| IVOD_ID |
17701 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17701 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-26T14:00:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-26T16:32:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:31:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373d7928296430210a063bb32372788d24a9c4e1634621e7662559c3b23d4bb092575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-26T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：三、審查
(一) 委員林月琴等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員李彥秀等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例第十五條、第十六條及第十七條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員王育敏等21人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員林月琴等28人擬具「教保服務人員條例第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員陳冠廷等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例增訂第二十三條之一條文草案」案。
(七) 委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
【進行詢答及逐條審查】） |
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1951.17 |
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1953.17 |
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我們下個影片再見吧 |
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1952.81 |
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1954.31 |
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報告委員會,現在繼續開會 |
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1954.31 |
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1957.81 |
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本次會議下午一晨審查委員林業勤等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1957.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1961.31 |
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十六人擬具教保人員服務條例第三三條 |
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1961.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1963.31 |
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條文修正草案等七案 |
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1964.6 |
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1967.1 |
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首先介紹在場的委員陳培宇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1969.97 |
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1970.97 |
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蔡孫佐委員 |
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1971.64 |
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1972.64 |
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葉元芝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1974.72 |
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介紹在場委員官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1974.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1976.72 |
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政務市長張廖萬堅 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1976.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1977.72 |
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下一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1980.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
下一步國民集區恩教育署署長彭富源 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1983.45 |
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保護部參事王南軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1983.45 |
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1987.45 |
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勞動部職業安全衛生署視察葉青中 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1987.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1988.45 |
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以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1989.48 |
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1992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
其餘列席機關代表警察員名單不再逐一介紹 |
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1992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1993.98 |
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並列入公報記錄 |
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1995.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1997.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
現在進行提案說明 |
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1997.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1999.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
有沒有委員要提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
2001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
2004.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
我們請葉元芝委員幫我代理召會好嗎謝謝 |
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2017.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2018.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
2019.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2022.87 |
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我們現在請羅廷偉委員提案說明 |
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2026.23 |
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2026.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
好 |
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2027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2031.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
教保人員條例修正草案的提案 |
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2031.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
跟大家特別報告 |
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2032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
今年幼稚園性騷擾性侵害體罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2038.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
霸凌及其他不當對待的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2038.68 |
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2040.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
還是不斷的在發生 |
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2040.68 |
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2042.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
幼兒年紀小自我保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2042.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2044.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
已表達的年曆有限 |
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2044.68 |
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2049.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
因此制度不能只是在事情發生之後處罰行為人 |
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2049.18 |
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2052.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
更重要的是當風險已經出現的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2052.18 |
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2055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
能不能及時的阻止下一個孩子受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2055.18 |
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2056.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
今年七月 |
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2056.18 |
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2059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
基隆一間準公共幼兒園發生嚴重 |
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2059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2062.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
不當的對待幼童的事件 |
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2062.18 |
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2064.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
兩名教保服務人員遭重罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2064.68 |
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2068.18 |
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並終身不得再任教教保人員 |
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2068.18 |
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2071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
但原所負責人依現行的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2072.85 |
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2075.35 |
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罰款最高只有6萬元 |
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2075.93 |
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2078.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
我們不是只是想要罰 |
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2078.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2079.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
應該罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2080.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2081.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
而處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
而是我們應該要調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
凸顯第一線行為人之外 |
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2087.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2092.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
機構管理通報的主管機關風險的控管機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2092.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2095.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
都還需要有補強的一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我們更希望要凸顯的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2100.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
保護認真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2100.61 |
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2101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
幼保人員 |
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2101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2102.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
教保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2102.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2105.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
甚至是機構的管理人 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2105.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
但是要重懲 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2109.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2109.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
包屁 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2112.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2114.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
甚至是協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2115.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2116.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
這樣子的相關責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2116.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2118.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
應該要加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2118.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2120.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
尤其現行制度對於涉案人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2120.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2121.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
在行政調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2121.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2122.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
刑事調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2122.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2124.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
或者是審判期間的職務處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2124.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2127.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
以及相關資訊的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2127.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2128.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2128.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2129.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
仍有漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2129.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2131.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
甚至可能讓涉案人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2131.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2132.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
利用資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2132.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
轉往其他的教保機構認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2137.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
讓更多的幼兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
整個風險之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
因此這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
教保服務人員條例修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
明確提出三個方向 |
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2145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
第一 |
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2146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2147.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
涉案教保人員 |
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2147.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
於行政調查犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
以及審判期間 |
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2151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
應暫時停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
停職或者是停止契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2158.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
第二 |
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2158.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
主管機關得收集 |
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2159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2160.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
查詢 |
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2160.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2164.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
以及利用相關涉案的資訊 |
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2164.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2166.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
建立示警的機制 |
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2166.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2167.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
第三 |
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2167.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2168.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2170.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
不依法通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2173.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
機構管理失職 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2173.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2175.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
甚至是隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2176.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
這樣子的法環 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
從這三個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
都指向了同一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
讓所有的制度都能夠更快的介入處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
讓負責的人能夠真正負起責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
2188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
真正能夠減少傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
發生的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
孩子沒有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2193.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2195.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
替自己發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
2195.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2197.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
所以我們更應該有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2198.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2200.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
讓這樣子的安全網 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2200.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2201.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
支得更加安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2201.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2202.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
對好人更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2202.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2204.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
對壞人更壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2204.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2207.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
是我們希望能夠檢討的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2207.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2208.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2211.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2212.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2221.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
提案說明完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2221.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2223.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
現在舉行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2224.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2226.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
張廖萬堅市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2228.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
報告時間8分鐘 |
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2230.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2231.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2231.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2232.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
各位女士先生大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2232.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
感謝各界對學權教育的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2237.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
今天大院教育及文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2237.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2240.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
召開審查教保服務人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2240.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
以下簡稱教保條例的修法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2243.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2246.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
本部應邀列席 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2246.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2248.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
並聆聽各位委員的寶貴意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2248.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
自感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2252.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
本部緊就委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2252.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2253.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
即棄案 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2253.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2255.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
做簡要的回應跟說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2255.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2257.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
進行各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2257.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2259.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
有關本部的回應說明方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2259.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2260.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
委員羅廷瑋等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2262.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
王玉敏等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
委員廖偉祥等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
及委員李彥秀等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2268.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
提案修正有關教保服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
之消極資格通報及暫時停病 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
等規定的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
那麼說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2278.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
教保條例的第12條第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
有關人員消極資格的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
與幼兒教育及照顧法以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
簡稱幼照法的第23條第24條內容一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
且依中央法規標準法第17條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2297.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
已經可以適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2297.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2300.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
112年8月16日修正公布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2300.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2302.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
性別平等教育法以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2302.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2304.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
簡稱性平法以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2304.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2306.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
性騷擾防治法規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2306.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
並無自愛 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2310.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
那麼基於兩法應該一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2310.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
所以建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2314.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
那麼第2 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2314.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2317.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
經重整各位委員相關的提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2317.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
均為修正性平法 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
原因的條次 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
那麼本部進表支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2324.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
那第3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2324.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
有關第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2328.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
教保服務人員之通報義務的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2328.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2330.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
那麼依現行規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2330.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2332.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
知悉教保服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2332.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2334.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
設有消極資格事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2336.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
的情形就需要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2336.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2338.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
不需要等到該行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2338.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2341.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
暫時停職或停聘的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2341.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2343.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
才需要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2343.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2344.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
考量到現行的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2344.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
已有處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2348.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
而且本條規定與 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2348.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2351.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
右照法的第26條內容相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2351.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
那麼基於兩法間一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
也是建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2356.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那麼第4 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2356.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
有關第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2359.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
通報及查詢的相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2364.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
那麼地方主管機關及教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2364.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
現行因通報及查詢相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
是否有消極資格的事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
實務上的執行並無疑義 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
那麼依照中央法規標準法第17條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
已經可以適用112年8月16日 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2380.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
修正公布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2380.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2382.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
性騷擾防治法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2383.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
性騷擾防治法規定並無致害 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2389.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
另查本條與右照法第27條內容相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2389.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2392.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
那麼基於兩法間一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2392.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2394.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
原建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2396.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2397.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那麼第5 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2397.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2400.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
有關第17條第3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2400.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
要徵訂犯罪偵查或審判期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2403.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
暫時停聘及直轄市縣市主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2410.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
對疑似行為人暫時停聘的相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2411.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
在犯罪偵查及審判期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2413.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2419.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
依現行規定及等同步行政調查及予以暫時停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2419.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2422.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
本部現行已有相關的機制處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2422.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2426.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
複查本項規定與右照法第28條第3項內容相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2426.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2429.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那麼也基於兩法間一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2429.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
原建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2432.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
那麼第6 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2432.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
有關第22條第31條第38條及第39條 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2442.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
提案修正原引性別平等工作法之條文名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2442.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
那麼本部進表支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2448.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
第7第43條第46條提高教保服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2448.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
違反通報義務法則及教保服務人員非屬情節重大之違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2457.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
對待幼兒案件法則的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2457.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2459.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
第 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2460.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2464.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
第43條規定與右照法第54條內容是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2464.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2466.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
那麼基於兩法間一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2466.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2468.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
所以建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2468.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2469.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
那麼第2 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2469.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2478.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
第46條第2項有關提高非屬情節重大之違法對待幼兒案件法則 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2478.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2483.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
將自情節重大與非屬情節重大的罰款額度重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2483.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2488.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
那麼複查本條規定與右照法第58條內容也相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2488.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2490.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
那麼基於兩法間的一語一字 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2490.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2492.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
原建議維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
那麼第2委員陳冠廷等16人提案增訂23條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
有關建立教保服務人員健康照護支持制度部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2511.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
職業安全衛生法就勞工健康保護事項業有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2511.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2515.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
那麼教保服務機構均應依職安法規定來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2515.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2517.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
現行有相關的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2517.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
又本部國教署也訂有補助要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
以支持各職轄市縣市政府建立諮商輔導支持系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
並以納入教保服務人員為對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2531.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
那麼原建議免增訂相關的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2535.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
那麼第3委員林月琴等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2535.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2538.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
委員林月琴等28人提案第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2538.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2544.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
有關明定提供資料及刪除認定委員會委員之其他服務人員代表的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2544.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2545.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2545.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2549.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
1有關明定職轄市縣市主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2549.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
與法定代理人或實際照顧者申請調查相關資料的時候應該提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2555.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2557.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
本部的進表支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2557.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2562.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
那麼第2有關刪除認定委員會之其他服務人員代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2562.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2565.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
為了確保認定委員會之組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2565.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2568.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
韓國各相關領域之教保服務從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2568.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2572.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
以確保其他服務人員之意見也能夠充分表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2572.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
又基於教保條例及右照法應遇一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2578.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
所以建議免於刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2579.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2582.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
最後特別感謝各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2582.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2585.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
關心教保服務人員於調查期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2585.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2587.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
流動至其他教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2587.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2588.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
為及時辦理通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2588.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2592.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
身心健康促進以及家長與調查期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2592.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2594.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
閱覽資料等等議題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2594.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
那麼本部會持續督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2600.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
地方政府確實依教保條例及相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2600.29 |
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2604.29 |
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辦理違法對待幼兒案件的調查及審議 |
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2604.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2608.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
那麼考慮到現行的條文相關的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2608.29 |
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2610.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
以及行政規則 |
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2610.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2611.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
也有相關的規範 |
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2611.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
本部會持續來收集地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2615.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
以及各界的意見 |
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2615.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2619.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
滾動檢討相關的制度以及配套的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2619.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2623.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
以維護幼生安全及教保服務人員的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2623.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2624.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
那麼以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2624.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2625.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
敬請各位委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2625.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2626.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2630.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2632.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
現在 |
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2636.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2638.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
謝謝市長的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2638.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2640.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
其餘提出書面報告機關代表 |
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2640.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2642.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
除書面外有五口頭補充報告 |
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2645.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
機關代表報告完畢 |
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2646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2649.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
相關書面資料請各位參閱並列入公報記錄 |
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2649.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2650.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
現在進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2652.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2655.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
剛剛有跟委員討論過 |
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2655.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2658.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
巡達完畢後我們會進行足條審查 |
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2658.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
足條時間仍然可以發表討論的相關意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
所以現在每位出席委員質詢四分鐘 |
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2667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2670.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
列席的委員質詢三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2670.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
唯有無意見 |
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2675.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2676.19 |
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好有委員說很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2676.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2678.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
OK那我們均不再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2678.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
發言登記時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2684.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
院資委員以你跟我的交情 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2690.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
你要講四百分鐘我都會站著 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2695.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2697.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
好院資委員還是你掉到最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2697.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2698.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
然後講四百分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2700.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2702.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
盡量抓一下時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2702.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2704.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
因為我們後面足條還是可以讓大家審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2704.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2705.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
我們現在都很 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2707.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2708.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
很隨性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2708.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2710.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
大家都一定會配合你 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2711.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2713.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
發言登記截止時間下午三點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2716.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2717.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
委員如果有臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2717.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2719.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
請於下午三點半之前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2720.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2722.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
並與法案審查完畢後再行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2724.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2725.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2727.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
若提案委員不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
慣例我們是不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2733.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
首先請第一位登記的院資委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2738.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2740.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
主席好麻煩請教育部次長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2742.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2743.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那個我想一開始我還是先來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
老師的問題因為馬上開學再職 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
那教育部有一支在努力解決這個問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2756.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
有嗎 |
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2756.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
我們每個禮拜都跟縣市政府主管聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
都有對 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
那你們的數字我現在我不知道說 |
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2762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
你們數字當然是在逐漸的縮小當中 |
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2765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
就是說老師是有數字逐漸縮小當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
但這個數字到底是你有補到老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2771.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
還是說因為學校已經找到人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2773.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
那個不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
學校的人力的部分是他有可能會請 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
就是正式的老師去補那些終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
然後他補了之後他當然就少缺一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
你的狀況是多找到人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
還是說找到人補那些終點是哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2787.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2791.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
其實在開學前那個數字都不斷的在滾動 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2791.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2794.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
所以我們的那個國家署這邊都會每個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2794.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
現在幾乎每天都會跟地方政府聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2797.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
就是說他們可能有 |
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2799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2800.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
要給他一家是考上正式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2800.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
然後他又出缺了他不斷滾動在招 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2803.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
那去年到昨天為止8月25號 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2807.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
我們現在是目前各縣市政府統計通報的是缺614 |
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2814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
614裡面國小是211 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
國中是403 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2823.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
那去年同期的這個時候是缺1429 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2823.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
市長我提醒一下 |
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2824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
因為我是有聽到有一些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
你們減少原因是因為找正式老師去補 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2831.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2833.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
當然我們都鼓勵地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2833.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2835.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
正式老師操縱點的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2835.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
有一些老師其實現在都還在猶豫 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2841.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
想說接了那麼多的課是不是乾脆丟價單 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2841.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
就是留職停薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
也有這種的 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2847.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
所以你的數字如果一直要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2847.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2849.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
學校裡面的老師去操縱點的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2849.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
會出現我這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2850.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
他可能會連原本可以上的課都更少 |
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2853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
這個我提醒好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
然後第二個就是 |
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2857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2859.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
現在我看到很多學校也都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2859.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2861.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
要去找退休老師回來兼課 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2861.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2864.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
但退休老師回來兼課就會遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2864.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2865.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
我之前曾經我有個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2865.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2867.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
我跟羅廷瑋我們有個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2867.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2868.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
其實那時候我們是想要解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2868.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2869.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
缺老師的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2869.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
那因為退休老師他回來要兼課 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2875.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
第一個他有的是兼課有上限是9個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2875.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2879.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
那如果他們要回來去兼一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2879.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2881.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
比如說創新人力或代理教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2881.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2883.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
就是每個領略薪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2883.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2884.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
他會遇到一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2884.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2887.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
會超過他在就業的薪資上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2887.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2889.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
因為退休老師回來上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2889.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2893.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
他的在就業薪資上限是最低薪資29500 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2893.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2896.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
所以當時我沒有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2896.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2899.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
就是說為了要解決校園人力不足的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2899.36 |
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2901.36 |
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所以希望是不是可以把這個 |
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在就業的天花門把它打開 |
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至少可以成為一個擊佔力 |
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所以現在很多學校都拜託退休老師回來 |
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結果那時候民進黨立委就罵我們 |
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2912.36 |
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說我們是要養雙薪肥貓 |
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我們不想服氣 |
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因為我們是要解決校園的問題 |
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養肥貓也是民進黨在養 |
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2918.36 |
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我又不是執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2919.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
我養什麼肥貓 |
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| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2923.36 |
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那現在我們確實就面臨到這個狀況 |
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2925.36 |
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我現在秀幾個簡訊給你看 |
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像這個人就說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
這個簡訊他就說他是均值退伍 |
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| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
住高雄旗山 |
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| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2931.36 |
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還不是我這一區的 |
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他說他本來想去一個學校應徵 |
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2936.36 |
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那學校已經三招了 |
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可是因為他的也是停縫標準的問題 |
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所以他就沒有辦法去應聘 |
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2943.36 |
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還有其實不止很多 |
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2945.36 |
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還有像這個他就是說 |
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| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
這個人他是想要去甄選 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2949.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
教育局的充實行政能力計畫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2952.36 |
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但是依照規定這個充實能力計畫 |
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因為是超過38,130 |
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2955.36 |
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所以他也沒有辦法應徵 |
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所以你把軍公教 |
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| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2960.36 |
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他的在就業的薪資的天花板打開 |
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| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
實際上是可以擴充能力的 |
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2962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
那這個當然絕對不是養雙薪肥貓 |
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2966.36 |
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這個我可以問次長 |
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次長請問一下 |
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2969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
他們這些軍公教願意回來幫忙 |
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2969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
多兼幾堂課是很涼的缺嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2974.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
如果在學校是這麼涼的缺 |
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2974.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
為什麼大家不想當老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2978.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
我想我們其實也有在研議 |
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2978.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
就怎麼樣子能夠讓再回到學校的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
你們來提個板子 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2986.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
外界也會質疑說我雙薪的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2986.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
但是我們有一些規定是人事總署規定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
他最高不得零過多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
次長 |
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2992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2994.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
這個細節我請次長來跟你說 |
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2994.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
次長 |
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2995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
這個他們回來幫 |
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2996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
這個就是回來幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2998.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
很多是被拜託回來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
這是一個爽缺嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
3000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
是一個肥貓缺嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3003.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
是拜託回來的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3003.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3005.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
大家很務實的討論問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
3005.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3007.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
但是很多東西是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3009.36 |
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在野黨提的就是先罵再講 |
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| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3011.36 |
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所以我希望說你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
3011.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3013.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
教育部如果想要擴充這個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3013.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3015.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
你們提一個版本出來我們來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3015.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3017.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
就不會流入這種口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3017.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3019.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我們想解決問題被扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
3019.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
其實我們被外界講說去年的代理教室是亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
到開學前還缺很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3026.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
所以我們今年特別重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3026.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
所以今年剩下六百多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
3028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
整個教室的 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3030.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
那個 |
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3030.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3032.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
你這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3032.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
我想可能很多老師 |
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3034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
會覺得很好笑 |
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3036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
因為現在教育環境是越來越惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
現在教育環境是越來越惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
越來越多人不想當老師 |
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3043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
結果你說你現在做得很棒 |
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3044.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
我沒有說做得很棒 |
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3046.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
我沒有說做得很棒 |
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3047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3048.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
我是具體建議好不好 |
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3048.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3049.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
第一個你針對 |
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3049.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
因為現在很多學校都在請推教老師回來幫忙 |
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3052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3054.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
你針對剛剛我講的 |
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3054.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
在就業的新制天花板 |
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3055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
你提一個我們來討論 |
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3057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3058.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
我們是有提啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3058.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
但是被罵說要養雙星肥貓 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3062.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
那些老師被污名化說是肥貓 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3062.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
那我們也於心不忍 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
為什麼他們回來幫忙被污名化成肥貓 |
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3066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那請教一部題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3067.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3068.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
我們來解決 |
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3068.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3070.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
我們來解決校園的問題嘛好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3070.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3072.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
然後再來就是 |
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3072.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
缺老師一個很關鍵的就是校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
那時候 |
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3075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3078.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
我們有把那個校事會議辦法退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3078.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3080.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
請你們在兩個月之內重新修訂送來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3080.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
那現在進度怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3082.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3084.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
我們也已經在研議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3084.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3086.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
那程序上我們是請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3086.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3088.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3088.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3090.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
當時有跟委員報告兩個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3090.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3093.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
一個面向是修那個辦法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3093.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3095.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
一個面向是四個配套措施 |
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3095.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3097.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
四個配套措施已經在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3097.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3099.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
那另外修辦法的部分 |
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3099.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3101.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
現在我們慢慢會研議主草案 |
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3101.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3103.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
然後跟相關的教師組織 |
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3103.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3104.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
教師組織 |
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3104.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3105.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3105.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3106.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
家長組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3106.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
還有校長組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3108.25 |
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以及地方政府 |
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3108.25 |
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3109.25 |
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四個團體 |
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3109.25 |
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3110.25 |
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大家一起來共商 |
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3110.25 |
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3111.25 |
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兩個月一定要送來 |
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3111.25 |
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3112.25 |
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一定 |
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3112.25 |
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3114.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
你保證會送一個更好的版本過來 |
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3114.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3115.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
好不好 |
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3115.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3116.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
一起跟委員這邊配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3116.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3118.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
OK然後再來喔 |
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3118.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3119.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
你看喔 |
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3120.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3121.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
市長你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3121.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
現在你們都在開那個校長會議嘛 |
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3123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3125.69 |
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國中高中 |
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3125.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
然後校長會議聚焦AI啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
政經要育培養 |
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3129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3130.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
獨立思考能力 |
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3130.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3132.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
對我覺得AI也蠻棒的 |
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3132.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
討論這個也很不錯 |
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3133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3135.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
可是現在其實 |
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3135.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
不管是高中國中國小的校長 |
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3137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
都在每天都在煩惱崔老師 |
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3139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
結果你在這種校長會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3142.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
你不討論這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3142.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
只討論AI |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3144.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
我沒有說不要討論AI |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3144.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
AI也很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
結果你們根本連崔老師的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3148.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
都沒有討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3148.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
所以你說你們都一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3150.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
很積極在解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3150.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3152.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
我也是覺得很怪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3152.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
我希望說你們真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
這個事情大家都很憂心 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3157.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
我們常常在面對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3157.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3158.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3158.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3159.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
沒有說不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3159.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3160.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
OK好再來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3160.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3161.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
這個公立幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3161.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3163.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
我反映兩件事好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3163.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3165.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
第一個就是因為教育部8月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3165.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3167.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
有修正公立幼兒園的 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3167.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3168.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
這個延長照顧規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3168.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3170.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
結果蠻多教保員 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3170.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3172.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
有些教保員跟我們反映 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3172.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3173.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
就是因為現在你 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3173.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3174.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
他等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3174.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3176.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
要讓孩子待到7點 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3176.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3178.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
當然教育部這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3179.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3180.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
利益良善 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3180.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3181.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
他是想要解決一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3181.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3184.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
爸媽小朋友的一些托育問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3184.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3186.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
但是這個如果配套沒有做好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3186.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3188.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
他衍生的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3188.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3190.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
那這些教保員他也是有家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3190.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3192.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
那他們怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3192.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3194.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
他們變成說照顧別人的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3194.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3196.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
等一下我還沒講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3196.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3198.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
那我有去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3198.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3201.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
那現在幼兒園大概實際這樣做法怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3201.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3204.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那當然可以先外聘人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3204.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3206.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
來補這個多的小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3206.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3208.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
但是如果說補不到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3208.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3210.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
那就要有現有的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3210.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3212.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
直接去補 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3212.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3214.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
所以就會造成有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3214.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3216.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
那個又叫老師或者是教保員 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3216.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3219.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
他可能已經提早上班了 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3219.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3220.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
7點鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3220.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3222.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
也是配合家長的托育 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3222.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3223.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
7點鐘上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3223.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3225.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
然後晚上可能會延到7點 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3225.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3227.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
就會造成這個上班時間很長 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3227.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3229.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
沒有辦法照顧自己家庭的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3229.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3231.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
那這個配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3231.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3233.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
這個教育部有任何的辦法出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3233.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3236.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
有 我們在113年7月起 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3236.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3238.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
就是依各員的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3238.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3240.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
因為沒有強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3240.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3243.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
那至少補助家自照顧服務人員跟人事費 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3243.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3247.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
所以115學員度一共核定了637元 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3247.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3249.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
有682人增加人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3249.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3251.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
這是外加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3251.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3253.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
那其中有41元是補助2人 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3253.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3255.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
有2個元是補助3人 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3255.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3259.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
那麼所有的補的人員都必須要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3259.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3261.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
這個沿拖照顧服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3261.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3263.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
我現在講的是你們今年8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3263.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3265.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
對 今年9月起 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3265.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3268.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
提高第三小時終點費補助500元 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3268.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3271.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
那也是鼓勵友誼提供第三小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3271.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3273.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
所以沒有強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3273.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3275.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
並非要求各員軍需配合辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3275.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3277.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
所以就是要去宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3277.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3279.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
各員自己的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3279.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3281.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
那你可能要跟公立友人宣導一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3281.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3283.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
因為跟我們反應都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3283.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3287.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
老師會擔心說是不是會被強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3287.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3289.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
對 如果有需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3289.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3290.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
然後人力又不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3290.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3292.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
那當然我們可以來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3292.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3294.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
看一下怎麼樣來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3294.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3295.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
再來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3295.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3297.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
因為之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3297.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3300.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
當然教育部有針對國小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3300.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
這個行政人員跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3304.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
有發行政獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3304.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3308.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
後來有延伸到幼兒園的正式的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3308.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3311.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
但是教保員這一塊就被忽略了 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3311.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3313.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
那我只有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3313.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3316.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
115年4月23號教育部是有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3316.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3318.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
就是全國的幼教產業工會有開過會 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3318.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3320.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
就是說會朝向 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3320.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3322.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
一致的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3322.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3325.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
跟幼兒園的老師一致的方向 |
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3325.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3328.69 |
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那請問那是4月份的時候講的 |
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3328.69 |
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3330.69 |
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那很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3330.82 |
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3331.82 |
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教保員在問啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3334.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
那請問一下這個延議到什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3334.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3336.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
我來請署長跟你回應喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3337.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3339.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
簡泰哥委員報告 |
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3339.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3342.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
考績的部分因為涉及到整體公教 |
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3342.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3345.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
跟那個這個勞基法的這個適用 |
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3345.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3347.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我們用加薪的方式幫他處理 |
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3347.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
加薪的方式 |
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3348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3349.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
加薪到什麼時候 |
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3349.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3351.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
加薪在今年就會處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3351.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3352.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
今年 |
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3352.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3354.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
今年就已經確定馬上就可以加 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3354.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3355.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
馬上就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3355.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3356.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3356.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
用加薪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3358.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
從幾月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3360.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3362.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
我們配合修法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3362.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3364.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
我剛才跟委員報告的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3364.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3367.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
我們用加薪的方式讓他實質得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3367.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3368.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
這幾月開始 |
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3368.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3369.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
這個實質得到的 |
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3369.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3371.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
4月開始延議到底要延議多久 |
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3371.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3372.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
你幾月開始幫人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3372.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3374.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
因為這會涉及到修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3374.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3376.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
過程不用講了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3376.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
因為幾月開始講一個答案就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
幾月開始 |
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3380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
我們會先修法而且會回溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3383.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
幾月開始 |
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3383.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
會回溯是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
回溯到幾什麼時候 |
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3385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3386.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
8月1號 |
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3386.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
回溯到8月1號是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3389.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
就是115學年 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3389.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
對當時我們有答應說 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3392.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
115學年 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3392.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3393.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
OK謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3396.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
好謝謝院子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
下一位蔡村莊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3414.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3415.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3415.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3417.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
有請詹廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3417.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3418.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3421.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3422.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3422.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3423.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3423.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3425.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
今天要跟你談 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3427.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3430.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
相關幼兒內兒的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3430.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3433.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
談起來就非常的沉重 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3433.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3435.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
因為我們目前是 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3435.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3437.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
少子化的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3437.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3438.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
所以孩子對我們來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3438.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3441.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
每一個都是寶貝 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3441.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3444.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
那孩子也是我們國家的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3444.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
所以對孩子的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3449.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
給孩子的一些福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3449.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3450.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
我覺得我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3450.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3452.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
都是要前逸已復 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3452.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3453.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
那在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3453.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
就是要跟次長來交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
有關於幼兒園的一個監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3464.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
一個保存的一個天數 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3464.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3465.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
那現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3465.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3468.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
Bank成是有一國兩制的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3468.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3469.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3469.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3473.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
他是要求保存30天 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3473.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3476.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
那高雄則是14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3476.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
那新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
原本他是14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
那今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
他也修正為30天 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
我覺得各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
各自來訂這個監視器的天數 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3491.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
保存的天數 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3491.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
我覺得這個是必要來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3497.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
我們是不是能夠由教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3497.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3500.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
來統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3501.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3503.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3502.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3504.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
規定一個保存的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3504.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3507.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
期間有同一個月時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3507.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3511.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
請次長你表示一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3511.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3515.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
我們在那個114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3515.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
10月29號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
有訂定一個注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3520.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
那他當時是規定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3520.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
我們是會協助地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3526.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
來處理民眾申請調閱監視系統的影音資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3526.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
那是屬於行政指導性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3530.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
那當時的規定是14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3530.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3531.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
指導性 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3531.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3533.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
但是問題是14天就出發 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3533.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
變成有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3537.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
要去調的時候已經被 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3537.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3539.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
就是說期間已經過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3539.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3540.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
那有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3540.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3542.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
因為小孩子的表達能力不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3542.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
或者是說發現的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
已經是兩個禮拜以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3547.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
那兩個禮拜以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3547.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3549.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
你在啟動要去調查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3549.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3551.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
這些證據就沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3551.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3553.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
所以我們現在目前我們要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3553.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
實際上的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3556.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
我們要去解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3556.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3558.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
那個詳細的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3558.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3559.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
因為那是屬於主導原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3559.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3561.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
詳細的內容我們是請那個處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
其實委員講這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
我們也有關心到 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
那就是怎麼樣可以符合到 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3568.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
原來沒有訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3570.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
到現在有訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
各縣市各縣都能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
目前是14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
這個是在114年局長會議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3578.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
大家覺得要訂 |
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3578.04 |
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3579.04 |
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那我們訂了之後 |
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3579.04 |
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3581.04 |
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大概目前運作還沒有問題 |
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3581.04 |
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3583.04 |
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剛才您看到有些縣市 |
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3583.04 |
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3585.04 |
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他覺得可以再加長 |
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3585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
以備完成剛才委員擔心的事項的防備 |
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3588.04 |
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3590.04 |
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那個我們尊重 |
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3590.04 |
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3592.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
但是有沒有可以繼續檢討 |
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3592.04 |
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3594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
大家全國一致延長 |
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3594.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
這個我們會納入一陣子 |
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3596.04 |
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3598.04 |
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我們施行半年之後 |
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3598.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3600.04 |
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大概都會再持續檢討 |
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3600.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
我希望能夠真的確實 |
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3604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
來做一個先行檢討 |
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3606.04 |
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3608.04 |
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因為有一些家長 |
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3608.04 |
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3610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
事實上都有到我們黨部來做一個申訴 |
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3610.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3614.04 |
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那我們現在我們把民意反映給我們交易部 |
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3614.04 |
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3616.04 |
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那我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3619.04 |
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本黨也希望說能夠把這個期限 |
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3619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3620.04 |
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延長到30天 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3622.04 |
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那30天對於以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3622.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
孩子真的有發生事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3625.04 |
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要去追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
比較有彈性 |
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3628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3633.04 |
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我們就請國家署再跟地方縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
跟他們來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3636.04 |
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是不是一同延遲到30天 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
所以我們剛剛就講到這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3642.04 |
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所以我們現在要提出的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3642.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
有一些在要證據的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3645.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
他會告訴我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3646.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
已經檔案不在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
或者是設備故障了 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
或者是自然消失了 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3651.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
像這些有一些是有意 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
要把這個證據毀滅掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3657.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
交易部你們有什麼配套的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
來防止這樣的事件發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3663.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
這個有相關的處理 |
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3666.43 |
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3667.43 |
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我們都要想好 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3667.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
有一些漏洞我們都必須要把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3671.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
一併想好 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3671.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3672.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3672.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3673.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3674.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3677.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我們認定委員會工作的實務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3677.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
我們訂了一本這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3682.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
委員剛剛所提的這個問題 |
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3684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3687.7 |
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我們都如實的跟縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3687.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
算是說明甚至一個指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3691.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3691.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
是啊 如果沒有符 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3693.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
有沒有做到呢 |
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3693.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
在工作的實務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3698.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
審查在認定的這個過程中 |
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3698.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
他們會對故意與否 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
做滿完善的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
這個調查所影響的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
是滿公正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
這個公正進到裁罰的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3710.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
是會讓員 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3710.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
有時候他會進到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3713.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
如果他是故意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3713.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
他會進到減班 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
甚至被廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3718.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
所以他是非常的嚴重的後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3718.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
那我想委員這個提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
我們會持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
目前看起來 |
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3722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3724.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
我們一年接近到 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3724.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
六百多個案子裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
目前還沒有傳出這樣的案子 |
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3727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3728.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
但是我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3728.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
他在調查實務上是有必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
所以以上委員的提醒 |
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3731.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3732.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
兩點 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3732.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3734.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
一個是監視器的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3734.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3736.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
一個是在故意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3736.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
我們的認定上 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3738.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我們會注意 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3738.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
對 對 |
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3739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3741.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
這個保護小孩子 |
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3741.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3742.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
這個我們一定是 |
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3742.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3744.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
一不容辭一定要做到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3744.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3745.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
好 再來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3745.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3747.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
最後一題來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3747.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3751.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
就是因為我們的公用 |
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3751.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3757.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
要延長到從四點到七點 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3757.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3759.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
本來是延長兩個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3759.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3760.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
現在延長到三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3760.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3762.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
這個剛剛游委員也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3762.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3764.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
那在這裡呢 |
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3764.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3767.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
我要請教一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3769.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
小孩子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3769.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3771.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
延長這三個小時 |
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3771.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
他沒有辦法 |
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3772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
收下來寫字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
讀書啊什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3775.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3777.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
這個三個小時的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3777.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
課程的一個配套 |
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3778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
是有沒有做一個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3782.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
延拖時間是以照顧為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3782.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3784.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
那那個配套 |
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3784.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3786.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
照顧的內容是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3789.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
跟委員報告 |
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3789.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
照顧的內容 |
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3790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
除了我們的照顧的範圍 |
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3792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
還有連結課綱 |
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3794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
幼教的這個課綱整體 |
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3796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3797.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
就幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3797.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3799.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
他不進行教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3799.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
他是以照顧為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3803.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
其他的相關的活動規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3803.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
可以讓他更有 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3805.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
不會像委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3805.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3807.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
只是靜態的坐著 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3807.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3809.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
這個在我們幼教的專業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3809.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
在我們相關的13項的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
訓練中都有包含 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
好 那我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
給小孩一個非常完善的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
那當然這個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
我們也希望對於小孩的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3826.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
是有幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3826.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
好 最後我要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
因為這個孩子從早上7點 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
一直到晚上7點 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
等於有大概12個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
都在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
那對於這樣親子的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
親子的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
變成會有一種疏離的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3842.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
那孩子的安全感 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3842.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
來自於雙親的陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3846.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3846.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
有沒有想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
這個是不是也是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
讓我們很擔心的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3853.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
這個我們當然也會注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3853.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3855.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
這個類似的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3855.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
也會提醒我們幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
如果有個別的家庭的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3859.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
都是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3859.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3861.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
那當然我們會提醒他 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3861.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3863.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
那個親子教育的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3863.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3865.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
那多留一點時間給孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3865.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3867.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
那有時候這種沿拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3867.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3869.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
大概很多是那種臨時性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3869.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3871.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
他不是每天都這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3871.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
所以說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
我們也會將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3878.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
在跟各縣市的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3878.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
那個業務會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
我們會提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
我們希望就是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3884.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
訂了一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3884.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
需要的我們就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3888.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
不需要的還是父母親來陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3888.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3890.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
好 那今天對於這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3890.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3892.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
一個延長教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3892.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3894.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
我們還是利益良善 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3894.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3896.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
我們是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3896.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
那我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
這樣的一個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3900.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
能夠切實來做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3900.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3903.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3902.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3903.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3904.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3905.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
下一位武力化委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3911.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3912.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3912.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3913.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3917.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3918.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3918.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3919.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3919.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3920.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
前面兩位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3920.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3922.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
同樣都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3922.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3925.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
你們宣布的一個公用 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3926.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
辦理延長照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3928.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
服務作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3928.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
新的一個辦法上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
那大家就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3934.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
接到很多的澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3934.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3936.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
因為剛才前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3936.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
你們都有答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3938.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
我就直接講 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3938.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3939.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
是這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3939.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3940.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
我們都很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3940.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3941.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
學校的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3942.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
就是你有這個辦法出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3946.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
雖然沒有強迫實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3946.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3949.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
但是家長就會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3949.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3950.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
既然有這個辦法可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3950.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3952.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
他一定會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3952.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3954.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
他也一定會要用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3954.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3956.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
這是人之常情 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3957.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3959.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
那加上學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3959.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
也沒有辦法拒絕的狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3963.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
很多的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3963.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3966.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
又調度不到人力之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3966.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
公立幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
您也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3970.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
很多偏鄉就那麼幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3970.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
也許就兩位三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
所以這個會變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
他們很恐慌的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
所以我想了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
就是我們實施這個新制 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3983.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
它是來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3983.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3985.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
什麼樣的一個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3985.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
各位包刮 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
當然是因為家長的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
因為現在工商產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3991.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
都不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3991.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
有的他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3993.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
工作是早上休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3993.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
他到晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3995.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
那當然有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3995.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3997.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
家長會希望沿途 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3997.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3999.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
但是沿途還有跟靈托 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3999.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
也有重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4001.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
譬如說家長剛好有事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4001.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
那段時間有事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4003.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
他剛好就放在幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4003.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4005.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
我想都會地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4005.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4007.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
恐怕比較少這個困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4007.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
他調度的要人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
我們沿途基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
採用鼓勵的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
還有一些配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
譬如說人力的補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
或者是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
但是你有制度出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
家長一定會想要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4021.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
學校也不敢拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4021.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
所以剛才委員也有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4023.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
如果是因為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4023.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
負擔又便宜又方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
那是不是家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4029.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
就把孩子全部都放在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4029.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4031.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
而且只要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4031.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
家長提出需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
就算一個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
都必須要有老師留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
那我覺得老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4039.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
也不是不願意留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4039.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
而是幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4041.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
我們都很清楚知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4042.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4043.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
其實幼兒園的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4043.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
國小的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4047.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
很多都是不到7點就到校 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4047.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4049.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
幾乎都是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4049.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4051.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
因為只要有學生進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4051.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
老師就要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
因為要開門要陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
那現在這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
門一開 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
那大家都必須一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4061.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
會碰到的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4061.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4063.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
只要有一位家長提出要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4063.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4065.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
我們就要留到7點 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4065.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
然後找不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4068.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
學校也很困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4068.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4069.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
這個該怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4069.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4070.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4070.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4071.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
要趕快想 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4071.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4072.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
我們沒有那麼強制說 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4072.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4074.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
有一個人就一定要開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4074.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4076.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
所以說第一個他當然有那個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4076.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4077.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
有需要學校會去盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4077.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4079.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
他的人力需不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4079.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4082.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
那他的空間適不適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4082.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4083.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
那也會跟家長回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4083.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4085.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
如果說有一定的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4085.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4088.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
那當然學校他可能去服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4088.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4089.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
他可能會去來開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4089.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4090.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
那我們已經提過說 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4090.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
我們開辦的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4092.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我們也會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4092.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
同步的人力的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
那請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4098.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
那教保員有沒有拒絕加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4098.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
當然可以拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
那拒絕加班家長又要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4104.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4105.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
來 等我們細節來 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4108.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4108.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
委員 剛剛幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4112.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
剛好我最近就都會地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4112.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4113.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
就了解這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4113.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4116.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
以及到復興鄉去了解這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4116.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4117.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
那我把這個整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4117.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
讓委員也知道一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4120.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
那基本上都會地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4120.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
他可能雙親都去工作的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
的確會有這方面的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4127.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
那這樣的一個員 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4127.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4128.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
他在工作的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4128.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4131.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
他不是只有原來的幼教工作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4131.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4134.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
他可以是沿拖的不可資格者 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4134.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4135.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
所以是額外的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4135.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4137.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
不是原來教學者而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4137.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4139.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
所以額外的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4139.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4140.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
那當然有需要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4140.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4143.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
另外我去抽一些比較偏鄉地區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4143.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4145.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
實務上我請教幾位校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4145.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4147.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
這個會不會造成他壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4147.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4149.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
有一些地方基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4149.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4150.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
他是沒有這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4150.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
沒有這個需求他也不會開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
那他也沒有符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4154.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4157.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
相關的一定的什麼要求的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4157.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4159.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
我查一查地方政府也不會訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4159.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
所以從中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
都不會有強制要求的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4164.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
我擔心的有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4164.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4167.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
他到滿自然的一需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4167.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
那至於會不會因為有一個家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4170.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
特別要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4170.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4171.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
以至於原來不用辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4171.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4172.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
卻要辦等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4172.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4175.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
這個可能地方政府跟縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4175.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
在相關的縣市政府跟地方的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4179.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
在協調的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4179.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4181.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
如果有類似的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4181.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4183.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
我們會積極的了解他實際的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4183.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4186.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
來服以相關法規的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4186.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4187.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
我只是要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4187.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4190.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
就是有這樣的一個壓力存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4190.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4192.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
很多的老師校長現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4192.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4194.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
感到很有壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4194.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
因為要加班到七點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4199.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
說實在要拜託老師也不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4199.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4202.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
那老師不配合他也很為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4202.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4204.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
所以我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4204.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4207.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
中央一定要去建構一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4207.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4209.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
人力支援的一個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4209.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4210.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
我們會再進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4210.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
這個是中央在訂定這個辦法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4214.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
就必須要想到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4214.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4216.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
就應該要做因應措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4217.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4220.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
最後我想時間也到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4220.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
我只是要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4224.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
因為我不太想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4224.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
校事會議 |
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4225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
因為講這四個字有點太沉重 |
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4227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4230.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
而且已經變成一個形容詞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4230.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4234.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
所以這個教師解聘不續聘 |
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4234.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
這個停聘的這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
我想我們都已經知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4243.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
整個會期都在關注這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4243.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4245.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
事實上上一次也已經做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4245.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4246.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
退回更正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4246.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4248.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
可是教育部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4248.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
我們還有一個承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4252.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
就是九月你們會端出新的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4252.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4255.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
因為這是本會期的最後一次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4255.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4257.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
那九月也要到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4257.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4260.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
我只是想要讓次長署長了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4260.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
其實我們自己接到這樣的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4264.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
真不少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4264.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4266.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
那上個禮拜六 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4266.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4268.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
你看一下這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4268.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4269.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
不斷跟我對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4269.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4271.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
我一直不願意拿出來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4271.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4273.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
這是我跟他陸陸續續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4273.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4275.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
我一直在給他加油打氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4275.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4276.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們也不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4276.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4279.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
拿這種事情好像變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4279.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4281.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
要去開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4281.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4283.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
或者是要來去賺流量等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4283.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4284.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
我們也不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4284.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4285.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4288.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4290.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我輔導他兩年多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
他禮拜六晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
他親生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4295.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
所以我非常的難過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4298.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4301.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
我從來沒有因為接到很多的陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4301.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
就特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4303.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
只是喊口號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4303.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4305.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
我們想的只是一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4306.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4309.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
我們怎麼樣讓這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4309.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4312.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
能夠沒有學生的憾事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4312.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4313.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
沒有老師的憾事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4313.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4317.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
我們希望他能夠變成一個保護老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4317.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4320.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
也保護學生的一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4320.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4322.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
但是這個老師很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4322.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4323.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
兩年多來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4323.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4325.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
他因為被停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4325.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4328.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
他好不容易努力了十年考上了教職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
我也不願意去表示什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
因為我只是找 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
希望他找個律師陪伴他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
他即便勝訴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4340.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
又再次的被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4340.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
開始調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
所以他覺得他不願意再第二次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4345.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
面對這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4345.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4346.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
這個壓力很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4346.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4347.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
他有房貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4347.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4348.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
他有車貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4348.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4349.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
他有經濟的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4349.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4352.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
但是他承受不住就走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4352.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4355.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
所以我在這邊只是想要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4355.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
我們如何讓這部法變成一個能夠保護老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
保護學生的一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4362.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
請次長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4362.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4364.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
好 我想在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4364.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4366.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
在立法院再退回這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4366.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4368.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
叫我們再重新思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4368.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
其實我們在1月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4371.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
已經做一個初步大小案的分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4371.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4373.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
現在大家比較在意的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4373.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
那小案大案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
就是一定要涉及到解聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4380.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
到那個程度我們判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4380.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
才會進入那個校事會去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4382.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
其實我們在第一次分流之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4388.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
那個案件量已經明顯變少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4388.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4391.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
現在就是小案的時候進入考核的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4391.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
當時的考核辦法裡面是有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4397.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
可以有些學校的行政能力不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4397.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
那調查可以委外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
那時間可以再延後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
那這部分我們也在檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
另外就是說還有一個老師比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
希望能夠具體了解就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
我們合理管教的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
到底是在界定在什麼樣的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
誰來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
這部分我們也在思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
怎麼樣子讓學校能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4421.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
有一些空間能夠認定之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4421.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4423.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
能夠去決定受理跟不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4423.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4426.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
就是說就避免有一些主觀的認定上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4426.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4429.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
會讓家長不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4429.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4432.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
跟老師處於這種對峙的中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4432.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4434.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
那如果說學校的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4434.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
我們可以尊重的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4437.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
譬如說如果按照學校認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4437.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4439.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
但是一個合理的管教行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4439.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4441.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
那基本上就不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4441.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4443.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
不受理之後如果家長還有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4443.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4446.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
我想我們就另外再開一個管道方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4446.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4447.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
來出面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4447.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4449.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
這樣子可能會達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4449.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4451.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
我們目前在研議中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4451.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4452.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
好 謝謝市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4452.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4453.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
我再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4453.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4455.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
因為這是本會期最後一次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4455.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
那九月在即 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
對 我們會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
我只是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4461.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
當我們端出來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4461.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4464.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
他真的是能夠讓大家看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4464.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4467.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
我們過去所疑慮的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4467.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
都不要再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
我們遺憾的這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4472.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
都不要再發生 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4472.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4475.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我想一月那個有初步達到一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4475.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4477.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
那我們希望這一次大家覺得不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4477.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4478.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
那我們再去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4478.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4480.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
怎麼樣子在大家反應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4480.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4482.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
譬如說合理管教怎麼界定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4482.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4483.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
所以市長您承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4483.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4485.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
他可以成為一個保護老師的法律嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4485.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4486.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
我們就希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4486.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4487.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
你承諾嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4487.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4488.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
保護老師的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4488.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我們希望這個過程裡面能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
達到保護老師的一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
那謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4498.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4499.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
好 謝謝吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4499.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4501.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
下一位陳培鈺委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4508 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4509 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4509 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4511 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
那有請市長 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4511 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4512 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4515.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
好 市長時間有限了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4519.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
我想我就快速請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4519.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
因為最近這半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
其實從台北市也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
基隆市也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
其實都有相關幼兒園的虐兒案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
那不論是處理的速度好慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4531.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
快 好 對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4531.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
速度的快慢或是處理的結果好壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
其實大家都有很多自己的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4539.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
甚至相關受害孩童的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4539.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4541.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
都會說他們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4541.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
台北市政府跟基隆市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4545.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
都是輕輕放下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4545.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4547.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
甚至我們看到台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4547.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4548.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
或是基隆市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4548.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
甚至在某些時候的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4552.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
都還丟包給中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4552.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
說是這個中央法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4555.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
講很多這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4555.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4557.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
那我再舉一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4557.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4559.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
今天才有另外一個新的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4559.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4561.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
有媒體指出在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4561.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
有一個孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4565.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
他在家裡面好像疑似 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4565.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
受到媽媽同居人的性騷之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4568.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
然後孩子是被鄰居發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4570.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
然後才去報案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
這個案情才被發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
那結果台北市的副市長林毅華就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4578.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
我們一切都按照中央法規的辦理這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4578.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4581.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
有好事的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4581.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4583.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
他們覺得表現好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4583.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
都是他們自己做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4585.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
如果被人家罵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4585.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4587.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
被市民反抗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4587.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4589.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
反應的 抗議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4589.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
說做得不夠好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
他們就都丟包給中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4594.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
我們可不可以就今天要修法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4594.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4597.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
或者是整個關於兒少寶的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4597.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4599.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
屬於教育部專屬的這些法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4599.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4600.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4600.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4602.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
到底哪些歸中央哪些歸地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4602.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4605.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
我覺得市長要不要給你一些時間來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4605.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4606.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
讓大家比較搞得清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4606.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4608.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
不要到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4608.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
全部好康的都第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
所有都你們中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4614.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
來市長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4614.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4616.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
我想在那個委員我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4616.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4617.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
在上一屆的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4617.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4619.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
我們在112年3月1號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4619.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4621.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
就已經修正實行的右照法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4621.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4623.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
跟教保條例的一個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4623.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4625.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
訂定了一個教保相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4625.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4627.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
違法事件調查處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4627.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4628.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
我想那個處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4628.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4630.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
規定的非常清楚就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4630.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4633.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
如果教保服務機構發生了違法事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4633.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4635.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
要在24小時內通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4635.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4638.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
並由教育主管機關進行調查及認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4638.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4640.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
所以這個講得非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4640.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4642.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
一定是地方的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4642.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4645.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
那他們整個調查跟認定的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4645.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4647.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
其實也有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4647.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4650.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
那我想在裡面都規定的非常的細 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4650.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4653.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那我們也提供了相關的指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4653.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
給直轄市跟縣市主管機關來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4658.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
那第二個就是我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4658.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4660.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
地方政府能夠訂定年度稽查計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4660.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4662.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
來提高抽查的覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4662.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
那麼甚至用無預警的稽查為原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
必要的時候可以採跨單位的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4668.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
這就是在說什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4668.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
就是說我們雖然有事後的採法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4674.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
但是我們還是希望事前的管理比較重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4674.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4676.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
與其在事後講說額度要罰多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4676.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4677.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
罰的重不重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4677.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4678.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
你不如在事前的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4678.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4681.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
你如果有無預警的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4681.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4684.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
或者根據一些消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4684.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4686.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
或者通報跟檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4686.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
能夠採取類似的一個稽查行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4690.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
這個地方政府來做的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4690.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
我想能夠減少事後發生的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
那當然我們也會看地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4697.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
在幼兒園管理的需求上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4697.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4698.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
是不是有缺人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4698.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4702.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
是不是有缺一些相關的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4702.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4705.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
我們也許如果他們真的提出這番 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4705.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4708.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
我們也可以來透過計畫方式來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4708.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4712.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
另外就是地方政府除了即時要來啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4712.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4714.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
跨單位通報跟聯防機制外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4714.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4716.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
也要橫向的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4716.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4719.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
來針對具有高風險教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4719.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4721.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
來啟動專案追蹤列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4721.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4725.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
就是說你在發現有類似的通報的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4725.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4729.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
在處置上能夠積極橫向重向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4729.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4731.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
不要等到事情變大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4731.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4732.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
上了媒體的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4732.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4734.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
那才開始不斷的加重罰則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4734.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4738.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
我覺得這個可能是事後在處理上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4738.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4740.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
就比較容易引起外界的誤議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4740.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4742.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
最後我們也是希望地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4742.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4744.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
針對教保服務機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4744.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4747.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
如果有違反相關規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4748.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4750.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
我覺得市長講的非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4750.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4752.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
從相關的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4752.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4754.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
也就是中央的母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4754.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
然後到了地方我們還設出指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
讓地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4758.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
讓地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4758.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4762.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4762.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4764.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4764.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4766.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4766.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4770.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4770.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4776.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4776.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4778.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
然後到地方政府參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4778.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4780.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
所以從稽查也好或是裁罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4780.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4782.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
甚至是日常的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4784.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4786.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
對 我們那個覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4786.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4788.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
稽查的覆蓋率 抽查還有預警 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4788.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4790.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我想這個都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4790.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4792.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
都是在管理上面可以更積極一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4792.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4794.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
好 意思就是說其實這些法規都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4794.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4796.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
但是地方政府怎麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4796.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4798.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
或者會不會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4798.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4800.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
甚至是不要誤用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4800.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4801.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
或者是自己不敢用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4801.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4802.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
然後又丟包給中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4802.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
我覺得這真的是很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4806.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
我也希望今天在修法逐條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4805.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4807.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
我們不要落入這個陷阱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4807.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
我們可以來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
還有什麼需要可以來協助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
好 以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4815.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
因為今天時間有限 我就先問到這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4818.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4820.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4820.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4822.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4823.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4825.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4835.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4837.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
主席有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4841.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4843.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4843.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4845.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4844.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4846.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4846.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4848.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
本次修法的目的就是為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4848.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4850.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
要讓正因為涉案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4850.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4852.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
或立案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4852.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4854.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
教保人員能夠離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4854.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4856.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
可以接觸到的兒少的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4856.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4858.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
所以第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4858.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4860.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
第17條要求建置完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4860.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
涉案資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
第43條要加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
處罰沒有查證的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
但本席看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
現行的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
教育部的各教育場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
不適任人員通報及查詢系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
全國教保 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
服務機構不適任人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
不適任教育人員資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
社性別事件之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
不適任人員資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
短期補習班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
不適任人員資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
兒童課後照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
服務不適任人員資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
與衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
全國違反兒童及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
少年福利與權益保障法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
公告專區等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
請問教育部這麼多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
資料庫是否有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
橫向連通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
如果一名過去存在衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
系統被通報的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
在教育部的系統中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
是不是也會被註記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
他們之間是有界接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
跟我們教育相關的法規是有界接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
所以有嫁接嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
有連通嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
那我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4930.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
一個涉案人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4930.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
暫時離開可以接觸到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4934.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
兒少教育照顧場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4934.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4936.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
這是因為他涉及的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4936.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4938.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
也會讓其他的服務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4938.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4940.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
孩童的家長感到擔憂嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4940.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4942.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
所以系統必須要跨部會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4942.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
橫向連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4946.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
來建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4946.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4948.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
否則的話建置系統就變成流域形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4948.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4950.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
那我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4950.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4952.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
現行一間幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4952.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4954.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
根據教保人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4954.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4956.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
應該要從哪個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4956.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
進行教保人員的資格認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4960.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4962.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
請進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
資格認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
我剛講那麼多系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4967.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
要從哪個系統中去進行教保人員的資格認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4971.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4973.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
我們也不適任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4973.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4975.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
但沒有資格認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4975.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4977.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
委員剛才的意思可能是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4977.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4979.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
有一位不適任的我們在哪裡可以查到是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4979.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4981.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
應該這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4981.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4983.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
如果是透過教育部各教育場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4983.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4985.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
不適任人員通報及查詢系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4985.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4987.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
他是不是有辦法查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4987.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4989.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
教保人員條例第12條第13條第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4989.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4991.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
的因於解聘免職的相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4991.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4993.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
包括性騷擾性霸凌體罰學生或幼兒等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4993.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4995.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
的因於解聘免職的相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4995.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4997.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
的因於解聘免職的相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4997.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4999.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
包括性騷擾性霸凌體罰學生或幼兒等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4999.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5001.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
的因於解聘免職的相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5000.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5002.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5004.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
在我們禁用聘用的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5004.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5006.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
就要進行這樣的一個查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5006.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
這個查查在那個入口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
那個入口會去連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5012.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
剛剛你所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5012.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
有關部會相關的系統以及本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
各有關系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
大概是這樣所以查那個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5020.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
那個入口就可以完成查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5020.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
這樣啦我這樣再問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5024.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
現行教保人員服務條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5024.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5026.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
要求聘用機構因此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5026.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5028.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
仔細審查教保人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5028.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5030.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5030.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5032.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
要做好守門員的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5032.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5034.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
但是否有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5034.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5036.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
指示機構因透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5036.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5038.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
哪些政府建置的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5038.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5040.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
進行查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5040.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5042.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
幼兒園在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5042.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
所在招募人員的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5046.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
用一個系統能不能查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5046.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5048.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
該員全部兒少產育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5048.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5050.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
涉案紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5050.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
那部委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
這是可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
那這兩個剛剛委員的提問都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
一個是資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5059.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
資格在我們不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5059.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
學校或幼兒園他的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
我們大概教育人員都知道可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5065.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
他還有一個怕有漏網的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5065.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
叫不適任的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
符合資格但是他在這期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5070.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
是不適任所以在網站上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5070.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
我們會全部的平台拉在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
一起透過一個入口可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5076.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
查到全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5076.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5078.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
這邊就是要希望教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5078.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5080.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
因為通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5080.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
或是今天系統最大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5084.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
目的就是讓我們可以排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5084.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5086.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
這些不適任人員去接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5086.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5088.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
相關的教育場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5088.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
所以這一點我要覺得要落實質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5092.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
那另外我要想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5092.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5094.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
另外一個問題來就教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5094.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5096.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
老師面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5096.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5098.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
濫數霸凌被調查的恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5098.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5100.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
身心距離到離場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5100.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5102.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
甚至成為社會事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5102.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5104.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
這狀況也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5104.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5106.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
頻頻發生也衝擊我們教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
與學生的受教品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
所以我們現在推動改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
來守護教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
那6月24號我質詢您的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
您當場允諾我會朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
專章或專法來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
保障教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
並在一個月內聯誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
做出評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5127.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
我當時還對您表示肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5127.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5129.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
結果我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5129.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
這個次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5133.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5135.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
7月28號收到教育部的函文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5135.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5137.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
知道上面寫什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5140.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5142.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
我收到你們的函文啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5142.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
一個月內你們要給我函文啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5146.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
回答是什麼你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5148.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
考量現行法令規定已有明確規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5155.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
提供教師權益保障及申訴相關措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5155.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
暫不訂定教師法增設教權專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
或制定教權保護專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5162.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
我們放一段影片來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5162.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5164.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
次長之前的質詢是怎麼說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5166.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5169.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
韓國2023年他們提出了一個對策性的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5169.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5172.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
教師地位提升跟教育活動保護的特別法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5172.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5174.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
教育部打算要來參照推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5174.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5176.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
教師法裡面其實可以來修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5176.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
我們其實在公聽會的時候有收集到很多老師建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5180.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
他說其實我們常常講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5181.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5183.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
那個授權執法然後再用註釋像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5183.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5185.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
有個校訂定的話他的那個保障力不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5185.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5187.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
所以他們都希望入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5187.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5189.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
剛才我們提到韓國那個情況有侵害到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5189.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5193.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
教權的部分在教師法裡面是可以用專章的方式來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5193.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5196.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
那如果教育部有意往專章來去設計的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5196.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5198.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
你什麼時候教育部可以推出教育部版的專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5198.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5200.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
去告訴我大概什麼時間你可以提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5200.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5201.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
一個月內喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5201.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
研議要朝專章或者朝專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5205.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
我們一個月內會做出一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5207.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5209.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
後來就是評估出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5209.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
我們先從註釋像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
你看我笑得很無奈吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
笑得很漂亮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
我請那個署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
我先跟次長說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5219.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5221.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
我真的蠻無奈的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5222.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
因為在當場我覺得我還蠻高興的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
至少我們可以參考其他國家的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5230.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
我覺得次長也很大方的就答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5230.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
而且你講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5234.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
你講的是可以用專章來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5234.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
專章或專法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5237.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
但是他評估的結果就是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5237.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5239.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
現行的教師法相關的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5239.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5240.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
沒有關係喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5240.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5241.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
我跟他講 第一個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5241.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5243.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
我為什麼講我剛笑的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5244.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
有點尷尬啦 為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
因為當時我得到資訊不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5250.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
但沒關係 你要有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5250.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5252.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
可是我還是要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5252.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5256.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5255.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5257.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
老師反應再反應啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5257.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5259.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
委員也拜託再拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5259.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5261.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
在教育部的眼中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5261.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5263.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
我覺得老師意見好像不被重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5263.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5265.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
日韓2022年就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5265.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5267.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
修教權專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5267.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5269.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
讓問題減緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5269.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5271.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
那我們現在卻連開始都不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5271.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5273.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
那你一度願意從專章做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5273.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5275.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
我也沒有堅持專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5275.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5277.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
你有專章 我覺得那先從專章開始嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5279.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5282.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
那結果呢 現在連開始都不願意開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5282.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5286.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
那在六月份的質詢其實說的很清楚了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5286.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5288.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
我引述日本跟韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5288.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
在2020年做的法治改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5292.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
提出設置學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5292.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5294.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
律師以及修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5294.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
以法律層級明定保護教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
那韓國有修訂教權釋法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
其中教師地位提升與教育活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5305.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
保護特別法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5305.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
保護特別法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
增訂侵害教育活動的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
如果高中以下學校或其監護人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5313.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5318.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
對教師教育實施不公正干涉或限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5318.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5321.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
包括不正當目的的反覆投訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5321.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5326.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
不斷強迫教師進行不屬於他法定職責的工作等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5326.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5329.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
都是侵害教育活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
日韓也有霸凌濫述的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那他們都在2020年開始從事法律設計制度改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
來漸漸減緩教權不彰改善教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
所以我才鄭重拜託部長也請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
能夠把其他國家的所謂的立法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
因為你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5352.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
這個教權不彰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5356.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
老師被霸凌濫述的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5356.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5358.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
其實不是台灣獨有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5358.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5360.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
日本韓國也很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5360.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5363.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
所以他們我們今天要解決我們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5363.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
當然要去跟其他的國家來參照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
結果現在你自己承諾的專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
現在又跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我們其實有討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
你提到不法侵害的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
其實不法侵害的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
職安法裡面就有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
我們另外一個次長也在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
學校現場的時候職業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
我們怎麼樣把它納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
次長我先跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
如果這些方式都有用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
我們今天就來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5395.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
我要告訴您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5397.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
拜託您你們再好好研議一下吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
我相信當初你這樣子答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
我不認為你是隨性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
你自己一定有研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
這個問題那麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
我不相信其他國家的日韓的體力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
你沒有去研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
所以上來答詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5415.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
你一定是經過研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5415.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
當時你覺得是可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
否則你幹嘛當時那麼肚丁的告訴答應我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5422.04 |
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那我還是要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
就是說今天在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
這次我也會繼續來追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5431.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
我們還是拜託我們的次長跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5431.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
老師的問題真的很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
不要說覺得人家日本各都道府縣的教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5438.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
都配置學校律師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5443.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
學校面臨的問題提供法律諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5443.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
日本的政府統計2022年最多諮詢內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5449.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
就是家長的過度報應跟無理要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5449.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5452.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
所以日本政府2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5452.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5455.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
就開始撥預算支持這個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5455.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
時間因素我還是拜託次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5459.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
你還是回頭想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5459.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5461.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
教育部再審慎研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5461.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5462.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5467.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5468.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
好 謝謝樓市長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
下一位陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5479.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5481.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
謝謝主席 請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5483.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5484.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5487.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5488.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
來 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5488.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5489.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5489.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5491.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
次長 下週馬上要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5491.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
但是大家也看到說這幾天的天氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5496.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
中南部跟東部的雨下得非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5496.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5498.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
那有很多地方都傳出淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5498.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
我想先了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5500.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
教育部這邊有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5500.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5502.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
各縣市政府有沒有回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5502.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5504.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
學校的受災損的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5504.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5506.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
有沒有哪幾所學校受災比較嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5506.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5508.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
會影響到孩子們開學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5508.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5509.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
有 我們教育部那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5509.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5510.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
都有一個校安通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5510.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5512.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
每天都會不斷的在統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5512.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5514.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
那到8月25號為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5514.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
就是高中以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
受到豪大雨影響比較嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5519.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
譬如說積淹水 設備損壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5519.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5521.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
樹木倒塌等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5521.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5523.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
大概有79校來通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5523.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5524.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
79校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5524.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5526.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
那高中有3校 國中19校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5526.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5528.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
那國小有47校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5528.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5529.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
3000多方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5529.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5531.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
那幼兒園大概是10元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5531.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5533.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
目前呢 昨天是1608 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5533.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5535.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
現在3700多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5535.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5537.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
現在4400多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5537.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5538.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
440023 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5538.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5539.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
因為他一直在更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5539.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5540.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5540.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5542.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
所以那他有回報這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5542.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5544.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
那中午有沒有用盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5544.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5546.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
最快的速度來協助他們趕快恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5546.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5548.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
因為下禮拜就要開學了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5548.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5550.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
對 我們都會先撥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5550.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5553.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
那個台南高雄部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5553.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5555.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
比較嚴重的我們都先撥了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5555.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5557.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
因為這個下雨的狀況還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5557.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5559.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
氣象局有預警說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5559.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5560.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
還會有颱風接著來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5560.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5562.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
所以等於就是豪雨再加上颱風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5562.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5564.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
會連續的來影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5564.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5566.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
我們昨天已經撥給台南跟高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5566.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5567.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5567.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5568.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
這個也講到這個部分了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5568.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5570.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
就是說這個經費的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5570.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5572.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
今年國教署編列了個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5572.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5574.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
災損的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5574.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5576.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
面對我們這一次這個下雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5576.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5577.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
跟接下來可能的颱風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5577.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5578.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
預算這樣子是夠不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
來 我請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5582.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
原則是夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
那第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
這不夠的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5588.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
部裡也會以緩積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
給我們立即的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5590.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
去年發生過一次馬太安的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
我們在工作上很快就能夠銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5596.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
也幫忙地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
當時補了4億4千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
那這一次到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
我們補了1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5602.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
這會做一個緊急的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
都會緊急處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
讓孩子的安全最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
所以我們天天都保持密切聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5606.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
對於116年度的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
因為地方的一般性補助款增加之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5612.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
那如果未來遇到有天災造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5614.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
這個校園要修繕的經費需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
那教育部你們要如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
跟地方政府來協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5620.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
經費分擔跟分配的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
剛才署長有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5624.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
如果真的有遇到臨時性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
重大的一些災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
我們一定會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5628.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
預算它是整年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5630.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
我們以緩積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
先調撥調用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
先顧好孩子的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
另外我想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
次長我們要如何落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5638.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
不適任人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5639.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5641.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
再進入校園的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5641.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5642.04 |
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因為近期教育部你們有預告 |
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5642.04 |
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會修正相關的辦法 |
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5645.04 |
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對於曾經涉及 |
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5647.04 |
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性侵害性騷擾性霸凌 |
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5647.04 |
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5648.04 |
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或是違反性與性別專業 |
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5648.04 |
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5651.04 |
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倫理行為的不適任人員 |
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5651.04 |
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5652.04 |
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我們有新增 |
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5652.04 |
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5653.04 |
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中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5653.04 |
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5655.04 |
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得向戶政機關申請必要資料 |
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5655.04 |
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5657.04 |
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確認通報對象的個人資料 |
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5657.04 |
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5659.04 |
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有沒有經過異動 |
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5659.04 |
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5661.04 |
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也就是避免有人是透過改名 |
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5661.04 |
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5663.04 |
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變更身分資料等這個方式 |
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5663.04 |
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5665.04 |
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我們來規避不適任人員的 |
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5665.04 |
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5666.04 |
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查詢機制 |
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5666.04 |
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5668.04 |
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那這個方向本席是認定 |
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5668.04 |
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5670.04 |
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是必要的我也是支持 |
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5670.04 |
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5671.04 |
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不過本席想要請教 |
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5671.04 |
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5673.04 |
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次長來做進一步的說明 |
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5673.04 |
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5674.04 |
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我們這套機制 |
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5674.04 |
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5675.04 |
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實際上要怎麼運作 |
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5675.04 |
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5677.04 |
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是教育部你們會定期 |
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5677.04 |
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5679.04 |
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將資料庫中的通報對象 |
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5679.04 |
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5680.04 |
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跟戶政機關進行勾集 |
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5680.04 |
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5683.04 |
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如果有發現就是有異動的話 |
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5683.04 |
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5685.04 |
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主動更新資料庫 |
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5685.04 |
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5688.04 |
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或是會等學校提出才會 |
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5688.04 |
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5689.04 |
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跟戶政機關確認 |
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5689.04 |
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5691.04 |
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就是說你們是主動的 |
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5691.04 |
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5692.04 |
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還是是學校提出才有 |
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5692.04 |
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5693.04 |
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然後你們資料比對 |
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5693.04 |
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5694.04 |
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是多久一次 |
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5694.04 |
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5695.04 |
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謝謝委員的關心 |
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5695.04 |
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5697.04 |
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其實我們在今年的6月5號 |
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5697.04 |
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5698.04 |
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就已經修正發布了 |
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5698.04 |
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5701.04 |
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不適任教育人員通報資訊 |
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5701.04 |
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5704.04 |
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收集及查詢處理利用辦法 |
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5704.04 |
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5705.04 |
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那麼也增訂本部得救 |
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5705.04 |
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5707.04 |
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各教育場域不適任人員 |
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5707.04 |
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5708.04 |
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通報資料 |
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5708.04 |
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5709.04 |
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所以你們是主動的 |
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5709.04 |
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5710.04 |
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還是說 |
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5710.04 |
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5711.04 |
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對我們是主動向戶政機關 |
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5711.04 |
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5713.04 |
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申請提供個人資料異動 |
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5713.04 |
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5715.04 |
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多久會比對一次 |
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5715.04 |
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5716.04 |
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對 |
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5717.04 |
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多久 |
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5717.04 |
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5718.04 |
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多久 |
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5718.04 |
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5719.04 |
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我們大概 |
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5720.05 |
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5722.05 |
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基本上因為我們這個系統 |
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5722.05 |
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5724.05 |
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它主要是按照身分證字 |
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5724.05 |
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5726.05 |
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它比較不是依照姓名 |
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5726.05 |
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5727.05 |
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改名沒有用 |
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5727.05 |
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5728.05 |
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對 改名其實是沒有影響的 |
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5728.05 |
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5731.05 |
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那少數它一定會有身分證字要改變 |
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5731.05 |
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5733.05 |
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比如說像因為性別因素 |
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5733.05 |
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5734.05 |
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做一個改變 |
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5734.05 |
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5735.05 |
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所以這個情況比較少 |
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5735.05 |
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5737.05 |
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那我們會是需要 |
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5737.05 |
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5738.05 |
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如果我們看它的資料有問題的話 |
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5738.05 |
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5741.05 |
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我們就主動再將戶政機關 |
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5741.05 |
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5742.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
來做一個提供 |
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5742.05 |
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5743.05 |
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就是會更新資料就對了 |
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5743.05 |
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5744.05 |
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我們會主動選擇 |
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5744.05 |
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5745.05 |
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好 那另外 |
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5745.05 |
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5746.05 |
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現行制度有要求學校 |
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5747.05 |
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在片任任用 |
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5747.05 |
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5749.05 |
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盡用人員的需要查詢 |
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5749.05 |
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5751.05 |
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相關不適任人員這個資料庫 |
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5751.05 |
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5754.05 |
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對現職人員有定期查詢機制 |
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5754.05 |
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5756.05 |
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所以在這邊本席想要確認就是說 |
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5756.05 |
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5759.05 |
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未來是不是學校每次片任新進的 |
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5759.05 |
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5761.05 |
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這個教職人員都必須透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5761.05 |
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5763.05 |
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教育部的這個查詢系統 |
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5763.05 |
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5764.05 |
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來完成這相關的查詢 |
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5764.05 |
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5765.05 |
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來就要了 |
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5765.05 |
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5766.05 |
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對 |
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5766.05 |
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5767.05 |
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這是一定要的 |
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5767.05 |
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5768.05 |
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一定要 |
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5768.05 |
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5769.05 |
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這樣子才能夠避免就是說 |
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5769.05 |
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5771.05 |
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有一些資料不及更新的時候 |
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5771.05 |
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5775.05 |
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而去任用到這種不適任的人員 |
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5775.05 |
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5776.05 |
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好 |
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5776.5 |
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5777.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
學校呢 |
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5777.5 |
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5779.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
除了剛剛講的這個之外呢 |
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5779.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5781.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
他總共要查詢哪些資料庫 |
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5781.5 |
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5782.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
提出哪些資料 |
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5782.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5785.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
學校是要一一的來逐一查詢 |
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5785.5 |
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5787.5 |
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還是教育部有一個單一平台 |
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5787.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5789.5 |
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來協助他整合比對 |
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5789.83 |
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5791.83 |
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就是針對那個不適任的系統 |
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5791.83 |
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5793.83 |
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那不適任的系統就包括 |
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5793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5794.83 |
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都已經整合了 |
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5794.83 |
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5795.83 |
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就是一個系統而已 |
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5795.83 |
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5797.83 |
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所有的資料都在裡面 |
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5797.83 |
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5799.83 |
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本席其實支持教育部 |
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5799.83 |
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5800.83 |
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把我們的制度補強 |
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5800.83 |
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5803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
但也希望說我們流程是清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5803.83 |
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5804.83 |
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那我們第一線呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5804.83 |
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5805.83 |
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學校是容易操作 |
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5805.83 |
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5808.83 |
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大家同時也做好各自的保護性 |
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5808.83 |
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5810.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
教育部這邊把整體查詢 |
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5810.83 |
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5811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
對他們不適任的系統 |
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5811.83 |
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5812.83 |
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就已經連在一起 |
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5812.83 |
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5813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
相關的機制 |
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5813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5815.83 |
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如果就是說明是清楚的 |
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5815.83 |
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5816.83 |
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讓學校可以操作 |
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5816.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
我們才能夠落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
也真正的把校園安全這一塊防線 |
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5819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5820.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
能夠建立起來 |
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5820.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
對謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5822.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
對我們會朝這個方向走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5822.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5827.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5828.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5830.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5831.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5831.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5832.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
下一位吳思達委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5835.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5837.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
好請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5837.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5839.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
衛福部的代表也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5839.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5840.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5840.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5842.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
有請衛福部的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5842.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5843.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5843.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5844.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5844.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5845.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
好大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5845.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5849.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
對於兒少的不當對待的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5849.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5852.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
其實我們這一屆立法院在努力之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5852.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5855.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
我們通過的兒少托育的專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5855.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5857.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
其實是一個很大的跨越 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5857.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5859.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
希望能夠在制度面去整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5859.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5860.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
而不再是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5860.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5861.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
委員跟你說聲抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5861.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5863.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
衛福部沒有派 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5863.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
我們今天只有教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5865.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
好那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5865.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5866.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5866.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5867.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
那我就那時間重新開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5867.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
可以重新開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5869.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
重新開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5869.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
好不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5873.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
好那我就就教於我們張廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5873.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5874.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
我說這個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5874.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5877.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
立法院完成了兒少托育專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5877.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5879.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
我要非常謝謝林月琴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5879.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5881.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
發揮她的兒少社福的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5881.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5884.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
協助我們讓法律有一個專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5884.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5887.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
把過去在制度銜接失靈的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5887.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
也就是衛福部轄管的未滿三歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5893.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
到駕馭部轄管的二到六 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5893.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5896.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
的這個制度整合能夠完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5896.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5898.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
所以這是一個很大的跨越 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5898.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5899.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
但是即便如此喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5899.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5902.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
夏業還是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5902.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5905.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
我看到委員今天有七個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5905.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5907.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
在轎管服務人員的條例的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5907.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
我基本上是同意教育部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
多數還是要跟右照法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
一起來參照整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
或者是有的行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5918.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
已經完備了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5918.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5919.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
那這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5919.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
我基本上我個人的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
我個人的立場是支持你們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
支持跟教育部的看法相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5927.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
但是我服務的選區是台北市喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5927.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5928.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5928.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5930.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
今天非常遺憾喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5930.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5933.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
台北市已經成為兒少的煉獄了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5933.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5936.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
今天又發生一個十歲的女童 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5936.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5938.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
長期遭到性慰謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5938.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5941.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
240天但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5941.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5943.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
對不起這個有個錯字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5943.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5944.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
沒有安置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5944.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5947.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
240天市府都不聞不問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5947.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5948.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
未安置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5948.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5953.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
整個台北市的兒少保護已經癱瘓了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5954.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
雖然這個案子是發生在孩童的家裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5959.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5965.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
但是學校也應當能夠是一個市井的一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5965.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5968.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
或是提供保護關懷的一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5968.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5969.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
那夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5969.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5972.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
我在整理今天的資訊質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5972.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5974.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
台北市這四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5974.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5978.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
發生了八起的重大兒虐案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5979.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5983.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
已知的受害幼兒已經有115名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5983.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5988.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
當中618次的不當對待及管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5988.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5991.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
跟教育部也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5991.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5995.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
因為這些我整理出的八案裡面有七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5995.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5997.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
都是發生在幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5998.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6000.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
也就是我們幼照法要管轄的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6000.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6005.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
當然這是地方政府第一線要去好好的處理面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6005.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6007.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
而不是一再的講不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6007.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6009.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
一再的甩鍋中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6009.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6014.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
但是中央畢竟還是有監督之責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6014.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6018.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
這八個案件裡頭七個發生在幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6018.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6021.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
最著名的是夏立思幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6021.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6023.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
還拿市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6024.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6027.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
的簽名感謝信來做火廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6027.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
當然塔諾米的這個就是之前那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
毛姓教練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
毛姓的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
就是這個加害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6038.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
也是傳得沸沸揚揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6038.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6040.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
所以台北市這些失靈的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6040.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6042.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
我再提供下一個資訊夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6043.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6045.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
依衛福部的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6045.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6047.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
北市的兒女案已經倍增了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6048.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6050.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
這是蔣萬安市長上任以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6050.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
2022到2024年我整理了六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6056.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
未滿六歲的受虐兒童 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6056.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6060.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
受保護的執行人數的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6060.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6064.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
台北市從蔣萬安上任的2022年153位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6064.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
到2024年因為受虐兒被執行受保護的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
來到298 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
增加了94% |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6076.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
如果換算在六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6076.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
經2024年統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6080.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
未滿六歲受虐兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6080.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6082.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
佔每十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6082.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6085.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
每萬人的受虐比例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6085.94 |
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6089.94 |
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台北市每萬人有30.49位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6090.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6092.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
未滿六歲的受虐兒 |
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6092.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6094.88 |
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是六都的第一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6095.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6097.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
這些受虐的現場 |
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6098.5 |
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6100.5 |
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多數可能發生在幼兒園 |
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6102.05 |
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6104.05 |
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多數可能就是發生在幼兒園 |
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6105.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6105.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6106.05 |
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所以監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6107.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6109.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
在蔣萬安的任內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6109.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6111.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
八件的糾正案裡頭 |
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6111.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6116.57 |
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五件就是兒虐或是性傷害的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6116.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
當然次長可能會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
這去問市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6123.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
問題就是市政府就是講不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6123.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6125.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
制度在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
他不執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6128.57 |
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凡是SOP要問中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6128.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
修法要問中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6132.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
那我要問問教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6132.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6136.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我們對於台北市的兒少保護的失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6136.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6138.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
這麼多的新聞案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6138.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6141.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
既然蔣事長也一再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6141.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6145.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
不管是求助中央或是甩鍋中央好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6145.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
你們有沒有針對台北市立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
特別來協助督導監督協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6152.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
各種方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6152.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6155.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
總要去對於他們的制度失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6155.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6157.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
既然蔣事長一再的求助中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6157.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6159.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
請中央幫幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6159.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6161.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
你們教育部能做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6161.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6162.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
做了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6162.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6164.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6164.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6167.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
其實我們對於相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6167.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6169.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
剛才有委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6169.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6171.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
如果你是教保相關人員違法事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6171.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6172.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
你要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6172.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6174.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
我們其實都有一套處理的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6174.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6175.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
而且目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6175.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
我也知道SOP現行制度都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6181.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
唯獨台北市沒有辦法好好執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6181.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
但是台北市已經失靈了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
你們有沒有特別弄成一個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6188.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
去幫幫北市府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6188.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6190.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
我們其實剛才也有跟委員回覆說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6190.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6192.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
其實最好不是到事後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6192.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
我們裁罰多少 裁罰多重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
應該是事前有一些督管機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6200.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
譬如說我們那個稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6200.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6201.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
不定期的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6201.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
如果你有很多案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
有那種高風險的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6206.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
所謂的教保機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6206.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
那你的那個稽查力度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6208.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
當然我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6208.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
所以我在這裡要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6211.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
因為今天時間非常短 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6211.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6213.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
我不是在究責於你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6213.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
我不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6215.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
因為這畢竟是地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6215.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
第一線的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
不是中央的第一線的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
但是中央已經看到某些縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
或是我直接講就台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6228.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
成為兒少的煉獄的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6228.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
從前端的稽查次數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6232.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
他們的可能執行面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6233.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6234.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
都沒有到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6234.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6236.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
你們應當去協助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6236.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6237.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
剛才我也問了署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6237.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6238.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
點出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6238.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6240.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
對 就發生這些指標性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6240.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6241.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
個案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6241.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6242.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
很重大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6242.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6243.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
你們有沒有聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6243.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6244.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
他說他是直接打給局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6244.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6245.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
是直接都會跟他們聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6245.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6247.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
也會跟他們講應該要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6247.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6248.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
那就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6248.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
所以我們中央隨時發生案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6251.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6254.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
我們也都可以直接直通教育局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6254.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
會接你們電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6258.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
那就指導協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6258.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
我回到前一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6260.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
衛福部的那個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6260.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6262.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
我在整理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6262.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
我真的覺得觸目驚心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
台北市資源最豐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
但是每萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6271.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
有30.49個未滿6歲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6271.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6273.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
受虐兒童的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6273.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6275.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
六都的第一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6275.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6277.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
講完上任以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6277.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6279.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
未滿6歲的受虐兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6279.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6283.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
因為受虐兒需要被保護求助的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6283.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6288.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
從153人到298人是兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
我們看到地方政府已經有警訊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
該幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
我也知道你們願意幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
但是就多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6300.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
我也只能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
也許市長都講不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
但中央該做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我們能多做就多做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
因為多幫助一個孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
就是挽救了他的人生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6312.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
跟委員委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6312.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6316.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
如果說這個數字調查出來的確實增加那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6316.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6318.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
其實我們會建議台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6318.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6320.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
提高稽查的覆蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6320.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
然後針對這些所謂風險性比較高的教保機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
能夠主動學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6328.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
而且是無預警的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6328.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
know how都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
各縣市都知道該怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
就是台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6334.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
或許他不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6334.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6336.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
或是他知道了不想做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6336.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6338.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
總是台北市出現了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6338.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6340.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
你們就把您告訴我的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6340.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6344.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
在不厭其煩的盯您台北市政府好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6344.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6346.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
我是台北市的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6346.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6348.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
我也覺得非常的無奈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6348.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6350.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
因為我沒有能力沒有資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6350.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
我現在的身份我只能夠向中央來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6355.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6355.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
當然我們的市議員很努力的在地方來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6360.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
我們請區立編編長區理分解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6360.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6361.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6361.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6362.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我們平常的那個都管機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6362.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6366.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
就把台北市列為一個需要加強關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6366.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
加強協力的兒少的專案好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
我們會努力來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6372.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
謝謝辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6374.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6375.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
謝謝無視交委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6377.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6379.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
有請吳飛議委員擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6380.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6382.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
召會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6381.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6383.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6391.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6392.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6392.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6394.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
接下來有請羅廷偉委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6399.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
好有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6401.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
有請張廖萬監市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6403.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6405.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
各位好好市長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6405.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6408.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
今天我們在處理這個教保人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6408.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6410.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
我有件事情個案跟你來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6410.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6411.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
我們在7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6411.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
基隆市一家公共幼兒園爆發了嚴重不當的對待幼童事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6419.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
第一階段行政調查認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6419.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
兩名教保人員違法情節重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
各被依裁處40萬元的罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
終身不得任教於這個教保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6430.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
那元所呢負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6430.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6434.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
第一教保服務人員條例第46條第一項第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6434.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6436.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
裁處最高額6萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6436.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
並令命期幼兒園停止招生一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6440.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
我先跟你請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6440.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6441.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
剛剛你有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6442.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6444.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
第46條這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6444.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
您是建議維持原條文是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6450.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
是因為那個跟幼照法要一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6450.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6451.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
那個裁法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6451.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6452.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
好維持原條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6452.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6454.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
這是你們的一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6454.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
但是我想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6457.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
您知道這個狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6457.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6463.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
當時這兩名教保人員違法情節重大的其中一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6464.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6466.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
跟負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6466.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6468.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
元所負責人請問是什麼關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6468.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6471.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
是他們是那個二等籤關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6471.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6473.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
他們是夫妻關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6473.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6474.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6474.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6476.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
所以他有可能有隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6477.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6478.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
違法不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
有沒有這個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6482.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6484.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
你們認定有沒有這個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
這個是基隆市政府認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
基隆市政府他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
有沒有相關資料你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6491.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6492.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6492.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6495.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
在上一次台北市發生矛案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6495.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6497.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
我們就發現那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6497.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6499.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
矛案也有類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6499.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6500.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6500.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6503.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
我們就修了他的這個二等籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6503.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6504.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
還有配偶這樣的關係的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6504.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6506.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
他有通報的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6506.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6508.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
所以當時那個通報的責任也修成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6508.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6509.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
可以直接通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6509.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6511.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
就不用透過負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6511.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6512.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
所以我想問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6512.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6514.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
基隆現在這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6514.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6517.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
可不可以就請你直接回答我這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6517.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6520.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
基隆因為他們違法情節重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6520.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6521.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
其中教保員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6521.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6523.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
跟元所負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6523.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6525.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
是夫妻關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6525.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6527.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
當時他們認定有隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6527.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
違法不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
但最高只能夠罰六萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6533.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
這個部分你認為有沒有不妥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6535.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
你們還是一樣堅持覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
有隱匿違法不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
包庇這樣子的元所負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
不用增加上限嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6544.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6544.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6546.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
這有您提的那個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6546.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6547.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6547.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6549.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
但是我們到時候法案審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6549.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
會跟委員回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
有一些他會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6557.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
原來他在法律上設計是一套光譜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6558.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6560.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
當你是親的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6560.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6562.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
你是罰多少到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6562.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6563.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
之後你是情節重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6563.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6565.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
你是罰多少到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6565.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6567.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
所以我們就認定元所負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6567.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
他情節可能重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6570.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
他有包庇他的另外一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6570.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6573.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
所以委員您剛才提到這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6573.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6575.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
等會我們看細節條文的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6575.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6576.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我們會好好說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6576.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6578.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
其中有一個修法會比較怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6578.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6580.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
我具體的跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6580.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6582.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
但是我們是不是有共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6582.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6583.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
隱匿違法不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6583.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
包庇的這應該要想辦法加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
像這些一定要加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
加重的同時整個在裁罰體系內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6591.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
怎麼放那個位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6591.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6593.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
是等一下要討論的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6593.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6595.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
我們保障願意通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6595.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6599.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
願意協助沒有包庇的負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6599.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
我們一定要保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6601.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6603.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
但是我們也要二成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6604.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
這些包庇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6605.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
違法不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6608.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6611.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
我想這是社會大眾的共識吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6611.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6613.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
市長這是共識嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6613.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6615.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
這是我想說全民的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6615.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6616.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6616.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6617.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
現在就是說整個裁罰體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6617.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6619.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
對好人更好對壞人更壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6619.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6621.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
這是我們要來努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6621.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6623.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
所以今天我的教保服務人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6623.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6624.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6624.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6626.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
我有提出三個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6626.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6628.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
我也希望待會能夠好好的來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6628.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6629.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
再來第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6629.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6632.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
延長照顧不能變相加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6632.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6633.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
教育部的人力配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6633.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6636.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
這個今天很多委員都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6636.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6638.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
我們一方面也要保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6638.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6641.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
教保人員的權利跟福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6641.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6643.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
所以你們在講公立幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6643.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6645.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
延長照顧至9月1日起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6645.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6646.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
將從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
最多兩個小時增加三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6651.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
並提高第三小時的終點費補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6651.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6655.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
台灣教育產業工會等九大教師工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6655.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6656.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
有聯合聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6656.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
政策應該回應雙薪通勤輪班單親長工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6664.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
以及家庭需求的托育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6665 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6667 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
我們現在公佑的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6667 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6668 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
人從哪裡來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6668 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6670 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
若只是補助增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6670 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6671 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
卻找不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6671 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6674 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
最後就是限職教保人員承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6674 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6677 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
形成了變相加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6677 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6678 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
所以次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6678 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6682 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
你到底有沒有聽到九大工會的五項訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6682 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6685 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
第一全面提高終點費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6685 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6688 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
優先檢討並提高前兩個小時的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6688 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6691 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
第二建立需求評估機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6691 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6694 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
優先服務真正有需求的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6694 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6698 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
第三嚴格整個保障勞權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6698 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6702 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
明定不得強迫限職教保人員的加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6702 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6704 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
第四落實彈性退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6704 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6708 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
若援手招募不到適當的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6708 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6710 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
或者是無法確保照顧安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6710 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6712 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
不得強制開班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6712 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6715 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
第五建立資源體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6715 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6718 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
建立穩定的第二批替代人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6718 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6721 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
安全行政來支援機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6721 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6723 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
又能夠保障到家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6723 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6726 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
又能夠保障到我們現在的教保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6726 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6729 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
針對工會的五大訴求可不可以回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6729 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6730 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6730 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6733 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
事實上我們本來人力就是額外外加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6733 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6736 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
所以在115學員度我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6736 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6738 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
補助了637個員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6738 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6739 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
有682人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6739 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6740 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
那是外加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6740 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6741 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
不是現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6741 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6744 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
然後有些員所他需求性比較高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6744 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6748 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
他的那個托兒的數量比較大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6748 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6749 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
比如說超過120人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6749 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6752 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
那我們有41人還合訂了補助2人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6752 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6753 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
額外補助2人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6753 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6755 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
有2個員額外補助3人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6755 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6759 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
所以然後他禁用的人員也都要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6759 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6761 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
我們右照法規定的第20條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6761 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6763 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
延長照顧服務人員的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6763 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6767 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
所以這個也都讓地方政府按照這個資格來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6767 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6768 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
同意甄選 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6768 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6770 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
所以基本上我們就是人力外加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6770 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6773 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
第二個您提到的就是我們不會強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6773 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6776 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
本來我提過說這個一定是家長需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6776 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6779 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
元芳是現在的人力外加之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6779 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6781 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
他能做到的他去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6781 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6785 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
那延後那個時數不會用強迫的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6785 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6786 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
剛才有提到不會用強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6786 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6787 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
一定會故意到勞權問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6787 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6790 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
那如果有強迫的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6790 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6794 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
我們也會要求這個署這邊來瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6794 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6796 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
如果有的話也會跟元芳要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6796 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6798 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
他不得這樣來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6798 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6801 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
我們還是希望這個部分要真正確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6801 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6802 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
或是這樣的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6802 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6804 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
因為公會有這樣的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6804 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6805 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
一方面家長有需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6805 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6809 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
一方面勞權部分也要照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6809 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6810 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
所以那個是一個橫評 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6810 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6812 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
所以我們剛剛誘保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6812 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6815 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
補助的方式來外加人力來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6815 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6817 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
我們沒有說要求他們用加班來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6817 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6818 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6818 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6821 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
但是剛剛羅志祥委員在提的這個專章的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6821 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6823 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
我還是希望你們能夠好好的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6823 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6827 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
真的我們都希望能夠幫助到這個誘保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6827 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6829 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
教保人員他們的權益的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6829 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6831 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
教師法專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6831 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6834 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
這個部分你答應的我希望說能夠再好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6834 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6836 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
答應研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6836 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6838 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
我們在研議就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6838 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6840 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
各國的法律制度不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6840 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6842 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
希望答應有專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6842 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6843 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
市長最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6843 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6846 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
台中推動夜光天使延伸計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6846 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6849 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
部長有口頭允諾要3.0繼續推動事辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6849 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6851 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
新學期快要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6851 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6854 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
那不曉得今天可不可以告訴我們辦理的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6854 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6856 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
進度我就請署長來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6856.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6857.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6857.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6859.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
只要台中市一報來我們會用3天內就核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6859.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
那我這邊也會督促 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
因為台中市他們也說他們年底前一定會報出這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6867.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
這個部分希望市長您要一起來加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6867.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6869.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
好謝謝沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6883.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6885.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
好下一位吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6889.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6891.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
好謝謝主席我請照亮外間市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6892.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6893.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6894.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6895.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6896.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6896.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6900.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
今天我們要討論的是教保人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6900.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6902.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
那麼對於幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
甚至是教保人員的這個服務跟表現我們非常的關心跟重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
台北市我們近期又發生了一起重大的幼兒園的虐案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6914.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
也就是台北市的夏立思幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6919.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
那甚至這個行為包括有要孩子去學狗爬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
拖行強迫餵食等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
在這個案件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
我看到的是我認為台北市政府的處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
還是相當的消極 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6932.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6936.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
另外是今天一定要提出來討論是有關於法規的釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6936.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6938.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
因為我們蔣萬事長他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6938.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6944.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
這個按照法規只要在一百天之內來去調查處理就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
那因為這個所謂的法規就是我們教保相關人員違法事件調查處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6955.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
這個辦法我們在台北市培諾米達案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6955.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6959.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
我們發現到整個在調查事件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6959.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
有多處的失職跟延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6962.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
導致於本來可以提早去發現這個不幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
卻沒有讓更多孩子受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
所以我們在培諾米達事件之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
確實對於調查辦法進行的修正跟修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
結果沒有想到市長去曲解了這樣子的調查處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
我先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
大家來回顧一下這個培諾米達案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
毛俊生這一位教保員是院長的兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
他的行為有多麼的惡劣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6991.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6995.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
高等法院之後判下來他的罪名是超過五百項罪名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6995.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
他性侵猥褻超過四十名幼童 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7001.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
總共刑度判下來是超過三千年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7001.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7003.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
執行三十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7004.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7006.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
這麼惡劣的一個行徑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7006.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7008.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
監察院的調查報告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7008.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7013.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
明確的去指出台北市政府的失職跟延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7013.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7014.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7014.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7016.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
在案情當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7016.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7018.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
台北市自己社會局的家防中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7018.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
就已經發現當時這個毛姓教保員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7021.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7024.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
他有對幼兒有性不當對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7025.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7027.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
台北市教社會局自己發現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7027.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7029.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
他還通報台北市教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7029.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7031.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
結果台北市政府教育局沒有去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7031.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7033.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
沒有立刻的開啟調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7035.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7039.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
所以這可以說是一個人為造成的人間的悲劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7039.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7041.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
所以我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7041.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7044.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
很多的委員當時都要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7044.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7045.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7045.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7048.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
我們跟你們一項一項的主項來去討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7048.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7051.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
我們教保人員違法事件調查處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7051.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
可以怎麼樣把它定得更加的詳細 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
就是不希望再有消極跟延宕處理的事件發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7063.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
所以整個當時修訂的方向去把它回頭來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7063.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
精神就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7067.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
應該要積極而且快速的來去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7067.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
絕對不是消極而且延宕又拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
所以我覺得非常無法理解是為什麼蔣花安市長會輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7074.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
他只要一百天之內處理完成就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7078.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
他說是你教育部的法喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7078.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
然後他在台北市議會專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7082.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
又跟議員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7082.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7084.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
他要去要求中央修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7084.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7086.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
他才能夠做得更好更快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7086.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7088.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
這完全是對於這個法規的曲解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7088.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7090.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
我看到這個態度就是傲慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
那為什麼一定要離心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7096.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
因為討論大家現在通通都被台北市政府誤導了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7096.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
哇!有兒童兒虐案這麼重大的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
你可以給我拖到五百天再處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7102.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7104.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
如果每個縣市政府都來群起效法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7105.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7107.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
這後果不堪設想後患無窮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
所以我要今天要跟市長聊理心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7111.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
第一件事情這個夏立思幼兒園案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7111.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7114.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
第一個事情它是一個重大案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7114.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7117.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
因為根據家長的懲情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7117.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
這個幼兒園裡面有13名幼童受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7126.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
這整個幼兒園裡面它核定招生的人數也只有37位而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7126.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7128.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
也就是超過三成的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7130.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
都受到虐待相關的情事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
這個數量規模之大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
然後案子是怎麼發現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
也是家長自己發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7140.12 |
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7142.12 |
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家長覺得有奇怪的跡象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7142.12 |
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7144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
才去要求要調閱監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
在家長一一看了700個小時的監視器之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7152.12 |
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發現竟然有高達76起的不當對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7154.36 |
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7157.36 |
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但是台北市政府沒有在第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7157.36 |
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7159.36 |
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就可以去做到停止調查 |
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7161.07 |
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7162.07 |
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市長你應該都還記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7162.07 |
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7165.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
我們就是在這裡討論PENOMI的案件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7165.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7167.07 |
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我們當時就一再的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7167.07 |
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7170.07 |
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為什麼交易局沒有在第一時間去停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7170.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7171.07 |
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來去進行調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7171.07 |
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7173.07 |
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對也給了很多那個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7173.07 |
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7175.07 |
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當時也去給台北市政府糾正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7175.07 |
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7177.07 |
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我不知道為什麼在這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7177.07 |
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7179.07 |
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他們第一時間仍然不停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7180.46 |
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7183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
那剛講這個家長因為看了監視器來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7184.46 |
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這就很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7184.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
所以也顯示了家長知情權的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
今天在討論的修法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
林月琦委員他的提案的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7194.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
也就是要讓相關的調查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7194.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7196.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
讓家長可以有知情權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7196.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7198.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
這個修法我支持也拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7198.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7200.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
希望教育部可以來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7200.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7201.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
那這個案件裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7201.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
家長也有反應說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7204.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
很多的家長他們去參觀當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7204.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
因為這個又有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7207.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
他是集團經營也有脫陰中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7207.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7208.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
參觀的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7208.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7209.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
看到我們市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7209.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7211.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
蔣市長的全家福的合照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7211.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7213.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
就是貼在這個牆上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7213.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7216.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
那還有一個幼兒園給他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7216.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
脫陰中心給他的感謝卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
所以很多家長他確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7221.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
我不是在事後阻隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7221.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7223.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
家長自己的說法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7223.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7225.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
他當時確實是因為看到有市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7225.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
所以他覺得以市長都來這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7229.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
送孩子來這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7229.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7232.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
應該是很可以信任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7232.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7234.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
所以就把孩子送入園了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7234.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7235.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
所以我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7235.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7238.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
因為到如今這個市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7238.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7240.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
還是沒有要去追究這個幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7240.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7242.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
貼他的感謝卡這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7242.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
那你首長的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7246.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
其實真的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7246.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7248.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
會去影響到相關的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7248.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7250.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
或是遠方也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7250.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7252.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
好那第一個我們要理請的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7252.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7253.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
就是因為現在台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7253.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7254.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我們蔣萬安市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7254.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7258.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
他在市議會對議員報告的時候他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7260.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7262.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
法規的規範處理兒孽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7262.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7264.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
只要在一百天之內就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7265.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
我現在請教市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7269.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
在我們中央教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7269.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7272.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
所有你們的法規或者SOP之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7272.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7274.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
我們有沒有任何一點的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7274.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7277.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
是說兒孽事件的處理調查時間是一百天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7277.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7278.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
有沒有這樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7278.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
沒有這種說法是不正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7282.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
就是說我們對違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7282.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7284.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
違法對待事件處理的法定期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7284.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7291.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
我們在剛才委員提到的調查辦法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7291.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7293.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
是規定的非常詳細 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7293.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7295.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
二十四小時內要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7295.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7297.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
然後兩個工作日要啟動調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7297.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7302.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
然後十個工作日要通知檢舉人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7302.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7305.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
那我們希望他三十天內能夠完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7305.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7309.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
那如果說他必要的時候案情非常複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7309.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7310.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
還有調查未盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7310.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7313.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
有案外案那我們就給他延長到三十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7313.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7315.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
那調查報告提送之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7315.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7316.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
三十天內一定要審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7316.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7319.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
我想我們規定的這個都是下限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7319.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7321.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
就是說你要盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7321.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7323.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
除非有特殊的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7323.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7325.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
我們最慢也要多久完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7325.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7329.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
所以所謂的一百一十天這樣的講法是不正確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7329.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7331.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
應該是要盡速盡快查明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7331.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
然後盡速做審議的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7336.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7337.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
然後讓家長知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7337.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7341.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
讓真相能夠趕快大白 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7341.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7344.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
好我們來看你這個叫保留員違法事件第二處理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7344.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7345.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7345.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7346.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
剛次長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7346.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7348.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
他是規範知悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7348.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
你一旦知道了有違法事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7353.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
主管機關你就要來提供保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7353.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7355.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
你要介入你要補到你要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7355.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
你一旦知道了請你就要開始作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7359.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
第三十三條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7359.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7362.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
地方政府知悉你一旦知道了良工做日內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7362.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7364.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
請你要啟動調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7364.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7367.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
我們整個精神就是希望你要快快快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7367.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7370.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
而不是讓你地方政府去拖拖拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7370.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7372.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
然後呢我們當時的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
我們所有人都想不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
今天竟然被台北市政府拿來當作說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
他拖延的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
他說因為你訂了我們上次修完法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
他今天可以拖到一百天之內再處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
所以我說這種講法不正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7388.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
這個教育部你們具有輔導地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7388.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7390.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
輔導地方政府的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7390.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7394.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
因為這個如果其他縣市政府未來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7394.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7396.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
地方幼兒園額虐案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7396.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7398.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
都給我說他們有一百天的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7400.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7402.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
沒有一個家長可以接受啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7402.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7404.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
我拖十天拖三十天我都受不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7404.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7405.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
我給你拖一百天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7405.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7407.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
針對那個蔣市長的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7407.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
我們再次請問台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
跟他們說明這個處理的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7414.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
那教育部你們看到地方政府首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7414.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7417.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
首長在議會殿堂有這樣公開發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7417.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7418.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
你們應該要去澄清資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7418.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7420.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
因為家長有執行的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7420.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
家長有權利知道我們的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7424.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
是如何要求地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7424.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7426.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
要來去監督我們幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7426.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7428.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
來去守護我們孩子的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7428.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7430.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
請你們務必要把資訊理解清楚好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7430.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7431.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7431.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7432.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
好謝謝市長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7437.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7437.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7438.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
今天登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7439.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7440.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7440.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7442.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
蘇星權蘇星權蘇星權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7442.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7444.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
林業啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7445.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
今天登記質詢的委員經已發言人MB |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
巡達結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
對於委員質詢時要求提供的相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7452.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7455.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
未及時答覆的部分請相關機關儘速以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7455.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7459.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
另有委員傅坤琪 林一錦 徐欣瑩 林月琴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7459.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7461.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
提出書面資料列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7461.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7464.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
並請相關機關以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7465.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7467.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
接下來繼續進行足料審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7467.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
為利益討論去準備協商場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
我們現場休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7472.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7473.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
整理場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7862.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7863.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7863.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7864.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7865.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
現在進行足料審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7865.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
請醫事人員宣讀提案條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7869.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
並進行討論時協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7869.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7872.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
討論時如果新增修正動議或附帶決議請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7872.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7877.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
討論時請參閱教育部提供的書面資料並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7877.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7879.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
請宣讀請期刊代表到協商桌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7886.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7886.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7888.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
委員羅庭威等提案第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7889.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7892.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
第一項第二款重段修正圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7892.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
受新騷擾防治法第25條或第27條規定處罰請為修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7902.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7904.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
委員羅庭威等提案第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7904.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7907.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
第一項第二款重段修正圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7907.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7913.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
受新騷擾防治法第25條或第27條規定處罰請為修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7915.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7917.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
委員王毓民等提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7917.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7921.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
第一項第八款第九款拒守軍修正委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7921.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
有性別平等教育法第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7930.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
第二項中段修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7934.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7938.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
修正為性別平等教育法第34條第四項局為修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7941.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7944.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
委員羅庭威等提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7956.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
好 我們是不是就先給教育部直接回答了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7961.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
加快速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
那我們尊重教育部的一個專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
那剛剛詢答的時候也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7971.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
請教育部對有關於第十二條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7972.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7974.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
相關的這個部分來回應 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
以下包含十二條十三條十四條等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7984.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
當然可能還有涉及到相關條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7984.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
這裡面會因應其他的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
他的法中的條字變化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
那本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
教保條例中有引用的部分應該也要跟著變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7998.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
基本上在相關的法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8000.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8003.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
雖然是沒有至愛是可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8003.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8007.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
不過我們認為正辦還是一次把它修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8007.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8013.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
但這個目前因為教保這邊有委員有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8013.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8017.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
那右照法那邊有些又沒有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8017.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8019.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
是不是有一個建議是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8020.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8025.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
右教這兩法所有不管有沒有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8025.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
是不是授權我們跟教文會有關的職員夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
我們一起來盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
把它一次做個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
就是類似十二十三十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8040.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
這一些因應其他法要修條次的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8040.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8041.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8041.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8045.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
好所以教育部的意見是再給你們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8045.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8047.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
你們要來處理十二十三十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8047.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8049.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
你們認為有可以修的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8049.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8051.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
但是需要再謹慎的探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8051.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8053.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
還要跟右照法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8053.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8055.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8055.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8058.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
好那我們就第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
調位修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8060.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8061.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
我們決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8062.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8064.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8063.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8064.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
我也有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8065.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8067.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8068.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8070.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
第十三條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8070.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8072.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
也是因為剛剛教育部有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8072.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8073.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
再給他們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8073.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8074.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
我們尊重教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8074.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8079.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
但看到教育部願意往這個修正的部分來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8079.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8081.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
我們給予鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8081.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8082.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8082.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8084.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
第十四條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8084.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8087.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
王雲銘等十二十一人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8087.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
那這個都是條次的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
那也是尊重教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8094.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
目前是以保留為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8094.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8097.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
大概會多久的時間會給我們一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8097.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8098.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
兩週內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8098.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8099.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
好保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8102.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8104.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
接下來第十五條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8104.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8107.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
由李彥秀 廖偉祥等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8107.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8109.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
請問一下教育部的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8110.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8114.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
這個也是一樣是會涉及到其他有關條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8114.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8116.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
但是這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8116.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8118.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
拿著這個講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8118.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8122.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
因為這裡面會有一個跟下一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8122.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8124.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
十七條連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8124.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8127.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
這跟十七條連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8127.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8129.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
主要是提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8129.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8132.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
暫時停聘要不要通報的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8136.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
那跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8137.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8138.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
現行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8139.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8142.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
暫時停聘前的知悉通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8142.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8144.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
他就已經被通報了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8145 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8148 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
所以如果這個時間再通報他其實是多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8148 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8150 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
其實是不太必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8150 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8152 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
但是委員的顧慮我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8152 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8155 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
等會第十七條的時候我們直接就他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8155 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8157 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
在那個期間他如果用辭職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8157 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8161 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
他就會避開了可能到別的緣人家不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8161 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8162 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8162 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8163 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
那個我們在十七條修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8163 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8166 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
就通報的部分因為知悉通報就要通報了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8166 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8169 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
所以你認為十五條這個部分可以在十七條處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8169 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8170 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8170 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8172 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
那你建議是不予修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8172 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8174 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
暫時不予修正好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8174.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8176.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
那因為我們真正的委員關心的要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8176.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8178.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
是在第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8178.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8179.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8181.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8183.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8185.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
好第十五條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8185.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8188.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
我們先並十七條一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8188.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8190.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
但我先建議就是保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8190.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8191.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8191.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8192.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
好保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8193.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8195.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
第十六條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8195.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8197.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
由委員李彥秀等十六人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8197.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8199.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
請問一下教育部的建議是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8199.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8201.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
因為這些委員的建議基本上我們都看過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8201.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8203.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
讓我們想直接了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8203.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8206.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
就十六條教育部的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8206.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8208.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
我們建議這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8208.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8210.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
因為就差一個原則上就差那一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8210.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8214.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
基本上原來大院通過的其實已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8216.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8218.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
加那一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8218.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
8221.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
沒有特別影響真實情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8221.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8224.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
可是原來大院修的就已經很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8224.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8226.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
所以我們是建議不用修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8226.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
要確定了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8228.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8229.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8235.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
好我們先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8238.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
往下進行第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8238.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
第十七條跟剛剛說的第十五條的有連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那所以請教育部直接說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8249.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
第十七條如何去修會比較有這個防範的機制來建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8249.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8252.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
那是不是我們就把那個條文提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8252.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8253.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8255.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8257.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
教育部有提出修正動議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8257.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8259.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
建議用這個修正動議請播出來好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8260.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8262.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
可不可以用紅色的字來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8263.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8266.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
把那個畫底線那部分再用紅色標出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8267.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8268.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
有必要者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8269.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8279.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8280.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8281.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8282.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
增進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8284.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8287.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
第三項情形中央主管機關應建立資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8287.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8291.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
工職下縣市主管機關登載查詢解除登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8291.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
教保服務機構的聘任任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
禁用教保服務人員前應辦理查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8303.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
第三項有關不得自其他教保服務機構任職的前項制規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8303.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
於第三十條第一項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8308.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
禁用之代理人試用之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8310.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8312.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
這就是去用更 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8313.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
比較嚴謹的方式去處理委員關心的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8321.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
OK好這看起來是有把這個問題要寫在上面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8321.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
好有沒有委員有意見對於教育部所提的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8324.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8325.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8329.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8333.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
有我有看到好委員沒有意見喔那我們修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8334.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8336.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
第17條條文修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8336.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
所以你的建議是17條處理後第15條不用處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8341.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
OK好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8344.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8346.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
那我們回過頭來先處理第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8346.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8348.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
第15條不予修正維持現行條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8348.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
因為教育部有說17條來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
那我們剛剛已經修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
我們繼續往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8359.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
第22條條文修正有羅庭瑋等17人一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8360.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8362.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
22條的部分請直接回應好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8362.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8363.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8363.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8368.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
就跟剛才那個其他法的相關條次變更的處理包裹在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8368.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8369.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8370.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
所以你也是建議保留再給你的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8372.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8373.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
對保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8373.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8375.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
然後同時如果我們要更快的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8375.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8379.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
他其實是法條修正法法總名稱修正而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8379.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8380.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
OK沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8380.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8383.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
只要方法你們有提出我們都樂觀其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8383.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8385.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
好不好好保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8391.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
第23條之一條文增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8391.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
有委員陳冠廷等16個人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8397.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
剛剛這個在質詢的時候你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8397.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
次長也有說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8400.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
次長你就簡單說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8400.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8402.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
你對於23條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8404.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8405.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8411.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8412.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8415.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
好23條之一你的建議是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8416.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8418.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
我們用附帶決議好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8418.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8420.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
因為這一個現行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8420.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
有些是我們已經在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
那有時候訂到法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
委員都長期有些給我們指導說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8429.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
訂了以後有時候會失去彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8429.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8432.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
可是我們能做的直接用行政措施做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8432.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8433.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
會與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8433.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
所以是會用附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
讓我們可以與時俱進的持續來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8438.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8440.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
來麻煩你因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8441.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
陳冠廷委員不在請吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8445.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8448.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
為維護教保服務人員良好的身心狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8453.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
提供誘生安全照護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8453.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
請教育部研議教保服務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8457.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
健康照護支持機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8457.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
增進幼兒服務職與教育品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8461.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
我必須說這件事情真的也蠻嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
如何讓支撐教保人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8468.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
我們是非常關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8468.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
那為什麼可以做但不能入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8471.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
我還是不太懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8472.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8474.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
是不是可以大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8475.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8476.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8477.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我建議是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8477.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
好先保留謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8479.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
我們再努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8481.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8483.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
就直接保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8484.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
這個還可以再討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
第31條條文修正有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8489.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
羅廷瑋等17人一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8490.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8491.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
請看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8491.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8493.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
31條請直接回應好嗎謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8494.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8495.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
30 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
支持交委的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8500.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8502.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
就是性別工作平等法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8502.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8504.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
改成性別平等工作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
所以請教育部回應可不可以直接做到好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8510.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8513.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
是有些法條本來就已經是那樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8513.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8516.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
他不涉及到法條的條4的查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8516.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8518.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
對那法種的改變我們就配合辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8518.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8520.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
對因為就文字直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8520.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8521.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
是是是好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8521.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8522.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
好的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8522.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8524.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
那我們就照委員羅廷瑋等17人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8524.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8525.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8525.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8527.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
下一個繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8527.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8529.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
第33條條文修正有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8529.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8531.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
林彥芹等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
以及委員林彥芹等28人等兩個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
他是有兩個提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
我們來看一下第33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8539.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8541.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
有關於知識權的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8544.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8546.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
知情通報的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8546.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8550.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
剛剛的31條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8550.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8552.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
其實22條他也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8552.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
抱歉這個沒有補充的很詳盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8556.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
他也是涉及到法種名稱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8556.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8558.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
變化而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8558.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8560.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
他不涉及到條4的查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8560.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8562.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
是不是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8562.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8564.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
比照第31條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8564.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8566.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
22條也可以修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8566.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8568.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8569.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8569.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8571.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
沒有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8571.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8573.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8573.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8575.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
22條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8575.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8577.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
照委員羅廷瑋等17人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8577.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8579.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
謝謝我們現在回到33條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8579.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8581.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
這個知情通報的部分請直接回應好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8581.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8583.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
33條這裡有涉及到兩個觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8587.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8591.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
委員建議要把其他服務人員代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8591.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8593.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
這個在這個委員會要刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8593.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8595.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
但事實上在一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8595.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8597.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
員裡面這類人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8597.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8599.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
也是有他也有接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8599.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8601.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
有兒那如果他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8601.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8603.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
有些問題他犯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8603.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8605.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
那結果他的這個委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8605.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8607.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
要認定時沒有類似的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8607.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8609.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
相近屬性工作的人在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8609.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8611.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
怕這個委員會組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8611.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
會被到時候質疑說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
這個委員組成的正當性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
來審查他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
所以我們是建議如果可以保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
這些人在他的道理是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
因為這些人也在幼兒園中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
以及他們也可能會犯了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
對教保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8628.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8631.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
這個保守可能有關的一些行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8631.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8633.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
所以是不是在公平性上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8633.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8636.02 |
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他們應該有人在委員會裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8636.02 |
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8638.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
這第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8637.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8639.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
第二個是有關這個隱私的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8639.96 |
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8641.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
我們事前也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8641.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8643.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
商量過是覺得是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8643.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8645.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
朝這個方向是好那因為委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8645.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8647.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
林月琴有16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8647.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8649.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
也有28人提案看起來你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8649.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8651.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
是跟16人提案這個是大致相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8651.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8653.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
所以我們是不是就直接用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8653.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8655.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
委員林月琴等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8655.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8657.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
16人提案這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8658.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8660.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
來做研商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8660.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8662.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
所以剛才有兩點在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8662.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8664.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
倒數第二項跟最後一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8664.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8666.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
分別就倒數第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8666.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8668.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
那個是講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8668.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8670.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
委員會的組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8670.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8672.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
林委員是建議其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8672.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8674.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
服務人員代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8674.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8676.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
對好對嘛所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8676.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8678.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
沒有抱歉16人版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8678.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8680.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
如果這樣因為原先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8680.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8682.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
有跟我們談到有可能可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8682.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8684.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
不要但是我們只是表達要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8684.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8686.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
那他後來沒有特別堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8686.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8688.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
的話我們是就照委員會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8688.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8690.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
所以你的建議是可以到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8690.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8692.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
16人對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8692.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8694.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
就照16人版好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8694.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8696.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
照委員林月琴等16人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8696.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8698.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
這個通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8698.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8700.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
我發言一下應該的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8700.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8702.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
我們支持林月琴委員這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8702.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8704.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
剛剛詢答的時候其實也有提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8704.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8706.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
這個家長的執行權很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8706.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8708.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
我覺得把它定清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8708.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
也是給地方政府給他們減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8712.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
困擾常常都在家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8713.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8715.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
教育局之間的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8715.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8717.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
好謝謝我們就16人等提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8717.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8719.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8720.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8722.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
第38條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8722.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8724.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
有委員等17人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
請問我們第38條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
交付的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
這個如前面31條一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
可以謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
好我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8736.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
趙羅廷瑋等17人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8737.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8739.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
39條也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8738.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8740.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8740.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
39條條文修正有委員等17人一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8744.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
那教育部的一件事可以照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8747.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
我的版本所有直接通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8751.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8751.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8753.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8753.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8755.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
趙委員羅廷瑋等17人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8756.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8758.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
第43條條文修正有王玉明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8758.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8760.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
等21人三個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8760.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8762.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
是不是請你直接回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8762.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8764.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8764.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8766.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
43條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8766.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8768.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
以及46條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8768.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8770.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
其實我想說讓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8770.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8772.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
因為整體感都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8772.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8774.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
就很簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8774.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8776.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
我們對惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8776.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8778.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
隱匿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8776.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8778.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
我們跟委員會的態度一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8778.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8780.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
我們覺得要予以重罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8780.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
惡意啦隱匿啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8784.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
這些都非常不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8784.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8786.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
那現在是整個裁罰體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8786.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8788.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
照委員現在的數額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8788.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8790.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
我們稍微有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8790.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8792.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
對比一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8792.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8794.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
假如有一個假行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8794.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8796.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
等一下還是要拿麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8796.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8798.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8798.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8800.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
一個假行為一個以行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8800.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8802.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
原來以行為是較重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8802.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8804.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
那現在假行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8804.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8806.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
他的裁罰較高的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8806.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8808.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
怕會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8808.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8810.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
以行為他本來較重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8810.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8812.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8812.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8814.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
那這整個體系原來設計時有一個裁罰的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8814.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8816.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
各項的體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8816.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8818.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
因他輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8818.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8820.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
所以是不是容許我們有兩週的盤點的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8820.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8822.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
將這個整個裁罰體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8822.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8824.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
對照委員需加重的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8824.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8826.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
做比較嚴整的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8826.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8828.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
然後再來提一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8828.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8830.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
那我這邊還是要再講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8830.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8832.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
我們一定是守護兒童權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8832.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8834.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
但是也要注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8834.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8836.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
就是說相關的罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8836.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8838.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
並不要讓剛剛你說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8838.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8840.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
假行為跟以行為所造成他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8840.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8842.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
不對等而變成他沒辦法去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8842.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8844.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
我們還是一貫的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8844.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8846.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
就是對好人要更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8846.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8848.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
對壞人要更壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8848.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8850.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
所以隱匿執行不報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8850.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8852.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
包庇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8852.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8854.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
這樣的行為應該加重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8854.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8856.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
但是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8856.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8858.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
我們相關的機構 |
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8858.59 |
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8860.59 |
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管理人 |
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8860.59 |
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8862.59 |
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的一個負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8862.59 |
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8864.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
他如果是充分配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8864.59 |
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8866.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
也應該要給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8866.59 |
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8868.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
一個相關的制度保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8868.59 |
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8870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
這部分我希望你們再研擬一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8872.74 |
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8874.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8874.74 |
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8876.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
可以嗎 |
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8876.74 |
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8878.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
4346 |
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8878.74 |
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8880.74 |
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好保留 |
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8880.5 |
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8882.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那因為跟46是連動 |
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8882.5 |
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8884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
所以我們也保留好不好 |
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8884.5 |
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8886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
讓你再有時間研議一下 |
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8886.5 |
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8888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
這個部分拜託一下 |
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8888.94 |
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8890.94 |
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OK |
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8890.95 |
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8892.95 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8891.84 |
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8893.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8895.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8897.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8898.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8900.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
休息五分鐘 |
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8917.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8922.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
對啊 |
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8922.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
然後我一定會在這過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8924.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8926.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
還協商 |
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8926.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
一直協商協商到你的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8930.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
因為我不會就直接 |
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8930.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
送表情這個我可以跟你打個招呼 |
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8932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
因為他比較複雜 |
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8934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8936.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
我們把對清楚 |
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8936.9 |
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8938.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
直接協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8938.9 |
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8940.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
協商 |
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8940.9 |
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8942.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
在委員會協商 |
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8942.9 |
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8944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
協商 |
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8944.9 |
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8946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
你要我出嘛 |
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8946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
像上次我們講過 |
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8948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8950.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
五等分20% |
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8950.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8952.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
我也就聽我們一切 |
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8954.53 |
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8956.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
反正就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8956.53 |
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8958.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
強過沒有好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8958.33 |
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8960.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8960.27 |
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8962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
現在以上相關條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8966.97 |
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8968.97 |
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跟你們講 |
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8968.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
今天的節目 |
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8970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
一五二月性能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
一五二月性能 |
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8983.99 |
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8985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
9013.99 |
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9015.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
看是否需交由黨團協商 |
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9017.37 |
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9019.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
9019.37 |
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9021.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
需交由黨團協商 |
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9021.37 |
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9023.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
因為會討論時由羅廷瑋召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
9023.37 |
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9025.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
補充說明 |
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9025.37 |
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9027.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
那我們也希望為求 |
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9027.37 |
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9029.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
這個條文更加的明確 |
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9029.37 |
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9031.37 |
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我們再多辦幾次協商 |
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9031.37 |
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9033.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
讓條文更加明確 |
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9033.37 |
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9035.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
那協商的部分 |
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9035.37 |
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9037.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
兩個禮拜後才會排 |
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9037.37 |
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9039.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
因為剛剛教育部有統一說明 |
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9039.37 |
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9041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
我們兩個禮拜的時間 |
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9041.37 |
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9043.37 |
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給你們調查了解 |
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9043.37 |
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9045.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
有更謹慎的文字出來 |
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9045.37 |
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9047.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
我們才會進下一段的處理 |
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9047.37 |
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9049.37 |
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那為求謹慎 |
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9049.37 |
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9051.37 |
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我們就等待你們教育部 |
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9051.37 |
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9053.37 |
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好不好 |
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9053.37 |
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9055.37 |
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以上有意見 |
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9055.39 |
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9057.39 |
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好沒有意見 |
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9058.65 |
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9060.65 |
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報告委員會下午議程處理完畢 |
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9060.65 |
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9062.65 |
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現在散會謝謝 |
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9064.3 |
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9066.3 |
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謝謝 |
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9072.08 |
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9074.08 |
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謝謝 |
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9075.14 |
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9077.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
謝謝 |
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9078.09 |
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9080.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
謝謝 |
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9085.01 |
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9087.01 |
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謝謝 |
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9089.6 |
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9091.6 |
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我可以以為有要拍照嗎 |
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9092.26 |
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9094.26 |
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不要啦 |
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9109.12 |
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9111.12 |
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我們先看右邊 |
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9111.97 |
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9113.97 |
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好來 |
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9113.59 |
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9115.59 |
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謝謝 |
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9115.84 |
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9117.84 |
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好中間 |
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9118.13 |
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9120.13 |
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謝謝 |
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9121.46 |
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9123.46 |
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好最後開始 |
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9127.18 |
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9129.18 |
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好謝謝大家費了謝謝 |
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