| IVOD_ID |
17462 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17462 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-25T08:31:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-25T13:08:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:36:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373db28ae05505236aa7bdae56b7a60aa52c601341028818003d487db3f755cf3e825ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關核能安全委員會及所屬單位預算案。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關核能安全委員會主管核子事故緊急應變基金附屬單位預算案。
三、 審查115年度行政法人國家原子能科技研究院預算案。
【進行詢答及處理；預算提案請於5月19日中午12時前提出】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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SPEAKER_23 |
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SPEAKER_23 |
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134.49 |
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139.13 |
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音效 |
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1744.63 |
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1745.63 |
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報告委員會 |
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1746.25 |
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1748.01 |
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出席委員11人 |
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1748.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1749.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
已足法定人數 |
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1749.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1751.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
現在開會 |
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1752.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1754.88 |
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首先進行報告事項 |
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1754.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1758.14 |
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請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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1758.9 |
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1766.66 |
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立法院第11屆第5會期交易及文化委員會第10次全體委員會議事錄時間中華民國1月15日 5月18日上午9時至下午 |
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1767.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1768.62 |
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30 39分 |
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1768.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1772.18 |
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15年5月21日上午9時至12時41分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1772.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1774.5 |
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地點本案前嫌樓101會議室 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1774.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1776.94 |
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出席委員蔡村仇委員13人 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1776.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1779.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
列席委員宗家斌委員等11人 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1779.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1783.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
列席人員5月18日教育部部長鄭英耀等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1783.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1786.38 |
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5月21日中央研究院院長廖俊志等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1786.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1789.58 |
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主席羅武昭吉委員立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1789.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1791.98 |
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5月18日報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1793.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
宣讀上次會議議事錄決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1793.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1795.34 |
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議事錄決定討論事項 |
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1796.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
繼續審查15年度中央政府總預算案 |
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1798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1802.35 |
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有關教育部及手術單位預算案等3案 |
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1802.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1805.27 |
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決議15年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1805.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1807.51 |
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有關教育部及手術單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1807.51 |
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1809.67 |
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審查環境 審查結果如下 |
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1809.67 |
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1812.31 |
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1 稅務部分第二款 |
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1812.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1814.63 |
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罰款及賠償收入第91項 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1814.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1817.87 |
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增列600萬元 改列為2914萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1817.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1821.35 |
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第92項增列25萬元 改列為54萬元 |
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1821.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1824.11 |
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第93項照列94項無列數 |
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1824.11 |
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1825.75 |
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第95項照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1825.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1827.99 |
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第96及97項無列數 |
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1827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1830.55 |
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第3款歸會收入第77項 |
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1830.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1834.59 |
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增列600萬元 改列為9102萬9千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1834.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1837.55 |
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第78項至81項軍照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1840.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
第4款財產收入第101項 |
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1840.23 |
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1844.07 |
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增列88萬元 改列為2476萬元 |
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1844.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1847.19 |
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第102項增列169萬6千元 |
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1847.19 |
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1849.59 |
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改列為455萬8千元 |
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1849.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1852.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
第103項至105項軍照列 |
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1852.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1855.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
第106項增列2萬元 |
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1855.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1856.79 |
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改列為6萬4千元 |
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1856.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1859.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
第107項增列90萬元 |
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1859.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1862.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
改列為371萬5千元 |
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1862.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
第7款其他收入第100項 |
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1864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1866.15 |
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增列23億元 |
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1866.15 |
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1870.15 |
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改列為30億3千3百19萬9千元 |
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1870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
第101項至106項軍照列 |
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1873.52 |
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1876.72 |
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稅出部分第11款教育部主管第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1876.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1878.24 |
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除第2幕第3節 |
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1878.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1879.8 |
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第7幕第1節 |
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1879.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
第10幕第2節 |
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1881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1884.84 |
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軍照列是所屬非營業特種基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1884.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1887.72 |
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審議確定在行條正外取予軍照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1887.72 |
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1891 |
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本項通過決議137項 |
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1891 |
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1891.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
第2項 |
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1892.56 |
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1894.16 |
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除第2幕第2節 |
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1894.16 |
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1895.6 |
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第3幕第1節 |
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1895.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1899.2 |
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軍戰照列是所屬非營業特種基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1901.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
審議確定在行條正外取予軍照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1901.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1904.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
本項通過決議80項 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1904.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1908.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
第3項照列本項通過決議17項 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1908.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1911.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
第4項照列本項通過決議3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1911.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1914.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
第5項照列本項通過決議2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1914.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1917.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
第6項照列本項通過決議1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1917.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1920.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
第7項照列本項通過決議1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1920.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1924.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
第27款直轄市級縣市政府第4項照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1924.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1928.28 |
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2.2015年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管 |
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1928.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1930.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
附屬單位預算案均審查完均 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1930.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1931.92 |
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審查結果如下 |
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1931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1935.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
1.47所國立大學校園校務基金照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1935.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1937.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
國立師範大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1937.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1938.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
彰化師範大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1938.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1941.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
臺北教育大學校務基金均通過決議1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1943.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1945.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
國立臺灣大學成功大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1945.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1948.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
陽明交通大學附設意願作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1948.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
教育部所屬機構作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1952.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
高級中等學校校務基金學產基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
勢力高級中等以上學校退場基金均照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1964.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
3.對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料或為己答覆部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1964.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
請相關機關技術以順便答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1966.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
4.在不影響文藝前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1972.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
授權一事人員1.2015年度中央政府總預算案審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1972.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1974.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
與黨團協商之範例整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1974.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1978.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
5.2015年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部及 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1978.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1980.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
所屬單位預算直轄市級縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1980.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1984.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
一般性補助款教育部主管部分預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1984.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
教育部主管附屬單位預算案全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
通過臨時提案一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
5.25討論事項審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1996.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
15年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1996.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
單位預算案等兩案決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2000.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
1.報告及巡邏完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2000.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
2.15年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
單位預算案審查完畢 |
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2005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2006.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
審查結果如下 |
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2006.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2009.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
稅主部分第二款罰款及賠償收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2009.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2013.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
第四項照類第四款財產收入第五項增類 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2013.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2016.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
100萬元改類為655萬2000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2016.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2018.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
第七款其他收入第五項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
2018.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2021.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
稅出部分第一款總行務主管第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2021.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2023.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
除第五幕第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2023.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
暫照類是所屬非營業特種基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
確定再行調整外期與均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2032.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
本項通過決議93項 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2034.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
1.15年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2037.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2040.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
科學研究基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2040.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2042.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
審查完畢審查結果如下 |
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2043.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2048.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
業務計畫應依據基金來源及用途審查結果隨同調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2048.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2052.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
基金來源基金用途分期短促均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2053.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2054.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
結交公布物類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2054.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2055.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
腐敗預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2055.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2059.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
零933萬7000元照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2060.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2062.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
通過決議13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
對委員執行要求提供相關資料或未及答复部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2069.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
請相關機關建樹與書面答复 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2069.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
5.在不影響文藝前提下 |
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2072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
授權醫事人員依1.15年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2075.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
審查報告與黨團協商自判率整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
6.1.15年度中央政府總預算案有關中央研究院單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2086.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
及中央研究院科學研究基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2086.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2087.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2091.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
由於在場委員未達一絕人數三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2097.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
醫事錄稍後再行確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2098.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2101.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
本次會議議程是審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2101.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2105.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
1.1.15年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2105.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2109.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
有關核能安全委員會及所屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2109.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2115.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
及核子事故緊急應變基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2115.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
2.1.15年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2122.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
國家原子能科技研究院預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2123.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2125.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我們來介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
有陳培宇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2132.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2133.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
接著介紹與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2136.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2141.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
首先介紹核能安全委員會陳明貞主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2144.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2147.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
張鑫副主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2149.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2153.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
行政院主計總書公務預算處 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2153.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2155.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
王淺凱專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2157.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2160.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
其餘列席的機關代表請參閱名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2160.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2164.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
不在主一介紹並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2164.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2166.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
現在進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2167.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2171.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
邀請核能安全委員會陳明貞主委報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2171.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2173.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
時間是6分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2186.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2187.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2189.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
各位委員女士先生大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2189.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2191.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
今天很榮幸代表核能安全委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2191.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2193.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
並接同各單位主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2193.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
向大院進行1.15年度預算報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
首先向大院委員對本會各項工作的支持及指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2204.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
致向敬意及謝誠 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2204.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
核能安全委員會持續提升國內原子能安全管制及科技發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2212.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
並進行強化原子能安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2212.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2214.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
確保公共安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2214.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2216.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
妥善運用原子能技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2216.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2217.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
增進社會服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2217.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2219.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
發展次世代能源技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2219.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
落實近年永續三大實質目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2223.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2224.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2224.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2227.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
報告公務預算執行及編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2228.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
核安會已經妥善運用114年預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2236.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
完成核油廠部分設施備拆除作業審查及現場查證 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2236.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2241.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
核博核油廠室外干涉主存設備運轉執照 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2241.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2245.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
辦理日本寒川廢水排放跨部會應用作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2245.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2248.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
醫療部屏保 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2248.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
原子能及科技合作研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
科普推廣及新世代核能技術研究等重要成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2256.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2262.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
核安會及所屬115年度稅出編列4216286萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2262.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2263.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2263.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2268.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
其中補助行政法人國家原子能科技研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2268.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2271.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
31984萬2000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2271.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2275.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
重點工作包含確保核能及放射性物料安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2275.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2277.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
強化服務安管制能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2277.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
精進福災緊急應變準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2282.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
深化國際交流合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2282.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2285.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
創新原子能科技應用及跨域整合等 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2287.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
所屬偵測中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2287.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
重點工作包括執行全國環境福社監測作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2294.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
強化遙射技術及智慧監測能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2294.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2298.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
並進行環境福社檢測分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2299.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2301.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2302.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
稅入部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2302.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2306.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
115年度編列1152萬2000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2306.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
較前一年度減少3999萬9000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2313.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
執照系減少核一二廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2313.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2316.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
運過核子燃料幹事主存設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2316.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2318.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
興建執照申請案 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2318.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
審查費及核子反應器設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
核子燃料及運轉檢查收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2324.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
稅出部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2327.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
115年度編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2327.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2331.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
426286萬5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2331.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2337.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
較2014年度增加46480萬2000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2337.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
主要系增列捐助行政法人營醫院發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2345.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
包括國家藥物韌性整備計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2345.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2346.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
小型模組化 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2346.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2348.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
SMR反應器研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2348.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2351.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
鑽鈴排放計畫等4.37億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2351.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
及檢驗70mEV |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
回旋加速起建置計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
老舊設施台灣費等經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2361.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2365.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
以稅出計畫別來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2365.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2369.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
人事及基本維持45% |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2369.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2372.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
相較2014年度減少0.19億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2372.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2375.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
社花計畫增加3.19億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2375.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2379.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
主要是新增國家藥物韌性整備計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2379.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2385.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
而科技及工建計畫支出增加1.63億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2385.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
主要增加SMR研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2390.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
鑽鈴排放計畫等 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2390.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2391 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
CJ |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2391.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2393.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
包括原子事故緊急應變基因心 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2393.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2395.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
2014年度成果之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2395.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2396.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
2015年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2398.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
2014年度完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2402.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
河安31號演技 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2402.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
納入無人機入侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2405.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2407.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
入侵遷就因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2407.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2410.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
除役電廠及用過燃料池 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2410.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2412.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
世界儲應儲 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2412.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2416.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
古早情境及防災設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2416.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2420.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
自助互助儲應作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2420.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2423.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
並演練陸海公寓 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2424.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2426.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
環境偵測作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2426.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2428.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
計約4500人參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2430.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2433.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
另外一半也主理書生演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2433.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2439.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
防災研究會新北市核電廠緊急應變區計畫加防 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2439.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2445.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
並製作河安防護掠地及有生板核子事故應變指南等多元溝通宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2446.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2453.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
2015年度核子事故緊急應變基金預算來源主要為緊急應變準備收入及利息收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2453.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
共計1億2475萬5千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
較去年因資集增加283萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2464.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
基金用途部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2470.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
2015年度為9794萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2470.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2472.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
較去年減低63萬4000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2472.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2475.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
主要是減少中央災害應變計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2475.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2478.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
國內旅費資源計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2478.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2480.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
購置車輛消除站 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2480.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2483.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
新市消除水面等經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2484.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2490.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
並增加核子事故應變階段服務設數據圖像化整合系統維護等經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2490.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2492.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
而以計畫比例來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2492.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2495.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
中央災害應變佔45% |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2495.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2500.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
其他是地方災害應變及服務設計各佔30%及15% |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2500.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2504.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
其餘為行政管理支援計有共10% |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2504.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2509.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
最後在行政法人國家原則科技研究院收支畢業編列行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2510.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
國家原則科技研究院為 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
核安會監督制行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
重點工作包括核能與核能科技服飾應用及科技及新能源技術發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2523.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2528.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
科技研究重點包括進行SMR研究開發全球首任 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2532.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
多類客家有效評估乾功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2532.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
進行核電廠被動式安全機制研究與能源基礎設備安全技術發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2538.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2544.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
生物科技服飾應用及參與衛福部及國家藥物認證準備計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2544.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
並設置70MV中型核電加速器進行海域生物測試及放射性物質傳輸安全評估研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2557.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
與跨部會合作進行多項與經營排放相關計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2557.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2560.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
在2015年度收入也直輸部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2560.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2563.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
收入編列31億7557萬1000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2563.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
較上年度增列3億3994萬4000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2572.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
主要是增列執行政府補助營業發展收入計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2572.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2576.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
直輸編列31億7394萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2576.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
較上年度增列3億98837萬7000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2583.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
主要是增列業務費及服務成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2583.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2586.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
收支三抵後剩餘1623萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2588.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
核安徽為國內核能輻射與放射性物料安全管制機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2597.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
將秉持專業技術及依法嚴格執行各項管制工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2597.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
確保各項原子能民生應用安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
進行各位委員對核安徽的預算會大於支持與協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2605.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2605.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
好 謝謝陳主委的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
機關代表報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2614.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
相關數面資料請各位參閱並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
由於議事錄之前已經宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
尚未確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2622.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
現在先來確定議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2622.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
請問各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
上次會議議事錄有無錯誤或遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2627.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2628.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2628.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
無錯誤或遺漏議事錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2634.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我們現在開始進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
每位出席委員質詢六分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2643.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
列席委員執行時間為四分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2643.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
均不再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
發言登記截止時間為上午十點三十分 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
委員如有臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2651.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2654.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
請於上午十點三十分前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2654.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2658.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
並於預算審查完畢後再行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2658.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
處理提案時 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2659.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2662.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
若提案委員及連署委員均不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2662.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2664.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
原例不予處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2664.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2669.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
首先請登記第一位柯志恩委員詢答 |
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謝謝 |
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因為那個高鐵訊號異常數 |
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我們有非常多的委員沒有辦法趕上 |
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所以委員可能稍微可能要特別十點半 |
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登記截止可能要稍微寬容一下 |
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因為有很多人跟我反映 |
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他們需要更長的時間 |
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因為現在在台中的還沒發動 好不好 |
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有接到這樣的訊息 |
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所以說那個最後這個截止的時間 |
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可能不是十點半 |
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因為今天正是突發狀況 |
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對 所以不能歸責於委員 |
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是 所以我們會等他們來 |
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OK 好 謝謝 |
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感謝 好 我們是不是請我們的主委 |
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主委好 我很少在一個會期當中 |
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看主委這麼多次 |
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不過今天是我們的這個預算 |
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非看你不可 |
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來 我們來看一下 |
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從你剛所報告的 |
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我們核安會每年都會在核物料管制業務當中 |
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編列的一部預算 對不對 |
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主要是要辦理有關於這個放射性廢棄物的 |
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最周儲存的計劃跟應變 |
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那你目前為止今年是編了2343萬 |
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但是這件事情我也不斷地質詢過會單位 |
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就是呢 我對台電這個做法是非常的消極 |
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然後呢 他們對於所謂的最終儲存 |
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還有其實是中途 |
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其實態度都不是太積極 |
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然後呢 你們一開始是罰錢 |
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後來變成是違規事項 |
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然後再變成更軟的注意改進事項 |
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你根本完全不痛不癢的 |
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那比較讓我困惑的就是 |
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你對它的消極態度沒轍 |
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但是你對這項預算你反而是越編越多 |
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每年越編越多 |
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然後你現在不管說最終儲存 |
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你都沒有進展 |
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而且三座核電廠當中的 |
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中程目標的乾儲存設施 |
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目前的推動有任何的進展嗎 |
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主委 |
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我們很會對這個 |
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各項計畫都會持續的 |
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沒有啊 你的態度都非常消極 |
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預算越編越多 |
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我先告訴你 你看 |
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我們這樣核用過的燃料棒 |
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目前只能是先放在爐心燃料池 |
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但是燃料池已經滿了 |
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但是你看看 核二項目前有規劃重啟 |
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勢必你必須要把這個核燃料棒把它移出 |
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所以室外乾儲跟室內都非常的重要 |
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所以說呢 到底預計什麼時候可以完工 |
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什麼時候可以取得這個運轉的執照 |
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而且我還是一次問 |
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不只室外的鋼純室內的乾儲也有必要性 |
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那三座核電廠目前來說室內乾儲進行招標 |
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然後呢 台電告訴大家是2028 2029 2032完成 |
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但不好意思 我們來看一下 |
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核一已經留標兩次 |
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去年核一核二聯合招標又留標三次 |
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然後呢 又延宕了四年 |
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核三本來是去年要絕標 |
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今年也已經絕標 也要今年 |
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所以到底這個乾儲組成設施都往後拖延 |
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那請問核安會你的監督的機制到底在哪裡 |
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我們前會給啊 但是你一定要有作為啊 |
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跟委員說明一下 |
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那目前核一的乾儲儲存我們已經核發運轉執照 |
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所以它正在運轉 |
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核二核三的 |
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核二部分我們在三月份已經同意它試運轉 |
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那試運轉完以後 |
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它預算試運轉結果 |
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它就會來跟我們申請運轉執照 |
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那我們的審查時間大概需要三個月 |
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三個月後 |
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三個月後 目前為止是五月 |
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所以我們期望在新的會期九月的時候可以看到 |
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它目前還在做試運轉 |
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因為我們要給預算嘛 |
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我當然要拿出你們的這個績效出來嘛 |
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一直不斷的留標 |
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而且更不要講下面一個 |
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跟你們意外的部分 |
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這個室內的儲存 這個儲存的招標 |
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疑似某一些的壓力 |
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然後呢決定要給日系的NAC團隊 |
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有這件事嗎 |
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跟委員說明NAC是美國公司 |
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核二廠的干事處 |
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室外干處就是NAC公司得標 |
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是 |
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正在試運轉的 |
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那為什麼有特別的報導 |
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這是我們引述媒體的報導 |
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我想因為台電目前沒有做出一個澄清 |
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所以我們有必要在質詢台上來問個清楚 |
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那這樣子的一個干事儲存的這個系統 |
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目前看起來是沒有辦法裝載這個招標當中所有的規範 |
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所以說呢他們認為是違反這個招標的文件的要求 |
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那你們核安會目前掌握的狀況是如何 |
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2935.36 |
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而且我也知道 |
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2936.36 |
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2939.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
最後還是要通過核安會的這個最後的審查 |
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2939.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2941.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
但是我們不希望全部都完成之後 |
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2941.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2943.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
然後呢核安會說告訴我這不符合規定 |
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2943.36 |
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2945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
我們不需要發生這樣的狀況 |
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2945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
所以現在就要預警來告知 |
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2947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
你們這個時候有辦法預先了解整個招標過程 |
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2950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2952.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
然後這個廠商是不是符合規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2952.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2954.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
有辦法做到這一點嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2954.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2957.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
可以 跟委員說明NAC公司的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2957.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
經過美國核管會的審定 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
在美國有四家電力公司 |
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2964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
你把這些資料給我 |
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2965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
因為就我們的理解裡面 |
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2966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
他所過去承載的這個經歷履歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2974.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
各方面說能夠承載出這樣子一個所謂的干除的這樣的一個標準 |
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2974.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2976.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
目前來說顯然是跟我們的認知有些落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2976.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
所以我要求核安會把你所知道的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2980.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
送一份報告給本席 |
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2980.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
可以 好不好 |
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2981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
這件事非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
我們只希望積極而且在這個核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
有可能在一次的重啟的過程裡面 |
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2987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
我們每一個細節 |
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2988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
我們不希望因為延大或是招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
出現大家有所質疑的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
而讓整個的流程因此而受到很大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
這是我們最終的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
可以把這個目標 |
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2997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
還有它裡面的這個細節全部給本席一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3002.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
還有接下來我還是要問到這個預轉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3002.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3005.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
核電重啟的這個目前為止來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3005.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3007.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
已經送交了再預轉計劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3007.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3008.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
沒錯嗎主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3009.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3012.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
好 那如果是送再運轉的預轉以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3012.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3014.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
你們第二核二的重啟計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3014.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3017.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
跟審查消除的成員跟核三是同一批人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3018.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3019.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
核二和三是同一批人 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3019.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3021.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
審查的人員是一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3022.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3023.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
因為核二還沒提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3023.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
所以我們會另外再規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3026.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
為什麼我要提出來 |
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3026.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3027.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
因為你們現在人力完全不足嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3027.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3028.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
這點你們都必須要承認嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3028.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我們來看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3031.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
你看這裡面這個目前來說的話 |
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3031.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3035.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
未來五年內持有持照的人員寄零退休 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3035.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3036.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
而且很多的運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3036.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3039.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
高級反應器運轉的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3039.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3040.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
年底就只剩下20個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3040.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3042.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
低於標準規範的21 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3042.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3043.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
然後我更要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3043.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3045.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
2026年只剩下17 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3045.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3047.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
而且這家核三的小組成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3047.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3050.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
除了現有的核安會專業人力之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3050.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3052.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
你們外部專家19個人當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3052.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3055.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
外部專家裡面就有7人是核安會籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3055.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3057.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
國務院會員原來的退休人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3057.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3059.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
還包括你們的記證處長等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3059.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3060.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
所以我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3060.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3062.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
長期我們沒有培養核安人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3062.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3066.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
目前為止就面臨著我們中間人力很大的不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3066.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3069.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
那你們有任何的問題我們再往下面去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3069.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3071.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
你們的技術人員還有包括你們研究人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3071.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
跟你們的預算跟實際的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3074.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
都有很大的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3074.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
永遠不足而且越來越嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3080.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
你看然後國研院情況更加嚴峻 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3080.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3082.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
113年改進之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3082.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
技術人員缺氧達到77人 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3088.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
往後幾乎每年都有50人沒有補滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3088.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
所以到我們今年4月底的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3092.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
有49人補滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3092.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
這就是我們長期我一直不斷的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
過去我們有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3100.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
包括主委還有在場非常多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3100.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3101.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3101.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3103.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
都是我們合工非常優秀的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3103.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3104.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
長期因為這樣的delay |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3104.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3105.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
即使你再重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3105.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3106.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
我們的人力還是不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3106.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3108.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
目前這樣所看到的就是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3108.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3109.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3109.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3112.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
完全沒有前瞻戲來規劃我們和安的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3112.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3113.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
這個問題怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3113.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3115.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我們願意給大家錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3115.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3116.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
可是你每次都補不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3116.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3117.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
這怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3119.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3120.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
這是個事實吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3122.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
這個斷財斷成了這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3125.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
我們就不但用資深 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3125.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3126.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
資深沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3126.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3128.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
但是新進的人員在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3128.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
報告委員我們經過七四 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
從113年經過七四的召集 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3136.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
我們人員穩定維持在900個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3136.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
那問您是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
難道我的資料是錯誤的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3142.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
因為這個有些是原來專資人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3142.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
我們原來有200 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
你把所有的人力 |
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3144.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
因為這個時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3146.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
把所有的人力你真實的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3148.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
你如果覺得這個資料是有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3150.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
但是人力不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
這是個事實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3152.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
完全補不完這是個事實吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
現在我們還透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
國際貸易 |
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3156.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3157.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
我們沒有不足嗎 |
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3158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
現在有沒有不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3158.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3161.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
我們今年還是持續要補足五六十位 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3161.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3162.48 |
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3164.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
已經達到你剛出剛我們預算的 |
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3164.48 |
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| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
預算的原額了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3167.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
還差六十位 |
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3167.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3168.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我們現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3168.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3170.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
我們每一年都給你錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
可是每次都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
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3173.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
所以這個問題我們要好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3173.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3174.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
我只是告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3174.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3175.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
和工的人才非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3175.48 |
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3177.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
但是長期過去十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3177.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3179.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
十五年造成這樣的一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3179.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
你現在要找到這個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
而且說實在的資深的人都退不掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3185.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
心驚的人因為你還要再加上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3185.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3187.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
這個所謂的給他再續練的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3187.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3189.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
這是我們人力最大的匱乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3189.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3191.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
這是我們今天最大的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3191.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
不是只有核料棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
不是只有燃料棒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3196.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
人力也是一個很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
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3198.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我們等一下在審預算的時候就好好 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
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3200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
給本席一個真實 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3202.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
你們真的覺得人力上的缺乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3202.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3203.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
裡面最重要的一個因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3203.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3204.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3204.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
讓我補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3208.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
我們對於人力補充方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3208.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3210.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
我們荷蘭會以及國研院 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3210.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
我們請清華大學來給我們開 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3215.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
碩士的學分班 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3215.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3218.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
現在有四十幾個人在進修這個學位 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3218.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
這是我們補充人力的一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
我們也鼓勵清華大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3224.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
多收一些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3224.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
也要爭取很多研究經費等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3228.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們盡量努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3228.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3230.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
去年就開始碩士班 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3230.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3232.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
然後來補足這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3232.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
這就是我們現在培養人才的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3237.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
培養人才的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3237.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
非常的太短視了 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3241.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
但是總比沒有好 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3241.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3242.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
我還是要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3242.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3244.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
這是長期對於人力培養 |
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3244.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3245.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
完全沒有前瞻 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3245.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3247.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
完全缺乏的一個最重要的表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3247.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
現在我們也要努力來 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3251.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
堅持這方面的控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3251.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3253.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3253.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
謝謝柯志恩委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3261.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
接下來有請陳培瑜委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3265.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3266.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3266.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3268.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
有請和安會主委 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3268.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3270.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
請和安會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3276.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3277.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
好 主委你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3277.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3278.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3278.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3280.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
上一次在這裡對話的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3280.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3282.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
其實我也是問關於這個說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3282.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3284.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
但是當時在問的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3284.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3285.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
說明會還沒有舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3285.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3287.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
那我們現在看到4月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3287.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3289.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
和安會已經在屏東縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3289.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3291.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
恆春鎮公所辦的這個說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3291.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3293.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
當時在辦這個說明會之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3293.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3295.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
我其實給了和安會幾個建議跟提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3295.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3297.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
拜託和安會一定要積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3297.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3299.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
跟地方的居民溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3299.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3301.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
我們來看一下這個說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3301.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3303.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
現在現場反映出一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3303.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
我不確定主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
我確定主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
你有沒有掌握到現場相親的一些反應呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3309.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
現場說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3309.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
在說明會的前12天左右才收到公文 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
而在地的很多居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
不是這個公文的收受對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
甚至呢大家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
你只有跟這個相公所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
跟鎮公所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3325.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
其實一般關心這些議題的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3325.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
不見得會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
那我知道和安會你們會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
有啊 我們有上網公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
上一次我就已經提醒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3333.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
這個數位落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3333.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3335.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
絕對是一個很大的溝通障礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3335.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
我們必須要透過更多一般居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
所熟悉的溝通系統的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
想盡辦法讓他們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
但很可惜我們在活動當天 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
甚至在後續的新聞報導上 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3349.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
其實有非常多的地方居民表示不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3349.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3351.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
表示沒有被積極告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3351.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
怎麼說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3353.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
還有一個事情是這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3353.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3355.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
他們說甚至呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3355.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3357.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
有一個居民他就願意具體的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3357.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3358.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
他叫什麼名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3358.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
他說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3362.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
甚至在和安會的重啟案的委員會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3362.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3364.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
有64個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3364.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
可是在64個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
居然沒有一個是當地的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3369.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
或者是公民團體代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3369.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3371.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
也就是相關的公民團體也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3371.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
在地的居民居然連參與的機會都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
而他們認為在這樣的重啟程序下 |
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3378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
所辦的地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
會不會流於形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3383.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
只是和安會辦完就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3383.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
那甚至會說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3386.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
第二個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3386.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3389.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
我知道和安會你們有在會議之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3389.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3394.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
邀請大家提出對相關事情的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3394.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
收集了意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
可是這些意見跟問題的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
也沒有在當天的說明會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3403.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
給予回覆或者是統一說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3403.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3405.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
那後續我們要怎麼看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3405.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3407.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
你們針對這些網路上提供出來的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3407.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3410.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
或者是問題給予一些說明跟回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3410.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3412.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
目前大家還是抱持著疑惑 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3412.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3414.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
光是這樣就兩件事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3414.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3415.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
還有再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3415.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
如果相關的重啟程序的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3420.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
和安會在預算說明的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3420.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
有來我們辦公室說 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3424.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
你們跟我們說總共會有四場 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3424.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
我來確定一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3427.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
一個是再運轉這個會議會有一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3427.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3429.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
後續快要審查完會再有一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3429.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3432.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
然後呢相關的自主安全會再有一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3432.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3434.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
然後自主安全快審完會有一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3434.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3436.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
總共只有四場 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3436.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3438.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
但是如果第一場辦完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3438.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3440.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
地方給予的回饋是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3440.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3442.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
是不是可以請和安會說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3442.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3444.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
你們後續會再如何調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3444.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3447.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
一如何更加積極的跟地方的鄉親溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3447.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3450.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
在會議之前要確保所有關心的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3450.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3452.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
都能夠收到訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3452.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3454.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
他要不要去是他的事情時間如何安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3454.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3456.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
第二個我之前就提醒過你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3456.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3459.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
如果我們辦的會議時間是上班時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3459.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3462.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
對於很多當地人來說其實非常非常的不友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3462.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3466.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
到底我們還可以用哪些管道跟方法讓更多人參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3466.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3469.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
再來這個重啟案裡面的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3469.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3471.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
如何有鄉親或者是公民團體的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3471.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3474.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
還有後續的機制如何更加公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3474.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3476.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
除了這四場之外你們還有沒有什麼規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3476.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3479.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
可不可以請主委或是相關幕僚做一下說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3480.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3486.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
跟委員說明有關於4月28號所辦理的地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3486.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3490.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
那我們已經有收集到民眾所關心的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3490.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3493.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
那我們經過彙整之後也會請相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3493.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3496.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
包括會裡面的各個相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3496.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3499.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
以及外部的單位來提供回應說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3499.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3505.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
經過彙整之後我們會把這些議題跟答覆公布在會裡面的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3505.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3513.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
另外有關於其他民眾沒有收到相關訊息或關心民眾的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3513.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3516.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
這部分我們會收集這次的相關資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3516.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3519.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
然後在下一次辦地方說明會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3519.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3526.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
我們再主動發函邀請他們來出席下一次的地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3527.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
至於地方說明會辦的這四場 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3537.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
我們會逐一去檢視看有沒有需要經濟的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3537.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
事實上占運轉計畫事實上涉及到店長整個的專業部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3548.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
確實要讓民眾第一時間很快速了解確實可能比較辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3548.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3550.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
或者有它的難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3550.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
那我們也會思考看看有沒有可以經濟的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3554.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3555.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3559.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
我聽懂你的說明了可是我覺得剛剛您的說法有些危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3559.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3563.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
身為民意代表我要說確實核安有非常高度的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3563.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3565.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
我們當然尊重所有的專家學者 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3565.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3570.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
可是不要忘了這些地方鄉親居民的聲音也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3570.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3572.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
他們所有的擔心他們所有的疑惑 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3572.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3576.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
如果可以透過適當的說明跟轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3576.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3579.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
我認為是可以促進更好的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3579.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
而轉譯這件事情如果不在你們的政策思維裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3586.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
如果高度抱持著某一種程度的專家的傲慢進到現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3586.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3589.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
我認為只會造成更大的衝突跟對立 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3589.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3591.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
所以我認為在這個前提底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3591.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3595.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
如何讓這個說明會不管是次數變得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3595.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3597.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
然後轉譯的工作做得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3597.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3601.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
甚至在事前收集意見的動作做得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3601.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3606.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
我認為剛剛您的回答其實都還有再更多可以經濟的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3606.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3608.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
我不知道你怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3614.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
是 那就我們後續會來整體來思維看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3614.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
有沒有可以精進的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3620.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
那至於說明會的主題各方面我們也會再想看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3620.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3624.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
用牽弦易懂的方式讓民眾可以在第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3624.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3629.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
可以了解說整個管制跟台電公司的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3629.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3630.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
那以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3631.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3634.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
好 但是因為今天時間有限我尊重主席時間的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3634.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3638.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
但我會說轉譯這件事情事前收集的這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3638.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
還有在當場溝通的誠意跟程序也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3644.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
因為說明會真的不能只是流於形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3644.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3647.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
對於和安會也好對台電公司也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3647.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3652.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
大家都希望可以把第一線的現場的聲音帶回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3652.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
然後專家學者做出轉譯跟做出回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3658.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
我認為這才是後續如果真的要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3658.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3660.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
我說的是如果真的要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3660.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3665.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
我們必須要在這個階段把很多跟民意溝通的工作做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3665.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3668.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
而不要真的假設到了重啟的那一刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3668.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
我們還要面對更大的社會衝突跟社會意見的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
好不好 拜託你們 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3675.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3675.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3677.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
謝謝陳培鈺委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3677.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3679.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
也請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3680.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3684.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
下一位我們有請葛如君委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3696.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3697.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3698.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3700.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
有請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3700.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3701.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
有請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3709.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
陳主委好 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3710.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3712.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
我想賴清德總統已經說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3712.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
因為AI的發展他感謝立法院通過AI基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3716.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3720.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
然後要思考核電的重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3720.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3722.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
基本上也是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3722.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
那我們台北市的市長候選人沈柏楊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
也一直擔心台北市或者其他的地方電不夠用 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
賴總統一直提到的新式核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3734.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
本席過去一直跟您提到SMR MMR的中長程的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
那當時預計四年花費10億 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我一直喊說不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
為什麼 因為你說要花台北一棟豪宅的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
來做全中華民國未來十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
甚至二十年五十年的人員的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
這太荒謬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3758.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
但是據本席了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3762.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
現在這個四年十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3762.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3764.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
竟然還被國科會打槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3764.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3766.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
砍到剩下4.8億 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3766.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
一年只剩1.2億 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3770.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
這個逃租引員 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3771.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3774.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
這個一個廁所可能都還不夠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3774.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3776.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
這個請問這是確定的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3778.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3780.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3782.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3785.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
才接到國科會最近的會議記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3785.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3789.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
前兩個禮拜主委帶隊到跟吳政委報告完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3789.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3794.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
他同意我們今年總預算四年維持10億 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3794.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3796.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
但是今年 今年只有1.2億 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3796.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3799.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
還是第一年還是照原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3799.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3802.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
就是4.8億除以4 1.2億 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3802.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3804.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
其他不足的後面三年再補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3804.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3807.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
謝謝主委長期對這個議題的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3807.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
那我想國科會在會議記錄已正式有回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3816.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
我們重送申請計畫書這兩天會送到國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3816.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3818.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
等核定以後大概就確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3818.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
恢復到10億的預算 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
我想沒有能源安全就沒有國家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
那沒有能源也不會有半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
不會有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
我想這個國科會主委應該是非常了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
我們當然也是先感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我們國科會無主委沒有砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
但是當然第一年還是維持1.2億 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
這一點我們當然還是有點意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
為什麼 因為時間真的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
你說一年沒有辦法增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
那一年合工的人才可能就沒有辦法增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
我們新式核能的研發又再延宕一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
這一年對於AI來講的發展可能是一整個世紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
那我想賴清德總統一邊說新式核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3862.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
結果國科會對新式核能沒有更加倍的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3862.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3863.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
不是說第一年兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3863.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3865.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
那這一點我覺得還是有點可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3865.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3868.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
那總而言之這個計畫我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3868.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3871.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
核安會 國科會 我們更多的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3871.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3872.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
一起來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3872.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3875.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
畢竟人員真的是我們的基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3875.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3877.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我們也希望核工的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3877.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3880.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
我們相關的研發跟應用可以更快的加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3880.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3884.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
以確保我們在AI在產業上面的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3884.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3886.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
那另外上週有傳出 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3886.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3889.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
核三的甘楚廠招標爭議的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3889.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3890.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
主委應該知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3890.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3892.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
剛剛也有委員有問到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3892.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
那我想這個請問主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3896.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
台電在招標的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3896.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3899.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
是誰來確保這些申請廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3899.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3901.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
有沒有符合核安會的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3903.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3906.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
是不是就是台電自己找嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3906.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
是需要一些合乎標準的 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3910.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
這個細節有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3910.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3912.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
這標準是你們提供的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3912.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
那但是誰在執行這些標準的查核 誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3917.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3920.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
那對於監事處這邊我們定有安全導責 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3920.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
安全審查導責 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3921.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
那這一部分他相關的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3925.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3926.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
一定導責誰來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3926.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3929.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
誰來確保申請的廠商符合標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3929.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3931.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
台電公司在招標規範的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3931.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3935.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
就會將我們的安全導責的要求納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3935.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3936.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
對嘛 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3936.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3937.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3937.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3938.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
對台電來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3940.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
他好好的招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
他確保安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3946.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
這當然是他的道德所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
但是這是他的利益所在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3949.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3950.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
這是他的利益所在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
台電公司有義務要執行這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3959.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
所以我們就是相信台電公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3959.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
那請問台電公司是國營的還是民營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3963.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3965.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
國營區 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3968.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
那所以我們過去都還記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3968.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
有快篩小吃店 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3971.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
超市進口彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3971.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3973.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
室內裝修炸藥的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3973.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
我們不是在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3977.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
這些公司都怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3977.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3979.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
而是說核能的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3979.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3983.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
事關民眾安全和能源的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3983.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3985.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
那你說台電自行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3986.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
那核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
只有一個導責 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3989.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
那假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3990.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3993.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
未來台電說就給這一家 |
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3993.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3996.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
我們說按照我們的安全的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3996.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3997.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
就給這一家 |
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3997.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3999.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
結果核安會來判斷 |
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3999.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4000.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4000.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4002.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
根據你們的導責 |
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4002.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4003.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
你們有疑慮 |
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4003.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4004.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
是不是就要重新招標 |
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4006.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4007.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
是不是有這個可能 |
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4007.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4008.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
如果你們後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
4008.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
他送過來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4011.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
他自己說根據他的義務 |
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4011.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
4012.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
這你剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
4012.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
4013.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
對不對 |
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4013.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4014.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
根據他的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
4014.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4016.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
結果他的義務執行出來的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4016.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
你們覺得不夠安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
4020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
因為你們一定以安全為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4021.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4021.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4022.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
那假設你們覺得有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4022.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
是不是就要重新招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4024.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4024.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
其實我們導責裡面有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4029.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
他要採用國際已經成熟的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4029.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4031.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
如果他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4031.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4033.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
他沒有符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
4033.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
其實他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
4034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
4035.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
他送案 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
4035.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
4036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
他送件給我們的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
4036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4037.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
他就不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4037.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4038.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4038.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4039.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
會給他打會票 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4039.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4041.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
你們是不是就會說不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4041.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4042.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
我現在就問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4042.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4043.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
他是不是要重新招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4043.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4044.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4044.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4045.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
4045.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4047.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
但是假設他發生這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4047.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4048.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
你們可以罰他錢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4048.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4051.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
你們可以行政懲處他嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4051.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4053.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
我說核安會可不可以處罰他 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4053.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4054.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4054.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4055.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4055.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4057.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
所以你們的導責 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4057.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4058.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
他依據什麼條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4058.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4060.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
一定要遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4060.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4063.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
因為他日後要跟我們申請安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4063.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4065.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
申請建造資料裡面安全文件報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4065.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4066.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
裡面就要附這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4066.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4067.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
所以就兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4067.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4068.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
一個就是義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4068.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4069.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
你剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4069.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4070.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4070.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4071.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
如果沒有符合的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4071.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
送過來你們可能會把他reject |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4073.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4074.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4075.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4077.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
那請問reject以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4077.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
這整件事情是不是就延宕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那您覺得過去台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4083.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
在核電重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4083.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
在核能上 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4085.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4086.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
是支持的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4087.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4088.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4088.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4090.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
其實在甘氏屬這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4090.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4093.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
我們每個月都跟台電開溝通管制會 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4093.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4095.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
所以我們有掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4095.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
台電公司他在招標的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
有符合這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
我想其實我一直在講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
其實就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4105.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
賴清德總統要新式核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4105.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
核電也要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
我們相應的整個生態系 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
都要準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
那這個未來可能會造成人員政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
的轉換的延宕的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
我們都要先預先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4121.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
因為現在核安會的倒責 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
有沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
我就問有沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4127.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4128.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
倒責其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4128.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4130.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
倒責有沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4130.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
是沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4134.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
但是他會轉化成我們安全審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4134.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4135.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4135.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4136.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
那如果他一直不遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4136.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4137.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
你一直給他打回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4137.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4139.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
他又再不遵守你一直打回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4139.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4141.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
我們是不是可以搞100年 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4142.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
台電公司從來沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4145.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4148.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
應該是沒有做過威化我們倒責 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4148.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4149.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
你還好很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4149.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4151.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
你說台電公司應該很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4151.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4152.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
他有義務對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4152.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4153.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
好那我問 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4153.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4155.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
法規上說可以分階段送審 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4155.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4156.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4156.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4158.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
他的自主安檢計畫對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4158.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4160.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
法規上所以分階段送審 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4160.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4162.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
台電不送你們有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4163.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4165.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
台電不送你們有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4165.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4166.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
有沒有辦法根據倒責 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4166.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4168.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
台電如果不送 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4168.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4170.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
分階段送審他一直不送 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4170.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4172.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
你們根據倒責你們有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4172.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4173.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
對他有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4173.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4174.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
有沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4174.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4175.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4175.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4177.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
可是我們會了解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4177.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4178.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
過程中發生什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4178.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4179.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4179.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4181.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
你看即便你們倒責裡面有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4181.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4182.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
其實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4182.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4184.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
只寫了建議兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4184.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4185.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
所以主委我想問嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4185.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4187.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
剛剛他講說義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4187.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4188.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
台電有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4188.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4190.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
台電以前都不會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4190.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4191.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
我對台電沒有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4191.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4194.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
但我們就是要看規則來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4194.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4196.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我們要往最壞的方向做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4196.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4198.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
法律有不完備的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4198.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4199.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
我們要準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4199.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4201.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
不然免得我們不要台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4201.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4202.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4202.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4203.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
哇真的沒電了 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4203.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4204.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4204.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4206.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
民進黨委員也都在喊沒電啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4206.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4208.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
我們也很緊張啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4208.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4209.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
全民都緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4209.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4212.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
所以核三廠的自主安檢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4212.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
理論上有五份 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4215.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
有五份 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4215.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4217.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
這你們只寫建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4217.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
那你們這有五份 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4221.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
那請問有送任何一份來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4221.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4223.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
剛剛說台電又有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4223.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4225.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
而且他又很負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4226.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4229.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
自主安檢計畫有五份 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4229.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4231.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
有送任何一份來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4231.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
可是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4234.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
這五份是法規規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4234.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4236.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
所以一定要送的 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4236.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
那他不送會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4238.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4240.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
不送和安會能不能拿他怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4242.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4244.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
目前確實沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4244.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4246.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
因為他是提交出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4246.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
所以這個部分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
我想大家我們都愛台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4253.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
我們也愛和安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4253.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4255.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
我們也愛我們中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4255.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4257.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
這個部分事關民眾安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4257.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4259.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
和國家能源的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4259.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4260.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
我們剛剛這段對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4260.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4263.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
其實我就是希望請主委回去研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4263.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4267.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
看怎麼樣去提高和安會監督的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4267.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4269.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
不然我們監督你 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4269.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
你們就說我們只有倒折 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4272.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
我們沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4272.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
那這樣我們怎麼監督呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
那我們也沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
就是真的的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
派一個委員坐在台電裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4281.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
也不合理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4281.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4284.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
所以例如訂定相關的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4284.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4286.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
或者不要只是倒折嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4286.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4288.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
或者我們之前提過的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4288.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4290.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
可不可以一個月內給本席一個回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4290.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
可以嗎主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4294.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
這個問題是您的層級了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4294.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4296.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4296.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
然後另外好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4298.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
最後本席再關心一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4298.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4300.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
再運轉的審查計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4300.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4301.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
目前和安會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4301.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4303.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
也感謝你們認真負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4303.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4305.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
也守法提出第一次的審查意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4305.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4308.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
正在台電公司答覆說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4308.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4310.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
那請問主委對台電的答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4310.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4311.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
有沒有相關時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4311.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4312.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
因為我們一直講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4312.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4313.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
那他如果一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4313.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4315.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
你說該送的分階段送 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4315.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4316.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
他不送 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4316.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4317.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
你沒有強制力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4317.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4319.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
已經送進來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4319.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4321.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
如果你回覆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4321.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4323.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
他又不額外的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4323.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4325.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
就是你們的審查意見給他了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4325.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4326.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
他又不回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4326.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
這審查流程是不是就會卡住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4329.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
跟委員說一說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4329.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4332.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
台電公司在上個禮拜五 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4332.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4334.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
已經提出第一次的答覆說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4334.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4336.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
哎呀太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4336.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4338.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
那這個今天的報告有提到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4339.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
應該是上禮拜五下班才提交出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
好這個我想這個相關的互動啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4345.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
要更清楚透明的讓國人了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4347.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
禮拜五五六日意見已經過三天了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
我們現在在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
我們還在用舊的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4357.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
這是請問今天我們這個業務報告的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4357.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4359.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
是今天送來的還是禮拜五送的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
相關資訊要更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
我們現在新式核能的採用還有能源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4372.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
每天每分鐘每秒鐘我們都在賽跑好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4372.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4374.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
所以這一點再拜託更新一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4374.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4376.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
最後這個人才的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4376.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4378.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
這剛剛有委員也問到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4378.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4380.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
這個人才啊這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4380.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4382.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
這個現在有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4382.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4383.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
有一點缺漏啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4383.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4386.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
那一八年SR如果不足啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4386.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
考照狀況不理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
你們之前就人員不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
現在已經低於二十一人了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
我們剛剛都看到了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
人才需求二十四人的有二十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4398.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
但是二十一人你們預計可能會降到十七 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4398.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
你們說啊要用其他考照的方式來替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
替代的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
台電現在替代方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
哪些是核安會可以接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
除了退休的經理再把他找回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4411.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
還有哪些人員可以替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4411.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4412.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
有沒有一些標準啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4412.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4414.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我剛剛我有聽到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4414.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4417.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
其實我們一直在講核工人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4417.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
國研院很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
開始在討論外國人才專業人才來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4422.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
這部分主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
我們還有哪些替代的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4424.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
有沒有一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4427.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
我能不能跟委員先說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4432.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
這個是值班人員是台電公司要正式員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4432.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4437.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
那退休人員是協助當一些訓練的講師這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4437.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4441.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
那這部分人員的人數啊訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4441.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4443.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
會裡面在法規裡面已經規範了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4443.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4445.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
所以要求台電公司在在運整計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4445.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4448.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
要明確去規範這些人什麼什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4448.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4450.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
要去逮捕跟訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4450.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
要把這些人在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4454.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
機組繼續運轉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
人員要符合法規的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
好我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
核安核工的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
還有核能還有核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
台灣電力充足能源安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
全國民眾都很關心不分黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
那我們不能只相信台電的背書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4475.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
我們也核安會也不做台電的背書機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4475.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4477.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
台電有什麼地方做得不夠好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4477.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4480.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
要加強請核安會這裡一定要第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4480.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4481.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
要告知大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4481.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4484.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
跟台電之間的溝通也要清楚透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4484.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4486.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
不要這種禮拜五收到的文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4486.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4488.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
我們禮拜一在這裡質詢我們沒有得到資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4488.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4491.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
好不好相關的速度要夠快要透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4491.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4494.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
不要刺行到最後一個階段了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4494.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4497.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
才來介入有這種所謂的delay |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4497.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4500.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
這種時程的這個這個不對齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4500.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4502.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我們套一句沈柏楊委員講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4502.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4503.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
時間要對齊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4503.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4506.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
我們核安才能核能才能夠安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4506.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
我們的文化才能夠發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4510.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
國家的經濟才能夠建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4510.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
整個全球的局勢才能穩定好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
所以我想這個核安會的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4517.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
就這麼的重要好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4517.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
那最後出事的民眾不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4521.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
把他們算到你們頭上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4521.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4523.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
那剛剛這個主委答應要研議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4523.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4525.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
再麻煩好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4528.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
謝謝葛如君委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4528.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4529.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4529.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4534.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
下一位我們邀請陳吳佩奕委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4542.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4546.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
謝謝主席我請核安會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4552.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4553.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4553.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4556.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
上個禮拜5月17號發生一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4556.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4558.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
很嚴重的這個國際的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4558.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4560.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
就是我們阿拉伯聯合大公國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4560.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
巴拉卡核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
他遭到了無人機的襲擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
在5月17號的上午 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4569.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
那這個無人機的攻擊造成什麼結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4569.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4572.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
他導致這一座核電廠的發電機起火 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4572.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4575.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
這個事件呢這個國際上包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4575.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4578.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
俄羅斯包括美國都來去譴責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4578.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4580.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
因為他在起源關聯就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4580.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4583.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
跟中東衝突有關的這個攻擊事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4583.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4585.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
那麼無人機攻擊核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4585.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4588.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
他造成的後果有可能非常的嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4588.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4592.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
那這起案件還好是沒有這個傷亡的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4592.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4595.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
國際原子能總署對這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4595.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4598.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
他特別向聯合國提出了聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4598.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4601.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
在這個聲明當中我們看到幾個警示跟提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4601.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4603.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
第一個他是說這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4603.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4605.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
他是一座運作中的核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4605.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4607.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
那他的反應爐儲存了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4607.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4610.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
儲存了有數千公斤的核燃料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4610.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4613.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
那裡面也包括沒使用過跟使用過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4613.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4616.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
倘若被攻擊直接命中的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4616.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4620.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
他可能會導致大量的放射線物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4620.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4622.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
釋放在環境當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4622.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4625.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
但是就算他不是直接命中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4625.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4629.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
他如果是攻擊到他的供電陷入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4629.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4632.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
例如說發電機造成供電的斷電的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4632.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4635.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
他有可能會因為核電廠無法運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4635.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
沒有辦法冷卻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
所以會造成他的反應爐的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
可能會有融毀這樣的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4643.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
那麼這個國際原子能總署還說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
他說如果最壞的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
會需要來疏散跟安置居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4651.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
這個範圍可能是數公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4653.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4655.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
甚至是數百公里的範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4655.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
都要來安置跟疏散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4657.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
那我們台灣核安會當然是主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
是我們核能安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4665.7 |
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我們核安會針對核電廠的這個 |
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4665.7 |
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4668.7 |
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如果是面對無人機的這種恐攻 |
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4668.7 |
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4671.7 |
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我們是不是也有這個保安防恐的演練 |
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4673.02 |
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4674.02 |
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是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4674.02 |
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4676.02 |
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目前這個計畫是怎麼樣來進行 |
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4676.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4678.02 |
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例如說一年做幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4678.02 |
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4679.02 |
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然後包含哪些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4679.02 |
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4681.02 |
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有沒有疏散跟安置計畫等等 |
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4681.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4682.02 |
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能不能說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4684.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4685.73 |
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跟委員說明一下 |
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4685.73 |
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4687.73 |
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針對核電廠他每年都會做 |
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4687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4689.73 |
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就是保安的反恐演練 |
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4689.73 |
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4690.73 |
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每年一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4690.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4691.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
對 每年都有 |
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4691.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4692.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
每一座核電廠都會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4692.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4693.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
每一座都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4693.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4696.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
那他有兵器推演跟使兵的演練 |
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4696.73 |
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4700.73 |
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那目前無人機的這種就是應對 |
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4700.73 |
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4701.73 |
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都已經納在裡面 |
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4701.73 |
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4705.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
那電廠目前的就是核子保安的計畫 |
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4705.73 |
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4708.73 |
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也都有把遇到這樣事情的一個應變作業 |
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4708.73 |
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4711.73 |
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他有去盤點他可能遭遇的狀況 |
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4711.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4712.73 |
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然後可能的風險 |
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4713.73 |
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以及他的應對措施 |
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4713.73 |
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4716.73 |
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那都有透過就是歷年來的演習 |
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4716.73 |
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4717.73 |
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去做一個精進這樣 |
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4717.73 |
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4719.73 |
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那至於就是委員剛剛關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4719.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4722.73 |
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如果發生核子事故之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4722.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4723.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
場外民眾的這個疏散 |
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4723.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4728.73 |
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那因為電廠場內他也有緊急應變計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4728.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4731.73 |
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那我們場外就跟地方政府 |
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4731.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4732.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
也有一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4732.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4735.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
做緊急應變的一個計畫跟演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4735.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4738.73 |
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所以每年的核安演習都會做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4738.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4740.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
一個場外民眾的防護行動演練 |
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4740.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4742.73 |
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是這個非常重要 |
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4742.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
剛剛有講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4746.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
如果這種情況要疏散跟安置的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4746.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4748.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
在你們的演練計畫當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4748.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4750.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
如果以核一核二場來說 |
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4750.73 |
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4752.73 |
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因為這裡台北太近了就在新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4752.73 |
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4753.73 |
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我們是安置到哪裡 |
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4753.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4755.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
疏散到哪邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4755.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4756.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
有沒有相關的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4756.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4759.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
大概可以就是安置多少人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4759.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4761.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
以核一核二來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4761.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4763.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
因為新北市跟基隆市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4763.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4766.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
他們都有他們的核子事故區域民眾防護計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4766.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4769.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
那所以針對就是核一轄內的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4769.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4773.73 |
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就是新北市就是緊急應變計畫區內的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4773.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4775.73 |
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跟就是基隆市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4775.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4778.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
他們都有對應的一個疏散安置的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4778.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4779.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
那像新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4779.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4781.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
他通常都會在16公里外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4781.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
就是距離核電廠16公里外的區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4787.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
那新北市他會目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4787.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
因為他會分裡就是不同的裡別 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4791.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
他有對應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4791.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4793.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
他先規劃一個疏散地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4793.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
那包括疏散過程中的那個路線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
是 以新北來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4797.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
我們之前的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4797.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4801.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
我們疏散的人數是估計多少的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4801.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
過去新北的演練人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
因為整體的那個演練人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
之前有幾千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
但是可能不是全部都是疏散作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4812.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
他會看他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4812.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4814.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
就是因為以這個國際事件來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4814.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4817.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
就是幾千人我想一定是不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4817.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4818.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
那這個沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4818.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4820.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
能不能夠這個質詢會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4820.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4823.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
來去提供我們這個更細部的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4823.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4826.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
那未來我們也希望這相關的這些演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4826.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4828.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
有一些民眾必須要知道的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4828.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4829.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
也可以要來去公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4829.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4831.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
因為這核能安全民眾非常的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4831.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4833.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
那請核安會在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4833.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
一定要去把它做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
那同時我也想提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4836.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
因為今天就在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4836.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4839.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
我們財委會正在審我們軍購的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4839.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4841.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
其實呢這個國防安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4841.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4844.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
也就關係了我們的核能安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4844.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4846.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
一個人這個事件來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4846.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4848.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
我們一定要有這個我們國防的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4848.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4850.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
所以這個也要拜託我們立法院同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4850.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
關心核安大家一起來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4854.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
那最後因為還有一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4854.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4855.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
我想要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4855.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
在這個我們有一個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4860.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
核安會的風險評估這個總表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4860.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4862.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
核心這個要求我們來做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4862.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4864.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
那我裡面有看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4864.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4867.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
你們有提到說有一個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4867.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4870.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
你們把它列為風險項目跟風險的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4870.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4874.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
就是說你們之前的有一個預算的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4874.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4878.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
就是遭到我們立法院的刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4878.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
有一個研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4882.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
是關於這個核能減災的這個研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4882.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4884.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
你們把它列為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4884.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4886.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
因為這個之前預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4886.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
遭到立法院的刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4890.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
所以它成為你們的控管風險表裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4890.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4893.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
這個風險項目跟風險情境之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4893.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4895.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
能不能說明這是什麼樣的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4895.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
那我們預算收到什麼樣的這個刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4901.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4904.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
我想這幾個第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4905.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4908.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
有關於我們柴油發電機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4908.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
洩漏的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4913.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
這裡已經根據風險廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4913.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4915.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
第一個建立標準作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4915.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
我沒有問你那個桃園的那個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
我問你那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4924.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
最後就是剛講的這個核能減災的研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4924.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
預算刪除這一個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4926.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
說明這一個案就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
在你那個風險管控的總表當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4934.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
那個風險管控就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4934.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4936.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
我們預想最壞的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4936.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4938.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
我們要有最好的因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4938.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4940.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
所以包括任何可能的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4940.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
我們都要去思考說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4944.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
會不會對這個計畫造成影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4944.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4946.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
所以不管說刪減計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4946.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4948.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
或者是計畫執行不利什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4948.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
這都是我們會設想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
它是我們這個計畫執行的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
對 沒錯 因為我想減災也是非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
那麼因為馬上也要這個審查預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
所以我要拜託你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
因為立法院不應該是核能安全的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4964.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
我們應該是要來核能安全支持的後盾才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4964.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
拜託你們可以多加的跟我們委員來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4970.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
我們希望這個預算能夠在你們充足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4970.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4972.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
然後可以執行的情況下來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4972.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
謝謝委員的支持 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4976.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
謝謝吳佩儀委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4976.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
下一位有請吳思堯委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5001.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5003.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
好 有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5004.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5005.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
請主委備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5012.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
好 大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5012.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5016.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
我今天的質詢會聚焦在重啟核電當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5016.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5019.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
現在進行的再運轉的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5019.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5021.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我們核安會正在審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5021.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5024.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
那我們核電廠的防禦韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5024.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
是一個最新的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
最新的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
有沒有納入我們的相關的安全檢測呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
這是我的命題 下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5034.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5037.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
非核家園從去年5月17號到現在上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5037.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5040.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
到今天是第373天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5041.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
373天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5043.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
這是我查到今天早上的台電這個報表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
預估尖峰備載容量率今天是綠燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5054.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5057.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
綠燈是什麼意思 跟大家說明一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5058.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5061.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
是供電充裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
供電充裕無虞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
所以是高達23.54%的備轉容量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
所以大家可以安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5075.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
非核家園上路了 台灣沒有缺電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5075.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5079.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
這是每一天國人都可以公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5079.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5084.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
去了解關心我們的備載容量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5084.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5086.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
所以我們要清楚的向社會來論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5086.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5087.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5088.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5090.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5089.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5093.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
那以日本福島核災之後的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5093.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5097.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
在311地震的當下運轉中的核電廠當然暫時都暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5097.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5099.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
事後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5099.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5106.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
2015年日本重新的陸續重啟全面的核電廠的強化安全規格的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5106.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5110.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
他停下來之後要重新恢復運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5110.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
目前我收集到的數據是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5116.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
通過審查恢復運轉的有15座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5118.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5120.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
審查中的還有8座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5120.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5122.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
到現在都審查超過10年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5122.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5125.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
因為安全的規格要升級能不能夠達標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5125.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
持續在審查有8座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
那已經通過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5134.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
但是日本政府確定不運轉的核電廠有3座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5134.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5138.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
主要來自於在地的地方政府或是民意的反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5139.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5144.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
那明確除役退場的核電廠高達24座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5144.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5147.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
主要當然是因為安全的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5147.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
或者是他恢復運轉的經濟成本的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5154.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
換言之311地震之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5154.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5156.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
日本的核電的佔比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5156.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
從2010年的25%到現在2025年10年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
大概是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5165.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
這是數據告訴我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5165.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5168.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
我要應用在今天的質詢就是要告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5168.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5169.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5169.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5173.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
審好審滿安全不能打折 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5173.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5176.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
這整個在運轉的計劃不是流於形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5176.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5179.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
更不能夠虛應故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5180.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
所以核安會的工作非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5183.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
重啟核電是道足且長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5189.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
不管是政策決定的三大原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5189.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5192.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
核安是不是無虞核廢是不是有解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5192.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5194.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
社會有沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5194.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5197.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
這些都跟核安會至關重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5197.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
你們的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
所以說我們在審查的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5204.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
當然包括廚藝的核電廠老化的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5204.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
是不是能夠再運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
如果可以再運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5210.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
可以再展延使用幾年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5210.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5212.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
有沒有符合經濟效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5213.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
還有進行地震的危害分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
斷層帶會不會影響到核電的再重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
這是日本在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
台灣也在做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
但是最新的我今天的主題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
我們的在運轉計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5231.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
有沒有因應國際最新的地緣政治的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5231.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
納入相關戰爭可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5237.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
引起的防禦韌性的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5237.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5239.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
剛剛前一位委員在質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5239.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5241.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
他是關心在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5241.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5244.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
如果被戰爭影響了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5244.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5248.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
那我們的安置 疏散 應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5248.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5250.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
有沒有做好整個配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5250.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5252.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
而我要進入的主題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5252.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5256.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
整個在運轉計劃裡頭的戰爭風險的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5256.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
我們有沒有納入非常重要的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5261.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
來 請先簡單回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5264.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
就是目前針對戰爭的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
台電公司已經有核電廠面臨軍事威脅下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5270.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
確保核安的準備跟應變計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
這個計劃不是因為在運轉才有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5276.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5278.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
而是在前面 面長就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5278.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
在之前就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
在之前還是處理的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
其實就已經有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
我要提醒的是什麼 夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5286.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
當然大家都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5286.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
伊朗對阿聯跟美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5288.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
他瞄準核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
無人機襲擊的這個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
剛剛其他委員也在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5296.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
這確實是國際發生的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
要帶給我們的省思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5300.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
但我認為你們要嚴格去解釋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5304.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
不是台電本來就有這一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5306.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
而是現在如果重啟的核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5308.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
要在重啟的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5310.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5314.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
有沒有去提升相關防禦韌性的規格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5314.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5317.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
就例如最新的無人機的襲擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5317.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5319.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
我們怎麼來因應跟防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5319.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5320.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5321.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
而不只剛剛說的伊朗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
最新的戰士核電廠成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
被攻擊鎖定的工具之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5327.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
其實早在烏爾戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
烏克蘭的扎波羅熱核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5335.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
就被俄羅斯軍隊控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5335.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5337.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
全面中斷運作到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5337.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5339.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
歷經多次的炮擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5339.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5341.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
以及無人機的襲擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5341.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5345.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
它不只是成為直接攻擊的target |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5345.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
它更可以因此來造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
經濟運轉的恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5352.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
電力供應的恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5352.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
具有強大的心理震懾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5359.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
的這一個重要的戰爭操作目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5360.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5364.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
更可能讓雙方將核能安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5364.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
或能源安全可以作為外交的博弈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5369.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
跟輿論戰的焦點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5369.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5371.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
所以說我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5371.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5373.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
我還沒有看到台電在運轉進化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5373.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
它其實也相對的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
我也不一定能夠完全的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
但是我要提醒的是夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5381.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5383.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
這是國際的期刊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5383.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
跟我們的學者的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5387.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
核電廠對於炮火攻擊的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5387.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5389.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
可能引發大規模放射性的污染 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5389.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5391.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
電力如果中斷的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5391.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5393.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
裸露了燃料棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5393.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5396.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
爐心毀損釋放放射性物質怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5396.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
當然還包括燃料冷卻池的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
不管是使用中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5404.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
或者是沒有使用中的這些燃料棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5404.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5407.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
它都有相當高的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5407.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5408.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
所以最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5408.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5408.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
我建議你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
這是核安會自己要做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
不只是因應核電的重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
其實核電廠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5420.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
被地緣政治在戰事引起的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5420.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5423.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
不是只有重啟運轉的核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5423.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5426.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
其實原本的核設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5426.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5429.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
包括我們的廢棄物的儲存處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5429.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5431.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
都會受到戰爭的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5431.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5433.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
我要求你們三件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5433.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5434.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5435.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
戰時的核設施的安全治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
不是只有核安會能做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5441.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5441.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5443.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
國防經濟能源部門都要整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5443.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
第二件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5445.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
因應地緣政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5445.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5447.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
國際多邊的安全合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5447.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5449.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
就是強化跟IAEA |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5449.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
國際原子能總署的即時通報的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5453.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5453.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
跟上國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
我們的核設施的安全韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5457.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
都要升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5457.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5461.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
不是只針對台電送出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5461.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
要除役的核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
能不能夠重啟的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
在運轉的計畫安全評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
而是所有台灣現存的核設施即便除役 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
它都掩藏著可能因應地緣政治戰爭的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
這是我今天拋出來的最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5478.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
美國政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5481.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5484.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
共和黨的參議員也提出一個具體的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5484.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5485.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5485.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5488.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
你們也可以提供專家的意見給立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5488.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5491.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
也就是美國4月30號最新的共和黨參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5491.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
這個Tom Cotton他所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5496.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
關鍵基礎設施空域防衛法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5497.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5503.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
如果關鍵基礎設施沒有合法的權力的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5503.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
那對於無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5509.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
能不能夠主動去啟動防禦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5509.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
為關鍵基礎設施來設置必要的撥款的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
用於購買反制無人機的一些新進的技術跟設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5523.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
那我們用國際的經驗讓我們想想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5523.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5525.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
現在其實是一個好的時機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5525.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
在運轉計畫送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
除役的核電廠能不能夠重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
還有過恩觀展恩將 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5535.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
但是對於台灣所有現存的核設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5535.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5537.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
的強化無人機的襲擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5537.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5539.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
以及防禦的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5539.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
乃至於剛剛吳佩儀委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
所有的假設受到戰爭的波及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
安置疏散應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5553.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
這是整套全方位的配套都要細緻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5553.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5555.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
主委是不是say yes |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5555.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5557.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
可以往這三方面我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5557.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5559.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
來做更多專業上的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5559.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5561.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
這很好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5561.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
那在台電捨查他的再運轉計畫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5566.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
也要強化對於戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5566.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
戰事風險防禦韌性的這一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5571.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5571.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5573.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
這個你們也會強化這方面的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5573.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5575.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
好OK 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5577.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5579.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
謝謝吳思瑤委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5579.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5581.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5581.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5585.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
下一位我們有請郭育晴委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5594.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
好謝謝主席有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5594.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5596.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5603.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
主委早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5605.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5605.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
好我想今天我們去教這三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
第一個問題我想要問的是重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5612.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
這個核三的一個風險的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5612.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5614.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
跟核安會我們角色的定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5614.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5617.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
然後第二個問題我想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5617.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5619.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
核三廠如果碰到了核災的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5619.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5622.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
撤離一個安全的一個整備的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5622.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5626.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
再來第三就是我們的這個輻射防護學習網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5626.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5629.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
是不是只停留在形式上的建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5629.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5630.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
這三大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5630.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5632.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
我們來看一下今天時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5632.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5634.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
好那首先先講到第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5634.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5636.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
我想這個核三重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5636.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5639.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
我想核安會不能只是一個技術審查者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5639.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5643.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
他應該更是一個社會信任的一個把關者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5643.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5648.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
那我知道這個4月28號我們有做地方的說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5648.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5650.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
那地方的居民反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5650.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5652.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
有很多所謂的這個核心上的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5652.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5656.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
那麼包含就是我們的恆春活動斷層的一個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5656.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5660.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
那再來就是我們的核廢料的長期儲存的一個安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5660.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5664.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
再來就是在運轉之後的監測跟風險的一個管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5664.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5667.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
那既然民間有這麼多的一個聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5667.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5670.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
但是那天大部分的民眾感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5670.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5673.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
是我們都在談所謂的在運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5673.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5675.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
以及地方回饋的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5675.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5679.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那麼如果是讓核三在運轉的這個議題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5679.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5681.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
要如何讓民眾相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5681.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5684.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我們的核安會不是只有站在推動的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5684.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5689.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
而是要真正站在所謂的監管跟風險把關的一個位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5689.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5690.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
那麼目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5691.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5694.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
我們看到很多的這個資訊公開的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5694.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5697.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
是幾百頁的一個技術的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5697.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
但我就要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
一般的居民真的看得懂嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5704.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
是不是能夠有更白化的一個轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5704.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5706.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
還有重點的摘要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5706.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5708.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
另外是圖像式的一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5708.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5709.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
這是我的建議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5709.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
那即使是我們的資訊公開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5714.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
民眾也未必能夠真正的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5714.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5718.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
所以我剛剛在講這個程序雖然有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5718.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5722.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
但是不代表我們跟社會有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5722.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5724.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
或者是我們的社區的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5724.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5726.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
他有所謂的這個參與感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5726.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5728.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
這是兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5728.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5730.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
那再來我真的建議核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5730.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5732.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
除了這個技術的完整的一個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5732.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5734.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
同時也應該要提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5734.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5735.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
就像我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5735.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5738.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
白化紋一點點的這個風險的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5738.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5740.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
再來重點的摘要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5740.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5742.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
再來圖像化的一個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5742.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5746.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
還有一定要讓所謂的在地的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5746.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5749.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
去表達所謂的FAQ這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5749.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5753.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
這個我們去草擬這樣子的一個FAQ |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5753.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5754.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
這樣子的一個順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5754.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5756.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
那我想能夠降低理解的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5756.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5759.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
才能夠得到所謂的資訊的一個平權 |
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5759.43 |
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5760.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
這是第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5760.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
第二個那未來在審查相關的一個溝通的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5768.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
我們是不是可以更實質的納入當地居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5768.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5770.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
還有公民團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5770.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5772.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
還有利害關係人的參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5772.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5774.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
尤其是針對我剛剛提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5774.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5776.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
恆春活動的一個斷層最新的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5776.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5780.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
還有高低放射性的核廢料的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5780.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5783.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
再來再運轉的安全監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5783.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5786.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
這是是不是可以更加的聚焦好請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5787.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5791.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
謝謝委員建議非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5791.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5795.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
我們會繼續滾動去檢視回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5797.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5801.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
所以我剛剛所給的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5801.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5805.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
我相信這個和安會應該是可以再多做一些準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5805.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5809.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
而不是要居民去看那一整份幾百頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5809.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5812.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
然後都是一些所謂的比較專業性的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5812.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5814.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
這樣子的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5814.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5817.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
我想這個可能對居民來講理解上會有一些難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5817.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5821.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
我們會持續運到能夠用更白化更圖像式的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5821.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5823.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
讓大家更容易了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5823.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5824.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
那今天因為時間關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5824.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5825.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
第二題我直接跳了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5825.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5828.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
那我想這個核散廠的一個撤離跟安全的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5828.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5831.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
其實剛剛有幾位委員也特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5831.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5834.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
我們現在的疏散的量能真的足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5834.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5835.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
這是我要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5835.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5839.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
我想我們不是只有平常在運轉的安全我們要顧慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5839.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5843.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
另外其實也包含一些所謂的極端事故之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5843.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5845.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
人民能不能夠安全的一個撤離 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5845.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5849.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
因為目前我們知道這個EPZ的涵蓋的一個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5849.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5851.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
有19個村裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5853.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5853.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
那超過1萬3000戶的一個居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5856.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
那因為恆春半島其實他的位處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5859.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
這個地理的一個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5860.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
他的交通比較特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5862.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
再來連外的道路也是比較有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
那另外如果碰到所謂的觀光的旺季 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5868.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
車流量都非常的龐大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5870.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
但是我們假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
如果地震、豪雨道路中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5879.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
還有大量的觀光的車潮同時發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5879.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
請問我們有撤離的計畫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5882.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
那這個計畫足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5884.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
這個部分可不可以請簡單說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5887.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5888.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
針對就是發生核災這個緊急應變計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
針對委員關心的疏散撤離的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5894.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
因為我們會採分階段分時的方式進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5900.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
在一開始會先將遊客先勸離 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5900.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5902.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
因為他們不是在地的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5902.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5904.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
所以會請他們先離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5904.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
那後面如果需要疏散的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5906.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5908.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
也會先從弱勢民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5908.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5910.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
就是委員所關心的這些高風險族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5910.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5912.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
因為他們需要的疏散時間比較久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5912.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5915.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
所以會先從他們開始做優先的疏散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5915.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5918.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
因為我們知道在整個所有的範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5918.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5920.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
就是那個一萬三千多戶的一個人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5920.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5922.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
其實有很多是獨居的長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5922.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5924.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
再來很多是行動不便者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5924.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5928.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
那另外還有一些比較需要特殊照顧的一些居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5928.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5931.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
那我想如果我們有沒有納入所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5931.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5933.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
極端負荷式的一個災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5933.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5935.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
做情境上的一個壓力測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5935.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5937.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
這個部分我們做過了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5937.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5939.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
報告委員在目前的兵器 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5939.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5942.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
就是每年的荷蘭演習的演練當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5942.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5946.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
在兵器隊員都會做相關的一個盤點跟測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5946.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
那這些盤點是即時的名單的更新嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5952.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
對因為都會有地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5952.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5954.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
因為我們的荷蘭演習是中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5954.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5957.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
因為每年都會做荷蘭演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5957.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5959.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
另外如果沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5959.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5961.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
當年沒有做荷蘭演習的地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5961.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5964.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
他也會做居民的一個疏散的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5964.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5967.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
那我們的通訊的設備的資源有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5967.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5969.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
通訊的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5969.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5971.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
我想要提的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5971.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5974.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
這方面的一個備援的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5974.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
那包含我剛剛講的即時的名冊的一個更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
然後再來就是我們的通訊設備的一個更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5983.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
再來還包含接送能力的調度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5983.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5984.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
我想我們在談的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5984.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5988.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
當災害來臨時我們有沒有應變的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5988.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
韌性這兩個字其實還蠻重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
提供給我們荷蘭會作為參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5993.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
第三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5993.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5997.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
因為我們的這個輻射法務學習網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5997.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5999.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
其實是不是只有建制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5999.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
6001.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
而要讓人民真的看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
6001.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6004.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
這個部分其實也攸關我們的一些所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
6004.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6007.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
在整個所有內容上的一個轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6007.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
因為現在這個平台上有21門的專業的科目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
6013.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
那6門的這個科普的課程還有互動遊戲等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
6013.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
6018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
那我想輻射的議題本來就比較容易讓民眾焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
6018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
6023.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
因為如果我們的教材還是偏重在所謂的一些專業的一個術語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
6023.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
6027.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
把原來的內容數位化那豈是另外一種門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6027.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6028.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
雖然我們有設KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6028.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6032.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
這個KPI好像是7000人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6032.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6033.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
這是我們的KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
6033.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
但是如果是要讓一般民眾都能夠瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
這個KPI的設置是不是有點低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6038.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6039.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6041.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6046.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
報告委員就是我們這個學習網其實是有兩大的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6046.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6051.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
第一個就是要讓我們的輻射從業人員能夠做職場的再教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6051.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6055.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
所以精準正確然後讓他有那個積分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6055.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
所以這個KPI只是否我們的專業人員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6062.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
這邊還是一般的社會民眾其實他們應該也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6062.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6063.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
我們目前的KPI是把它混合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6063.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6066.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
因為另外一個我們學習網還有一個就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6066.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6069.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
也就是要發揮分眾的這種科普教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6069.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6073.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
所以目前我們確實我們的KPI是把它給miss起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6073.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6076.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
所以後續我們就會參照委員的一個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6076.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6081.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
因為我們後台其實有在做一些類似玩客率輻射作業人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6081.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6083.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
我給你三項建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6083.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6087.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
第一項其實我們要檢討的其實除了這個績效的一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6087.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
其實還不只要看流量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
而是要看大家真正的參與的一個程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6096.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
那第二個部分其實真的也希望我們能夠建立這個大眾化的轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6096.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6099.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
跟所謂的使用者的這樣子的一個計算的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6099.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
納入所謂的科普跟數位設計的一個專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
而不是只是讓我們看到是所謂的技術審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
這是第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6110.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
第三點我們要提出一些比較實質的一個效應的一個驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6110.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6113.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
包含玩客率使用者的回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6113.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6115.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
還有不同年齡層的使用的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6115.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6118.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
還有互動的參考的一個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6118.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6121.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
這三點其實提供給你們做一些參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6121.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
我想人民要的不是只有程序有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6126.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
而是我們的資訊要能夠被理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6126.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6128.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
然後再來我們的風險能夠參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6128.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6130.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
還有我們的安全能夠被信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6130.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
這是我相信這也算是核安會最重要的一個使命跟宗旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6135.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6135.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6136.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6136.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6137.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6137.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6140.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
好謝謝郭育清委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6140.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6141.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6141.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6145.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
下一位我們有請林宜菁委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6151.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6153.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
謝謝主席有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6158.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
主委長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6160.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6161.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6164.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
這個上個月的月底我們核安會有在恆春政工所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6164.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
來舉辦這個地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6172.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
那很多的地方居民跟這個民間團體也都有發表意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6172.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6174.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
不過單單只舉辦說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6174.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
是否就叫完備社會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
我是存疑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6183.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
畢竟我覺得能源政策是攸關整個國家的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6183.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6184.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
所以核能安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6184.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6190.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
它也當然也與全國這個潛在受影響的對象大大相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6190.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
所以本席認為我們這個在運轉計畫審查的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
我們應該持續在辦理這個多次的說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
來確實參考民眾的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6207.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
那首先本席要加以詢問的就是資訊公開與轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6207.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6210.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
這點核安會是否有落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6210.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6211.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
因為根據這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6213.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6215.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
它所訂定的這個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6215.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
核能安全管制在進行公眾溝通的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6222.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
其實它要落實有三個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6222.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6224.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
一個就是主動資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6224.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6226.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
一個是易於理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6226.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
一個就是建立信任跟可追溯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
這三個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
所以我們看到核安會其實在我們在運轉審查的相關資訊公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
有建立這個網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
可是網站所記載的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
還有在地方上所周知民眾的這些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
是否有落實完整的資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
那容易讓人理解這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6253.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
我覺得為什麼這麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6253.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6257.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
因為核能安全審查其實都是專業的術語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6257.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6261.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
那可是民眾唯一關心的就是安全不安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6261.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
所以如果說連這個簡單的轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6267.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
這個專業的名詞給民眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6267.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6271.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
甚至是所謂用淺顯易懂的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6271.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6274.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
庶民語言來說明這個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6274.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6276.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
讓在地居民能充分理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6276.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6279.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
我覺得這種基本要求如果做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6279.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6282.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
那本席認為其實沒有資格談核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6282.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6284.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
使用核能這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6284.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6286.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
所以本席在這裡要強烈要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6286.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6290.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
就核安會不是說只要辦多場的說明會而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6290.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6295.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
我們要設計出一套讓人容易理解的這種政策說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6295.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
還有就是潛在受影響的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6303.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
他應該要充分理解我們政策宣導的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6303.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6305.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
所以以上我剛說的這些要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6305.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6308.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
核安會你認為你目前做到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6308.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6310.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
那還可以再進進哪些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6312.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6314.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6313.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
我覺得這個溝通是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6316.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我也講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
我覺得我們還有很大的進步空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6321.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
比如說淺顯易懂的文字上的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
或者多用一些圖表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
避免用專有名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
這些我們都會持續進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6335.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
我們做第一場之後我們有回來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6335.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6337.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
所以一定要做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6338.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6340.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
有效的溝通讓大家放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6340.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6343.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
這是我們持續做的目標 |
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所以你們會再努力 |
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朝這個讓庶民語言讓民眾理解的這種方向去前進 |
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6350.02 |
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對我們會往這方面走 |
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6352.02 |
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6355.02 |
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至於我剛說的就是說我們所謂的這個 |
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6359.02 |
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受潛勢影響的這些地方 |
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包括你家恆春有辦了沒 |
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6361.02 |
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那車城滿洲要辦說明會嗎 |
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6365.02 |
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核安會有沒有規劃 |
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6366.26 |
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6368.26 |
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我想在附近 |
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6369.92 |
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6371.92 |
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附近都在鄰近而已 |
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6371.92 |
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6375.92 |
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雖然核電廠是在恆春 |
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可是它鄰近 |
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6377.92 |
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6379.92 |
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它車城滿洲都在隔壁而已 |
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6379.92 |
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6382.92 |
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其實到時候如果發生意外的話 |
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6382.92 |
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6383.92 |
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或者發生事情的話 |
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其實車城滿洲是很容易 |
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6386.92 |
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6388.92 |
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這個吳立華委員最清楚了 |
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6388.92 |
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6390.92 |
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是連帶急受影響的 |
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6390.92 |
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6393.92 |
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那這個你們有打算去那邊辦說明會嗎 |
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6393.92 |
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6394.92 |
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有的 |
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6394.76 |
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6397.76 |
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跟委員說明我們4月28日 |
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雖然是在恆春辦說明會 |
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我們也有邀請車城滿母丹鄉 |
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6403.76 |
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是 |
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6406.76 |
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跟相關的鄰近的鄉鎮都有邀請他 |
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6410.76 |
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那另外我們也在當天也有開直播 |
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所以雖然沒有辦法到場的關心的民眾 |
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6418.76 |
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他也可以透過直播的方式去瞭解整個議題 |
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以上說明 |
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我先補充一下 |
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因為有的抱怨說 |
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6421.76 |
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6423.76 |
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很多人不知道有這樣公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6423.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6428.76 |
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我們下一次會在值班前很久會加強宣傳 |
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6428.76 |
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6429.76 |
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所有的團體 |
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6429.76 |
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6432.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
請公所協助來幫忙宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6432.76 |
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6433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
對 |
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6433.76 |
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6434.76 |
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事實上也是有了 |
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6435.76 |
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是 |
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6435.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6438.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
還有我們會加強宣傳 |
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6438.76 |
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6439.76 |
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好 |
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6439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6441.76 |
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那在眾所周知的部分 |
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6441.76 |
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6443.76 |
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就是說我們除了 |
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6443.76 |
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6444.76 |
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我剛剛提到的 |
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6444.76 |
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6447.76 |
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除了這個所謂的應變範圍內的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6447.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
沿路逃生路線的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
是不是也應該要充分理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
我們核安會的各項政策說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
為什麼要這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6456.76 |
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6460.76 |
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我們用河山場的蘇山路線來做為例子 |
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6460.76 |
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6464.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
我們看到恆春對外的大條的這個連外道路 |
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6464.76 |
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6467.76 |
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基本上只有台26線 |
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6467.76 |
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6468.76 |
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就是平而公路 |
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6468.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6472.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
那當然還有平這個200線道 |
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6472.76 |
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6473.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6473.76 |
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6476.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
路的運輸上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6476.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
我們應該想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6478.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
最快 |
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6478.76 |
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6481.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
這個最安全的蘇山的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6481.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6482.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
那當然了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6482.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6484.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
核安會你們來說明的時候有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6484.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6486.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
在現行的運輸方案下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6486.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6490.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
海運跟鐵路的替代運輸方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6490.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6492.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
不過我想我們面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6492.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6494.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
這個天災或戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6494.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6496.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
有可能的發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6496.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6499.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
核安會目前有沒有跟屏東縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6499.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6502.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
來擬定周全的蘇山計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6502.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6504.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
來做好對公眾的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6504.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6506.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
這就變得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6506.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6508.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
我們看完南部我們來看北部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6508.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6513.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
這個新北合一合二廠對外的大條的連外道路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6513.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6515.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
主要是台二線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6515.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6517.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
那充其量台二甲線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6517.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
也有辦法來負擔後續的這個應變緊急疏散 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6522.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
那同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6522.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
有沒有跟新北市政府做好溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6527.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
我想這也是核安會的任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6527.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6530.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
畢竟我們反映完了這個燃料棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6530.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6531.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
還沒移出廠區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6531.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6533.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
那就是有風險 |
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6533.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6535.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
所以本席要請教核安會的是說 |
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6535.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6539.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
我們除了核子事故緊急應變範圍內的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6539.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6542.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
受潛在影響的居民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6542.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6546.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
比如說我們到恆春到萬里 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6546.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
到金山石門的觀光客 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6551.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
我們要如何讓這些沿線的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6551.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
知道這個核子事故緊急應變的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6559.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
針對委員剛剛關心的就是像觀光客遊客的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
目前我們也跟地方政府都有合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
例如說風景區都有一些相關的宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6571.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
讓他們去遊玩的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6571.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
同時也接受一些核安的一些知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6577.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
那你相關的宣導是有小冊子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6577.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6579.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
或者是怎麼樣相關的宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6579.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
有一些宣導的單張跟手冊之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6585.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
我們有放在相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6585.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6588.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
像北關處的遊客中心等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6588.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6589.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6589.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6593.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
那我想我們一切都是為了防範於未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6593.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
那所以當然也絕非 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
是為了重啟核電來做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
因為我要強調的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
我們核電廠即便沒有運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
那可是它仍然有核廢料存放的廠區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
那只要有核廢料存放的廠區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6611.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
它就有相當程度的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6611.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
所以不只前面提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
溝通要做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
然後資訊要簡單明瞭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
然後風險要精準掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
我們也希望核安會真的要做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6621.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
萬全的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6621.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
那麼在接下來的預算審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6625.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
我們就會加以關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6625.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
在緊急應變上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
我們是不是有這個韌性存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
請教核安會有把握做到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6633.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6634.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
這個韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6634.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6636.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
把關的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6636.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6637.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
OK喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6637.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6639.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
那我們審查預算後再來好好談 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6639.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6641.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
謝謝主委謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6641.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6642.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6642.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6644.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
謝謝林怡菁委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6644.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6646.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6646.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6651.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
下一位我們有請羅志強委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6667.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6668.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
主席有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6669.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6670.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6676.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6676.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6677.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6681.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
台灣絕對要投資核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6681.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
使用能源不應該被污名化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6686.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
請問你知道這句話誰說的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6688.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6690.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6690.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
我告訴你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6695.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
是輝達執行長黃仁勳說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6695.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6699.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
他說台灣政府應該支持各種能源政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6699.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6702.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
我們需要各種能源的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6702.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6704.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
風力太陽能核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6704.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
台灣絕對要投資核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6711.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
使用核能不應該被污名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6713.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6714.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
科技巨頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6714.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
跟先進國家都支持發展跟投資核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
這已經是現在的一個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6722.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6724.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
主委你同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6725.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6727.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
包括輝達在內的科技巨頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6731.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6733.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
還有像Google啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6733.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6734.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
亞馬遜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6737.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
都呼籲積極投資核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6738.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6743.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
發展AI先進國家美日韓也都以研議來發展核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6743.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6745.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
那就是因應未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6745.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6749.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
尤其AI時代非常龐大的電力需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6749.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6751.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
這幾乎是世界的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6751.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6753.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
主委你之前也說過嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6753.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6757.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
如果研議核電可以減輕供電壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6757.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6759.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
也有助穩定電價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6759.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6760.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
簡單來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6760.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6763.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
台灣其實就是缺電啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6764.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6768.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
而且核電就是重要而且可行的解方之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6768.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6769.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6769.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6770.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6771.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6773.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
那我要問主委哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6773.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6776.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
你還記得過去非核家園喊停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6776.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6778.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
其實你這樣喊停非核家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6778.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6780.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
其實就認清這個事實啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6780.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
所以國民黨也就修了核管法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6784.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6786.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
讓核電研議嘛這您知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6786.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6787.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6787.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6789.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
這點主委是認同的嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6789.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6790.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6790.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6791.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
所以我們也看到黃仁勳苦口婆心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6795.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6797.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
他講的非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6797.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6798.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
點出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6799.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6801.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
投資核能的必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
但我要問主委啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6803.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6804.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
如果有人跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6805.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6807.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
他反對核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6807.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6809.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
然後不准你發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6809.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6812.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
那又批評政府不把用電問題解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
你會覺得邏輯有點矛盾啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6817.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6819.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
電梯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6821.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6822.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
高硬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6823.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6826.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
是經濟部要規範的事情啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6826.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6827.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6828.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6830.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
還會是負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6831.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6832.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
核能的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6832.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6834.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
好啦我不為難主委了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6834.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6835.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
讓大家來公判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
如果有一個人吼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
他過去反對黃仁勳口中非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6846.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
未來的趨勢的發電方式就核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
過去長年也是作為我們國家發展的機載電力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
然後結果我今天跟大家講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
你看現在電不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
你沒有把用電問題解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6859.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
政府沒有把用電問題解決無能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6860.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6861.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
那大家來公判啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6861.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6863.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
這樣的人是不是邏輯矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6864.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
我要告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6865.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6866.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
我說的是誰啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6867.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6868.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
就是沈柏楊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6869.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6872.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
民進黨要參選台北市長的沈柏楊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6873.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6876.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
就直接示範了這種邏輯死亡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6877.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
台北市好不容易爭取到揮達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6881.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
來台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6882.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6883.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
社總部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6884.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6885.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6886.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6888.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
都在關心AI帶來的效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6891.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
結果我們台北市講到北思科 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6893.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6894.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
他的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6894.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6895.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6895.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6896.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
非常的高明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6900.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
他批評講話沒有解決用電問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6901.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
我告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6903.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6905.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
羅志強可以批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6905.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6907.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
我們政府有沒有解決用電問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6908.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6910.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
國民黨可以批評有沒有解決用電問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6911.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6913.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
就你沈柏楊沒資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6913.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6914.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6915.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6916.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
你過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6916.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6918.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
你是投票反對合管法耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6920.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6922.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
你是反對核電研議耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6923.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
你是反對台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6925.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6927.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
用核能發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6927.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6928.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6928.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6930.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
我們未來可能的缺電問題耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6931.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6933.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
結果你跟大家講就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
批評台北市政府沒有解決用電問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6939.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6942.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
你沈柏楊就台灣用電最大的絆腳石啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6943.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6944.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
自己反對核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6944.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6947.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
也反對黃仁欣提出來的能源需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6947.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6949.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
要選台北市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6949.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
姚森變為電力專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6952.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
我還是覺得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6955.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6956.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
能源政策啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6957.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6957.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6958.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
回歸專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6959.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6960.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
第二個要有一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6962.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6964.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
不要你過去反對什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6964.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6965.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
就今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6965.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6967.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
換個角度 換個身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6967.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
就把過去曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6969.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
反對的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6969.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6970.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
全部忘光光 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6971.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6973.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
這樣不是一個負責任的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6974.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6975.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
未來首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6976.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6978.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
我接下來想請教我們主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6980.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6982.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
今天我們審查核安會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6982.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
過去幾次詢答跟說明當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6986.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6989.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我覺得主委都非常願意務實面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6989.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6990.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
我們核電議題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6990.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
的現在的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6993.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
這一點啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6993.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6996.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
我要對主委跟核安會的專業給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6996.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6997.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6998.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6999.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
但我今天想談一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
7001.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
7004.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
組織結構跟政策高度的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
7004.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
7006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
核安會的前紳士 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
7006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7007.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
打個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7009.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
原子能委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7011.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7013.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
2023年5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7015.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7019.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
這個民進黨當時是國會多數啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7019.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7021.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
立法院通過把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7021.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
核能安全委員會組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7024.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7027.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
從原本的二級單位的原能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7027.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7029.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
降為三級單位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7031.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7033.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
當時民進黨多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7033.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7035.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
所以執政黨修法降級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7039.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
但你記得當時國民黨在內所有在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7039.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7043.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
甚至包括民眾黨跟時代力量的立場是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
7043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
7044.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7046.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7048.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
我那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7049.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7051.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
還不是核安會主委比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7053.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
你那時候應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7055.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
有點我都服了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7055.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7056.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
你投票如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7056.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7058.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
我依然不為難主委啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7058.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
主委心裡應該有答案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7061.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
都是反對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7063.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7065.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
都是反對降級的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7067.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
那為什麼反對降級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7068.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
因為大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7069.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7070.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
當時政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7070.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7072.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
其實要把核安會降級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7073.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
就是因為說2025要非核家園嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
反正核電廠都會關掉啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7078.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7079.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
所以核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7080.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
不要講核安會降級了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7081.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
有一天核安會沒有都無所謂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7085.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7086.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
啊就是那個邏輯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7087.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7089.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
可是現在政府要轉彎了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7090.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7092.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
非核家園省主牌要丟到垃圾桶啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7094 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7095 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
要重啟核電啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7095.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
我樂見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7097.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7098.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
我樂見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7099.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7102.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
也證實當時民進黨強推非核的錯誤嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7103.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
只是說這些問題到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7105.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
坦白講都是全民承擔啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7108.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7110.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
可是我就要問主委喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7111.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7113.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
本來民進黨非核家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7113.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7115.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
所以把核安會降級啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7116.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
坦白講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
依照非核家園這省主牌的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
我覺得可能還說得通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7122.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
只是他們撐不住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7125.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
轉彎了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7126.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7127.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
可是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7128.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7129.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
核電重啟啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7130.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7132.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
未來有更多新核能的相關發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7133.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7136.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
請問核安會的業務跟監督審查力大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7137.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7138.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
是不是都需要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7140.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7141.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7141.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7142.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
工作量是有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7142.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7144.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
當然啦一定的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7145.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7146.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
核電廠關關關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7146.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
跟核電廠全部要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7148.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
工作量怎麼會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7148.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7150.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
不會增加一點點我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7150.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7152.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
會增加很多吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7152.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7154.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
你光現在審查核電廠的那個重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7154.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7155.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
你有沒有增加業務負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7156.94 |
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7158.94 |
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對啊 |
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7159.39 |
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7160.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
所以呢 |
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7160.7 |
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7161.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
我覺得 |
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7162.24 |
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7164.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
過去為什麼我們講 |
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7164.24 |
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7165.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
園能會也好 |
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7165.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7166.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
核安會也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7167.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7168.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
是二級單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7168.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7169.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
於那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7169.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7173.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
核能作為我們重要的能源發展的機載電力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7174.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
所以那個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
核能安全又非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
所以需要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
足夠人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
足夠專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
來為核安把關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
園能會或者是核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7186.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
沒錯嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7186.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7188.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
可是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7188.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7189.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
我就要問啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7190.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7191.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
既然現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7193.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
又要重啟核電啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7194.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7196.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
神祖牌也不見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7199.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
那我想請問我們主委啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7199.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7200.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
你是不是認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7200.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7203.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
我們現在核安會應該恢復升格啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7205 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7207 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
如果升格的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7207 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7209 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
還要涉及行政院組織法等等啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7209 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7211 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
除非行政院組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7211 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7212 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
我知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7212 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7213 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
那修法問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7213 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7216 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
也不撈我們這個主委煩惱啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7216 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7219 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
我們是針對業務單位的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7219 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7221 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
如果業務單位有這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7221 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7223 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
國家發展有這個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7223 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7225 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
立法院就有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7225 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7229 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
來去支持我們該有的修法工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7230.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
我只問主委你覺得有這樣的需要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7233.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7235.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
目前啊說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7235.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7237.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
按照我們既有制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7237.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7241.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
我們還繼續做核安會的審查工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7241.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7242.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
好啦不為難你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7242.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7244.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
再次不為難你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7244.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7245.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
我要跟你講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7246.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7248.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
其實早在原能會時期過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7248.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7249.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
就有主委是反對降級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7249.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7250.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
而且我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7254.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
像美國日本韓國這些都重啟或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7254.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7256.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
研議核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7256.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7258.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
也都越來越重視核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7258.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7260.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
所以本席認為啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7260.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7262.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
真的是應該來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7262.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7265.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
研議好好來幫助核安會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7265.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7268.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
因為幫助核安會是幫助大家沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7268.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7269.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7269.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7271.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
是有委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7271.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7273.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
因為民進黨當初廢核也是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7273.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7274.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
怕核能不安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7274.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7276.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
這一點到底不能說是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7276.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7278.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
所以需要核安會有專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7278.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7280.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
有足夠的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7280.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
來去維持核電安全的專業機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7286.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
所以這一點核安會的角色跟重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7286.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7288.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
我覺得是與日俱增啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7289.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
那我就講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7290.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7291.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7291.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7293.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
降級到三級機構之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7293.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
委員會人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7294.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
本來是11人到15人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7296.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7297.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7297.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7298.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7299.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
現在委員是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7301.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
7人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7301.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
5到7人嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7303.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7303.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7304.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7309.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
人力資源規模各方面都在減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7309.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7311.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
那是因為因應非核家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7311.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7312.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
配合非核家園的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7312.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7315.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
那既然非核家園已經不再是神主牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7317.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
那我覺得本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7317.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7320.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
真的是應該要來重新思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7320.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7323.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
核安會的一個升級的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7323.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7325.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7325.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7327.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
我接下來想請教一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7328.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7329.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7330.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
我們不斷關注核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7334.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
也不斷要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7334.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7338.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
依法台電對於儲存在核電廠跟燃雨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7338.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7341.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
低放射性廢物有23萬多桶嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7341.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7342.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7342.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
他應該要選定最終處置廠子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7346.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7348.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
台電做的沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7349.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
台電現在有核禍端的專責機構的處理這方面的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7356.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
我跟你講沒有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7359.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
沒有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7361.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7362.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
牛緩慢叫客氣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7364.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
你這緩慢是慢到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7364.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7366.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
機業近於零啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7366.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7368.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
也許你有做紙上工作啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7368.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7370.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
核安會113年兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7370.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
114年三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7371.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
115年目前一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
三次都發函找台電開會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7377.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7378.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7378.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7382.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
要台電來推動低放的廠子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7384.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
那我要跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7387.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
那請問台電給你的回應是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7388.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
台電的回應其實是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7394.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
目前經濟部有成立專責機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7394.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7395.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
要來幫他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7395.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7397.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
我這句話給你翻白話好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7397.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7399.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
因為經濟部成立專責機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7399.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7401.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
叫做甩都不甩你核安會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7402.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
不是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7404.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7406.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
我看到立法院審查會議真不勝唏噓啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7406.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7409.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
我們過去在野黨針對所謂的非核家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7409.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7411.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
所問的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7411.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7413.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
擔心的事情全部都命中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
所以我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7417.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
這也跟核安會坦白講你降級也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
今天你一個三級機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7425.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
你怎麼去跟其他的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7425.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7426.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
來去距離力爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7426.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7428.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
來堅持我們核電的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
所以這是為什麼今天要特別來質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7431.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
來強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7432.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7435.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
民進黨過去的能源政策錯誤百出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
為了省主牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
把台灣的能源安全棄於不顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7441 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7444 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
所以當時連帶的把核安會降格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7444 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7445 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
降級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7445.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7447.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
但是既然現在迷途知返 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7447.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7448.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7448.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7452.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
願意轉彎改變能源政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7453.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7455.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
那同樣過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7455.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
因為錯誤能源政策所造成的錯誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7457.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7459.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
所謂的機關的改制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7459.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
也必須一併的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7463.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
把它補正啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7463.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
所以核安會的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
我認為是會越來越重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
我覺得也辛苦核安會的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7471.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
你們未來角色是越來越重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7471.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
所以這次也是希望我們核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7476.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
來繼續來繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7476.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7478.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7479.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
好謝謝羅志強委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7496.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7498.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
接下來請吳立華召委質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7499.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7501.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7501.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7511.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7511.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7512.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7515.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
我們在去年5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7516.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7517.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
我們修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7517.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7519.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
修了核管法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7519.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
那也等同呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
把過去非核家園這樣的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7525.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7528.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
被迫重新開門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7528.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7530.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
重啟核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7531.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7534.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
那面對這樣的一個修法結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7534.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
看到核三廠這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
你們核安會也開始在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7543.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
審查運轉執照換發的說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7544.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
我們大家好幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
委員都有提到4月28日那場說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7553.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
那我不知道說下一場預定在什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7556.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7557.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7557.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7559.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
那個再運轉計畫現在還在審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7559.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7560.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
所以要等到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7560.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7562.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
按照規劃就是審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7563.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7564.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
那好幾位委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7564.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7567.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
也針對4月28日這場說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7567.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7570.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
有幫各位來做一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7570.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7572.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
檢討就是希望改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7572.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7575.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
改進就是希望下一次呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7575.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7578.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
能夠聽到比較少的民怨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7578.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7579.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
那各位也都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7579.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
其實民怨很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7583.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
他就是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7583.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7584.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7584.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7586.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7586.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7587.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7587.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7588.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7588.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7590.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7590.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7591.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
我們要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7591.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
他就是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7593.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7593.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
怎麼有的人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7595.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7595.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7596.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
怎麼有的人被邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7596.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7597.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
我沒有被邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7597.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7599.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
啊民怨就是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7599.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7602.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
為什麼不配合我方便的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7602.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7606.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
偏偏要找我那個很不方便的時間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7606.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7607.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7607.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7611.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
那一天好幾個單位專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7611.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7613.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
例如地球公民基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7613.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
主婦聯盟黃靖保護基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7619.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
又或者是像中山大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7619.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7621.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
研究能源的教授等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7621.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7623.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
他們指出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7623.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7625.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
這個需要反省檢討的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7625.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7628.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
其實非常的一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7628.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
一致什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7629.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7630.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
就是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7630.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7631.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
業術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7633.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7634.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7634.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7635.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
700多頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7635.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7636.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
708頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7636.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
另外一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
內容很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
都是專業的術語 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
所以一整個感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
包括民怨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
其實就代表著三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7649.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
感受就是不友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7649.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
當我們在做說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
就是要來進行溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7655.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
所以我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7655.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7657.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
像上次我有提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7657.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
不要只有邀請恆春滿洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
邀請牡丹車程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7663.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
這個有改進了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7663.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
但是今天講的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
我們是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
能夠再一次的改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
包括事前意見的彙整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
這個也非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7675.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
你才能夠去準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7675.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7678.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
所以我在這邊想要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7678.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7680.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
那個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7680.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7681.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
和安會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7681.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7683.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
有沒有自己專屬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7684.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
網站或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
我講的不是網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7689.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
我講的是那個粉絲專頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7690.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7692.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
臉書有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7692.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7693.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7693.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7695.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
例如叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7695.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
服務小站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7697.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7699.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
好 和安會的服務小站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7700.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
那另外還有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7704.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7704.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7706.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
我看你們還有國家原子能科技研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7708.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7709.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7710.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7712.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
和安會監督的一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7712.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7713.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7713.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7715.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
那一天4月28日說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7715.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7716.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
有沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7718.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
這個單位有沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7721.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7722.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7723.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
有還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7723.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7724.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7724.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7725.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
沒有的原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
不相干 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7729.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
他是行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7731.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
這個會是由和安會自己來主辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
我有特別進去看你們這兩個臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
那我特別去看說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
4月28日的資訊有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7745.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
開完了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7747.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
有沒有相關的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
也沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7751.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
所以我們的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7753.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7755.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7758.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
社會的溝通我們不斷的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7758.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
和安 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7759.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
社會的溝通非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7762.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
所以我在這邊再增加一個提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我甚至覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7768.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7770.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
你們可以把這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7770.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
很難讀懂的這些專業的報告術語 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7778.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
為什麼不要製作短影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7779.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7780.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
不一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7780.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7783.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
不僅是放在你們的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7783.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7786.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
你們可以去轉發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7786.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7788.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
給在地的群組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7788.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7790.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
這個都是一個很好的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7790.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7792.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7793.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7794.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
我講的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7794.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7795.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
下一次會改進嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7795.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7796.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7796.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
我也作為滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
這是我們重點要改進的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我真的覺得你們要多做一點短影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7803.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
趕快發一發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7803.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7805.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
因為這是一個社會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7805.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
非常好的管道可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
所以在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
我只是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7811.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7813.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
地方的一個參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7813.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7817.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
不是我們所謂的去政策宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7817.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
我希望這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7822.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
一定要確保安全的對話空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7822.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
然後你們提供出來的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7827.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
一定要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7827.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7832.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
但是公開還要有不同意見的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7832.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
決策的理由的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
所以我希望重啟核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
它不僅是技術的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7842.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
也是一種民主治理的展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7842.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7844.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
所以在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7844.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7846.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
希望我們能夠破除 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7846.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
這種所謂的不友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7848.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
所謂的黑箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7848.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7850.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7850.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7851.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7851.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
另外我還關心一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7856.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
既然我們已經就三讀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7856.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7858.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
我們就開啟了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7858.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7859.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
把門已經打開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7859.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
本來要非核家園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7862.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
我們重啟核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7865.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
我們還是要談一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7865.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7866.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
回去談一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7866.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7870.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
就是核子損害賠償法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7870.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7872.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
核子損害賠償法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7872.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
我知道的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7873.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7875.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
這是民國60年發布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7876.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
最近一次的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7880.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
是在民國86年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7881.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7882.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
1997 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7882.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7885.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
那民國105年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7885.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7888.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
也就是這個21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7892.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
2116年行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7892.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
曾經也有提出過修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7896.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
想請教一下主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7896.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7898.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
這個105年行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7898.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
曾經提出過的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7902.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
主要是關心什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7903.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7904.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7905.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7908.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
我們覺得這是需要修正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7908.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7910.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
我們會調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
檢討免責事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
提升損害賠償的責任金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
以及延長請求全時效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
這三大方向來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
依照國際公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
來做未來修法的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7926.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7926.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
現在115距離你們上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
想要修又10年對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7932.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7932.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
我知道的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7936.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
民國60年第一次發布的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7936.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7938.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
這個事故的賠償 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7937.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7939.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
上限是7000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7940.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7941.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
所以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7941.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
1997年民國86年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7944.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7947.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
有修正過改為42億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7947.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7949.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
那105年我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7949.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7951.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
你們的修正條文是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7951.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7953.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
但是現在是115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7953.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7955.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
你覺得要怎麼修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7955.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
我們現在還在計較之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
會比上的42億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7960.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7962.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
福利會增加很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7962.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
那我們來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7964.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7966.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
河島的福災 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7966.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
他截至目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
他賠出去的金額是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7972.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
台幣5.22兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7973.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7975.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
我們還在那邊一直吵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7975.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7977.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
黨軍購1.25兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7977.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7979.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
多可怕多多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7979.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7981.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
會妨害民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7981.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7983.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
妨害很多國家的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7983.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7985.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
福島核災截至目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7985.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7989.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
已經賠償5.22兆台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
所以您覺得如何? |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
是 我們上次的電腦數目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
是 我現在來說是偏低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7998.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
所以一定會大幅提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7998.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
8002.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
好 那日本 德國 瑞士 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
8002.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
8003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
您說大幅提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
8003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
8005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
人家是無上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
8006.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
8008.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
賠到滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
8010.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
8012.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
那我們可以符合這個目標嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
8014.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
8016.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
一起來看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
8017.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
8019.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
現在很多國家的規則都這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
8019.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
8020.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
有的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
8020.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
8022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
就不夠部分的由國家來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
8022.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
8024.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
所以我們沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
8024.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
8026.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
像日本 德國 瑞士無上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
8026.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
8027.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我們是有上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
8027.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
8029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
他們是無上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
8029.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
8031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
好 那我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
8031.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
8032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
你看這個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
8032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
8035.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
美國5216億台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
8035.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
8037.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
芬蘭 我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
8037.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
8040.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
現在這個高階的核廢料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
8040.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
8043.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
芬蘭應該是全世界唯一有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
8043.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
8046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
它是406億賠償上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
8046.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8049.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
英國385億台幣賠償上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8049.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8051.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
所以我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8051.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8055.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
我希望說未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8055.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8057.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
像核培罰第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8057.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8058.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我們也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8059.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
國際武裝衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8063.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
我們知道這個是國際的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8063.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
免責啦 免罰啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8068.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
但是重大天然災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8069.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8070.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
過去是免罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8070.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8071.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
我們要不要休罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8073.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8074.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
你剛剛有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8074.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8076.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
重大天然災害要不要休罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8078.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8079.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
要的 要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8079.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8082.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
所以我們現在行政院是要休罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8082.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8085.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
因為已經像新版的巴黎公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8085.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8089.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
他們已經認為重大天然災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8089.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8091.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
應該是可以預防因應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8091.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
天災發生的範圍內 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8097.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
那我想這個部分該休 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8097.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
我們就休 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8101.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
我想現在大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8101.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8103.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
我們真的是希望非核啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8103.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8107.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
但是因為已經休罰三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8107.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8111.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
那我們也只能往這個方向前進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8111.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8113.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
但是我覺得該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8113.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8115.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
特別是核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8115.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8117.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
核安會面對戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8117.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8120.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
面對可能的天然災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8120.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8122.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
我想核安會子無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8122.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8124.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
那兩個禮拜內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8124.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8125.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
是不是可以讓我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8125.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8126.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
休罰的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8127.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8128.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8128.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8130.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
好 謝謝主委 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8130.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8131.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8135.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
謝謝吳立華 詹偉 執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8135.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8136.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
主委請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
接下來我們有請蔡春筹委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8162.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8163.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8163.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8164.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
有請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8164.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8165.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8173.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8174.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8174.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8175.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8175.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
今天我們要來審理核安會的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8183.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
那本席先請陳主委能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8183.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8185.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
對核安會我們必要的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8185.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
原則上我一定是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8192.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
但每一筆預算都是人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8192.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8196.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
那本席有責任監督預算的一個編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8196.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8201.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
是能夠嚴密的執行各項的一個安全管制的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8201.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8205.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
並持續的深化國際合作的一個關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8205.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8209.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
推動科普教育及人才的一個培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8209.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8213.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
然後能夠落實知性透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8213.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8217.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
以及有效的一個民眾溝通的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8217.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8221.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
所以呢 我要請問主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8221.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8224.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
在核安會今年編列了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8224.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8229.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
465萬的一個核電廠運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8229.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8233.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
跟除役安全管制的一個相關計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8233.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8237.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
那核電廠無論是進入除役的一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8237.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8241.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
或者是面對近期各界關切的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8241.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8243.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
研議的一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8243.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8244.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
那安全呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8244.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8246.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
永遠是最高的一個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8246.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8249.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
那我最特別關心的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8249.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8252.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
核安會本身為監理機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8252.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
那如何來落實獨立的一個驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
而不僅僅是書面的一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8263.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
台電的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8263.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8264.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
請問主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8266.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8267.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8268.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8269.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8269.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8271.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
台電公司依法提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8271.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
除役或者是再運轉的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8275.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
送到會裡面來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8275.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
核安會就是依照法規跟審查導責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
來進行專業的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8283.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
那委員所關心的事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8283.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8285.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
不管是除役或者是再運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8285.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8287.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
會裡面除了法規之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8287.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
我們也有參考國際的相關經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8293.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
那也考量到國內的管制實務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8293.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8295.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
然後去會編成管制的要項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8295.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8297.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
來進行專業的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8297.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8299.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
確保各方面的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8299.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
可以維持審查的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
8304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
跟審查的周詳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
那能不能就是針對這個獨立驗證方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
這些具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8313.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
而且能夠充分的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8320.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
跟國際安全標準同步的評估技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8320.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
能夠舉例說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8323.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8325.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8325.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8327.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
比如說那個耐震這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8327.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8330.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那核安會也透過研究計畫委託學界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8330.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8334.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
來幫我們收集國外的先進的一些專業技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8334.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8339.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
那這部分除了可以加強核安會的專業審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8339.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8343.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
那在台電公司送審耐震報告的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8343.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
核安會就可以去更精準的去掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8349.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
台電公司是不是符合國際的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8349.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8350.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
以上說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8350.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
我們希望能夠在更積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
跟國際上能夠都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8359.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
在安全上都能夠接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8359.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8362.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
那麼再來我們面臨的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8362.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8364.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
我們現在廠商各部會常常在談到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8364.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8366.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
極端氣候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8366.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8369.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
會威脅到一個電廠運作跟安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8369.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
那但只要增強對核電廠的一個管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
就能夠正確的一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
都有一個回應的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8379.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
讓核能能夠在對抗氣候變遷中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8379.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8381.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
一個能源政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8381.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8384.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
具有相關的一個關鍵的一個地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8384.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8387.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
那面對極端氣候的一個常態化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8387.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
全球核能安全的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8393.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
已經將極端氣候納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8393.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
換照還有安全要求當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8398.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
那請問主委現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8398.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8402.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
有核安檢查是否能夠充分評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8402.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8403.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
氣候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8403.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8407.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
極端氣候造成複合式的一個災難的一個風險嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8407.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8410.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
有做這樣的一個配套評估嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8412.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
跟委員說明就是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8417.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
核電廠內的這個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8417.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8419.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
都有把就是每三年都會進行一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8419.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
然後都有把就是因為因應委員所關心的這種極端氣候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
所以他們像緊急應變計畫區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
或者是民眾的防護行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8429.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
他每三年都會做一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8429.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
然後把這些複合式災害的一些風險情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8435.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
納進來去做前世的一些分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8435.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8436.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8437.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8437.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
那我們也也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8440.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
剛剛所講的這些評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8442.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
能夠做到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
讓那個氣候變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8447.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8451.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
我們能夠針對這樣的一個防範 |
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8451.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8454.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
然後做到達到真正的一個社會韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8454.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
所以呢本席要求核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8458.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
一定要建立一套更透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8458.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
更具體力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
更具獨立性的一個監理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
還有強化對於極端氣候造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8468.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8470.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
一個複合型的一個災難的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8470.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
那再來呢我還要再繼續下一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8477.88 |
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就是核安會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8481.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
身為原子能的一個業務主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8481.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8486.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
所付核能跟輻射安全是天職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8486.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8487.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
當然了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8487.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8491.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
安全不僅與在於一個技術的數據的堆疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8491.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
那更要能夠獲得社會大眾的一個信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
那剛剛我們有很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8500.27 |
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8501.27 |
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都非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8501.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8504.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
有關於就是社區民眾的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8504.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
對於這樣核安的一個參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8511.27 |
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我們都很多委員都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
那公眾參與跟民眾溝通的相關預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8518.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
我認為核安會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8518.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8522.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
目前表現能有很大的一個改進的一個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8522.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8524.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
不能夠主做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8524.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8526.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
只有做單上的先保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8526.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
必須能夠做轉向雙向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8535.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
那剛剛我們很多委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8535.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8538.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
也都針對一些說明會來做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8538.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
那我個人認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8542.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
我們不要一向的單向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8542.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8543.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
由上而下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8543.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8546.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
應該是由下而上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8546.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8548.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
讓公民參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8548.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8551.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
然後讓這些居民對地方的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8551.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8553.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
相對的認同以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8553.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8557.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
對於那個核電廠一樣也就來認同了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8557.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8559.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
所以呢我們在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8559.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8560.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我想要問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8560.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8563.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
像我們4月的時候所舉辦的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8563.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8565.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
那個公開說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8565.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
到底你們呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
收集了多少民眾的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8569.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
然後這些意見呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8569.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8573.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
最後又有多少一個被正式採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8573.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8575.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
對於民眾的一個疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8575.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8579.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
核安會是否有完整的一個回復追蹤機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8580.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
跟委員說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8585.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
在4月28號大部分委員還是提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8585.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8587.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
核電廠運轉的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8587.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
核廢料以及緊急應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
包括速散道路等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8594.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
那這部分我們都已經彙整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8594.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8595.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
彙整好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8595.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8598.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
那也已經請相關的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8598.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
來提出回應說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8603.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
那回應完之後我們會再次彙整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8603.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8606.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
彙整完我們就會公佈在核安會的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8606.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
另外一部分就是針對這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8609.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8611.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
民眾公眾所提出的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8611.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
我們再會去檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
核安會所提出來的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
然後進行交叉比對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8620.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
我們也會納入我們的審查意見裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8620.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8623.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
來要求台電公司進行回應說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8623.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
好我們一定要來尊重我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
地方居民的一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
畢竟他們才知道他們真正需要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
然後他們的風險在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
所以我們希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
這些說起之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
能夠做一個回覆的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
那核安會在進行預算溝通的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
有沒有提供詳細的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8653.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
媒體先導的一個名氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8653.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8655.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
然後來說明你們如何評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8655.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
這些先導的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
那如果你們只拿到媒體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
瀏覽次數或是曝光度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
當作績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
那我覺得這樣做是還不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
我要求核安會要建立一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
客觀的一個平衡指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
然後例如民眾對於輻射知識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
一個正確的認知的一個提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
還有參議者的一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
對政策的疑慮能夠具體減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8683.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
那剛剛我們吳釗為他也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8689.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
有很多事之後是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8691.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
你講的都不夠白話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8693.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
那很多民眾都聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8695.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
看不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8697.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
然後在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8697.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8699.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
你們又要如何來做一個改善呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8701.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8702.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8702.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8703.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
我們非常了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8703.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8706.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
委員非常關心整個宣導溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8706.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8707.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
不能只有單向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8707.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8708.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
一定要雙向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8708.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8711.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
當然除了這些專業的審查之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8711.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8714.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我們平常我們有辦科普展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8714.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8716.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
就是我們到各個縣市去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8716.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8719.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
然後直接面對面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8719.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8721.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
由我們這些專家直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8721.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8724.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
面對面跟民眾溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8724.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
我們也希望說直接拿到這個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8730.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
那個民眾對核安會的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8730.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8732.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
也希望我們這些專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8732.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8734.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
能夠用更白話的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8734.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
跟民眾溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
我想這我們會繼續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8738.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8738.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
那剛剛說明了這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8742.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
有這麼多的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8742.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8746.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
到全台灣各個地方來做一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8746.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8748.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
那這個宣導就一定要到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8748.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8750.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
如果說你宣導不到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8750.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8752.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
民眾很多都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8752.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8753.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
來的人不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8753.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
那也等於就是說浪費掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8756.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
這個我想需要就是一定要掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
好那最後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8763.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
就請核安會一定要記住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8763.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8767.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
新任的一個建立來自於對話的一個誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8767.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8769.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
那本是要求核安會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8769.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
必須要提出具體的一個資訊公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
改善的一個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8777.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
讓複雜的核安監理書記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8777.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8780.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
還有廢棄物的管制的一個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8780.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8783.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
轉化為簡單的一檔的圖卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8783.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8786.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
或者是比較用詞比較白話的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8786.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8788.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
剛剛我講白話的一個信息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8788.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8790.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
能夠安全營火的知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8790.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8792.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
是公眾的一個潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8792.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8794.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
所以在這裡不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8794.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8796.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
剛剛我們所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8796.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8798.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
不是實驗室裡面的一個數據的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8798.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8801.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
而是要讓全民都能夠來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8801.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8803.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
也能夠來投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8803.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8805.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
以上跟大家交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8808.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8811.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
好謝謝蔡村重委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8811.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8812.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8812.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8816.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
下一位我們有請陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8817.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8818.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8818.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
稍後在陳秀寶委員詢答完畢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8823.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
我們休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8824.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
請核安會陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8828.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8834.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8835.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8835.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8836.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8836.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8839.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
首先我們先就核能廠的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8839.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
我們來進行相關的尋討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
去年三月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
核三廠有發生火警 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
那所幸當時沒有造成任何的災情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8852.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
當時有調查了起火的原因是廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8852.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8855.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
他在切割這個鐵材的這個火花 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8855.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8857.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
引燃了旁邊的塑膠物品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8857.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8859.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
那才過一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8859.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8861.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
核二廠又發生火警 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8861.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
主委請問一下這次核二廠的火警 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
起火的原因你們調查出來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8868.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8873.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
跟委員說明初步是因為這個陷入絕緣劣化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8874.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8875.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8875.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8877.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
確切的原因那個消防單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8877.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8878.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
還在調查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8878.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8880.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
他們會做火調就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8881.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8884.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
核電廠接連發生火警的意外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8884.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8888.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
核安會你們有沒有要求台電業檢討他們的疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8889.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8893.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
跟委員說明確實從去年3月6號跟今年5月14號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8893.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8894.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
雖然地點不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8894.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8898.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
那我們已經要求台電公司針對核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8898.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8902.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
包括核一二三廠的全廠的防護範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8902.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8904.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
跟改善措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8904.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8905.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
或者是他的因應措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8905.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8907.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
要提出一個完整的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8907.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8909.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
所以你們有要求台電要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8910.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8912.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
核電廠連年發生這個火警意外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8912.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8914.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
其實會讓民眾覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8914.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8916.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
核電的安全會有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8916.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8918.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
他們會覺得說為什麼核電廠會失火 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8918.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8919.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8919.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
失火的原因跟我們這個核電機組本身是沒有關係的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8926.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
但是在核電廠發生這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8926.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
就會讓民眾有這樣子高度的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8932.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
雖然說我們現在核電機組目前是沒有在運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8932.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8934.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
但是我們核電廠裡面還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8934.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8937.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
高階的核廢料以及使用過的這些燃料棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8937.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8939.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
所以安全是不能輕忽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8939.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8941.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
我希望說核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8941.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8943.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
我希望你們可以提供你們檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8943.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8946.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
安全環境防護的這個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8946.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8949.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
全面來檢視核電廠廠區的這個安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8949.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8950.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
這可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8950.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8951.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8951.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8952.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8952.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
提供這樣的報告給委員會的每一個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8955.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8955.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8957.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
好 那多久可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8959.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8961.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8961.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8962.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
好 接下來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8962.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8963.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
我想要請教主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8963.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8966.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
近期這個牙醫公會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8966.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8972.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
正在爭取放寬手持式的這個牙科X光機的法規限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8972.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8976.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
希望可以免除必須設置專屬X光式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8976.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
這個來執行這個X光檢查的這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8980.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
會有這樣子的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8980.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8984.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
主要說現在有一些比較特殊的醫療需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8984.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8985.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
像長照機構啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8985.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
偏鄉巡迴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8990.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
還是居家這種到宅的醫療需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8990.01 |
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8993.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
還有一些身心障礙的這樣的病患的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8993.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8995.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
那長者可能移動不便 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8995.01 |
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8996.01 |
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那偏鄉呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8996.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8999.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
你不可能在偏鄉這邊有這樣子的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8999.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
9003.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
那有一些像身心障礙這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
9003.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
9005.01 |
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有一些相關的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
9005.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
9006.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
如果說我們在移動的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
9006.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
9008.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
也是有一些風險產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
9008.01 |
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9011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
所以牙醫師他們這邊也提供了說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
9011.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
9016.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
目前國際上使用手持式的這個X光機的這個輻射量呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
9016.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
9019.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
他們評估起來是遠低於每個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
9019.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
9021.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
每年自然背景輻射量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
9021.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
9024.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
他們覺得這個是相對安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
9024.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
9026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
那我想請教主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
9026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
9030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
你們目前核安會對針對開放這種牙醫師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
9030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
9032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
所要求申請的這個手持式的X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
9032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
9033.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
你們有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
9034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
9035.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
9036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
9037.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
9038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
9043.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
核安會對所有的管制都是滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
9043.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
9045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
而且因為科技進步等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
9045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
9048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
會讓某些風險會一直往下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
9048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
9050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
所以我們也會滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
9050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
9052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
跟國際標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
9052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
9057.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
像IAA、ITRP、IAA國際原能組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
9057.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
9059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
他們標準要一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
9059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
9063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
我們已經研定相關的防的準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
9063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
9066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
請牙醫師公會在審閱之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
9066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
9069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
或許還會跟衛福部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
9069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
9072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
和漁戰士申請申辦之身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
9072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
9075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
實質協助醫療機構加速申請的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
9075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
9078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
所以我們會一直做改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
9078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
9080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
所以不要說偏鄉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
9080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
9083.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
那些我們都會與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
9084.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
9088.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
因為在牙科的這個診療當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
9088.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
9092.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
其實牙醫師他們在使用X光機來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
9092.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
9097.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
即使說我們在我們巡迴的醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
9097.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
9100.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
或是說我們在社區這樣子的醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
9100.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
9103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
他可能沒有辦法在那個時候進行拔牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
9103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
9105.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
但是如果有X光機的檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
9105.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
9107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
至少可以早期的及早來判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
9107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
9111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
他做根管治療還是做拔牙這個需求性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
9111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
9113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
再來安排病人來做相關的治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
9113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
9115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
但是本席在這邊我也要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
9115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
9118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
我是尊重我們核安會的專業評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
9118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
9120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
剛才主委您也說到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
9120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
9123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
這個要跟衛福部來討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
9123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
9128.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
希望說你們在這個整個的這個申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
9128.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
9133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
跟我們安全民眾安全及操作X光機人員的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
9133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
9135.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
這個都也要注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
9135.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
9137.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
畢竟他操作這樣的機器的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
9137.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
9140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
對他本身這個輻射這個接受量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
9140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
9144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
還有說相關周邊人員這個都要考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
9144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
9147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
所以我希望說我們要經過很嚴謹的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
9147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
9151.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
包括跟衛福部來討論相關的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
9151.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
9153.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
儀器使用這個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
9153.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
9157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
我們才能兼顧並換民眾及操作人員的健康權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
9157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
9158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
9159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
9162.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
所以這個部分就請你們後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
9162.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
9163.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
針對這個部分的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
9163.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
9165.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
如果有相關的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
9165.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
9167.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
也希望一份報告給我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
9167.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
9168.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
好的 謝謝主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
9168.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
9173.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
接下來我還要請教關於就是核工人才培育的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
9173.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
9175.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
那上一次核安會這邊有表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
9175.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
9178.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
就是說你們有向教育部爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
9178.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
9180.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
這個工費流考的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
9180.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
9184.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
有新增了這個核子工程項目這個部分之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
9184.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
9186.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
內政部也有預告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
9186.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
9190.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
規劃國籍是高級專業人才認定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
9190.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
9194.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
那今天核安會建議你們有新增了這個核能的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
9194.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
9198.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
有感覺的出來說核安會針對這個育材染材 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
9198.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
9200.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
你們是有在想辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
9200.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
9202.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
這個部分我還是要肯定也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
9202.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
9205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
但是我們能不能做更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
9205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
9208.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
我們還有什麼可以去加強這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
9208.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
9210.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
目前除了上次你們問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
9210.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
9213.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
我有問到就是新增工費流考的項目呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
9213.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
9217.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
目前有的就是關於清大核公所呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
9217.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
9220.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
核安會現在有做內部培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
9220.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
9225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
針對同仁開這個受核能安全課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
9225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
9226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
9226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
9230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
那現在內部同仁對這個課程的報名的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
9230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
9232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
以及你們做這樣的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
9232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
9234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
你們的目標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
9234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
9236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
報名非常有月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
9236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
9238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
有40多位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
9238.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
9239.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
同仁報名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
9239.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
9241.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
他目標是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
9241.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
9247.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
能夠取得新華大學核子工程數學學位的學程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
9247.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
9249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
所以其實在我們內部對這樣的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
9249.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
9252.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
也是覺得說十分有這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
9252.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
9253.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
也是很踴躍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
9253.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
9256.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
那這個部分也是要肯定主委您的用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
9256.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
9258.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
在這邊我還是要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
9258.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
9260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
不管核電未來的走向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
9260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
9262.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
到底是存貨費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
9262.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
9265.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
或者說我們其他有其他的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
9265.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
9268.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
其實人才都是我們最重要的資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
9268.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
9272.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
尤其現在國際間對於整個核能的運用及研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
9272.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
9274.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
是非常的盛行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
9274.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
9280.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
所以相關的研究也十分的需要這些相關的合工人才來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
9280.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
9283.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
那有一點就是核能的薪資待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
9283.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
9287.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
我想會是人才留下一個意願的關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
9287.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
9289.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
我國的合工人才薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
9289.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
9292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
在國際間可能比較中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
9292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
9293.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
比較後斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
9293.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
9294.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
這個對於人才的延攬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
9294.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
9296.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
留任是有一定的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
9296.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
9300.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
希望核安會這邊你們可以很謹慎來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
9300.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
9304.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
而且一定要編列相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
9304.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
9305.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
人才培育的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
9305.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
9308.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
希望繼續來充實我國合工的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
9308.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
9311.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
這個部分主委您怎麼回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
9311.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
9313.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
對我們一直往這方面向走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
9313.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
9316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
事實上我們全力在做這方面的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
9316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
9320.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
因為我們確實有很多年沒有進入合工人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
9320.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
9323.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
都在核安會就有這種狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
9323.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
9327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
所以我們盡全力培養這方面的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
9327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
9329.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
從外面招考也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
9329.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
9330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
從內部培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
9330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
9334.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
就全力增加這方面的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
9336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
9339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
核安會不是只為了核電而存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
9339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
9342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
核安會所管的相關的核能的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
9342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
9343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
核能的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
9343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
9345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
還有剛才我提到像X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
9345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
9348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
這個安全上使用上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
9348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
9350.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
這個都是核能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
9350.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
9353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
相關的這些都是核能的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
9353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
都是我們核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
你們有這樣子的專業來規範它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
而且相關的這個合工人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9365.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
未來對於國際上的這個發展趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9365.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9367.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
所以要跟得上腳步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9367.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
我們也要相關我們這樣的人才的儲備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
來因應未來世界的潮流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
所以這個部分我請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
也請我們核安會能夠持續的來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
謝謝主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9381.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
謝謝秀寶委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9385.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9385.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9387.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
我們現在休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9406.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9409.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9491.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9493.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9492.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9493.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9493.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9494.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9494.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9495.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9495.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9496.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9496.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9497.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9497.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9498.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9498.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9499.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9499.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9500.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9500.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9501.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9501.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9502.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
請進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9692.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9695.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
我們現在繼續詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9696.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9698.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
下一位有請中嘉賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9698.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9699.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
中嘉賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9699.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9701.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
中嘉賓委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
下一位有請葉元芝委員進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9722.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9723.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9723.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9724.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
我們要請核安會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9724.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9725.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9725.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9726.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
有請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9733.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
主委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9735.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我剛看到非常多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9740.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
在針對核安會所舉辦的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9740.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9742.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
屏東的地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9742.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9744.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
有給很多建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9744.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9745.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9745.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
我看主委也沒有辯駁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9746.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9749.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
主委感覺上好像都虛心的接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9749.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
因為很多委員批評說流於形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
那我覺得我在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9755.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
除了地方說明會之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9755.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9757.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
其實核安會應該要到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9757.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
應該要再加強對全國的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9763.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
因為現在感覺上賴總統已經要轉彎了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9763.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9765.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
本來是黨核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9765.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9767.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
在去年還叫大家投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9767.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
不要投核三演義公投 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9770.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
要大家投不同意票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9770.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9772.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
然後民進黨在修核管法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9772.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
一直在亂罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9774.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
那現在大家也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9774.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9776.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
我也沒有看到民進黨在亂罵了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9776.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9779.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
所謂顯然就是社會要朝向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9779.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
重啟核三的方向前進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9781.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9784.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
那可是重啟核三有一個很關鍵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9784.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9786.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
就是賴總統設定的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9786.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9789.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
就是除了核安無虞核廢有解之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9789.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9791.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
還有一個社會共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9791.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9793.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
但社會共識這件事情就是很抽象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9793.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9795.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
就什麼叫社會共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9795.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9796.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
那他的指標是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9796.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9797.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
什麼評判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9797.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9798.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
這要做民調嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9798.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9801.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
還是要用什麼方式公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9801.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9803.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
然後做問卷還是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9803.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9805.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
什麼叫社會共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9805.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9808.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
所以這個社會共識這四個是非常抽象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9808.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
那社會共識也有可能會成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9812.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
未來核電可以重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9812.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9814.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
或不能重啟的關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9814.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9815.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
因為這非常抽象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9815.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9816.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
這個非常抽象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9816.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
沒有一定的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9820.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
那所以我覺得不管無論如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9820.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9822.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
核安會還是要針對這個事情做準備 |
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9822.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9826.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
那核安會如果覺得在主委的專業的判斷裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9826.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9830.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
你如果認為核電廠重啟是沒有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9830.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9832.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
我認為核安會從現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9832.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9834.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
除了去地方做說明會之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9834.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9835.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
你要跟全國做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9835.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9838.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
那當然你去每一個縣市辦說明會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9838.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9840.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
也許對你們來說負擔比較重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9840.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
但最起碼你可以加強媒體的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9844.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
或網路的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9844.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9846.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
可是我看到這一塊我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9847.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9848.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
比較弱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9848.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9850.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
我特別去看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9851.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
你們的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9858.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
那臉書的第一個它的效果很差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9858.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9859.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
我不敢說有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9859.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我都不想講有限很差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9861.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
因為你可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9861.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9864.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
主委你平常會去你們自己的核安會臉書去看嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9865.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9866.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
你們平常會看嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9866.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9868.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
你知道最近一篇發文是什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9875.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
所以核安這位這個網站的發文都是誰負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9877.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9880.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
報告委員是我們同仁至己當小編 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9880.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9881.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
小編直接發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9881.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9883.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
就是都不需要核安會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9883.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9884.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
我們這個主管有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9884.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9886.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
主管最高層級是到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9886.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9887.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
到組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9887.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
就是我有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9890.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
所以你知道最新一篇是什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9890.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
他在講那個αβγ |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9893.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9894.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
他有一張圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9894.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9896.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
我是不曉得為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9896.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
我們每天都會看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9897.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9900.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
政府機關對外溝通都要搞得好像學術發表一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9900.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
你的臉書是給專業人士看的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9903.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9905.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
還是希望給一般民眾看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9906.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9909.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
我們當然希望給一般民眾也能看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9909.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9911.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
那問題是如果給一般民眾看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9911.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9913.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
你的用詞潛質這麼專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9913.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9915.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
大家要怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9915.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9917.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
你當然要把它變成類似科普 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9917.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9920.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
或是用比較白話的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9920.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9921.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9921.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9923.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
這個我們會繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9923.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9925.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
因為確實比較尖色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9925.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9929.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
我們會盡量用白話的方式讓一般民眾都能夠接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9929.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9933.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
第一個就是你寫作的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9933.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9935.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
我覺得有很大的改進空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9935.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9937.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
所以你的成效很差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9937.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9939.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
比如說按讚數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9939.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9942.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
甚至於它的觸及率、流染數可能都不高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9942.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9945.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
第二個問題就是我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9945.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9949.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
像我自己就比較關心核電廠重啟社會共識的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9949.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9954.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
可是你們對於核電廠的部分其實著墨是很少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9954.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9955.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
像我是有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9955.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9958.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
比如說像你們4月8號有一個標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9958.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9960.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
叫核電廠內政安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9960.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9961.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
然後冒號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9961.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9963.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
科學實證專業監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9963.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9965.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
然後寫了三個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9965.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9968.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
第一個標準叫做原始設計基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9968.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9971.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
要讓它奠定穩固安全餘裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9971.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9973.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
第二個地震危害評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9973.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9975.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
要讓它滾動式科學再評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9975.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9977.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
第三個整體安全強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9977.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9979.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
要監督落實防護神奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9979.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9980.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
我跟你們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9980.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9982.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
我覺得你們有寫跟沒寫一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9982.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9984.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
所以你們是認為怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9988.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
現在你除了是薰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
就是不答說你會專業監督之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
你想要表達什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
比如說在這篇文上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
是 跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9998.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
因為這陣子再運轉的議題很夯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9998.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
10000.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
所以我們在4月10號那幾篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
10000.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
10003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
我們都會盡量用圖表的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
10003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
10005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
把我們的審查程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
10005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
10007.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
還有民眾關切的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
10007.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
10010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
我們盡量用圖表的方式呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
10010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
10013.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
有可能沒有這麼達到委員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
10013.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
10015.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
有圖表啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
10015.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
10017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
但是大家不太知道你到底想要表達什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
10017.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
10019.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
你是想要表達什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
10019.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
10020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
你是想要跟大家解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
10020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
10021.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
你們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
10023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
10025.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
在運轉計畫的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
10025.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
10026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
你們的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
10026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
10029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
還是你是想要告訴大家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
10029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
10030.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
其實是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
10030.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
10032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
然後那陣子都OK |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
10032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
10034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
你是想要表達什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
10034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
10035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
就是像我去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
10035.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
10037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
我會不知道你想要跟社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
10037.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
10038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
你想要跟社會大眾講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
10038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
10039.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
10039.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
10040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
10040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
10042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
我們那一篇主要是要表達說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
10042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
10044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
那些名詞到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
10045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
10046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
然後第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
10046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
10048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
我們的標準到底是要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
10048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
10050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
可以讓民眾放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
10050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
10052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
這個如果文字寫得不夠理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
10052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
10054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
我們會再努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
10054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
10056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
就是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
10056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
10057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
我覺得訴求要明確啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
10057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
10058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
就是你到底發這個文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
10058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
10060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
到底是要講什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
10060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
10061.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
這是第一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
10061.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
10063.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
第二件事我覺得篇幅太少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
10063.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
10064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
10064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
10067.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
如果說要朝向社會公司這個角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
10067.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
10069.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
其實你們可以多做一些啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
10069.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
10070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
當然那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
10071.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
10073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
我知道你們會扯到什麼預算什麼怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
10073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
10075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
因為之前好像也有討論過這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
10075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
10077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
但我也有跟大家建議過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
10077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
10079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
因為你這個都要採取一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
10080.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
10081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
打蛇水棍上的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
10081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
10083.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
因為現在社會很關注這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
10083.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
10085.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
所以你可以針對這個議題被討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
10085.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
10089.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
趕快利用話題然後去做宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
10089.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
10091.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
那就可以吸引大家來看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
10091.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
10092.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
對不對像上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
10092.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
10094.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
不是有一個民進黨的青年才俊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
10094.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
10097.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
現在要被民進黨提名選之下是議員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
10097.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
10098.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
他都不曉得啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
10098.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
10101.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
他以為說好像把瓶裝水放到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
10101.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
10104.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
那個蘭嶼的滴雞和肺尿的保管場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
10104.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
10105.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
然後就不能喝了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
10105.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
10107.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
有沒有然後後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
10107.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
10108.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
他還跑去國民黨踢館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
10108.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
10110.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
就被國民黨的青年軍一飲而盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
10110.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
10111.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
他還嚇一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
10111.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
10112.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
原來可以喝喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
10112.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
10114.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
你看一個要被提名直轄市議員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
10114.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
10116.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
執政黨的青年才俊優秀青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
10118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
10119.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
他不曉得耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
10119.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
10121.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
主委你不會覺得很誇張嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
10122.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
10125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
你覺得那個瓶裝水放到蘭嶼可以喝嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
10125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
10127.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
旁邊那儲存場旁邊放一個晚上可不可以喝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
10129.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
10131.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
就應該沒問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
10131.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
10133.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
沒問題可是執政黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
10133.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
10135.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
要選直轄市議員的人不曉得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
10135.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
10137.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
這就是一個很大的問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
10137.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
10140.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那像出現這件事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
10140.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
10141.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
你就可以趁這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
10142.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
10146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
跟大家講說這個其實放在蘭嶼儲存場旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
10146.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
10148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
是OK的因為我們有什麼保護措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
10148.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
10151.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
會讓那個地間核廢料輻射不至於跑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
10151.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
10154.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
或是輻射在一定的情況之下它是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
10154.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
10156.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
你就利用這個機會跟大家解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
10156.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
10158.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
因為跟大家攸關大家的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
10158.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
10161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
而且是熱門的話題大家就會去看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
10161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
10162.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
10162.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
10163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
類似這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
10163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
10166.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
對不對是不是更可以達到宣傳的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
10166.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
10169.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
然後再來就是這兩天也有個議題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
10170.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
10173.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
民進黨提名要選台北市長的這個沈伯洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
10173.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
10177.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
他就說要幫他回答解決電的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
10177.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
10181.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
其實回答一開始他的執行長黃仁勳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
10181.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
10183.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
就一直在講說要用核電要用核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
10183.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
10185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
為什麼因為產業界最怕缺電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
10185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
10187.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
那核電是最安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
10187.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
10189.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
那大家都要買那種沒有碳的電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
10190.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
10192.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
但是你不管是光電也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
10192.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
10193.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
或者是風電也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
10193.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
10194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
它不是積載的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
10194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
10196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
它供應不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
10197.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
10200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
核電又不會有碳又很穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
10200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
10202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
所以產業界都很希望有核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
10202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
10204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
這是回答黃仁勳講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
10204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
10206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
然後沈伯洋講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
10206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
10208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
對台北市要幫他回答解決電的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
10208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
10209.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
那後來被人家罵嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
10209.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
10211.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
就說你不是反對核電嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
10211.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
10212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
當時核管法你反對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
10212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
10213.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
也在亂罵啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
10213.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
10216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
然後那時候民進黨都是因為我們通過核管法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
10216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
10218.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
罷免我們啊大罷免大成功啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
10218.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
10220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
我是不知道主委那時候在院會有沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
10220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
10221.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
就是大罷免大成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
10221.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
10223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
結果現在用我們通過的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
10223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
10224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
現在要重啟核電了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
10224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
10225.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
那當然要批評他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
10225.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
10226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
當然要批評他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
10226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
10228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
然後他就舉了個例子說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
10228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
10229.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
接水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
10229.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
10231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
他說這個不同的層次問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
10231.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
10233.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
他講的是變電所電網啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
10233.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
10235.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
怎麼會跟核電有關啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
10235.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
10236.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
就像接水管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
10236.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
10237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
他叫人家接水管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
10237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
10239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
那你罵他反對水力發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
10239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
10240.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
這不一樣的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
10240.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
10243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
你今天如果沒有源頭的電的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
10243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
10245.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
你就算有電網也沒用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
10245.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
10247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
今天如果水資源不夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
10247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
10248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
你接水管也不會有水啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
10250.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
所以當然我覺得是不同層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
10250.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
但是相關的議題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
10254.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
那所以比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10254.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
10256.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
主委假設你們核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10256.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10259.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
你們是當然是站在核安的角度在處理這事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10259.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
10261.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
可是如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10261.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10262.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
你也是閣員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10262.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10264.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
你也是政府的議題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10264.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10266.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
你認為這個核電廠安全沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10266.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
而且可以解決缺電的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
那你你們也可以利用你們的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10271.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10273.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
或是各方面的宣傳管道告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10273.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
其實核電廠是沒有大家想像這麼恐怖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
不像那時候在討論核管法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
那時候很多謠言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
10280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10282.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
然後讓大家恐嚇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
10282.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10286.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
我覺得你們要適時的做一些利用這個機會做宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
10287.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10289.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
然後那你們這你們今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
10290.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10292.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
編的這個預算大概多少宣傳費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
10294.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10296.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10295.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
有關於這個核子能安全管制處理合費或 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10300.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
科學推廣的相關政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10300.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
業務的媒體宣傳製作脫鉑刊登經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
10304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10305.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
10306.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10308.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
是變多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10307.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10308.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
28萬日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
10309.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10311.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
那大概知道做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
10313 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10315 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
跟委員報告因為只有28萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10315 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10318 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
通常我們都會跟這個在一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
10318 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10320 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
看能廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
10320 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10322 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
然後介紹核安會到底在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
10322 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10324 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
讓人家能夠進一步認識核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10324 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10326 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
新任核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
10326 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10327 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
你把一個那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
10327 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10328 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
把你們這 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
10328 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10330 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
怎麼宣傳給我一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
10330 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10331 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
10331 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10332 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我來看一下你們的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
10332 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10334 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
不是說雖然28萬不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
10334 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10336 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
但也不是說有做就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
10336 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10337 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
感覺不是很重視這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
10337 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10338 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
有做就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
10338 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10339 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
我有貼文就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
10339 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10340 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
但是有沒有看不是我的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10340 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10343 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
我覺得既然要做就要達到宣傳效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
10343 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10344 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
另外就是科展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
10345.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10347.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
沒有辦那些科普的展嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10347.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10348.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10348.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10349.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
效果怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10349.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10351.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
因為我們是我們的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10351.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10353.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
直接面對面跟民眾溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10353.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10355.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
每次的效果都還算不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10356.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10357.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
不錯是怎麼判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10357.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10360.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
不錯是核安會覺得不錯還是大家覺得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10360.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
我們有請他填問卷調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10364.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
然後我們也會回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10364.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
我們會統計分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10368.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
然後當作下一次進一步的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10368.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10370.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
整個看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10370.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10372.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
民眾的反應都還不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10372.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
科展可以辦啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
我沒有意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
但我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
針對廣大的社會大眾作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10380.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
畢竟科展還是針對特定人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10380.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10381.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
要加強了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10382.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10383.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10383.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10384.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
因為這馬上就要面對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10384.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10385.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
如果你再運轉計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10385.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10388.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
比如說你你們說最快是2028嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10388.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
那時候馬上就要面對社會有沒有共識的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10392.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
這過程當中我覺得就要加強了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10392.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10394.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10394.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10396.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
謝謝葉雲之委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10396.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10398.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10398.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10401.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
下一位有請非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10401.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10403.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
高鐵故障誤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10403.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10405.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
現在平安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10405.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10407.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
抵達我們教育文化委員會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10407.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10409.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
羅廷瑋教委進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10413.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
好謝謝我們召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10419.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
非常感謝今天大誤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10419.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10421.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
我一大早就搭高鐵到現在才到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10422.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10424.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
感謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10424.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10426.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
我們有請主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10426.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10428.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10433.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10436.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
好那有建議非常感謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10436.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
所以第一題我要現在為偏鄉發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10441.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
那為什麼要這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10441.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10443.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
我覺得4月22日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10443.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
牙醫師全聯會有提出移動式的牙科 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10448.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
我們X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10448.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10450.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
現在面對這個牙科 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10450.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10454.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
我們的跟間X光機必須設置在獨立的X光室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10454.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
這兩個議題就繼續來就教主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
因為這個對於我們偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10461.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
在做這樣相關的治療 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10461.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10463.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
都非常非常的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10463.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10465.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
所以我認為這個議題是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10465.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10468.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
那因為上次時間來不及讓主委回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10468.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
那這個主委是不是可以先簡單回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10475.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
3月9日那天你跟牙醫師全聯會見面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10475.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10477.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
交換了哪些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10478.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10480.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
牙醫師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10480.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10482.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
他是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
第一在偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
能夠使用移動式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
手持的X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10491.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10493.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
第二他也希望在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
行動不便的特殊病人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
可以讓牙醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10501.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
持手持一式的X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10501.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10503.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
在診療室旁邊使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10503.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
10505.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
這些的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
10505.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
10506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
這是他們的訴求嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
10506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
10508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
其實我們一直不斷的在倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
10508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
那你的回應呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10512.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10512.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
核安會的立場是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
我們因為科技的進步等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
國際上的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10518.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
我們都會一直在做滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10522.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10524.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
然後我們會跟國際的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10524.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
像ICRP IAEA的管制原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10528.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10531.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
我們一直在做滾動式檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10531.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
確保醫護人員民眾的服飾安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10537.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
是這個我們都關切啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10537.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10539.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
我想核安會的核心立場喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10539.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10541.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
這個就是一般牙科間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10541.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10543.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
因為使用頻率高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10543.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
都會去人口密集 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
整間多為開放式空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10546.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10548.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
所以人以裝屬X光式來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10548.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10550.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
這樣子的一個屏蔽設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10550.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10553.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
但是福安的一個測試合格後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10553.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
才能夠使用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10557.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
但是作為常態的管制基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
10557.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
10559.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
同時核安會也承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
10559.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
10561.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
三類特殊的一個情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
10561.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
10563.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
需要例外的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
10563.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
10565.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
所以包括整間行動不便者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
10565.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
10568.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
可以用核移動式的X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
10568.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
10569.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
診療台師座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
10569.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
10571.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
居家醫療已經有指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
10571.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
10573.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
部分核准的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
10573.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
10576.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
偏鄉醫療人在研議定定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
10576.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
10577.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
我覺得這個密度啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
10577.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
10580.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
是不是更積極的來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
10580.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
10583.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
國際的一些組織對接了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
10583.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
10585.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
最後能夠來我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
10585.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
10587.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
研議這樣子的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
10587.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
10588.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
我想要替全國牙醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
10588.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
10590.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
反映一個很現實的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
10590.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
10592.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
第一線不是不要安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
10592.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
10594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
就像今天大霧點啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
10594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
10596.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
我們也不可能要求高鐵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
10596.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
10598.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
你趕快快一點不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
10598.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
10599.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
安全第一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
10599.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
10601.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
寧願慢到不要永遠不到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
10603.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
10606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
但現在的這些整間的人員也是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
10606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
10608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
他們不是不要安全啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
10608.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
10612.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
但是現在的制度設計常常讓有醫療需求的病人用不到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
10612.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
10615.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
適當的牙科X光的診斷啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
10615.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
10617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
核安會一再強調輻射的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
10617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
10618.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
這個方向我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
10618.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
10619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
但是問題在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
10619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
10623.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
現行管制是否已經跟上了整個實際醫療的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10623.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
10626.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
尤其高齡、失能、偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
10626.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
10630.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
以及居家醫療的一個巡迴服務的需要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
10630.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
10633.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
所以核安會也承認多元情境的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10633.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
10637.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
才可以例外開放的三種特殊情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10637.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
10638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
那可以有例外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
10641.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
但是整間的特殊需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
10641.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
可在整療台時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
10644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
10647.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
這樣子的外面使用這個移動式的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10649.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
10652.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
居家跟偏鄉未有推動多年都還是不普及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
10653.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
10656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
103年就有居家牙科醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
10659.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
我們的扶防的鋼藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10660.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10663.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
卻對現在尚無院所申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10664.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10665.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10665.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10670.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
114年在宅X光來做檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10670.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10673.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
已核准19家醫療院所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10673.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10676.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
請問主委為什麼103年的牙科X光機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10676.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
10681.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
居家醫療扶防鋼要零申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10682.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10684.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
這部分請張組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
那個跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
其實在跟牙醫全聯會有做一些交流的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
也有提到這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
10696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
那可能在我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10699.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
因為我們都有放在衛福部的一個網頁裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10699.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
那他們也希望我們能夠去加以宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
那以及把跟在宅的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
跟現在我們在推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10709.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
其他的在宅X光的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10709.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10712.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
這個胸腔的檢測能夠把它去一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10712.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10714.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
那這樣的話他們在推 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10714.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10716.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我們的一個推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10716.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
那這樣大家就可以有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10719.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
一個更進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10719.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
那我們後續就會朝這部分來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10723.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
好來我要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10723.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10725.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
如果制度設計合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10725.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
那就不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
怎麼會出現103年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
我們的鋼要零申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
104年另立機制的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10734.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
馬上19家就申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10734.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10736.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
這個落差馬上就出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
10736.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10737.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
同樣是安全的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10737.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10738.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
有的情境可以推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10738.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10740.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
有的情境13年來一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10740.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10741.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
都申請不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10741.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10743.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
所以對偏鄉的醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10743.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10744.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
和安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10744.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10746.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
現在人說正在研定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10746.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10749.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
對於社區醫療站巡迴醫療的這個扶房設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10749.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10751.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
我要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10751.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10753.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
偏鄉牙科資源不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10753.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10754.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
不是今天才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10754.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10756.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
為什麼要到現在還在研議的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10762.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
這邊因為我們其實我們在扶房法裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10762.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
有一個通則的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
其實不同的場域都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10768.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
但是他不是針對偏鄉醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10768.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
這種類似像剛剛講的社區醫療站跟巡迴店 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
那現在我們就是等於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10776.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
我們有配合衛福部在健保警務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10776.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
他有明定這兩個情境的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
使用規劃的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
所以我們現在就是變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
是轉而客製化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
然後我們會針對這個兩個來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
我希望還是要加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10793.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
第一線牙醫師願意下鄉願意進社區願意巡迴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10793.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10796.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
服務主管機關不能停在這樣子的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10796.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10798.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
偏鄉是缺法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10798.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10800.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
缺技術標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10800.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10802.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
缺跨部位整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10803.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10805.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
還是缺行政的決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10806.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10808.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
我們看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10808.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10810.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
不要再讓第一線的牙醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10810.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10811.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
明明是想服務病人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10811.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10813.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
卻卡在第一個用不到的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10813.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10816.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
偏鄉看牙卡了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10816.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
現在看清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10819.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
原來是制度入帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10819.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10823.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
還有在和安會現在目前需要再加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10824.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10826.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
以後還有機會跟衛福部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10838.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
只和一戰時的申辦諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10838.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
實施協助這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
真的要加油啦好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
好加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10844.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10844.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
今天要跟和安會聊一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10848.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
白化紋運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10848.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
沒想到要跟你聊這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
主委我知道非常有深度的核能概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10855.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
講成白化有它的難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10855.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
但是我希望白化紋運動還是可以好好努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10859.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
剛剛就有委員在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10859.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10862.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
到底要怎麼樣核知識能夠讓全民都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10862.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10866.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
央行從2019年推動白化紋運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10866.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10867.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
央行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10867.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10869.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
至今效果不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10869.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10871.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
中研院言之有誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10872.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10874.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
也做得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10874.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
為什麼要推白化紋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
我們來舉一個例子你聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10878.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10880.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
來央行說明看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10882.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
新台幣匯率有升有貶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10882.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
央行持有的外幣資產折合新台幣金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10890.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
就會有未實現的平價損益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10890.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10892.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
去年有匯損 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10892.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10894.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
但今年不但全數抵衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10894.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
還剩餘新台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10898.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10900.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
1364億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10900.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10903.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
未實現平價利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10903.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10905.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
請問主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
您覺得央行今年到底有沒有匯損 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10909.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10911.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
你看完這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10915.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
去年有匯損 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10916.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
今年沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10918.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
今年沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10921.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
但是您剛剛遲疑了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10922.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
您單看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10923.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10925.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
單聽字面你只會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10925.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10927.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
聽到的是未實現平價利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10927.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
全數抵衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10928.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10931.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
那這樣到底是有匯損還是沒有匯損 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10931.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我覺得對民眾來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10932.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
他在理解上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10934.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10935.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
你的專有名詞講完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10935.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10937.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
可能大家聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10937.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10939.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
所以才力求白化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10939.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10940.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
要推動白化紋運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10940.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10943.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
要讓大家每個人都看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10943.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10945.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
所以和安議題也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10945.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
比如和安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10947.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
你的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10948.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10949.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
有提到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
他之99M產生器 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10953.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10955.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
這是你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10955.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10957.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
的一個貼文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10959.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
這段話很難懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10960.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10962.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
一般民眾大概也不像主委那麼厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10963.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10964.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
但和安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10964.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10967.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
會想要把這些知識概念告訴國人的心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10967.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10968.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
我沒有感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10968.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10970.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
但是你把這個放上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10972.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10974.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
拜託我只是舉例而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10974.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10975.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
有類似的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10975.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10977.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
是不是能夠讓大家看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10978.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
你至少原文放上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10981.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10983.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
後面再一個標示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10983.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
一個簡單的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
這樣做得到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10987.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
請回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
我會努力往這方面向前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10991.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
我不是叫你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10991.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10993.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
這段文就不要貼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10993.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10995.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
沒有原文也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10995.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10997.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
但是後面是不是小編註解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10997.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10998.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
這個是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
11000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
11002.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
應該不困難吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
11002.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
11005.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
這個應該不用再特別還要再編預算吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
11006.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
11007.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
這也沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
11007.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
11009.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
我想白話的運動很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
11009.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
11010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
11010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
11012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
有時候我們想給民眾知道的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
11012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
11014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
民眾想知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
11014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
11016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
但是他沒辦法取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
11016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
11018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
那我可能還要再多一個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
11018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
11019.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
我要再把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
11019.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
11020.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
11020.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
11021.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
然後丟給AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
11021.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
11023.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
那為什麼你們不自己丟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
11024.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
11026.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
好不好這個部分真的拜託一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
11028.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
11030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
11030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
11032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
11032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
11034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
11033.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
11035.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
謝謝羅廷瑋召委的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
11035.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
11037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
請主委回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
11037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
11038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
11038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
11040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
王洪威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
11040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
11042.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
王洪威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
11042.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
11044.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
王洪威委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
11044 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
11045 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
11045 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
11046 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
11046 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
11047 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
11047 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
11049 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
洪孟凱委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
11051.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
11053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
今天登記質詢委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
11053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
11055.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
均已發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
11055.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
11056.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
11056.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
11060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
另有徐欣瑩委員提出書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
11060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
11062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
11062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
11064.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
請相關機關以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
11066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
11070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
我們繼續進行預算審查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
11071.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
11073.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
為利於討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
11073.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
11075.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
需準備協商場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
11076.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
11079.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
所以我們先休息10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
11079.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
11081.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
現在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
11188.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
11189.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
11527.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
11528.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
11683.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
11684.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
11686.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
11688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
辛苦大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
11688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
11691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
我們現在進行預算案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
11691.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
11694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
11694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
11697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
預算提案計113案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
11698.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
11700.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
基金預算提案計6案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
11702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
11707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
國家原子能科技研究院預算提案計12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
11707.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
11709.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
進行討論前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
11709.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
11712.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
先說明預算案的處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
11713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
11715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
委員所提預算提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
11715.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
11717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
稅入部分依來原別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
11717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
11719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
以下為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
11720.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
11722.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
稅出部分依機關別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
11722.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
11724.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
以幕或結為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
11724.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
11726.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
依序進行審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
11727.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
11731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
各預算案與處理委員所提之增三提案後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
11731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
11736.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
其餘未涉及之預算部分均與照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
11737.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
11740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
預算提案如改主決議或修正內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
11740.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
11742.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
請機關將修正內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
11742.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
11745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
經提案委員簽名同意後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
11745.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
11749.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
送交主席臺並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
11750.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
11755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
請參閱提案會整表及提案本進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
11755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
11759.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
請議事人員宣讀預算數及提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
11759.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
11761.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
並進行討論與協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
11761.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
11766.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
討論時如有新增或修正文字之主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
11766.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
11769.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
請議事人員一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
11774.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
11776.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
法定安全委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
11776.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
11778.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
介紹數順利部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
11778.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
11780.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
需要安排法案進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
11780.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
11781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
法案中所有人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
11781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
11783.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
請用一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
11783.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
11785.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
11785.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
11787.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
11787.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
11789.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
11789.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
11791.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
11791.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
11793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
11793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
11795.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
11796.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
11798.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
11798.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
11800.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
11800.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
11802.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
請請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
11804.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
11805.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
11805.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
11807.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
我們首先處理稅務的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
11807.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
11811.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
依款別以項為單位依序處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
11812.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
11814.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
現在進行第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
11814.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
11816.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
規費收入第十項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
11816.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
11818.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
11818.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
11821.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
提案暗號第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
11824.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
11826.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
11826.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
11827.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
11831.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
11833.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
好大家沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
11833.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
11835.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
好那我就來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
11835.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
11837.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
11841.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
11842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
11842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
規費收入第十項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11846.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11846.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
提案暗號第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11850.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11850.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
經費照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
繼續處理第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
財產收入第十七項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11860.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
提案暗號第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11863.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11865.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11865.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11867.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11866.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11868.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
那我來宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11870.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11872.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
第四款財產收入第十七項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11872.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11874.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11874.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11876.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
提案暗號第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11876.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11878.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
經費照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11878.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
繼續處理第七款其他收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
提案暗號第三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
有沒有提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11887.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
或其他委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11888.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11890.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11890.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11891.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11892.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11894.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
第七款其他收入第十七項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11894.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11898.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
提案暗號第三案審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11898.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11900.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
經費照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11902.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11904.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
好 稅入處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11904.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11906.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
繼續處理稅初提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11906.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11908.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
處理時以幕獲結為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11908.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11910.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
依序由各提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11910.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11912.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
先就提案內容進行說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11912.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11914.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
再由機關代表予以答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11914.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
然後再依幕獲結做成結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11918.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
現在處理稅初部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11918.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
第十二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11922.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
核能安全委員會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11922.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11923.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
通案部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11923.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11925.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
提案暗號第四案及第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11925.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11927.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
派員出國計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11927.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11929.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
含國外旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
有沒有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11932.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11934.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
對 四五六三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11934.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11936.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
好的 好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11936.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11937.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
我是第五案啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11937.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11938.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
但我目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11938.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11940.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
謝謝何安慧來跟我們做一個溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11940.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11942.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
但是要留下一個記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11942.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11944.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
我是願意把它改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11944.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
但是還是懇請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11948.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
目前來說你們的教育訓練費來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11948.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11950.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
是逐漸的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11950.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11953.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
所以呢 我想在核電重啟的原則之下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11953.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11956.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
我想這個人力我一向都非常重視它的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11956.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11958.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
那我想這個從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11958.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11960.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
核三重啟的審查團隊的組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11960.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
我覺得你們還是要仰賴非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11962.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11964.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
退休資深的員工來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11964.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11966.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
跟我今天的質詢上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11966.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11968.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
所以我想說這個訓練跟經驗的傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11968.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11969.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
是刻不容緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11969.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11971.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
所以我希望這個未來的當中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11971.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11973.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
有關於用不同的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11973.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11974.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
留財補足人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11974.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11976.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
然後建立長期培訓的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11976.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11978.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
我想這是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11978.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11980.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
所以我願意把它改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11980.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
謝謝 好 謝謝柯珍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11984.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
羅廷瑋召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11984.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11986.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11986.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
好 謝謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
那也非常感謝我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11992.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
核安會有來溝通啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11992.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
那我有幾個我就一併說明啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
簡單講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
那我自己是第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
69 17 22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
12001.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
我都改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
12001.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
12003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
那感謝核安會來對我說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
12003.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
12005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
那我也持續追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
12005.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
12007.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
12006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
12008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
好 謝謝羅章偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
12008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
12010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
還有沒有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
12010.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
12012.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
好 羅志強委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
12012.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
12014.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
好 那核安會有來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
12014.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
12017.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
但是我還是表明一下我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
12017.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
12019.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
那我之前質詢跟主委說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
12019.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
12021.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
非核家園的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
12021.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
12024.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
是讓學生不願意選擇核能專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
12024.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
12027.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
也造成核工人才斷層的危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
12027.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
12030.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
像這樣的一個所謂的非核十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
12030.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
12031.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
也就讓我們人才斷層十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
12031.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
12033.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
我必須很沉痛的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
12033.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
12034.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
因為我在政府服務過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
12034.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
12036.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
我非常清楚的知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
12036.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
12038.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
台電在發展核能的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
12038.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
12040.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
為我們國家留下非常多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
12040.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
12043.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
很棒優秀的核電的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
12043.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
12045.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
那也帶動了很多相關科系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
12045.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
12048.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
很多的優秀的青年願意投入相關科系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
12048.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
12052.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
但這一個所謂的非核家園的這十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
12052.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
12055.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
造成我們這十年的人才斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
12055.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
12056.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
這一點我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
12056.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
12058.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
也威脅到將來的核能安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
12058.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
12060.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
所以因此我們的提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
12060.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
12062.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
是特別是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
12062.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
12064.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
能夠讓相關單位能夠注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
12064.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
12066.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
認識到這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
12066.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
12068.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
這當然不只是核安會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
12068.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
12071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
跨部會都應該針對核工人才的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
12071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
12073.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
提出妥善的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
12073.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
12074.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
12074.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
12076.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
好 謝謝羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
12076.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
12078.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
12079.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
12083.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
沒有意見了我們需要請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
12083.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
12086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
核安會要不要做意見回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
12086.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
12087.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
沒有吼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
12087.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
12090.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
好 那大家如果沒有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
12090.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
12092.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
經費的部分是照列嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
12094.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
12096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
好 謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
12096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
12097.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
12097.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
12099.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
那我來宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
12099.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
12102.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
第十二項核能安全委員會及所屬通案部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
12102.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
12105.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
提案案號第四案及第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
12105.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
12107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
派員出國計畫含國外旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
12107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
12108.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
12108.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
12110.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
第六案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
12110.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
12112.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
其餘預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
12112.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
12113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
12115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
12117.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
好 五六 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
12117.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
12118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
12118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
12120.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
那沒關係 我就接著唸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
12120.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
12123.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
接著處理第十二項核能安全委員會及所屬通案部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
12123.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
12125.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
提案案號第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
12125.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
12126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
業務費下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
12126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
12127.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
教育訓練費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
12127.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
12129.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
那我直接宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
12129.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
12131.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
12131.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
12133.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
第五案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
12134.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
12135.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
12135.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
12138.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
接著處理第一幕一般行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
12138.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
12142.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
提案案號是第七案至第九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
12142.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
12145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
好 有沒有委員要來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
12147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
12150.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
好 那就那個了 我直接宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
12150.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
12154.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
好 第一幕一般行政提案案號第七案至第九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
12154.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
12155.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
12156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
12158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
第九案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
12158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
12159.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
其餘預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
12159.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
12160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
12160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
12164.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
接著處理第二幕原子能管理發展業務第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
12164.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
12166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
原子能科學發展提案案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
12166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
12169.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
第十案至第四十九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
12169.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
12170.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
有沒有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
12170.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
12172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
好 陳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
12172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
12174.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
好 蔡春筹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
12174.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
12176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
好 秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
12176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
12177.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
12179.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
12180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
12180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
12181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
我是第23案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
12181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
12184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
其實就是我今天早上在質詢的時候也說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
12184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
12187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
相關的地方說明會我們如何積極的告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
12187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
12190.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
然後積極的做相關專業知識的轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
12190.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
12193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
同時我們把地方居民的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
12193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
12196.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
更加積極的納入相關的委員會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
12196.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
12200.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
那不是只有那時候你們來預算所說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
12200.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
12204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
所以雖然我這邊是寫凍結預算50案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
12204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
12206.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
可是我可以並按處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
12206.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
12208.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
那我但是我真的還是要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
12208.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
12210.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
何安慧跟台電公司這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
12210.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
12212.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
去商議跟討論出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
12212.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
12214.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
更加積極的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
12214.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
12217.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
甚至還有相關民間團體的意見跟回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
12217.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
12219.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
我覺得這件事情非常非常重要 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
12220.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
12221.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
好 蔡正丞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
12222.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
12225.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
接下來是秀寶委員 柯正委員 郭育晴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
12227.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
12231.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
主席好 我針對事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
12235.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
12236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
12238.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
12240.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
針對24案來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
12240.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
12242.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
那24案因為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
12250.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
12251.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
12253.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
12256.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
剛剛我有質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
12256.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
12258.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
然後也有回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
12258.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
12261.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
所以這個我可以改主結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
12262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
12263.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
12272.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
12273.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
12274.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
12277.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
請何安慧能夠補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
12277.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
12279.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
115年度補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
12279.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
12281.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
國研業12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
12281.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
12285.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
國研業12項重要計畫清測 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
12285.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
12287.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
金額還有執行力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
12287.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
12290.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
KBI及里程碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
12290.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
12294.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
二是近年來行政查核發現切失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
12294.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
12298.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
能夠改善進度以及是否列入績效評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
12298.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
12301.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
追蹤三是設施維穎人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
12301.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
12304.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
人才流失還有計畫里程碑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
12304.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
12306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
自籌款目標等風險項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
12306.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
12309.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
那目前風險等級級管制措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
12309.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
12312.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
還有第四項補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
12312.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
12315.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
包覆以計畫執行力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
12315.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
12317.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
查核結果還有計效評鑑結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
12317.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
12319.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
一個連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
12319.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
12323.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
第五國研院支援核設施除役 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
12323.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
12326.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
核廢料輻射防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
12326.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
12330.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
還有SMR研究海域監測等任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
12330.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
12335.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
資濟題成果能夠合理的提供報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
12335.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
12337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
所以這一題就能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
12337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
12341.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
病案處理或者是改組結議都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
12341.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
12346.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
再來病案說明第45案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
12348.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
12349.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
45案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
12350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
12351.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
44案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
12354.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
12356.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
44案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
12357.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
12359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
12359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
12360.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
希望呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
12360.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
12362.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
核安會能夠補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
12362.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
12365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
115年8月起的使用執照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
12365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
12367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
是否仍然可以達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
12367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
12370.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
那第二第三劑設備硬抵後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
12370.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
12375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
安裝測試驗收還有收款時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
12375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
12378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
三國外廠商交貨遲延 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
12378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
12381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
品下違約經計算方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
12381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
12383.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
及目前處理情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
12383.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
12385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
是或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
12385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
12389.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
試驗期應用計畫是否可以送審或核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
12389.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
12390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
未來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
12390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
12395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
在合一藥物衛星半導體產學研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
12395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
12396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
等方面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
12396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
12400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
能夠使用力以及成果的一個KBI |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
12400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
12401.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
能夠做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
12401.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
12402.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
12402.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
12405.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
這個可以改成組結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
12407.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
12409.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
那45案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
12410.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
12413.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
希望能夠做一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
12413.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
12416.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
就是一海疫監測點位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
12416.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
12419.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
還有頻率樣品種類及重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
12419.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
12421.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
遺傳險定原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
12421.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
12426.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
二TWORIS資訊如何讓一般民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
12426.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
12429.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
移民地方政府看得懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
12429.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
12432.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
三紅綠燈異常警示的一個啟動標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
12432.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
12436.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
通報對象及後續處理的SOP |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
12436.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
12438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
是跨部會的一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
12438.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
12440.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
是小組是否能夠定期會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
12440.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
12442.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
會議結束是否公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
12442.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
12445.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
我們民眾跟移民對檢測結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
12445.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
12447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
有疑慮的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
12447.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
12451.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
是否有諮詢申訴後說明一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
12451.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
12453.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
那這個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
12455.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
12458.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
是其他的委員討論的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
12458.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
12461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
然後呢來並案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
12461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
12462.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
12463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
12465.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
好謝謝蔡處長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
12465.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
12466.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
接下來是秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
12468.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
12469.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
謝謝秀琪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
12469.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
12472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
在這一節裡面我的案子是第35案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
12472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
12474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
35案的部分呢這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
12474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
12477.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
這個預算主要是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
12478.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
12483.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
核安會補助國家原子能科技研究所的這個研究經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
12483.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
12488.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
那在115年度的經費呢比114年度增列的4億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
12488.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
12492.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
在我們核安會的這個年度預算比例高達七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
12492.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
12497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
那核國原會他這邊是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
12497.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
12499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
這個計畫主要是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
12500.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
12502.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
有一些計畫進度有落後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
12502.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
12504.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
執行進度有落後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
12505.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
12508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
相關的這些原子能科技的研發呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
12508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
12512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
不管是包含合一關鍵藥物的供應與精準醫學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
12512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
12514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
以及核子能技術應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
12514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
12518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
還有放射物質這個擴散與安全評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
12518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
12522.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
還有能源技術研發及淨零排放等相關這些計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
12522.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
12525.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
其實對我們的相關的技術呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
12525.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
12528.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
對我們相關的這些研究都非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
12528.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
12531.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
那執行計畫執行有落後的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
12531.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
12534.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
雖然核安會有來說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
12534.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
12537.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
有要求國原會這邊要改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
12537.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
12540.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
而且有訂定績效評鑑的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
12540.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
12543.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
來檢視計畫執行的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
12543.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
12545.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
那等一下我想請核安會這邊說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
12545.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
12548.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
目前落後的這些計畫有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
12548.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
12550.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
就是趕上這個規劃的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
12550.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
12552.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
請你們等一下說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
12552.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
12554.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
那這個我本來是提供金額是200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
12554.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
12555.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
我可以小動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
12555.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
12557.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
跟其他的委員的案子並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
12557.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
12558.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
就是想動少一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
12558.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
12561.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
但是我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
12561.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
12563.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
如果這個部分沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
12563.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
12565.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
六十監督國原會這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
12566.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
12568.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
相關計畫的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
12568.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
12571.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
我覺得核安這邊還是要再加把勁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
12571.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
12572.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
12572.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
12574.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
好 謝謝秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
12574.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
12576.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
接下來有請柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
12576.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
12578.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
好 有關第二幕是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
12578.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
12580.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
這個管理發展業務部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
12580.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
12581.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
我提的四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
12581.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
12584.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
都是我們可以分兩個層次來做一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
12584.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
12586.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
像第21案跟第54案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
12586.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
12590.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
我個人認為應該並按動第二幕的100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
12590.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
12591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
原因其實是很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
12591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
12594.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
因為你們在21案是有關於這個公共參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
12594.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
12595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
跟這個民眾溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
12595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
12599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
那我之前也特別受到相親的這樣子的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
12599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
12601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
他說的確是公民參與是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
12601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
12603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
而且資訊公開的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
12603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
12605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
他們認為也不夠充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
12605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
12610.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
所以他就在網站被動的去做一些資訊的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
12610.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
12612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
所以大家當然希望這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
12612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
12613.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
也要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
12613.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
12616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
這個同樣要到屏東辦理這個道場說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
12616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
12619.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
希望能夠進一步改善過去這個民眾所反應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
12619.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
12624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
那第54案其實就是早年發生的放射線照相業的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
12624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
12626.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
因為有些因為資訊的隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
12626.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
12629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
造成這些員工不幸的離世 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
12629.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
12631.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
那你們就說要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
12631.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
12633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
要來做這樣的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
12633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
12638.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
強調要提出這個遊離輻射保護法的修法來保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
12638.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
12640.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
但做了好久啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
12640.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
12642.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
這個也提出草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
12642.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
12646.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
然後因為從改組藉其不連續又沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
12646.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
12647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
這一會又從你草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
12647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
12649.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
但草案到目前為止對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
12649.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
12651.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
我還是躺在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
12651.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
12655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
只要你多單個一天對於很多從業人員的這個健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
12655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
12656.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
我覺得多了一份風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
12656.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
12657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
12657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
12658.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
雖然你們來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
12658.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
12660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
但是我想不管是跟民眾溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
12660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
12664.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
或是維護放射線照相從業人員的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
12664.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
12665.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
我覺得這是非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
12665.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
12668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
我目前沒有看到太積極的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
12668.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
12669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
所以對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
12669.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
12671.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
我認為21案跟54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
12671.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
12673.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
雖然主席剛說是49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
12673.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
12674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
但是我提前講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
12674.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
12675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
21案跟54案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
12675.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
12679.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
我覺得在第二幕可以統一凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
12679.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
12680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
那我覺得這個要提 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
12680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
12682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
國安法要提出一些的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
12682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
12685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
然後第34案跟41案就改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
12685.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
12688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
那我特別已經提到了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
12688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
12689.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
這個國研 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
12689.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
12692.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
就是有國研院預算占總體的七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
12692.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
12694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
但是他的跨年計畫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
12694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
12696.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
有部分執行率欠佳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
12696.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
12697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
12697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
12699.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
41案也是針對跨年的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
12699.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
12701.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
沒有在預算書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
12701.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
12704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
詳列執行的年限經費跟分配等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
12704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
12706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
但是因為你們來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
12706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
12708.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
所以在有關沒有詳列的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
12708.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
12710.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
主要是時序的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
12710.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
12711.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
還有新增的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
12711.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
12712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
跨部會計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
12712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
12714.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
都還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
12714.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
12717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
來不及完成行政院核電的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
12717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
12719.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
也沒有辦法再預算出宰民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
12719.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
12721.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
所以我個人覺得這兩案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
12721.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
12723.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
34跟41我覺得我可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
12723.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
12726.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
但對不起在有關我所在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
12726.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
12728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
第21跟54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
12728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
12729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
我覺得在第二幕當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
12729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
12732.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
可以併案來凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
12734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
12736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
好 謝謝柯臻恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
12736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
12738.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
再來請郭育晴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
12738.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
12740.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
下一位羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
12741.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
12745.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
好 這個部分我是針對29案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
12745.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
12747.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
那核安會當然有來辦公室來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
12747.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
12749.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
不過還是要提醒一下我們核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
12749.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
12752.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
目前官網的整體設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
12752.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
12754.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
比較容易讓一般的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
12754.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
12756.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
或者是國會在查閱的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
12756.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
12758.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
產生一些誤解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
12758.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
12761.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
因為大家習慣會去點研究成果的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
12761.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
12764.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
但是因為研究成果是停留在112年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
12764.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
12767.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
也不知道說他已經移到其他的一個分頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
12767.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
12770.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
那我想這個難免會讓外界會質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
12770.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
12772.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
這個計畫的執行效益跟透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
12772.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
12775.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
那這個部分我想還是要稍微改進一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
12775.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
12777.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
因為已經改組了快三年了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
12777.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
12780.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
那相關的科研的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
12780.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
12783.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
其實還是要有效的讓社會大眾看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
12783.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
12786.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
那這個部分我沒有堅持凍結的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
12786.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
12787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
可以併案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
12787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
12788.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
12788.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
12789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
12789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
12791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
接下來請羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
12791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
12793.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
好 那針對核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
12793.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
12796.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
他的這個第二幕第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
12796.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
12798.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
原子能科學發展向下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
12798.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
12801.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
公眾參與民眾溝通部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
12801.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
12804.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
26案 他428萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
12804.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
12806.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
那我是看到這個經費目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
12806.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
12811.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
是促進公眾對原子能安全管理的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
12811.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
12814.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
那核安會也卻在社群網站有一些經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
12814.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
12817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
但是我覺得比較缺乏核能應用知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
12817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
12818.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
跟輿情的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
12818.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
12821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
例如我們國家對於核電廠運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
12821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
12823.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
電力安全經營等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
12823.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
12825.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
那為什麼這件事開始變得重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
12825.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
12827.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
因為賴清德總統已經宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
12827.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
12829.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
要政府來進行重啟核電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
12829.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
12833.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
那所以要讓社會大眾對核電在台灣的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
12833.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
12837.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
以及核電在國際的潮流趨勢的現狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
12837.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
12841.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
應該要有相當必要的去讓民眾能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
12841.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
12844.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
包括核電的原理成本燃料重啟程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
12845.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
12847.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
美國日本韓國這些先進國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
12847.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
12850.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
重啟核電的進程跟決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
12850.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
12852.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
那跟台灣的核電廠有何異同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
12852.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
12855.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
這些都是我們現在面臨廢核 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
12855.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
12856.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
然後又重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
12856.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
12860.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
民眾需要再得到更多的一些相關的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
12860.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
12863.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
所以我覺得政府部門應該要盡力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
12863.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
12866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
來去建立知識的一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
12866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
12867.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
12867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
12869.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
好 謝謝羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
12869.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
12870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
還有沒有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
12870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
12871.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
蔡君仲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
12873.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
12877.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
不好意思 我再針對49案再做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
12877.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
12880.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
那我們請核安會能夠補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
12880.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
12883.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
SMR研究成果未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
12883.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
12887.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
若被核安會參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
12887.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
12889.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
那如何建立利益回避 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
12889.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
12892.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
還有審查的一個獨立性的一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
12892.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
12897.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
那第二是國研院接受的補助執行SMR研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
12897.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
12899.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
那未來如果進入審查階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
12899.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
12903.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
研究團隊跟審查程序又如何來切分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
12903.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
12907.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
三研究內容中涉及到成本分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
12907.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
12908.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
離岸式的一個配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
12908.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
12910.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
還有技術的一個評比 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
12910.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
12912.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
法規原稀者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
12912.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
12916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
哪些屬於核安會安全監理的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
12916.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
12920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
哪些是屬於原政策的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
12920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
12925.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
是SMR核會事故環境影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
12925.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
12931.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
還有核料的一個關鍵結構安全的評估成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
12931.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
12933.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
如何公開武術 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
12933.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
12935.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
科學中立公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
12935.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
12939.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
如何落實為具體公開項目跟公開的實程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
12939.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
12941.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
能夠交一份報告到本班 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
12941.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
12944.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
然後就改成主結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
12946.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
12947.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
好 謝謝蔡主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
12947.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
12950.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
我這邊有兩案做一個簡短的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
12950.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
12955.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
第十一案的部分是關於核工人才出現斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
12955.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
12962.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
所以我這邊是希望可以看到盤點核能專業人才培育現況的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
12962.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
12968.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
那也希望能夠看到如何去建立長期人才培育產學合作的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
12968.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
12971.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
那如果有看到我這個可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
12971.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
12974.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
那另外一個部分是第25案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
12974.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
12977.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
就是因為核廢料儲存設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
12977.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
12982.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
通常都會設置在原住民族地區或鄰近部落的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
12982.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
12988.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
所以這個部分長期就是受到質疑資訊不對等參與不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
12988.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
12991.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
所以這個部分我還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
12991.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
12997.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
核安會在未來在處理這一類的一個審查也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
12997.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
12999.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
公聽會也好或者決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
12999.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
13007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
我希望能夠清楚的看到這個符合知情同意的一個原則跟參與的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
13007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
13011.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
所以這個部分我大概用並動的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
13011.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
13012.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
13012.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
13015.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
好 那是不是請核安會做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
13020.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
13024.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
剛才有委員需要提供說明嗎 還是不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
13024.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
13026.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
我是有聽到秀寶委員說要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
13027.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
13029.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
好 來 說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
13031.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
13034.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
剛剛陳委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
13034.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
13037.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
我們金會今年增加了4.3億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
13037.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
13039.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
主要是藥物韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
13039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
13041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
這個增加了3.3億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
13041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
13043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
另外SMR增加了1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
13043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
13047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
還有小部分是淨零碳排的計畫增加所致 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
13047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
13050.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
那進度有延後的主要是六福化釉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
13050.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
13052.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
我們原來有32桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
13052.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
13054.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
那去年運出了30桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
13054.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
13058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
今年1月又把另外兩桶全部運到英國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
13058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
13060.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
那都完成這整個運送程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
13060.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
13063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
阿約一夜也來檢查 前鋒過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
13063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
13065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
所以剩下只是捷報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
13065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
13068.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
我們預期在下個月底希望能夠捷報完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
13068.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
13070.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
希望這個案子能夠截掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
13070.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
13074.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
這是 另外一個是70MV場館興建的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
13074.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
13078.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
因為廠家去年遭遇罷工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
13078.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
13080.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
還有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
13080.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
13083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
但是我們這個進度已經都改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
13083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
13087.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
現在進度是99% 接近99% |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
13087.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
13089.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
那捷報率也接近85% |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
13089.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
13092.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
然後預計場館的主建築工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
13092.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
13095.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
應該下個月我們就可以完工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
13095.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
13097.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
就是主建築 土建 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
13097.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
13099.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
這個應該我們也會符合這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
13099.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
13102.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
那核安會長期一直都嚴格的監督我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
13102.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
13106.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
所以在他們的監督下 我們會持續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
13106.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
13107.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
13110.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
13114.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
好 那做完說明還有沒有其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
13114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
13116.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
13116.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
13118.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
來來 請請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
13118.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
13121.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
在這邊跟各位委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
13121.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
13124.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
有關於這一幕針對資訊公開的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
13124.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
13127.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
那當然我們除了一般民眾資訊公開之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
13127.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
13129.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
對於特殊案件的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
13129.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
13132.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
我們也會盡量做到讓剛才所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
13132.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
13134.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
就是說我們會主動告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
13134.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
13136.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
讓他們有諮詢的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
13136.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
13139.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
那這個是我們會繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
13139.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
13141.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
包括委員有提到的臉書啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
13141.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
13144.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
或者是我們的網站等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
13144.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
13146.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
那如果有委員提到的一些建議事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
13146.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
13149.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
我們都會納入我們的精進的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
13149.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
13151.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
那針對這個國務院的績效管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
13151.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
13156.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
確實國務院的預算比例占核安會的比例高達七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
13156.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
13158.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
所以我們也非常重視這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
13158.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
13160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
所以我們除了計畫管理之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
13160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
13162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
我們還有行政的查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
13162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
13165.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
還包括請外部委員的績效評鑑等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
13165.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
13169.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
這些都是我們要求國務院能做好所有計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
13169.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
13172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
都能夠按時如質的完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
13172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
13175.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
至於各位委員所關切的合工人才的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
13175.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
13177.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
承諾剛才我們主委所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
13177.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
13181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
合工人才確實在目前是比較稀缺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
13181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
13185.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
所以我們包括我們自己內部人才的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
13185.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
13189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
還包括外部就是包括我們爭取公費留考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
13189.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
13191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
然後國籍規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
13191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
13193.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
以及我們跟國科院有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
13193.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
13197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
國科會有所謂的學術合作研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
13197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
13199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
來培養各個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
13199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
13203.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
能夠踏入原子能的這個領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
13203.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
13208.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
這些都是我們努力做育才、染才、留才的一些方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
13208.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
13210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
那這部分關於第一幕的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
13210.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
13213.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
就懇請各位委員能夠予以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
13213.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
13214.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
13215.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
13217.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
現在是第二幕第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
13217.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
13218.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
第二幕第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
13218.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
13219.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
13219.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
13221.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
是不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
13221.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
13223.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
因為第二幕總共有四節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
13223.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
13225.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
現在是第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
13225.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
13227.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
我們是不是除了改組決議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
13227.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
13229.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
其他我們等下四節處理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
13229.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
13231.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
第二幕併動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
13231.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
13232.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
13232.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
13233.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
好,那謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
13233.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
13235.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
那我先宣讀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
13235.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
13239.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
第一節的第十案至第四十九案的審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
13239.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
13244.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
第十一、十七、十九、二十、二二、二四、二五、二七、三十 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
13244.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
13248.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
三一、三四、三六、四一、四二等案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
13248.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
13253.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
還有四四、四九等案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
13256.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
13258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
好,我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
13258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
13259.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
13259.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
13260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
13260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
13261.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
13261.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
13262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
13262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
13263.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
13263.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
13264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
13264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
13265.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
13265.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
13266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
13266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
13267.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
13267.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
13268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
13268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
13269.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
13269.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
13270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
13270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
13271.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
13271.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
13272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
13272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
13273.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
13273.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
13274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
13274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
13275.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
13275.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
13276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
13276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
13277.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
13277.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
13278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
13278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
13279.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
13279.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
13280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
13280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
13281.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
13281.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
13282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
13282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
13283.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
13283.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
13284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
13284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
13285.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我們現在就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
13257.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
13259.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
我是第21案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
13259.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
13260.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
跟54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
13260.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
13261.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
把他並 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
13261.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
13263.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
我21跟54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
13263.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
13264.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
是並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
13264.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
13265.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
是並動100 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
13265.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
13266.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
就是在第二幕當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
13266.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
13267.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
並動100 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
13267.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
13268.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
所以21不是改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
13268.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
13269.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
13269.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
13270.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
因為我沒有念21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
13270.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
13272.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
那就21跟我等一下的54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
13272.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
13273.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
就整個並動100 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
13273.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
13274.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
13274.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
13276.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
那我們先接著處理第二幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
13276.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
13278.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
原子能管理發展業務第二節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
13278.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
13281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
油利輻射安全防護提案案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
13281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
13283.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
第50案至第63案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
13283.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
13285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
有沒有委員要做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
13288.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
13289.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
13289.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
13291.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
林怡菁委員陳秀白委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
13296.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
13297.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
我是第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
13298.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
13299.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
51案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
13300.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
13306.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
這個案的內容是跟輻射防護管制經濟相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
13306.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
13310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
我想原子能的民生運用日漸廣泛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
13310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
13313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
像是醫院或者是相關的工業場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
13313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
13316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
但是劑量的管理跟風險的管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
13316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
13318.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
也是我們需要特別去注意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
13318.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
13321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
那我們看到核安會都有持續在經濟相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
13321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
13326.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
輻射安全防護的管制作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
13326.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
13328.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
那包括輻射線 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
13328.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
13331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
輻射源的線上申辦系統等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
13331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
13338.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
或者是輻射安全防護的文化數位學習網的建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
13338.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
13340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
但是針對本次提案提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
13340.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
13343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
就是說如何數位化管理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
13343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
13345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
我覺得目前還有待精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
13345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
13348.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
所以這部分我凍結了數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
13348.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
13350.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
就跟大家等一下再一起處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
13350.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
13351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
13351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
13352.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
好,謝謝怡菁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
13352.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
13353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
接下來請秀白委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
13355.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
13356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
13356.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
13357.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
在第二節這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
13357.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
13359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
我的案子是第56案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
13359.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
13363.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
這個案子主要是由於輻射安全防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
13363.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
13367.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
向下的這個相關的一些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
13368.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
13370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
日前媒體報導有指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
13370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
13375.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
有清潔隊他在院垃圾自文化廠遭退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
13375.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
13378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
原因是因為偵測到垃圾輻射超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
13378.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
13380.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
讓民眾覺得很恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
13380.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
13383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
那經過核安會這邊調查之後發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
13383.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
13387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
其實是因為病患進行核子醫學治療之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
13387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
13389.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
產生的這些廢棄物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
13389.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
13393.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
來導致有這樣子的一些這個偵測出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
13393.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
13394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
那核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
13394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
13399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
你們作為這個輻射安全管制的機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
13399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
13401.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
在對於醫院醫療院所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
13401.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
13405.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
如何完善核子醫學治療之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
13405.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
13408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
相關的廢棄物這些處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
13408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
13411.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
你們怎麼宣導怎麼去輔導他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
13413.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
13415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
才不會造成民眾的恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
13415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
13418.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
我覺得這個部分你們可能是不是之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
13418.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
13420.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
在這個部分沒有做到很到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
13420.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
13422.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
那你們有來說明就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
13422.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
13426.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
會加強來監督醫院來強化說對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
13426.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
13429.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
合醫治療的病人他返家之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
13429.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
13432.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
這個輻射防護的這個衛教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
13432.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
13435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
而且會在課補相關的教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
13435.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
13438.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
來強化民眾對合醫療的這個認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
13438.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
13440.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
避免民眾會有恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
13440.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
13441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
那這個部分我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
13441.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
13443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
我希望說核安會你們之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
13443.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
13447.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
有這個比較具體的改善的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
13447.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
13450.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
跟你們相關執行的內容的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
13450.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
13453.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
那這個案子我沒有很堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
13453.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
13455.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
我是可以改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
13456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
13459.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
到底你們針對這樣子的情形發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
13459.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
13463.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
如何來宣導如何來強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
13463.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
13465.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
就是對民眾對這些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
13465.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
13467.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
合醫療的這些認識呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
13467.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
13469.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
我希望你們的方案是具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
13469.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
13470.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
13470.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
13473.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
好謝謝秀寶委員還有沒有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
13473.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
13475.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
請羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
13477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
13479.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
針對第62案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
13479.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
13481.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
114年7月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
13481.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
13484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
核安會是協助我國海域魚貨物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
13484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
13488.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
日本輸入水產食品跟海域生態系樣本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
13488.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
13489.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
來去相關的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
13489.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
13491.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
那雖然沒有輻射異常的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
13491.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
13494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
但是因為日本福島電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
13494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
13496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
川沸水海洋排放作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
13496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
13498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
預計長達30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
13498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
13501.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
所以我覺得還是要根據嚴加監控 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
13501.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
13505.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
相關的排放資訊及相關檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
13505.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
13507.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
另外核安會及所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
13507.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
13511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
115年挹注國研院輻射偵測中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
13511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
13513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
跟高雄市衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
13513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
13516.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
三家川實驗室的預算資源增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
13516.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
13518.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
但檢測量目標值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
13518.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
13521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
跟每年檢測量能量差距卻不小 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
13521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
13523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
沒有高於以前的年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
13523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
13525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
我覺得這個部分可能是不是要考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
13525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
13528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
調高目標值來擴大檢測服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
13528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
13530.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
那充分發揮實驗室的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
13530.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
13532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
也增進預算應用的效力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
13532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
13535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
來促進國人對食安的信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
13535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
13536.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
13536.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
13537.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
13537.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
13539.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
再來請吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
13540.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
13542.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
第52案是我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
13542.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
13545.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
那是有關遊離服飾安全防護這一個問重事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
13545.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
13548.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
所以之前質詢也有請教過核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
13548.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
13550.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
那這一個我現在看到的狀況是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
13550.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
13553.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
我們這個項目是辦了經費流入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
13553.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
13556.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
但是後來是沒有執行完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
13556.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
13558.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
不過因為核安會有跟我來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
13558.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
13560.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
是因為有暴流款項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
13560.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
13561.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
那隔年播入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
13561.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
13563.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
所以這一個委員先提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
13563.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
13565.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
我就不堅持按原理的訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
13565.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
13566.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
13566.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
13567.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
好 謝謝佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
13567.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
13570.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
那是不是請核安會做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
13573.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
13577.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
那第二節是有關於國內的民生應用的一個服飾安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
13577.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
13579.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
那各位委員的一些提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
13579.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
13580.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
以及關切的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
13580.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
13583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
我們這邊也都非常的一個在乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
13583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
13586.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
所以我們其實在整個民生應用裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
13586.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
13588.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
像朝向數位化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
13588.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
13590.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
我們會來持續的一個努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
13590.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
13593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
那因為它是確保服飾作業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
13593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
13595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
還有民眾的一個安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
13595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
13599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
那像民眾的一些就醫的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
13599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
13604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
那尤其是怎麼樣去重視了解這個核醫藥物的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
13604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
13606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
一些它的一個安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
13606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
13607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
以及它自己排泄物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
13607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
13611.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
怎麼去做一個有妥適的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
13611.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
13612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
然後去管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
13612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
13615.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
我們這部分也會持續的來透過衛教跟醫院端 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
13615.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
13617.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
來去做一個努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
13617.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
13621.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
那至於就是那個日本排放穿水這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
13621.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
13623.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
我們在這部分的一個跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
13623.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
13625.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
依舊會持續的一個努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
13625.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
13628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
那有關於生物穿的這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
13628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
13630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
現在國內有三家實驗室 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
13630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
13633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
其實我們的一個生物穿的一個檢測的一些目標子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
13633.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
13636.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
其實我們都持續的去做一個滾動調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
13636.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
13640.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
我們會去觀察日本排放的一個現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
13640.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
13644.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
那維持國內具備兩千件的這個量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
13644.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
13647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
是我們目前還是首要的之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
13647.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
13652.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
那另外一些生物穿的一些那個實驗室的一個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
13652.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
13654.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
研究的一個效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
13654.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
13657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
我們這邊也都持續透過科技計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
13657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
13660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
在做這一塊的一個生物穿的技術研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
13660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
13664.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
那也懇請委員能夠支持我們的一個第二節的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
13666.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
13668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
好,還有沒有其他的說明? |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
13668.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
13670.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
好,那針對第二幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
13672.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
13674.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
拜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
13673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
13675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
第二節的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
13676.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
13679.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
我來宣讀一下審查的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
13679.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
13683.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
遊歷輻射安全防護提案案號第50案至第63案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
13683.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
13685.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
13685.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
13691.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
第50、56、57、58、61、63等案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
13691.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
13695.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
那剛才有提到我們第二幕整幕一起來做滾動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
13695.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
13700.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
接著我們來處理第二幕原子能管理發展業務第三節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
13700.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
13707.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
核設施安全管制提案案號是第64案至第71案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
13707.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
13709.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
有沒有委員要做說明? |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
13709.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
13712.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
來,林益晉委員、陳秀寶委員、羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
13713.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
13714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
13714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
13716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
我是第68案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
13716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
13722.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
那這是有關於核設施安全管制資訊公開的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
13722.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
13725.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
那主要核心是在於說我們不僅要審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
13725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
13728.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
該公開的文件就是要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
13728.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
13732.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
我們更要以淺顯易懂的方式讓民眾了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
13732.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
13736.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
這個在今天這個質詢的時候有特別強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
13736.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
13740.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
那簡單來說說我們複雜的內容的文件當然要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
13740.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
13743.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
可是我們也必須要幫民眾做一個摘要板 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
13743.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
13748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
甚至是審查程序過程就應該要視狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
13748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
13751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
來依照政府資訊公開法的規定來公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
13751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
13754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
那以提升這個核子設施審查的透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
13754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
13758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
那所以這裡凍結的數額也跟大家一併處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
13758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
13759.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
13761.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
13762.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
好,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
13762.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
13764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
下一位是邱寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
13764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
13765.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
謝謝主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
13765.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
13769.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
在這一節裡面我的案子有兩個71案還有78案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
13769.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
13774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
71案的部分呢是針對我們的核設施安全管制向下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
13774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
13777.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
關於我們電廠運轉及儲益安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
13777.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
13779.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
以及獨立驗證技術發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
13779.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
13782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
裡面有編列4000多萬的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
13782.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
13784.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
這個部分呢是要辦理核電廠運轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
13784.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
13787.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
以及儲益安全管制實務研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
13787.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
13793.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
以及核電廠儲益安全管制關鍵技術要向技術研究等相關的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
13793.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
13795.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
那台電呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
13795.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
13799.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
台灣電力公司在今年3月已經有提出核三廠再運轉的這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
13799.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
13804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
顯見我國的核電廠未來發展除了儲益之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
13804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
13806.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
是還有再運轉的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
13806.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
13808.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
那核安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
13808.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
13815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
的這個管制管理部分呢針對不同的核能電廠的發展跟走向呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
13815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
13820.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
我們應該要符合電廠實際上實務運用的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
13820.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
13822.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
那核安會這邊裡面有來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
13822.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
13828.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
就是儲益與再運轉都會面臨的這個耐震安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
13828.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
13833.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
研究事故安全分析以及重要設備維護管理等相關的研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
13833.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
13835.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
你們會持續的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
13835.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
13838.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
那在台電在送這個再運轉計畫之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
13838.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
13841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
你們有調整相關的這個研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
13841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
13845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
納入核電再運轉安全管制這些議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
13845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
13847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
那本席在這邊也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
13847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
13850.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
我們核安會針對我們核電再運轉這個安全議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
13850.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
13852.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
可以進行全面的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
13852.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
13857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
請核安會要提出預計研究內容的書面報告給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
13857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
13859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
就是針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
13859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
13862.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
因為再運轉這一塊其實在以前是沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
13862.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
13865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
那你們要擬出怎樣的一個研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
13865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
13867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
你們相關的書面報告要提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
13867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
13869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
那這個我可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
13869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
13871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
那第二個案子是78案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
13871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
13873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
78案的部分呢是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
13877.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
13879.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
他在第四案下發起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
13881.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
13884.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
好一次講沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
13885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
13887.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
13887.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
13891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
好蔡村長委員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
13891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
13893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
羅志強委員是不是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
13893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
13895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
好請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
13896.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
13898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
我講的是第67案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
13898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
13903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
那我要講錯誤的政策常會造成鬼打牆的虛耗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
13903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
13906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
我覺得是這邊就有一個很典型的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
13906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
13909.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
你可以看到就是我們核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
13909.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
13913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
他在編列這個核設施安全管制工作計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
13913.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
13915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
5000多萬裡面辦理的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
13915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
13918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
包括核設施安全維護管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
13918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
13921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
核電廠運轉以及除役安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
13921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
13922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
獨立驗證技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
13922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
13924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
其他部分我比較沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
13924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
13927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
我覺得今天要特別點出來就是所謂的除役的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
13927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
13934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
我國的核一二三廠運轉執照在107年跟114年陸續屆期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
13934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
13937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
那六部核電機機組已經停機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
13937.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
13942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
那其中核一廠已經在108年獲取除役許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
13942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
13945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
那現在關鍵是在核二廠核三廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
13945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
13951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
他是按照環境影響評估法進行除役的環境影響評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
13951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
13952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
但是大家不要忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
13952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
13958.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
賴清德總統已經宣布核二核三具有重啟運轉的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
13958.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
13961.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
而現在台電也在準備重啟程序當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
13961.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
13963.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
所以馬上一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
13963.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
13966.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
那請問還要再做所謂的除役環評嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
13966.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
13967.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
還有必要進行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
13967.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
13972.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
那核安會是不是應該督促台電來釐清接下來這一部分的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
13972.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
13976.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
那否則變成是今天總統都說要重啟了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
13977.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
13982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
結果呢我們現在還在做核二跟核三的除役環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
13982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
13984.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
那除役環評做出來決定讓他除役 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
13984.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
13986.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
然後呢幹嘛再重啟啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
13986.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
13988.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
這不就鬼打牆嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
13988.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
13991.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
所以我跟各位講說這十年的鬼打牆的虛耗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
13991.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
13994.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
在這件事情上會顯現出一個比較荒謬的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
13994.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
14000.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
那我覺得是不是請我們核安會來跟台電釐清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
14000.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
14003.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
那接下來這部分還要在浪費納稅人的錢做白工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
14003.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
14006.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
來去消耗浪費公帑以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
14007.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
14010.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
好謝謝下一位蔡順從委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
14010.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
14014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
那我針對70案做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
14014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
14018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
因為剛剛的刑打已經也有打刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
14018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
14024.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
那我覺得打刑的一個狀況我覺得還可接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
14024.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
14027.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
所以改為主結議以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
14027.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
14028.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
14028.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
14030.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
還有沒有其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
14030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
14032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
好那請核安會做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
14035.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
14036.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
14036.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
14040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
針對各位委員所提到的資訊公開這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
14040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
14042.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
跟各位委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
14042.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
14045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
除了在網站我們會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
14045.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
14050.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
依照資訊公開法針對台電公司所提供的相關的文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
14050.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
14054.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
那我們也會依照核安會的審查進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
14054.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
14056.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
陸續公布相關的審查資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
14056.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
14060.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
那至於那個簽協議董部分我們會持續來精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
14060.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
14064.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
那會後我們會針對各位委員所提出的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
14064.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
14069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
我們會逐一來盤點來持續這部分的透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
14069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
14072.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
那針對研究計畫這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
14072.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
14075.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
確實去年在編列今年的預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
14075.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
14077.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
事實上台電公司還沒有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
14077.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
14080.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
核三廠再運轉計畫的一些換照申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
14080.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
14084.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
那今年台電公司在3月提出來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
14084.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
14085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
我們已經針對研究計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
14085.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
14090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
將再運轉所關切的一些管制議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
14090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
14092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
我們也參考國際的一些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
14092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
14094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
來調整研究的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
14094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
14097.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
那會後我們會提供順便報告給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
14097.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
14100.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
那至於除役環評這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
14100.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
14107.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
那核三廠已經依法提出運轉執照換照的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
14107.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
14110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
會裡面是依法來進行審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
14110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
14114.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
但是在還沒有審查通過之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
14114.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
14118.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
也就是說台電公司還沒取得核三廠運轉執照之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
14118.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
14120.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
還是要依照相關規定來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
14120.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
14123.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
除了一些相關環評的相關事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
14123.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
14124.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
那以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
14126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
14127.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
14127.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
14131.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
如果大家沒有意見我就來宣讀選查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
14131.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
14134.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
第三節 核設施安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
14134.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
14137.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
提案案號第64案至第71案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
14137.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
14138.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
審查結果如下 |
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14138.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
14141.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
第70、71案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
14141.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
14144.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
那經費等一下整幕處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
14144.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
14146.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
我們接著來處理第二幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
14146.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
14149.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
原子能管理發展業務的第四節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
14149.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
14151.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
核子保安與應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
14151.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
14154.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
提案案號是第72案至第79案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
14154.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
14156.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
有沒有委員要做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
14156.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
14160.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
陳培育委員 林怡錦委員 陳秀寶委員 蔡春筹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
14161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
14162.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
14162.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
14163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
我的是第76案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
14163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
14167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
就是關於消防疏散的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
14167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
14169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
那核安會已經有來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
14169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
14170.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
我們可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
14170.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
14172.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
但是我想還是要提醒核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
14172.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
14175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
跟地方政府的加強緊密的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
14175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
14177.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
還有定期的消防演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
14177.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
14178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
這件事情都非常非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
14178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
14180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
還有相關的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
14180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
14182.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
那我們可以改成主決議 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
14183.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
14185.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
好 下一位 林怡錦委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
14185.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
14186.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
14186.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
14189.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
我是73案跟74案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
14189.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
14191.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
73案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
14191.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
14195.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
就是希望核安會可以多辦幾場地方說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
14195.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
14197.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
來廣納這個民眾的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
14197.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
14200.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
那必要時在鄰近恆春的幾個鄉鎮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
14200.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
14202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
也應該都要辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
14202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
14206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
那希望核安會加強這部分的政策執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
14206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
14210.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
那也能確實答覆民眾的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
14211.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
14213.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
那再跟大家一起並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
14213.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
14217.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
那74案是就是消防疏散的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
14219.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
14220.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
我是建議核安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
14220.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
14224.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
是要跟屏東縣政府來做一個密切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
14224.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
14227.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
研擬這個消防疏散應變計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
14227.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
14230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
因為如果從恆春這個對外的連外道路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
14230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
14232.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
其實就是有一兩條大條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
14232.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
14235.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
那如何安全有效的這個疏散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
14235.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
14238.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
這個其實非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
14238.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
14241.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
那所以我想這個整體的疏散計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
14241.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
14245.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
還有是不是這個要通盤檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
14245.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
14247.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
那不管不只是在核散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
14247.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
14249.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
那核二也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
14249.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
14252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
所以我早上質詢的時候就有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
14252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
14255.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
這個天災人禍這個隨時可能發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
14255.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
14258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
所以希望核安會針對我們這個有疑慮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
14258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
14262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
特別是疏散計畫能再做再次的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
14262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
14265.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
那動結術也是跟大家一起並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
14265.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
14266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
14266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
14267.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
14267.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
14269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
接下來請陳秋白委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
14271.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
14272.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
14272.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
14275.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
在第四節的部分我的案子是78案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
14275.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
14279.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
78案的部分是關於核子保安跟應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
14279.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
14283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
那這個部分包括辦理核子保安整備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
14283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
14287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
以及核試師的資通安全強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
14287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
14290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
核災防救訓練研發作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
14290.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
14292.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
以及應變技術的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
14292.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
14297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
以及輻射災害應變推廣食物這些相關的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
14297.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
14300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
那國際情勢一直在變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
14300.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
14303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
那二戰爭以及中東的局勢很不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
14303.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
14307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
那現在中國核電廠發展的很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
14307.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
14310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
在臨海區域設置很多個核電廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
14310.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
14315.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
顯見這個我們在核能安全不只是在國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
14315.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
14319.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
其實我們也要審慎評估國際在核能的運用的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
14319.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
14323.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
那對於我們國際核安使用的這個監控 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
14323.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
14328.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
我們還要精進相關的福災防救的技術的應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
14328.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
14330.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
那核安會這邊是有說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
14330.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
14335.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
目前我們跟IEA還有美國日本有建立這個通源機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
14335.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
14337.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
IEA有定期的來測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
14337.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
14341.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
並且針對可能造成我國影響的這個輻射程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
14341.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
14346.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
飄散的這個部分來研定這個境外核災應變機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
14346.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
14351.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
同時也說會開發這個精進無人機以及無人車等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
14351.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
14354.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
智慧化救災的應變技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
14354.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
14357.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
那我這邊想等一下請核安會說明一下說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
14357.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
14362.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
目前無人機跟無人車的研發預計何時可以投入實務的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
14362.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
14364.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
後續還有什麼其他的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
14364.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
14366.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
等一下請你們回答謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
14366.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
14367.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
好謝謝秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
14367.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
14369.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
接著春筹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
14371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
14372.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
14372.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
14376.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
我針對77案做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
14376.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
14379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
我們前核安會能夠來做補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
14379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
14384.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
就是近三年中央及地方第一線人臉的一個信任人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
14384.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
14388.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
然後測驗成效以及缺失的改善情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
14388.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
14395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
二地方政府反評結果是否分縣市類出改善建議還有完成例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
14395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
14399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
三是河山周邊的一個疏散點片 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
14399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
14407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
若是避難長照機構還有學校及醫療院所應變如何整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
14407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
14412.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
四是VR模擬信念跟現地演練如何來連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
14412.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
14415.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
適合有實戰化的一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
14415.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
14421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
第五是核子保安跟資訊通信安全信念如何轉化為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
14421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
14426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
核設市環保改善請提供報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
14426.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
14431.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
然後是討論情況能夠可以並案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
14431.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
14432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
14432.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
14433.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
14433.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
14435.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
那是不是請核安會來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
14442.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
14444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
謝謝委員這邊眾者做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
14444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
14448.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
首先針對委員關心的就是消防的疏散部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
14448.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
14451.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
目前就是我們已經渡島台電公司跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
14451.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
14455.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
都加強了各層級的一個就是直通的一個通聯管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
14455.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
14460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
那我們也會透過就是做演習跟演練還有視察的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
14460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
14465.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
持續的去檢視跟確認他們確實有按照相關一個規劃來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
14465.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
14469.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
那針對委員剛才關心的整體疏散的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
14469.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
14473.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
那我們也會持續跟地方政府持續的去做一個精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
14473.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
14479.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
那包括委員剛委員前面也有提議的就是針對現在一些災害的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
14479.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
14484.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
都一起進行盤點然後增加一些相關的一些疏散安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
14484.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
14487.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
跟疏散順利的一個配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
14488.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
14489.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
那另外再 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
14489.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
14494.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
國際情勢的部分因為確實如果有人所說現在國際情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
14494.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
14499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
包括一些戰爭或者是無人機攻擊的情勢這些一直持續有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
14499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
14502.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
因此我們也會持續的跟國際的友人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
14503.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
14508.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
像美日等等還有我們也有持續跟IEA等等做一些通聯測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
14508.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
14511.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
那也會掌握國際的一些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
14511.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
14515.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
剛剛委員有詢問到無人機無人車的研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
14515.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
14520.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
那目前其實無人機無人車的研發都已經有投入我們的這個應變作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
14520.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
14525.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
那只是因為我們都是用在目前都是演習的每年的核安演習的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
14525.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
14528.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
都有在運用無人機無人車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
14528.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
14530.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
那它主要是針對區域型 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
14530.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
14533.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
然後或者是比較不容易到達的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
14533.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
14538.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
然後還有熱點的部分去做一個就是積極的一個增減這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
14538.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
14541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
那未來也會持續的去做相關的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
14541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
14547.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
包括像訊號傳輸整合等等的這些技術上都會持續做精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
14547.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
14549.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
那目前其實在境外核災部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
14549.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
14554.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
我們也已經有境外核災一個因應小組可以去做應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
14554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
14557.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
那另外針對委員有關心的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
14558.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
14563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
跟地方加強一些模擬的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
14563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
14566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
跟相關地方地線應變人員的訓練部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
14566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
14572.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
那目前我們其實透過每年都會辦北中南東的一個地方地線應變人員的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
14572.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
14579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
那訓練的除了地方另外還有中央一些包含交通運輸等等的一些相關部會的地線應變人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
14579.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
14581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
都一起納入做訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
14581.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
14587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
那每年持續的精進包括課堂的講授跟這個演練討論的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
14588.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
14591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
那包括核子保安資安的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
14591.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
14595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
則是針對我們主要的從業人員會持續的做訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
14595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
14598.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
那相關的資訊就是也會再提供給委員更詳細的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
14598.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
14599.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
14601.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
14603.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
好 那個郭怡芹委員現在在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
14603.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
14605.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
她要補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
14605.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
14608.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
好 針對這個第79案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
14608.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
14614.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
那我想高度重視這個核安的應變跟國際實務上的一個接軌是我非常重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
14614.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
14619.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
那我想不僅是這個國際關切30公里的大範圍的核災的一個模擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
14619.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
14626.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
今天早上其實我也特別有針對這個部分來做質詢的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
14626.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
14632.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
好 那我想核安會跟這個美國能源部等國際的一個機構要來進行這個技術上的一個交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
14632.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
14637.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
那我想科技研究的一個成果也必須要實質的應用在這個第一線上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
14637.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
14643.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
那當然也是要支持我們自己本身對於這個福災的應變能力的這個提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
14643.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
14648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
所以這個部分我想除了要加強這個防災的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
14648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
14653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
還有整個基金之間的一個橫向的一個整合才能夠發揮最大的一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
14653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
14659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
好 那這裡我沒有堅持要凍結金盒可以跟大家一起這個平安討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
14659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
14660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
14660.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
14661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
14661.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
14666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
那如果大家沒有意見的話我來勳讀一下審查的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
14666.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
14673.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
第四節 核子保安與應變提案案號第72案至第79案審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
14673.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
14677.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
第75、76改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
14678.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
14682.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
然後除以上個案的主決議之外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
14682.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
14690.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
第二幕原子能管理發展第10案至第79案合併凍結100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
14691.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
14693.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
並針對各凍結提案之要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
14693.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
14698.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
依審查會決議提出書面報告後使得動知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
14699.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
14700.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
來 修法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
14701.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
14703.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
我的78案可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
14703.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
14706.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
那我的第35案就併動在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
14706.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
14709.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
好 那我再重新宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
14710.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
14716.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
第四節 核子保安與應變提案案號第72案至第79案審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
14716.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
14720.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
第75、76、78等案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
14722.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
14725.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
接著我們來處理第四幕環境輻射 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
14725.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
14726.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
來 各位請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
14727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
14730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
不好意思 因為我剛剛去那個別的委員會質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
14730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
14737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
那個我補充一下就是剛剛討論那個53案跟就是60跟69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
14737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
14738.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
我可以改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
14738.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
14739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
14746.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
14748.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
好 我來補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
14748.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
14757.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
第二幕的部分第53、69、60、69等三案增加改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
14757.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
14760.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
好 我們接著處理第四幕環境輻射偵測 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
14760.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
14763.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
提案案號是第80案至第86案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
14763.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
14765.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
有沒有提案委員要做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
14765.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
14770.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
來 柯正恩委員 蔡榛崇委員 林益景委員 陳秀芭委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
14770.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
14771.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
好 我是第82案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
14771.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
14774.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
剛剛羅志祥委員也提到有時候有關於河島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
14774.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
14777.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
這福島河災有關於寒川廢水的排放 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
14777.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
14778.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
我之前也特別問過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
14778.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
14785.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
因為你們曾經有四次派員到福島周邊漁港跟海水浴場來實地採樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
14785.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
14790.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
然後你們也把這個採樣的分析結果也放在這個平台當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
14790.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
14793.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
但是因為我們有受到一些民眾對這件事情的疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
14793.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
14796.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
他們根本不知道河岸會過去去日本採樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
14796.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
14797.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
也不知道你們有做過分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
14797.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
14801.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
也更不曉得你們會把它寫成出國報告 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
14801.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
14805.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
所以這個東西 我的意思就是說我肯定你們的用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
14805.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
14808.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
但是花這麼多心思 然後這些低手的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
14808.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
14811.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
就是要讓大家放心 然後民眾不太清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
14811.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
14815.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
所以你們就應該讓大家知道說你可以放心採購相關的食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
14815.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
14818.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
而不是民眾上網之後還要經過層層連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
14818.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
14821.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
打到我們辦公室好多的關卡 才這些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
14821.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
14824.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
我現在都快變成你們的對外窗口了 好不好 各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
14824.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
14826.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
所以說你們有來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
14826.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
14829.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
所以我還是覺得說看要什麼樣的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
14829.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
14831.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
不是寫在這個報告當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
14831.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
14834.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
可以提升你們的透明度還有查詢便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
14834.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
14838.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
所以我覺得這部分我可以達成這個主決議 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
14838.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
14841.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
好 謝謝 接下來蔡村首委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
14843.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
14847.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
謝謝主席 我針對86案來做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
14847.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
14853.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
那和安會已經提出了63站 5分鐘更新及公開平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
14853.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
14857.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
本席肯定下一步要確認異常的一個通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
14857.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
14861.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
還有資料品質跟新技術的一個導入期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
14861.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
14868.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
那請能夠補充5.1 63座的一個監測站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
14868.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
14871.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
1. 佈置位置跟佈建原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
14871.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
14874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
2. 異常值分級的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
14874.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
14878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
3. 通報機制及地方政府通知流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
14878.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
14884.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
4. Open data 資料格式是否利於外部檢核跟民間使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
14884.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
14889.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
5. 新世代的一個智慧監測站 116年完成後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
14889.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
14892.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
何時導入現有的一個系統 導入幾站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
14892.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
14894.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
優先順序為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
14894.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
14901.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
5. 新型的核種鑑北偵測器如何提升事故早期判讀的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
14901.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
14902.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
請提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
14902.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
14907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
那本席可以將這個案並案凍結 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
14909.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
14912.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
好 謝謝 接下來請陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
14912.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
14913.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
14914.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
14915.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
14915.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
14917.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
在最後我的案子是第81案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
14917.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
14922.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
81案的部分是關於我們環境輻射偵測的這個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
14922.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
14928.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
那我們有設置這個輻射自動監測站 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
14928.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
14932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
那相關的儀器設備呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
14932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
14938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
今年已經汰換了6...8台這個監測站的儀器 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
14938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
14941.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
那同時又編列新購10台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
14941.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
14944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
但是我們核安會這邊已經有透過新的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
14944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
14948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
我們有開發出具備新技術的這個監測站的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
14948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
14950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
那你為什麼還要再買這10台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
14950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
14953.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
那核安會有說明就是說新購這10台呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
14953.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
14956.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
是為了維持足夠的儲備備用機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
14956.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
14960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
那相關的這些說明呢 我是可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
14960.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
14963.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
我這個案子我可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
14963.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
14966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
但是我希望說你們這邊可以給一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
14966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
14973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
就是關於你們新增的這個鑑別放射性核種功能的這個新型偵測器呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
14973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
14977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
是不是關於你們這個新的偵測器的研究研發進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
14977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
14981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
以及後續你們規劃相關的這個報告給我一份 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
14981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
14983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
好 還有沒有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
14983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
14987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
好 那我這邊是第95案做一個簡單說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
14987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
14993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
就是特別關心希望核安會可以依法來督促台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
14993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
14997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
要積極辦理乾式儲存設施興建跟運轉的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
14997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
15001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
確保我們這些用過的核子燃料儲存的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
15001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
15003.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
那我這個就改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
15003.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
15005.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
好 那有沒有要請核安會說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
15007.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
15010.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
好 那核安會針對地質目環境輻射偵測的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
15010.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
15012.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
簡單補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
15012.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
15014.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
有關柯委員提到那個出國報告資訊部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
15014.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
15015.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
謝謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
15015.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
15019.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
那未來我們除了在我們的資訊平台有一些出國報告的連結外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
15019.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
15027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
我們也會再要未來我們出國的一些檢測或者是資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
15027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
15031.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
我們會把它放在平台上讓民眾可以更容易查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
15031.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
15034.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
那另外有關這個智慧監測站的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
15034.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
15041.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
那我們其實是針對現有的63站來做強化他的多電源的功能及模組的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
15041.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
15045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
以及能夠做這個核種的鑑別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
15045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
15050.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
那相關的這個進度以及未來的這個導入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
15050.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
15054.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
我們會在我們的報告裡面詳細說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
15054.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
15055.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
15056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
15058.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
好,如果沒有其他意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
15058.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
15061.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
我就來宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
15061.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
15063.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
是不是預算就照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
15063.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
15068.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
好,那第四幕環境輻射偵測提案案號第80案至第86案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
15068.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
15069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
15069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
15073.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
第81、82、85等案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
15073.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
15075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
其餘預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
15075.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
15076.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
15076.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
15077.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
接著處理第五幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
15077.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
15084.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
核物料的管制業務提案案號是第87至第97案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
15084.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
15086.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
有沒有委員要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
15086.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
15090.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
請柯振宏委員、林益晉委員、郭怡芹委員、陳秀芳委員、蔡春雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
15091.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
15094.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
好,我是第87跟93一併來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
15094.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
15096.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
就像我今天所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
15096.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
15099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
87案是有關於核物料管制的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
15099.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
15101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
那都是來督導台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
15101.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
15104.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
督促台電來做這個最終處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
15104.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
15106.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
中期處置的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
15106.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
15108.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
我也問過何涵惠非常多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
15108.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
15111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
然後你們都從罰款下變成違規事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
15111.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
15114.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
還沒有辦法讓這個台電提出硬硬的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
15114.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
15118.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
後來你們卻又把它改成注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
15118.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
15120.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
然後結果到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
15120.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
15124.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
那個專辦連最終處置條例目前為止都還是拿不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
15124.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
15126.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
我也不知道該怎麼樣來逼迫何涵惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
15126.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
15129.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
我也覺得對你們感到非常的無奈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
15129.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
15130.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
你們也很無力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
15130.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
15132.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
然後大家就這樣彼此笑一笑好不好各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
15132.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
15133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
15133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
15136.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
而且你看第93案就是我剛剛所質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
15136.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
15139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
核一核二三案這個室內的儲存設施的招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
15139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
15141.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
其實已經有延宕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
15141.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
15142.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
那現在要重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
15142.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
15147.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
所以我們也希望這個乾儲存設施的供給師傅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
15147.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
15150.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
都已經完全關乎到後續重啟的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
15150.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
15154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
所以我想你們何涵惠有表示會再多出台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
15154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
15156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
但是從過去的經驗來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
15156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
15159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
已經是力道已經明顯的不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
15159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
15164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
所以我還是認為這個部分應該是第87、93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
15164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
15167.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
並按在第5當中我認為還是要凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
15167.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
15170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
所以你們盡快做好這個多出台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
15170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
15172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
不然我們叫台電幫你負責100萬好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
15172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
15173.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
因為是你們多出台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
15173.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
15174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
他們都不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
15174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
15176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
你們不做我們當然有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
15176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
15179.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
我們有意見我們還是要做出這樣子的一個凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
15179.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
15181.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
希望能拿出更積極的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
15181.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
15183.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
這個循環我也不知道該怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
15183.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
15187.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
但是我認為87、93應該在第5目當中並按 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
15187.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
15188.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
來改動100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
15188.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
15190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
好謝謝柯志銘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
15190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
15192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
接下來有請林一金委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
15192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
15193.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
好謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
15193.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
15195.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
這一案是有關我是92案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
15195.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
15199.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
這是有關於高放射性廢棄物處置條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
15199.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
15202.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
也就是所謂的高放條例的嚴密 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
15202.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
15203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
因為我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
15203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
15206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
雖然主導在經濟部的專案辦公室在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
15206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
15210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
可是核安會也應該要致於延攜國際上最先進的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
15210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
15213.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
以立委國這個相關單位來做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
15213.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
15216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
所以這個案我可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
15216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
15218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
可是我希望後續的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
15218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
15220.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
要適時的跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
15220.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
15223.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
就是高放條例的這個嚴密的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
15223.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
15224.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
15224.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
15226.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
好接下來有請修法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
15229.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
15230.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
15230.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
15233.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
在這個部分我的案子是第97案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
15233.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
15237.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
主要也是關心這個室內乾除設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
15237.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
15239.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
核安會這邊有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
15239.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
15243.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
合一合二合三的室內乾除設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
15243.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
15246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
正在辦理不要採購作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
15246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
15249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
而且每個月也有就安全管制議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
15249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
15251.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
跟台電進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
15253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
15255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
這個大家都非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
15255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
15258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
但是一直關心但是進度也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
15258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
15260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
不是你們很積極監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
15260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
15262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
他進度就會有加快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
15262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
15264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
這個部分我還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
15264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
15266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
你們在你們的職責上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
15266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
15270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
這個監督他們盡快的有在這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
15270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
15272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
有個進度上是你們的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
15272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
15275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
那這個部分我是可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
15275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
15278.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
但是希望說這個再積極一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
15278.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
15279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
15280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
15281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
好謝謝修法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
15281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
15283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
接下來請陳丞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
15283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
15284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
15284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
15287.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
我針對96案來做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
15287.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
15290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
那核安會已經公開不少一個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
15290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
15292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
本來的關心是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
15292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
15296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
核廢料資訊是否更可讀更可追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
15296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
15301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
並能夠回應核三在運轉的情況下的一個社會疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
15301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
15304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
那請核安會能夠補充5.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
15304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
15308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
各核電廠用過的核子燃料存放的一個現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
15308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
15311.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
乾純儲存的一個審查進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
15311.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
15315.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
還有熱測試期的一個期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
15315.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
15320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
二是第一放設性廢棄物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
15320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
15322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
南宜的一個儲存場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
15322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
15324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
儲益的一個廢棄物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
15324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
15328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
最新的一個儲存量及安全的一個管制的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
15328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
15334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
三是乾式的一個儲存資訊是否包含台電改善進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
15334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
15336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
還有地方溝通的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
15336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
15341.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
四是研究報告送國家圖書館公閱讀之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
15341.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
15347.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
是否能夠以摘要或是圖表方式能夠公開重要的一個成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
15347.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
15351.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
五是回合料議題的一個如何納入核三 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
15351.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
15355.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
在運轉審查資訊公開跟風險溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
15355.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
15359.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
希望能夠提供報告到本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
15359.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
15361.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
那這個我可以並按來凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
15361.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
15362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
15363.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
15364.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
15364.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
15365.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
還有沒有其他委員意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
15365.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
15369.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
沒有的話是不是需要請和安會做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
15369.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
15371.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
和安會請你要說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
15371.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
15374.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
那這一幕的預算2300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
15374.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
15377.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
其實用在全國放設性廢料的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
15377.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
15378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
包括它的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
15378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
15381.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
那既有的設施也大概二三十座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
15381.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
15384.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
那像乾式儲存和乾式儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
15384.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
15386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
目前施運轉過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
15386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
15388.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
其實我們是每日派員檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
15388.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
15392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
那所有的台電公司所有的申請案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
15392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
15396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
我們都會如期的來完成它的審查作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
15396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
15398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
那另外有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
15398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
15400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
因為海安會是一個行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
15400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
15403.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
所以我們有必要引入外部的研發動能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
15403.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
15406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
研發量能來提升我們的管制的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
15406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
15411.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
所以這裡面我們有對於地方乾除跟處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
15411.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
15413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
有做那個研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
15413.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
15416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
那剛才委員所提到的這個研發成果的展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
15416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
15418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
我們也會來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
15418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
15420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
那主動提供台電公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
15420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
15425.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
台電公司高放選址條例的國外的一些參考意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
15425.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
15428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
我們都會照案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
15428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
15431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
那就請委員支持我們的預算以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
15432.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
15434.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
好 那有沒有其他意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
15434.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
15436.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
15436.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
15438.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
我們就來處理這個第五幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
15438.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
15442.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
那剛才柯志文委員有提到凍結病動100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
15442.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
15444.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
大家有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
15444.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
15446.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
好 沒有意見 我來宣讀審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
15448.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
15453.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
第五幕合物料管制業物體案案號第87至第97案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
15453.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
15455.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
15455.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
15458.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
第91、92、95、97等案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
15458.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
15460.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
15461.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
15464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
本幕合併凍結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
15464.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
15466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
並針對各凍結提案之要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
15466.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
15471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
依審查會決議提出書面報告後使得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
15471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
15472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
15472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
15474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
接著處理第二款第12項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
15474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
15477.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
核能安全委員會即所屬之主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
15477.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
15482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
提案案號是第98案至第113案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
15482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
15484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
那各位有沒有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
15485.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
15487.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
好 來 國語情委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
15488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
15491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
好 我講一下100案跟101案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
15493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
15497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
這個100案其實是為了要保障急診室的其他的一些病患 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
15497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
15501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
還有家屬 還有非輻射工作人員的健康跟安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
15501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
15503.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
所以這個部分我希望能夠更建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
15503.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
15507.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
更清晰可行的一個安全的操作的一個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
15507.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
15512.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
如果說這個核安會將來有精進的一些管制的措施跟方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
15512.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
15515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
也麻煩可以再提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
15515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
15517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
那101案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
15517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
15522.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
我想這個國安的健康跟海域的一個生態的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
15522.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
15526.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
海域的輻射監測不能有一天有空窗期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
15526.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
15531.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
那這個部分我們也要求是不是能夠將這個海域監測的一個核心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
15531.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
15534.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
應該是說核心的一個標準跟制度化的一個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
15534.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
15538.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
能夠有一些更具體的一個書面的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
15538.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
15542.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
那這個部分我們有特別的堅持都是主決議沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
15542.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
15543.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
15543.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
15544.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
15544.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
15546.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
那核安會有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
15548.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
15549.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
好 請到辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
15578.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
15580.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
1案至第6案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
15580.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
15582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
有沒有委員要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
15582.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
15584.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
來 柯震恩委員 林奕晶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
15585.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
15587.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
好 我是第2案跟第4案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
15587.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
15593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
第2案是關於目前核安會分合作的兩間服務社的這個檢驗室檢測能力的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
15593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
15598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
我想這個大概每一年都會被預算審查之後被拿出來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
15598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
15602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
那兩間每年最大的檢驗量是3,800 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
15602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
15605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
但實際檢驗量卻落差很大都不到1,000件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
15605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
15609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
那我想核安會有來溝通表示每年都有在進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
15609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
15611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
希望給核安會更多的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
15611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
15614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
好 那這個部分我同意改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
15614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
15617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
然後 但是還是希望能夠真的是在進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
15617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
15618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
因為落差太大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
15618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
15620.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
那第4案的地方的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
15620.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
15623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
因為去年核山廠這個火災事故的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
15623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
15626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
台電沒有在第一時間通報地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
15626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
15628.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
雖然這不是核子的事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
15628.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
15632.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
但也顯示這個通報的機制上面是有檢討必要的改進嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
15632.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
15634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
那我想核安會也來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
15634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
15639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
然後也督促台電來通盤檢視對外通報的程序跟改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
15639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
15642.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
所以我也願意把它改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
15642.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
15645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
但是我還是一句話也不曉得有沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
15645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
15650.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
持續督促台電 落實相關演練 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
15650.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
15651.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
好 二跟四 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
15651.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
15653.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
好 非常謝謝柯臻安委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
15653.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
15655.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
接下來怡君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
15655.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
15656.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
15656.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
15659.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
我是第五案跟第六案我一併來提 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
15659.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
15664.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
第五案是針對通報的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
15664.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
15668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
那第六案是有關於消防應變集結點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
15668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
15670.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
是否要重新盤點的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
15670.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
15672.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
針對第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
15672.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
15675.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
我們去年跟科委員講的一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
15675.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
15677.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
我們去年核三廠的火災 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
15677.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
15680.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
還有我們這個月核二廠也有發生火災 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
15680.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
15684.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
相關通報機制是否完備 還有應對是否迅速 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
15684.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
15686.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
這核安會當然也有來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
15686.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
15690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
就是說消防演練會通報程序納入演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
15690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
15695.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
也會敦促核電廠應變人員來熟練通報的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
15695.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
15699.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
那關於這個後者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
15699.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
15703.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
我當然也希望說這個防護的應變集結點這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
15703.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
15706.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
應該要隨時的滾動式的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
15706.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
15709.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
因為畢竟我們一次颱風來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
15709.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
15714.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
那可能又會使某些地方的災害的檢視區域範圍又擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
15714.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
15719.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
所以我覺得這個滾動式的檢討的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
15719.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
15722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
那所以應該每次豪大雨發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
15722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
15724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
我們就應該要重新檢視過一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
15724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
15728.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
那所以經過這個核安會的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
15728.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
15731.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
我可以改成這兩案我都可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
15731.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
15733.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
可是我希望說核安會都要落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
15733.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
15736.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
辦理這個隨時檢討的內容跟流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
15736.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
15737.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
15738.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
15740.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
好 謝謝林進委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
15740.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
15743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
好 那其他委員應該沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
15743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
15746.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
那核安會有要做說明嗎 還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
15746.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
15747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
15747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
15749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
委員督促我們就是要持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
15749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
15752.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
就是協助像倍人實驗室以及多數台電公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
15752.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
15754.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
這些我們都會持續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
15754.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
15757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
好 那是不是我們就預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
15757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
15758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
15758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
15762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
基金用途提案案號第一案至第六案審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
15762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
15767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
第1、2、3、4、5、6全部改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
15767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
15768.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
15768.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
15770.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
15770.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
15775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
核子事故緊急應變基金全案處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
15775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
15779.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
繼續處理行政法人國家原子能科技研究院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
15779.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
15781.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
業務計畫終之營運計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
15781.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
15784.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
提案案號第一案至第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
15784.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
15786.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
有沒有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
15786.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
15789.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
好 來 從後面秀寶委員 玉琴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
15789.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
15791.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
怡君委員 智恩委員 謝謝 |
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謝謝主席 |
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在這個部分呢 我的案子是第二案 第三案及第五案 |
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第二案的部分呢 是對於說 |
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我們現在對於我們的這個 |
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海域放射性物質擴散玉璟安全的這個相關的執行 |
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現在所試驗的這個生物的物種 |
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以及核種的這個範圍是相對的有限 |
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這樣子的這麼局限呢 其實很難充分反映出海域生態系中 |
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不同熟練層級跟多樣的核種的傳輸跟累積特性 |
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所以這邊呢 我提這個案子是希望說 |
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提醒我們應該要擴充我們這個研究的對象 |
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是不是要納入更多具代表性的海洋生物的這個類群 |
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以及關鍵的核種 那國研院這邊要來說明說 |
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目前進行的這個計畫呢 是42137結斯90 |
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這個核種的這個養殖試驗 |
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也模擬探討海洋生物體內核種的這個累積的狀況 |
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那本期希望說 核安會呢 進行相關試驗之後 |
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能夠把研究的數據也提供給民眾參考 |
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我們放在我們的網站上 |
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那我想了解一下說 像這樣子 |
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我們預計多久可以公布相關的這個研究的數據 |
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等一下請我們這邊再說明一下 |
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第三案的部分呢 是關於SMR的研究計畫 |
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那國研院這邊你沒有說明說 |
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會針對不同類型的SMR產生這個高階核廢料的這個特性來進行研究 |
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也會建立模型 來針對不同的這個SMR使用過的核子燃料 |
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經過ADS轉化之後 |
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最終需要處置的高放射性的核廢料的減量以及相關的研究 |
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本期也希望說 核安會這邊要評估 |
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這個SMR所需要的安全防護條件 |
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跟目前的核反應爐是不是一樣 |
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來評估台灣是不是適合設置 |
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這個等一下也請說明一下 |
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第三個案子是第五案 |
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第五案的部分呢 |
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主要是針對我國這個核醫藥的這個體系 |
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我們核醫藥物的自主化以及應變的這個藥物的儲備 |
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因為核醫藥跟一般的藥比較不一樣 |
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就是說它的這個放射性的半衰期 |
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它這個藥物出爐之後 |
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它的藥效會隨時間很快迅速的這個衰減 |
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所以說這沒有辦法長期或大量的儲存 |
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那目前我國對於這個相關的這些核醫藥物 |
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其實需求性是高的 |
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但是我們自己的產能只有在50%左右 |
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所以我們很多是要仰賴國外進口 |
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但如果說國際之間有什麼緊急的狀況 |
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像空運中斷還是他們的反應螺絲停機的 |
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或是有其他的外力介入的話 |
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可能就會造成這些藥物供應不穩甚至短缺 |
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而造成民眾他在這個醫療需求上 |
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會有這樣子的這種狀況發生 |
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本席希望說國營會能夠逐步的來完善我們的產能 |
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以確認說在緊急的狀況的時候 |
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我們不會去影響到這個病人這個醫療這個需求 |
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那這個部分等一下是不是也請做一下說明 |
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以上 |
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好現在請國瑜親委員 |
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好我的部分是針對第一跟第六 |
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那我想攸關這個國家轉型的這個關鍵的靜雲排放 |
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還有這個小型的核能SMR的一個研究 |
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那也謝謝這個國醫院他這次有積極回應本席的一個提案 |
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那麼除了第一時間有補上這個115年的這個計畫經費的名氣 |
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那也承諾116年開始 |
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就會全面的修正這個預算書上的總書名的一個表列的一個方式 |
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那我想這個部分就是給予高度的一個肯定 |
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那針對相關的這個研究的業務能夠順利的進行 |
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所以在這個部分我沒有堅持要凍結 |
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所以可以改成主決議 |
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好那第六案的部分 |
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我想這個第六的部分是國人長期最關心的 |
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其實就是這個核後端的處理的一個風險的評估 |
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還有這個最終處置的一個研究 |
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這是最專業的一個技術的一個成果 |
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都應該要進一步能夠轉化成所謂的科學的這個分析的基礎 |
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那來協助這個國家推動更精確的一個政策的評估 |
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那我想這個技術跟這個政策的效益其實不可能完全的分割 |
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那國醫院這邊在這個發展的工程跟技術自主的同時 |
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那我想也應該要去跨領域的一個視野 |
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也讓更優秀的這個所謂的研究的一個成果 |
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能夠讓可以接軌這個大眾最關心的一些核心的一個爭議 |
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那因為這筆預算其實涉及到這個行政法人的這個財務自主跟對外的一個服務 |
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那這個部分我就不堅持也可以改成主決議 |
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好以上 |
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好針對一到六案還有沒有其他意見 |
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好需要核安會說明嗎 |
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還是不用 |
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好說明 |
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好一到六案呢 |
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對 |
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來核安會要做說明 |
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國研院 |
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原子能科技研究院 |
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麥克風麥克風聽不懂 |
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有開了 |
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對不起那個針對陳委員的質詢第一項是 |
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生物這些養魚的實驗什麼時候會公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
16156.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
16158.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
我們在計畫結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
16158.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
16160.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
今年年底計畫結束半年內會公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
16160.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
16164.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
下一年底結束以後還要統計數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
16164.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
16166.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
半年內會公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
16166.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
16169.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
那第二個是有關於SMR |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
16173.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
16175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
那個是不是一致的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
16176.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
16177.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
SMR |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
16181.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
16183.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
因為這屬於這個自投 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
16185.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
16187.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
第三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
16193.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
16194.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
第三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
16195.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
16197.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
SMR |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
16198.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
16200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
還有ADS這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
16201.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
16203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
他的假設條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
16203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
16206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
是不是跟傳統的核電廠有差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
16206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
16208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
的確因為他是SMR |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
16208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
16212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
所以現在也沒有國際商用的產品可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
16212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
16215.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
但是他的緊急計畫區通常比較小 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
16215.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
16217.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
沒有像大型的那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
16217.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
16219.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
所以這個我們將來做評估以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
16219.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
16222.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
一加四年計畫做完會給政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
16222.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
16225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
跟社會大眾一個確實的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
16225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
16228.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
最後一個是半衰期的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
16228.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
16230.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
還有產能不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
16230.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
16234.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
國家藥物韌性也是賴總統所重視的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
16234.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
16236.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
我們就在裡面有11種核藥物 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
16236.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
16240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
將來像以現在土耳林利我們大概供應國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
16240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
16244.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
心臟需要做檢驗的大概四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
16244.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
16247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
將來第二台加速器70%上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
16247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
16248.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
就可以提高到七成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
16248.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
16250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
還有其他一些加速器 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
16250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
16253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
也像剛剛的加67% |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
16253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
16255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
我們會維持百分之八 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
16255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
16257.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
比較少的也許一成到兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
16257.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
16259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
依照不同的藥物的特性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
16259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
16261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
我們會提供兩成到百分之八 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
16261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
16263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
這樣的藥物韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
16263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
16267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
現在很多藥物其中一半以上都是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
16267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
16268.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
目前都是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
16268.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
16272.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
我們會把它達到一個藥物韌性要求的水平 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
16272.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
16273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
16273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
16275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
好謝謝說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
16275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
16276.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
秀寶委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
16276.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
16277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
謝謝說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
16277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
16280.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
那我這三個案子都可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
16281.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
16285.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
16285.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
16288.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
那其餘是不是那個預算就照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
16289.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
16291.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
16291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
16293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
16293.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
16296.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
OK 那我來宣讀一下審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
16298.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
16302.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
國研院業務計畫中置營運計畫第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
16302.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
16304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
至第六案審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
16304.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
16308.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
第1、2、3、5、6案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
16308.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
16310.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
請預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
16310.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
16311.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
16311.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
16315.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
繼續來處理總支出提案案號是第7案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
16315.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
16317.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
至第11案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
16317.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
16319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
來 柯志銘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
16319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
16320.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
我是第7案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
16320.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
16323.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
那是有關於我今天早上質詢的有關於用人的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
16323.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
16325.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
那在院聘人員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
16325.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
16327.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
近年大概都有超額禁用的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
16327.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
16331.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
但是實際檢視你包括技術人員研究人員行政當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
16331.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
16333.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
最重要的專業技術人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
16333.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
16336.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
我剛剛特別提到的每年都是招不滿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
16336.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
16337.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
那我當然可以理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
16337.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
16340.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
因為非核家院已經被降到三級單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
16340.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
16343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
所以有非常多的這個專業的核工人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
16343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
16345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
都是流失或是退休 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
16345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
16347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
而且每一個國都在搶人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
16347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
16349.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
所以技術人力真的是越來越不好造 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
16349.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
16353.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
那我想我可以同意這案是不是可以改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
16353.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
16357.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
但是希望核安會在留財懶財的計畫上要更努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
16357.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
16358.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
16358.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
16361.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
第8案就稍微提醒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
16361.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
16365.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
目前你們國研院的男女比例實在有點太失衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
16366.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
16369.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
60幾乎七成對三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
16369.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
16371.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
這個雖然有很大的改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
16371.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
16372.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
但是還是提醒一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
16372.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
16375.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
在這個男女的比率上面還是要注意一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
16375.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
16378.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
這個我們這個STEM施行的這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
16378.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
16381.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
我個人認為6比4或許是一個可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
16381.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
16383.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
7比3這有點太那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
16383.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
16386.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
所以你要接一定要為這個副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
16386.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
16390.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
一定要為那個核安會你是代表的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
16390.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
16391.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
好很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
16391.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
16392.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
好就這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
16392.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
16394.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
那我決定可以把它改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
16394.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
16396.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
好謝謝柯政委員還有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
16397.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
16402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
好那我這邊是有一個第11案我做簡單的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
16402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
16406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
這個部分就是看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
16406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
16409.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
國研院投入研發的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
16409.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
16411.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
這些六項計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
16411.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
16416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
看起來都顯示促成投資的金額很有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
16416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
16421.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
所以在這個地方希望能夠看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
16421.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
16426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
就是提出測鏡精進的一些說明報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
16426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
16427.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
就改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
16429.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
16433.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
好那我就來宣讀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
16433.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
16439.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
總支出提案案號第7案至第11案的審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
16439.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
16444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
第7、8、11案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
16444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
16446.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
其餘預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
16446.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
16451.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
謝謝大家繼續處理固定資產建設改良擴充 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
16451.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
16453.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
提案案號第12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
16453.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
16457.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
那這個案我也做一個簡單的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
16457.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
16464.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
因為國研院是在做這個專利申請跟維護的建樹 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
16464.32 |
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16470.32 |
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可是我們看到歷年來好像都在逐年下降中 |
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所以顯現這個研究的量能有待持續精進 |
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那我也一樣希望可以看到 |
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精進測鏡改進的一個說明書面報告 |
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那我可以改為主決議 |
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那我在這邊就宣讀固定資產建設改良擴充 |
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提案案號第12案審查結果如下 |
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第12案改為主決議預算照列 |
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好,行政法人國家原子能科技研究院全案已審查完整 |
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請問是否需交由黨團協商 |
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好,本案不須交由黨團協商 |
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好 |
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謝謝,謝謝,謝謝各自委員 |
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好,那我們現在審查完整,我來宣告 |
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審查結果免於重複宣讀 |
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16538.58 |
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在不影響文藝前提下 |
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授權議事人員1.115年度中央政府總預算案審查報告 |
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16548.58 |
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與黨團協商之範例整理列入紀錄 |
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關於本次會議做如下決議 |
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第一,115年度中央政府總預算案 |
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有關核能安全委員會及所屬單位預算案 |
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核子事故緊急應變基金附屬單位預算案均已審查完整 |
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第二,115年度行政法人國家原子能科技研究院預算案審查完整 |
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擬具審查報告提請院會公決不須交由黨團協商 |
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院會討論時由五召集委員立法補充說明 |
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第三,對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料或未及答覆的部分 |
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請相關機關儘速以書面答覆 |
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國文院寫的 |
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法輪功 |
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謝謝 |
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