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| 00:20:20,000 | 00:20:22,000 | 我就是想要你 |
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| 00:30:22,000 | 00:30:24,000 | 我就是想要你 |
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| 00:31:44,000 | 00:31:46,000 | 我就是想要你 |
| 00:31:46,000 | 00:31:49,000 | 我們現在開始協商會議 |
| 00:31:49,000 | 00:31:52,000 | 本日協商會議協商國民黨黨團 |
| 00:31:52,000 | 00:31:54,000 | 本院洪孟凱委員等 |
| 00:31:54,000 | 00:31:59,000 | 拒你拒公民投票提案主文的不同主題 |
| 00:31:59,000 | 00:32:04,000 | 稍後按協商通知排序依協商進行協商 |
| 00:32:04,000 | 00:32:06,000 | 在協商進行時 |
| 00:32:06,000 | 00:32:08,000 | 我先 |
| 00:32:08,000 | 00:32:10,000 | 對協商進行前 |
| 00:32:10,000 | 00:32:12,000 | 先介紹到場委員 |
| 00:32:12,000 | 00:32:15,000 | 首先我先介紹民眾黨的這個洪玉祥委員 |
| 00:32:15,000 | 00:32:19,000 | 然後我們本黨的翁曉琳委員跟王玉明委員 |
| 00:32:19,000 | 00:32:21,000 | 還有民進黨的陳培於委員 |
| 00:32:21,000 | 00:32:23,000 | 好那我們現在 |
| 00:32:23,000 | 00:32:26,000 | 現在首先先進行主題一 |
| 00:32:26,000 | 00:32:29,000 | 我們來協商我們第一題來協商 |
| 00:32:29,000 | 00:32:33,000 | 國民黨黨團擬拒公民投票主案 |
| 00:32:33,000 | 00:32:40,000 | 主題案主文為您是否同意各級法院何議庭 |
| 00:32:40,000 | 00:32:44,000 | 法官判處死刑不應局限與一致決之政策 |
| 00:32:44,000 | 00:32:46,000 | 請公決案 |
| 00:32:46,000 | 00:32:50,000 | 協商時請參閱提案關係文書 |
| 00:32:50,000 | 00:32:59,000 | 本案經115年6月26號第五會期第15次院會決議 |
| 00:32:59,000 | 00:33:04,000 | 交付黨團協商並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商 |
| 00:33:04,000 | 00:33:09,000 | 現在請提案的國民黨黨團是否請先受座名 |
| 00:33:09,000 | 00:33:12,000 | 主席好在座的各位委員大家好 |
| 00:33:12,000 | 00:33:20,000 | 那這次國民黨黨團提出這個所謂的反實質廢死的公投案 |
| 00:33:20,000 | 00:33:24,000 | 那最主要的原因也是因為大法官在現在 |
| 00:33:24,000 | 00:33:28,000 | 做成了113年憲判至第8號判決之後 |
| 00:33:28,000 | 00:33:33,000 | 那麼在這個目前死刑仍然是合憲的條件之下 |
| 00:33:33,000 | 00:33:36,000 | 卻又在法律上強加合憲法 |
| 00:33:36,000 | 00:33:40,000 | 的條件之下卻又在法律上強加何奕庭的法官 |
| 00:33:40,000 | 00:33:43,000 | 要做一致決的這種嚴格的限制 |
| 00:33:43,000 | 00:33:46,000 | 所以呢像這樣的一個憲判字 |
| 00:33:46,000 | 00:33:50,000 | 實質上已經架空了死刑的制度 |
| 00:33:50,000 | 00:33:54,000 | 剝奪了個別國民法官或職業法官的獨立審判的意見 |
| 00:33:54,000 | 00:33:57,000 | 那麼讓死刑等於是名存實亡 |
| 00:33:57,000 | 00:34:02,000 | 所以呢為了要這個維持死刑制度的實質威嚇力 |
| 00:34:02,000 | 00:34:07,000 | 而且同時也希望能夠讓這個整個法官 |
| 00:34:07,000 | 00:34:10,000 | 在審理相關死刑案件的時候能夠 |
| 00:34:10,000 | 00:34:13,000 | 仍然回到最基本的民主的這樣一個機制 |
| 00:34:13,000 | 00:34:16,000 | 所以在這裡提出了公投案 |
| 00:34:16,000 | 00:34:19,000 | 那麼我們這次的公投主文是您是否同意 |
| 00:34:19,000 | 00:34:22,000 | 各級法院何奕庭的法官判處死刑 |
| 00:34:22,000 | 00:34:24,000 | 不應侷限於一致決的政策 |
| 00:34:24,000 | 00:34:26,000 | 這個算是一個立法的政策 |
| 00:34:26,000 | 00:34:30,000 | 如果說全民有支持這樣一個立法政策的公投的話 |
| 00:34:30,000 | 00:34:33,000 | 那麼之後可以作為未來立法院 |
| 00:34:33,000 | 00:34:36,000 | 在修改相關法律的時候一個重要的參考 |
| 00:34:36,000 | 00:34:38,000 | 以上說明 |
| 00:34:38,000 | 00:34:40,000 | 好謝謝翁曉琳委員說明 |
| 00:34:40,000 | 00:34:43,000 | 再來請出席的各黨團代表表示意見 |
| 00:34:43,000 | 00:34:48,000 | 首先先請民進黨黨團的洪玉祥委員請發言 |
| 00:34:51,000 | 00:34:56,000 | 好我想這個反實質廢死的一個公投來講的話 |
| 00:34:56,000 | 00:34:59,000 | 其實我們大概是讓人民 |
| 00:34:59,000 | 00:35:04,000 | 用公投去決定一個法治的一個意向 |
| 00:35:04,000 | 00:35:06,000 | 基本上來講的話也就是說 |
| 00:35:06,000 | 00:35:10,000 | 我們常常在社會裡頭看到這些被害人 |
| 00:35:10,000 | 00:35:12,000 | 這些被害人來講的話 |
| 00:35:12,000 | 00:35:14,000 | 他失去的可能是生命 |
| 00:35:14,000 | 00:35:19,000 | 他的家屬可能失去的是一個完整的人生 |
| 00:35:19,000 | 00:35:23,000 | 基本上如果我們的法律對家害者是無限的寬容 |
| 00:35:23,000 | 00:35:27,000 | 要求被害人這個家屬是無限的體量 |
| 00:35:27,000 | 00:35:30,000 | 我覺得這個就不是一個人權 |
| 00:35:30,000 | 00:35:34,000 | 他就是對這種被害者的家屬有一個二次的傷害 |
| 00:35:34,000 | 00:35:37,000 | 既然你犯下一個罪名這樣的犯罪 |
| 00:35:37,000 | 00:35:41,000 | 就必須承擔罪責相當的一個責任 |
| 00:35:41,000 | 00:35:43,000 | 我們主要是強調的是 |
| 00:35:43,000 | 00:35:46,000 | 你被害人已經沒有可能重新開始的機會 |
| 00:35:46,000 | 00:35:51,000 | 基本上我們不能讓守法的人民都害怕法律 |
| 00:35:51,000 | 00:35:54,000 | 然後讓全兄二級的犯罪者相信 |
| 00:35:54,000 | 00:35:57,000 | 不然你放下多殘忍的罪行 |
| 00:35:57,000 | 00:36:01,000 | 國家都會替他保留這個所有的一個可能性 |
| 00:36:01,000 | 00:36:06,000 | 所以我想這個死刑在臺灣也沒有違憲 |
| 00:36:06,000 | 00:36:08,000 | 並沒有被廢除 |
| 00:36:08,000 | 00:36:13,000 | 但是他需要達到各級法官的一致的一個判決 |
| 00:36:13,000 | 00:36:15,000 | 所以基本上來講這個死刑 |
| 00:36:15,000 | 00:36:18,000 | 雖然你判了但是他沒辦法執行 |
| 00:36:18,000 | 00:36:20,000 | 就實質的被架空 |
| 00:36:20,000 | 00:36:23,000 | 可能你把英明法官的反對票 |
| 00:36:23,000 | 00:36:26,000 | 可能就變成整個國家司法制度 |
| 00:36:26,000 | 00:36:29,000 | 他本身的一個絕對的一個否決權 |
| 00:36:29,000 | 00:36:33,000 | 當然這個東西可以交給民眾去決定 |
| 00:36:33,000 | 00:36:35,000 | 也就是說他可能支持這項的公投 |
| 00:36:35,000 | 00:36:37,000 | 但是也不代表這些民眾 |
| 00:36:37,000 | 00:36:40,000 | 他支持不爛的判處的死刑 |
| 00:36:40,000 | 00:36:43,000 | 公投也不是一個所謂的明確的審判 |
| 00:36:43,000 | 00:36:46,000 | 是一個人民對重大的一個刑事的政策 |
| 00:36:46,000 | 00:36:48,000 | 表達他的一個意見 |
| 00:36:48,000 | 00:36:51,000 | 所以這個大概是我們的一個看法 |
| 00:36:51,000 | 00:36:53,000 | 好謝謝黃毓強委員 |
| 00:36:53,000 | 00:36:56,000 | 再來請民進黨的陳培育委員發言 |
| 00:36:56,000 | 00:36:57,000 | 好謝謝主席 |
| 00:36:57,000 | 00:36:59,000 | 根據剛剛國民黨還有民眾黨的發言 |
| 00:36:59,000 | 00:37:02,000 | 看起來今天在這一題上是沒有共識 |
| 00:37:02,000 | 00:37:04,000 | 但我想我要針對剛剛兩位委員的發言 |
| 00:37:04,000 | 00:37:06,000 | 先有一些回饋 |
| 00:37:06,000 | 00:37:07,000 | 第一個剛剛國民黨的委員說 |
| 00:37:07,000 | 00:37:09,000 | 現在就實質的廢死 |
| 00:37:09,000 | 00:37:12,000 | 但是我想要請國民黨的委員先看一下最近的新聞 |
| 00:37:12,000 | 00:37:14,000 | 在2026年的6月5號 |
| 00:37:14,000 | 00:37:19,000 | 6月5號高雄連環殺害分屍三個婦人案被告張圈圈 |
| 00:37:19,000 | 00:37:20,000 | 我就不把名字念出來 |
| 00:37:20,000 | 00:37:23,000 | 國民法官法庭一審判處三個死刑 |
| 00:37:23,000 | 00:37:28,000 | 2026年6月24號康健生計的槍殺四人被告 |
| 00:37:28,000 | 00:37:31,000 | 跟一審一致絕判三個死刑 |
| 00:37:31,000 | 00:37:34,000 | 2026年7月9號新北三重面門案被告 |
| 00:37:34,000 | 00:37:37,000 | 一審國民法官判三個死刑 |
| 00:37:37,000 | 00:37:39,000 | 二審繼續維持三個死刑 |
| 00:37:39,000 | 00:37:41,000 | 以上我剛念的這三個最新的案件 |
| 00:37:41,000 | 00:37:45,000 | 而且是在2026年今年所發生的這三個月裡面 |
| 00:37:45,000 | 00:37:47,000 | 一致絕判死刑的刑事案件 |
| 00:37:47,000 | 00:37:50,000 | 其實有一些甚至是國民法官參與的案件 |
| 00:37:50,000 | 00:37:55,000 | 所以如果按照您剛剛所說的一致絕會造成實質的廢死 |
| 00:37:55,000 | 00:37:57,000 | 那為什麼這些案件還可以判處死刑呢 |
| 00:37:57,000 | 00:37:59,000 | 也就是就算沒有公投 |
| 00:37:59,000 | 00:38:03,000 | 其實在司法實務上還是可以判決死刑 |
| 00:38:03,000 | 00:38:04,000 | 那至於死刑有沒有去執行 |
| 00:38:04,000 | 00:38:06,000 | 剛剛民眾黨的委員剛剛也提到了 |
| 00:38:06,000 | 00:38:10,000 | 我要說我們來看一下台灣最近一次執行死刑 |
| 00:38:10,000 | 00:38:13,000 | 其實在2025年的1月16號有執行過死刑 |
| 00:38:13,000 | 00:38:15,000 | 而且這個死刑的執行呢 |
| 00:38:15,000 | 00:38:17,000 | 甚至是在剛剛兩位委員所說的 |
| 00:38:17,000 | 00:38:22,000 | 113年憲判8出獄之後執行的死刑 |
| 00:38:22,000 | 00:38:25,000 | 也就是根本沒有實質的廢死 |
| 00:38:25,000 | 00:38:27,000 | 剛剛民眾黨的委員自己也脫口而出說 |
| 00:38:27,000 | 00:38:29,000 | 沒有實質廢死 |
| 00:38:29,000 | 00:38:32,000 | 大家可以回頭看剛剛民眾黨委員的發言 |
| 00:38:32,000 | 00:38:35,000 | 如果您自己都非常清楚的知道沒有實質廢死 |
| 00:38:35,000 | 00:38:38,000 | 那到底今天這公投案所為何來 |
| 00:38:38,000 | 00:38:41,000 | 那我知道呢過去一直在協商的時候 |
| 00:38:41,000 | 00:38:45,000 | 常常都會說民進黨為什麼不願意訴諸直接的民意 |
| 00:38:45,000 | 00:38:49,000 | 我們就來看全世界舉行過最多公投 |
| 00:38:49,000 | 00:38:51,000 | 而且最愛公投的國家叫做瑞士 |
| 00:38:51,000 | 00:38:54,000 | 他們從1848年以來到目前為止 |
| 00:38:54,000 | 00:38:58,000 | 大概舉辦過300次的公投各式各樣的題目 |
| 00:38:58,000 | 00:39:00,000 | 那過去呢只有發生過 |
| 00:39:00,000 | 00:39:03,000 | 由瑞士聯邦最高法院的判決 |
| 00:39:03,000 | 00:39:05,000 | 可以推翻公投的結果 |
| 00:39:05,000 | 00:39:10,000 | 從來沒有公投的結果可以去推翻瑞士聯邦最高法院的判決 |
| 00:39:10,000 | 00:39:14,000 | 為什麼我要拜託所有在野黨的大委員們分清楚 |
| 00:39:14,000 | 00:39:17,000 | 這是權力分立的必然結果 |
| 00:39:17,000 | 00:39:21,000 | 如果今天立法院真的覺得自己大到可以干涉所有司法院的事情 |
| 00:39:21,000 | 00:39:23,000 | 司法判決的事情我會說非常的荒謬 |
| 00:39:23,000 | 00:39:27,000 | 那唯一能夠用公決來否定判決機會只有一種 |
| 00:39:27,000 | 00:39:30,000 | 也就是在憲法修正案的公民複決 |
| 00:39:30,000 | 00:39:32,000 | 這個時候才可以回過頭 |
| 00:39:32,000 | 00:39:37,000 | 也就是只有修憲的結果可以向後來推翻判決 |
| 00:39:37,000 | 00:39:40,000 | 所以我要拜託藍白立委不要再 |
| 00:39:40,000 | 00:39:42,000 | 教導民眾一個錯誤的民私 |
| 00:39:42,000 | 00:39:44,000 | 就是所謂的公投最大 |
| 00:39:44,000 | 00:39:48,000 | 或者是公投可以推翻憲法判決這件事情 |
| 00:39:48,000 | 00:39:50,000 | 我要再一次強調 |
| 00:39:50,000 | 00:39:52,000 | 這個事情真的非常非常的荒謬 |
| 00:39:52,000 | 00:39:54,000 | 不過看起來在剛剛兩位委員的發言裡面 |
| 00:39:54,000 | 00:39:56,000 | 我們確實很難有共識 |
| 00:39:56,000 | 00:39:59,000 | 但我想我還是要把民進黨團立場說得非常清楚 |
| 00:39:59,000 | 00:40:01,000 | 一從來都沒有實質的face |
| 00:40:01,000 | 00:40:03,000 | 再來還有這一次的公投案更加的荒謬 |
| 00:40:03,000 | 00:40:06,000 | 其實在2025年的4月跟5月 |
| 00:40:06,000 | 00:40:08,000 | 國民黨你們還記不記得你們自己曾經提出過 |
| 00:40:08,000 | 00:40:10,000 | 同樣的內容公投提案內容 |
| 00:40:10,000 | 00:40:13,000 | 當時不論是中選會或者是民進黨黨團 |
| 00:40:13,000 | 00:40:16,000 | 都曾經對相關的公投案表達意見 |
| 00:40:16,000 | 00:40:20,000 | 一模一樣的公投案你們只是加了局限於這三個字 |
| 00:40:20,000 | 00:40:22,000 | 根本一模一樣的提案 |
| 00:40:22,000 | 00:40:24,000 | 再一次不做功課再一次不思長進 |
| 00:40:24,000 | 00:40:26,000 | 再一次要再度來闖關 |
| 00:40:26,000 | 00:40:28,000 | 想要換取政治紅利 |
| 00:40:28,000 | 00:40:30,000 | 我要說這就是欺騙社會大眾 |
| 00:40:30,000 | 00:40:33,000 | 國民黨或者是民眾黨團最常用的說法 |
| 00:40:33,000 | 00:40:36,000 | 所以我想我要再次強調請大家要做功課 |
| 00:40:36,000 | 00:40:39,000 | 不要只是再次消費炒作這個議題 |
| 00:40:39,000 | 00:40:40,000 | 以上 |
| 00:40:43,000 | 00:40:47,000 | 好再來請國民黨黨團王玉明委員發言 |
| 00:40:47,000 | 00:40:52,000 | 好我不知道什麼時候民進黨這麼害怕公投 |
| 00:40:52,000 | 00:40:54,000 | 過去如果去看民進黨的歷史 |
| 00:40:55,000 | 00:40:58,000 | 一直倡議這個人民當家做主 |
| 00:40:58,000 | 00:41:01,000 | 然後一直倡議應該有公投的就是民進黨 |
| 00:41:01,000 | 00:41:03,000 | 但是拿到執政權之後 |
| 00:41:03,000 | 00:41:07,000 | 面對所有的公投提案都是一再的反對 |
| 00:41:07,000 | 00:41:12,000 | 我覺得一個執政黨其實請聽民意是最重要的事情 |
| 00:41:12,000 | 00:41:19,000 | 那如果這個現在民意表示這個支持死刑 |
| 00:41:19,000 | 00:41:23,000 | 這個民意的支持度是在75%到80% |
| 00:41:23,000 | 00:41:25,000 | 加上最近的一個網路投票 |
| 00:41:25,000 | 00:41:28,000 | 在諸多的這個公投案裡面 |
| 00:41:28,000 | 00:41:33,000 | 這個支持這個反對廢死的這個其實是第一名 |
| 00:41:33,000 | 00:41:35,000 | 那正是民意如此 |
| 00:41:35,000 | 00:41:39,000 | 所以今天國民黨黨團我們提出了這樣的公投案 |
| 00:41:39,000 | 00:41:44,000 | 讓全國的民眾透過公投來表達他們的意見跟看法 |
| 00:41:44,000 | 00:41:48,000 | 也避免少數的幾位的大法官 |
| 00:41:48,000 | 00:41:50,000 | 原來他是支持廢死的 |
| 00:41:50,000 | 00:41:55,000 | 所以他在這個憲判上面去實質架空了 |
| 00:41:55,000 | 00:42:00,000 | 就是他去加嚴了這整個這個死刑判決的一個規定 |
| 00:42:00,000 | 00:42:04,000 | 然後達到實質廢死的這樣的一個目的 |
| 00:42:04,000 | 00:42:08,000 | 我覺得我們國家的政策不能有少數幾位大法官 |
| 00:42:08,000 | 00:42:11,000 | 他們自己的政治的意識形態 |
| 00:42:11,000 | 00:42:13,000 | 或是個人支持廢死這樣的態度 |
| 00:42:13,000 | 00:42:17,000 | 就要全民來支持這樣的一個政策 |
| 00:42:17,000 | 00:42:19,000 | 所以回歸民意 |
| 00:42:19,000 | 00:42:23,000 | 讓人民真正當家作主表達他們的意見 |
| 00:42:23,000 | 00:42:25,000 | 透過這個公投案 |
| 00:42:25,000 | 00:42:30,000 | 你是否同意各級法院和議題法官判處死刑 |
| 00:42:30,000 | 00:42:34,000 | 不應侷限於以自決這樣的政策 |
| 00:42:34,000 | 00:42:37,000 | 那我覺得這個才是一個最公開 |
| 00:42:37,000 | 00:42:41,000 | 而且也最符合民意的一個做法 |
| 00:42:41,000 | 00:42:45,000 | 所以我想民進黨團不要再用荒謬這樣的字眼了 |
| 00:42:45,000 | 00:42:47,000 | 我覺得真正荒謬的就是 |
| 00:42:47,000 | 00:42:50,000 | 民進黨過去大力支持公投 |
| 00:42:50,000 | 00:42:53,000 | 而現在全面的反對公投 |
| 00:42:53,000 | 00:42:55,000 | 這才是史上最荒謬 |
| 00:42:55,000 | 00:42:59,000 | 好謝謝王玉明委員的發言 |
| 00:42:59,000 | 00:43:02,000 | 請問各位委員還有沒有一些意見要表達 |
| 00:43:02,000 | 00:43:04,000 | 好謝謝主席 |
| 00:43:04,000 | 00:43:05,000 | 我就只講一句話 |
| 00:43:05,000 | 00:43:08,000 | 民進黨團從頭到尾沒有反對公投 |
| 00:43:08,000 | 00:43:10,000 | 我再一次強調沒有反對公投 |
| 00:43:10,000 | 00:43:12,000 | 但是國民黨團不願意就事萬事 |
| 00:43:12,000 | 00:43:14,000 | 甚至在去年提出一模一樣的提案 |
| 00:43:14,000 | 00:43:16,000 | 被中選會打臉之後 |
| 00:43:16,000 | 00:43:17,000 | 目前不做功課 |
| 00:43:17,000 | 00:43:20,000 | 所以我想我們沒有反對任何的公投 |
| 00:43:20,000 | 00:43:23,000 | 但如果所有相關公投都只是為了政治操作 |
| 00:43:23,000 | 00:43:24,000 | 而沒有實質利益 |
| 00:43:24,000 | 00:43:26,000 | 甚至相關公投的提案其實透過修法 |
| 00:43:26,000 | 00:43:29,000 | 而且國民黨跟民眾黨再加起來 |
| 00:43:29,000 | 00:43:31,000 | 在國會裡面是多數就可以解決的話 |
| 00:43:31,000 | 00:43:33,000 | 那我們當然覺得公投是非常荒謬 |
| 00:43:33,000 | 00:43:37,000 | 所以再一次強調民進黨團從來沒有反對任何的公投 |
| 00:43:37,000 | 00:43:39,000 | 好請吳曉琳委員 |
| 00:43:39,000 | 00:43:42,000 | 我想上一次中選會 |
| 00:43:42,000 | 00:43:45,000 | 就在前一屆的中選會 |
| 00:43:45,000 | 00:43:47,000 | 是一個荒腔走板的中選會 |
| 00:43:47,000 | 00:43:49,000 | 他根本無權去干預 |
| 00:43:49,000 | 00:43:55,000 | 去對於立法院所提出的公投案進行否決 |
| 00:43:55,000 | 00:43:58,000 | 所以在前一次的中選會 |
| 00:43:58,000 | 00:43:59,000 | 他所做的決定 |
| 00:43:59,000 | 00:44:03,000 | 本來就是一個違憲違法的一個決定 |
| 00:44:03,000 | 00:44:06,000 | 那麼藐視立法院所提出的公投案 |
| 00:44:06,000 | 00:44:08,000 | 這已經是一個非常荒謬的事情 |
| 00:44:08,000 | 00:44:10,000 | 那麼再說就是說 |
| 00:44:10,000 | 00:44:13,000 | 剛剛講這個民進黨政府執政十年 |
| 00:44:13,000 | 00:44:17,000 | 到現在為止我們的執行死刑犯 |
| 00:44:17,000 | 00:44:19,000 | 也不過只有一人 |
| 00:44:19,000 | 00:44:21,000 | 現在還有35個人 |
| 00:44:21,000 | 00:44:23,000 | 基本上是沒有去執行死刑犯的 |
| 00:44:23,000 | 00:44:24,000 | 所以我要強調是說 |
| 00:44:24,000 | 00:44:27,000 | 今天如果說民進黨不反對公投 |
| 00:44:27,000 | 00:44:30,000 | 那待會就大大方方就同意我們這次提出的公投 |
| 00:44:30,000 | 00:44:32,000 | 我們就讓全民來決定 |
| 00:44:32,000 | 00:44:36,000 | 到底憲判自8號判決裡面 |
| 00:44:36,000 | 00:44:39,000 | 所要求的何怡婷法官一致覺得這件事情 |
| 00:44:39,000 | 00:44:41,000 | 是不是能夠被全民接受 |
| 00:44:43,000 | 00:44:46,000 | 好在陳培育委員發言之前 |
| 00:44:46,000 | 00:44:48,000 | 我先介紹在場大常委員 |
| 00:44:48,000 | 00:44:50,000 | 先介紹民眾黨的劉樹斌委員 |
| 00:44:52,000 | 00:44:54,000 | 還有國民黨的洪孟凱委員 |
| 00:44:54,000 | 00:44:58,000 | 好請民進黨的陳培育委員再發言 |
| 00:44:58,000 | 00:45:00,000 | 好謝謝主席 |
| 00:45:00,000 | 00:45:01,000 | 我想民意支持死刑 |
| 00:45:01,000 | 00:45:03,000 | 尤其是對於重大社會案件 |
| 00:45:03,000 | 00:45:04,000 | 這個是大家都有共感的 |
| 00:45:04,000 | 00:45:06,000 | 而且但是我也要提醒 |
| 00:45:06,000 | 00:45:09,000 | 目前法律上是可以判處死刑 |
| 00:45:09,000 | 00:45:12,000 | 而且在執行面也可以執行死刑 |
| 00:45:12,000 | 00:45:14,000 | 我剛剛已經舉了2026年 |
| 00:45:14,000 | 00:45:16,000 | 這最近的三個月的案子 |
| 00:45:16,000 | 00:45:17,000 | 其實說得非常的清楚 |
| 00:45:17,000 | 00:45:21,000 | 至於剛剛在一黨的委員說執行死刑這件事情 |
| 00:45:21,000 | 00:45:22,000 | 那我就要問 |
| 00:45:22,000 | 00:45:26,000 | 在馬英九前總統執政的2008年跟2009年 |
| 00:45:26,000 | 00:45:28,000 | 根本也沒有執行過死刑 |
| 00:45:28,000 | 00:45:32,000 | 所以請問難道你們認為馬英九總統支持廢死嗎 |
| 00:45:32,000 | 00:45:33,000 | 所以我剛剛舉的例子 |
| 00:45:33,000 | 00:45:35,000 | 只是想要告訴在野黨委員 |
| 00:45:35,000 | 00:45:39,000 | 我想就公投案的議案本身這件事情 |
| 00:45:39,000 | 00:45:40,000 | 所有你們提出來的問題 |
| 00:45:40,000 | 00:45:42,000 | 我們都可以實質的回答 |
| 00:45:42,000 | 00:45:45,000 | 所以從來沒有實質廢死這件事情 |
| 00:45:45,000 | 00:45:47,000 | 我要再一次的強調 |
| 00:45:50,000 | 00:45:51,000 | 好 |
| 00:45:51,000 | 00:45:56,000 | 好那其實如果是現在沒有人 |
| 00:45:56,000 | 00:45:58,000 | 就要繼續發言的話 |
| 00:45:58,000 | 00:46:05,000 | 本席宣讀本日協商過程公開發言內容均已錄影並列入紀錄 |
| 00:46:05,000 | 00:46:07,000 | 本案因無法達成共識 |
| 00:46:07,000 | 00:46:13,000 | 會續依立法院職權刑事法第12章相關規定處理 |
| 00:46:13,000 | 00:46:15,000 | 好謝謝各位 |
| 00:46:15,000 | 00:46:17,000 | 再來我們處理第二案 |
| 00:46:17,000 | 00:46:23,000 | 第二案委員洪孟凱等52人擬據公民投票提案 |
| 00:46:23,000 | 00:46:27,000 | 主文維你是否同意政府制定法律 |
| 00:46:27,000 | 00:46:34,000 | 針對性侵害犯罪凌虐幼童罪以及高額詐欺罪 |
| 00:46:34,000 | 00:46:37,000 | 負荷刑態加重詐欺罪 |
| 00:46:37,000 | 00:46:44,000 | 增設由法院宣告並依法執行之特別刑法制度編刑 |
| 00:46:44,000 | 00:46:48,000 | 以嚇阻犯罪持續發生請公決案 |
| 00:46:48,000 | 00:46:56,000 | 本案經115年7月3日第五會期第16次院會決議交付黨團協商 |
| 00:46:56,000 | 00:47:00,000 | 並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商 |
| 00:47:00,000 | 00:47:05,000 | 現在進行協商 |
| 00:47:05,000 | 00:47:09,000 | 協商時請參閱提案關係文書 |
| 00:47:09,000 | 00:47:13,000 | 現在請提案委員洪孟凱先作說明 |
| 00:47:14,000 | 00:47:19,000 | 好感謝主席感謝我們三黨團的一個代表今天出席 |
| 00:47:19,000 | 00:47:26,000 | 這個提案是本席跟我們52位國民黨團的委員全體共同的一個提案 |
| 00:47:26,000 | 00:47:31,000 | 那其實我在這個說明書裡面都寫得非常清楚 |
| 00:47:31,000 | 00:47:34,000 | 本提案是重大政策的公民投票案 |
| 00:47:34,000 | 00:47:39,000 | 有鑒於性侵害虐童以及高額詐欺負荷式詐加重詐欺罪 |
| 00:47:39,000 | 00:47:46,000 | 已經對於全國國人的生命身體性自主財產安全跟社會秩序造成重大的衝擊 |
| 00:47:46,000 | 00:47:54,000 | 那性行的一個行政制度我們的刑罰的一個制度其實已經有所謂的生命型時間型跟財產型 |
| 00:47:54,000 | 00:47:57,000 | 但是我們沒有所謂的身體型 |
| 00:47:57,000 | 00:48:02,000 | 可是在參考其他世界各國包括說新加坡等這個國家 |
| 00:48:02,000 | 00:48:05,000 | 其實他們有所謂的一個兵型的一個部分 |
| 00:48:05,000 | 00:48:11,000 | 那我們也在思考是說當其他國家他的GDP都可以比我們台灣來得高 |
| 00:48:11,000 | 00:48:19,000 | 並且他的治安來講相對來講是非常的讓大家能夠感到安全的 |
| 00:48:19,000 | 00:48:29,000 | 那所以說我們也要來問一下全民是說是不是同意政府針對性侵害虐童詐欺等部分 |
| 00:48:29,000 | 00:48:35,000 | 除了現行罰則以外再思考其他進一步的一個特別行包括邊行等等 |
| 00:48:35,000 | 00:48:40,000 | 那如果說全民能夠同意的話其實這就是一個重大政策的創置 |
| 00:48:40,000 | 00:48:46,000 | 那重大政策的一個創置其實就是公民投票最基本的一個精神跟核心的一個價值 |
| 00:48:46,000 | 00:48:50,000 | 那你認為是說如果說重大政策能夠創置的話 |
| 00:48:50,000 | 00:48:53,000 | 透過公民投票的一個參與 |
| 00:48:53,000 | 00:48:55,000 | 那大家就可以形聚一個共識 |
| 00:48:55,000 | 00:48:59,000 | 也可以讓行政部門立法部門瞭解人民的需求 |
| 00:48:59,000 | 00:49:04,000 | 進一步的來去做後續修法的一個參考跟修法的一個依據 |
| 00:49:04,000 | 00:49:05,000 | 為什麼會這樣提 |
| 00:49:05,000 | 00:49:10,000 | 因為最主要是本席也利用了兩次本席的總質詢時間 |
| 00:49:10,000 | 00:49:15,000 | 詢問過我們現在的行政院院長卓榮泰以及法務部部長 |
| 00:49:15,000 | 00:49:20,000 | 而行政院長以及法務部部長都不支持這樣的一個部分 |
| 00:49:20,000 | 00:49:25,000 | 甚至他們連想要去討論想要去研究想要去了解 |
| 00:49:25,000 | 00:49:33,000 | 其他國家針對詐騙性侵略同的一個更加重的一個處事都不願意來去做 |
| 00:49:33,000 | 00:49:37,000 | 而好像覺得是說現在的一個刑責就已經夠了 |
| 00:49:37,000 | 00:49:42,000 | 那我想如果說現在覺得已經夠的話就不會詐騙案件還是層出不窮 |
| 00:49:42,000 | 00:49:48,000 | 大家看一下2024年我們的詐騙金額高達1300億台幣 |
| 00:49:48,000 | 00:49:54,000 | 2025年詐騙案的金額高達近900億台幣 |
| 00:49:54,000 | 00:49:59,000 | 2026年現在統計到7月的時候也有好幾百萬 |
| 00:49:59,000 | 00:50:03,000 | 所以現行的罰則現行的刑責已經在進行中 |
| 00:50:03,000 | 00:50:07,000 | 但還是每天都有超過兩億元的詐騙金額的時候 |
| 00:50:07,000 | 00:50:13,000 | 我想這已經不是政黨之分這已經不是在野執政的責任 |
| 00:50:13,000 | 00:50:15,000 | 而是大家共同應該要去思考是說 |
| 00:50:15,000 | 00:50:18,000 | 我們要不要針對這樣子的一個重大犯罪 |
| 00:50:18,000 | 00:50:23,000 | 保障人民的生命財產安全來去做一個更有效的嚇阻 |
| 00:50:23,000 | 00:50:28,000 | 我再次強調我絕對尊重人權我也絕對捍衛人權 |
| 00:50:28,000 | 00:50:35,000 | 但我所捍衛的跟尊重的是99.9%無辜善良受害者的人權 |
| 00:50:35,000 | 00:50:41,000 | 是奉公守法民眾的人權而絕對不是加害者的人權 |
| 00:50:41,000 | 00:50:48,000 | 所以在捍衛全體國民捍衛奉公守法民眾的人權的當下 |
| 00:50:48,000 | 00:50:54,000 | 我認為政府應該對於這些窮出不窮最大惡極的犯罪 |
| 00:50:54,000 | 00:50:59,000 | 性侵虐童詐騙要去思考更有效的方式來對付 |
| 00:50:59,000 | 00:51:02,000 | 來嚇阻來讓他們不敢再犯 |
| 00:51:02,000 | 00:51:08,000 | 如果他們犯了我們國家也有公權力能夠讓他們付出應有代價 |
| 00:51:08,000 | 00:51:14,000 | 這是本席以及我們52位委員所提案的一個提案初衷 |
| 00:51:14,000 | 00:51:18,000 | 那再懇請我們黨團三位黨團的代表都能夠共同支持 |
| 00:51:18,000 | 00:51:20,000 | 以上謝謝 |
| 00:51:20,000 | 00:51:26,000 | 好再來請民眾黨黨團劉樹斌委員 |
| 00:51:26,000 | 00:51:33,000 | 好我們知道這個議題的產生就是邊行公投的議題產生 |
| 00:51:33,000 | 00:51:39,000 | 可以看出來說這是民眾包括是以國民黨為代表提出來說 |
| 00:51:39,000 | 00:51:43,000 | 是大眾對於重大犯罪的這樣憤怒 |
| 00:51:43,000 | 00:51:47,000 | 也表示說對社會治安的一種渴望 |
| 00:51:47,000 | 00:51:53,000 | 不過我們也知道說邊行它會涉及到就是說我國的一些憲法上面的人身自由保障 |
| 00:51:53,000 | 00:51:55,000 | 跟國際人權公約的適應等等 |
| 00:51:55,000 | 00:51:58,000 | 那還有包括其他可能形式制度的這些改革 |
| 00:51:58,000 | 00:52:04,000 | 但是作為一個公投一個全民的直接民意的表達這一部分 |
| 00:52:04,000 | 00:52:07,000 | 這樣的一個意見表達我覺得應該被尊重 |
| 00:52:07,000 | 00:52:13,000 | 那他的一個審議結果我們就會尊重的是中選會的一個審議 |
| 00:52:13,000 | 00:52:15,000 | 中選會的審議看他的一個結果是怎麼樣 |
| 00:52:15,000 | 00:52:19,000 | 那其他的部分那這個探求民意的這個結果 |
| 00:52:19,000 | 00:52:22,000 | 就希望說在中選會的審討之下 |
| 00:52:22,000 | 00:52:26,000 | 那就有機會也是反映出在這種民意的一種選項這樣子謝謝 |
| 00:52:28,000 | 00:52:31,000 | 好再來請民進黨的陳培議委員 |
| 00:52:37,000 | 00:52:40,000 | 剛剛洪孟凱委員的發言提到在意人權這件事情 |
| 00:52:40,000 | 00:52:42,000 | 非常謝謝洪委員特別提出來 |
| 00:52:42,000 | 00:52:44,000 | 剛剛劉樹斌委員特別提到 |
| 00:52:44,000 | 00:52:50,000 | 確實是在馬英九總統的任內把兩公約的相關意旨已經內國法化 |
| 00:52:50,000 | 00:52:56,000 | 所以我相信相關的人權或者是反酷刑這件事情應該在所有的委員心中 |
| 00:52:56,000 | 00:53:00,000 | 是一個非常重要的界線這個我想是大家都有共識的 |
| 00:53:00,000 | 00:53:04,000 | 那可是回過頭來看確實這一次洪孟凱委員還有國民黨團的提案 |
| 00:53:04,000 | 00:53:07,000 | 確實是符合所謂公投法的創置的部分 |
| 00:53:07,000 | 00:53:10,000 | 那既然是創置的部分回到我們的工作崗位上 |
| 00:53:10,000 | 00:53:12,000 | 其實我們是立法委員 |
| 00:53:12,000 | 00:53:16,000 | 立法委員其實不只可以修相關的法案內容 |
| 00:53:16,000 | 00:53:18,000 | 我們其實也可以立新的法 |
| 00:53:18,000 | 00:53:20,000 | 甚至我們覺得有重要的事情 |
| 00:53:20,000 | 00:53:22,000 | 有相關重要的民意反應 |
| 00:53:22,000 | 00:53:24,000 | 也都可以跟行政院積極的討論 |
| 00:53:24,000 | 00:53:28,000 | 所以我想這一次的部分我還是希望可以跟國民黨團討論 |
| 00:53:28,000 | 00:53:32,000 | 我認為這一次的公投提案其實是新增刑法的方式 |
| 00:53:32,000 | 00:53:35,000 | 所以到底有沒有針對所謂新加坡或是其他國家 |
| 00:53:35,000 | 00:53:37,000 | 因為剛剛洪孟凱委員舉例的新加坡 |
| 00:53:37,000 | 00:53:41,000 | 我們等一下來看其他國家如何看待邊行這件事情 |
| 00:53:41,000 | 00:53:44,000 | 那我認為其實我們真的可以積極的要求法務部或是司法院 |
| 00:53:44,000 | 00:53:46,000 | 或是相關行政院跨部會的單位 |
| 00:53:46,000 | 00:53:50,000 | 去研究其他國家的邊行制度相關的配套 |
| 00:53:50,000 | 00:53:52,000 | 例如說執行人的訓練 |
| 00:53:52,000 | 00:53:54,000 | 大家知道在執行相關酷刑的時候 |
| 00:53:54,000 | 00:53:57,000 | 執行人的心理素養非常重要 |
| 00:53:57,000 | 00:54:00,000 | 還有後續國家制度給予他的支持 |
| 00:54:00,000 | 00:54:02,000 | 還有相關執行場所的方案 |
| 00:54:02,000 | 00:54:05,000 | 大家可能覺得有需要討論到這麼細的部分嗎 |
| 00:54:05,000 | 00:54:06,000 | 因為我真的非常擔心 |
| 00:54:06,000 | 00:54:10,000 | 如果到最後相關的公投提案進入中選會 |
| 00:54:10,000 | 00:54:14,000 | 那中選會最後也審議覺得可以進入公投之後 |
| 00:54:14,000 | 00:54:16,000 | 相關這些配套內容其實都還是要回到 |
| 00:54:16,000 | 00:54:20,000 | 立法院在實質對行政機關的監督 |
| 00:54:20,000 | 00:54:23,000 | 而這些監督的方案跟未來配套的想像 |
| 00:54:23,000 | 00:54:25,000 | 如果現在所有提案的委員沒有進行討論 |
| 00:54:25,000 | 00:54:27,000 | 我會覺得非常的可惜 |
| 00:54:27,000 | 00:54:31,000 | 其實我們自己會為立法委員所可以發揮的影響力跟擴散力 |
| 00:54:31,000 | 00:54:34,000 | 還有就是這整套刑法體系要不要跟著修正 |
| 00:54:34,000 | 00:54:36,000 | 因為它既然是新增刑法的部分 |
| 00:54:36,000 | 00:54:39,000 | 如果相關的修正沒有去進行評估 |
| 00:54:39,000 | 00:54:40,000 | 沒有進行討論 |
| 00:54:40,000 | 00:54:44,000 | 甚至沒有找過相關刑事或者是犯罪學專家來開會討論 |
| 00:54:44,000 | 00:54:46,000 | 我會認為其實非常的可惜 |
| 00:54:46,000 | 00:54:49,000 | 因為如果只有訴諸民意這件事情 |
| 00:54:49,000 | 00:54:51,000 | 會不會導致越後政策的摯愛難行 |
| 00:54:51,000 | 00:54:55,000 | 那所以我還是希望這一黨委員可以三思 |
| 00:54:55,000 | 00:54:57,000 | 對於保障相關的人權大家都很在意 |
| 00:54:57,000 | 00:54:59,000 | 同時對於所謂的性侵害犯罪 |
| 00:54:59,000 | 00:55:04,000 | 零念幼童罪、高額詐欺罪、負荷形態加重詐欺罪 |
| 00:55:04,000 | 00:55:08,000 | 大家對相關犯罪的深惡痛絕應該也都是一致的 |
| 00:55:08,000 | 00:55:10,000 | 那如果在這麼多一致的情況下 |
| 00:55:10,000 | 00:55:12,000 | 是不是真的要訴諸公投這件事情 |
| 00:55:12,000 | 00:55:15,000 | 其實真的如同剛剛劉樹斌委員也說了 |
| 00:55:15,000 | 00:55:17,000 | 訴諸民意是一個可能性 |
| 00:55:17,000 | 00:55:20,000 | 但我們中間還得透過中選會相關審議 |
| 00:55:20,000 | 00:55:23,000 | 因為在光頭法裡面其實也有相關的規定 |
| 00:55:23,000 | 00:55:26,000 | 並不是中選會會否定立法院的提案 |
| 00:55:26,000 | 00:55:28,000 | 而是他們本來就要做一般的評估 |
| 00:55:28,000 | 00:55:30,000 | 那我想在這個前提底下 |
| 00:55:30,000 | 00:55:32,000 | 我覺得還是有些討論的空間喔 |
| 00:55:32,000 | 00:55:33,000 | 以上 |
| 00:55:35,000 | 00:55:38,000 | 好請問各位委員有沒有要發言表示意見 |
| 00:55:40,000 | 00:55:41,000 | 如果沒有的話 |
| 00:55:41,000 | 00:55:43,000 | 那本日的協商過程公開 |
| 00:55:43,000 | 00:55:48,000 | 內容發言均已錄影並列入記錄 |
| 00:55:48,000 | 00:55:50,000 | 本案因無法達成共識 |
| 00:55:50,000 | 00:55:55,000 | 後續依立法院職權行使法第十二章相關規定處理 |
| 00:55:55,000 | 00:55:56,000 | 謝謝各位 |
| 00:56:08,000 | 00:56:11,000 | 好我們現在進入第三案 |
| 00:56:11,000 | 00:56:16,000 | 協商國民黨黨團擬具公民投票主題案 |
| 00:56:16,000 | 00:56:21,000 | 主文為你是否同意政府廢除非核家園的能源政策 |
| 00:56:21,000 | 00:56:24,000 | 以確保國民健康穩定供電 |
| 00:56:24,000 | 00:56:30,000 | 便宜電價提升國防韌性及支持人工智慧產業發展 |
| 00:56:30,000 | 00:56:31,000 | 請公決案 |
| 00:56:31,000 | 00:56:36,000 | 本案於115年7月14號第五會期第17次院會 |
| 00:56:36,000 | 00:56:39,000 | 決議交付黨團協商 |
| 00:56:39,000 | 00:56:42,000 | 並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商 |
| 00:56:43,000 | 00:56:49,000 | 那我們現在請提案的國民黨黨團代表說明 |
| 00:56:50,000 | 00:56:52,000 | 好主席大家好 |
| 00:56:52,000 | 00:56:58,000 | 有關於國民黨黨團我們提出廢除非核家園能源政策的 |
| 00:56:58,000 | 00:57:00,000 | 這個公投提案 |
| 00:57:00,000 | 00:57:02,000 | 至為關鍵 |
| 00:57:02,000 | 00:57:04,000 | 為什麼說至為關鍵 |
| 00:57:04,000 | 00:57:08,000 | 我要說的是錯誤的政策比貪污還要可怕 |
| 00:57:08,000 | 00:57:10,000 | 而民進黨執政以來 |
| 00:57:10,000 | 00:57:14,000 | 他高喊這個非核家園 |
| 00:57:14,000 | 00:57:19,000 | 而且他們之前也透過第九屆這個國會的優勢 |
| 00:57:19,000 | 00:57:24,000 | 其實通過了這個整個非核家園持續推進的進程 |
| 00:57:24,000 | 00:57:29,000 | 但是他們完全忽略了世界的趨勢 |
| 00:57:29,000 | 00:57:34,000 | 忽略了台灣整個我們的工業的進展跟發展 |
| 00:57:34,000 | 00:57:40,000 | 還有我們整個半導體跟AI產業的這樣的一個發展跟用電的需求 |
| 00:57:40,000 | 00:57:47,000 | 所以他們曾經自己高喊說他的非核家園政策已經達到了 |
| 00:57:47,000 | 00:57:50,000 | 但是很快就被自己打臉了 |
| 00:57:50,000 | 00:57:54,000 | 就是台灣的能源供應已經出現了缺口 |
| 00:57:54,000 | 00:57:57,000 | 他們在2023年的時候 |
| 00:57:57,000 | 00:58:00,000 | 其實竟然去限制了這個用電 |
| 00:58:00,000 | 00:58:03,000 | 5MW以上的你只要是在北區 |
| 00:58:03,000 | 00:58:05,000 | 你要設資料中心的 |
| 00:58:05,000 | 00:58:07,000 | 他其實是不允許的 |
| 00:58:07,000 | 00:58:10,000 | 因為為什麼最大原因就是電不夠了 |
| 00:58:10,000 | 00:58:12,000 | 那直到最近他們發現 |
| 00:58:12,000 | 00:58:15,000 | 核三廠這個有望在重啟之後 |
| 00:58:15,000 | 00:58:17,000 | 開始又要去鬆綁 |
| 00:58:17,000 | 00:58:22,000 | 所以錯誤的政策我只能說真的比貪污還要可怕 |
| 00:58:22,000 | 00:58:25,000 | 他讓很多企業在發展過程當中 |
| 00:58:25,000 | 00:58:29,000 | 非常的擔心他們的這個用電是不足的 |
| 00:58:29,000 | 00:58:33,000 | 那特別是台積電這個張忠謀 |
| 00:58:33,000 | 00:58:35,000 | 這個之前就一再的提醒 |
| 00:58:35,000 | 00:58:37,000 | 就是用電的問題 |
| 00:58:37,000 | 00:58:38,000 | 用電的問題 |
| 00:58:38,000 | 00:58:42,000 | 但是民進黨這個錯誤的非核家園政策 |
| 00:58:42,000 | 00:58:46,000 | 導致了台灣我們在有效減碳上面 |
| 00:58:46,000 | 00:58:50,000 | 其實也是非常在國際上的排名 |
| 00:58:50,000 | 00:58:51,000 | 也是非常的差 |
| 00:58:51,000 | 00:58:53,000 | 因為我們持續用燃煤 |
| 00:58:53,000 | 00:58:55,000 | 持續用天然氣 |
| 00:58:55,000 | 00:58:59,000 | 來作為我們重要的能源的一個選項 |
| 00:58:59,000 | 00:59:02,000 | 那所以這次國民黨我們提出來的 |
| 00:59:02,000 | 00:59:05,000 | 這一個很明確的去廢除掉 |
| 00:59:05,000 | 00:59:07,000 | 非核家園的能源政策 |
| 00:59:07,000 | 00:59:09,000 | 就是台灣下一個階段 |
| 00:59:09,000 | 00:59:11,000 | 非常關鍵的一步 |
| 00:59:11,000 | 00:59:14,000 | 因為現在你可以看到行政院想轉彎 |
| 00:59:14,000 | 00:59:17,000 | 但是又一再重申說要核安無虞 |
| 00:59:17,000 | 00:59:19,000 | 核廢油解社會共識 |
| 00:59:19,000 | 00:59:21,000 | 然後享用核電 |
| 00:59:21,000 | 00:59:24,000 | 但是又設下了非常多的條件 |
| 00:59:24,000 | 00:59:26,000 | 不敢立刻轉彎 |
| 00:59:26,000 | 00:59:28,000 | 但是你現在看看世界各國 |
| 00:59:28,000 | 00:59:30,000 | 針對能源的缺乏 |
| 00:59:30,000 | 00:59:32,000 | 核電就是已經變成是 |
| 00:59:32,000 | 00:59:35,000 | 沒有辦法去排除的選項 |
| 00:59:35,000 | 00:59:38,000 | 因為現在的整個碳排的問題 |
| 00:59:38,000 | 00:59:40,000 | 非常非常的嚴重 |
| 00:59:40,000 | 00:59:42,000 | 所以現在國際上的趨勢 |
| 00:59:42,000 | 00:59:44,000 | 沒有人在講非核 |
| 00:59:44,000 | 00:59:47,000 | 只有在講希望是零碳 |
| 00:59:47,000 | 00:59:49,000 | 所以在這樣的一個情況底下 |
| 00:59:49,000 | 00:59:51,000 | 國民黨這一次我們很負責任的 |
| 00:59:51,000 | 00:59:52,000 | 雖然我們是在野黨 |
| 00:59:52,000 | 00:59:55,000 | 但是我們關心國家重大的能源政策 |
| 00:59:55,000 | 00:59:57,000 | 我們提出來了 |
| 00:59:57,000 | 00:59:59,000 | 就是您是否同意政府 |
| 00:59:59,000 | 01:00:01,000 | 廢除非核家園的能源政策 |
| 01:00:01,000 | 01:00:04,000 | 再確保穩定供電 |
| 01:00:04,000 | 01:00:05,000 | 便宜電價 |
| 01:00:05,000 | 01:00:07,000 | 還有提升國防韌性 |
| 01:00:07,000 | 01:00:10,000 | 支持人工智慧產業發展 |
| 01:00:10,000 | 01:00:13,000 | 然後希望尋求人民最大的共識 |
| 01:00:13,000 | 01:00:16,000 | 也希望讓民進黨政府知道說 |
| 01:00:16,000 | 01:00:18,000 | 真正的民意在哪裡 |
| 01:00:18,000 | 01:00:20,000 | 把這個錯誤的 |
| 01:00:20,000 | 01:00:22,000 | 非核家園的這項能源政策 |
| 01:00:22,000 | 01:00:25,000 | 就完完全全的透過這次公投 |
| 01:00:25,000 | 01:00:27,000 | 可以完全的廢除 |
| 01:00:27,000 | 01:00:30,000 | 然後讓能源成為未來我們國家 |
| 01:00:30,000 | 01:00:33,000 | 重要的能源選項之一謝謝 |
| 01:00:33,000 | 01:00:35,000 | 好謝謝王宇民委員 |
| 01:00:35,000 | 01:00:37,000 | 再來請洪玉祥委員發言 |
| 01:00:37,000 | 01:00:42,000 | 好我想這個台灣的一個能源政策 |
| 01:00:42,000 | 01:00:46,000 | 不應該是一個被政黨意識形態綁架的 |
| 01:00:46,000 | 01:00:49,000 | 尤其是這個非核家園 |
| 01:00:49,000 | 01:00:52,000 | 這樣子的一個錯誤的政策 |
| 01:00:52,000 | 01:00:55,000 | 因為台灣你要我們發展人工智慧半導體 |
| 01:00:55,000 | 01:00:56,000 | 先進製造 |
| 01:00:56,000 | 01:00:59,000 | 事實上我們要的其實是足夠的電力 |
| 01:00:59,000 | 01:01:02,000 | 而且要stable 是要穩定的 |
| 01:01:02,000 | 01:01:04,000 | 基本上它的缺電 |
| 01:01:04,000 | 01:01:07,000 | 基本上也不是說能源報表上面 |
| 01:01:07,000 | 01:01:09,000 | 少了一個百分點 |
| 01:01:09,000 | 01:01:11,000 | 缺電的話你如果在現場就知道 |
| 01:01:11,000 | 01:01:13,000 | 它就是一條停擺的產線 |
| 01:01:13,000 | 01:01:16,000 | 有可能是幾張流失的國際的訂單 |
| 01:01:16,000 | 01:01:19,000 | 可能也是一家撐不下去的中小企業 |
| 01:01:19,000 | 01:01:21,000 | 那可能會導致我們一些勞工 |
| 01:01:21,000 | 01:01:23,000 | 失去這樣的工作 |
| 01:01:23,000 | 01:01:25,000 | 所以我覺得台灣是需要一個穩定 |
| 01:01:25,000 | 01:01:28,000 | 可靠的一個這樣子的電路的來源 |
| 01:01:28,000 | 01:01:31,000 | 所以我覺得一個負責任能源的政策 |
| 01:01:31,000 | 01:01:34,000 | 事實上是一個hybrid混合 |
| 01:01:34,000 | 01:01:36,000 | 你可能是核能、綠能、儲能 |
| 01:01:36,000 | 01:01:39,000 | 跟其他電源的一個相互的搭配 |
| 01:01:39,000 | 01:01:43,000 | 那廢除這個非核家園的話 |
| 01:01:43,000 | 01:01:45,000 | 我覺得或者是像我們這個 |
| 01:01:45,000 | 01:01:47,000 | 核山的重啟 |
| 01:01:47,000 | 01:01:50,000 | 其實也在挽救我們的一個減碳的效果 |
| 01:01:50,000 | 01:01:53,000 | 因為其實當我們把這一個核電廢掉之後 |
| 01:01:53,000 | 01:01:56,000 | 其實我們台灣的藍煤加燃氣的發電量 |
| 01:01:56,000 | 01:01:58,000 | 超過了八成 |
| 01:01:58,000 | 01:02:01,000 | 所以我的這個廠商的碳排的一個係數 |
| 01:02:01,000 | 01:02:02,000 | 一直在升高 |
| 01:02:02,000 | 01:02:04,000 | 然後再升能源在我們多次的經濟委員會 |
| 01:02:04,000 | 01:02:06,000 | 一直跳票 |
| 01:02:06,000 | 01:02:08,000 | 20%達不到,休存16% |
| 01:02:08,000 | 01:02:10,000 | 16%達不到,休15% |
| 01:02:10,000 | 01:02:12,000 | 我們今年最近的運他 |
| 01:02:12,000 | 01:02:15,000 | 每個月的時候勉強很開心的時候可以到14% |
| 01:02:15,000 | 01:02:17,000 | 我就不曉得在開心什麼 |
| 01:02:17,000 | 01:02:19,000 | 所以當這個東西來講的話 |
| 01:02:19,000 | 01:02:21,000 | 你把這個核電廢除 |
| 01:02:21,000 | 01:02:23,000 | 然後大陸發展光電 |
| 01:02:23,000 | 01:02:25,000 | 然後又達不到既定的目標 |
| 01:02:25,000 | 01:02:28,000 | 然後到我們山也光電,水也光電 |
| 01:02:28,000 | 01:02:31,000 | 農地也光電,魚園也光電 |
| 01:02:31,000 | 01:02:34,000 | 現在新的住居建宅的屋頂上面 |
| 01:02:34,000 | 01:02:36,000 | 也都要是光電 |
| 01:02:36,000 | 01:02:37,000 | 那這些東西來講 |
| 01:02:37,000 | 01:02:40,000 | 我就覺得為什麼不是一個 |
| 01:02:40,000 | 01:02:43,000 | 混合的,有效的能源的健康的政策 |
| 01:02:43,000 | 01:02:46,000 | 那就是因為這樣子的一個口號 |
| 01:02:46,000 | 01:02:49,000 | 其實主要我們台灣的穩定的能源的發展 |
| 01:02:49,000 | 01:02:52,000 | 以及我們邁向真正廠商 |
| 01:02:52,000 | 01:02:55,000 | 在面對這個CBA,CBAM的 |
| 01:02:55,000 | 01:02:57,000 | 這樣子的一個碳稅的高電量 |
| 01:02:57,000 | 01:02:59,000 | 所面臨到一個阻礙 |
| 01:02:59,000 | 01:03:02,000 | 所以我覺得這個東西 |
| 01:03:02,000 | 01:03:04,000 | 能源的政策是一個比較科學 |
| 01:03:04,000 | 01:03:06,000 | 務實的一個角度來看待 |
| 01:03:06,000 | 01:03:08,000 | 我們並不是說 |
| 01:03:08,000 | 01:03:11,000 | 我今天要支持這個核能 |
| 01:03:11,000 | 01:03:13,000 | 然後就不顧核能的安全 |
| 01:03:13,000 | 01:03:15,000 | 而是說台灣需要一個混合的 |
| 01:03:15,000 | 01:03:17,000 | 也是要支持綠電 |
| 01:03:17,000 | 01:03:20,000 | 但是基本上就是在一個過渡的時期 |
| 01:03:20,000 | 01:03:24,000 | 你怎麼讓台灣有一個穩定的電力的發展 |
| 01:03:24,000 | 01:03:28,000 | 那我覺得先把這個非核家園 |
| 01:03:28,000 | 01:03:30,000 | 這樣子的一個錯誤的口號政策 |
| 01:03:30,000 | 01:03:32,000 | 先把它移除掉 |
| 01:03:32,000 | 01:03:34,000 | 以上是本黨的看法 |
| 01:03:34,000 | 01:03:36,000 | 好,謝謝黃副小委員 |
| 01:03:36,000 | 01:03:38,000 | 再來請民進黨的陳培裕委員 |
| 01:03:38,000 | 01:03:39,000 | 好,謝謝主席 |
| 01:03:39,000 | 01:03:41,000 | 我們先來看一下這一次 |
| 01:03:41,000 | 01:03:44,000 | 這個國民黨團提案的公投主文 |
| 01:03:44,000 | 01:03:46,000 | 寫了五項美好的承諾 |
| 01:03:46,000 | 01:03:47,000 | 第一個叫國民健康 |
| 01:03:47,000 | 01:03:48,000 | 第二個叫穩定供電 |
| 01:03:48,000 | 01:03:50,000 | 第三個叫便宜電價 |
| 01:03:50,000 | 01:03:52,000 | 第四個叫國防韌性 |
| 01:03:52,000 | 01:03:54,000 | 第五個叫AI產業發展 |
| 01:03:54,000 | 01:03:56,000 | 把這五個看起來非常美好的 |
| 01:03:56,000 | 01:03:58,000 | 不論是經濟的發展 |
| 01:03:58,000 | 01:04:00,000 | 然後或是能源的發展、產業的發展 |
| 01:04:00,000 | 01:04:02,000 | 一次捆綁在所謂的 |
| 01:04:02,000 | 01:04:05,000 | 廢除、非核家園這個選項上 |
| 01:04:05,000 | 01:04:07,000 | 其實在暗示我們的選民說 |
| 01:04:07,000 | 01:04:08,000 | 只要投下同意票 |
| 01:04:08,000 | 01:04:10,000 | 所有問題都可以一起解決 |
| 01:04:10,000 | 01:04:12,000 | 其實一個負責任的政黨 |
| 01:04:12,000 | 01:04:14,000 | 而且甚至過去是長期執政的 |
| 01:04:14,000 | 01:04:17,000 | 國民黨真的是非常的不負責任 |
| 01:04:17,000 | 01:04:19,000 | 從來沒有一個事情可以簡單被解決 |
| 01:04:19,000 | 01:04:22,000 | 那我要說選民對這五項議題 |
| 01:04:22,000 | 01:04:24,000 | 跟這所謂美好的五項承諾 |
| 01:04:24,000 | 01:04:26,000 | 都可能會有不同的看法 |
| 01:04:26,000 | 01:04:28,000 | 可是現在被捆綁在一起 |
| 01:04:28,000 | 01:04:29,000 | 看起來就只能一次表態 |
| 01:04:29,000 | 01:04:32,000 | 我認為這是一種誘導式主文取得的多數 |
| 01:04:32,000 | 01:04:34,000 | 真的不能代表社會對核能有共識 |
| 01:04:34,000 | 01:04:36,000 | 接下來我要說 |
| 01:04:36,000 | 01:04:39,000 | 剛剛已經離開的王毅明委員特別提到說 |
| 01:04:39,000 | 01:04:42,000 | 民進黨只要講到核能就會提三個前提 |
| 01:04:42,000 | 01:04:45,000 | 我要說那三個前提是負責任的前提 |
| 01:04:45,000 | 01:04:49,000 | 也就是核安無虞、核廢有解、社會有共識 |
| 01:04:49,000 | 01:04:52,000 | 我要問難道國民黨認為核廢不應解嗎? |
| 01:04:52,000 | 01:04:54,000 | 社會不應有共識嗎? |
| 01:04:54,000 | 01:04:55,000 | 如果社會不需要有共識 |
| 01:04:55,000 | 01:04:57,000 | 為什麼現在要提公投呢? |
| 01:04:57,000 | 01:04:59,000 | 甚至是核安這件事情難道不是議題嗎? |
| 01:04:59,000 | 01:05:03,000 | 所以我要說所謂的核安無虞、核廢有解、社會有共識 |
| 01:05:03,000 | 01:05:05,000 | 這是負責任的說法 |
| 01:05:05,000 | 01:05:07,000 | 這從來都不是王毅明委員口中的口號 |
| 01:05:07,000 | 01:05:09,000 | 我要再一次的強調 |
| 01:05:09,000 | 01:05:12,000 | 我們負責任的提出對於核安相關議題的想法 |
| 01:05:12,000 | 01:05:14,000 | 跟政策的解放 |
| 01:05:14,000 | 01:05:16,000 | 我們當然也需要地方政府的支持 |
| 01:05:16,000 | 01:05:18,000 | 尤其在核廢議題上 |
| 01:05:18,000 | 01:05:20,000 | 接下來呢我要說 |
| 01:05:20,000 | 01:05:24,000 | 除了這個主文有誘導式的投票傾向之外 |
| 01:05:24,000 | 01:05:26,000 | 我要說在法治上 |
| 01:05:26,000 | 01:05:31,000 | 根本就早就已經沒有非核家園期程可廢了 |
| 01:05:31,000 | 01:05:33,000 | 這個案子根本就是空殼公投 |
| 01:05:33,000 | 01:05:35,000 | 我要再次強調 |
| 01:05:35,000 | 01:05:37,000 | 這個提案根本就是空殼公投 |
| 01:05:37,000 | 01:05:41,000 | 因為在2018年以核養綠的公投案通過之後 |
| 01:05:41,000 | 01:05:43,000 | 編列法第95條第一項 |
| 01:05:43,000 | 01:05:47,000 | 核能發電設備因於114年以前 |
| 01:05:47,000 | 01:05:49,000 | 全部停止運作的條文 |
| 01:05:49,000 | 01:05:52,000 | 已經在2019年的5月 |
| 01:05:52,000 | 01:05:55,000 | 被立法院三讀刪除之後 |
| 01:05:55,000 | 01:05:58,000 | 法律上早就沒有廢核的時間表了 |
| 01:05:58,000 | 01:06:00,000 | 這是極其清楚 |
| 01:06:00,000 | 01:06:02,000 | 相關歷史官報都可以查得到 |
| 01:06:02,000 | 01:06:04,000 | 不知道為什麼國民黨跟民眾黨的委員 |
| 01:06:04,000 | 01:06:07,000 | 還在談所謂的廢核期程 |
| 01:06:07,000 | 01:06:08,000 | 第二個我要提醒大家 |
| 01:06:08,000 | 01:06:12,000 | 2025年也就在去年的5月13號 |
| 01:06:12,000 | 01:06:14,000 | 我們立法院自己三讀 |
| 01:06:14,000 | 01:06:17,000 | 通過了核子反應器設施管制法 |
| 01:06:17,000 | 01:06:19,000 | 第六條修正案 |
| 01:06:19,000 | 01:06:22,000 | 在第三項明定運轉執照戒滿後 |
| 01:06:22,000 | 01:06:26,000 | 得申請換發執照繼續運轉 |
| 01:06:26,000 | 01:06:28,000 | 相關主管機關核安會 |
| 01:06:28,000 | 01:06:30,000 | 也在2025年的10月8號 |
| 01:06:30,000 | 01:06:34,000 | 公告修正了核子反應器設施運轉執照 |
| 01:06:34,000 | 01:06:35,000 | 申請審核辦法 |
| 01:06:35,000 | 01:06:38,000 | 明面就增定了輻射議題還有耐震 |
| 01:06:38,000 | 01:06:41,000 | 安全的評估再運轉的計畫 |
| 01:06:41,000 | 01:06:44,000 | 還有執行結果報告跟換照的辦法 |
| 01:06:44,000 | 01:06:46,000 | 也就是相關的法源 |
| 01:06:46,000 | 01:06:47,000 | 在立法院三讀通過 |
| 01:06:47,000 | 01:06:52,000 | 相關的子法核安會負責的修訂完成 |
| 01:06:52,000 | 01:06:55,000 | 相關的審查程序也已經完備 |
| 01:06:55,000 | 01:06:58,000 | 所以剛剛國民黨所說的非核家園 |
| 01:06:58,000 | 01:07:00,000 | 擋住核電根本也不是事實 |
| 01:07:00,000 | 01:07:03,000 | 明明行政單位配合立法院 |
| 01:07:03,000 | 01:07:06,000 | 已經在做的事情就已經在進行 |
| 01:07:06,000 | 01:07:07,000 | 第三個我要說 |
| 01:07:07,000 | 01:07:09,000 | 在野黨在立法院居多數 |
| 01:07:09,000 | 01:07:13,000 | 如果你們真的認為相關的子法法源 |
| 01:07:13,000 | 01:07:16,000 | 或是相關的審查程序都應該要繼續修正 |
| 01:07:16,000 | 01:07:17,000 | 繼續討論 |
| 01:07:17,000 | 01:07:19,000 | 其實提案修法就可以了 |
| 01:07:19,000 | 01:07:21,000 | 那如果按照官民投票法 |
| 01:07:21,000 | 01:07:23,000 | 重大政策公投縱使通過 |
| 01:07:23,000 | 01:07:27,000 | 也必須要另循修法程序才有相關效力 |
| 01:07:27,000 | 01:07:31,000 | 也就是公投辦法本身沒有辦法更改法律狀態 |
| 01:07:31,000 | 01:07:32,000 | 所以我剛剛說的 |
| 01:07:32,000 | 01:07:34,000 | 不僅現在已經沒有費核的時間表 |
| 01:07:34,000 | 01:07:37,000 | 相關的修法如果在野黨團認為不夠 |
| 01:07:37,000 | 01:07:39,000 | 都還可以在立法院進行討論 |
| 01:07:39,000 | 01:07:41,000 | 還有我要再一次強調 |
| 01:07:41,000 | 01:07:43,000 | 這根本是冷泛熱潮 |
| 01:07:43,000 | 01:07:45,000 | 根本就是收割政治紅利 |
| 01:07:45,000 | 01:07:47,000 | 根本就是充滿了政治算計的公投提案 |
| 01:07:47,000 | 01:07:49,000 | 這個案子現在的寫法叫做 |
| 01:07:49,000 | 01:07:53,000 | 廢除非核家園政策的這個名義 |
| 01:07:53,000 | 01:07:56,000 | 可實質上仍然在處理同樣一個核能議題 |
| 01:07:56,000 | 01:07:57,000 | 是什麼議題呢 |
| 01:07:57,000 | 01:08:00,000 | 就是在2025年8月23日 |
| 01:08:00,000 | 01:08:04,000 | 核三重啟公投投票結果是不通過 |
| 01:08:04,000 | 01:08:07,000 | 如果依照公民投票法第32條第一項 |
| 01:08:07,000 | 01:08:11,000 | 自公告結果起兩年內不得就同一事項重新提出 |
| 01:08:11,000 | 01:08:15,000 | 我要問到底這個案子有沒有涉及這一條規定的限制 |
| 01:08:15,000 | 01:08:16,000 | 在沒有釐清之前 |
| 01:08:16,000 | 01:08:19,000 | 我要呼籲在野黨團不要強行通過 |
| 01:08:19,000 | 01:08:22,000 | 看起來真的是空殼提案 |
| 01:08:22,000 | 01:08:26,000 | 那至於所謂的核廢核安跟社會共識 |
| 01:08:26,000 | 01:08:29,000 | 我們民進黨團在相關的很多場合都已經再次強調 |
| 01:08:29,000 | 01:08:31,000 | 我就不再佔用今天特別的時間 |
| 01:08:31,000 | 01:08:34,000 | 但我還是要強調一個非常非常重要的事情 |
| 01:08:34,000 | 01:08:37,000 | 就是這個公投綁大選這件事情 |
| 01:08:37,000 | 01:08:40,000 | 根本就是選舉動員而不是能源政策 |
| 01:08:40,000 | 01:08:42,000 | 在今天國民黨的所有提案最後一題 |
| 01:08:42,000 | 01:08:44,000 | 我要再次強調 |
| 01:08:44,000 | 01:08:50,000 | 因為國民黨團在同一個能源議題在三年內反覆訴諸公投 |
| 01:08:50,000 | 01:08:52,000 | 2021年的核四提案 |
| 01:08:52,000 | 01:08:54,000 | 2025年的核三提案 |
| 01:08:54,000 | 01:09:00,000 | 還有2026年現在再提一次所謂非核家園的期程要廢除 |
| 01:09:00,000 | 01:09:03,000 | 基本上耗費了龐大的選務還有行政成本 |
| 01:09:03,000 | 01:09:08,000 | 中選會其實就已經就選務的浪能表達關切跟提出呼籲 |
| 01:09:08,000 | 01:09:10,000 | 可是很可惜看起來六案 |
| 01:09:10,000 | 01:09:13,000 | 如果真的今天所有的協商都是這樣過水的方法 |
| 01:09:13,000 | 01:09:16,000 | 大家沒有辦法實質的討論並同九合一選舉辦理 |
| 01:09:16,000 | 01:09:22,000 | 我要再次呼籲可能會重演2018年邊投票邊開票的亂象 |
| 01:09:22,000 | 01:09:28,000 | 我要再次強調而且政府行政院也很尊重2025年公投所反映的民意 |
| 01:09:28,000 | 01:09:32,000 | 同時根據相關的公投也已經啟動舊有機組的安全檢查 |
| 01:09:32,000 | 01:09:36,000 | 所以實在沒有理由在專業審查進行當中 |
| 01:09:36,000 | 01:09:38,000 | 再一次包裹是公投干擾程序 |
| 01:09:38,000 | 01:09:40,000 | 我要呼籲請在會黨思考 |
| 01:09:40,000 | 01:09:45,000 | 究竟要把資源花在沒有辦法改變現實的公投上這個空殼公投 |
| 01:09:45,000 | 01:09:50,000 | 還是花錢在強化電網韌性加速再生能源跟深度節能 |
| 01:09:50,000 | 01:09:52,000 | 真正可以解決問題的政策 |
| 01:09:52,000 | 01:09:56,000 | 我想所有的政策單位都非常願意負責任的跟立法院對話 |
| 01:09:56,000 | 01:10:00,000 | 同時我剛已經再次強調根本就是空殼公投 |
| 01:10:00,000 | 01:10:05,000 | 非核家園期程根本已經沒有這個東西可以廢除了 |
| 01:10:05,000 | 01:10:07,000 | 所以不知道為什麼國民黨團體要提出這個提案 |
| 01:10:07,000 | 01:10:09,000 | 我要請大家三思謝謝 |
| 01:10:11,000 | 01:10:16,000 | 好現在看起來今天人無法達成共識 |
| 01:10:16,000 | 01:10:19,000 | 本案保留送請願會處理 |
| 01:10:19,000 | 01:10:20,000 | 謝謝三會 |