| IVOD_ID |
17677 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17677 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第30次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
30 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第30次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T08:34:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T12:17:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:42:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/7a505bc1fba11f2d3c2285d48b505b513f1a54489b3c359bd4a54903b68e37ff29a79fa0757375eb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第30次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍、僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告「外交與僑務協同培育青年國際視野之執行成效與多語布局」，並備質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:34:29 - 12:17:00 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
出席委員11人已足法定人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
1636.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1638.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
好 我們開始開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1638.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1641.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
請醫事人員宣讀上次會議醫事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
1642.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1648.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
立法院第十一屆第五會期外交及國防委員會第29次全體委員會議議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1648.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1654.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
時間中華民國115年8月5日星期三上午9時1分至11時29分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1654.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1658.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
地點紅樓三零一會議室出席委員陳永康等14人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1658.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1660.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
夜席委員許宗信等4人 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1660.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
夜席人員國防部部長顧立雄及所屬人員主席馬昭吉委員文君 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1668.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
報告是 想醫宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1668.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1674.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
二 邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告因應敵情與灰色地帶威脅升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1674.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
國軍如何強化官兵精神戰力建構及心理韌性作為並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
國防部部長顧立雄政治作戰局局長是順文報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1685.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
委員陳俊宇等12人質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1692.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
軍友國防部部長顧立雄政治作戰局局長是順文政治作戰局文勳新站處處長王怡紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1696.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
陸軍司令部參謀長陳建義 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1696.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
憲兵指揮部參謀長張純志及國家中山科學研究院院長李世強等集席答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
決定因登記質詢在場委員均已發言完畢報告及巡達結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
二委員盧美林、林楚英、徐巧芯所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
三委員所提書面及口頭質詢未及答覆後要求提供之資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
請國防部與二中令以書面答覆本會全體委員並赴資本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1723.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
委員令指定期限者從其鎖定 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1727.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1729.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
請醫事人員宣讀報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1729.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
邀請外交部部長林佳龍、僑務委員會委員長許家清報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1742.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
外交與僑務協同培育青年國際事業之執行成效與多餘佈局並被質詢宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
好,我們現在介紹在場委員以及與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1750.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
首先介紹陳永康陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1755.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
以及外交部林佳龍林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1756.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1759.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
亞東太平洋司林鴻勳林副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1764.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
亞西吉非洲司袁家良嚴司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1765.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1767.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
歐洲司黃軍耀黃司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1769.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
拉美吉加勒比海斯韓智政韓司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1774.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1778.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
國條約法律司李憲章理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1780.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1784.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
國際合作及經濟事務司葉志成葉司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1787.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1791.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
國際組織司孫檢員孫司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1794.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1797.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
國際傳播司張秀蓁張司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1798.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1801.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
研究設計會柯良瑞柯主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1803.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1805.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
秘書處陳錦麟陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1808.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1811.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
人事處呂士一呂處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1812.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1815.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
政風處孔縣台孔處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1816.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1818.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
主席處理配華呂處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1823.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
公眾外交協調會陳怡君陳副執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1825.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1830.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
非政府組織國際事務會江政委江執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1831.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1834.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
臨時事務局鄭政永政局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1835.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1839.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
外交及國際事務學院李倩儀黎副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1841.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1844.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
臺灣日本關係協會洪英傑洪秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1851.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
成委委員會徐家清徐委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1853.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1855.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
李延慧 李副委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1856.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1858.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
榮耀榮主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1861.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1864.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
以及綜合規劃處吳春芳吳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1867.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
僑民處陳永峰陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1869.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1871.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
僑教處林紀勇 林處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1872.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1874.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
僑商處莊雅淑莊處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
僑生處張文華張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1879.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
主席是柯淑玲 柯主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1883.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1886.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
曹悟通訓社 羅榮 羅總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1887.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1892.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
財團法人海華文教基金會 廖雲軒 廖執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1896.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
本日會議邀請外交部僑務委員會報告外交與僑務協同培育青年國際視野之執行成效與多餘布局並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1909.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
我們現在請外交部林部長上台報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1920.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
主席、各位委員、各位女士先生大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1922.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1934.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
陳文貴委員會邀請報告外交與僑務協同培育青年國際視野之執行成效與多餘布局來進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1935.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1942.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
青年是台灣未來的棟梁和希望也是台灣外交最重要的資產與公眾外交的堅冰 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1942.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1950.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
那外交部基於總和外交策略、整合資源與僑務委員會、教育部等相關部會協同合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1950.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1952.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
擴大青年交流國際網絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1952.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1955.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
發揮步步都是外交部的忠孝 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1955.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1963.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
那也呢加強培育具備國際視野、具跨文化溝通能力跟多餘優勢的青年人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1963.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1967.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
那也在這次的青年國際視野中,鼓勵青年以自身的專業與行動走向世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1967.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1973.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
代表民主台灣分享台灣故事,落實人人都是外交官的理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1973.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1978.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
那在政府推動青年國際參與方面,我們的核心目標有三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1978.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1986.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
一是呢拓展青年國際視野與實務經驗,培養具全球競爭力的下一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1986.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1994.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
二是透過青年真實互動,向國際社會傳遞民主台灣的價值,創新與溫和 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
溫暖 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1997.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2005.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
三是建立海內外青年網絡,強化公眾外交永續動能 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2006.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那本人在接任外交部長之後,也很重視推動青年參與國際事務跟公眾外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
特別是本部與教育部僑委會等部會,全力協同推動青年百億海外圓夢基金的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
配合僑委會推動台灣青年海外搭橋計畫與相關培立 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
並藉由本部推動國際青年大使、外交小艦兵及選送青年學子赴海外國際非政府組織實習計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2044.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
等多元的方式,來深化台灣跟友邦以及友好國家的實質交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2044.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2052.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
那首先呢,在外交部主導的相關的重要計畫方面呢,有以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2052.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
好,這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2055.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2060.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
八個重要的計畫,我再做一些補充的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2060.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2064.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第一項是青年百億海外圓夢基金計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2064.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2066.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
那賴清德總統在 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2067.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2073.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
這個上年的1月24日宣布啟動青年百億海外圓夢基金計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2073.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2077.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
並納入我國邦交國的青年來台圓夢 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2077.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2079.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
就是一個雙向的圓夢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2079.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2083.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
那期待以國家力量協助青年拓展國際鏈結交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2083.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2089.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
那引領青年多元創意的行動,並培養多元產業的青年人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2089.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2094.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
那同時也借以強化我們的固邦還有農邦的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2094.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2098.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那在外交部全力配合教育部推動該項計畫呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2098.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2103.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
上年提報了26案海外翱翔組實施計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2103.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2108.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
提供43名我國青年赴海外機構實習 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2108.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2111.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
那今年更進一步提報了51案 |
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提供了107個名額給我國青年海外實習機會 |
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並與教育部合作辦理年度旗艦計畫 |
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那以農邦計畫青年國際科技交流為主題 |
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具體內容包括半導體供應的任性 |
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可信賴網路與數位治理 |
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主權AI以及新能源與探全合作 |
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等我國優勢的科技產業 |
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那提報27案旗艦計畫 |
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既有48個名額供我國青年來申請 |
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那這項計畫迄今執行也成果相當豐碩 |
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如上年全年共協助1463位 |
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15至30歲的台灣青年 |
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順利走入國際 |
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在各國進行間隙跨國合作跟多元的行動 |
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那另外呢在推動邦交國青年來台圓夢方面 |
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我們分為計畫型跟提案型 |
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鼓勵我邦交國的青年透過參與我國政府計畫 |
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或自主提案來台圓夢 |
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至今共吸引66名邦交國青年來台交流 |
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執行情況也相當的良好 |
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再來第二個重要的計畫是國際青年大使交流計畫 |
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這個是自2009年起每年都遴選 |
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2189.17 |
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優秀大專院校的學生單點青年大使 |
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2192.17 |
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赴邦交國及友好國家訪問交流 |
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至今已培育超過1900名的青年人才 |
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遍及外交文化科技農業教育及公共事務等不同領域 |
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2207.17 |
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由外交部進而輔導組成社團法人台灣國際青年大使協會 |
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2212.17 |
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在今年5月在外交部舉行成立大會及第一屆的會員大會 |
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我們希望透過這些參加過國際青年大使的這些年輕人 |
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2227.17 |
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他們雖然後來進入社會也能夠持續來幫助或持續成長 |
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所以這樣的一個協會的成立讓我們多了將近2000名 |
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可以來帶領年輕人帶來年輕人這樣的一個傳承跟創新 |
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這個計畫今年擴大選了46位的國際青年大使 |
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分兩梯是在8月下旬組團要出訪帛琉以及盛文森克里斯多福還有尼維斯等友邦 |
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2257.17 |
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除爭選具備外語宣誡及文化才藝專長的青年學子外 |
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為了展現台灣的科技創新力 |
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2264.17 |
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今年的國際青年大使首度招募無人機飛手加入 |
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2268.17 |
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將於太平洋島國論壇Pacific Island Forest |
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2271.17 |
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期間展現台灣的無人機科技 |
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也將在龍幫特展中協助接待和導覽 |
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第三個計畫是外交小尖兵世界領航營 |
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2285.17 |
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為落實協助我國青年學子積極參與國際的一個政策的這樣的理念 |
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並培育高中職學生的英語還有國際溝通能力 |
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2297.17 |
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外交部和教育部自2002年起就合辦了外交小尖兵英語總指隊選拔活動 |
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2302.17 |
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我們進一步把它拓展結合青年百億海外圓夢基金的計畫 |
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2303.17 |
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另外同時呢 |
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2305.81 |
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2307.81 |
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調整這個甄選的方式 |
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2311.81 |
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以前都是以學校很多精英的學校都視這個為 |
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2319.81 |
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一個可能這個學生取得一個更有競爭力可以升學的一個條件 |
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2323.81 |
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但是我們在選拔過程當中是採取北中南 |
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2325.81 |
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然後先讓一些有志報名 |
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即使是比較農村的比較偏鄉地區的 |
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連高中生也可以報名 |
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2333.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
那我們經過一週的培訓 |
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2335.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
在最後來選拔 |
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2337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
我想這樣才不會有遺珠之憾 |
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2337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2340.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
也不會擴大這個城鄉的差距 |
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2340.81 |
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2342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
那我們也進行更名 |
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2342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
改成外交小尖兵世界領航營 |
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2345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
因為除了英語能力或者是外語能力之外 |
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2349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2352.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
其實國際觀以及他專業能力的培養 |
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2352.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2356.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
還有特別是在青年交流方面其實是很多元的 |
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2356.81 |
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2362.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
那我們也希望能夠促進具有多元不同才能的高中職生 |
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2362.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2368.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
就能夠參與我們的這個國際的這個交流合作的活動 |
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2368.81 |
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2373.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
好那最第四項是農業青年大使新南向交流計畫 |
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2373.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2377.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
那這項計畫是外交部跟農業部在2017年起合辦 |
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2377.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2380.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
農業青年大使新南向交流計畫 |
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2380.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2385.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
那約徵選20位18歲至45歲距離農林雲木專長的青年 |
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2385.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2388.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
赴新南向目標國參訪交流 |
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2388.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2394.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
至今已經參訪交流過菲律賓印尼越南馬來西亞 |
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2394.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2397.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
印度泰國澳洲等七國那我們進一步擴大 |
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2397.81 |
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2400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
因為其實新南向已經進入新的階段 |
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2400.81 |
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2404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
像今年安排是要到荷蘭那荷蘭也是一個農業大國 |
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2408.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
特別是智慧農業方面讓他們能夠增廣見聞 |
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2408.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2411.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
也擴大我們交流的對象 |
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2411.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2415.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那也能夠落實我們在農邦計畫的合作裡面的智慧新農業 |
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2415.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2420.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
包括新人員以及相關的這些主題來加以結合 |
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2420.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
那本年預計甄選16名農業青年大使出訪荷蘭 |
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2425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
那協助農青走向世界 |
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2428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2430.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
他們的表現都相當的優秀 |
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2430.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
都令人驚艷 |
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2431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
很多國家其實都很羨慕 |
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2433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2435.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
那這個也結合我們其他的 |
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2435.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2436.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
包括 |
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2438.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2444.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
就是青年這個百億海外圓夢計畫 |
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2444.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2446.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
雙向的交流來推動 |
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2446.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2449.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
第六個計畫是青年度假打工計畫 |
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2449.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2450.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
這個也很受歡迎 |
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2450.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2457.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
那這個計畫就是在對象上是國內18歲到30歲的青年 |
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2457.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
協助呢當然有些國家他們年紀稍微提高到35歲 |
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2462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2464.08 |
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都可以進行雙向的交流 |
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2464.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2469.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
那我們也把這個協助度假打工的計畫 |
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2469.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2472.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
目前已經擴及到18個國家 |
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2472.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2475.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
都簽有這些度假打工的協定 |
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2475.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2479.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
那包括紐西蘭、澳大利亞、日本、加拿大、德國、韓國、英國 |
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2479.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2481.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
也包括這個 |
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2482.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2484.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
這些度假打工協議 |
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2484.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2489.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
其實是不斷的在深化跟擴大當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2489.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2492.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那這個出國度假打工的青年攀升 |
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2492.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2496.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那為提供個人完整的度假打工資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2496.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2498.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
保障他們的權益跟安全 |
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2498.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2502.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
外交部跟教育部、法務部、交通部、農業部、衛生福利部 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2502.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2507.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
金融監督管理委員會、小五委員會、內政部、移民署和議政司等 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2507.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2511.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我們共同編制了一個青年海外度假打工宣導手冊 |
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2511.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2514.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
提供完整的海外度假打工的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2514.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2518.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
讓青年朋友能夠一側在手遍遊世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2518.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
為自己增添年輕時候的美麗色彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2526.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
第七個是有關於強化國際交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2526.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
這方面當然包括像獎學金制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
像台歐連結的獎學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
還有透過我們跟像美國夏威夷智庫、東西中心等合辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2540.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
各種的這個青年領袖的培育計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2540.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
其中也包括原住民委員會我們合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
邀請這些台灣原住民到夏威夷能夠全程參與相關的培訓工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2556.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
也跟法國這個政府所成立的法國非洲基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2556.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
青年領袖代表團來互訪、交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
這個成果也相當的豐碩 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2564.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
法國政府並把這個計畫結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2564.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2566.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
我們的青年百億圓夢計畫來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2567.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
在去上個月有成果的展現也令人驚豔 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2575.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
第八項是建置台灣青年放眼世界網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2575.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2578.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
及推動全民外交演習營 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2578.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
這個是屬於公眾外交的領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
我們也透過這樣短片跟網站的設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
能夠鼓勵青年加強國際的資訊交流跟互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
還有提供我們青年參與國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2596.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
包括獎助學金、各種的精英領袖演習班 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2596.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2599.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
跟海外度假打工等及時的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2599.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
總是會推動青年交流、擴大多元的視野 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2607.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
外交部跟我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
從2005年起就持續辦理全民外交演習營 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
舉辦青年外交論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2619.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
走遍各地校園跟社會推廣公眾外交的理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2619.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
也增進國人對外交事務的認識和參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
協助青年拓展國際視野 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
並提升跨文化的溝通能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
在最後結語 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2632.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
我們期待青年能夠帶著台灣走向世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2632.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2635.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
也能夠過程中回頭看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2635.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2637.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
更深刻的認識台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2637.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2639.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
看見台灣的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2639.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2641.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
讓世界因為台灣而變得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2641.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2643.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
外交部將在既有的基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2643.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2645.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
持續全力推動相關的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2645.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2647.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
也再次感謝各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2647.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
能夠持續給予指導跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
以上報告,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2656.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2660.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
好,接著我們請僑委會許委員長上台報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2673.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2676.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
僑委,各位委員先進,大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2676.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2679.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
青年是國家的實力與未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2679.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2682.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
也是我們拓展外交新局的重要生力軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2682.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2686.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
今日非常榮幸能夠與外交部共同進行專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2686.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2688.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
請在此向各位委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2688.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2690.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
本會在青年培育政策的相關具體成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2690.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2692.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
請各位委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2693.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2697.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
在面對全球競爭的趨勢之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2697.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2702.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
培養青年世代已經成為國家永續發展及社會創新的重要關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2702.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2704.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
本會配合國家政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2704.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2707.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
以Move to Next Generation為核心理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2707.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2709.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
點燃僑務新動能 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2709.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
並以海外僑青培養為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2714.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
兼顧國內青年培立 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2714.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2718.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
持續的推動多項僑青培育及交流計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2718.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
深化海內外青年的鏈結 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2724.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
並建立跨世代合作的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2724.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
期許新世代能夠成為承先啟後的重要力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
後執僑務發展的動能 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
並持續的拓展國際台灣的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
首先本會自一百年起 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
民國一百年起 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
即在加拿大、美國、澳洲、巴西等國 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2741.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2745.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
舉辦海外青年文化大使協會的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2745.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2750.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
俗稱FASCA |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2750.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2752.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
截至114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2752.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2754.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
總計15年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2754.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2757.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
累計培養了青年文化大使共將近9000人 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2757.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2761.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
成為海外最活躍的青年團體之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2761.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2765.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
今年持續的根序強化相關的培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2765.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2768.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
多增加了南美洲的阿根廷 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2768.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2770.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
以及歐洲的法國地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2770.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
也讓成立分會 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2774.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
建立全球的僑民青年網絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2774.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2777.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
FASCA透過各項動態、靜態的各種活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2777.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2780.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
參與主流的社區、傳統節慶活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2780.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2783.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
並在各種活動的類型當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2783.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2786.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
設置各樣的台灣行銷活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2786.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2788.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
擔任文化導覽大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2788.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2791.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
向各界人士行銷台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2791.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2794.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
在各國的主流社會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2794.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2797.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
支援大型的國際運動賽事或台灣日等活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2797.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2801.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
充分展現台灣多元文化的特色與青年的活力 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2801.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2804.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
吸引了非常多主流社會的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2804.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2807.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
充分顯示海外僑親與政府攜手推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2807.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2809.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
公眾外交的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2810.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2814.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
其次,為了配合國家的雙語政策並增進海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2814.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2816.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
僑親對台灣的認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2817.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2818.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
本會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2818.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2821.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
2006年也就是民國95年起 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2821.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2824.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
與教育部共同辦理海外青年英語福音 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
之後,又再邀請課委會及院委會擴大服務面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
提供海外青年來台服務的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
增進對台灣的認識及文化的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
同時,也協助國內的中小學學生加強英語能力 |
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2842.72 |
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認識不同的國家文化 |
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2842.72 |
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迄今已經辦理進入第21年 |
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2845.72 |
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2846.72 |
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總計 |
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2847.7 |
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2852.7 |
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已經有7793位海外的國際志工來台服務 |
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2852.7 |
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2855.7 |
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在國內已經超過5萬名學童受惠 |
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2855.7 |
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2859.7 |
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受到海內外志工及加強的熱烈支持與肯定 |
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2859.7 |
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2864.7 |
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是台灣與國際海外的青年重要的文化交流與情感連結的活動之一 |
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也是本會在國內外 |
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2867.82 |
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2870.82 |
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青年服務青年的重要績效亮點之一 |
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2871.46 |
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2872.46 |
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今年 |
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2873 |
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2876 |
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英語服務營已在7月31日辦理完成 |
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2876 |
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2879 |
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既有五大州共20個國家 |
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2879 |
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2884 |
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400多名海外青年來擔任我們的英語志工 |
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2884 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2888 |
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到國內共有66所國中小進行服務 |
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2888 |
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2890 |
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服務了3000名學童 |
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2890 |
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2892 |
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有效的促進了青年的交流與認識 |
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2892 |
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2896 |
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並提升我國的學童之國際觀 |
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2896.95 |
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2898.95 |
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第三,本會與教育部 |
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2899.65 |
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2904.65 |
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國教組在107年開始及共同辦理 |
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2904.65 |
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2909.65 |
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念念台灣海外僑民兒童及少年 |
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2909.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2911.65 |
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致效短期體驗計畫 |
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2911.65 |
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2913.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
深受海外僑胞熱烈迴響 |
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2913.65 |
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2916.65 |
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報名人數逐年增加 |
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2916.65 |
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2919.65 |
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只有在疫情期間停辦兩年 |
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2919.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2923.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
截至115學年度已經超過9 |
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2923.65 |
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2926.65 |
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今年度有超過900人報名 |
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2926.65 |
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2931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
至今為止已經2600名學童返台 |
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2931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2938.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
今年的10月將有674名新的國中小學生 |
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2938.65 |
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2941.65 |
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即將進入台灣的公立中小學 |
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2941.65 |
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2944.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
與學生在日常的校園活動當中 |
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2944.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2947.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
有共同學習交流的機會 |
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2947.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2952.65 |
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國內的學生也能夠化身文化大使 |
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2952.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
向海外的學伴介紹台灣的風土人情與校園生活 |
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2957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
從中建立對文化的認同與自信 |
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2960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2963.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
更能培養多元的文化 |
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2965.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
尊重包容國際的這種素養 |
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2968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2971.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
並且提升語言的能力與觀點 |
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2972.34 |
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2975.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
此外,本會自109年起 |
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2975.34 |
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2978.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
也辦理了國際數位學伴計畫 |
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2978.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2984.34 |
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透過線上或實體的方式進行了主題式的教學分享與語言交流 |
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2984.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2987.34 |
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增進雙方的互動,拓展了學生的視野 |
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2987.34 |
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2992.34 |
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這三年來總計已經媒合了國內168所中小學 |
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2992.34 |
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2998.34 |
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與海外168所的主流學校以及喬生、喬校進行了交流 |
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2998.34 |
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3000.34 |
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參與的國家包含有 |
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3000.34 |
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3007.34 |
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澳洲、美國、加拿大、秘魯、巴西、匈牙利、紐西蘭、法國、英國、德國、西班牙、日本 |
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3007.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
3010.71 |
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菲律賓等國家,參與的學生跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
3010.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
3014.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
都建立了非常好的交流管道以及生存的互動 |
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3014.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
3019.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
例如美國的加州、惠景中學與桃園的親浦國小 |
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3019.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
3021.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
及簽訂了備忘錄 |
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3021.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
3026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
密西根州底特律的耶穌會高中與嘉義女中 |
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3026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
3028.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
也建立了實體的互訪 |
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3028.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
3032.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
這是我曾經去拜會過的一個非常高檔的學校 |
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3032.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
3037.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
同時愛迪森中學也跟我們的高雄言行國中地鐵姐妹校 |
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3037.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
3041.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
等等都是透過數位交流到實體互訪 |
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3041.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
3045.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
能夠提升我們的青年學子之國際素養與全球競爭力 |
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3047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
3048.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
本會為福音 |
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3049.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
3054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
政府的青年政策增進台灣年輕人對政府僑務政策的認知與 |
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3054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
3056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
拓展國際的視野 |
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3056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
3060.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
自106年起推動了海外搭橋計畫 |
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3060.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
3064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
選送國內外的大專院校優秀學生與暑假期間 |
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3064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
3067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
前往海外各國參訪見習 |
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3067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
3070.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
總計至今已經累計了830名的青年 |
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3070.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
3073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
透過我們的台灣青年視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
3073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
3077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
向全球各界行銷台灣 |
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3077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
3080.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
是最佳的僑務青年大使 |
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3080.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
3084.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
今年共爭選了82位 |
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3084.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
分別從7月到8月之間前往美國 |
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3087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
3092.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
芝加哥、澳洲、墨爾本、法國、巴黎、日本、東京、韓國 |
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3092.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
3098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
索爾、越南、胡志明市及馬來西亞、吉隆坡等7個國家地區 |
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3098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
3100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
進行參訪跟見習 |
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3100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
3106.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
行程的內容除拜會我們駐外館處、僑團、僑校、僑台商之外 |
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3106.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
3111.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
當然也針對當地的政經情勢或是學術單位、文化機構 |
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3111.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
3114.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
都安排了相關的參訪 |
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3114.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
3120.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
以及與他們做交流充分的行銷了台灣與建立這個橋樑 |
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3120.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
3124.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
為了讓我們搭橋計畫的學員能夠持續的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
3124.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
3128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
本會於113年開始 |
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3128.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
3133.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
更進一步將歷屆的搭橋青年籌組成搭橋青年會 |
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3133.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
3135.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
讓他們定期辦理橋聚時光 |
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3135.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
3137.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
加強彼此之間的連結 |
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3137.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
3144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
由於我們搭橋計畫深受台灣大專院校學生的喜愛跟肯定 |
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3144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
3146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
因此我們從過去只有50幾位 |
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3146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
3149.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
逐步的提升到82位 |
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3149.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
那這過程當中也承蒙我們大院各位委員大力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
那麼至今的辦理的成效都非常良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3157.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3159.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
那這些年輕的優秀學子 |
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3159.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
也真的是幫台灣在國際社會做非常好的公眾外交 |
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3164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3168.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
第五,為增進台灣青年學生對橋物的認識 |
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3168.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
3171.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
培養國內學生多元文化與國際素養 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
3171.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
3177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
從113年起我們又針對高中職學生辦理橋物探索營 |
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3177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
3181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
三天的研習、交流、座談、參訪跟分組討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
3181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
3183.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
帶領了我們大學的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
3183.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
3185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
高中生關心橋物及國際事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
3185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
3188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
培養服務的熱忱、定期參與公共事務 |
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3188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
3195.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
藉此來提升國內的民眾對於政府外交事務的了解 |
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3195.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
3198.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
至今已經培養了192名高中生 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
3198.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
3203.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
那麼今年度我們已於8月4號至6號舉辦完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
3203.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
3206.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
共有63位國內的高中職學生 |
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3206.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
3209.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
分佈在22個縣市 |
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3209.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
3212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
各個高中職的學生都有參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
3212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
3215.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
以上第六點要跟各位委員報告 |
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3215.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
3222.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
有鑒於114年賴清德總統宣布啟動青年百億海外圓夢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
3222.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
3226.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
希望以國家的力量協助青年拓展國際交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
3226.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
3230.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
引領學生多元創意行動培養多元的產業人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
3230.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
3233.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
後持我國在國際的競爭力 |
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3233.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
3238.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
本會與外交部、教育部等相關部會 |
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3239.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
3240.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
共同合作 |
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3240.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3245.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那麼多年來這兩年來已經與海外各個僑團組織合作 |
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3245.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3252.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
從國際參與到醫療公衛、文化藝術或華語文教學等面向提供了各種的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3252.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3259.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
至今選送26人赴海外進行為期兩週至六個月的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3259.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3261.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
間隙的一個計畫 |
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3261.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
讓青年能夠透過國際的參與更增加專業的職能 |
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3266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3270.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
本年度已經選送15人赴美加地區間隙 |
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3270.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3276.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
未來將持續在此平台上繼續拓展我國的親世代人才之培養 |
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3277.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
親世代的青年是國家實力的延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
更是提升國家競爭力、促進國際合作最重要的橋樑 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
本會會在既有的基礎上持續的強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
也敬請各位大院委員不吝指教與支持 |
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3290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3292.8 |
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感謝大家,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3296.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3300.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
現在我們補充介紹王奕川,王委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3301.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3303.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
以及陳俊宇,陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3304.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3310.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
我們現在請問在場委員對於上次會議議事錄有無遺漏或錯誤需要更正之處 |
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3310.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3312.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
沒有我們議事錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
我們現在開始詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
3318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
本會委員6加2分鐘,非本會委員5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3324.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
10點30分截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3324.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3329.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
如有臨時提案,請於10點30分之前提出11點左右處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3329.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3332.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
現在請陳俊宇委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3340.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3343.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
好,謝謝,我們有請嘉隆部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3343.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3344.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3348.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3349.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
部長,早 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3354.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
部長,針對我們今天的專報主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3354.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
我想培育青年人才對於外交部來說是特別重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3364.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
包括部長在報告當中提到,我們要落實人人都是外交官的這個理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3364.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
我們也有很多跨部會跨國之間的合作計畫在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
我們在之前也討論過,我們有服役的外交替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3376.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
替代的藝男以及國會的海外服務團等志工等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
那都是在推動總和外交非常重要的一個人才庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3385.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3389.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
不過我們也注意到在近期的青年交流和培育的工作上 |
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3389.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3391.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
外交部似乎有新的做法 |
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3391.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3394.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
例如在報告當中有提到,在今年5月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3394.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
由外交部輔導所成立的台灣國際青年大使協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3404.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
它是來自不同專業不同背景的青年共同組成 |
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3404.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
也象徵我們青年大使的外交工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
更加制度化,也跨領域專業化的階段 |
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3412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
不過在報告當中我們只提到要打造台灣青年公共外交的 |
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3419.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3422.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
還有國際參與的一個重要平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3422.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3424.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
那這部分我想請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3424.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3429.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
我們台灣國際青年大使協會的這個定位是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3429.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3435.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
那未來協會我們如何配合外交部的相關政策以及專案的經費補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3435.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3441.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
我們要如何能夠進行更實質也更具有效益的一個青年外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3441.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3444.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
那具體上我們採取的形式有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3444.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3446.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
好,報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3446.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3453.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
因為累積了20多年,有將近2000位這些參加過國際青年大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3453.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3459.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
跟我們的這個外交小兼兵等,包括農業這個大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3459.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3462.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
其實他們在各個領域表現 |
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3462.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3466.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
他們都其實可能因為影響了他們 |
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3466.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3468.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
他們後來有很多其實對推動跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3468.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3470.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
其實外交是也是很相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3470.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3473.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
我們希望能夠用學長姐來帶學弟妹 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3473.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3479.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
就像我們現在也把留台的獎學金的各國的畢業生 |
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3479.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3481.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
也是把他們群組化 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3481.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3483.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
這樣子他這個傳承跟創新 |
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3483.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3488.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
我們就不用都政府要去就是說只要一次性活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3488.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3491.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
事實上他參加過之後他可以再回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3491.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3495.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
那我是覺得讓這個人才庫可以更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3495.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3498.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
那青年也是吸引青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3498.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3500.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
他們是相當多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3500.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3502.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
我們可以很多次可以向他們學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3502.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3504.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
他們有很多的創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3504.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
另外你提到外交替代役確實是一個很大的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3515.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
因為我們過去包括國會具統計有三分之一是來自於這些外交替代役 |
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3515.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3518.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
那這些完之後他們就投入到外交工作 |
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3518.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3522.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
可是因為現在兵役從四個月又恢復到一年 |
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3522.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3527.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
所以這整個制度因為過去是他這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3529.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
就是四個月他可以再簽加六個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
那在海外服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3538.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
現在就他本來服役就是一年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3538.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3540.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
所以這個制度我們希望維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3540.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3544.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
說一方面跟國防部還有包括內政部議政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3544.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
那同時也跟教育部都在協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3550.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
我們希望能夠不只不要停止還擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3550.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3552.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
讓年輕人可以透過服役期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3552.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3554.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
其實像剛剛講那個無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3554.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3558.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
如果有很多專家派到我們的這些友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3558.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3562.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
去訓練他們其實對雙方面都是很有幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3562.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那這一點我們也敬請這個大院可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3567.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3567.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
那另外在報告當中也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3569.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
外交部的這個國際青年大使交流計畫已經行之有年 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3578.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
那在今年擴大辦理包括這個國際青年大使還有校園大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3578.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3582.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
尤其國會的這個校園大使計畫應該是第一次辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3582.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3586.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
那也準備要帶著他們各自的這個專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3586.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3588.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
能夠出訪友邦來進行交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3588.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3591.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
那這部分我還是就叫我們部長就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3591.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3594.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
青年大使和校園大使他們各自的任務是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3594.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3598.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
那實際上在訓練和出訪的安排上有什麼的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3598.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3601.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
那如何能夠達到我們預期的一個成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3601.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
這部分是不是部長也簡要說明一下 |
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3603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3608.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
好 報告委員其實這個青年人才要變成一個外交的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3608.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3610.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
他是需要經過一個培養的過程 |
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3610.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3615.08 |
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可是過去我們是好像透過可能一次的面試或徵選 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3615.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3619.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
然後就決定其實有時候會有成相差距也會有貧富的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3619.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
我們現在是透過學訓用 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3624.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
透過這樣的一個過程先有志於報名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3624.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3629.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
我們就開一個比如說一個營隊或是一個訓練的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3629.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3631.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
然後他經過參與之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3631.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3634.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
他們有一些比如說比較偏向個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3634.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3639.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
他們有學校可能那麼樣的精英或是聲學 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3639.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
聲學這個這麼做中心的這些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3643.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3645.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
他也有機會來報名 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3645.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3647.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
經過一個培訓之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3647.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
他可能就被看見他的一個條件是符合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3653.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
所以我們這樣多元的取材 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3655.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3659.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
那事實上從去年開辦以來這樣的效果是非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3659.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
好 那接續我想請教部長就是有關印太第一島鏈的安全合作的相關議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3666.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3674.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
那日本防衛省在這個月初公布2026年防衛白皮書主要延續先前的這個評估定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3674.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
中國是日本前所未有最大的一個戰略挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3678.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
那並在內容當中明確指出中國單方面改變現狀企圖的還有它相關的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3686.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3689.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
從第一島鏈向第二島鏈來延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3689.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3693.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
那也持續關切在台灣周邊的這個軍事活動和演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3693.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3700.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
更提到中國揮帶行動可能藉由海警執法封鎖台灣等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3700.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3704.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
那後續中國外交部也指稱日方 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3704.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3708.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
在抹黑和炒作並提出嚴正的交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3708.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3711.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
那在這個防衛白皮書公布之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3711.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3720.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
有外媒特別指出今年社台的文字上保留了台海情勢穩定對國際社會穩定很重要的論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3720.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3724.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
但相較於去年似乎有些許的這個微調 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3724.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3726.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
那也值得我們進一步討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3726.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3735.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
在這一份的這個白皮書對於這個區域安全還有中日關係延伸到台海情勢所傳達的一個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3735.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3738.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
以及後續可能造成什麼樣的一個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3738.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3741.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
部長就這個部分你怎麼評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3741.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3746.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
報告委員中國的軍事擴張是全面性 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3746.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3751.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
他過去好像是兩岸之間台海的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3751.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3755.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
可是現在已經擴充到東海南海甚至整個太平洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3755.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3760.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
所以中國的威權軍事的擴張造成的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3760.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3765.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
不只是兩岸之間甚至是區域到全球性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3765.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3767.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
這個各國都要去回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3767.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3773.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
也就簡單來講中共其實是以軍事行動在改變跟就迫害現狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3773.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3775.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
那我們要維護嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3775.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
那台灣現在其實在整個大的戰略上就是跟這些理念相近 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3782.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
國家在印太地區在第一島鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3782.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3787.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
大家至少要溝通協調來合作來維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3787.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3791.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
包括台海跟印太地區的和平跟穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3791.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3793.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
所以中共是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3795.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3799.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
破壞現狀的軍事擴張者這是現實嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3799.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3804.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
中共又要批評別人把這個事實講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3804.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3806.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
難道要被他各個擊破 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3806.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
然後造成他所謂的新常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3813.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
這個也就是說這個已經是對台灣所做的現在對 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3813.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3818.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
包括日本菲律賓甚至澳洲紐西蘭甚至到太平洋所有的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3818.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3824.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
他一樣都在台灣練好的功夫就到全世界去打架 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3824.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3827.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
所以我們不能夠各個擊破 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3827.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3830.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
我們一定是大家當然要一起來因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3830.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3837.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
尤其是理念相近國家這些共同的能夠去捍衛這個現狀不被破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3837.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
好那謝謝我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3845.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
那這部位還是請我們外交部能夠及時掌握相關的一個情資 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3845.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3851.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
並且跟友盟國家能夠進一步強化在安全上的一個相關合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3851.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3852.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
來確保我們國家的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3852.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3856.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
我們會透過總和外交三鏈戰略還有農邦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3856.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3859.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
打區域聯防這樣台灣才不會孤單 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3859.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
事實上我們透過這樣的一個總和外交的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
是有效的去強化了台灣的整個綜合國力能夠在外交上的呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3873.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3877.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3878.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3883.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
接下來請王毅川委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3890.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
好謝謝主席我們請外交部林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3894.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3902.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3903.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3903.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3908.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
部長好你們今天的報告洋洋灑灑寫了很多外交部做青年的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3908.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3909.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3909.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3913.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
這裡面有一個網站叫做台灣青年放眼世界網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3916.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3916.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3918.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
部長你看這個網站的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3919.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3922.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
你覺得你今天報告的內容有沒有全部都在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3924.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
應該是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3926.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
應該是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3926.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
如果有一個台灣的青年大學生或者是已經開始工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3938.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
他想要參與外交部的青年工作去參加徵選各項的什麼計畫的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3938.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3944.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
有沒有一個網站他在那裡可以全部看到你今天報告的這些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
當然我們外交部的網站也可以搜尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
也不只限於青年放眼短片的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
不過這個網站的經營應該更積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3960.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
能夠去結合我們外交部各單位在做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3960.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3962.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
再多個連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3962.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3966.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
因為你們這個網站連百億青年圓夢計畫都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3968.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
這個計畫沒有在裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
有一個選送青年學子賦INGO |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3974.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
這個也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3975 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3977 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
謝謝你的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3977 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3980 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
然後有一個青年外交論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3980 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3981 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
這個也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3981 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3987 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
所以我是建議我了解你們應該在不同的部門之間做的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3987 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3993 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
既然要讓青年能夠比較容易就多一個連結把它連過去就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3993 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3994 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
第一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3994 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3995 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
好我們來改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3995 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3996 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3996.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3998.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
你覺得這些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3998.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
4001.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
因為這裡頭提到幾百人幾千人歷年來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
4001.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
4003.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
你覺得這些人有沒有重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
4005.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
4007.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
4006.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
4008.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
重複但是可能不多 |
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4008.56 |
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4013.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
倒是我認為我們怎麼號召年輕人投入外交 |
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4013.56 |
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4015.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
需要有一個媒介 |
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4015.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
4019.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
這些其實也很多人因此來報考 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
4020.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
4021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
這個外交特考 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
4021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
4022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
4022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
4025.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
這個是相當有趣就是說我們越多這樣的平台或活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
4025.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
4029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
那其實如果年輕人對外交有興趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
4029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
4032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
優秀的人才投入外交我們台灣一定有希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
4032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
4034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
但是成績合十 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
4034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
4038.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
以前在考外交官是相當就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
4038.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
4040.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
因為很多人的志業 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
4040.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
4043.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
可是現在吸引力其他的職業也很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
4043.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
4045.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
所以我們要跟人家競爭人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
4045.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
4046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
要更聽 |
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4046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
4048.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
人人都是外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
4048.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
4050.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
不一定要去外交部上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
4050.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
4052.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我們最好來考外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
4052.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
4056.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
當職業外交官我們還是需要專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
4056.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
4060.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
這個包括百億青年圓夢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
4060.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
4064.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
我在網站上看到有一個青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
4064.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
4066.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
他說他是第二次得獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
4068.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
4070.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
然後他說我可以教大家怎麼申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
4072.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
4074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
那因為我一個朋友的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
4074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
4076.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
就去申請這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
4076.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
4078.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
他覺得那是無知天書 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
4078.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
4080.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
就是說表格 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
4080.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
4082.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
就叫他去填一些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
4082.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
4084.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
然後他就問我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
4084.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
4087.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
有人在教怎麼寫這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
4087.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
4090.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
我心裡想說這該不會是公關公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
4090.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
4092.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
該不會是留學顧問公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
4092.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
4094.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我是沒有去探究 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
4094.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
4096.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
4096.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
4098.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
如果有一個民眾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
4098.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
4101.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
這樣外交部就過去通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
4101.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
4103.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
去掉個資以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
4103.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
4105.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
把這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
4104.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
4106.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
放一些範本 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
4106.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
4108.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
讓大家看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
4108.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
4110.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
不然有時候要寫人 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
4110.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
4112.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
他有些有表格化 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
4112.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
4114.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
可是有些他要自己寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
4114.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
4116.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
他會覺得這樣比較不好用 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
4116.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
4118.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
這可不可以考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
4118.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
4120.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
報告委員其實教育部有在教人 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
4120.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
4122.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
你一早來報名 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
4122.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
4124.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
你什麼都不知道表格 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
4124.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
4126.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
他也會引導你把這個準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
4126.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
4128.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
現在這個服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
4127.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
4129.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
教育部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
4129.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
4131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
怎麼會召開教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
4131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
4133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
這個案子是教育部主辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
4133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
4135.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
我們只是部會之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
4135.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
4137.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
他們有專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
4137.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
4139.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
業師幫忙輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
4139.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
4141.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
你寫這個申請書 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
4141.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
4143.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
這不是外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
4143.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
4145.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
這教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
4145.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
4147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
我們是協判 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
4148.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
4150.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
我們辦得特別出色 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
4153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
4155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
接下來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
4155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
4157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
有一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
4157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
4159.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
因為我最近看到台中的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
4159.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
4161.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
應該是明道 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
4161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
4163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
明道中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
4173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
4175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
說實在啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
4175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
4177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
沒有補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
4177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
4179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
我們是希望教育部給他們肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
4179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
4181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
因為他是在台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
4181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
4183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
我當市長明道中學是在烏日 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
4183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
4185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
他們真的很積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
4185.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
4187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
跟他們交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
4187.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
4189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
互派學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
4189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
4191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
他們總統會數人來去看他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
4191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
4193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
各種包括計時交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
4193.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
4195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
高職也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
4195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
4197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
包括做巧克力 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
4197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
4199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
還有各種的才藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
4199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
4201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
當然語言是必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
4201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
4203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
所以兩邊的年輕人產生很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
4203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
4205.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
激勵的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
4206.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
4208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
有沒有可能外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
4208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
4210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
教育部特輪節 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
4210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
4212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我們要不要我們有一些高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
4212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
4214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
去對我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
4214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
4216.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
4215.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
4217.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
就是說以後如果要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
4217.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
4219.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
帛琉的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
4219.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
4221.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
都去問明道中學就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
4222.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
4224.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
反正明道中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
4224.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
4226.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
包括國際教育就針對帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
4226.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
4228.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
所以可能整間校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
4228.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
4230.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
像這兩百個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
4230.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
4232.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
都知道帛琉這個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
4232.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
4234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
然後帛琉的總統來 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
4234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
4236.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
帛琉的什麼官員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
4236.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
4238.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
都明道中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
4238.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
4240.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
去接 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
4240.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
4242.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
就是說這也許是一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
4242.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
4244.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
因為我們的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
4244.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
4246.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
現在很多學校也有國際班 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
4246.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
4248.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
國際班不一定都要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
4248.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
4250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
畢國一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
4250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
4252.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
如果是邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
4252.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
4254.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
對我們的外交是不是也有很好的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
4254.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
4256.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
不過委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
4256.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
4258.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
這個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
4258.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
4260.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
我們促成學校之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
4260.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
4262.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
的姐妹校或各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
4262.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
4264.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
的互換學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
4264.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
4266.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
甚至有些學生互相承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
4266.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
4268.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
並聯誌 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
4268.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
4270.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
這個其實就是把它打通 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
4270.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
4272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
連結之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
4272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
4274.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
它就一直在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
4274.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
4276.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
這個是我想學校或NGO |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
4276.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
4278.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
很好的效果 |
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4278.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
4280.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
我不知道你為什麼特別提帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
4280.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
4282.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
聽說您是被惠素人總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
4282.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
4284.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
有邀請做為榮譽觀光部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
4284.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
4286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
所以似乎這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
4286.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
4288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
對帛琉相當了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
4288.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
4290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
我們可以用帛琉來做示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
4290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
4292.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
太平也有三個島國 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
4292.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
4294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
也拜託你 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
4294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
4296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
也能夠照顧一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
4296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
4298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
馬薩爾群島跟土阿魯 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
4298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
4300.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
你要講帛琉我就跟你講帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
4300.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
4302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
帛琉需要我們很多協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
4303.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
4305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
那可不可以這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
4305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
4307.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
我們現在有一些研究生 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
4307.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
4309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
4309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
4311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
外交部幫他們補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
4311.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
4313.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
比如說他去那裡做研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
4313.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
4315.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
外交替代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
4315.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
4317.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
研究生叫外交替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
4317.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
4319.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
都會去那裡做兩年的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
4320.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
4322.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
也許他們有土木工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
4322.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
4324.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
因為他們現在要吃的建設愛者 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
4324.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
4326.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
土木工程的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
4326.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
4328.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
帶著土木工程的研究生 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
4328.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
4330.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
就去那裡實地做研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
4330.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
4332.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
那裡也有很多海洋可以研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
4332.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
4334.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
海洋相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
4334.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
4336.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
如果說有這個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
4336.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
4338.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
一個教授裡面有研究生 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
4338.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
4340.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
就去那裡一兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
4340.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
4342.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
然後回來就論文也做完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
4342.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
4344.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
外交替代也服完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
4344.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
4346.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
那我們也協助他們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
4346.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
4348.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
做完他們的建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
4348.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
4350.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
也協助他們在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
4350.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
4352.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
他們在地高中職的畢業生 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
4352.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
4354.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
也協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
4354.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
4356.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
有基本的工程的概念之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
4356.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
4358.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
這是不是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
4358.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
4360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
更好的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
4360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
4362.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
確實委員的高見 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
4362.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
4364.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我們一定要加以推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
4364.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
4366.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
因為台灣事實上跟海洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
4366.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
4368.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
有這種大學或院 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
4368.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
4370.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
或系的有六個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
4370.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
4372.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
台灣的海洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
4372.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
4374.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我們有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
4374.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
4376.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
博留在第二島鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
4376.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
4378.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
它那個地理 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
4378.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
4380.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
是非常特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
4380.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
4382.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
透過這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
4382.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
4384.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
跟大學合作包括研究所 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
4384.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
4386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
然後我們來促成 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
4386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
4388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
因為它那邊有社區大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
4388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
4390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
來建立這樣的一個合作計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
4390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
4392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
我們來全力的鼓勵跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
4392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
4394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
因為我們有技術團 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
4394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
4396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
然後現在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
4396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
4398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
可以把整個博留的海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
4398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
4400.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
非常的廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
4400.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
4402.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
我們可以能就就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
4402.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
4404.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
作為我們的不管教學研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
4404.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
4406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
或未來在合作上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
4406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
4408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
海洋的課題是相當豐富的 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
4408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
4410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
因為有時候我們去協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
4410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
4412.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
我們的友邦有時候是經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
4412.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
4414.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
有些是幫他們做一些工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
4414.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
4416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
或者一些物資協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
4416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
4418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
之後啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
4418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
4420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
畢竟他們後面要接的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
4420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
4422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
不夠他們能夠到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
4422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
4424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
讀書的學生又都很有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
4424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
4426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
那與其如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
4426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
4428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
那我們讓他們在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
4428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
4430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
就能夠把這個人才也順便 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
4430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
4432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
幫他們培養起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
4432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
4434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
對兩邊的合作會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
4434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
4436.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
這個再請 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
4436.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
4438.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
我們放作龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
4438.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
4440.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
人才科技資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
4440.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
4442.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
這方面的交流合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
4442.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
4444.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
人才是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
4444.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
4446.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
所以剛剛從小到 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
4446.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
4448.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
這個中小學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
4448.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
4450.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
然後可以到大學研究生 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
4450.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
4452.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
全面性的跟他對接 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
4452.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
4454.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
因為其實太平洋這些國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
4454.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
4456.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
都是英語系國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
4456.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
4458.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
英語也很標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
4458.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
4460.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
那我們如果去其實至少對語言能力來提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
4460.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
4462.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
那在專業上又跟海洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
4462.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
4464.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
或是他們比如他們關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
4464.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
4466.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
氣候變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
4466.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
4468.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
還有這些有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
4468.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
4470.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
災害防救 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
4470.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
4472.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
4472.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
4474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
其實很多的課題對台灣來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
4474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
4476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
對我們也是一個很寶貴的資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
4476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
4478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
最近有去太平洋投國論壇嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
4478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
4480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我們有在安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
4480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
4482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
部次長以上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
4482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
4484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
因為是試射 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
4484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
4486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
比較就是外交上面的各種安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
4486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
4488.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
我就不容在 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
4488.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
4490.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
就容我不在這裡講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
4490.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
4492.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
4497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
4499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
接下來請陳永康委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
4510.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
4512.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
主席有請外交部林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
4512.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
4514.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
4521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4523.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4523.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4525.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
剛才在前個委員提 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4525.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4527.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
因為聽到了海洋 |
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4526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4528.92 |
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我提出一個補充建議 |
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4528.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
就是說雖然我們在南島 |
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4530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
的這有半國家海域涵蓋大 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4534.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
但是他們的 |
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4534.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4536.92 |
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對海洋的研究啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
4536.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
的水準是不夠深度 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
4538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
因為他沒有海研所 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
4540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
沒有這個大學研究所的水準 |
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4542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4544.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
第二個他們也海洋船 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
所以我建議我們國家 |
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4547.87 |
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4549.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
不管是基隆海洋大學 |
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4551.87 |
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台大海研所 |
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4551.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
還有中山大學成大 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
4553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4555.87 |
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在高雄的海洋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4555.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4557.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
他們都有專業的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4557.87 |
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4559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
所以將來有些課目啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
在這個部分可以強化一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
我是覺得我們國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4565.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
海洋的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4565.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
在亞洲國家來講我們的水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4567.87 |
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4569.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
算是先進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4569.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
尤其是生醫學海底底汁 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
海洋生物 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4575.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
未來的海洋的礦業 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4575.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4577.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
我們國內有一部分的水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4577.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
是超越的建議南島國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
4579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4581.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
這些人我們可以吸引他到 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
4581.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
4583.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
我們國家來真正在那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
4583.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
4585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
國家你想做深入的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
4585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
可能是做觀光啊海洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4589.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
的這個消遣啊娛樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4589.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
那個是另外一個市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4593.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
但是對海洋開發我覺得我們吸引 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4593.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4595.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
他的人才到國內來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4595.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
這個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4599.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
下一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4599.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4601.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
比較嚴肅一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
4601.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
因為我們目前還沒有國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
總統是國安法17條 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4607.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
但是我們現在看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4607.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
國家安全戰略是去年11月 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
美國公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
提臺灣提了八次 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
所以臺灣很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
但是因為我們這麼多年來並沒有發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
我們的國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
所以跨部會在國內的協商啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
就比較困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
這個事實上所有的外交事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
直接第一線是在我們外館的 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4631.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
大使跟代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4631.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
國內的協商過程就承認你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4635.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
有一部分是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4635.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4637.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
有一部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4637.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4639.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
比方講僑委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4639.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4641.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
甚至還有其他的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4641.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4643.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
但是呢他並不是一個平行單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4643.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4645.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
所以在這個結構上 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4645.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
您看有結構性的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4649.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
執行中有空窗我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4649.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4651.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
有檢討經濟這個是提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4651.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4653.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
參考並不是說誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4653.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
不夠努力因為我們是結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
性的問題那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4659.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
沒有國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4659.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4661.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
在跨部會的協商向美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4661.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4663.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
尤其是對中國大陸的研究啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
他的這個國務院 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4666.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
state department word department |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4668.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4670.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
還有像美國的國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4670.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4672.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
有特別研究小組另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4672.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4674.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
CIA他們的情資資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4674.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4676.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
是可以交換的因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4676.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4678.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
沒有這個結構性所以剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4678.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4680.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
有一部分的資訊參考啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4680.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4682.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
就比較難像 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4682.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4684.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
我們駐外的使館那底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4684.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4686.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
有各部會的代表他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4686.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4688.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
可能接受國內的指示在 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4688.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4690.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
那邊進行某些工作的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4690.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4692.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
但是未必每一個都feedback |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4692.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4694.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
像我們的大使跟主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4694.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4696.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
報告可能你聽到的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4696.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
一定是外面feedback回來的消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4698.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4700.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
那我覺得這個對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4700.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4702.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
駐外大使跟這個代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4702.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4704.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
他的壓力很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4704.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4706.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
那在國內如果有一個平行 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4706.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4708.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
機構協商在確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4708.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4710.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
有一個政策要推動透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4710.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4712.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
不同的駐外的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4712.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4714.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
各組處啊要做的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4714.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4716.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
應先向大使做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4718.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4720.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
下面這個圖就是提到外交跟僑務 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4722.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4724.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
這個是不是請僑委會也一起看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4726.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4728.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4730.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
這個圖啊只是建言 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4730.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
你看一下啊我們工作的習性 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
任務中間有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
灰色區塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4736.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4738.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
因為我們在外的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4738.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4740.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
並不是平行對等的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4740.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4742.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
那尤其是這個僑委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4742.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
現在強調的是年輕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4746.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
二代三代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4746.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
那麼當然中間還有一些老僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4748.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
那提醒注意的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4750.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
當老僑跟年輕僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4754.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
這個借接的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4754.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4756.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
他心中的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4756.64 |
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有時候度量的尺寸啊不是標準 |
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4758.64 |
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有時候會這樣子 |
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4762.64 |
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有時候會這樣 |
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4762.64 |
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4764.64 |
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所以那這個部分東西 |
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4764.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
要讓我們的外館了解到 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
不然有時候送回來的訊息是過度樂觀 |
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4768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4770.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
可是到時候呢不能達到這個標的 |
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4770.64 |
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4772.64 |
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那這邊呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4772.64 |
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4774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
我是做一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4776.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
您再看最後一頁啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4776.64 |
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4778.64 |
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就是外交部跟僑委會 |
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4778.74 |
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4780.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們陪同這個培育青年的國際觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4780.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4782.74 |
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我們當然有 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4782.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4784.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
這個困境也有挑戰 |
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4785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
那這裡面幾個方向 |
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4787.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4789.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
是不是請僑委會您就補充做一下說明 |
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4791.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
謝謝陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4793.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4795.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
給我們做這麼好的一個整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4795.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4797.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
讓我們可以比較清楚的 |
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4797.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4799.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
知道我們在分工上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4799.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
怎麼樣做借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4801.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4803.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
然後怎麼樣不要讓我們的彼此能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4803.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4805.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
做一些重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4807.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
的這個資源 |
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4807.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
那有關於您的這個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4809.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4811.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
我是非常認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4811.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4813.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
我們也會在未來的相關規劃裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4813.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4815.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
把它納入來進行相關的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4815.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4817.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
那尤其是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4817.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4819.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
利用台灣的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4819.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
那這部分的吸引到 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
包括北美洲中南美洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
歐洲亞洲各地的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4827.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
年輕人能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4827.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4829.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
回到台灣來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4829.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4831.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
我想這個是我們現在另外一個很大的重點目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4831.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
林部長在這部分是不是做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4837.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
如何協助僑委會在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4837.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
那你本身的外交工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
是正式的官方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
僑委會的並不算是官方的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
可是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
接觸的面可能更廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
強化在惡鬼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
那怎麼樣能夠跟我們駐外使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4853.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4855.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
甚至代表做一個橫向協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4855.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4857.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
能夠整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4857.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4859.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
這個成果在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4859.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4861.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
是納入外交部的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4861.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4863.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
那回應到國內是 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4863.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4865.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
僑委會發揮的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4865.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
這是不是您做一點補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4867.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4869.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
報告委員其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4869.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
我也是在因應這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4871.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
把總和外交不只是政策方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4873.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4875.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
他是一個組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4875.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4877.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
工人這個一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4877.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4879.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4879.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4881.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
就縱跟橫的整個協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4881.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4883.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
那在外館我們是當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4883.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
以前是比較是跟各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4885.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4887.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4887.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
那我們現在橫向我們的落實館長制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4889.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4891.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
那在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4891.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
這個我們台灣的政府方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4893.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
那因為總統他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4895.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
他主導國家安全大政方針 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4897.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
還有國安會那是屬於比較戰略規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4899.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
或危機處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4901.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
或一些那但是事實上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
業務是在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4905.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
所以我們就成立了一個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4907.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4909.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
經濟外交工作小組比如說十個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4909.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
那同樣其他的我們落實通報制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4911.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
所以現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4913.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4915.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
在至少在這個資訊上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4915.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4917.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
橫向的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4917.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4919.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
是有改善那至於在組織上運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4919.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4921.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
在外館要應地質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4921.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
有些邦交國有些非邦交有些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4923.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
有台商多有些可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4925.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
其他的新橋老橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4927.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
都有的所以是很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4929.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
複雜的情勢但是我們最近的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4931.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4933.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
是大有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4933.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4935.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
也就是我們自己做team of teams |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4935.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4937.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
一個協作聯隊的方式在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4937.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4939.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
透過不變跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4939.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4941.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
組織法或其他的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4941.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4943.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4945.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
這個結構我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4945.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4947.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
功能面有做了一些調整所以委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4947.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4949.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
提到這個因為現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4949.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4951.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
外交的事物跟以前又不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4951.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4953.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
資訊很發達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4953.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4955.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
我們國人也是各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4955.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4957.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4957.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4959.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
產生了非常多我們政務跟僑務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4959.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4961.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
的劃分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4961.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4963.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
以及從這些部分怎麼去協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4963.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4965.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
我們因為我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4965.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
徐委員長我們是很熟的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
有時候橫向我們兩個的聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
都已經可以很順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
那當然有注意下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
跨部會的一個分工合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4976.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4978.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
謝謝部長各位委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4978.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4980.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
大家共同努力謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4980.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4982.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
謝謝陳委員 |
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4984.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4988.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
謝謝接下來請黃建斌委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4997.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4999.98 |
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好謝謝主席我們有請林佳龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4999.98 |
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5001.98 |
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林部長 |
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5009.09 |
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5011.09 |
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回合 |
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5010.25 |
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5012.25 |
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部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
5012.25 |
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5014.25 |
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部長先跟你說一聲辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
5014.25 |
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5016.25 |
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部長最近 |
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5016.25 |
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5018.25 |
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很忙 |
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5020.25 |
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身為外交部長你平常是要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
5020.25 |
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5022.25 |
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國際的情事台美關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
5022.25 |
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5024.25 |
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台日關係然後最近 |
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5024.25 |
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5026.25 |
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部長你有工作又多一個任務 |
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5026.25 |
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5028.25 |
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就是週末要在跑地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
5028.25 |
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5030.25 |
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那幫忙輔選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
5030.25 |
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5032.25 |
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這很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
5032.25 |
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5034.25 |
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但是我要提醒部長外交部長是一個 |
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5034.25 |
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5036.25 |
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國家非常重要的職務 |
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5036.25 |
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5038.25 |
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那不是民進黨的 |
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5038.25 |
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5040.25 |
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部長 |
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5039.02 |
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5041.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
總幹事我希望部長不要讓外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
5041.02 |
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5043.02 |
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產生一種印象就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
5043.02 |
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5045.02 |
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選舉的數位會在外交工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
5045.02 |
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5047.02 |
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之上這部份部長是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
5047.02 |
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5049.02 |
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做得到好我另以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
5049.02 |
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5051.02 |
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外交工作為重謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
5051.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
5053.02 |
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部長現在我要跟部長討論兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
5053.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
5055.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
駐外管處的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
5055.02 |
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5057.02 |
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那第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
5057.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
5059.02 |
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最近新聞在播報這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
5059.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
5061.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
駐日內瓦的辦事處處長李冠德 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
5061.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
5063.02 |
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那目前因為外界對李冠德 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
5063.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
5065.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
有霸凌下屬職場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
5065.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
5067.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
管理私當濫用公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
5067.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
5069.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
甚至涉及超速等等的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
5069.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
5071.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
那我知道這個是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
5071.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
5073.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
個案這個個案的具體事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
5073.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
5075.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
外交部應該要依法調查不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
5075.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
5077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
為省先判但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
5077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
5079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
我要請教部長的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
5079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
5081.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
外交部對駐外管處主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
5081.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
5083.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
平等管理能力以及紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
5083.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
5085.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
的要求到底有沒有一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
5085.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
5087.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
有效的監督機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
5087.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
5089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
因為駐外的處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
5089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
5091.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
代表不只是他個人代表是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
5091.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
5093.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
政府那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
5093.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
5095.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
外交官在國外的一言一行他都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
5095.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
5097.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
可能影響國家的形象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
5097.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
5099.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
如果說一個主管在管內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
5099.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
5101.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
讓部署感受到霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
5101.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
5103.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
濫用公帑甚至還出現交通違規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
5103.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
5105.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
等等的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
5105.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
5107.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
那麼外交部不能就只說說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
5107.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
5109.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
正在調查或是尊重程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
5109.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
5111.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
這樣就來結束喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
5111.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
5113.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
所以本席要問的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
5113.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
5115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
到底這個事件我們調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
5115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
5117.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
查到了什麼有沒有對相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
5117.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
5119.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
人員進行訪談 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
5119.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
5121.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
那有沒有保護可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
5121.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
5123.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
受到不當對待的下屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
5123.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
5125.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
那如果這個查證屬實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
5125.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
5127.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
外交部會不會追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
5127.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
5129.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
行政甚至是刑事的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
5129.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
5131.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
那更重要的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
5131.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
5133.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
我們駐外的管處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
5133.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
5135.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
不是誰的山頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
5135.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
5137.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
也不是哪一個主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
5137.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
5139.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
到國外就無法無天喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
5139.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
5141.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
我希望外交部能夠把這件事情來查清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
5142.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
5144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
那第二個部分部長大家一起回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
5144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
5146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
第二個部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
5146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
5148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
因為你之前一直強調談的關係良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
5148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
5150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
甚至你自己在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
5150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
5152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
只能在睡日本機場的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
5152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
5154.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
你也豁達的表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
5154.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
5156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
你自己覺得沒有很委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
5156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
5158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
那我尊重部長你個人的修養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
5158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
5160.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
你自己睡機場你可以說沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
5160.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
5162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
不委屈這是個人的選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
5162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
5164.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
今天問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
5165.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
5167.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
如果這個不是你自己睡哪裡的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
5167.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
5169.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
而是中華民國代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
5169.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
5171.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
在國際場合受到不合理的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
5171.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
5173.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
這個就不是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
5173.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
5175.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
你覺得不委屈就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
5175.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
5177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
因為像這一次里昂代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
5177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
5179.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
參加長期元報和平紀念典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
5179.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
5181.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
卻被安排在其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
5181.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
5183.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
使節後方的位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
5183.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
5185.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
這個對我們來說就是矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
5185.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
5187.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
那甚至事後日方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
5187.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
5189.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
還強硬的出面來表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
5190.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
5192.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
是我們主動表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
5192.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
5194.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
參加意願後他們才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
5194.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
5196.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
同意讓我們出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
5196.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
5198.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
像這種日方打破外交默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
5198.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
5200.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
出面打臉的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
5200.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
5202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
在過去是非常非常的罕見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
5202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
5204.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
所以我也要請教部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
5204.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
5206.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
你過去跟我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
5206.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
5208.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
台日關係持續友好深化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
5208.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
5210.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
沒有因為卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
5210.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
5212.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
公開去日本東京看球賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
5212.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
5214.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
而遭到日本官員表達不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
5214.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
5216.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
受到這個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
5216.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
5218.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
你睡機場也是因為行程的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
5218.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
5220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
沒有感到委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
5220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
5222.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
那為什麼這次我方的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
5222.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
5224.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
受到這樣子的對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
5224.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
5226.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
卻讓人家看到是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
5226.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
5228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
就是說台日真的如您所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
5228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
5230.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
依然這麼樣的穩固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
5232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
5234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
那麼我們代表出席這麼重要的場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
5234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
5236.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
為什麼會出現這樣子的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
5238.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
5240.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
儘管說外交廠的座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
5240.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
5242.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
他的安排可能涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
5242.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
5244.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
很多的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
5244.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
5246.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
那也不會單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
5246.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
5248.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
我也不會單一用一個座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
5248.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
5250.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
就判斷台日關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
5250.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
5252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
但是本席想要問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
5252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
5254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
當台灣代表明顯被安排在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
5254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
5256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
相對後方的位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
5256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
5258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
外交部有沒有事先掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
5258.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
5260.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
那這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
5260.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
事件我方在表達立場之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
5264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
有沒有持續來交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
5264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
5266.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
那有沒有得到回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
5266.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
5268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
得到的回應又是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
5269.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
5271.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
5271.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
5273.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
部長你自己可以覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
5273.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
5275.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
睡機場沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
5275.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
5277.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
那是因為你個人的感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
5277.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
5279.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
那如果今天中華民國的國隔在國際的場合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
5279.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
5281.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
尊嚴受到矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
5281.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
5283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
這個不是林佳龍個人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
5283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
5285.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
委不委屈的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
5285.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
5287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
所以這個才是本席要提醒部長的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
5287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
5289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
因為外交的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
5289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
5291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
不能告訴人民說這沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
5291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
5293.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
我們不敢委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
5293.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
5295.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
因為外交的責任是當國家代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
5295.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
5297.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
受到不合理對待的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
5297.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
5299.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
就要站出來替國家爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
5299.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
5301.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
他應該有的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
5301.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
5303.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
所以在這邊本席要請部長正面的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
5303.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
5305.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
你口中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
5305.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
5307.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
台日關係依舊穩固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
5307.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
5309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
究竟是建立在實際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
5309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
5311.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
外交待遇上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
5311.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
5313.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
或者只是建立在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
5313.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
5315.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
國人的認知上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
5315.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
5317.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
如果說台日的關係真的很穩固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
5317.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
5319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
那外交部更應該要拿出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
5319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
5321.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
證據讓國人看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
5321.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
5323.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
而不是我們每次遇到爭議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
5323.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
5325.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
反而被審公 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5325.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
5327.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
台日友好沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5327.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
5329.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
或是不委屈不是這樣的話就可以解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
5329.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
5331.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
部長利用這個機會你來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5331.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
5333.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
5334.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
5336.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
不是睡機場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
5336.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
5338.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
是在機場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
5338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
5340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
飯店 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
5340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
5342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
早上五點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
5342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
5344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
包機就到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
5344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
5346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
5346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
5348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
是純粹是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
5348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
5350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
行程的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
5350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
5352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
我是再次說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
5352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
5354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
我不是像電影院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
5354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
5356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
有些人就是在機場裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
5356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
5358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
是機場的旅館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
5358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
5360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
我們台灣也有其實也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
真的很舒適 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
至於說這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
5364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
5366.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
有關於所謂日本核爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
5366.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
5368.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
這個紀念的這個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
5368.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
5370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
5370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
5372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
我是跟日方都有溝通的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
5372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
5374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
管道也暢通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
5374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
5376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
我們也有分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
5376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
5378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
比如大使去廣島 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
5378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
5380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
處長去長崎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
5380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
5382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
廣島因為在遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
5382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
5384.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
就鞏固了我們台日關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
5384.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
5386.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
雖然我們沒有邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
5386.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
5388.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
他把我們視同邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
5388.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
5390.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
我們當然是非常的肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
5390.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
5392.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
可是在長崎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
5392.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
5394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
因為他過去就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
5394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
5396.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
5396 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
5398 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
有一些比較不友善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
5398 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
5400 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
這個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
5400 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
5402 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
那這一次他們希望有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
5402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
5404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
所以其實跟外面報道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
5404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
是有出路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
並不是說像去年那個樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
中間又隔一個走道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
他我們的處長到的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5414.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
也是報到他也是專人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
5414.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
引導入座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
也有帶了一個就是所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5420.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
使節團的那個花很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
5421.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
5423.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
所以我認為某個程度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
5423.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5425.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
對方也可能感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5425.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5427.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5427.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5429.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
我們的誠意或他們社會的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5429.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5431.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
那我是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5432.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5434.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5434.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
我們仍然不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5438.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
我們還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5438.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5440.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
因為這樣一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5440.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5442.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5442.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5444.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
就是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5444.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
跟一般使節團一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
完全一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
可是事實上這裡面在實質上是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5452.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
可是他們對於台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5452.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
跟我們的外交關係或我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
國家的這個定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
是確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
不是邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5462.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
所以我覺得在外交是很複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5462.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
我們不可能都百分百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
用我們期待的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
有時候中間就要來來往往 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
慢慢去拉近這個距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5472.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
所以我認為說外面有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5472.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5474.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
可能認為說他們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5474.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5476.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
有點矮化我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5476.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5478.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
很不禮貌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5478.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5480.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
我也黨都表達了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5480.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5482.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
這是我們的國家的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5482.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5484.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
可是也要鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5483.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5485.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
他們朝改善的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5485.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5487.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
來這個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5489.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5491.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
部長這當然就是了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5491.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5493.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
不好意思主席我在耽誤一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5494.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5496.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
我相信其實部長我們都要釋出三立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5496.94 |
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5498.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
但是如果真的有不禮貌的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5498.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5500.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
我們也應該要講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5500.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5502.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
部長你聽那個回應你這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5502.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5504.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
是你要參加我給你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5506.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5508.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
聽到你怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5508.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5510.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
我們一直拜託人家讓我們參加你多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5510.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5512.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
所以你今天來你拜後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5512.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5514.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
那是我很尊重你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5514.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5516.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
他們是有到副市長陳吉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5516.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5518.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
跟我們交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5518.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5520.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
也有議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5520.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5522.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
大家都想促成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5522.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5524.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
基本上這個是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5524.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5526.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
和報是一個和平紀念的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5526.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5528.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
我是覺得這次裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5528.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5530.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
的拿捏我們已經做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5531.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5555.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5556.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
外交還是要來往啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5561.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
我是鼓勵我的我們的管處長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5561.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5562.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
要發揮創意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5562.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5564.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
讓他們授權他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5564.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5566.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
有一點彈性的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5566.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5568.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
因為在第一線打仗啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5568.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5570.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
外交是沒有煙消的戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5570.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5572.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
24小時111個外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5572.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5574.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
我們隨時都在作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5574.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5575.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
謝謝部長這樣的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5575.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5578.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
我想利用這個機會讓國人也看到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5578.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5581.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
當我們的外交情況遇到這種情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5581.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5583.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
我們該表達什麼樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5583.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5585.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
另外一場堅定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5585.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5587.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
態度很溫柔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5587.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5589.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
但是方法很有策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5589.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5591.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
另外就是有分手提到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5591.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5593.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
就是外交使節這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5593.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5595.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
就是如何把這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5595.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
我很正面看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5602.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
我們外交部的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5602.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5604.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
以具名的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5604.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5606.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
來提出檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5606.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5608.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
因此在7月底我們收到的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5608.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5610.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
我們就已經立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5610.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5613.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
然後8月2號就組成專案調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5613.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5616.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
然後現在呢我們的理事長也返國了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5616.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5618.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
因為這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5618.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5619.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
他檢舉的項目非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5619.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5620.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
涉及很多單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5620.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5623.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
恐怕不是我們公文往返啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5623.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5624.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
能夠辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5624.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5626.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
所以我們就請他回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5626.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5629.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
然後來面對這個調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5629.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5631.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
因為這都是很多外部委員都是專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5631.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5634.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
有法律的有諮商的這些專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5634.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5636.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
我們就信任他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5636.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5638.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
我們也希望這個程序能夠加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5638.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5640.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
那把他釐清事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5640.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5642.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
因為有一些可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5642.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5645.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
這個雙方面的一個認知或證據是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5645.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
那我們就把他提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5649.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
我們也不要馬上就下結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5649.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5652.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
然後給這個調查專業的小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5652.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5654.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
有一個調查的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5654.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
好謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
部長那個還是關心你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5660.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
真的要利用假日好好學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5660.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5661.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
平時真的國事如麻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5661.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5662.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
外交的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5662.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5663.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
剛剛我們聊起來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5663.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5666.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
一件小事情都可以忙成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5666.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5668.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
所以你班上的時候你也多睡一會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5668.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5670.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
我都在睡一會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5670.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5672.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
一路來找我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5672.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5673.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
那副算的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5673.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5675.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
很多人都在做你多睡一會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5675.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5677.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
就是人才嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5677.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5678.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
就好學習啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5678.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5680.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
好謝謝部長謝謝謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5680.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5681.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5683.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5686.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5689.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
我們接下來請許中信委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5698.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5699.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
親愛的女士 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5699.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5702.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
我會想請許家清先生上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5703.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5705.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
請許委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5707.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5709.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
國務卿 |
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5709.22 |
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5710.22 |
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國務卿 |
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5713.7 |
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5715.7 |
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啊呀 |
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5715.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5716.46 |
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我聽到你們的英文 |
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5716.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5717.46 |
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非常好 |
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5717.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5719.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5719.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5720.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5720.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5721.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5721.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5722.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5722.69 |
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5723.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5723.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5724.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5724.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5726.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5726.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5728.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5728.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5729.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5729.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5730.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5730.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5731.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5731.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5732.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5732.69 |
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5733.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
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5733.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5734.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5734.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5735.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5735.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5736.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5736.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5737.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5737.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5738.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5738.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5739.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5739.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5741.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5741.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5743.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5743.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5745.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
我聽到你們的英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5727.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5729.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
Fraganji in English |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5731.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
Fraganji in English |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5735.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5735.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
Good |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5737.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
First of all, I would like to complain to you. |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5741.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5743.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
On the 29th of this year |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5744.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5746.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5746.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5748.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5748.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5749.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5749.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5750.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5750.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5751.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5751.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5752.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5752.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5753.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5753.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5754.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5754.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5755.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5755.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5756.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5756.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5757.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5757.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5758.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5758.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5759.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5759.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5760.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5760.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5761.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5761.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5762.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5762.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5763.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5763.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5764.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5764.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5765.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5765.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5766.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5766.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5767.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5767.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5768.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5768.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5769.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5769.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5770.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5770.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5771.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5771.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5772.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5772.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5773.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
the whole Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5750.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5751.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
Chinese Community |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
and the Japan |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5756.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
Taiwanese Chamber of Commerce |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5756.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5758.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
register the legislative |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5760.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5762.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
and you are former |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5762.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5763.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
VICE |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5763.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5764.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
Minister Zhang |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5766.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5768.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
Taiwanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5768.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5770.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
and the third generation of |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5771.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5772.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
Taiwanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5772.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5773.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5773.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5775.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
they did not speak Mandarin |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5776.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5778.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
they can only speak Mandarin |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5778.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5780.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
as a simple sentence |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5780.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
so this kind of situation |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5783.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
for me |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5784.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5785.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
to use Japanese |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5788.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
to host the banquet |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5788.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
and entertain them |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5791.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5792.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
And secondly |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5795.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
2023 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5796.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5797.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
There was a |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5797.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5798.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
English teaching |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5799.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
volunteer service program |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5802.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5804.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
to praise in Taiwan right |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5804.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5805.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5806.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5807.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
There was a |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
Miao Li Primary Pupil |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5810.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5812.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
Who speak very well English |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5812.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5813.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5813.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5815.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
To express his |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5815.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5817.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
Greater to appreciation |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5817.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5818.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
to the volunteer |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5818.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5819.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
English teacher |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5822.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5828.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5829.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5829.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
That is great |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5832.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5833.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5833.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5835.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
We also have the opportunity |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5835.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5837.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
for them to visit Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5838.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5840.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
to know Taiwan's culture |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5841.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5843.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
and to know Taiwan's humanity |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5844.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5845.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
That is great |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5845.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5847.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
I will do my best |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5847.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
I will keep going |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5849.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5853.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5855.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
The formal conference |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5856.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5858.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
What kind of language did you use |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5858.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5861.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
First time I will ask every audience |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5861.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
What kind of language they can understand |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
Most young people |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
understanding English only |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5871.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
They just |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5871.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5872.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5872.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5874.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
Etherly people |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5874.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5877.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
Most can speak Mandarin, English |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5877.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5879.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
and Taiwanese or Hakka |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5879.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5883.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
So I will use those languages |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5883.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5885.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
The first and second generation |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5885.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5887.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
They can speak Mandarin |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5891.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
I don't think so |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5894.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5895.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
But why not |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5895.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5897.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
The third generation |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5897.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5900.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
They cannot speak Mandarin very well |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5904.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5906.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
Who use Mandarin |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5907.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5909.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
Do you understand |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5909.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5911.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
The conference time |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
So your answer |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5915.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
Remind me |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5915.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
Legislator Xu |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5919.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
I know you just come back from USA |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5919.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
I always follow you |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5921.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
Your answer remind me of your predecessor |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5925.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5926.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5926.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5927.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
From Ye Gong Chao |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5928.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5929.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
講笑言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
That's why in everywhere |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
I always speak local languages |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5935.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5940.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
They facing the first and second generation of overseas Chinese |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5940.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5944.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
At that time they still can use Mandarin to communicate with each other |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5944.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
But they |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5947.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5950.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
Still very fluent with English |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5950.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5951.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
I understand |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5952.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
I think you say |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5956.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5958.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
But |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5959.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
They still speak local languages |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5963.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5964.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
That's for us |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5964.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5965.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5968.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5969.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5970.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
Ye Gong Chao |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5971.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5973.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
They can use Chinese to speak |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5973.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5976.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
But they still very fluent with English |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5977.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5978.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
So what |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5978.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5980.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5981.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
Then |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5981.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5982.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
Would you please |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5983.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5987.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
Translate your own paragraph language into Chinese into English now |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5988.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5990.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
I always do that |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5990.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5991.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
Legislator Xu |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5991.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5992.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
I always do that |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5997.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
Would you please translate your own language into English |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5998.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5999.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
But now |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5999.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
6000.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
6000.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
6001.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
6002.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
6003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
So |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
6004.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
6005.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
Inside |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
6006.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
6007.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
Lose |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
6013.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
6014.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
They |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
6014.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
6015.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
Will |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
6015.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
6016.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
Through |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
6016.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
6017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
These |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
6017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
6018.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
U.T. |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
6018.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
6019.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
Culture |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
6019.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
6020.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
Participants |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
6019.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
6021.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
To know our Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
6030.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
6031.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
6038.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
6039.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
Help |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
6040.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
6043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
Our young students open their vision |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
6043.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
6046.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
That is not good enough for your job |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
6046.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
6047.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
Let me do it for you |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
6048.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
6051.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
Those here are not for the Taiwanese or Chinese |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
6052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
6053.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
Yours |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
6054.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
6055.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
6065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
6066.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
6067.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
6068.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
And on the other hand |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
6069.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
6071.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
We can let our pupils have the chance |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
6073.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
6074.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
To learn English here |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
6076.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
6078.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
To know Taiwan's culture |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
6078.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
6081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
Know this piece of dance humanity |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
6081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
6082.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
And on the other hand |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
6082.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
6083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
That Taiwan's pupils |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
6083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
6084.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
Legislator Xu |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
6084.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
6087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
That's why we need more budget |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
6087.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
6088.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
To do more |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
6088.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
6092.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
Lose like English volunteer program |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
6092.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
6095.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
Or more bus car program |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
6095.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
6097.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
So you should support us |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
6097.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
6100.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
Give us more budget |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
6100.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
6102.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
Not only just ask me |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
6102.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
6103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
Because I have |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
6103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
6105.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
Not enough budget |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
6105.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
6108.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
When you visit the United States |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
6108.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
6110.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
What kind of language you use |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
6110.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
6112.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
To address the formal Chinese |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
6112.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
6113.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
I will |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
6113.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
6114.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
I will |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
6114.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
6115.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
I will do that |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
6115.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6118.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
What did you use |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6118.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6119.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
What did you use |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6119.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6120.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6120.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6121.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
I will |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6122.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6123.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
I will |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6123.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6125.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
We are both to three then right |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6125.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6126.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6126.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6127.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6127.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6128.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
What kind of language |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6128.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6131.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
Will you intend to address the formal Chinese there |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6132.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6133.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6133.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6134.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6134.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6135.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
That's good |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6135.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6136.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6136.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
6137.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
Thank you |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
6138.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
6139.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
6141.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
6145.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
因為我們在中華民國的國會殿堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
6145.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
6147.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
上一次林佳龍部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
6147.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
6148.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
回答許委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
6148.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
6151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
許委員用什麼樣的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
6151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
6153.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
那我想都沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
6153.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
6155.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
不過因為我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
6155.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
6158.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
我們的國會殿堂的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
6158.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
6159.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
是有記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
6159.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
6161.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
有公報記錄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
6161.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
6162.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
上一次林佳龍部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
6162.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
6166.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
是用我們的國語中文來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
6166.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
6169.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
我想所有的語彙的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
6169.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
6171.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
都要注意到這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
6172.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
6173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
跟召委報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
6173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
6175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
等一下我會把它全部翻譯好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
6175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
6176.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
提供參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
6176.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
6177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
6177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
6178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
6178.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
6179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
因為我也是臨時被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
6179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
6180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
那個許委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
6180.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
6181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
我也不知道我今天要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
6181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
6182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
6182.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
6183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
要被要求的語文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
6183.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
6186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
請陳冠廷委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
6191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
6192.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
6196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
6199.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
好我們請林佳龍部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
6199.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
6200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
好請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
6209.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
6210.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
6210.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
6211.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
6211.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
6212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
我們今天見證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
6212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
6213.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
我們台灣慢慢的要邁向雙語國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
6213.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
6215.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
那這是一個好的開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
6217 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
6219 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
那我們先談一下外交好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
6219 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
6221 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
其實今天可能沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
6221 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
6222 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
直接來談這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
6222 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
6223 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
我們今天專案的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
6223 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
6225 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
我今天想要談一下就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
6225 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
6226 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
就是我們國家預算增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
6226 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
6229 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
那當然我們有看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
6229 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
6231 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
真的內政的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
6231 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
6232 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
有包含要刺激消費等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
6232 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
6233 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
那我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
6233 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
6234 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
隨著我們的進行預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
6234 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
6235 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
經費的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
6235 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
6236 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
我們在外交上面的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
6236 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
6237 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
怎麼去配 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
6237 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
6238 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
怎麼去分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
6238.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
6239.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
我為什麼會講這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
6239.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
6240.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
6241.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
6242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
有多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
6242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
6243.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
現在的美國政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
6243.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
6244.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
川普總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
6245.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
6246.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
他們的多次發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
6246.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
6247.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
常常會針對我們台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
6248.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
6250.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
那我們可以理解到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
6250.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
6252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
美國對於他們再工業化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
6252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
6253.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
那對再工業化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
6253.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
6255.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
以及他們的經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
6255.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
6257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
是有他們自己對自己的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
6257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
6259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
那他們希望把工作留在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
6259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
6261.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
這些我們都理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
6261.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
6263.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
那我們在拜登政府時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
6263.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
6266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
那那個時候的溝通是很順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
6266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
6267.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
那時候的溝通順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
6267.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
6268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
在於說他們知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
6268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
最有效率的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
6270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6272.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
是讓全球分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6272.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6275.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
包含在友邦國家內的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6275.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
6276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
6276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
6278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
如果台灣是一個可信賴的夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
6278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
6279.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
在台灣生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
6279.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
6280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
在台灣製造晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6282.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
對於美國的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6282.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6284.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
是更加有經濟效率的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6285.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6288.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
那拜登政府理解這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
6289.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
不過在美國政府大概更替之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
那他們政策會調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6294.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
政策調整不是對或錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6297.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
那會影響到我國嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6297.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
因為他們會不斷強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6303.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
這個希望在美方的國土內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6303.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
自己來去生產晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
自己來去擴大他們的工業能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6309.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6311.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
那這個時候我們必須要放住的資源就多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6311.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6313.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
也就是說我們以前過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6313.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6315.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我們跟國會議員來去交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6315.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6319.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
過去是跟這個智庫來去交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6319.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6322.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
那現在我們當然要把資源放更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6322.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6324.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
在於能夠接觸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6324.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
川普總統及其智囊團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
甚至是他背後的支持者、贊助者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6331.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6333.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
的這個可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6335.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6336.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6336.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6339.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
那過去當然是很多是在傳統的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6340.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6342.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
那我們是不是要思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6342.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6344.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
非傳統的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6344.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
不管是你說遊說的方式也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6346.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6349.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
或者是擴大遊說的能力也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6349.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6351.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6350.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
我們講有些是機密有些是非機密的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6354.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
那機密外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6356 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6358 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
能夠做些什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6358 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6359 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
能夠確保說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6359 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6362 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
因為每一次美國總統講的每一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6362 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6365 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
他都會影響到我們整體的經濟產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6365.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6367.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6366.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6368.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
在拜登政府時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6368.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6370.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
美國是提供很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6370.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6372.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
中央政府聯邦政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6372.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6375.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
是提供中央經濟的這個刺激 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6375.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6377.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
甚至是誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6377.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6379.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
甚至在減稅在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6379.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6381.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
以及這個振興金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6381.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6385.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
很多誘因給我國去美國投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6385.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
現在剛好不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
現在是透過稅制去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
一個是希望你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
一個是強制你去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
那這有點不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6395.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
一個是對剛才委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6395.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
一個是用拉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6397.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
一個是用推的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6397.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
那不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6399.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
那我們意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6402.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
我相信我們的外交部 |
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6402.8 |
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6404.8 |
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在美方的這些駐管 |
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6404.8 |
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6406.8 |
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都會附著很大的力量 |
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6406.8 |
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但是他們需要的 |
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6410.8 |
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除了自己的權力 |
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6410.8 |
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6412.8 |
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去來促進台灣的外交之外 |
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6412.8 |
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6413.8 |
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他們也需要資源 |
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6413.8 |
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6416.8 |
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以及非傳統外交的方式 |
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6416.8 |
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6417.8 |
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可不可以請部長簡單 |
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6421.55 |
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報告委員 |
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6423.55 |
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因為川普總統 |
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6423.55 |
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6426.55 |
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是已經是第二次做總統 |
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6426.55 |
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6428.55 |
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我們在他第一任 |
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6428.55 |
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6430.55 |
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其實那四年合作的是很好 |
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6430.55 |
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其實就第二任來看 |
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到目前為止 |
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6434.55 |
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6437.55 |
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其實台美的關係也是很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
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6440.55 |
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就是說我覺得他當然很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6440.55 |
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6441.55 |
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所謂的商業外交 |
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6441.55 |
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6443.55 |
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就我們的經濟外交 |
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6443.55 |
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6446.55 |
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那他的方式可能透過關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6446.55 |
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6448.55 |
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投資來促進供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6448.55 |
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6450.55 |
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的一個安全 |
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6450.55 |
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6451.55 |
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所以對我們來講 |
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6451.55 |
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6452.55 |
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這也是符合我們的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6452.55 |
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6454.55 |
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所以如果你從我們這兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6454.55 |
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6456.55 |
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接近兩年來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6456.55 |
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6458.55 |
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我想台美都是贏家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6458.55 |
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6460.55 |
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我們是共生夥伴關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6460.55 |
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6461.55 |
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那因為美中在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6461.55 |
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6463.55 |
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包括AI的抗衡上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6463.55 |
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6465.55 |
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因為這有安全的考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
所有的經濟都是安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
經濟安全也是國家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
所以大的戰略上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6472.55 |
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我們必須順勢而為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6472.55 |
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6473.55 |
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那結果來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6473.55 |
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6474.55 |
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比如說像台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6477.55 |
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投資在美國是基於他自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
商業的考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
他客戶在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
然後你看他去年已經盈利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6483.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
今年的第一季 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6483.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
都已經大於去年整年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
所以我們政府沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
勉強企業的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
但是我們怎麼樣跟企業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6492.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
就像我們講的所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6492.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
這種總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
所以我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
其實外交資源的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6500.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
當然包括我們怎麼樣去邀訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6500.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
怎麼樣去參加智庫的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
我們會善用這些立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
給我們更多的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6507.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6507.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6509.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
我剛剛提到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6509.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6511.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
我當然覺得是台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6511.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6512.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
他去赴美他投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6512.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6514.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
經過我們的審查之後赴美投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6514.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6516.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
他符合自己的企業利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6516.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
這個我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
而且說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6520.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
台積電是全球的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6520.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
業的重要的一環 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
他也在全球佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
他在日本也佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6524.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
在美國也佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6524.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6526.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
他未來也在歐洲佈局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6526.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
這個我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6528.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
但是我們要知道的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6528.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
美國總統的一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6532.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
他對市場的波動是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6532.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
也就是說我們怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6535.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
剛才有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6535.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
怎麼樣把資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
除了傳統外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6539.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
剛才部長你還沒有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6539.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6541.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
非傳統外交的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6541.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6543.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
要怎麼樣去編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6543.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6545.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
甚至你用機密外交我都不反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6547.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
他的每句話都很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6548.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
有人在影響他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6553.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
那我們也需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6553.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
猶太人這個公共利益團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6558.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6560.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
在美國的這些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6561.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
大型的遊說團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
他就是一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6564.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
他們甚至能夠成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
來去塑造美國的國家政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6571.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
去塑造美國的外交政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6572.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6574.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
現在台灣的資源是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
這50年以來最大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
我們國家的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
是這50年來最大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
我們的經濟的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
現在是G20等級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6584.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
更何況是科技能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6584.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
那我們怎麼樣有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6586.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
用這些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6586.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
外交資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6590.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
來去用非傳統外交的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6590.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6592.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
達成我們的國家利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6592.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
這個部長心中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
有沒有一些想法策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6598.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
其實美國的民主政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6598.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6600.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
他就是某種程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6600.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
也是遊說政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6601.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6602.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
那因為台灣是得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6602.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6604.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
美國人民廣泛的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6604.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
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跨黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6605.59 |
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6606.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
包括參眾兩院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6606.59 |
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6607.59 |
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所以這時候行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6607.59 |
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6608.59 |
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誰當總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6608.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6610.59 |
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其實我們跟國務院的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6610.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6611.59 |
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也非常的順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6611.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6612.59 |
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所以才能夠你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6615.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
包括我們所謂的對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6615.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6618.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
我們得到所謂最高15%不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6618.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
最近無人機就最清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
台灣是大贏家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
如果就輸出美國來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
那更重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
我們怎麼樣跟美國結合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
把無人機的產業做大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
所以這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
我們實際上是用很少的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
尤其是我們駐美處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
真的是各國都很羨慕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
我想包括韓國瑜院長去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
他都有感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
我想包括楊永康委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
其實當時也是在駐美 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
我們的人發揮的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
我想是人家的十倍大以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
現在是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
這個團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
因為現在的談判已經記錄到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
不只是傳統外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
包括科技外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
這一些新興科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6659.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
在整個外交上的作用是非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6659.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6661.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
所以我們跨部會的合作非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6661.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6663.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
所以不管從Art或者是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6663.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
所謂的這個投資的合作備忘錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6668.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
或者是有關於現在供應鏈重組裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
細甚事等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
其實我們很忙碌是在對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6677.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6678.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
這樣一個美國政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6678.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6681.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
事實上美國政客連續性是大於變動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6681.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
其實川普第一任就提出乾淨網絡的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6687.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
然後拜登就變成數位團結的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6687.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6689.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
現在又回到所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6689.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6692.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
人工智慧的安全的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6693.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6695.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
有一些變化是個人風格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6695.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
但是有一些基本上是政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
來更深層的是民意的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6702.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
那以半導體或是AI來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6702.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6704.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
就像黃仁勳講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6705.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6707.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
是台灣救了美國的半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6707.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
沒有台灣的話可能這個半導體產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6709.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6711.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
美國就已經瓦解掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6711.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6713.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
所以我們是共生夥伴關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6713.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6715.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
這樣一個戰略的觀點來看的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6715.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6717.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
我們要看得清楚什麼是本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6717.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6718.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
什麼是比較是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6718.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6719.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6719.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6721.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
我最後再講一句就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6721.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6723.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
我們除了投資現在也要投資未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6723.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6726.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
所以投資現在意思就是說現在的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6726.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
那投資未來就是接下來十年的布局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
那我們的產業也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6731.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
我們現在國家有餘裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6731.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6733.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
除了所謂普發之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6733.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6735.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
我們也要去布局未來的十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6735.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6737.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
包含量子科技 太空科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6737.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6740.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
還有我們的新世代的這個半導體的科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6740.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6742.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
新世代的基礎結成都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6742.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
同樣的外交也必須要做好相應的布局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6749.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
那我們過去四年準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6749.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6752.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
跟這個可能的任何的潛在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6752.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
不管是總統人選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6755.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
或者是未來的領袖要做好準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6755.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6757.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
那接下來也是要做好各樣的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6757.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6762.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
包含我自己看有許多州長他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6762.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6763.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
美國總統裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6763.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
州長成為總統的確實是不在少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
那一些州的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6771.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
跟我們台灣的哪一些區塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6771.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
比如說哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6773.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
比方說大台中地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6773.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
我們大嘉義地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
這樣的利益怎麼做結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
對我們未來台美關係非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6779.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
那幾個州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6783.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
不管南卡還是北卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6783.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
還是幾個關鍵州 賓州等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我們不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
威斯康辛也是好密西根都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6788.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6789.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6789.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6791.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
那我們預先先思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6791.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
哪一些是具有展望性的政治人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6796.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
以及他的州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6796.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6798.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
可以跟台灣的哪些產業鏈來去做連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6798.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6799.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
就像剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6800.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6801.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
部長有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6801.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6803.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
那步步都是外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6803.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6804.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
那你也提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6804.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6807.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
我們現在已經走到總和經濟區了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6807.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6808.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
那總和經濟裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6808.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6809.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
除了價值之外的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6809.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6810.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
怎麼樣的去結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6810.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6811.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
我想很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6811.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6813.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
那特別現在當然共和黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6813.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6815.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
很多都對我們很熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6815.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6816.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
但我還是要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6816.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
我們除了國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
我們也需要外交官 |
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因為最終來去經過國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6822.91 |
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6823.91 |
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經過安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6825.91 |
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甚至經過這一些衝突之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
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最後要去做整個總結的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
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還是要外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
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或者是說在防範這一切的發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
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也是要外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6834.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
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那外交官他必須要很熟悉這一些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
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也就是說他需要長期的培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
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我們去訪美的時候我都很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
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記得說一些我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
因為立法院的處長也很了不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
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花很多時間都把每一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
他們過去的接觸的這些縣的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6850.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
都記得起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6853.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
十年二十年累積起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6854.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
所以職業外交官是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
我常常講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
什麼外交才子什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6859.19 |
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外交才子如果沒有經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
時間跟經驗的累積的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6860.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
那他是什麼外交才子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6864.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
那只是被政治任命的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
我也是經過選災選出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
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如果被政治任命的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
我算什麼外交才子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
我什麼都不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
我沒有過去的這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6874.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
其實議員當外交官是正常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6874.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6877.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
以後各位委員其實都是大使級的人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6878.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
不過我跟委員分享一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6880.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
你剛講那個重點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6880.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
我們在對美工作裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6884.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
其實美國是聯邦制我們很強調州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6884.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6886.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
所以兩年前我去開區域會報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6886.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6888.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
我們就針對subnational |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6888.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
所以五十個州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
我們現在all politics local |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6893.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
所以這一些眾議員參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
到州長到甚至總統副總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6897.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
他很多是來自於他州內的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6899.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
選出來他的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
所以這個經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
我們花非常非常多心思在邀訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6906.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
不是只有全國性的這種參眾議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6908.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
我們到這個州的層級下面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
所以我們台灣有設了20幾個美國州 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6913.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
在那邊有辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
我們現在那邊又加了一個鳳凰城 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6916.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
新的辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
我們是14個管處在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
那個真的是深入到美國最基層到社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6924.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
所以我們為什麼花那麼少的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
可以達到這麼好的外交效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
是來自於我們整體的對美國的這種政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6930.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
除了理念相近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
兩邊的人民共享自由民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
和平跟繁榮的價值以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6938.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
其實很重要的是我們跟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6940.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
不管是投資採購或留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6942.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
人才的交流等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
這一些全面性網絡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6946.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
在美國的社會生根 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6948.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
我認為在這一次的投資美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6950.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
我們之後我想台灣會進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6950.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6952.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
一個台美關係的新境界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6952.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6953.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
新的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6953.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6955.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
就是已經不是早期的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6955.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6956.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
或者是留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6956.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6958.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
現在有第二代甚至台商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
像北美洲台商會組織起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6961.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
再去敲門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6961.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
在美國的行政跟國會部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
他提出的政治主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
其實美國的政治人物他是更重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
所以我們一定要從草根來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6972.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6975.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
參與美國的這個政策的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6975.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6976.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6978.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6979.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6981.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6984.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
我們接下來請徐喬新委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
我們是不是能夠有請林佳龍林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6995.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
7004.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
7005.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
7005.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
7008.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
我想今天想要跟你討論一個很嚴肅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
7008.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
7010.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
但是大家都很關注的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
7010.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
7013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
就是我們近期的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
7013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
7016.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
有爆發的這個霸凌的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
7016.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
7018.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我想我們先從整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
7018.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
7020.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
就是這幾個月以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
7020.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
7023.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
大半年來所發生的這個霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
7023.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
7026.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
再細步到這一次的個案的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
7026.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
7028.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
所以首先想要問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
7028.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
7030.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
你自己的掌握就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
7030.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
7032.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
上任以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
7032.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
7036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
外交部有多少起的這個霸凌的申訴案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
7036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
7038.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
或是比較嚴重的一些案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
7039.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
我想大概兩年多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
應該十件左右啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7045.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7045.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
差不多就是至少有八起以上嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
那根據外交部的這個安全及衛生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
防護委員會的審議結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7055.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
其中兩起是不予受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7055.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
兩起調查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7060.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
還有四起是在調查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7060.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7062.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
那我想要請問一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7062.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
您當時有推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
在七月的時候推出三大措施 |
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7066.32 |
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7070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
那是要來應對職場霸凌的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
那請問一下這個宣布以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
自己覺得那我們推出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7076.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
這樣的一個作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7076.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7078.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
有哪邊還有可以精進的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7078.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7080.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
可以調整的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7080.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7083.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
其實教育宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7083.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
然後跟申訴管道把它暢通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7086.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
以及如果這個部長是可以得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7091.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
我們外交部同仁的信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7091.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7095.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
他會很樂於從內部來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7095.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7098.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
不然的話可能就爆料一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7098.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7099.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7099.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7101.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
那我鼓勵是具名最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7101.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7103.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
那像這一次以這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7103.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7105.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
我們駐內瓦辦事處的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7105.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
就是因為有具名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
所以我們在七月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7112.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
就已經接到這個檢舉或申訴的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7112.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7116.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
我們實際上就成立了專案調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7116.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
所以已經將近三個禮拜了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7118.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
這個我有一個不同意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7120.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
就是說具名當然好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7122.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7125.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
但是很多的同仁因為畢竟文官嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7125.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
所以好不容易做了這個外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7131.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
然後他有時候迫於他自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7131.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
這個生涯發展的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
他不見得敢於用這個具名的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7137.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
做申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7137.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7139.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
但並不等同於霸凌沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7139.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7141.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
或是我們外交部上級的官務聚調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7141.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7143.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
沒有處理我們還是會來判斷之後處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7143.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
對所以我覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7145.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
我倒不認為說這個我會由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7147.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7150.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
霸凌被爆出來的這個案件數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7150.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7153.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
來評估外交部做得好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7153.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7155.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
而是我們每一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7155.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7157.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
包含被公布出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7157.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7158.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
被社會討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7158.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7160.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
我們外交部有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7160.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7162.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
有沒有能力來積極的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7162.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7165.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
去還給這些可能被霸凌的人員一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7165.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7168.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
所以案件數量的話我們可以看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7168.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7171.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
我不會因為數量多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7171.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7173.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
我就認為是外交部處理得好或不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7173.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7176.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
但是呢我也必須要提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7176.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7181.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
其實近年來外交部出現了很多的霸凌案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7181.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7182.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
你可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7184.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
是有一些室友上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7185.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7186.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
類似的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7186.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7189.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
比如說很多都是屬於冷暴力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7189.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7192.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
然後家屬因為他們就是外派在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7192.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7194.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
所以家屬理論上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7194.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7197.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
你作為家屬這個公事公辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7197.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7199.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
那私事的話不能公辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7199.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7202.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
那所以遺址棄使這個是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7202.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7204.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
然後呢你看幾乎都是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7204.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7207.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
就是比較多是可能羞辱性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7207.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7210.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
然後這個還有這個過度的苛責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7210.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
冷暴力等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7214.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
先前不是在外交部也有發生就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7217.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
就是我們這個經貿小組的這個不幸的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7221.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
我想您應該很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7221.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
那好險不是這個在外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7227.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
但是我還是要提到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7227.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
如果我們對於這些霸凌案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7233.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
沒有辦法適當的快速的去制止的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7233.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7234.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
那你很難說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7234.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
後續如果發生讓人遺憾的事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
那都來不及了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7240.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
所以我想請問一下就是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7240.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
這上面的集體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
還有沒有一些我們還沒有調查完畢正在調查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7250.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
可不可以一次替大家說明一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7250.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
現在還有哪幾起可能他在媒體上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
有被揭露公開的霸凌案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
我們還在調查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
那我們大概需要多久的時間能夠調查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7262.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
好我請我們人事處長請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7264.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7265.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7265.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7268.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
畫面上提供的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7268.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7270.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
除了李冠德 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7270.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7273.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
李處長這個案子還在現在還在處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7273.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
其他的我們都已經處理完畢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
那有後續申訴就是有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
然後有做懲處的部分嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7283.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7283.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7285.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
哪些可不可以做一個比較詳細的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7285.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
這邊沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7287.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7287.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7289.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
那其他的部分可不可以跟大家說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7289.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7293.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
就是說有哪幾起近期的霸凌申訴案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7293.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7297.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
那後續有確定做懲處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7297.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
做懲處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
你們就是有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
霸凌申訴案有成立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
我們如果有成立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
我們是譬如說如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7308.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
嚴重的話我們才會懲處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7308.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7310.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
如果是說像館長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7310.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7313.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
有成立所謂的職場霸凌的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7313.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7315.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
我們馬上就是把他調回部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7315.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
就是把他的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7319.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
那你大概在近幾年還有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7319.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7322.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
這個部分因為那個案子並沒有見報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7322.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7325.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
是不是事實上我們會後再跟那個委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7325.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7327.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
好你可以再跟我報告沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7327.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
但是我也要提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7331.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
這些人他會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7333.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7335.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
講這個申訴案或是講這個霸凌案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7335.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7337.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
那他一定也會希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7337.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7339.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
他處理會有一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7339.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
所以我們大概平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7345.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
平均大概要幾個月能夠調查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7345.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7347.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
因為我看到有的一個月的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7347.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7349.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
有個兩個月的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7349.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7351.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
再跟委員說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7351.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
因為發生的事件都是在外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7357.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
所以中間我們除了就是會一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7357.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7359.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
先做一些行政釐清以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7359.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7362.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
然後我們還要跟外部委員先討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7362.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
討論完了以後還要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
就是外館的館員約時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7367.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
因為會有時差嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7367.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7368.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
然後他們可能內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7368.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
自己也要收集一些證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7373.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
所以原則上我們都一定會依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7373.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7374.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
公務人員保障法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7374.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7376.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
還有那個安慰辦法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7376.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7378.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
在期限內完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7378.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
但是多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7381.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
只要我們收到受理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7381.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7383.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
我們一個月內一定要確定要不要受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7383.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
受理確定受理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
兩個月內要完成調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
好那接下來我要問的是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7392.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
這個因為我們回到個案來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7392.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7395.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
駐日內瓦的處長爆出爭議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7395.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
新聞裡面提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
李冠德知道被申訴以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
找了召集辦事處的同仁開會施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
就我們現在的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7405.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
有沒有這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7407.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7409.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
應該是有開會但內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7409.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
因為我們要等受調查者回來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7413.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7413.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
他已經回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7415.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
他已經回來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7415.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
那什麼時候可以得到一個合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7419.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
在專案小組安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7419.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7421.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
因為這個會讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7421.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7423.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
為什麼我前面會問部長您就是說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7423.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7425.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7425.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7427.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
具名跟不具名的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7427.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7428.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
你看這個就很明顯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7430.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7432.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
我們先假設說新聞報道是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7432.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
那如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7433.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7434.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
如果事實明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7434.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7436.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
就算沒具名我們一樣會敗訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7436.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
對因為我要講的事情是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7437.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7438.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
因為霸凌的申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7438.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7440.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
他最麻煩的地方就在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7440.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
他檢舉之後他第一件事情找的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7444.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
是找所有人來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7444.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7445.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
那我問一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7445.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7448.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
你們就你們現在所了解的就是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7448.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7451.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
被申訴之後找大家開會的用意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7451.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7453.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
是針對他個人的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7453.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7455.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
還是說呢只是例行性的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7455.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
就算是例行性的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7458.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
還是額外增加的一個會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7460.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7462.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
這個都要等他回來說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7462.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
對那你等了老半天之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7466.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
你就是到時候這件事情傳過水靈魂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7466.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
大家想知道的部分就沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
這個也會列入調查的範圍啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
那你最後調查會公開嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7474.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
這個案子調查報告會不會公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7474.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7476.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
這個程序怎麼走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7476.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
沒有因為像舉例來講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
剛才講的其他的霸凌的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
那你有的你霸凌案成立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
可是呢你就依照好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
你們的規定也好或怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
但是你最後只是調職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
那很多事情也沒有公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7492.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
可是我就舉這個例子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7492.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
李冠德的事情都已經在上了新聞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
而且被檢舉的包含您剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
他可能有具名包含有很多的市政提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
那如果你們調查了兩個月以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
調查報告沒有辦法公開的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
對於社會上很多民眾是沒有辦法交代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
所以我想要問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
我們能不能去承諾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
等案接下來調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7512.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
調查完畢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7512.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7514.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
再去識別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7514.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7516.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
你可能有些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7516.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7518.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
再去識別化你可能有些各自的規定等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7518.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7520.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
在法律的允許的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7520.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7522.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
能夠把案情公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7522.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7524.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
因為我們總不希望今天在媒體上講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7524.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7526.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7526.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7528.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
被申訴之後施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7528.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7530.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
那到最後有或沒有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7530.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
你總要給社會上一個交代跟說明吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7534.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
是包委員因為現在雙方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7534.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7536.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
認知跟說明差距很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7536.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7538.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
所以說要調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7538.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
不過我也是中和跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7542.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
一個外交官的培養是很不容易 |
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那在外館也是在 |
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很大的壓力工作下 |
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因為涉及到外交的戰場 |
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真的是沒有驗消的戰爭 |
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那可能會做的是改善 |
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工作環境 |
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讓這個管道申訴可以暢通以外 |
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你剛剛講我要打斷你一下 |
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因為你外交官很難培養 |
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那他霸凌的人如果他霸凌 |
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那一個人好OK你給他 |
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培養起來 |
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一個人霸凌五個人 |
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這樣的話五個人不就在權益上 |
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大家都很辛苦 |
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今天是被檢舉的人你可能覺得說 |
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他這工作很辛苦幫他工作 |
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他們也很辛苦 |
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所以我還是要幫這些企劃去 |
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他今天之所以會有人來申訴 |
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一定是有一些狀況 |
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但是狀況嚴重有沒有到達 |
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這個霸凌的界線是你們調查小組 |
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要去做調查的 |
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有些涉及非霸凌事項有些涉及霸凌的部分 |
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所以我希望可以得到一個承認 |
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就是本案到底調查小組 |
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會不會公開 |
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我們調查小組 |
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這個程序在進行中結果如何 |
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那我們一定是把情懷放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
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什麼情況下會公開什麼情況下會不公開 |
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因為現在才剛開始我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
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專案調查小組 |
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一點時間跟空間 |
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我知道外界很關心 |
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程序要走好 |
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對當然啦我沒有說程序不走好但是你調查完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
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他是什麼情況之下 |
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會不公開什麼情況之下 |
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會公開你這點你總是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
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我們都有相關的規範 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
我們也讓專案調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
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因為這些都是外部委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
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很多都是專業經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
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所以你官方要跟大家講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
你現在要回覆我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
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就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
調查完之後不是好他霸凌有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
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那成立的話什麼樣的程度 |
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那他這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
我們的調查技術會公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
那什麼樣程度以下他是不會公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
這個應該是知道的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
沒有這個個案到具體這麼細 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
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因為涉及到我們外交機密或等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
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我們要中和去考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
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那一定要等這個程序走到一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
我現在真的沒有辦法講說SNO的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7662.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
到底要公布到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
那涉及到我們外交業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
那也請委員給我們一點課編 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
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我認你講這個東西就變成是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
所有人都要因為你講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
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是不是所謂的外交機密 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
我剛剛講了你會去示示博化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
你會去去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
你的機密沒有人讓你公開給大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
但是譬如說我舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
這個人他被申訴之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
有沒有去靠近施壓人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
這個沒有涉及任何機密 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
我們也要去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7690.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
對我沒有否認說你要去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
我問的是調查完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7694.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
那到底發生了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7696.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
到底有沒有涉及霸凌霸凌的程度是如何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
我還是希望能夠給全民一個交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
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因為這個是你都已經被眾多的人去討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
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是因為有交代的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
需要一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7706.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
我們來努力謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7706.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7708.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7708.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
我們接下來請沈柏楊委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7733.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7735.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7735.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7737.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
有請部長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7744.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
部長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7748.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
今天這個題目在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7748.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
這個青年國際事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
所以我就針對這一點來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7752.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
那第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7754.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
這是我這樣列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7756.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
就是目前按照我們的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7758.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
我們外交部有在做的一些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7760.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
那第一個這個青年百億海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
圓夢基金計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
這一點大概是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
最耳熟能詳的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
那後面還有很多其他的這個我不贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
那我想先問就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
我們現在針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
尤其是一二啦還有這一個五啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
就是說我們的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
一直把人才送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
看起來申請也熱烈這個都OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
那我們現在對於他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
回來這件事情 |
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7786.69 |
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就是說畢竟就是 |
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我知道因為外交部其實最主要是要負責跟外面的銜接啦 |
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7790.69 |
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7792.69 |
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等等之類 |
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7792.69 |
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7794.69 |
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所以如果他們要回來這件事情 |
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7796.69 |
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除了跨部會之外可能地方上 |
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7798.69 |
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也要來試著做做看 |
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7800.69 |
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那不知道這一個現在以外交部的立場來講 |
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7800.69 |
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7802.69 |
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知不知道說他們現在回來的這個狀況 |
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7802.69 |
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7804.69 |
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就是說他們出去之後 |
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7806.69 |
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多少人回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7806.69 |
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7808.69 |
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或是說把這些東西帶回來 |
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7808.69 |
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7810.69 |
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或是說他不一定回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7810.69 |
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7812.69 |
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但他可能在海外做了一些事情之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7812.69 |
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7814.69 |
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又有投資回來台灣這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7814.69 |
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7816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
報告委員我們之所以會去把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
這些二三十年來累積的人才庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
把它建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7820.69 |
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7822.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
另外也希望它持續的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7822.69 |
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7824.69 |
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互動因為有些人可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7824.69 |
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7826.69 |
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在人生的後面階段又會跟我們外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7826.69 |
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7828.69 |
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業務有交集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7828.69 |
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7830.69 |
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所以我們也組織起來就是國際青年大使協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7830.69 |
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7832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
讓他們學長姐來帶學弟妹 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
另外剛剛有INGO |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7834.69 |
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7836.69 |
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很多會持續互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7836.69 |
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7838.69 |
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我們有活動會發通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7838.69 |
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7840.69 |
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因為我們各種的論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7840.69 |
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7842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
國際的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
所以這些人才是很寶貴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
我想已經夠大到一個規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
我們應該讓它可以自轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
所以然後橫向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
這個交流其實有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
創新會產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
其實我們總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7858.69 |
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7860.69 |
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包括所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7860.69 |
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7862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
NGO的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
這些都列為重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
就是希望說能夠整合民間的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
這些人才是在跨領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
我們也希望號召人才來投考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
外交寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7872.69 |
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7874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
因為優秀的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7876.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
他覺得台灣現在的國力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7876.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
還有我們在國家的形象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7880.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
在國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
我們可以很受感 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7883.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
我本身是念政治系 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7885.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7887.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
我們發現那個時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7887.04 |
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7889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
很多人都是青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7889.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7891.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
報國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7891.04 |
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7893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
去投考外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
我也希望說帶動起來大家的熱情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
讓台灣因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
年輕人願意去做外交工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
能夠走向國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
讓世界能夠走入台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
當然他們以外交體系的期盼來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7919.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7933.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7935.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
外交部的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7937.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
這個我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7939.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
有賴跨部會的一個努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
國安委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7943.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
像外交替代役 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7945.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
後來進入國火會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7947.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
有很多人生的志願因此改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
相當豐富的一個領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7951.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
為什麼最近外交替代役 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
因為我們希望能夠不只保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7955.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
還能夠擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7957.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
包括無人機的飛手訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
現在在帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這些如果在國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7963.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
有個一年時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7966.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
那我覺得台灣在走向外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7966.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7970.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
因為我們的這個正式的外交空間受到壓縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7970.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
這種比較有創意的非傳統式的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7975.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
那事實上是透過我們全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7975.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7978.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
在各個領域都能夠走向國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7978.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7980.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
所以剛剛確實從青年時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7980.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7982.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
我們就要培養更多的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7982.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
來參與國際事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7985.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
對 我在這邊放的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7985.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
有一個國際青年大使的交流計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7988.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
就跟剛剛部長回的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7988.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7989.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這個非常類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7989.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7991.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
這個就是一個很好的循環機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7991.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
那不過剛剛部長提到一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7993.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7994.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
我覺得也是蠻重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7994.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7996.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
就是說因為現在就是這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7996.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
sub-state這種diplomacy |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7998.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7999.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
變得越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7999.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
8001.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
就是城市的外交變得很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
8001.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
8003.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
那現在中國就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
8003.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
8005.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
我們現在以外交部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
8005.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
8006.62 |
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我們都知道就是說 |
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8006.62 |
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8008.62 |
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中國可能像我們之前在講2758啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
8008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
8009.46 |
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等等之類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
8009.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
8010.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
它有這種非常整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
8010.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
8012.46 |
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針對這個國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
8012.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
8014.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
然後希望他們要怎麼發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
8014.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
8016.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
然後我們要怎麼去應對中國的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
8016.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
8018.22 |
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但因為中國的打壓還有另外一種就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
8018.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
8020 |
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它在城市的層級 |
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8020 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
8022 |
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就是它還沒有直接上升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
8022 |
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8023.4 |
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那個中央的層級 |
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8023.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
8025.4 |
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那我們最近也遇到有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
8025.4 |
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8026.4 |
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國外的城市 |
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8026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
8027.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
它可能在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
8027.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
8029.4 |
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就是因為中國的施壓之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
8029.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
8031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
可能在吃了台灣豆腐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
8031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
8033.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
什麼等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
8033.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
8035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
那在這一個層級的時候對我們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
8035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
8037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
畢竟外交部它管的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
8037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
8038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
比較中央層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
8038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
8040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
剛剛有講到其實我們現在在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
8040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
8042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
辦事處越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
8042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
8044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
現在美國有沒有14個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
8044.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
8046.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
14個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
8046.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
8048.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
因為現在我們會遇到很多就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
8048.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
8049.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
它在州的層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
8049.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
8051.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
在城市的層級來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
8051.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
8053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
那剛剛部長提到的這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
8053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
8054.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
其實就變得特別的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
8054.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
8056.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
因為我們變成我們要很綿密 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
8056.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
8058.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
不是只有在最高層級要應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
8058.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
8060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
我們在州的層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
8060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
8062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
在城市的層級現在都要去應對對方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
8062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8063.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
這樣的一個打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8063.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8065.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
那所以這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8065.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8066.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
市民的外交啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8066.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8067.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
國民的外交啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8067.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8069.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
這一種其實就變得相形重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8069.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8072.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
不過我現在比較擔心的事情就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8072.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8074.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
剛剛部長也有提到現在在推這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8074.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8076.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
青年NGO大使計畫嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8076.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8078.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
我們想要去搶這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8078.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8080.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
話語權啊什麼等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8080.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8082.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
但是因為就是對方現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8082.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8084.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
在打壓的層級我剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8084.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8085.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
眾生變多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8085.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8087.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
那但是呢我們現在呢就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8087.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8088.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
我這次看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8088.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8090.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
我們的媒體政策的業務宣導費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8090.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8092.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
是統三五十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8092.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8094.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
然後國外的旅費和這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8094.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8096.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
出國訓練費統三七十啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8096.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8098.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
三十或十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8098.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8100.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
裡面外交部遇到的是十這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8100.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8102.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
喬委會等一下是七十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8104.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
這個對我來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8108.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
我覺得這個是在我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8108.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8110.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
我們現在面臨的困境之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8110.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
這個會變得有點麻煩耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
所以不知道現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8116.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
然後現在八月又要再送明年度的總預算嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8116.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8118.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
因為我可能會遇到這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8118.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
那現在我想問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
那等一下也想問委員長就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8122.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
我們現在應該要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8122.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8124.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8123.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8125.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
這確實會有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8125.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8127.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
因為全世界現在都想跟台灣交往 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8127.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8129.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
我們很久的出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8129.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8131.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
要把握時機啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8131.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8133.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
那當然因為預算刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8133.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8135.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
當然我們也是要依照這個來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8135.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8137.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8137.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8139.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8139.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8141.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
媒體宣傳費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8141.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8143.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
我們就多有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8143.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
要有一些亮點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8147.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
透過什麼樣的方式可以擴大宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8147.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8149.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
所以我們那個國傳師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8149.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8151.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
包括我們公眾會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8151.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8153.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
還有包括我們各個單位其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8153.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8155.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
要發揮創意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8155.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8157.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
其實更有效果的達到國際宣傳的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8157.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8159.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
即使預算收到刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8159.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8161.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
那另外就是因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8161.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8163.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
包括邀訪只要來過台灣的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8163.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8165.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
無不稱讚台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8165.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8167.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
我想立委在接觸這個團裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8167.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8169.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
所以怎麼樣廣泛的邀訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8169.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8171.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
派人出去尤其是年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8171.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8173.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
那剛剛委員講了一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8173.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8175.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
其實中國現在在全世界包括孔子學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8175.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8177.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
大家都知道他都是有統戰目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8177.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8179.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
所以中國現在是往年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8179.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8181.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
到城市下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8181.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8183.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
然後招待非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8183.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8185.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
所以現在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8185.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8187.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
也有警覺到這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8187.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8189.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
包括對台灣也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8189.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
青年工作變成他們現在的統戰的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8193.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
所以我們在青年的交流上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8193.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8195.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
必須要加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8195.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8197.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
然後不管是雙向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8197.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8199.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
我們出去後他們進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8199.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8201.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
也不只是政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8201.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8203.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
我想所有的各個領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8203.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8205.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
包括你剛剛講城市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8205.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
或者是說文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8209.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
科技各種的外交領域 |
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8211.67 |
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讓他全面性的去對接 |
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8211.67 |
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8213.67 |
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我覺得這是總和外交 |
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8213.67 |
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8215.67 |
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我們希望能夠去把他連結起來 |
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8217.67 |
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當然這些人才 |
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8219.67 |
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台灣已經有一些年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
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有趣於外交 |
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有一些可能是網紅 |
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8225.67 |
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就做了很多記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8225.67 |
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8227.67 |
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產生的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8227.67 |
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8229.67 |
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包括我們去年在辦大阪師婆的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8229.67 |
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8231.67 |
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我們很有限的預算100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8231.67 |
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8233.67 |
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辦了一個真球短影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8233.67 |
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8235.67 |
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就Fighting Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8235.67 |
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8237.67 |
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那個來的產品各國世界的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8237.67 |
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8239.67 |
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年輕人都來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8239.67 |
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8241.67 |
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所以我們可能要用更有創意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8241.67 |
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8243.67 |
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跟效果的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8243.67 |
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8245.67 |
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當然委員希望比如說有一些是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8245.67 |
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8247.67 |
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因為有時候還是需要在主流媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8247.67 |
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8249.67 |
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有一些刊登什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8249.67 |
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8251.67 |
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這個時候預算就會不足以遲疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8251.67 |
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8253.67 |
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就沒有辦法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8253.67 |
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8255.67 |
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所以這個50%我認為影響還是很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8255.67 |
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8257.67 |
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因為當然我們是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8257.67 |
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8259.67 |
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我們有一些有創意的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8259.67 |
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8261.67 |
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就像剛剛部長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
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8263.67 |
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現在面臨對方的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8263.67 |
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8265.67 |
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有時候光是用創意的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8265.67 |
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8267.67 |
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一定是有不足夠的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8267.67 |
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8269.67 |
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所以我們是很希望外交部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8269.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8271.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
多多的讓國民知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8271.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8273.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
現在這一種統戰造成大家的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8273.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8275.67 |
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因為委員長也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8275.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8277.67 |
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我想說是不是也能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8277.67 |
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8279.67 |
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因為現在僑委會面臨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8279.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8281.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
不只是只有媒體業務學團費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8281.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8283.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
還包含國外的旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8283.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8285.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
出國訓練費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8285.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8287.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8287.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
我們僑委會跟外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
最重要的目標就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
就是要到國外建立這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8295.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
對 陳委員我們的服務對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8295.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8297.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
因為都是在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8297.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8299.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
所以如果我們沒有了這些旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8299.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8301.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
我們就會變成對所有海外僑胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8301.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8303.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8303.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8305.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
善盡到我們該盡的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8305.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8307.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
其實這個費用不單是我在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8307.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8309.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
還包括我們駐外的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8309.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8311.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
他們有時候要去轄防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8311.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8313.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
他們要去很多監俠國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8313.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8315.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
都是要用同樣這一筆旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8315.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8317.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
所以我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8317.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8319.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8319.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8321.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
事實上我們的預算被刪了七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8321.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8323.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
六成 但我們已經都執行了八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8323.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8325.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
這樣的狀況下我們等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8325.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8327.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
從九月開始就沒有錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8327.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8329.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
就零 那我們的沒宣預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8329.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8331.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
根本不叫沒宣預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8331.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8333.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
我們只是維持我們官網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8333.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8335.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
基本的運作 這種錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8335.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8337.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
我們連中共的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8337.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8339.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
零點零一趴的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8339.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8341.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
都不到 所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8341.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8343.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
作為政府部門我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8343.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8345.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
應該要有基本的告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8345.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8347.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
人民足夠資訊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8347.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8349.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
義務 所以這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8349.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8351.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
義務直接的被預算砍掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8351.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8353.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
我認為這個是對人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8353.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8355.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
非常大的傷害 以上報告謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8355.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8357.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
對 因為我之前在質詢過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8357.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8359.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
蠻多次的時候其實也一直都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8359.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8361.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
官網的重要性 因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8361.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8363.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
官網算是我們傳遞知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8363.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8365.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
還有傳遞這些訊息非常重要的媒介 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8365.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8367.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
所以那時候我還特別講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8367.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8369.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
官網的辟謠要怎麼做啊等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8369.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8371.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
我們在國防外交委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8371.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8373.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
那今天假設我們今天立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8373.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8375.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
也有一些外交任務 假設我們有外交任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8375.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8377.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
大家跟你講說你不能出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8377.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8379.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
那我要怎麼做外交任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8379.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8381.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
那這是很簡單的道理嘛 他說你有網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8381.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8383.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
就把你的官網的費用也把它拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8383.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8385.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
那你網路你這個也打不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8385.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8387.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
你實體也出不去 然後國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8387.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8389.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
現在面臨的是中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8389.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8391.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
打壓 我覺得這是一件很過分的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8391.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8393.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
就是說上禮拜五一直到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8393.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8395.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
其實我覺得我對這件事情還是感到非常的氣憤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8395.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8397.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
就是我們已經延宕三百多天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8397.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
然後不審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8401.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
到今年再審今年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8401.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8403.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
這已經夠扯了 但更扯的事情就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8403.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8405.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
它完全是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8405.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8407.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
在精準的打擊我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8407.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8409.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
外交體系 我覺得這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8409.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8411.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
不能夠接受的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8411.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
那就是也是要拜託外交部跟僑委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8415.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
在這個艱困的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8415.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
我們現在也只能用創意的方式然後慢慢來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8419.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
但我覺得這個這絕對不是根本自原之道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8419.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8421.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
但是就是希望外交部跟僑委會能夠撐住 |
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謝謝 |
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好 謝謝 |
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我們接下來 |
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8431.45 |
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請林楚英委員上台諮詢 |
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8445.39 |
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謝謝主席 主席有請徐家慶委員長 |
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8445.39 |
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好 請徐委員長 |
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徐委員早安 |
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請徐委員請 |
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請徐委員請 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8572.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8576.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8578.6 |
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8580.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8580.6 |
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8582.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8582.6 |
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8584.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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請徐委員請 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8588.6 |
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8590.6 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8590.6 |
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8592.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8592.6 |
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8594.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8594.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8596.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8596.6 |
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8598.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8598.6 |
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8600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8600.6 |
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8602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8602.6 |
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8604.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8604.6 |
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8606.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8606.6 |
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8608.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8612.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8612.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8614.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8614.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8616.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8616.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8618.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8618.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8620.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8620.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8622.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8622.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8624.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
請徐委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8624.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
請徐委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8632.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8632.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8634.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8638.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8638.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8640.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8640.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8642.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8642.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8646.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8646.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8648.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8648.6 |
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8650.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8650.6 |
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8652.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8654.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8654.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
請徐委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8636.79 |
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8638.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8638.79 |
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8640.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8640.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
請徐委員請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8644.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8646.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
請徐委員請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8650.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8650.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
請徐委員請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8660.79 |
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8668.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8670.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
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8670.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
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8680.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
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8688.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
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8688.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
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8692.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8700.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8700.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8702.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
請徐委員請 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
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8710.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
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8710.79 |
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8712.79 |
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8714.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
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8716.79 |
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8722.79 |
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8724.79 |
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8726.79 |
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8728.79 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
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8730.79 |
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8732.79 |
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8734.79 |
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8740.79 |
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8740.79 |
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8742.79 |
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請徐委員請 |
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8742.79 |
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8744.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8744.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8746.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8746.79 |
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8748.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
請徐委員請 |
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8748.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
你知道我們立法院當中有多少個立委成立的這種所謂國際交流的或是國外交流的聯誼會 |
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8755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
我知道好像有三四十個吧 |
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8758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
不止 其實截至6月12號為止有114個 |
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8762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8766.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
那比我們外交駐外的管束還多啊 |
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8770.79 |
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而其中有87個是有國會聯誼的公用 |
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8770.79 |
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8772.79 |
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所以國會外交非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
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所以說我認為啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
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8777.79 |
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現在台灣以台灣面對中國這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8777.79 |
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8780.79 |
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其實外交不止外交部正式offical的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
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8783.79 |
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包括僑委會經營台商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8783.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8784.79 |
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甚至於台僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8786.79 |
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而立法院其實就是經營國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8786.79 |
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8788.79 |
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就以本席看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8788.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8791.79 |
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其實你見的這兩位法國的國會議員剛好也是我的好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8791.79 |
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8793.79 |
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他們都特別提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8793.79 |
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8795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
比如說像Helen她就提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8799.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
台灣跟中國美國跟歐洲之間的關係其實是要深化交換意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8799.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8801.79 |
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而另外我這位好朋友Cardi |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8801.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8803.79 |
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她更提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8803.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8806.79 |
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中國是透過亞洲其他鄰近的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8806.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8811.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
透過經濟脅迫的方式來構成對台灣的施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8811.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8814.79 |
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但是就像剛剛我特別為什麼要你來舉例就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8814.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8818.79 |
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知不知道現在台商被中國滲透的很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8818.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8820.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
甚至於把名單交出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8820.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8824.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
這個對於台商國外來講是非常危險的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8824.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
對您提到歐洲地區尤其滲透的非常嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8830.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
而在我們台灣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8830.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8833.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
我認為其實國人可能沒有感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8833.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8836.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
但我們都知道啦AI假影片也非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8836.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
本席呢上網去囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8838.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
發現既然也有你的AI假影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8845.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
然後操作你假考察真旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8845.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8847.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
然後再來帶風向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8847.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8851.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
我認為其實這個部分都是跟中國的滲透有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8851.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
我想認知作戰一直持續不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8857.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
而且這個煙囂早就已經開打 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8857.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
那我們在面對這樣的一個處境裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8864.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
除了持續加強提供國人更多有用的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8864.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8866.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
破解這些迷思之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8866.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8871.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
當然我們也要更進一步做更多的這個組織聯繫的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8871.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8875.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
尤其近年來我們有觀察到中共在海外的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8875.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8878.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
已經不再是過去傳統模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8878.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8885.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
只是拉攏部分這個立場比較接近的政治的這些團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8885.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8890.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
事實上他們現在已經逐漸的往台派的各種團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8890.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8892.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
不斷的在邀約滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8892.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8896.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
最新的做法是他直接說我要頒一個什麼獎給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8896.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8898.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
然後你請你來跟我們領獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8898.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8902.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
然後我們有些台商或者有些喬教的資深工作者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8902.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8906.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
奇怪了我在你們本來就已經會頒獎給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8906.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8908.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
我幹嘛去領中國的獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8908.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
但是他們用這樣的方式企圖去收買人心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8917.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
希望把我們原來所組織的這一些網絡一個一個要拔掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8917.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8920.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
所以這樣子的步步進逼已經是迫在眉睫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8920.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8925.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
所以我想這些AI身為的影片一定會推陳出新 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8925.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8929.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
不斷的就每一次政治攻防的時候就會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8929.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8932.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
但是我相信台灣作為一個民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8932.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
我們還是會有試圖能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8938.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
而且我們也要強化我們所有不同generation |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8938.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8941.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
不管是資深公民或者是年輕一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8941.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8946.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
大家都能夠辨識這個AI身為的認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8946.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8948.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
對我們社會的破壞跟影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8948.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8952.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
謝謝委員給我這個機會有機會來詳細說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8952.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8956.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
好本期要特別提出來的就是像這種的攻擊就是讓你卻步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8956.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8958.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
讓你自斷手腳不敢出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8958.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8961.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
然後認為說好像有攻擊就畏懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8961.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8966.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
像這樣的做法其實就是希望你不要走出國門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8966.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8971.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
然後去把這個所謂的僑民或者是僑團把他鞏固起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8971.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8975.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
我要提醒的是我一再的提到現在他們的手法手段當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8975.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8978.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
不只是透過金錢甚至於是滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8978.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8983.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
甚至於是把我們原本現存的屬於台派的支持中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8983.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8988.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
台灣的這樣的勢力感出原本他自己創立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8988.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8989.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
不論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8990.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8994.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
相關的就是所謂的商業的或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8994.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8999.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
文化連結的或是相關的教育的把原本的創辦人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8999.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
9002.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
然後透過翻群的方式把人趕走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
9002.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
9004.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
而這樣的滲透是非常恐怖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
9004.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
9008.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
所以我還是要支持的是你要勇敢的走出國門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
9008.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
9012.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
到我們的朝界去持續的穩住台商台橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
9012.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
9014.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
這個對我們來講非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
9014.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
9017.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
謝謝謝謝委員我會盡我最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
9022.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
9024.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
好下面請馬文君委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
9027.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
9029.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
OK 馬文君 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
9032.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
9035.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
謝謝主席麻煩請徐委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
9036.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
9037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
9038.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
9039.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
徐委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
9042.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
9043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
馬召委長安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
9043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
9044.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
委員長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
9044.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
9048.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
剛剛其實委員大概也都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
9048.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
9053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
就我們秋委會在對外的這些任務上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
9053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
9055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
其實這幾年我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
9055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
9058.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
在跟過去比起來秋委會的預算是增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
9058.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
9059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
9059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
9063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
基本上大家都是傾向支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
9063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
9066.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
可是當發生有什麼樣的爭議事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
9066.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
9069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
或者應該要怎麼樣去說明解釋的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
9069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
9073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
我想沒有必要用這些相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
9073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
9078.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
當然我們在過去可能在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
9078.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
9082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
比如說跟前兩任委員長比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
9082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
9087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
疫情期間同政員前委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
9087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
9089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
他因為只出過一趟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
9089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
9091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
所以他花不到百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
9091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
9094.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
在疫情前有落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
9094.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
9095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
聽我講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
9095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
9096.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
9097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
9099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
疫情前吳欣欣委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
9099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
9101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
她四年花了1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
9101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
9103.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
她也是不到一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
9103.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
9106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
我想如果要做好橋委會的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
9106.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
9109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
我們政務官其實最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
9109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
9111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
她的政策目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
9111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
9115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
除了開疆闢土也要推動新的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
9115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
9118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
目前面臨中共很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
9118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
9120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
不管她是打壓拉攏 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
9120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
9122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
或者用什麼樣的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
9122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
9124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
或者什麼樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
9124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
9127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
可能這個本來我們都自以心知肚明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
9127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
9130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
我們也非常清楚都會受到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
9130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
9133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
打壓跟拉攏跟攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
9133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
9134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
可是我們應該要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
9134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
9137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
這是大家支持預算的一個很重要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
9137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
9139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
到底應不應該出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
9139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
9143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
這個部分要看我們在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
9143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
9148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
我們是不是有得到應有的這些效果跟成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
9148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
9150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
因為我們看到僑務工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
9150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
9153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
要提出怎麼樣更新更有見解的施政方針 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
9153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
9155.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
而不是只是出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
9155.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
9157.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
因為如果在一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
9157.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
9160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
那你面對全世界其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
9160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
9162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
我們有橋委會的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
9162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
9163.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
你能夠做到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
9163.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
9166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
這個部分不是光是出國就可以做到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
9166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
9169.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
所以我們現在要看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
9169.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
9172.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
他實質的政策效益跟成果到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
9172.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
9175.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
人民會感受到你花納稅錢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
9175.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
9177.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
是有什麼樣的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
9177.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
9179.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
這才是我們在監督預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
9179.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
9180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
所要做的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
9181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
9184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
那這個部分因為像這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
9184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
9188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
今天大概本來沒有討論到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
9188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
9191.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
不過因為在今年的預算審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
9191.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
9194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
也因為委員長特別有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
9194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
9196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
你有不得不走的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
9196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
9198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
然後有不得不見的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
9198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
9204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
所以我們為了僑委會把5月20號才審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
9204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
9207.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
這也本席也被民進黨團攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
9207.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
9209.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
說我故意拖延預算的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
9209.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
9210.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
稍微的期住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
9210.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
9213.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
所以我們也希望就這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
9213.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
9216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
當委員長要出國的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
9216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
9218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
這個部分其實在審查預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
9218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
9221.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
我相信大家沒有特別的為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
9221.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
9224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
可是如果還要花很多的心思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
9224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
9227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
在這裡討論這樣子的一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
9227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
9229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
我覺得這接下來的預算審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
9229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
9231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
大家可能會有更多的攻防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
9231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
9234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
我們希望看到的是我們實質的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
9234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
9238.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
因為讓我們面對有這麼多的一些對岸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
9238.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
9240.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
他更多的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
9240.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
9243.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
我們沒有辦法跟他比資源的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
9243.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
9245.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
你就必須要有一個新的做法跟政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
9245.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
9248.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
這是我們本席要在這裡提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
9248.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
9252.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
所以這個部分我們也請在後續怎麼樣提出這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
9252.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
9254.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
謝謝 稍微的指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
9254.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
9255.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
9257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
9260.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
這個部分我們後續如果還有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
9260.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
9263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
我們在新的那個預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
9263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
9268.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
我們希望不要把它放在這種政治攻防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
9268.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
9271.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
我們要的是它實質的意義跟價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
9271.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
9273.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
現在預算都已經過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
9273.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
9275.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
所以就這個部分我們期待委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
9275.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
9278.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
在新的這些做法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
9278.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
9280.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
會在這個基礎上繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
9280.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
9281.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
9281.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
9283.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
好 接下來我們請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
9283.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
9284.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
9291.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
9292.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
9292.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
9294.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
9294.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
9298.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
部長 剛剛其實局委員有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
9298.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
9302.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
就是說我們近期可能有一些外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
9302.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
9306.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
它不管是有一些相關的事件發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
9306.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
9308.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
尤其是霸凌的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
9308.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
9312.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
那我們也看到可能剛剛也提到大概有十件左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
9312.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
9316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
可是有一些見報或者大家覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
9316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
9318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
已經比較有嚴重的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
9318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
9321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
這個部分我們希望外交部可以去正視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
9321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
9329.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
因為包括像過去資深的這個外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
9329.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
9331.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
也擔任過外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
9331.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
9333.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
也是我們國安會的秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
9333.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
9334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
就是李大維 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
9334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
9337.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
他在回憶錄的部分他也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
9337.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
9339.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
其實很多駐外館處的主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
9339.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
9343.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
他跟土皇帝的這種表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
9343.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
9346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
其實真的是現象還滿普遍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
9346.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
因為只要外交部他有一個流傳的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9353.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
就是飛機的輪子一拉起來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9357.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
人就變不一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9357.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9360.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
因為在外面畢竟天高皇帝遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9360.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9365.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
我們所有的層層的主管沒有辦法一一的去掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9365.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9367.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
其實他又是一個比較封閉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9367.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9369.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
我們在所有駐外館處裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9369.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9371.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
其實他的人員並不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9371.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9373.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
大家是非常的辛苦沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9373.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9377.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
可是在底下基層的這些外交人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9377.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
其實他們的工作更辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9383.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
因為所有大大小小的事情都是由他們要來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9383.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
所以就這幾個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們在這裡還是要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
因為包括像我們看到比較嚴重的幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9395.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
像日內瓦辦事處這個都可以拒免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9395.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9398.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
剛剛有提到說拒免或不拒免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9398.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9399.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
不過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9401.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9403.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
他真的可以得到解決嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9403.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
這是大家擔心的剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9407.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
其實他是比較封閉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9407.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9411.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
而且是比較小眾的辦事的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9411.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9413.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
所以他如果拒免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9413.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
萬一如果沒有獲得一個很好的處理或解決的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9422.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
對他們未來是有很大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9422.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
這是大家為什麼不敢拒免的一個很重要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
剛剛部長也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9427.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
如果不拒免其實我們還是會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9432.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
我們更希望其實是更用審慎的態度去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9432.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9434.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
如果大家會提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9434.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9435.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
因為像過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9436.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9439.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
在早期的年代我們提到教育好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9439.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9441.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
以前老師那種打罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9441.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
掉起來打或者騰條怎麼抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
那時候好像時空見慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9448.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
回去還會挨父母的打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9448.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
可是現在連責罵已經都不行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9453.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
所以像我們現在霸凌的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9453.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
應該要怎麼樣去拿捏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9457.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
甚至我們先舉幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9457.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9461.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
就是日內瓦辦事處現在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9461.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
可能必須要做比較審慎的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
另外駐美代表余大雷夫婦的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9471.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
我們好像也沒有特別說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9471.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9473.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
有什麼樣的情況發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9473.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
可是事實上在有這麼多的人員調職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
或者更換的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9483.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
或者其他相關大家都已經提出一些市政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9483.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9489.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
我們還有另外就是在駐巴西聖保羅辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9489.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9493.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
就是王組長墜樓身亡的這個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9493.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9495.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
當時外交部我們在查查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9495.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9497.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
也說霸凌沒有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9497.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9500.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
可是事實上到最後可能處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9500.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9503.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
他是被依貪污治罪條例起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9503.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9505.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
他被起訴這過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9505.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9507.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
跟這個組長其實也是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9507.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
事件是相關聯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9512.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
是不是有在和消的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9512.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
有被做不當的要求等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9514.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
那這些其實在在都顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
我們當時在處理這個霸凌的這個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9524.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
也是也是委外的這些專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9524.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
可是他們卻沒有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
我們看到這麼多還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9533.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
另外就是今年在4月份駐波士頓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9533.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9537.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
台北經濟辦事處這個處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9537.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9540.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
這個也是長期霸凌部署的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9541.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9543.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
我想這些都是有見報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9543.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9545.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
而且都有受到高度的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9545.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9548.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
可是我們幾乎都沒有成立的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9548.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9552.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
那還有人敢好好的去做這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9552.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9556.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
提出或相關的這些申訴嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9558.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
報告委員因為現在所謂霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
這些是違法行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9566.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
我們當然透過教育要讓我們的同仁都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9566.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9568.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
那怎麼營造好的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9568.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9572.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
然後改善過去不良的工作文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9572.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9576.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
那當然我們必須要把法律上面的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9576.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
對同仁的保障做好包括申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9582.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
那另外是有一些怎麼樣去讓工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9582.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9585.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
可以減少這種高壓下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9585.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
的一種對人的不尊重甚至霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
那我說整體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
當然要與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
那因為那個環境我們怎麼去改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9597.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
它要有一個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9597.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
所以我們就建立了當然職場的一些就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
去的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
那我們讓大家信任我們外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
即使你是居民或是沒有居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
只要是有事實我們都會辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
但是我們會保密 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
那在這個時候如果一個我們過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
駐外的館長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9620.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
比如說或者是長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9621.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9623.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
也許過去這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9623.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9626.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
這個平行式的一些作風現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9626.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9628.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
要很容易我要去教育他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9628.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9630.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
然後也要有一個申訴管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9630.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9632.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
最後還是要改善整個工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9632.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9634.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
讓大家不要隨時處於一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9634.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
就是一種非常高壓的一種人際關係下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9638.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9639.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
我們現在要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9641.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
今天如果有同仁提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9643.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9645.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
表示他們覺得受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9645.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9648.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
那這些影響都必須要去重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9648.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9652.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
因為如果我們全部都不成立的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9652.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9654.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
會讓人家覺得這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9654.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9658.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
有更大的一個勢力在保護他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9658.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9660.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
因為所以他可以更肆無忌憚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9660.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9662.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
因為他怎麼做都沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9662.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
今天外交的業務在都是在國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9668.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
有很多外交的事務是非常繁雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9668.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9670.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
而且也沒有辦法真的沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9670.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
像我們說愛朝九晚五 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
或者有什麼樣的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9678.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
應該要怎麼樣去做這些協調工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9678.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9680.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
或者不應該有無理的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9680.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9683.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
所謂的無理要求是讓他們做違法的事情 |
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這已經非常愉悅的這個本分 |
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這可能也不是說過去的習慣怎麼樣 |
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所以這個部分我們特別提出來 |
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我們也希望因為林部長您現在是 |
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外交部最高的這樣的主管 |
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你也是他們的大家長 |
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每一位他們在近來外交部服務 |
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都非常的不容易 |
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不是只有這些處長或所謂的館長 |
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還有更多的基層的這些外交人員 |
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其實他們在工作的場域都非常不容易 |
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你更應該要保護他們 |
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如果有外力介入的時候 |
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9722.55 |
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我想你更應該可以提供更大的肩膀 |
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9722.55 |
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9724.55 |
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這個部分我們要在這裡特別提出來 |
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9726.55 |
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另外再用一點點時間就是說 |
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我們這一次針對WTO |
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9729.55 |
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沒有辦法參加的事情 |
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9733.55 |
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依據外交部對外的新聞稿 |
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9733.55 |
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是說我們已經有嚴正抗議 |
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9736.55 |
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卡麥隆才正式我國以正確的身分尊嚴 |
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9739.55 |
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參與應有的權利 |
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而且我們繼續提出來 |
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9744.55 |
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9750.55 |
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所以我們代表團可以獲得豁免簽證的補救措施 |
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9750.55 |
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可是到最後 |
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9751.55 |
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9756.55 |
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卡麥隆提出了這些補救的措施以後 |
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9758.55 |
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我們還是沒有參加 |
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9758.55 |
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9760.55 |
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我想要請教到底為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9761.53 |
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因為他那個名字錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
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9766.53 |
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我們的駐WTO他的綜合判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9766.53 |
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9769.53 |
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會是要求更改說會來不及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9769.53 |
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9771.53 |
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當時OTN也有正題他的判斷 |
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有多少人錯 |
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還有幾個是對的 |
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就一個是對的 |
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9778.53 |
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其他名字都是物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
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9782.53 |
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那物質他沒有辦法及時去修正嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
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9785.53 |
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因為民國物質其實不是很困難的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9785.53 |
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因為往返需要飛機時間等等 |
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9787.53 |
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9789.53 |
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他們的判斷是屬於已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9789.53 |
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9792.53 |
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幾乎是來不及的時間 |
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9792.53 |
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9795.53 |
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部長我在這裡要特別提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9795.53 |
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9799.53 |
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他已經是有豁免簽證的這些文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9799.53 |
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9801.53 |
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他現在我們用的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9801.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9804.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
我們有一些錯誤資訊的這些文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9804.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9806.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
要進入卡麥隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9806.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9808.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
我想這個部分我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9808.53 |
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9811.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
這要及時去修正都沒有很大的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9811.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9813.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
可是我們去選擇沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9813.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9816.53 |
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這個通盤評估聽起來好像就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9816.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9819.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
黃昭元大使他的決定 |
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9819.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9822.53 |
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所以他到底有沒有衡量 |
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9822.53 |
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9824.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
到底有沒有衡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9824.53 |
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9826.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
WTO沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9826.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9827.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
這是我們自己選擇的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9827.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9829.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
我們跑都飛都要到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9829.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9833.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
所以我們出席就是我們才是正正的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9833.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9835.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
我要提醒一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9835.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9837.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
因為有一個你剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9837.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9839.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
至少有一個他的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9839.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9841.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
他所有的資料是正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9841.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
那一個也可以代表我們出席這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9847.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
因為我們每年編了非常高額的運算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9847.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9848.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
參加WTO |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9848.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9853.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
而且WTO是我們目前唯一可以很正式的發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9853.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
一個重要的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
可是我們卻選擇沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9856.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9859.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
而且是第一次選擇沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9859.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9862.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
我們在所有的這些場域底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9862.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9864.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
我們是怎麼樣評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9864.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9866.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
他的輕重輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9866.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9868.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
其實我覺得好像這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9868.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9870.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
這個由個人的那個選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9870.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
會判斷犧牲掉我們一個很大的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
所以這個部分我們要求在未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
因為這個是非常遺憾的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9883.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
今天如果說有一個助團的大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9883.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9886.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
他因為他8月底會回來對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9889.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
8月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9889.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9894.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
還要陪同海基跟貝爾斯的大使要回台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9894.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9901.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
所以我們的外交部的預算其實也沒有什麼匱乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9901.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9903.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
他想要回來還是可以回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9903.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9907.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
黃教練大使有必要好好的對全體國人解釋說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9907.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9912.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
當我們一直關切國際經貿談判人才斷層之際 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9912.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9914.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
我們之前也發生了非常遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9914.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9919.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
就是我們的楊總談判代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9919.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9921.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
其實他的霸凌案是成立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9921.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9925.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
所以這個部分其實為什麼會受到重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9925.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9927.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
我相信部長也非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9927.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9929.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
那我們在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9929.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9934.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
我們選擇放棄台灣在國際經貿平台上面發生的結會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9934.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9937.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
我覺得這真的是造成非常大的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9937.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
而且也對我們未來可能也會造成衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9943.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
如果你一而再再而三 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9943.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
如果還有其他的主辦國也照這樣的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9947.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
那我們是不是都不參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9947.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
我們過去也常常在講說我們退出聯合國以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
我們的位置就被佔了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9955.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
如果我們現在採取這樣的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9955.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9959.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
我覺得對我們來說可能也會造成後續一個很大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9959.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
那這個部分有必要請黃大使回來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9964.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
也必須對國人說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9964.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9965.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
反正他要回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9965.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9967.46 |
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我稍微回應一下委員 |
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因為我也相當認同委員的意見 |
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對方有錯 |
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包括主辦國這個柯麥龍 |
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我們抗議也有效 |
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在這個時候當然我們要爭取抗議中參與 |
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那因為有一些程序上的問題 |
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我們就要全力來克服 |
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我認為台灣的外交處境很困難 |
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並不是對方打壓 |
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我們就抗議而已 |
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在抗議中要能夠去參與 |
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那要是不凸顯問題 |
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這可能會形成一些對不對 |
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對方就得寸進尺 |
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那我們也這次得到各國的支持 |
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因為這個發生在WTO |
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大家都覺得是很錯誤的事情 |
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所以我們是有道理啦 |
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可是怎麼樣在做法上 |
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如果時間上或者是說各種可能性 |
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我想這個是應該要做一些來檢視 |
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看怎麼樣能夠 |
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我們最重要的就是能夠參與 |
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國際很多的像這樣子的一個會議 |
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尤其WTO是非常不容易的 |
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這也是我們現在存在的一個 |
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最重要的一個組織 |
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所以如果說我們自己選擇退出不參與 |
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那未來他們其他就可以 |
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按照這樣的模式複製下去 |
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因為我們最重要的就是參與 |
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當你自己都沒有參與的時候 |
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用這樣的理由你下次還是會碰到 |
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所以這個部分我們這一次在這裡提醒 |
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是希望怎麼樣去應付或克服這樣的一個狀況發生 |
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而不是我們自己就不參加 |
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你如果說像我們因為民昌的關係 |
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我們台灣現在是簽證還有入境 |
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還有所有這些行政上的 |
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簽證跟入境在我們的技術上面 |
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其實它都是可以克服的 |
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當然我們自己也常常出國 |
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你即使一般平民老百姓要出國 |
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10077.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
有什麼樣可能有一些務實的時候 |
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其實他再做一個即時的調整就好了 |
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更何況剛剛你也提到 |
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我們還有人是正確的資訊 |
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如果他可以代表我們出席 |
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你就不應該放棄這樣的機會 |
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這是我們111的要求 |
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他們當然說明是因為時間上來不及 |
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即使他改過 |
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但是我認為說 |
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10094.74 |
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10096.74 |
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我們還是要盡一些可能 |
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10098.74 |
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去在抗議中參與 |
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10100.74 |
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他這個有錯 |
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10100.74 |
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10103.74 |
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我們是他這個打壓我們有錯 |
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10104.74 |
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我們抗議有效 |
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10104.74 |
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10107.74 |
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那這個中間地帶怎麼樣去積極參與 |
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10107.74 |
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10109.74 |
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就是委員剛剛提醒我們會來加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10109.74 |
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10111.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
部長對任何一個舉辦國來說 |
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10111.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10114.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
有錯對他們來說無關痛癢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10114.74 |
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10115.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
可是我們沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10115.74 |
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10118.74 |
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對我們來說是非常非常嚴重的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10118.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
這攸關我們在國際我們發生的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10122.74 |
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10124.74 |
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是 好 我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10128.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10130.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
我們下一位請王恩祥委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10140.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10141.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
好 感謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10141.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10142.3 |
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有請外交部林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10143.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
部長長 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
這個因為我過去在大學服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10156.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
所以今天這個專報的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10156.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10158.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
是特別有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10158.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
那我過去在學校裡面 |
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10159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10161.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
其實也非常贊成 |
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10161.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10164.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
這個送一些我們的大專的這個學生 |
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10164.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10167.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
集體去到國外去看看 |
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10167.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10169.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
這個國際的一些事務 |
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10169.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
其實對於這個他們對我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10174.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
本身國家在國際的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10174.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
我們的艱難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
其實有非常非常好的一個影響 |
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10178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10179.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
那他們回來之後 |
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10179.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10181.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
也是我覺得就是像部長說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10181.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10183.83 |
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就是人人都是外交官 |
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10183.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
部部都是外交官 |
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10184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
我覺得那個影響非常非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
所以我也非常贊成 |
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10188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
繼續要推動這樣的一個事務 |
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10190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10193.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
不過我們在這個做這件事情的時候 |
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10193.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10196.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
在找推學生到一些國際的組織去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10196.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10199.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
那也遭遇到一些打壓 |
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10199.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10202.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
那我想這個打壓是持續的 |
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10202.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10204.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
那在這個事件之前 |
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10204.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10205.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
我就問一下 |
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10205.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10206.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
因為最近這個有一個 |
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10206.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10207.83 |
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很重要的外交事件 |
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10207.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10209.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
就是摩洛哥 |
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10209.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10211.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
他好像跟以前這個 |
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10211.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10212.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
羅馬尼亞跟這個 |
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10212.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10214.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
好像也不大一樣 |
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10214.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10217.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
他好像停發我們的V-Share |
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10217.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10219.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
這事我們會再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10219.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10220.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
那部長這個 |
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10220.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10222.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
這個我想國安都很關切 |
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10222.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10224.83 |
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這個大家去北非 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10224.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10225.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
大概都去觀光很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10225.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10226.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
我剛好因為有朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10226.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10228.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
剛好就要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10228.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10231.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
剛好就沒辦法去到那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10233.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10235.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
繼續他這個旅途 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10235.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10236.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
不小心這個外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10236.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10238.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
先掌握摩洛哥這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10239.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10240.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
大概是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10240.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10242.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
我們要做什麼樣的處置嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10242.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10243.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10243.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10244.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10244.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
因為我們也持續在查證中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10248.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
這是因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10248.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
因為電子簽證的適用對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10251.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10253.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
是因為他在做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10253.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10254.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
而沒把我們納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10254.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10256.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
還是這麼有針對性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10256.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10258.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10258.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10262.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
我們還在做最後的這個確認當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10262.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10264.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
不過因為我們也表達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10264.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
我們的立場跟我們的這個抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10267.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10270.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
但是這個事情是技術性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10270.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10273.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
層面很高還是政治性的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10273.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10275.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
這個還有待最後的釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10275.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10277.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
那當然我們繼續對等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10277.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
就是外交就是對等跟互惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10283.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
我們同樣會對他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10283.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10286.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
有這樣子的一個就是說限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10286.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10288.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
對因為我有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10288.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10290.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
我們辦公室有試著去看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10290.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
大概有多少的人次到摩洛哥去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10293.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
因為很多都是觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10293.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10295.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
而且他可能透過轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10295.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10297.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
會被定能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10297.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
這個精準的掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10300.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
不過我們可以掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10300.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10302.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
摩洛哥入境我們台灣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10302.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
我覺得比例上可能會有很大的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10305.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
也就是說我們做這個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10305.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10307.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
可能不一定收到一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10307.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10309.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
當然外交是基於這個是基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10309.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10311.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
對等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10311.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
但是我們當然積極去協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10313.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10317.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
目前初步間接掌握的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10317.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10319.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
他們有一部分的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10319.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
是因為他們的這個電子簽證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
這適用對象沒有納入我國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
我們當然在協調爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
可是這是不是政治性的干涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10335.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
這當然也都不能夠排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10335.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10338.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
就是在這個時機我們會加快來做確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10338.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
但是在解決問題之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10343.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
我們只好先採取對等的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10343.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
對因為我剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10346.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
其實很多我們的國人是到那邊去觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10346.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
所以現在他們其實就有一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
就是我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10353.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
這個跟我剛剛說前面這個奧地利亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10353.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10355.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
那個好像有一些駕照的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10355.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10356.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
又不大一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10356.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10357.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
那不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10357.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
我不知道外交部這邊是不是要做一個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
讓國內人知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10363.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
如果真的發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10363.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10365.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
我很擔心他像電影一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10365.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10367.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
飛下來剛好就失效這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10367.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10371.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
我想目前發生的有幾個歷史是在非洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10371.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
10372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
10372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
10373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
因為中國當然在那邊的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
10373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
10374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
因為非洲54國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
10374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10377.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
那53個國都他的建交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10377.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
我們建交只有這個史瓦蒂尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10386.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
但是歐洲的情形基本上經過交涉之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10386.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10389.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
基本上他們都採取歐盟模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10389.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
是比較一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10393.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
那至於某個哥因為他在北非 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10393.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10397.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
可是又是國人旅遊很常去的這個地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10397.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
所以這個確實會有他對國人的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10401.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
那我們也在交涉當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10403.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
那目前透過其他國家也在幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10407.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
能夠確認到底對方這個新的措施是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10411.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10414.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
因為技術上的引述能夠來改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10414.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10418.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
那我們當然就相對會改變我們對他的一些限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10418.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10422.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
如果沒有的話當然這個事情就會成為一個外交事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10422.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10424.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
就是韓市情部長就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10424.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
因為我有一些朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10425.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
你說是不是有一些SOP也告訴他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10427.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10428.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10428.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
因為他們有些是拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10429.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10430.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
有些還沒拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
10430.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
10431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
有些還是身體中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
10431.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
10433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
他們這個不同的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
10433.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
10434.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
是不是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
10434.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
10436.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
告訴他們怎麼去處理這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
10436.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
10437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
好來這樣的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
10437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
10438.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
請他跟我們聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
10438.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
10440.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
我們應該都有這個窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
10440.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
10441.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
可以做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
10441.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
10442.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
10442.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
10444.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
我們再回到剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
10444.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
10447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
我們的青年大使的狀況的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
10447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
10450.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
因為我知道部長就有不同的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
10450.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
10452.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
成立一個青年大使協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
10452.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
10455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
那我前面有一些委員提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
10455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
10457.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
就是我們有做一些培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
10457.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
10459.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
或者常常參加一些我們的一些活動 |
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那這個人才困的部分 |
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現在大概狀況是怎麼樣 |
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好 |
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我們以幾種 |
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就是國際青年大使 |
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農業青年大使 |
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外交小尖兵 |
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還有參加過我們培訓的 |
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INGO的交流合作 |
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這個相當大的一個人才庫 |
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是 |
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那也累積了20幾年 |
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所以我們希望他們能夠來幫忙 |
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後續的更年輕的人能夠 |
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來參與國際交流 |
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大概是這個目的 |
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那有一些也因為這樣的過程 |
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他又進一步可能來報考外交官 |
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或因為參加我們國會的志工 |
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或技術團等等 |
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我們希望讓外交人才的流動深遷 |
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不是只有職業外交官這一鬼 |
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可是跟其他鬼之間 |
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也可能會產生交流 |
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這也是包括這樣大專青年 |
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很多人因為他一次性的參加這個活動 |
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他改變他的志向 |
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把他更投入到外交工作 |
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也許他因為剛進社會 |
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他必須要在職場上 |
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可是到一個程度之後 |
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10526.25 |
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他可能想到外交 |
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做一個職業外交官 |
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10529.25 |
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那我們都是歡迎 |
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10530.25 |
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剛剛委員講 |
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10532.25 |
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我們現在希望說是培養 |
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10532.25 |
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10534.25 |
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讓一些想進入外交領域的人 |
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至少我們像大學 |
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有一些合作計畫 |
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也可以來增補 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
讓這些人可以進行 |
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包括我們參加各種 |
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10545.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
我們的這些交流合作的計畫 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
剛剛前面王毓川委員他也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
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這個人才庫的那個 |
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就是重複性的狀況 |
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會不會很多人其實是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
過去是比較針對語言 |
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跟所謂的產業 |
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10557.25 |
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要求 |
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10559.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
我們現在其實很多元化 |
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10559.25 |
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包括像無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10562.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
像很多的理工科的這些東西 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10564.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
像我們龍幫計畫有八個旗艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10564.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10566.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
我們就針對這八個旗艦 |
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10566.25 |
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10568.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
比如說像智慧醫療跟鮮剛產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10568.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10571.25 |
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我們台灣非常多對於知通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10571.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10573.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
很了解的人到巴拉圭 |
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10573.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10575.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
巴拉圭為什麼把它建置成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10575.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
建立那麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
物美價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
經過將近十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
就是我們這些外交替代役 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
還有志工還有這些技術團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10586.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
其實是在幫他們建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10586.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
那我們不能講說 |
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10589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
因為他們基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
就是其實幫忙這些國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10594.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
建立電子化的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10596.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
是幫助非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10596.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10598.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
那個因為委員長 |
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10599.12 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10601.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
因為這邊有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10601.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10603.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
所謂的搭橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10603.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10604.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
其實看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10604.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10606.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
很多是台灣這邊的旗艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10606.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10607.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
這兩邊有沒有什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10607.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10609.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
大家的互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10609.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10610.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
搭橋計畫基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10610.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10612.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
就是台灣的大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10612.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10614.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
我們為了培育他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10614.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10616.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
有對國際的認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10616.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10618.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
以及對我們僑務的一些興趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10618.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10620.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
所以我們過去幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10620.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
特別從台灣的大學生裡面選拔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
他們都是外語能力非常優秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
而且也對台灣的認同度非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
他們也很願意去學習的這些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
所以他們到海外去 |
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10633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
事實上我們跟外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
都有一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
因為有很多的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
我們的學生也會去拜訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
然後我們也會請外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
幫我們協同去聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
我們當地的一些二級政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
或三級政府的拜會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
那這些學生去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
也會讓我們在國際的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
政府部門覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10652.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
哇你們台灣來的年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
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水準很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10653.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
可以很清楚的用外語 |
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10655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
跟他們侃侃而談 |
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10656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10657.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
所以我們這個也是一種 |
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10657.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
實質的國民外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
對所以我當然希望這些年輕人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
在這個外交部跟僑務會 |
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10664.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10665.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
這邊的一個努力下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10665.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
我們希望真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10667.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
以後這些年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10667.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10669.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
對我們的國際處境很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10669.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10671.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
這些未來的主人公 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10671.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10673.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
都是台灣的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10673.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
好感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10675.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
感謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10675.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
謝謝王委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10677.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10678.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10679.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10683.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
我們接下來請賴世寶委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10694.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10699.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
有請外交部的林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10709.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10710.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
來部長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10710.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10711.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
好你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10711.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10714.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
幾個問題不大不小的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10714.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10720.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
那最近看到其實日本的首相 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10720.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10721.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
要告訴早苗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10722.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
在那個靖國聲色外邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10728.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
沒有離太遠的地方等於遙跡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10728.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10730.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
可是他們的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10730.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10734.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
包括防長幾位閣員都進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10734.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10736.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10736.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10738.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
外界就解讀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10738.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10739.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
某種程度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10739.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10742.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
在高市早苗的領導之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10742.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10745.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
日本是不是逐漸的要恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10745.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10747.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
走向軍國主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10747.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
畢竟對於特別是在核武這一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
他原來有三不原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10756.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
不要生產不要運輸什麼之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10756.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10757.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10759.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10761.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
又加上他們的防長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10761.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10764.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
來去這個靖國聲色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10764.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10765.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
這是一個很敏感的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10765.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10767.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
特別在8月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10767.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10770.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
他是一個戰敗的紀念日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10770.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10773.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那麼他同篇沒有提到反省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10773.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10775.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
沒有提到過去來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10775.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10777.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
日本的首相都會提這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10777.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10780.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
他這次的高市沒有提到什麼反省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10780.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10781.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
好像他做錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10781.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10783.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
沒有他們就認為就這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10783.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10785.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
換言之我要強調一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10785.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10787.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
現在的日本首相 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10787.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10791.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
基本上他要改寫日本侵略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10791.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10795.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
奧戰的時候侵略世界各國的這個歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10795.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10796.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
他改寫這個歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10796.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10800.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
那結果韓國當然要大幅的抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10800.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10802.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
然後中國大陸也抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10802.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10804.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
台灣點幾次呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10804.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10806.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
兩次了尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10806.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10808.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
這兩個字尊重喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10810.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
我請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10810.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10812.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
你這個尊重什麼意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10813.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10815.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
我想外交部了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10815.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10818.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
這個日本社會對這些歷史議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10818.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10820.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
有多元的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10820.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10822.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
那所以我們當然也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10822.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10825.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
要不斷的去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10825.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10828.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
不要再重犯過去發動戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10828.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10830.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
這樣的罪行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10830.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10832.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
可是也要同時期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10832.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10834.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
共同來維護區域的和平和穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
10834.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
10837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
對當前我想台日的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
10837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
10840.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
我們也希望能夠就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
10840.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
10843.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
有助於我們區域的和平和穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
10843.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
10844.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
你知道在奧戰期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
10844.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
10846.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
我們台灣人死多少人你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
10850 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10852 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
要看你怎麼計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10852 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10853 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
你Google一下都有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10853 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10855 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
3萬多人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10855 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10856 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
有人講十幾萬啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10856 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10858 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
但是精準來講3萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10858 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10862 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
而且裡面被動員的人有20萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10862 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10863 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
那是他能夠很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10864.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
基本上來講的話奧戰期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10868.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
台灣是被日本奴隸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10868.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10870.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
台灣是被日本那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10870.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
所以台灣的地位尷尬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
日本的殖民地然後是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10876.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
戰敗國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10876.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10878.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
可是回到中華民國是戰勝國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10878.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
變這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10880.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
會有這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10880.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10882.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
那可是我們看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10883.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10886.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
看喔陳水扁是民進黨第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10886.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10888.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
當中華民國的總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10889.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10891.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
他對這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10891.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10893.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
的表現都比你們現在強硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10893.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10894.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
你們現在尊重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10894.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10896.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
尊重的意思什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10896.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10897.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
叫樂見其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10898.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10899.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
可以這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10899.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10901.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
可以對一個侵略國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10901.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10903.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
然後他的過去這樣侵略全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10903.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10906.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
造成世界這麼大的一個傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10906.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10909.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
然後他的首相居然現在來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10909.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10911.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
完全180度轉變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10911.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10913.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
變成是他們都沒有任何的錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10913.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10914.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
都是別人的錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10914.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10916.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
他們活該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
要被打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
變這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10920.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10921.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
他要改寫這樣歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10921.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
然後我們死了在那段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10924.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
最保守的估計是3萬人以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
然後我們都不敢講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
只有講兩個字叫尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10930.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10933.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
這個東西太軟弱了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10933.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
那個林部長太軟弱了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
你要知道馬政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10939.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
檢討跟反省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10939.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10941.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
來要反省啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10941.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
他都沒有反省啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10943.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10943.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10945.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
你要呼籲他要反省啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10945.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10947.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
你要想喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10947.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10949.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
馬政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10950.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10952.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
2008到2016年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10952.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10955.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
外交部總共發表了13篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10955.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10957.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
官方的文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10957.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10958.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
最少最少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10958.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
我們當然知道對日本關係很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10964.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
但最少都表示遺憾啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10965.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10967.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
還很客氣沒有講到抗議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10967.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
韓國是抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
中國大陸是抗議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10971.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
然後最少我們講個遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10971.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
然後民進黨執政政府都不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10975.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
遺憾這兩個字不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10975.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
都講尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
讓人家瞧不起啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10979.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
結果你可以看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10979.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
比較一下啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10981.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
我們對日本這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10982.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10986.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
在2011年日本的311地震 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10986.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
台灣捐了68.5億新台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
全球之冠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10993.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10995.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
反過來就是來講他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10995.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10997.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
當然我們是這個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10997.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10999.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
這個能杯幾杯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10999.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
11001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
我們當然是這個support |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
11001.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
11003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
代表我們對日本非常友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
11003.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
11007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
但是後來2024年台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
11007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
11009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
4月3號的花蓮地震 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
11009.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
11010.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
日本捐多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
11011.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
11012.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
幾千萬而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
11013.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
11014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
就是你會發現啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
11014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
11016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
我們有一點熱淋貼冷屁股啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
11016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
11017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
你不覺得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
11017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
11018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
然後以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
11018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
11020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
以前你的前面的外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
11020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
11023.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
吳釗燮說日本是我們的大格格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
11026.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
11027.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
有照顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
11027.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
11029.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
有照顧到你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
11029.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11031.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
包括最近的李應洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11031.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11033.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
他的座位也被欺負 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11033.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11034.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
就排在什麼什麼海 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11034.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11037.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
這個這個長期的什麼什麼活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11038.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11039.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
沒有他去廣島 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11039.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11042.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
他去廣島也有長期長期他就沒去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11042.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11043.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
廣島就是處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11043.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11045.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
長期他沒去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11045.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11047.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
他最後都排在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11047.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11048.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
就排在海外時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11048.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11050.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
排到很後面就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11050.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11052.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
就是說我們一直說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11052.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
台日多重要多重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11055.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11056.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11058.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
我告訴好幾個面向嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11058.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11060.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
你光捐款就差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11060.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11062.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
我們給68億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11062.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
然後他們給幾千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11064.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
都是大地震 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11064.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
差很多很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11066.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
你不覺得真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11070.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
真的是我們真的是一頭栽進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11070.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
然後我們的駐日代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11072.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
幾乎都變成幫助日本代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11074.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11076.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
變這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11076.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
很悲哀啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
我今天特別來跟你講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
看你現在也是軟趴趴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
不敢講什麼話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11084.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
面對日本不敢講那個的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11084.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11086.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
他們的首相越來越強硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11086.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11088.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
有那個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11088.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
要走向軍國主義的覆辟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11091.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11093.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
結果我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11094.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11095.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
基本上來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11095.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11096.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
還是等地氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11096.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11097.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
然後就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11097.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11099.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
尊重就是四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11099.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11100.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
樂見其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11100.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11101.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
四字樂見其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11103.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11106.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
發動戰爭的這個歷史要不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11106.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11108.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
你有沒有樂見其成啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11108.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11110.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
你是不是樂見其成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11110.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
他們的首相 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11114.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
可能不要概念轉換 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11114.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11116.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
好幾個層次的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11116.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11117.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
你尊重什麼意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11117.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11118.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
尊重你發表的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11118.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11120.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
你發表尊重什麼意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11120.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11121.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
尊重什麼意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11121.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11123.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
就是外交部瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11123.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11126.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
會對於這些重大的歷史議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11126.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11128.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
有多元的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11128.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11131.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
但是對歷史要不斷的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11131.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11132.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
反省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11132.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11134.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
請問日本的二戰是不是侵略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11134.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11135.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11135.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11136.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
當然他是侵略啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11136.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11137.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11137.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11138.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
那就不能講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11138.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11139.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
說尊重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11139.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11140.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
怎麼可以尊重呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11140.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11142.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
不是尊重侵略喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11142.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
是多元的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
因為現在他已經改變了過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
委員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11148.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
現在在談的是進國神社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11148.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11149.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
還是談二戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11149.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11151.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
兩個都談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11151.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
這不太一樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11153.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
因為第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11153.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
我想第二個是進國神社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11157.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
第一個先談首相 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11157.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11160.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
日本首相對於二戰的詮釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11160.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11163.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
他侵略世界各國的權勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11163.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11164.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
他已經改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11164.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
過去好像要反省 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11167.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
現在都沒有反省了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11167.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
11169.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
11169.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
11171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
所以你剛剛講了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
11171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
11172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
不只反省要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
11172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
11174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
要避免能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
11174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
11177.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
你剛才就是尊重他多元的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
11177.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
11180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
就是等於尊重他改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
11180.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
11181.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
11181.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
11183.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
我們外交部同仁啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
11183.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
11185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
這個新聞稿不是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
11185.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
11186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
你寫尊重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
11186.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
11187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
我看老闆一定是寫尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
11187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
11189.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
我全文都看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
11189.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
11190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
11190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
11191.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
11191.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
11192.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
不能尊重啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
11192.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
11194.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
這個怎麼可以尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
11194.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
11196.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
日本社會就是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
11196.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
11198.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
歷史要證實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
11198.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
11200.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
他侵略的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
11200.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
11201.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
要證實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
11201.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
11203.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
當然你可以原諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
11203.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
11204.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
但是不能忽視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
11204.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
11205.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
他是侵略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
11205.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
11206.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
讓台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
11206.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
11207.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
死掉三萬多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
11207.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
11209.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
其他的國家都死很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
11209.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
11212.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
日本是二戰的一個元凶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
11212.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
11213.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
11213.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
11214.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
進國神社裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
11214.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
11216.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
裡面都是祭拜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
11216.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
11218.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
都是那個一等一的戰犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
11218.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
11219.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
很清楚那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
11219.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
11221.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
進國神社很複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
11221.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
11223.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
不是只有祭拜那些戰犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
11223.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
11224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
他就是因為混在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
11224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
11226.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
所以問題很複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
11226.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
11227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
我是覺得我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
11227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
11229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
所謂了解日本社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
11229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
11231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
對這個歷史的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
11231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
11232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
有多元的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
11232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
11233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
11233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
11234.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
11234.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
11235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
11235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
11236.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
這個不一樣的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
11236.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
11238.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
尊重就等於同意啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
11238.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
11242.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
我們要維護和平穩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
11242.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
11244.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我們今天所有的立委提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
11244.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
11245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
我說尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
11245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
11246.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
那什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
11246.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
11247.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
尊重就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
11247.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
11249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
我不同意你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
11249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
11250.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
基本上是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
11250.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
11251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
沒有把你學去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
11251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
11253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
請你看詳細的一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
11253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
11255.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
看了我才會跟你執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
11255.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
11257.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
我跟你講這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
11257.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
11259.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
對日本要強硬一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
11259.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
11260.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
不能這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
11260.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
11261.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
包括他跟菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
11261.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
11263.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
一起化經濟海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
11263.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
11264.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
這樣揮擊他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
11264.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
11265.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
跟台灣揮擊你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
11265.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
11266.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
你也尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
11266.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
11267.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
什麼尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
11267.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
11268.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
然後那個重生鳥教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
11268.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
11269.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
明明是個教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
11269.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
11270.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
他還說是個島 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
11270.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
11271.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
你也尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
11273.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
11274.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
11274.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
11275.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
杜德日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
11275.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
11277.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
杜德旁邊的菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
11277.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
11279.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
這樣嚇得要死 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
11279.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
11280.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
只有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
11280.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
11282.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
我們敢大聲的對中五大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
11282.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
11283.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
因為這個政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
11283.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11284.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
抗中保台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11284.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11286.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
我不要敢大聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11286.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11288.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
其他亂啪啪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11288.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11289.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
中國在侵略台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11289.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11290.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
我們在表達開玩笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11290.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11292.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
其他亂啪啪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11292.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11293.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
這個很悲哀啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11293.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11295.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
這個林部長不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11295.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11296.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11296.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
11297.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
他要扭曲歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
11297.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
11298.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
不能尊重啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
11298.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
11300.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
他進國神社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
11300.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
11301.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
11301.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
11302.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
遺憾啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
11303.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
11304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
最好是抗議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
11304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
11304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
11304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
11305.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
11306.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
11306.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
11310.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
11313.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
我們接下來請劉璇婷委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
11317.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
11318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
謝謝主席外交部長的邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
11318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
11319.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
前林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
11329.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
11329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
11329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
11330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
11330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11330.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
這 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
高市找苗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
針對進國神社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
你剛才講得清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
剛剛質詢的時候有一段辯論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
沒有辯論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
交流溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
離心問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
不然討論的東西有時候不對焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11343.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11343.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
會各說各話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
11346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
這議題之所以敏感 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11347.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
就是因為裡面供奉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11347.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
所謂的甲級戰犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
11348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
11349.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
那過去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
11349.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
11351.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
當然日本會隨著它執政黨的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
11351.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
11354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
在這個界線上面會有一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
11354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
11355.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
那每一次的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
11355.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
11358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
它當然都會挑動敏感的這個外交神經嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
11358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
11360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
那我想台灣是當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
11360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
11361.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
這個被殖民的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
11361.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
11363.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
也是戰爭的受害人啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
11363.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
這部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
11364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
11365.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
你就直接一點嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
11365.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
11366.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
你樂不樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11367.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
11369.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
他們重新重視進國神社這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
11369.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
11371.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
甚至是小拳跑去參拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
11371.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
11372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
你樂見這樣的事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
11372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
我覺得參拜是為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
11373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11376.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
但對歷史的反省檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11376.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
然後避免再發生悲劇啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11379.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
你就樂見不樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
11379.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
然後當下我們就是要共同來維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
這個台海跟印太的和平跟穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
那我們也不能夠就是說去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
這個無視於現在台灣正面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
11391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11392.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
東博的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11392.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
你不要指責別的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
你樂不樂見這件事就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
11394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
這個是兩個層次的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
因為剛剛賴世保委員很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
說你這個尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
11397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
到底是什麼意思呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
11398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
請我們去看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
他那個文字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
就是日本社會對於這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
有不同意見嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
你剛剛講過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
就不用再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11408.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
並不是說所謂尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11408.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11409.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
是什麼參拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11409.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
這不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11412.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11415.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
我不會陷入到所謂委員的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11415.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11416.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
因為這個就是所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11416.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11418.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
我們了解日本社會對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11418.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11419.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
也是很分歧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11419.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
那我再換一個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11422.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
我們有個立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11422.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
最近我們的主事代表李毅洋大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11426.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11426.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
長期這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11428.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
顯然是被矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11428.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11429.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
你樂見這樣的事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11429.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11431.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
他是去廣島 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11431.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
所以其實我們受到不但被矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
還幫我們視為同樣的使節團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
這個表達肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11439.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
因此長期在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11443.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
那是由處長去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11443.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
那是經理人道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11445.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
然後的一個關懷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
因為他基本上是一個和報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
然後是一個和平的紀念日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
所以我們基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
有很好的溝通的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11457.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
所以我們不能把去年的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11457.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11459.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
跟今年的把它混在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11459.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11461.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
這個嚴正的抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11461.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
降格出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
然後長期是任何還有所回應等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
這個看起來不是很友好的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
因為李毅洋大使的抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
我是理解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11471.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
遇到矮化你當然要抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11472.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11473.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11473.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11475.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
我覺得李毅洋大使可能把去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11475.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11477.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
跟今年的把它弄在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11477.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11480.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
其實對方是有展現改善的誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11480.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11482.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
但是我們不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11482.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11486.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
但是即使我們的外交處境很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11486.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11488.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
我們還是要在參與中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11488.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11489.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
來表達我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11489.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
這就是台灣今天的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11493.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
我們不被承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11493.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11495.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
我們依然還是要自我承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11495.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
我現在要追問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11499.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
你不可能每一件事情都得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11499.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11501.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
像我們有建交國家的對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11501.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11505.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
說我們跟日本其實是在東京很多的往來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11505.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11508.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
也是在一個中間的地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
11508.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11509.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
你先聽我把話講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
11509.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11511.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
我是很擔心最近事態的一些發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
11511.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
11513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
從它前面的一個化解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
11513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11516.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
從這個看棒球事件的一些爭議跟爆料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
11516.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11518.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
跟你在過境的時候遇到一些風波 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
11518.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
11520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
到長期的這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11523.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
這個日本恐怕受到不小的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
11524.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11526.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
他們當然有來自中國的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11526.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11528.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
但跟台灣的關係還是非常友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11528.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11530.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
我們溝通管道也很暢順 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11530.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11532.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
我就要問外交部處理遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11532.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11533.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
我們現在很清楚對不對 |
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11533.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11535.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
這大家都是了解事情的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11535.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11538.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
你現在手下這麼多外交界非常資深的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11538.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11540.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
這些文武百官都非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11540.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11542.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
他顯然是面對到很大的地緣的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11544.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
他面對到這樣的壓力的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11544.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
我們是基於是好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
所以體諒以為難的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
我們不要多做升溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11551.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
還是我們還是要堅持本來的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11551.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11552.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
把話說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11552.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11554.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
有時候說的有些東西是用做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11554.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11556.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
外交的微妙之處就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11556.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11559.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
說的多不代表就關係好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11559.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11561.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
有時候做的多你要看實質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11561.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11564.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
那因為我們要共同去面對中共的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11564.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11566.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
他不只打壓台灣也打壓日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11566.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11567.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
也打壓日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11567.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
我們當然要聯合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11568.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11571.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
一起阻止中共改變現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11571.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11573.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
我現在看不出來有聯合的跡象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11573.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11575.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
比如說以李洋大使這一段的抗議等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11575.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11576.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
反而是看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11576.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11578.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
台日之間的關係顯然出現了摩擦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11578.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11580.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
他的前半段在講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11580.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11582.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
他去廣島受到了禮遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11582.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
跟其他的有邦交國家是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
我是覺得你要看前半段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11589.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
因為他去的是廣島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11589.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11591.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
長期是由處長去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11591.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11593.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
這個就是溝通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11593.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11595.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
他如果只講前半段那也就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11595.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11597.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
他就是因為前面有抗議的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11597.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
長期政府還回應說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
這跟外務省也有關對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
然後以前是你說要來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
有市政府層級辦的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
市政府層級辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
我們在地方政府辦的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11609.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
當然跟外交部也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11609.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
還是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11611.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
為什麼兩個字會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11611.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11613.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
會代表他們內部有不一樣的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11613.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
我們要好的我們要肯定鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11619.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
不好的我們就是說要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11619.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11623.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
但是參與還是一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11623.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
我們不出席很多活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
我們就沒有發言權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
你當然可以講很多的外交辭令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11629.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
我們的處境就這麼困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11629.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
你看我們在亞裔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
亞裔的改革我們還是抗議中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11633.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
參加好幾十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11633.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
你說你可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
要怎麼說怎麼說都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
但我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
我就提醒你而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
這個事情大家都在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11641.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
我想我們都很客觀很實評的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11641.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
看這個事就是人家顯然受到壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11644.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
可能會做一定的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11644.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
你外交部要好好因應這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
你今天講我要體諒他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
兩邊之間為止就很好的默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
我們表達不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
但不滿意的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
我們依然可以適當的方式參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
那最好把我視為邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
但有時候沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
部長我會給你時間回答你不要緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
好請聽委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11665.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
我會給你時間回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11665.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11667.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
但是你要讓我把話講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11667.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
不要一直插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
因為我是問題還是很真誠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11672.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
我會給你時間回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11672.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11673.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
我再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11673.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11675.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
我今天這次要提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11675.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11676.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
人家面對很大的壓力的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11676.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11678.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
你外部兩條路可以走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11678.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
一個是理解他的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11682.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
我們在這樣的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11682.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11684.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
台灣的外交本來就要搞非常彈性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11684.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11685.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
這我們都會尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11685.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11686.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
你理解他的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11686.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11688.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
所以大家要配合跑位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11688.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11690.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
就不要一天到晚想著要做宣傳等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11690.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11694.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
如果你執意要請你做到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11694.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11695.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
你該抗議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11695.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11696.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
我講我不會反對他抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11696.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11697.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
你被矮化是一個事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11697.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11699.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
你該距離力爭的時候你就爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11699.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11701.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
但是你的路線要清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11701.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11702.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
你不要有的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11702.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11703.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
好像要給人家摩擦的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11703.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11704.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
一下說沒事沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11704.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11705.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
一切都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11705.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11706.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
很矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11706.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11707.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
沒有我們有表達立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11707.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11709.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
你有表達立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11709.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11711.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
我今天主要不要問這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11711.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11712.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
我今天要問的問題還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11712.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
大家都關心的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11715.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
是你駐外管處的管理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11715.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11716.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11716.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
這個李冠德處長回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11720.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
接受調查對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11720.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11722.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
他接受調查時間 |
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你剛剛講說兩個月之內會有結果 |
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那我要問更細節一點的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
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那這兩個月的時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
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他是接受完調查他還回去了嗎 |
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就是把他調查完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
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我們當然會加速來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
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我要問的是他會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
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比如說留在台灣接受徹底的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
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還是一定是來問完話 |
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問完話你就回去照常上班 |
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是哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
因為這個依我們的規定就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
一個月內要啟動調查 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
已經啟動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11749.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
兩個月要調查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
我知道你兩個月要調查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
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我們也希望加速程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
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因為這個涉及到我們外管的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
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我們也不希望受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
你講得真好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11757.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
涉及到外管的運作對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
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因為這是好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11761.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
當然你這個釐清事情的真相需要時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11762.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
這本席願意尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
但這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
很多人都提這是霸凌的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
霸凌很敏感 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
這當然也是個事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
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你要好好處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11770.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
但他不只是有霸凌的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11773.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
他還有超速駕車影響國家形象的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11773.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
他還有可能挪用公款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11776.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
挪用公款這是可大可小 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
這前一陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11778.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
這很重要不能是可大可小 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11779.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
當然嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11780.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
前面的馮光中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
最後是貪污治罪條例起訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
所以你今天不能講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
為了調查委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11785.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
兩個月就要交代了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
你要詳細交代怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11790.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
怎麼樣調查的一些細節是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11791.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
然後他還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
我們之所以要問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11794.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
他可不可以回去原地上上班的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11796.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
是因為前面人家就追著 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11796.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
吹哨者就爆料了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
人家8月2號這事情見了光 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11802.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
8月6號還開會喬這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11802.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
一項一項來問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
我們7月22號就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
你就接到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
對我知道這個事情在媒體見光之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
他還去召集他下面人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
然後開始一條一條對這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11814.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
你現在讓他回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11814.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
這不能夠干擾調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11816.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
如果有這個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11816.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11820.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
有這個行為並列入調查的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11820.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
所以我現在就要問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
在這個調查期間你講兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
對不對被調查人被申訴人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11828.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
有沒有暫停職務或調整職務的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11829.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
要看他的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11829.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11830.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
我們先把他調回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11830.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
就是讓他不要在現場去影響這個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11834.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
這個本席非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11834.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
你看這個速度都很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11839.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
馬上把他調回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11839.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
所以你看繞了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
這就是我問你問題的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11843.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
你今天是這兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11843.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11844.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
他都要待在台灣接受調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11844.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11846.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
也避免他回去干擾調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11846.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11847.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
這是一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11847.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11848.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
或者是你這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11848.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11849.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
這兩個月是最長時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11849.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11851.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
我們可能可以加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11851.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
那你就告訴大家要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11854.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
專業的調查專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11854.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11856.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
那你就告訴大家要留多久的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11856.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11858.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
比如說你至少要留兩個禮拜三個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11858.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11859.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
我要完成所有的什麼樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11859.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11860.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
因為這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11860.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11863.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
他這個檢舉的內容非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11863.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11864.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
是阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11864.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11865.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
好多其他項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11865.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11867.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
有一些當事人包括李處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11867.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11869.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
他也都在說明不是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11870.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
那我們必須兩照並程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11870.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11872.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
互往互衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11872.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11873.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
所以我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11873.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11875.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
站在這個調查前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11875.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11876.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
他也是一個基於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11876.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11878.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
部長你剛剛有講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11878.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
可以讓他干擾調查對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11880.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
不可以讓他干擾調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11880.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11882.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
所以相關的這個規定裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11882.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
就有寫其實是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
我們後續如果需要調查時間前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11886.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
我們當然有代理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11886.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11888.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
也有其他的發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11888.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
那你現在是啟動還是不啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11890.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
什麼時候就走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11890.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
現在就剛回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11892.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
馬上開會就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11892.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11894.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
因為初步我想人事處都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11894.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11897.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
對這個事情是一定是非常關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11897.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11898.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
我們既然把他調回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11898.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11900.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
就是希望加速調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11900.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11901.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
所以你繞了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11901.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11902.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
你繞了半天你還是沒講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11902.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11904.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
到底要不要暫停職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11904.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11905.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
還是你今天說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11905.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11906.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
大家問完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11906.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11907.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
過了一個禮拜就放回去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11907.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11909.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
他就是已經影響我們外館的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11909.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11911.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
他已經調回了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11911.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11913.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
那我們現在是看這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11913.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11914.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
就是這個啟動專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11914.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11915.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
開第一次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11915.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11916.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
因為我們就已經立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11916.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11919.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
然後這個時間都早於媒體報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11919.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11920.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
這代表我們主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11920.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11921.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
要查辦這個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11921.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11922.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
所以你今天如果很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11922.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11924.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
就講說我要徹查到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11924.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11925.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
而且我要避免他干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11925.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11927.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
你就講說在調查的時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11927.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11928.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
給他退去就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11928.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11929.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
我的態度跟立委一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11929.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11930.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
只是我講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11930.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11931.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
我比較不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11931.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11932.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
那他到底會回去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11932.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11933.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
說那種比較好像就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11933.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11934.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
因為我們現在看到的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11934.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11936.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
是他回台接受調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11936.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11937.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
那他其實他怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11937.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11938.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
你是假設性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11938.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11939.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
我們可能很快就把他調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11939.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
調查離親之前是不可能回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11942.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
因為你馬上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11942.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
至少要把證據都弄完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11943.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11944.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
不能來來去去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11944.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11946.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
也不可能那麼多的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11946.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
所以他現在還在國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11948.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
現在剛回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11948.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11949.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
已經到達台灣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11949.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11950.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
已經到達台灣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11950.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
還沒問話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11953.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
因為今天是星期三 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11953.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11954.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
那就是已經在安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11954.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
有的已經這個schedule都有排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11959.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
因為這個專案調查小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11959.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11961.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
專案調查小組的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11961.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11962.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
你這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11962.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11963.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
以他們的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11963.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11965.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
然後我們希望加快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11965.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11966.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
我換個方式問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11966.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
密集 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
你有沒有辦法跟國人大眾交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
而且保證在調查的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11970.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
絕對不會讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11970.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11971.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
再干擾調查的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11971.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11975.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
我們禁止他去有任何干擾調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11975.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11976.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
如果有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11976.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11977.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
也一併列入調查對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11977.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11978.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11978.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11980.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
這個早這樣講不就好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11980.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11982.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
大家關鍵就是問這個事嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11982.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11983.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
再來我要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11983.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
因為他剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
他有這個裡面的指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11986.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
有相關挪用公款的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11986.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
這挪用公款的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11988.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
挪用公款的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11988.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11990.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
恐怕不會只是外交部的內部調查了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11990.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11992.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
檢調現在這件事情有那個嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11992.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11994.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
你們有沒有做依法的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11994.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11996.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
或者是怎麼樣的聯合的調查方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11996.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
這件事情外交部說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11999.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
因為這是檢舉的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11999.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
12000.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
它不是像司法單位嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
12000.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
12001.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
我想這政風 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
12001.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
12002.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
然後我們的人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
12002.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
12004.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
他們都會過意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
12004.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
12005.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
好 有沒有補充說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
12006.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
12007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
12008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
12009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
12009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
12011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
這部分如果有涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
12011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
12012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
刑事不法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
12012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
12014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
現在台北地檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
12014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
12015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
指揮聯政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
12015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
12017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
和本部政風處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
12017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
12019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
一起做這部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
12019.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
12020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
已經有在做調查了是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
12020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
12021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
12021.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
12022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
12022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
12023.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
這個相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
12023.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
12026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
要嚴格來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
12026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
12027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
那我要回來問外交部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
12027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
12028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
這一段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
12028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
12029.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
很多啦 剛剛我講的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
12029.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
12030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
馮光中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
12030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
12031.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
前面講的余大雷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
12031.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
12032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
羅昌發等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
12032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
都是因為住外嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
12034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12035.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
天高黃地遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12035.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
12036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
所以他常常有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
不太好的習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12039.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12039.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
或者是不太乾淨的一些文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
我們從制度面的一個角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12041.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12043.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
外交部要如何徹底改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12043.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12045.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
這個公款可能被挪用的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
12047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
這個公務員依法行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
如果有違法就要辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
那另外一個改善工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
讓大家其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
12055.09 |
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12057.09 |
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這個我們不能為外館 |
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12057.09 |
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12059.09 |
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因為在就是說 |
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12059.09 |
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12061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
去做任何理化 |
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12061.09 |
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12063.09 |
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包括現在對於罷齡 |
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12063.09 |
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12064.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
性侵 |
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12064.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
12066.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
這些都是新的法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
12066.09 |
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12067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
很嚴格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
12067.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
12068.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
我們要教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
12068.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
12070.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
另外就是要讓他可以 |
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12070.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
12071.09 |
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就是說申訴 |
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12071.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
12072.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
那其他其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
12072.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
12074.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
做工作環境的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
12074.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
12076.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
把那些不太好的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
12076.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
12077.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
因為外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
12077.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
12078.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
我們不能夠去合理化 |
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12078.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
12080.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
但是外館確實是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
12080.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
12082.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
很大的一種內外的壓力之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
12082.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
12083.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
在工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
12083.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
12085.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
那怎麼樣館長能夠以身作則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
12085.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
12086.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
創造一個好的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
12086.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
12087.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
這個才是資本之道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
12087.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
12088.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
12088.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
12089.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
這個本席對於你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
12089.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
12090.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
對外管處的這些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
12090.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
12092.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
我們原則上都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
12092.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
12093.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
大家都知道派駐是一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
12093.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
12094.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
很辛苦的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
12094.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
12095.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
我從來不多加為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
12095.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
12096.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
12096.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
12098.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
如果立法院作為把關的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
12098.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
12099.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
都不多加為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
12099.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
12100.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
因為我們大家體恤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
12100.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
12101.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
這個公務人員的辛勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
12101.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
12102.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
外交人員的辛勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
12102.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12103.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
都不把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12103.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12105.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
但是你的內控機制不好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12105.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12107.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
我們要怎麼跟國人大眾交代呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12107.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12109.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
所以本席建議外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12109.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12112.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
你針對相關管處的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12112.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12113.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
你至少內控機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12113.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12115.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
你要怎麼樣要變嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12115.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
你總做得到吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12116.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12117.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
以前常常講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12117.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
天空皇帝人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12118.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12119.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
我就做一本準一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12119.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12120.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
所以它核銷量很方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12120.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12121.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
所以奇奇怪怪的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12121.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12122.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
就跑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12122.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12123.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
問題就出在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12123.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12124.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
那你的內控機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12124.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12125.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
要如何做改善呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12125.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12127.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
你外部就研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12127.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12128.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12128.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12129.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
你的人事會計等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12129.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12131.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
一些單位外管裡面討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12131.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12132.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
怎麼樣加強這個內控的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12132.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12133.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
你要給立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12133.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12134.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
國外外交委員一些交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12134.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12135.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
好不好 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12135.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12136.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
我給你一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12136.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12137.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
這個一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12137.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12138.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
李冠德案子你當然要徹查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12138.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12140.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
而且你要保證他不能干涉調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12140.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12142.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
第二相關的內控機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12142.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12144.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
請你對外宣示兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12144.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12146.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
兩個月之後請你一併跟國人大眾說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12146.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12147.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12147.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12148.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
對 我們會加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12148.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12149.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12149.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12150.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12152.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12155.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
好 接下來請楊瓊英委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12165.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12166.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
楊瓊英發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12166.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12167.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12167.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12168.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
邀請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12168.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12169.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12178.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12179.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12179.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12180.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12180.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12181.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12181.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
延續剛剛的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12185.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
我們大家在國外的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12185.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12187.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
都可以感觸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
派駐外館的同仁很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12191.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12193.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
今天發生了這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
也表示我們對外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12199.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
有改進精進的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12200.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12201.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
我們當然不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12203.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12206.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
這個不法的行為去影響整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12206.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12208.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
外交部的形象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12208.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12211.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
跟外館同仁的辛苦的一個抹殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12211.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12215.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
尤其外館在每一個國家五大州裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12215.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12218.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
他因為他的物價指數也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12218.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12219.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
更相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12220.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12221.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12224.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
每一個國家的情況不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12224.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12226.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
我在這邊具體建議你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
12226.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12228.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
部長你應該擇其專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
每一個五大州的一個樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12232.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12234.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
你如果是一事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12234.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12237.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
的一個補助方式協助方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12237.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12240.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
那當然會有這些不法的事情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12240.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12242.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
當然不法是絕對不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12242.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12245.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
公務人員一定要依法來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12245.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12247.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
不管你在哪一個情境上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12247.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12249.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
但是明明白白 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12249.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
12251.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
有這樣子的一個漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12252.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12253.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
事情展示 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12254.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
12256.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
那在這樣子國人都非常的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12256.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12258.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
大家也知道外館的人員很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12260.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
甚至連他們防護的租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12260.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12262.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
他自己還要再貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12263.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
12265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
在這樣的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12267.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
又發生這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
一事的這樣子的一個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12269.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
您身為部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12272.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12274.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
你的立場要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12274.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
要怎麼樣去清淨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12278.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12278.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
當然對同仁的工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
有物質的也有精神面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
在他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12283.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12284.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
比如說剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12284.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12286.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
因為物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12286.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12288.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12288.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12290.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
他們整個包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12290.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12291.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
住的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12291.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
我們怎樣進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
房屋的補貼是符合物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12296.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
的調升 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12296.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
然後地利加急 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
有些地方真的工作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
負擔特別重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12303.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
我們還是要有點差異化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12303.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12304.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
那再來當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12304.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12305.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
我想對一個外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12305.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
他關心的是他的家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12307.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
包括孩子的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12309.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12310.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
這一些我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12310.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12311.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
現在都有很多福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12311.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
我們也希望適用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
我們的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12317.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
這個教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12317.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12319.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
只理這個補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12319.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
另外當然有涉及到一些像健保等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12323.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
那也很感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12323.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12325.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
我想包括總統院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12325.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12328.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
還有大院的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12328.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12330.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
我們在預算上是有反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12330.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
再包括這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12334.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
地利加急 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12334.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12335.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
房屋補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12335.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12336.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
兒女教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12336.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12337.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
還有健保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12337.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12338.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
還有其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12339.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12341.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
這些福利跟權益上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12341.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12343.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
這個是物質面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12343.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12345.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
另外就是改善工作環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12345.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12347.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
知道為何而戰為誰而戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12347.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12349.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
我們台灣我們現在總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12349.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12351.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
三連戰略龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12351.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12353.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
都讓我們的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12353.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12354.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
更清楚的願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12354.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12356.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
也讓他們可以整合跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12356.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
甚至民間的支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12360.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
所以大家是比較有成就感 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12360.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12361.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
比如說我去歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12361.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
我很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12363.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
我開區域會報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12363.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12365.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
那我可以走遍G7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12365.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
那同仁的士氣會好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12368.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
因為他看到部長可以走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12368.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12370.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
那你看我們的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12370.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
包括在美國日本歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
這個當然增加我們外交的籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
我們也在善用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12380.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
因為這個政府跟民間的公私協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12380.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
也是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12382.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
不可能靠政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12384.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12386.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
跟精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12386.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12387.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
你回答了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12387.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12389.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
我之所以願意給你講這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12389.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12390.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
也就是你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12392.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
在外館的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12392.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
尤其是女性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12394.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12395.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
他在居住的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12396.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12398.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
他因為他物價指數漲得不得了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
甚至連房租啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
他倍增三倍增 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12404.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
所以他必須要越住越郊外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12404.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
所以他安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12408.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
這個我已經看到一個問題的關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12408.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12410.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
就是時間拖長之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12410.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12412.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
交通往後的安全問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12412.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
在這個議題裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
你講了那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12418.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
也就是知道你還有很大的進進空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12418.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12420.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
一方面防弊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12421.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12423.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
二方面讓我們的外館人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12423.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12426.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
怎麼樣可以安心公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12427.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12428.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
這個是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12428.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12430.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
你把你的經營方案給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12430.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12432.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
接下來我要跟你討論的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12432.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12434.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
青年國際化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12434.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
我認為青年國際化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12437.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
他不是說你只有帶他出國一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12437.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12440.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
那交了一個報告回來就結案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12440.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12442.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
他應該不是如此吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12442.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12446.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
所以因此我也要特別針對今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12446.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12449.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
我們的這個國際青年大使的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12449.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12452.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
六百個人來應徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12452.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12453.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
五十個通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12453.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12455.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
那這五十個通過呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12455.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
還有增加首次十名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
科技應用組的這個青年大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12463.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
那這表示青年非常的希望能夠參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12463.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12466.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
非常希望參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12466.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
所以你整個外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
在青年外交的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12472.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
你的成功指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12474.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
好 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12474.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12476.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
當然我們經過過去挑選 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12476.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12478.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
是為了比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12478.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12480.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
語言人力的才藝專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12480.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12482.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
但現在多元取材之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12482.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12484.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
我們讓他去對接對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12484.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
那這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12487.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12489.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
這樣青年早一點有國際經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12489.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
對他一生影響很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12490.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
他也可能會未來持續去關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12492.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12494.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
跟參與這個外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12494.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
那以剛剛講這個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
科技應用組就是無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12499.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
那這個台灣有很多的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12499.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12501.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
請針對本席的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12501.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12505.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
青年外交你的成效指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12505.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12507.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
有量有值嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12507.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12508.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
數量跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12508.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12510.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
我們的這個值的指標都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
第一個人數我們已經報告上有了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
至於說他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12516.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
青年外交你的成效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12520.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12520.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12522.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
我們可以做個調研嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12522.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12524.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
比如說我們針對現在成立這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12524.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12527.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
這個國際青年大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12527.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
我舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
我們那個農業青年大使的效果都非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
他們包括到馬來西亞到澳洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12538.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
去交流展現台灣的青龍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12538.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12540.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
這個真的是很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12540.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12542.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
我們認為因為你身為部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12542.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12544.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
我們的成效指標很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12544.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
雖然現在講不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12548.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
沒關係你事後書面資料給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12548.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
你的成效指標到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12553.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
那因為我們要看的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12553.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12556.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
不是說你出訪的次數或者是人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12556.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12557.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12557.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
應該是要看他出訪之後你產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
多少的實質外交的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12564.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
比如說青年返國之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12564.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12566.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
有多少人他繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12566.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12568.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
他成為國際的NGO |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12568.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
比如說他是國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12572.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
參與了國際的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12572.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
外交相關的專業人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
以及有多少人你持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12580.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
在外交體系裡頭相關類別裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12580.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
去參與了國際交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12585.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
以及參與了國際的宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12586.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12589.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
那有沒有跟當地的這個青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12589.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12591.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
成為長期的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12591.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12595.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
以及最後將這些的經驗跟經歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12595.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
轉化為教育科技文化的一個實質交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
這個才是我們有要的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
你有沒有量化的去追蹤啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12606.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
這些成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12606.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12608.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
量化是有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12608.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12610.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
質化我們要再努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12611.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12614.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
量化的數字這個都可以找得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12614.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12617.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
但是質化的這個衡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12617.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12619.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
因為其實年輕人出國的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12619.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12622.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
可能在他心中種下一個種子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12622.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12624.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
因為影響是需要時間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12624.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12626.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
請你本期再講的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12626.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12628.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
提問的時候你就待會再讓你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12629.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
那麼你應該要有你的量化的一個追蹤啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
你沒有這些成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
難怪你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12637.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
有啦我們在提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12637.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
量化是有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12640.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
你的成效目標是打不出來的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12640.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12642.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
真正的質化是需要真的長期觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
我們會做一個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12645.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
去追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
經過委員這樣的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
我們來好好系統性的來去評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
這些成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
再給委員來指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
所以你願意改進願意精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
本期也希望得到你的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
所以我們認為出國前的培訓海外的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12662.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
以及你回國後的追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12664.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
國際合作的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12670.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
青年外交人才庫這一系列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12670.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
你才能夠真正的去達成你的成效目標嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12676.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12676.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
是那就要做好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12678.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12678.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
你把你的方案提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
謝謝楊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12687.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12688.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12688.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12690.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
接下來請蘇清泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12690.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12692.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
蘇清泉蘇清泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12692.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12694.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
請葉源之葉源之葉源之委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12694.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12696.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
請羅美齡委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12704.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12705.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12705.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
有請僑委會徐家清委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12709.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
請徐委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12715.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
歐美女孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12717.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
委員長這段時間辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
我沒有看到其實前陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12727.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
委員長應該是非常的困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12727.23 |
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面對一些不實留言的指控 |
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12734.23 |
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那當然我們有看到現在各界 |
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像這個全美台灣同鄉會 |
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12737.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12739.23 |
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還有我們也看到美洲 |
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12739.23 |
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12742.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
歐洲甚至東南亞的一些橋界 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12742.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12747.23 |
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都對委員長受到這些不實的指控 |
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12747.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12750.23 |
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都提出了非常嚴重的抗議 |
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12750.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12753.23 |
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那我有看到全美台灣同鄉會有提到 |
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12753.23 |
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12754.23 |
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就是說僑務工作 |
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12754.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12756.23 |
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不是外界所想像的那樣 |
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12756.23 |
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12758.23 |
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就是說撿個彩拉或者是說 |
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12758.23 |
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12761.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
這個詞其實真正的僑務工作 |
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12761.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12763.23 |
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它是要服務這個僑民 |
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12763.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12766.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
還有就是要肩負台灣的惡鬼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12766.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12767.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
外交等等 |
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12767.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12768.23 |
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絕對不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12768.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12770.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
跟著出去吃了一點甜點 |
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12770.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
然後就認為僑委會沒有在做事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12777.23 |
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其實如果有跟過委員長的這個行程 |
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12777.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12780.23 |
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大家都知道說這是鐵人行程 |
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12780.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12783.23 |
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連一點喘息的這個時間都沒有 |
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12783.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12784.23 |
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所以我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12784.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12786.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
我在想委員長應該這陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12786.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12788.23 |
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有很多話要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12788.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12790.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
我想希望就是說委員長這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12790.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12793.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
應該也替僑委會說個話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12793.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12795.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
到底僑委會的工作是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12795.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12797.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
就只有吃甜點看電影嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12797.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12799.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
我想委員長應該這陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12799.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
謝謝委員給我這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12802.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12805.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
事實上我覺得我們住在同仁比我更辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12805.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
因為我雖然每一次到訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12810.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
有時候沒有從台北帶同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12810.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12813.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
過去也很多委員長也是基於尊爵預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12813.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12815.9 |
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常常一個人獨行的狀況也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12815.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
那偶爾也有帶一個人帶兩個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
那過去這幾年在疫情後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12819.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
因為全球的機票都變很貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12822.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
加上各種變數很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
有時候我們到了某一些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
臨時機票被cancel |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
或者是飛機嚴重delay |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12830.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12833.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
或者是發生什麼天候因素影響等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12833.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
我們就都不能起飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12834.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12836.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
然後再k一張新的機票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12836.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12839.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
我可以上得了機同仁卻上不了機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12839.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12842.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
所以已經發生過太多的這種意外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12842.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12844.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
所以後面我們就基於這樣的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12844.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12845.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
後來都說好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12845.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12847.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
那就盡量讓local people |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12847.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12849.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
也是我們派駐在海外的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12849.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
即便我們僑委會是有派42個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
但是我們全球有111個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
我們外交部所派駐的管處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
很多的外交同仁也是在積極的協助我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
執行我們沒有派點的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
所以我對他們的辛苦我都非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12870.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
很多的工作並不是那麼大家想的容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12870.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12872.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
比方說我們很多的僑區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12872.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12874.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
事實上大家居住都非常分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12874.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12878.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
那如果是在平常非上班日的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12878.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12880.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
還好大家還可以聚集在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12880.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
如果在上班日他還要繼續工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12886.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
我們根本有時候很難把他請到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12886.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
說我所在的那個城市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12892.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
所以常常有些時候是一半一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12892.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12894.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
又要有實體又要有線上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12894.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12896.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
我經常在這個行程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12896.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
這個會議是這樣子雙軌在進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
有些人他不能實體來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
我們就同時開線上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
那有些人可以實體來參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
我們現場就進行說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
但是要setting要做這些聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
都是我到以前我們所有的僑務同仁 |
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12913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
或外交部同仁 |
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12914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
就要積極去幫我們做這樣子的聯繫工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
所以我雖然是一個人跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
但事實上所有的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
都是由我們在地的僑務秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12925.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
或是我們外交部同仁在陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12925.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12929.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
很多的工作不是一個人單獨可以完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12929.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12931.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
所以我個人雖然說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12931.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12933.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
飛來飛去很辛苦沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12933.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12935.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
但是我覺得我們住外同仁是更辛苦 |
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12935.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12937.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
剛剛楊委員也特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12937.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12939.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
我們有過去幾年因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12939.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
在歐美國家物價真的嚴重上漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12944.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12947.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
我都還記得我疫情後那兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12947.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12949.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
我每次出一次差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12949.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12951.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
我每次要倒貼一次錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12951.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12953.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
所以大家以為我日資費領很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12953.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12956.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
殊不知那時候的旅館費是高很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12956.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12959.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
所以後來外交部也知道現實狀況 |
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12959.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12961.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
所以我開始積極做調整 |
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12961.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12964.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
但是再怎麼調海外很多國家的物價 |
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12965.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12969.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
這個指數的上漲速度總是比台灣快很多 |
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12969.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
所以在這樣的狀況下 |
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12970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
我真的很不忍心我們的同仁確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12978.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
在他們所能夠拿到的防補預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12978.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
他只能住越來越遠的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12982.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
然後開車要開越來越久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12982.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
確實有我們覺得擔心的問題就是安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
所以類似這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12990.73 |
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與其關心我跑幾個國家 |
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12990.73 |
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12993.73 |
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不如更加關心我們住外同仁 |
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12993.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
怎麼樣可以得到合理的一些該有的協助跟補助 |
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12999.73 |
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13001.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
除了很基本的這些以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
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我也認為這幾年我們同仁 |
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真的很使命必達的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
13010.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
在海外盡力的希望讓世界的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
13010.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
13012.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
越來越認識台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
13012.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
13014.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
所以我們也很努力在下一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
13014.73 |
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13018.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
我們所有的同仁現在語言程度都要提高很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
13018.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
13021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
因為我們都是在多語進行的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
13021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
13025.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
包括本會編的教材已經進到11個語言的版本了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
13025.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
13029.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
就知道說我們90幾個華語文學習中心 |
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13029.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
13031.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
我們不是憑空的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
13031.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
13034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
一夕之間就突然間錢灑下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
13034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
13035.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
我們就做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
13035.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
13040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
我們都是要從在地的僑團僑校的協力教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
13040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
13043.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
才能來幫我們做這樣子一個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
13043.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
13046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
國內的教師我們還不一定派得出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
13046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
13048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
因為他們不會用當地的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
13048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
13050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
而在交國際朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
13050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
13054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
是必須要用當地的語言來進行教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
13054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
13055.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
在德國用德文 |
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13055.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
13057.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
在法國用法文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
13057.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
13059.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
在西班牙語系國家用西語 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
13059.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
13062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
在日語系國家用日文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
13062.73 |
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13065.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
所以在這樣的過程當中我們事實上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
13066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
13069.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
多面向的要負擔很多很多的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
所以包括本會同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
13074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
大家不但是華語台語或講以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
13074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
13076.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
很多人還學共同華 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
13076.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
13078.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
還學各種當地的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
13078.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
13081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
有兩語三語四語的人都是大有人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
13081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
13085.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
所以老實說我認為我們外交同仁是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
13085.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
13087.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
非常非常的不簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
13087.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
13090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
因為他們面對的挑戰跟訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
13090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
13093.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
是遠遠比其他世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
13093.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
13095.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
我覺得都來得更優秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
13095.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
13098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
因為他們不是只有接受一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
13098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
13100.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
這種外交的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
13100.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
13102.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
他們是double的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
13102.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
13105.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
每一天我們都在外面面對中共 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
13105.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
13107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
設下的各種各樣的障礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
13107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
13110.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
跟一般國家我們可以正常進行的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
13110.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
13111.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
常常都是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
13111.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
13114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
所以我們就是要這麼的迂迴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
13114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
13116.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
軟性各種的創意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
13116.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
13120.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
去達到最終我們要努力的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
13120.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
13122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
那我在這邊我也要藉這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
13122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
13124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
感謝我們全球的巧包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
13124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
13127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
如果不是大家這麼願意協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
13127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
13131.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
我們對於第一代之後的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
13131.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
13134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
老實說我們是很急迫的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
13134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
13137.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
跟他們產生更多的交流互動跟連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
13137.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
13141.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
二代以後如果跟台灣沒有任何連結關係的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
13141.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
13144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
沒有文化跟語言的傳承關係的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
13144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
13146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
接下來他就是當地國的人民了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
13146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
13150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
再來我們也沒有什麼僑民可以再聯繫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
13150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
13153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
所以這幾年我們每一個外派的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
13153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
13155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
老實說除了專業要訓練以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
13155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
13157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
語言的能力都要要求以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
13157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
13162.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
他們還要接受各種各樣新的政策任務的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
13162.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
13164.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
但是大家都沒有怨言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
13164.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
13166.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
還是持續往前邁進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
13166.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
13168.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
這是我最感謝他們的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
13169.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
13171.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
謝謝委員長的這個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
13171.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
13174.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
真的僑務工作真的是非常的繁雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
13174.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
13176.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
也是非常的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
13176.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
13179.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
如果你沒說出來可能很多人都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
13179.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
13181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
僑務委會的工作是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
13181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
13184.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
那這些辛苦其實真的是很不為人道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
13184.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
13186.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
如果說你不了解的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
13186.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
13189.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
你還真的想說整天就看到委員長飛來飛去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
13189.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
13193.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
那其實我們外交國防的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
13193.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
13197.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
其實也有很多機會接觸到這個僑包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
13197.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
13199.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
我們也常常要到國外去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
13199.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
13201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
那其實每一次遇到僑包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
13201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
13204.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
其實僑包對委員長的這個肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
13204.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
13207.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
你的辛苦他們是非常的肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
13207.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
13209.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
對你的評價其實是非常高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
13209.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
13211.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
所以為什麼這一次有這些指控出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
13211.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
13214.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
我們可以看到世界各國的僑包都願意站出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
13214.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
13217.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
替委員長說一聲不平 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
13217.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
13220.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
所以這一點的話我想委員長你這個應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
13220.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
13223.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
你也可以得到很大的安慰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
13223.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
13226.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
因為你的努力是不是得到了這個肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
13226.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
13229.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
所以這個部分的話我想僑委會未來的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
13229.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
13232.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
還是非常的這個忙碌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
13232.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
13234.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
尤其是面對這個中國的這個打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
13234.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
13236.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
這一切都是很不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
13236.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
13238.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
所以我們希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
13238.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13240.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
不管是朝野來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13240.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
大家應該是一致對外來支持僑委會的這個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13248.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
那當然我們也希望就是委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13248.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13251.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
如果說有做了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13251.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13254.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
其實應該適時的跟國人來做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13254.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13256.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
讓大家知道說僑委會的工作是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13256.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13258.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
感謝羅委員的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13258.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13260.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
我們也很支持國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13260.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13262.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
要持續的拓展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13262.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13265.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
我們也會盡我們所能在每一個點上協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13265.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13268.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
可能我們可以安排的這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13268.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
請委員進行繼續這個指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
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OK 以上謝謝 |
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好 謝謝 |
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好 我們現在還有鄭正前 |
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鄭正前 鄭正前委員不在 |
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請洪孟凱委員 |
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洪孟凱 洪孟凱委員不在 |
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我們今天已經以登記質詢的委員 |
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除不在場以外 |
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均已發言完畢 報告及詢討結束 |
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本日會議有黃仁委員 王定宇委員 |
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提出書面質詢 |
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請列入記錄刊登公報 |
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委員書面及口頭質詢 |
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未及答覆的部分 |
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或要求補充資料者 |
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請相關機關兩週內 |
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以書面答覆 |
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委員由約定期限者從其鎖定 |
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本日會議到此結束 |
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三會 謝謝大家 辛苦了 謝謝 |
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謝謝 |
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