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| 00:29:59,260 | 00:30:01,260 | 好謝謝我們開會時間一到 |
| 00:30:01,260 | 00:30:02,900 | 謝謝各位黨鞭 |
| 00:30:03,600 | 00:30:05,560 | 蔡總召 |
| 00:30:06,360 | 00:30:07,360 | 陳總召 |
| 00:30:08,420 | 00:30:09,420 | 副總召 |
| 00:30:10,360 | 00:30:11,959 | 謝謝各位練習官員 |
| 00:30:12,830 | 00:30:14,629 | 三個黨團的代表 |
| 00:30:15,490 | 00:30:17,490 | 都已經有人在現場了哈 |
| 00:30:22,700 | 00:30:25,700 | 蔡總召跟范書記長呢 |
| 00:30:26,780 | 00:30:28,780 | 謝謝 |
| 00:30:39,220 | 00:30:42,220 | 啊你們那個蔡總召是在路上嗎 |
| 00:30:59,760 | 00:31:01,760 | 好謝謝蔡總召 |
| 00:31:02,390 | 00:31:04,390 | 啊民進黨的蔡總召 |
| 00:31:04,390 | 00:31:06,390 | 莊幹事長到了 |
| 00:31:07,600 | 00:31:09,600 | 台灣民眾黨陳總召也到了 |
| 00:31:09,600 | 00:31:11,600 | 國民黨副總召到不到 |
| 00:31:13,700 | 00:31:14,700 | 副總召不參加 |
| 00:31:16,770 | 00:31:18,770 | 副總召有沒有授權給書記長 |
| 00:31:19,990 | 00:31:21,990 | 書記長必須要公開答覆 |
| 00:31:21,990 | 00:31:23,990 | 否則另外兩位總召坐這裡不是250嗎 |
| 00:31:26,620 | 00:31:28,620 | 有授權所以你等一下簽字有效 |
| 00:31:30,600 | 00:31:31,600 | 你的簽字無效 |
| 00:31:33,390 | 00:31:35,390 | 那你副總召人不來 |
| 00:31:35,800 | 00:31:36,800 | 你簽字無效 |
| 00:31:37,910 | 00:31:39,910 | 那是慈禧太后垂簾聽政是吧 |
| 00:31:43,140 | 00:31:45,140 | 立法院有這麼病態發展的嗎 |
| 00:31:46,640 | 00:31:48,640 | 已經連續幾次不到了 |
| 00:31:54,350 | 00:31:56,350 | 君子物本 本力而道生 |
| 00:31:57,250 | 00:31:59,250 | 你最基本的工作 |
| 00:31:59,250 | 00:32:01,250 | 既然當總召你開朝野協商你一定要到啊 |
| 00:32:01,250 | 00:32:03,250 | 不到就授權 |
| 00:32:03,250 | 00:32:05,250 | 我要請教陳慶龍總召 |
| 00:32:05,250 | 00:32:07,250 | 如果你不到你會授權給你下面的幹部 |
| 00:32:07,250 | 00:32:09,250 | 簽字有效嗎 |
| 00:32:10,720 | 00:32:12,720 | 喂 請說不用客氣 |
| 00:32:13,690 | 00:32:15,690 | 你要問蔡總召來願吧 |
| 00:32:15,690 | 00:32:17,690 | 我等一下就會問 |
| 00:32:17,500 | 00:32:19,500 | 哈哈 |
| 00:32:18,660 | 00:32:20,660 | 你授權不授權 |
| 00:32:20,960 | 00:32:22,960 | 我們的基地原民嘛 |
| 00:32:22,960 | 00:32:24,960 | 我一定會授權 |
| 00:32:24,960 | 00:32:26,960 | 好 謝謝 |
| 00:32:26,330 | 00:32:28,330 | 請問一下蔡總召如果你不到的話你會不會授權 |
| 00:32:28,330 | 00:32:30,330 | 莊瑞雄署長簽字有沒有效 |
| 00:32:30,330 | 00:32:34,330 | 如果我沒有來莊瑞雄幹事長簽字就算了 |
| 00:32:34,330 | 00:32:36,330 | 我也聲明 |
| 00:32:36,740 | 00:32:38,740 | 如果不來請江啟臣副院長組織會議 |
| 00:32:38,740 | 00:32:40,740 | 江啟臣副院長所代表的一切 |
| 00:32:40,740 | 00:32:42,740 | 都是有效的 |
| 00:32:42,740 | 00:32:44,740 | 我再請教一下基隆市選出來林佩祥委員 |
| 00:32:44,740 | 00:32:46,740 | 你是重要的中國國民黨書記長 |
| 00:32:47,880 | 00:32:49,880 | 你的總召開會一二三不來 |
| 00:32:51,760 | 00:32:53,760 | 你要很負責任的報告 |
| 00:32:53,760 | 00:32:55,760 | 你簽字你的同意有效還是無效 |
| 00:32:59,250 | 00:33:01,250 | 請你大聲說出來 |
| 00:33:01,580 | 00:33:03,580 | 沒辦法你開麥克風 |
| 00:33:04,020 | 00:33:06,020 | 總召不簽我簽字是沒有辦法的 |
| 00:33:06,020 | 00:33:08,020 | 是沒有辦法代表黨團的 |
| 00:33:23,750 | 00:33:25,750 | 可不可以想一想一個畫面 |
| 00:33:26,940 | 00:33:28,940 | 現在有個電影非常有名叫奧迪賽 |
| 00:33:29,640 | 00:33:31,640 | 蔡總召在電影院看電影 |
| 00:33:31,850 | 00:33:33,850 | 莊瑞雄書記長沒有被授權 |
| 00:33:33,850 | 00:33:35,850 | 打電話給蔡總召蔡總召一面看電影說 |
| 00:33:35,850 | 00:33:37,850 | 你可以簽你不能簽 |
| 00:33:40,910 | 00:33:42,910 | 陳青總總召去按摩院按摩 |
| 00:33:43,680 | 00:33:45,680 | 然後呢 |
| 00:33:45,300 | 00:33:49,300 | 書記長我還想邱慧如要打電話請問一下總召可不可以簽 |
| 00:33:49,710 | 00:33:51,710 | 你一面按摩一面說可以簽或者不能簽 |
| 00:33:53,840 | 00:33:55,840 | 你們副總召會不會正在打麻將 |
| 00:33:55,840 | 00:33:57,840 | 右手打麻將左手說可以簽或者不能簽 |
| 00:34:01,450 | 00:34:03,450 | 這法院 |
| 00:34:03,780 | 00:34:05,780 | 變態法治 |
| 00:34:06,210 | 00:34:08,210 | 拼了 |
| 00:34:08,520 | 00:34:10,520 | 還要遙控 |
| 00:34:14,710 | 00:34:16,710 | 你把我們院長其他黨團放在哪裡 |
| 00:34:16,710 | 00:34:18,710 | 這麼多官員都在這裡 |
| 00:34:19,639 | 00:34:21,639 | 你現在通知副總召 |
| 00:34:21,550 | 00:34:23,550 | 他有三個選擇 |
| 00:34:23,550 | 00:34:25,550 | 一本人來這沒話講 |
| 00:34:25,190 | 00:34:27,190 | 二不來授權給書記長 |
| 00:34:28,280 | 00:34:30,280 | 三 |
| 00:34:30,389 | 00:34:32,389 | 遲點總召嘛 |
| 00:34:32,550 | 00:34:34,550 | 總召不幹了嘛不是比較輕鬆嗎 |
| 00:34:36,750 | 00:34:38,750 | 哪有這樣子做呢 |
| 00:34:41,429 | 00:34:43,429 | 你以為君子的物本本是什麼嘛 |
| 00:34:45,340 | 00:34:47,340 | 你肩膀上有這個責任嘛 |
| 00:34:47,340 | 00:34:49,340 | 我們這麼辛苦只希望做三件事嘛 |
| 00:34:49,340 | 00:34:51,340 | 第一個希望國家進步 |
| 00:34:51,340 | 00:34:53,340 | 第一個希望政府清廉有效的執政 |
| 00:34:53,340 | 00:34:57,340 | 第三希望台灣人民經過立法院努力生活更好啊 |
| 00:34:57,340 | 00:34:59,340 | 我們不是來耍派頭的啊 |
| 00:34:59,340 | 00:35:01,340 | 拿了職權耍派頭啊 |
| 00:35:07,600 | 00:35:09,600 | 好謝謝代表的黨鞭都到了 |
| 00:35:09,600 | 00:35:11,600 | 我們要進行第三輪的協商 |
| 00:35:12,920 | 00:35:14,920 | 上一次的協商有請八個委員會整理 |
| 00:35:14,920 | 00:35:16,920 | 宣讀 |
| 00:35:17,300 | 00:35:19,300 | 宣讀本跟保留本 |
| 00:35:19,720 | 00:35:21,720 | 昨天送一個黨團已經確認 |
| 00:35:22,200 | 00:35:24,200 | 今天我們就以保留本來進行協商 |
| 00:35:27,120 | 00:35:29,120 | 我們首先要進行通案的部分 |
| 00:35:31,060 | 00:35:33,060 | 目前保留 |
| 00:35:33,130 | 00:35:35,130 | 有第三無人機 |
| 00:35:35,530 | 00:35:37,530 | 還有第五案的通商案 |
| 00:35:38,160 | 00:35:40,160 | 我們先來介紹列席的官員 |
| 00:35:41,550 | 00:35:43,550 | 首先我們再一次 |
| 00:35:43,730 | 00:35:45,730 | 歡迎新政院張秘書長 |
| 00:35:46,290 | 00:35:48,290 | 經濟部拱部長 |
| 00:35:48,440 | 00:35:50,440 | 足跡總處陳足跡長 |
| 00:35:51,050 | 00:35:53,050 | 國家發展委員會葉主委 |
| 00:35:54,290 | 00:35:56,290 | 檢察院黃秘書長 |
| 00:35:56,290 | 00:35:58,290 | 還有謝謝其他相關的列席官員 |
| 00:35:58,290 | 00:36:00,290 | 我們大家一起繼續努力 |
| 00:36:07,440 | 00:36:09,440 | 好請問一下國民黨團 |
| 00:36:10,070 | 00:36:12,070 | 第四案 |
| 00:36:12,250 | 00:36:14,250 | 無人機 |
| 00:36:14,900 | 00:36:16,900 | 主決議 |
| 00:36:27,000 | 00:36:29,000 | 現在主決議要求全數簡略 |
| 00:36:29,000 | 00:36:31,000 | 國民黨團這個等案 |
| 00:36:31,000 | 00:36:33,000 | 可不可以表達一下意見 |
| 00:36:39,870 | 00:36:41,870 | 請黨團表達意見 |
| 00:36:53,590 | 00:36:55,590 | 如果說沒有被授權的搖頭給我看 |
| 00:36:55,590 | 00:36:57,590 | 我就知道了 |
| 00:36:58,080 | 00:37:00,080 | 好 |
| 00:37:00,260 | 00:37:02,260 | 大家繼續發表 |
| 00:37:07,890 | 00:37:09,890 | 好麻煩台灣民眾黨 |
| 00:37:09,890 | 00:37:11,890 | 民眾黨稍微等一下 |
| 00:37:11,890 | 00:37:13,890 | 我們先到第五案之後再請您發言 |
| 00:37:13,890 | 00:37:15,890 | 第五案 |
| 00:37:15,890 | 00:37:17,890 | 台灣民眾黨團所提通案刪減項目比例修正 |
| 00:37:17,890 | 00:37:19,890 | 請問一下台灣民眾黨團 |
| 00:37:19,890 | 00:37:21,890 | 你重新提出來的一個 |
| 00:37:21,890 | 00:37:23,890 | 修正動議 |
| 00:37:23,890 | 00:37:25,890 | 你可不可以表達一下 |
| 00:37:25,890 | 00:37:27,890 | 好謝謝院長 |
| 00:37:27,890 | 00:37:29,890 | 有關於我們的第五案 |
| 00:37:29,890 | 00:37:31,890 | 由台灣民眾黨提出的 |
| 00:37:31,890 | 00:37:33,890 | 這個通案的 |
| 00:37:33,890 | 00:37:35,890 | 刪減 |
| 00:37:35,890 | 00:37:37,890 | 總共整理了 |
| 00:37:37,890 | 00:37:41,890 | 總共14個項目 |
| 00:37:41,890 | 00:37:43,890 | 最主要 |
| 00:37:43,890 | 00:37:47,890 | 我們包括大陸地區的旅費 |
| 00:37:47,890 | 00:37:51,890 | 國外的旅費跟出國交易的訓練經費 |
| 00:37:52,180 | 00:37:54,180 | 國內的旅費 |
| 00:37:54,180 | 00:37:56,180 | 第四項的特別費 |
| 00:37:56,180 | 00:37:58,180 | 還有我們依過去的慣例 |
| 00:37:58,180 | 00:38:00,180 | 我們三間房屋建築 |
| 00:38:00,180 | 00:38:02,180 | 養護車輛辦公器 |
| 00:38:02,180 | 00:38:04,180 | 去養護這樣的一個費用 |
| 00:38:04,180 | 00:38:06,180 | 還有第六項的 |
| 00:38:06,180 | 00:38:08,180 | 尾半費 |
| 00:38:08,180 | 00:38:10,180 | 第七項的軍事設備 |
| 00:38:10,180 | 00:38:12,180 | 跟設施及地表 |
| 00:38:12,180 | 00:38:14,180 | 項的一般 |
| 00:38:14,180 | 00:38:16,180 | 事務費 |
| 00:38:16,180 | 00:38:18,180 | 還有第九項的媒體政策 |
| 00:38:18,180 | 00:38:20,180 | 跟業務選擇費 |
| 00:38:20,180 | 00:38:22,180 | 第十項的設備及投資 |
| 00:38:22,180 | 00:38:24,180 | 我們做了一個 |
| 00:38:24,180 | 00:38:26,180 | 通算的比例 |
| 00:38:26,180 | 00:38:28,180 | 詳細的內容 |
| 00:38:28,180 | 00:38:30,180 | 我們已經在我們的 |
| 00:38:30,180 | 00:38:32,180 | 案有說明當中 |
| 00:38:32,180 | 00:38:34,180 | 一一的一個 |
| 00:38:34,180 | 00:38:36,180 | 詳閱 |
| 00:38:36,180 | 00:38:38,180 | 也請我們各黨會 |
| 00:38:38,180 | 00:38:40,180 | 各黨團做參考 |
| 00:38:42,550 | 00:38:44,550 | 主席總統長上次表達過 |
| 00:38:44,550 | 00:38:46,550 | 他所接受這個 |
| 00:38:46,550 | 00:38:48,550 | 數字跟陳總統表達 |
| 00:38:48,550 | 00:38:49,550 | 有差異 |
| 00:38:49,550 | 00:38:51,550 | 我們現在請張秘書長表達意見 |
| 00:38:53,200 | 00:38:55,200 | 謝謝韓院長 |
| 00:38:55,200 | 00:38:57,200 | 韓院長連續兩次都與眾欣賞 |
| 00:38:59,510 | 00:39:01,510 | 讓我也有所感慨喔 |
| 00:39:01,510 | 00:39:03,510 | 第一個我先回答第四案的部分 |
| 00:39:03,510 | 00:39:05,510 | 我這邊有一個提議 |
| 00:39:05,510 | 00:39:07,510 | 看各位委員還有院長 |
| 00:39:07,510 | 00:39:09,510 | 覺得如何 |
| 00:39:09,490 | 00:39:11,490 | 關於無人機的相關的法案 |
| 00:39:12,860 | 00:39:14,860 | 朝野政黨總共 |
| 00:39:14,860 | 00:39:16,860 | 有14個版本 |
| 00:39:17,550 | 00:39:19,550 | 法案名稱不同 |
| 00:39:20,560 | 00:39:22,560 | 主管機關不同 |
| 00:39:22,560 | 00:39:24,560 | 立法的主旨不同 |
| 00:39:24,560 | 00:39:26,560 | 甚至預算編列的額度也不同 |
| 00:39:26,560 | 00:39:28,560 | 那在委員會當中 |
| 00:39:28,560 | 00:39:30,560 | 因為沒有共識 |
| 00:39:30,560 | 00:39:32,560 | 所以全數保留送協商 |
| 00:39:32,560 | 00:39:34,560 | 那既然送協商 |
| 00:39:34,560 | 00:39:36,560 | 那我們就應該尊重韓國瑜院長協商的權限 |
| 00:39:37,670 | 00:39:39,670 | 那既然接下來或許很快 |
| 00:39:39,670 | 00:39:41,670 | 韓院長就會召集大家協商了 |
| 00:39:41,670 | 00:39:43,670 | 那所以 |
| 00:39:43,670 | 00:39:45,670 | 在協商沒有結果之前 |
| 00:39:45,670 | 00:39:47,670 | 是不是這個主決議我們先不要做 |
| 00:39:47,670 | 00:39:49,670 | 等協商的結果 |
| 00:39:49,670 | 00:39:51,670 | 我們再來做討論 |
| 00:39:51,670 | 00:39:53,670 | 這個方案能否 |
| 00:39:53,550 | 00:39:55,550 | 這個得到大家的共識跟支持 |
| 00:39:55,550 | 00:39:57,550 | 我們共同來尊重韓院長 |
| 00:39:57,550 | 00:39:59,550 | 朝野14個無人機的版本 |
| 00:39:59,550 | 00:40:01,550 | 大家一起理性來討論 |
| 00:40:01,550 | 00:40:03,550 | 看看有沒有這個空間 |
| 00:40:03,550 | 00:40:05,550 | 這是第一個就第四案的部分 |
| 00:40:05,550 | 00:40:07,550 | 我做一個提議跟說明 |
| 00:40:07,550 | 00:40:09,550 | 第二個 |
| 00:40:09,550 | 00:40:11,550 | 在第二輪朝野協商的時候 |
| 00:40:12,990 | 00:40:14,990 | 韓院長也曾經與眾欣嘗 |
| 00:40:15,670 | 00:40:17,670 | 跟翁曉玲委員說 |
| 00:40:17,670 | 00:40:19,670 | 今年只剩四個月了 |
| 00:40:19,670 | 00:40:21,670 | 如果要大幅煽動 |
| 00:40:21,670 | 00:40:23,670 | 要不要再思考一下 |
| 00:40:23,670 | 00:40:25,670 | 所以謝謝民眾黨團 |
| 00:40:25,670 | 00:40:27,670 | 在通商案的部分 |
| 00:40:27,030 | 00:40:29,030 | 數字有做了一些調整 |
| 00:40:29,030 | 00:40:31,030 | 但是仍然超過 |
| 00:40:31,030 | 00:40:33,030 | 過往刪除的比例 |
| 00:40:33,030 | 00:40:35,030 | 仍有一定的比例 |
| 00:40:35,030 | 00:40:37,030 | 所以能否請朝野立委 |
| 00:40:37,030 | 00:40:39,030 | 能夠三思而行 |
| 00:40:39,030 | 00:40:41,030 | 今年只剩下三分之一 |
| 00:40:41,030 | 00:40:43,030 | 因此通商的項目 |
| 00:40:43,030 | 00:40:45,030 | 的比例 |
| 00:40:45,690 | 00:40:47,690 | 母數應該以三分之一為上限 |
| 00:40:49,770 | 00:40:51,770 | 而不是以三分之一為下限 |
| 00:40:51,770 | 00:40:53,770 | 這樣才能夠 |
| 00:40:53,770 | 00:40:55,770 | 讓行政部門能夠好好的做事 |
| 00:40:55,770 | 00:40:57,770 | 我也要跟大家報告 |
| 00:40:59,160 | 00:41:01,160 | 韓院長為了預算能夠通過 |
| 00:41:01,160 | 00:41:03,160 | 心急如焚 |
| 00:41:03,160 | 00:41:05,160 | 本來應該是去年聖誕節 |
| 00:41:06,570 | 00:41:08,570 | 要刪除通過的 |
| 00:41:08,570 | 00:41:10,570 | 現在父親節都已經過了 |
| 00:41:10,570 | 00:41:12,570 | 還沒有通過 |
| 00:41:12,570 | 00:41:14,570 | 很多款項已經付清了 |
| 00:41:15,630 | 00:41:17,630 | 那接下來這些核銷的問題 |
| 00:41:17,630 | 00:41:19,630 | 處理的問題 |
| 00:41:19,630 | 00:41:21,630 | 調度的問題應該怎麼辦 |
| 00:41:21,630 | 00:41:23,630 | 那既然今年只剩下三分之一了 |
| 00:41:23,630 | 00:41:25,630 | 是否能夠請朝野的立委 |
| 00:41:25,630 | 00:41:27,630 | 能夠再思考一下 |
| 00:41:27,630 | 00:41:29,630 | 以上說明 |
| 00:41:41,720 | 00:41:43,720 | 主要是 |
| 00:41:43,720 | 00:41:45,720 | 今天做好了 |
| 00:41:45,720 | 00:41:47,720 | 因為現在我們做了開會 |
| 00:41:47,660 | 00:41:49,660 | 主要這個部分 |
| 00:41:49,660 | 00:41:51,660 | 因為我們執行到現在已經到 |
| 00:41:51,660 | 00:41:53,660 | 快要到八月中下旬了 |
| 00:41:53,660 | 00:41:55,660 | 那很多的業務都已經執行完畢 |
| 00:41:55,660 | 00:41:57,660 | 那你現在有的刪的 |
| 00:41:57,660 | 00:41:59,660 | 達到百分之七十或者六十的部分 |
| 00:41:59,660 | 00:42:01,660 | 那這個部分我們現在是有困難 |
| 00:42:01,660 | 00:42:03,660 | 那我是建議是不是 |
| 00:42:03,660 | 00:42:05,660 | 就下半 |
| 00:42:05,660 | 00:42:07,660 | 就是九十、十一、十二的 |
| 00:42:07,660 | 00:42:09,660 | 這個部分去刪減 |
| 00:42:09,660 | 00:42:11,660 | 這樣子 |
| 00:42:11,660 | 00:42:13,660 | 那這樣子整個將來他有一些執行的 |
| 00:42:13,660 | 00:42:15,660 | 才不會造成困擾 |
| 00:42:15,660 | 00:42:17,660 | 那我剛剛就是說是不是也能夠 |
| 00:42:17,660 | 00:42:19,660 | 降低他的額度 |
| 00:42:19,660 | 00:42:21,660 | 因為額度的部分他以往 |
| 00:42:21,660 | 00:42:23,660 | 大概都是百分之一到 |
| 00:42:23,660 | 00:42:25,660 | 一點一到一點一二 |
| 00:42:25,660 | 00:42:27,660 | 那這樣的額度 |
| 00:42:27,660 | 00:42:29,660 | 大概是三百四十一億 |
| 00:42:29,660 | 00:42:31,660 | 左右 |
| 00:42:31,660 | 00:42:33,660 | 因為他是有扣除那個勞保 |
| 00:42:33,660 | 00:42:35,660 | 還有那個七百一十八億的部分 |
| 00:42:35,660 | 00:42:37,660 | 那如果這個額度是三百四十一億 |
| 00:42:37,660 | 00:42:41,660 | 就比較跟一四一一三的差不多 |
| 00:42:41,660 | 00:42:43,660 | 刪減的額度是相當 |
| 00:42:43,660 | 00:42:45,660 | 那這個部分我們也是在看 |
| 00:42:45,660 | 00:42:47,660 | 是說如果說刪減後面四個月 |
| 00:42:47,660 | 00:42:49,660 | 那這額度不足的部分 |
| 00:42:49,660 | 00:42:51,660 | 授權我們自行調整 |
| 00:42:51,660 | 00:42:53,660 | 這樣執行比較沒有困難 |
| 00:42:53,660 | 00:42:55,660 | 謝謝 |
| 00:42:55,660 | 00:42:57,660 | 這個麻煩陳總召主席長所講的 |
| 00:42:57,660 | 00:42:59,660 | 跟您所剛才的表示是有落差 |
| 00:42:59,660 | 00:43:01,660 | 這一點您要不要再思考 |
| 00:43:01,660 | 00:43:03,660 | 謝謝院長給我一個機會 |
| 00:43:03,660 | 00:43:05,660 | 也再做一個說明 |
| 00:43:05,660 | 00:43:07,660 | 忘了祝福你三成的服務處一切順利 |
| 00:43:07,660 | 00:43:09,660 | 謝謝院長 |
| 00:43:09,660 | 00:43:11,660 | 謝謝 |
| 00:43:11,660 | 00:43:13,660 | 謝謝院長 |
| 00:43:13,660 | 00:43:15,660 | 那在這裡我們在 |
| 00:43:15,660 | 00:43:17,660 | 大陸地區旅費的部分 |
| 00:43:17,660 | 00:43:19,660 | 包括我們要參加 |
| 00:43:19,660 | 00:43:21,660 | APPE會議的部分 |
| 00:43:21,660 | 00:43:23,660 | 我們是全部不刪 |
| 00:43:23,660 | 00:43:25,660 | 全部支持 |
| 00:43:25,660 | 00:43:27,660 | 我們會根據國家 |
| 00:43:27,660 | 00:43:29,660 | 國外旅費 |
| 00:43:29,660 | 00:43:31,660 | 我們大陸旅費一個充電 |
| 00:43:31,660 | 00:43:33,660 | 那國外旅費的部分 |
| 00:43:33,660 | 00:43:35,660 | 那個主席長剛剛所提的 |
| 00:43:35,660 | 00:43:37,660 | 百分之七十最主要是 |
| 00:43:37,660 | 00:43:39,660 | 針對我們僑委會 |
| 00:43:39,660 | 00:43:41,660 | 跟大陸委員會 |
| 00:43:41,660 | 00:43:43,660 | 那這兩個委員會 |
| 00:43:43,660 | 00:43:45,660 | 我還記得希望各位記得 |
| 00:43:45,660 | 00:43:47,660 | 我們陸委會的副主委 |
| 00:43:47,660 | 00:43:49,660 | 親自公開講 |
| 00:43:50,200 | 00:43:52,200 | Vega |
| 00:43:51,420 | 00:43:53,420 | 該刪就刪 |
| 00:43:53,420 | 00:43:55,420 | 就刪吧 |
| 00:43:55,420 | 00:43:57,420 | 那我們也就跟照我們 |
| 00:43:57,420 | 00:43:59,420 | 陸委會自己 |
| 00:43:59,420 | 00:44:01,420 | 副主委提出來的 |
| 00:44:01,420 | 00:44:03,420 | 就刪就刪吧 |
| 00:44:03,420 | 00:44:05,420 | 我們才刪百分之七十喔 |
| 00:44:05,420 | 00:44:07,420 | 這個部分 |
| 00:44:07,420 | 00:44:09,420 | 就有陸委會 |
| 00:44:09,420 | 00:44:11,420 | 自己認為自己的理會可以刪啊 |
| 00:44:11,420 | 00:44:13,420 | 我們就刪 |
| 00:44:13,420 | 00:44:15,420 | 但是我們沒有刪百分之百 |
| 00:44:15,420 | 00:44:17,420 | 我們刪百分之七十 |
| 00:44:17,420 | 00:44:19,420 | 好謝謝 |
| 00:44:19,420 | 00:44:21,420 | 發言我們請陳一貞委員請發言 |
| 00:44:21,510 | 00:44:23,510 | 我們蘇醫長請我發言 |
| 00:44:23,510 | 00:44:25,510 | 我是覺得說我們事實上也是 |
| 00:44:25,510 | 00:44:27,510 | 非常的同情這些基層的 |
| 00:44:27,510 | 00:44:29,510 | 公務人員 |
| 00:44:29,510 | 00:44:31,510 | 這個都已經八月份了 |
| 00:44:31,510 | 00:44:33,510 | 陳盧秘書長所說都已經是 |
| 00:44:33,510 | 00:44:35,510 | 父親節了 |
| 00:44:35,510 | 00:44:37,510 | 那當然有的預算也已經 |
| 00:44:36,860 | 00:44:38,860 | 執行了嘛 |
| 00:44:38,860 | 00:44:40,860 | 但是我覺得每次來這邊 |
| 00:44:40,860 | 00:44:42,860 | 做協商的時候 |
| 00:44:42,860 | 00:44:44,860 | 我們是要創造和諧的氣氛 |
| 00:44:44,860 | 00:44:46,860 | 大家一起幫國家做事 |
| 00:44:46,860 | 00:44:48,860 | 但每次秘書長一開始就要開始 |
| 00:44:49,330 | 00:44:51,330 | 有點責怪說為什麼什麼生誕節 |
| 00:44:51,330 | 00:44:53,330 | 應該過父親節什麼才還沒有過 |
| 00:44:53,330 | 00:44:55,330 | 也沒有想過是因為你們 |
| 00:44:55,330 | 00:44:57,330 | 根本不尊重立法院 |
| 00:44:57,330 | 00:44:59,330 | 我們要求三讀通過的法案 |
| 00:44:59,330 | 00:45:01,330 | 依法執行依法編列預算 |
| 00:45:01,330 | 00:45:03,330 | 不要再從我說 |
| 00:45:03,330 | 00:45:05,330 | 這是什麼軍人的家心 |
| 00:45:05,330 | 00:45:07,330 | 公教警消的這些待遇啦 |
| 00:45:07,330 | 00:45:09,330 | 還有三讀通過 |
| 00:45:09,330 | 00:45:11,330 | 公布的法案應該執行應該編列 |
| 00:45:11,330 | 00:45:13,330 | 因為是因為你們沒有編預算 |
| 00:45:13,330 | 00:45:15,330 | 我們為了維持 |
| 00:45:15,330 | 00:45:17,330 | 立法院的尊嚴 |
| 00:45:17,330 | 00:45:19,330 | 所以要求你們編預算才開始審 |
| 00:45:20,770 | 00:45:22,770 | 實作用者是誰呢? |
| 00:45:22,760 | 00:45:24,760 | 誰不願意很快審預算呢? |
| 00:45:25,710 | 00:45:27,710 | 我實在不是很願意在一開始都講這 |
| 00:45:27,710 | 00:45:29,710 | 因為我們來這邊是希望很多預算可以 |
| 00:45:29,710 | 00:45:31,710 | 看怎麼樣有做的我們讓它通過 |
| 00:45:31,710 | 00:45:33,710 | 可是你每一次就是一定要來重講說 |
| 00:45:33,710 | 00:45:35,710 | 都是立法院在延遲 |
| 00:45:35,710 | 00:45:37,710 | 沒有過預算 |
| 00:45:37,710 | 00:45:39,710 | 都沒有講說是因為行政院 |
| 00:45:39,710 | 00:45:41,710 | 不依法編列應該通過 |
| 00:45:41,710 | 00:45:43,710 | 三讀通過法令應該編列算都不編列 |
| 00:45:43,710 | 00:45:45,710 | 所以才會僵持到今天嘛 |
| 00:45:47,030 | 00:45:49,030 | 我當然是想去啦 |
| 00:45:49,030 | 00:45:51,030 | 我站在立法院立場我覺得是立法院的尊嚴問題 |
| 00:45:51,920 | 00:45:53,920 | 是不是?所以如果一開始 |
| 00:45:53,920 | 00:45:55,920 | 每次都要演這一齣先講說 |
| 00:45:55,920 | 00:45:57,920 | 都是你們八月份十二月份 |
| 00:45:57,920 | 00:46:01,920 | 把所有的貴的帽子都扣在立法院的身上 |
| 00:46:01,920 | 00:46:03,920 | 這個我都聽不下去 |
| 00:46:03,920 | 00:46:05,920 | 我是一個想要來幫助一些預算解決的人 |
| 00:46:05,920 | 00:46:07,920 | 聽了都會覺得說 |
| 00:46:08,290 | 00:46:10,290 | 這是在幹嘛? |
| 00:46:10,640 | 00:46:12,640 | 陳醫生委員提出的是因跟果的問題 |
| 00:46:12,640 | 00:46:14,640 | 是什麼因什麼果 |
| 00:46:14,640 | 00:46:16,640 | 來請莊惠雄 |
| 00:46:16,640 | 00:46:18,640 | 謝謝院長還有各黨團的協商代表 |
| 00:46:18,640 | 00:46:20,640 | 今天氣氛應該是會比較不錯啦 |
| 00:46:20,640 | 00:46:24,640 | 其實陳慶龍總召剛提到 |
| 00:46:24,640 | 00:46:26,640 | 我都有聽到啦 |
| 00:46:26,640 | 00:46:28,640 | 但是修正一下 |
| 00:46:28,640 | 00:46:30,640 | 梁文傑有講沒有錯 |
| 00:46:30,640 | 00:46:32,640 | 你就把他砍梁文傑的旅費 |
| 00:46:32,640 | 00:46:34,640 | 我給你支持 |
| 00:46:34,640 | 00:46:36,640 | 其他人就不要 |
| 00:46:36,640 | 00:46:38,640 | 我叫梁文傑不要出去了 |
| 00:46:38,640 | 00:46:40,640 | 陳醫生委員當然會有不一樣的看法啦 |
| 00:46:40,640 | 00:46:42,640 | 但是在憲政機關裡面 |
| 00:46:42,640 | 00:46:44,640 | 行政院確實他的認知 |
| 00:46:44,640 | 00:46:46,640 | 跟立法院認知不一樣 |
| 00:46:46,640 | 00:46:48,640 | 立法院當然希望為民喉舌 |
| 00:46:48,640 | 00:46:50,640 | 多爭取一些 |
| 00:46:50,640 | 00:46:52,640 | 站在行政院的立場 |
| 00:46:52,640 | 00:46:54,640 | 他認為有一些預算的編列 |
| 00:46:54,640 | 00:46:56,640 | 他的權限被立法院侵犯到 |
| 00:46:56,640 | 00:46:58,640 | 你看我現在跟你陳醫生說 |
| 00:46:58,640 | 00:47:00,640 | 這麼輕聲 |
| 00:47:00,640 | 00:47:02,640 | 但我進入重點 |
| 00:47:02,640 | 00:47:04,640 | 院長我們所有各個部會裡面 |
| 00:47:04,640 | 00:47:06,640 | 我們在協商我們出現一個問題 |
| 00:47:06,640 | 00:47:08,640 | 就是預算的一個編列數 |
| 00:47:08,640 | 00:47:10,640 | 常常在我們這個 |
| 00:47:10,640 | 00:47:12,640 | 各委員會裡面 |
| 00:47:12,640 | 00:47:14,640 | 其實他已經做決定了 |
| 00:47:14,640 | 00:47:16,640 | 結果我們到朝野協商裡面 |
| 00:47:16,640 | 00:47:18,640 | 我們的案子又提出來 |
| 00:47:18,640 | 00:47:20,640 | 當然都是權限沒有錯啦 |
| 00:47:20,640 | 00:47:22,640 | 可是碰到一個問題 |
| 00:47:23,180 | 00:47:25,180 | 各個委員會裡面 |
| 00:47:25,180 | 00:47:27,180 | 其實各黨團在朝野協商的時候 |
| 00:47:27,180 | 00:47:29,180 | 應該可以適度的去做一個尊重 |
| 00:47:29,180 | 00:47:31,180 | 你像比如說我在交通委員會 |
| 00:47:31,180 | 00:47:33,180 | 像蘇發布就好了 |
| 00:47:33,180 | 00:47:35,180 | 你交通委員會把它砍了多少 |
| 00:47:35,180 | 00:47:37,180 | 那我們在這邊大家各黨團 |
| 00:47:37,180 | 00:47:39,180 | 再加碼又把它再砍掉 |
| 00:47:39,180 | 00:47:41,180 | 這產生讓他 |
| 00:47:41,180 | 00:47:43,180 | 也不曉得該怎麼辦 |
| 00:47:43,180 | 00:47:45,180 | 對交通委員會各委員會來講可能也不太好 |
| 00:47:45,860 | 00:47:47,860 | 不太尊重 |
| 00:47:47,860 | 00:47:49,860 | 另外就變成說 |
| 00:47:49,860 | 00:47:51,860 | 我們這個通三數 |
| 00:47:51,860 | 00:47:53,860 | 各黨一個黨團裡面 |
| 00:47:53,860 | 00:47:55,860 | 可能黨團裡面的提案裡面 |
| 00:47:55,860 | 00:47:57,860 | 三個一億 |
| 00:47:57,860 | 00:47:59,860 | 然後黨團各個成員就三個五千 |
| 00:47:59,860 | 00:48:01,860 | 各個黨團又不一樣 |
| 00:48:01,860 | 00:48:03,860 | 所以我們到最後就弄一個通三 |
| 00:48:03,860 | 00:48:05,860 | 弄一個通三以後你會發現 |
| 00:48:05,860 | 00:48:07,860 | 數字全部 |
| 00:48:07,860 | 00:48:09,860 | 會產生一個重大影響就是說 |
| 00:48:09,860 | 00:48:11,860 | 你現在各個部會都在講 |
| 00:48:11,860 | 00:48:13,860 | 我已經發生了契約數 |
| 00:48:13,860 | 00:48:15,860 | 怎麼辦就我已經執行了 |
| 00:48:15,860 | 00:48:17,860 | 怎麼辦 |
| 00:48:17,380 | 00:48:19,380 | 你像蘇發布你一堆大錢都花光了 |
| 00:48:19,380 | 00:48:21,380 | 他花光了 |
| 00:48:21,380 | 00:48:23,380 | 你預算沒有他也不怕你 |
| 00:48:23,380 | 00:48:25,380 | 你知道嗎 |
| 00:48:24,810 | 00:48:26,810 | 各黨團各協商代表 |
| 00:48:26,810 | 00:48:28,810 | 他已經花了你說要追究他 |
| 00:48:28,810 | 00:48:30,810 | 他也沒有責任 |
| 00:48:30,810 | 00:48:32,810 | 只是我們現在在審預算 |
| 00:48:32,810 | 00:48:34,810 | 是不是我們也要考量到說 |
| 00:48:34,810 | 00:48:36,810 | 整個所有的行政的 |
| 00:48:36,810 | 00:48:38,810 | 機關政府 |
| 00:48:38,810 | 00:48:40,810 | 本來就是要去做一個運作 |
| 00:48:40,810 | 00:48:42,810 | 已發生的這些契約的全擇數 |
| 00:48:42,810 | 00:48:44,810 | 的部分我們就把他們倒手了 |
| 00:48:44,810 | 00:48:46,810 | 我們就把他們倒手了 |
| 00:48:46,810 | 00:48:48,810 | 另外你說可以在刪減的部分 |
| 00:48:48,810 | 00:48:50,810 | 院長一直在強調說 |
| 00:48:50,810 | 00:48:52,810 | 我們已經過了三分之二了 |
| 00:48:52,810 | 00:48:54,810 | 現在三分之一了 |
| 00:48:54,810 | 00:48:56,810 | 請這個部分我是剛好 |
| 00:48:56,810 | 00:48:58,810 | 舉這個蘇發布案例來跟各黨協商代表 |
| 00:48:58,810 | 00:49:00,810 | 來跟大家很委婉的做一個說明 |
| 00:49:00,810 | 00:49:02,810 | 我們立法院 |
| 00:49:02,810 | 00:49:04,810 | 我們不只是說謊 |
| 00:49:04,810 | 00:49:06,810 | 我們 |
| 00:49:06,300 | 00:49:08,300 | 哪怕我們就行政院把它當空氣 |
| 00:49:08,300 | 00:49:10,300 | 我們也要把這個國家 |
| 00:49:10,300 | 00:49:12,300 | 把它當成說我們要讓它維持 |
| 00:49:12,300 | 00:49:14,300 | 一個基本的一個運作以上 |
| 00:49:14,300 | 00:49:16,300 | 報告完畢 |
| 00:49:16,300 | 00:49:18,300 | 謝謝各位黨團幹部 |
| 00:49:18,300 | 00:49:20,300 | 其實這個是可能是最後一次的 |
| 00:49:20,300 | 00:49:22,300 | 黨團協商 |
| 00:49:22,300 | 00:49:24,300 | 即將要處理 |
| 00:49:24,300 | 00:49:26,300 | 那我是覺得在 |
| 00:49:26,760 | 00:49:28,760 | 通案保留的部分 |
| 00:49:28,760 | 00:49:30,760 | 各黨團的意見還是不一致 |
| 00:49:30,760 | 00:49:32,760 | 主計長也提出 |
| 00:49:32,760 | 00:49:34,760 | 他的想法 |
| 00:49:34,760 | 00:49:36,760 | 當然張秘書長也提出他的看法 |
| 00:49:36,760 | 00:49:38,760 | 陳奕臻委員也提出了因果的問題 |
| 00:49:38,760 | 00:49:40,760 | 我想這些都值得我們綜合去考慮 |
| 00:49:40,760 | 00:49:42,760 | 但是我們先把情緒 |
| 00:49:42,760 | 00:49:44,760 | 部分拿開回歸到理性 |
| 00:49:44,760 | 00:49:46,760 | 部分啊今年過了 |
| 00:49:46,760 | 00:49:48,760 | 十二分之八了剩下十二分 |
| 00:49:48,760 | 00:49:50,760 | 之四我想大家從這個 |
| 00:49:50,760 | 00:49:52,760 | 基礎點來思考一下 |
| 00:49:52,760 | 00:49:54,760 | 我們是不是休息一下大家 |
| 00:49:54,760 | 00:49:56,760 | 難得每個黨團都在這邊 |
| 00:49:56,760 | 00:49:58,760 | 可以大家直接面對面的討論一下 |
| 00:49:58,760 | 00:50:00,760 | 還有行政官員我們先休息 |
| 00:50:00,760 | 00:50:02,760 | 大家開始討論通案保留 |
| 00:50:02,760 | 00:50:04,760 | 部分好嗎好我們休息 |
| 01:16:00,670 | 01:16:02,670 | 謝謝各位黨團各位謝謝 |
| 01:16:02,670 | 01:16:04,670 | 謝謝各位練習官員 |
| 01:25:00,600 | 01:25:02,600 | 好再次感謝各黨團的干杯 |
| 01:25:02,600 | 01:25:04,600 | 謝謝各位練習的行政官員 |
| 01:25:04,600 | 01:25:06,600 | 再次感謝我們現在繼續協商 |
| 01:25:06,600 | 01:25:08,600 | 剛才保留的無人機 |
| 01:25:08,600 | 01:25:10,600 | 還有通山的部分各黨團 |
| 01:25:10,600 | 01:25:12,600 | 已經有原則共識我們正在 |
| 01:25:12,600 | 01:25:14,600 | 斟酌確認文字之中 |
| 01:25:14,600 | 01:25:16,600 | 未來兩天還要 |
| 01:25:16,600 | 01:25:18,600 | 在院會處理之前要特別拜託 |
| 01:25:18,600 | 01:25:20,600 | 各行政單位跟各黨團 |
| 01:25:20,600 | 01:25:22,600 | 還有提案委員 |
| 01:25:22,600 | 01:25:24,600 | 跟提案的委員一定要保持密切 |
| 01:25:24,600 | 01:25:26,600 | 的溝通二要跟大家 |
| 01:25:26,600 | 01:25:28,600 | 報告開始進行各委員會保留部分 |
| 01:25:28,600 | 01:25:30,600 | 協商其中各委員會 |
| 01:25:30,600 | 01:25:32,600 | 並通山的部分我們原則上 |
| 01:25:32,600 | 01:25:34,600 | 就並剛才通山共識 |
| 01:25:34,600 | 01:25:36,600 | 的部分處理我們不再保留 |
| 01:25:36,600 | 01:25:38,600 | 除非各黨團 |
| 01:25:38,600 | 01:25:40,600 | 有特別表示要求 |
| 01:25:40,600 | 01:25:42,600 | 保留由院會進行處理 |
| 01:25:42,600 | 01:25:44,600 | 這句話非常重要請大家聽一下 |
| 01:25:44,600 | 01:25:46,600 | 我們現在就要開始從內政 |
| 01:25:46,600 | 01:25:48,600 | 委員會要開始請內政委員會 |
| 01:25:48,600 | 01:25:50,600 | 所有的相關官員請練習 |
| 01:25:53,370 | 01:25:55,370 | 謝謝 |
| 01:26:30,270 | 01:26:32,270 | 好謝謝再次謝謝我們 |
| 01:26:32,270 | 01:26:34,270 | 練習的張秘書長陳主席長 |
| 01:26:34,270 | 01:26:36,270 | 我們現在第一 |
| 01:26:36,270 | 01:26:38,270 | 我們進入行政院主管 |
| 01:26:38,270 | 01:26:40,270 | 行政院第一案 |
| 01:26:40,270 | 01:26:42,270 | 高金樹梅 |
| 01:26:42,270 | 01:26:44,270 | 檢列一千萬 |
| 01:26:44,270 | 01:26:46,270 | 凍結一千萬第二案高金樹梅 |
| 01:26:46,270 | 01:26:48,270 | 委員所提凍結五百萬 |
| 01:26:48,270 | 01:26:50,270 | 第三病通案辦理第四病通案 |
| 01:26:50,270 | 01:26:52,270 | 辦理第五病通案辦理第六病通案 |
| 01:26:52,270 | 01:26:54,270 | 辦理第七全數 |
| 01:26:54,270 | 01:26:56,270 | 檢列九月至十二月份 |
| 01:26:56,270 | 01:26:58,270 | 業務會及院長特別會 |
| 01:26:59,150 | 01:27:01,150 | 第八臺灣民眾黨凍結 |
| 01:27:01,150 | 01:27:03,150 | 三千六百五十五萬九千元 |
| 01:27:03,150 | 01:27:05,150 | 第九檢列一百萬 |
| 01:27:06,350 | 01:27:08,350 | 排除災害防救及國土安全 |
| 01:27:08,350 | 01:27:10,350 | 消保及食安業務 |
| 01:27:12,160 | 01:27:14,160 | 第十檢列五百萬 |
| 01:27:14,160 | 01:27:16,160 | 第十一檢列三百五十萬 |
| 01:27:16,160 | 01:27:18,160 | 第十二檢列六百六十萬 |
| 01:27:18,160 | 01:27:20,160 | 第十三檢列七百萬 |
| 01:27:20,160 | 01:27:22,160 | 第十四檢列五百萬 |
| 01:27:22,160 | 01:27:24,160 | 第十六病通案辦理 |
| 01:27:24,160 | 01:27:26,160 | 第十七病通案辦理 |
| 01:27:26,160 | 01:27:28,160 | 第十八病通案辦理 |
| 01:27:28,160 | 01:27:30,160 | 第十九二十病通案辦理 |
| 01:27:30,160 | 01:27:32,160 | 二十二檢列五十萬 |
| 01:27:32,160 | 01:27:34,160 | 二十三二十四病通案辦理 |
| 01:27:34,160 | 01:27:36,160 | 我們進入一般行政二十五案 |
| 01:27:38,600 | 01:27:40,600 | 凍結一百四十八萬八千元 |
| 01:27:42,090 | 01:27:44,090 | 請 林佩祥署長請發言 |
| 01:27:44,090 | 01:27:46,090 | 在這邊針對內政委員會 |
| 01:27:46,090 | 01:27:48,090 | 我們這邊有特別有十五案 |
| 01:27:48,090 | 01:27:50,090 | 那要去做那個 |
| 01:27:51,880 | 01:27:53,880 | 特別要求保留 |
| 01:27:53,880 | 01:27:55,880 | 是第三案 第九案 |
| 01:27:56,610 | 01:27:58,610 | 三九十 |
| 01:27:58,610 | 01:28:00,610 | 十一十二 |
| 01:28:00,610 | 01:28:02,610 | 十三十四 |
| 01:28:02,610 | 01:28:04,610 | 二十二 |
| 01:28:04,610 | 01:28:06,610 | 二十五三十七五十三 |
| 01:28:06,610 | 01:28:08,610 | 七十二八十四 |
| 01:28:08,610 | 01:28:10,610 | 一百四十八跟兩百一十 |
| 01:28:14,650 | 01:28:16,650 | 其他病通案 |
| 01:28:20,920 | 01:28:22,920 | 三十案凍結五百萬 |
| 01:28:22,920 | 01:28:24,920 | 三十一案病通 |
| 01:28:24,920 | 01:28:28,920 | 三十一三十二三三三四三五三六病通案辦理 |
| 01:28:28,920 | 01:28:30,920 | 三十七案就保留 |
| 01:28:30,920 | 01:28:32,920 | 三十八案檢列七百一十八萬五千元 |
| 01:28:34,640 | 01:28:36,640 | 三十九案 |
| 01:28:37,360 | 01:28:39,360 | 檢列六百五十八萬八千元 |
| 01:28:39,360 | 01:28:41,360 | 四十案檢列一百萬元 |
| 01:28:41,360 | 01:28:43,360 | 四十一案凍結七百萬元 |
| 01:28:43,360 | 01:28:45,360 | 四十四案凍結兩百萬元 |
| 01:28:45,360 | 01:28:47,360 | 四十五案凍結百分之五七十一萬九千元 |
| 01:28:47,360 | 01:28:49,360 | 四十六案凍結百分之五七十一萬九千元 |
| 01:28:49,360 | 01:28:51,360 | 四十七案凍結百分之五七十一萬九千元 |
| 01:28:51,360 | 01:28:53,360 | 四十九案凍結百分之三 |
| 01:28:53,360 | 01:28:55,360 | 四十三案一千元 |
| 01:28:55,360 | 01:28:57,360 | 五十二案凍結一百萬元 |
| 01:28:57,360 | 01:28:59,360 | 五十三案檢列五百五十三萬五千元 |
| 01:28:59,360 | 01:29:01,360 | 五十四案凍結百分之十六十一萬五千元 |
| 01:29:01,360 | 01:29:03,360 | 六十六案全數凍結 |
| 01:29:03,360 | 01:29:05,360 | 六十八案 |
| 01:29:05,420 | 01:29:07,420 | 凍結百分之十一百四十三萬三千元 |
| 01:29:07,420 | 01:29:09,420 | 六十九案凍結百分之十五三萬元 |
| 01:29:09,420 | 01:29:13,420 | 七十一案凍結百分之二十三十六萬一千元 |
| 01:29:13,420 | 01:29:15,420 | 七十二案全數檢列 |
| 01:29:15,420 | 01:29:17,420 | 七十三案全數檢列 |
| 01:29:17,420 | 01:29:21,420 | 七十四案檢列四千兩百三十九萬五千元 |
| 01:29:21,420 | 01:29:23,420 | 七十五案檢列兩千六百萬元 |
| 01:29:23,420 | 01:29:25,420 | 七十六案檢列五百萬元凍結五百萬元 |
| 01:29:25,420 | 01:29:29,420 | 七十七案凍結百分之十五百二十五萬五千元 |
| 01:29:29,420 | 01:29:31,420 | 八十案並通案辦理 |
| 01:29:31,420 | 01:29:33,420 | 八十一案凍結一百萬元 |
| 01:29:33,420 | 01:29:37,420 | 八十二案凍結十分之一一百六十萬四千元 |
| 01:29:37,420 | 01:29:39,420 | 八十三案凍結十分之一六十六萬四千元 |
| 01:29:39,420 | 01:29:41,420 | 八十四案全數檢列 |
| 01:29:41,420 | 01:29:43,420 | 八十五案檢列六百五十萬元 |
| 01:29:43,420 | 01:29:47,420 | 九十三案凍結百分之五六十五萬八千元 |
| 01:29:47,420 | 01:29:49,420 | 九十一案凍結百分之五六十五萬八千元 |
| 01:29:49,420 | 01:29:51,420 | 九十五案並通案辦理 |
| 01:29:51,420 | 01:29:53,420 | 九十六案全數凍結 |
| 01:29:53,420 | 01:29:55,420 | 九十八案凍結一百萬元 |
| 01:29:55,420 | 01:29:59,420 | 九十九案全數檢列並通案辦理 |
| 01:29:59,420 | 01:30:03,420 | 一百案全數檢列並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:04,130 | 01:30:06,130 | 好,我們進入客委會134案 |
| 01:30:06,130 | 01:30:08,130 | 並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:08,130 | 01:30:12,130 | 我們進入148案、149案、150案、151案 |
| 01:30:13,400 | 01:30:17,400 | 並通案辦理、152案全數檢列 |
| 01:30:17,850 | 01:30:19,850 | 謝謝 |
| 01:30:19,230 | 01:30:24,230 | 港澳聯繫服務之推動與執行9月至12月的業務費 |
| 01:30:24,230 | 01:30:26,230 | 153、154、155 |
| 01:30:27,420 | 01:30:29,420 | 156並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:31,220 | 01:30:39,220 | 157、158、159、160、168、176、178、180並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:39,220 | 01:30:42,220 | 181案檢列一億兩千萬元 |
| 01:30:42,220 | 01:30:44,220 | 182案檢列五百萬元 |
| 01:30:44,220 | 01:30:48,220 | 183案檢列一千八百零八萬元 |
| 01:30:49,530 | 01:30:51,530 | 184案檢列四百萬元 |
| 01:30:51,530 | 01:30:53,530 | 187案並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:53,530 | 01:30:55,530 | 188、189 |
| 01:30:56,820 | 01:30:58,820 | 並通案辦理 |
| 01:30:58,820 | 01:31:01,820 | 194、195、196、198並通案辦理 |
| 01:31:01,820 | 01:31:05,820 | 201、202並通案辦理 |
| 01:31:07,190 | 01:31:33,519 | 我們進入不當黨常委員會209案、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、209、 |
| 01:31:35,480 | 01:31:40,219 | 249、254、255、264、269 |
| 01:31:40,219 | 01:31:41,719 | 並通案辦理 |
| 01:31:41,719 | 01:31:44,419 | 277凍結十三分之九 |
| 01:31:44,419 | 01:31:48,480 | 7億9,878萬3千元 |
| 01:31:48,480 | 01:31:50,980 | 283凍結5千萬元 |
| 01:31:50,980 | 01:31:52,980 | 好 我們進入海洋委員會 |
| 01:31:54,120 | 01:31:57,120 | 339、340並通案辦理 |
| 01:32:01,210 | 01:32:01,710 | 340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340、340 |
| 01:32:06,530 | 01:32:07,030 | 是 |
| 01:32:09,070 | 01:32:12,769 | 不好意思,院長,210案有特別保留嗎? |
| 01:32:14,680 | 01:32:16,680 | 剛剛210案我們有說特別保留 |
| 01:32:16,680 | 01:32:19,180 | 我們再補宣告210案保留 |
| 01:32:19,180 | 01:32:20,180 | 好,謝謝 |
| 01:32:30,200 | 01:32:33,700 | 謝謝內政委員會,我們先進入國報交場 |
| 01:32:35,640 | 01:32:38,140 | 好,進入外交國防委員會,謝謝 |
| 01:32:49,740 | 01:32:52,240 | 謝謝內政委員會,我們先換外交國防 |
| 01:32:52,240 | 01:32:53,240 | 謝謝,國防局局長 |
| 01:43:23,250 | 01:43:25,750 | 好,再次謝謝各黨團幹部 |
| 01:43:25,750 | 01:43:28,750 | 也謝謝今天練習的外交國防委員會所有的官員 |
| 01:43:28,750 | 01:43:32,750 | 首先要介紹外交部吳政務次長,謝謝 |
| 01:43:33,140 | 01:43:35,140 | 我們現在進入外交 |
| 01:43:36,510 | 01:43:43,510 | 外交部第二案、第三案、第六案、第十案、第十三案、第十四案、第十五案、第十六案、十七案、十八案 |
| 01:43:43,510 | 01:43:44,510 | 十九案 |
| 01:43:44,510 | 01:43:45,510 | 十七、十九案 |
| 01:43:45,510 | 01:43:47,010 | 更正,十九案 |
| 01:43:47,010 | 01:43:51,010 | 二十案、二十二案、二十三案、二十四案、二十五案、二十六案 |
| 01:43:51,010 | 01:43:53,510 | 四十案,列入通三 |
| 01:43:55,090 | 01:43:57,590 | 好,謝謝外交部練習,我們換國防部 |
| 01:44:03,170 | 01:44:04,670 | 謝謝院長,謝謝 |
| 01:44:09,210 | 01:44:10,710 | 好,謝謝,請大家 |
| 01:44:11,660 | 01:44:14,160 | 保持一場的述境,謝謝 |
| 01:44:32,430 | 01:44:33,930 | 保留被欺有嗎 |
| 01:44:41,610 | 01:44:45,610 | 好,我們更正,馬文君委員提案13、16、23、24、27 |
| 01:44:45,610 | 01:44:46,610 | 保留 |
| 01:44:52,320 | 01:44:55,320 | 好,謝謝,我們介紹國防部練習的徐副部長 |
| 01:44:55,320 | 01:44:56,320 | 好,謝謝,歡迎您 |
| 01:44:56,320 | 01:45:00,320 | 我們國防部第42案、48案,通三 |
| 01:45:00,320 | 01:45:04,320 | 報告院長,這邊有些要特別保留的案子 |
| 01:45:04,320 | 01:45:06,320 | 請林培陽署長發言 |
| 01:45:06,320 | 01:45:13,320 | 好,案號是42案、48案、59案、61案、62案 |
| 01:45:14,720 | 01:45:24,720 | 其中第48案科目不同意自行調整 |
| 01:45:24,720 | 01:45:25,720 | 第幾案? |
| 01:45:25,720 | 01:45:26,720 | 48案 |
| 01:45:26,720 | 01:45:29,720 | 我再重複一次好了,抱歉 |
| 01:45:29,720 | 01:45:34,720 | 馬文君委員這邊特別保留的案號是 |
| 01:45:35,220 | 01:45:48,220 | 其中第48案科目不同意自行調整 |
| 01:45:48,220 | 01:45:49,220 | 好的 |
| 01:45:49,220 | 01:45:50,220 | 好,謝謝 |
| 01:45:55,180 | 01:45:58,180 | 好,我們42案保留,48案保留 |
| 01:45:58,180 | 01:46:00,180 | 科目不同意自行調整 |
| 01:46:00,180 | 01:46:03,180 | 58、59通三,61案、62案保留 |
| 01:46:03,180 | 01:46:05,180 | 63案通三 |
| 01:46:07,570 | 01:46:09,570 | 59案保留 |
| 01:46:09,570 | 01:46:10,570 | 63案通三 |
| 01:46:10,570 | 01:46:11,570 | 64案保留 |
| 01:46:11,570 | 01:46:13,070 | 65案、67案 |
| 01:46:13,070 | 01:46:14,070 | 68案 |
| 01:46:14,070 | 01:46:16,070 | 76案、77案保留 |
| 01:46:16,070 | 01:46:17,070 | 76案保留喔 |
| 01:46:17,070 | 01:46:19,070 | 更正,76案保留 |
| 01:46:19,070 | 01:46:21,070 | 然後77案通三 |
| 01:46:21,070 | 01:46:22,070 | 80案保留 |
| 01:46:22,070 | 01:46:24,070 | 81案通三 |
| 01:46:26,120 | 01:46:28,120 | 80案保留 |
| 01:46:28,120 | 01:46:30,120 | 81案通三 |
| 01:46:30,120 | 01:46:32,120 | 82案凍結10萬元 |
| 01:46:32,120 | 01:46:34,120 | 83案保留 |
| 01:46:34,120 | 01:46:36,120 | 84案通三 |
| 01:46:41,020 | 01:46:47,020 | 我們補充宣告,58案同意併案處理 |
| 01:46:47,020 | 01:46:48,020 | 58案是 |
| 01:46:48,020 | 01:46:50,020 | 102案凍結1000萬元 |
| 01:46:50,020 | 01:46:52,020 | 107通三 |
| 01:46:52,020 | 01:46:58,020 | 109案麻煩請國民黨,請劉許廷委員請發言 |
| 01:46:58,810 | 01:47:01,810 | 謝謝主席,這個案子當初因為這個 |
| 01:47:01,810 | 01:47:04,810 | 採用、採購新的消防車這個案子我們當然都很支持啦 |
| 01:47:04,810 | 01:47:06,810 | 但是因為這個比價的過程中 |
| 01:47:06,810 | 01:47:08,810 | 我們的馬文君委員曾經有提出一些 |
| 01:47:08,810 | 01:47:10,810 | 這刪減的一些疑慮 |
| 01:47:10,810 | 01:47:12,810 | 後來經過溝通之後 |
| 01:47:12,810 | 01:47:14,810 | 這個有達成一定的一個共識 |
| 01:47:14,810 | 01:47:16,810 | 所以後來請黃建斌委員再行提案 |
| 01:47:16,810 | 01:47:18,810 | 用新的案子去取代舊的案子 |
| 01:47:18,810 | 01:47:20,810 | 但在這個過程中我們有一件事情 |
| 01:47:20,810 | 01:47:22,810 | 我們一定要嚴肅的提醒國防部 |
| 01:47:22,810 | 01:47:24,810 | 換言之在採購招標的時候 |
| 01:47:24,810 | 01:47:26,810 | 我們發現招標的文件裡面常常寫到 |
| 01:47:26,810 | 01:47:28,810 | 如果預算有遇到狀況的時候 |
| 01:47:28,810 | 01:47:30,810 | 整個招標完成的案子要廢標處理 |
| 01:47:30,810 | 01:47:32,810 | 這我想政府採購法裡面 |
| 01:47:32,810 | 01:47:34,810 | 並沒有這樣子的一個相關的規定 |
| 01:47:34,810 | 01:47:36,810 | 而這樣子的一個制度設計其實會有問題 |
| 01:47:36,810 | 01:47:38,810 | 第一個導致立法院在審查預算的時候 |
| 01:47:38,810 | 01:47:40,810 | 有時候很為難啦 |
| 01:47:40,810 | 01:47:42,810 | 我們有的時候只是想要合理的遵節開支 |
| 01:47:42,810 | 01:47:44,810 | 但是你動輒以廢標相求 |
| 01:47:44,810 | 01:47:46,810 | 好像一下子就打擊到了相關的一些安排 |
| 01:47:46,810 | 01:47:48,810 | 會突增一些成本 |
| 01:47:48,810 | 01:47:50,810 | 也造成審查上的困難,這其一 |
| 01:47:50,810 | 01:47:52,810 | 其二萬一有新人士,我不是講這個案子 |
| 01:47:52,810 | 01:47:54,810 | 這個案子已經溝通完了 |
| 01:47:54,810 | 01:47:56,810 | 如果利用這樣的一個制度的漏洞 |
| 01:47:56,810 | 01:47:58,810 | 比如說你已經招標了,對手廠商不愉快 |
| 01:47:58,810 | 01:48:00,810 | 就來找立法院來找提案 |
| 01:48:00,810 | 01:48:02,810 | 刪除十塊錢、二十塊錢 |
| 01:48:02,810 | 01:48:04,810 | 然後你整個案子就要廢標重來 |
| 01:48:04,810 | 01:48:06,810 | 那我想這樣的東西對於整個行政的效率等等 |
| 01:48:06,810 | 01:48:08,810 | 都會造成很大的一個衝擊 |
| 01:48:08,810 | 01:48:10,810 | 這也是為什麼這個案子在溝通的時候 |
| 01:48:10,810 | 01:48:12,810 | 花了比較長的一個時間的一個原因 |
| 01:48:12,810 | 01:48:14,810 | 所以藉這樣的一個機會 |
| 01:48:14,810 | 01:48:16,810 | 也提醒一下我們國防部,做一下盤點 |
| 01:48:16,810 | 01:48:18,810 | 這個採購的裡面只要符合政府採購法的相關規定即可 |
| 01:48:18,810 | 01:48:20,810 | 額外增加的一些相關的 |
| 01:48:20,810 | 01:48:22,810 | 一些規定跟要件反而會造成 |
| 01:48:22,810 | 01:48:24,810 | 未來的一些漏洞 |
| 01:48:24,810 | 01:48:26,810 | 希望國防部做一下通盤的再思考 |
| 01:48:26,810 | 01:48:28,810 | 那麼這案最後的結論大家經過溝通之後 |
| 01:48:28,810 | 01:48:30,810 | 我們就支持黃建斌委員的提案照案通過 |
| 01:48:30,810 | 01:48:32,810 | 以上 |
| 01:48:35,650 | 01:48:39,650 | 主席長針對牛許廷為所提的是非常合理的擔憂 |
| 01:48:39,650 | 01:48:41,650 | 請你解釋一下好嗎 |
| 01:48:42,020 | 01:48:44,020 | 好 |
| 01:48:44,070 | 01:48:46,070 | 主席好,我是空軍參謀長 |
| 01:48:46,070 | 01:48:48,070 | 針對剛剛牛委員的這個部分 |
| 01:48:48,070 | 01:48:50,070 | 我們會回去檢討 |
| 01:48:50,070 | 01:48:52,070 | 那這案確實我們在裡面 |
| 01:48:52,070 | 01:48:54,070 | 在招標文件裡面有庶民 |
| 01:48:54,070 | 01:48:56,070 | 如果預算招刪減,我們就以廢標處理 |
| 01:48:56,070 | 01:48:58,070 | 那我們原先的考量是因為 |
| 01:48:58,070 | 01:49:00,070 | 招刪減這裡面的裝備 |
| 01:49:00,070 | 01:49:02,070 | 都非常的重要 |
| 01:49:02,070 | 01:49:04,070 | 所以說我們不清楚說 |
| 01:49:04,070 | 01:49:06,070 | 刪減之後的項量如何去調整 |
| 01:49:06,070 | 01:49:08,070 | 所以說當時我們決定是以廢標來處理 |
| 01:49:08,070 | 01:49:10,070 | 那經過溝通之後 |
| 01:49:10,070 | 01:49:12,070 | 委員同意我們預算招列 |
| 01:49:12,070 | 01:49:14,070 | 我們會再檢討這個部分 |
| 01:49:14,970 | 01:49:16,970 | 那你就提立法院國防委員會 |
| 01:49:16,970 | 01:49:18,970 | 在九月底開議的時候 |
| 01:49:18,970 | 01:49:20,970 | 把它提出來好不好 |
| 01:49:20,970 | 01:49:22,970 | 因為這個會影響到很大 |
| 01:49:22,970 | 01:49:24,970 | 這是因為你們招標公告的內規裡面 |
| 01:49:24,970 | 01:49:26,970 | 這樣怎麼講寫 |
| 01:49:26,970 | 01:49:28,970 | 我是覺得有檢討的必要啦 |
| 01:49:28,970 | 01:49:30,970 | 你們思考一下 |
| 01:49:30,970 | 01:49:32,970 | 我們就預防未來 |
| 01:49:32,970 | 01:49:34,970 | 你就在九月底到十月初開議的時候 |
| 01:49:34,970 | 01:49:36,970 | 你把國防委員會讓立法院國防委員會來討論一下 |
| 01:49:36,970 | 01:49:38,970 | 好謝謝 |
| 01:49:39,640 | 01:49:41,640 | 109之一照黃建斌委員提案通過 |
| 01:49:41,640 | 01:49:43,640 | 我們補宣告 |
| 01:49:43,640 | 01:49:45,640 | 我們補宣告 |
| 01:49:45,640 | 01:49:47,640 | 74案減列500萬 |
| 01:49:47,640 | 01:49:49,640 | 凍結500萬 |
| 01:49:49,360 | 01:49:51,360 | 77案凍結2945萬 |
| 01:49:53,410 | 01:49:55,410 | 80案凍結10萬元 |
| 01:49:55,410 | 01:49:57,410 | 報告院長是不是補充一下 |
| 01:49:57,410 | 01:49:59,410 | 74案它是跟通案第四案 |
| 01:49:59,410 | 01:50:01,410 | 剛剛沒有處理的 |
| 01:50:01,410 | 01:50:03,410 | 它是行政用途的無人機 |
| 01:50:03,410 | 01:50:05,410 | 它的提案上面有敘述行政用途無人機 |
| 01:50:05,410 | 01:50:07,410 | 是不是 |
| 01:50:07,410 | 01:50:09,410 | 不能併不能併 |
| 01:50:09,410 | 01:50:11,410 | 這個不是無法併的 |
| 01:50:11,410 | 01:50:13,410 | 好我們進入 |
| 01:50:13,410 | 01:50:15,410 | 78案 |
| 01:50:15,410 | 01:50:17,410 | 78案減列500萬元 |
| 01:50:17,410 | 01:50:19,410 | 凍結500萬元 |
| 01:50:19,410 | 01:50:21,410 | 80案陳青龍總召所提 |
| 01:50:21,410 | 01:50:23,410 | 凍結10萬元 |
| 01:50:28,800 | 01:50:30,800 | 謝謝 |
| 01:50:30,930 | 01:50:32,930 | 74案保留 |
| 01:50:37,680 | 01:50:39,680 | 114案及並115案來辦理 |
| 01:50:42,030 | 01:50:44,030 | 115案我們凍結10% |
| 01:50:44,030 | 01:50:46,030 | 116案 |
| 01:50:46,030 | 01:50:48,030 | 我們就保留 |
| 01:50:48,030 | 01:50:50,030 | 好謝謝國防部 |
| 01:50:50,030 | 01:50:52,030 | 謝謝 |
| 01:50:52,030 | 01:50:54,030 | 115跟116它其實也都是 |
| 01:50:54,030 | 01:50:56,030 | 經濟部的那個 |
| 01:50:56,030 | 01:50:58,030 | 無人載具的前瞻計畫 |
| 01:50:58,030 | 01:51:00,030 | 442億的一環 |
| 01:51:00,240 | 01:51:02,240 | 115跟116 |
| 01:51:02,240 | 01:51:04,240 | 對我們現在保留 |
| 01:51:04,240 | 01:51:06,240 | 還有兩天 |
| 01:51:06,240 | 01:51:08,240 | 1151 6 |
| 01:51:08,240 | 01:51:10,240 | 然後你 |
| 01:51:13,000 | 01:51:15,000 | 114並115 |
| 01:51:15,000 | 01:51:17,000 | 然後116保留 |
| 01:51:17,000 | 01:51:19,000 | 目前我們處置是這樣子 |
| 01:51:19,000 | 01:51:21,000 | 好不好你剩下時間還有兩天 |
| 01:51:21,000 | 01:51:23,000 | 所以115也是保留就對了 |
| 01:51:23,000 | 01:51:25,000 | 並114 |
| 01:51:25,000 | 01:51:27,000 | 凍結5億 |
| 01:51:27,000 | 01:51:29,000 | 凍結10% |
| 01:51:29,000 | 01:51:31,000 | 114跟115凍結10% |
| 01:51:31,000 | 01:51:33,000 | 那這個未來兩天 |
| 01:51:33,000 | 01:51:35,000 | 你有什麼想法你再跟各黨團 |
| 01:51:35,000 | 01:51:37,000 | 來溝通還有提案委員溝通 |
| 01:51:37,000 | 01:51:39,000 | 這是我們要跟所有 |
| 01:51:39,000 | 01:51:41,000 | 行政部門就是建議一下還有兩天 |
| 01:51:41,000 | 01:51:43,000 | 所以我後面還是可以繼續溝通 |
| 01:51:43,000 | 01:51:45,000 | 是 |
| 01:51:45,680 | 01:51:47,680 | OK |
| 01:51:47,680 | 01:51:49,680 | 115 |
| 01:51:49,680 | 01:51:51,680 | 但是 |
| 01:51:51,680 | 01:51:53,680 | 115跟116 |
| 01:51:53,680 | 01:51:55,680 | 它其實同一個案子 |
| 01:51:55,680 | 01:51:57,680 | 116如果說是保留 |
| 01:51:57,680 | 01:51:59,680 | 115又凍結的話 |
| 01:51:59,680 | 01:52:01,680 | 一個案子就是一個有保留 |
| 01:52:01,680 | 01:52:03,680 | 一個又是凍結了 |
| 01:52:03,680 | 01:52:05,680 | 1151 6都是無人載具前瞻計畫的 |
| 01:52:05,680 | 01:52:07,680 | 都同一個案子 |
| 01:52:07,680 | 01:52:09,680 | 我的意思是1151 6是同一個案子 |
| 01:52:10,680 | 01:52:12,680 | 提案單上面是有表達 |
| 01:52:12,680 | 01:52:14,680 | 我們尊重一下提案委員 |
| 01:52:14,680 | 01:52:16,680 | 沒有在現場 |
| 01:52:16,680 | 01:52:18,680 | 所以我們給你1141 5了 |
| 01:52:18,680 | 01:52:20,680 | 我們就併案凍結10% |
| 01:52:20,680 | 01:52:22,680 | 那116我們先保留 |
| 01:52:22,680 | 01:52:24,680 | 那剩下還有兩天時間你可以溝通 |
| 01:52:24,680 | 01:52:26,680 | 我們大概禮拜五會處理 |
| 01:52:26,680 | 01:52:28,680 | 謝謝 |
| 01:52:28,140 | 01:52:30,140 | 好我們謝謝國防部列席的關注 |
| 01:52:30,140 | 01:52:32,140 | 我們進入僑務委員會 |
| 01:52:34,820 | 01:52:36,820 | 謝謝 |
| 01:52:35,630 | 01:52:37,630 | 還有國軍退出於官兵委員會 |
| 01:52:37,630 | 01:52:39,630 | 我們一起來沒問題謝謝 |
| 01:52:39,870 | 01:52:41,870 | 僑委會 |
| 01:52:42,920 | 01:52:44,920 | 僑委會練習的官員是哪一位 |
| 01:52:44,920 | 01:52:46,920 | 好謝謝 |
| 01:52:47,500 | 01:52:49,500 | 謝謝 |
| 01:52:52,640 | 01:52:54,640 | 好賴副委員長請坐 |
| 01:52:56,930 | 01:52:58,930 | 謝謝 |
| 01:53:00,980 | 01:53:02,980 | 好謝謝賴副委員長 |
| 01:53:02,980 | 01:53:04,980 | 我們僑委會125126 |
| 01:53:04,980 | 01:53:06,980 | 我們就通三 |
| 01:53:06,980 | 01:53:08,980 | 列入通三項目處理 |
| 01:53:09,200 | 01:53:11,200 | 那謝謝賴副委員長 |
| 01:53:11,200 | 01:53:13,200 | 謝謝您啊椅子還沒坐熱 |
| 01:53:13,200 | 01:53:15,200 | 我們進入國軍退出於官兵 |
| 01:53:15,200 | 01:53:17,200 | 輔導委員會 |
| 01:53:17,200 | 01:53:19,200 | 麻煩請就座 |
| 01:53:18,280 | 01:53:20,280 | 好謝謝 |
| 01:53:20,280 | 01:53:22,280 | 我們國軍退出於官兵輔導委員會 |
| 01:53:22,280 | 01:53:24,280 | 陳副主委歡迎您 |
| 01:53:24,280 | 01:53:26,280 | 我們129案 |
| 01:53:26,280 | 01:53:28,280 | 我們列入通三 |
| 01:53:28,280 | 01:53:30,280 | 好謝謝退出於官兵輔導委員會 |
| 01:53:35,390 | 01:53:37,390 | 好我們進入經濟委員會 |
| 01:53:37,390 | 01:53:39,390 | 請列席官員請就座 |
| 01:55:00,300 | 01:55:02,300 | 好我們現在介紹一下 |
| 01:55:02,300 | 01:55:04,300 | 練習的國發會業主委 |
| 01:55:04,300 | 01:55:06,300 | 歡迎您我們進入第一案 |
| 01:55:06,300 | 01:55:08,300 | 國發會的第二案 |
| 01:55:08,300 | 01:55:10,300 | 第四案更正第四案 |
| 01:55:10,300 | 01:55:12,300 | 通三第五案簡列兩千萬 |
| 01:55:12,300 | 01:55:14,300 | 凍結一千萬元第十七案 |
| 01:55:14,300 | 01:55:16,300 | 通三 |
| 01:55:15,860 | 01:55:17,860 | 第十 |
| 01:55:17,860 | 01:55:19,860 | 第五案保留 |
| 01:55:19,860 | 01:55:21,860 | 所以可以看看 |
| 01:55:21,860 | 01:55:23,860 | 看看 |
| 01:55:24,200 | 01:55:26,200 | 陳總召您對第五案保留 |
| 01:55:26,200 | 01:55:28,200 | 有沒有要補充意見 |
| 01:55:28,200 | 01:55:30,200 | 第五案我們就保留 |
| 01:55:32,350 | 01:55:34,350 | 好謝謝國發會謝謝 |
| 01:55:34,350 | 01:55:36,350 | 你們要說對不起請稍待一下 |
| 01:55:36,350 | 01:55:40,350 | 針對經濟委員會的第168案 |
| 01:55:40,350 | 01:55:42,350 | 要求特別保留 |
| 01:55:42,570 | 01:55:44,570 | 第168案 |
| 01:55:44,570 | 01:55:46,570 | 沒關係你先念 |
| 01:55:46,570 | 01:55:48,570 | 好怕我們把它一下子 |
| 01:55:50,940 | 01:55:52,940 | 好對對對 |
| 01:55:55,420 | 01:55:57,420 | 謝謝業主委請回 |
| 01:55:57,420 | 01:55:59,420 | 好謝謝 |
| 01:55:59,420 | 01:56:01,420 | 我們進入經濟部主管 |
| 01:56:05,000 | 01:56:07,000 | 總部長請坐 |
| 01:56:07,000 | 01:56:09,000 | 謝謝經濟部練習的官員 |
| 01:56:10,490 | 01:56:12,490 | 我們經濟部請坐 |
| 01:56:12,490 | 01:56:16,490 | 我們24案25案26案28案3334案 |
| 01:56:16,490 | 01:56:18,490 | 就是通三 |
| 01:56:18,490 | 01:56:20,490 | 38案 |
| 01:56:19,990 | 01:56:21,990 | 已經達成共識 |
| 01:56:21,990 | 01:56:25,990 | 我們簡列兩億一千五百九十二萬七十四元 |
| 01:56:28,690 | 01:56:30,690 | 這個跟林委員已經 |
| 01:56:30,690 | 01:56:32,690 | 我知道達成共識了 |
| 01:56:32,690 | 01:56:34,690 | 我們已經七千元 |
| 01:56:34,690 | 01:56:36,690 | 簡列兩億一千五百九十二萬七千元 |
| 01:56:36,690 | 01:56:38,690 | 我們進入39案 |
| 01:56:38,690 | 01:56:40,690 | 林佩祥委員 |
| 01:56:42,030 | 01:56:44,030 | 林佩祥委員請發言 |
| 01:56:44,270 | 01:56:46,270 | 這個案子目前好像跟我辦公室還沒有把達成共識 |
| 01:56:46,270 | 01:56:48,270 | 是不是可以簡列百分之五 |
| 01:56:50,160 | 01:56:52,160 | 百分之五 |
| 01:56:52,160 | 01:56:54,160 | 百分之五 |
| 01:56:53,960 | 01:56:55,960 | 好 |
| 01:56:55,960 | 01:56:57,960 | 五億 |
| 01:56:57,960 | 01:56:59,960 | 我們就簡列五億 |
| 01:56:59,960 | 01:57:01,960 | 我們第39案達成共識 |
| 01:57:01,960 | 01:57:03,960 | 五億四千五百 |
| 01:57:03,960 | 01:57:05,960 | 五億四千七百 |
| 01:57:05,960 | 01:57:07,960 | 對對對 |
| 01:57:07,960 | 01:57:09,960 | 我們簡列五億元 |
| 01:57:09,960 | 01:57:11,960 | 第46案通三 |
| 01:57:11,960 | 01:57:13,960 | 52案台灣民眾黨凍結 |
| 01:57:13,960 | 01:57:15,960 | 兩千萬元陳總召請發言 |
| 01:57:17,070 | 01:57:19,070 | 我們把53案通三 |
| 01:57:19,070 | 01:57:21,070 | 54案 |
| 01:57:21,900 | 01:57:23,900 | 台灣民眾黨團簡列 |
| 01:57:23,900 | 01:57:25,900 | 無事案保留 |
| 01:57:25,900 | 01:57:27,900 | 64案通三 |
| 01:57:27,900 | 01:57:29,900 | 6667通三 |
| 01:57:29,900 | 01:57:37,900 | 686978284889496898102112124127128130 |
| 01:57:39,030 | 01:57:43,030 | 134136138143151 |
| 01:57:43,030 | 01:57:45,030 | 通三 |
| 01:57:44,750 | 01:57:46,750 | 好 |
| 01:57:46,750 | 01:57:48,750 | 謝謝國務長 |
| 01:57:48,750 | 01:57:50,750 | 我們進入農業部請陳部長就座 |
| 01:57:53,640 | 01:57:55,640 | 等一下等一下 |
| 01:57:58,270 | 01:58:05,270 | 陳部長請座農業部1561591611611162通三168 |
| 01:58:06,180 | 01:58:08,180 | 特別保留 |
| 01:58:12,540 | 01:58:15,540 | 那168案是不是可以改書面 |
| 01:58:16,630 | 01:58:19,630 | 不好意思部長提案委員沒有答應 |
| 01:58:19,630 | 01:58:21,630 | 因為你還有兩天時間 |
| 01:58:21,630 | 01:58:23,630 | 你一個長官還有兩天時間 |
| 01:58:23,630 | 01:58:24,630 | 你就跟提案委員溝通 |
| 01:58:24,630 | 01:58:26,630 | 我剛宣布過好不好 |
| 01:58:26,630 | 01:58:27,630 | 還有跟黨團溝通一下 |
| 01:58:27,630 | 01:58:28,630 | 還有兩天時間謝謝 |
| 01:58:28,630 | 01:58:30,630 | 17623 |
| 01:58:32,120 | 01:58:34,120 | 通三 |
| 01:58:34,120 | 01:58:36,120 | 謝謝陳部長請回 |
| 01:58:47,150 | 01:58:51,150 | 謝謝我們謝謝財政部的莊部長請就座 |
| 01:58:57,080 | 01:59:00,080 | 謝謝我們第五案簡略100萬元 |
| 01:59:01,280 | 01:59:02,280 | 謝謝 |
| 01:59:07,320 | 01:59:10,320 | 那個陳青龍總召簡略100萬元要不要補充意見 |
| 01:59:10,320 | 01:59:12,320 | 本案保留 |
| 01:59:12,320 | 01:59:16,320 | 保留我們8案9案12案13案14案通三 |
| 01:59:17,170 | 01:59:22,170 | 我們19案民眾黨團簡略6億7500要不要補充意見 |
| 01:59:22,960 | 01:59:24,960 | 本案保留 |
| 01:59:26,880 | 01:59:28,880 | 通三 |
| 01:59:28,880 | 01:59:31,880 | 陳總召簡略500萬元要不要發言 |
| 01:59:32,880 | 01:59:34,880 | 我們是不是這樣子 |
| 01:59:34,880 | 01:59:36,880 | 我們遵照簡略500萬科目自行調整 |
| 01:59:36,880 | 01:59:38,880 | 好 |
| 01:59:38,880 | 01:59:40,880 | 那就是簡略500萬科目自行調整 |
| 01:59:40,880 | 01:59:42,880 | 35案通三 |
| 01:59:42,880 | 01:59:44,880 | 36案我們就 |
| 01:59:44,880 | 01:59:46,880 | 36案我們是不是遵照辦理 |
| 01:59:46,880 | 01:59:48,880 | 然後就這樣子 |
| 01:59:48,880 | 01:59:50,880 | 提書面報告 |
| 01:59:50,880 | 01:59:52,880 | 我們就凍結500萬元提書面報告 |
| 01:59:52,880 | 01:59:54,880 | 好 |
| 01:59:55,460 | 01:59:59,460 | 那19案是不是可以讓我們調整一下 |
| 01:59:59,460 | 02:00:01,460 | 我們回到19案 |
| 02:00:01,460 | 02:00:03,460 | 19案我們堅持保留 |
| 02:00:03,460 | 02:00:05,460 | 我們民眾黨團所提的這個保留簡略 |
| 02:00:05,460 | 02:00:07,460 | 因為確實沒有辦法運作 |
| 02:00:09,120 | 02:00:11,120 | 再溝通喔 |
| 02:00:11,920 | 02:00:13,920 | 喔 阿尼亞 哼 |
| 02:00:14,350 | 02:00:16,350 | 你們還有兩天黃金時刻請保持溝通 |
| 02:00:16,350 | 02:00:18,350 | 跟黨團還有個提案委員好不好 |
| 02:00:18,350 | 02:00:20,350 | 好 謝謝 |
| 02:00:20,350 | 02:00:22,350 | 我們36案凍結500萬改書面 |
| 02:00:22,350 | 02:00:24,350 | 好 我們40案41案 |
| 02:00:24,350 | 02:00:26,350 | 42案51案通三 |
| 02:00:28,020 | 02:00:30,020 | 好 謝謝財政部 |
| 02:00:30,020 | 02:00:32,020 | 謝謝莊部長 |
| 02:00:31,830 | 02:00:33,830 | 我們進入金融監督管理委員會 |
| 02:00:44,620 | 02:00:46,620 | 好 彭主委請坐 |
| 02:00:46,620 | 02:00:51,620 | 我們72737477787898081通三 |
| 02:00:51,620 | 02:00:54,620 | 85案民眾黨團凍結300萬元 |
| 02:00:54,620 | 02:00:56,620 | 86案同上同意案 |
| 02:00:56,620 | 02:00:58,620 | 8586 台灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:00:58,620 | 02:01:00,620 | 金管會是不是同意改書面報告 |
| 02:01:00,620 | 02:01:02,620 | 凍結300萬元 同意 |
| 02:01:02,620 | 02:01:04,620 | 好 陳總召請表達意見 |
| 02:01:05,040 | 02:01:07,040 | 好 既然同意我們也OK |
| 02:01:07,040 | 02:01:10,040 | 我們8586就凍結300萬元改書面報告 |
| 02:01:10,620 | 02:01:12,620 | OK |
| 02:01:11,650 | 02:01:13,650 | 90案 剪裂100萬元 |
| 02:01:15,100 | 02:01:17,100 | 91案凍結200萬元 |
| 02:01:17,100 | 02:01:19,100 | 92案凍結100萬元 |
| 02:01:19,100 | 02:01:21,100 | 請問一下金管會 |
| 02:01:21,930 | 02:01:23,930 | 彭主委 93案 剪裂100萬 同意嗎 |
| 02:01:23,930 | 02:01:25,930 | 同意 好 我們就剪裂100萬 |
| 02:01:25,930 | 02:01:27,930 | 91 92凍結200萬跟100萬 |
| 02:01:27,930 | 02:01:29,930 | 我們是不是改書面報告 |
| 02:01:29,930 | 02:01:31,930 | 陳總召請表達意見 |
| 02:01:31,930 | 02:01:33,930 | 那這一個部分 919號 |
| 02:01:33,930 | 02:01:35,930 | 我們就並按凍結200萬 |
| 02:01:37,120 | 02:01:39,120 | 並按凍結200萬改書面報告 好嗎 |
| 02:01:39,120 | 02:01:41,120 | 謝謝 好 同意 |
| 02:01:42,230 | 02:01:44,230 | 並按 就9192就是各凍結100的嘛 |
| 02:01:45,860 | 02:01:47,860 | 凍結 |
| 02:01:49,500 | 02:01:51,500 | 那是90 凍結是90 |
| 02:01:51,500 | 02:01:53,500 | 凍結他已經同意 金管會同意 |
| 02:01:53,500 | 02:01:55,500 | 現在9192 |
| 02:01:58,740 | 02:02:00,740 | 92案並91案 |
| 02:02:00,740 | 02:02:04,740 | 我們92案並91案凍結200萬改書面報告 |
| 02:02:04,740 | 02:02:06,740 | 謝謝彭主委 謝謝主席 謝謝各位委員 |
| 02:02:08,150 | 02:02:10,150 | 我們進入教育委員會 |
| 02:02:27,220 | 02:02:29,220 | 我們謝謝中央研究院彭副院長 |
| 02:02:29,220 | 02:02:31,220 | 謝謝歡迎您請坐 |
| 02:02:32,740 | 02:02:38,740 | 我們中央研究院第一案第六案第九案第十一案第十一案第十五案 |
| 02:02:38,740 | 02:02:40,740 | 報告院長 這邊有要特別保留的案子 |
| 02:02:40,740 | 02:02:44,740 | 對 有關教育部是第30案 |
| 02:02:44,740 | 02:02:52,740 | 那有關文化部是143 180 198跟207 |
| 02:02:53,660 | 02:02:55,660 | 好 謝謝 我們把它登記起來 |
| 02:02:55,660 | 02:02:57,660 | 那我們中央研究院第一案 |
| 02:02:57,660 | 02:03:00,660 | 剛剛所念的這幾項這十萬共七案 |
| 02:03:00,660 | 02:03:02,660 | 我們就通三 |
| 02:03:03,750 | 02:03:06,750 | 不好意思彭副院長椅子都還沒坐熱 |
| 02:03:06,750 | 02:03:08,750 | 不好意思 |
| 02:03:10,150 | 02:03:13,150 | 我們進入教育部主管的 |
| 02:03:16,780 | 02:03:18,780 | 我們進入教育部主管的 |
| 02:03:19,230 | 02:03:23,230 | 好 謝謝教育部練習的是朱次長 |
| 02:03:23,230 | 02:03:25,230 | 歡迎您請坐 |
| 02:03:27,380 | 02:03:30,380 | 二十六案通三 三十案保留 |
| 02:03:30,380 | 02:03:32,380 | 三十一案通三 |
| 02:03:33,320 | 02:03:36,320 | 好 謝謝 謝謝教育部朱次長 謝謝您 |
| 02:03:37,980 | 02:03:39,980 | 我們進入運動部 |
| 02:03:45,000 | 02:03:47,000 | 謝謝黃次長請坐 |
| 02:03:48,780 | 02:03:54,780 | 我們運動部118 120 135 136通三 |
| 02:03:54,780 | 02:03:56,780 | 好 謝謝您 |
| 02:03:58,410 | 02:04:00,410 | 我們進入文化部 |
| 02:04:00,350 | 02:04:02,350 | 一 二 三 |
| 02:04:01,420 | 02:04:03,420 | 第43法案 |
| 02:04:06,500 | 02:04:08,500 | 李部長請坐 |
| 02:04:22,310 | 02:04:24,310 | 一八六 |
| 02:04:24,310 | 02:04:26,310 | 跟正 |
| 02:04:26,310 | 02:04:28,310 | 180保留 |
| 02:04:28,310 | 02:04:30,310 | 184 185 通三 |
| 02:04:30,310 | 02:04:32,310 | 195 196 198 |
| 02:04:35,100 | 02:04:37,100 | 195保留 |
| 02:04:37,100 | 02:04:39,100 | 195保留 |
| 02:04:39,100 | 02:04:41,100 | 196羅志強委員動學20% |
| 02:04:41,100 | 02:04:43,100 | 國民黨委員表達意見 |
| 02:04:43,550 | 02:04:45,550 | 跟198案並案好了 |
| 02:04:45,550 | 02:04:49,550 | 就是196 198都保留嗎 |
| 02:04:51,380 | 02:04:53,380 | 196並入198 |
| 02:04:53,380 | 02:04:55,380 | 196並入198 |
| 02:04:55,380 | 02:04:57,380 | 保留 |
| 02:04:57,380 | 02:04:59,380 | 還是特別保留 |
| 02:04:59,380 | 02:05:01,380 | 保留 |
| 02:05:01,380 | 02:05:03,380 | 我們林北洋署長發明一個名詞叫特別保留 |
| 02:05:03,380 | 02:05:05,380 | 問一下是不是特別保留 |
| 02:05:05,730 | 02:05:07,730 | 請 |
| 02:05:07,730 | 02:05:09,730 | 謝謝院長還有那個 |
| 02:05:09,730 | 02:05:11,730 | 台灣民眾黨跟國民黨的協商代表 |
| 02:05:11,730 | 02:05:13,730 | 195 196 198 |
| 02:05:13,730 | 02:05:15,730 | 文策院這個 |
| 02:05:16,830 | 02:05:18,830 | 可不可以再特別考量一下 |
| 02:05:18,830 | 02:05:20,830 | 因為這個就像我剛 |
| 02:05:20,830 | 02:05:22,830 | 我們在協商的時候跟院長跟協商代表 |
| 02:05:22,830 | 02:05:24,830 | 說報告就是說那個執行都已經 |
| 02:05:24,830 | 02:05:26,830 | 超過75%了 |
| 02:05:26,830 | 02:05:28,830 | 而且這個都涉及到整個國際上的一個 |
| 02:05:28,830 | 02:05:30,830 | 合約 |
| 02:05:30,830 | 02:05:32,830 | 我們整個預算規模 |
| 02:05:32,830 | 02:05:34,830 | 如果說你去跟別的國家做比較的話 |
| 02:05:34,830 | 02:05:36,830 | 人家一個編都編幾百個 |
| 02:05:36,830 | 02:05:38,830 | 我們編七個多 |
| 02:05:38,830 | 02:05:40,830 | 是不是這一筆 |
| 02:05:40,830 | 02:05:42,830 | 涉及到文化的部分 |
| 02:05:42,830 | 02:05:44,830 | 可以盡量手下留情 |
| 02:05:44,830 | 02:05:46,830 | 先量好 |
| 02:05:46,210 | 02:05:48,210 | 他75% |
| 02:05:48,210 | 02:05:50,210 | 減還是減 |
| 02:05:50,210 | 02:05:52,210 | 不要減那麼多 |
| 02:05:52,210 | 02:05:54,210 | 因為真的全面涉及到 |
| 02:05:54,210 | 02:05:56,210 | 你說你在委員會裡面 |
| 02:05:56,210 | 02:05:58,210 | 大家有關 |
| 02:05:58,210 | 02:06:00,210 | 大家提案 |
| 02:06:00,210 | 02:06:02,210 | 然後又涉及到說你整個預算他執行的部分 |
| 02:06:02,210 | 02:06:04,210 | 剩下這麼短的時間 |
| 02:06:04,210 | 02:06:06,210 | 然後前面的執行都已經快80%了 |
| 02:06:06,210 | 02:06:08,210 | 你現在把他打成這樣 |
| 02:06:08,210 | 02:06:10,210 | 這個很多的會產生一些契約上的糾紛 |
| 02:06:10,210 | 02:06:12,210 | 請問看可以 |
| 02:06:12,210 | 02:06:14,210 | 好謝謝莊惠雄幹事長 |
| 02:06:14,210 | 02:06:16,210 | 那既然點名到陳總召 |
| 02:06:16,210 | 02:06:18,210 | 您要不要講兩句話 |
| 02:06:19,490 | 02:06:21,490 | 來這個部分 |
| 02:06:21,490 | 02:06:23,490 | 我們當然支持文化建設 |
| 02:06:23,490 | 02:06:25,490 | 但是文策院 |
| 02:06:25,490 | 02:06:27,490 | 這個部分 |
| 02:06:27,490 | 02:06:29,490 | 包括我們自己部長都承認 |
| 02:06:29,490 | 02:06:31,490 | 投資的部分 |
| 02:06:31,490 | 02:06:33,490 | 整個成效 |
| 02:06:33,490 | 02:06:35,490 | 也都存在疑慮 |
| 02:06:35,490 | 02:06:37,490 | 當然以至於韓國 |
| 02:06:37,490 | 02:06:39,490 | 他們的預算多少 |
| 02:06:39,490 | 02:06:41,490 | 但是我們要看到人家的成績 |
| 02:06:41,490 | 02:06:43,490 | 我們也期待 |
| 02:06:43,490 | 02:06:45,490 | 文化部能夠做的 |
| 02:06:45,390 | 02:06:47,390 | 越有績效 |
| 02:06:47,390 | 02:06:49,390 | 我們的預算全力支持 |
| 02:06:49,390 | 02:06:51,390 | 我在這邊簡略兩億 |
| 02:06:51,390 | 02:06:53,390 | 東提議 |
| 02:06:53,150 | 02:06:55,150 | 啊 |
| 02:06:54,760 | 02:06:56,760 | 還有時間吧 |
| 02:06:56,760 | 02:06:58,760 | 我可以保留OK |
| 02:06:58,760 | 02:07:00,760 | 文化部隊溝通 |
| 02:07:00,760 | 02:07:02,760 | 那本案我們在這裡保留 |
| 02:07:02,760 | 02:07:04,760 | 部長講一下 |
| 02:07:04,760 | 02:07:06,760 | 部長我跟您報告一下 |
| 02:07:06,760 | 02:07:08,760 | 我們所有的部會就是有一些保留的部分 |
| 02:07:08,760 | 02:07:10,760 | 那未來還有兩天黃金時間 |
| 02:07:10,760 | 02:07:12,760 | 您可以跟提案的委員 |
| 02:07:12,760 | 02:07:14,760 | 以及各黨團來加強溝通 |
| 02:07:14,760 | 02:07:16,760 | 那我覺得這委員也很願意 |
| 02:07:16,760 | 02:07:18,760 | 查納雅言 |
| 02:07:18,760 | 02:07:20,760 | 就是說剛剛也溝通 |
| 02:07:20,760 | 02:07:22,760 | 還是很有效果的 |
| 02:07:22,760 | 02:07:24,760 | 利用這黃金時刻還有兩天的時間 |
| 02:07:24,760 | 02:07:26,760 | 上次你講的重點我們大概都已經聽到了 |
| 02:07:26,760 | 02:07:28,760 | 您今天有沒有 |
| 02:07:28,760 | 02:07:30,760 | 跟上次不一樣還要再補充的 |
| 02:07:31,660 | 02:07:33,660 | 我想文策院本身是台灣 |
| 02:07:33,660 | 02:07:35,660 | 真的很難得有這樣一個 |
| 02:07:35,660 | 02:07:37,660 | 能夠提供這個 |
| 02:07:37,660 | 02:07:39,660 | 文化產業的一個投資 |
| 02:07:39,660 | 02:07:41,660 | 還有國際鏈結 |
| 02:07:41,660 | 02:07:43,660 | 它是個非常重要的單位 |
| 02:07:43,660 | 02:07:45,660 | 我希望大家不要 |
| 02:07:45,660 | 02:07:47,660 | 不要動跟商太多 |
| 02:07:47,660 | 02:07:49,660 | 因為他下半年的很多活動 |
| 02:07:49,660 | 02:07:51,660 | 已經簽約了以上 |
| 02:07:52,110 | 02:07:54,110 | 好謝謝林部長 |
| 02:07:54,110 | 02:07:56,110 | 那您就麻煩善用未來兩天黃金時刻好嗎 |
| 02:07:56,110 | 02:07:58,110 | 好 |
| 02:07:57,730 | 02:07:59,730 | 我加快速度 |
| 02:07:59,730 | 02:08:01,730 | 是針對Taiwan Plus |
| 02:08:01,730 | 02:08:03,730 | 就是180199 200 |
| 02:08:03,730 | 02:08:05,730 | 201 202想再幫他們講一下話 |
| 02:08:05,730 | 02:08:07,730 | 我知道大家對Taiwan Plus |
| 02:08:07,730 | 02:08:09,730 | 不太滿意 |
| 02:08:09,730 | 02:08:11,730 | 其實我也一直不滿意 |
| 02:08:11,730 | 02:08:13,730 | 但是這幾年來它其實有一些成果 |
| 02:08:13,730 | 02:08:15,730 | 舉例來講它在國際面 |
| 02:08:15,730 | 02:08:17,730 | 已經跟美國的CNN |
| 02:08:17,730 | 02:08:19,730 | 建立新聞合作 |
| 02:08:19,730 | 02:08:21,730 | 那歐洲的新聞交換機制 |
| 02:08:21,730 | 02:08:23,730 | Enex |
| 02:08:23,730 | 02:08:25,730 | 也有一個合作 |
| 02:08:25,730 | 02:08:27,730 | 未來的改革其實有在進行 |
| 02:08:27,730 | 02:08:29,730 | 那包含它最近海外的 |
| 02:08:29,730 | 02:08:31,730 | 拓展北美的飯店 |
| 02:08:31,730 | 02:08:33,730 | 頻道都有落地 |
| 02:08:33,730 | 02:08:35,730 | 那2026年會針對 |
| 02:08:35,730 | 02:08:37,730 | 歐洲拓展 |
| 02:08:37,730 | 02:08:39,730 | 那有些委員關心的它目前 |
| 02:08:39,730 | 02:08:41,730 | 延攬比較高的比例的外籍人才等 |
| 02:08:41,730 | 02:08:43,730 | 那這部分它其實 |
| 02:08:43,730 | 02:08:45,730 | 也都開始延攬越來越多的 |
| 02:08:45,730 | 02:08:47,730 | 本國籍的資深傳播決策 |
| 02:08:47,730 | 02:08:49,730 | 所以是建議 |
| 02:08:49,730 | 02:08:51,730 | 就是用 |
| 02:08:51,730 | 02:08:53,730 | 簡略就好而且它其實 |
| 02:08:53,730 | 02:08:55,730 | 其實今年度的經費也已經 |
| 02:08:55,730 | 02:08:57,730 | 執行的比例相當的高 |
| 02:08:57,730 | 02:08:59,730 | 那是不是能夠針對 |
| 02:08:59,730 | 02:09:01,730 | Taiwan Plus它執行 |
| 02:09:01,730 | 02:09:03,730 | 支用已經達到75% |
| 02:09:03,730 | 02:09:05,730 | 所以如果像 |
| 02:09:05,730 | 02:09:07,730 | 有些人的全數 |
| 02:09:07,730 | 02:09:09,730 | 簡略的話其實也會造成很大的問題 |
| 02:09:09,730 | 02:09:11,730 | 那希望能夠用 |
| 02:09:11,730 | 02:09:13,730 | 簡略一億到兩億然後 |
| 02:09:13,730 | 02:09:15,730 | 能夠催促它的改革 |
| 02:09:15,730 | 02:09:17,730 | 那真的希望大家再考量 |
| 02:09:17,730 | 02:09:19,730 | 它經費已經執行了75% |
| 02:09:19,730 | 02:09:21,730 | 以上 謝謝范英維的發言 |
| 02:09:21,730 | 02:09:23,730 | 那我還是要回到195196198 |
| 02:09:23,730 | 02:09:25,730 | 我們剛才在這裡195案 |
| 02:09:25,730 | 02:09:27,730 | 就是保留 |
| 02:09:27,730 | 02:09:29,730 | 那198並196保留 |
| 02:09:29,730 | 02:09:31,730 | 那現在回到范英維 |
| 02:09:31,730 | 02:09:33,730 | 196並198保留 |
| 02:09:33,730 | 02:09:35,730 | 那剛剛還是回到 |
| 02:09:35,730 | 02:09:37,730 | 范英維所提的 |
| 02:09:37,730 | 02:09:39,730 | 就是180案並199200201202 |
| 02:09:39,730 | 02:09:41,730 | 范英維提的意思就是說 |
| 02:09:41,730 | 02:09:43,730 | 提案的國民黨團 |
| 02:09:43,730 | 02:09:45,730 | 台灣民眾黨團是不是考量 |
| 02:09:45,730 | 02:09:47,730 | 執行的 |
| 02:09:47,730 | 02:09:49,730 | 12分之8的時間 |
| 02:09:49,730 | 02:09:51,730 | 那還有12分之4的時間 |
| 02:09:51,730 | 02:09:53,730 | 是不是考量能不能簡略 |
| 02:09:53,730 | 02:09:55,730 | 一億元到兩億元的方式 |
| 02:09:55,730 | 02:09:57,730 | 如果各位 |
| 02:09:57,730 | 02:09:59,730 | 能簡略就簡略不能簡略 |
| 02:09:59,730 | 02:10:01,730 | 那就是保留請兩個黨團表達意見 |
| 02:10:03,450 | 02:10:05,450 | 我們請翁曉琳委員發言 |
| 02:10:05,450 | 02:10:07,450 | 請翁曉琳委員發言 |
| 02:10:07,450 | 02:10:09,450 | 長話短說180的案子 |
| 02:10:09,450 | 02:10:11,450 | 我們簡略兩億一千萬 |
| 02:10:11,450 | 02:10:13,450 | 主要是針對Taiwan Plus的這個部分 |
| 02:10:13,450 | 02:10:15,450 | 所以我們在這邊還是堅持保留 |
| 02:10:15,450 | 02:10:17,450 | 好180那199200201202 |
| 02:10:17,450 | 02:10:19,450 | 並180案 |
| 02:10:19,450 | 02:10:21,450 | 所以就總共簡略兩億 |
| 02:10:21,450 | 02:10:23,450 | 沒有沒有沒有 |
| 02:10:23,450 | 02:10:25,450 | 我們台灣民眾黨的案還是保留 |
| 02:10:25,450 | 02:10:27,450 | 199案也是保留 |
| 02:10:27,450 | 02:10:29,450 | OK沒問題 |
| 02:10:29,450 | 02:10:31,450 | 翁曉琳委員你發言完畢了 |
| 02:10:31,450 | 02:10:33,450 | 還是保留嗎 |
| 02:10:33,450 | 02:10:35,450 | 兩百案 |
| 02:10:35,450 | 02:10:37,450 | 不好意思剛主席 |
| 02:10:37,450 | 02:10:39,450 | 是講180案還是講199 |
| 02:10:39,450 | 02:10:41,450 | 19920020120案 |
| 02:10:41,450 | 02:10:43,450 | 並180案保留 |
| 02:10:44,900 | 02:10:46,900 | 並180案保留 |
| 02:10:46,900 | 02:10:48,900 | 就等於全部都保留了 |
| 02:10:50,990 | 02:10:52,990 | 就是說范委員所提的 |
| 02:10:52,990 | 02:10:54,990 | 如果你們不能接受 |
| 02:10:54,990 | 02:10:56,990 | 那我們就並180案 |
| 02:10:58,400 | 02:11:00,400 | 我們台灣民眾黨的200 |
| 02:11:00,400 | 02:11:02,400 | 還是單獨保留 |
| 02:11:02,400 | 02:11:04,400 | 單獨保留 |
| 02:11:04,400 | 02:11:06,400 | 個別保留 |
| 02:11:06,400 | 02:11:08,400 | 沒問題 |
| 02:11:08,400 | 02:11:10,400 | 部長那我們先這樣 |
| 02:11:10,400 | 02:11:12,400 | 我們現在205 |
| 02:11:12,400 | 02:11:14,400 | 並206 209 |
| 02:11:14,400 | 02:11:16,400 | 現在 |
| 02:11:18,970 | 02:11:20,970 | 部長 臺灣205簡略1000萬元 |
| 02:11:20,970 | 02:11:22,970 | 跟院長報告 |
| 02:11:22,970 | 02:11:24,970 | 目前是205 |
| 02:11:24,970 | 02:11:26,970 | 206 |
| 02:11:26,970 | 02:11:28,970 | 訂入207 |
| 02:11:28,970 | 02:11:30,970 | 並案保留 |
| 02:11:30,270 | 02:11:32,270 | 205 206 並入207 |
| 02:11:32,270 | 02:11:34,270 | 好 205 206 207 |
| 02:11:34,270 | 02:11:36,270 | 三案保留 |
| 02:11:36,270 | 02:11:38,270 | 那208 209 |
| 02:11:38,270 | 02:11:40,270 | 不是 |
| 02:11:40,270 | 02:11:42,270 | 所以並案全部並205保留 |
| 02:11:42,270 | 02:11:44,270 | 不是不是 |
| 02:11:47,070 | 02:11:49,070 | 就205 206就消失了 |
| 02:11:49,070 | 02:11:51,070 | 我們並207案了 |
| 02:11:51,590 | 02:11:53,590 | 那208 209 |
| 02:11:53,590 | 02:11:55,590 | 臺灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:11:55,590 | 02:11:57,590 | 208是凍結1億元 |
| 02:11:57,590 | 02:11:59,590 | 那209 |
| 02:11:59,590 | 02:12:01,590 | 是凍結2000萬元 |
| 02:12:01,590 | 02:12:03,590 | 那文化部理部長在這邊 |
| 02:12:03,590 | 02:12:05,590 | 那陳董事長如果說 |
| 02:12:06,370 | 02:12:08,370 | 凍結1億改書面報告你能接受嗎 |
| 02:12:09,560 | 02:12:11,560 | 陳董事長 |
| 02:12:13,240 | 02:12:15,240 | 我們208案本來就 |
| 02:12:15,240 | 02:12:17,240 | 蔡純佐委員的 |
| 02:12:17,240 | 02:12:19,240 | 提案嘛 她本身就要求保留 |
| 02:12:19,240 | 02:12:21,240 | 凍結1億元 |
| 02:12:21,240 | 02:12:23,240 | 對 她本身就要求保留 |
| 02:12:23,240 | 02:12:25,240 | 交你的意思 我要書面就好 |
| 02:12:25,240 | 02:12:27,240 | 改書面 |
| 02:12:28,210 | 02:12:30,210 | 可以啦 部長也可以表達一下 |
| 02:12:30,770 | 02:12:32,770 | 就208 209 |
| 02:12:32,770 | 02:12:34,770 | 並案 |
| 02:12:33,890 | 02:12:35,890 | 改書面 |
| 02:12:35,890 | 02:12:37,890 | 凍結1億 |
| 02:12:37,890 | 02:12:39,890 | 好 208 209 |
| 02:12:39,890 | 02:12:41,890 | 就並在一起凍結1億 |
| 02:12:41,890 | 02:12:43,890 | 凍結1億 但是這個部分 |
| 02:12:43,890 | 02:12:45,890 | 我們要求專案報告 |
| 02:12:45,890 | 02:12:47,890 | 要改書面啦 |
| 02:12:47,890 | 02:12:49,890 | 專案報告這樣就OK啦 |
| 02:12:49,890 | 02:12:51,890 | OK 好 |
| 02:12:51,890 | 02:12:53,890 | 208 209 |
| 02:12:53,890 | 02:12:55,890 | 凍結1億 |
| 02:12:55,890 | 02:12:57,890 | 專案報告 |
| 02:12:57,890 | 02:12:59,890 | OK 好 謝謝 |
| 02:12:59,890 | 02:13:01,890 | 208 209我們達成共識 |
| 02:13:01,890 | 02:13:03,890 | 208 209 改書面報告 |
| 02:13:03,890 | 02:13:05,890 | 210 台灣民主黨凍結3600萬元 |
| 02:13:05,890 | 02:13:07,890 | 民主黨請表達意見 |
| 02:13:10,190 | 02:13:12,190 | 陳純佐請表達意見 |
| 02:13:15,300 | 02:13:17,300 | 阿佑 |
| 02:13:16,670 | 02:13:18,670 | 凍結3600萬 |
| 02:13:18,670 | 02:13:20,670 | 凍結3600萬 |
| 02:13:20,670 | 02:13:22,670 | 這個部分 |
| 02:13:22,240 | 02:13:24,240 | 你要不要達成共識 |
| 02:13:24,240 | 02:13:26,240 | 改書面報告是不是就大概達成共識了 |
| 02:13:27,760 | 02:13:29,760 | 陳純佐 |
| 02:13:29,760 | 02:13:31,760 | 如果書面報告 |
| 02:13:31,760 | 02:13:33,760 | 還是專案報告 |
| 02:13:33,730 | 02:13:35,730 | 還是專案報告 |
| 02:13:38,390 | 02:13:40,390 | 好 我們請林配強書記長請發言 |
| 02:13:40,390 | 02:13:42,390 | 不好意思 主席 |
| 02:13:42,390 | 02:13:44,390 | 是我剛剛對於之前的議案 |
| 02:13:44,390 | 02:13:46,390 | 201 202 |
| 02:13:47,400 | 02:13:49,400 | 併入199案 |
| 02:13:52,410 | 02:13:54,410 | 201 202 |
| 02:13:54,980 | 02:13:56,980 | 併案 |
| 02:13:56,980 | 02:13:58,980 | 併案之199案 |
| 02:13:59,260 | 02:14:01,260 | 我們201 202就消失掉 |
| 02:14:01,260 | 02:14:03,260 | 併199案 |
| 02:14:04,090 | 02:14:06,090 | 那陳純佐 |
| 02:14:05,850 | 02:14:07,850 | 那你這個 |
| 02:14:08,730 | 02:14:10,730 | 改書面就好了啦 清理好了 |
| 02:14:11,310 | 02:14:13,310 | 你沒那麼多時間 |
| 02:14:13,310 | 02:14:15,310 | 你沒那麼多白 |
| 02:14:15,310 | 02:14:17,310 | 我們這樣協商我們也無視委員會 |
| 02:14:17,310 | 02:14:19,310 | 你知不知道 |
| 02:14:19,770 | 02:14:21,770 | 我們可以 |
| 02:14:21,120 | 02:14:23,120 | 我們不同意 |
| 02:14:23,120 | 02:14:25,120 | 但是我們叫原來的就是專案報告 |
| 02:14:25,120 | 02:14:27,120 | 我們就OK |
| 02:14:26,770 | 02:14:28,770 | 那不然我們就保留 |
| 02:14:29,100 | 02:14:31,100 | 我要不同意嗎 |
| 02:14:31,830 | 02:14:33,830 | 20幾 |
| 02:14:33,840 | 02:14:35,840 | 好 360專案報告 |
| 02:14:35,840 | 02:14:37,840 | 340專案報告 |
| 02:14:39,330 | 02:14:41,330 | 我們就OK |
| 02:14:41,330 | 02:14:43,330 | 你專案報告一套同不同意的問題 |
| 02:14:44,860 | 02:14:46,860 | 好啦 好啦 |
| 02:14:49,060 | 02:14:51,060 | A7 |
| 02:14:51,060 | 02:14:53,060 | 221 |
| 02:14:53,060 | 02:14:55,060 | 通3 |
| 02:14:56,230 | 02:14:58,230 | 謝謝李部長 |
| 02:14:58,950 | 02:15:00,950 | 我們進入國會 |
| 02:15:03,050 | 02:15:05,050 | 國會那邊哪一位 |
| 02:15:09,600 | 02:15:11,600 | 林副主任委員請坐 |
| 02:15:15,320 | 02:15:17,320 | 報告主席我是蘇副主委 |
| 02:15:17,320 | 02:15:19,320 | 因為我們林副主委剛剛 |
| 02:15:19,000 | 02:15:21,000 | OK 蘇副主委謝謝 |
| 02:15:21,000 | 02:15:23,000 | 一樣謝謝蘇副主委謝謝你 |
| 02:15:23,000 | 02:15:25,000 | 我們進入265案 |
| 02:15:25,000 | 02:15:27,000 | 我們就通3 |
| 02:15:27,000 | 02:15:29,000 | 謝謝蘇副主委謝謝你 |
| 02:15:29,000 | 02:15:31,000 | 謝謝主席 |
| 02:15:34,140 | 02:15:36,140 | 謝謝 |
| 02:15:35,230 | 02:15:39,230 | 我們進入交通委員會 |
| 02:16:07,040 | 02:16:09,040 | 謝謝國家通信傳播委員會 |
| 02:16:09,040 | 02:16:11,040 | 溫主任秘書辛苦 |
| 02:16:11,040 | 02:16:13,040 | 院長好 |
| 02:16:14,450 | 02:16:16,450 | 院長 |
| 02:16:16,760 | 02:16:18,760 | 我們在第二輪 |
| 02:16:18,760 | 02:16:20,760 | 上一次的協商 |
| 02:16:20,760 | 02:16:22,760 | 我們對國家通信委員會 |
| 02:16:22,760 | 02:16:24,760 | 我們一次就 |
| 02:16:24,760 | 02:16:26,760 | 我們班長團就表達了 |
| 02:16:26,760 | 02:16:28,760 | 那 |
| 02:16:28,760 | 02:16:30,760 | 沒有主任委員沒有 |
| 02:16:30,760 | 02:16:32,760 | 副主任委員也沒有委員 |
| 02:16:33,969 | 02:16:35,969 | 那整個 |
| 02:16:35,969 | 02:16:37,969 | 能夠來代表做 |
| 02:16:37,969 | 02:16:39,969 | 預算協商的 |
| 02:16:41,209 | 02:16:43,209 | 那些 |
| 02:16:42,920 | 02:16:44,920 | 協商院長是 |
| 02:16:44,920 | 02:16:46,920 | 才是主命 |
| 02:16:48,690 | 02:16:50,690 | 議規應該沒有這個 |
| 02:16:51,389 | 02:16:53,389 | 這個可以來做 |
| 02:16:54,170 | 02:16:56,170 | 以上 |
| 02:16:55,520 | 02:16:57,520 | 隨時延長你 |
| 02:16:58,219 | 02:17:00,219 | 謝謝 |
| 02:17:05,190 | 02:17:07,190 | 沒有主任 |
| 02:17:06,930 | 02:17:08,930 | 那個NCC的預算就我們在 |
| 02:17:08,930 | 02:17:10,930 | 表決的時候 |
| 02:17:10,930 | 02:17:12,930 | 直接處理 |
| 02:17:12,930 | 02:17:14,930 | 那各黨團現在陳總召講出這個 |
| 02:17:14,930 | 02:17:16,930 | 那我們各黨團來決定共同協商 |
| 02:17:16,930 | 02:17:18,930 | 他還是有業務進行 |
| 02:17:18,930 | 02:17:20,930 | 而且如果沒有委員主委不就是主命 |
| 02:17:20,930 | 02:17:22,930 | 就是代表嘛 |
| 02:17:22,930 | 02:17:24,930 | 這個制度上並沒有問題 |
| 02:17:24,930 | 02:17:26,930 | 那要檢討的是為什麼委員都沒有 |
| 02:17:26,930 | 02:17:28,930 | 辦法被通過嘛 |
| 02:17:28,930 | 02:17:30,930 | 所以是不是他還是有業務進行 |
| 02:17:30,930 | 02:17:32,930 | 那能夠讓主命講一下 |
| 02:17:32,930 | 02:17:34,930 | 我現在的議案是 |
| 02:17:34,930 | 02:17:36,930 | 我現在的主任秘書 |
| 02:17:36,930 | 02:17:38,930 | 可以負責整個 |
| 02:17:38,930 | 02:17:40,930 | 通信傳播委員會嗎 |
| 02:17:40,930 | 02:17:42,930 | 沒關係 |
| 02:17:42,930 | 02:17:44,930 | 這個值得職權要確認啦 |
| 02:17:44,930 | 02:17:46,930 | 這主命你也別回答因為你也為難 |
| 02:17:46,930 | 02:17:48,930 | 好不好很多事情也不是你決定 |
| 02:17:48,930 | 02:17:50,930 | 謝謝院長 |
| 02:17:50,930 | 02:17:52,930 | 這個縱使喔 |
| 02:17:52,930 | 02:17:54,930 | 開始為現在沒有主委嘛 |
| 02:17:54,930 | 02:17:56,930 | 沒有主委我們還在這裡在揮 |
| 02:17:56,930 | 02:17:58,930 | 雞生蛋蛋生雞我們揮這個沒意思 |
| 02:17:58,930 | 02:18:00,930 | 大家都知道 |
| 02:18:00,930 | 02:18:02,930 | 這個他要運作喔 |
| 02:18:01,320 | 02:18:03,320 | 一個機關要運作要預算嘛 |
| 02:18:03,320 | 02:18:05,320 | 畢竟派主命來也很有生意 |
| 02:18:05,320 | 02:18:07,320 | 不然你開始為難 |
| 02:18:07,320 | 02:18:09,320 | 不然委員怎麼沒有主委 |
| 02:18:09,320 | 02:18:11,320 | 我們就不跟他們同意就一定沒有 |
| 02:18:11,320 | 02:18:13,320 | 再討論 |
| 02:18:13,320 | 02:18:15,320 | 這個要我們運作完後我們看他的預算 |
| 02:18:15,320 | 02:18:17,320 | 合理嗎 |
| 02:18:17,320 | 02:18:19,320 | 不合理的你跟立法院要怎麼處理就怎麼處理 |
| 02:18:19,320 | 02:18:21,320 | 合理的我們本地就要讓他運作 |
| 02:18:21,320 | 02:18:23,320 | 好不好 |
| 02:18:23,320 | 02:18:25,320 | 謝謝這樣子好不好我們折衷一下 |
| 02:18:25,320 | 02:18:27,320 | 我們等一下把國家通信傳播委員會的 |
| 02:18:27,320 | 02:18:29,320 | 通三部分處理完畢之後 |
| 02:18:29,320 | 02:18:31,320 | 我們再另行處理 |
| 02:18:31,320 | 02:18:33,320 | 這樣我想大家 |
| 02:18:33,320 | 02:18:35,320 | 關心的點我們都顧到了 |
| 02:18:35,320 | 02:18:37,320 | 謝謝院長 |
| 02:18:37,320 | 02:18:39,320 | 不好意思啊辛苦一下 |
| 02:18:39,320 | 02:18:41,320 | 我們就是第30 31 32 |
| 02:18:43,440 | 02:18:45,440 | 我們就通三 |
| 02:18:45,440 | 02:18:47,440 | 其餘的我們就三個黨團 |
| 02:18:47,440 | 02:18:49,440 | 我們來另行時間我們來處理 |
| 02:18:49,440 | 02:18:51,440 | 謝謝主命辛苦啊 |
| 02:18:51,440 | 02:18:53,440 | 請保持微笑 |
| 02:18:56,209 | 02:18:58,209 | 我們進入行政公共工程委員會 |
| 02:18:58,209 | 02:19:00,209 | 麻煩陳副主委 |
| 02:19:04,430 | 02:19:06,430 | 請坐 |
| 02:19:07,080 | 02:19:09,080 | 請坐 |
| 02:19:09,080 | 02:19:11,080 | 公共工程委員會51案通三 |
| 02:19:11,080 | 02:19:13,080 | 謝謝陳副主委 |
| 02:19:13,080 | 02:19:15,080 | 謝謝您請坐 |
| 02:19:15,010 | 02:19:17,010 | 我們進入交通部主管陳部長 |
| 02:19:17,010 | 02:19:19,010 | 陳部長請坐 |
| 02:19:19,010 | 02:19:21,010 | 歡迎您請坐 |
| 02:19:21,930 | 02:19:23,930 | 我們64案通三 |
| 02:19:23,930 | 02:19:25,930 | 7案82案83案84案 |
| 02:19:25,930 | 02:19:27,930 | 93案 |
| 02:19:27,930 | 02:19:29,930 | 民眾黨團凍結1000萬元 |
| 02:19:29,930 | 02:19:31,930 | 交通部這邊可以接受吧 |
| 02:19:32,440 | 02:19:34,440 | 我們建議文字修正 |
| 02:19:34,440 | 02:19:36,440 | 有一段文字我們建議修正 |
| 02:19:36,440 | 02:19:38,440 | 撤回片面懲處辦法 |
| 02:19:38,440 | 02:19:40,440 | 並且重啟勞資協商 |
| 02:19:40,440 | 02:19:42,440 | 這一段文字是不是可以修正 |
| 02:19:42,440 | 02:19:44,440 | 再請陳青龍 |
| 02:19:44,440 | 02:19:46,440 | 趙偉總理 |
| 02:19:46,440 | 02:19:48,440 | 謝謝部長 |
| 02:19:48,440 | 02:19:50,440 | 那文字再修正我們就保留 |
| 02:19:51,700 | 02:19:53,700 | 我們遵照辦理 |
| 02:19:58,410 | 02:20:00,410 | 還有 |
| 02:19:59,630 | 02:20:01,630 | 提書面報告 |
| 02:20:01,630 | 02:20:03,630 | 那陳副主委這樣可以了嗎 |
| 02:20:04,250 | 02:20:06,250 | 笑一下太嚴肅了 |
| 02:20:07,630 | 02:20:09,630 | 我們95案通三 |
| 02:20:11,370 | 02:20:13,370 | 我們進入115161718通三 |
| 02:20:15,730 | 02:20:17,730 | 139國民黨團結立1億元 |
| 02:20:17,730 | 02:20:19,730 | 請林沛祥署長 |
| 02:20:20,930 | 02:20:22,930 | 這案要保留 |
| 02:20:22,930 | 02:20:24,930 | 139保留141案民眾黨團凍結1億元 |
| 02:20:24,930 | 02:20:26,930 | 請表達意見 |
| 02:20:30,120 | 02:20:32,120 | 有關114案 |
| 02:20:32,120 | 02:20:34,120 | 陳總理你不要表達意見 |
| 02:20:34,120 | 02:20:36,120 | 交通部能不能接受 |
| 02:20:36,120 | 02:20:38,120 | 再加一個改書面報告 |
| 02:20:38,120 | 02:20:40,120 | 我們是不是建議改書面報告 |
| 02:20:40,120 | 02:20:42,120 | 就是你凍結1億元 |
| 02:20:42,120 | 02:20:44,120 | 改書面報告陳總長能接受嗎 |
| 02:20:45,830 | 02:20:47,830 | 他們都大眾人 |
| 02:20:47,830 | 02:20:49,830 | 改書面報告 |
| 02:20:49,830 | 02:20:51,830 | 改書面報告 |
| 02:20:51,830 | 02:20:53,830 | 143檢列5000萬元 |
| 02:20:53,830 | 02:20:55,830 | 民眾黨團所提交通部能接受嗎 |
| 02:20:56,550 | 02:20:58,550 | 我們希望是不是改主決議 |
| 02:20:58,550 | 02:21:00,550 | 改主決議陳總長能接受嗎 |
| 02:21:01,610 | 02:21:03,610 | 這個部分我們也支持 |
| 02:21:03,610 | 02:21:05,610 | 我們的一個風情區域 |
| 02:21:05,610 | 02:21:07,610 | 一個開發感建設 |
| 02:21:08,210 | 02:21:10,210 | 那我們是3500萬 |
| 02:21:10,210 | 02:21:12,210 | 我已經看到了白紙黑字 |
| 02:21:12,210 | 02:21:14,210 | 陳部長講完這個你有沒有彈性 |
| 02:21:16,070 | 02:21:18,070 | 主決議我們就要保留 |
| 02:21:18,070 | 02:21:20,070 | 但是刪減數 |
| 02:21:20,070 | 02:21:22,070 | 要不要刪減數可不可以降低 |
| 02:21:22,070 | 02:21:24,070 | 譬如說1000萬 |
| 02:21:24,070 | 02:21:26,070 | 陳總長可以接受嗎 |
| 02:21:26,070 | 02:21:28,070 | 接受我們這樣就 |
| 02:21:28,070 | 02:21:30,070 | 2000 |
| 02:21:30,070 | 02:21:32,070 | 2000 |
| 02:21:32,090 | 02:21:34,090 | 非常好 |
| 02:21:33,340 | 02:21:35,340 | 台中人就是有感情 |
| 02:21:35,340 | 02:21:37,340 | 151案通3156案 |
| 02:21:37,340 | 02:21:39,340 | 又是民眾黨團 |
| 02:21:39,340 | 02:21:41,340 | 減6億6千萬元 |
| 02:21:41,340 | 02:21:43,340 | 交通部請表達意見 |
| 02:21:43,340 | 02:21:45,340 | 我們想要見請是不是同意 |
| 02:21:45,340 | 02:21:47,340 | 改減列500萬 |
| 02:21:47,340 | 02:21:49,340 | 因為我們目前這個預算已經執行 |
| 02:21:49,340 | 02:21:51,340 | 相當大的比例 |
| 02:21:51,340 | 02:21:53,340 | 已經過了三分之二時間 |
| 02:21:53,340 | 02:21:55,340 | 全國各地的監理在執行 |
| 02:21:55,340 | 02:21:57,340 | 已經都陸陸續續執行三分之二時間 |
| 02:21:57,340 | 02:21:59,340 | 現在這樣的確會造成困難 |
| 02:21:59,340 | 02:22:01,340 | 減列的數額是不是要降低 |
| 02:22:01,340 | 02:22:03,340 | 這個部分 |
| 02:22:03,340 | 02:22:05,340 | 公路局這邊 |
| 02:22:05,340 | 02:22:07,340 | 也跟我們黨團這邊有從門溝通 |
| 02:22:07,340 | 02:22:09,340 | 但是這個案子 |
| 02:22:09,340 | 02:22:11,340 | 我們要專案保留 |
| 02:22:12,000 | 02:22:14,000 | 我們保留 |
| 02:22:13,700 | 02:22:15,700 | 我們保留 |
| 02:22:15,390 | 02:22:17,390 | 好沒關係 |
| 02:22:17,390 | 02:22:19,390 | 陳部長還有兩天時間你繼續溝通 |
| 02:22:19,390 | 02:22:21,390 | 我相信陳總召他也是 |
| 02:22:21,300 | 02:22:23,300 | 會很寬大的一個 |
| 02:22:23,300 | 02:22:25,300 | 心胸他會接受的好不好 |
| 02:22:25,300 | 02:22:27,300 | 謝謝院長 |
| 02:22:28,820 | 02:22:30,820 | 謝謝陳部長 |
| 02:22:30,820 | 02:22:32,820 | 還有寶貴的兩天 |
| 02:22:32,820 | 02:22:34,820 | 黃金時間 |
| 02:22:34,820 | 02:22:36,820 | 我相信他真的 |
| 02:22:36,820 | 02:22:38,820 | 他是非常理性的請放心 |
| 02:22:38,820 | 02:22:40,820 | 我們祝福一切順利 |
| 02:22:40,820 | 02:22:42,820 | 我們進入速發布 |
| 02:22:47,940 | 02:22:49,940 | 謝謝我們請 |
| 02:22:49,940 | 02:22:51,940 | 速發部林部長請就座 |
| 02:22:51,940 | 02:22:53,940 | 謝謝 |
| 02:22:53,940 | 02:22:57,940 | 我們180 181 182 183 185通3 |
| 02:22:57,940 | 02:22:59,940 | 187民眾黨團減列4億元 |
| 02:22:59,940 | 02:23:01,940 | 速發部能接受嗎請直接說 |
| 02:23:02,390 | 02:23:04,390 | OK |
| 02:23:04,390 | 02:23:06,390 | 這一案主要是做 |
| 02:23:06,390 | 02:23:10,390 | 偏鄉離島的通訊韌性 |
| 02:23:10,390 | 02:23:12,390 | 還有 |
| 02:23:12,390 | 02:23:14,390 | AI的發展 |
| 02:23:14,390 | 02:23:16,390 | 偏鄉離島包含 |
| 02:23:16,390 | 02:23:18,390 | 光纖的海纜 |
| 02:23:18,390 | 02:23:20,390 | 偏鄉的微波通訊 |
| 02:23:20,390 | 02:23:22,390 | 還有高抗災機器台等等 |
| 02:23:22,390 | 02:23:24,390 | 這個部分 |
| 02:23:24,390 | 02:23:26,390 | 因為我們現在 |
| 02:23:26,390 | 02:23:28,390 | 已經執行了大概 |
| 02:23:28,390 | 02:23:30,390 | 10億元 |
| 02:23:30,390 | 02:23:32,390 | 我們先列的預算是11億 |
| 02:23:32,390 | 02:23:34,390 | 那 |
| 02:23:34,390 | 02:23:36,390 | 前面交委會跟黨團協商 |
| 02:23:36,390 | 02:23:38,390 | 已經刪掉8000多萬 |
| 02:23:38,390 | 02:23:40,390 | 所以剩下4個月其實我們也只剩下 |
| 02:23:40,390 | 02:23:42,390 | 1800萬而已 |
| 02:23:42,390 | 02:23:44,390 | 那如果說要刪掉4億的話 |
| 02:23:44,390 | 02:23:46,390 | 那我們就只好跟 |
| 02:23:46,390 | 02:23:48,390 | 一些廠商解約或者是 |
| 02:23:48,390 | 02:23:50,390 | 變更合約 |
| 02:23:50,390 | 02:23:52,390 | 那我們這個地方是不是我們可以 |
| 02:23:52,390 | 02:23:54,390 | 少一點就是減列6000萬元 |
| 02:23:54,390 | 02:23:56,390 | 那我們還是會去做 |
| 02:23:56,390 | 02:23:58,390 | 解除解約 |
| 02:23:58,390 | 02:24:00,390 | 但是至少讓我們比較容易 |
| 02:24:00,390 | 02:24:02,390 | 去跟廠商說明 |
| 02:24:02,390 | 02:24:04,390 | 然後這種任性建設 |
| 02:24:04,390 | 02:24:06,390 | 的這種事情就是 |
| 02:24:06,390 | 02:24:08,390 | 有一種買保險的概念 |
| 02:24:08,390 | 02:24:10,390 | 就是我們多建這個光纖海纜 |
| 02:24:10,390 | 02:24:12,390 | 多建微波通訊台 |
| 02:24:12,390 | 02:24:14,390 | 當然是發生天災 |
| 02:24:14,390 | 02:24:16,390 | 謝謝 |
| 02:24:16,390 | 02:24:18,390 | 不過你這裡連我聽都有點矛盾 |
| 02:24:18,390 | 02:24:20,390 | 你只剩下1000多萬 |
| 02:24:20,390 | 02:24:22,390 | 可以減列6000萬 |
| 02:24:21,210 | 02:24:23,210 | 然後逼著你要跟廠商解約 |
| 02:24:23,210 | 02:24:25,210 | 這個邏輯這個聽起來 |
| 02:24:25,210 | 02:24:27,210 | 很怪異耶 那你當初簽這個 |
| 02:24:27,210 | 02:24:29,210 | 約的時候是完全是 |
| 02:24:29,210 | 02:24:31,210 | 有彈性喔 |
| 02:24:31,350 | 02:24:33,350 | 那就是沒有辦法的 |
| 02:24:33,350 | 02:24:35,350 | 理論上你應該說 |
| 02:24:35,350 | 02:24:37,350 | 可以減列同意1000萬 |
| 02:24:37,350 | 02:24:39,350 | 比較合情合理 |
| 02:24:39,350 | 02:24:41,350 | 可以減列6000萬我連我聽都怪怪的 |
| 02:24:41,350 | 02:24:43,350 | 請專案行政長請發言 |
| 02:24:43,350 | 02:24:45,350 | 代表院長都很顧忌到 |
| 02:24:45,350 | 02:24:47,350 | 整個行政機關的運作 |
| 02:24:47,350 | 02:24:49,350 | 不過院長我在這個地方 |
| 02:24:49,350 | 02:24:51,350 | 好意的提醒 |
| 02:24:51,350 | 02:24:53,350 | 書發部這個去年這個工坊過度 |
| 02:24:53,350 | 02:24:55,350 | 嚴重了 |
| 02:24:55,350 | 02:24:57,350 | 因為涉及到整個叫做任性 |
| 02:24:57,350 | 02:24:59,350 | 任性的部分 |
| 02:24:59,350 | 02:25:01,350 | 不管是台灣民眾黨或者中國國民黨 |
| 02:25:01,350 | 02:25:03,350 | 這條大家說的好 |
| 02:25:03,350 | 02:25:05,350 | 這條大家不要太批判 |
| 02:25:05,350 | 02:25:07,350 | 你這樣刪除會碰到一個問題 |
| 02:25:07,350 | 02:25:09,350 | 你說偏鄉那個部分第四台發射器 |
| 02:25:09,350 | 02:25:11,350 | 這個去年大家打過 |
| 02:25:11,350 | 02:25:13,350 | 政黨工坊我不想再打你們了 |
| 02:25:13,350 | 02:25:15,350 | 真的不好 |
| 02:25:15,350 | 02:25:17,350 | 那確實會影響到 |
| 02:25:17,350 | 02:25:19,350 | 然後你那個海覽的部分確實也會影響到 |
| 02:25:19,350 | 02:25:21,350 | 而且最主要是你那個行動 |
| 02:25:21,350 | 02:25:23,350 | 行政機立台 |
| 02:25:23,350 | 02:25:25,350 | 總是會有颱風天 |
| 02:25:25,350 | 02:25:27,350 | 總是會有下大雨 |
| 02:25:27,350 | 02:25:29,350 | 會有地震 |
| 02:25:29,350 | 02:25:31,350 | 這些是不是 |
| 02:25:31,350 | 02:25:33,350 | 都屬於民生的部分 |
| 02:25:33,350 | 02:25:35,350 | 這條辦完過 |
| 02:25:35,350 | 02:25:37,350 | 好好去運作 |
| 02:25:37,350 | 02:25:39,350 | 那我倒想知道一點就是說 |
| 02:25:39,350 | 02:25:41,350 | 因為你們 |
| 02:25:41,350 | 02:25:43,350 | 現在八月 |
| 02:25:43,350 | 02:25:45,350 | 九十十一十二 |
| 02:25:45,350 | 02:25:47,350 | 你到底你 |
| 02:25:47,350 | 02:25:49,350 | 因為你剛剛部長你提到說你交通委員會 |
| 02:25:49,350 | 02:25:51,350 | 你們做出來的決議 |
| 02:25:51,350 | 02:25:53,350 | 你們是刪多少 |
| 02:25:53,250 | 02:25:55,250 | 刪 |
| 02:25:54,480 | 02:25:56,480 | 三八千 |
| 02:25:56,480 | 02:25:58,480 | 黨團這邊提議 |
| 02:25:58,480 | 02:26:00,480 | 又再去加碼以後 |
| 02:26:00,480 | 02:26:02,480 | 像這種案子是不是我們盡量來尊重委員會 |
| 02:26:02,480 | 02:26:04,480 | 然後讓他的 |
| 02:26:04,480 | 02:26:06,480 | 執行處的部分 |
| 02:26:06,480 | 02:26:08,480 | 已經發出去了你說快八成 |
| 02:26:08,480 | 02:26:10,480 | 你又剩下四個月的時間 |
| 02:26:10,480 | 02:26:12,480 | 是不是比例上 |
| 02:26:12,480 | 02:26:14,480 | 院長也一直在講 |
| 02:26:14,480 | 02:26:16,480 | 我們這又刪一輩子 |
| 02:26:16,480 | 02:26:18,480 | 陳總召林部長的表達 |
| 02:26:18,480 | 02:26:20,480 | 莊書記長的表達就是說 |
| 02:26:21,140 | 02:26:23,140 | 對 |
| 02:26:23,140 | 02:26:25,140 | 這一前列六千萬 |
| 02:26:25,140 | 02:26:27,140 | 在這裡我們都 |
| 02:26:27,720 | 02:26:29,720 | 我們都了解 |
| 02:26:30,610 | 02:26:32,610 | 院長保護黃金兩天 |
| 02:26:32,610 | 02:26:34,610 | 請說阿布 |
| 02:26:34,610 | 02:26:36,610 | 就他實際的 |
| 02:26:36,610 | 02:26:38,610 | 預算需求數字 |
| 02:26:38,610 | 02:26:40,610 | 我們來做 |
| 02:26:40,380 | 02:26:42,380 | 整個了解 |
| 02:26:42,380 | 02:26:44,380 | 保護黃金兩天 |
| 02:26:44,380 | 02:26:46,380 | 陳總召已經把通關密碼講出來了 |
| 02:26:46,380 | 02:26:48,380 | 未來兩天請 |
| 02:26:48,380 | 02:26:50,380 | 書發部跟陳總召民眾黨團國民黨團這邊 |
| 02:26:50,380 | 02:26:52,380 | 多溝通這邊是可以有 |
| 02:26:52,380 | 02:26:54,380 | 還是會有一些空間 |
| 02:26:54,380 | 02:26:56,380 | 我們先保留 |
| 02:26:56,380 | 02:26:58,380 | 一八八案國民黨團 |
| 02:26:58,380 | 02:27:00,380 | 簡略25% |
| 02:27:00,380 | 02:27:02,380 | 請 |
| 02:27:02,380 | 02:27:04,380 | 一八八案一樣就是還是請書發部 |
| 02:27:04,380 | 02:27:06,380 | 再持續溝通 |
| 02:27:06,380 | 02:27:08,380 | 一九零跟一九三 |
| 02:27:08,380 | 02:27:10,380 | 三個案子 |
| 02:27:10,380 | 02:27:12,380 | 那就一八八一九零一九二一九三 |
| 02:27:12,380 | 02:27:14,380 | 保留 |
| 02:27:14,380 | 02:27:16,380 | 然後再請您這未來這兩天溝通一下 |
| 02:27:16,380 | 02:27:18,380 | 我覺得他們講話都可以聽得出來 |
| 02:27:18,380 | 02:27:20,380 | 他們很有誠意來跟你 |
| 02:27:20,380 | 02:27:22,380 | 面對面的討論 |
| 02:27:22,380 | 02:27:26,380 | 一九八一九九二零七 |
| 02:27:27,040 | 02:27:29,040 | 一九八簡略25% |
| 02:27:29,040 | 02:27:31,040 | 也是保留是嗎 |
| 02:27:32,170 | 02:27:34,170 | 一九八跟二零七 |
| 02:27:34,170 | 02:27:36,170 | 一樣是也是請書發部 |
| 02:27:36,170 | 02:27:38,170 | 我們再利用這兩天 |
| 02:27:38,170 | 02:27:40,170 | 一九八保留二零七保留 |
| 02:27:40,170 | 02:27:42,170 | 現在回到一九九 |
| 02:27:42,170 | 02:27:44,170 | 民眾黨團體的簡略議員林部長請表達意見 |
| 02:27:45,110 | 02:27:47,110 | 一九九 |
| 02:27:47,110 | 02:27:49,110 | 一九八跟一九九主要是 |
| 02:27:49,110 | 02:27:51,110 | T-Row跟GSN |
| 02:27:51,110 | 02:27:53,110 | 就是政府各個部門之間 |
| 02:27:53,110 | 02:27:55,110 | 還有中央政府跟地方政府 |
| 02:27:55,110 | 02:27:57,110 | 譬如說衛生所 |
| 02:27:57,110 | 02:27:59,110 | 還有戶政事務所 |
| 02:27:59,110 | 02:28:01,110 | 還有跟中央政府的電腦系統 |
| 02:28:01,110 | 02:28:03,110 | 要借接的網路 |
| 02:28:03,110 | 02:28:05,110 | 那這個部分如果遭到刪減的話 |
| 02:28:05,110 | 02:28:07,110 | 坦白講 |
| 02:28:07,110 | 02:28:09,110 | 有一個風險在因為我們現在要做升級 |
| 02:28:09,110 | 02:28:11,110 | 現在我們在資安方面 |
| 02:28:11,110 | 02:28:13,110 | 我們要做 |
| 02:28:13,110 | 02:28:15,110 | 後量子密碼的 |
| 02:28:15,110 | 02:28:17,110 | 遷移 |
| 02:28:17,110 | 02:28:19,110 | 現在有量子電腦可能會產生 |
| 02:28:19,110 | 02:28:21,110 | 新的資安攻擊 |
| 02:28:21,110 | 02:28:23,110 | 那這個如果說不做的話坦白講 |
| 02:28:23,110 | 02:28:25,110 | 也不一定會發生事情但是就是少了一份 |
| 02:28:25,110 | 02:28:27,110 | 保險我們如果說做後量子 |
| 02:28:27,110 | 02:28:29,110 | 密碼遷移的話這個會有一些影響 |
| 02:28:29,110 | 02:28:31,110 | 陳宇中是不是請書發部 |
| 02:28:31,110 | 02:28:33,110 | 保留掌握住未來兩天黃金時間 |
| 02:28:34,150 | 02:28:36,150 | 是不是標準答案 |
| 02:28:36,150 | 02:28:38,150 | 書發部就是未來兩天 |
| 02:28:38,150 | 02:28:40,150 | 跟溝通國民黨團 |
| 02:28:40,150 | 02:28:42,150 | 台灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:28:42,840 | 02:28:44,840 | 我還是要幫書發部講一下 |
| 02:28:44,840 | 02:28:46,840 | 因為我看到的資料其實目前 |
| 02:28:46,840 | 02:28:48,840 | 不管是線上申請 |
| 02:28:48,840 | 02:28:50,840 | 換護照還有就學貸款 |
| 02:28:50,840 | 02:28:52,840 | 那這些的穩定性 |
| 02:28:52,840 | 02:28:54,840 | 書發部都有協助而且現在 |
| 02:28:54,840 | 02:28:56,840 | 全世界的政府的 |
| 02:28:56,840 | 02:28:58,840 | 就是資安都在升級 |
| 02:28:58,840 | 02:29:00,840 | 他們也是在協助 |
| 02:29:00,840 | 02:29:02,840 | 就是政府的幫忙還有包含 |
| 02:29:02,840 | 02:29:04,840 | 所謂的供應鏈資安升級 |
| 02:29:04,840 | 02:29:06,840 | 那我想這些東西其實 |
| 02:29:06,840 | 02:29:08,840 | 是蠻需要經費的 |
| 02:29:08,840 | 02:29:10,840 | 那他們列的說實在的 |
| 02:29:10,840 | 02:29:12,840 | 從整個數位政府來講的話 |
| 02:29:12,840 | 02:29:14,840 | 這個經費真的需要 |
| 02:29:14,840 | 02:29:16,840 | 就是使用那希望就是 |
| 02:29:16,840 | 02:29:18,840 | 藍白兩黨可以支持書發部的 |
| 02:29:18,840 | 02:29:20,840 | 從剛剛的海蘭到這個 |
| 02:29:20,840 | 02:29:22,840 | 政府的數位化跟資安 |
| 02:29:22,840 | 02:29:24,840 | 謝謝你發言那剛才已經 |
| 02:29:24,840 | 02:29:26,840 | 那個國民黨團跟台灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:29:26,840 | 02:29:28,840 | 事實上也表達得非常的 |
| 02:29:28,840 | 02:29:30,840 | 非常地和善了他們就希望未來兩天 |
| 02:29:30,840 | 02:29:32,840 | 有一個更深度的溝通嘛這已經 |
| 02:29:32,840 | 02:29:34,840 | 有通關密碼了我們 |
| 02:29:34,840 | 02:29:36,840 | 212通3213國民黨團 |
| 02:29:36,840 | 02:29:38,840 | 是保留檢驗25號 |
| 02:29:38,840 | 02:29:40,840 | 214國民黨團檢驗25 |
| 02:29:40,840 | 02:29:42,840 | 215檢驗25 |
| 02:29:42,840 | 02:29:44,840 | 是不是保留 |
| 02:29:44,840 | 02:29:46,840 | 好保留我們準備溝通 |
| 02:29:46,840 | 02:29:48,840 | 21通3223 |
| 02:29:48,840 | 02:29:50,840 | 國民黨檢驗25% |
| 02:29:50,840 | 02:29:52,840 | 224檢驗25% |
| 02:29:52,840 | 02:29:54,840 | 225檢驗25% |
| 02:29:54,840 | 02:29:56,840 | 226檢驗25% |
| 02:29:56,840 | 02:29:58,840 | 國民黨團是不是 |
| 02:29:59,230 | 02:30:01,230 | 是的保留好 |
| 02:30:01,230 | 02:30:03,230 | 229通3230 |
| 02:30:03,230 | 02:30:05,230 | 檢驗25% |
| 02:30:05,230 | 02:30:07,230 | 231檢驗25% |
| 02:30:07,230 | 02:30:09,230 | 那是不是保留 |
| 02:30:10,030 | 02:30:12,030 | 是的 |
| 02:30:16,820 | 02:30:18,820 | 這個執行的數產署署長來說明一下 |
| 02:30:18,820 | 02:30:20,820 | 跟總召報告 |
| 02:30:20,820 | 02:30:22,820 | 是不是可以改為這個 |
| 02:30:22,820 | 02:30:24,820 | 凍結15%因為在第二輪的時候 |
| 02:30:24,820 | 02:30:26,820 | 我們已經刪減了5億 |
| 02:30:26,820 | 02:30:28,820 | 是不是請總召這邊可以考量 |
| 02:30:28,820 | 02:30:30,820 | 凍結15%然後書面報告 |
| 02:30:30,820 | 02:30:32,820 | 我們會盡快來寫 |
| 02:30:36,760 | 02:30:38,760 | 232案 |
| 02:30:38,760 | 02:30:40,760 | 院長我們 |
| 02:30:40,760 | 02:30:42,760 | 班長團還是保留 |
| 02:30:42,760 | 02:30:44,760 | 232保留233國民黨團 |
| 02:30:44,760 | 02:30:46,760 | 檢驗25% |
| 02:30:46,760 | 02:30:48,760 | 234國民黨團檢驗25% |
| 02:30:48,760 | 02:30:50,760 | 是不是保留 |
| 02:30:50,760 | 02:30:52,760 | 是的 |
| 02:30:51,660 | 02:30:53,660 | 謝謝書發部 |
| 02:30:53,660 | 02:30:55,660 | 我們進入 |
| 02:30:55,660 | 02:30:57,660 | 進入司法法制 |
| 02:30:57,660 | 02:30:59,660 | 謝謝 |
| 02:31:10,460 | 02:31:12,460 | 好 |
| 02:31:12,460 | 02:31:14,460 | 好 |
| 02:31:16,130 | 02:31:18,130 | 謝謝謝謝麻煩請 |
| 02:31:18,130 | 02:31:20,130 | 何副秘書長請坐 |
| 02:31:22,700 | 02:31:24,700 | 請坐何副秘書長請坐 |
| 02:31:32,160 | 02:31:34,160 | 何副秘書長一坐定我們就開始 |
| 02:31:34,160 | 02:31:36,160 | 好謝謝 |
| 02:31:36,160 | 02:31:38,160 | 現在跟黨的幹部我們現在進入總統府 |
| 02:31:38,160 | 02:31:40,160 | 麻煩請林沛祥署長請先發言 |
| 02:31:40,160 | 02:31:42,160 | 是的現在總統在這邊 |
| 02:31:42,160 | 02:31:44,160 | 有兩個案子 |
| 02:31:44,160 | 02:31:46,160 | 一個是第四案 |
| 02:31:46,160 | 02:31:48,160 | 第四案要保留 |
| 02:31:49,020 | 02:31:51,020 | 是的被保留 |
| 02:31:51,020 | 02:31:53,020 | 第七案也要保留 |
| 02:31:54,350 | 02:31:56,350 | 好謝謝 |
| 02:31:56,350 | 02:31:58,350 | 各黨團幹部還有各黨團還有我們 |
| 02:31:58,350 | 02:32:00,350 | 何副秘書長列席官員 |
| 02:32:00,350 | 02:32:02,350 | 我們第四案保留第六案 |
| 02:32:02,350 | 02:32:04,350 | 台灣民眾黨團起檢列兩千萬 |
| 02:32:04,350 | 02:32:06,350 | 凍結一千萬元 |
| 02:32:06,350 | 02:32:08,350 | 何副秘書長請表達 |
| 02:32:08,350 | 02:32:10,350 | 是謝謝院長謝謝委員 |
| 02:32:10,350 | 02:32:12,350 | 委員我跟您報告 |
| 02:32:12,350 | 02:32:14,350 | 我想為難若是 |
| 02:32:14,350 | 02:32:16,350 | 絕對不是委員提案的本意 |
| 02:32:16,350 | 02:32:18,350 | 那 |
| 02:32:18,350 | 02:32:20,350 | 這一筆預算是15年的 |
| 02:32:20,350 | 02:32:22,350 | 預算就是今年的預算 |
| 02:32:22,350 | 02:32:24,350 | 在9月25號中秋節 |
| 02:32:24,350 | 02:32:26,350 | 其實馬上就要來臨了 |
| 02:32:26,350 | 02:32:28,350 | 那也跟歐文元再次的 |
| 02:32:28,350 | 02:32:30,350 | 報告裡面最大一筆 |
| 02:32:30,350 | 02:32:32,350 | 的預算是採購 |
| 02:32:32,350 | 02:32:34,350 | 這些秋節的糕餅禮盒 |
| 02:32:34,350 | 02:32:36,350 | 我們採購的對象是這些 |
| 02:32:36,350 | 02:32:38,350 | 庇護工廠是這些身心障礙 |
| 02:32:38,350 | 02:32:40,350 | 很認真的朋友 |
| 02:32:40,350 | 02:32:42,350 | 那我們制正的對象 |
| 02:32:42,350 | 02:32:44,350 | 有357個機構 |
| 02:32:44,350 | 02:32:46,350 | 還有榮民還有學校 |
| 02:32:46,350 | 02:32:48,350 | 還有偏鄉 |
| 02:32:48,350 | 02:32:50,350 | 這些孩子是需要國家 |
| 02:32:50,350 | 02:32:52,350 | 的關心的所以 |
| 02:32:52,350 | 02:32:54,350 | 再強調一次拜託我相信 |
| 02:32:54,350 | 02:32:56,350 | 這不是委員提案的 |
| 02:32:56,350 | 02:32:58,350 | 本意來為難這些弱勢 |
| 02:32:58,350 | 02:33:00,350 | 這絕對不是情勒 |
| 02:33:00,350 | 02:33:02,350 | 而是過往 |
| 02:33:02,350 | 02:33:04,350 | 歷任的元首都在 |
| 02:33:04,350 | 02:33:06,350 | 做的事所以拜託 |
| 02:33:06,350 | 02:33:08,350 | 拜託再拜託好謝謝 |
| 02:33:08,350 | 02:33:10,350 | 歐文元請發言 |
| 02:33:10,510 | 02:33:12,510 | 好謝謝剛剛秘書長的說明 |
| 02:33:12,510 | 02:33:14,510 | 我要講的就是我絕對不是 |
| 02:33:14,510 | 02:33:16,510 | 要去為難那些弱勢的 |
| 02:33:16,510 | 02:33:18,510 | 民族弱勢的 |
| 02:33:18,510 | 02:33:20,510 | 這個民眾也不是要為難 |
| 02:33:20,510 | 02:33:22,510 | 這個賴慶德總統 |
| 02:33:22,510 | 02:33:24,510 | 我希望賴慶德總統能夠 |
| 02:33:24,510 | 02:33:26,510 | 體認一件事情他今天 |
| 02:33:26,510 | 02:33:28,510 | 他違憲不去公布法律 |
| 02:33:28,510 | 02:33:30,510 | 不僅也是對於我們 |
| 02:33:30,510 | 02:33:32,510 | 立法院的不尊重 |
| 02:33:32,510 | 02:33:34,510 | 而且也是在為難全民 |
| 02:33:34,510 | 02:33:36,510 | 因為立法院不尊重這個理由 |
| 02:33:36,510 | 02:33:38,510 | 就來為難弱勢 |
| 02:33:38,510 | 02:33:40,510 | 我希望就是說 |
| 02:33:40,510 | 02:33:42,510 | 沒關係你要發言你等一下可以發言好不好 |
| 02:33:42,510 | 02:33:44,510 | 其實我現在的這個案子 |
| 02:33:44,510 | 02:33:46,510 | 其實是非常簡單對於賴總統 |
| 02:33:46,510 | 02:33:48,510 | 來講他是輕而易舉 |
| 02:33:48,510 | 02:33:50,510 | 他只要是將我們 |
| 02:33:50,510 | 02:33:52,510 | 立法院三讀通過的法律 |
| 02:33:52,510 | 02:33:54,510 | 依照憲法公布 |
| 02:33:54,510 | 02:33:56,510 | 這個自然兩千萬就立刻 |
| 02:33:56,510 | 02:33:58,510 | 解凍這是再簡單也不過 |
| 02:33:58,510 | 02:34:00,510 | 的事情所以我希望秘書長 |
| 02:34:00,510 | 02:34:02,510 | 可以回去去勸告 |
| 02:34:02,510 | 02:34:04,510 | 賴慶德總統真的不要為難 |
| 02:34:04,510 | 02:34:06,510 | 我們的憲政民主法制 |
| 02:34:06,510 | 02:34:08,510 | 何副民長請發言 |
| 02:34:08,510 | 02:34:10,510 | 這個部分一樣委員也是 |
| 02:34:10,510 | 02:34:12,510 | 輕而易舉如果你不 |
| 02:34:12,510 | 02:34:14,510 | 把這一筆預算這樣子 |
| 02:34:14,510 | 02:34:16,510 | 刪掉的話我相信這些弱勢 |
| 02:34:16,510 | 02:34:18,510 | 在馬上即將來臨的中秋節 |
| 02:34:18,510 | 02:34:20,510 | 會有國家的愛跟尊重 |
| 02:34:20,510 | 02:34:22,510 | 所以也拜託院長幫忙 |
| 02:34:22,510 | 02:34:24,510 | 也拜託各黨團幫忙 |
| 02:34:24,510 | 02:34:26,510 | 謝謝何副民長補充 |
| 02:34:26,510 | 02:34:28,510 | 發言那個 |
| 02:34:29,300 | 02:34:31,300 | 如果可以的話是不是 |
| 02:34:31,300 | 02:34:33,300 | 三五百萬請拜託 |
| 02:34:33,300 | 02:34:35,300 | 好的林培洋署長你要發言請發言 |
| 02:34:36,520 | 02:34:38,520 | 我的這個第九案 |
| 02:34:38,520 | 02:34:40,520 | 並第七案 |
| 02:34:41,970 | 02:34:43,970 | 保留 |
| 02:34:43,900 | 02:34:45,900 | 第九案 |
| 02:34:45,350 | 02:34:47,350 | 第九案 |
| 02:34:47,910 | 02:34:49,910 | 第九病 |
| 02:34:49,910 | 02:34:51,910 | 第九病第七 |
| 02:34:51,910 | 02:34:53,910 | 對 |
| 02:34:53,160 | 02:34:55,160 | 第八是我宇甄的提案我不能代表他 |
| 02:34:55,160 | 02:34:57,160 | 這是我個人提案第九是我個人提案 |
| 02:34:57,160 | 02:34:59,160 | 徐宇甄在旁邊你 |
| 02:34:59,160 | 02:35:01,160 | 你開去你就 |
| 02:35:02,980 | 02:35:04,980 | 第八案 |
| 02:35:04,980 | 02:35:06,980 | 第九案 |
| 02:35:06,980 | 02:35:08,980 | 第八案第九案病第七案 |
| 02:35:08,980 | 02:35:10,980 | 就很好 |
| 02:35:10,980 | 02:35:12,980 | 八九跟七就同案 |
| 02:35:12,980 | 02:35:14,980 | 那現在翁小金委員 |
| 02:35:14,980 | 02:35:16,980 | 這個何副民長 |
| 02:35:16,980 | 02:35:18,980 | 所提的希望能夠 |
| 02:35:18,980 | 02:35:20,980 | 簡列大概在五百萬左右 |
| 02:35:20,980 | 02:35:22,980 | 那現在第九案第八案 |
| 02:35:22,980 | 02:35:24,980 | 國民黨團林培洋林徐宇甄兩位 |
| 02:35:24,980 | 02:35:26,980 | 委員所提的凍結六百萬 |
| 02:35:26,980 | 02:35:28,980 | 左右事實上數字已經非常接近 |
| 02:35:28,980 | 02:35:30,980 | 我們是不是考量一下 |
| 02:35:30,980 | 02:35:32,980 | 就是說如果我們要 |
| 02:35:32,980 | 02:35:34,980 | 凍結六百萬元 |
| 02:35:34,980 | 02:35:36,980 | 你可以要求專案報告 |
| 02:35:36,980 | 02:35:38,980 | 你也可以要求改書面報告 |
| 02:35:38,980 | 02:35:40,980 | 那這樣跟兩位提案的委員 |
| 02:35:40,980 | 02:35:42,980 | 三位委員就完全打成一致 |
| 02:35:42,980 | 02:35:44,980 | 那何副民長的心願也了了 |
| 02:35:45,960 | 02:35:47,960 | 好 委員請 |
| 02:36:15,960 | 02:36:17,960 | 所以我這邊的話就是堅持說 |
| 02:36:17,960 | 02:36:19,960 | 基本上就是簡列 |
| 02:36:19,960 | 02:36:21,960 | 一千萬的國務教費 |
| 02:36:21,960 | 02:36:23,960 | 還有凍結兩千萬 |
| 02:36:23,960 | 02:36:25,960 | 我再次強調其實對於賴慶德總統來講 |
| 02:36:25,960 | 02:36:27,960 | 就是在他的一念之間 |
| 02:36:27,960 | 02:36:29,960 | 完全就是一念之間 |
| 02:36:29,960 | 02:36:31,960 | 為什麼要這麼為難 |
| 02:36:31,960 | 02:36:33,960 | 為什麼要把我們台灣的 |
| 02:36:33,960 | 02:36:35,960 | 憲法搞成是 |
| 02:36:35,960 | 02:36:37,960 | 如此的破毀 |
| 02:36:37,960 | 02:36:39,960 | 那麼這是我想很多的委員 |
| 02:36:39,960 | 02:36:41,960 | 還有很多的民眾都不能夠接受的 |
| 02:36:41,960 | 02:36:43,960 | 以上 |
| 02:36:43,960 | 02:36:45,960 | 再次拍 |
| 02:36:45,960 | 02:36:47,960 | 那要不要跟黨來提醒一下 |
| 02:36:47,960 | 02:36:49,960 | 第十案黃仁遠所提 |
| 02:36:49,960 | 02:36:51,960 | 病人會決議是保留 |
| 02:36:51,960 | 02:36:53,960 | 那是不是第十案第九案第八案都病 |
| 02:36:53,960 | 02:36:55,960 | 第七案 那個林培祥署長 |
| 02:36:55,960 | 02:36:57,960 | 這樣第一點我們現在確定了嗎 |
| 02:36:57,460 | 02:36:59,460 | 還有第十案黃仁委員的議席 |
| 02:36:59,460 | 02:37:01,460 | 我覺得他病在第幾檔 |
| 02:37:01,460 | 02:37:03,460 | 這是第一個大原則嘛 |
| 02:37:03,460 | 02:37:05,460 | 第二個就是台灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:37:05,460 | 02:37:07,460 | 邱書記長請表達一下意見 |
| 02:37:07,460 | 02:37:09,460 | 就是你們跟國民黨團是有落差 |
| 02:37:09,460 | 02:37:11,460 | 請表達 |
| 02:37:11,460 | 02:37:13,460 | 謝謝主席 那我想剛剛那個秘書長 |
| 02:37:13,460 | 02:37:15,460 | 就是何秘書長這邊也提到說 |
| 02:37:15,460 | 02:37:17,460 | 就是對於弱勢團體的一些關懷嘛 |
| 02:37:17,460 | 02:37:19,460 | 那我們台灣民眾黨當然 |
| 02:37:19,460 | 02:37:21,460 | 關懷弱勢團體也是不予以立 |
| 02:37:21,460 | 02:37:23,460 | 但是是不是可以給我們一些 |
| 02:37:23,460 | 02:37:25,460 | 相關的單據 |
| 02:37:25,460 | 02:37:27,460 | 我們做這兩天的黃金時機 |
| 02:37:27,460 | 02:37:29,460 | 然後把單據提供給我們 |
| 02:37:29,460 | 02:37:31,460 | 那如果有真的是 |
| 02:37:31,460 | 02:37:33,460 | 單據是指過去幾年這個國務機會使用的單據吧 |
| 02:37:34,220 | 02:37:36,220 | 今年的 今年的 |
| 02:37:36,220 | 02:37:38,220 | 他有單據 |
| 02:37:38,220 | 02:37:40,220 | 因為如果真的是一個愛跟關懷的表現 |
| 02:37:40,220 | 02:37:42,220 | 我們這邊支持 但是我覺得可能要有一些相關的單據 |
| 02:37:42,220 | 02:37:44,220 | 讓我們作為判斷的依據 |
| 02:37:44,220 | 02:37:46,220 | 以上說明 謝謝 |
| 02:37:46,220 | 02:37:48,220 | 邱委員本身就最有愛心了 |
| 02:37:48,220 | 02:37:50,220 | 跟院長學的 謝謝 |
| 02:37:50,220 | 02:37:52,220 | 何副院長 我們現在 |
| 02:37:52,220 | 02:37:54,220 | 現在三位提案委員 林委員 許委員 翁委員 |
| 02:37:54,220 | 02:37:56,220 | 都在現場 |
| 02:37:56,220 | 02:37:58,220 | 那如果能夠剪裂五百萬元 |
| 02:37:58,220 | 02:38:00,220 | 三位委員能不能接受 |
| 02:38:00,220 | 02:38:02,220 | 那邱委員代表台灣民眾黨團他希望提供單據 |
| 02:38:02,220 | 02:38:04,220 | 我們有一個辦法就是 |
| 02:38:04,220 | 02:38:06,220 | 等他們單據提供出來三位委員再思考 |
| 02:38:06,220 | 02:38:08,220 | 這也是一個辦法 |
| 02:38:08,220 | 02:38:10,220 | 第二個就是你們現在就決定可不可以接受剪裂五百萬 |
| 02:38:10,220 | 02:38:12,220 | 就這樣子吧 |
| 02:38:14,630 | 02:38:16,630 | 不是 這是不是凍結 就剪裂五百萬 |
| 02:38:16,630 | 02:38:18,630 | 就直接剪裂啦 |
| 02:38:18,630 | 02:38:20,630 | 直接就剪裂五百萬元 |
| 02:38:20,630 | 02:38:22,630 | 如果這樣達成 我們兩個黨團都達成的話 |
| 02:38:22,630 | 02:38:24,630 | 那我覺得這個就非常好 |
| 02:38:24,630 | 02:38:26,630 | 我們這第三次操演現場就有意義了 |
| 02:38:27,660 | 02:38:29,660 | 黃委員 你當一下就對他們來說 |
| 02:38:29,660 | 02:38:31,660 | 不痛不癢 你整個看就整個 |
| 02:38:31,660 | 02:38:33,660 | 因為你會剪裂一千嘛 |
| 02:38:33,660 | 02:38:35,660 | 台灣民眾黨團就比較嚴重 |
| 02:38:35,660 | 02:38:37,660 | 他要剪裂兩千 |
| 02:38:37,660 | 02:38:39,660 | 他現在是說只要有單據的話 |
| 02:38:39,660 | 02:38:41,660 | 他認為這個可以 |
| 02:38:41,660 | 02:38:43,660 | 因為我們現在就把這個案子 |
| 02:38:43,660 | 02:38:45,660 | 我們就解決掉 |
| 02:38:45,660 | 02:38:47,660 | 我們就通通給院長面子啦 |
| 02:38:47,660 | 02:38:49,660 | 我想這個部分的話 |
| 02:38:49,660 | 02:38:51,660 | 基本上就還是 我相信這個賴總統 |
| 02:38:51,660 | 02:38:53,660 | 他有這個智慧喔 |
| 02:38:53,660 | 02:38:55,660 | 因為這只是今年一五年的預算 |
| 02:38:55,660 | 02:38:57,660 | 還涉及到明年的預算 |
| 02:38:57,660 | 02:38:59,660 | 不要忘記了我們現在台灣未來帳戶的條例 |
| 02:38:59,660 | 02:39:01,660 | 到底行政院 |
| 02:39:01,660 | 02:39:03,660 | 會不會附屬 賴總統會不會公佈 |
| 02:39:03,660 | 02:39:05,660 | 我覺得這都是 |
| 02:39:05,660 | 02:39:07,660 | 一再一再的挑戰 |
| 02:39:07,660 | 02:39:09,660 | 我們立法院的 |
| 02:39:09,660 | 02:39:11,660 | 尊嚴 |
| 02:39:11,660 | 02:39:13,660 | 這已經講第三次了 我知道 |
| 02:39:13,660 | 02:39:15,660 | 現在就是說 |
| 02:39:15,660 | 02:39:17,660 | 如果提出剪裂五百萬 |
| 02:39:17,660 | 02:39:19,660 | 三位委員能不能接受 |
| 02:39:19,660 | 02:39:21,660 | 因為三位委員提的數字都不太一樣 |
| 02:39:21,660 | 02:39:23,660 | 不接受 林委員接受 徐委員接受 |
| 02:39:23,660 | 02:39:25,660 | 不接受 還是說三位都不接受 |
| 02:39:26,590 | 02:39:28,590 | 台灣民眾黨接受啦 |
| 02:39:28,590 | 02:39:30,590 | 我再補充說明一下啦 |
| 02:39:30,590 | 02:39:32,590 | 因為艾根關懷的動作我們很支持 |
| 02:39:32,590 | 02:39:34,590 | 但是第一還是 |
| 02:39:34,590 | 02:39:36,590 | 修好單據 那第二其實 |
| 02:39:36,590 | 02:39:38,590 | 我們也覺得說 |
| 02:39:38,590 | 02:39:40,590 | 這筆費用其實 |
| 02:39:40,590 | 02:39:42,590 | 當然是賴總統想表現艾根關懷 |
| 02:39:42,590 | 02:39:44,590 | 那其實也是他 |
| 02:39:44,590 | 02:39:46,590 | 自己的人情義理 |
| 02:39:46,590 | 02:39:48,590 | 那我覺得他要對洛士展現人情義理 |
| 02:39:48,590 | 02:39:50,590 | 我們支持 但是他在展現人情義理 |
| 02:39:50,590 | 02:39:52,590 | 的同時是不是 |
| 02:39:52,590 | 02:39:54,590 | 也要按照憲政體制來運作 |
| 02:39:54,590 | 02:39:56,590 | 因為畢竟兩千三百萬人民 |
| 02:39:56,590 | 02:39:58,590 | 都需要關照不是只有洛士 |
| 02:39:58,590 | 02:40:00,590 | 那我們當然也是希望 |
| 02:40:00,590 | 02:40:02,590 | 錢真的花在刀口上 |
| 02:40:02,590 | 02:40:04,590 | 所以我們這個 我們是希望有單據 |
| 02:40:04,590 | 02:40:06,590 | 但是原則是以保留的方向 |
| 02:40:06,590 | 02:40:08,590 | 前進這樣子 |
| 02:40:08,590 | 02:40:10,590 | 那就是未來兩天 |
| 02:40:10,590 | 02:40:12,590 | 您把單據請跟我們 |
| 02:40:12,590 | 02:40:14,590 | 台灣民眾黨團溝通 也跟國民黨團溝通 |
| 02:40:14,590 | 02:40:16,590 | 我們還有兩天的時間 我們看還有沒有轉環餘地 |
| 02:40:16,590 | 02:40:18,590 | 好嗎 好 |
| 02:40:18,590 | 02:40:20,590 | 再多拜託 因為那個民視過去 |
| 02:40:20,590 | 02:40:22,590 | 都有跟黨團這邊有提過 |
| 02:40:22,590 | 02:40:24,590 | 我們還持續溝通 再多拜託 |
| 02:40:24,590 | 02:40:26,590 | 我們七八九十病第七案來辦理 |
| 02:40:26,590 | 02:40:28,590 | 第六案也保留 |
| 02:40:28,590 | 02:40:30,590 | 第七案也保留 |
| 02:40:30,590 | 02:40:32,590 | 三案通三 |
| 02:40:32,590 | 02:40:34,590 | 好 謝謝何病長 辛苦你 |
| 02:40:34,590 | 02:40:36,590 | 未來兩天請你溝通 好嗎 謝謝 |
| 02:40:39,720 | 02:40:41,720 | 我們進入國家安全會議 |
| 02:40:44,330 | 02:40:46,330 | 謝謝 |
| 02:40:45,510 | 02:40:47,510 | 趙副民事長 |
| 02:40:47,510 | 02:40:49,510 | 請坐請坐 |
| 02:40:52,400 | 02:40:54,400 | 請坐 |
| 02:40:55,990 | 02:40:57,990 | 你以前來過立法院嗎 |
| 02:40:57,990 | 02:40:59,990 | 喔 好 我感覺 |
| 02:41:01,490 | 02:41:03,490 | 麵很深 我以為你沒來過 |
| 02:41:05,580 | 02:41:07,580 | 對對對 |
| 02:41:07,580 | 02:41:09,580 | 這裡說的我不喜歡來過 |
| 02:41:09,580 | 02:41:11,580 | 謝謝 十五案通三 十八案通三 |
| 02:41:11,580 | 02:41:13,580 | 十九案通三 |
| 02:41:13,580 | 02:41:15,580 | 謝謝趙副民事長 請回 謝謝 |
| 02:41:16,170 | 02:41:18,170 | 我們進入人種 人事總處 |
| 02:41:20,830 | 02:41:22,830 | 沈副人事長 請坐 |
| 02:41:23,780 | 02:41:25,780 | 我們進入二十七案 |
| 02:41:25,780 | 02:41:27,780 | 二十九案 三十案通三 |
| 02:41:28,270 | 02:41:30,270 | 好 謝謝 |
| 02:41:30,270 | 02:41:32,270 | 不好意思 因為我們 |
| 02:41:32,270 | 02:41:34,270 | 這是承招 |
| 02:41:34,270 | 02:41:36,270 | 我們有三十案 六十四案 |
| 02:41:36,270 | 02:41:38,270 | 一五四案 一八七案 |
| 02:41:38,270 | 02:41:40,270 | 是承招之委員說 這個提案的 |
| 02:41:40,270 | 02:41:42,270 | 那我們這四個案件 |
| 02:41:42,270 | 02:41:44,270 | 我們都是目前還是持保留的態度 |
| 02:41:44,270 | 02:41:46,270 | 以上一併說明 謝謝 |
| 02:41:46,270 | 02:41:48,270 | 三十案要改為保留 |
| 02:41:48,270 | 02:41:50,270 | 對對 |
| 02:41:50,270 | 02:41:52,270 | 還有咧 請繼續 |
| 02:41:52,270 | 02:41:54,270 | 還有六十四案 一五四 |
| 02:41:54,270 | 02:41:56,270 | 一八七 我們就一併 |
| 02:41:56,270 | 02:41:58,270 | 在這邊表達 我們就說 |
| 02:41:58,270 | 02:42:00,270 | 我們就把它先改為保留 |
| 02:42:00,270 | 02:42:02,270 | OK 謝謝 |
| 02:42:05,840 | 02:42:07,840 | 我們二十七 二十九 通三 三十案改為保留 |
| 02:42:09,870 | 02:42:11,870 | 好 |
| 02:42:11,870 | 02:42:13,870 | 我們謝謝沈副 |
| 02:42:13,870 | 02:42:15,870 | 人事長 謝謝您 |
| 02:42:15,870 | 02:42:17,870 | 我們進入立法院 |
| 02:42:20,530 | 02:42:22,530 | 好 各位黨團幹部 |
| 02:42:22,530 | 02:42:24,530 | 我們省自己的娘家 |
| 02:42:24,530 | 02:42:26,530 | 四九 五十 五十一 六 通三 |
| 02:42:26,530 | 02:42:28,530 | 我們怎麼立法院都沒有代表來 |
| 02:42:28,530 | 02:42:30,530 | 喔 秘書長 |
| 02:42:31,640 | 02:42:33,640 | OK 本來是在後面 什麼事情都 |
| 02:42:33,640 | 02:42:35,640 | 全院委員會 抱歉喔 |
| 02:42:35,640 | 02:42:37,640 | 因為那邊在主持全院委員會 秘書長在這邊 |
| 02:42:37,640 | 02:42:39,640 | 一兼二職 好 謝謝 我們通三 |
| 02:42:44,230 | 02:42:46,230 | 好 謝謝立法院可退 |
| 02:42:46,230 | 02:42:48,230 | 我們進入司法院 |
| 02:42:49,340 | 02:42:51,340 | 三十六 四十 |
| 02:42:51,340 | 02:42:53,340 | 我們告秘書長 |
| 02:42:52,970 | 02:42:54,970 | 好 謝謝 |
| 02:42:54,570 | 02:42:56,570 | 告秘書長今天有沒有帶溫開水來 |
| 02:42:59,160 | 02:43:04,710 | 你喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊喊 |
| 02:43:14,010 | 02:43:14,510 | 謝謝 |
| 02:43:14,770 | 02:43:16,110 | 我們司法院 |
| 02:43:16,110 | 02:43:16,610 | 54 |
| 02:43:16,610 | 02:43:17,110 | 55 |
| 02:43:17,110 | 02:43:17,610 | 56 |
| 02:43:17,610 | 02:43:18,110 | 57 |
| 02:43:18,110 | 02:43:18,610 | 58 |
| 02:43:18,610 | 02:43:19,110 | 62 |
| 02:43:19,110 | 02:43:19,610 | 63 |
| 02:43:19,610 | 02:43:20,110 | 64 |
| 02:43:20,110 | 02:43:20,610 | 64 |
| 02:43:20,610 | 02:43:21,610 | 跟正 |
| 02:43:21,610 | 02:43:23,210 | 64改為保留 |
| 02:43:23,210 | 02:43:24,110 | 一直到63 |
| 02:43:24,110 | 02:43:25,110 | 列為通3 |
| 02:43:25,110 | 02:43:26,110 | 64保留 |
| 02:43:26,110 | 02:43:27,110 | 65 |
| 02:43:27,110 | 02:43:28,410 | 通3 |
| 02:43:28,410 | 02:43:29,410 | 66 |
| 02:43:30,550 | 02:43:32,050 | 6667 |
| 02:43:32,050 | 02:43:33,050 | 我們併案 |
| 02:43:33,050 | 02:43:34,050 | 麻煩請 |
| 02:43:34,050 | 02:43:35,550 | 高秘書長表達意見 |
| 02:43:35,550 | 02:43:36,550 | 喔 |
| 02:43:36,550 | 02:43:37,349 | 這個 |
| 02:43:37,349 | 02:43:39,050 | 這個6667喔 |
| 02:43:39,050 | 02:43:40,949 | 上次有跟委員報告 |
| 02:43:40,949 | 02:43:42,750 | 這個是我們五廳 |
| 02:43:42,750 | 02:43:44,349 | 八處的錢喔 |
| 02:43:44,349 | 02:43:47,349 | 然後其實這邊還有一筆很重要的 |
| 02:43:48,200 | 02:43:49,000 | 關係到 |
| 02:43:49,850 | 02:43:50,350 | 我們 |
| 02:43:50,970 | 02:43:53,269 | 為了要讓書記官工作 |
| 02:43:53,890 | 02:43:54,689 | 這個 |
| 02:43:54,689 | 02:43:55,390 | 能夠 |
| 02:43:55,390 | 02:43:56,090 | 緩解 |
| 02:43:56,090 | 02:43:56,789 | 我們的 |
| 02:43:58,380 | 02:43:58,880 | 這個 |
| 02:43:58,880 | 02:43:59,980 | call center |
| 02:43:59,980 | 02:44:01,380 | 我們的電話中心 |
| 02:44:01,380 | 02:44:02,980 | 如果這一邊 |
| 02:44:02,980 | 02:44:04,179 | 真的要 |
| 02:44:04,179 | 02:44:06,580 | 三列到5000萬的話 |
| 02:44:06,580 | 02:44:08,880 | 我們可能沒有辦法做 |
| 02:44:08,880 | 02:44:09,679 | 很多事情 |
| 02:44:09,679 | 02:44:11,080 | 而且這邊 |
| 02:44:11,080 | 02:44:11,679 | 是 |
| 02:44:11,679 | 02:44:13,080 | 也要因應 |
| 02:44:13,080 | 02:44:14,679 | 各法院的油資 |
| 02:44:14,679 | 02:44:17,779 | 那油資我相信各位委員都可以瞭解 |
| 02:44:17,779 | 02:44:19,179 | 案件一多 |
| 02:44:19,179 | 02:44:21,080 | 那個油資費用是很可怕的 |
| 02:44:21,080 | 02:44:22,080 | 一個扎機案件 |
| 02:44:22,080 | 02:44:24,179 | 被害人100位的時候 |
| 02:44:24,179 | 02:44:25,779 | 那個油資是不夠的 |
| 02:44:25,779 | 02:44:27,380 | 常常是需要我們 |
| 02:44:27,380 | 02:44:29,279 | 司法院去因應 |
| 02:44:29,279 | 02:44:32,080 | 那如果三到五千萬我們真的 |
| 02:44:32,080 | 02:44:33,880 | 可能各法院在辦 |
| 02:44:33,880 | 02:44:36,580 | 扎機案件真的無法送達 |
| 02:44:36,580 | 02:44:37,480 | 所以 |
| 02:44:37,480 | 02:44:40,179 | 請委員能夠諒解 |
| 02:44:40,179 | 02:44:44,179 | 也拜託委員這邊真的最多只能撿列一千萬 |
| 02:44:44,179 | 02:44:47,080 | 讓我們和睦之行調整 |
| 02:44:47,080 | 02:44:48,080 | 那個 |
| 02:44:48,080 | 02:44:50,380 | 莊書長你稍微等一下 |
| 02:44:50,380 | 02:44:51,480 | 那個邱委員 |
| 02:44:51,480 | 02:44:53,580 | 現在高秘書長已經多次 |
| 02:44:54,130 | 02:44:55,330 | 懇切的說出他 |
| 02:44:55,920 | 02:44:57,520 | 現在已經過了三分之二時間 |
| 02:44:57,520 | 02:44:58,320 | 還是要三分之一 |
| 02:44:58,320 | 02:44:59,020 | 理解 |
| 02:44:59,020 | 02:45:00,120 | 能不能從 |
| 02:45:00,120 | 02:45:01,020 | 因為你這裡有兩個 |
| 02:45:01,020 | 02:45:02,320 | 一個撿列有五千萬 |
| 02:45:02,320 | 02:45:04,020 | 一個是撿列三百萬 |
| 02:45:04,020 | 02:45:05,620 | 本身這個數字就不太一樣 |
| 02:45:05,620 | 02:45:06,920 | 能不能折衷 |
| 02:45:06,920 | 02:45:08,920 | 就是我們這次就撿列一千萬 |
| 02:45:08,920 | 02:45:10,720 | 讓司法院也能夠 |
| 02:45:10,720 | 02:45:13,120 | 再撿列一千萬繼續執行他的任務 |
| 02:45:13,120 | 02:45:14,920 | 我們這兩個案子 |
| 02:45:14,920 | 02:45:17,320 | 我們目前的態度還是保留 |
| 02:45:17,320 | 02:45:18,920 | 對那也許兩個 |
| 02:45:18,920 | 02:45:20,820 | 兩天的工作天可以讓他們努力 |
| 02:45:20,820 | 02:45:22,220 | 但是目前還是 |
| 02:45:22,220 | 02:45:23,620 | 傾向保留謝謝 |
| 02:45:24,620 | 02:45:25,620 | 請莊書長 |
| 02:45:28,290 | 02:45:30,090 | 說服一下台灣民眾黨 |
| 02:45:30,090 | 02:45:31,190 | 站在民眾的立場 |
| 02:45:31,190 | 02:45:32,890 | 來說服台灣民眾黨 |
| 02:45:32,890 | 02:45:33,690 | 就是說 |
| 02:45:33,690 | 02:45:35,190 | 他這個call center這個 |
| 02:45:36,300 | 02:45:38,099 | 我們司法法制委員會 |
| 02:45:38,099 | 02:45:39,800 | 大家來接水 |
| 02:45:39,800 | 02:45:42,099 | 都說民眾到了法院去 |
| 02:45:42,099 | 02:45:44,000 | 有時候不知道該怎麼辦 |
| 02:45:44,000 | 02:45:47,199 | 我們就需要要求司法院 |
| 02:45:47,199 | 02:45:49,900 | 各法院裡面你要來協助民眾 |
| 02:45:49,900 | 02:45:51,400 | 那就是ban預算 |
| 02:45:51,400 | 02:45:52,300 | 譬如說 |
| 02:45:52,300 | 02:45:53,400 | 在call center的部分 |
| 02:45:53,400 | 02:45:55,300 | 你就說 |
| 02:45:55,300 | 02:45:57,099 | 你說我打另外一個案子裡面打電話去 |
| 02:45:57,099 | 02:45:58,300 | 都是書記官 |
| 02:45:58,300 | 02:45:59,599 | 書記官也沒空 |
| 02:45:59,599 | 02:46:00,800 | 又找不到人 |
| 02:46:00,800 | 02:46:02,599 | 然後就弄一個叫call center |
| 02:46:02,600 | 02:46:04,400 | 我專人來幫你 |
| 02:46:04,400 | 02:46:05,900 | 幫你解決民眾的問題 |
| 02:46:06,780 | 02:46:08,680 | 對我們現在又把他刪掉 |
| 02:46:08,680 | 02:46:09,480 | 不要啦不要啦 |
| 02:46:09,480 | 02:46:11,080 | 那個座位 |
| 02:46:11,080 | 02:46:13,980 | 這個把司法站在民眾的立場 |
| 02:46:13,980 | 02:46:15,480 | 這就不是司法要開的 |
| 02:46:15,480 | 02:46:16,480 | 這就要開在民眾 |
| 02:46:16,480 | 02:46:17,280 | 旁邊跟你搖耳朵 |
| 02:46:17,280 | 02:46:18,680 | 你先不要聽你看我眼睛 |
| 02:46:20,210 | 02:46:22,109 | 你好不容易 |
| 02:46:22,109 | 02:46:24,109 | 今天有當家做主的機會 |
| 02:46:24,109 | 02:46:25,410 | 旁邊都沒有人 |
| 02:46:25,410 | 02:46:27,210 | 你就大大方方說 |
| 02:46:27,210 | 02:46:28,910 | 我基於我的理念 |
| 02:46:28,910 | 02:46:29,710 | 認知 |
| 02:46:29,710 | 02:46:30,910 | 這的確是不能這樣刪 |
| 02:46:30,910 | 02:46:32,009 | 我就同意刪一千萬 |
| 02:46:32,009 | 02:46:33,109 | 我們都幫你打不完 |
| 02:46:33,109 | 02:46:34,509 | 我就大大方方 |
| 02:46:34,509 | 02:46:35,810 | 基於我的理念 |
| 02:46:35,810 | 02:46:37,109 | 最後主張保留 |
| 02:46:37,109 | 02:46:37,710 | 謝謝 |
| 02:46:38,890 | 02:46:39,790 | 好我們保 |
| 02:46:39,790 | 02:46:41,490 | 高民長我們沒關係 |
| 02:46:41,490 | 02:46:42,690 | 未來還有兩天時間 |
| 02:46:42,690 | 02:46:43,890 | 您盡量來溝通 |
| 02:46:43,890 | 02:46:44,690 | 沒有問題的好不好 |
| 02:46:44,690 | 02:46:45,190 | 好 |
| 02:46:45,890 | 02:46:47,789 | 我希望你旁邊有隱形的翅膀 |
| 02:46:47,789 | 02:46:48,490 | 你放心 |
| 02:46:48,490 | 02:46:48,890 | OK |
| 02:46:48,890 | 02:46:49,289 | 好 |
| 02:46:49,289 | 02:46:52,189 | 我們68案629案737案737案737案 |
| 02:46:52,189 | 02:46:53,490 | 我們就列入通3 |
| 02:46:53,490 | 02:46:54,689 | 73案 |
| 02:46:54,689 | 02:46:55,189 | 簡列 |
| 02:46:55,189 | 02:46:55,789 | 73 |
| 02:46:55,789 | 02:46:56,490 | 74 |
| 02:46:56,490 | 02:46:57,890 | 75 |
| 02:46:57,890 | 02:46:58,990 | 又是3個 |
| 02:46:58,990 | 02:46:59,890 | 一個 |
| 02:46:59,890 | 02:47:00,490 | 同案 |
| 02:47:00,490 | 02:47:01,390 | 一個簡列 |
| 02:47:01,390 | 02:47:02,289 | 7千萬 |
| 02:47:02,289 | 02:47:02,890 | 一個簡列 |
| 02:47:02,890 | 02:47:04,689 | 7091萬 |
| 02:47:04,689 | 02:47:05,490 | 一個簡列 |
| 02:47:05,490 | 02:47:06,689 | 凍結500萬 |
| 02:47:06,689 | 02:47:08,189 | 他三個數字都不一樣 |
| 02:47:08,189 | 02:47:10,189 | 高民長請表達一下 |
| 02:47:10,189 | 02:47:10,789 | 這一筆 |
| 02:47:10,789 | 02:47:12,090 | 上次也跟委員報告 |
| 02:47:12,090 | 02:47:13,689 | 這是跟電腦資訊 |
| 02:47:13,690 | 02:47:16,990 | 我們現在要換108年的電腦 |
| 02:47:16,990 | 02:47:18,390 | 就需要1億多了 |
| 02:47:19,200 | 02:47:20,600 | 這個7千萬刪掉 |
| 02:47:20,600 | 02:47:21,700 | 我們大概就不要換 |
| 02:47:22,780 | 02:47:24,280 | 好然後另外 |
| 02:47:24,280 | 02:47:25,080 | 也是跟 |
| 02:47:25,080 | 02:47:25,680 | 書記官 |
| 02:47:26,920 | 02:47:28,120 | 這個工作有關 |
| 02:47:28,670 | 02:47:31,170 | 我們的書記官最害怕的 |
| 02:47:31,170 | 02:47:33,770 | 就是在法庭上記筆錄 |
| 02:47:33,770 | 02:47:36,270 | 我們必須要用語音辨識 |
| 02:47:36,270 | 02:47:39,270 | 才有辦法舒緩書記官的工作 |
| 02:47:39,270 | 02:47:40,869 | 這7千萬一刪 |
| 02:47:40,869 | 02:47:42,070 | 跟委員報告 |
| 02:47:42,070 | 02:47:44,369 | 幾乎是把我們明年的預算也刪到 |
| 02:47:47,320 | 02:47:49,920 | 今天跟院長說的一樣 |
| 02:47:49,920 | 02:47:51,119 | 已經過了三個月 |
| 02:47:51,870 | 02:47:53,670 | 電腦也換一半 |
| 02:47:53,670 | 02:47:54,770 | 錢也花一半 |
| 02:47:55,690 | 02:47:56,790 | 那個 |
| 02:47:56,790 | 02:47:57,990 | 語音辨識 |
| 02:47:57,990 | 02:47:59,290 | 我們現在很努力 |
| 02:48:00,040 | 02:48:00,640 | 希望去 |
| 02:48:00,640 | 02:48:02,040 | 如果這個再刪 |
| 02:48:02,040 | 02:48:03,540 | 我們大概就沒辦法做了 |
| 02:48:04,620 | 02:48:06,820 | 書記官的那個法庭 |
| 02:48:08,350 | 02:48:10,450 | 一定沒辦法舒緩 |
| 02:48:10,450 | 02:48:12,250 | 這個是 |
| 02:48:12,250 | 02:48:13,550 | 真要跟委員報告 |
| 02:48:13,550 | 02:48:14,550 | 3 7千萬 |
| 02:48:15,280 | 02:48:16,280 | 真的是一個 |
| 02:48:17,910 | 02:48:19,810 | 危及到事外院的存在 |
| 02:48:21,270 | 02:48:21,970 | 因為書記官 |
| 02:48:21,970 | 02:48:23,470 | 真的我們已經 |
| 02:48:23,470 | 02:48:24,970 | 書記官都不報到了 |
| 02:48:25,640 | 02:48:26,840 | 怎麼辦呢 |
| 02:48:26,840 | 02:48:28,140 | 真的是要拜託委員 |
| 02:48:33,830 | 02:48:35,030 | 邱委員請表達一下 |
| 02:48:46,990 | 02:48:48,590 | 謝謝 |
| 02:48:58,450 | 02:49:01,450 | 你應該有那個機會去法院 |
| 02:49:01,450 | 02:49:02,650 | 你看 |
| 02:49:03,490 | 02:49:04,590 | 我們講話 |
| 02:49:04,590 | 02:49:06,289 | 或者律師講話 |
| 02:49:06,289 | 02:49:07,289 | 書記官 |
| 02:49:07,289 | 02:49:08,990 | 只要打速度龍比 |
| 02:49:08,990 | 02:49:10,390 | 我們就在想 |
| 02:49:10,390 | 02:49:10,990 | 有夠慢的 |
| 02:49:10,990 | 02:49:11,390 | 不趕緊 |
| 02:49:11,390 | 02:49:11,890 | 我早上有的 |
| 02:49:11,890 | 02:49:12,990 | 我就說完了 |
| 02:49:12,990 | 02:49:13,689 | 然後 |
| 02:49:13,689 | 02:49:15,490 | 打出來的比例裡面 |
| 02:49:15,490 | 02:49:17,289 | 幾乎沒有辦法百分之百 |
| 02:49:17,820 | 02:49:19,220 | 現在這套系統 |
| 02:49:20,980 | 02:49:22,279 | 我們在批評法院 |
| 02:49:22,279 | 02:49:24,779 | 讓書記官比較好心 |
| 02:49:24,779 | 02:49:26,180 | 讓他比較輕鬆一點 |
| 02:49:26,180 | 02:49:27,380 | 你什麼在基於理念 |
| 02:49:27,380 | 02:49:28,680 | 基於理念來改革 |
| 02:49:28,680 | 02:49:29,279 | 怎麼對 |
| 02:49:29,279 | 02:49:29,880 | 你看 |
| 02:49:29,880 | 02:49:30,880 | 只要司法院的 |
| 02:49:30,880 | 02:49:32,080 | 幾乎都是你們台灣民眾黨 |
| 02:49:32,080 | 02:49:33,680 | 我知道你們為什麼會這樣 |
| 02:49:33,680 | 02:49:35,779 | 但是那真的是 |
| 02:49:35,779 | 02:49:38,080 | 你們老大跟司法院就沒有關係 |
| 02:49:38,080 | 02:49:39,680 | 國民黨去給你們檢紀 |
| 02:49:39,680 | 02:49:40,779 | 不得不去偵辦 |
| 02:49:40,779 | 02:49:42,480 | 你現在都堪於司法院來 |
| 02:49:42,480 | 02:49:43,180 | 我是覺得這個 |
| 02:49:43,180 | 02:49:44,480 | 書記官的部分 |
| 02:49:44,480 | 02:49:45,279 | 不要 |
| 02:49:45,279 | 02:49:45,880 | 真的 |
| 02:49:45,880 | 02:49:46,279 | 沒關係 |
| 02:49:46,279 | 02:49:46,680 | 還有一個 |
| 02:49:46,680 | 02:49:48,080 | 還有一個就是說 |
| 02:49:48,180 | 02:49:50,580 | 你7375 |
| 02:49:50,580 | 02:49:52,880 | 你這個第三案75是凍結 |
| 02:49:52,880 | 02:49:53,780 | 500萬元 |
| 02:49:54,670 | 02:49:58,170 | 那73是凍結7091萬 |
| 02:49:58,170 | 02:50:00,770 | 你73是凍結7000萬元 |
| 02:50:00,770 | 02:50:02,470 | 我們是不是可以一個折中 |
| 02:50:02,470 | 02:50:03,369 | 就是 |
| 02:50:03,369 | 02:50:04,369 | 檢列 |
| 02:50:04,369 | 02:50:05,369 | 更正 |
| 02:50:05,369 | 02:50:06,470 | 73是 |
| 02:50:06,470 | 02:50:07,869 | 檢列 |
| 02:50:07,869 | 02:50:09,470 | 檢列7000萬元 |
| 02:50:09,470 | 02:50:11,770 | 凍結20% |
| 02:50:11,770 | 02:50:13,869 | 這個數字是最大的 |
| 02:50:13,869 | 02:50:14,570 | 你要不要考量 |
| 02:50:14,570 | 02:50:15,470 | 照75案 |
| 02:50:15,470 | 02:50:17,869 | 凍結500萬元改書面報告 |
| 02:50:17,869 | 02:50:19,670 | 這樣我們就今天達成共識了 |
| 02:50:20,260 | 02:50:22,860 | 那我現在司法院也喘一口氣 |
| 02:50:22,860 | 02:50:23,460 | 而且 |
| 02:50:23,460 | 02:50:24,760 | 而且你的 |
| 02:50:24,760 | 02:50:26,060 | 菩薩心腸也 |
| 02:50:26,060 | 02:50:27,360 | 江湖會傳播的 |
| 02:50:29,890 | 02:50:30,890 | 而且這個上次 |
| 02:50:30,890 | 02:50:32,289 | 其實已經說明得很清楚 |
| 02:50:32,289 | 02:50:34,289 | 是電腦的系統 |
| 02:50:34,289 | 02:50:35,990 | 那今天既然就是那個 |
| 02:50:35,990 | 02:50:37,090 | 能在這裡做主 |
| 02:50:37,090 | 02:50:38,689 | 我想這兩天他們講的內容 |
| 02:50:38,689 | 02:50:39,689 | 都一樣不會改 |
| 02:50:39,689 | 02:50:40,289 | 因為有沒有被授權 |
| 02:50:40,289 | 02:50:41,189 | 就在這裡 |
| 02:50:41,189 | 02:50:41,789 | 有沒有被授權 |
| 02:50:41,789 | 02:50:42,990 | 就凍結500萬 |
| 02:50:43,710 | 02:50:46,810 | 謝謝院長有看到我的菩薩心腸 |
| 02:50:46,810 | 02:50:49,009 | 但是我們還是要基於我們的職責 |
| 02:50:49,009 | 02:50:50,609 | 來做一些把關 |
| 02:50:50,609 | 02:50:52,609 | 那我們就是基本上 |
| 02:50:52,609 | 02:50:54,410 | 對真的就是那兩個 |
| 02:50:54,410 | 02:50:55,810 | 關鍵字保留 |
| 02:50:55,810 | 02:50:56,810 | 那我想沒關係 |
| 02:50:56,810 | 02:50:58,410 | 還有兩天的急救時間 |
| 02:50:58,410 | 02:50:59,910 | 還可以起始回生 |
| 02:50:59,910 | 02:51:02,609 | 那我們也歡迎開大門走大路 |
| 02:51:02,609 | 02:51:03,810 | 接受溝通 |
| 02:51:03,810 | 02:51:05,210 | 以上說明謝謝 |
| 02:51:05,210 | 02:51:07,109 | 你們溝通的條件是什麼 |
| 02:51:07,109 | 02:51:09,210 | 因為現在都已經講得很清楚了 |
| 02:51:09,210 | 02:51:11,009 | 就是他們真的有這個需求 |
| 02:51:11,009 | 02:51:12,410 | 現在不就是開大門 |
| 02:51:12,510 | 02:51:13,510 | 沒有關係 |
| 02:51:13,510 | 02:51:15,510 | 未來兩天我們就這個案子 |
| 02:51:15,510 | 02:51:17,510 | 73、74、75持續溝通 |
| 02:51:17,510 | 02:51:18,510 | 跟前面的案子好嗎 |
| 02:51:18,510 | 02:51:20,710 | 那我們也希望一切能夠順利 |
| 02:51:20,710 | 02:51:22,210 | 也祝福司法院 |
| 02:51:22,210 | 02:51:26,210 | 我們79案已經科目自行調整 |
| 02:51:26,210 | 02:51:27,710 | 已經達成共識了 |
| 02:51:27,710 | 02:51:30,510 | 那80案也達成共識了 |
| 02:51:30,510 | 02:51:35,510 | 就是凍結245萬8千元 |
| 02:51:35,510 | 02:51:37,310 | 然後改書面報告 |
| 02:51:37,310 | 02:51:38,310 | 這個沒有問題 |
| 02:51:39,050 | 02:51:40,949 | 等一下我不是改書面報告誰說的 |
| 02:51:42,010 | 02:51:43,510 | 你在現場你可以更正 |
| 02:51:43,510 | 02:51:45,210 | 是是是我沒有要改書面報告 |
| 02:51:45,210 | 02:51:47,810 | 我還是一樣付我的解凍條件 |
| 02:51:47,810 | 02:51:48,610 | 一模一樣的 |
| 02:51:48,610 | 02:51:50,110 | 要不然我跟著我這個案測回 |
| 02:51:50,110 | 02:51:52,110 | 我還是要保留70% |
| 02:51:52,110 | 02:51:53,510 | 現在就是我唸的 |
| 02:51:53,510 | 02:51:56,110 | 凍結245萬8千元 |
| 02:51:56,110 | 02:51:57,010 | 這個沒錯吧 |
| 02:51:57,010 | 02:51:58,410 | 我是凍結50% |
| 02:51:58,410 | 02:51:59,610 | 是248嗎 |
| 02:51:59,610 | 02:52:01,210 | 245萬8千 |
| 02:52:03,040 | 02:52:05,040 | 然後因為我有付條件的 |
| 02:52:05,740 | 02:52:06,240 | 好 |
| 02:52:06,540 | 02:52:07,540 | 那就保留囉 |
| 02:52:07,540 | 02:52:10,540 | 就是凍結200 |
| 02:52:10,540 | 02:52:13,540 | 就我們同意就是剛跟委員溝通過 |
| 02:52:13,540 | 02:52:16,540 | 就是有付後面那個條件的 |
| 02:52:16,540 | 02:52:19,540 | 等大法官補足10人以上審議人士 |
| 02:52:19,540 | 02:52:20,540 | 使得凍之 |
| 02:52:20,540 | 02:52:21,040 | 對 |
| 02:52:21,040 | 02:52:22,040 | 那您這個也接受了 |
| 02:52:22,040 | 02:52:23,040 | 是我們接受 |
| 02:52:23,040 | 02:52:26,040 | 好那我們就凍結240萬8千元 |
| 02:52:26,040 | 02:52:28,040 | 等大法官報到實名之後 |
| 02:52:28,040 | 02:52:29,040 | 使得凍之 |
| 02:52:29,040 | 02:52:31,540 | 85萬凍結30% |
| 02:52:33,270 | 02:52:36,270 | 麻煩請高院長表達意見 |
| 02:52:36,270 | 02:52:40,270 | 那個1月85可不可以 |
| 02:52:41,450 | 02:52:43,450 | 剪少凍結一點 |
| 02:52:43,450 | 02:52:44,450 | 因為那個 |
| 02:52:44,810 | 02:52:45,810 | 真的每一筆錢都要 |
| 02:52:45,810 | 02:52:48,310 | 當然想講30沒什麼關係 |
| 02:52:48,310 | 02:52:51,310 | 可是還是希望可不可以少一點兵分 |
| 02:52:51,310 | 02:52:52,810 | 凍結10% |
| 02:52:52,810 | 02:52:53,310 | 好 |
| 02:52:53,310 | 02:52:54,810 | 不然我可以這樣 |
| 02:52:54,810 | 02:52:55,810 | 不然 |
| 02:52:55,810 | 02:52:56,310 | 好的好的 |
| 02:52:56,310 | 02:52:57,810 | 沒關係你講出你能接受的 |
| 02:52:57,810 | 02:52:59,810 | 我們再請教提案的黨團 |
| 02:52:59,810 | 02:53:00,810 | 請國民黨團表達意見 |
| 02:53:02,540 | 02:53:03,540 | 就凍結10% |
| 02:53:07,370 | 02:53:07,870 | 保留吧 |
| 02:53:10,610 | 02:53:12,610 | 那我們就同意凍結30% |
| 02:53:13,360 | 02:53:14,860 | 拿家宿命 |
| 02:53:15,540 | 02:53:18,040 | 好我們85萬凍結30% |
| 02:53:18,040 | 02:53:20,540 | 86萬也是凍結30% |
| 02:53:22,460 | 02:53:26,460 | 87凍結574萬 |
| 02:53:27,970 | 02:53:29,470 | 8687是病案 |
| 02:53:29,470 | 02:53:30,470 | 他這個兩個數字都 |
| 02:53:30,470 | 02:53:32,470 | 是改數位 |
| 02:53:32,470 | 02:53:33,470 | 還有沒有同意 |
| 02:53:33,470 | 02:53:36,470 | 那請高秘書長 |
| 02:53:36,470 | 02:53:37,970 | 那個邱委員 |
| 02:53:37,970 | 02:53:39,970 | 現在8687你們貴黨所提的 |
| 02:53:39,970 | 02:53:41,470 | 黨團跟委員所提的 |
| 02:53:41,470 | 02:53:42,470 | 都不一樣數字 |
| 02:53:42,470 | 02:53:44,470 | 你有沒有要補充的 |
| 02:53:46,380 | 02:53:48,380 | 我們這邊主張 |
| 02:53:49,810 | 02:53:56,310 | 8686是目前我們凍是凍30%嗎 |
| 02:53:56,310 | 02:53:56,810 | 對 |
| 02:53:56,810 | 02:53:58,810 | 那這個 |
| 02:53:58,810 | 02:54:00,310 | 凍結574萬 |
| 02:54:00,310 | 02:54:00,810 | 對 |
| 02:54:00,810 | 02:54:04,810 | 那我們目前就是兩案還是都保留 |
| 02:54:07,120 | 02:54:08,120 | 不是一個30 |
| 02:54:08,120 | 02:54:10,120 | 就因為兩案是一樣 |
| 02:54:10,120 | 02:54:13,120 | 是不是可以合併凍一樣的數字 |
| 02:54:14,940 | 02:54:16,940 | 因為我們提案的委員 |
| 02:54:16,940 | 02:54:18,940 | 我們是堅持的 |
| 02:54:18,940 | 02:54:20,940 | 我們就目前先這樣 |
| 02:54:22,530 | 02:54:24,530 | 就是維持原來的數字 |
| 02:54:24,530 | 02:54:26,530 | 一個是凍結30% |
| 02:54:26,530 | 02:54:27,530 | 一個是凍結574 |
| 02:54:27,530 | 02:54:28,530 | 我們就8687 |
| 02:54:28,530 | 02:54:30,530 | 我們先把它保留起來 |
| 02:54:30,530 | 02:54:31,530 | 反正 |
| 02:54:31,530 | 02:54:32,530 | 伸頭一刀縮頭一刀 |
| 02:54:32,530 | 02:54:34,530 | 你剛剛上一個人都同意凍結30% |
| 02:54:34,530 | 02:54:35,530 | 我們就先保留起來 |
| 02:54:35,530 | 02:54:37,530 | 我們到時候再溝通好不好 |
| 02:54:37,530 | 02:54:38,030 | 謝謝 |
| 02:54:38,030 | 02:54:39,530 | 我們90案 |
| 02:54:39,530 | 02:54:42,530 | 這個就是法律輔助基金會的這個 |
| 02:54:42,530 | 02:54:45,530 | 台灣民眾黨提的凍結20% |
| 02:54:45,530 | 02:54:48,530 | 91 92 93 94 |
| 02:54:48,530 | 02:54:49,530 | 全部都一起的 |
| 02:54:49,530 | 02:54:51,530 | 國民黨團提的簡略2億 |
| 02:54:51,530 | 02:54:53,530 | 台灣民眾黨團 |
| 02:54:53,970 | 02:54:55,970 | 提的還都不一樣數字都不一樣 |
| 02:54:55,970 | 02:54:56,970 | 那 |
| 02:54:57,700 | 02:54:59,700 | 還是請高命讓表達對 |
| 02:55:00,090 | 02:55:02,090 | 台灣法人法律輔助基金會的態度 |
| 02:55:02,090 | 02:55:03,090 | 好 |
| 02:55:03,090 | 02:55:04,090 | 那可不可以請那個 |
| 02:55:04,090 | 02:55:06,090 | 法輔的 |
| 02:55:06,090 | 02:55:08,090 | 那院長這邊我們針對 |
| 02:55:08,090 | 02:55:10,090 | 90 91 92 |
| 02:55:10,090 | 02:55:12,090 | 跟94不知道民眾黨這邊 |
| 02:55:12,090 | 02:55:14,090 | 我們上次有討論過是不是可以凍結2000萬元 |
| 02:55:15,770 | 02:55:17,770 | 可以沒問題 |
| 02:55:17,770 | 02:55:19,770 | 終於有了一個 |
| 02:55:19,770 | 02:55:21,770 | 平殺心腸的表現 |
| 02:55:21,770 | 02:55:22,770 | 謝謝院長 |
| 02:55:22,770 | 02:55:24,770 | 可以就同意邱委員所提的就凍結2000萬元 |
| 02:55:24,770 | 02:55:27,770 | 我剛剛是在後續兩個禮拜密集 |
| 02:55:27,770 | 02:55:29,770 | 跟你們會跟你們談 |
| 02:55:29,770 | 02:55:31,770 | 而且是針對說現在已經過三分之二的預算 |
| 02:55:31,770 | 02:55:33,770 | 所以我們提出來列檢5000萬 |
| 02:55:33,770 | 02:55:35,770 | 凍結5000萬 |
| 02:55:36,510 | 02:55:38,510 | 然後得與雲之 |
| 02:55:38,510 | 02:55:40,510 | 你們同意嗎 |
| 02:55:40,510 | 02:55:42,510 | 委員辦公室這邊跟委員報告 |
| 02:55:42,510 | 02:55:44,510 | 這個部分5000萬真的太多 |
| 02:55:44,510 | 02:55:46,510 | 尤其是議案這邊是希望法輔 |
| 02:55:46,510 | 02:55:48,510 | 加強被害人保護 |
| 02:55:48,510 | 02:55:50,510 | 所以我們如果通過相關內規的修正 |
| 02:55:50,510 | 02:55:52,510 | 今年提供被害人加強的保護的話 |
| 02:55:52,510 | 02:55:54,510 | 也是需要預算 |
| 02:55:54,510 | 02:55:56,510 | 所以我們這邊也有去做估算不知道委員這邊 |
| 02:55:56,510 | 02:55:58,510 | 辦公室能不能同意就是 |
| 02:55:58,480 | 02:56:00,480 | 簡略這個部分是1000萬 |
| 02:56:00,480 | 02:56:02,480 | 但是凍結5000萬 |
| 02:56:03,210 | 02:56:05,210 | 好我們91案 |
| 02:56:05,210 | 02:56:07,210 | 92案94案沒有辦法達成共識 |
| 02:56:07,210 | 02:56:09,210 | 所以我們就 |
| 02:56:09,210 | 02:56:11,210 | 先保留了 |
| 02:56:11,210 | 02:56:13,210 | 還有93 |
| 02:56:12,470 | 02:56:14,470 | 只有93案沒有辦法達成共識保留 |
| 02:56:14,470 | 02:56:16,470 | 跟主席報告 |
| 02:56:16,470 | 02:56:18,470 | 93案保留 |
| 02:56:18,470 | 02:56:20,470 | 991、992、994凍結2000萬元 |
| 02:56:22,110 | 02:56:24,110 | 好93案保留 |
| 02:56:25,520 | 02:56:27,520 | 我們95案通3 |
| 02:56:27,520 | 02:56:29,520 | 謝謝 |
| 02:56:32,030 | 02:56:34,030 | 好 |
| 02:56:35,470 | 02:56:37,470 | 我們進入考選部 |
| 02:56:42,930 | 02:56:44,930 | 黃次長 |
| 02:56:46,190 | 02:56:48,190 | 請坐 |
| 02:57:00,360 | 02:57:02,360 | 黃次長您坐定我們就開始好嗎 |
| 02:57:03,250 | 02:57:05,250 | 黃次長請坐 |
| 02:57:12,110 | 02:57:14,110 | 好謝謝黃次長 |
| 02:57:14,110 | 02:57:18,110 | 我們104案通3、110案通3、114案通3 |
| 02:57:19,970 | 02:57:21,970 | 好 |
| 02:57:22,400 | 02:57:24,400 | 好謝謝黃次長 |
| 02:57:24,400 | 02:57:26,400 | 我們進入監察院 |
| 02:57:28,970 | 02:57:30,970 | 監察院 |
| 02:57:30,720 | 02:57:32,720 | 好黃秘書長請坐請坐辛苦辛苦 |
| 02:57:33,420 | 02:57:35,420 | 我們116案 |
| 02:57:37,620 | 02:57:39,620 | 117案 |
| 02:57:39,460 | 02:57:41,460 | 118案 |
| 02:57:42,230 | 02:57:44,230 | 116案簡列3億元 |
| 02:57:44,230 | 02:57:46,230 | 117案全數簡列 |
| 02:57:46,230 | 02:57:48,230 | 118案全數簡列 |
| 02:57:48,230 | 02:57:50,230 | 黃秘書長 |
| 02:57:50,230 | 02:57:52,230 | 根據您剛剛一個黨團溝通 |
| 02:57:52,230 | 02:57:54,230 | 你有什麼要表達 |
| 02:57:54,110 | 02:57:56,110 | 謝謝院長以及各位黨團委員 |
| 02:57:56,110 | 02:58:00,110 | 這次已經是我們監察院第三輪的協商 |
| 02:58:00,110 | 02:58:04,110 | 仍然有33案要處理 |
| 02:58:04,110 | 02:58:06,110 | 那提案刪減總數 |
| 02:58:06,110 | 02:58:08,110 | 計達本院不含人事費以外預算 |
| 02:58:08,110 | 02:58:10,110 | 有四倍之多 |
| 02:58:10,110 | 02:58:12,110 | 而且案跟案之間都有牽連 |
| 02:58:12,110 | 02:58:14,110 | 真的很難討論 |
| 02:58:14,110 | 02:58:18,110 | 所以上次在林佩祥委員 |
| 02:58:18,110 | 02:58:20,110 | 在第二輪協商的時候 |
| 02:58:20,110 | 02:58:22,110 | 有說明說國民黨部分 |
| 02:58:22,110 | 02:58:24,110 | 已經跟有提案的委員溝通 |
| 02:58:27,560 | 02:58:29,560 | 可以整病成為一案 |
| 02:58:29,560 | 02:58:31,560 | 病案在117案 |
| 02:58:33,210 | 02:58:35,210 | 所以在這邊原建議 |
| 02:58:35,210 | 02:58:37,210 | 能夠116案 |
| 02:58:37,210 | 02:58:39,210 | 117案 |
| 02:58:39,210 | 02:58:41,210 | 127案 |
| 02:58:41,210 | 02:58:43,210 | 128案 |
| 02:58:43,210 | 02:58:45,210 | 130案 |
| 02:58:45,210 | 02:58:47,210 | 132案 |
| 02:58:47,210 | 02:58:49,210 | 135案 |
| 02:58:49,210 | 02:58:51,210 | 137案 |
| 02:58:51,210 | 02:58:53,210 | 138案 |
| 02:58:53,210 | 02:58:55,210 | 139案 |
| 02:58:55,210 | 02:58:57,210 | 140案 |
| 02:58:57,210 | 02:58:59,210 | 以及141案 |
| 02:58:59,210 | 02:59:01,210 | 總計12案 |
| 02:59:01,210 | 02:59:07,210 | 那而且本院會繼續跟國民黨黨團來說明 |
| 02:59:07,300 | 02:59:09,300 | 至於民眾黨團跟委員提案的部分 |
| 02:59:09,300 | 02:59:11,300 | 也在相同的理由之下 |
| 02:59:11,300 | 02:59:13,300 | 建議18案 |
| 02:59:13,300 | 02:59:15,300 | 122案 |
| 02:59:15,010 | 02:59:17,010 | 123案 |
| 02:59:17,010 | 02:59:19,010 | 125案 |
| 02:59:19,010 | 02:59:21,010 | 126案 |
| 02:59:21,010 | 02:59:23,010 | 129案 |
| 02:59:23,010 | 02:59:25,010 | 131案 |
| 02:59:25,010 | 02:59:27,010 | 136案 |
| 02:59:27,010 | 02:59:29,010 | 148案 |
| 02:59:29,010 | 02:59:31,010 | 即9案 |
| 02:59:31,010 | 02:59:33,010 | 能夠也整病為一案或兩案來協商 |
| 02:59:33,010 | 02:59:35,010 | 那當然我們也這一次 |
| 02:59:35,010 | 02:59:37,010 | 這段時間我們也跟民眾黨團團總召 |
| 02:59:37,010 | 02:59:39,010 | 有數次協商 |
| 02:59:39,010 | 02:59:41,010 | 說明許多監察院同仁關於人身環境資訊 |
| 02:59:41,010 | 02:59:43,010 | 消防安全的需求以及 |
| 02:59:43,010 | 02:59:45,010 | 政治獻金專戶的同意及審查 |
| 02:59:45,010 | 02:59:47,010 | 另外呢以國家為名義 |
| 02:59:47,010 | 02:59:49,010 | 去參與的相關國際組織 |
| 02:59:49,010 | 02:59:51,010 | 在下半年我們所需要的經費 |
| 02:59:51,010 | 02:59:53,010 | 當然也 |
| 02:59:53,010 | 02:59:55,010 | 要請這個大院能夠來支持 |
| 02:59:55,010 | 02:59:57,010 | 那跟民眾黨團已經朝向建立最後共識的方向邁進 |
| 02:59:57,010 | 02:59:59,010 | 那期待未來也持續跟能夠跟國民黨團來說明 |
| 02:59:59,010 | 03:00:01,010 | 之後來建立共識以上 |
| 03:00:01,010 | 03:00:03,010 | 辛苦黃民主黨 |
| 03:00:03,010 | 03:00:05,010 | 那國民黨團針對黃民主黨所提的九案 |
| 03:00:05,010 | 03:00:07,010 | 病一案來共同討論 |
| 03:00:07,010 | 03:00:09,010 | 可以請教 |
| 03:00:09,010 | 03:00:11,010 | 那請問 |
| 03:00:11,010 | 03:00:13,010 | 黃民主黨團針對黃民主黨所提的九案病一案來共同討論 |
| 03:00:13,010 | 03:00:15,010 | 可以接受還是不可以接受 |
| 03:00:15,010 | 03:00:17,010 | 可以接受 |
| 03:00:17,010 | 03:00:19,010 | 那台灣民眾黨團邱委員 |
| 03:00:19,010 | 03:00:21,010 | 是謝謝主席 |
| 03:00:21,010 | 03:00:23,010 | 我們確實真的如這個秘書長所言 |
| 03:00:23,010 | 03:00:25,010 | 我們是往那個 |
| 03:00:25,010 | 03:00:27,010 | 邁向共識的道路前去 |
| 03:00:27,010 | 03:00:29,010 | 但目前我們還是 |
| 03:00:29,010 | 03:00:31,010 | 形式上我們先保留 |
| 03:00:31,010 | 03:00:33,010 | 那還有兩天的溝通時間 |
| 03:00:33,010 | 03:00:35,010 | 謝謝 |
| 03:00:35,010 | 03:00:37,010 | 黃民主黨那這樣我們先處理通三 |
| 03:00:37,010 | 03:00:39,010 | 未來兩天你就持續溝通 |
| 03:00:39,010 | 03:00:41,010 | 九案通三 |
| 03:00:41,010 | 03:00:43,010 | 一百二十案通三 |
| 03:00:43,010 | 03:00:45,010 | 一百二十一案通三 |
| 03:00:45,010 | 03:00:47,010 | 一二四通三 |
| 03:00:47,010 | 03:00:49,010 | 一四二一四三 |
| 03:00:49,010 | 03:00:51,010 | 一四四一四五一四六一四七通三 |
| 03:00:51,010 | 03:00:53,010 | 其餘部分呢 |
| 03:00:53,010 | 03:00:55,010 | 我們也請秘書長跟國民黨團 |
| 03:00:55,010 | 03:00:57,010 | 台灣民眾黨團我們來持續溝通 |
| 03:00:57,010 | 03:00:59,010 | 好請秘書長請 |
| 03:00:59,010 | 03:01:01,010 | 剛才國民黨團同意說那個病案的部分 |
| 03:01:01,010 | 03:01:03,010 | 可以喔可以病案 |
| 03:01:03,010 | 03:01:05,010 | 謝謝國民黨團 |
| 03:01:05,010 | 03:01:07,010 | 就未來這兩天 |
| 03:01:07,010 | 03:01:09,010 | 現在已經同意把這九個案子變成一個案 |
| 03:01:09,010 | 03:01:11,010 | 來溝通台灣民眾黨團也表達 |
| 03:01:11,010 | 03:01:13,010 | 很善意我相信一定會有 |
| 03:01:13,010 | 03:01:15,010 | 很好的結果的好不好 |
| 03:01:15,010 | 03:01:17,010 | 祝福檢察院好謝謝 |
| 03:01:26,620 | 03:01:28,620 | 那個您按號數明早再辛苦再念一次 |
| 03:01:30,770 | 03:01:32,770 | 病117了 |
| 03:01:32,770 | 03:01:34,770 | 我是不是可以再念一次喔 |
| 03:01:34,770 | 03:01:36,770 | 病117了請念 |
| 03:01:51,790 | 03:01:53,790 | 國民黨團沒有意見 |
| 03:01:53,790 | 03:01:55,790 | 謝謝 |
| 03:01:55,790 | 03:01:57,790 | 謝謝各位 |
| 03:01:57,790 | 03:01:59,790 | 我們進入法務部 |
| 03:02:04,370 | 03:02:06,370 | 政務長請坐政務長謝謝 |
| 03:02:06,370 | 03:02:08,370 | 法務政務長請坐好謝謝 |
| 03:02:08,370 | 03:02:10,370 | 我們進入法務部主管149 |
| 03:02:12,480 | 03:02:16,480 | 150 151 152 153 154 155 |
| 03:02:16,480 | 03:02:18,480 | 跟正154保留 |
| 03:02:18,480 | 03:02:20,480 | 155 |
| 03:02:20,480 | 03:02:22,480 | 這幾案全部列為通3 |
| 03:02:22,480 | 03:02:24,480 | 156台灣民眾黨團 |
| 03:02:24,480 | 03:02:26,480 | 全數簡列 |
| 03:02:26,480 | 03:02:28,480 | 麻煩請政務長表達意見 |
| 03:02:28,480 | 03:02:30,480 | 這個一般行政辦理法 |
| 03:02:30,480 | 03:02:32,480 | 至於兩公約人權優先 |
| 03:02:32,480 | 03:02:34,480 | 部分到今年七月底 |
| 03:02:34,480 | 03:02:36,480 | 已經執行了970萬 |
| 03:02:36,480 | 03:02:38,480 | 餘額那剩下200 |
| 03:02:38,480 | 03:02:40,480 | 萬元那第157 |
| 03:02:40,480 | 03:02:42,480 | 案已經簡列了50萬元 |
| 03:02:42,480 | 03:02:44,480 | 建議是否 |
| 03:02:44,480 | 03:02:46,480 | 本案可以簡列50萬元科目 |
| 03:02:46,480 | 03:02:48,480 | 自行調整 |
| 03:02:48,310 | 03:02:50,310 | 台灣民眾黨團現在 |
| 03:02:50,310 | 03:02:52,310 | 因為已經過了12分之8的時間 |
| 03:02:52,310 | 03:02:54,310 | 他們已經花掉了970萬 |
| 03:02:54,310 | 03:02:56,310 | 這筆算只有1172萬 |
| 03:02:56,310 | 03:02:58,310 | 所以可不可以簡列50萬元 |
| 03:02:58,310 | 03:03:00,310 | 我們就通過了 |
| 03:03:00,310 | 03:03:02,310 | 跟院長報告就是我們目前 |
| 03:03:02,310 | 03:03:04,310 | 還是傾向於保留的態度 |
| 03:03:04,310 | 03:03:06,310 | 那沒關係有兩天的溝通時間 |
| 03:03:06,310 | 03:03:08,310 | 也許部長這邊再來跟我們誠意溝通 |
| 03:03:08,310 | 03:03:10,310 | 以上說明謝謝 |
| 03:03:09,840 | 03:03:11,840 | 好部長我們就 |
| 03:03:11,840 | 03:03:13,840 | 你知道我意思嗎就先保留起來 |
| 03:03:13,840 | 03:03:15,840 | 未來兩天你持續溝通我們禮拜五就要處理了 |
| 03:03:15,840 | 03:03:17,840 | 我想應該會 |
| 03:03:17,840 | 03:03:19,840 | 部長台灣民眾黨很愛人去溝通 |
| 03:03:19,840 | 03:03:21,840 | 你們就盡量去溝通 |
| 03:03:23,160 | 03:03:25,160 | 那 |
| 03:03:26,450 | 03:03:28,450 | 167通3 |
| 03:03:28,450 | 03:03:30,450 | 這個兩公約的會都已經辦了 |
| 03:03:30,450 | 03:03:32,450 | 他們已經花了900多萬了 |
| 03:03:32,450 | 03:03:34,450 | 你們應該也很支持兩公約 |
| 03:03:34,450 | 03:03:36,450 | 1702主決議上一次 |
| 03:03:36,450 | 03:03:38,450 | 政部長有意見請今天再一次表達好嗎 |
| 03:03:38,450 | 03:03:40,450 | 是那個我們還是建立 |
| 03:03:40,450 | 03:03:42,450 | 修正主決議的文字圍 |
| 03:03:42,450 | 03:03:44,450 | 原提案要求法務部自 |
| 03:03:44,450 | 03:03:46,450 | 15年期就未從 |
| 03:03:46,450 | 03:03:48,450 | 40審 |
| 03:03:48,450 | 03:03:50,450 | 判或訴訟時 |
| 03:03:50,450 | 03:03:52,450 | 法官如期業務與法律 |
| 03:03:52,450 | 03:03:54,450 | 不相關及不得領取 |
| 03:03:54,450 | 03:03:56,450 | 專業加級我們就以上的文字的 |
| 03:03:56,450 | 03:03:58,450 | 一個修正建議 |
| 03:03:58,450 | 03:04:00,450 | 邱委員這個文字修正你接受嗎 |
| 03:04:00,450 | 03:04:02,450 | 我們主張保留以上說明謝謝 |
| 03:04:03,440 | 03:04:05,440 | 好 |
| 03:04:26,280 | 03:04:28,280 | 好 |
| 03:04:27,530 | 03:04:29,530 | 你爸爸 |
| 03:04:28,820 | 03:04:30,820 | 188要 |
| 03:04:30,820 | 03:04:32,820 | 保留 |
| 03:04:32,870 | 03:04:34,870 | 上述所念的除了187 |
| 03:04:34,870 | 03:04:36,870 | 跟188保留之外其他 |
| 03:04:36,870 | 03:04:38,870 | 其他通通念的通3 |
| 03:04:38,870 | 03:04:40,870 | 各黨同意意見嗎沒有意見 |
| 03:04:40,870 | 03:04:42,870 | 好謝謝法務部謝謝 |
| 03:04:42,870 | 03:04:44,870 | 我們進入未還謝謝 |
| 03:05:15,490 | 03:05:17,490 | 謝謝我們先進入勞動部 |
| 03:05:17,490 | 03:05:19,490 | 洪部長請坐 |
| 03:05:25,080 | 03:05:27,080 | 好洪部長請坐 |
| 03:05:27,190 | 03:05:29,190 | 勞動部第一案第二案第三案 |
| 03:05:29,190 | 03:05:31,190 | 第十案第十一案通三 |
| 03:05:31,190 | 03:05:33,190 | 第十七案 |
| 03:05:33,190 | 03:05:35,190 | 台灣民眾黨團凍結20%提保留 |
| 03:05:35,190 | 03:05:37,190 | 邱委員對嗎 |
| 03:05:37,190 | 03:05:39,190 | 是我們主張保留謝謝 |
| 03:05:39,190 | 03:05:41,190 | 好我們先保留19案通三 |
| 03:05:41,190 | 03:05:43,190 | 20案通三42案 |
| 03:05:43,190 | 03:05:45,190 | 台灣民眾黨團繼續提保留 |
| 03:05:45,190 | 03:05:47,190 | 邱委員對嗎 |
| 03:05:47,190 | 03:05:49,190 | 是我們主張保留謝謝 |
| 03:05:49,190 | 03:05:51,190 | 洪部長請發言 |
| 03:05:51,190 | 03:05:53,190 | 第42案我們是可以遵照辦理 |
| 03:05:53,190 | 03:05:55,190 | 但可不可以把它改成是 |
| 03:05:55,190 | 03:05:57,190 | 書面如果改書面的話我們是遵照辦理 |
| 03:05:58,730 | 03:06:00,730 | 就是 |
| 03:06:00,180 | 03:06:02,180 | 簡列1000萬元凍結20%改書面報告 |
| 03:06:02,180 | 03:06:04,180 | 所以我們會做 |
| 03:06:04,180 | 03:06:06,180 | 我們會做那勞動部現在就這樣就同意 |
| 03:06:06,180 | 03:06:08,180 | 就是我們就同意我們可以同意 |
| 03:06:08,180 | 03:06:10,180 | 但是希望可以改書面 |
| 03:06:10,180 | 03:06:12,180 | 我們還是先保留 |
| 03:06:12,180 | 03:06:14,180 | 我們再溝通一下我們還是先保留 |
| 03:06:14,180 | 03:06:16,180 | 我們還是先保留 |
| 03:06:15,720 | 03:06:17,720 | 那我們就同意 |
| 03:06:18,050 | 03:06:20,050 | 我們同意 |
| 03:06:20,050 | 03:06:22,050 | 我們檢列1000萬元凍結20% |
| 03:06:22,050 | 03:06:24,050 | 部長是說同意檢列是不是 |
| 03:06:24,050 | 03:06:26,050 | 他同意了 |
| 03:06:25,890 | 03:06:27,890 | 好我們進入衛生福利部 |
| 03:06:27,890 | 03:06:29,890 | 謝謝洪部長 |
| 03:06:29,890 | 03:06:31,890 | 麻煩請石部長請就座 |
| 03:06:34,600 | 03:06:36,600 | 他們是不能去的 |
| 03:06:36,750 | 03:06:38,750 | 請就座 |
| 03:06:38,750 | 03:06:40,750 | 國民黨團第63案保留 |
| 03:06:40,750 | 03:06:42,750 | 對嗎 |
| 03:06:42,750 | 03:06:44,750 | 好保留 |
| 03:06:44,750 | 03:06:46,750 | 81案82案83案94通3 |
| 03:06:46,750 | 03:06:48,750 | 101保留 |
| 03:06:48,750 | 03:06:50,750 | 國民黨團請表達意見 |
| 03:06:50,750 | 03:06:52,750 | 是的保留 |
| 03:06:52,750 | 03:06:54,750 | 好我們就保留 |
| 03:06:54,750 | 03:06:56,750 | 石部長你要講話你隨時舉手 |
| 03:06:56,750 | 03:06:58,750 | 不要客氣 |
| 03:06:58,750 | 03:07:00,750 | 如果你都不講話我就繼續往下念下去了 |
| 03:07:00,750 | 03:07:02,750 | 院長可不可以讓我說明一下 |
| 03:07:02,750 | 03:07:04,750 | 因為第60案 |
| 03:07:04,750 | 03:07:06,750 | 這個 |
| 03:07:06,750 | 03:07:08,750 | 因為這個業務費 |
| 03:07:08,750 | 03:07:10,750 | 涉及到我們這些偏鄉的 |
| 03:07:10,750 | 03:07:12,750 | 醫師的這個津貼 |
| 03:07:12,750 | 03:07:14,750 | 那麼也涉及到我們的安心專線 |
| 03:07:14,750 | 03:07:16,750 | 1925專線 |
| 03:07:16,750 | 03:07:18,750 | 這個自殺防治專線 |
| 03:07:18,750 | 03:07:20,750 | 也有1957的社會福利諮詢專線 |
| 03:07:20,750 | 03:07:22,750 | 也有1957的社會福利諮詢專線 |
| 03:07:22,750 | 03:07:24,750 | 還包含我們醫事人員的這個憑證的發放 |
| 03:07:24,750 | 03:07:26,750 | 還包含我們醫事人員的這個憑證的發放 |
| 03:07:26,750 | 03:07:28,750 | 都是這個業務費裡面 |
| 03:07:28,750 | 03:07:30,750 | 所以這個整個被 |
| 03:07:30,750 | 03:07:32,750 | 被檢列8到12月真的是 |
| 03:07:32,750 | 03:07:34,750 | 太嚴重了我們整個 |
| 03:07:34,750 | 03:07:36,750 | 衛福部的業務會停擺 |
| 03:07:36,750 | 03:07:38,750 | 所以這邊要懇請這個委員 |
| 03:07:38,750 | 03:07:40,750 | 來考慮 |
| 03:07:40,750 | 03:07:42,750 | 這部份也請 |
| 03:07:42,750 | 03:07:44,750 | 國外民黨就不要來一件 |
| 03:07:44,380 | 03:07:46,380 | 請教石部長8到12月的業務費 |
| 03:07:46,380 | 03:07:48,380 | 到底是多少因為我們希望消息說 |
| 03:07:48,380 | 03:07:50,380 | 衛福部不肯提供數字 |
| 03:07:50,380 | 03:07:52,380 | 對吧 |
| 03:07:52,380 | 03:07:54,380 | 跟委員說明因為我們的預算 |
| 03:07:54,380 | 03:07:56,380 | 的編列都是以年度編列 |
| 03:07:56,380 | 03:07:58,380 | 我們沒有按月編列的預算 |
| 03:07:58,380 | 03:08:00,380 | 是年度的編列 |
| 03:08:00,380 | 03:08:02,380 | 所以很多的因為我們簽出去就是 |
| 03:08:02,380 | 03:08:04,380 | 整個就簽了沒有所謂的哪個月 |
| 03:08:04,380 | 03:08:06,380 | 哪個月的預算 |
| 03:08:06,380 | 03:08:08,380 | 是全年度的預算 |
| 03:08:08,160 | 03:08:10,160 | 這個請國民黨團這邊 |
| 03:08:10,160 | 03:08:12,160 | 我知道你們對衛福部有一些 |
| 03:08:12,160 | 03:08:14,160 | 就是不同的意見覺得他們做得不夠好 |
| 03:08:14,160 | 03:08:16,160 | 可是不要傷害到這個自殺 |
| 03:08:16,160 | 03:08:18,160 | 房子專線跟基層議事的費用 |
| 03:08:18,160 | 03:08:20,160 | 這業務費它有很大一部分 |
| 03:08:20,160 | 03:08:22,160 | 就是過手的 |
| 03:08:22,160 | 03:08:24,160 | 這個財神其實是給別人的啦 |
| 03:08:24,160 | 03:08:26,160 | 我想這個衛福部 |
| 03:08:26,160 | 03:08:28,160 | 這個部分影響很大是不是國民黨 |
| 03:08:28,160 | 03:08:30,160 | 這邊可以再考慮一下 |
| 03:08:30,870 | 03:08:32,870 | 還是有兩天時間可以請部長 |
| 03:08:32,870 | 03:08:34,870 | 那個林處長也 |
| 03:08:34,870 | 03:08:36,870 | 通關密碼出來了 |
| 03:08:36,870 | 03:08:38,870 | 未來兩天等你溝通好嗎 |
| 03:08:38,870 | 03:08:40,870 | 謝謝那1010 122 |
| 03:08:40,870 | 03:08:42,870 | 你要表來一件嗎我們就先保留囉 |
| 03:08:43,390 | 03:08:45,390 | 保留謝謝 |
| 03:08:51,440 | 03:08:53,440 | 凍結10分之3 |
| 03:08:53,440 | 03:08:55,440 | 市部長請表達意見 |
| 03:08:55,440 | 03:08:57,440 | 跟委員會說明這個黨團說明 |
| 03:08:57,440 | 03:08:59,440 | 因為131 |
| 03:08:59,440 | 03:09:01,440 | 這個是涉及到我們的 |
| 03:09:01,440 | 03:09:03,440 | 邊境的查驗 |
| 03:09:03,440 | 03:09:05,440 | 還有藥品的 |
| 03:09:05,440 | 03:09:07,440 | 茶燈那另外也有檢驗的 |
| 03:09:07,440 | 03:09:09,440 | 這些費用都在這裡面 |
| 03:09:09,440 | 03:09:11,440 | 所以是不是可以 |
| 03:09:11,440 | 03:09:13,440 | 凍結的部分可不可以少凍 |
| 03:09:13,440 | 03:09:15,440 | 讓我們能夠持續的運作 |
| 03:09:15,440 | 03:09:17,440 | 本來是凍結10分之3 |
| 03:09:17,440 | 03:09:19,440 | 可不可以改為凍結5% |
| 03:09:19,440 | 03:09:21,440 | 沒有猜錯的話 邱委員應該會說保留啦 |
| 03:09:21,440 | 03:09:23,440 | 但是我願意多講兩句 |
| 03:09:23,440 | 03:09:25,440 | 加一個書面報告他們可不可以接受 |
| 03:09:26,630 | 03:09:28,630 | 因為就是這個食安的問題 |
| 03:09:28,630 | 03:09:30,630 | 真的是讓郭陳真心惶惶 |
| 03:09:30,630 | 03:09:32,630 | 那這個問題我們目前是持保留的態度 |
| 03:09:32,630 | 03:09:34,630 | 那還有兩天的時間 |
| 03:09:34,630 | 03:09:36,630 | 也許再請部長來跟我們誠意溝通 |
| 03:09:36,630 | 03:09:38,630 | 以上說明謝謝 |
| 03:09:38,630 | 03:09:40,630 | 那就是未來兩天持續跟台灣民眾黨團 |
| 03:09:40,630 | 03:09:42,630 | 國民黨團保持溝通好嗎 |
| 03:09:42,630 | 03:09:44,630 | 好希望一切會順利 |
| 03:09:44,630 | 03:09:46,630 | 好謝謝食部長謝謝我們進入環境部 |
| 03:09:50,990 | 03:09:55,990 | 好彭部長請做160案通篩173184通篩 |
| 03:09:55,990 | 03:09:58,990 | 191案國民黨團提保留請表達意見國民黨團 |
| 03:10:00,580 | 03:10:02,580 | 這也是保留沒錯 |
| 03:10:02,580 | 03:10:04,580 | 彭部長你隨時都可以發言 |
| 03:10:04,580 | 03:10:06,580 | 如果你不發言沒問題 |
| 03:10:06,580 | 03:10:08,580 | 因為我們這幾天一直找陳秋瑋他不在台北 |
| 03:10:08,580 | 03:10:10,580 | 是不是可以改成書面報告 |
| 03:10:09,560 | 03:10:11,560 | 陳秋瑋沒有給黨團這個建議 |
| 03:10:11,560 | 03:10:13,560 | 好謝謝委員 |
| 03:10:13,560 | 03:10:15,560 | 那這樣好不好 |
| 03:10:15,560 | 03:10:17,560 | 你就未來兩天繼續去找他 |
| 03:10:17,560 | 03:10:19,560 | 我相信一定可以找得到的 |
| 03:10:19,560 | 03:10:21,560 | 凍結10% |
| 03:10:21,560 | 03:10:23,560 | 我們就保留196197 |
| 03:10:23,290 | 03:10:25,290 | 一九一九九 |
| 03:10:25,640 | 03:10:27,640 | 通篩200案 |
| 03:10:27,640 | 03:10:31,640 | 台灣民眾黨團凍結10分之3 |
| 03:10:31,640 | 03:10:33,640 | 彭部長您要表達意見嗎 |
| 03:10:33,640 | 03:10:35,640 | 我們是希望可以凍少一點啦 |
| 03:10:35,640 | 03:10:37,640 | 但是如果說委員都保留的話我們就遵照委員 |
| 03:10:37,640 | 03:10:39,640 | 秋瑋委員 |
| 03:10:39,640 | 03:10:41,640 | 是我們就是保留的態度那部長當然也歡迎你來溝通 |
| 03:10:41,640 | 03:10:45,640 | 我們也要約很多事都約不到時間 |
| 03:10:45,640 | 03:10:47,640 | 謝謝 |
| 03:10:47,640 | 03:10:51,640 | 希望行政部門跟台灣民眾黨團溝通的時候 |
| 03:10:51,640 | 03:10:53,640 | 也要約得到時間 |
| 03:10:53,640 | 03:10:55,640 | 民眾黨團你們叫人家只剩兩天了 |
| 03:10:55,640 | 03:10:57,640 | 叫人家溝通然後又約不出來 |
| 03:10:57,640 | 03:10:59,640 | 這樣會 |
| 03:10:59,640 | 03:11:01,640 | 要焦慮死了 |
| 03:11:01,640 | 03:11:03,640 | 不會不會 |
| 03:11:03,640 | 03:11:05,640 | 確定溝通可以約到 |
| 03:11:05,640 | 03:11:07,640 | 206案就通篩 |
| 03:11:07,640 | 03:11:09,640 | 謝謝彭部長 |
| 03:11:14,000 | 03:11:16,000 | 我們現在跟各黨團報告一下 |
| 03:11:16,000 | 03:11:18,000 | 我們第三輪協商已經告一段落了 |
| 03:11:18,000 | 03:11:20,000 | 病案通篩部分 |
| 03:11:20,000 | 03:11:22,000 | 除各黨團特別要求保留之外 |
| 03:11:22,000 | 03:11:24,000 | 大部分已經不再保留 |
| 03:11:24,000 | 03:11:26,000 | 有關通傳會NCC部分 |
| 03:11:26,000 | 03:11:28,000 | 非通篩的其他部分 |
| 03:11:28,000 | 03:11:30,000 | 我們原則上都保留 |
| 03:11:30,000 | 03:11:32,000 | 各黨團保持溝通 |
| 03:11:32,000 | 03:11:34,000 | 我們看應該如何處理 |
| 03:11:34,000 | 03:11:36,000 | 這就是陳青龍總召剛才所提的 |
| 03:11:36,000 | 03:11:38,000 | 現在我們還有一個問題 |
| 03:11:38,000 | 03:11:40,000 | 就是針對本次總預算案凍結部分 |
| 03:11:40,000 | 03:11:42,000 | 由於本年度的預算 |
| 03:11:42,000 | 03:11:44,000 | 執行期間只剩下四個月 |
| 03:11:44,000 | 03:11:46,000 | 下會期又是九月底開議 |
| 03:11:46,000 | 03:11:48,000 | 針對凍結部分 |
| 03:11:48,000 | 03:11:50,000 | 可以處理的時間非常緊迫 |
| 03:11:50,000 | 03:11:52,000 | 所以請問各黨團我們是否 |
| 03:11:52,000 | 03:11:54,000 | 疑慮以T書面報告 |
| 03:11:54,000 | 03:11:56,000 | 與解凍處理 |
| 03:11:56,000 | 03:11:58,000 | 除非經過委員會 |
| 03:11:58,000 | 03:12:00,000 | 或是院會的決議 |
| 03:12:00,000 | 03:12:02,000 | 通過特別需經同一方 |
| 03:12:02,000 | 03:12:04,000 | 可解凍的話我們才 |
| 03:12:04,000 | 03:12:06,000 | 例外處理這點非常重要 |
| 03:12:06,000 | 03:12:08,000 | 如果各黨團同意我們就這樣處理 |
| 03:12:08,000 | 03:12:10,000 | 好嗎 |
| 03:12:09,420 | 03:12:11,420 | 好的,都同意,謝謝 |
| 03:12:11,420 | 03:12:13,420 | 如果有特別的當然可以提出來 |
| 03:12:14,730 | 03:12:16,730 | 如果有特別的 |
| 03:12:16,730 | 03:12:18,730 | 我記得台灣民眾黨有些提案 |
| 03:12:18,730 | 03:12:20,730 | 有些要求專案報告 |
| 03:12:20,730 | 03:12:22,730 | 如果下次有特別提到的話 |
| 03:12:22,730 | 03:12:24,730 | 專案報告知道尊重委員的權益 |
| 03:12:24,730 | 03:12:26,730 | 各黨團請放心,你們剛剛所提特別的 |
| 03:12:26,730 | 03:12:28,730 | 我們全部都記錄了 |
| 03:12:28,730 | 03:12:30,730 | 我們在講的是其他的,除了特別之外 |
| 03:12:30,850 | 03:12:32,850 | 那就一定要徵詢各位同意 |
| 03:12:33,790 | 03:12:35,790 | 第三,如果沒有意見的話 |
| 03:12:35,790 | 03:12:37,790 | 我們就把上開凍結案處理的方式 |
| 03:12:37,790 | 03:12:39,790 | 寫入朝野黨團寫上的結論 |
| 03:12:39,790 | 03:12:41,790 | 復健之中,予以續名 |
| 03:12:41,790 | 03:12:43,790 | 第四,本件總預算案 |
| 03:12:43,790 | 03:12:45,790 | 我們就列入本周院會14號星期五 |
| 03:12:45,790 | 03:12:47,790 | 正式進行處理 |
| 03:12:47,790 | 03:12:49,790 | 各黨團有意見嗎 |
| 03:12:52,720 | 03:12:54,720 | 沒有意見,好,謝謝 |
| 03:12:57,700 | 03:12:59,700 | 秋元你不要聽後面的人,你看我的眼睛 |
| 03:13:01,610 | 03:13:03,610 | 禮拜五不一定要處理 |
| 03:13:03,610 | 03:13:05,610 | 禮拜五有一個公投案 |
| 03:13:05,610 | 03:13:07,610 | 要先處理 |
| 03:13:07,610 | 03:13:09,610 | 處理完之後再處理預算案 |
| 03:13:09,610 | 03:13:11,610 | 所以以公投為優先 |
| 03:13:11,610 | 03:13:13,610 | 輕重緩急 |
| 03:13:13,610 | 03:13:15,610 | 你看我的眼睛,你就會有信心了 |
| 03:13:15,610 | 03:13:17,610 | 我們一定要把公投案先處理完 |
| 03:13:17,610 | 03:13:19,610 | 這樣也沒問題 |
| 03:13:19,610 | 03:13:21,610 | 了解,就是有一個前後順序 |
| 03:13:21,610 | 03:13:23,610 | 還是你要保留我的看法 |
| 03:13:23,610 | 03:13:25,610 | 你同意我的看法嗎 |
| 03:13:25,610 | 03:13:27,610 | 完全同意 |
| 03:13:28,480 | 03:13:30,480 | 我們禮拜五就進行處理 |
| 03:13:30,480 | 03:13:32,480 | 這點很重要,第五點 |
| 03:13:32,480 | 03:13:34,480 | 如果院會14號沒有及時處理完畢 |
| 03:13:34,480 | 03:13:36,480 | 我們就加開 |
| 03:13:36,480 | 03:13:38,480 | 17號,週一 |
| 03:13:38,480 | 03:13:40,480 | 我們下午院會 |
| 03:13:40,480 | 03:13:42,480 | 來進行一個 |
| 03:13:42,480 | 03:13:44,480 | 週一我們下午院會 |
| 03:13:44,480 | 03:13:46,480 | 我想上午也沒問題 |
| 03:13:46,480 | 03:13:48,480 | 就一整天 |
| 03:13:50,520 | 03:13:52,520 | 台心大一點 |
| 03:13:52,520 | 03:13:54,520 | 我們就禮拜一進行 |
| 03:13:55,090 | 03:13:57,090 | 請問禮拜五會表決到幾點鐘 |
| 03:13:57,090 | 03:13:59,090 | 會處理不完嗎 |
| 03:14:01,720 | 03:14:03,720 | 請問還剩幾個案院長這邊有沒有算 |
| 03:14:04,890 | 03:14:06,890 | 等一下再整理 |
| 03:14:07,110 | 03:14:09,110 | 應該 |
| 03:14:11,760 | 03:14:13,760 | 你遇到一個 |
| 03:14:13,760 | 03:14:15,760 | 神秘的 |
| 03:14:15,760 | 03:14:17,760 | 沒有看到的總召 |
| 03:14:17,760 | 03:14:19,760 | 一個保留公主,兩個人坐在 |
| 03:14:19,760 | 03:14:21,760 | 我們都沒有把握 |
| 03:14:21,760 | 03:14:23,760 | 沒問題,我們盡量 |
| 03:14:23,860 | 03:14:25,860 | 我們禮拜五盡量處理 |
| 03:14:25,860 | 03:14:27,860 | 12點以前結束 |
| 03:14:27,860 | 03:14:29,860 | 禮拜一要加開 |
| 03:14:29,860 | 03:14:31,860 | 這點請大家準備 |
| 03:14:31,860 | 03:14:33,860 | 通知所有委員 |
| 03:14:33,860 | 03:14:35,860 | 現在有協商結論 |
| 03:14:35,860 | 03:14:37,860 | 我們請議事人分發 |
| 03:14:37,860 | 03:14:39,860 | 我來宣讀一下 |
| 03:14:40,590 | 03:14:42,590 | 你來把他練完 |
| 03:14:42,590 | 03:14:44,590 | 我們現在協商結論 |
| 03:14:44,590 | 03:14:46,590 | 簽字之中請八個委員會 |
| 03:14:46,590 | 03:14:48,590 | 依照第三輪協商結果 |
| 03:14:48,590 | 03:14:50,590 | 整理宣讀本以及保留本 |
| 03:14:50,590 | 03:14:52,590 | 於本週三下午前送各黨團確認 |
| 03:14:52,590 | 03:14:54,590 | 並請財政委員會會診 |
| 03:14:54,590 | 03:14:56,590 | 於週四下午送醫事處 |
| 03:14:58,660 | 03:15:00,660 | 我們就協商 |
| 03:15:11,330 | 03:15:13,330 | 請各黨團幹部看一下 |
| 03:15:13,330 | 03:15:15,330 | 我們立法院黨團協商結論 |
| 03:15:18,180 | 03:15:20,180 | 喔 |
| 03:15:19,080 | 03:15:21,080 | 有點緊張 |
| 03:15:22,230 | 03:15:24,230 | 我們現在決定事項 |
| 03:15:25,140 | 03:15:30,140 | 一,各黨團同意115年度總預算案子討論程序及決定事項 |
| 03:15:30,140 | 03:15:36,140 | 如附件一,通過針對各機關所屬通案刪減用途項目 |
| 03:15:36,140 | 03:15:40,140 | 含行政院主計總處整理之明細內容 |
| 03:15:40,140 | 03:15:42,140 | 如附件二 |
| 03:15:42,090 | 03:15:46,090 | 通案提案及各委員會通過這協商內容含保留部分 |
| 03:15:46,090 | 03:15:48,090 | 如附件三 |
| 03:15:48,090 | 03:15:50,090 | 由各委員會整理宣讀本及保留本 |
| 03:15:52,050 | 03:15:54,050 | 上開附件一至二 |
| 03:15:54,050 | 03:15:57,050 | 由財政委員會會診送各黨團確認 |
| 03:15:57,050 | 03:15:58,050 | 附件三 |
| 03:15:58,050 | 03:16:01,050 | 由各委員會送各黨團確認後 |
| 03:16:01,050 | 03:16:03,050 | 送財政委員會 |
| 03:16:03,050 | 03:16:05,050 | 附件一至三 |
| 03:16:05,050 | 03:16:10,050 | 由財政委員會於8月13日星期四下午4點前送醫事處 |
| 03:16:10,050 | 03:16:12,050 | 一共 |
| 03:16:11,610 | 03:16:13,610 | 院會進行處理 |
| 03:16:14,430 | 03:16:16,430 | 二 |
| 03:16:15,980 | 03:16:18,980 | 裴強委員,麻煩你專心聽一下,因為這個等一下要簽字了,好不好 |
| 03:16:18,980 | 03:16:21,980 | 本案於8月14日星期五院會進行保留 |
| 03:16:21,980 | 03:16:24,980 | 非保留部分宣讀後均予以通過 |
| 03:16:24,980 | 03:16:27,980 | 保留部分均暫保留 |
| 03:16:28,370 | 03:16:30,370 | 保留部分進行處理之前 |
| 03:16:30,370 | 03:16:32,370 | 由台灣民眾黨團 |
| 03:16:32,370 | 03:16:33,370 | 民進黨團 |
| 03:16:33,370 | 03:16:34,370 | 國民黨團 |
| 03:16:34,370 | 03:16:36,370 | 各推派一位委員發言 |
| 03:16:36,370 | 03:16:38,370 | 發言順序授權醫事處來進行處理 |
| 03:16:38,370 | 03:16:40,370 | 每位委員發言時間三分鐘 |
| 03:16:40,370 | 03:16:42,370 | 發言完畢之後各體 |
| 03:16:42,370 | 03:16:44,370 | 保留提案我們均不再發言 |
| 03:16:45,810 | 03:16:47,810 | 即按通案 |
| 03:16:47,810 | 03:16:51,810 | 各委員會會次序進行保留提案之處理 |
| 03:16:52,230 | 03:16:53,230 | 三 |
| 03:16:53,230 | 03:16:55,230 | 本案於8月14日星期五 |
| 03:16:55,230 | 03:16:57,230 | 未及完成三讀 |
| 03:16:57,230 | 03:16:59,230 | 各黨團同意 |
| 03:16:59,380 | 03:17:01,380 | 於8月17日星期一加開院會 |
| 03:17:01,380 | 03:17:03,380 | 下午兩日劃掉 |
| 03:17:03,380 | 03:17:05,380 | 因為我們怕時間不夠 |
| 03:17:05,380 | 03:17:06,380 | 加開院會 |
| 03:17:06,380 | 03:17:08,380 | 於8月14日星期五合併為一次會議 |
| 03:17:08,380 | 03:17:10,380 | 繼續處理本案 |
| 03:17:10,380 | 03:17:11,380 | 處理完畢之後 |
| 03:17:11,380 | 03:17:12,380 | 進行散會 |
| 03:17:12,380 | 03:17:15,380 | 當次會議我們不再處理臨時提案 |
| 03:17:15,380 | 03:17:17,380 | 我們先把下午兩日拿掉 |
| 03:17:17,380 | 03:17:19,380 | 四,本次協商各項提案 |
| 03:17:19,380 | 03:17:22,380 | 我們均與刊登公報記錄 |
| 03:17:22,380 | 03:17:25,380 | 這四點要請各黨團幹部仔細思考一下 |
| 03:17:25,380 | 03:17:27,380 | 我也希望各位黨團幹部在現場 |
| 03:17:27,380 | 03:17:29,380 | 你們都有獲得授權 |
| 03:17:30,820 | 03:17:32,820 | 不然我們開這個草擬協商 |
| 03:17:32,820 | 03:17:34,820 | 以後會變得一點用處都沒有 |
| 03:17:34,820 | 03:17:36,820 | 只是讓我們徒增疲倦而已 |
| 03:17:36,820 | 03:17:38,820 | 我希望各位黨團幹部如果認同 |
| 03:17:38,820 | 03:17:39,820 | 請現在簽字 |
| 03:17:39,820 | 03:17:41,820 | 而且要保證是有效的 |
| 03:17:47,610 | 03:17:48,610 | 謝謝 |
| 03:17:50,770 | 03:17:51,770 | 請簽字 |
| 03:18:07,120 | 03:18:09,120 | 簽字完我們就要宣告了 |
| 03:18:09,120 | 03:18:10,120 | 請簽字 |
| 03:19:45,110 | 03:19:46,110 | 還是沒辦法簽啊 |
| 03:19:47,420 | 03:19:49,420 | 只有民進黨人簽 |
| 03:20:34,490 | 03:20:36,490 | 不是,各黨團你要簽字啊 |
| 03:20:36,490 | 03:20:38,490 | 我們在這邊開會開了個口乾舌燥 |
| 03:20:38,490 | 03:20:40,490 | 這麼辛苦我們所求為何啊 |
| 03:20:46,740 | 03:20:47,740 | 而且你們所 |
| 03:20:48,510 | 03:20:50,510 | 擔心在意的我都已經想 |
| 03:20:50,510 | 03:20:52,510 | 先把公投處理完畢 |
| 03:20:52,510 | 03:20:53,510 | 開始處理總預算 |
| 03:20:55,310 | 03:20:56,310 | 你們趕快簽字啊 |
| 03:20:56,310 | 03:20:57,310 | 你不簽字以後草擬協商這樣 |
| 03:20:57,310 | 03:20:59,310 | 如果不簽字的話 |
| 03:20:59,560 | 03:21:00,560 | 你後果要自己負責哦 |
| 03:21:01,910 | 03:21:03,910 | 你怎麼對全國人民交代啊 |
| 03:21:04,950 | 03:21:05,950 | 立法院那麼病態啊 |
| 03:21:07,610 | 03:21:08,610 | 莫名其妙嘛 |
| 03:21:11,680 | 03:21:13,680 | 你耍我們跟耍猴子一樣是不是 |
| 03:21:16,950 | 03:21:18,950 | 立法院被黑暗的力量控制住了 |
| 03:21:19,630 | 03:21:20,630 | 莫名其妙 |
| 03:21:29,180 | 03:21:30,180 | 禁酒不喝喝法酒 |
| 03:21:30,180 | 03:21:32,180 | 一定要把話講得那麼難聽 |
| 03:21:32,180 | 03:21:33,180 | 才簽字 |
| 03:21:33,600 | 03:21:35,600 | 你應該被坐在這裡就被授權了啦 |
| 03:21:35,600 | 03:21:37,600 | 我們開這個什麼會 |
| 03:21:45,970 | 03:21:47,970 | 我如果不簽字後果自行負責 |
| 03:21:54,800 | 03:21:56,800 | 告訴全國人民我們要研會到8月底 |
| 03:21:56,800 | 03:21:58,800 | 結果一絲無成 |
| 03:21:58,710 | 03:22:00,710 | 怎麼跟全國人民交代 |
| 03:22:01,340 | 03:22:02,340 | 立法院何必研會 |
| 03:22:12,380 | 03:22:14,380 | 立法院 |
| 03:22:21,750 | 03:22:22,750 | 立法院 |
| 03:22:23,110 | 03:22:24,110 | 就這麼說 |
| 03:22:24,110 | 03:22:25,110 | 就這麼簽字 |
| 03:22:25,110 | 03:22:26,110 | 就這麼說 |
| 03:22:26,110 | 03:22:27,110 | 那就等吧 |
| 03:22:27,110 | 03:22:28,110 | 等到簽了 |
| 03:22:28,110 | 03:22:29,110 | 等到簽了 |
| 03:22:29,110 | 03:22:30,110 | 因為 |
| 03:22:30,110 | 03:22:31,110 | 指揮官剛剛也講過可以吧 |
| 03:22:32,920 | 03:22:33,920 | 都可以簽的 |
| 03:22:33,920 | 03:22:34,920 | 都應該要講過 |
| 03:22:34,920 | 03:22:36,920 | 公國在前就簽了 |
| 03:22:36,920 | 03:22:38,920 | 因為民眾來不及 |
| 03:22:43,970 | 03:22:44,970 | 沒有問題啦 |
| 03:22:44,970 | 03:22:45,970 | 剛才講過啦 |
| 03:22:45,970 | 03:22:46,970 | 公國的未來要簽了 |
| 03:22:51,140 | 03:22:54,140 | 郭公主這邊 |
| 03:22:56,410 | 03:22:57,410 | 好 |
| 03:22:57,410 | 03:22:58,410 | 我們所有黨的幹部都簽字了 |
| 03:23:00,860 | 03:23:01,860 | 謝謝各位黨團幹部 |
| 03:23:01,860 | 03:23:03,860 | 也謝謝陳主席長您從頭到尾謝謝 |
| 03:23:03,860 | 03:23:04,860 | 我們第三個協商告一段 |
| 03:23:04,860 | 03:23:06,860 | 病案通案通三部各黨 |
| 03:23:06,860 | 03:23:07,860 | 我們這剛才 |
| 03:23:11,530 | 03:23:13,530 | 好謝謝我們就協商到此為止 |
| 03:23:13,530 | 03:23:15,530 | 未來兩天拜託行政部門 |
| 03:23:15,530 | 03:23:17,530 | 跟各黨團密切溝通 |
| 03:23:17,530 | 03:23:18,530 | 特別是提案委員 |
| 03:23:18,530 | 03:23:20,530 | 希望能達成共識 |
| 03:23:20,530 | 03:23:22,530 | 讓禮拜五處理中央政府總預算 |
| 03:23:22,530 | 03:23:24,530 | 能夠更順暢 |
| 03:23:24,530 | 03:23:26,530 | 也謝謝各位黨團幹部 |
| 03:23:26,530 | 03:23:27,530 | 謝謝各位所有工作夥伴 |
| 03:23:27,530 | 03:23:29,530 | 謝謝行政院陳主席長 |
| 03:23:29,530 | 03:23:30,530 | 我們現在散會 |