| IVOD_ID |
150075 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/150075 |
| 日期 |
2024-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-03-20T09:26:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-03-20T09:38:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b8deaa01a2e7f192f3317af967f5af1ded861a3b97380652f8ba9b0039caa7a63da6a207a82d1db15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:26:37 - 09:38:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：處理或審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算決議，有關財政部主管預算凍結書面報告案45案。[如經院會復議，則不予處理或審查]
【3月18日及20日二天一次會】） |
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賴委員士葆：（9時26分）主席以及各位先進。有請財政部的莊部長。 |
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主席：請財政部部長。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員早。 |
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賴委員士葆：部長你早。昨天央行總裁在總質詢提到金融兵推，當然就是為了金融穩定，據我所瞭解的是，在金融穩定這一塊，財政部、央行、金管會，財政部是召集人，是嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們是參與其中之一的召集人。 |
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賴委員士葆：就是這一組的召集人。 |
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莊部長翠雲：是。 |
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賴委員士葆：請問上一次什麼時候開？ |
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莊部長翠雲：去年。 |
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賴委員士葆：去年什麼時候？ |
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莊部長翠雲：去年10月跟12月。 |
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賴委員士葆：去年10月、12月會議的主持單位是國安局，還是行政院哪個單位？ |
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莊部長翠雲：在我們這邊會有一個會議，我們部裡面本身會有一個次長主持的會議，那在行政院是院長召集的。 |
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賴委員士葆：我請教你，跟財政部有關的兵推這一塊，是推什麼？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們主要是財力的動員。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼叫財力動員？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們主要是要配合國防部的整體規劃，然後我們看看他們的演練情形，包含戰備的籌措、預算的轉換。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼叫預算轉換？ |
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莊部長翠雲：移緩濟急啊！譬如我們配合央行還有金管會做外匯、金融等等的相關計畫。 |
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賴委員士葆：外匯要管制？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，相關的計畫，都會，也就是說我們…… |
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賴委員士葆：不是，我請教你，你講得具體一點，當然如果是機密就不講，沒有機密你就要講。就是你說配合央行是怎麼樣？如果打仗的時候不可以匯出只可以匯進，是不是這樣？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，有關動員的階段…… |
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賴委員士葆：動員階段就這樣子了？ |
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莊部長翠雲：預算的轉換還有金融外匯的管制。 |
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賴委員士葆：就加強管制？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，細節的部分恐怕。 |
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賴委員士葆：細節不講啦。 |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：那關務署會不會加速軍用品的通關？ |
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莊部長翠雲：關務署在通關的部分當然急需加速的話一定會配合…… |
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賴委員士葆：便捷化？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，便捷，當然。 |
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賴委員士葆：你剛剛提到國庫的穩定，國庫調度很重要。 |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：有沒有討論如果真的打仗，我們可能要加稅？有沒有可能？資金調度可能不夠啊！打仗錢不夠啊！ |
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莊部長翠雲：也許我們…… |
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賴委員士葆：有沒有可能？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分可能是考慮的一個項目，這涉及到戰費的籌措。 |
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賴委員士葆：是嘛！戰備資金的籌措。 |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：那就可能加稅了？是不是？或者是費？ |
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莊部長翠雲：稅或費。 |
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賴委員士葆：就是因應戰爭的戰爭費或者兵捐、戰爭捐，是不是這樣子？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我想這個部分都有考慮，稅跟費都有考慮。 |
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賴委員士葆：費應該比較簡單吧？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對。 |
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賴委員士葆：費比稅簡單，稅還要立法。請問你，費要不要立法？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分的立法情況是…… |
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賴委員士葆：費要不要立法？如果增加一個…… |
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莊部長翠雲：都要立法，跟民眾收錢都要立法。 |
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賴委員士葆：對，向老百姓要一塊錢都要立法。所以12月之後就沒有再開了？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，一年都開…… |
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賴委員士葆：今年都沒開？ |
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莊部長翠雲：今年還沒。 |
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賴委員士葆：我再請教另外一個問題，囤房稅2.0版什麼時候開徵？ |
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莊部長翠雲：我們的2.0從今年7月1號開始實施，在明年5月稅單就會呈現出稅額。 |
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賴委員士葆：我跟你講，臺北市跟臺南市在稅基的部分早就大幅調升了，所以那時候有一個搭配，臺北市的稅率從1.2降到0.6，你們的底線是1.2；臺南市是黃偉哲當市長，也是稅基大幅上升，好像有幾百個percent，然後稅率降為1.0，現在等於這兩個都、兩個直轄市的稅基都大幅調整。當初他們也是為了打炒房、打囤房，所以稅率的部分調為0.6，結果現在你都沒有跟地方政府商量、溝通一下，回顧我們上一屆在野黨提了多少囤房稅2.0的法案，你們連審都不審、理都不理啊！後來選舉的時候，賴清德登高一呼說要，你們就這樣子了，那個時候我有版本，我的版本就是這樣，我現在針對單一一戶自住的，這個應該降為0.6、低一點，中間那一塊、後面可以高一點，你的最高只有4.8，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：是。 |
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賴委員士葆：我覺得有十戶以上的可以更高，這麼有錢就多課一點，沒有人反對，可是對於單一自住，你們還是1.0開始起跳，有沒有緩衝的空間？我是臺北市選出來的立委，臺北市有21萬戶是單一自住，等於要增加40%，原來0.6，現在變1.0，增加40%的負擔很重，單一自住的一個小公寓也是要這樣子，負擔很重！我請教部長，當然要一視同仁，其他的縣市有這個問題都可以適用，如果目前稅基調漲、稅率調降，整體來講還是漲的，這個情況可不可能逐年調整？比如說0.7、0.8，或者0.8開始到幾年或2年以後變1.0，有沒有可能？ |
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莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，這部分當時臺北市確實如同委員所說，因為我們稅率訂定1.2，所以對於單一自住的稅基部分給予打對折，等於稅率變成0.6。這次中央的房屋稅條例修正後，單一自住下降到1%，但是臺北市的部分怎麼辦呢？因為稅基是做稅基的折減，這部分臺北市政府在上禮拜的時候有講，市長已經對外說這部分會分4年逐步調整，也就是不要讓這21萬戶馬上受到衝擊，分4年來調整，讓它回到房屋稅條例的規定，也就是按照既有的稅基乘以1%來算單一自住。 |
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賴委員士葆：這樣你接受嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這部分我們也有回應它的意見，第一個，我們理解當時臺北市政府為什麼這樣做的理由，我們認為精神上跟中央目前的法規是一致的，分為4年還要先經過他們的地方審議委員會通過，我們希望審議委員會通過之後，他們能確實落實分4年來做。 |
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賴委員士葆：你接受嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：這個部分我們可以理解，也可以接受。 |
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賴委員士葆：可以接受？ |
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莊部長翠雲：是，可以接受，因為至少是朝著法規的方向。 |
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賴委員士葆：就是你們可以接受4年內到1.0？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，分4年來調整。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，謝謝你。 |
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莊部長翠雲：謝謝委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：自由貿易港區裡面要不要課稅是你管的，對不對？ |
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莊部長翠雲：有關稅的部分當然是歸我們，還有關務的部分，我們也有…… |
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賴委員士葆：交通部？ |
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莊部長翠雲：對，主要是交通部。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有，它裡面說要不要課稅是交通部要問你們，所以是交通部提給你們，你們再提給交通部。我現在告訴你，自貿區第十五條明文規定違禁品不可以進自貿區，第十五條第一項第一款寫得很清楚，結果現在我們查到電子煙、加熱菸其實還是禁止的，加熱菸要經過衛福部審核…… |
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莊部長翠雲：是，健康風險評估。 |
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賴委員士葆：目前為止沒有一件通過、一件都沒有，所以是違禁品喔！結果自貿區有電子煙成品1,826支、加熱菸成品6,155支、加熱菸的零件26.4萬支，都在高雄關、臺北關這兩個地方，第三個是基隆關，有一部分在基隆關，在自貿區有違禁品是明顯違法，財政部帶頭違法讓違禁品進入自貿區，怎麼可以呢？來，部長講一下。 |
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莊部長翠雲：委員，是不是可以請關務署署長說明？謝謝。 |
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賴委員士葆：可以，要快喔！時間快到了。 |
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彭署長英偉：報告委員，加熱菸跟電子煙不算是違禁品。 |
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賴委員士葆：違禁品啊！到目前為止不能…… |
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彭署長英偉：它不是這一條這一款的違禁品。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以它不是違禁品？ |
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彭署長英偉：不是這一條的違禁品，違禁品基本上是指違反著作權或是商標權、智慧財產權的東西。 |
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賴委員士葆：可是目前我們的相關法律規定它還不可以進來啊！ |
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彭署長英偉：是，不可以進來…… |
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賴委員士葆：不可以進來，但可以進來自貿區喔？怎麼這樣？ |
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彭署長英偉：對，因為自貿區是境內關外的概念，所以衛福部同意…… |
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賴委員士葆：如果這樣子，嗎啡也可以進來囉？ |
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彭署長英偉：毒品什麼的也是可以進…… |
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賴委員士葆：也可以進自貿區？ |
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彭署長英偉：但是要經過目的事業主管機關的同意，依照第十五條的規定。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以毒品可以進來？ |
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彭署長英偉：依照自貿港區管理條例第十五條的規定，這些東西要經過目的事業主管機關的同意。 |
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賴委員士葆：回答要很小心喔！ |
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最後一個小問題，部長，有人這樣呼籲，你知道臺灣騎摩托車的機車族有多少人？你知道嗎？ |
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莊部長翠雲：很多。 |
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賴委員士葆：多少？1,500萬輛，這些人相對弱勢，但是臺灣的主流是機車族，機車燃料費一年也不過收40億到50億，這個機車燃料費可不可以廢除掉？方便我們廣大的機車族，這個很麻煩又擾民，還課不了多少錢，可不可以？ |
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莊部長翠雲：燃料費的部分不是財政部主管。 |
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賴委員士葆：不是你們管？ |
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莊部長翠雲：是交通部。 |
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賴委員士葆：稅的問題都是…… |
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莊部長翠雲：稅是我們。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，我去問交通部，謝謝。 |
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莊部長翠雲：謝謝委員。 |
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主席（王委員世堅代）：賴士葆委員質詢結束，謝謝賴委員。 |
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現在請下一位郭國文委員發言。 |
| gazette.agenda.page_end |
278 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-1-20-4 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
郭國文 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
王世堅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
顏寬恒 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
黃珊珊 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
陳玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
李彥秀 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
鍾佳濱 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
黃國昌 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
謝衣鳯 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[17] |
羅明才 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
215 |
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2024-03-20 |
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處理或審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算決議，有關財政部主管預算凍結書面報告案45案 |
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謝謝主席一起各位先進有請財政部的莊部長請財政部長委員長部長你早喔昨天吧這個楊總裁在總諮詢有提到金融兵推 |
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我所瞭解的是在這一塊金融穩定這一塊財政部央行金管會這個財政部是召集人嗎是嗎我們是參與其中之一的召集人對就是這一組的召集人請問上一次什麼時候開啊這可以講嗎去年欸 |
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對去年什麼時候我印象我不知道去年什麼時候開去年10月跟12月對去年10月12月會議的主持單位是國安局還是那個單位行政院在行政院在我們這邊我們會有一個會議我們在部裡面本身會有一個次長主持的會議那在行政院是 |
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院長召集的院長召集喔我請教你財政部跟你有關的兵推的這一塊你是推什麼我們主要是財力的動員財力的動員什麼叫財力動員我們主要是要配合國防部的一個整體規劃然後我們看看他們的演練情形然後包含就是說我們的戰費的籌措預算的轉換 |
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什麼叫預算凍結書面報告案?預算凍結書面報告案?預算凍結書面報告案? |
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這個配合央行是怎麼樣是如果打仗的時候不可以匯出只可以匯進是不是這樣對有關這個動員的階段動員階段就這樣子嗎預算的轉換還有金融外匯的管制啊 |
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就加強管制對對對那關務署會不會加速軍用品的通關關務署在通關的部分當然有急加速的話一定會便捷化對便捷當然軍用品對你剛提到國庫的穩定國庫調度很重要有沒有討論的如果真的打仗我們可能要加稅有沒有可能 |
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就戰爭券是不是這樣子我想這個部分都是考慮稅跟費都有考慮的稅比較簡單嘛應該稅比稅簡單嘛稅還要立法啊稅要不要立法求你這個部分的立法的情況是稅要不要立法如果增加一個都要立法你跟民眾收錢都要立法 |
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對,要向老百姓要一塊錢都要立法。所以12月之後就沒再開了?對,一年都開了。今年都沒開?今年還沒。好,我再請教你另外一個問題。 |
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臺北市跟臺南市在稅基的部分早就大幅挑生了 |
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所以那時候我有一個搭配所以稅率台北市呢從1.2你們底線是1.2降到0.6台南市黃偉哲當市長他也是稅期大幅上升上升好像是有幾百個%然後稅率呢降為1.0 |
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那現在的稅基這兩個縣市這兩個這個都啦齁這兩個直轄市都稅基大幅調整了那當初那時候他們就是也是為了打草房打囤房所以稅率的部分他調為0.6結果現在你沒有跟地方政府商量溝通一下啪本來回顧我們上一屆 |
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我們在海黨提了多少個屯房稅2.0的法案你們都審都不審啊理都不理啊後來選舉的時候賴清德把燈膏一壺要你們就這樣子了那時候我有版本啊我有版本就是這樣子啊單一自助我現在是針對單一一戶自助的這個應該這樣啊就0.6低一點啊那中間那塊後面再高一點你最高只有4.8嘛對不對 |
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十點八我覺得有那個十戶以上的可以更高嘛這麼有錢不可以頂啦沒有人反對可是你對單一自住你們還是一點零開始就起跳了齁有沒有緩衝的空間喔這個這個臺北市以臺北市臺北市選出來的立委二十一萬戶是單一自住 |
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他覺得要增加40%原來0.6嘛下面1.0啊增加40%這個負擔很重單一自主一個小公寓也是要這樣子負擔很重我就請教部長可以不可以 |
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但是一視同仁吧其他的現實有這個問題都可以使用如果他現在目前稅級調漲稅率調降整體來講還是漲的啦齁整體還是漲的 |
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這個情況可不可能讓他逐年調整比如說零點七零點八或者你零點八開始到幾年或兩年以後一點零有沒有可能跟委員報告這個部分臺北市當時確實如同委員所說的因為我們稅率定電1.2 |
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所以他對單一自住的部分在稅基部分隔以打6打對折嘛就等於稅率變成0.6那這一次呢中央的一個房屋稅條例修正後單一自住的是一趴就一趴就下降了那但是他那個部分怎麼辦呢因為 |
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賴士葆是做稅基的折減那這個部分呢台北市政府在上個禮拜的時候蔣市長已經對外說這個部分他們會分4年來逐步的一個調整也就是說不要讓這個21萬戶馬上受到衝擊然後他分4年來調整當然分4年調整讓他回到我們房屋稅條例的規定也就是按照他的既有的稅基乘以1%來算 |
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那這個部分我們也有回應他的意見第一個我們理解當時台北市政府為什麼這樣做的理由那我們認為精神上是跟中央目前的法規是一致的那他分為4年了他還要經過他們的地方審議委員會的通過那我們希望經過審議委員會通過之後他們能夠確實落實這個分4年來做 |
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是這樣你接受嗎這個部分我們可以理解也可以接受是可以接受是可以接受因為至少他是朝著就是4年內到一定年對他就是分4年來做調查好謝謝你喔是謝謝委員來自由貿易港區裡面是不是一些要不要課稅你管的對不對這有關稅的部分當然是歸我們那當然還有關務的部分也是我們也有交通部 |
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對對對主要是交通部好沒有沒有他裡面說要不要扣稅是交通部要問你們所以你不要交通部提給你們你們提給交通部然後現在告訴你自貿區第15條明文規定違禁品不可以進自貿區自貿區了違禁品寫很清楚第15條第一項第一款結果現在我們查到了電子煙 |
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加辣煙其實現在都是禁止的這個加辣煙是要要審核進攻不如不審核目前為止沒有一件通過沒有一件都沒有所以是違禁品喔結果你們臺北關自貿區電子煙成品1826支加辣煙的成品6155支加辣煙的零件 |
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二十六點四萬隻都在高雄關臺北關這兩個地方那麼有的基隆關然後這個這第三個基隆關有一部分的基隆關 |
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你們怎麼會自貿區讓維靖平明顯違法欸財政部帶頭違法讓維靖平進入你的自貿區怎麼可以呢來來來部長講一下委員是不是可以請我們關務處長來說明謝謝要快喔時間快到了來報告委員這個加熱菸跟電子菸這個不算是維靖平啦維靖平那到目前為止不是這一條這一款的維靖平誰誰誰 |
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他是誰調的違禁品啊那違禁品基本上是指那個違反這個著作權的啦或者是商標權的這些智慧財產權的東西可是目前目前我們法律相關的還是規定他不可以進來啊是不可以進來不可以進來可以進來自貿區喔那內對因為自貿區是境內關外的概念啦所以衛福部那邊不同意說那你這樣子麻廢也可以進來囉 |
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636.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
636.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
最後一個小問題喔 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
658.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
669.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
有人家呼籲了部長啊台灣你是那個騎摩托車的機車組有多少人你知道嗎很多多少1500萬輛這些人相對弱勢但是台灣的主流是機車組的機車燃料費 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
681.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
681.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
謝謝委員謝謝 |