| IVOD_ID |
17630 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17630 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-30 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-30T08:34:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-30T11:57:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:22:18 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-07-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次公聽會（事由：召開「面對K型經濟問題，行政部門如何引導經濟成果均衡分配於全體勞工，並維繫非半導體產業發展動能」公聽會） |
| 委員名稱 |
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| 委員發言時間 |
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1652.19 |
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1655.27 |
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好,我們開始今天的公聽會 |
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1658.13 |
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1662.21 |
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各位在現場的學者專家、產業的代表、 |
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1662.21 |
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1665.25 |
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行政機關的代表們大家早安 |
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1665.25 |
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1671.33 |
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近期各大研究機構紛紛上修我們今年的經濟成長率 |
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1671.33 |
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1673.77 |
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突破的是兩位數字 |
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1673.77 |
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1677.93 |
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看起來這是一張非常漂亮的成績單 |
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1677.93 |
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1680.61 |
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但是許多的國人不僅要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1680.61 |
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1685.09 |
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這張漂亮成績單到底是全民共享 |
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1685.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1688.05 |
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還是少數的產業獨享 |
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1688.09 |
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1690.33 |
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今天我們台灣真正面對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1690.33 |
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1692.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
不只是經濟好不好的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1692.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1694.01 |
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景氣好不好的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1694.01 |
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1698.29 |
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而是整個國家可以行經濟持續的擴大 |
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1698.29 |
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1700.49 |
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最近我常常聽到一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1700.49 |
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1702.29 |
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產業界除了AI |
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1702.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1705 |
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其他都非常的悲哀 |
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1705 |
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1707.24 |
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除了AI就是比哀 |
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1707.24 |
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1709.28 |
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AI跟半導體一路向上 |
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1709.28 |
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1713.36 |
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許多傳統產業卻仍舊在原地踏步 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1713.36 |
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1716.68 |
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股市前一陣子雖然創了新高 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1716.68 |
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1720.68 |
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並不代表整體薪資同步的創新高 |
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1720.68 |
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1727.48 |
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GDP創新高也不代表每個家庭都感受到幸福 |
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1727.48 |
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1731.04 |
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真正的經濟奇蹟不是只有少數的成功 |
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1731.08 |
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1734.88 |
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而是多數國人的生活可以變得更好 |
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1734.88 |
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1741.24 |
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如果台灣七成勞工感受不到國家經濟景氣的成長 |
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1741.24 |
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1742.96 |
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再漂亮的數字 |
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1742.96 |
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1747.72 |
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我都認為是我們的政府應該共同檢討的地方 |
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1747.72 |
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1750.2 |
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政府不能只有公佈成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1750.2 |
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1753.96 |
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更要交出漂亮的共享成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1753.96 |
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1756.8 |
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這才是國人真正的幸福 |
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1756.8 |
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1758.84 |
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所以今天張愛宮聽會 |
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1758.88 |
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1761.24 |
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不是否定台灣的經濟成就 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1761.24 |
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1765.36 |
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而是希望讓每一位努力工作的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1765.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1769.72 |
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都能夠共享到國家成長的果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1769.72 |
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1772.08 |
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經濟發展不能只有速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1772.08 |
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1774.44 |
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更要兼顧公平 |
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1774.44 |
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1776.36 |
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也不能只有亮眼的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1776.36 |
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1779.04 |
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更要有人民真實的感受 |
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1779.04 |
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1782.04 |
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期待我們今天行政部門 |
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1782.04 |
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1786.04 |
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除了我們今天學者專家可以提出更多更好的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1786.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1787.72 |
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今天還有產業界的代表 |
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1787.76 |
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1791.52 |
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我們行政部門也能夠提出具體的改革方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1791.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1794.72 |
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讓台灣成長成為真正全民 |
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1794.72 |
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1800.08 |
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台灣的經濟成長率改變成為全民共享的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1800.08 |
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1804.44 |
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那這個是我們今天辦理宮聽會主要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1804.44 |
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1810.32 |
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容許我先介紹在場的委員跟學者專家代表跟政府機關代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1810.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1815.24 |
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第一位在現場的是我們長期關注台灣經濟發展的賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1817.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1819.62 |
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以及今天在現場 |
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1821.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1822.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
簽字別老對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1825.08 |
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呃以及在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1825.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1828.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
由我們淡江大學經濟學系的蔡明芳教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1828.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1832.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
台北市再生醫療工會的理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1836.15 |
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葉明工業理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1836.15 |
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1836.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1839.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1843.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
中華民國全國商業總會的常務監事王全紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1843.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1844.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
王常務監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1844.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1845.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1847.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1850.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
中華經濟研究院的副研究員王國成 |
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1850.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1851.84 |
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王副研究員 |
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1851.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1852.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
歡迎您 |
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1853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1856.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
以及中華經濟研究院的所長 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1856.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
劉駿夢劉所長 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
歡迎您 |
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1859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
劉夢俊 |
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1859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1860.52 |
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劉所長 |
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1860.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1861.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
歡迎您 |
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1863.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1864.2 |
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好 |
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1864.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1867.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
由我介紹現在今天列席的機關代表 |
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1867.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1868.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
由我們財政部的政次 |
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1868.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1869.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
軟政次 |
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1870.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1871.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
歡迎您 |
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1871.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1875.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
以及我們財政部推動促餐司的副市長 |
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1875.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
同副市長 |
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1876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1877.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
歡迎您 |
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1877.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1880.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
我們國庫署的副署長 |
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1880.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
林秀燕 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1881.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
林副署長 |
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1881.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1882.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
歡迎您 |
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1883.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
我們副稅署的副署長 |
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1885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
李志忠 |
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1885.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1886.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
李副署長 |
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1886.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1887.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1888.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1890.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我們清管會的副主委 |
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1890.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
陳彥良副主委 |
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1891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1892.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
歡迎您 |
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1893.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1895.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我們銀行局的副局長 |
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1895.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
王允忠 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1896.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
王副局長 |
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1896.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1897 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1898.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1900.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
我們政局局的副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1900.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1901.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
黃仲豪 |
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1901.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1902.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
黃副局長 |
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1902.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1903.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1906.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1908.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
以及我們保險局的副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1908.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
陳清源 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1909.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
陳副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1909.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1910.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1911.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1914.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
我們今天的央行的副總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1914.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
嚴鍾大嚴副總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1916.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1917.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1918.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
我們國家發展委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1918.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
產業發展處的副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
陳瓊華 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1922.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
陳副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1922.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1927.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我們經濟部綜合規劃司的林司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1927.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1928.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1929.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
我們產業發展組的 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1933.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
產業政策組的副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1933.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1934.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
盧副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1934.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1934.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1936.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1939.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
我們商業發展署政策規劃組的 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1939.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1940.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
孫科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1940.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
孫大偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1941.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
孫科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1941.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1941.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1943.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1944.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
我們中小新創企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1944.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
綜屬綜合企劃組的組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
謝謝組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1949.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
衛福部的檢認記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1953.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
旅記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1953.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1954.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1956.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我們食藥署的檢認記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1960.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
劉檢任記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1960.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1960.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1962.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1965.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
勞動部勞動條件司就業平等司的 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1965.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
副司長王副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1968.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1970.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1971.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
以及我們淡江大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1971.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
產業經濟學系的副教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
莊孟翰莊副教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1976.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1976.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1977.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1977.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1979.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
莊教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1979.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1979.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1979.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1980.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
今天每位發言的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1987.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
學者專家是8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1987.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1989.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
結束前1分鐘會按鈴提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1989.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1990.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
那原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1990.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
依學者簽到的順序發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1994.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
若委員需要發言的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1994.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
請到主席來登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
每位委員是5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1999.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那全部發言完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1999.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
採請我們行政機關就業管的權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
整體做回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
那我現在就先邀請第一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2007.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
我們賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2016.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2017.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2017.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2018.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2019.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
那麼我笨鳥先飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
因為我們立法院跑了跑去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
所以我先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
今天這個題目大家非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2028.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2031.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
不過這個財政部的阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2031.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2033.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
金管委副主委陳副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2033.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
要特別關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
因為現在所有的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2038.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
還有路人甲路人椅 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2038.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
我的選民 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
大家都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
台灣的股市兩天跌了3500點 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2047.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
到底國安基金要不要復盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2048.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
大家關心這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2051.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
當然這個題目跟今天有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2051.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2053.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
等一下講什麼關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2053.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
但就我個人的觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2057.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
也提供給各位參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2057.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2060.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
等一下這個阮次長拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2060.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2062.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
我們就請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2062.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
請他針對國安基金要不要復盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2065.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2065.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2068.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
給我們一個明確的一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2068.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
我個人是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
國安基金的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2075.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
是當這個市場失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2075.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2077.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
當初在1999年 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2077.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2080.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
因為李前總統因應了 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2080.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2082.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
這個說德國之音 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2082.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2086.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
他發表兩岸市特殊的兩國論之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2086.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2088.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
他算到可能會緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2088.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
就是非經濟因素造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2094.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
恐慌股市的暴跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2094.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
所以才成立國安基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2098.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
可是國安基金到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2098.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2100.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
他所動用好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2100.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2103.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
每一次都沒有超過一千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2103.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2104.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2105.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
最多的幾百億而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
有一次勉強到一千億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2111.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
或者超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2111.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2114.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
所以國安基金其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2114.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
Lip Service |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2117.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
LIP |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2117.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2118.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
嘴巴在服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2118.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
Lip Service |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2122.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
就是他是個信心的展示而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2122.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2124.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
說政府關心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2124.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
大家不用怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2126.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
但是要前提是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2126.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
前提是市場失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
什麼叫市場失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2131.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
我要賣賣不掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2132.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2134.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
沒有量 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2134.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
像古阪農前財政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
宣布政客徵證所稅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2139.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2142.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
19天無量下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2142.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
那時候市場失靈的 |
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2143.76 |
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2145.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
那時候國安基金進場 |
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2145.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2147.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
絕對是正確的 |
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2148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2149.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
那無疑回廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2149.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
像我們現在國安基金老實講 |
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2151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2153.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
挺尷尬的 |
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2153.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2155.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
因為量有 |
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2155.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2156.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
再低的話也8千多億 |
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2156.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
昨天還超過一兆 |
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2158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2160.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
你說成交量有 |
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2160.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2161.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
但股市跌 |
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2161.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2163.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
老實講對我個人來講 |
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2163.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2164.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
我長期在財政委員會 |
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2164.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2166.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
股市我關心的是量 |
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2166.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2168.13 |
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量就代表市場 |
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2169.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2171.47 |
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就代表這裡有沒有市場 |
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2171.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2172.75 |
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量夠大 |
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2172.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2174.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
就代表這裡有市場 |
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2174.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2176.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
其實要管的是管量 |
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2176.79 |
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2178.43 |
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價的話尊重市場 |
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2178.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
那價當然影響很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2182.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
那政府了不起就是細心喊話 |
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2182.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2184.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我只不過這裡剛好今天也來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2184.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2186.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
好不容易我們的主席英明 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2186.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2188.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
可以請到央行的副總裁 |
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2188.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
嚴中大也請你回去告訴總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2194.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
總裁這個金口不能亂開 |
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2194.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我們要開就請他來立法院 |
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2196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2198.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
我們請主席多請他來 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2198.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2200.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
他不太願意來這個金口 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2200.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
南菜會 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2202.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
他一開口 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2204.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
各位記住 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2204.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
央行總裁一開口提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2208.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
沒多久股市一定不停 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2209.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2210.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
其實我看好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2210.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2212.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
你看他這一次就講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2212.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2215.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
他這次講前幾天講的 |
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2215.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2216.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
他很注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2216.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2217.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
不是AI的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2217.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2219.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
是信用槓桿的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2219.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2221.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
四代同堂六代同堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2221.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2222.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
他講了天龍碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
可是因為他叫央行總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2227.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
他叫楊金龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2227.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
他出來就很強烈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2231.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
正式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2231.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2233.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
政策的暗示 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2233.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2233.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
那就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2234.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2235.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
資金要請所有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2235.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2236.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
他觀察最清楚 |
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2236.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2238.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
你為什麼請這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2238.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2240.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
股票市場就是急力雄散 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2241.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2242.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
他知道錢怎麼留 |
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2242.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2244.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
所以這一次給我們污名 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2244.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2246.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
只是大家學得不夠聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2246.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2248.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我在財務這麼久認識他 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2248.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2250.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
也是不夠聰明 |
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2250.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2251.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
以後就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2251.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
只要總裁講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
差不多你就準備落跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2256.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
是沒什麼錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2256.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2258.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
看起來就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2258.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2259.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
對不起 給我幾分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2259.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
所以這是第一個 |
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2260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
有提到大家所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2264.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
第二個跟這個關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2264.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2268.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我們的經濟現在政府號稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2268.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
經濟部最喜歡吹這個牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2273.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
財經部門最喜歡吹這個牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2273.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2274.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
我們的經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2274.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
GDP今年上漲10% |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2277.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2278.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
下期變成怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2278.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2279.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
以求保釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2279.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2280.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
股市現在以求保釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2280.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2281.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
好高 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2283.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2285.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
對岸中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2285.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2286.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
中國大陸了不起5 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2286.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
甚至於不到5 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2288.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2289.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那是老百姓要幹嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2289.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2290.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
我去這個歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2291.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2294.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
處境總署最近公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2294.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2296.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
我們的平均薪資是4.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2297.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2300.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
但是3分之2以上的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2300.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2303.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
將近7成領不到平均薪資 |
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2303.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2304.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
4.8萬 |
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2304.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2306.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
這就是可行經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2306.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
而且蓋個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2308.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
當GDP成長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2313.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
給勞工的那一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2313.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2314.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
只有台灣第一50% |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2315.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2318.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
其他日本 歐盟 美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
都是高於50% |
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2320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2322 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
請再給我3分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2323.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
都高於50% |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
只有台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2326.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2329.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
當我們的經濟成長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2329.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2331.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
最大的受益者是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2331.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
就是資本家 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
相對的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
一般的受薪階級 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2339.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
沒有看到物價不斷的上漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2340.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2342.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
他長得有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
但是物價漲得這麼的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2348.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
現在的便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2348.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2350.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
前一陣子不是就很強嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2351.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2353.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
所以我們產業會的便當不好吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2353.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2354.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
產生委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2356.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2358.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
我們的工作同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2358.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2359.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
說不錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2359.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2359.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
100塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2359.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
你要說你到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2362.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
有你買菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2362.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2363.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
我100塊怎麼買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2363.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2365.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
不知道可以吃的便當 |
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2365.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2366.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
有人這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2366.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2368.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
起碼112 |
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2368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
所以這個你就發現 |
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2370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2371.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
老百姓賺的錢是固定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2372.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2374.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
物價一直漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2375.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2376.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
所以大家看到 |
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2376.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
有小白 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2378.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
你到捷運去 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2378.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
那個年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2381.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
前一陣子手機都在看股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2383.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
有人把工作辭掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2383.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
有人把房子去貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
就是股票 |
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2385.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2387.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
所以會有四代同堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2387.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
六代同堂等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
那這個一來 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2390.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
就造成K型更加的嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2393.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
那有人講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2393.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2394.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
那我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2394.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
那採取稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2397.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
阮市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2397.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2398.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2398.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2399.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
阮市長 |
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2399.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2401.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
真正能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2403.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
稍微評論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2403.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
評論差距 |
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2405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2406.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
就是財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2406.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2407.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
稅制 |
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2408.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2409.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
但是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2409.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2410.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
不可能克制索稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2410.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2411.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
我們現在政教稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2411.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2412.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
給你上下其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2412.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2413.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
政教稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2413.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2414.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
收入荷包滿滿 |
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2415.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2415.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
繼續教課 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2415.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2416.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2416.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2417.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2417.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
應該認真去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
學美國加州 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
資產超過一定的程度 |
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2424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
我跟你扣5%的 |
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2426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2427.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
護輪稅 |
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2427.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2428.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
或者看幾% |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2429.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2430.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
這個以前又有人提到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2431.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
護輪稅 |
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2431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2433.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
針對特別有錢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2433.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
我就扣你稅 |
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2434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
他也不痛不癢 |
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2436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
加州就這樣做 |
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2438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2439.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
美國已經又這樣做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2439.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
這是我強調的第二點 |
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2443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2444.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
那第三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2444.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
我要提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2447.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
金管會要努力一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2448.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2449.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
我們現在所有的股票 |
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2449.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2450.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
在漲都是 |
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2450.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2452.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
AI平常 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2452.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2453.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
爆跌的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2453.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2454.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
AI領頭爆跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2454.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2455.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2455.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
傳統股沒有漲 |
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2457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
跌有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2458.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
漲沒分 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2458.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2459.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
跌有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2459.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
你們體諒老半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
金管會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2462.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2462.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
本主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2462.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2463.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
還有很多新人 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2463.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2465.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
有不願意去 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2466.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2467.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
同意計劃說 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2468.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
幫忙那些非AI股的 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
特別是小型股 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2473.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
到現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2473.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2475.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
也半年過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2475.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2477.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
成效不怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2477.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
一片空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2479.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2480.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
我們看來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2480.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2482.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
AI在領漲領跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2482.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
其他的股 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2483.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2485.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
都在旁邊看 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2485.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
就是看了流口水漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
可是跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
他有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2488.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2488.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
沒有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2490.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
現在問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2490.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2491.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
整個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2491.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2494.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
經濟社會是這樣的一個秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2494.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
那就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2495.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2497.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
貧責越貧富之越富 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2499.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
產業也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2500.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2501.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
跟得上 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2501.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
這個變車的 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2503.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2503.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2504.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
我們要省那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2504.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2505.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2505.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2505.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2505.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2506.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
金光股 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2507.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2508.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
金盆面不怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2508.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2508.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
你去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2508.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2510.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
EPS |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2510.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2510.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
也沒有一塊錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2510.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2511.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
幾毛錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2511.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2512.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
漲到兩三百塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2512.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2513.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
這樣拼命漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2516.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
這都是你最發現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2518.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2518.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
基本面多好 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2521.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
可是股票漲跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2521.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
韓國的SK |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2523.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2523.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2524.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2525.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2526.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
基本面非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2527.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2528.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
結果他們的法輸化 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2528.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2529.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
通通被人發揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2529.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2531.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
這才是最大問題 |
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2531.05 |
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2531.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2531.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2532.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2532.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2533.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
今天主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2533.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2534.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
一門提這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2534.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2535.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
這是一個大哉 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2535.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2536.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
問 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2536.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2537.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
非常大的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2537.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2538.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
但是我不認為今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2538.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2539.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
看完會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2539.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2541.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
好的一個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2541.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2542.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2542.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2543.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
最後答案就是 |
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2543.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2545.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2545.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2548.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
各市自求多福 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2548.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
多看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
多聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2551.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
我就講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2551.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2551.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2551.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2552.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
多聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
這個央行總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2555.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2556.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2556.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2557.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
多聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2557.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2558.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
儘管外主委講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2558.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2559.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
多聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2559.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2561.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
財政部這幾個三巨頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2561.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2562.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
他們講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2562.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
其實都有意義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
只要他出來講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
要注意貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2567.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2567.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2568.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2568.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2568.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
融資啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2568.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2569.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
什麼之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2569.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2571.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
就代表某種程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2571.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
在限縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2573.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
或者他看到什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2573.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2574.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
已經有看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2574.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2576.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
只是提早跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2576.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
你要跟得上這個腳步了 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2579.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
要不然吃虧都是自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2579.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
我簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2581.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2581.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2582.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
跟各位講報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2582.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2583.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2584.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
題目排名的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2584.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2584.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
我就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2584.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2585.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2585.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2585.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
阿巴拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2585.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2586.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2586.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2587.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
找不到出口處 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2587.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
剛好今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
有這樣的出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2590.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
那就是 |
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2590.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2591.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2591.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2591.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2591.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2592.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
刷短 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2592.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2596.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
責無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2596.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
財政部旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2599.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
要讓也有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2599.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2599.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
老師啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2599.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2600.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2601.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2601.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2602.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2604.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2605.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
比較沒有亮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2605.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2606.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
亮眼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2606.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2606.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2606.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2607.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
體質的 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2607.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2608.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2608.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2610.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
多介紹介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2610.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2611.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2611.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2613.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
對我們投資者都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2613.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2614.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2614.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2614.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2614.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2615.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2615.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2616.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
跟各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2616.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2616.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2616.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2617.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
也請各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2617.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2618.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
暫時各位時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2618.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2619.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
都 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2619.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2620.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2620.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
請各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2621.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2623.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
謝謝賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2626.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2626.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
請第二位 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
我們蔡明芳蔡教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2630.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2647.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2648.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2648.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2649.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
主席還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2649.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2651.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
各位政府官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2651.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2653.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
還有與會的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2653.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2655.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
剛以為來那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2655.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2657.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
股民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2657.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2657.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
發洩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2657.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
這個說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2660.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2660.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2661.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
我想今天主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2661.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
還是回到這個K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2664.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
那K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2664.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2666.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2666.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2668.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2668.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2668.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
大家這樣反應其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2671.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
是蠻有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2671.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
顯示其實大家對於整個經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2677.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
其實不是那麼瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2677.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2679.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
今天開這個公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2679.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2681.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
其實真的是蠻適合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2681.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2683.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
我想你自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2683.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2685 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
在考試的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
2685 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2686.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
你自己的家庭裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
2686.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2688.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
一定都會有人發展好 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
2688.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2689.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
發展不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
2689.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2691.92 |
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那有時候就必須要在家庭裡面 |
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2691.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2693.96 |
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或透過你在考試裡面 |
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2693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2696.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
你科目好的去就不好的科目 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
2696.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
2697.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
你所得高一點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
2697.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
2699.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
去幫助所得低一點的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
2699.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
2701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
所以一個國家裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
2701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
2702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
他本來就會有K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
2702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
2704.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
為什麼會有K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
2704.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
2705.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
因為每個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
2705.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
2706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
不同的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
2706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
2707.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
不同的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
2707.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
2709.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
那他們的表現都有可能會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
2709.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
2712.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
那自然就會產生現在大家關心的K型 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
2712.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
2714.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
那同樣一個產業裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
2714.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
2715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
廠商表現會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
2715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
2717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
同樣一個國家裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
2717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
2720 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
那這個不同產業的表現會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
2720 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
2722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
所以怎麼可能不會產生K型經濟呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
2722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
2724.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
那我們都很關心就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
2724.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
2725.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
所謂的國際貿易 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
2725.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
2728.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
國際貿易不就是要用比較利益嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
2728.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
2729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
大家在學比較利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
2729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
2730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
在談FDA的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
2730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
2732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
都一直不斷的在強調比較利益的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
2732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
2734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
那談到K型經濟的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
2734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
2736.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
完全把比較利益忘記了 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
2736.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
2737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
這蠻奇怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
2737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
2739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
那乾脆台灣就都不要去自由貿易 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
2739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
2741.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
讓大家都變成什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
2741.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
2742.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
絕對不是K型 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
2742.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
2743.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
等一下我會秀給大家看 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
2743.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
2747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
所以K型其實是普遍存在的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
2747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
2749.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
那把這個議題一直不斷拿來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
2749.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
2750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
其實是多講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
2750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
2752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
如果你真的有心 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
2752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
2754 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
對這個議題有感興趣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
2754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
2756.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
大家應該提出一些對方跟解方 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
2756.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
2759.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
那沒有K型經濟才需要擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
2759.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
2761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
剛剛前面我也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
2761.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
2763.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
這個中國的經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
2763.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
2765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
如果沒有K型 |
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2765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
2766.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
上面那個翹起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
2766.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
2768.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
就是大家看到經濟成長那一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
2768.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
2770.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
把下面的慢慢把它拉上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
2770.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
2772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
台灣就變成什麼L型 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
2772.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
2774.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
L型就是全部躺平 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
2774.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
2777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
大家覺得右邊的L型比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
2777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
2779.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
還是左邊的K型比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
2779.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
2780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
那只是大家K的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
2781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
2783.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
如果台灣跟韓國來比 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
2783.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
2785.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
可能韓國他K的更少 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
2785.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
2789.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
因為他集中在更少數的產業的經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
2789.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
2792.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
但是台灣這個產業的經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
2792.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
2794.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
他是慢慢再往外面再擴散 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
2794.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
2795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我想這個大家也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
2795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
2798.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
很多媒體的報導應該都會清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
2798.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
2801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
那這個發展差異的過大 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
2801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
2802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
從經濟學的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
2802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
2804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
你要達到均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
2804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
2805.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
其實真的是非常困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
2806.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
2808.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
那你絕對不可能說人家表現好 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
2808.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
2809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
你表現不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
2809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
2810.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
就要大家都要均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
2810.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
2813.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
這個不是所謂的均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
2813.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
2814.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
這個叫共產主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
2815.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
2816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
變成吃大鍋飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
2816.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
2820.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
那對一個自由民主的國家來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
2820.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
2821.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
對一個市場經濟的國家來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
2821.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
2823.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
我們會不會關心貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
2823.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
2824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
當然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
2824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
2826.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
為什麼要關心貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
2826.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
2828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
因為一旦這個社會的貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
2828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
2828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
如果擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
2828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
2830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
這個社會就會不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
2830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
2831.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
這個社會一旦不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
2831.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
2833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
這個社會的經濟環境會好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
2833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
2835.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
當然就不會好 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
2835.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
2837.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
你在菲律賓也會看到很多有錢的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
2837.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
2839.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
但是他的社會的治安 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
2839.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
2841.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
可能就比台灣輸的非常非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
2841.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
2843.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
你在美國也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
2843.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
2845.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
你去一些已經沒有稅收的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
2845.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
2846.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
City去住 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
2846.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
2850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
那他的這個稅收的發展差異過大 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
2850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
2851.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
經濟發展差異過大 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
2851.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
2852.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
這個風險都會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
2852.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
2854.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
所以政府要不要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
2854.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
2855.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
當然要 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
2855.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
2856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
所以我在這裡呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
2856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
2858.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
我是覺得政府其實還是有一些可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
2858.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
2860.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
雖然目前已經做得非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
2860.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
2862.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
但是我覺得不勞而獲的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
2862.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
2864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
真的要把它拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
2864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
2865.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
不勞而獲是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
2865.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
2866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
2866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
2869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我非常care這個議題叫當沖降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
2869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
2871.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
那過去有委員在立法院質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
2871.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
2873 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
金管會主委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
2873 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
2874.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
講到當沖降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
2874.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
2875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我聽說差一點暈倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
2875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
2878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
因為這個主委說回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
2878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
2879.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
副主委在這裡比較不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
2879.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
2881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
就主委回去就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
2881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
2882.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
要請這個財政部研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
2882.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
2885.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
他的意思是說要把全部都降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
2885.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
2887 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
如果全部都降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
2887 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
2888.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
那我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
2888.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
2890.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
我們這些證交稅來幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
2890.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
2892.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
這些小老百姓的錢哪裡來 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
2892.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
2893.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
全部都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
2893.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
2894.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
所以大家不要動不動 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
2894.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
2897.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
就去動財政部這個稅的腦筋 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
2897.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
2898.64 |
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稅有其必要性 |
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2898.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
2901.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
他要做的事情絕對不是來隨便降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
2901.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
2903.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
那為什麼不應該鼓勵當沖降稅 |
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2903.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
2905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
當沖就是投機 |
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2905.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
2906.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
那我們很喜歡填問卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
2906.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
2909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
你去問每一個股民 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
2909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
2911.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
假設你的股票持有很久 |
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2911.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
2912.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
然後你沒有降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
2912.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
2915.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
但是持有當天就可以來來回回 |
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2915.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
2917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
好多次人他反而可以降稅 |
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2917.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
2919.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
大家覺得這個合理嗎 |
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2919.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
2920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
應該不合理吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
2920.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
2922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
所以第一個我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
2922.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
2923.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
政府應該這個政策 |
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2923.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
2925 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
兩萬點有需要 |
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2925 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
2926.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
一萬點有需要 |
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2926.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
2928.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
到四萬點的時候應該不需要了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
2928.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
2931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
我覺得政策要有持續性 |
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2931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
2932.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
但是政策也要有目的性 |
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2932.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
2934.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
目的達到以後應該要退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
2934.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
2936.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
第二個就是打擊炒房 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
2936.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
2938.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
那這件事情我想我過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
2938.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
2940.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
在社會上也很常呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
2940.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
2941.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
那我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
2941.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
2942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
選擇性的信用管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
2942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
2943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
養養這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
2943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
2946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
應該必須要再繼續堅持下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
2946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
2947.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
那堅持下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
2947.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
2949.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
並不是說我都不讓你借錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
2949.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
2951.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
而是你沒有那麼必要的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
2951.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
2953.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
我不應該讓你借那麼多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
2953.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
2955.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
我覺得這個是政府可以去努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
2955.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
2957.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
所以我的結論就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
2957.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
2959.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
不要去補貼投機的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
2959.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
2961.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
你應該要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
2961.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
2963.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
幫助這些努力工作的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
2963.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
2965.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
那而不是去對努力工作的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
2965.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
2967.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
反而更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
2967.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
2967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
2967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
2969.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
有人說我的所得稅的稅率 |
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2969.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
2970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
要再低 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
2970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
2971.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
他努力工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
2972.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
2974.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我一天斜槓人生 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
2974.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
2975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
兼兩份薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
2975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
2976.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
我的所得比你高 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
2976.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
2978.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
然後你說政府要對這個所得高的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
2978.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
2979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
課更高的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
2979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
2982.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
這個就是蠻奇怪的這種政策建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
2982.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
2984.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
所以我覺得政府在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
2984.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
2986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
第一個不饒而獲的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
2986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
2987.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
我覺得應該要把它拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
2987.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
2990.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
第二個就產業面的問題來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
2990.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
2993.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
我覺得我們在這裡有幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
2993.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
2994.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
就是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
2994.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
2996.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
其實所謂K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
2996.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
2998.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
那個過去剛剛我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
2998.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
落在K下面的那一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
都是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3004.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
寄望中國市場非常深的那一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3005.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這一群他現在面對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3009.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
因為你沒有差異化 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3009.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3010.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
或你的差異化不夠大 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3010.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3012.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
當然就會面對低價競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3012.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3014.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
面對低價競爭怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3014.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
那第一個就是擴展其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
除了中國以外的這個市場 |
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3018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3020.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
但是你到其他中國以外的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3020.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3022.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
一樣都面對中國的競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3022.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3023.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
所以你就沒轍 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3023.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3025.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
那所以政府可以做的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3025.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
當然避免低價傾銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3027.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3028.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
別人都在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3028.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
你應該要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3031.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
那這一塊現在政府正在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3031.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3033.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
那我覺得另外一個其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3033.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
小兒包裹的降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3038.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
免稅這一塊應該要取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3038.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3040.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
雖然很多人說這是給台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3040.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3041.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
可能年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3041.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3044.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
可能喜歡用這些包裹的人的一個小確性 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3044.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
但是這種小確性我寧願不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3049.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
我寧願的是比較高的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3049.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3050.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
比較高的產業環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3050.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3053.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
那個才是我們一個國民所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3053.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
已經達到四萬美金的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3054.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
應該要追求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3057.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
而不是鼓勵大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3057.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3058.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
再去消費廉價的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
那接下來另外一個就AI轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3063.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我想這一塊大家聽很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3063.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3065.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
百工百業的AI負能 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3065.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
這個政府已經在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3069.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
中小微企業接下來新的2.0計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3069.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3070.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
也開始在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3070.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3071.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
這個都是AI |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3071.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3073.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
但是你不能只有想AI |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3073.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
有一些產業他不需要AI的怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3079.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
我覺得這個部分其實是現在在政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3079.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
比較少看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
那這個在經濟部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
當然你在推AI的政策之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
你也要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3088.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
有一些產業他就不需要AI |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3090.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
但是他現在就活得沒那麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3090.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
可是他還繼續願意活下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3093.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
請問你的政策是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3093.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3094.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
你又要拿出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3094.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3096 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
我有AI要幫助你嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3096 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3097.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
我就沒有要AI |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3097.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3098.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
那你要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3098.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3100.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
我覺得這個部分是比較沒有看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3100.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3103.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
那第三個是無法轉型的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3103.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3104.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
我這裡寫 |
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3104.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3105.72 |
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就是大家都不想面對 |
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3106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3108.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
但是你永遠不想面對 |
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3108.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3111.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
永遠就會有一群人出來跟你喊K型經濟 |
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3111.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3113.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
但是他不知道他已經不再K型 |
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3113.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3114.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
他已經變成L型了 |
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3115.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
這一群L型的人在喊K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3119.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
他以為自己還有獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3119.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3121.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
但是他說靠政府補貼 |
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3121.31 |
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3122.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
要不要讓他退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3122.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3123.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
我覺得有序的退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3123.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3125.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
為什麼我強調有序 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3125.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3126.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
不是一次要讓他崩掉 |
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3126.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3128.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
而是讓他慢慢的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3128.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
因為你的這個所得也都不夠高 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3133.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
那所以最後一個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3134.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
經濟強化韌性的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3139.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
其實公共服務很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3139.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3140.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
絕對不是只有發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3140.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3143.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
我想發現金很容易響 |
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3143.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3145.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
但是如果發現金就不用請到 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3145.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
我們在座在場的每一位到現場來 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
因為發現金誰不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
三歲小孩就會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3153.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
那你要做的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3153.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
第一個公共服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3155.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
台灣面對的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3155.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3156.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
我都把它列在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3156.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3158.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
我想大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3158.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3161.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
那政府現在也有推出一些類似的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3161.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3163.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
那公共投資剛剛提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3163.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3165.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
到底這個經濟成長有沒有全面共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3166.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3168.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
如果沒有全面共享的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3168.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3170.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
就不會有珍珠串的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3170.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
不是沒有全面共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3173.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
只是民眾享受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3173.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3174.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
但是他卻不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3174.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
所以你的南電北送 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3180.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
你的北水南送這種珍珠串的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3180.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3181.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
你的交通建設的便利性 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3181.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3182.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
就好像很多人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3182.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3184.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
高雄人都喜歡騎摩托車 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3184.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
不是高雄人喜歡騎摩托車 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
是高雄人沒有好的捷運可以搭 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3189.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
他才必須要騎摩托車 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3189.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3191.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
所以好的政府應該是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3191.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3193.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
好好去把公共建設做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3193.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
而不是一直持續的發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3195.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3199.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
這個對一個台灣要持續往先進國家去邁進 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3199.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3200.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
我想是不會有幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3200.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3201.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
以上發言謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3207.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
好謝謝蔡明芳蔡教授所做的具體的五個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3207.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3210.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
接下來第二位我邀請我們葉明工 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3210.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3213.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
我們再生醫療工會的葉理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3213.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3213.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3223.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
首先非常感謝李彥秀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3228.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
召開這個K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3228.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3231.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
在台灣現在經濟創造了新的這個價值之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3231.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
有考慮到其他90% |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3236.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
沒有在這一次這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3236.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3238.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
電子業紅利之下的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3240.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
那其實整個經濟的成長各位可以看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3246.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
我們是一路堅挺向上 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3246.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
其實主要是在這個電子業 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3251.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
但是其他的90% |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3251.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
他是在薪資成長上 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3253.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
跟動能是相對的弱勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
所以我們今天這個會議非常重要的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3261.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
如果藉由行政部門來引導經濟成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3261.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
能夠均勻的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3265.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
並維繫非半導體產業的動能 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3267.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3270.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
那經濟成長的果實目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3271 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
透過股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3274.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
但是最近股市跌得很兇 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3274.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3276.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
所以又有一批實際上是很慘的 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3279.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3281.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
那我今天主要是代表的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3281.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3284.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
台北再生醫療商業工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3284.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3288.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
那代表的是這個再生醫療相關的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3288.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3289.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
那我提供的就是再生醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3289.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3292.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
它是一個雙引擎的戰略跟產業平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3294.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3296.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
但是再生醫療產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3296.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3299.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
它不只是這個附加價值高 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3299.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3302.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
而且跨域的整合度是極高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3302.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3305.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
它跨越了生技、醫療、精密製造、資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3305.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3307.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
這都是我們台灣的強項 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3307.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3310.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
在醫療上我們是已經連續十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3310.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3311.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
在世界第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3311.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那精密製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3312.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3315.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
在我們中部地區很多精密製造工業 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3315.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
我們資訊AI現在也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3317.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
我們中部地區很多精密製造工業 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3319.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3321.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
我們資訊AI現在也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3321.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3325.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們資訊AI現在也是在世界上都名列前茅 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3325.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3328.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
而且整個匯集的勞工的範圍是廣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3328.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3330.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
可以創造中高階的就業機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3330.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3332.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
不是剛剛那個專家講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3332.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3333.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
這個L型的底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3333.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3335.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
它是另外一個K |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3335.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3336.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
所以很多人都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3336.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3340.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
在台灣的這個生技再生醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3340.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3342.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
是為了第二座護果神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3342.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3343.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
所以我在這裡要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3343.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3347.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
其實政府這二、三十年來投資在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3347.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3350.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
生物經濟其實投入了非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3351.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3354.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
在這個2024年的6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3354.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3357.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
立法院這邊也通過了再生醫療雙法 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3357.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3360.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
在2026年1月1號也正式實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3360.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3364.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
所以已經從這個學研進入到產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3364.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3366.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
所以我這邊的代表就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3366.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3368.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
我們產業再來需要什麼東西 |
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目前我們評估有認為 |
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遇到一些系統性的障礙 |
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包括從研發、法規、臨床製造到市場 |
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在法規的部分 |
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雖然已經有再生雙法公布 |
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但是有很多細則、細項執行的 |
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3387.36 |
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3389.36 |
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執法等等的 |
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3391.36 |
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可能需要更透明 |
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3391.36 |
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今天來了有衛福部的一些長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
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希望能夠帶回去 |
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3395.36 |
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3397.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
能夠加速把這一部分能夠釐清 |
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3397.36 |
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3400.36 |
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這樣子每一個在從研發進入產程 |
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3400.36 |
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3402.36 |
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進入臨床的時候 |
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3404.92 |
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所以他才能明確化 |
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3404.92 |
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3406.92 |
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資金投資者才願意導入 |
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3406.92 |
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3408.92 |
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第二個 |
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3408.92 |
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3410.92 |
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傳產其實我們台灣在再生醫療 |
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3410.92 |
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3412.92 |
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慢慢已經形成一個ecosystem |
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3412.92 |
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3418.92 |
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從運輸、醫療、醫院、運輸、採樣到製造等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3418.92 |
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3420.92 |
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它是一個大的生態圈 |
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3420.92 |
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3424.92 |
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但是這中間如何把我們的傳統產業銜接上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3424.92 |
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3426.92 |
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我想這一部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3426.92 |
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就有賴我們經濟部跟其他的大家一起來努力 |
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3428.92 |
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3430.92 |
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再來的話就是它本身再生醫療 |
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3431.48 |
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3435.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
在人的健康及預防有很大的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
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3437.48 |
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但是現在並沒有當入我們的醫保裡面 |
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3441.48 |
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那以前跟時部長他有講過說 |
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3443.48 |
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或許可以透過醫保加商保 |
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3443.48 |
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3445.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
所以這一部分 |
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3445.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3447.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
財政部是不是可以導引 |
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3447.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3449.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
某一些商業的保險納入這個體制內 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
所以整個摩擦點我們記憶體剖析 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3455.34 |
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就是法規跟市場的不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
會凍結早期的資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3459.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
缺乏健保的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3459.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3461.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
會摧毀整個商業化的規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3465.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
在傳統製造跟生醫工業內的斷橋上 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3465.85 |
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3469.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
其實我們台灣的一些在中部DCA傳統製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3469.85 |
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3471.85 |
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有非常好的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
但是如果讓他們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
把它銜接到再生醫療的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們目前再生醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
急需要的一些培養的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
耗材 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
GDP的標準製造、場域、CDMO的產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
都是靠日本、美國等等來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
如何把它本土化、產業化、量能化 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
甚至以後未來能夠外銷到國際去 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
在我們在台灣 |
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3494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3496.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
擁有非常好的、絕對的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3496.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
我們的醫療人才、生技人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3500.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
這麼多、這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3500.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3502.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
第二個我們整個福演包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3502.41 |
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3506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
是北、從韓國、日本、台灣、南到東協 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
都是我們一個很大的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
這是我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
是可以藉由再生醫療來發揮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
所以我們在台灣擁有 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3516.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
極佳的硬體的製造底蘊之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3516.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
藉由政府政策主動的造橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
如何把傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3522.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3524.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
導入到再生醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3524.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3526.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
產生富家、紅利的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3526.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3528.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
可以值得在座的各行政長官們來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3528.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3530.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
那這樣子就可以讓我們第二座的 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3530.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3532.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
富國神山更穩固 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3532.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3534.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
變成一個群山 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3535.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3537.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
再來的話最重要就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3537.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3539.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
跨部會的介入的框架 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3539.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3541.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
這邊提出了一個三大支柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3541.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3543.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
就是如何發展出一個包容性 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3543.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
經濟成長跟產業的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
剛剛講到的法規跟市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3549.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
就有賴於衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3549.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3551.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
還有一些來讓它透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3551.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
包括這個財政部等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3555.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
如何給予更明確的租稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
3555.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3557.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
還有健保的落地 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3557.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
再來的話就是資金跟人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
如何藉由國安衛基金的挹注 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
活絡整個資本市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
3564.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3566.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
跨域的學程跟轉業 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3566.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
那目前我有在清華 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
做高階的藥品醫材的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
3572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
但是除了這個之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
3574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
我們缺了很多的商業談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
國際領域的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
3578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
所以這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
有賴於教育部等等的勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
多開發一些這些課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
培養這些人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
讓我們人才能夠更多元化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
能夠更來滿足市場的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
再來就是產業跨域的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3592.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
經濟部這邊是不是盤點跟輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
傳統製造產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3598.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
協助取得GDP打入CDMO的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3602.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3604.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
再來的話打通法規跟市場的認都兩脈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3604.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
當然就是有賴於我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
財政部跟經濟部的長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
能夠儘速來解釋相關的法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3610.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
使得一些模糊不清的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
能夠更明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
使得資金能夠更容易導入來確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
再來就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
期待於衛福部審查跟法規的透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3622.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
這是目前很多參與者 |
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3622.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3624.95 |
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就會被詬病的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3624.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3626.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
那當然CDE的通冷也很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3626.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3628.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
但是如何取得更多的信賴 |
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3628.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3630.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
公開揭露 |
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3631.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
這部分也是值得努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3633.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
再來就是衛福部醫事司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3635.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
或其他相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3637.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
市場准入跟給付的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3639.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3641.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
是否可以嘗試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3641.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3643.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
建立沙盒驗證的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3643.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3645.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
透過風險分攤來協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
3649.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
3651.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
所以整個資金的活水跟快的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
3651.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
3653.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
才能夠讓再生醫療的生態系變好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
3653.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
3655.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
藉由國安會、金管會跟央行的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
3655.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
3657.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我想勞動部、教育部的介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
3657.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
3659.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
能夠讓我們分散整個半導體類集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
3659.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
3661.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
創造中高階薪資的成長的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
3667.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
3669.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
再來的話,驅動傳統產業跨一生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
3669.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
3673.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
就是請經濟部盤點相關的來媒合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
3673.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
3677.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
這樣子我們就可以打入整個國際的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
3679.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
3681.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
系統性的協同的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
3681.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
3683.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
從法規市場資金人潮到產業跨一的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
3683.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
3685.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
各部會我們這邊提供了一些可參考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
3685.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
3687.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
請各位長官參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
3689.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
3691.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
以上,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
3692.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
3695.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
非常感謝我們再生醫療公會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
3695.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
3697.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
業理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
3697.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
3699.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
再生生計醫療是蔡政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
3699.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
3701.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
八年任內非常重要的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
3701.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
3703.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
每一個重要的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
3703.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
3705.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
事實上都有政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
3705.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
3707.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
過去長期的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
3707.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
3709.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
今天再生醫療公會提出來的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
3709.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
3711.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
我們也希望包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
3711.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
3713.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
經濟部跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
3713.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
3715.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
在現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
3715.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
3717.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
在這一任賴政府上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
3717.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
3719.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
我們通過再生醫療法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
3719.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
3721.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
面臨的問題跟挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
3721.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
3723.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
我們也希望可以加入研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
3723.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
3725.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
等一下回應的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
3725.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
3727.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
再請衛福部跟我們的經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
3727.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
3729.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
針對這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
3729.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
3731.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
再做一下簡單的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
3731.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
3733.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
接下來我要請第三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
3733.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
3735.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們中華民國全國商業總會常務監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
3735.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
3737.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
王全宏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
3737.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
3739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
王常務監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
3739.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
3741.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
歡迎您,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
3747.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
3749.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
非常感謝李恩修委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
3749.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
3751.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
來主持這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
3751.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
3753.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我們商業界非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
3754.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
3756.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
憂心的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
3756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
3758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
剛剛有學者專家講到K型失業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
3759.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
3761.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
3761.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
3763.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
這個必然都存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
3763.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
3765.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
3764.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
3766.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
最近從股票市場來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
3767.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
3771.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
傳統產業跟科技產業的落差有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
3772.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
3774.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
3774.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
3776.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
要跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
3777.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
3781.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
我們要正視地方經濟對社會穩定的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
3783.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
3785.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
部分傳統產業雖然規模不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
3785.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
3787.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
但是我們要看的是 |
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3787.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
3789.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
3789.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
3791.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
3791.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
3793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
3793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
3795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
3795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
3797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
3797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
3799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
3799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
3801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
3801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
3803.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
3803.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
3805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
3805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
3807.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
3807.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
3809.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
3809.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
3811.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
3811.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
3813.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
我們要看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
3787.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
3789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
我們的民生跟就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
3790.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
3792.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
一家中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
3792.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
3794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
雖然他沒有採集見相關產業的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
3794.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
3796.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
但可以養活 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
3797.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
3799.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
無數的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
3799.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
3801.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
一個地方的工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
3801.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
3803.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
就是地方最重要就業的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
3804.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
3806.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
如果這些產業逐漸被消失被淘汰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
3809.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
3811.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
GDP影響可能不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
3811.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
3813.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
但直接衝擊了地方產業跟人口結構的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
3817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
3819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
因此公共政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
3819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
3821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
應該從地方的經濟角度來持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
3821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
3823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
應該從地方的經濟角度來持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
3823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
3825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
這也是穩定台灣社會的最重要的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
3825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
3827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
這也是穩定台灣社會的最重要的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
3828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
3830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
3829.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
3831.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
3831.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
3833.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
2025年中小企業白皮書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
3833.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
3835.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
已經明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
3836.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
3838.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
了解更多的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
3837.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
3839.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我國中小企業已經超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
3840.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
3842.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
3841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
3843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
一七一萬家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
3845.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
3847.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
佔全國企業的98.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
3849.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
3851.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
那就業人口大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
3851.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
3853.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
900萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
3853.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
3855.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
將近全國就業人口的8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
3856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
3858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
全年銷售額更超過31兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
3861.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
3863.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
台灣的就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
3863.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
3865.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
民生內需市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
3865.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
3867.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
都主要是由中小企業所持成的以上數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
3867.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
3869.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
都主要是由中小企業所持成的以上數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
3871.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
3873.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
所以我們為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
3873.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
3875.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
憂心K型產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
3875.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
3877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
長期以來對台灣會造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
3877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
3879.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
怎麼樣的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
3885.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
3887.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
未來在國際的競爭上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
3888.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
3890.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
關鍵在於誰擁有最完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
3890.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
3892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
最任性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
3892.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
3894.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
產業生態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
3895.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
3897.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
我們提出三個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
3897.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
3899.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
政府應該把重心放在建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
3900.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
3902.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
公認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
3902.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
3904.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
那我們很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
3903.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
3905.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
清楚的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
3905.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
3907.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
台灣AI能不能夠這樣蓬勃發展是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
3907.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
3909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
台積電以下數千家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
3909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
3911.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
台積電以下數千家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
3911.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
3913.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
供應鏈的連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
3913.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
3915.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
才有今天晶片在全球占重要的地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
3915.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
3917.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
才有今天晶片在全球占重要的地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
3918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
3920.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
3919.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
3921.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
其他的產業不能應該這樣子打趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
3923.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
3925.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
我今天有提供書面資料大概可以看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
3925.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
3927.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
我先從我們產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
3927.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
3929.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
3929.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
3931.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
發生的一些成功經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
3933.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
3935.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
給各單位做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
3937.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
3939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
我們的玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
3939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
3941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
就是你現在看的面板的玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
3941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
3943.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
你桌上的杯子的玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
3943.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
3945.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
你們從來沒有注意到這個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
3945.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
3947.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
但是1998年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
3947.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
3949.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
但是1998年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
3949.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
3951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
28年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
3950.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
3952.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
再一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
3951.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
3953.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
中部彰化有一個小公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
3953.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
3955.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
中部彰化有一個小公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
3956.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
3958.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
3957.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
3959.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
大家上網看就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
3959.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
3961.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
台灣玻璃屋就可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
3961.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
3963.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
它是一個觀光工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
3963.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
3965.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
後台是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
3965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
3967.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
小心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
3967.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
3969.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
玻璃廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
3969.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
3971.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
全盛時期他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
3971.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
3973.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
3973.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
3975.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
3975.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
3977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
他的產能不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
3977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
3979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
他要增加設備也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
3979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
3981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
所以當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
3981.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
3983.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
他結合了中部就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
3983.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
3985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
入港那一帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
3985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
3987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
入港 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
3987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
3989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
張濱和美 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
3989.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
3991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
那一帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
3991.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
3993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
把小型的加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
3993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
3995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
玻璃廠工藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
3995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
3997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
全部把它集合成上中下游 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
3997.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
3999.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
那他們的產品有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
藝術的玻璃平板的玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
容器的玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
我們的器皿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
還有我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
鏡子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
他這個群聚效益的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4014.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4016.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
曾經締造了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4016.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
我們的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
200億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
各位很難想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4021.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4023.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
就是你家裡看到的鏡子玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4024.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4026.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
台灣的產值200億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4026.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4028.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
那這一家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4028.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4030.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
他一年的銀額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4030.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4032.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
從很低到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
10億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
因為大家都是中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4039.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
大家都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4038.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
投機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4040.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4042.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
不願意安得在大家的下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4042.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4044.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
所以他們用團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4044.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4046.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
接單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4045.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4047.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
分工生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4047.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4049.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
也就是當時就有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4049.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4051.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
打群架的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4051.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4053.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
整個玻璃團隊的外銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4053.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4055.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
訂單的當年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4055.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4057.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
可以達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4057.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4059.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
7000萬美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4059.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4061.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
約台幣20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4061.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4063.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
當時的世界級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4064.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
這個家具廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
我們家具裡面門一打開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
是不是有鏡子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
或者是我們進到浴室 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4072.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
是不是有鏡子玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
在全世界這個大廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4077.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4079.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
10片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4078.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4080.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
的玻璃鏡子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4080.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4082.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
有8片來自台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4084.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
當年完全沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4088.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
政府任何的補助跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4089.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4091.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
只是企業界同行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4091.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4093.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
大家面臨的這痛點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4093.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4095.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
有人願意跳出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4095.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4097.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
這樣一弄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4098.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
造成這個產業呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4098.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4100.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
有這麼樣的成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4101.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4103.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
那剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4105.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4105.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
夜明宮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4106.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
李市長也是署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
他講的生化產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
事實上在十幾年前商業總會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
就一直提這是台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4116.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
第二座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4116.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4118.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
富國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4118.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4120.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4119.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4121.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
我們的接觸跟了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4121.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4123.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
因為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4123.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
他研發的東西有重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4125.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4127.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
他的資金不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4127.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
但是台灣人才夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4131.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
那政府未來如何來輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4131.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4133.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
生技產業能夠集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4133.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4135.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4135.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
互相重疊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4139.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
驅除掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4139.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4141.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
那農委會曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4141.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4143.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
有個很好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
我們的豬肉要外銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
必須有一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
合乎國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
FDA的這些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4153.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4155.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
農委會在南北 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4156.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4158.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
輔導了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4158.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4160.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
中部或許有一家我沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4161.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4163.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
參觀過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4163.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4165.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
所以台灣的豬肉外銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4165.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4167.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
現在都要經過這一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4167.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4169.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
從進去一直到出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4171.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4173.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
所以呢我們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4173.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
未來政府呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4177.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
政策要從計劃導向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4179.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
變成問題導向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
我們建議各部會在規劃政策時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
回到企業最迫切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
需要讓政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
真正能夠解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
經濟的痛點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
而不完成這個一個行政計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4195.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4197.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4199.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
有關於剛剛幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4199.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4201.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
學者專家的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4201.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4203.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
我們都很認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4203.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4205.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
但是對KLA型世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4205.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4207.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
傳統產業目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4207.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4209.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
所面臨的很大的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4209.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4211.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
更是我們所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4211.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4213.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4213.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4215.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
非常感謝我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4215.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4217.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
商總的常務監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4217.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4219.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
王全宏常務監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4219.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
在台灣有七早中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4223.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
佔了全台灣至少七成以上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4223.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4225.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
勞工喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4225.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4227.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
現在整體的環境影響對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4227.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
我們傳產業其實衝擊是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4231.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
相對的也影響我們的勞工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4231.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4233.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
相關未來的發展跟生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4233.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4235.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4235.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4237.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
也要請相關單位後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4237.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4239.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
負責關注跟研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4239.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4241.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
好接下來要請我們中華 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4241.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4243.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
經濟研究院的副研究員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4243.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4245.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
王國成王副研究員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4245.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4247.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
歡迎您謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
嗯... |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4251.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4253.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
下一節是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4253.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4255.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
結案嘛,在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4264.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
感謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4268.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
感謝立院邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4268.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4270.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
那我覺得這個題目當然很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4270.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4272.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
那第一個要回應的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4272.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4274.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
民方老師有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4274.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4276.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
就是我們除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4276.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4278.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
要平均之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4278.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4280.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
更重要可能是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4280.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4282.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
均富而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4282.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4284.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
變成L型的均平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4284.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4286.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
所以我們第一個這沒有印到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4286.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4288.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
就是額外加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4288.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4290.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
就是匯成幾個觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4290.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4292.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
第一個我覺得K型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4292.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
經濟的成因有二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4294.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4296.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
事實上各部會和剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4296.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4298.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
幾位老師先進都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4298.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4300.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
在AI的浪潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4300.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4302.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4302.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4304.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
那麼台灣的資通訊息本來就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4304.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4306.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
在世界上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4306.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4308.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
是有優勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4308.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4310.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
而且這些資通訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4310.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4312.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
事實上具有自然獨佔的特徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4312.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4314.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4314.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4316.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
像台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4316.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4318.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
它南瓜世界第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4318.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4320.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
所以它就可以南瓜很大部分的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4324.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
所以導致這樣的產業是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4324.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
只有少數關鍵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4328.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
廠商能夠獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4329.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4331.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
那另外一個我要特別提出來的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4331.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4333.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
我們長期關注中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4333.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4335.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
可以看到產能過剩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4335.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4337.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
輸出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4337.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4339.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
擠壓了各國傳產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4339.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4341.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
生存空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4341.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4343.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
所以一個K往上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4343.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4345.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
的是因為AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4345.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4347.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
另外一個往下的其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4347.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4349.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4348.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4350.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
必須關注的是中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4350.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4352.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
紅色供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4353.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4355.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
那另外一個我覺得比較麻煩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4355.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4357.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
延伸出來對於往下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4357.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4359.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
那一撇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4359.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
第一個除了剛才說到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4363.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
紅色供應鏈之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4363.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4365.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4364.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
大量的高科技產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
蘇美 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4369.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
所以造成台美的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4369.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4371.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
貿易順差不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4371.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4373.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4372.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4374.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
所以未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4374.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
美國可能會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
台灣輸入更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4380.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
低階農工商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4381.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4383.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
所以這也會加劇台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4384.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4386.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
傳統產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4387.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4389.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
生存困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4388.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4390.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
第二個是根據經濟學理論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4390.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4392.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
可以知道或現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4392.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4394.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
發生的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4394.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
竹科或者是這些科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4398.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
新貴的薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4398.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4400.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
上升所以他有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4400.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4402.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
能力花更多的錢去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4402.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4404.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4404.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4406.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
拉大的不只是貧富 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4406.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4408.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4408.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4410.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
而且是通貨膨脹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4410.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4412.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
去年最新的例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4412.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4414.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
就是台灣的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4414.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4416.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
總成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4416.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4418.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
已經高過日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4418.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4420.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
那其中很重要的原因是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4420.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4422.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
生活雜貨跟餐飲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4425.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
那另外是剛才三董的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
先進有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
台灣絕大多數都是中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
所以不斷的其實我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4436.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
不斷起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4436.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
談轉型升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4440.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
對於這些兩人或三人的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4440.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4442.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
其實是有點困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
那所以我覺得因應的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
後面會進一步提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
現在總結三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
第一個是從實成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
製成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4452.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4454.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
事實上我們有調查就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4454.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4456.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
包含了美國開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4456.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4458.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
陸續封鎖中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4458.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4460.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
記憶體和剛才上總 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4460.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4462.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
那個前面提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4462.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4464.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
面板正最新的逆變器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4464.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4466.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
所以這些我們認為過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4466.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4467.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
已經被中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4467.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4469.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
擠淡了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4469.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4471.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
那個商品我們都有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4471.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4473.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
拿回來重做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4473.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4475.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
順便帶動所有相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4475.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4477.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
的電子產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4479.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
那更重要我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4480.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4482.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
我們應該要去重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4482.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4484.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
定位什麼叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4484.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4486.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
傳產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4487.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
我們作為台灣不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
這麼完全這麼大國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
所以我們要保留哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
跟國安相關的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4496.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4498.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
然後輔導一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4498.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4500.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
二代接班有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4500.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4502.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
意願不高的廠商退出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4502.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4504.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
而不是要強迫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4504.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4506.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
你家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4506.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4508.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
主上都在做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4508.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4510.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
所以你要繼續撐著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4510.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4512.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
如何退出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4512.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4514.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
與之對應的我覺得更重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4514.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4516.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
是剛才上總有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4516.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4518.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4517.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4519.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
後時服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4519.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
大概占台灣GDP超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
五成大概沒記錯大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4525.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
54% |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4525.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4527.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
所以呢如何去發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4527.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4529.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
服務業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4528.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4530.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
對應過來剛才說二代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4530.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4532.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
接班的家屬辦公室等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4532.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4534.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
金融業才是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4534.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4536.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
應該要後續可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4536.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4538.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
所以進步來看一些圖表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4538.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4540.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
的部分第一個就是剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4540.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4542.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
各位先進有提到的或是各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4542.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4544.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
各部會長官有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4544.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4546.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
台灣的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4546.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4548.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
成長率可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4548.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4550.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
基本上都是新知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4550.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4552.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
年增率的兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4553.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
所以換句話說大部分的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
除了現在很可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4559.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
拿去做AI的研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4559.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4561.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
另外一塊可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4561.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4563.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
更多的是公司的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4563.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4565.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
保留盈餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4565.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4567.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
所以如何拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4567.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4569.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
稍微拿出來一些去補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4569.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
勞工的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
4573.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
所以另外一個這邊提到的台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
4573.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
4575.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
記憶體系數也重申 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
4575.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
4577.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
回到2009年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
4577.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
4579.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
那個刺激 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
4579.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
4581.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
防災風暴的時候的高點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
4581.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
4583.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
那我們這邊有提到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
4583.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
4585.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
消費者物價指數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
4585.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
4587.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
基本上較2008年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
4587.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
4589.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
累計成長大概兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
4589.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
4591.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
當然就平均來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
4591.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
4593.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
每年的話大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
4593.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
4595.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
1%不過民眾的感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
4595.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
4597.37 |
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就是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
4597.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
4599.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
所以這是第一個我覺得K型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
4599.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
4601.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
經濟比較大的問題那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
4601.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
4603.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
第二個用詞可能比較強烈一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
4603.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
4605.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
青美就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
4605.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
4607.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
可以看得到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
4607.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
4609.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
最近川普最新的301 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
4612.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
關稅下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
4614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
4616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
是讓台灣拿到的關稅稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
4616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
4618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
應該是世界上最好的一個等級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
4619.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
4621.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
那麼往前回溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
4621.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
4623.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
不管是晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
4625.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
4627.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
四方聯盟到所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
4627.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
4629.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
戲甚是宣言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
4630.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
4632.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
都可以看到台美的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
4632.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
4634.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
是相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
4634.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
4636.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
快速而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
4637.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
4639.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
某種程度經貿上面是相對友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
4641.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
4643.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
所以如何運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
4644.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
4646.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
台美之間的經濟自由度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
4646.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
4648.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
人才乃至於世界競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
4648.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
4650.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
民主共同鋪墊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
4650.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
4652.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
民主供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
4652.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
4654.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
就如同剛才一開始報告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
4654.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
4656.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
包含半導體面板 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
4656.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
4658.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
這些跟記憶或電子有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
4658.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
4660.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
都是台灣可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
4660.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
4662.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
重新拿回來的契機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
4666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
4668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
那麼具體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
4668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
4670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
另外剛才提到的抗中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
4670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
4672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
可以看到重點是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
4672.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
4674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
有兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
4674.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
4676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
第一個可以看到因為台灣的高科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
4676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
4678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
和中間才對中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
4678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
4680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
出口收縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
4681.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
4683.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
另外一方面才能過剩輸出台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
4683.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
4685.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
所以台灣在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
4685.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
4687.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
上半年首次對中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
4687.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
4689.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
出現貨貿逆差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
4690.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
4692.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
所以後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
4692.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
4694.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
我覺得建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
4694.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
4696.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
這邊有列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
4697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
4699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
包含加徵關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
4699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
4701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
禁止強迫勞動進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
4701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
4703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
或者剛才民防老師有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
4703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
4705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
小額包裹關稅等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
4705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
4707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
這些都是保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
4707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
4709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
台灣的傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
4709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
4711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
生存空間很重要一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
4711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
4713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
措施跟手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
4713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
4715.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
那最後就台灣來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
4715.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
4717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
這邊只講一點就是兩點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
4717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
4719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
第一個是提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
4719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
4721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
台灣其實不缺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
4721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
4723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
缺的是投資標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
4723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
4725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
所以台灣的超額儲蓄率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
4725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
4727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
其實都很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
4728.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
4730.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
那麼現在台股的市值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
4730.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
4732.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
剛才先進們都提到現在更是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
4732.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
4734.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
世界第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
4734.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
4736.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
所以如何發展金融業是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
4736.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
4738.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
第二個是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
4738.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
4740.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
健全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
4740.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
4742.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
副院長那時候提到的中小企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
4742.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
4744.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
所需資源協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
4744.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
4746.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
這邊也有匡列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
4746.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
4748.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
供會上參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
4748.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
4750.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
以上報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
4750.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
4755.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
好非常感謝我們中華經濟研究院的副研究員王國成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
4755.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
4757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
王副研究員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
4757.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
4759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
接下來我請第六位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
4759.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
4762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
劉孟俊我們中華經濟研究院的所長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
4762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
4764.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
劉所長歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
4774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
4776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
好 副院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
4775.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
4777.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
各位長官各位先進大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
4778.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
4780.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
我是劉孟俊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
4780.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
4782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
來接續我們前面好幾個專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
4782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
4784.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
裡面的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
4785.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
4787.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
直接跳過一些背景的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
4787.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
4789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
那我們來看一下我提出了一個六點的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
4791.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
4793.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
來改善我們的勞動報酬的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
4795.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
4797.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
首先我們來看一下這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
4797.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
4799.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
剛剛講了很多K型經濟的一些議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
4799.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
4803.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
但是我現在想補充一個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
4804.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
4807.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
就是說我這邊的報告裡面好像似乎來講是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
4807.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
4810.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
講很多是跟中小企業有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
4810.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
4814.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
主要是因為中小企業大概是聘僱我們所有的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
4814.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
4819.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
最新的數據是74.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
4822.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
4828.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
然後小企業的薪資大概是我們說5人以下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
4828.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
4834.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
是低於那個是100人以上大概是差了一倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
4834.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
4838.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
所以說我們必須講說改善中小企業裡面的一個競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
4838.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
4843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
是有幫助於我們大部分的勞工裡面的薪資成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
4843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
4847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
所以剛才講了很多是K型的往上走跟往下走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
4847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
4849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我這邊就跳過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
4849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
4853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
這邊是我們5年勞動報酬我們可以看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
4853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
4856.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
2024年的時候已經再繼續往下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
4856.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
4861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
所以意思是講說今天委員裡面提出一個強化的勞動報酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
4861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
4863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
這是有它的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
4863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
4865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
另外的話我們這邊看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
4865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
4870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
是說我們平均的薪資所得跟我們中位數裡面的差距是越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
4870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
4874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
這邊就表示講說我們的勞動報酬的distribution的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
4874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
4876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
是越來越分配不均 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
4876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
4880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
那我們這邊的話並不是講說我們要利用到多麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
4881.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
4885.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
最重要的關係是講說今天會發生一個K型上的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
4885.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
4889.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
我的概念裡面就是我們的半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
4889.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
4891.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
跟我們的AI產業裡面的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
4891.38 |
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還有ICT產業裡面表現那麼好 |
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4913.1 |
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但是它這邊的一些生產力或競爭力能不能spin off到其他的產業 |
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4913.1 |
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或者其他的勞工這才是關鍵 |
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4915.1 |
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4917.1 |
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我們還要繼續把 |
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4918.13 |
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4920.13 |
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保持我們的產業競爭力 |
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4922.13 |
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但是在競爭力裡面的一些好處 |
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能夠透過某些管道裡面外溢到其他產業 |
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4926.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
4928.13 |
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這個我認為這才是一個重點 |
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4929.62 |
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好,那我這邊提出六點的一些想法 |
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4932.62 |
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這六點想法表面上看起來好像是針對中小企業 |
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4936.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
4942.62 |
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其實更重要的是針對我們要跨部會把我們所有的政策連結在一起 |
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4942.62 |
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4945.62 |
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來幫助我們的小企業 |
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4945.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
4950.62 |
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那透過這個企業內部裡面的一些形式上的調整跟誘因 |
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4950.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
4952.62 |
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來強化我們的競爭力 |
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4953.89 |
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4955.89 |
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好 |
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4954.67 |
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4957.67 |
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好,首先來看一下我們的第一個想法 |
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4958.02 |
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4962.02 |
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所以我們也曾經拜會過許多的企業 |
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4962.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
4964.02 |
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或者參與到相關的一些活動 |
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4964.02 |
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4967.02 |
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企業組裡面講一個 |
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4967.81 |
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4969.81 |
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他說我們好像 |
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4969.81 |
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4975.81 |
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我們的好的優秀老公被半導體或者其他產業人員吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
4976.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
4978.47 |
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但是他講說如果說我們的企業 |
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4978.47 |
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4983.47 |
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我們的員工看的是我們的企業有機會將來能夠上市上櫃 |
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4983.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
4986.47 |
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那我們的員工,我們的人才就不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
4987.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
4989.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
被吸收 |
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4989.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
4991.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那我們就建議一個是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
4991.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
4994.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
我們會不會設立一個叫做準創櫃板 |
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4994.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
4996.12 |
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或者準新櫃板 |
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4996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
4998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
讓他有一個list裡面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
4998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5002.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
讓我們的企業裡面覺得有這機會將來的話會上市上櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5002.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5004.28 |
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那我的員工也講說 |
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5004.28 |
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5010.28 |
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我在繼續待這個企業裡面就有未來的這個想法 |
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5010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5012.28 |
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那這樣子的話我們的老公 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5012.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
我們的優秀的員工就不會被吸引走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5017.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
那我們可以看得到國際上是不是有類似一些做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5017.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5018.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
的確有 |
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5018.28 |
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5020.28 |
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像英國、日本或韓國等等 |
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5020.28 |
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5024.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
他就是釋意利用所謂的保健人 |
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5024.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5029.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
或者是講說我們那個準創櫃或準新櫃板裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5029.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5031.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
針對的是怎麼樣 |
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5031.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5038.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
叫做venture或者PE等等投資業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5038.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5040.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
這樣子的話可能是一個策略的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5040.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5042.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
這樣我們的員工裡面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5042.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5046.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
可以分享未來的一些成長果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5046.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5048.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
第二個的話我們能提供一些想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5048.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5050.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
這個些想法是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5051.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5054.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
就是說我們很多資深的一些技術人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5054.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
尤其我們現在那個勞工逐漸的老化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5059.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
其實他身上有一些know how |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5059.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5062.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
這些know how可不可以透過AI的技術裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5062.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5064.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
把那個隱性知識顯性化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5064.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5067.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
或者隱性知識隨著數據化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5067.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5069.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5070.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
可以幫助我們的企業裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
年輕的一些企業員工裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
很快就能catch到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5079.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
我們資深的老師傅裡面的那些know how |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5079.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5081.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
這樣子的話我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5081.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
國際上的日本也好韓國也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
德國、新加坡等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
他用數位的指引還有資深的一些專家進駐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5093.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
還有職場裡面的學習跟技術認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5093.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5097.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
來幫助我們的年老的talents |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5097.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5099.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
skill worker |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5099.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
他使他的know how能夠留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5103.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
所以說我們可以看到到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5103.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
這個數位化並不是取代了老師傅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5107.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
而是幫助他的know how |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5107.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5109.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
能夠更快的繼續傳承下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5109.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
讓我們的中校企業裡面更具有競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
但同時呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5115.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
這些的老師傅裡面know how |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5115.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5117.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
如果變成一個數位化的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5117.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5119.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
是不是講說他退休之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5119.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5123.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
將來他的know how變成是一個資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5123.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5125.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
可以繼續來分享我們成長果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5125.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5127.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
這是第二個一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
第三個建議裡面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5131.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
剛才我們有些同仁也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5131.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
那個過程裡面也講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5136.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
是有些那個企業裡面是有接班困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5136.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
尤其二代接班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5140.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
現在又變成一個很重要的一些挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5141.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5144.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
我們可以被引進了那個基金的一些力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5144.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5145.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
或者創投 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5145.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5148.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
或者其他專業投資人的一些能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5148.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5151.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
來幫助我們做一些整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5151.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5153.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
我們知道說政府裡面本來就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5153.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5156.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
在推動相關的一些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5156.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5157.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
但我們可以被人家講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5157.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5159.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
也借鏡一下國際上的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5159.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5162.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
像日本、德國或其他的國家裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5162.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5164.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
利用第三方的一些美合的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5164.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
或者接班的基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
或者專業的投資機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5170.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
幫助沒有人能夠接班的一些企業裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5170.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5171.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
這樣就整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5171.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5174.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
這些整合裡面是來幫助我們的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5174.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5176.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
能夠穩定的一些就業機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5176.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5178.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
然後規模做大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5178.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5180.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
使他心智也能夠成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5180.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5182.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
這是第三個一些想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5182.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5183.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
第四個想法裡面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5183.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5186.84 |
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我覺得說我們可以創造出一個想法 |
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一個新的一些模式 |
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我不知道說我們現在台灣 |
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5192.84 |
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或者是我們金管會或我們政府裡面 |
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有一些提倡叫 |
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綠色金融 |
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5196.84 |
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那綠色金融裡面 |
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我們把它擴大 |
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這樣說如果說你可以像日本一樣 |
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是把那個加薪 |
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放在你的一個政府裡面的一些指引當中的話 |
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這樣的話 |
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綠色金融可以擴展到什麼樣 |
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5209.84 |
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5212.84 |
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有更多的社會上面的一些責任裡面 |
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5212.84 |
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5215.84 |
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把我們更有加薪的醫院的一些企業裡面 |
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5215.84 |
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5217.84 |
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也可以防造綠色金融 |
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5217.84 |
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5220.84 |
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可以得到一些連接到一個融資的一些優勢 |
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5220.84 |
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第五個的話就是 |
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5224.84 |
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我們怎麼幫助我們的勞工 |
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5224.84 |
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5226.84 |
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好能夠普遍的使用到AI的一些技術 |
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5230.84 |
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我們可以防造像這個新加坡 |
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5230.84 |
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5232.84 |
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叫Skilled Future |
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5232.84 |
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5234.84 |
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或者是德國裡面的 |
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還有的資格化的一些津貼 |
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5238.84 |
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你有些數位能力等等 |
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5238.84 |
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5241.84 |
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這樣子的話就是幫助我們的勞工 |
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5241.84 |
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5244.84 |
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使用到這個數位跟AI的能力裡面 |
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5244.84 |
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5246.84 |
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這樣可以得到更多的一些優勢 |
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5246.84 |
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5247.84 |
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這樣子的話 |
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5247.84 |
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5249.84 |
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譬如說你具有數位能力 |
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5249.84 |
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5251.84 |
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可以得到更多的一些薪資 |
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5251.84 |
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5253.84 |
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這個是第五個想法 |
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5253.84 |
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5255.84 |
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第六個想法的話 |
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5257.1 |
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5258.1 |
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最後一個的話 |
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5259.45 |
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5261.45 |
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就是幫助我們企業裡面 |
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5261.45 |
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5263.45 |
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中小企業裡面能夠快速的 |
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5263.45 |
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5267.45 |
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接取AI的數位轉型一些能力 |
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5267.45 |
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5270.45 |
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這樣的話可以加速他們的效益的落地 |
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5270.45 |
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5273.45 |
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所以換句話說我們現在設立FDE裡面 |
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5273.45 |
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5275.45 |
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譬如說我們的數位部裡面 |
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5275.45 |
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5277.45 |
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可以培育到更多的一些專家 |
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5277.45 |
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5278.45 |
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來進駐到我們企業裡面 |
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5278.45 |
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5280.45 |
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幫助我們的數位轉型 |
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5280.45 |
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5282.45 |
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等等的話我這邊就 |
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5282.45 |
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5284.45 |
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書面就留在這邊 |
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5284.45 |
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5286.45 |
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我們不耽誤大家的時間謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5288.18 |
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5292.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
非常感謝劉夢俊劉所長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5292.18 |
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5294.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
您的具體的四點建議 |
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5294.18 |
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5296.18 |
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我們也會留下來書面 |
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5296.18 |
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5299.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
給所有的部會同仁做參考 |
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5299.18 |
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5300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
接下來我請第七位 |
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5300.18 |
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5303.18 |
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我們淡江大學產業經濟學系的副教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5303.18 |
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5305.18 |
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莊夢翰莊副教授 |
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5305.18 |
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5307.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
謝謝您歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5324.55 |
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5326.55 |
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好這邊禮委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5326.55 |
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5327.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
各位長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5328.53 |
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5331.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
各位禹涵的專家學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5333.07 |
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5335.07 |
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今天我來跟各位報告的就是 |
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5336.06 |
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5338.06 |
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也是很大的一個產業 |
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5338.06 |
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5342.06 |
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但是也最近這幾年面臨了一個 |
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5342.06 |
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5344.06 |
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很大的一個衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5344.55 |
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5346.55 |
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那這裡面一個重點就是 |
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5348.85 |
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5350.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
謝謝 |
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5350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5351.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
所以我列了大概有十幾項的建議事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5360.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
我們為什麼會在整個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5363.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5365.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
房地產業來講 |
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5365.95 |
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5367.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
我們一直認為 |
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5367.24 |
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5369.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
它是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5369.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5371.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
整體的一個住宅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5371.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5373.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
但事實上它不夠完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5375.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
我們講居住正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5380.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
又顯得不夠正義 |
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5380.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5382.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
那這裡面有很多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5382.26 |
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5384.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
常在我們這裡面 |
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5384.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5386.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
我所寫的幾個問題 |
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5386.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5389.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
第一個重點我們可能可以看到說 |
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5389.26 |
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5391.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
市場上 |
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5391.1 |
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5393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
我們現在在分析的是 |
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5393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5395.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
預設屋、中古屋、新城屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5394.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5396.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
但是你看那個資訊的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5396.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5398.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
跟我們政府主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5398.95 |
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5400.95 |
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有時候會出現一些落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5400.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5402.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
有時候我們假設說 |
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5402.63 |
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5404.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
我們要以準的動數是 |
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5404.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5406.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
認為應該是在 |
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5406.63 |
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5408.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
如果是 |
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5408.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5410.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
如果是 |
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5410.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5412.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
如果是 |
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5412.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5414.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
如果是 |
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5414.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
如果是 |
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5416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5418.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
如果是 |
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5418.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
如果是 |
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5420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
如果是 |
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5422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
如果是 |
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5424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5426.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
如果是 |
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5426.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5428.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5428.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5432.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
如果是 |
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5432.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5434.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
如果是 |
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5434.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5438.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
通常預設屋大家認為是一個在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5439.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5441.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
這個房地產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
這個發展過程的一個領先指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
但是 |
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5444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
這裡面我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
宜莊業行也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5450.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
大家在觀察那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5450.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5452.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
這是國泰的房價支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5452.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5454.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
但是國泰的房價支出 |
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5454.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5456.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
又沒有辦法把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5456.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5458.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
實價登錄的部分從反映出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5458.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5460.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
因為實價登錄就是這幾年都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5461.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5463.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
都隱藏著不實的教育價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5463.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5465.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5465.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5467.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
因為你在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5466.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5468.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
退院的時候你簽約 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5468.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5470.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
三天之內要報備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5472.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
但是你家屋並沒有要再報備一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5472.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
所以這兩個價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
沒有辦法去核對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
中間潛藏什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
以現在來講三年前買的跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
落差最少10%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5484.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
這個絕對沒有辦法在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5484.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5486.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
國泰的房價支出顯現出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5486.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
我們在採樣的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5490.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
會發覺說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5490.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5492.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
那怎麼國泰的房價明明是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5492.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5494.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
上一季才133萬5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5495.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
現在為什麼到第二季變成138萬6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5501.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
怎麼會這麼奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5501.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5503.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
那你中環部又是一層兩層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5503.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5505.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
但是看不出來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5505.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5507.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
你在家屋的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5507.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5509.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
隱藏著對用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5510.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5512.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
送裝網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5515.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
送家具等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5515.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5517.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
包括廣告書寫也可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5517.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5519.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
這個我們在數據上看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5519.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5521.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
第二個你新成物來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5521.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5523.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
我們通常會看什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5523.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5525.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
比如說591 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5525.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5527.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5527.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5529.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
異色中古新成物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
你還有一個是以北部地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
北臺灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
大概又有一個住宅雜質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5537.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
然後你中古就看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5540.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5542.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
跟永居房屋為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5542.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
所以你會發覺說這個數據都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
那你如果中古屋來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
價格比較穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5550.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
異色房屋幾乎變化非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5550.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5552.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
所以我剛剛講你看國泰的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5552.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
真的有很多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5556.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
那第一個我們要跟各位報告的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5557.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5559.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
要密切注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5559.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5561.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
可以寫得很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
然後是不是有V型、U型、L型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
有些地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
你在看台北市好像好像疊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5569.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
又上來好像有點V字型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5569.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5571.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
但是如果你去看中南部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5571.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5573.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
它可能這樣下來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5573.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5575.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
它是一個L型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5576.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5578.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
淡水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
長期是一個L型的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5579.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5581.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
我們的普通航急用度是央行在追蹤的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5585.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5588.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
但現在已經降到了35.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5588.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5590.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
所以我會建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5590.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
是不是可以適度的鬆綁一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5594.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
鬆綁大概一成左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5594.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
所以建議對第二戶的代管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
適度鬆綁一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5600.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
高價也鬆綁一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5600.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
後面我們有一個計算式來跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
那你可以從第五點的廣告訴求裡面看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5606.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
這裡面事實上是特案量降 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5606.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5609.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
溢價率也下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5609.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5612.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
然後稍稍等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5612.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5614.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
這是溢價率是上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5614.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5617.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
再來第七點的部分就講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5617.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
實價登錄是隱藏的不死價位價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
然後要注意空物餘額多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5625.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
我們以前在追蹤是從建造至到使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5625.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5627.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
到開工到完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5627.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5629.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
然後再看買賣移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5629.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
現在的全部不靈了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5635.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
因為央行那個第七波選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5635.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5637.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
進行使用管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5637.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5641.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
把建商的漁屋代管只有30% |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5643.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
第一戶沒有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5648.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
第二戶代管本來是只有五成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5648.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
提高到六成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
大概這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5653.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
整個的原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5653.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5655.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
按照以前的預設制度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5655.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
都是說代管規格七成八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5657.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
這個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5661.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
然後偏偏房價又高漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5661.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
所得又沒有跟上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5667.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
那就造成我們剛剛講K型的是有錢人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5667.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5669.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
他真的是非常的有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5669.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
5671.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
買房子買豪宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
5671.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
5673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
不用去代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
5673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
5675.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
就是民進的人去利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
5675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
5676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
5676.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
5678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
結果新清安掉入了陷阱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
5678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
5679.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
5679.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
5681.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
我說利益良善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
5681.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
5683.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
新清安應該是在第十點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
5683.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
5685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
利益良善時機不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
5685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
5687.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
為什麼你在高峰期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
5687.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
5689.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
就應該要下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
5689.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
5691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
我們為什麼主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
5691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
5693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
對於這個發展的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
5693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
5695.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
沒有辦法充分的掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
5695.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
5697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
我想石家登陸應該也會注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
5697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
5700.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
有時候助長有時候助手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
5700.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
5702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
所以這是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
5702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
5704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
我們以後稍微要再注意一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
5704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
5706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
然後另一個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
5707.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
5708.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
CALL YOU |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
5708.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
5710.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
各位一定可以慢慢看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
5710.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
5712.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
重化區、蛋白區、大型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
5713.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
5716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
建安的甲午潮這個後遺症 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
5716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
5717.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
已經出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
5717.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
5719.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
但是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
5719.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
5721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
這是因為預售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
5721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
5723.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
從預售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
5723.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
5725.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
出售的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
5725.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
5727.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
公開銷售到完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
5727.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
5729.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
最少要有四年以上的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
5730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
5734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
這樣來講就會產生很多的資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
5735.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
5737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
那另一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
5737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
5739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
是杜根煒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
5739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
5741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
我想我們內政部都講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
5741.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
5743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
我會老超車很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
5743.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
5744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
我說不要高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
5744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
5746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
從十年前開始講危老的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
5746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
5749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
我說會出現很多的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
5750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
5753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
整個的市場性的問題等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
5754.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
5756.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
那我這邊就是講地區波的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
5756.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
5758.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
這是已經到了第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
5760.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
5762.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
第二步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
5762.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
5764.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
貸款提高一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
5764.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
5766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
這是之後提高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
5766.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
5768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
好,那這裡面一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
5768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
5770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
我的重點在這裡說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
5770.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
5772.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
5771.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
5773.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
預期房價上漲的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
5773.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
5777.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
大概都是在2018到2024年的第二季 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
5777.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
5781.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
那你的建價可能會從180到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
5782 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
5784 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
提高到110 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
5784 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
5786 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
但以前正常貸款7成到8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
5786 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
5788 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
所以你可能會發覺說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
5788 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
5790 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
貸款可以到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
5789.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
5791.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
7成到8成就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
5791.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
5795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
你110%成以貸款7成到8成當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
5795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
5797.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
還是會在7到8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
5797.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
5798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
5798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
5799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
但是預期下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
5799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
5800.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
現在是下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
5800.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
5802.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
我覺得2029年還是會下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
5802.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
5804.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
那它的建價就會降到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
5804.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
5806.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
最少降低90 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
5806.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
5808.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
那接下來這次會注意到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
5810.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
5812.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
如果你的貸款是5成到6成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
5812.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
5814.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
最後可能貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
5815.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
5817.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
打折下來最後也63% |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
5817.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
5818.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
5818.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
5821.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
如果我們把貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
5821.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
5823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
就是卓越提高1成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
5823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
5825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
最後從建價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
5825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
5827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
銀行的建價因為已經自主管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
5827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
5829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
它一定會往下調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
5829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
5833.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
頂多也不過是63% |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
5833.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
5835.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
所以比原來的7成到8成還很低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
5835.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
5837.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
所以這不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
5837.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
5839.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
所以我一直建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
5839.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
5841.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
適度的雙方比較重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
5841.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
5843.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
那另外一個重點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
5844.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
5846.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
這個股市跟房市的變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
5846.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
5848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
造成我們的市場波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
5849.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
5851.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
大家看不太清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
5851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
5853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
5855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
5857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
這裡面就是講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
5857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
5859.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
台北市的房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
5859 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
5861 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
其實為什麼會大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
5861 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
5863 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
一直想把資金放在普通產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
5863 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
5865 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
就是因為從1966年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
5865 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
5867 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
左下方那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
5867 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
5869 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
那時候一坪大概0.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
5869 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
5871 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
其實3000區而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
5871 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
5873 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
到現在已經133萬多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
5873 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
5875 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
就是變成漲多跌少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
5875 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
5877 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
那個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
5877 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
5879 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
我想主要是跟各位來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
5879 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
5881 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
剛剛那個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
5881 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
5883 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
如果我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
5883 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
5885 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
單行適度的雙板1成的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
5885.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
5890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
大概貸款也不過是原來的6成多而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
5890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
5892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
也沒有超過7成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
5892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
5896.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
所以我一直建議說可以適度的雙板房貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
5898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
5900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
這個買方跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
5900.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
5905.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
建商跟銀行都可以同時在一個平衡點之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
5905.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
5907.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
取得一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
5907.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
5910.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
這個解套的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
5910.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
5912.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
一個方法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
5913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
5915.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
5914.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
5916.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
5915.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
5917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
大家單行的硬著陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
5917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
5919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
就會慢慢的傾向於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
5919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
5921.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
軟著陸的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
5921.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
5923.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
5923.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
5925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
5925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
5927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
莊孟翰教授對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
5927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
5929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
近期在第七波 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
5929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
5931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
這個信用管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
5931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
5933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
央行信用管制之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
5933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
5935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
對於整體房貸的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
5935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
5937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
好幾位財務會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
5937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
5939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
也關注過相關的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
5939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
5941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
在各縣市的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
5941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
5943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
其實城鄉差距之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
5943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
5945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
其實各地方房地產的價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
5945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
5947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
有相當大的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
5947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
5949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
當然房地產是整體台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
5949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
5951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
上下有產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
5951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
5953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
也聽聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
5953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
5955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
從媒體報導也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
5955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
5957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
最近開始相關的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
5957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
5959.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
有開始放五星價的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
5959.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
5961.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
當然這一點也需要我們央行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
5961.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
5963.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
特別關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
5963.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
5965.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
做以上剛才莊教授的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
5965.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
5967.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
請央行去做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
5967.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
5969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
好來接下來第八位請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
5969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
5971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
張其露我們的國立中山大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
5971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
5973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
政治經濟學系的教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
5973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
5975.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
請張教授歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
5976.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
5978.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
5986.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
5988.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
好趙委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
5988.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
5990.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
我們各位委員還有我們參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
5990.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
5992.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
公聽會的所有專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
5992.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
5994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
跟我們行政部門的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
5994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
5996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
5996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
5998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
很高興今天來跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
5998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
來討論這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
算是一個非常重要的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
其實我這邊很精簡的大概先跟各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6005.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6007.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
大概我的主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6007.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6009.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
我們先來談一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6009.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6011.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
今天碰到的真實問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6011.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6013.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6013.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6015.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
其次我們可能用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6015.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6017.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我們確實有的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6017.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
數據資料來看這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6019.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
當然我們也會提出就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
我們到底面臨的這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
這個問題他的原因到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
那當然最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
今天公聽會當然也希望知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
是不是有具體改善的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
策略性的這個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
那我大概也提出兩個大的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
最後我們做個總結 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
我想這個高從這個高成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
低擴散到共享成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
這件事是應該這樣談 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6043.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6045.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
就是這個K型經濟大家很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6045.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6047.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
就是這個AI半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6047.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6049.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
跟資本密集的這個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6049.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6051.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
他這個高產值高獲利高薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6051.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6053.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
那另外一個部分其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6053.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6055.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
我們這個傳統產業中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6055.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6057.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
還有多數的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6057.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6059.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
他們未必能享受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6059.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6061.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
這樣子的一個經濟成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6061.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6063.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
我想這就是這個K型經濟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6063.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6065.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6066.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
那當然這個概念是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
就是說我們並不是說沒有成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6072.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
而是這個成長沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6072.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6074.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
充分傳導下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6074.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6076.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
甚至經濟的果實沒有被共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6076.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
我想就是說同一波的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6080.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
經濟成長那大概是有上行部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6080.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6082.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
但是也有低擴散部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6082.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6084.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
甚至可能以相對來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6084.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6086.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
他會變得更差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6086.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6088.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
所以這個地方當然我直接我們就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6088.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6090.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
這裡面看得出來有幾個段列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6090.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6092.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
包括一個是成長的段列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6092.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6094.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
就是總體成長跟我們的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6094.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6096.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
的這個薪資的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6098.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6100.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
第二個就是產業的段列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6100.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6102.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
就是高科技的這個產業跟非半導體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6102.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6104.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
這些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6104.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6106.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
那再來一個是能力的段列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6106.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6108.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
就是有大型跟中小型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6108.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6110.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
這就是我們至少去觀察這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6110.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6112.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
可以看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6112.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6114.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
然後當然這些也都有數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6114.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6116.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
其實當然我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6116.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6118.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
不用援引太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6118.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
前面的專家學者也講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6122.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
其實不管是總體成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6122.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6124.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
出口動能或者我們看我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6124.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6126.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
平均薪資或中位數薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6126.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6128.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
或者我們的這個財政能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6130.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6132.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
其實台灣的經濟好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6132.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6134.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
超好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6134.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6136.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
可是是不是每一個人都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6136.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6138.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
分享到這個包括就是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6138.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6140.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
我們現在成長高度集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6140.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6142.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
尤其是集中在所謂這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6142.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6144.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
半導體電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6144.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
電子及光學產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
這些我想我們主席總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6150.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
都已經盤點的很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6150.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
那我們的薪資的這個傳導的偏弱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6154.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
就是說我們GDP跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6154.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
出口快速擴張但是我們本國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
全時受僱員工的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
薪資成長卻是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
所有這些成長裡面最低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6164.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6167.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
再來一個當然我們也有很不錯的這個財政的這個收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6167.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
近期因為我們的總體好嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6171.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
我想這大家都很了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6171.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6173.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
我就不多囉嗦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6173.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6175.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
那當然這裡面就看出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6175.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6177.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
我剛前面講的斷裂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6177.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6179.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
這個斷裂就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6179.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6181.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
我們整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6181.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6183.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
這些好的果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6183.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6186.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
尤其是直白講我想最多專家學者提出來的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6187.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6189.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
你實質的這個GDP成長裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6189.4 |
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比如勞工的這個分配 |
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6191.4 |
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6193.4 |
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到底有多少勞工的這個薪資 |
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6193.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6195.4 |
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占GDP的比例是多少 |
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6195.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6197.4 |
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再來一個是高科技跟半導體這些 |
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6199.4 |
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當然他也有包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
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6201.4 |
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很多這個這個不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6201.4 |
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6203.4 |
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產業之間可能有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6203.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6205.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
分享到的這個但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6205.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6207.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
不是在這個圈內的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6207.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6209.4 |
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他可能他這個斷裂很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6209.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6211.4 |
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那當然還有大跟小之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
當然這裡面就會衍生到一些我這邊其實有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6215.4 |
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但是時間有限 |
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6215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
我們可以追蹤的一些指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
不過這個等一下我乾脆就在建議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
一同一起來處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6223.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6225.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
那當然這個有很多學理基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6225.24 |
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6227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
其實坦白說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6229.24 |
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學總體經濟當然大家都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
到底怎麼發生的一個就是薪資跟生產力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6233.24 |
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的這個脫鉤這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
我其實也盤點了很多OECD的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
報告大家很清楚了就不用多說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
最主要就是我們勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
佔比下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
那他佔整個GDP的這個分配裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6245.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
他這個比例是越來越低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6245.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6247.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
其實主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6247.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
大概已經是兩年前都已經做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6249.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6251.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
出來了這個我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6251.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
創了十年的新低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6253.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
勞工在GDP這種大品裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
他這個分配的這個share是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6259.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
越來越少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6259.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6261.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
那另外還有明星產業的出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6261.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6263.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
他也做出一些排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6263.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6265.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
這個也是有一些學理的支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6265.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6267.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
那再來就是企業生產力的分化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6268.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6270.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
不是每個企業都有這個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6270.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6272.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
去做這些事的他也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6272.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6274.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
有他自己的能力這些OECD |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6274.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6276.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
其實也都有盤點那因為時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6276.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6278.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
我看有些人我也不能再多說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6278.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6280.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
我就直接要先到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6280.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6282.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
這個必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6282.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6284.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
檢討我們現行的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6284.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6286.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
我們現行不是沒有政策我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6286.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6288.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
這次公聽會之前幕僚同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6288.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6290.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
也準備的很好其實不管是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6290.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6292.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
主管的相關的這些特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6292.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
或者是甚至在這個中小級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
新創企業這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6298.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
所做的這個金融支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6298.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6300.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
其實都有但是我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6300.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6302.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
直接點出核心的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6302.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6304.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
包括就是說這些現代的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6304.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6306.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
是不是只看投入沒有看政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6306.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6308.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
競效果還有只提供資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6308.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
協助沒有處理企業能力以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6312.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
申請至可能形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6312.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6314.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
強者越強弱者越弱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6314.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6316.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
最後一個就是補助這些企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6316.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6318.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
勞工他到底有沒有被分享到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6318.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6320.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
這些有沒有追蹤所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6320.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6322.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
地方說我們也盤點說目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6322.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6324.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
這些行政措施真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6324.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6326.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
他還是有些盲點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6327.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6329.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
那然後好因為時間太有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6329.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6331.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
我就只能直接說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6331.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
我們的政策建議我們必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6335.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
第一個建立成長擴散跟共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6335.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6337.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
成果的指標系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6337.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6339.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
其實我這邊已經盤點了至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6339.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6341.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
五類第一個就是成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6341.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6343.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
擴散率的這種指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6343.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6345.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
這個簡單講就是我們用我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6345.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6347.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
實質中位數薪資的成長除以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6347.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6349.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
實質勞動力生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6349.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6351.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
的這個成長就是他都有成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6351.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6353.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
但是我們看哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6353.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6355.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
這個這個成長的這個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6355.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6357.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
其實是可以建構一些新的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6357.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6359.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
再來一個就是勞動成果的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6359.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
分享也就是說他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6363.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
到底這個勞動占GDP的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6363.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6365.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
這個比例還有不同產業別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6365.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
之間這關係到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
再來一個就是高科技的他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
真的到底有沒有外溢其實這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6373.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
我們也欠缺一些指標就包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6373.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
就是說他是不是比如說他雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
是台積電很棒但是他在我們在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
的採購他帶動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6381.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
在其他的這種生產力薪資出口及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6381.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6383.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
地方就業的這種變化這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6383.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6385.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
其實也應該去衡量去琢磨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6385.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6387.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
他是不是有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6388.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6390.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
把他這個外溢效果也建構具體的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6390.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6392.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
再來一個就是補助附加效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6392.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6394.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
坦白說我們要知道我們的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6394.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6396.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
不是只有投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6396.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6398.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
但是我們不知道這個進產出產出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6398.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6400.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
的到底是什麼尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6400.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6402.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
帶動了多少投資研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6402.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6404.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
加薪跟中高薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6404.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6406.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
工作這個到底多多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6406.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6408.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
最後一個是政策受益的這個部分 |
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6408.48 |
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就是說到底誰受益的 |
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哪些產業這樣的這個區分 |
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也許可能 |
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我們行政部門會說我們也做了一些 |
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但是可能這些很具體的因為我這邊 |
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寫的比較細也請可以參考一下 |
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那當然我們也可以 |
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有五項直接可以就做了 |
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制度改革這個包括 |
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我們是不是要納入重大公共支持 |
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的共享成長條款 |
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簡單講就是如果你得到了 |
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這些政府支持的好處 |
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那你有共享出去嗎 |
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這邊我們其實就是說我們可能 |
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不管是這個他是不是要 |
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有這個分紅的這個調整人才 |
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培育的這個計畫 |
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他怎麼樣擴散給他的員工 |
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還有建立產業別的 |
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共同轉型平台 |
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坦白講很多中小企業 |
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他其實每個人都重複投資 |
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而且他可能也做不來他也沒 |
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這個資源所以是不是由政府做 |
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這個共享的這個這樣整合 |
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AIA資安碳盤查這些認證 |
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這由是政府做總的來提供 |
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中小的企業再來就是 |
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龍頭帶動中小的這種責任 |
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機制就是我們這些大型的企業 |
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他是不是也發揮他用 |
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這個領頭羊的這個作用 |
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再來就是說我們金融支持 |
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要改為融資診斷跟轉型 |
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就是說這些不是只給他錢 |
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還包括我們要分析他 |
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然後他做了什麼事 |
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最後一個就是說這些產業的 |
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輔助還是要有落日跟比較 |
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跟追回的機制就是說 |
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我們事實上這個評估要可能 |
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更省省抱歉因為時間有限我只能 |
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寫的裡面其實都有寫 |
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再請參考 |
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好最後一頁那我想 |
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6502.48 |
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總結就是說我們希望從一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6503.42 |
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6505.42 |
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這種發展型的國家的這個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6507.42 |
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走向一個共享其實我們現在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6509.42 |
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經濟既然已經有了這個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6511.42 |
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那不應該是有的人更好 |
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6513.42 |
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但是有的人反而是越走越差 |
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6515.42 |
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所以這個怎麼樣從 |
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做大總量然後從補助 |
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6519.42 |
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個別企業這樣的著手然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
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6521.42 |
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再從資源的這個投入等等做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
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6523.42 |
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我們半導體的成功並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6523.42 |
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6525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
問題那經濟的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
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6527.42 |
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也不是問題那政府的稅收 |
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增加更不是問題那重點是說 |
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我們怎麼樣讓他擴散出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6533.42 |
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怎麼樣讓勞工的薪資真正增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
還有讓這個稅收轉化為 |
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6537.42 |
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我們政府可以補助產業 |
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跟勞工的這個能力才是關鍵 |
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6541.42 |
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以上謝謝謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6542.28 |
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6544.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
謝謝我們立法院的好朋友 |
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好同事也是我們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6548.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
中山大學政治經濟學系的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6550.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
教授建議了幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
重要的意見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
那我們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6556.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
接下來登記發言的學者 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6558.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
專家都已經發言完畢我們等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6560.28 |
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是需要如果還有需要第二輪我們 |
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6562.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
再邀請大家參加第二輪 |
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那接著我先請行政 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
機關回應相關的意見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
依序現在先請財政部 |
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6570.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
來做回應阮市長 |
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6572.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
歡迎您謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6586.01 |
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6588.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
主席 |
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6588.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6590.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
各位學者專家先進 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
6592.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
大家早安 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
6594.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
今天真的很感恩 |
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6594.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
6596.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
聽到這麼多學者專家的 |
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6596.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
6598.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
寶貴的意見 |
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6600.01 |
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真的受益良多 |
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6600.01 |
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6602.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
那首先 |
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6602.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
6604.01 |
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我就先針對剛才 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
賴委員所 |
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6608.01 |
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提到的問題關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
6608.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
6610.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
股市的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
6612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
那國安基金的進場 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
6614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
大家知道都有一定的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
6616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
條件的限制 |
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一定是要就是 |
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碰到重大事件 |
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6622.01 |
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導致信心 |
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6624.01 |
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崩盤 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
6626.01 |
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市長失去的狀況才會進場 |
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那麼最近 |
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6630.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
最近三場進場都是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
6632.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
一些特殊的狀況 |
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6634.01 |
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比如像COVID-19或者是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
6636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
歐戰爭的升息或者是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
6638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
台美關稅等等這些 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
那這個都是 |
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有特殊的狀況才會 |
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進場 |
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那通常一般來講 |
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我們對市場是不會進入干預的 |
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不會進入干預的 |
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也就是說它有漲有跌 |
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最近當然受到國際局勢的影響 |
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那再加上 |
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台灣的股市 |
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跟國際的股市有高度的連動 |
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所以最近 |
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因為國際股市不好 |
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那麼台灣的股市也受到影響 |
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不過 |
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這個是 |
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6672.01 |
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有漲有跌這是正常的情況 |
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這種情況 |
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那事實上今天 |
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大家都看了一下今天股市 |
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又回不上漲了 |
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6682.01 |
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昨天跌 |
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6684.01 |
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今天又漲 |
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6686.01 |
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所以最近的狀況就是一個震盪的形態 |
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6686.01 |
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6688.01 |
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那 |
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6690.01 |
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我想我們 |
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國安基金的立場很簡單 |
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6692.01 |
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6694.01 |
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我們密切關注國際的 |
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6694.01 |
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6696.01 |
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國內跟國外的 |
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6698.01 |
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政經的情勢 |
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6700.01 |
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密切的關注 |
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6702.01 |
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如果有一些失序的狀況 |
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6702.01 |
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6704.01 |
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我們會做思路來處理 |
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6704.01 |
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那麼這一部分 |
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6708.01 |
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我做簡單的一個說明 |
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6708.01 |
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第二點剛才蔡委員 |
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蔡教授提到 |
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就是針對小額退稅 |
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的這一部分 |
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是不是要取消 |
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6720.01 |
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大家都知道最近美國也好 |
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6720.01 |
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6722.01 |
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歐盟也好 |
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因為有一些小額 |
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退稅有一些後遺症 |
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所以他們都已經取消 |
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那我們要不要跟進 |
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6732.01 |
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6734.01 |
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其實這個涉及到 |
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6734.01 |
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國際的事務 |
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6738.01 |
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所以這一部分 |
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6740.01 |
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因為這個是互惠的 |
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6740.01 |
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6742.01 |
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這是互惠的 |
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6744.01 |
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所以這一部分我們要不要 |
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6746.01 |
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跟著美國或者歐盟 |
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6748.01 |
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來取消 |
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6748.01 |
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6750.01 |
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我們這一部分會充分的 |
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6750.01 |
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6752.01 |
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審慎加以考量 |
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6752.01 |
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6754.01 |
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特別是關注其他國家 |
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6756.01 |
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的一些做法 |
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6756.01 |
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6758.01 |
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那麼我們會做妥適來處理 |
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6760.01 |
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那麼剛才 |
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6760.01 |
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6762.01 |
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這個張教授 |
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6762.01 |
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6764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
張七路張教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
6764.01 |
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6766.01 |
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來了我想他講了 |
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6766.01 |
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6768.01 |
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很多因為他是過去 |
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6770.01 |
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蔡委會所以他 |
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6772.01 |
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這方面特別的熟悉 |
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6772.01 |
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6774.01 |
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我不是說熟悉 |
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6774.01 |
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6776.01 |
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就是說他講的東西 |
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6776.01 |
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6778.01 |
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跟財政部有密切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
6778.01 |
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6780.01 |
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關聯所以我在這邊 |
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6780.01 |
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6782.01 |
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我做簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
6782.01 |
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6784.01 |
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回應一下 |
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6784.01 |
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6786.01 |
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事實上剛才張教授 |
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6786.01 |
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6788.01 |
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講的東西其實都非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
6788.01 |
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6790.01 |
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關鍵 |
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6790.01 |
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6792.01 |
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事實上我們過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
6792.01 |
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6794.01 |
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產業政策都是透過 |
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6794.01 |
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6796.01 |
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很多都是透過 |
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6796.01 |
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6798.01 |
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租稅的獎勵 |
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6798.01 |
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6800.01 |
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來從這個 |
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6800.01 |
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6802.01 |
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創新的研發 |
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6802.01 |
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6804.01 |
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或者是出現這個 |
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6803.76 |
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6805.76 |
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智慧轉型或者是 |
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6805.76 |
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6807.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
新創發展等等幾個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
6807.76 |
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6809.76 |
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那麼來提供相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
6809.76 |
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6811.76 |
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租稅優惠措施來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
6811.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
6813.76 |
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產業升旗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
6813.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
6815.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
當然產創條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
6815.76 |
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6817.76 |
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雖然是說 |
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6817.76 |
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6819.76 |
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沒有產業別的限制也沒有 |
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6819.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
6821.76 |
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規模限制但事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
6821.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
6823.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
大部分適用的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
6823.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
6825.76 |
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大家都知道大部分的都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
6825.76 |
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6827.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
大企業在享受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
6827.76 |
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6829.76 |
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所以我們最近 |
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6829.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
6831.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
也注意到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
6831.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
6833.76 |
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問題我們針對中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
6833.76 |
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6835.76 |
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除了中小企業發展條例之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
6835.76 |
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6837.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
那麼我們最近 |
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6837.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
6839.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
也在配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
6839.76 |
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6841.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
相關的部會 |
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6841.76 |
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6843.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
在研擬一個中小微的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
6843.76 |
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6845.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
轉型升級的發展條例 |
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6845.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
6847.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
修正草案 |
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6847.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
6849.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
針對中小企業的特殊性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
6849.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
6851.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
6851.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
6853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
優化現行的租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
6853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
6855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
6855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
6857.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
把這個相關的租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
6857.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
6859.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
能夠切合中小企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
6859.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
6861.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
6861.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
6863.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
不過我要強調租稅只是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
6863.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
6865.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
輔助的措施 |
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6865.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
6867.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
絕對不是一個 |
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6867.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
6869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
促進產業升級的關鍵 |
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6869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
6871.76 |
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我想這一點大家都能夠認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
6871.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
6873.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
這是一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
6873.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
6875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
第二點我想這個促進產業的發展 |
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6875.76 |
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6877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
除了租稅獎勵之外 |
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6877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
6879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
我覺得 |
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6879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
6881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
金融的資源是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
6881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
6883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
比如說最近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
6883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
6885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
台美關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
6885.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
6887.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
台美關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
6887.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
6889.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
剛開始的時候我們被宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
6889.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
6891.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
我們客製的關稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
6891.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
6893.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
達到32% |
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6893.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
6895.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
所以那時候政府還有民間 |
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6895.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
6897.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
都非常的緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
6897.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
6899.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
所以那時候我們提供相關的 |
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6899.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
6901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
支持的措施 |
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6901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
6903.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
從114年8月7號 |
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6903.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
6905.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
開始就提供 |
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6905.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
6907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這個付額條件的出口廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
6907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
6909.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
那麼就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
6909.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
6911.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
可以有一個融資利息 |
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6911.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
6913.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
減碼的措施 |
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6913.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
6915.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
在11月6日底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
6915.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
6917.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
已經協助了4000多家的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
6917.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
6919.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
減收利息達到將近40億 |
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6919.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
6921.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
其中中華企業 |
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6921.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
6923.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
大概4萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
6923.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
6925.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
4000家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
6925.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
6927.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
減收利息 |
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6927.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
6929.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
也是相當高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
6931.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
6933.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
6933.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
6935.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
我要特別報告就是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
6935.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
6937.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
因應中小企業的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
6937.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
6939.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
因為中小企業 |
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6939.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
6941.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
在我們國內比例非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
6941.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
6943.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
非常非常高 |
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6943.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
6945.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
那為了協助中小企業取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
6945.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
6947.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
營運跟發展資金的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
6947.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
6949.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
那麼宮古行庫配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
6949.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
6951.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
相關的部會像國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
6951.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
6953.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
經濟部那我們就推辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
6953.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
6955.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
很多政治性的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
6955.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
6957.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
6957.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
6959.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
依照企業的需求提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
6959.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
6961.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
像周轉金剛才張教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
6961.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
6963.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
也提到周轉金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
6963.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
6965.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
還有資本性的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
6965.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
6967.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
還有營運資金的相關融資 |
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6967.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
6969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
6969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
6971.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
到今年6月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
6971.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
6973.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
宮古行庫對中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
6973.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
6975.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
放款的戶數達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
6975.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
6977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
28萬多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
6977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
6979.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
放款餘額達到6.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
6979.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
6981.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
6.08兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
6981.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
6983.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
比去年增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
6983.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
6985.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
4.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
6985.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
6987.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
6987.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
6989.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
第三個我要跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
6989.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
6991.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
除了剛才政治性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
6991.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
6993.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
這些金融協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
6993.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
6995.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
之外我們宮古行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
6995.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
6997.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
我們也督導宮古行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
6997.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
6999.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
按照用他自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
6999.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7001.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7001.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7003.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
自由資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7003.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7005.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
那麼就推出一個中小 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7005.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7007.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
及微型企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7007.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7009.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
振興的融資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7009.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7011.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
那麼額度是3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7011.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7013.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
到目前已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7013.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7015.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
帶走了2兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7015.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7017.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7017.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7019.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
可見民間的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7019.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7021.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
對資金的需求非常的殷切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7021.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7023.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7023.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7025.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
這一部分我們預定是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7025.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7027.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
明年的社會底會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7027.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7029.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
屆滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7029.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7031.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
但是現在已經核帶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7031.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7033.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
2.2兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7033.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7035.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
總額在3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7035.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7037.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
所以我們在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7037.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7039.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
如果企業界有需求的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7039.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7041.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
我們到時候再跟宮古行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7041.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7043.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
來協商看是不是來提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7043.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7045.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7045.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7047.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
貸款的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7047.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
來滿足企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
這個他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
這個經營的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7055.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
那另外有一點就是剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7055.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7057.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
講到說那我們企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7057.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7059.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7059.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7061.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
可以形化發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7061.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7063.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
有些發展很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7063.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7065.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
有些發展的不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7063.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
那剛才講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
那些發展好的能不能回饋到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
我們的一些弱勢的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7071.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7071.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7073.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
那這一部分我也跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7073.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
一點就是說我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7077.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
財政部會持續推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7077.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7079.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
各項的稅制改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7079.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7081.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
讓高資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7081.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7083.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
跟高所得者負擔合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7083.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7085.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
稅賦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7085.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
比如說這個我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7089.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
精進房地合一所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7089.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7091.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
的稅的稅制那麼最高的稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7091.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7093.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
達到45% |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7093.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7095.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
而且將房地合一稅的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7095.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7097.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
那麼就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7097.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7099.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
作為這個長照的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7099.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7101.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
或者是住宅政治的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7101.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7103.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
來改善所得分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7103.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7105.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
那麼十四以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7105.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7107.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
房地合一稅的所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7107.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7109.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
的依住長照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7109.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7111.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
支出達到3200多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7111.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7113.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
那麼另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7113.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7115.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
從113年1月到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7115.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7117.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
115年6月起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7117.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7119.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
依住住宅支出達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7119.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7121.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
超過300億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7121.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7123.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7123.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7125.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
我覺得很重要一點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7125.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7127.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
我們除了希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7127.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7129.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
我們的產業越來越大越來越 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7129.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7131.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
強之外我們希望就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7131.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7133.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
我們拿到的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7133.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7135.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
那麼我們可以回饋到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7135.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7137.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
一般的弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7137.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7139.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
所以我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7139.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7141.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
稅制上我們就在減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7141.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7143.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
受雇的勞工育兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7143.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
還有高齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7147.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
身障或者是租屋家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7147.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7149.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
的租稅負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7149.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
比如說像最近我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7151.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
優化所得稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
那麼對基本的生活所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
費用不予課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7157.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
那另外我們也提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
這個標準扣除額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7163.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
等四項的扣除額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7163.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7165.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
那另外我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7165.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7167.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
這個擴大並提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7167.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
幼兒學前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
特別扣除額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
並將房屋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
租資改為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
特別扣除額並調高扣除額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
也就達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7181.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
18萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7181.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
那麼另外也調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
長照的扣除額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7187.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
達到18萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7187.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
那另外當然我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
還有配合物價調整相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7193.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
這個免稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7193.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
還有相關稅率集計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7197.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7197.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7199.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
那我跟各位報告一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7199.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
那根據我們的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
113年度全國申報戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
列報總扣除額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
扣除額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
我現在講扣除額占全國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
綜合所得總額比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
達到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
59%也就是41% |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
會被課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
59%都課不到稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
那如果用加戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
納稅的情形來分析的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
有317萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
317萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7229.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
也就是占 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7229.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7231.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
總申報數的45% |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7231.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7233.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
那是不需要繳稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7233.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7235.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
稅率是0的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7235.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7237.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
那麼247萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7237.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7239.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
那麼占比是35% |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7239.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7241.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
那麼他的稅率是5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7241.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7243.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7243.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7245.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
所以把這兩個加起來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7245.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7247.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
那麼是用0稅率跟5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7247.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7249.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7249.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7251.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
就是8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7251.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
就是80% |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7255.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
那麼他是可以講說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7255.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
這一部分來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
也是實現政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7261.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7261.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7263.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
弱勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7263.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7265.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
包括新思所得者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7265.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
跟終底所得者的家庭的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7267.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7269.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
那另外相對來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7270.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
同一個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7274.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
那麼中和所得稅結論申報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7274.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
是用最高稅率的40%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
高所得者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7280.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
那麼占總申報數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
申報數的比重才1% |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7283.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
可是他負擔的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7283.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
他繳納的稅是占比將近50% |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7289.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
也是1%的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7289.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
他繳的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7293.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
占將近50% |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7293.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
所以我們就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7297.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
能夠透過量能課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7297.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
來促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
租稅的公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7303.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
讓我們的一些稅收能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7303.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7305.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
除了增加我們稅收之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7305.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7307.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
我們希望用這樣的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7307.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7309.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
來協助那些弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7309.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7311.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
那最後一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7311.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7313.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
我補充一點就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7313.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7315.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
我們透過租稅手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7315.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7317.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
但是很多人沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7317.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7319.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
適用租稅的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7319.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7321.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
沒辦法適用租稅優惠 |
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7321.84 |
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7323.84 |
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因為他就是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7323.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7325.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
適用租稅是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7325.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7327.24 |
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所以我們要做什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7327.24 |
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7329.24 |
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移轉支出是很重要的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7331.97 |
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7333.97 |
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考量到部分的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7333.97 |
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7335.97 |
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沒辦法透過租金減免來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7335.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7337.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
所以剛才我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7337.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7339.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
一定要透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7339.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
這個移轉支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7345.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
我跟各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7349.85 |
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我們現在的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
我們總預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7353.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
那麼這個社福支出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7353.85 |
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7355.85 |
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佔比一項都到 |
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7355.85 |
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7357.85 |
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26.5%到27.5%之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7357.85 |
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7359.85 |
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是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7361.85 |
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所有的政務支出當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7361.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
比重是最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
那麼這用在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
用在社會的給付 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
用在社會保險社會救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
還有相關的社會福利等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
來協助真正需要協助的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7377.85 |
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我們也提供比如像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7377.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7379.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
最近有很多人有些有房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7379.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7381.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
有些沒有房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7381.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7383.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
那對沒有房子的人我們提供這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7383.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7385.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
房租的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7385.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
那對想要購房的我們提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7389.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
清安的這個利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7389.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7391.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
剛才莊教授提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7391.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
好像這個好像不是很完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
不過這部分我們會逐步來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
興建撤載 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
我覺得這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7403.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
我們知道歐洲很多國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7403.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
他自由住宅的比例都很低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7405.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7407.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
他大部分都是用租的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7407.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7409.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
大家都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7409.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7411.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
所以我們就是要透過社會住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7411.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
將來看能不能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
以租代買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7417.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
讓這個居住正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7417.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7419.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
能夠落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7419.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7421.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
那另外最近大家都從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7421.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7423.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
在媒體上可以看到我們政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7423.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7425.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
在推動台灣人口的對策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7425.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7427.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7427.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7429.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
家庭支持篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7429.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7431.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
透過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7431.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7433.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
從這個生育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7433.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7435.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
養育還有就是教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7435.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7437.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
三大階段提出這個十八項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7437.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7439.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7439.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7441.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
那這個我就不用講太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7441.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7443.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
因為最近才有最新的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7443.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7445.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
所以我不用講太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7445.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7447.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
我特別強調一點成長帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7447.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
那這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
適用對象是零到十八歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
最少可以零到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
我們算起來最少是零到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
一百零八萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7457.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7459.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
那是本金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7459.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7461.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
如果是有操作收益的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7461.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
那就更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7465.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
所以這一部分我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7465.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7467.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7467.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7469.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
我們把多的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7469.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
我們不是用來普發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
而是用在真正需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
幫助的人身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
那最後一點我特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
報告就是K型化的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
不是台灣這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
這個是各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
各國共同面臨的一個挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
所以我們必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
密切關注其他國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7493.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
一些具體做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7493.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7495.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
在適合我們的國情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7495.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7497.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
還有財政可以負擔的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7497.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7499.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
那麼積極提供各項的具體政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7499.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7501.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
來建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7501.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7503.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
更公平合理的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7503.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7505.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我們希望我們的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7505.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
不僅可以來支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7509.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
我們一般的政務支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7509.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7511.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
更希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7511.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7513.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
把這些稅收能夠來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7513.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7515.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
那些真正需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7515.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7517.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
幫助的弱勢團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7517.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7519.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
那我們建構一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7519.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7521.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
就是一方面有個成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7521.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7523.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
又可以平衡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7523.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7525.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
一個這樣的一個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7525.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7527.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
以上做報告謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7527.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7529.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
好謝謝阮正士 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7529.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7531.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
剛剛的回應跟說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7531.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7533.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
除了現在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7533.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7535.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
也好行政院也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7535.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7537.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
提出來相關的在教文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7537.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7539.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
在社服上的一些很多的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7539.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7541.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
希望照顧更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7541.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7543.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
國人之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7543.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7545.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
我們更期待的是財政部也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7545.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7547.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
藉今天公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7547.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7549.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
聽到各個專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7549.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7551.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
教授還有產業面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7551.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7553.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
面臨的問題政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7553.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7555.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
應該有更多不同的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7555.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7557.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
來解決了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7557.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7559.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
除了剛剛我們提的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7559.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7561.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
社服做更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7561.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7563.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
公共建設之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7563.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7565.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
現在台灣的主要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7565.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7567.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
產業面各個產業無論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7567.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7569.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
傳產還是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7569.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
再生醫療等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7573.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
我覺得政府在現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7573.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
7575.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
應該要思考用更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
7575.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
7577.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
跨部會的工具來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
7577.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
7579.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
協助他們這個是我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
7579.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
7581.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
後續今天我們有回應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
7581.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
7583.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
希望財政部相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
7583.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
7585.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
一併提出更多的好的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
7585.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
7587.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
來解決相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
7587.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
7589.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
第二位我邀請我們金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
7589.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
7591.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
的副主委陳副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
7591.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
7593.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
7603.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
7605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
主席各委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
7605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
7607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
以及各位一個先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
7607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
7609.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
今天我們財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
7609.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
7611.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
召開面對K型經濟問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
7611.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
7613.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
行政部門如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
7613.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
7615.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
引導經濟成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
7615.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
7617.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
均衡發展分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
7617.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
7619.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
於全體勞工在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
7619.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
7621.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
對於這個K型經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
7621.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
7623.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
的一個風險或這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
7623.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
7625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
以及如何將成果的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
7625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
7627.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
引導其實金管會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
7627.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
7629.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
這邊大概有兩個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
7629.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
7631.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
雙軌並進的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
7631.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
7633.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
當然第一個是所謂的資本市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
7633.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
7635.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
7635.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
7637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
第二個是一個金融服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
7637.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
7639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
的部分當然我也先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
7639.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
7641.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
針對賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
7641.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
7643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
賴時保賴委員有提到的剛才提到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
7643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
7645.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
浦域指數的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
7645.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
7647.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
那我們能理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
7647.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
7649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
其實現在的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
7649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
7651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
是有一個兩極化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
7651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
7653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
的一個走法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
7653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
7655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
K型經濟兩極化的走法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
7655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
7657.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
而浦域系列不是為了浦域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
7657.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
7659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
而浦域而是其實真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
7659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
7661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
7661.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
7663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
我們思考點是一個提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
7663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
7665.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
能見度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
7665.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
7667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
提升能見度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
7667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
7669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
提升能見度讓這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
7669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
7671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
其實是優秀而好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
7671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
7673.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
7673.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
7675.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
也能讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
7675.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
7677.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
投資市場資本市場看得見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
7677.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
7679.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
所以是說在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
7679.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
7681.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
我們透過法人說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
7681.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
7683.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
產業論壇或企業價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
7683.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
7685.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
提升計畫在這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
7685.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
7687.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
再搭配上一個所謂的浦域指數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
7687.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
7689.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
而浦域指數在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
7689.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
7691.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
地方其實我們常常講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
7691.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
7693.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
一開始一定是技術先行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
7693.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
7695.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
在商業模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
7695.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
7697.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
我們不單單會針對一個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
7697.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
7699.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
好的中小企業這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
7699.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
7701.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
部分其實比如說高價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
7701.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
7703.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
高動能成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
7703.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
7705.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
我們會一個系列式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
7705.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
7707.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
一個退出我想再加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
7707.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
7709.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
將來的也有可能會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
7709.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
7711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
商業模式進來變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
7711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
7713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
一個ETF的指數或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
7713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
7715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
商品我想是慢慢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
7715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
7717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
就會提升了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
7717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
7719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
我們的一個制度性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
7719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
7721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
解決制度性的解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
7721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
7723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
我們在資本市場股市中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
7723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
7725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
大家比較少看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
7725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
7727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
那個部分或現在沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
7727.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
7729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
專注到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
7729.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
7731.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
而對於呢我們的資本市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
7731.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
7733.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
促進產業發展成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
7733.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
7735.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
共享其實大概也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
7735.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
7737.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
由獲利來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
7737.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
7739.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
帶動員工薪酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
7739.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
7741.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
的一個同步提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
7741.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
7743.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
也就是說我們看一下這個數據上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
7743.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
7745.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
在114年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
7745.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
7747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
上市櫃公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
7747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
7749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
上市櫃公司它的薪資平常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
7749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
7751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
成長比例是6.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
7751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
7753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
上市以及上櫃的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
7753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
7755.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
3.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
7755.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
7757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
3.66所以我們大概可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
7757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
7759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
看到一個所謂的企業獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
7759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
7761.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
跟員工薪酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
7761.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
7763.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
呈現一個同步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
7763.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
7765.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
成長的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
7765.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
7767.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
7767.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
7769.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
那再來呢其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
7769.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
7771.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
成果如何化成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
7771.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
7773.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
讓員工能享受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
7773.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
7775.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
這我一直強調是制度性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
7775.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
7777.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
制度性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
7777.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
7779.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
所以是說呢其實在我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
7779.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
7781.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
113年8月7號的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
7781.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
7783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
我們的證券交易法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
7783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
7785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
是四條的一個修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
7785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
7787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
這是要求上市櫃公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
7787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
7789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
7789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
7791.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
張誠明定年度盈餘提拨一定比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
7791.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
7793.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
給予基層員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
7793.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
7795.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
調整薪資或分派盈餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
7795.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
7797.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
其實也包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
7797.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
7799.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
公司法235條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
7799.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
7801.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
的一個加薪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
7801.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
7803.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
以及呢其實除了這個以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
7803.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
7805.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
分紅入骨的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
7805.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
7807.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
部分的話其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
7807.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
7809.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
我們在所謂公司法167條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
7809.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
7811.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
267以下其實這都有一個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
7811.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
7813.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
一些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
7813.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
7815.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
這也是透過一個制度性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
7815.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
7817.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
制度性的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
7817.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
7819.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
解決讓一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
7819.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
7821.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
企業獲利成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
7821.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
7823.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
搭配著員工以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
7823.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
7825.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
我們的特別是基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
7825.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
7827.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
部分也要拿到一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
7827.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
7829.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
我們的經濟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
7829.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
7831.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
的一個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
7831.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
7833.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
而在於我們金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
7833.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
7835.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
部分我們對於IPO就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
7835.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
7837.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
要進入我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
7837.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
7839.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
上市上櫃的我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
7839.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
7841.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
刺激市場裡面呢他呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
7841.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
7843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
基層員工也要納入IPO |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
7843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
7845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
的一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
7845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
7847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
也就是說我們在上市上櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
7847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
7849.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
審查準則當中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
7849.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
7851.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
也要求這些公司呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
7851.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
7853.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
必須揭露員工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
7853.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
7855.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
範圍以及最近一年度呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
7855.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
7857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
基層員工平均經常性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
7857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
7859.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
薪資要達到基本公司的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
7859.71 |
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7861.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
1.3倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
7862.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
7864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
而在今年呢我們也將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
7864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
7866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
在全體基層我們現在對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
7866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
7868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
新進的就是最 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
7868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
7870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
正常我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
7870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
7872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
新進的基層員工 |
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7872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
7874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
新人這個地方呢他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
7874.25 |
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7876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
薪資也要納入審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
7876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
7878.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
透過我們的資訊揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
7878.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
7880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
跟申請上市櫃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
7880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
7882.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
7882.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
7884.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
引導企業建立合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
7884.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
7886.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
一個機制 |
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7886.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
7888.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
而在透明度的一個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
7888.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
7890.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
我們也要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
7890.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
7892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
這個揭露所謂的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
7892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
7894.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
中位數的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
7894.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
7896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
而對於異常低薪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
7896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
7898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
一個公司例如員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
7898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
7900.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
薪資未滿50萬或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
7900.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
7902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
每股盈餘呢他是成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
7902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
7904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
但是呢員工薪資標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
7904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
7906.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
平均數呢卻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
7906.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
7908.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
怎樣呢沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
7908.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
7910.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
達到一定的成長的時候呢其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
7910.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
7912.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
我們都要他申報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
7912.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
7914.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
所謂的經營績效跟員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
7914.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
7916.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
薪酬的一個關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
7916.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
7918.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
而在ESG的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
7918.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
7920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
的一個評鑑當中呢我們也納入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
7920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
7922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
他的一個指數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
7922.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
7924.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
在我們的台灣高薪指數以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
7924.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
7926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
薪酬指數呢這些呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
7926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
7928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
也都有讓資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
7928.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
7930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
引導我們讓社會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
7930.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
7932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
這些是好的企業我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
7932.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
7934.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
要引導資金流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
7934.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
7936.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
重視員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
7936.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
7938.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
薪酬跟永續經營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
7938.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
7940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
一個企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
7940.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
7942.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
資本市場部分其實剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
7942.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
7944.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
有提到其實我們也做到一個多層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
7944.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
7946.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
的一個市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
7946.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
7948.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
剛剛劉所長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
7948.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
7950.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
劉修夢所長其實有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
7950.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
7952.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
我們創櫃板我們創櫃板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
7952.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
7954.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
在日本也是其實他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
7954.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
7956.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
完全沒有一個所謂的最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
7956.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
7958.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
資本額的一個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
7958.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
7960.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
我們的思考點也是一個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
7960.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
7962.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
加速器的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
7962.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
7964.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
加速器的一個概念或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
7964.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
7966.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
是一個育成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
7966.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
7968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
讓我們呢去免費提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
7968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
7970.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
一個會計內控制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
7970.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
7972.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
跟資訊揭露跟法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
7972.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
7974.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
而且呢在金融 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
7974.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
7976.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
服務方面金融服務方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
7976.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
7978.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
我們金管會也持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
7978.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
7980.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
推動本國銀行加強辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
7980.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
7982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
中小企業放款的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
7982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
7984.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
一個方案你營造 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
7984.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
7986.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
有利中小企業融資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
7986.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
7988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
一個環境我們也會在總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
7988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
7990.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
會議上表達表揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
7990.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
7992.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
中小企業放款技巧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
7992.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
7994.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
優良的一個銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
7994.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
7996.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
而保險業部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
7996.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
7998.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
我們也會提供的投資跟放款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
7998.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8000.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
以協助我們的產業升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8000.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8002.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
跟淨零轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8003.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8005.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
也就是說呢在我們大概 |
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8005.84 |
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8007.84 |
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資本市場金融服務雙北並進 |
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8007.84 |
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8009.84 |
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大概有四個吧第一個是所謂的 |
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8009.84 |
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8011.84 |
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精準的金融支持 |
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8012.57 |
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8014.57 |
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第二協助非AI產業 |
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8014.57 |
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8016.57 |
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這些中小企業能沒看到 |
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8016.57 |
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8018.57 |
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它價值升級而不是一個 |
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8018.57 |
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8020.57 |
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所謂的成長成本的 |
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8020.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8022.57 |
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一個競爭而三呢 |
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8022.57 |
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8024.57 |
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是一個強化資本市場分配 |
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8024.57 |
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8026.57 |
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成果的一個誘因 |
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8026.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8028.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
以及呢擴大金融包容 |
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8028.57 |
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8030.57 |
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以及資產形成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8030.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8032.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
一個機會這也是呢 |
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8032.57 |
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8034.57 |
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我的金管會一直 |
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8034.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8036.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
持續努力的目標 |
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8036.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8038.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8039.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8041.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
好謝謝感謝我們陳昱良 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8041.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8043.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
陳昱良金管會的副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8043.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8045.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
接下來我邀請第三位 |
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8045.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8047.11 |
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我們央行的副總裁 |
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8047.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8049.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
嚴副總裁 |
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8049.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8051.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
來做回應謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
主席各位學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
我們央行有三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
回應意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8072.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8074.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
第一點就剛才蔡教授和專教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8074.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8076.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
對於央行房地產政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8076.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8078.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8078.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8080.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8080.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8082.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8084.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
我們每一季在開理事會之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8084.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8086.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
我們內部都會對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8086.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8088.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
單權房地產的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8088.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8090.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
政策做一個檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8090.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
所以我想我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
聽到大家剛才提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8094.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
意見我們在每一次理事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8098.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
之前我們都會去檢視我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8098.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
政策是不是有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8102.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
修正的部分第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8102.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8104.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
是關於這個今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8104.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8106.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
公聽會的討論提供的第三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8106.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8108.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
有關於行政部門 |
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8108.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8110.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
對產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8110.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8112.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
資金支持部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8112.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8114.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
我想我們簡單的說明就是說 |
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8115.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8117.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
央行將持續因應國內外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8117.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
經濟金融情勢的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
實施公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8123.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
市場操作以維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8123.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8125.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
銀行流動銀行體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8125.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8127.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
流動性與市場利率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8127.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8129.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
於一個適當的水準 |
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8129.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8131.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
這個有助於搭配 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8131.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8133.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
政府產業政策的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8133.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8135.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8134.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
第三點我們想說明的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8138.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
在討論提供第四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8138.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8140.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
有關於行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8140.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8142.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
降低物價壓力的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
其實長期以來我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
利用妥適的貨幣政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8151.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
根據當時候的國內外經濟金融情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8155.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
我們的基本的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8155.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8157.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
是以維持物價穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8157.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8159.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
來降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8159.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8161.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
民眾物價上漲的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8161.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8163.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
我想這也是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8163.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8165.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
央行的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8167.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
央行法所規定的一個職責所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8171.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
以上簡單的說明提供大家參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8171.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8173.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8174.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8176.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
好非常感謝我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8176.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8178.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
顏副總裁的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8178.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8180.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
也希望顏副總裁針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8180.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8182.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
剛才包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8182.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8184.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
傳產業房地產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8184.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8186.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
提出來相關的議題跟意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8186.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8188.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
帶回去做一些參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8188.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8190.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
接下來邀請我們國發會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8190.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8192.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
我們的副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8192.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8194.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
陳副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8194.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8196.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
做回應謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8206.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8208.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
張委各位專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8208.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8210.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
各級官代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8210.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8212.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8212.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8214.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
國發會非常高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8214.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8216.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
能夠聽到今天現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8216.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8218.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
各位專家委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8218.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8220.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
學者給我們政府的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8220.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8222.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8222.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8224.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
國發會就剛才所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8224.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8226.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
相關的內容與提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8226.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8228.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
我們就政府整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8228.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8230.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
政策規劃的思維跟做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8230.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8234.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
以下的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8234.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
首先根據剛才大家的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8238.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8238.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8240.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
全球供應鏈的重組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8240.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8242.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
帶動包括台商回台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8242.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8244.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
擴增國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8244.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8246.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
產能以及AI的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8246.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8248.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
商機的蓬勃發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8248.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8250.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
還有台灣在高科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8250.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8252.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
的全球供應鏈方面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8252.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8254.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
關鍵地位造成了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8254.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8256.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
台灣最近的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8256.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8258.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
高速的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8258.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
我想這是大家都有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8262.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
在產業別部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8262.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8264.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
AI的創新發展以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8265.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8267.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
其實我們也看到多數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8267.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8269.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
傳統的製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8269.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
有在做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8273.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
高質化的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8273.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
剛才有提到一些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
包括塑膠、紡織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
電力設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8281.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
配備以及機械設備等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8281.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8283.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
113米的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8283.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
附加價值率這些都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
有提升的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
傳統產業部分的景氣改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
我們也可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
包括半導體供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
它的上游、中游等等這些的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8297.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
產商因為供應鏈的需求成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
也有出口回升的一些態勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
整體看來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
其實台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8307.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
最近幾年的景氣可以說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8307.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8309.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
尤其是今年是特別的熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8309.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8311.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
政府在刺激 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8311.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8313.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
均衡發展的作為方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8313.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8315.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
其實我們並不是只有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8315.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8317.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8317.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8319.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
我們是想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8318.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
把這個AI的紅利能夠擴散出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8320.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
那我們有三個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
第一個是產業的創新發展部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
第二個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
政府怎麼樣鼓勵這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
AI從AI部分以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8334.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
企業能夠加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8334.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8336.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
剛才幾位學者也都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8336.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8338.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
第三個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8338.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8340.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
國人的負擔要怎麼樣去減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8340.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8342.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
首先在第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8342.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8344.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
就是產業的創新發展部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8344.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8346.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8346.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8348.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
AI的負能這個已經是現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8349.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8351.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
未來的發展趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8351.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8353.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
那要AI負能一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8353.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8355.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
擴散到百工百業去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8355.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8357.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
讓AI能夠走進各行各業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8357.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8359.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
所以我們是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8359.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8361.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
提出一個AI新時代建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8361.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8363.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
我想各位都非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8363.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8365.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
這個新時代建設這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8365.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8367.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
是透過智慧應用跟關鍵技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8367.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8369.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
以及數位基盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8369.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8371.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
我們希望比如說在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8371.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8373.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
智慧應用部分可以協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8373.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8375.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
製造業、服務業、中小企業、農漁業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8375.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8377.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
等等百工百業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8377.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8379.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
都能夠導入AI的智慧應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8379.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8381.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
來提高企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8381.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8383.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
營運的效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8384.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8386.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
或者他們獲利以及他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8386.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
有一些新的商業發展模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8390.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
有關於中小微企業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8390.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8392.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
升級轉型部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8392.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
剛才長官們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8396.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
已經有提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8396.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8398.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
這個預計在我們是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8398.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
在8月份傳報行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
經濟部會提報行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
然後9月份會送請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
立法院來審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
我們現在中小微對我們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8410.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8410.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
因為我們台灣最主要都還是中小微的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
我們希望能夠擴大研發頭底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8418.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
然後普惠金融等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8419.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
中小微能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8423.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
有提供加薪跟增固的這些優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8423.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
來提供他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8427.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
整體的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8429.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8431.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
那也有老師有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8431.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8433.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8433.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
有關於資金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
有國發基金這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
國發基金這個其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8441.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
有透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8441.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8443.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
有透過主題式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8443.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8445.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
百億的投資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8445.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8447.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
讓這些資金能夠引導到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8447.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8449.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
我們最主要是具有發展潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8449.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8451.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
還有政策意義的產業的領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8451.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8453.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
那人才的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8453.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8455.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
AI人才呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8455.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8457.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
我們是希望說AI的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8457.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8459.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
生態系呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8459.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8461.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
除了透過這個培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8461.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8463.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
新世代的人才以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8463.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8465.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
我們希望說能夠強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8465.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8467.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
產業的人才培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8467.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8469.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
以及提升在地人才的培育量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8469.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8471.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
換句話說就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8471.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8473.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
AI的人才紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8473.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8475.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
能夠向百分百來擴散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8475.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8477.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
那第二大部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8477.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8479.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
加薪的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8479.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8481.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
政府是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8482.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8484.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
政府自己是作為一個加薪的引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8484.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8486.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
然後薪資能夠透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8486.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8488.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
然後中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8488.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8490.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
這個也給他們這個 |
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8490.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8492.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
透過這樣的能力以後 |
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8492.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8494.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
他們也能夠有帶動的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8494.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8496.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
加薪的誘因的作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8496.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8498.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
那各位也有看到最近就是 |
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8499.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8501.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
有關於最低薪資的這一塊 |
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8501.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8503.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那最低薪資法是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8503.99 |
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8505.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
就是已經是 |
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8505.99 |
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8507.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
專法了 |
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8509.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8511.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
未來呢我們是希望說能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8511.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8513.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
保障弱勢勞工的基本所需 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8513.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8515.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
那第三塊的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8515.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
8517.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
是減輕民眾的租稅負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
8517.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
8519.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
那剛才財政部長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
8519.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
8521.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
已經有提到有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
8521.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
8523.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
租稅的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
8523.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
8525.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
減免減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
8525.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
8527.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
負擔的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
8527.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
8529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
那另外還有一塊我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
8529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
8531.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
特別要提出來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
8531.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
8533.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
其實為了要穩定國內的這個物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
8533.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
8535.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
行政院有多次有召開這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
8535.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
8537.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
會議要穩定這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
8537.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
8539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
有注意了國內外的物價的這個情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
8539.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
8541.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
然後推動一些相關的物價的穩定的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
8541.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
8543.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
那各位也可以感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
8543.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
8545.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
像中東情勢造成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
8545.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
8547.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
國內的物價的這個波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
8547.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
8549.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
所以在包括氣燃油還有民生用戶天然氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
8549.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
8551.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
統中瓦斯還有電價等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
8551.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
8553.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
目前都是有特別討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
8553.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
8555.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
那我們最主要是要照顧民眾的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
8563.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
8565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
那總之來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
8565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
8567.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
在政府的考量部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
8567.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
8569.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
AI驅動的新經濟成長原則上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
8569.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
8571.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
這是一個大家都認同的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
8571.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
8573.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
未來的主要的發展模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
8573.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
8575.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
8575.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
8577.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
我們還是會用創新驅動或 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
8577.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
8579.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
數位轉型以及淨零轉型等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
8579.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
8581.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
最主要是要把AI紅綠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
8581.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
8583.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
擴散到各行各業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
8583.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
8585.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
然後我們會去扶植傳統的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
8585.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
8587.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
以及中小微的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
8587.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
8589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
我們希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
8589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
8591.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
企業跟勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
8591.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
8593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
跟大家一起能夠共享成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
8593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
8595.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
8597.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
8599.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
謝謝我們國發會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
8599.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
8603.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
產業發展處的副處長陳瓊華副處長的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
8603.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
8607.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
接下來我邀請我們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
8607.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
8609.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
我們綜合規劃司的林司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
8609.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
8611.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
謝謝歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
8625.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
8627.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
主席以及各位在場委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
8627.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
8629.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
以及我們的先進的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
8629.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
8631.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
還有各單位的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
8631.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
8633.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
8633.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
8635.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
謝謝今天陳磨委員會的邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
8635.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
8637.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
來參與今天的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
8637.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
8643.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
那也謝謝各位先進跟學者專家的不吝的視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
8643.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
8647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
那針對剛剛各位先進提到的一些相關的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
8647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
8651.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
我也代表經濟部在這裡做一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
8651.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
8653.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
那經濟部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
8653.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
8655.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
經濟部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
8655.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
8657.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
除了優勢產業的重視以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
8657.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
8659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
其實輔導傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
8659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
8661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
跟內需型產業朝高質化發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
8661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
8663.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
其實也是經濟部非常重要的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
8663.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
8665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
所以在傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
8665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
8667.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
跟商業服務業的升級轉型的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
8667.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
8671.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
我們也繼續很努力的在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
8671.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
8673.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
近年來我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
8673.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
8677.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
在這個半導體跟高科技的持續成長之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
8677.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
8679.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
其實我們也積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
8679.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
8683.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
我們也積極的引導國內的傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
8683.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
8685.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
像金屬加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
8685.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
8687.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
或是像塑膠產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
8687.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
8689.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
以及光學等等的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
8689.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
8691.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
就是我們台灣其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
8691.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
8695.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
大部分中小企業或傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
8695.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
8697.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
都在這些產業的這個分布之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
8697.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
8699.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
所以我們也希望帶動這些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
8699.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
8703.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
跨入我們這些優勢產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
8704.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
8706.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
設備及材料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
8706.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
8708.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
來提升它產品的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
8708.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
8710.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
透過這些傳產的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
8710.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
8712.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
推動他們在高質化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
8712.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
8714.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
跟技術研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
8714.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
8716.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
以及我們的產業輔導方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
8716.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
8718.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
也會多與協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
8718.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
8720.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
希望我們來強化整個所有傳統產業的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
8720.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
8724.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
並且也能夠強化我們供應鏈的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
8724.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
8728.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
另外我們在商業服務的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
8728.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
8730.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
也就是剛剛有些先進提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
8730.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
8732.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
一些地方型或內需型的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
8732.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
8734.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
像零售、餐飲、生活服務等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
8734.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
8738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
這些或市集或商圈等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
8738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
8740.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
這些我們也都很積極在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
8740.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
8742.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
輔導他們在地發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
8742.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
8746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
並且讓他們在環境的基礎建設優化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
8746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
8748.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
市集的這個品牌能夠提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
8748.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
8750.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
商圈的消費環境能夠美化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
8750.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
8752.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
來提升我們這些在地產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
8752.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
8756.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
商業服務的經營的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
8756.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
8760.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
另外經濟部為了各行各業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
8760.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
8762.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
經濟部為了各行各業、各產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
8762.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
8766.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
所以我們也有成立跨部會的產業輔導團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
8766.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
8768.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
也希望藉由跨部會的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
8768.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
8772.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
從金融、從人才、從市場擴展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
8772.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
8776.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
一直到節能、永續或是跟勞動部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
8776.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
8778.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
在勞動升級方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
8778.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
8780.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
我們也都積極的在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
8780.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
8782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
希望能夠藉由這樣的輔導團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
8782.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
8784.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
能夠到各行各業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
8784.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
8788.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
到各地去做輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
8789.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
8791.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
這個部分已經是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
8791.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
8794.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
進一步努力在進行的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
8795.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
8798.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
另外在產業創新條例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
8798.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
8801.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
我們還是繼續推動我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
8801.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
8804.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
產業的研發、投資及人才培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
8804.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
8807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
希望能夠藉由產創條例的鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
8807.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
8809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
跟租稅的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
8809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
8812.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
來幫產業做很多的升級轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
8814.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
8817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
最後當然我也要稍微說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
8817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
8821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
在未來剛剛我們幾位各部會的長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
8821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
8822.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
也有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
8822.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
8824.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
所謂的中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
8824.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
8826.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
現在目前正在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
8826.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
8829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
這個中小企業條例的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
8829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
8832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
那未來中小企業條例會更名為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
8832.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
8835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
中小微企業轉型升級發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
8835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
8838.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
那目前這個條例大概有幾個主軸的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
8838.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
8839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
8840.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
8844.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
一個是研發創新、轉型發展、通路的部件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
8844.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
8846.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
財務的隆通、輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
8846.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
8850.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
還有染財、留財及新創企業的培育等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
8850.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
8852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
那主要也是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
8852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
8855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
藉著這樣的幾個政策主軸的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
8855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
8858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
我們來擴大對微型企業的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
8858.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
8860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
希望能夠涵蓋我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
8860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
8864.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
170多萬家中小微企業的支持體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
8864.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
8866.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
協助一些小微的微型店家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
8866.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
8869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
擴大他的銷售量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
8869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
8872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
讓商圈、市場等等這些有特色的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
8872.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
8877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
地方特色產業跟旅遊能夠發展起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
8877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
8881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
另外第二個我們也會推動產業群聚的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
8881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
8883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
就如同剛剛先進有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
8883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
8885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
我們會用以大帶小 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
8885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
8887.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
來協助我們這些中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
8887.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
8890.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
來借借我們大型的企業的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
8890.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
8891.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
或是大型的通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
8891.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
8894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
或是平台、數位的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
8894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
8896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
做一些關鍵性技術的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
8896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
8898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
跟品牌的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
8898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
8902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
希望利用大的企業來帶動我們這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
8902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
8904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
中小微企業來共同發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
8904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
8906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
另外我們也會優化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
8906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
8909.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
研發發展支出投資的抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
8909.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
8911.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
希望能夠來提升我們這些中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
8911.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
8913.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
在研發的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
8913.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
8917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
另外還有就是我們會增加轉型設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
8917.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
8919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
購置的投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
8919.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
8922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
其實我們很多中小微企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
8922.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
8923.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
要朝高子化的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
8923.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
8925.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
其實他們還有一些設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
8925.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
8928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
尤其是在智慧機械或是數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
8928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
8931.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
或是人工智慧等等的軟硬體技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
8931.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
8934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
都必須要做一些升級跟改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
8934.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
8935.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
8935.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
8937.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
我們希望未來在修法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
8937.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
8940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
能夠提供這方面的一些租稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
8942.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
8945.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
另外我們當然也希望能夠優化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
8945.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
8948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
徵雇員工及員工加薪的租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
8948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
8951.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
其實在113年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
8951.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
8954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
其實中小企業發展條例的36條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
8954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
8958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
就有針對員工加薪的一些相關的租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
8958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
8960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
已經有去做修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
8960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
8963.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
那未來這個部分我們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
8963.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
8965.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
看看要不要放寬一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
8965.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
8968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
就是我們徵雇的一些基層員工的年齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
8968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
8972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
或是一些加薪保證等等這方面的一些相關優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
8972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
8974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
再予以提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
8974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
8977.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
那這個部分都是我們未來在中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
8977.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
8980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
這些升級轉型的條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
8980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
8983.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
目前的內容我們會來做努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
8983.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
8988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
那最後就是各位學者專家提供了非常多寶貴的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
8988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
8991.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
我們都會納入來做這個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
8991.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
8993.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
那以上說明謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
8994.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
8999.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
非常感謝我們經濟部眾和規劃司司長的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
8999.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9001.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
剛剛這些回應其實都非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9001.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9003.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
具體如何落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9003.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9007.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
我們也希望短時間之內公告出來讓國人都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9007.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9010.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
包括剛才有幾位學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9010.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9012.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
還有理事長所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9012.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9015.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
國家重點產業的支援跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9015.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9017.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
上個階段包括醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9017.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
生物醫療再生醫療產業是蔡政府所重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
後續我們如何去延續下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
我們希望有機會創造更多的護國群山 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9030.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
也希望相關的部會經濟部也做一下思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9030.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9034.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
好接下來邀請我們衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9034.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9036.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
我們衛福部今天來到現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9036.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9039.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
是我們醫事司還有食藥署的檢認記證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9039.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9042.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
我們派一位代表回應謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9053.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9057.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
主席還有我們的各位學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9057.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
還有工協會代表大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9063.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
衛生福利部在針對剛才在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9063.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
我們的工協會有提出的一些問題的這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9067.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9067.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9068.15 |
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因為也跟主席不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9068.15 |
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9070.15 |
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因為我們分別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9070.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9074.78 |
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那個有關醫療技術的部分是在我們衛福部醫事司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9074.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
然後因為屬於這個藥品的部分是我們食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
所以我們大概會分別來做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9082.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
不過都是才簡單的方式來做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9082.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9084.78 |
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那首先就是有提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9084.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
我目前的一個法規的部分好像還沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9089.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
那先報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9089.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
目前我們有16部的這個法規都已經發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9094.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
而且是在去年發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9094.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
因為這去年發布是為了要因應我們今年1月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9100.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
開始有關再生醫療這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9100.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9104.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
跟這個再生醫療治濟條例這兩個法律的這個施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9104.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9106.78 |
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所以執法規其實都ready |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9106.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
所以有關法規的部分已經ready |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9113.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
那當然這個法規是新發布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9113.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9114.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
法律也是新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9114.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9117.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
所以在後面的一個執行上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9117.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
如果有一些地方需要調整的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
在座可以給我們一些很具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9123.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
我們都可以來去做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9123.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
這個是有關法規的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
那第二個是有提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9126.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9128.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
審查的這個透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9128.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
因為的確就是衛福部從今年開始來去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9135.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
有關這個不管是再生醫療的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9135.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9136.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
或者是治濟的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9136.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9139.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
都有申請案也有核准案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9139.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9142.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
那目前的一個案件的一個審查的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9142.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9143.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
先做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9143.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9146.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
其實我們針對這個有關透明度的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9146.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9149.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
我們有在衛福部包含像我們醫師事實藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9149.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9153.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
在我們的網站上面都有再生醫療一個專區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9153.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9157.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
那在衛福部醫師事實的再生醫療技術的專區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9157.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
我們包含訂定所謂的申請的一個須知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
因為擔心醫療機構在申請面上不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9163.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9165.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
所以第一個我們訂申請須知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9165.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
那第二個我們也有所謂的線上申辦系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9169.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9170.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
讓大家很清楚知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9170.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9173.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
目前的一個申請的一個流程審查進度到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9173.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9175.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
什麼樣子的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9175.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
那第三個我們對於我們的審議的會議記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9178.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9180.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
是原則上才公開制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9180.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9183.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
因此有關記錄的這個部分也會公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9183.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
就大家如果不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9187.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
其實我們會盡量採取這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9187.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9191.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
不管是在流程上面或者是結果上面都會做公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9191.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9193.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
那另外還有一個搭配就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9193.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
我們也會有再生醫療的技術的一個年報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9196.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9199.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
我們透過我們的年報也會揭露說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9199.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9201.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我們大概有做哪一些作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9201.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9206.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
哪一些新的一個機制在這個年報上做一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9206.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9208.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9208.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9210.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
另外還有一塊就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9210.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9211.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
擔心就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9211.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9215.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
那如果我們醫療機構在做申請案件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9215.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9217.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
可能不是很清楚或者是不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9217.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9219.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
我們的審議的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9219.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9221.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
到底是怎麼回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9221.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9224.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
其實我們都有所謂的輔導機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9224.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9226.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
那當我們輔導機制就大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9226.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9228.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
有一些在做可能熟悉就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9228.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9232.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
我們是請我們的CD來當作我們的輔導團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9232.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9234.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
所以對於這個審查的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9234.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9237.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
或者是即便醫療機構想要申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9237.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
那如果我們有清楚怎麼樣在申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9240.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
有輔導機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9240.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
那包含我們每年CD會辦理四場的一個說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9248.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
讓醫療機構能夠參加了解如何來做申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9248.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
那審查過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9252.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
如果有相關的問題都可以來去詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9252.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9256.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
以力大家來申請案件的一個流程上面的一個進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9256.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9258.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
那另外一個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9258.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9259.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
有提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9259.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9263.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
希望針對是有關費用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9263.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9266.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
那的確必須要來講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9266.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9271.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
有關再生醫療的案件多數是自費方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9271.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9277.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
那但是呢因為健保署針對我們的病人的醫療費用負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9277.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9281.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
其實有跟國健署去做合作就是有關的抗癌三件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9281.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
從114年我們開始做提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
包含我們擴大的這個癌症篩檢的這個對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9287.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
把它做擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9287.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
那第二個是把有關LDT |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9291.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
就基因檢測的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9291.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9294.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
精準醫療的這個部分把它納入給付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9294.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9296.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
那第三個當然大家更清楚的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9296.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9299.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
有關我們的百億的抗癌新藥基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9299.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9306.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
來去針對我們新申請出來的這一些抗癌的一些製劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9306.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9310.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
能夠透過所謂的這個優先給付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9310.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9313.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
透過這個暫時性給付的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9313.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9317.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
能夠讓這個藥品可以提照給國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9317.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
在健保上面的使用來去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9321.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
那另外有關自費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9321.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
我們從受理案件開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9327.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
大概我們看到的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9327.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
如果是屬於用於這個傷口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
或者是軟組織的一個治療費用的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
大概平均自費大概是30萬到50萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
那如果是屬於癌症的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
大概是100萬到200萬不等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9345.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
那目前來講這一些自費的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9345.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9347.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
因為考量到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9347.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9348.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
按照我們醫療法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9348.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9350.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
其實醫療機構要收取自費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9350.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9353.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
它必須要經當地衛生局去核准 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9353.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9357.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
可是因為這樣子一個案件可能就要送22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9357.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9360.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
所以我們從114年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9360.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
我們也有推動全國醫療費用的一個資訊平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9366.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
那只要是全國首例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9366.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9373.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
沒有對應到現在的一個這個醫療費用的幾副項目的醫療器材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9373.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
或者新醫療技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
都可以透過我們這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9381.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
由衛福部來去協同地方共同審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9381.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
來加快有關自費收取費用的費額的一個審查流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9389.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
讓大家能夠儘快讓這個技術進入到市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9389.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9391.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
這邊也就是說一併做一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9392.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9394.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
大概是屬於醫療技術的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9394.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9396.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
在這邊做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9396.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9398.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
那有關藥品的部分我們就請我們食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9398.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9399.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9399.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9401.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
主席各位委員會先進大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9401.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
那食藥署這邊補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9405.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
那隨著再生醫療製劑條例的一個完成制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9405.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9407.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
其實我們相關配套的七項子法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9407.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
都已經在去年完成訂定以及公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9414.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
那也配合的再生醫療雙法在今年1月1號同步實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9414.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9420.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
那在截至今天其實食藥署已經核准了9項的再生醫療製劑的藥品許可證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9420.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9423.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
以及核准了181項的臨床試驗在台執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9423.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9425.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
那要推動整個再生醫療製劑的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9425.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9427.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
其實我們今年也推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9427.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9429.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
台灣再生醫療製劑的輔導專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9429.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9431.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
我們簡稱TRMATE |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9431.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9434.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
它其實是透過一個包含CDE TFDA |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9434.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9435.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
還有我們的申請商這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9435.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9439.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
我們一個高密度的雙向溝通的諮詢輔導的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9439.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9443.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
那希望可以提供一個可預測性的法規科學建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9443.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
那未來其實他們在做正式的申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
它是具有審查的拘束效力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9449.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
那也呼籲了剛剛葉理事長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9449.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9452.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
期待的希望能夠讓審查更透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9452.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
讓業者更了解我們的審查端的一個考量點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9458.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
所以我們正在持續進行能夠透過業者的一個加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9458.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9460.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
能夠雙方的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9460.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9462.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
互相能夠更有一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9462.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9465.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
然後更有一個互相開放對話的一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9465.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9469.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
那最後其實透過了整個法規管理的一個建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9469.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9471.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
然後以及我們的專案輔導陪跑機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9471.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9474.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
那希望可以促進我們整個再生醫療製劑產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9474.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9477.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
那同時也保障我們整個病人的一個用藥可進性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9477.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9479.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
跟一個安全性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9479.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9480.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
以上報告謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9480.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9484.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
好非常感謝我們衛福部醫事司跟食藥署的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9484.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9488.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
也希望透過更透明的修法的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9488.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9490.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
跟產業界有更多的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9490.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9495.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
那我想對整體的包括再生治濟醫療法的發展會更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9495.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9501.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
好最後一位我邀請勞動部勞動條件及就業平等司的副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9501.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9503.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
王副市長來做回應說明謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9510.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
主席還有各位專家學者還有余慧仙請大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
勞動部針對這次的公聽會針對這個薪資跟就業相關的事項來說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9523.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
第一個部分的話就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9523.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9529.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
大家都很關心我們這個最低工資調漲的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9529.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9535.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
所以自一百一百零五年以來其實已經連續十年有調漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9535.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9539.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
對於整體的這個平均薪資的增長具有正面的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9539.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9543.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
那今年我們也會依法在第三季召開最低工資審議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9544.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9552.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
那就是屆時審議委員也會將依照這個法定參彩的這些相關的指標來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9552.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9559.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
一一六年的最低工資數額來保障這個勞工的基本的就是經濟生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9559.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
那另外就是有關這個強化勞工職場競爭力跟這個議價能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9568.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
那這個部分的話我們勞動力發展署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9568.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9574.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
針對不管是青年失業者或是在職者的都有不同的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9574.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9578.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
都有持續推動各項的職業訓練的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9578.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
那今天與會的專家學者也有提到就是有關這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9587.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
要提升這個勞工的這個相關的技能包含這個AI人工智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9587.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9593.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
那這個部分我們勞動部這邊也有針對這個就是AI這個知識人的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9593.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9600.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
提升了我們有相關的這個訓練的課程包含自辦或者是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9600.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9603.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
或者是民間團體合作辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9603.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9607.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
那不管是這個補助的經費或者是訓練的輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9607.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9610.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
我們都有持續在做推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9610.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9617.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
那勞動部我們向來都認同說企業應該有盈餘就應該跟勞工來做分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9617.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9619.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
然後以利這個劉彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9619.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9624.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
所以我們其實也會持續在落實各項的勞動政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9624.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
也會在適當的場合跟時機來鼓勵企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
善盡企業社會的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
來提升勞工的薪資改善勞工的勞動條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9635.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9638.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
非常感謝我們王副市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9638.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9642.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
接下來我請問各位專家學者有沒有要做第二輪的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9642.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9643.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9643.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9644.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9644.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9645.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
非常感謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9645.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9650.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
那我們現在相關的行政機關已做回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9650.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9653.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
依據立法院職權行使法第58條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9653.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9657.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
文會應於公聽會終結10日內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9657.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9661.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
依出席者所提供之正反意見提出公聽會的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9661.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9664.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
宋教本院全體委員及出席者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9664.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9668.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
所以我們會把今天跟與會者所有寶貴的發言意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9668.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9671.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
作為未來修法的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9671.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
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並會編成策宋教本院全體委員 |
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以及今天出席、練習的所有的學者專家提供建言的貴賓參閱 |
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如果各位貴賓還有其他的書面意見或相關的資料 |
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也請儘速提供給我們將並入本次的公聽會報告 |
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再次感謝各位學者專家 |
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還有包括今天出席的政府機關代表的出席 |
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謝謝大家 |
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我們散會 |
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謝謝 |
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