| IVOD_ID |
17699 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17699 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
27 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-26T08:34:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-26T11:07:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:32:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db7928296430210a06a73b733858125fdec4e1634621e7662560d119cc47fa589f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第27次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、財政部首長、金融監督管理委員會首長、財團法人中小企業信用保證基金首長、國家科學及技術委員會首長就「中小微新企業發展困境、政策需求及政府資源配置與執行成效」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:34:03 - 11:07:00 |
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| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
1569.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
1573.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
好,我們現在會議開始,請逐密報告出席人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
1574.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
1577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
報告委員會出席委員五人以足法定人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
1578 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1582.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
好,我們現在開會進行報告思想,請宣讀上次會議一示錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1583.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1587.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
立法院第十一屆第五會籍經濟委員會第二十六次全體委員會議示錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
1587.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
時間115年8月19日星期三9時至11時31分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1593.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
地點紅樓101會議室 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1593.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1595.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
足球委員陳廷輝等14人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1595.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1597.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
練習委員洪孟凱等8人 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1597.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
練習委員經濟部政務次長何進昌 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
國家發展委員會副主任委員彭麗霈 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
運動部政務次長黃啟王等 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
主席召集委員邱志偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1609.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
報告四項,一,宣讀上次會議示錄,決定、確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1609.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1612.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
二,邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1612.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1614.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
運動部首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1614.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
行政人公共工程委員會首長、財政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長及文化部首長就 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
參考國際經驗加速推動我國大型多功能智慧運動管建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1628.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
完善北中南區域佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1628.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
健全開發營運機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
改善職業運動環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1633.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
促進運動產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1633.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1637.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
擴大展演及以觀光經濟之綜合評估進行報告並備質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1637.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1641.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
經濟部部長何進昌、國家發展委員會副主任委員彭麗霈 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1641.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
運動部政務次長黃啟王及財政部推動促成時事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1645.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
張祝珍報告後 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1645.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
委員陳迪飛等14人提出質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
經營運動部政務次長黃啟王等及其答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1651.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1654.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
決定一登記發言委員處不在場指外 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1654.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1656.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
區域區已發言完畢 尋答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1656.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1660.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
二為傅坤琦、邱益盈、徐希盈、蘇貞昌、朱青全 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1660.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
張家晉及楊雅虹所提書面質詢6日紀錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1668.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
三書面質詢後為其答覆部分請相關單位一週內以書面答覆並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1668.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1671.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
委員另有要求期限者重新鎖定上會宣布完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1672.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1675.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
好 那在場委員人數還不足三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1675.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1677.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
議事會等一下確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1677.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
那接下來我們繼續進行報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1681.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1686.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、財政部首長、經濟觀光委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1686.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
首長、財團法人、中小企業信用保證基金首長、國家科學及技術委員會首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1694.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1702.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
就中小型、中小微星企業發展困境、政策需求及政府資源備至於執行成效進行報告並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1702.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1704.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
宣布完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1704.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
好 我們介紹一下今天到場的這個機關首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1713.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
首先經濟部政務次長何建昌 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1714.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1718.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
財政小級新創企業署首長李冠志 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1719.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1721.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
產業發展署副署長陳國軒 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1724.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
商發署副署長陳秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1725.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1727.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
國貿署副署長陳佩莉 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1728.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1732.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
財團法人、中小企業信保基金總經理郭玉信 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1736.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
國家發展委員會副署長方冠 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1738 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1740 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
產業發展署署長蕭正隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1741.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1745.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
行政院國家發展經理會副執行事名聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1746.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1748.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
財政部副署署署長樓美中 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1750.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1753.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
京廣會副署長樓維珍 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1757.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
財國科會副署長吳顯飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1759.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
再來的話是 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1762.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1766.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
中科管理局副署長額思元芳 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1772.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1787.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
本日專題報告排定中小企業發展困境政策需求及政府資源配置與執行成效進行報告並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1804.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
主席、各位委員、各位女士、各位先生大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1804.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1814.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
感謝郭委員為邀請經濟部就中小微新企業發展困境政策需求及政府資源配置與執行成效進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1814.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1816.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
進行各位委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1816.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1820.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
中小微企業為我國經濟韌性之核心基石 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1820.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
根據2025年中小企業白平蘇統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1829.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
我國中小微企業的加速達到171.6萬家 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1830.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1835.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
更承載全國約八成920萬人的勞動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1836.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1841.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
在出口貢獻上中小微企業創造了高達3.2兆的出口金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1841.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1845.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
銷售額佔全體企業比例達79.3% |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1845.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1849.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
更是推動區域平衡與地方創生的核心解放 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1850.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1853.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
在全球地緣政治與經濟情勢變動下 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1853.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1860.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
中小微新企業正面臨以下類的嚴峻的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1860.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1862.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
包括全球供應鏈重組 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1867.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
地緣政治的風險以及數位轉型與淨零轉型的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1867.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1871.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
還有人才缺口以及技術快速演進的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1875.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
因此經濟部在114年1月14日 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1875.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
正式啟動中小微企業多元振興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1885.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
以數位轉型、淨零轉型、通路發展等三大策略為核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1885.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1891.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
扶椅針對30人以下的企業提供數位負能與普惠貸款的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1891.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
修正中小企業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1897.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
擴大加薪及增固員工租稅抵減的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1897.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1904.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
以及將加薪納入中小企業信保基金加碼保證額度等三大配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1904.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1905.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
並建立單一服務窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1905.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
那以下三策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
包括數位轉型、淨零轉型以及通路發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1919.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
以及三配套協助30人以下中小微企業轉型協助及優惠貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1919.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1921.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
以及提供租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1921.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
以及鼓勵為員工加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1923.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1929.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
額外提供3500萬保證融資貸款額度的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1935.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
還有一窗口由經濟部設立馬善辦服務中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1935.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1936.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
作為單一窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1936.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
並設置莊區的這個網站提供企業查詢計畫資源與資訊管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
以及經濟部提供中小企業創新研發補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1951.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
等等的這些相關的執行成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1951.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1954.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
因為時間的關係就請各位委員參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1954.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1957.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那未來持續進進的措施的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
為強化中小微企業及傳統產業的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
本部課政展開大幅修訂中小企業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1970.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
為中小微企業轉型升級發展條例的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1970.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1976.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
透過法制的方式來擴大中小微轉型升級發展的政策適用的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1976.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
涵蓋微型企業健身、小型企業壯大、中型企業升級、新創企業拔尖 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1984.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
四大對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
同時從116年度開始以每年250億金額的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
來協助中小微企業升級轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
同時提出加碼創新研發支出抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2000.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
新增轉型設備投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2000.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2004.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
放寬增固員工適用年齡及提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2005.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2008.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
基層員工加薪減儲率等多項租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2008.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
並增設新創專家以強化新創企業的採購與融資機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2020.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
另外在執行面方面除持續深化數位轉型、淨零轉型以及通路部件 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2020.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2023.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
等三大核心之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2023.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
也在加入修法後新增群聚共融以及新創拔尖等幾項策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2033.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2038.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
那以下策略的執行內容也請各位委員來參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2038.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
最後做個結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2044.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
經濟部致力於將高科技產業的進步紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2044.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
轉化為百工百業的轉型助力 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
若使以高科技產業帶動中小微及傳統產業升級發展的施政願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2059.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
未來經濟部將會以中小微企業轉型升級發展條例為法制基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2059.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2062.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
自116年度起投入加倍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2062.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
擴大照顧層面及提高租稅優惠等措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2071.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
作為我國百萬中小微企業及新創企業最堅實的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2071.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2075.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
攜手邁向全民共榮與包容成長的卓越未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2075.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2076.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2076.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2078.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
敬請各位委員指正事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2078.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2079.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
好謝謝何次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
接下來我們請國發會副主委張芳冠報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2090.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2092.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2092.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2095.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
各位先進今天很榮幸邀到會員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2095.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2101.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
就中小微企業發展相關的議題以及政府的政策及成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2101.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2103.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
敬請各位委員不吝赤教 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2103.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2107.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
那從剛剛的經濟部報告我們也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2107.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2112.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
中小微企業跟創新創業都是我們政府這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2112.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2114.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
我們臺灣經濟發展的重要基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2114.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
也是近年政府施政的一個重點項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
那本會跟國發基金長期以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2120.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2122.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
主要是透過多元融資與投資的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2122.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2124.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
來協助這些企業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2124.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
那此外也協同經濟部國科會等 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
致力推動打造創新創業與林生態系的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2134.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
其能透過新創事業的創新活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2134.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2136.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
來帶領產業的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2136.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2139.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
那在政府與民間共同的努力下 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2139.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2142.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
目前國內新創的家數已經突破一萬家 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2142.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
那獲得的金額也超過了千億元新臺幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
以下我們會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2149.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2153.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
融資保證投資活絡人才延攬與市場開拓等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2153.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
面向來做更細部的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
第一點是有關於這個多元融資與信用保證方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那國發基金主要是透過與銀行共同出資或支付手續費的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2168.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
來這個委託金融機構辦理像機器設備申請貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2168.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2170.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
海外投融資貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2170.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2172.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
還有地方創生等等工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2172.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2175.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
那協助中華企業來購置資本化的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2175.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2177.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
開拓國際市場及區域發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2177.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
那有關於青年創業及中華企業的創新貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
我想經濟部剛剛已經說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
有相關的許多措施來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2188.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
那第二項是有關於投資的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2188.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2191.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
那為了協助早期的這些新創的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2191.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2194.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
那國發基金有創業天使的投資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2194.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2198.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
那我們最近也把額度由原來的50億元擴大到100億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2198.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
那目前已經成功投資了308家的新創公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2206.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
投資了金額超過44億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2206.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
也帶動了民間的資金共同投資超過191億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2213.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那除了這些天使投資以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2213.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2216.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
那國發基金也跟很多部會合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2216.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
針對中小企業、AI、綠色成長、智慧機器人等這些重要的策略性產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
來推動專案型的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那第三點是有關於擴大投資的標的跟人才的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2232.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
那最近本會為了帶動國內的創業風潮跟均衡台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2232.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2234.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
辦你的創業綻放競賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2234.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那獲得了廣大的迴響 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
有2800組創業團隊熱烈的參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
那最後選出了100組潛力團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2241.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
那有3億元以上的創業支持金 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2244.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2250.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
來同時也透過實戰的課程跟專業的實質輔導來加速其成長茁壯 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2250.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
那在人才方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2256.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
本會是透過外國專業人才延攬及雇用法以及就業金卡等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2256.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
來協助延攬海外專業人才及新創企業家來台 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
那此外我們也跟經濟部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2268.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
有建置這個新創資訊的平台來降低市場資訊不對稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2273.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那最後有關於打造國際聚落與鏈結全球資源方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2273.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2282.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
除了經濟部跟國客會有在這個台灣的林口高雄以及台北能建置這個國際新創基地之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2282.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2286.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
那在國際方面為了加速國內新創的拓展國際市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2286.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2290.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我們也推動了國家新創品牌Starup Island Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2290.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2294.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
同時在矽谷跟日本東京都設立了海外新創基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2294.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2298.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那同時政府相關部會包含國客會 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2298.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
也會帶領新創團隊參與國外的大展向美國的CES |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2310.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
還有本會跟經濟部也都跟著名的學府像柏克萊史丹佛大學等合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2310.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
來協助新創人才的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
那最後是有關於推動地方創生的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
那本會為了推動均衡台灣減少成像誤差 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
也持續進行地方創生的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2322.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那最近推動的3.0也匡列了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2326.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
60億元的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2332.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
以永續工藝、共好等方式來透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2332.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2335.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
培立在地青年增加多元途徑 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2335.12 |
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2338.32 |
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環顫基礎建設等等方式來推動 |
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2338.32 |
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2341.84 |
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目前已經成立了148個青年的培育工作坊 |
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2341.84 |
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2347.36 |
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那同時也鼓勵了地方創生的這個計畫超過300件以上 |
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2351.12 |
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那也謝謝蕭委在8月24號也召開公聽會 |
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2351.12 |
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2355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
那我們也詳細記錄了與會專家學者提的主要的建議 |
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2356.16 |
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2358.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
譬如說建置這個資訊揭露的平台 |
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2358.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2362.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
譬如說要加強吸引海外的創投 |
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2362.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
譬如說怎麼透過這個容積獎勵來 |
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2367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2370.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
這個協助空間的釋出作為新創使用 |
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2370.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
還有像這個健全沙盒的實驗與重生機制等等 |
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2374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
那這點我們都會列為本會以及將來跟各部會 |
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2379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
大家一起來推動中小微新企業這個相關政策的重要參考 |
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2383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2385.52 |
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那除了以上的說明以外 |
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2390.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那政府正在研議中小微企業轉型升級發展條例 |
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2390.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
也期待這個未來大院能夠鼎力的支持 |
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2393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
以上報告進行指教 謝謝 |
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2398.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2402.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
好 我們謝謝這個張分官副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2402.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2405.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
接下來我們請這個財政部附說署 |
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2405.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
留美專屬的報告 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2418.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
主席各位委員以及各位與會先進大家早安 |
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2422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2427.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
那今天很榮幸能夠代表財政部來就協助中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2428.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2433.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
發展的租稅優惠措施以及振興融資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2437.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
及相關的這個成效來提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2437.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2439.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
請各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2439.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2443.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
那為了促進中小企業的健全發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2443.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2447.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
本部配合經濟部在中小企業發展條例 |
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2447.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2452.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
訂定了專屬中小企業的租稅優惠措施 |
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2452.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2456.4 |
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那主要有包括研究發展支出的投資抵減 |
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2456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2462.08 |
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那增固員工以及員工加薪薪資費用的加成減除 |
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2462.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
那有助於橫平中小企業的發展 |
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2465.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2471.76 |
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鼓勵中小企業投入自主研發創新加薪留住人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2471.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
以及運用多元的增固員工來提升競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
那鑒於近年國際經濟情勢的快速變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2486.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
中小微企業也面臨了這個經營環境的日益延續 |
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2486.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
以及產業轉型等的多重挑戰 |
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2490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2493.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
那為了協助中小微企業的經營環境 |
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2493.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2498 |
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並因應企業發展以及轉型的需求 |
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2498 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2506.16 |
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本部目前正配合經濟部來研擬中小企業發展條例的修正草案 |
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2506.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
針對中小企業的特性來優化現行相關的租稅優惠措施 |
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2512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2517.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
希望能夠營造更有利於中小微企業發展 |
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2517.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2522.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
以及升級轉型的租稅環境 |
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2523.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2528.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
那以下我就針對現行我們在中小企業發展條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2528.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2532.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
相關租稅措施的內容以及實施的成效 |
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2532.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2535.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
來跟大家做一個簡要的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2535.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2541.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
那有關中小企業它如果符合這個規定的研究發展支出 |
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2541.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2545.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
在當年度它可以抵減15% |
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2545.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2551.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
或者選擇分三年抵減10%的這個投資抵減的優惠 |
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2551.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
那從103年度實施一直到114年度 |
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2556.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2561.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
累計申請的件數已經有3205件 |
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2561.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
那研究發展支出的金額總計也高達新台幣774.45億元 |
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2570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
那我們就單年度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2578.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
114年度申請的件數以及它研究發展支出的金額 |
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2578.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
分別為361件以及107.9億元 |
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2583.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2587.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
這個跟實施初期也就差不多103年的時候 |
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2587.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2589.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
已經有大幅度的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2589.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2593.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
那另外有關中小企業增固員工 |
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2593.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2597.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
它的薪資費用可以加成減除的這個優惠 |
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2597.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2604.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
我們從113年8月7號修正增固員工適用的範圍 |
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2604.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
它修正擴大為24歲以下 |
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2607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
以及65歲以上的本國籍基層員工 |
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2612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
而且提高它的那個薪資費用的減除率為200% |
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2618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2621.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
那根據我們的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2621.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2625.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
113年度以及114年度 |
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2625.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2627.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
申報適用這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2627.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2633.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
就增固員工租稅優惠的加速一共有207家 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2634.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
增固的員工有2260人 |
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2638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2643.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
那增固員工的薪資總額高達3.28億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2643.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
那另外我們也針對中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2648.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
如果對員工加薪 |
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2648.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2651.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
那它的加薪費用可以加成減除 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2651.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
那這個優惠也在113年8月7號有修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2660.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
那它的薪資費用的減除率 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2660.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
有原來的130%提高為175% |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
那一樣我們統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2672.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
過去兩年113年跟114年適用的加速 |
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2672.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2675.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
一共有1553家 |
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2675.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2681.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
那適用加薪的人次高達75,838人 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2681.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2682.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
那這個部分呢 |
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2682.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
也是跟過去以往實施的年度都有大幅的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2689.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
那除了剛跟大家報告 |
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2689.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
有關中小企業發展條例裡面 |
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2692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2695.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
我們提供的租稅優惠以外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2695.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
那為了優化產業結構 |
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2697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2700.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
以及協助產業升級轉型 |
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2700.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2704.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
我們也配合經濟部在產創條例裡面 |
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2704.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2708.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
也提供了有關資金面人才面技術面 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2708.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2711.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
多項功能的租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2711.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2712.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
那這一些優惠呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2712.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2714.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
只要中小企業符合規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2714.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2716.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
它也都可以適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2716.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
可以進一步的來協助中小企業 |
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2719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2721.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
能夠提升它的競爭力 |
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2721.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
以及強化的產業韌性 |
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2723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
那有關這個融資協助的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2733.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
本部督導宮古銀行在112年的4月起 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2733.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2739.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
以自有資金來推動中小微型企業振興融資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2739.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
從開辦以來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2745.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那適度的擴增了融資的總額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2745.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
從原來的3000億元逐步調高到新台幣3兆元 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2753.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
那這個部分呢 |
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2753.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2757.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
而且我們這個實施的期限也延長到明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2757.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2759.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
也就是116年底 |
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2759.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2765.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
那這個部分是有助於協助中小企業營運以及轉型發展 |
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2765.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2767.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
提升它的產業競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2767.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2769.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
強化它的經營韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2769.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2773.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
統計到115年7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2773.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2775.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
也就是今年的7月底舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2775.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2785.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
我們就是宮古行庫一共核貸了2782億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2785.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2788.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
所以這個部分對中小企業有實質的幫助 |
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2788.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2790.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
那最後要跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2790.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
我們為了促進經濟轉型以及國家的永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們會持續的關注國際經濟情勢以及產業的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2799.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2805.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
在兼顧財政收入租稅公平以及稅政簡化的原則下 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2805.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
來配合政府的政策以及產業的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
滾動檢討相關的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2815.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
以上請各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2815.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2816.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2816.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
好 謝謝財政部副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2820.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
接下來的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2825.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
因為我們目前在場人數有三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2825.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2828 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
請問各位同仁上次會議事務有無錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2828.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2830.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
沒有錯誤我們議事都確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
接下來我們請國科會副署長吳行飛報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
四分鐘 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2848.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2852.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
主席各位委員先進大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2852.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
感謝各位委員對中小微星企業發展的關切與重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2861 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
面對全球供應鏈重組 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2861 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2864.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
AI應用及淨零轉型等等挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2864.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2867.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
本會結合台灣科技新創基地TTA |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2867.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
跟三大科學園區的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2870.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2873.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
全力提供優質的場域培育人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2873.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2875.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
及推動國際鏈結 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2875.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2879.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
以下緊就推動措施跟成效進行經驗的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2879.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2881.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
請各位委員能夠知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2881.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
第一個是台灣科技創新基地TTA四大推動策略跟成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2886.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
我們在其中有第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2888.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
建立優質評價的場域跟專業服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2890.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2893.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
我們透過TTA南北雙基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2893.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
串聯北中南科技產業聚落 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2896.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
並持續串聯專利、制裁、法務、會計及人才、招募等等專業服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
我們的金租率都超過九成以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2904.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
累積辦理了超過兩千場的媒合活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
第二是引進加速期的輔導跟資金的募集 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2916.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
引進國內外具有產業跟投資能量的加速期 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2916.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
提供新創 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2918.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2924.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
產業模式、市場定位、資金募集、企業鏈結跟國際投產等等的專業輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2924.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2928.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
目前共引進15家國內外的加速期 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2928.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
累積已經培育了1190家的科技新創 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
第三個模式是企業出題新創解題 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
讓企業跟新創能夠共創 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2943.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
推動企業出題新創解題的合作模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2943.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2947.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
協助企業導入人工智慧、智慧製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2947.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2950.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
以及創新科技並行場域的驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2950.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
註定產業數位轉型被基礎成46萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2956.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
訂單的規模也超過1.9億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2957.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
最後協助方式是連結國際市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
剛剛國發會的長官有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2968.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我們帶領團隊每年參加美國的CS展跟法國的VIVA TEC展 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2968.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
由新創跟工業共同參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2976.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
累積帶領了1398家次的新創參展 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2976.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2979.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
獲得了57座的國際獎項 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2979.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2983.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
第二大部分是在科學園區的一個多元服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2988.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
科學園區目前在產學合作跟新興科技的計畫上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2988.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2992.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
我們總共在今年度核定了29間計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2992.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2993.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
補助1.39億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2993.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2996.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
帶動廠商投入研發達1.65億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2996.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2999.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
人才培育我們總共也核定了35間計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2999.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3001.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
補助超過2000萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
3001.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
3003.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
培育1800 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
3005.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
3008.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
1878人次以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
3008.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
3011.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
最後在扶植創新創業方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
3011.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
3015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
在竹科提供竹青亭、藍青亭的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
3015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
3018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
中科創新基地以及南科創業的工坊 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
3018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
3020.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
我們也有扶植數百個團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
3020.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
3023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
已經有超過600家成立公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
3023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
3027.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
最後國科會將會持續落實跨部會的一個支援整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
3027.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
3029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
針對新創不同發展階段的尋求 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
3029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
3034.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
透過場域服務、資金引導、企業工創、國際拓展四大軸線 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
3034.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
3036.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
鏈接政府跟民間的支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
3036.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
3038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
協助科技新創 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
3038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
3041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
能夠提升為具有國際經濟力的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
3041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
3044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
帶動我國產業創新轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
3044.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
3044.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
3046.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3049.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
好,謝謝國科會的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3049.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3053.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
有關本次會議各部會所提出的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3053.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
請委員自行參閱並刊登空報 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
3056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3058.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
現在進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
3058.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
質詢權原律最以下宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
3061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
3064.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
每位委員發言時間本會員6分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
3064.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
3066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
必要時的延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
3066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
3068.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
非本會委員4分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
3068.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
3071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
上午10點零分截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
3071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
3074.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
首先請登記第一位的陳廷飛委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
3081.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
3083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
謝謝主席,我們是請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
3085.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
3086.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
好,我們請何處長,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
3091.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
3092.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
陳委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
3092.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
3093.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
3093.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
3097.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
次長,我想這幾天我們南部真的是下了很大雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
3097.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
3099.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
我也知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
3099.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
3103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
你們次長有分別不一樣的一個主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
3103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
3108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
所以呢,我們的賴次大概都在南部的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
3108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
3112 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
了解為什麼這一次在 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
3112 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
3113.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
這樣的一個即時雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
3113.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
3118.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
到底我們要做哪些緊急在做應變的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
3118.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
3120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
尤其我們要面對的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
3120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
3121.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
3121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
3123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
這個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
3123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3124.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
好,我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
3125.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
他遠離我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
但是我們不論怎麼樣的集氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3130.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
祈禱 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
3130.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3133.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
我們還是要做萬全的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
3133.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
所以說面對這四五六日 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
3137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
本來是說六個日 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
3138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
然後現在有可能會提早 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3143.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
所以在這樣的一個前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3143.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3144.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3144.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3147.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我們一定要再做好更萬全的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
3147.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3148.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3148.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3151.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
我們感謝在這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3151.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3153.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
其實不論是我們的賴次 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3153.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3156.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
或是我們的國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
3156.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3157.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
水利署 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3157.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
都親自到我們台南的地方去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
3162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
那賴次總統昨天也親自到了台南去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3172.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
可以說這幾天幾乎就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3172.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3175.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
掛在媒體上面的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3175.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3177.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
就是人的永康 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3177.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
大概這幾天的下雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
這幾個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3181.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3182.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3183.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
雞哄 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3184.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3185.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
就會淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3185.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3189.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
這個其實看在我們自己身為台南人 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3189.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3190.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
真的內心 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3190.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3192.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
很多的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3192.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3194.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
可是我們必須說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3194.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3197.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
如果沒有前面賴次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
3197.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3200.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
還有我們的黃市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3200.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3202.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
他們所做的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3203.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3204.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
包括沖水站 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3204.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3205.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
包括香涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3205.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3207.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
包括排水系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3208.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
如果依照這三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
我們累積雨量是沒有輸莫拉克 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3215.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
是沒有輸莫拉克 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3215.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3217.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
如果在這樣的前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3217.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3221.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
我們從過去莫拉克的淹水面積 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3221.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
我們瞬間縮小了 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3227 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
雖然我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3227 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
淹水我們就要趕快去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
要怎麼再加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3232 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3233.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
我也一直在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3233.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
我們一定要進入到另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3239.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
所謂區域治水的一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3240.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3241.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
就是大家記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3241.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
我們過去小孩的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
走去到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
我們旁邊可能有殘風 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
可能有雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3251.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
可能有抗體 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3252.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3254.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
但是現在已經不是了 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3254.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3256.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
現在我們旁邊走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3256.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
都是高樓大廈 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
還有我們所有的水泥地 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
跟過去的前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3264.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
可以慢慢倒地水 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3264.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3266.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
現在已經都不行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3266.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
現在就變成要把水倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3272.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
看要怎麼來集入 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3272.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3274.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
我們的整個集水區 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3274.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3277.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
然後能夠進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3277.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3279.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
我們的抽水系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3279.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3281.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
這個是現在不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3282.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3283.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3283.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3285.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
當我們在談治水 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3287.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3287.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3289.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
會嚴陣一待 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3289.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
而且也無止盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3292.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3294.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
並不是說前面花的都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3294.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3297.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
其實我們在南部地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3297.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3298.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我們聽到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3298.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3300.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
過去的水都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3300.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3301.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
不是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3302.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
5號 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3303.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3305.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
如果沒有前面開的那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3305.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3307.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
在最有損 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3307.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3309.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3310.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
南部淹的會更嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3311.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3313.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
因為南部地方過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3313.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3315.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
太多的田地 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3315.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3317.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
太多的餘溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3317.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3319.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
太多的空地 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3319.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
可是現在我們的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
全部都往上提 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
所以我必須說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3328.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
我們要加強的是一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3328.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3330.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
關鍵而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3330.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3332.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
瓶頸路段 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
就是說我們做了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
可是就差在這瓶頸 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
如果我們多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3339.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3341.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
一點幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3341.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3343.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
多了一些可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3343.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3345.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
來裝水的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
面對及時雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3347.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3349.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
面對這些瞬間的雨量 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3351.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3353.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3352.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
我們就可以在短時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
來幫忙民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
更多的安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3360.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3360.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3362.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我相信這些是我們這幾天以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
我們所想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3367.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
而且已經有提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3367.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
昨天賴總統已經直接跟我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
拜託水利署 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
跟這個國土署 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3375.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
要趕快來幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
因為我們這幾天幾乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
就是在瞭解為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3381.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3383.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
要哄呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3384.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
三野溪在六月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3384.75 |
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3386.75 |
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差一點議題 |
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3387.08 |
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3389.08 |
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我們發現就是他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3388.99 |
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3390.99 |
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提防不夠 |
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3390.4 |
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3392.4 |
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也就是他的容量不夠了 |
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3392.82 |
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3394.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
我們加高了30公分 |
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3394.82 |
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3396.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
30公分有沒有幫忙 |
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3396.82 |
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3398.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
有30公分在 |
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3398.82 |
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3402.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
那個時候我們瞬間在還沒有預算 |
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3402.82 |
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3404.82 |
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我們用緊急搶救的部分 |
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3404.82 |
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3406.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
加高了30公分 |
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3406.28 |
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3408.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
讓我們三野溪這一次 |
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3409.03 |
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3411.03 |
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一點點 |
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3411.03 |
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3413.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
加了30公分還差一點點 |
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3413.03 |
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3415.03 |
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你想如果沒有加這30公分 |
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3415.03 |
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3417.03 |
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是不是又議題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
好我們後續還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3421.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
9500萬因為那是緊急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3421.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3423.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
還有繼續要延伸再加高30公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3423.84 |
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3425.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
9500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3425.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3427.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
如果再加上周邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3427.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3429.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
我們總共包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3429.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3431.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們湖尾寮水資中心 |
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3431.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3433.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
因為這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3433.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3435.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
仁德的高速公路 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3436.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3438.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
萬代橋這裡都淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3438.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3440.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
文心都淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3440.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3442.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
我們發現這邊如果沒有幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3442.74 |
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3444.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
加做抽水站的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3444.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3446.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
是不行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3446.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3448.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
所以我們在湖尾寮水資中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3448.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3450.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
測測到我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3450.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3452.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
來增加我們的抽水基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3452.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3454.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
好然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3454.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3456.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
在我們高工局下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3458.16 |
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3460.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
也就是在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3460.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3462.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
湖尾寮水資中心的對面 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3462.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3464.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
這裡目前我們裝了兩台 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3464.16 |
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3466.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
零食 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3466.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3468.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3467.37 |
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3469.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
但是有沒有發揮作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3469.37 |
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3471.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
有發揮作用 |
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3471.37 |
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3473.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
所以我們認為這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3473.37 |
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3475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
要去檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3477.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
如果他真的可以做為 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3477.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3479.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
永久性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3479.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
成水式的抽水機 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
抽水站那麼我們就要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3485.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
高工局借這塊土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3485.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
所以當天 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
市長有拜託我們水利局 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3491.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
趕快做評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
我覺得現在要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
如果那個就差那一點點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
我們就要馬上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3497.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3499.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
而且再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3499.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3501.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
我們在發現 |
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3501.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3503.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3503.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
我們外水 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3504.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3506.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
量 |
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3505.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
我們有加大可是內水 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3509.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
要抽出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
所以我們一定要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
這個香含還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
潛質的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3515.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3517.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
幫忙倒帶水 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
讓我們來抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
所以我們也在積極找說 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我們還可以在哪裡設抽水機 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
抽水站 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3527.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
能夠把外水 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3526.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3528.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
能夠內水的部分抽到外水 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3529.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3531.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
這都是我們現在積極在 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3531.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3533.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
了解然後還有一個就 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3533.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3535.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
我們永康大灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3535.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3537.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
因為三野溪跟大灣這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3537.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3539.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
同流域的然後大灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3539.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3541.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
大灣也是淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3541.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3543.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3543.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3545.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
就在尋找如何去裝水 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3545.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3547.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
所以呢在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3547.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3549.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
在大灣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3549.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3551.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
我們昆大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3551.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3553.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
前面這條香海 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
這條香海一定要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
一點五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
然後我們也拜託了 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
昆大 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3560.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3562.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
崑山科技大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3562.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3564.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
我們真的很感謝學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3564.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3566.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
他願意提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3566.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3568.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
一塊兩千平的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3568.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3570.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
目前是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3570.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3572.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
自己在做網球場 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3572.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3574.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
還有牛棚 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3574.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3576.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
還有機車停車場 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3576.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3578.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
那麼他願意提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3578.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3580.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
那我們就要去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3580.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3582.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
雙贏的也就是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3582.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3584.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
提供之後我們要還給 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3584.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3586.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
人家現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3586.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3588.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
在用的這個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3588.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
我們不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
我們自紅石工做了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3594.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
讓人家自己做先做 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3594.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
不可能嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3596.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3598.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
我們一定要做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3598.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3600.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
多功能的立體 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
然後讓我們下面我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
是政府政府來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
上面還給人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3608.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3610.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
我們把它做好做滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3611.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3613.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
還給人家你不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3613.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3615.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3614.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3616.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
兩千平土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3616.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
愛我這一集 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3618.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3620.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
但是學校願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3620.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3624.36 |
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我覺得我們在昨天 |
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3624.36 |
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3626.36 |
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好像吃了一個定心丸 |
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3626.05 |
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3628.05 |
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讓我們這幾天再瞭解 |
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3628.05 |
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3630.05 |
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大灣到底哪邊 |
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3630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3632.05 |
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要增加我們的容水 |
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3632.05 |
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3634.05 |
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治水空間 |
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3634.32 |
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3636.32 |
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他們願意提供這個樣子 |
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3636.32 |
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3638.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
然後還有我們大灣的防汛道路 |
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3638.32 |
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3640.32 |
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我們要在下面 |
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3640.32 |
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3642.32 |
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做我們的 |
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3642.32 |
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3644.32 |
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湘涵增加我們的 |
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3644.32 |
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3646.32 |
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容水量 |
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3646.18 |
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3648.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
這個我現在講的都是 |
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3648.18 |
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3650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
必要做的 |
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3650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3652.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
我們就是如何去應付瞬間 |
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3653.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3655.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
那個集實雨現在的問題是 |
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3655.06 |
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3657.06 |
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我們的極端氣候 |
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3657.06 |
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3659.06 |
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大家說不要怪極端氣候 |
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3659.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3661.06 |
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我告訴你 |
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3660.25 |
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3662.25 |
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會說這句話的人就是沒有在看 |
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3663.37 |
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3665.37 |
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整個天氣的變化 |
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3665.37 |
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3667.37 |
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跟我們所有 |
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3667.37 |
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3669.37 |
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電影建設跟治水 |
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3669.37 |
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3671.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
所有的過程 |
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3670.95 |
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3672.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
會講這句話的人 |
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3672.95 |
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3674.95 |
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就是沒有在 |
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3674.95 |
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3676.95 |
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這個區塊從一路來 |
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3676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
陪伴大家走到今天 |
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3680.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3682.74 |
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我從巴巴 |
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3682.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3684.76 |
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莫拉克那個最嚴重 |
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3685.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3687.16 |
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我一路到現在 |
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3687.16 |
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3689.16 |
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每一個環節每一個台南的淹水 |
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3689.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3691.16 |
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都有看到陳庭飛 |
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3692.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3694.82 |
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所以我非常了解 |
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3694.81 |
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3696.81 |
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那個淹水的狀況 |
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3696.81 |
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3698.81 |
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我在跟市長說 |
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3698.81 |
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3700.81 |
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我讀小時候就住在淹水的地方 |
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3700.81 |
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3702.81 |
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小時候爸爸媽媽就說 |
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3702.81 |
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3704.81 |
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爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3707.12 |
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爸爸媽媽就說 |
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3707.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3711.12 |
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爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3733.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
爸爸媽媽叫你快點 |
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3707.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3709.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
光等星光隔骨 |
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3709.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3711.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
我一直跟自己說我們如何 |
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3711.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3713.92 |
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不要把小時候的淹水 |
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3713.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
能夠幫大家解決 |
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3716.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3718.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
所以市長 |
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3718.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
我們只要一淹水 |
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3720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
過去只要一淹水 |
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3722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
我一定都第一時間跑到現場 |
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3724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3726.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
為什麼 |
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3725.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3727.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
大家說你第一時間跑到現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3727.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3729.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
你的風靈我說風靈比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3730.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3732.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
讓民眾了解 |
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3732.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
現在的狀況 |
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3734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3736.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
還有水流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3737.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
你第一時間淹水的時候 |
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3739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3741.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
才知道它的流向 |
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3741.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3743.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
然後它水的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3745.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
那個是第一時間的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3747.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3749.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
然後民眾的罵聲是給你第二個經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3751.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
因為他們從昨天淹到現在 |
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3753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3755.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
很清楚整個狀況 |
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3756.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3758.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
所以我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3758.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
這個都是我們在這幾天 |
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3760.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
所看到 |
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3762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
嚴重的狀況而且必要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
那昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我們賴總統說會全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
為希望 |
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3770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
真的在現階段 |
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3773.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3775.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
我們台南繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3775.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3777.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
不要因為別人 |
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3777.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3779.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
不要因為一些政治立場的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3779.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3781.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
或是因為現在 |
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3781.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3783.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
開始要選舉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3783.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3785.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
有一些政治口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3786.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3788.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
我希望的是 |
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3788.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
能夠把這些 |
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3790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
我們前面已經看到成果 |
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3792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3794.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
我必須說如果沒有前面那些 |
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3794.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3796.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
台南因為還比較嚴重 |
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3796.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3798.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
民眾還比較多 |
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3798.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3800.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
然後再加上我們前階段 |
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3800.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3802.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
我也在這邊講過就是 |
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3802.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3804.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
安南區的時候六月份 |
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3804.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3806.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
安南區那個很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3806.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3808.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我們已經有編入預算 |
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3808.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3810.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
水利署的預算 |
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3810.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3812.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
然後所有都編入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3811.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3813.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
所以我們現在 |
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3813.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3817.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
是準備要怎麼把它趕快到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3817.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3819.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
等這個訊息過了 |
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3819.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3821.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我們趕快做 |
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3821.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3823.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
而且是不可以停 |
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3823.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3825.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
我們如果在明年訊息之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3825.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3827.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
給大家看到 |
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3827.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3829.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
有一些成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3829.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3831.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這是我們要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3831.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3833.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
也是我們要對人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3833.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3835.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
所許下的承諾 |
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3836.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3838.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
所以我會利用今天 |
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3838.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3840.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
這樣子真的這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
我們就在地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3842.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3844.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
然後看到那麼多淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3847.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3849.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
整個淹水面積比過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3849.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3851.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
八八減少非常非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3853.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3855.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
非常非常的多我必須這麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3855.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3857.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
可是看到民眾淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3857.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3859.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
我們都感到 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3859.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3861.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
我們最好可以給大家這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3863.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
居住安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
然後聽到喉聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
我們很歡樂連續三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
晚上我們都無法入眠 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3871.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3873.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
聽到雨聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3873.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
我們又開始跟水利署 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3877.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
還有我們的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3878.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3880.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
次長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3882.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3881.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3883.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
我好像是鬧鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3883.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3885.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
那知道我的腳是髒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3885.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3887.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
就知道我們台灣哪裡還有大陰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3887.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3889.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
我比氣象還準 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3890.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
我當天禮拜一 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3894.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
早上凌晨五點打給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3894.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3896.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
那時候剛好是 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3896.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3898.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
整個滿潮而且最嚴重的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3899.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3901.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
所以那下午就來看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3901.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3903.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
所以我相信這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3903.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
就是我們希望大家中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3907.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
大家同為一心 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3911.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3910.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
不要再這口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3913.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
將心比心 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3917.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
當我們在地方淚流出的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3917.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3919.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
可能你們口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3919.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3921.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
會比 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3921.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3923.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
淹水 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3922.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
會更毒舌 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3926.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3928.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
能夠盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3928.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3930.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
我現在擔心的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3929.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3931.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
因為這些的毒舌 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3931.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3933.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
讓你們不敢把錢再給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
所以我今天拜託次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
因為你管的是中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
但是我覺得經濟部就是一體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
水利署是一體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3945.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
我們水利署同仁有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3946.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3948.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
我們希望這個部分聽到我們的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3948.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3950.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
我也會把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3950.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3952.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
給我們這個簡報 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3954.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3956.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
給我們今天我們的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3957.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3959.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3959.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3961.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
因為我真的很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3961.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
因為一些口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3965.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
而忘記了治水 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3965.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3967.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3967.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3969.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3969.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3971.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
我想我們會跟南部幾個縣市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3971.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3973.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
這個水利單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3973.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3975.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
我們絕對會提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3975.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3977.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
這個治水的一個營運計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3977.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3979.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
我想這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3979.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3981.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
幾天下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3981.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3983.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
下了一千多公里的雨量 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3983.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3985.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
我想這個不管是下在哪個城市都 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3985.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3987.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
大概有幾個台南市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3987.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3989.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
淹水熱區 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3989.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
我想我們在次長也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3991.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3993.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
到現場去看過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3993.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3995.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
我絕對會跟地方政府這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3995.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3997.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3997.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3999.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
怎麼樣來把這樣的一個淹水的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3999.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4001.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
治理的一個工作能夠把它做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4001.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4003.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
我想這幾個都是我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4003.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4005.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
把它非常準確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
4005.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4007.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
就是這折了 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
4007.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4009.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
一定會有效果的 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
4009.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4011.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
所以要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4011.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
預算還是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
4013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4015.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
4015.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4017.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
好謝謝陳委員謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
4017.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4019.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
接下來有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
4019.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4021.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
洪昭偉質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
4028.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4030.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
好謝謝主席我們有請經濟部和次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4030.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4032.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
有請和次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
4039.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
4041.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
4041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
4045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
我想這個我看完你們的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
4045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
那我想就是台灣目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
4047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
根據你的報告大概有 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
171.6萬家的中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
4055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
大概佔我們全部企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4057.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
98.9% |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4057.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
當然也提供將近920萬個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4063.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
的一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4063.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4065.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
還有1萬5000多家的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4065.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
新創的一個事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4069.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
那你們的報告的話寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
中小微的新創企業五個困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
全球供應鏈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
重組地緣政治數位淨零轉型人才缺口 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4080.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
跟技術的一個快速的演進 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
4081.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4083.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
那當然也根據你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
4083.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
4085.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
以及我們找到的這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
4085.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
4087.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
中小企業營運觀測的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
4087.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4089.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
這個是你們中企署辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4089.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4091.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
另外一個是PWC |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4091.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4093.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
支城他所辦理這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4093.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
這個素材署 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
他的一個2022的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
現況跟需求調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4101.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4101.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4103.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
講的東西大概就是租稅減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
4104.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
金融支持節能設備的汰換補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
另外企業真正碰到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4110.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
經費不足 |
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4110.71 |
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4112.71 |
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缺乏數位技能等等 |
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4112.71 |
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4114.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
但是你們的報告這樣寫 |
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4114.71 |
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4116.71 |
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跟這個五大的困境 |
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4118.66 |
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4120.66 |
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有些可能對得起來 |
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4120.66 |
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4122.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
比如說你的數位可能就對到 |
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4122.66 |
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4124.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
素材署去的 |
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4124.66 |
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4126.66 |
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就是在數發部裡頭的數位轉型 |
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4126.66 |
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4128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
當然你們自己也有百工百業的數位轉型 |
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4128.66 |
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4130.66 |
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所以人才缺口 |
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4130.66 |
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4132.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
大概有 |
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4132.66 |
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4134.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
但是我的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4133.61 |
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4135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
我們在這裡頭所碰到的問題 |
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4137.27 |
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4139.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
到底你們每一年 |
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4139.27 |
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4141.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
或者是什麼時候 |
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4141.27 |
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4143.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
會做多少樣的一個調查 |
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4143.59 |
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4145.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
這個這個是不是可以請次長回答 |
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4146.47 |
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4148.47 |
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謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4148.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4150.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
那其實中小企業 |
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4150.47 |
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4152.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
他所面臨的挑戰產銷人發財 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4152.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
各式各樣的這些 |
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4154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
經營管理都會面臨 |
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4156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
那我們其實每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
都會發布中小企業白皮書 |
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4160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
在發布白皮書的時候 |
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4162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們就會點出相關的 |
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4164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
這個時代上 |
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4166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
中小企業所面臨到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
需要解決的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4172.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4172.47 |
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4174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
所以你這左邊五個在你的中小企業白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4174.47 |
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4176.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
有今年的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4176.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
是我們 我想這些都是 |
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4178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4180.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
這幾年來不管是 |
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4180.47 |
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4182.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
地緣政治或是全球的 |
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4182.47 |
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4184.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
有在今年的白皮書 |
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4184.47 |
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4186.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
都是在我們的 |
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4186.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4188.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
發現裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4188.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4190.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
我們看到這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4191.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4193.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
好 我現在的問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4193.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4195.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
到底這個東西 因為我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4195.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4197.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
我們政府每次做政策的計畫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4197.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4199.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
先花多一點資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4199.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4201.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
先去了解問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4201.26 |
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4203.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
問題的形成原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4203.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4205.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
第二個 我也建議你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4205.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4207.26 |
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就是 |
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4206.45 |
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4208.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
定期面對面去跟這些 |
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4208.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4210.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
中小微的企業接觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4210.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4212.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
那我也希望你們把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4212.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4214.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
每一年大概你要告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4214.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4216.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
比如說我們現在審116的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4216.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4218.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
所以大概你要接觸多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4218.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4220.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
中小微企業類型是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4220.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4222.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
那你每一次弄完之後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4222.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4224.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
就是說他的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4224.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4226.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
歸納完再追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4226.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4228.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
當然還有一些你是委託像 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4228.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4230.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
MIC或是其他公研院 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4230.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
等等的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4232.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4234.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
我就覺得現在要了解問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4234.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4236.45 |
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那你的對策才有辦法下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4236.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4238.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
好 那就是沿著到下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4238.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4240.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
因為當你把問題了解清楚之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4240.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
你才有辦法開藥方 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
那開藥方 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
我現在的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
為什麼禮拜一辦公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
就是說我們現在有不同的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
就像你們講的 微型企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
小型 中型 新創 |
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4254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
口號都喊得很好 要健身 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
要壯大 要升級 要拔肩 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
這都是形容詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
然後你剛剛又有這幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
所以到底你這個藥方 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4266.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
會怎麼開 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4266.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4268.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
然後你的這個KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4268.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
這些到底會怎麼設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4272.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
這個這個不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4272.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
市長 你們現在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4276.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
做到什麼地步 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4276.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
其實我們在這個114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4282.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們就推出中小圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4282.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4284.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
企業多元振興方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4284.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4286.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
那數位轉型 淨零轉型或通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4286.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4288.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
部件 其實這是整個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4288.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
的一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
那這一次總統提出來的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
其實跟委員看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
也是很類似就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
是不是要加大 而且要加深 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
這樣的一個輔導的一個內涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
所以我們把群聚共榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
包括商圈 市場 夜市 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
也都把它放進來 還有最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4308.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
就是新創拔肩 因為這個新創 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4308.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
就是改變未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
我們台灣經濟很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
我希望你交一個這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
報告 也可以找中氣署 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
或是你們各個有一起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
就是說你針對這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
假設我們把它稱之為舉證圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4324.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
那每一個東西配合你前面調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4324.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
它最主要的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
你想要解決 因為我們不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4330.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
每一個問題都去解決嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4330.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4332.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
最重要的問題 你開了這個對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4332.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4334.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
那你做下去會是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4334.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
那這一個整個政策的施政的藍圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
才會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
但我們現在都看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
這也是我們為什麼一直在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
到底 我現在看到都是一個一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
見樹不見林 然後做下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4348.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
我也不曉得那個成果會是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4348.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
這個老問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
十幾二十年來都是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
所以我是希望你們有一種比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4356.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
創新的一個格局的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4356.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
再來就是數字的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4360.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
你們常常數字都多不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4361.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4363.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
114年計畫啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4363.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4365.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
行政院的新聞公告就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4365.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4367.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
114年度投入116億 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4367.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4369.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
卓院長今年又公開說 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4369.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4371.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
114年投入103億 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4371.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4373.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
這中間就差13億 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4373.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4375.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
然後115年又說 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4375.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4377.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
投入109億 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
然後116年你們送進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4383.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
運輸院正式報告告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4383.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4385.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
每年是250億的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4385.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4387.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
那行政院又說為您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4388.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4390.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
八年 未來八年要加碼投入1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4391.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4393.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
所以114年到底你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4393.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4395.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
投入116還是113億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4398.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4398.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4400.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
我們是從現有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4400.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
比方說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
我們各部會投入中小企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
預算 其實每年大概都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4408.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
有100多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4408.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
這不是你經濟部的還是整個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4412.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
其實應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4412.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
大部分都是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
但是我們也有把各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4418.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
用在中小企業身上的這些經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4418.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
我們也把它統計進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4422.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
那之所以116年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4422.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
開始我們會說250億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
是因為總統又加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
八年這個1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4430.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
所以我們就是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4430.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
八年250億是2000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
所以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
現有100多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4438.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
再加上總統未來給的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4438.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
每年大概100多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
這樣加起來的話大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
每年從116年開始大概有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
250億左右的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4448.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
所以你這個是加碼1000億是新增 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4448.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
所以你既有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4452.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
假設我們抓103億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4452.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4454.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
然後再加上一年大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4454.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
是差不多125 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4458.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4458.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4460.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
所以加起來是200多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4460.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4462.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
250億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4462.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
250億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4466.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
所以把這個東西的預算金額寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4466.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
那這250億是包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4470.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
哪些部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4470.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4472.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
然後你的公務預算 基金支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4472.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4474.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
租稅優惠 信保 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4474.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4476.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
國發金投資都算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4476.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
還是這250億純粹就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
產業補助跟推動的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
是全部都會有 到時候我們會有一個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4484.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
到時候我們再提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4484.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4486.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
所以它是把基金支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4486.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
國發 基金的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
信保這就放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
所以真正你產業補助根本不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
一年250億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4494.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
應該都是在整個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
就是說250億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
那你要給我細項的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
每一個都要拆解出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4504.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
因為我們業界聽到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4504.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
250億是用在產業的補助 研發跟創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4506.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
跟我的淨零轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
不包含這些國發基金投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4510.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
銀行融資 這個你很難算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
我們到時候再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4514.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
提供一些資料給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
我希望你們是250億的新增 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4518.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
產業補助跟研發這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4522.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4524.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
我們現在把這個籠統全部都加進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
我們中小企業想像的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
250億 結果再加上50億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
雖然兩百億都是國發基金投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
信保融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4535.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
然後財政部的公股這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4535.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
融資這不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4539.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
好 再來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4539.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4541.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
你們的跡象也是很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4542.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
再讓我花一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4544.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
因為我覺得這個你們的這個牽扯到你們116的預算的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4546.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4550.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
你現在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4550.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
我看你們報告的話送進來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4554.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
預計輔導20萬3千5百家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4554.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4556.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
創造產值689億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4557.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4559.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
行政院114年公佈結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4559.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4561.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
同樣加速沒變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4561.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4563.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
20萬3千5百家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4563.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4565.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4565.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4567.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
從689億變成是91億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4569.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4571.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
WOW |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4571.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
是前面物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4575.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
根本報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4575.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
其實我們都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4579.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
不斷的在這個做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4579.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
就是說這個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4583.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
會隨著這個調查時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4583.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4585.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
不是你碰風碰想著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4585.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
你本來預估是689億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4589.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
那你的目標怎麼會修整成91億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4594.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4596.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
資料可能我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4596.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
我們再檢視一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4598.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4600.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4600.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4602.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
我都幫你們看數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4602.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4604.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
因為你們這個東西要檢視一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4604.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4606.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
然後你再把正確的報告給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4606.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4608.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
因為不然這樣子我們都覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4608.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4610.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
689億變91億的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4610.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4612.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
這是什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4612.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
然後第二個我想次長這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
很清楚產值跟商機不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4618.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
商機都是碰風的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4618.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4620.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
產值比較是知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4620.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4622.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
所以你那個東西要去把它分清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4622.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4624.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
不要把你的商機當成是KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4624.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4626.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
這個要分清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4626.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4628.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
然後你們的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4628.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4630.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
我認為還是看得不是很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4630.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4632.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
因為你們的成果大概都還是數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4632.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4634.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4634.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4636.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
我再找你們研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4636.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4638.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
就是常常我們在講要求OKR |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4638.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4640.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
我要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4640.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4642.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
不是output |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4642.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4644.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
輔導多少家怎麼樣拿到多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4644.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
那個對我都不重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
重要的是他的outcome跟impact |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4648.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4650.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
我到底是幫助他解決的是什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4650.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4652.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
要回到你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4652.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4654.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
最前面調查的那個他的一個缺口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4654.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
那真正才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4656.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4658.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
感覺感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4658.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4660.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
然後最後這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4662.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4664.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4663.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
昨天禮拜一的公廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
或者是人家在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
我記得國科會也有給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
訴發部前還是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
去幫你們經濟部做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
整個中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4677.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
或者是整個經濟部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4677.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4679.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
我們企業申請資源的一戰士 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4680.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4682.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
我們才講資訊入口而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4682.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4684.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
這個進度是做到哪裡去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4685.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
這個可能要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4689.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
我們再跟訴發部來了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4689.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
因為知道為什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
因為是本來經濟部中心署要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
中心署不想做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
是因為主改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
主改成立了訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
所以我們就把業務移撥的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
就把這項業務就移撥到訴發部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4705.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
所以我們再跟訴發部再了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4705.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4707.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我覺得這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4707.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4709.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
真的不好如果可以就拿回來自己做也行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4709.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4711.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
就是說因為這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4711.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4713.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
申請你們的這個輔助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4713.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
完全已經過去兩年多三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4717.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
然後還沒有看到成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4718.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4720.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
這個大家都在罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4720.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4722.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
我昨天去廠商那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4722.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4724.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
也是啊 我不知道在哪裡賺錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4724.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4726.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
然後到底我是不是用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4726.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4728.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
有沒有超過期限啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4728.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4730.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我可以申請多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4730.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4732.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
我要找誰啊 完全不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4732.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
跟委員報告我們在上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
成立一個Line At的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4738.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
我不要Line At喔 因為你們的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4738.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4740.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
合期多啊 然後資訊一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4740.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4742.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
跟委員報告這個Line At一個好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4742.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4744.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
就是我們有新的政策我們就會推播出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4744.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4746.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
而且目前Line At這個網站上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4746.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4748.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
我們已經有把經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4748.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4750.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
還有各部的提供給中央行業資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4750.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4752.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
都已經整理在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4752.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4754.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
那個不夠智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4754.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4756.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
現在都AI的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4756.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4758.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
在跟當初國科會給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4758.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4760.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
給速發報告去幫你們經濟部做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4760.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4762.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
那完全不符合國科會的要求啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4763.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4765.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
那個還是一般的Portal而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4765.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4768.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
這個在定期請中氣署再去檢討一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4768.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4770.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
就看一下這個速發部的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4770.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4772.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
最後只在耽誤30秒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4772.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4774.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
部長可以下台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4774.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4776.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
我們請這個國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4777.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
30秒就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4779.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4783.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4785.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
我看完你的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4785.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4787.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
只有30秒給你建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4787.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4789.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
國科會跟國發會一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4789.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4791.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
國發會也是有一個地方創生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4791.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
或者是這些新創的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
很多都是跟經濟部我覺得是重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
這我在國發會已經唸過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
國科會這邊也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
你的報告裡頭有加速器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4803.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
又有新創培育又有人才訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4803.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
到底你們跟這些經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4807.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
有什麼差別啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4807.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4809.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
這資源都是重複浪費理當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4811.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4813.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
我想跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4813.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4818.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
在國發會有一個三個部會的聯合系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4818.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4822.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
基本上我們國科會的定位是在比較early stage |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4822.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4825.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
本來創業的路程就是比較長遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4825.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4828.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
中小企業沒有early stage的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4830.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
國發會新創不是early stage |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4834.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
我們的angel放的不是early stage |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4838.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4842.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
我覺得你們兩個會去好好做一下sync |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4842.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4845.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
我很討厭看到這種資源重複的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4845.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4847.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
審計部也唸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4847.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4849.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
預算中心也唸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4849.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4851.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
然後我們今天是中小園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4851.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4852.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
你們那個產學合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4852.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4854.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
科學園區的產學合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4854.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4856.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
裡面根本不是中小園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4856.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
所以我覺得你這個東西不太對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
我只是說你回去再把你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
這個施政的策略在這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4864.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
如果沒有你就說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
如果你真的有中小園的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4869.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
那個才是你們國科會看看有什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4869.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4872.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
在這個產學合作是中小園可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4872.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4875.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
這個是我給你們的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4875.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4876.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
我看完你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4876.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4877.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4879.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4881.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
謝謝副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4882.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4883.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4885.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4886.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4888.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4892.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4894.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
好 接下來我們請中嘉賓委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4907.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4909.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
主席在黨委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4909.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4912.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
列席的政務商商官員會場公主辦媒體機構的先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4912.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4914.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
我們有請經濟部和次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4914.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4916.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
請經濟部和次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4921.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
中委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
次長因為本週一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4925.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
早已排了一個同樣的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4925.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
我的題目也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
所以應該您對這個題目跟本席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
要詢問的部分應該有所準備了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
我們要強調的就是政府的科專 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
要兼顧區域跟產業的均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
尤其是研發成果要能創造 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
我們傳產未來的市場升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4943.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
傳產要升級市場就要先升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4943.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4944.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
我們現在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4944.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4945.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
來 請問次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4945.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4946.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
那麼今天的題目說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4946.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4949.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
對於現在中小園企業的發展困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4949.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4951.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
目前政府有什麼樣的作為因應呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4952.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4954.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
其實我們在融資貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4954.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4959.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
我們在技術升級還有市場唾銷等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4959.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
我們都有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4962.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
就是我上面寫的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4962.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
普惠貸款 租稅優惠 保證融資額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
度級乘數 數位轉型 淨零轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
還有發展國內外的通路 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4970.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4970.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
所以你們正在研究一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
中小園企業多元振興發展計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4974.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
要法制化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4974.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
要推動一個升級發展條例 是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
我們會把它定位在中小園企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
有沒有制定一個發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
所以這個是就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
現有執行的中小園企業多元振興發展計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4993.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
我們要推動這個條例的立法 是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4993.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4994.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4994.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
好 那目前你們在這發展計畫當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
在今年度變了109億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
看起來不少嘛 但是我們往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5001.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
其實根據審計部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5001.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
他說這個產業發展政策攸關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
結構轉型國家競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5011.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
但是目前我們未能均衡引導或妥當的配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5011.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5015.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
他說政府的科技創新資源持續擴張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5015.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5017.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
但是集中在半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5017.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
中小園的多元振興發展方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5021.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
就剛剛你講的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5021.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
反而是114年的116億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5028.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
到今年反而是減少了7億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5033.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
是啦 不對啦 你們剛剛說不是要解決嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5033.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
所以還變了109億嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5035.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
但你看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5035.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5037.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
我們的科技發展計畫預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5037.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
去年是1396億 將近1400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
今年成長到1665億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5045.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
成長了快270億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5045.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5047.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
但是我們中小園的 你說要重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5047.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5048.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
要解決要困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5048.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5051.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
結果今年不增反減 怎麼回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5052.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5052.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
因為這個會牽涉到各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
因為我們這個統計是各部會的相關計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
所以是其他部會的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
不是我經濟部的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我們可能我們再了解一下到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我就說嘛 我星期就提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
充足的時間準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5068.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
來 我們繼續往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5068.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5070.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
為什麼會這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5070.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5072.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
這到底是不是經濟部還是整個政府部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5072.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
還是整個台灣發展的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5074.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5074.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5076.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
我們資訊電子產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5076.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
包括電子產品光學製品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
那麼加上電子零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5084.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
先看我們這個電腦電子部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5084.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5088.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
14年去年的上市櫃的營業利益是3705億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5088.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5092.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
如果加上電子零組件是2兆1713億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5092.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
如果我們放到資訊電子產業的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5096.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
大概它的配比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5096.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
台灣的產業的一個產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
大概是2兆5000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5104.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
對上非資訊電子產業的7000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5104.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5105.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
有沒有看到很懸殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5106.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
這是台灣的發展情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5109.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
你要說這是行政院的問題還是經濟部的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5109.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5113.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
這就是目前半導體跟AIDA爆發造成的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5113.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
那麼114年的上市櫃的營業利益率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5117.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5119.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
電子零組件高達三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5120.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5122.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
製造業的總體製造業大概一成二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5122.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5124.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
非製造業只剩一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5125.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
這就是目前我們的現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5128.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
也是今天我們講的困境往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5128.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5130.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
那我們來看看從業人口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5130.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
資訊電子產業占全體創業人口的7% |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5136.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
寫13.5%你可能算不出來7% |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5136.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
我們的工業人口有400萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
其中的製造業將近300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
而在這個制裁當中電子零組件60萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5145.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
電腦電子跟光學製品剛進25萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5152.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
合計兩者的資訊電子產業85萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5152.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5156.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
但是這85萬以外的非資訊電子產業的製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5156.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5158.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
是超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5158.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5160.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
非製造業工業有超過100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5160.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5163.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
我們的服務業高達709萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5164.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
加上農業部門我們整個非資訊電子產業的人口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5169.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
是1077萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5169.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5171.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
對上資訊電子產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5174.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
市長有沒有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5174.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5178.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
我們全國的從業人員有高達1162億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
資訊電子產業它只占7% |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5181.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5182.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5182.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5184.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
但是你看看這些高科技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5184.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5187.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
它的營業利益是其他部門的三倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5188.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5190.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
利益率是人家的3.5倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5191.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
賺的多很會賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5195.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
它的從業人員只有7% |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5196.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
而且我們回到我們政府資源配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5200.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
更誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5200.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5202.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
差距高達16倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5203.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5203.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
就是從你115年的科技發展計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5207.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
是1665億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5207.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5211.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
對上我們鍾小維的109億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5211.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5213.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
市長有沒有發現問題在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5214.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5215.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5215.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5220.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
這個就是過去我們在高科技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5220.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5224.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
因為整個全球AI的崛起的一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5224.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5227.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
所以為什麼總統這一次特別要加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5227.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
對鍾小維企業的轉型升級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5234.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
所以今年對鍾小維企業的資源投入不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5234.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
是最後一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5236.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
明年開始我們會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5236.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5238.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
對我們會增加這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5238.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5240.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
那我告訴你增加要注意哪些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5240.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
我們就單單看這115年的1665億好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
就算是在電子產業高科技部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
政府資源集中在高科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
而且集中在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
集中在七都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
你們回去把經濟部的對鍾小維的這些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
你去把我們的產業技術師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
他們所提供的那些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
你把你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
去年度跟今年度的執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5264.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
希望盤點一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5264.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5266.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
都在北部都在六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5267.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5268.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
我屏東呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5268.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我翻了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
在某個項目下我只找一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5273.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
好再往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5273.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5275.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
所以我們認為政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5275.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
為了要讓我們的傳產能夠升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5281.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
現有的我們以技術師的科技專案來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5281.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5282.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
科專計畫來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5282.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5285.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
有學界科專法人科專企業科專 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5285.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5288.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
那一天我才知道原來法人科專是七大七小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5288.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5290.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
那麼學界跟法人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5290.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5292.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
學界是要從0到1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5292.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5293.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
從無到有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5293.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5296.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
法人科專是要它應用到業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5296.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5297.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
而業界的科專呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5297.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5298.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
它要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5298.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5299.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
要市場化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5299.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5300.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5300.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5302.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
那這集的產發組的角色是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5303.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
就是要協助相關的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
商品化要能夠落地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5309.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
我們怎麼合量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5309.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5310.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
他有沒有做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5311.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5315.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
我們當然就是要看他未來產值的增加有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5315.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
我那天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5317.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5320.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
就在我們的李署長那天的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5320.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5321.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
我就提出來他有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5321.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5322.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
我說目前啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5322.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5324.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
以我們的法人科專來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5324.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5326.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
我們編的預算100元投入啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5326.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5328.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
他說會有30元當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5328.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5331.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
分別是15元的計轉的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5332.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5334.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
15元是輔導的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5334.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
那我就問一個問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5337.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
那其他70元呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5338.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5340.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
其他之間你怎麼去衡量他的績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5340.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5342.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
到目前為止我們看到經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5342.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5344.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
從技術師提供的資料來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
我們的法人科專每投入100元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
他說會創造30元的回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
很清楚的可以看到15元是計轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5354.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
15元是服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5355.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5357.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
那70元怎麼衡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5358.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5360.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
有沒有辦法去衡量他的績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5360.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5361.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
我相信應該是有績效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5361.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5363.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
怎麼衡量我建議他一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5363.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5365.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
把這些法人科專企業科專 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5365.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5368.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
投入的資源對應這些企業成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5368.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5369.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
後來的營業額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5369.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5371.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
他的資本額的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5371.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5373.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
至少再對一個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5373.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5375.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
我們的戶稅署署長在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5375.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5376.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
去查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5376.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5379.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
這些接受我們法人科專企業科專 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5379.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5381.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
他的成果有沒有創造稅收啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5381.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5383.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
這回會估計得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5384.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5387.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
不是按照他們自己寫的報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5387.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5388.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
我輔導了幾家他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5388.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5389.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
興興向榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5389.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
成長很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5393.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
你看看他的繳的稅有沒有更加嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5393.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5394.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
如果繳的稅有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5394.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
我就相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5397.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
當然不是馬上增加啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5397.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5398.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
可能要看個5年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5398.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5399.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
看個5年的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5399.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
所以是不是可以就這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
未來在就我們的績效恆恆的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
可以勾連到我們財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5408.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
勾連到我們金管行內的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5408.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5409.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5409.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5411.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
合苗一個公司的成長是可以從這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5411.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
繳的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5413.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
他的營業規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5413.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5416.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
是不是還有他股票的市值的成長嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5416.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5417.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5417.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5418.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5418.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5419.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
我很快就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5419.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5420.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
再跟主席要求一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5420.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5421.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
其實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5421.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5423.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
傳產不是那麼的不堪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5424.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
我們目前談模具衝壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5427.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5427.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5428.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我們舉例啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5428.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5429.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
台灣呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5429.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5430.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
我們我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5430.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5431.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
我們台灣的傳產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5431.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5433.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
有幾個很厲害的隱形冠軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5433.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5434.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
有模具衝壓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5434.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
有金屬加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5437.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
有小型隱形的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5437.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5439.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
那你來看看現在最紅的川湖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5440.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5441.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
他在20年也不是傳產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
他在2000年之前就是傳產啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5445.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
他做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5445.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
做家具啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
做滑軌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5448.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
現在呢他做到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5448.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5449.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
AI伺服器的精密搗軌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5450.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5452.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
他一年可以投入在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5453.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
他的專利的保護可以將近1億台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5456.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5457.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
我們講義美好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5457.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5458.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
義美是做什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5460.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5461.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
做食品的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5461.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5463.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
你還能想到現在做機器狗嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5464.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5465.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
他是傳產啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5465.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5467.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
那我說雷虎刻意的也是做玩具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5468.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5469.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
他現在是做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5469.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5470.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
做無人機啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
所以我是覺得經濟部要對傳產的思維跟想像往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5475.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
就是今天呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5476.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
在你們星期一的報告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5478.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
你們的所謂的中小微企業轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5483.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
升級與產業創新條例的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5483.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5485.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
你們當中呢特別講到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5485.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5488.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
你們會把金融科技發展與創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5488.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
你們會把資源循環推動法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
你會把人工智慧機構放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5493.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5493.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5494.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
你知道我的一個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5496.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5499.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
你知道有沒有聽過無人載具科技創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5500.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5501.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
市長有沒有聽過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5501.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5502.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5502.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5503.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
你知道這個主管機關是誰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5503.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5504.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
是我們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5504.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5506.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
對什麼設立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5506.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
2018年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5508.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
為了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5510.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5513.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
但是我看了他的法架構往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5513.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
他其實呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5515.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
很完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5515.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5516.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
陸海空都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5516.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5517.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5517.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5518.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
他在很多的調適上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5518.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5519.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5519.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
針對我們未來所謂的富國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5521.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5522.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我們的無人載具的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5522.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5524.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
他已經有大概的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5524.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
那個輪廓都規劃下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5525.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5527.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
我昨天的記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5527.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5529.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
我就就這幾個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5529.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5531.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
我就盤點了這個實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5531.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
他跟目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5534.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
所謂的無人機專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5534.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
有民眾黨團版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
有國民黨團版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5538.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
有賴斯堡委員個人版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5538.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
我把它盤點一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
跟現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
大概有四個優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
第一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5544.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
我們這個實驗條例呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5544.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
他的定義檢要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
涵蓋完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
那麼至於現況跟藍白板呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5548.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
功能混雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5548.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
掛一漏萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
那對於這個無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5552.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
所需要的申請的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5552.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
核備程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5554.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
我們這個實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5554.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
是單一窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5556.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
聯席審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5556.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
目前的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5558.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
跟藍白板呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5558.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
也要自行跑鑒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5560.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
主管審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5560.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5562.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
至於我們需要的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5562.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
我們目前實驗條例是一次申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
目前實驗條例是一次申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5567.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
經常使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
但是呢現況是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
是逐次申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
現實使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
最重要是法令的進合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
我們對無人載具有相關的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5577.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
有傳播法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5577.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5578.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
有民用航空法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5578.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5579.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
有道交條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5579.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5580.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
有傳言法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5580.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5583.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
還有我們很多很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5583.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5585.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
關於無線電磁波的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5585.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5587.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
頻譜的管制等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5587.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5589.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
這些在我們的實驗條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5589.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5591.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
排除限制一致到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5591.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5592.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
可是相對的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5592.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5594.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
目前在說的無人機狀法當中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5594.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
他們縱使有討論到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5598.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
他對於管制的法令很多啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5598.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5600.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
他的條文不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5601.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
我們的實驗條例啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5604.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
他把所有的條詞都列出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5606.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5607.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5607.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5609.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
你們回去要不要再看一下這個實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5609.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5611.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
目前這個實驗條例在我們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5611.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5612.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
是誰在輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5612.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
是我們產業技術師這邊在註冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5618.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
產業技術師他今天不在嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5618.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5620.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
回去可不可以請你們再盤點一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5620.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5624.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
針對目前你們所要協助的中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5624.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5626.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
要協助產轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5626.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5627.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
要求他升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5627.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
那麼無人載具是一個大好機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5630.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
我再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5630.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5631.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
模具充壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5631.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5632.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
金屬加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5632.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5633.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
小型引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5634.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5636.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
從川湖到義美到雷虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5636.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5637.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我們都看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5637.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5640.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
傳產轉型為未來的富國神山是有機會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5640.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5641.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
但是需要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5642.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5643.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
需要法令的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5643.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5645.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
那你們這個實驗條例可不可以協助我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5645.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5647.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
傳產轉型為無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5648.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
是也可以可以可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5652.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
那所以呢請經濟部研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5652.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5654.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
針對科專專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5654.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5657.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
科技專案補助的產業跟區域均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5657.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5660.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
要怎麼樣建立你們資源的總帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5660.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5661.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
怎麼去勾稽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5661.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5663.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
可不可以提出一個報告給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5663.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5664.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5664.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5667.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
那也請你們將創新實證機制納入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5667.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5671.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
我們的無人載具科技創新實驗條例的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5671.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5672.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5672.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5674.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
這個部分我想我們可以來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5674.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
你們可以研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5677.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
這個法令是在2018年製作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5677.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5679.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
現在已經過了8年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5679.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5681.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
可能就補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5681.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
補充後就可以來適用給我們的無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5684.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5685.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5685.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5688.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
那可不可以一個月也給本席知道一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5688.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5689.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
你們這個實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5689.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5691.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
你們打算補充哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5691.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5692.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
修改哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5692.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5693.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5693.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
好可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5695.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5696.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5698.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
好謝謝宗教兵委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5698.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5703.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
接下來的話我們請這個楊瓊英委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5714.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5716.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
謝謝主席楊瓊發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5716.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5717.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
我們邀請經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5718.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5720.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
我們請經濟部核次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5724.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5725.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
楊委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5725.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5726.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5726.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5729.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
總統在520的時候提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5729.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5733.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
一千億的加速振興中小企業計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5735.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5737.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
中小微企業計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5737.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5740.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
宣示將現在我們中小企業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5740.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5745.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
升級為中小微企業升級轉型發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5745.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5748.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
它的內容大概是擴大這個研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5748.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5749.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
轉型設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5749.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5754.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
雇傭以及增聘這個增雇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5754.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5757.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
以及加薪等租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5757.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5759.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
並且在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5759.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5761.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
要增加什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5761.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5762.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5762.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5763.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5764.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5766.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
以及信保保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5766.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5769.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
跟國發基金的金融投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5769.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5770.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
跟融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5770.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5773.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
那這個目的就是要建立起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5773.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5776.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
中小微企業完整的一個支持體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5776.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5780.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
那我也看到你們在24號的這個書面報告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5780.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5781.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
你特別提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5781.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5785.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
目前相關的地方特色產業輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5785.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5788.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
你們有接觸到大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5788.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5790.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
一萬一千五百六十六家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5790.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5794.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
諮詢診斷的大概是兩千兩百三十七家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5794.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5797.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
深度輔導的是八百七十三家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5797.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5800.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
國發基金在加強投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5800.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5802.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
中小企業的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5802.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5803.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
支持方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5803.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5807.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
你們到今年一百一十五年六月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5807.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5809.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
你也可以說是累計投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5809.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5812.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
一百一十四點八四億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5812.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5814.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
帶動民間的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5814.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5817.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
這個金額大概是一百一十一點七三億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5817.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5819.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
那你共投資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5819.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5823.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
在你的數字上面是339家的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5823.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5825.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
但是我們發覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5825.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5828.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
政府投資的工具越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5828.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5830.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
但是你真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5831.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5835.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
衡量企業的應該是轉型成功的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5835.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5837.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
我們並不明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5837.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
我們看到加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5838.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5839.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5840.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5842.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
企業導入的AI生產力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5842.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5844.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
到底提升了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5844.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5846.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
建靈攤牌加入的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5846.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5849.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
它的成本降低了又有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5849.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5852.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
那你取得了補助跟投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5852.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5854.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
這個營收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5856.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5858.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
營收跟它的出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5858.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5859.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
它的量體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5859.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5861.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
到底是不是有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5861.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5864.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
所以在每一次的報告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5864.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5865.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
本席詳細的看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5865.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5866.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
都是觸及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5866.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5869.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
我到底touch到多少加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5869.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
我辦了多少場次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5871.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
大概都是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5873.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5874.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
所以本席要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5874.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5876.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
也就是你經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5876.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5877.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
是不是會設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5877.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5881.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
一套具體的轉型成效追蹤機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5881.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5883.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
你明確的去掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5883.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
企業呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5887.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
接受了政策的一個資源之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5887.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
它在營收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5889.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
在整個生產力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5889.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5891.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
以及出口呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5891.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5892.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
跟就業的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5892.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5894.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
它到底提升了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5894.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5895.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5895.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5896.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5896.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5899.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
委員的問題非常的具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5899.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5901.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
而且也是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5901.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5903.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
一直在要求我們的輔導團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5903.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5905.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
這個不要只看output |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5905.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5907.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
我們一定要看outcome |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5907.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5909.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
那你既然只是不要output |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5909.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5910.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
只要outcome |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5910.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5912.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
那你更應該要明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5912.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5913.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
那你8月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5913.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5914.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
你的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5914.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5916.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
就不是只有touch加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5916.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5918.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
怎麼都不聽你的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5918.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5919.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
所以跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5919.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5920.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
我們這個out |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5920.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5922.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
因為outcome的這個追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5922.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5923.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
它可能必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5923.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5925.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
比較剛宏偉在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5925.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5926.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
也提到同樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5926.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5928.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
我們可能是要比較長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5928.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5930.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
請問你們有沒有機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5930.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5931.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
這個最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5931.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
我們會有追蹤的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5934.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
有沒有機制請告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5934.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5935.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
現在有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5935.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5937.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
那有的已經質詢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5937.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5938.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
為什麼不把成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5938.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5940.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
拿出來給我們看呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5940.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
未來我們也會把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
各部會他們所投入的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5946.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
這部分我們會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5946.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5948.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
大家就把outcome都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5948.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
做一個整合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5951.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
然後你可以將你追蹤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5951.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
一個成效告訴社會大眾嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
是不是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
會不會這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
會這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5960.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
那接下來本席要來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5960.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
因為我們不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5962.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
每一次看到的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5962.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
就只有補助了多少家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
這不是我們要看的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
因為投資的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
我們就是要有成效嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
確實如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
要真正幫助到我們的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
甚至我們現在提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
晉升為中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
這也是本席一直一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
在我們經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
在任何場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5979.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
台灣今天之所以能夠如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5983.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
就是我們的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5983.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
打下了根基嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
80%的就業率都在這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
我們要謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
所有的中小企業的老闆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
他能夠這麼樣的堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5996.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
但是現在政府必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5996.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
做他的靠山嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
那接下來本席要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
因為您這個有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
中小微的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6005.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
那你預計要在什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我現在看到是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
9月底要提出完整的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
你預計在什麼時候提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
大家非常的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
什麼時候會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
就是立法院開議的這個期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
這下位期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
我們一定會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
因為這個中間會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6027.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
經過預告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6027.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
然後當然委員也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
我們能夠辦多場次的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6031.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
能夠收集大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6033.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
我們再把這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
所以速度要加快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
因為總統5月公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
5月宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
那我們到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
您說9月份要提出完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6043.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6043.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6045.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
我們希望不能再慢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6045.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6048.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
甚至你趕快加緊腳步研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6048.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6050.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
好接下來我要請國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6054.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
部長你也一併站一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6054.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6055.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6055.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6056.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
來國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6058.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6060.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
因為國科會在113年推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6060.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6063.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
無人機關鍵的技術前瞻研發計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6063.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6066.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
那投資了將近3.7億的這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6066.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6069.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
那你整合了清大台大城大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6069.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6070.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
以及輔偉科大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6070.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6072.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
以及我們的國營院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6072.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6074.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
這些的研究機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6074.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
那從飛控通訊AI感知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
群飛3D的建圖到反制技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
它都進行到這個科學研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
那你也設定了具體的量化指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
這個非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6090.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
一定要有量化指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6090.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6092.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
那你預計要在明年116年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6092.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6094.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
完成驗收是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6098.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6101.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
因為這個題目不是我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6101.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6104.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
我沒有負責這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6104.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
你是代表國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6108.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
沒關係你不清楚我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6108.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
就是114年要完成驗收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6114.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
那重點在於國家投入了這一些的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6114.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6117.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
我們也做了關鍵的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6117.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6118.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
那不能讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6119.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6121.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
驗收完成任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6121.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
經濟部站在旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6123.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
所以經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6124.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
我個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6127.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
國家是一個合作的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6127.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6130.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
稅金都是人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6130.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6133.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
所以你真正的政策成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6133.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6134.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
才是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6134.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
也就是說你最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6140.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
是不是能夠被國內的企業來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6140.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6142.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
最後形成產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6142.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6143.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
跟有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6145.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
這個有能力的一個量產出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
這是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
所以我要請教經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
我們台中已經有航太精密機械 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
跟無人機產業的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
台中非常的堅固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
中部地區非常的堅固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
那你如果國科會他負責研發出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6165.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
那經濟部你有沒有前瞻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6165.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6166.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
去布局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6166.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6169.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
到底國科會研發出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6170.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
花了3.6億多將近3.7億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6174.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
他研發出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6174.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6176.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
你準備要怎麼去承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6176.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6178.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
有哪些的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6178.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6179.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
他可以來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6179.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6180.95 |
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可以來量產 |
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6180.95 |
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6183.95 |
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這才是我們花人民納稅錢 |
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6183.95 |
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6188.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
最重要的從研發到產品的一個產出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6188.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6191.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
也幫助我們所有的企業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6191.95 |
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6193.95 |
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那你憑你的點頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6193.95 |
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6194.95 |
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我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6194.95 |
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6196.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
因為國家花錢做研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6196.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6198.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
那不能只有讓我們的企業 |
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6198.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6200.95 |
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還是自己去摸索 |
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6200.95 |
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6202.95 |
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所以你本身要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6202.95 |
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6203.95 |
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國科會這樣的計畫照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6203.95 |
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6206.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
明年116年他要完成驗收 |
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6206.95 |
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6209.95 |
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那經濟部現在是115年8月底了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6209.95 |
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6211.95 |
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你經濟部是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6211.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6214.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
開始盤點相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6214.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6216.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
可以交給哪一些企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6216.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6217.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
在哪一些場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6217.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6219.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
他可以去驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6219.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6221.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
那所以我特別要說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6221.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6224.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
你必須要設定成果的移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6224.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6227.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
跟量產的具體時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6228.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6230.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
尤其是我們台中的產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6230.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6231.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
請教普長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6231.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6234.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
台中的產業鏈在這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6234.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6237.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
我們到底要扮演什麼樣的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6237.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6238.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
因為我不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6238.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6241.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
在任何的會議裡頭也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6241.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6242.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6242.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6245.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
政府必須做企業的一個靠山 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6246.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6248.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
由政府的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6248.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
比如說國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6252.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
他現在116年要提出了這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6252.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
這個研發成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
那我們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6255.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
台中的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
他扮演什麼樣的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6259.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
好 跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6259.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6261.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
國科會其實他的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6261.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6263.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
當然就是研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6263.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
那研發成果要做計轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6267.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
這個計轉的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6267.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
我想就是經濟部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6271.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
要有企業要能夠來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6271.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6272.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6272.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6273.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
所以我們經濟部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6273.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6275.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
其實我們的責任就是要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6276.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6277.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
開始盤點了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6277.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6278.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
開始盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6278.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6279.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
已經盤點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6279.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6280.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
我們無人家不問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6280.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6281.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
其實我們已經盤點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6281.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6282.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6282.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6283.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
有盤點了請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6283.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6286.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
台中的產業鏈扮演什麼角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6286.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6288.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
其實台中產業鏈非常完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6288.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6292.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
從整機模組到系統到零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6292.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6293.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
都一應俱全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6293.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6295.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
所以這也是我們台中的特色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6295.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6299.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
所以承接上絕對這些技術的研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6299.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
台中的廠商絕對有能力來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6304.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
尤其我們盤點出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6304.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6306.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
三晶二卵的缺口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6306.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6307.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
技術缺口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6307.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6308.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
也是我們跟國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6308.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
一起在合作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6311.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
透過學校的研發能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6311.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6313.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
能夠把這些技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6313.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6316.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
能夠把它轉到產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6316.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6318.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
我想可以讓我們國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6318.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6321.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
無人機產業生態性能夠更加壯大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6321.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6322.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
謝謝市長你的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6322.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6324.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
也就是台中是要扮演 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6324.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6328.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
非常關鍵的產業鏈的一個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6328.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
所以我要告訴你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6332.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
我們台中在等你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6332.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6335.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
接下來我要請國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6335.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6336.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
跟經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6337.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6339.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
國發會我們在近期你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6339.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6342.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
付了日本交流地方創生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6342.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6344.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
你提出了以往的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6344.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6346.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
從2019年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6346.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6349.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
我們的政策是說要留住人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6349.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6352.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
到現在是轉向留下專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6352.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6355.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
本席認為你這個轉向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6355.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
我給你讚許 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6359.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
但也暴露出以往的方向是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6359.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6361.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
又精進的一個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6361.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
所以在這樣的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6366.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
你希望透過遠距協助人才媒合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6366.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6369.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
以及跨域的合作讓人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6369.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
即使他不移居地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
但是能夠參與地方的一個參與跟發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
這是從2019年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
我們的地方創生元年開始到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
你政府投入了54.61億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
但是你一直被人家質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
也就是說團隊高度的去依賴政府的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6391.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
補助一旦一停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6391.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6392.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
那他會活不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6392.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6393.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
在這樣的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6393.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6396.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
不是我們所樂意看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6396.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6400.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
所以我們現在覺得到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6400.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6403.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
你是不是都沒有建立起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6403.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6406.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
自主造學的一個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6406.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6407.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
在地方的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6407.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6410.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
所以我個人認為政府投下的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6410.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
那你現在又提出新的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6413.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6415.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
地方創生的一個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6415.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6416.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6418.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6422.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
只是不斷的更換你的政策名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6422.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6424.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
跟人才的一個論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6424.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6427.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
你應該要正面的去檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6427.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6430.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
過去你投入的這些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6430.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6432.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
究竟留下了什麼樣的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6433.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6437.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
我們不希望是淪為補助不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6437.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6440.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
創生不成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6440.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6442.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
這是我們不願意樂見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6442.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
所以我要請教副主委您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6448.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
國防會你既然你改變了方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6448.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6451.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
你推動了新的地方創生模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6451.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6453.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
那你是不是應該要先交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6453.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6456.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
以往你所投入的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6456.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6457.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
你到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6457.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6460.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
能夠培養出多少脫離政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6460.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6463.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
然後持續自主經營的團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6466.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
的確我們協助地方創生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
希望他們能夠有自己的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
我想補助只是一剛開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
來協助他們建立這樣的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6477.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
那從過去我們推動的成效來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6479.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
其實在促進就業方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
還有創造產值方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
已經有相當的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
那當然我們希望有更精進的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6489.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
所以就如委員剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6489.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6491.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
我們是希望這些新創的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6491.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
彼此間能夠共創一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
共好的一個生態圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6498.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
好你一個回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6498.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
共好共創補助只是剛開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
所以第一個本席要求兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6507.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
第一個你把你所投入的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6507.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
那麼認為他可以自主的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6512.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
那你順便就要給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6512.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
第一個第二個我要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6517.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
團隊自主的一個營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6517.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6520.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
是不是列為未來地方創生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6520.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6523.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
KPI非常重要的一個具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6524.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6526.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
是我想這個方向我們一定都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6526.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6528.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
納入這個具體的KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6528.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6530.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6530.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6531.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6532.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6534.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
好謝謝楊丞琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6534.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6537.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
接下來的話我們請李玉琳委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6547.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6549.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
謝謝主席請何次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6549.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6551.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
請經濟部何次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6556.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6557.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6557.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
次長我們台灣的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
向來都是以高度的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
跟創新的能量來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
我國的經濟發展跟社會的安定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
所以雖然說他沒有大企業的光環 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
但他憑藉著他們今年累業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
這個專業技術可以引領著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
我們產業發展也是個很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6580.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
這個隱形冠軍對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6580.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
所以在我們根據2025年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6586.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
企業的白皮書裡面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6586.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
有說到2024年我們全台灣的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6594.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
已經有171.5萬家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6594.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6598.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
他的就業人口有919.4萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6598.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6600.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
占了我們全國就業人數的八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6600.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6602.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
都在中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6602.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6604.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
而且他的營業額31兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6604.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6608.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
他也占我們全國這個企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6608.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6609.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
營業收入的五成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6609.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6611.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
所以我們中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6611.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6613.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
他並不是我們台灣經濟的配角 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6613.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6615.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
他們也是最重要穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6615.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6618.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
我們就業市場的重要的基石對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6618.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6622.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
那所以說現在這個AI產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6622.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6624.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
跟我們的半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6624.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
大部分我們政府所制定的政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
都是偏向於比較亮眼的明星的企業產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
所以對於我們中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
比較沒有這方面的政策是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
應該跟委員這樣報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
就是說其實過去因為全球AI的整個浪潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6647.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
所以造就了台灣整個高科技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6647.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
在全球扮演很重要的一個地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
那相對的我們國內許多這些傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6660.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
跟中小微企業可能就受到高科技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6660.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
不管是在人才或是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
但是國家政策可以這樣子偏頗嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
是同樣都重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6669.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
對所以總統就看到了這樣的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6669.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6673.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
就提出來就是未來8年就是要提出1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6673.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
再投入1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
要投入這樣的預算資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6679.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
來協助傳產跟中小微企業的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6679.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6681.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
那當然也就是所謂就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6681.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6683.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
高科技產業發展的紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6683.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6686.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
要能夠外溢到這些傳產跟中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6686.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
所以我們希望能夠把這些傳產跟中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
只能協助到它能夠跨越到這個半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6696.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
半導體到我們的這些政府這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6696.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
市長在2024年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
我們就立法通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6703.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
中小企業的發展條例對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6703.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
裡面有特別講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
中小企業可以推動加薪減稅的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
那這加薪減稅的措施裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6714.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
我們看到都集合在這個六都裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6714.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6716.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
那為什麼就集合在六都裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6716.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
那其他的地方都沒有來申請嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6720.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
它就比較少 |
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這有事我們宣傳不列 |
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是說有什麼誘因不能引起他們來申請 |
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這有你們有沒有去分析這個原因在哪裡 |
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跟我們報告其實這個加薪減稅 |
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當然就是企業主他也要衡量他 |
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未來整個對員工的加薪之後 |
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他整個企業營運成本的一個增加的部分 |
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所以我想這個應該跟未來 |
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我們在訂定整個中小微 |
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企業轉型升級的這個條例裡面 |
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我們怎麼樣能夠把這個減稅的這個門檻 |
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能夠再把它放寬 |
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所以你們也繼續分析吧 |
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我們減稅的標準已經提高到100% |
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本來是135%的現在是175%了 |
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那個應該其實也很高了 |
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可以減輕他們的營利稅 |
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所以說在這方面的話 |
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你剛剛有提到了 |
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現在本來是中小企業的發展條例 |
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那現在未來會在這個中小微企業 |
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這個升級的發展條例裡面 |
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那你這兩個跟這中小企業的發展條例裡面 |
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有什麼不一樣 |
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有什麼差別呢 |
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跟我們報告就是說過去可能我們在這個條例裡面 |
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已經有的這些租稅優惠 |
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以及這些獎補助的項目 |
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我們會再把它擴大會把它放寬 |
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而且我們會把一些中小微企業 |
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特別是商圈市場 |
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業市這些小微企業的部分 |
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也把它納到這個 |
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小商家都把它列入 |
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不一定是公司嘛 |
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中小企業發展條例裡面是需要公司才可以 |
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現在微企業的話 |
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就可以把這些市場或者是小店家 |
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都把它納入裡面 |
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所以你會加強的部分是屬於金融還是租稅方面 |
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還是說設備的太舊關係 |
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所以跟這個中小企業發展沒有什麼差別 |
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就是過去可能門檻比較高一點 |
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就是說我們比方說租稅 |
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申請租稅優惠的話 |
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那他可能比方說要購買多少以上的設備才可以 |
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那我們現在就會把門檻降低 |
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那另外就是說這個僱用員工的話 |
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的年齡的部分我們也可以把它放寬 |
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那加薪的的抵減率也許我們也可以再把它做放寬 |
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所以跟現有的這個中小企業發展條例來講 |
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我們未來的那個轉型升級條例的部分 |
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我們會鬆綁非常多的這些這個租稅優惠的這些條件 |
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而且總統也承諾要加碼 |
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在研發補助在信用保證 |
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在這個市場唾銷這方面的這些經費 |
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尤其是在商圈、夜市還有這些市場 |
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這些這個輔導對象上面 |
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我們從硬體到軟體的部分 |
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我們都有整塊經費來編列 |
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所有的政策方面一定要調整 |
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我們是全面檢討 |
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那你說大概九月份會送出來是嗎 |
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對應該 |
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中進部就要做出來送到立法院了 |
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是我們送到立法院來 |
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九月份就要送出來 |
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好盡快送出來 |
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那至於剛剛特別有提到說AI產業跟這個半導體的問題 |
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那中小企業也需要您多多支持 |
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在中小企業方面的話 |
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我們看到我們政府的政策裡面都是著重在製造業 |
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你怎麼樣引領怎麼樣導入 |
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你們都有一套的公司跟辦法程序上可以教導他們 |
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但是服務業為什麼都沒有 |
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跟委員報告其實服務業我們也有AI的這個指引 |
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那過去因為服務業加速多 |
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加速多相較於製造業來講 |
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我們的輔導就是可能跟製造業的方法可能就要不一樣 |
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因為服務業我們現在是著眼於就是說 |
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比方說像剛提到的商圈或是說一些這個市場 |
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這些都是比較群聚型的 |
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那也許未來我們可能就是針對這些對象 |
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我們可能就要 |
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我們可能就要設計一下這個制度 |
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來量身訂做為這些服務業 |
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服務業還是很必要性的 |
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雖然製造業說你這個整體上的話 |
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它有個方向比較主導 |
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但是服務業它有更加需要 |
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因為整個都現在是半導體產業 |
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所以我們希望政府要著重 |
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在這個服務業的這個我們用專案的方式來制定 |
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這個專案方式的話你們會研究 |
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我們商業署這邊署長這邊 |
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你們有沒有研究怎麼樣什麼時候可以推出來 |
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對他們的引導 |
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其實我們現在就已經有在做 |
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商業服務業的人才的這個 |
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指引人才的這個 |
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其實我們指引已經有了 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
服務業的這個相關的指引都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7012.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7014.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
比如是哪方面的服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7014.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7016.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
不要說像這個零售餐飲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7016.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7018.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
然後另外就是物流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7018.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7022.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
這方面的這些這個服務業的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7022.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7024.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
不要局限在這個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7024.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7026.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
服務業很多種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7026.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7028.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
因為它的就業人口非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7028.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7030.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
如果在物流跟餐飲的話還是不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7030.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
我希望更有專業那個專案方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7036.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
針對這個服務業來制定一些標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7036.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7040.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
讓他們趕快的能夠提升他們針對AI這個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7040.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7042.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
能夠適用在他們的產業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7042.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7044.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
可以提升他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7044.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
這樣子的話他們也許可以有加薪的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7048.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7048.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7050.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
有業績就有加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7050.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7052.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
這方面的話請盡快制定專案好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7052.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7054.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
好謝謝委員提醒謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
好謝謝林運委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7063.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
接下來我們請政天才委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7075.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
主席有請經濟部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7080.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
好請經濟部和次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7084.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
政委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7087.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7087.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7088.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7088.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7089.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7090.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7092.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
現在的國際情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7092.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7094.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
經貿情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7094.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7096.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
以及全球供應鏈的重組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7096.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
數位科技應用人工智慧發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7101.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
資通安全風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7101.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
淨零碳排歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
少子女化及高齡化等議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7107.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7110.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
都是對中小企業經營環境造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7110.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7112.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
重大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7113.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7117.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
尤其是微型企業的資源有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7117.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7120.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
但是它是它是更是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7120.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7122.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
需要特別特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7122.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7124.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
來去加強的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7125.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7127.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
我們以現在的台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7129.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7130.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7131.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7133.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
或是微信切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7133.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7135.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
或是其他的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7136.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7138.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
這邊寫的列舉的這幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
你認為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7142.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7144.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
有積極在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7144.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7145.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7146 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7147 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
比較能夠達成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7148.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7149.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7150.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
比較能達成的是哪一個部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7152.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7154.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
我會說比較難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7154.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7155.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
比較容易達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7155.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7157.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
這邊寫的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7157.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7160.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
是很難就經濟部來講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7160.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7161.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7161.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7164.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
你你無法無法去處理的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7166.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
無法就是可能少子女化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7170.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
對完全正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7170.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7172.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
這個部分可能我們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7172.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7173.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
這是完全正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7174.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7175.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
重中之重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7175.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7177.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
我們現在台灣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7179.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
少子女化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7180.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7182.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
及高齡化等議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7184.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
所以是個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7185.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
這個經濟部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7187.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7190.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
你們要透過你們的相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7193.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7194.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
我們在中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7198.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7200.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
這個我們的勞工啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7201.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7202.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
的年齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7203.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7205.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7208.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
這個勞工的這些年齡階層 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7213.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
外老 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7215.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
外子老公 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7215.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
在中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7217.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7218.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7219.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7220.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
人數比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7223.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7225.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
你們要把這個提供啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7225.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7227.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
除了提供給經濟委員會之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7228.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7230.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
提供給國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7231.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7233.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
提供給國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7234.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7235.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
還有勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7236.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7237.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
當然國發會最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7238.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7239.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
因為設計到整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7240.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7242.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
國家的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7243.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
因為你不是你經濟部主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7246.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7250.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
所以你要提供給尤其是行政院院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
甚至總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7253.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7254.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
怎麼樣去解決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7256.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7257.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7257.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7258.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7260.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7261.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
沒有人怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7261.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7263.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
你再多了錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7263.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7264.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7264.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7267.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
都在這好好的政策也沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7268.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7269.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7269.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7272.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
我想行政院跟總統都有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7272.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7273.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
這個重要的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7273.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7276.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
針對少數女化跟高齡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7276.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7279.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
最近都有推出一些很重要的一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7279.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7281.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
應該多少可以緩解這樣的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7284.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
也是講給國發會聽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7288.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
當然經濟部很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7289.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7290.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
你們要去盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
現在的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7294.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7295.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
他退休之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7297.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7300.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
跟勞動部有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7300.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7301.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
老退 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7302.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7304.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
業退休金還是勞退 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7305.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7306.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
包括這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7309 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7311 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
部主所提拨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7311.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7312.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
提拨的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7314.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
那個退休 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7316.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7317.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
部主有提拨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7317.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
是我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7319.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7321.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
提拨6%那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7321.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
這樣加起來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7322.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7323.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7325.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7327.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
我告訴部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7327.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7328.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
也讓國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7328.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7329.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7329.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7330.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
也讓國發會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
你去比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7335 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7336 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
比農民還少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7337.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7338.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
比農民還少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7340.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7342.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
我們沒有說農民不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7342.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7343.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
農民該得的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7343.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
那是該得的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7345.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7347.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
但是比農民還少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7352.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
因為政府投入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7353.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7354.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
農民的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7355.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7356.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
有比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7357.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7359.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
包括退休 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7361.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7363.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
農民有退休儲金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7363.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7364.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
以前沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7364.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7365.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
現在有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7367.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
我們我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7367.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7368.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
最近有修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
政府投入的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7372.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
還增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7374.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
以前是5比5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7375.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7376.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
現在還增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7377.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7378.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
這個都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
要去真正的去解決經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7382.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7383.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
你要把這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7384.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7385.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
我們講的沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7386.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7388.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
你們去講才有用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7388.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7389.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
為什麼我們修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7390.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7391.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
不一定會變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7392.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7393.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
最近修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7393.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7395.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
制定的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7395.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
不附屬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7396.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7397.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7397.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7398.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
不附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7398.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7399.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
就會有這種狀況啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7400.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
這個本來是要解決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7404.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
掃指你畫的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7404.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7406.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7407.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7407.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7408.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7409.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7410.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
我們看這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7414.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
你們都很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7414.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7415.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
我就不再講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
我們看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7417.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7418.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
你看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7420.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
我們剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7421.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7422.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
剛才那個數字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7424.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7426.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
919.4萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7428.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7429.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7429.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7431.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
存在全國約八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
919.4萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7437 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7438 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
你看我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7438 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7440 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
你們是目前提供租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7440.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7444.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
受賄加薪基層員工才3萬1000多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7445.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
還要去加強的地方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
光從這個數字就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7455.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
就可以看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7455.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
所以跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
這也就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
為什麼要修中小介犯條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
為這個中小介犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
升級條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
等一下我會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7464.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7465.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
這個也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7466.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7467.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7467.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7468.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7468.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7470.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
為員工加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7470.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7471.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
並提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7471.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7473.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
額外信保額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
當然都要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7475.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
但是你看受賄員工人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
約33942人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7482 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7484 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
距離900多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7484 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7486 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
我再看一下這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7486.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7489.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
距離這個919.4萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7491.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
落差很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7491.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7493.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
所以這個都是稀有器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7493.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7494.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7495.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7498.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
我之所以要特別把這個數字寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7500.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
就是在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7503.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7504.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
進進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7504.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7507.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
嚴厲中小企業發展條例的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7509.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7513.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
怎麼樣要把它納入在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7513.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7515.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
因為人最重要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7515.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7518.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
沒有人怎麼去理再好的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7519.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7520.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7521.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7522.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
再好的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7523.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7524.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
沒有人去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7526.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
都是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7526.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7528.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
稀有器加強的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7530.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7530.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7535.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
你要嚴厲中小企業轉型升級發展條例也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7536.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7538.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7537.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7539.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
我知道你們要重視的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
你們都會去重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7544.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7545.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
比較會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7546.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7547.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
舒服的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7547.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7548.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
你會認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7548.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7550.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
這不應該是我的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7550.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7551.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
你會這樣想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7552.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7554.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
但是必須要跨部會的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7555.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7557.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
處理去因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7557.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7559.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
因為沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7559.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7561.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
你再好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7561.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7563.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
再好的這些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
你都沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7567.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
所以人是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7568.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7569.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7571.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
為什麼教育很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7571.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7572.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
就是因為要人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7572.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7573.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7573.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
要教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7575.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7575.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
所以我們要感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7577.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
當時的年代以防空大陸為主的年代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7582.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7583.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
民國57年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7584.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7585.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
開始有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7586.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7587.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7587.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7588.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7589.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
九年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7590.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7591.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
九年國教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7591.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7592.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7593.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7596.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
義務教育九年國教本來六年變九年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7597.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7598.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
現在變12年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7598.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7599.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
所以這個都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7599.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7600.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7600.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7601.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7602.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7604.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
你沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7605 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7606 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7606.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7607.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7607.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7608.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7608.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7609.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7609.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7610.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7610.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7611.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7611.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7612.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7612.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7613.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7613.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7615.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7615.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7616.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7616.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7617.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7617.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7618.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7618.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7619.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7620.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7621.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7621.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7622.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7622.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7623.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7624.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7624.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7625.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7625.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7626.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7626.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7627.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7627.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7628.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7628.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7629.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7629.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7630.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7630.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7631.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7632.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7632.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7633.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
你這有沒有人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7607.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7608.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
那如果在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
尤其是透過法律的制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
因為我們去訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
他等一下又不附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
所以你們要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
在內部在行政院相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7619.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7619.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
就要把它納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7622 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7624 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
好不好 好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7624 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7625 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
好 謝謝鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7633.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7633.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7635.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
蘇清泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7635.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7637.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
接下來我們請葉源之委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
主席好 因為我看到國庫署有人來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7656.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
我先請國庫署 先問一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7657.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
請國庫署蔡慧琳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7675.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7676.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7676.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7677.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
委員你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7677.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7678.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7678.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7679.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
因為大家關心的一個話題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7679.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7681.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
因為我們現在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7681.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7683.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
他有講說要補發一萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7683.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7685.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
那本來這個消息傳出來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7685.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7686.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
自由時報的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7686.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7689.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
他引述一個行政院的人事指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7689.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7693.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
如果預算在今年順利三讀通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7693.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7697.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
明年我們國人最快就可以在農曆春節前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7697.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7700.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
領到這一萬的大紅包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7703.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
那後來我就看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7703.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7704.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
國庫署出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7705.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7707.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
講另外一個完全不一樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7707.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7710 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7712 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
即便是預算三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7712 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7714 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
但是因為這個不是特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7714 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7715 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
這是一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7715 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7718 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
所以還是有一個正常的發包程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7722.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
包括就是客服啊 發放系統啊 梅宣招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7722.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7724.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
也都要走採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7724.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7726.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
所以起碼要再至少要五個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7726.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7728.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
那我就簡單算了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7728.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7730.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
如果今年年底三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7730.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7732.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
五個月那也是明年五月以後的事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7732.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7733.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
最快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7733.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7735.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
那怎麼趕得上春節咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7735.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7737.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
這個國庫署可不可以說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7739.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7741.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
發放對 到底最快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7741.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7744.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
是不是有如行政院知情人士說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7744.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7747.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
即便三讀通過馬上一個月就可以領得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7747.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7749.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
春節就可以領得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7749.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7750.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
不好意思 跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7750.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7752.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
因為我們今天主題是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7752.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
總統企業融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
那撫發的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7757.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
不是你的業務是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7757.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7759.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
那你的了解咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7759.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
這完全不是你的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
對 那我們是不是可以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7764.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7764.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
這不是 不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7766.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
你是不清楚沒辦法回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7766.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7768.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
是因為主題不是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7768.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
所以你不想回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7770.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7770.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
就是我的月館業務就是沒有接觸到這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7775.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
所以那個訊息可能不夠完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7775.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
那你們事後你回去之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7778.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7778.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
好不好 各位分支 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7782.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
因為我想要知道到底是行政院知情人士亂講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7782.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
還是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7786.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
不然為什麼行政院的講法跟國庫署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7786.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7788.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
我當然比較相信國庫署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7788.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
因為你們是執行單位啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7790.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
你們一定有把相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7791.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7792.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
就是期程算進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7792.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7795.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
那為什麼那時候行政院知情人士要隨便講咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7795.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7796.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
故意講一個春節錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7796.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7798.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
然後還扣一個帽子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7798.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7799.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
如果立法院三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7799.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7801.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
那到時候民眾春節領不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7801.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7803.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
可能是因為國庫署作業的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7803.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7804.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
但是又扣帽子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7804.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7806.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
又是立法院在擋預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7806.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
讓大家領不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7808.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
我覺得如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7808.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
又在搞認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7810.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
所以我想要釐清這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7810.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
那我也不為難你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7811.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7815.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
你事後請國庫署把相關的資料整理給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7815.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7816.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7816.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7817.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7817.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7818.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
我們提供書面說明 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7818.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7819.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7819.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7820.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
那接下來請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
政務次長 何次長好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7823.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
我們請這個何次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7828.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
好 業務好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7828.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7829.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
我先跟您請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7829.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7830.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
因為現在經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7830.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
有將中小企業如果直接或間接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7835.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
有受到美國關稅影響的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7835.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
都會列為中小微企業專案的貸款的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7842.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
其實這個做法就顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7842.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7844.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
就是美國的關稅的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7844.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7846.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
其實是會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7846.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7848.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
我們台灣的中小企業的現金流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7848.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7851.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
所以你們才會提出這樣的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7851.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7855.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
但我覺得中小企業遭受到比較大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7856.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
是在於說像大企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
我們現在一直在講說AI 半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
這種大企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7865.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
它可以因為全球佈局或跟國際接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7865.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
在國外設廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7869.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
它可以有一個出口比較高速的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7869.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7870.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
可是中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7870.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7872.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
它可能就沒有辦法用一樣的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7872.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
所以你們才會用專案貸款補助的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
來協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
那我想先請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7880.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
你們有評估過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7880.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7882.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
像這種中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7882.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
這個大概有多少企業會受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7886.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
然後有沒有評估過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7886.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7888.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
因為這樣子導致於中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7888.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7891.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
他們的出口的產值下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7891.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7892.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
然後毛利率甚至下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7892.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7894.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
甚至產生裁員的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7894.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7896.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
你們有沒有評估過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7897.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7898.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7898.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
就從我們的數字來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
我們這個專案推出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7903.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
有來申請的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7905.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
加入大概有一千多家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
一千多家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
所以很顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7909.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
大概帶出去多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7910.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7912.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
帶出去我手頭上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7912.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
我請同仁給我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7919.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7920.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7921.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7922.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
大概有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7923.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7925.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
一把我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7929.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7931.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
應該是大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7934.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7935.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
179.8億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7936.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7937.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
179.8億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7937.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7939.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
就是已經帶出去179.8億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7939.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7940.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7940.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7942.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
好那我想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7942.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7944.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
我們現在持續在做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7944.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7946.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
一千多家179.8億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7946.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7948.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
那你想要達到KPI到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7948.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7949.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
你不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7949.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7951.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
無止盡的這樣子貸款出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7951.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7953.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
那會不會形成呆帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7953.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7955.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
那請教一下你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7955.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7956.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
KPI是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7956.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7958.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
我自己發出去多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7958.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7959.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
當作KPI嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7960.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7962.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
還是你是以保住多少企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7962.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7963.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7963.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7965.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
你是讓這些中小企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7965.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
營業額成長毛利率增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7967.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7969.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
然後員工薪資提升來KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7969.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7971.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
到底現在經濟部在這一塊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7971.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7973.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
你的策略到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7973.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7974.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
其實跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7974.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
當然就是要維持企業正常營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
然後保證不裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
不減薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
這個當然是最重要的一個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
那第二個部分當然就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
我們也會看 |
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7986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
企業它是不是有受到其他的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
如果還有其他影響的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
我們有一些其他的福好事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
我們也會進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
所以這個其實是要綜合來看的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
也不見得說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8001.05 |
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只有看一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
我剛剛講了很多指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
對 所以那指標都要綜合來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
市長這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8007.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
你可能還需要同仁提供資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8011.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
你提供一份資料給本席好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8011.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
就是說你做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
到底你的KPI目標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8016.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
那現在怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8016.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8017.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
有沒有一些中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8017.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8018.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
已經撐不下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8018.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8020.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
然後裁員裁多少呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8020.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
那到底做這件事情有沒有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8025.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
還有你有沒有一個長遠的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8025.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
因為這絕對是這一兩年很重要課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8030.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
你們到底具體來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8030.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8031.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
你的對策是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8031.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8033.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
你一併提供給我好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8033.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8036.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
然後另外再提醒一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8036.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
因為我們現在在的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8040.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
其實很多服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8040.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8042.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
或者是傳統產業反應缺工的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8042.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8043.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
非常嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8043.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8045.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
而且這個缺工已經影響到他們的產值了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8045.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8047.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
我舉個例子來講好像餐廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8047.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8049.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
有一個餐廳跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8049.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8051.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
他們現在小菜都變比較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8051.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
他們小菜本來很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8053.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
那為什麼現在小菜比較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8053.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8054.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
因為沒有人去切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8054.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8056.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
然後其實他也不是薪水開得低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8056.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8059.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
薪水已經開到接近5萬塊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8059.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8060.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
5萬左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8060.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8062.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
然後也就正常上班也沒加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8062.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8064.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
這就沒有人要來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8064.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8065.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
就沒有人來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8065.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8067.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
所以他的產值就減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8067.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8068.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
那我還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8069.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8070.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
聽說另外一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8070.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8074.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
他也是做在市場切雞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8074.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
薪水開到7萬多塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8077.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
沒有人來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8077.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
雞沒有人切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8079.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
所以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8080.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8082.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
所以現在影響到中小企業的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8082.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8084.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
有一個很大的原因是缺工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8086.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8087.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8089.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
好像公總也有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8089.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8090.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
那個建議也有講到這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8090.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8091.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8092.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8094.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
經濟部或者是國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8094.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
對於缺工這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
到底有沒有什麼對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
當然就是說我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
用數位的工具來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
解決部分的缺工的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
數位工具沒有辦法解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8109.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
那你要AI去幫忙切菜喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8109.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8112.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
或是機器手臂或是自動網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8112.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
怎麼可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8115.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
小吃店還能自動手臂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8115.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8117.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
市長這都不切實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8117.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8119.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
現在人家面臨到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8119.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8120.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
產值逐漸下滑的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8120.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
你還跟他講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8122.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
用機器手臂去切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8122.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8123.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
哪有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8123.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8125.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
那就是一般的餐飲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8125.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8127.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
這一塊到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8128.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8129.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
請國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8129.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
副主委來回答一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8132.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
因為我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8132.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8134.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
副主委你有回答公總的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8134.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8136.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
針對傳統產業缺工這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8136.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8138.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
到底現在政府對策到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8138.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8140.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
是那個謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8140.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8142.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
因為我們對於傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8142.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8144.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
特別是製造業的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8144.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8145.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
過去相對上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8145.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8147.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
在人力的補充措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8147.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
因為需求比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8150.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
所以過去比較有相關的對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8150.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
那現在因為已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8153.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
開始擴充到委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8153.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8155.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
剛剛提到的比較是中小微 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8155.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8157.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
或者是服務業的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8157.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
那這部分當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
一方面我們是希望這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8161.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
比較長期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8161.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8163.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
是透過我們的人口新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8163.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8165.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8165.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
那比較短期的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8167.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
人口新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8167.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
現在少子化就越來越嚴重了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8169.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
對所以我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8169.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8171.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
真的是比較長期的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8171.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
你說要提供人口新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8177.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
但是你們國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8177.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8179.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
或是政府的少子化辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8179.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8181.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
成立了這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
那我們的人口是越來越少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
所以網路上就戲稱說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
少子化辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
真的造成了少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8187.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
沒有所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
你現在還在跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
我們要解決缺工時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
要用人口新戰略來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
我覺得大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
我現在講的很務實的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
人家在跟我談的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
都是非常憂心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
怎麼辦委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我們現在如何如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
市長怎樣怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
結果我們來國會質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8201.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
我們官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
我們官員在跟我講空話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
我們有人口新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8204.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
沒有沒有我是說長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8206.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
我先講就是眼前嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
眼前的問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
你現在要怎麼做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8210.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
他們說服務業的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8212.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
的確是比較困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8213.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
那怎麼辦嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8214.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
沒有我們中小微的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8216.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
這個新的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
可能會透過擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
對於中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8222.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
在增固基層員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8224.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
或者是聘僱中高零就業方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
做一些新的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8228.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
無論是補助或租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
來協助這些服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8232.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
在目前面臨缺工的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8234.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
你現在你是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8235.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8237.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
你有計畫出來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8238.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8240.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
現在經濟部跟各部會正在研擬中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8240.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
應該很快會推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
就是說你現在你們的規劃方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8245.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
是透過補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8245.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
譬如說像中小微 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8246.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8247.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
現在沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8247.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
聘不到員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
那所以呢你就補助薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
例如說他們這邊出5萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8253.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
政府補助2萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8253.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8255.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
7萬塊看有沒有人要來切菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8255.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
增固員工有那個費用加成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8259.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
費用加成嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8259.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
就是類似這樣的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
又是用補助的方式嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8263.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
還有中高零就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8263.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
還有中高零就業也是一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8265.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
中高零就業也是一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8265.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8267.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
就要用推出這種措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8267.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
推出這種方式來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
看看有沒有辦法協助他們找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
那如果人口不夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8273.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
到大家都在搶人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8273.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
還是不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
所以你們現在都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
頭頭一頭腳頭一腳吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
哇東牆補西牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
我們幫他會這個真的拜託一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8283.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
這個缺工問題也不是一天兩天了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8283.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8285.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
今天來這邊問你這樣回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8285.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8287.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
我真的覺得政府好像都沒有很在乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8287.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8289.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
不是因為這部分有新的措施啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8289.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
中小微企業聽到你的回答會很難過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
希望多加油好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8293.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8295.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
你剛剛那個政策提供給我一份好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8295.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
什麼時候可以有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8299.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
應該很快就會宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8299.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8300.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8302.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
哦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8302.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
如果就法律的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8304.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8306.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
我們是以九月的這個為目標啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8306.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8308.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
九月曆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8308.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
所以能夠送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8312.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
那政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8312.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
學習要更慢了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8314.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8316.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
你行政命令可以做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8316.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8318.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8318.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8320.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
輔導的或是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8320.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
這個協助的措施可能是用行政措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8322.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
但有一些像剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8326.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
租稅或擴大這個協助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8326.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8328.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
有些要透過法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8328.28 |
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8330.28 |
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所以這個法律會送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8330.28 |
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8332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
這樣你理解是還蠻嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8332.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8334.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
希望政府官員可以正視這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8334.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8336.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8338.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8340.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
好 我們謝謝葉原子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8340.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8342.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
接下來陳超明委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8342.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8344.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
陳超明委員陳超明委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8344.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8346.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
接下來我們請蔡益妤委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8357.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
好 我們先請經濟部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8362.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
這個產業發展署的副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8371.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
好 我們請發署陳副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
蔡委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8376.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8378.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8379.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
這個部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8380.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8382.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
部長我們上一次經濟委員會的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8384.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8386.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
事實上有去看了幾個商場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8388.85 |
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8390.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
包括蒜頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8390.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8392.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
蒜頭的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8394.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
他們的傳統的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
那以及我們現在我之前質詢有去講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
副署的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
事實上這個市場都需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
有一些整建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
那當時都是說必須要在這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
核定後8年1000億的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
那我現在想要請教的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
那我們這樣幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8414.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
商場的整建案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8414.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8416.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
都未來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8416.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8418.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
有需要改建的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8418.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8420.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
這個都有辦法被落實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8420.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8422.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8422.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8424.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
那到時候我們會看預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8424.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8426.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
編列的這個額度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8426.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8428.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
內容我們會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8428.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8430.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8430.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8432.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
這個公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8432.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8434.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
這個真 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8437.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
審查的這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8437.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8439.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
來救全國各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8439.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8441.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
急迫需要做改建的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8441.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8443.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
這樣的一個市場我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8443.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8445.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
會來做優先的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8445.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8447.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
來做整建 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8447.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
所以說你們現在只能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8451.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
案件的收集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8451.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8453.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
那等到預算通過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8453.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8455.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
再來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8455.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8457.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
再看如何要執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8457.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8459.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
因為這樣看起來這一些傳統的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8459.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8461.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
傳統的市場他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8461.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8463.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
面對他可能客源比較沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8463.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8465.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
辦法進去主要都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8465.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8467.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
一些硬體啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8467.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8469.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
以及他的這個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8469.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8471.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
移動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8471.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8473.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
空間的一個環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8473.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
現在的人可能都習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
要在冷氣有冷氣的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
你傳統的市場他就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
辦法有冷氣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
所以有沒有可能打造出他們裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
更舒適的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
讓現在的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
也會是喜歡去這裡消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
那我想這個是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8493.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
應該是可以考慮去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8493.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8495.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
如何落實到這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8495.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8497.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
當然並不是所有的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8497.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8499.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
都適合那樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8499.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
但是總是可以去增強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
像我們去蒜頭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
他的傳統市場他是天花板剝落的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
天花板剝落就是很基本的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
像這個我想說可以做的我們就快點做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
那我接下來來問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8517.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
跟這幾天的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8517.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8519.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
雲嘉南的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8519.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8521.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
洪水這個大雨是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8521.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8523.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
那我還是要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8523.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8525.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
次長啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8525.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8527.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
所以這個長沙鼠這邊可以先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8527.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8529.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
可以先不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8529.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8531.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
我還請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8531.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8533.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
因為現在總預算通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8533.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8535.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
那當然在之前卡到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8535.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8537.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
就是今年度的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8537.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8539.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
變得很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8539.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8541.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
我們一直很 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8541.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8543.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
要緊的這個治水的一個工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8543.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8545.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
事實上多多少少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8545.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8547.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
都被延宕到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8547.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8549.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那這個延宕事實上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8549.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8551.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
玩這次很熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8551.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8553.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
這次的這個好大雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8553.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8555.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
而且甚至有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8555.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8557.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
熱帶地氣壓在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8557.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8559.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
星期八一的晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8559.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8561.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
竟然直接在我們嘉義布袋的外海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8561.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8563.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
就形成了TD24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8563.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8565.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
一個熱帶地氣壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8565.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
這個過去也是前所未見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
因為它已經臨界快要變成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
小型颱風了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8573.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
一個青苔了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8573.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
所以直接在我們台灣海峽的外海就形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
所以事實上造成了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
這個大雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
從台南高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8583.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
屏東到我們嘉義事實上都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8583.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
很嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8587.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
還是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
回過頭去要緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
從去年丹那斯之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8592.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
我們多次會刊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8592.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8594.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
那有包括嘉義水上的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8594.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
南進大排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
南進大排就從水上然後經過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
空軍第四聯隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
然後會接到入草這整段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8604.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
的一個南進大排的排水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8604.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8606.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
那以及我們六角大排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8606.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
六角大排我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
下游開始往上施作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
目前大概只施作到六角段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
未來還有新港段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
那這兩個排水的治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8618.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
起碼都可能需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8619.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
一二十億以上的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8621.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
每一個治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8623.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
所以我們之前在六角大排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8625.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
也說我們要分六年來施作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8627.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
那分六年施作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8629.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
今年已經第三年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那看起來今年的進度是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8634.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8636.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
幾乎沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8635.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8637.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
就可能是因為總預算拖到的八月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8637.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8639.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
所以我們當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8639.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8641.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
對鄉親承諾六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8641.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8643.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
要整治六角大排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8643.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8645.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
我擔心今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8645.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8647.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
今年就慢了一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8647.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8649.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
那明年有辦法因為在今年總預算過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8649.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8651.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
然後迅速來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8651.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8653.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
核定六角大排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8653.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8655.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
然後讓他可以繼續往上游推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8655.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8657.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
趕快進入到新港段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8657.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8659.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
他整個都是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8659.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8661.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
急迫需要治水的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8661.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8663.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
那我想要請教一下次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8663.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8665.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
在於整個今年的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8665.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8667.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
這樣拖到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8667.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8669.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
那你未來怎麼去旅行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8669.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8671.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
我們對鄉親的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8671.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8673.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
這一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8673.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
其實剛委員提到六角排水的治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8679.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
那目前還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
大概六點六公里的治理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
這個核斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8685.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
我們優先來拓寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8685.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
預計大概一百一十五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
就今年九月底可以完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
可以開工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
那後續可能還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
這個工程施作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
這個利用我們四年一千億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
治水預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8703.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們來這個核定給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8703.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8705.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
嘉義縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8705.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8707.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
來作為這個工程的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8707.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
那當然後續的這個治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
可能還需要33.7億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8713.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
那這個部分我想我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8713.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
還要33.7億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
可能就是六角 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8719.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
33.7億是指做到新港 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8719.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
還是單六角而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8723.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
應該是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8723.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8725.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
後面還要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8725.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
拓寬到新港那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8727.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
到新港還要33億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8729.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8731.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
所以這個是第一個預算規模很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8731.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8733.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
第二個因為是逐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8733.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8735.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
施作嘛因為現在也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8735.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8737.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
包括說他的工程量能的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8737.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8739.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
所以我們是分幾年嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8739.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8741.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
但是分年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8741.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8743.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
你看每一年如果遇到這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8743.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8745.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
強降雨每一年大家都會處在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8745.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8747.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
一個憂心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8747.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8749.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
我覺得今年這個整段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8749.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8751.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
大概是下雨集中沒有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8751.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8753.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
新港六角那邊所以我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8753.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8755.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
也算是幸運的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8755.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8757.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
在那邊沒有災情的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8757.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8759.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
但是我們不能多把它永遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8759.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8761.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
寄託在這種未知數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8761.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8763.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
所以你們應該還是要思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8763.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
要怎麼做可以給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8766.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
盡快的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
把整個治水的量能也吹出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8772.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
預算就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8771.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8773.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
如果可以的話就盡量讓他先到位嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8773.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8775.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
你先到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8775.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8777.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
至少他不用說每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8777.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8779.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
每年要再重新核定的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8779.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8781.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
你讓他一次到位後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8781.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8783.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
接下來就是怎麼去調配 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8783.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8785.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
他的工程量能讓他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8785.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8787.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
再快一點的把它完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8787.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8789.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
是這個部分我們會跟嘉義縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8789.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8791.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
的水利局的水利單位的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8791.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8793.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
來一起來考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8793.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
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我希望是由 |
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8795.99 |
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8797.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
經濟部以及我們五合分署 |
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8797.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8799.99 |
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你們直接盯緊進度 |
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8799.99 |
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8801.99 |
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對我們縣政府也一樣 |
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8801.99 |
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8803.99 |
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給他們壓力 |
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8803.99 |
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8805.99 |
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說錢我們也是要給你喔 |
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8805.99 |
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8807.99 |
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預算我們給你喔 |
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8807.99 |
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8809.99 |
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你們進度怎麼 |
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8809.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
跟你們這邊配合怎麼吹出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8813.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
就是說由你們來盯緊進度 |
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8813.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8815.99 |
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六角排水跟南進排水 |
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8815.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8817.99 |
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因為他們已經 |
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8817.99 |
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8819.99 |
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淹太多次了 |
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8819.99 |
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8821.99 |
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我們希望是說 |
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8821.99 |
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8823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
不要說每次都寄託在 |
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8823.99 |
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8825.99 |
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新年降雨期中就是不帶冬食 |
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8825.99 |
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8827.99 |
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不帶冬食那裡正好我們整治的 |
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8827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
也有成效所以這次在不帶冬食 |
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8829.99 |
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8831.99 |
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就是 |
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8831.99 |
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8833.99 |
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看起來是比較沒有淹水的狀況 |
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8833.99 |
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8835.99 |
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正好下雨也集中在那邊 |
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8835.99 |
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8837.99 |
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那以後如果下雨又集中在 |
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8837.99 |
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8839.99 |
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不同區塊 |
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8839.99 |
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8841.99 |
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就換那邊可能會淹水 |
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8841.99 |
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8843.99 |
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所以我是覺得說 |
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8843.99 |
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8845.99 |
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拜託你們來盯緊進度 |
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8845.99 |
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8847.99 |
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然後預算一次到位 |
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8847.99 |
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8849.99 |
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那我再來問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8849.99 |
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8851.99 |
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那接下來再問另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8851.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8853.99 |
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一樣是因為總預算已經通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8853.99 |
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8855.99 |
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所以我再 |
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8855.78 |
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8857.78 |
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整個年度 |
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8857.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8859.78 |
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就一直要再追可是都卡在總預算 |
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8859.78 |
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8861.78 |
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都沒辦法問的問題 |
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8861.78 |
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8863.78 |
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就是說應該 |
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8863.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
市長也很知道我現在很要緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8867.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
我們這個亞創二館 |
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8867.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8869.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
因為我們整個無人機的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8869.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8871.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
一個發展嘛那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8871.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8873.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
知道亞創中心就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8873.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
它整個是未來它的 |
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8875.78 |
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8877.78 |
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測試啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
以及它整個研發的一個 |
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8879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
一個中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
但是無人機的亞創一館 |
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8883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
已經進駐了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
企業已經五十幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
那五十幾家它的空間完全不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
所以我們需要亞創二館 |
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8891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
甚至亞創二館裡面它還有規劃著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
一些一個跑道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
一個測試跑道 |
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8897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
所以它才會變成一個完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8901.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
無人機的一個 |
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8901.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
一個研發測試中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
那亞創二館說預算之前 |
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8905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8907.78 |
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是卡還差 |
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8907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8909.78 |
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還差11.3億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8909.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
顯3、4億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
當時也是說卡在總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
說你們沒有辦法來核定 |
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8915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
那現在總預算通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
我們亞創二館的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
可以來核定了嗎 |
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8921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8923.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
是我們就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8923.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
盡快來核定這樣的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
不過後續可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
還有一些經費我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
正在送那個公建的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
審查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
可能會編在未來年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8935.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
這個預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8937.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8939.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
那是後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8939.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8941.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
應該跟二期這個是分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8941.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8943.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
分開看的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8943.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8945.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
二期這一塊是照原先計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8945.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8947.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
因為它可能就是一些工程案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8947.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8949.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
它需要把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8949.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
整個無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
周遭的一個環境要把它打造出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8955.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
所以這個應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8955.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
可以先核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
那當然後面還會有後面的後續計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8961.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
那這個我們很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8961.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8963.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
那因為接下來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8963.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
634億的無人機預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8967.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
這個事實上也涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8967.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8969.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
未來的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8969.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
你們要在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8971.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8973.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
無人機是還包括無人船 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8974.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8976.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
除了在天上飛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8976.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8978.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
也有在水下跑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8978.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8980.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
這都很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8980.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8982.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
那我們嘉義如果這邊是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8982.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8984.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
整個無人機的一個研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8984.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8986.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
甚至民雄航海基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8986.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8988.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
它會是未來的一個生產中心的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8988.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8990.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
它未來要在對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8990.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8992.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
作為無人機是飛是航的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8992.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8994.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
一個場域就很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8994.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8996.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
那次長我們之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8996.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
也有建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9000.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
這個布袋商港的難題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9000.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
它那邊有超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9004.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
30加40 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9004.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
超過70公頃的一個面積 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9008.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
那未來商港的難題我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9008.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
它那邊是距離澎湖最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
從布袋港到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
龍門港是台灣跟澎湖最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9016.39 |
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那如果無人機 |
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無人船的概念是可以從這邊 |
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來做出發 |
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直接到澎湖港去做 |
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兩個地方的對接的話 |
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事實上過去都認為說 |
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這是一個最好的一個 |
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它的測試的一個情境空間 |
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那這一塊當然也要 |
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交通部來認為說 |
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是否可行嘛 |
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但是我覺得說既然這個 |
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無人機的這個630的預算通過 |
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那我們對於整個無人機 |
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打造這個無人機國家 |
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對測試非常的重要 |
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是飛是航的一個 |
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空間很重要 |
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那是不是這一塊也可以 |
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快一點來 |
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做一個現場的 |
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會勘然後最後來看怎麼去讓 |
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讓它落實 |
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我想我們會把委員的 |
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這個建議我們會 |
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跟交易部這邊來 |
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交易部交通部 |
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交通部對因為我講了好幾次 |
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我在經濟委員會 |
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只是說現在看起來我們 |
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這幾次的排無人機議題 |
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交通部沒有到 |
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所以事實上我也希望你們趕快跟交通部來確認 |
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到底無人機 |
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你們國內的無人機尤其是在 |
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西我們台灣的一個 |
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西半部的並不是東邊的 |
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西半部如果這邊會有產業的 |
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聚落的話它無人機 |
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到底買到氣盤買到氣行型 |
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這個東西要快點決定 |
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這樣好不好好好謝謝 |
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市長謝謝謝謝委員 |
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好謝謝蔡議員與委員 |
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謝謝 |
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登記的發言委員除不在場外 |
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7月15日發言完畢 |
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尋答結束 |
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委員正正前赴 |
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昆琦邱義營謝一鳳 |
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徐新雲陳超明委員 |
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所提書面質詢 |
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列入紀錄判登登報 |
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書面質詢和 |
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未集答覆部分 |
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請相關單位一週內 |
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以書面答覆不複製本會 |
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委員另要求 |
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期限者重啟所定 |
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本次會議議事令授權 |
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由本席 |
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核定後確定本日 |
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所列議程處理玩具 |
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現在上後 |
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會議結束 |
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