| IVOD_ID |
17475 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17475 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-28T08:33:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-28T13:42:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
05:08:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db6694acf01e408a3a9036db765d14502c601341028818003dd5fee5d75c81b02c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：繼續審查：
一、 115年度中央政府總預算案關於農業部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第7項一般性補助款—農業部主管第1目農業部、第2目林業及自然保育署及所屬、第3目農村發展及水土保持署及所屬、第4目漁業署及所屬、第5目動植物防疫檢疫署及所屬、第6目農糧署及所屬、第7目農田水利署部分預算。
三、 115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於農業部主管：農業作業基金、農田水利事業作業基金、農業特別收入基金及農民退休基金。(處理)
【5月27日及5月28日二天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:33:47 - 13:42:00 |
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蕃茄 |
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我們下一個,交換圖案。OK,謝謝。 |
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嗯。 |
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這裏有個大廈。這裏有個大廈。 |
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嗯嗯 |
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這間餐廳的餐廳是一間餐廳的餐廳。 |
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這間餐廳的餐廳 |
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谢谢观看 |
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谢谢大家 |
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谢谢观看,下次见! |
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好大家早安好謝謝現在我們繼續開會我們首先進行討論事項請宣讀 |
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討論事項繼續審查1.115年度中央政府總預算案關於農業部及所屬單位預算部分2.115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第7項一般性補助款農業部主管第一目農業部第二目林業及自然保育署及所屬第三目農村發展及水土保持署及所屬第四目漁業署及所屬第五目動植物防疫檢疫署及所屬第六目農糧署及所屬第七目農檢水利署部分預算 |
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3.115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於農業部主管農業作業基金農田水利事業作業基金農業特別收入基金及農民退休基金宣讀完畢 |
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1628.019 |
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1652.524 |
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好 謝謝有關於農業部主管的預算包含這個漁業基金我們在今年4月29號第11次會議我們巡查結束所以我們今天依序要進行審查審查程序如下第一 公務預算部分與附屬單位相關的預算科目我們均暫照列是所屬基金審議確定之後我們再隨同做調整 |
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1653.684 |
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1675.42 |
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稅率的部分依款別 以向為單位稅數部分以機關別 以目為單位 我們依序審查那關於作業基金的部分我們照這個業務計畫 業務收支 結繳公庫的淨額以及轉投資計畫固定資產之建設 改良擴充及國庫 增波基金預算等逐項做審查 |
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1703.047 |
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那第三有關於特別收入基金部分我們照業務計畫基金來源用途之餘所解繳公庫等逐項做審查最後信託基金部分照基金運用計畫總收入支出基金所等逐項做審查好今天的提案很多現在請一併宣讀今天審查項目跟所有委員提案宣讀完畢之後我們再進行處理請宣讀 |
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1705.845 |
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1712.112 |
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115年度農業部及所屬稅入第二款罰款及賠償收入158項農業部252萬159項林業保育署及所屬2815萬5千元第160項農村水保署及所屬1735萬元 |
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1724.528 |
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1727.51 |
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161項農業所及所屬40萬元162項零事所35萬元163項水事所24萬元164項蓄勢所及所屬128,000元165項農藥所無劣素166項生物多樣性研究所4,000元167項 |
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1743.459 |
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1750.122 |
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茶改廠15000元168項種苗改良繁殖場3萬元169項桃園農改所無劣數170項苗栗農改所無劣數171項台中區農改所無劣數172項台南區農改所無劣數173項高雄區農改所 |
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1760.905 |
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1766.707 |
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無劣數170項花蓮區農改廠1萬元175項台東區農改廠無劣數176項漁業署及所署2694萬7千元177項房檢署及所署6166萬6千元178項農經署100萬元179項農糧署及所署16萬元180項農水署10萬元181項農科園區管理中心無劣數第三款 |
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1788.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1791.655 |
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規費收入128項農業部4536萬1000元129項林業保育署及所署2000萬元130項農村水保署及所署540萬元131項農事所及所署597萬5000元132項林事所8萬元133項水事所140萬元134項 |
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1810.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1812.542 |
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獸醫所3056萬4000元135項農藥所4909萬6000元136項生物多樣性研究所90萬元137項茶改廠25000元138項農 |
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1826.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1830.968 |
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總苗改良繁殖場150萬元139項桃園區農改場20萬元140項苗栗區農改場325,000元141項台中區農改場20萬元142項台南區農改場20萬元143項高雄區農改場20萬元144項花蓮區農改場8萬元145項台東區農改場8萬元 |
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1849.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1854.874 |
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146項漁業署及所署3246萬2千元147項房檢所及所署33599萬8千元148項農經所4萬1千元149項農糧署及所署644萬6千元150項農水署500萬元第4款財產收入170項農業部2479萬元 |
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1872.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1877.55 |
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171項農業保育署及所屬2億4,686萬4千元172項農村水保署及所屬38萬元173項農事所及所屬104萬6千元174項零事所275萬5千元175項水事所322萬6千元176項敘事所及所屬167萬4千元177項 |
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1899.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1902.201 |
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受益所354,000元178項農藥所20萬元179項生物多樣性研究所42,000元180項茶改廠113,000元181項種苗改良繁殖場10萬元182項桃園驅農改廠28萬元183項苗栗驅農改廠8萬元184項台中驅農改廠161,000元185項台南驅農改廠552,000元186項高雄驅農改廠2萬元 |
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1930.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1933.563 |
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花蓮群農該場2萬元189漁業署級所屬9,415萬3千元190項房檢署級所屬164萬3千元191項農經署8萬3千元192項農糧署級所屬351萬5千元193項農水署無劣數194項 |
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1951.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1960.548 |
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農科園區管理中心無劣數第五款營業營餘及事業收入第十項農業部市役7609萬3千元第七款其他收入167項農業部5871萬1千元168項林業保育署及所屬9832萬1千元 |
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1970.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1974.861 |
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169項農村水保署及所署760萬元170項農事所及所署990萬5千元171項零事所588萬3千元172項水事所1318萬3千元 |
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1986.313 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1990.136 |
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173項敘事所及所屬494萬4千元174項獸醫所1451萬1千元175項農藥所167萬5千元176項生物多樣性研究所107萬6千元177項查改所505萬5千元 |
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2004.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2009.928 |
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178項總苗改良繁殖場62萬5千元179項桃園區農改廠189萬4千元180項苗栗區農改廠99萬2千元181項台中區農改廠429萬5千元182項台南區農改廠314萬1千元183項高雄區農改廠261萬3千元184項花蓮區農改廠56萬5千元185項台東區農改廠104萬3千元 |
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2032.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2036.499 |
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186項農業署及所署2245萬3000元187項房檢署及所署129000元188項農經署無劣數189項農糧署及所署1018萬元190項農水署30萬元191項農科園區管理中心無劣數 |
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2054.822 |
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2061.825 |
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稅出部分16款第一項農業部1146億4915萬2000元第一幕農業科技研究發展17億5000零26萬5000元第二幕一般行政6億4917萬5000元第三幕農業管理27億7696萬1000元第四幕農業發展379億9473萬元第五幕一般建築及設備91萬元第六幕一般 |
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2084.015 |
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2107.71 |
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第一預備金六千兩百六十七萬八千元第七目社會保險業務兩百四十六億一千九百四十八萬七千元第八目農民福利業務四百六十七億四千九百九十四萬六千元第二項林業保育署及所屬一百零五萬三千三百九十四萬三千元第一目林業事業研究八千八百九十二萬四千元 |
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2107.91 |
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2130.356 |
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第二目一般行政二十九億六千八百四十一萬一千元第三目林業管理一億兩千七百五十七萬九千元第四目林業發展七十三億四千八百零二萬九千元第五目一般建築及設備無劣數第六目第一域備金一百萬元第三項農村水保署及所屬一百零四億八百四十四萬五千元 |
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2130.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2139.418 |
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第一幕隨土保持試驗研究584萬9千元第二幕一般行政7億4689萬6千元第三幕隨土保持發展96億5550萬元第四幕第一倍均20萬元第四項農事所及所屬13億3626萬5千元第一幕農業試驗研究6億3870萬3千元第二幕一般行政6億1722萬4千元第三幕農業數位發展 |
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2165.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2184.569 |
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第四幕一般建築及設備無劣數第五幕第一倍金三十萬元第五項零四所八億九千八百四十一萬三千元第一幕林業科技實驗研究一億六千零五十四萬八千元第二幕一般行政三億七千四百零三萬兩千元第三幕林業管理一億四千八百零九萬一千元 |
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2185.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2201.393 |
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第四幕林業發展2億1554萬2千元第五幕地域備金20萬元第六項水事所9億030萬元第一幕水產試驗研究3億2999萬元第二幕一般行政4億827萬6千元第三幕農業事業發展1億5913萬9千元第四幕一般建築及設備269萬5千元 |
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2212.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2242.035 |
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第五目第一備金二十萬元第七項蓄勢所及所屬八億六千七百一十九萬七千元第一目蓄勢蓄募試驗研究三億兩千零三十八萬一千元第二目一般行政四億三千七百二十四萬六千元第三目農業事業發展一億八百二十二萬元第四目一般建築及設備一百一十五萬元第五目第一備金二十萬元第八項收益所九億九百零六萬五千元 |
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2242.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2261.963 |
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第一幕動物衛生試驗研究一億七千五百六十一萬元第二幕一般行政兩億五百九十六萬六千元第三幕農業事業發展五億兩千五百十八萬九千元第四幕一般建築及設備二百二十萬元第五幕第一倍金十萬元 |
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2262.403 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2288.238 |
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第九項農藥所7億4,592萬5千元第一目農業藥物及植物保護試驗研究1億3,218萬7千元第二目一般行政1億5,339萬1千元第三目農藥試驗及登記管理4億6,024萬7千元第四目一般建築及設備無劣數第五目地域背景10萬元第十項生物多樣性研究2億8,851萬5千元 |
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2290.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2300.649 |
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第一幕生物多樣性研究六千七百六十二萬兩千元第二幕一般行政一億八千三百八十八萬三千元第三幕農業失業發展三千六百萬 |
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2302.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2330.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
第四目一般建築及設備九十三萬元第五目地域備金八萬元十一項查改廠兩億五千一百三十八萬一千元第一目查其飲料作物研究改良四千七千四百二十萬六千元第二目一般行政一億六千六百一十萬七千元第三目農業事業發展一千零九十六萬八千元第四目一般建築及設備無劣數第五目地域備金十萬元第十二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2331.207 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2357.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
總苗改良繁殖場兩億四千九百七十九萬八千元第一幕總苗研究與改良一億兩百八十五萬七千元第二幕一般行政一億四千二百二十三萬五千元第三幕農業事業發展四百六十萬六千元第四幕地域背景十萬元第十三項桃園區農改廠三億三千五百五十萬九千元第一幕農作物改良一億四千 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2358.382 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2358.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
第十四項苗栗區農改廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2388.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2413.921 |
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第五目第一倍金十萬元第十五項台中區農改廠三億七百三十五萬三千元第一目農作農作物改良一億五千一百四十六萬五千元第二目一般行政一億四千九百三十三萬八千元第三目農業事業發展六百四十五萬元第四目第一倍金十萬元第十六項台南區農改廠三億兩千零二十一萬五千元第一目 |
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2414.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2442.098 |
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農作物改良一億四千三百二十七萬一千元第二幕一般行政一億六千九百五十七萬八千元第三幕農業事業發展七百二十六萬六千元第四幕一般建築及設備無劣數第五幕地域備金十萬元第十七項高雄區農改廠兩億七千七百七十五萬兩千元第一幕農作物改良一億兩千五百七十七萬五千元第二幕一般行政一億三千三百二十四萬三千元 |
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2442.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2462.053 |
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第三幕農業事業發展1706萬4千元第四幕一般建築及設備157萬元第五幕一般地域備金10萬元第十八項花蓮區農改廠量1億8283萬6千元第一幕農作物改良1億1464萬7千元第二幕一般行政1億1583萬7千元第三幕農業事業發展5225萬2千元第四幕一般建築及設備無劣數 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2470.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2491.773 |
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第五幕第一倍金十萬元第十九項台東區農改廠一億八千八百六十五萬元第一幕農作物改良七千八百零二萬三千元第二幕一般行政九千八百二十二萬五千元第三幕農業事業發展一千零七十三萬兩千元第四幕一般建築及設備一百五十七萬元第五幕第一倍金十萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2492.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2509.754 |
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二十項漁業暑期所屬八十三億七千九百七十四萬一千元第一幕漁業科技研究發展一億四千七百二十七萬一千元第二幕一般行政四億八千四百九十四萬四千元第三幕漁業管理五十九億七千八百二十五萬六千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2510.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2515.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
第4幕 漁業發展17億6656萬元第5幕 一般建築及設備157萬元第6幕 地域備金114萬元第21項 房檢署及所屬315,097萬7千元第1幕 動植物防疫技術研發2億3285萬8千元第2幕 一般行政9億853萬8千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2538.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2547.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
植物房檢疫管理20億693萬1千元第4幕一般建築及設備115萬元第5幕地域備金150萬元第22項農金屬6億6719萬5千元第1幕農業金融研發280萬3千元第2幕一般行政1億3056萬2千元第3幕農業金融業務5億3363萬元第4幕地域備金20萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2564.995 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2573.845 |
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第二三項農糧暑期所屬45億9716萬6千元第一幕農糧科技研發1億2092萬1千元第二幕一般行政8億5236萬2千元第三幕農糧管理36億2208萬3千元第四幕一般建築及設備80萬元第五幕 |
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五目第一預備金一百萬元第二四項農水署一百一十億三千七百三十三萬七千元第一目農田水利科技四千四百八十四萬三千元第二目一般行政一億九千兩百零九萬五千元第三目農田水利管理三億五千兩百六十一萬九千元 |
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第四目 農田水利發展41億6938萬元第五目 非營業特種基金62億7820萬元第六目 地域備金20萬元第25項 農科園區管理中心4億1074萬元第一目 農科園區科技933萬3000元第二目 一般行政9520萬7000元第三目 農科園區發展3億610萬元 |
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第四目一般建築及設備無劣數第五目地域備金10萬元第27款直轄市及縣市政府2501億1279萬元第七項一般性補助款農業部26億3721萬5千元第一目一般性補助 |
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一般性農業補助農業部1億7296萬2千元第二幕林業及自然保育署及所屬8879萬9千元第三幕農村發展及水土保持署及所屬3億5190萬元第四幕漁業署及所屬9億272萬1千元第五幕動植物防疫檢疫署及所屬2億5520萬元 |
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第六目農糧署及所署四億一百九十萬三千元第七目農田水綠署四億六千三百七三萬元提案部分農業部第一項農業部 |
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第一案 農業部凍結30億元 中嘉賓委員提案第二案 媒體政策及業務宣導 減列1000萬元 洪玉祥等提案第三案 減列10% 楊瓊穎等提案第四案 農業科技研究發展 向下作物品種改良及收集 作物栽培及採購 |
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處理技術研究農業技術服務及農業管理向下花卉園區管理凍結5%楊瓊英委員提案第5案農業科技研究發展凍結10%蔡玉瑜等人提案第6案凍結1%鍾嘉斌等人提案第7案凍結1%鍾嘉斌委員提案第8案凍結30萬元陳廷飛等人提案 |
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案第9案畜牧業及動物保護科技研發凍結10%菜魚等人提案第10案凍結5%楊瓊玉等人提案第11案凍結 |
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百分之三宗嘉斌等人提案第十二案國際農業合作簡列百分之十楊瓊瑩等人提案第十三案凍結百分之五陳昌明等人提案第十四案國際農業合作業務費凍結五百萬余玉琳等人提案第十五案農業電子化業務費委辦費一百一十五年度農業空氣資訊 |
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雲端運算資源共購計畫 減列500萬 洪玉祥等人提案第16 農業資通安全推動服務計畫 減列500萬 洪玉祥等人提案第17 農業數位整合服務系統建置計畫 減列300萬 洪玉祥等人提案第18 |
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跨領域整合科技研發凍結百分之二十賴立榮等人提案第十九案推動農業智慧化凍結一百萬元賴立榮等人提案第二十案業務費委辦費智慧農業計劃成效追蹤計策略延期減列五百萬元洪玉祥等人提案第二十一 |
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一案 農業決策生產模組研發與建構計畫 減列300萬元 洪玉祥等人提案第二十二案 農產業AI經營人才培訓與實務應用計畫 減列150萬 洪玉祥等人提案第二十三案 |
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AI人才養成及輔助業務推動之研究與發展檢列200萬紅玉香等人提案第二次案農業場域設備聯網資料運用其價值檢列80萬紅玉香等人提案 |
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第25案一般行政基本行政工作維持凍結1%謝易鳳等人提案第26案業務費一般事務費減劣10%楊瓊英等人提案第27案農業法規管理及溯源審議向下業務費凍結100萬呂玉玲等人提案第28案農業管理綜合規劃向下業務費凍結400萬元呂玉玲等人提案第29案 |
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科技管理業務費向下業務費溯源農產品驗證輔導及安全管理與行銷計畫減列兩千萬元洪玉祥等人提案第三十案畜牧管理凍結百分之二十戴若龍等人提案第三十一案凍結百分之五楊瓊英等人提案第三十二案凍結一千萬元鍾嘉斌等人提案第三十三案 |
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凍結500萬元陳亭飛等人提案第34項業務費凍結500萬元李玉玲等人提案第35案凍結5%邱志偉等人提案第36案強補助費差額補助減列1億元洪玉祥等人提案第37案凍結1%邱毅英等人提案第38案輔導推廣業務費鄉下業務費凍結500萬元李玉玲等人提案 |
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第39案 國際農業諮商與合作檢列10% 楊瓊英等人提案第40案 凍結20% 時代樂融等人提案第41案 凍結10% 蔡玉玉等人提案第42案 凍結5% 楊瓊英等人提案第43案 業務費凍結300萬 呂玉玲等人提案第44案 凍結5% 邱志偉等人提案第45案 凍結5% 陳超明等人提案 |
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第46案 獎補助費減列2500萬 洪玉祥等人提案第47案 動物保護管理減列1000萬元 陳廷飛等人提案第48案 凍結10%菜魚等人提案第49案 凍結5% 邱志偉等人提案第50案 凍結1000萬元 鍾家斌等人提案第51案 凍結1% 邱志偉等人提案第52案 凍結1% 謝一鳳等人提案第53案 凍結150萬元 賴榮等人提案第54案 凍結100萬元 邱志偉等人提案 |
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2996.501 |
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第55案建制寵物食品管理及產業輔導計劃凍結1%邱毅寅等人提案第56案業務費凍結1000萬元呂毅寧等人提案第57案凍結5%陳昭明等人提案第58案 |
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会员区管理冻结10%杨琼英等人提案第59案设备及投资公共建设及设施费减列3000万元洪玉祥等人提案第60案农业发展减列300万元陈金飞等人提案第60 |
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案凍結百分之十蔡宇等提案第六十二案凍結百分之一鍾嘉斌等提案第六十三案凍結百分之一鍾嘉斌等人提案第六十四案凍結五百萬邱志偉等人提案第六十五案凍結兩百萬蔡賴瑞榮等人提案第六十六案凍結五十萬元陳廷飛等人提案第六十七案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
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凍結三十萬五千元陳鼎飛等人提案第六十八案補助農業特別收入基金凍結四分之一鄭征前等提案第六十九案凍結一千萬元鍾嘉斌等提案第七十案凍結一千萬元鍾嘉斌等提案第七十一案蔣補助飛凍結百分之五邱志偉等提案第七十二案無人載具產業發展統籌型計劃減列三千萬元洪玉祥等人提案第七十三案凍結 |
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百分之五邱志伟等人提案七十四案冻结百分之五陈超明等人提案第七十五冻结百分之五杨秋莹等人提案第七十六案冻结百分之二邱毅英等人提案第七十七案冻结百分之一谢一凤等人提案第七十八案业务费冻结两百万元李玉玲等人提案第七十九案全国航遥测影像产制及AI判试与应用计划冻结百分之一谢一凤等人提案第八十案业务费冻结 |
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百分之五邱志偉等人提案 第八十一案委辦費減列五百萬元洪玉祥等人提案 第八十二案打造永續共好地方創生計劃凍結四分之一鄭征前等提案 第八十二案建構農產品冷鏈物流及品質確保示範示範體系計劃減列七千兩百五十一萬鄭天才等人提案 第八十四案凍結百分之二邱毅英等人提案 |
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第85案 蔣補助凍結5% 邱志偉等人提案第86案 社會保險業務凍結10% 蔡玉怡等人提案第87案 農民保險業務凍結5% 楊秋英等人提案第88案 農民福利業務凍結3% 鍾嘉斌等人提案第89案 農民退休儲蓄 |
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除經業務凍結一千萬元宗嘉賓等提案第九十案業務費凍結兩百萬餘零等提案第九十一案至一百五十八案主決議請參閱 |
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第二項林業及自然保育署及所屬第159案強勢外來入侵種移除防治及復育計劃凍結500萬元邱志偉等人提案第160案森林永續經營及產業振興計劃凍結500萬邱志偉等人提案第161案一般行政基本行政工作維持離山工作站植物宿舍間 |
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3197.23 |
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救災備情市建置計劃凍結2000萬元洪玉祥等人提案第162案業務費特別費分署長特別費南投分署凍結10%楊瓊玉等人提案第163案林業管理凍結10%蔡玉等人提案第164案凍結150萬元賴樂隆等人提案第165案 |
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化解野生動物危害農業及貧為物種與人衝突凍結10%蔡宇等人提案第166案業務費凍結5%邱志偉等人提案第167案林業發展凍結150萬元 |
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3233.325 |
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陳廷輝等人提案第168案森林生態系經營森林永續經營及產業振興計畫凍結1%邱毅英等人提案169案森林保護與林地管理減裂10%楊瓊瑩等人提案170案後職森林資源凍結30%賴瑞榮等提案171案凍結3000萬元洪玉祥等提案170案凍結1000萬元邱志維等人提案173項 |
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173案森林永續經營及產業振興計畫凍結1%謝易鳳等人提案174案業務費凍結5%邱志偉等人提案175案凍結5%陳昌明等人提案176案凍結800萬元李玉玲等人提案177案公私有零經營及零產發展業務凍結5000萬元洪玉祥等人提案178案凍結5%邱志偉等人提案179案 |
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國有林整體治山防災及林道維護凍結五千萬元洪玉祥等提案一百八十案業務費凍結一千五百萬元李玲等提案一百八十一案設備及投資公共建設及設備費南投分屬凍結百分之十楊瓊英等提案一百八十二案國有林大規模崩塌防治 |
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防災治理凍結兩千萬元洪義祥等人提案183案森林遊戲場域發展與推動凍結10%蔡宇宜等人提案183案凍結1億元洪義祥等人提案185案業務費凍結10%邱志偉等人提案第186案棲地及野生物 |
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3332.579 |
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保育管理凍結10%賴瑞榮等人提案187案凍結3000萬元洪玉祥等人提案188案凍結5%陳昌明等人提案189案凍結5%梁秋英等人提案193案凍結150萬元賴瑞榮等人提案191案 |
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推动国土生态滤网冻结10%赖瑞龙等人提案192案冻结5000万元洪玉祥等人提案第193案国家航摇测飞机更新计划冻结3000万元洪玉祥等人提案194案到201案主决议请参议第三项农村发展及水土保持属及所属202案一般行政基本行政工作维持业务费特别费分数涨特别费台中分数冻结10%杨琼英等人提案 |
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203案水土保持發展檢列500萬元陳亭飛等人提案204案凍結1000萬元邱志偉等人提案205案凍結100萬元陳亭飛等人提案206案整體性治山防災凍結5%楊瓊玉等人提案 |
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207案凍結1000萬元邱志維等人提案 208案業務費凍結5%邱志維等人提案 209案業務費委辦費凍結1%洪玉祥等人提案 210案設備及投資凍結5%邱志維等人提案 211案公共建設及設施費台中分署凍結10%楊秋英等人提案 210案212案大規模崩塌及不安定土砂房減災 |
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東捷 |
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第六項水產試驗所224案阻絕疫情參院 |
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第9項農業藥物試驗所第225案農藥試驗及登記管理凍結500萬元邱志偉等人提案226案主決議請參閱第11項查改廠 |
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第227案 茶及飲料作物改良廠 凍結10% 菜魚等人提案第20項 漁業署及所屬 第228案 漁業管理檢列10% 楊瓊英等人提案229案 凍結200萬元 賴瑞榮等人提案 |
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3492.057 |
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案 企劃管理 凍結25%賴瑞榮等人提案 第231案 凍結15%賴瑞榮等人提案 第232案 業務費 凍結500萬元 呂玉瑩等人提案233案 委辦費 凍結500萬元 洪玉祥等人提案 234案 沿境海漁業管理 凍結15%賴瑞榮等人提案 |
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3509.272 |
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3534.224 |
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235萬業務費 凍結2000萬元旅餘零等人提案236案委辦費委託辦理建置沿海沿境海漁業智能管理作業環境及漁獲資料查報會及分析凍結1000萬元洪玉祥等人提案237案委託辦理漁船罰收購處理 凍結500萬元洪玉祥等人提案238案 |
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3536.085 |
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3561.796 |
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遠洋漁業管理遠洋漁業永續發展落實責任漁業消除非法魚撈計畫凍結10%張家俊委員提案239案業務費向下的委辦費委託辦理提升我國遠洋漁業觀察員涵蓋率計畫凍結1000萬元洪玉祥等人提案第240案委託辦理遠洋大型偽鹽神釣漁船及 |
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3563.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
3590.404 |
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游钓渔船专案收购计划冻结五千万元洪玉祥等人提案第二百四十一案渔业渔人全行动计划冻结百分之十五赖瑞荣等人提案二百四十二案冻结五百万元邱志伟等人提案二百四十三案业务费冻结一千八百万元李玲等人提案二百四十四案冻结八百万元洪玉祥等人提案二百四十五案养殖渔业管理业务费向下委办费冻结一千万元洪玉祥等人提案 |
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3591.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
3599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
第246案漁業發展凍結百分之十蔡玉玉等人提案247案凍結兩百萬元耐用等人提案248案漁業永續經營基礎建設計畫凍結百分之五蔡玉玉等人提案249案業務費向下違辦費凍結三億元洪玉祥等人提案250案凍結一千萬元 |
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3612.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
3619.781 |
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邱志維等人提案 第251案養殖漁業振興計劃業務費凍結100萬元呂玲等人提案 225案建構農產品冷鏈物流及品質確保示範體系凍結10%楊瓊英等人提案 253案凍結500萬元邱志維等人提案 254案凍結1%邱益穎等人提案 255案凍結1%謝一鳳等人提案 |
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3638.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
3648.897 |
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256案無人載具產業發展統籌型計畫凍結2000萬元洪玉祥等人提案257案凍結15%賴瑞榮等人提案258案到264案主決議請參議員第21項凍植物防疫檢疫暑期所屬265案媒體政策及業務宣導凍結100萬元賴瑞榮等人提案第26案 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
3664.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
3678.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
第266案動植物防檢疫技術研發凍結100萬元耐熱用等人提案267案防疫檢疫科技研發業務費向下委辦費減列800萬元洪玉祥等人提案268案講普助費凍結5000萬元洪玉祥等人提案269案動植物防疫檢疫 |
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3687.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
3712.504 |
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检列50万元陈廷飞等人提案270案冻结150万元赖瑞龙等人提案271案动物检疫业务冻结10%杨琼英等人提案272案植物防疫业务检列10%杨琼英等人提案273案业务费冻结2000万元洪玉祥等人提案274案冻结1000万元于玉玲等人提案275案 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
3715.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
3722.108 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
業務費 向下資訊服務費 減列200萬元 洪玉祥等人提案276案 強補助費 凍結200萬元 邱志偉等人提案277案 植物檢疫業務 業務費 向下業務費 凍結200萬元 呂玲等人提案278案 企劃業務 業務費 凍結200萬元 呂玲等人提案 279案 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
3735.316 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
3748.34 |
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屠宰衛生檢查業務 業務費下尾辦費減列2000萬元 洪玉祥等人提案 280案動植物防檢疫業務 凍結2000萬元 林玉玲等人提案281案 防範非洲豬瘟邊境管制及國內防疫整備計劃凍結10% 蔡瑜等人提案 282案 凍結300萬元 邱志偉等人提案 283案 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
3761.684 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
3772.827 |
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防範非洲豬瘟邊境管制及國內防疫整備計劃動植物防疫檢疫署凍結1%謝易鳳等人提案284案業務費凍結2000萬元李玉玲等人提案285案凍結3%陳昌明等人提案286案業務費向下委辦費 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
3781.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
3796.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
動植物檢疫偵測犬隊資訊鏈及執行勤務管理計畫檢列800萬元 洪義祥等人提案287案 業務費向下一般事務費凍結3000萬元 洪義祥等人提案288案國家防疫議題聯合行動計畫獎補助費凍結2000萬元 洪義祥等人提案289案至294案 主決議請參閱第22項 農金屬295案 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
3812.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
3820.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
農業金融研發提升農業收益與穩定所得之政策研究凍結50萬元李玲人提案296案業務費向下違反費凍結5%方家俊人提案297項農業金融業務凍結1%鄭真前人提案298項298案農業保險及資訊凍結100萬元洪玉祥人提案299案 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
3833.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
3841.715 |
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凍結100萬元賴日榮等人提案300案凍結10%邱志偉等人提案301案業務費凍結100萬元李玉玲等人提案302案凍結5%陳超明等人提案303案農業金融機構管理凍結10萬元洪玉祥等人提案304案業務費凍結100萬元李玉玲等人提案305案主決議請參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
3859.639 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
3868.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
第二三項農糧數據所屬306案農糧科技研發農糧作物產銷技術研發凍結150萬元賴瑞榮等人提案307案農糧管理凍結150萬元陳廷飛等人提案308案氫化管理簡列10%楊瓊英等人提案309案凍結10%蔡玉等人提案310案凍結150萬元賴瑞榮等人提案311案業務費 |
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3885.371 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
3890.658 |
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凍結一千萬元李玉玲等人提案312案違辦費凍結15%邱志偉等人提案313案果樹及花卉產業管理業務費國外旅費凍結十分之一洪玉祥等人提案310案倒座 |
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3900.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
3915.866 |
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產業管理業務費凍結100萬元呂玉玲等人提案315案獎補助費辦理115年第一二期做水稻航空照片判試及調查統計稻作面積減劣200萬元洪玉祥的人提案316案 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
3918.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
3925.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
雜糧特作管理業務費凍結200萬 鋁淋等人提案 317案 農業資源管理檢列10% 羊群營等人提案 318案 建構高效智慧化農糧產品安全管理體系計畫凍結1% 謝一鳳等人提案 319案 業務費凍結3%陳昌明等人提案 320案 違辦費凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
3939.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
3962.502 |
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百分之二十 邱志偉等人提案三百二十一案 農作物重金屬及農藥殘留檢驗檢列五百萬元 洪玉祥等人提案三百二十二案 有機農業政策或相關措施規劃凍結十分之一 洪玉祥等人提案三百二十四案 獎補助費凍結五百萬元 邱志偉等人提案三百二十四案 獎補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
3965.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
3968.268 |
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獎補助費差額補助凍結十分之一紅玉祥等人提供325萬溯源農產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
3972.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
3982.795 |
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驗證輔導及安全管理與行銷計劃檢列10%獎 楊瓊英等人提案 326案凍結1% 邱毅英等人提案 327案凍結500萬元 邱志維等人提案 328案凍結500萬元 呂玉玲等人提案 329案凍結3% 陳昌明等人提案 330案業務費向下資訊服務費 檢列300萬元 洪玉祥等人提案 331案薑補助費 檢列5000萬元 洪玉祥等人提案 332案建構農產品 |
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4001.763 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4008.329 |
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冷鏈物流及品質確保示範體系計畫 簡列3000萬元 洪玉祥等人提案333案 打造永續共好地方創生計畫 簡列500萬元 洪玉祥等人提案334案到336案 主決議請參議員農田水利署337項 |
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4022.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
4031.409 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
農田水利發展減劣1000萬元陳亭飛等人提案338案凍結5%楊瓊瑩等人提案339案凍結1000萬元鍾嘉斌等人提案340案農田水利跨域整合永續發展計劃凍結1%謝一鳳等人提案341案凍結300萬元邱志偉等人提案340案業務費凍結4000萬元呂玉玲等人提案343案業務費消下違辦費凍結500萬元邱志偉等人提案344案 |
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4052.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
4058.352 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
國庫撥充農田水利事業作業基金凍結500萬元邱志偉等人提案344案到348案主決議請參議院 |
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4061.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4070.527 |
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農業部主管附屬單位預算非營業部分農業作業基金業務計劃請參閱業務總收入5億5529萬6千元業務總支出6億6710萬1千元本期短處1億1180萬5千元節繳公庫無劣數轉投資計劃無劣數固定資產建設改良擴充2億164萬7千元國庫增撥金額無劣數補辦預算無劣數 |
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4089.054 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
4092.217 |
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農田水利事業作業基金業務計畫請參閱業務總收支123億1734萬7千元業務總支出132億8866萬4千元本期短促9億7131萬7千元節繳公庫無劣數轉投資計畫無劣數固定資產建設改良擴充92億9763萬4千元國庫增潑額 |
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4117.356 |
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金額63億2820萬元補辦預算轉投資資金轉投資資收入680萬元農業特別收入基金業務計劃請參閱基金來源520億999萬2000元 |
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4131.756 |
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4136.638 |
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基金用途678億3,553萬1千元本期短處158億2,553萬9千元街角公庫無劣數補辦運輸3,677萬5千元農民退休基金基金運用計畫請參閱總收入10億1,339萬元總支出277萬3千元本期剩餘10億1,061萬7千元提案部分總描農業作業基金 |
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4162.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
4187.893 |
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总苗改良繁殖作业基金业务成本与费用销货成本减列50万元陈廷飞等人提案第二案冻结500万元邱志伟等人提案第三案续产改良作业基金业务成本与费用其他业务成本杂项业务成本冻结10%杨全英等人提案第四案农业科技园区作业基金业务成本与费用出租资产成本 |
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4188.493 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4189.376 |
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第六案到第十八案主決議請參議院 |
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4198.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
4224.656 |
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農田水利事業作業基金提案部分固定資產建設改良擴充第十九案一般建築及設備減列一千五百萬元陳廷飛等人提案第二十案減列三百萬元陳廷飛等人提案第二十一案凍結百分之五楊瓊英等人提案第二十二案凍結五百萬元邱志偉等人提案第二十三案立道三十一案主決議請參議員農業特別收入基金提案部分 |
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4226.478 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
4229.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
農業發展基金第32案提升農業經營及發展計劃農 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
4232.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
4261.119 |
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良政业务计划冻结500万元陈廷飞等人提案第33案冻结500万元邱志伟等人提案第34案稳定肥料及相关资财供需计划减列1000万元陈廷飞等人提案第35案冻结10%杨秋英等人提案第36案冻结500万元邱志伟等人提案第37案冻结150万元赖瑞龙等人提案第38案产销调节计划减列300万元陈廷飞等人提案 |
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4262.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
4287.93 |
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林業發展及造林計劃第39案森林遊樂及林業鐵路經營管理計劃凍結500萬元陳亭飛等人提案第40案凍結500萬元邱志偉等人提案第41案凍結500萬元賴樂勇等人提案第42案服務費用凍結2000萬元呂玉玲等人提案農產品受進口災害救助基金第43案 |
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4289.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
4311.774 |
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调整产业或防范措施计划养出产业韧性高效价值及竞争力优化计划简列1000万元陈廷飞等人提案第4次案农产品全球通路拓展计划冻结1%邱毅英等人提案第45案冻结300万元陈廷飞等人提案农村再生基金 |
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4313.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
4326.908 |
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第46案 農村再生建設及發展計劃智能防災設施型農業計劃減列500萬元陳亭飛等人提案第47案 凍結1%邱毅寧等人提案第48案 服務費用凍結100萬元邱呂毅寧等人提案49案到76案主決議請參閱農民退休基金提案部分77案至82案主決議請參閱宣讀完畢 |
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4345.285 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
4366.373 |
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終於宣布完畢醫事人員辛苦了現在在場人數只有洪文在另外這時間我們快介紹今天列席的農業部所有主管人員各司處還有各署的主管跟署長首先介紹農業部陳俊基部長 |
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4370.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
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謝謝部長 會計處 陳立榮處長 謝謝中規師 蔡巧蓮市長 謝謝資源永續利用師 黃興達市長 謝謝公民輔導師 陳怡任市長 謝謝虛募師 李怡謙市長 謝謝動保師 江文權市長 謝謝 |
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農科師 李鴻熙 市長謝謝國際事務師 鍾明堅 記政謝謝資訊師 郭坤峰 市長謝謝秘書處 黃文毅 處長謝謝法治處 吳夫榮 處長謝謝人事處 吳立民 處長謝謝政風處 陳忠強 處長謝謝土地署 王淑娟 處長 |
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農糧署姚士源署長謝謝漁業署王茂成署長謝謝動植物防疫檢疫署杜力華署長謝謝林業及自然保育署廖玉光副署長謝謝農中發展及水土保護署陳俊源署長謝謝農地水域署蔡勝虎署長好謝謝 |
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農業技能署李聰勇署長謝謝農業科技園區管理中心莊老大主任後面還有一整頁這個既然唸了就還是要唸一下兩位先稍待一下我後面會加速花卉創新園區研發中心 |
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戴庭恩主任謝謝農事所王世賢所長謝謝林事所曾營學署長謝謝水產所水事所張錦怡署長謝謝蓄勢所黃振芳署長謝謝收銀救所鄧明忠署長謝謝 |
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農業藥物實驗所徐志鴻所長謝謝生物多樣性研究所楊家棟所長謝謝台南區農改廠王玉華廠長美麗區農改廠施嘉鴻廠長台中區農改廠楊弘英所長台南區農改所農改廠陳玉初廠長 |
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花園區農改廠羅振中廠長謝謝花園區農改廠楊大吉廠長台東區農改廠陳信岩廠長謝謝茶几飲料座改良廠蘇中正廠長謝謝種苗改良班子廠游民中副廠長 |
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還有其他部會 內政部土地創發署張科長 勞動部農業基金域內容局張專委 勞動部管理局吳文組長 主席總署有公務預算處的邱碧竹專委另外基金預算處的楊敏傑科長好 總算都念完了我才理解一時連夜的辛苦 你要念一個小時好 來 |
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我們現在先進行農業部公務預算的協商處理好在場有市委委員、林玉玲委員、鍾嘉斌委員還有洪義祥委員好先處理第一案農業部第一項第一案的部分這個是通案的部分我們留到最後處理 |
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中加兵委員改組決議 第一案改組決議第二 二 三案 媒體徵討跟宣導費我們照例留到最後來處理第四案的部分也是同案 我們留到最後處理我們先處理農業科技研究發展第一幕的部分原定數17億5千零26萬5千元我們從第五案開始處理到24案 |
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大家看第5案到24案都是第一幕的部分包括這個第5案的蔡玉瑜第6案的鍾嘉斌第7案的鍾嘉斌還有第9案的蔡玉瑜18案的賴瑞榮19案的賴瑞榮我都沒有提案是不是都改成組決議好 |
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提案委員有沒有還要再詢問思想 如果沒有的話 我就請農業部李議員你是主席你剛剛講的是第一幕的部分 農業科技研究發展第一幕 我的實施案對好 |
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這個十四案我們這個項目裡面是對我們農業科技的研究發展但是我們看到整個農業部對於開拓海外的市場造成了整體的農業貿易的逆差從一百 |
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104.55億美元已經到142.6億美元本質上說開拓海外市場是很不容易的但是我們農業部也應該要正視這個問題國內的農業出口的這些結構性的問題我希望農業部能夠對於出口能夠的成長能夠有一個精進的方案所以這個部分我先凍結500萬 |
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好待會請農業部來做回答等一下那個洪義祥委員好因為這一個大項目底下叫農業第一幕叫農業科技的研究發展總編列是17億多那裡頭每一個計畫預算書我大概都看完所以我寫的案子比較多那 |
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可能請農業部去看一下我在行政院這個交通委員會的總質詢那15分鐘裡面主要我談的是這個AI整個台灣的軟體的發展的戰略那裡頭的話我請你們好好去看一下就整個國家的軟體AI發展戰略裡頭在垂直領域農業部的這個垂直領域的AI應該怎麼來用 |
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那這一頭就牽扯到整個農業科技的基礎包含你們所講的一堆包含你的電子化智慧化一堆所以我這邊大概就是從15 16 17 20 21 22 23 24一併稍微說明每一個項目我的這個簡或者改動等一下我們再來談主要在第15案這邊來講的話 |
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你們在這裡頭所寫的刷說要支援AI的模型的發布API的服務跟生成式的AI但是你在那個年度交付成果或是API的使用率服務水準這些東西基本上都沒有特別去說明那整個農業空間資訊跟AI的模型的一個資料這些的機敏性以及模型的使用是哪一個也沒有特別去講 |
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再來像第16案來講你們在這一個資通安全的服務規劃來講因為這涉及到跟政府這一個資安的一個管理所以你們的這個預算書寫的都很形容詞維護、精進、防護你把它放到任何一個部會都是這樣子你放到立法院來資安協維護、精進、防護都可以用 |
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這個東西來講應該要再更具體化的去做一下你們的一個資安的一個細目的一個說明再好像第17案這邊你的這個尾半費當然是系統的建置但是這裡頭在你們預算書這邊寫的叫做 |
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APP的一些新增的開發或等等當然也牽扯到前線的控管但我覺得你們應該先把你們農業部所有的APP全部都統整之後儘量去減少因為我看你們農業部的APP實在是很多當然你們給我的回答討論的時候是說各個 |
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領域各個東西的使用權限不同但是我是覺得如果能夠盡量精簡然後後面的資料整合這個才是一個重點第二十案這邊的話農業智慧化也是一樣都是尾半這個叫成效追蹤的策略延期 |
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那這個策略的延期我就不知道是什麼所以我是覺得這個東西來講的話如果你是策略延期的話那你應該走的是類似consultant顧問的這種模式來進行你的整個剛剛的講的戰略的大規劃那我覺得如果你是把它放在這個項目又覺得這種戰略規劃又太小了一點 |
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在第21案這邊他這邊農業資料委辦農業決策生成模組研發跟建構的一個計畫這裡頭講的是並重範防止農業使用的一個農藥使用的養殖栽培產銷預測等建議但是一樣他還是AI模型所以你的資料來源是來自於哪裡然後呢品質是如何授權的機制 |
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以及你的模型到底是用哪一個準確率是多少可不可以用誤判之後你的這一個檢測機制是什麼有沒有人負責我覺得這個系統的整個judgment error的一個比例大概是多少或是我們講正確率是多少 |
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二十二萬也是你這邊又是農產品AI經營人才培訓跟使用的計畫當然AI的人才這些很重要但是我不曉得你培養的是什麼樣子的AI的人才因為就是我講的你在整個系統 |
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就是農業部到底要用AI來幫助你解決什麼問題而這個問題要解決是用AI可以解解到什麼程度所以我需要什麼樣子的人所以你是使用的人還是開發的人還是規劃的人力這些東西都沒有在你的AI人才就對焦對不起來就是你把那些以前的人才就是換一個名詞再換一個AI這樣子放進去而已 |
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第二十三案的話也是他說農業智慧化委辦費AI人才養成輔助業務推動研究發展計畫就是輔助推動所以這個我猜啦可能是一般的這些的地方的這些農務的人才但是到底是哪些人委辦是誰去做跟你的戰略目標是不是可以配合的起來所以如果是使用人才使用的會是什麼 |
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那再來是24案這裡農業場域的物聯網資料運用跟加值這裡頭的話就是我之前在質詢的時候說過整個物聯網的這個設備上限經過這些的不同的格式所以你的維護資料標準格式是通透那你這些的sensor在你農業部裡頭的資料收集是不是維持一致的然後 |
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這個我最終只要能夠看到說因為將來農業部都是在部長的比如說或者是你們各局處市的數位儀表板是可以看到real time的即時的或者是說激進即時的也可以這樣子我們才知道說你這些的物聯網這些sensor maintain的傳出來的資料是不是夠的或者是說這個是不是有一些瑕疵的一些管理 |
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所以這個大概我是對整個因為智慧化我希望是有個總體的戰略規劃然後你下來才知道你的預算要做什麼我需要什麼樣子的人這個是一開始我就希望好 謝謝洪祐祥委員現在請委員詢問完之後再請農業部總統答覆接下來請陳廷飛議員 |
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謝謝主席我其實在這一個我提案的最主要是我要了解到底我們食農教育因為當時候的休食農教育法也是我們當時候大家用心非常努力把它做了一個成效 |
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有法可以依循讓你們可以去執行那我也要了解說到底你們這段時間你們的食農教育做到什麼樣的程度你們只是把預算給大家去辦活動可是實質呢有真的達到你們食農教育的一個成效嗎 |
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所以這是我在這個部分為什麼我要凍結30萬要你們書面報告使得動之一個非常重要的關鍵因為到底你們給誰使用教育是給誰 |
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來做執行然後是補助給誰來做執行那你們誰去幫他做所謂的最後KPI的一個考管還是不管反正錢給了就算了有沒有達到效果也不管 |
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那是不是跟我們預期原本去編列這個預算就有點落差甚至是我們修法我們修法就是讓你們有武器可以真正去推動食農教育可是我感覺在這段時間並沒有到位所以我凍結30萬希望書面報告時的通知把所有的資料做一個完整的盤整跟資訊的告知 謝謝 |
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謝謝 楊瓊瑩委員謝謝主席 楊瓊瑩發言本期所提案的第10案特別針對於農業科技研究發展向下的畜牧業動物保護科技研發的部分最重要的就是說我們從去年開始114年度推動擴展 |
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動物收容量能計畫以新建現代化的動物保護生命交易園區來持續的擴增量能再改建具外部連結功能的動物收容處所來提升民眾的參與量能同時你要設置衛星認養站 |
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提升民眾觸及率 構置智慧化的管制設備提高無主權捕獲的效能但這個無主權捕獲的效能 我個人認為到目前為止我們似乎還是停滯 沒有進展 |
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而且方法也是維持以往的那你既然從114年推動到現在我看不到新的方法所以我認為這個應該要有所改變才能夠達到你便利預算的一個效能那這個案子呢我個人是說這個凍結5%那專案報告那這個專案報告呢我可以改為書面報告 |
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目的就是請你請你去把這個量能去把這個方法要提列出來這是第一個第十案的部分第十二案國際農業合作部長因為現在因為關稅的問題花生啊什麼樣的事件隨時會有做調整那我們的農民又碰到這麼嚴峻的一個考驗溫室效應 |
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你一定就看到厚厚但是它裡面是爛掉的它裡面是長霉的像玉米就有這樣子的一個現象像我們的南瓜掉在上面我們沒有想到它掉在上面裡面是爛的甚至快要好的時候它是掉下來掉下來的時候因為強降雨讓它掉下來掉下來我們還更危險的一個問題也就是土囊 |
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土囊這個病毒的問題所以我們的農民現在所碰到的是比以往更多元的問題很辛苦又碰到這個關稅問題那我們說譬如說花生也好等這些那 |
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我們當然是品質一流可是價格也是非常大的一個考量包括米也一樣你大量的他就會去用這個便宜的那所以台灣的農業除了我們一直在推展精緻跟唯一可是我們的通路要怎麼樣跟國際接軌我認為這個是非常非常的重要我們必須還是要研擬方案 |
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跟目前的現象去連結起來才能夠真正的保護我們的農民所以因此第12項我原本是刪除10%那我現在因為經過了溝通我們就凍結3%提書面報告請你把方法拿出來怎麼樣鏈接國際 |
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謝謝 請農業部陳部長綜合回答 之後我們進行處理我想委員提的很多建議我們都虛心接受我先針對玉林委員所提到的那個國際的那個貿易逆差的部分那第一個就是事實上我們 |
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從農業的整體來看的話那個逆差是無法改變的因為我們很多原物料是來自於國外的部分但是我們會把我們農業的重要的這些品項能夠積極的去拓銷 |
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那在這個科目裡面最主要是做一些外銷的一些拓展跟協助的部分那剛才委員所提到這個部分我想我們會虛心的針對怎麼樣去有效的利用這樣的一個經費去協助外銷這個部分我想我們會更努力來做那第二個部分就是 |
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侯益祥委員所提到的連續的跟我們農業的科技資訊有關的部分我想我也非常謝謝委員對於整個的一個包括AI的戰略相關的一個提出非常精闢的一些見解那我在這邊做幾個說明就是其實農業部本身 |
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我們講AI我一直不希望說AI變成一個形容詞我希望它是一個非常踏實去做的部分所以當我們在智慧化跟AI化事實上它有不同程度的差別特別是在垂直分工跟水平的合作的這個 |
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這個機制之下怎麼去做那委員個別所提的像15案的部分我們委辦有一個部分就是我想農業部大概不是AI的專業的人所以我們有一些一些相關的這些像 |
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委託那個國網中心有沒有國網中心去做相關的這些運算算力的部分包括租用他的設備的部分還有運算還有相關的紀理部分15第15案大部分大部分在國網中心去協助請他們來協助算力的部分那在16案的部分 |
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那是本來就放在我們部裡面的相關的機房的一個基本的維運的部分跟異地的備援的部分那第17案的部分事實上我們農業部這一兩年一直在做我們有19個比較重要的資料庫是牽扯到後續的 |
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這些天然災害的救助跟相關的這些申報的制度所以我們現在目前已經有做一些串聯我們更希望以後農民申請的時候是可以線上申請而不用到相關所那邊去做申請現在已經在桃園跟嘉義已經在做示範了所以如果資料庫能夠有效的串接的話在第一線的同仁就不需要 |
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包括地籍包括住址包括姓名包括身份證這個東西如果能夠串接的時候他們的申請就會快所以我們朝這個目標去做努力的部分那後續還有一些相關的這些我們的智慧農業的落地的部分包括普及率包括怎麼樣帶動農業那我想106年開始從我在農事組推動智慧農業那時候開始已經10年了那10年我們的確看到有一些成果但是農業跟 |
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工業不大一樣就是我們一開始的策略是四處點火哪一個產業有機會就哪一個產業先拉起來那現在看起來溫室的產業是拉起來了溫室有非常多的AI的智慧農業的部分都放在溫室裡面那接下來就是大田的部分怎麼樣透過知福業者去協助這是我想我們要努力的一個目標然後 |
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也因為要業者知道所以我們辦了一些教育訓練教育訓練分為兩塊就是您講的2223的部分一個是農企業的部分那農企的部分我們希望說像合作社長他已經是大型的內部的一個訓練怎麼樣讓他認識到AI包括 |
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那有的部分是在內部的部分包括我剛才說的我不希望AI變成一個形容詞那有很多人只會講AI代理人但是根本不知道AI代理人到底是什麼意思所以我們希望說透過有系統的訓練去讓他們去了解AI以後認識AI然後才能夠確實的 |
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執行到的部分那後面的部分像包括物聯網也是一樣我想也會最後的目標一定會達到委員的建議那我想再次謝謝委員對這方面的專業的建議那那個陳寗威委員所提到的食農教育的部分那食農教育基本上我們分三個區塊第一個區塊就是我們從學校端 |
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第二個區塊是從農會端第三個區塊從縣府端然後透過不同的方式能夠讓我們的消費者或我們民眾知道最重要的是除了認識農業以外更重要就是希望能夠推動地產地銷那更重要的就是 |
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要愛惜食物不要浪費食物特別是在愛惜食物在學校段的這些教育的部分是有成功的後續我想我們可以用書面的資料再跟委員做一個答覆那楊永英委員所提到的那像特別是在流量犬的部分那我必須說我們現在流量犬14萬9千多隻可是我們的收容所只有1萬1千 |
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所以沒有辦法匹配沒有辦法匹配變成什麼收容所少一隻你才去抓一隻所以我第一個策略就是在收容的單位部分除了縣市本能做的話我也請我們部裡面盤點林保署盤點可用的地然後去做一個比較不是那麼fancy的收容所能夠讓 |
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那個動物能夠有更多的收容這是第一個部分在場域端第二個部分是在怎麼樣讓消費那個民眾認識到這些流浪犬所以我們有很多衛星的部分甚至於我們未來打算在一些主要的市集也可以讓民眾有一些機會看到這些 |
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遊蕩犬的部分它其實是可以被收養的而不是用買民棍犬那第二個部分是您所提到的這些產品那我覺得非常重要我非常認同委員所提到的就是我們品質先要顧好 |
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我們怎麼樣在基礎建設上協助農民但是這些好的產品要打到國際去國際的一個通路一定是產品要穩定要持續品質要均一然後這個部分我想我們也會用書面報告也謝謝委員就是用凍結的方式書面報告的方式我想我們後續會把書面報告甚至於把我們未來的更明確的策略來跟委員來做相關的一個報告以上大概先做這樣說明謝謝 |
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這個農業部的預算我想主要還是為了農民跟漁民的這個整體的這個經營環境也牽涉到農業跟漁業的發展當然農業部預算是需要來協助農民跟漁業 |
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所以農業跟農業民需要國家預算的這個大力支持但是我們也關注到在預算執行面一定要有效率而且也要有效果就是我們這個來審查預算最主要的目的那在所有提案裡面第一幕的部分 |
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大部分委員提案就是凍結提書面報告那這個洪元寧的部分你提了8案8案總共檢列2580萬這部分是這樣子我是不是建議那個洪元因為過去我們在我先給你提我的建議你參考一下過去我們在經濟委員會審查農業部的預算的時候我們當時以凍結為主 |
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我也是希望說請相關行政部門針對預算執行能夠有更精確更有效率更得到農民跟漁民的支持那剪裂預算我們過去是比較少用剪裂預算所以我是不是請洪遠是不是能夠把您所剪裂的這些相關的科目是不是能夠用這個凍結的方式如果按照您的額度是不是可以 |
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政協委員會同時是不是就整個問我們動3000萬提書面包一個月之後提書面包之後是在動之的這是我的主席的建議來 洪議員我差不多也是這個意思因為這些AI的運算的來講其實它東西也不是很多但是我是覺得說就是我希望能夠看到總體的運用 |
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所以我也支持昭緯的意見就是說他現在的話反正就是凍結你們提書面報告來找我報告一下因為畢竟我還是可以看得懂這些東西但是我覺得將來我們還是排一個專案報告因為我覺得AI的應用在各個農業領域是很重要好不好對 洪委員你就可以自己排我可以那這個楊委員之後就在邱委員之後我們就進行這一幕的最後處理 |
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剛剛部長所說我的第十案主要也就是在認養的部分我有一個認同一個不認同一個不認同就是說你說因為我們的收容所只能夠一萬一千多隻所以我們就等到有一隻出去我們再去抓一隻這個觀念我不認同因為社會上需要的是如此這是第一個第二個認同的也就是我一直強調的認養機制 |
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任养机制因为我们现在到很多的家庭说你这只狗怎么这么赞到毛小孩这么好他说我去任养来的要不然就是说我在路上捡回来的大家已经有这个概念既然观念已经有所以你必须要实际行动去扩大 |
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就誠如剛剛部長所說的 我們到市集的場合大家這麼好 而不是 比如說我後里有很好的動物之家但是你要開了一部車 到我後里動物之家有的人沒那個時間啊所以我們應該把被動化為主動 這個是我建議給部長的所以第十案呢 我就改為主決議 |
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那第十二案的這個部分剛剛這個部長也有說了那我要請問剛剛主席的財事是第一幕我們就全部凍結三千萬所以就是讓他們去融通是不是如此那如果您改成組決議的話我們這個凍結的額度要不要再往下降一下 |
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你聽我講一下吧所以剛剛有決議是凍結3000萬是整個木 靈活嘛那所以我的第12案就改為這個主決議但是我還是要請部長這一邊因為像我剛從英法回來我們的 |
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這個農產品真的是大家都非常非常的愛甚至他們來我們感謝育和包跟愛文芒果他們看為官職真的用這個字形容應該是鼓舞在形容可以用到我們的農產品所以我們這個農產品的質是多好但是我們要怎麼樣去跟國際接軌把我們農民的 |
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這個產值可以增加 這是我們目前現在必須要去做的也以因應整個關稅的這個議題嘛各方各縣一起來協助我們農民所以第十二案 我的遵照主席的才是一目全部凍結三千萬一咪咪笑 你看所以這個案子也改為主席 笑得很燦爛你剛剛提到月核報月核報最好事的就是在秋營雲林委員的選區 |
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最後請邱議員好 謝謝邱議員那我們就整個幕 第一幕農業科技研究發展整個幕這個凍結三千萬一個月之內提出書面報告之後使得凍值好 進第二幕一般行政從25項25案到27案25案先問委員提案是不是改組決議 謝謝委員 |
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那26案跟27案楊瓊盈委員跟李玉玲委員你們要特別再說明一下還是就直接請農業部答覆好 請農業部針對兩位委員的提案做說明主席我那個27案可以改組決議好 李玉玲27案改組決議那針對三位委員的提案請農業部陳部長綜合說明好 謝謝委員那就是 |
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特別是謝議院委員這邊也謝謝謝議院委員的關心我們相關的這些肥料的問題包括楊委員這邊那我要跟委員報告台肥這樣子的一個利潤減少最主要是我們現在的肥料在COVID-19的時候110年的時候就動漲 |
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那凍脹的部分所有的原物料上脹都是台肥吸收50%政府吸收50%換句話說它這幾年來幾乎稀釋的幾乎平均大概一年大概將近要10億啦這三年來大概吸收了10億的部分因為我們不是說 |
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動帳以後我百分之百由政府部門去補貼價差這個帳幅的價差而是政府出百分之五十那台北願意盡他的社會責任好吸收百分之五十所以相對的他因為吸收的肥料的帳幅的部分所以他會回饋到他的利潤的減少 |
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但是他們的EPS大概維持大概每年大概是兩塊錢左右是比較穩定的部分所以這個部分我想我們後續也會去督促台飛怎麼樣去開發更友善的包括本來40公斤現在變20公斤年紀大的比較好搬那個肥料他們也很樂意直接去修改他們的製程 |
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把這個肥料變成小包裝他們容易搬運這個部分那包括呂玉玲委員這邊特別提到的動保法的部分那也謝謝委員改成主決議這個部分那我想我們後續本身的動物保護的部分 |
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因為現在動物保護正在立法院審議那審議部分有不同的立案關係有不同的意見我們現在正在積極的溝通包括狗出去要練相關的練條這個部分我想是基本的禮貌啦但是相對的城鄉也有一些差異性所以我們現在正在做積極的溝通用什麼方式能夠讓大家可以接受讓這個法能夠順利的在立法院能夠通過委員會而決議以上 |
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主決議的該主決議都回答 我三等你不回答 你同意是不是 |
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你同意是不是?你連回答都沒回答我是期待您就是你連回答都沒回答 你是同意是不是?我當然建議委員就是我剛才只是解釋內容你不能建議啊 你要說明啊我剛才說明的就是在這邊您所提到的就是台肥的那個利潤減少嘛那我剛才說的台肥利潤減少最主要是他花了非常多的錢是在吸收肥料的價差價格的價差 |
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那這個價格調查不是政府百分之百補助的喔是台北吸收的百分之五十所以換句話說它的利潤會減少但是它相對於EPS大概每年大概維持兩塊錢啊好 楊卿瑋主席 楊卿瑋發言部長其實我提這個案子主要就是說因為我們農業部是股東你股東更應該要以股東的身份去監督是 |
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去討論出我們農民的需求 |
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第二個也就是您剛才已經有說明了因為我們現在你給他看平均農民生產的年齡現在大家精緻型而且呢肥料也不是說以量他越做越精緻越做越精緻 |
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跟這個電腦都一樣了甚至一台一支手機就已經是以前所有的電腦現在已經都改變了所以我們以股東的身份跟世界怎麼去接軌這一些的肥料怎麼樣去精進讓我們農民在使用的時候更加的方便它不只是只有包裝由大變小40公斤40kg變20kg10kg變5kg不是只有這樣子而是它的內容物 |
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我提這個案子的重點是如此那你如果認同我就願意改為主決議加油我認同那你拜託你把那個你們希望他們可以怎麼樣監禁等於我們是股東嘛對我知道那你也順便資料給我們非常謝謝楊委員那我們也會持續監督包括現在一些肥料的反適性肥料的部分他們也在加強了那個包裝的改變然後還有一些用肥的效率的部分我想我們會用股東的身份去持續的去督導謝謝委員 |
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我也同意楊全英委員的說法因為這個會期會期漫長所以而後有時間我也針對台北來再排一個 而後有時間的話來排一個類似專案報告好我們進行處理第二幕一般行政的部分謝謝楊全英委員改成主決議我們就預算照列第三幕第三幕農業管理部門原定收入7,696萬1千億元請各位看到從28案到59案我們一起處理 |
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其中30案奈良提案32案宗教兵提案35邱志伟提案然后37邱毅英提案40案奈良提案41蔡玉玉提案44邱志伟提案以及48蔡玉玉提案50宗教兵提案52谢一凤提案53奈良提案55邱毅英提案 |
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均改成主決議另外57案陳昌明委員先撤案那其他的部分有沒有委員要做再做詢問好先請哪位張家俊張家俊張家俊有來嗎不要讓他看不是以首席為主楊權宜委員之後林立寅委員林委員當然林委員 |
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第三十九案還是一樣就是國際農業的這個諮詢跟合作那這個我原本是要刪除10% |
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就是要怎麼樣跟國際來接軌那剛剛部長已經有說明就包含這個議題的諮詢的這個部分也要納入你要給我的書面資料所以第39案呢因為我們看到你去年1月份到8月份的農產品出口量 |
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是比113年同期你下降了一成這就讓我很緊張我們台灣的農民這麼厲害越做越棒為什麼成品越來越好為什麼你113年到114年你是下降一成10%所以這個讓我有點緊張所以我要勉勵你也要督導你一定要好好去把它 |
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提升提升所以這個部分呢剛才說明我也希望努力然後我願意改為主決議那並剛剛那個案子把你的改變的方式演繹的方式也一併書面資料那另外還有一個58案 |
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58案的部分就是農業管理花卉園區的一個管理那這個部分我個人認為以前我經常說的以前如果你去菜市場看到婦女的籃子裡頭有花的不到一成現在有花的七八成我真的覺得這個是我們農民努力的成效而且是生活一個一個提升那所以呢我們現在因為競爭對手荷蘭 |
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河南它的稅率那我方怎麼辦我方怎麼辦所以部長我個人認為花卉園區的一個農業管理裡頭這個部分我們真的要用心當然你可能說這個不是我方可以自己去決定但是談判籌碼也是我方可以決定的 |
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所以尤其荷蘭 你要想我們進行荷蘭的球種 百合花的球種趁著過年就不給我們進來沒有那個理由嘛 我要謝謝農業部跟檢察單位我們連夜去幫他解決那個問題不然一個農民兩三千萬的球種就沒了 |
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他那一年就整個都血本無歸還要賠錢 對不對所以我們緊急措施可以去完成農民的痛苦啊農民不應當承受的這些負面啊那所以我們現在面對到這些關稅的問題那我們未來整個花創中心我們要怎麼整理 |
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因為你已經有底氣了人民在他的菜籃子裡頭有一半以上五成以上都有花了那這就是我們的底氣我們在新創的花卉中心要怎麼去做所以我原本是要因為我看不到你的方法 |
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那你這邊的預算所以我原本是3組10%我現在同意用凍結5%你把方案拿出來尤其是新創的花卉市場你要看你現在去到哪裡我們的花卉中心假日禮拜五晚上禮拜六禮拜天都很多人而且他們複合式的在做市場這一些複合式的我們應該去拿世界各國的一個方式 |
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甚至有人已经将化会中心现在一夜结合连我们现在台中的这个世贸我们的这个台中世贸中心我们现在木工机在展的时候就跟饮食 |
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畢業結合因為你攢住那些人他要吃啊他再出去他就不回來了你就在裡面吃吃吧那這個是不是可以得以在我們新創花卉中心跟世界的這個方向我們去討論看看嘛不一定只有單純我們的花捏 |
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你要怎麼樣異業區結合甚至親子的他小孩可以玩像我們國運中心現在我們盧秀燕就弄兒童中心國運暨成人暨兒童不然他的兒童要怎麼辦他媽媽就不會來 |
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那所以這樣子的情況之下就可以把兒童跟給媽媽爸爸阿公阿嬤都結盟在一起我們的國運中心就很棒了人數就很多所以新創的化會中心除了展示除了研發的一個論壇之外很重要的有沒有可能去做異業結合讓人可以多數留在我們的園區裡頭 |
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我認為這個有討論的空間啦所以我凍結5%然後你們把方案去提出來謝謝楊權永元楊權永元你喜歡的玉合包給您送來的那是不是可以不要改凍結直接改組決議好了那就是這打氣 這打氣這打氣 對對對玉合包 這大樹玉合包 |
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謝謝邱營委員這個非常可口美味的這個可是我只有一顆而已待會再吃謝謝邱營委員全台灣最好吃的這個芋頭就是在邱營委員的選區在大樹大家可以多加採買 |
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謝謝主席也謝謝區議員委員育和包只小水分多所以我們農業部也要多多推廣好像是產量也不足所以大家要趕快來訂購只有兩個禮拜趕快來訂購 |
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好 可以網購 團購都可以本席的提案第28案最重要是要關心到就是我們全國糧食的安全我們定的自給率的目標是40%但是我們在113年看到糧食的供需年報我們自給率只有30%所以農業部是不是要重新訂定提升的目標跟具體的時程所以要做一個順便報告把這個方案做出來 |
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所以本席在這邊先凍結400萬在34案的話就是剛剛有提到的就是我們畜牧的台電的用電的這些問題我們114年我們用電已經增加到4億7千萬了這邊我們農業部是不是應該要協助產業跟我們整個落實的節能減碳的這個措施有具體的成效是不是可以在這邊承諾說我們會做到 |
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節能減碳要不然你們電費都一直增加 |
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如果你可以做到我就改組決議了好待會我們政府答覆好好234案我可以改組決要做到了那第38案的話就是我們農民學院要培育農業的專業人才才能夠讓我們減緩了這個農業人力的這個斷層的風險但是說107年從56.1萬已經降到這個114年的這個48.6萬是不是我們勞動 |
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那個利的短缺問題一直都沒有這個推動的政策有效的改善這個部分的話我可以改組決議但是你要順便報告 |
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還有43案43案就是農業部要配合我們的新南向政策我們整個平均農業出口的比例是佔25%但是每年成長的幅度非常的少你剛剛講的說要出口的部分跟我貿易力差的部分所以在新南向部分的話 |
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這又是同質性的產地所以在整個市場的區隔要強化品牌的定位上農業部應該提出具體的方案才能夠辦法去拓展我們的農業出口在這部分的話也請提出具體的方案這邊也可以改成組決議好 |
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還有56案56案的話就是部長你剛剛所提到的寵物的產業快速的發展用認養代替了這個購買但是我們看到這114年的統計台南彰化花蓮澎湖它的認養率都不到五成所以你的這個認養的部分你要如何去擴大認養的方案方式跟認養率這個 |
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請你們來做個追蹤這個部分我也可以改成主決議這追蹤辦理成效你要做個具體的報告以上好 謝謝李委員上次48案43案跟56案改成主決議現在請張雅琳委員好 我的提案是第49案這主要就是說遊蕩群的問題已經不是只有動物保護的議題我覺得這個大家都非常清楚從這段時間這幾年有非常多涉及公共安全濃縮損失以及交通安全的一個跨領域治理的問題 |
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那目前呢就是说我们也非常清楚的知道说每天其实每一天都有大概八起的一些交通事故是因为这些突然冲出来的游荡犬猫那对于农业及畜牧的损失也至少超过三千万那甚至也有可能被低估那但是呢现在比较大的问题是说现行的交通事故农损生态冲击及救援成本分散在不同的部会缺乏一致的统计所以其实我们很难去真正的掌握犬猫到底实际规模长怎么样子所以我是要求农业部要全面的估算 |
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這些社會成本並且和交通部環境部內政部建立資料串接及公開的機制那這個待會的話可能也可以再多說明一下子那再來第二個部分是 |
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第51案的部分就是說農業部在推動遊蕩犬貓管理的時候我希望說也要降低這個街頭的風險引導犬貓進入家庭最主要是說有很多也有這個四大商圈的遊蕩貓鬥鬥招車撵幣的事件所以說我們應該要去教育大眾 |
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犬貓如果長期生活在街頭就會面臨交通事故疾病及缺乏醫療照顧的風險所以我是要求農業部去盤點我們現行的補助經費是不是可以來研議公立收容與民間中途合作的機制並且建立篩選輔導認養教育及認養後追蹤機制這一方面我們也可以來降低這些棄養的問題同時也可以檢討認養補助跟退養承接的漏洞 |
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所以這個待會就是再請農業部再說明一下然後第三個是 |
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54案那主要是說我們現在其實在飼養的寵物其實已經有很多人不是飼養犬貓了所以其實還像是鳥魚這些爬蟲類其實都有那我們對於非犬貓的寵物的飼養數量繁殖販賣業者動物遊向以及地方救援的收容救援的量其實都還缺乏掌握所以如果沒有基礎的母樹的話後續的政策也很難精準的推動 |
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所以这些饲养条件也都跟犬猫的管理逻辑不一样是不是农业部可以提出整体的规划与分阶段的推动方案优先建立现况盘点饲养准则登记识别等等让犬猫宠物管理有完整且可执行的制度基础所以就是希望农业部可以来去说明接下来会如何的来做这些盘点特别是跟地方来合作 |
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來作為後續補助收容及公司協力的機制的規劃依據所以我今天講的這些部分都是希望說待會農業部可以完整的說明因為最重要的還是要去確保我們的這些遊蕩犬貓都可以有家可回也不會在路上造成不管他自己死亡或者是其他人民交通安全或是農損畜牧損失的一個問題 |
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謝謝最後請這個洪義強委員做一個總結再請農業部來做答覆我先就我提的案子稍微跟農業部詢問一下 |
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那首先在第29案的部分就是農業管理科技管理這一塊那主要是溯源農產品的驗證那主要我這邊當時簡略的原因是說因為你前期這個總成期的經費是60億5600萬但是在過去可能質詢率都不是很高那我就想要先知道說你們的預算的一個質詢率計劃的進度 |
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那因為在溝通的時候好像也沒看到那第二個我覺得你們在做溯源農產品其實假設以我一個顧問的角度來看的話就是我不會用補助建樹或行銷活動作為成果你應該是用覆蓋率啊抽菸合格率啊 |
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通路的集合率或者是你系統的查詢數量等等作為你這整個計劃的一個KPI才叫做有效果所以我跟你們溝通完之後我是可以不用簡列但是我會凍結你們要說明報告來跟我報告同意之後才可以凍結再來第36案的話 |
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我本來這邊是寫簡略一億那我跟你們溝通完之後的話因為是畜牧管理獎補助費的差額補貼這個我可以改成是一個主決議了但是在36萬這個主決我希望說你們到底補助這些是我們涵蓋這些中小型的農戶嗎 |
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因為這裡頭有些是電價或什麼等等的差額的補貼那也呼籲女議員講的你們這些節能的這些措施不然電價如果這樣一路漲你就一路補這個我可以改組決議36然後的話第46案的話就是農業管理國際農業諮商跟合作的這個是獎補助費 |
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因為這個獎補助費的話基本上是2億6400多萬那其中我們對亞書的相關捐助就高達2.1億所以基本上大概就是捐助這個捐助的話我是覺得說到底我們這個國際的市場啊那對我們農民到底有什麼幫助所以你們有提一些什麼書面的一個報告給我看那我覺得這個可能還是效益不是那麼明顯 |
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我常常在說我們有時候差價就不夠所以這個東西可能再稍微看一下那我這邊的話我是可以說你們要在我可以改凍結但是你要把他那個書面報告給我這個才可以啊不然我就覺得我為什麼一直都要去援助國外的我自己農民都顧不了然後呢第59案的話是農業花卉園區的一個管理這邊那 |
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主要當時我會這樣子簡略的原因就是說他是剛剛納入農業部的預算的體系就要花費創新的一個園區那基本上你這邊是公共建設跟設施費但是我還是希望你們要具體說明到底這個地方他具體可以多少營運的收入 |
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那因為這裡頭是不是一個所謂的像這個招商的目標進駐率還是宅男館的收費機制那我們也是希望這個能夠達到將來一個營運的必要我很害怕他又變成是蚊子館所以這個是大概我當時的一個目標那 |
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也鼓勵你因為剛剛開始進來所以我這邊來講的話我大概就是把它改凍結但是也是一樣我希望你們提出一個這個招商進駐率然後收費機制自主盈虧的商謀的機制同意之後使得凍結 |
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謝謝洪運祥委員 洪運祥委員29案改成凍結36案改成署決議另外46案改成凍結然後59案改成凍結好所有以上委員的所有這堆提案的詢問請農業部陳部長做綜合答覆 |
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謝謝委員的一些提醒跟建議那我先針對我從排序來看就是34案跟那個36案是跟電價有關的部分我要特別跟委員報告就是說這個看起來電價好像變多了那最主要其實我們對農業補貼的電價有分為兩個部分一個是優惠電價一個是 |
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動帳的價差的一個補貼那過去的價差是直接由台電來吸收的直接由台電那邊來吸收去處理但是在114年開始就是要由我們各單位編列預算去處理這個價差補貼所以看起來我們在 |
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114 從112當作基底年112到113年的時候他其實他的帳幅已經累積到23.2然後在114編列的時候我們是編了25.49億但是在113年10月子就是累積的帳幅已經40.4的部分所以我們在115年的預算就是 |
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就是編列了40.5億所以在這邊再次強調這個部分不是農民浪費電突然變多用電突然變多了是最主要是那個政策本來是由台電吸收現在轉成公務預算然後他的累積的累積的過去累積的這些市市的電費調漲的部分所累積出來的一個加差的部分我想跟委員做這樣的一個說明那在第 |
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35萬的部分那個張雅琳委員所提到的這個部分我想我們這個我等一下再回應因為動保有好幾個議題我等一下再回應然後另外那個 |
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李玉琳委員在38案的這個部分講到糧食自給率我們現在降低那我在這邊要特別報告包括剛才其他的委員像包括楊瓊英委員也提到我們外銷變少其實這113年 114年的部分大家都忘掉了我們 |
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去年連續的從丹納斯颱風連續的收到非常多的災損我們中南部的主要的產區很多本來可以外銷的水果像荔枝在去年幾乎沒什麼收捏所以它變成非常辛苦我們在拉外銷的時候變成那個量 |
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的部分但是我們針對主要的糧食作物像米的部分或主要的蔬菜類的部分我想我們的維持蠻高的蔬菜大概至少八十幾然後稻米的話是幾乎是百分之百魚類的也是但是相對的這些不同的水果品項特別是天然災害所影響的部分然後所以會導致糧食自給率有點有點比較低但是我覺得糧食自給率跟糧食安全是 |
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是不同的概念所以我們在確保糧食安全的部分之下我們盡可能的讓我們的基礎建設讓農民能夠提高他的防災的一個韌性這是我想我們最主要的一個目標那楊瓊英委員所提到的這個部分其實也是也是天災的部分造成我們非常多的這些農產品在去年度看起來那個外銷額外銷金額降低的部分那有一部分是 |
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銷日本的時候的匯率匯差的關係也有一部分的影響那但是我們還是會儘量的去協助那再來就是 |
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那個第43案那個李委員所提到的部分那這個部分我想我們同樣的也是剛才的理由就是說我們其實一直希望說外交能夠盡量但是如果看數據不見得跟我們的努力可能沒有辦法成正比啦那一個重點就是我們一定要加強國內的防災的韌性這樣的話我們的產品的出口才能夠具有穩定性那再來就是 |
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楊瓊英委員所提到的很多跟花卉有關那跟花卉有關在座那個謝萬委員也非常關心花卉的部分那事實上花卉的部分除了花創園區在做主導蘭花為主的部分但是在台中在後里在彰化 |
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這個部分的花卉其實也是更重要的那怎麼樣讓特別在產地的這些切花的花卉能夠直銷到都會區這是我們一直在努力的目標那我們現在看到如果都會區的這些像家樂福有賣鮮花其實就是我們農業部那時候推的希望說這些切花能夠觸及力能夠讓消費者更知道所以這個部分我想我們也會更努力的去做處理然後同樣的就是在有關於 |
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這個園區的管理的部分除了做展示做研發那我也非常認同應該跟異類做結合啦那現在我想我們在化妝中心其實已經開始有跟異類在做結但是也不僅是在 |
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相關的這個花莊中心我覺得在彰化在台中的地區我們也有一些作為是可以跟花卉的展示跟異類做一個結合過去我們都是在水果為主嘛那我想我們今年度開始我們會更著重在花卉與人的互動這個部分我想我們會會做來做處理然後 |
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再來就是張雅玲委員的部分那相對的就是在54案這個部分特別是犬貓的部分以外非犬貓的部分也越來越多那我也跟委員報告我們在動保法裡面有針對分級管理有納入修法在裡面的那我們也希望說透過這個修法的部分能夠更落實這個分級管理那一旦分級管理落實了 |
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有這樣的相關的規定的時候對於非犬貓的部分才能夠比較有系列的去處理然後同樣的就是這些犬貓的部分因為天然災害的部分不是有個天然災害 |
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49的部分包括您所關心的就是一些一些造成農損的部分然後交通事故還有一些生態的損失的部分那我也跟委員報告針對野生動物對於農損的部分我們現在開始研議相關的補償機制這個部分我想 |
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也有很多委員去要求那交通事故我想我們一直有像路沙的部分我們一直有有在做調查但是路沙引起的這些經費的損失這個部分我想我們可能必須要跟交通部 |
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後面去看怎麼樣去做有效的連結才能夠知道後面所造成的這些經濟的損失這個部分那這個部分我們現在目前是沒做的我們只統計野生動物對於交通事故有幾件但是它對交通事故造成的後續的影響我想也值得我們跟交通部去做有效的連結啦能夠讓大家看得到那些真正的影響 |
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然後51的部分是民間的收容那我想公私協力是委員一直所提倡的那同樣的就是我們現在開始也針對一些民間的收容所看看有沒有辦法去做改善過去我想我們政府的投入收容單位都是以公部門為主那私部門大概都是自己處理那現在我們今年開始我們也開始逐步的是從那個私人的收容所去做一個公私協力包括有一些地我們現在正在找 |
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然後未來也可能委託私人來經營 類似這樣的方式能夠盡量減少街上的遊蕩犬 但是不可否認的這種遊蕩犬本身的數量沒有辦法短期內之內消失 因為收容的量能不夠所以我們做源頭管理以外 我們也會增加認養的機會那剛才也講了就是說 除了一些衛星收容所以外 展示的部分也許我們 |
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會結合比較重大的這些活動的地點能夠展示一些這些遊蕩犬的一個收容的機制把它做一個結合 |
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我想再跟部長溝通一下第49案我主要是要調查因為現在野生動物我們有做一些農損 |
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來要去建立這個農損跟商人統計然後進入補償機制那我這一個部分主要是針對遊蕩犬的部分也會造來農損這個部分也是應該要做出一併的統計那這個部分請農業部答覆我們現在說實在沒辦法統計因為我們過去這些野生動物犬貓造成農損的時候並沒有做救助沒有救助就沒有相關的資料會有接受到一些反應 |
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但是我已經承諾很多委員就是說我們會把野生動物或者是一般的動物造成這些田園的損失的部分我們會做有系統的一個專案的救助那這樣的話那樣的資料才能夠去做一個統計對就是說因為剛剛只有講到野生動物啦所以這犬貓的部分有讓犬貓造成的事故也是會一併來做統計嘛一併來做一些研究嘛對不對跟野生動物是一致的嘛 |
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那個 詹委員那個提案 因為我有共同提案 我對這個也很重視這個會期是非常到非常漫長 到8月底時間許可的話 我針對這一題我們再排一個報告來做一個詳細的討論那時候我們就大家針對您所關心的各項議題我們就可以請農業部表示更完整的意見詹委員那我們先來做預算處理對不對 |
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我要先與眾行長跟他報告一下再處理啦 因為我跟他很多的主決議我是給我們農業部鼓勵但是部長剛剛沒有回答到我的問題但我要先與眾行長講一下第三步處理完我們要休息7分鐘10分鐘也可以 7分鐘但是因為你講完之後他們簡短答覆我就要做一個處理啦因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
8272.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
8297.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
我想如果已經連續開會兩個小時應該讓大家稍微適度休息部長 本席剛剛特別請你了解說我們糧食的安全我們的目標值40%是不是很多年沒有調整或是你要提升還有就是說你現在說這個糧食的安全跟我們的自給率是不一樣的所以你要做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
8298.772 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
8325.701 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
所以整個因應的策略你要做出來包括我們就說你的糧食安全的那個百分之四十是現在是也是訂到百分之四十嘛那我們的整個供應的問題有沒有解決這個整個方案裡面都要做一個處理好不好還有就是說剛剛特別提到裡面我們農產品要拓展到國外去那剛剛我們提到的是新南向政策在這個新南向政策裡面的話因為同質性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
8326.621 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
8349.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
產品 區域 我們是不是在區隔怎麼去強化我們自己的品牌才有辦法把它提升啊要不然我們一直在出國在東南亞只有25%而已沒有在進展啦 一直往下滑沒有在突破性的 有什麼困難那我們要送到歐洲去的話 運出時間又這麼長我們的農產品可能不太適合送到歐洲 這要怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
8351.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
8362.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
讓我們農產品能夠到歐洲也能夠在東南亞可以有我們自己品牌這個問題你要去強化它才有精進的方案不然的話就慢慢又衰退了是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
8366.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
8384.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
第一個部分呢40%還是我們未來的一個目標跟願景但是現階段來講最大的問題是在飼料的刺激率太低因為大部分的飼料大概都是從國外進口的我舉個例子我們現在的玉米大概只撐三個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
8386.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
8404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們自己國產的部分我們要想辦法提高所以我們在做那個漢做的鼓勵的部分才能夠有效的讓這個市局拉升這個部分我想我們在後面的規劃我想我會再更詳細的跟委員做一個說明那另外的部分南向的新南向的部分您講的非常好就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
8405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
8433.934 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
我們跟新南向有一些產品有同質性但是在同質性的產品不能說就沒有競爭力我們要把那個價值去拉開所以我們現在在新加坡本身會用一個未來的一個非常重要的據點因為新加坡本身它是比較重視高品質的部分然後才從新加坡跟馬來西亞跟越南某一些水果的品項是他們有意願的部分我們才會從這邊去做這些差異化的市場區隔好 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
8435.074 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
8450.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
部長我有去參觀過新加坡他們的一個超市我就不講名字了他是超市各國的不管是番茄各國的東南亞的也有歐洲的有番茄他全部展示上面價格也展示上面 |
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8450.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
8478.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
所以我們要去強化我說我們強化我們荔枝也可以銷過去啊芒果也可以銷過去那我們怎麼樣去強化說我們的品牌讓大家可以去選購這樣子我們的出口率我們才會增加才會提高不然的話人家不選購的話我們就會越來越降低我要提出的就是這個問題您要不要針對李委員所提出的事項下午啊立刻跟這個李委員辦公室做個詳細的說明我們現在進行處理黃縣主席再講一句話就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
8478.663 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
8479.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
因為第四幕已經討論很久第三幕已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
8504.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
8530.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
討論很久 所有的委員提案有關於這個檢定案均改成凍結案主席做一下建議是不是整個第三幕能力管理部分原定數277,696萬1千元我們這個凍結五千萬凍結五千萬一個月之內提出各項書面報告之後 死得凍之好 那現在休息七分鐘接下來回來繼續處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
8541.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
8541.394 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
我们马上回来 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
8555.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
8556.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
8577.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
8585.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
8596.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
8597.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
這裏是地雲,看不出來嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
8613.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
8620.357 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
因為它已經全部都熟了,三一三一,三一三一,三一三一, |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
8642.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
8646.326 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
8668.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
8675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
8683.817 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
8705.431 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
8721.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
8725.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
沙漠中央公園 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
8733.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
8736.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
這座樓宇是一座建築物的主要建築。 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
8759.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
8761.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
在這裏有幾個大廈。這裏有幾個大廈。這裏有幾個大廈。 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
8788.637 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
8791.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
中文字幕志愿者 李宗盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
8806.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
8809.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨茜茜 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
8827.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
8828.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
我吃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
8851.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
8853.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
中文字幕志愿者 杨栋梁 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
8882.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
8883.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
來,陳昭明哥哥做功課 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
8909.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
8920.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
這裏有個大廈。這裏有個大廈。這裏有個大廈。 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
8952.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
8953.905 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
請練習官員請回座請練習官員請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
8967.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
8973.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
請 會議室請保持 請保持安靜好 有關於這個楊瓊園委員第349號跟58案均改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
8978.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
9006.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
剛剛已經有宣讀好 我們繼續處理第四幕農業發展 原定稅379億9473萬提案是從六十案到八十五案我們一起處理 六十案到八十五案其中六十一案參與六十二案鍾嘉斌 六十三案鍾嘉斌以及六十五案賴瑞榮 六十八案鄭振前六十九案鍾嘉斌 七十案鍾嘉斌 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
9008.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
9031.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
以及73案邱志偉74案陳超明76案邱益穎77案謝一鳳79案謝一鳳以及80案邱志偉跟吳立華82案鄭振淺83案鄭天才85案邱志偉吳立華均改成組決議另外71案這個測案好我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
9038.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
9047.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
第四幕農業發展請提案委員如果沒有另外再說明的話我就要請農業部陳部長針對委員提案做綜合性答覆請陳部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
9050.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
9072.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
好 謝謝委員那這一幕裡面最主要是農業發展的部分那也謝謝委員很多的一些指證然後用主決的方式未來我想我們會針對主決的方式會在相關的落實後面的一個主決的落實那這邊最主要的有幾個案子我必須這邊可以說明的部分就是有關於無人機的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
9073.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
9098.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
那相關的這些委員 侯委員這邊有簡列的部分那因為農業應用應用在無人機是在做運用端而不是在做研發端那針對我們相關的影像的判試 病床害的噴灑然後還有這些影像的後製都需要這樣的一個經費那我們也希望說能夠不用簡列的部分來處理的那後續還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
9099.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
9127.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
包括也是吳委員所提到的這些簡列的部分那也是相關的無人機的部分那這個部分基本上是針對動植物的一個監測還有噴藥防疫還有林業的災害的監測還有漁場的這些探測的部分所以我們也建議委員這邊能夠不予簡列的部分我想先做這樣的說明好 關於第四幕的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
9129.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
9134.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
來 七十八案改組決議好 七十八案李玲委員改組決議另外楊小英委員要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
9138.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
9159.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
我覺得這個部分真的不要刪因為我們現在農業的人力已經非常的老化當然我們有輔導一些青農但是比例還是很少所以在無人機的方面我還是要勉勵農業部要好好的去運用因為我們農業是要用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
9162.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
9183.783 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
所以我是這樣子的建議能夠來彌補很多的我們的農業勞力農業人力不足的一個部分謝謝好謝謝楊學英委員好如果沒有還有洪義強委員我稍微說明一下就是說在72案這邊來講的話它這個主要是無人載具產業發展的統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
9189.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
9207.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
那這個計劃基本上就是因為我參與過國科會整個科技預算就整個國科會科技預算大的下來之後然後他就開始分錢到各部會去各部會有時候就不知道說這筆錢掉下來然後做什麼事因為撇開這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
9209.412 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
9236.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
無人載具的發展的統籌型計畫的話在過去農業部就有很多無人機的一些購置跟應用的服務嘛不管是你的窯廁的部分等等甚至是農藥噴灑甚至是農田的這個農地的育孤啊對不對植物病蟲海所以就是說突然天上掉下來這一筆錢之後你的運用就是跟你過去的這個到底有什麼樣子的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
9237.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
9241.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
因為我是很抨擊有時候國科會這種TOP DOWN的這種預算的規劃這個有時候部會講說是天上掉下來的錢不知道怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
9248.126 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
9270.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
所以我為什麼會對這一個東西最特別簡略就是說我希望你能夠告訴我因為你過去不是沒有用過無人機如果今天是農業部過去沒有用過無人機你今天這個是新的天上掉下來的禮物的錢而這個我絕對支持因為這個畢竟是一個應該要做的趨勢那過去你應該是有的這個可以先簡單說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
9274.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
9299.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
其他的那個81案這個東西的話呢這個我是改成凍結因為我是覺得這個東西可以做但是我的要求就是說書面報告的要求是說因為你這個跟農業空間資訊段的這些的系統然後資料的全者的整合這個再給一個書面報告就可以凍結這是81那我對72是比較關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
9301.676 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
9320.609 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
好 請農民部長答覆好 謝謝委員我想第一個部分這個計畫不是來自於國科會的部分不是屬於科技計畫的部分當然在無人機的產業的分配其實我們對無人機其實已經有一個比較完整的事先的規劃我剛才說的就是我們是在應用端那應用端的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
9321.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
9349.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
我們從衛星影像到航遙測的部分一直到無人機的部分我們是三層的做圖資的對接的部分所以剛才已經特別提到我們做像森林最近乾旱很多這種所謂的這種火苗的判試森林大火的火苗的判試那它有些用熱影像的部分搭配無人機載具去做定點的監控特別是在剛起火的那一剎那的部分那過往我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
9349.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
9372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
的確是有靈性的去購買這些無人機的部分但是相對的當我們發現到無人機的產物無人機本身的運用應該有更大的特別是植物病狀態防範噴藥的部分還有漁場的遠近海漁場的監測的部分那這個部分我都要求我們的所屬單位一定要善用這樣的無人機能夠去做一些我們過往沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
9373.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
9386.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
沒辦法去探測的這些地點盡量用無人機的部分所以還是請委員能夠支持那82案是航遙測的部分那因為他牽扯到後面的這些叛徒還有這些後製的這些經費在那裡面 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
9388.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
9413.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
我還是要告訴部長正確的概念這種科技的tabletown的預算還是國科會下來只不過這個叫做無人載具產業發展統籌型計畫是歸給經濟部去做我們叫計畫的執行的秘書所以各部會是都有這一支計畫只是我們分到這樣的錢但是你剛剛還是要回答我的問題過去你們還是有編一堆無人機的業務嗎有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
9417.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
9439.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
因為那時候無人機並沒有一個真正的一個計畫都是他們在做病重案監測那為了監測他們去買無人機所以我的意思是說各部會多就你的農業部底下還有很多除了你的部還有署這些他整個東西到農業部應該統籌來整個彙整到一個大的一個無人機的運用的發展這個是OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
9440.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
9456.031 |
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但是你要把它整個交易因為你現在是拆成就是因為又多一個新的所以你又再多增加一些預算來做所以我意思是說這個地方我是可以不簡略一億多不知道你要幹嘛 |
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我只舉個例子我們做無人機本身噴藥好了無人機噴藥不是把農藥就放在無人機上面就噴了因為它的劑型都要去做研究所以它是搭載在無人機的這個向下去做相關的這些研究或是研發的部分而不是純粹說去購買無人機啦所以我剛才一直強調就是說無人機要運用本身那個技術一定要夠成熟你才能夠去做運用 |
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那像森林大火本身的起火點的火苗的熱影像的判試那這個判試如果精準的話那相關的第一時間就可以滅火那有一些可能不是火苗而是其他的零星的這些影像那這個部分也是要做相關的研究然後去搭配無人載具去做相關的處理 |
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好 那個洪偉 這個無人機這個我知道你長期對事務是民事專家這個我覺得農業部有這個責任讓洪委員瞭解發展這個無人機過去怎麼合作那現在你們自己又變那麼多預算去怎麼執行這一定要讓洪委員很清楚瞭解因為洪委員也是召委所以這部分我是不是就拜託洪委員您剛剛說可以改成凍結嘛 |
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當然我希望說農業部能夠很詳細的針對洪委員關係的事項提出一個完整的書面報告那洪委員我是不是這樣建議因為農業發展裡面這比喻算將近400億是整個農業部的一個最核心最重要的部分所以我很多這個委員提案都已經改成主旨意甚至統計了一下 |
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那凍結的部分大概是三千萬出頭那我是不是介意我們基金委員會是不是第四幕的部分我們凍結三千萬提出書面一個月之內提出書面報告之後是得凍制的 |
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可以讓我同意一下再動之嗎好 可以嗎那董事長請問可以讓我書院報告因為我怕你們家的書院報告然後就動之了可以讓我同意一下再動之嗎我可以在這邊承諾因為 |
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你也知道我過去從研究單位上來的我對無人機包括整個空間的規劃資訊我都有很重的一個賦予他們的一個責任我們除了書面報告我也很樂意親自去跟委員做一個說明那個 先那個邱議員 |
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好 谢谢主席那个本席提案的84案我想把它改成组决议但是对于整个冷链系统的建制跟整个进度我想这个可能还是要请农业部来做更进一步的说明好 请 |
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我覺得剛剛洪委員講的很有道理因為他特別關心了這個部分我建請我們農業部你要你把你的方案內容趕快去跟這個洪委員說明清楚那我贊同剛剛主席所採釋的我們第四幕整個幕 |
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就是以這個凍結三千萬你要將我們委員所提案的必須要去書面資料去說明清楚那要送出經濟委員會的時候個別委員提案的你要個別去跟他們說明清楚再送到經濟委員會這樣子謝謝 以上建言 |
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謝謝洪委員 謝謝楊全英委員那協議委員84案改成主決議好 包括我們這個第四幕農業發展的部分我們這個凍結3000萬 報告委員這邊還有一個就是說第77案那個歇用委員這邊也改成主決議這個已經宣讀了 我們已經宣讀這個宣讀就按照這個主席這邊才是就不用再提出 |
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這已經 我剛宣讀過了第四幕的部分能源發展 原業率是379億9千4百73萬我們凍結3千萬一個月之內提出說明報告之後 使得凍值我們接著處理第七幕社會保險業務 原業率是246億1948萬7千元 |
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請委員看到第86案跟87案蔡允筠的提案86改成主決議楊委員 |
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謝謝主席 楊潔瑜發言87案本席所提社會保險業務跟農民保險業務245億4819萬4千元所以我要請到部長 大家都很關心我們的老農津貼那老農津貼我們預算通過我們要從什麼時候開始執行你不能吃到我們被刑的該還給人家的就要還 |
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那我們要追溯什麼時候開始因為本席就認為我們必須一定要完整的還給我們的老農一個尊嚴請做說明 |
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好 請農業部 沈部長說明我跟你們報告 農農今天本身就是我們正在等立法院最後的院會通過我們才能夠實施那現在立法院院會還沒有通過然後通過以後我們會通過對 因為現在都在審了要通過通過的話我們會追溯到1月1號 |
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從115年1月份 今年的1月1號 對我們會追溯 確定是如此嗎 是一定要還給我們農民的一個尊嚴嘛 對那也希望委員支持 那這個87案本期的主議就是要還給我們農民的一個尊嚴然後今天通過之後 我們就是從115年的1月份 |
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起算來發放那所以呢這個主席87案我改為主決議謝謝謝謝楊全議員87案改成主決議好第7目社會保險業務預算照列第8目農民福利業務約內467億4994萬6千元這個提案是從88案開始 |
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到八到九十案那八十八案鍾嘉斌改組決議八十九案鍾嘉斌跟他會改組決議九十案部分這個理委員 |
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好 這個也是在講我們的農民保險的那個退休儲金的部分那剛剛也都提到了我們都有提出一個相對應的一個方案來鼓勵農民來提撥這個退休儲金那最重要的問題是老農津貼的金額已經看到越來越高了他們認為老農津 |
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津貼這部分的話他們就可以作為他們退休所以參加的人數大概只有40%而已那我們希望我們農業多多做宣傳他如果老農津貼老農津貼跟我們的儲蓄儲金這個是可以雙軌並進兩個都可以領對不對兩個都可以領對不對 |
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沒有 兩個都可以領但是一個是65歲以後才可以領都是65歲以後才可以領這個要跟農民做宣傳會他們有些不清楚就不要保了他認為是我有老農津貼就好了不用這個退休儲金了所以好好的做這個宣導好不好我這個可以改組決議好 謝謝李委員李委員所提第九三案改成組決議第八目農民福利業務預算照列 |
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好 我們接著處理組決議來 請農業部先準備好因為你們相關的組決議應該都有做相關的討論過那組決議去到哪一案的時候你們要清楚的表達你們意見農業部陳副長可以了嗎來 我們處理組決議 組決議第九十一案遵照辦理 |
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已經送委員已經修改文字 |
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請說明我也簽名了好大概把修改文字稍微稍微訓明一下好是這個嗎 |
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那個張偉宇也簽名了齁對張偉宇也簽名了這個你們修改的內容講一下好那最主要就是我們修改的內容是在倒數的1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9第九行倒數的第九行齁但最終因決策擴大策略以及不及當下狀況這個刪掉那改成最終採取那個保守的 |
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聯繫方案作為警戒發表依據並通知花蓮縣政府你們修改文字是不是可以寫清楚一點我們連部長都很難看修改文字稍微寫清楚一點 |
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那不見得部長來唸 其他同仁唸一下你修改的內容你們唸一下好不好繼續唸下去第十行的部分 |
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情境的模型逗點然後接下來就改了喔改成最終採取保守的聯集方式逗點作為警戒發布依據逗點並通知花蓮縣政府立刻執行強制性撤離及應變措施逗點最終人造成18人頭這樣這個修正部分那個張教育委員也請平好就暫停修正條文通過 |
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一百零一案一百零一案一百零一案照案通過一百零二案一百零二案就是你剛才唸的照案通過照修正文通過一百 |
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103案遵照辦理 照案通過104案遵照辦理 照案通過105案遵照辦理 照案通過106案照修正的文字來修正文字我看一下那個有沒有經過提案委員同意有經過提案委員同意嗎稍微敘明一下這個修正內容這個誰修正的你稍微講一下怎麼修正我看一下106 |
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我幫你們講喔106案這個倒數第四行法及各類災害潛勢圖示建置畜牧場災害潛勢分析資料庫把它刪除好主席還要幫你唸主席不可以幫你唸你們同仁請注意喔你們修正的部分你們自己來唸哪個提案自己的詩都不知道 |
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各司處同仁這個針對組結的部分要趕快好106案按照修正文字通過107案遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理修正文字跟各位委員報告那我們有跟委員這邊辦公室有處理協調之後修正文字第二段的第二行逗點 |
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自明2026年度起那設定友善動物續產隨產的研究經費不得低於30%並逐年提升這段話刪除以上好 按照修正文字通過112剛剛是112剛剛112 按照修正文字通過好 113修正文字 |
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來 請說改書面報告改書面報告改書面報告 專案報告改書面報告好1134書面報告 專案報告改書面報告好 按照修正文字通過剛剛11我們處理12修正文字11修正文字 |
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114 專案通過114 專案報告改書面報告115 按照修正文件通過116 遵照辦理117 遵照辦理118 遵照辦理119 遵照辦理120 |
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一二零遵照辦理 遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理遵照辦理 |
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報告修正委抓到八號改書面報告楊委員可以同意嗎他要改書面啦你連要改都沒有理由 |
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台北已經有在改善我跟委員報告就是說我們希望用書面報告的方式因為專案報告另外還在排委員會嘛那因為現在已經到了五月了我們希望說能夠盡快的先提送書面報告那如果委員針對書面報告如果有覺得不好的地方我們再另外安排會議的報告好 謝謝好 按照修正文通過128 |
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遭案通過129案 遵照辦理遭案通過130案 遵照辦理遭案通過131案 遵照辦理遭案通過130案 遵照辦理遭案通過134案 遵照辦理遭案通過136案 遵照辦理遭案通過137案 |
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捐造辦理 招安通過138案捐造辦理 招安通過139案捐造辦理 招安通過140案捐造辦理 招安通過141案捐造辦理 招安通過142案捐造辦理 招安通過140案捐造辦理 招安通過144案捐造辦理 招安通過145案 |
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145案改書面報告 改書面報告好 照案在修正文字通過146案遵照辦理 照案通過147案修正文字146案修正文字 請說146不是通過了嗎146請說 |
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報告委員我們修正文字我們說希望所謂這個 |
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你們修正文字那個內容我都有看了是大家寫得清楚一點賴瑞榮也同意我們就按照修正文字通過但是請提供給所有委員因為你這個修了很多請提供給在場所有委員你們修改的部分這個跟各位委員說明一下這個賴瑞榮提案他有跟他說明過他也同意按照修正文字那要把這修正文字給所有在場委員 |
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主席我建議農業部大家都要問農民你們各部各司自己的都不知道有主席台面這史上頭一招而且我們桌上也沒有你們修改文字的內容大家互相主席應該要宣布一下吧我來辛苦一點我把這個修正提案修正內容說明一下這個 |
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倒數第十行 第一點 請協助公司政府提出申請加一個延商高雄肉品市場是否適合納入建構農產品冷鏈物流及品質確保示範體系第二期計畫優先補助對象並檢視其轉型為現代化冷鏈物流中心之可行性第五點的部分 最後兩行就刪除好 這個讓政府同意好 我們就按照修正文件通過 |
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現在第幾案啊148 按照修正文通過 |
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147還沒報好 147號 我要先讀一下147號倒數第10行建立農業繳信息等從這個刪除那第4點刪除第5點改成第4點這個賴榮宇簽名按照修正文字通過148案這個修正文字修正文字需提供書面報告 |
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那主席 主席您休息半分鐘沒有那個主席自己在念的我們競技委員會怎麼可以這樣這個都錄影錄音的沒關係啦 那個讓議事能夠進行齁但是呢 那個這個我為什麼這樣做齁我為什麼這樣做 我就 |
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農業部你們自己來檢討這個最後的主決議是最後才處理你們有很多時間可以做因應跟準備啊那相關的李修正文是早就該給所有的在場委員嘛那我自己跳出來念是讓你們自己去檢討你們剛才不好意思不應該有主席來念 |
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楊學文也是講得很客氣我是這樣用這個做法讓你們感到餓後這種事情不能再發生了否則我就就沒辦法繼續審下去了來148案 |
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報告委員主席針對就是修正的這個部分的請容我簡單說明一下就是倒數的第一段跟第二段針對中國經第三地如越南轉運至高風險農產品建立風險分級與專案查核機制強化原產地認定制度導入科學檢測技術如同 |
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同位素的檢測DNA的溯源等提升查核準確性第二段建立農產品跨境流向監測機制針對進出口異常數量如出口量超出當地生產能力進行預警與調查強化與關務署經濟部以及相關單位的跨部會合作以建立防堵洗產地聯防機制其他沒有變化謝謝以上好那就148案按照修正文件通過149案 |
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註照辦理 責任通過150案 註照辦理 責任通過150案 註照辦理 責任通過150案 註照辦理 責任通過150案 註照辦理 責任通過154案 註照辦理 責任通過155案 註照辦理 責任通過156案 修正文字 請說 |
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那個修正文字的部分是在第4段的第2行開始那我把修正後的文字就直接念了嚴厲將國產財碳足跡優勢提供教育部說明文案 |
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逗點逼供規劃採購參考頓號然後開發創意以附加價值是國產財產品括號這個這個都沒有修正一直到建立這個兩個字改成引進然後企業引進企業資源開發沐浴教育教具及教案捐贈偏鄉或急需汰換設備之學校 |
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好 按照修正文件通過157案修正文件請說報告主席 我們就是第三段最後一段 農業部應於一個月內提出循環原料飼料生產可行性評估報告後面就沒有再修正好 按照修正文件通過158案 |
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我們今天上午分會時間到12點我們中午會休息一個小時 |
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我們這個楊偉霖建議主席來採納也希望說儘快把農業部相關所屬的這個預算趕快審完讓各位同仁可以回去辦公好我們繼續處理這個農業部林業及自然保育署及所屬準備好了嗎可以了好 |
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159案跟160案改成主決議然後161案處理第二幕的一般行政161案洪委員跟162案楊崇義委員楊委員是要撤案嗎對好 楊委員撤案那161洪委員要不要補充 |
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我也有跟你們溝通過因為那個的確蠻老舊的所以改成組決議這樣就可以謝謝黃委員161案改成組決議第二幕一般行政照列第三幕理念管理部分總共有事案163案到166那其中163案參與於改成組決議164到六龍仔改組決議165參與於改組決議另外本席的提案跟五六八提案先撤案好 |
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第3幕林業管理 照列第4幕林業發展的部分 原定數73億 事件問題802萬9千元大家看從167案到193案 我一併處理其中呢 |
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170案內容提案改成主決議173案先用提案轉主決議174邱志偉吳立法提案改成主決議175陳沙明提案改主決議另外183蔡宇改主決議 |
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185 邱志偉 吳立華改組決議186 賴榮榮 徐富回改組決議188 陳昌明改組決議190 賴榮榮改組決議191 賴榮榮 徐富回改組決議另外181 楊瓊英 黃建豪策案好 其餘部分提案委員有沒有要在座補充說明好 楊瓊英委員 之後李玉琳委員 |
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好 謝謝主席 要先發言我的提案是169案也就是針對於我們林業發展的保護跟林地的管理本來我是提案刪除10%理由是因為趙琳的項目在113年裡頭我們的面積數佔114年 |
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是72.41%所以實際上你沒用那麼多我們又看到管理面積你113年是7885公頃佔114年的也是只有54.38%所以在這樣的一個情況之下我們又看到113年底生產量 |
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生產量的部分是8.44萬立方公尺在114年113跟114我們來做比較它是81.15%所以目標在你原先的這個績效目標裡頭有很大的這個努力空間實際上你也沒有辦法用那麼多但是我們也經過這個討論 |
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11001.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
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那我也願意因為近年碳排的問題我希望你們把方法去簡化把成效能夠可以提升所以由原先的30%我改為凍結5%你把方案拿出來順便資料給本席 |
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那接下來是189案189案一樣是林業發展跟這個野地保育的這個部分我是提案凍結5%那這個原因是為什麼呢因為我們看到114年8月底你的專案巡查還有那個聖鳩的這個你的這個燙刺1236燙刺 |
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11062.137 |
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那你移除了14支跟移除了這個濾錫那是86,474支所以我們看到你的預算去年度你的預算是1.5億左右 |
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1月份到8月份的執行率只有32.63%我覺得很奇怪你編列的1.5億左右的預算照理講你會編列預算你一定有你的目標你要怎麼去做但是我看到你的到8月份是只有32%的這個比例我不知道 |
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9月到12月做一季的時間你有可能用到67%多67%多的預算嗎 不可能絕對不可能所以在這種情況之下我個人認為到底 |
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到底是你執行不了還是你的目標根本不用那麼多還是你的目標有那麼多你的方式是不對的還是你的能力確實是沒有足夠的能力可以去執行之為什麼會這樣的一個成效我想聽聽你的說明 謝謝 |
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好 本席的提案是176案那是針對我們國有林的復育的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11134.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
要來提升我們木材的自給率的問題在113年的話我們的自給率大概是2%那我們的林業跟我們的自然保育署他們訂定說116年要自給率要到5%這目標相當大不曉得你們有什麼精進的做法也請你們提供出一個書面的報告所以目前我先凍結800萬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
11173.617 |
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那另外180案就是針對我們的治山防洪的工程效益跟減災的評估因為夜色湖的潰堤風險的監測我們看到我們整個林業 |
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11174.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
11177.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
所以我們請他提出來做書面報告所以在這邊先凍結1500萬 |
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11192.589 |
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謝謝主席這個我想請教一下我們這個一直不斷的在跟林業署做討論在我們田寮內門在高雄的這些山區有很多這些氣點那你們到底要怎麼樣來做重新的資源盤整 |
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11233.499 |
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這個汽轍是要修正還是要把它撤掉如果撤掉要做什麼樣的處理因為這個汽轍現在對我們來說是一個很困擾的環境風災如果好如果好 高燈電算 大家都停電所以這個部分我已經問很多次也問很久了那到底林務署有什麼樣的 |
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11234.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
11253.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
比較精進的規劃那這些砍下來的自主是不是能夠去破碎比如說去做土壤土質的改良或者是去把它生成做成SRF做成生質燃料棒你們有沒有相關的這一些規劃精進措施我目前在這裡都看不到可不可以請簡岳說 |
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好我這邊的案就稍微快速說明171案來講的話當然跟你們溝通的話就是有一些的量化數字附加價值這些雖然有限但是你們還是有提供但我覺得那個附加價值可能還不是很好 |
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11273.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
11298.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
那這個新興族產業的發展的計畫那這些族向目標的達成率跟未達的原因或是補救的措施等等那以及這個同類計畫的委辦廠商補助團體地方政府這些等等它是不是有一些結果這個大概我在報告裡頭還就是你們還沒有看到給我所以我才會說這個是凍結三遷 |
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那177案這邊的話是公司有聯機的業務發展這裡那主要這邊也是有提供一些比較具體的一些生產的成果那我是覺得這像171或跟177剛好我們兩個招委都有提案表示我們對這個計畫這個執行的效果是可能有點疑慮那179案這邊來講的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
這個經過跟你們溝通的話因為我覺得就是說這個有點土災災害防治所以我在179案我會改為主決議這樣子然後182案的話國有零大規模防災的攤災的一個處理所以這個基本上跟你們溝通之後我也把它改成是主決議再來的話是184案 |
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184案的話主要它這個是林業發展的這一個森林油氣的發展跟推動這裡那主要這邊的話雖然用在自然步道山屋橋樑的一個安全的改善但是可能在這種邊坡整治樑橋的一個補強等等這邊我覺得就是安全的措施這當然都很重要同時我覺得也是要跟這個當地政府還有這個觀光署你們要去合作 |
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11388.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
11410.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
那我們投入這麼多錢然後整個阿里山對不對整個這樣子的一個風景區的這些的油氣的場所是不是有達到我們投入錢然後產生這一個觀光效益商業價值的效果所以我這邊那時候是有凍結那我是可以凍結少一點我凍結一千萬我改成凍結一千萬 |
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11411.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
11431.938 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
然後呢187案這一邊來講的話呢主要是在棲地跟這個野生地的一個保護那這邊來講我是覺得也是一樣就是這個預算的這個KPI等等產出成果我比較在你們的說明比較沒有看到所以我才說這個凍結這個3000萬這樣子 |
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11436.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
11455.195 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
然後的話在192案這一邊的話就是你們的回覆資料就國土生態綠網這個實在是有點空洞我看完你們的書面報告我還是不曉得你們在幹什麼東西所以我這邊還是維持凍結5000然後193案的話國家遙測飛機的更新那經過溝通之後這個我改組決議 |
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11464.338 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
11480.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
黃毓祥委員的部分是182案跟193案改成組決議好 針對各位委員的詢問 請農業部陳部長綜合回答請林保署 署長我先更正一下 182 193還有一個是179179改組決議182 179來 請署長 |
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11492.048 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
11504.347 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
好 謝謝委員 謝謝趙薇那針對剛剛委員關心的部分我大概綜合的來做一個說明那有關這個勝利永續 |
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| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
11524.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
經營跟那個產業振興的部分那這個部分我們主要就是以增加森林的面積為主軸還有就是加強森林經營還有提升國產材的利用這個部分那我們的目標是在這個117年這個木材自給率達到5% |
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11526.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
這是第一個說明 第二個就是說我們到去年底為止 森林增加的面積有增加到6015公頃那達成率有達到91% 完成森林及竹林碳會經營的管理的部分面積有8460公頃 |
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| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
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那再來就是國產材生產量也達到97,450立方公尺那自給力也達到了預定的目標2.32%那再來就是說有關這個 |
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田鳥這邊的那個刺竹的部分那因為田鳥這裡它是屬於那個泥岩的地質所以它的那個植生的部分不是說所有的樹木都可以來栽種跟這個生長所以這個部分我們也會逐步的逐年的來選擇適當的這個樹種來做相關的竹林更新 |
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再來就是為了防止森林火災我們也會來開闢適當的 |
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就是用那個防火樹種來駕以區隔那另外就是說我們對於那個竹林更新下來的這個赤竹的這個部分那有一些可以把它磨成竹粉那有的可以磨成竹粉還可以就是把它做成一些譬如說餐盤餐具或者是甚至我們的那個牙線棒之類的這種產品可以做很多的那個 |
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這個產品那這些產品它是那個是有機的可以取代那個塑料那再來就是說這個它也可以作為那個生脂燃料作為燃燒來使用那另外就是有關這個謝謝剛剛洪委員有幾案已經改成組決議那不過對於這個楊瓊玉委員關心的部分就是 |
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除了我剛剛有說明的就是我們森林增加的面積已經有達到我們原定的目標那還有經營管理就是竹林碳會經營的部分有8千多公頃這個部分都達成基金的目標那因為這個預算呢它是總的就是除了這個 |
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森林經營之外 還有這個森林保護跟林地管理的部分 所以這個部分也請委員能夠給我們就是 結你免令因為各位委員的建議 主席重新 |
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宣布今天中午不休息一直到農業部及所屬單位預算處理完整之後我們再進行休息好我們綜合以上這個所有的提案均沒有這個檢定案都是凍結案主席這邊建議是不是第四項營業發展部分我們凍結八千萬凍結八千萬凍結八千萬 邱委員 |
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主席我尊重您的才事啦我只是要提醒一件事情就剛剛林務署的回答你多年來都是這樣回答我啦我要知道就是說你要做那個次足的改善你要做生殖燃料棒你要把它做成其他的材料你要做林業的重新規劃種植防火林什麼是準備開始做你的規劃期程是 |
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幾年內要完成?第一年要做到什麼程度?第二年要做到什麼程度?你不要每一年都回答我同樣的答案啦我要講的是這個啦我做了這麼多年的立委在經濟委員會這麼多年每一年問你們你們給我的回答都是這樣我們未來要怎樣怎樣?你的未來是什麼時候?你要從哪一年開始做?我要聽到的是這個啦 |
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我尊重主席所說的就整個目凍結8000萬那169跟189就改為那個組決議 |
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但是我的189那個署長還是沒有針對我的問題去做因為你1月到8月你的執行率是只有32.63%我還是希望你把方法給本席你的這個執行率只有32%多那你要怎麼樣去執行我給你預算你執行不了我還是要聽到你的方法 |
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好不好好謝謝169跟189楊委員提案就均改組決議好那剛剛楊委員垂行事項請署長最快時間再跟楊委員做一個詳細的說明是我們來跟委員報告好謝謝我們再處理組決議來組議可以了來194案遵照辦理3案通過195案遵照辦理3案通過196案建議修正文字請說 |
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建議修正文字倒數第三行2027改成2028好 按照修正文字通過197案修正文字請說修正文字第第四行專案報告改成書面報告好 按照修正文字通過198案誒 不誒 不陳昌明啊 |
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現在3萬5千嗎來198案 遵照辦理 遵照通過192案遵照辦理 遵照通過200案修正文字 請說修正文字的部分倒數第三行請農業部林業署積極辦理騰芝聯外道路之修復工程逗點1預定時程辦理騰芝國家森林遊樂區開源作業 句號 |
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好這個賴委員簽名按照修正文件通過201案遵照辦理 通過好我們繼續處理農業部農業發展及水土保守署 |
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先處理第二幕一般行政202案的部分 楊委員您跟黃建豪委員提案是不是測案好 我們處理第三幕 水土保持發展原理的96億5550萬那其中是從203案到217案都是第三幕水土保持的發展的提案其中203案陳亭飛205案陳亭飛 |
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以及208案邱志偉武力華以及210案邱志偉武力華以及215案賴岳榮徐富奎以及216案賴岳榮提案軍改組決議其中211案楊全英黃電豪委員提案測案其餘有沒有委員提案委員要做補充說明 楊全英委員 |
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好 謝謝主席 楊卓文發言206案 我的提案我真的要勉勵 當然我也知道大家很辛苦我原本是提案凍結5%在整個水土保持的發展整體性的置身防洪因為縣市管河川及區域排的這個部分我們每一年都跟你們說你沒搞沒搞 |
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但是我們又看到你整個在治理工程的規劃 生態檢核規劃尤其在防老工程的這個直升 直升富裕 這個很重要直升富裕的情況 你們沒有達到你們的預期 |
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到底是預算給的太多你沒有辦法達到還是因為真的氣候問題因為我們有意識到預算是要再多那所以你們提出的我們全力的支持甚至我們每一個委員都認為還沒搞可是這樣的一個情況背景你的執行率是沒有辦法達到你的預期 為什麼 |
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李玉琳委員 |
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我的提案是213案我們要做一個水土保護的這個減災土砂的防範的這個問題我們看到最近這個崩塌的情形跟我們的設定影響的範圍跟餘量的警戒本來我們根據是全台灣是有315處但是我們只有79處是完成這影響評估的 |
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那最近這幾年來也有重大的那個災害發生的109年就有三件了到114年就已經有46件這顯示出我們的土石崩塌的情形都有上升的情形不曉得我們水利保值的發展你們怎麼去推動這個防災的這個整個措施所以要有精進的一個報告在這邊我凍結了4千萬好 那個侯議長委員 |
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因為這個 |
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我的案件是20921427稍微說明一下整個就是我們認為這個水土保持的發展在防治山防災裡頭這裡頭應該是非常重要的東西可是我們常常看到就是說整個有時候我們還是在這一個山林的這種防洪防災的計畫還是會產生像不管我們在淹大水或者是花蓮的這個淹射壺這樣子的一個馬太安的淹射壺這種狀況 |
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所以我想說我們投入那麼多錢而且我們這邊我針對的都是你們的業務費委辦費但我知道你們人力也不足或什麼等等所以整個在這個委辦的一個工作是不是有真的落實到我們當初所設定的效果這個是我一直存疑因為我從外界還沒進入法案來看就是每年都到這麼多錢 |
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然後對不對我們還有前瞻的這個8800億裡頭也不少錢可是錢多下去之後每次到山寨房又還是一樣嘛可能農業部也會告訴我說這都是天後啊什麼會有會沒有但是總是我們那麼多錢的所以剛剛楊全偉說錢不夠我是說如果錢是這麼多是不是 |
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執行的這個問題因為我覺得政府都是執行效率的問題所以我這邊才會是說我凍結十分之一然後跟214案也是另外在217案這邊的話也是一樣這邊又來了無人載具的產業發展落到這個水土又是然後我也不曉得你們這180萬是要幹嘛 |
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所以我才說這個跨部這個好 這個本席的提案206案 207案以及這個204案均改成主決議我很認同楊前議員的說法我想不管是農水署在北區分署 中區分署 南區分署 |
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幾乎每個禮拜都跟我們一起在地方現勘所以的確是經費不夠我還是還期許還希望部長未來在農水署的預算能夠更寬裂爭取更多的預算因為這個我們都在區域跟這些農民或者這些農水路這些包括育齡委員包括窮益委員包括義營我們 |
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每個禮拜啊 這些南區 中區 北區這些同仁都很認真的去做這些事項但是呢 碰到最大的問題是經費常常不夠所以這個部分我們當然會支持但是洪委員講的也非常有道理他有些相關的疑惑 不懂或者他不了解的地方 你們有責任做個清楚完整的說明來 請農業部座最後回答 |
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謝謝張偉 謝謝局委員的關心那我先由楊瓊瑩委員所關切的有關縣市河川及排水整體改善這部分有關執行的效益以及那個只剩負益的狀況來做說明 |
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事實上前期第五期的一個目標是達到土砂控制量是150萬立方公尺但是實際執行是有252萬立方公尺事實上達成率有達到166%那剛剛委員所垂詢的是我關於工程的復育的部分因為工程的過程裡面有一些漏漏的區塊可能是要讓它自然復育這部分我們有深切檢討之後 |
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未來這些工程的地方我們會覆蓋草席讓他加速來做呼籲也減少裸露的情形造成土砂的這個沖刷另外有關旅營委員所提到有關我們治山防災的工作 |
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那最主要是針對大崩的部分目前我們在整體我們在監測台灣的所有的崩塌地一共有將近快1萬處其中有需要就是有這個保安對象保全對象的有315處那我們依照它的高中低的風險 |
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那今年的目標是先做從98處去做處理那這個部分也是依照整個計畫來進行我們對於有保全對象的一定會優先來處理然後也做相關的疏散的一個機制所以這一部分會循機制來辦理那這個計畫我們在116也有新的中層計畫通過也會持續來辦理 |
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另外有關洪昭維所關心的三個提案有關我們的委辦費用事實上我們的委辦費用是因為人力的因素所以有很多技術性的有很多資料整合的工作 |
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是需要委辦團隊來做協助那至於我們的政策的決策有關發布警戒有關涉及公權力的部分都有我們來做那我也會深切來檢討這些委辦的一個實際執行的成效繼續來滾動檢討 |
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另外有關於我們的一些治山防災的相關的工作那偏重於這個工程的部分事實上治山防災的工作我們都有跟 |
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大崩的部分是有區隔的所以它並不會有重疊的情形那後續我們會依照整個中程計畫的進度來持續來推動至於剛剛所提的無人機事實上我們在發生災害之後我們有六個分署那他們都會馬上到 |
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有崩塌的地方去了解受損的狀況然後來趕快積極來做治理所以我們有六個分署每個分署有配置三台無人機那個這個的部分都是110年陸續採購的已經老舊了所以我們現在的編的180萬是要逐年更新分三年更新今年是希望 |
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編180萬更新六台逐步來讓整個比較老舊的機型能夠汰換來做相關的治山防災工作也謝謝張偉有關經費的部分我們也是期待說有足夠的經費來辦理相關的治山防災工作但是也是有能力的問題所以需要各個委員來支持我們的經費 謝謝這個立法院是不能做增加預算的決議但是可以建議這個 |
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部長 可能對農水署預算能夠繼續跟行政部 跟行政部爭取更多的這個預算好 主席坐以下見特別謝謝各位委員的支持那也要拜託黃委員這部分是不是第三步水路保持發展我們是不是就凍結三千萬一個月之內提出書面報告之後 使得凍之那邱委員 |
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主席 抱歉 我補充一下這個水路保持的經費我們大家都覺得應該要給足啦但現在有一個問題就是說你們在評估每一項建設的經費的時候其實相對都偏低所以你們常常那個流標率會偏高因為都不太想要來標啦可是做你這個工程是了解的所以我覺得可能也要請水保署你們注意你們在相關的工程 |
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12575.135 |
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12593.485 |
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編列經費的這個概算上面因為現在所有的原物料人工都上漲你也要跟著與時俱進所以你知道你原來的那一種計劃的經費的規劃方式你有可能你每天就不會出現不會出現你的執行率就會有問題所以我覺得這個可能要提醒一下 |
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12594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
12621.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
謝謝邱委員那這個 為邱委員提醒 請農水署注意一下那這個關於這個農水署這個我們就凍結3000萬一個月之內提出書面報告之後 使得凍滯另外剛剛之前通過的林保署預算是凍結8000萬一個月之內提出書面報告之後 使得凍滯 |
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12623.432 |
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12636.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
那我那個206跟212就改為主決議好 楊委員的206跟212改成主決議好 我們繼續處理稅劃署的這個主決議部分218案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
12664.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
召喚通過219案 遵照辦理召喚通過220案 遵照辦理召喚通過221案 遵照辦理召喚通過222案 遵照辦理召喚通過223案 遵照辦理召喚通過 好 謝謝薛保署好 接下來我們繼續處理水事所水事所的部分只有一項主決議224 遵照辦理召喚通過 好 謝謝水事所來 接著農業藥物試驗所 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
12669.181 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
12694.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
其中有第三幕的部分農藥試驗及登記管理220萬是本席改成主決議另外這個226萬主決議部分來不是好 遵照辦理好 照案通過來繼續處理農業部茶及飲料作物改良廠好有227案改成主決議 |
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12717.276 |
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好 接著處理農業部漁業署及所署來 邱營委不好意思那個 趁著部長在我想要稱讚一下你們的茶改所蘇所長這個對於台灣山茶的所有的品種改良跟行銷這個要給我們茶改所一個很大的掌聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
12718.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
12735.062 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
那我覺得可能這個台灣山茶的部分不只是在國內做行銷我覺得很多在國際上面的推廣包括未來我們農業部有任何的機會跟外賓或者是有任何的機會去推廣台灣原生種的山茶 |
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| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
12752.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
這個部分我想我要期待農業部能夠多做一點事情那因為你們茶改所不只是行銷山茶這個東西它的附加價值附加產品也都一併在做開發所以我想藉這個機會要給茶改所支持謝謝要掌聲鼓勵一下嗎 |
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12760.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
第三幕的部分漁業管理原定數59億7825萬6千元從228案一直到245案我們一起處理其中229案賴樂榮230案賴樂榮跟徐富奎231案 |
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12779.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
12790.816 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
這個賴榮跟徐富奎以及234案賴榮跟徐富奎以及241案賴榮跟徐富奎均改成主決議提案委員有沒有要補充說明楊瓊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
12793.429 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
12808.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
謝謝主席 楊卿發言我個人的提案是228案原本我是提案刪除10%有經過討論在漁業管理的這個部分那主要原因是111年到113年執行港口冷凍漁船檢查 |
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| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
12816.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
在210艘到226艘左右我們佔檢查漁船數是介在4.2%到5.7%左右雖然說114年到8月份有略增檢但是有這個鯊魚漁獲操縱的限制 |
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| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
12861.745 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
那鯊魚貨沒有依照規定它的鰭連身或者是綁魚身那魚貨的回報不實所以這個部分必須要好好的去加強所以經過討論 我由原先的刪除10%改為凍結3%那你將方案書面資料請提出來 以上好 李議員 |
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12865.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
12873.549 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
我的提案是232案喔這個就是我們在講的漁電共生的問題喔那因為在發展綠電讓我們的漁業能夠有發展但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
12877.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
12898.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
產生的就是我們的魚沒辦法生存的問題所以我看到農業部是不是打算說要來魚店脫鉤這個部分你們有沒有收集一些成效跟溝通的一個研議的這個階段如果沒有的話我希望你們都要以我們漁民的權益跟漁業的發展為優先所以在這邊我先凍結500萬請你們提出一些經驗報告確定有沒有要魚店脫鉤 |
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12904.376 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
12906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
還有第235案我們沿海的漁業發展從113年到114年我們的產量從17萬公噸一直銳減 |