士葆：我是借調2次，一次3年、一次4年。 |
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邱主任委員太三：我2月的時候還接到學校給我的專任聘書。 |
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賴委員士葆：希望520之後還能看到你。其實以前你當陸委會主委，大家對你是有期待的，你個性比較溫和，比較不會喊打喊殺，結果做到現在沒看到什麼成績，兩岸還是緊張，在你任內、邱太三大主委任內，兩岸是越來越緊張，變成這樣，你對於兩岸緊張的緩和沒有貢獻，有貢獻嗎？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我想蔡總統所定調的維持現狀，基本上我想應該是達到這樣的一個目標，也因為在這樣的一個目標底下，我想各位、大家可以看到，國際社會對臺灣的關注、關心更加緊密。第二個，對岸大概不滿意，但是它也要忍受，為什麼？因為是它自己把很多東西弄得更緊張，譬如說它軍事的擴張，不是只有我們緊張，包括周邊都緊張。 |
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賴委員士葆：我的時間有限，我想要跟你談的，前面、剛才是開始鋪陳，現在才進入真正想問你的問題，依你們的掌握，是不是確定會有馬習二會？確不確定？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我覺得我倒是想從委員那邊獲得一些訊息。 |
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賴委員士葆：我哪知道？我又沒去大陸，我哪知道？你是情報單位、國安單位的…… |
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邱主任委員太三：情報單位是國安局啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：你們是國安單位的…… |
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邱主任委員太三：我們是政策跟資訊蒐集。 |
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賴委員士葆：你們也是國安單位的一部分，不是嗎？ |
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邱主任委員太三：當然有很多的跡象啦！很多的跡象應該是朝這樣的一個方向在處理，譬如說我們現在講，所有記者都要快篩檢測2次，這個一定是要見大人物才需要2次…… |
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賴委員士葆：所以我可以這樣講嘛，「邱太三：馬習二會機率很高」，這樣可以嗎？ |
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邱主任委員太三：沒有，我們還是持續在關注各項訊息啦！我們還是持續蒐集…… |
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賴委員士葆：你剛剛講的，我給你summary就是這個意思啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：不是啦，當然不是只有這些啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：就是邱太三這樣講…… |
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邱主任委員太三：我們會蒐集很多相關資訊…… |
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賴委員士葆：大家都這樣講，這個不稀奇，大家都這樣講啦！ |
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邱主任委員太三：對、對、對。 |
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賴委員士葆：我希望你今天來這裡能夠知無不言，言無不盡。 |
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邱主任委員太三：委員，你跟馬前總統這麼好，你直接問他就比較快啦！不然問馬辦蕭旭岑執行長，他一定會告訴你。 |
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賴委員士葆：我當然問你啊！因為你有「機關藏佇倉庫」。 |
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邱主任委員太三：沒有、沒有、沒有，他們是當事人會比較瞭解。 |
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賴委員士葆：你以前在這裡就講了，你跟大陸有密使啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：我哪裡有講！ |
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賴委員士葆：你說你有溝通的管道，私底下溝通管道就是密使啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：不是，那個管道是過去30年來政府兩邊的相關單位…… |
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賴委員士葆：那個就是密使，不是嗎？ |
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邱主任委員太三：沒有、沒有、沒有，那跟密使不一樣。 |
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賴委員士葆：私底下的溝通管道…… |
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邱主任委員太三：密使跟管道不一樣啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：密使跟管道不一樣？ |
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邱主任委員太三：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：在我看起來是一樣，公開出來就是管道，沒有公開出來就是密使。 |
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邱主任委員太三：通常密使就不會曝光的才叫做密使。 |
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賴委員士葆：是啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：但是管道它基本上是建制在的，我們一定可以跟委員報告…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為當初你要接陸委會主委，很多人的看法就是，你私底下的管道，外面不知道的很多啊！要不然為什麼找你？對不對？就是這樣啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：委員，你的期待太高了啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：期待太高？ |
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邱主任委員太三：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：你認為馬習二會會成了之後，對臺海的和平有沒有幫助？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我想我沒有辦法知道他們具體到底要談哪些事情。 |
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賴委員士葆：後天就知道了…… |
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邱主任委員太三：對、對、對，所以我想等他們出來…… |
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賴委員士葆：後天就知道了，對喔！各位聽好了！我說後天就知道了，他說對喔！ |
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邱主任委員太三：這是我們委員的看法。我想做文化跟教育的交流，基本上是讓雙方更進一步的理解，我想這個是對特別是新的世代是一個好的方向，至於其他的部分，我們不知道他們具體的內容到底要談什麼啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：對啦！但是對於馬前總統去大陸這一行我們看到的，其實執政黨就是立委罵、罵、罵、罵、罵，但是我們政府單位看起來是很克制的，基本上，最少你今天到目前為止也沒有去罵馬英九，對不對？ |
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邱主任委員太三：因為任何國人要去大陸做文化、教育的交流，我們當然都是樂觀其成啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：那你跟你們的立委說一下，為什麼要罵成這樣？ |
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邱主任委員太三：問題是每一個人是不同的角度嘛！大家認為馬總統他可能會不會涉及到被統戰或者是…… |
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賴委員士葆：被統戰？對自己都沒有信心，我們去統戰他們啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：這是每一個人不同的角度。 |
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賴委員士葆：我們去統戰他們啦！為什麼怕被統戰呢？為什麼我們不去統戰他們呢？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我覺得馬總統就是應該第一個就是告訴陸方，沒事來騷擾我們幹什麼，對不對？沒事來介選…… |
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賴委員士葆：然後呢？再來，還有沒有？ |
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邱主任委員太三：所以我是說…… |
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賴委員士葆：你等於隔空傳話給馬總統…… |
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邱主任委員太三：不是，馬總統應該告訴…… |
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賴委員士葆：還有第二點…… |
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邱主任委員太三：如果有機會的話，他應該告訴對岸說，他們那些所謂的軟硬的措施、介選的措施，臺灣人民是非常痛恨的。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，還有第三點。 |
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邱主任委員太三：沒有啦！我想主要是告訴他們說，他們的作法其實是適得其反的。 |
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賴委員士葆：那你今天來也沒什麼新的東西，我以為你這裡，你是陸委會主委，一定有很多東西可以告訴我們。 |
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邱主任委員太三：我剛才已經講過了，你直接問蕭旭岑可能瞭解的更多。 |
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賴委員士葆：我要問邱太三啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：那我只能說，10號以後我們再看有沒有發生。 |
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賴委員士葆：我們看到外界這次的評價其實是，如果有馬習二會，假如現在大家都這樣子的，像你剛剛講的又做PCR等等一堆，萬一沒有的話，沒有馬習二會，對大陸是扣分的喔！你同意這句話嗎？你同意這句statement？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我想北京應該有聽到你…… |
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賴委員士葆：當然有聽到啊！我講給他聽的。 |
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邱主任委員太三：對、對、對，有聽到你的說法了。 |
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賴委員士葆：他沒有見的話，對他是扣分的，他見了馬英九不見得加分，但是沒有見就是扣分，因為前面那個序曲弄太多了，「風飛沙」弄半天，結果都沒有，我認為是有，而且你可以看到，這次是個文化之旅、祭祖之旅、歷史交流之旅，其實就是一個和平之旅，你同意嗎？ |
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邱主任委員太三：因為臺灣是一個多元的社會，對於各種不管是文化、歷史或者是其他的交流，每一個人都可以有自己的想像、期待跟想要去做推動的啦！基本上我們是尊重。 |
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賴委員士葆：因為馬英九不一樣啦！他畢竟當過我們中華民國的總統，以前總統的高度，跟現任的…… |
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邱主任委員太三：對，所以他要展現出來維護中華民國的主權跟尊嚴。 |
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賴委員士葆：維護什麼？ |
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邱主任委員太三：中華民國的主權跟…… |
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賴委員士葆：當然是，你講的是對的。 |
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邱主任委員太三：對、對、對，但是到現在為止好像還沒有看到。 |
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賴委員士葆：你不要像其他立委講的什麼維持臺灣國的主權，那個不對啦！維持中華民國的主權是對的！ |
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邱主任委員太三：跟尊嚴。 |
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賴委員士葆：但是他去年就做啦，你們說他不敢去，他在大陸就…… |
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邱主任委員太三：但是到現在為止好像還沒有看到一些應該要有的表現。 |
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賴委員士葆：去年都講了中華民國講了N次，講了112年，落款也都這樣寫，去年做過了。 |
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邱主任委員太三：但是少了一個民國啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：已經有民了，你沒有認真讀書，他那個民，他在臺灣的簽字都是寫民，比如說110年，就叫民110，沒有中華民國，就是民110。 |
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邱主任委員太三：那如果寫中華民國不是更好？我想全臺灣2,300萬人一定跟他鼓掌。 |
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賴委員士葆：來，來，讓我把這個話講完，不要緊張，你不要緊張、你不要緊張，我馬上結束。我就是要跟你強調一點，他今天沒有回答我的話啊，他都是在這裡「黑龍繞桌」。最後一點，請問，蔡英文總統講的維持現狀，賴清德會繼續嗎？就是用中華民國憲法以及兩岸人民關係條例來處理兩岸關係，我就這一句話，等你講完我就下去。 |
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邱主任委員太三：報告委員，我剛剛不是已經講了嗎？ |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有講！ |
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邱主任委員太三：我已經做了10年了，我2月份才接到亞大的專任聘書。 |
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賴委員士葆：不是，你贊成用中華民國憲法plus兩岸人民關係條例處理兩岸關係最safe，而且對中華民國最好，同意吧？ |
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邱主任委員太三：到目前為止，他們並沒有跟我們做交接的徵詢或是什麼等等，所以我想等他們問的時候，我們再來回答，好不好？ |
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賴委員士葆：你還是不回答就對了！ |
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邱主任委員太三：我怎麼可以越俎代庖？下一個總統的作法…… |
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賴委員士葆：不是，我是說以你現在啊！ |
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邱主任委員太三：我剛剛已經講過了…… |
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賴委員士葆：你期待可以吧？ |
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邱主任委員太三：就是2016年520到現在，蔡英文總統維持現狀這樣一個基調…… |
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賴委員士葆：不是，你可不可以期待下一任的主委…… |
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邱主任委員太三：已經獲得國際上和臺灣民眾非常高度的肯定跟支持，將近80%…… |
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賴委員士葆：你要不要期待下一任的主委也是維持這樣子？ |
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邱主任委員太三：我想能夠維持穩定現狀，不只是我們，我想國際社會也都是這樣來期待的。 |
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主席：好，謝謝我們賴士葆委員質詢。謝謝。 |
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下一位陳培瑜委員質詢，謝謝。 |
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黃捷 |
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徐欣瑩 |
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許宇甄 |
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賴士葆 |
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陳培瑜 |
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立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概
況，並備質詢；二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案(一)
客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（一）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請
查照案、(二)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二）預算凍結100萬元
書面報告，請查照案、(三)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（三）預
算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案、(四)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送
決議（四）預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案、(五)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預
算決議，檢送決議（五）預算凍結20萬元書面報告，請查照案、(六)客家委員會函，為113年度
中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二十四）預算凍結 100萬元書面報告，請查照案；三、審查或
處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關大陸委員會預算凍結案計 5案(一)大陸委員會函，為113年度
中央政府總預算決議，檢送「一般行政」預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案、(二)大陸委員會
函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「綜合規劃業務」預算凍結200萬元專案報告，請查照
案、(三)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「經濟業務」預算凍結100萬元書
面報告，請查照案、(四)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「法政業務」預
算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案、(五)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送
「港澳蒙藏業務」預算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案 |
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前陸委會邱主委委員好主委你好我記得你跟賴清德都當過國代代表對我們都是第三屆我也是第三屆的所以你關係不錯你跟賴清德關係不錯我應該是說人際還好啦人際還好所以520之後我還可以看到你 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
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有貢獻嗎?基本上我想蔡總統所定調的維持現狀基本上我想應該是達到這樣的一個目標所以也因為在這樣的一個目標底下我想各位大概可以看到國際社會對台灣的關注、關心更加的緊密 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議 |
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這個是不是你們的掌握是不是確定會有馬戲奧會確不確定我覺得我倒是想從委員那邊獲得一些訊息 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議． |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
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這是我們委員的這個看法那基本上我想做文化跟教育的交流基本上是讓雙方更進一步的理解我想這個是對特別是新的時代是一個好的方向那至於說其他的部分我們不知道他具體的內容到底要談什麼 |
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對阿但是對於馬前總統去大陸這一行我們看到的其實執政黨就是立委罵罵罵罵罵但是我們政府單位看起來是很克制的基本上最少你今天到目前為止也沒有去罵罵很久阿 |
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因為他任何國人要去大陸做文化交流的交流,我們當然都是樂觀其成的。問題是在於每一個人是不同的角度嘛。大家認為馬總統他可能會涉及到,可能會不會是涉及到被統戰,或者是其他。這是每一個人不同的角度。我們去統戰他們啦,為什麼怕被統戰呢? |
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我覺得馬總統就是應該跟第一個就是告訴路芳 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。 |
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二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
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假如現在大家都這樣子的像你剛剛講的又做PCR啦這樣你啦把啦一堆萬一沒有的話沒有馬西奧會對大陸是扣分的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
421.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
442.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
你同意這句話嗎?你同意這句statement嗎?你這我想應該北京應該有聽到我講給他聽的有聽到你的說法了他沒有見的話我對他是扣分他見了馬英九不見得加分但是沒有見就是扣分因為前面那個序期維吾爾分析感清閉維吾爾分析感清閉我認為是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
449.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
451.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
477.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
505.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
508.497 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
530.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
549.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
比如說110叫民110沒有中華民國一定就民就是中華民國我諾寫中華民國不是更好不是我想全台灣2300萬一定跟他鼓掌來我一講齁既然來來讓我把這話講齁不要緊張我沒有你不要緊張你不要緊張我我水爽齁我就是要跟你強調一點齁沒有他今天沒有回答我的話他都是在這裡歐攬誰都來最後一點最後一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
562.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
569.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
581.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
582.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
兩岸人民關係條例處理兩岸關係最safe |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
599.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
600.676 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
614.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
617.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
645.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
648.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
好 謝謝我們再次把委員出席好 謝謝陳培宜嗎 |