| IVOD_ID |
17454 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17454 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-21T08:33:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-21T12:41:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:07:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/bfaf9b39ac01a685d1a6f5ee3635aa4f5747feab1c358b40601341028818003d0f30be040d3629895ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：(上午9時起)
一、繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案關於環境部主管預算。(公務及非營業特種基金預算案)
二、繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款環境部主管部分預算。
三、繼續審查環境部函送財團法人環境資源研究發展基金會等4家財團法人115年度預算書案。
(預算審查完竣後)
一、繼續審查行政院函請審議「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、繼續審查委員馬文君等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五條條文修正草案」案。
三、繼續審查委員顏寬恒等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
四、繼續審查委員顏寬恒等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五條條文修正草案」案。
五、繼續審查委員林淑芬等22人擬具「廢棄物清理法第七十一條條文修正草案」案。
六、繼續審查委員張宏陸等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
七、繼續審查委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
八、繼續審查委員許智傑等29人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
九、繼續審查委員劉建國等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等20人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
十一、繼續審查委員邱若華等20人擬具「廢棄物清理法第十五條、第十八條及第十九條條文修正草案」案。
十二、繼續審查委員林月琴等21人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十三、繼續審查委員羅廷瑋等21人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十四、繼續審查委員蘇清泉等24人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五條及第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
十五、繼續審查委員王美惠等18人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十六、繼續審查委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十七、繼續審查委員王正旭等23人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十八、繼續審查委員邱鎮軍等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十九、繼續審查委員張智倫等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十、繼續審查委員王育敏等16人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十一、繼續審查委員盧縣一等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十二、繼續審查委員林宜瑾等23人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十三、繼續審查委員陳菁徽等16人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
二十四、繼續審查委員林淑芬等18人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第二十至二十二案，如經復議則不予審查；第二十三及二十四案如未經院會交付本會審查或未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】
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現在繼續開會本日會議議程為一繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案關於環境部主管預算公務及非營業特種基金預算案二繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案之下市及縣市政府一般性補助款環境部主管部分預算 |
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三居审查环境部含送财团法人环境资源研究发展基金会等四家财团法人115年度预算书案我们接下来介绍在场委员王振旭委员黄秀芳委员王玉明委员接下来介绍我们的列席官员环境部彭启明部长 |
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壞氣處陳敬興署長氣候變遷署蔡玲怡署長資源循環署賴盈盈署長化學物質管理署蔡夢玉署長環境管理署林建山副署長國家環境研究院張順清院長綜合規劃師洪淑信師長 |
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環境保護師徐淑芷師長大氣保護環境師黃偉銘師長水質保護師黃玉斌師長環境資訊科技師陳信雄專門委員秘書處胡明輝處長人事處黃喜旭副處長 |
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政風處陳培智處長統計處侯美玲處長法治處林芬處長財政法的環境與發展基金會張豐騰董事長有到嗎那蔡仁傑總經理 |
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行政院主計總署公務預算處嚴于平檢論視察基金預算處楊靖魯科長昨天預算審查到環境部主管公務預算案第250案今天繼續審查後續提案從委員提案251案開始 |
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每案先請行政單位說明 接著請委員表示意見 今天如果有提案改為主決預或原主決預文字有修改者 請行政單位於提案處理時宣讀主決預文字修正部分我們現在續審251案行政機關說明 |
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好謝謝昭緯好那第250案是我們是曾經251案抱歉第251案是曾經為委員提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後那改凍結50萬專案報告改成書面報告那原本一個月改兩個月提書面報告不用經同意時的凍結 |
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好 250 委員已經簽名好 251 案改為改 改凍結五十五萬那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審252 案 |
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252案是邱振均委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改凍結100萬那原本兩個月改成一個月提書面報告那可以併案那這個案子跟張偉這邊報告就是跟前面的250案兩個是併案 |
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252案改凍結100萬那按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過那接下來續審253案 |
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253案是邱慧如委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後同意改成主決議那主決議的一個內容最後一段改成請環境部化學物質管理署於兩個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告 |
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253案改為主決議並照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審254案254案也是邱惠如委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改成主決議那文字修正在 |
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倒數第二倒數第二段倒數第二行那個相關政策相關政策後面與預算執行成效與預算執行成效這幾個字刪除那另外最後一段改成請環境部化學物質管理署於兩個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告以上報告 |
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254案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審255案255案是翁曉琳委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊那個溝通之後那同意改成組決議 |
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好那組決議的內容提案的倒數第三行第三行有關凍結該預算1100萬這個部分刪除那另外倒數第二行提出倒數第二行食品包材刪除那以及 |
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經濟專案改成書面報告255案改成主決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審256案256案是陳靜威委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改凍結100萬專案報告改成書面報告 |
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原本一個月改成兩個月提書面報告那後面有關併經同意的字眼刪除那委員已經簽名256案改凍結100萬元並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下續審257案 |
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657案是邱振均委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改成主決議委員已經簽名那主決議的內容在原本的提案的第二段的第一行 |
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但獎勵經費支出相對微薄官號114年度僅編列實名基優自然人共50萬另115年度僅編列委辦費200萬這一段刪除 |
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那另外第四行原要求化學署應提高綠色化學獎勵金總額度並延提擴大獎勵基優等等一直到最後第二段的最後全部刪除那第三段 第三段的部分這裡改成是 |
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嗯 |
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喔 對不起 第三段刪除第三段改成除精進獎項辦理機制並因強化其擴散效應例如透過媒合獲獎單位與大專院校師生辦理實地觀摩演講及成果發表等藉由得獎者的經驗傳承促進各界相互學習與實務應用進而彰顯獲獎 |
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典範之影響力引領產業邁向永續發展轉型257案改組決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審258案258案是邱振軍委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後那科目調整為 |
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化學物質管理風險管控那原本原本最後一段的兩個月一個月改成兩個月那委員已經簽名那258案凍結100萬科目調整為化學物質管理業務的風險管理那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過那可並按 |
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和科目可自行調整來接下來續審259案259案也是邱振均委員的提案那科目調整為化學物質管理待續風險管控那原本最後一段的兩個月改成是一個月提書面報告那可併案 |
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委員已經簽名259案 凍結100萬 科目調整化學物質管理業務的風險管理那被按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過那可閉案然後科目可自行調整 接下來續審260案 |
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260案是如現依委員的一個提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改成主決議委員已經簽名好那那個文字的部分在第二段第二段倒數第三行的後段兩項計畫皆以精進運送等等 |
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這個部分到第二段的最後全部刪除那另外第三段一開始與短時間內連續延提兩項高度相似計劃那一直到第三行的20%這邊刪除 |
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那20%後面加一個請化學物質管理署針對毒性及關注化學物質及建構國家化學與韌性永續計畫確實依規劃目的以強化運送應變整備提交運輸安全管理及事故預警效能 |
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以上報告260案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審261案261案也是邱振軍委員的提案那跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後改成是組決議那組決議的內容是第一段 |
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第一段的最後一行這邊編列了7億7千250千元那後面的括號危害控制業務費刪除那另外第二段第二段的倒數第二行原要求改成請化學署 |
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因持續規劃全國22個縣市原本的提出改成持續規劃那第二行最後兩個字規劃刪除那另外第三段全部刪除以上報告261案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續成262案 |
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262案也是邱振興委員的提案那這個案子經過跟委員辦公室這邊溝通之後那測案委員已經簽名262案測案那接下來續審263案263案是劉建國委員的提案那這是主決議我們遵照辦理那263案按照劉建國委員提案通過接下來續審264案 |
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264案是邱政軍委員的提案那這是一個主決議那做一點文字的調整在第二段的倒數第二行原本的一個月改成兩個月 |
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那化學署這個署寫錯了所以改成化學署原本的署以上報告委員已經簽名264案按照邱正軍委員的提案鑿修文字後按照剛剛行政機關的文字通過接下來續審265案265案是廖偉祥委員提案他已經簽名同意測案那265案測案接下來續審266案 |
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266案是黃秀芳委員提案他已簽名改凍結100萬科目調整可併案那黃委員有沒有意見 |
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這個凍結100萬這個我沒有意見那我只是想要講的就是說這個垃圾的問題就是說有一些垃圾他沒辦法直接馬上處理有時候因為焚化爐的稅休所以有一些垃圾就會堆置堆置或佔置那像這樣的問題我們也希望就是說環境部針對 |
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這個焚化爐確實如果要興建的話確實會有一些困難那我是希望就是說針對目前的這些焚化爐的這個運轉的部分應該能夠讓它達到最大的效益那另外就是說我們這個垃圾處理的問題就是說應該還要有更積極可能更多元的這個垃圾的處理要不然我覺得這個垃圾是每天在產生然後也是 |
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時常會出現的問題因為像前陣子就是台中或彰化燈化爐碎修那有一些垃圾就佔置堆置那就會造成一些環境上的一些污染所以我希望針對這一部分能夠垃圾處理能夠這個效益能夠發揮更大 |
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這個我們會繼續努力有沒有一個多元垃圾處理計畫就再做一個文化爐整改或者我們做一個垃圾的整理整頓然後做一個合理的調度可以讓我們全國的廢棄物走向更完整266案改凍結100萬可併案科目可自行調整接下去審267案 |
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267案是邱政軍委員提案他已經簽名同意改減劣10萬元可併案那267案改減劣10萬那同意併案接下來續審268案268案是王玉敏委員所提案我們建議可以改減劣10萬元委員還沒簽名 |
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這一案我講一下因為還管署在114年你們的沒宣預算是100萬但是你們只花了79萬結果今年你又增加到260萬就是說你按照114年的執行率已經不加了那哪來又再提高預算 |
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所以我才會提出要檢列100萬是那因為我們今年開始要執行我們的那個智慧維理的那件事情那智慧維理需要說有一個所謂的更大的一個宣導更大的一個媒體的一個宣導智慧維理要宣導嗎是要做不是要宣導也是要宣導我們要讓這個所謂的那個不法的分子知道說我們有這一個政策在這邊他們才能達到一個嚇阻的功能 |
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對不法份子宣導這個邏輯蠻奇怪的一般你們環境部要宣導的對象應該是一般大眾該知道的事情那這種違法的事情做了就是抓他他他敢闖進來你的電子圍裏就是抓你怎麼會針對我們要讓他知道我們抓得到做就對了這個有需要花這麼大錢去做宣導嗎這個我不同意其實才一百多萬 |
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260萬 |
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因為其實這個讓大家知道有這個東西是有恐嚇的效果所以他講說我們也不知道犯法的人是誰啊也不可能特別針對犯法的人去做宣導是整個全面的一個宣導而且這個只是我不知道你們要不要說明一下這個一百多萬的編列的一個內容主要是具體是什麼請副署長再說明一下因為這個其實讓大家能夠放心能夠支持然後讓大家 |
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這個國會都支持你們做就對了而不是把錢放在宣導上面這個邏輯上很奇怪啊反而是你們應該花更多錢去做更多的電子維力這個我們都支持啊有 這個有的在做但是去宣導說我有電子維力叫那些不法分子不要輕舉妄動我覺得這個錢會不會太浪費不是這樣子花的啦對 請副處長再說明一下這個錢要怎麼去做使用是 |
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是是是在去年的時候我們是編250萬然後被統三所以說我們今年的話編列的預算的話是何時編列你們去年只花了79萬我的數字有錯嗎執行89萬執行89萬對啊這樣子好了減列60萬你們200萬去使用是 |
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268案減列60萬 接下來續審269案269 等一下那個剛剛268案可不可以讓我們那個項目自行調整科目自行調整268案減列60萬 科目可自行調整 接下來續審269案 |
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269案是邱政經委員所提案我們已經他已經簽名了我們改組決議改兩個月提書面報告組決議是在最後一項改變請環境部環境管理署以兩個月向立法院社會福利及衛生委員會提書面報告以上269案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審270案 |
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271案是廖偉祥委員所提議我們是建議改檢列20萬凍結20萬提書面報告委員還沒簽名因為廖偉祥現在那個委員不在那我們就先行保留接下來續審271案271案也是廖偉祥委員所提案已經簽名同意撤案271案撤案接下來續審272案 |
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272案是邱政軍委員所提議我們已經他已經簽名改組決議改兩個月提書面報告272案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審273案273案是廖偉祥委員所提議我們建議是能夠底線建議改凍結30萬兩個月提書面報告時而凍值那是委員還沒簽名 |
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因為廖偉強委員不在那就還是先行保留那接下來續審274案274案是邱政軍委員所提案我們委員已經簽名了改凍結10萬元科目可調整274案改凍結10萬那科目可自行調整現在續審275案275案是圖權局委員所提案文以簽名修正文字改組決議 |
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主決議的最後一段應該要講倒數12345第5行第5行於盤點完成後就各縣市所需要之載運能力之垃圾車最後再修最後一段請環境部於4個月向立法院向提出立法院社會局提出提出示範運行規劃書面報告 |
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275案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審276案276案是圖權局委員所提議也是一樣修正文字改組決議改兩個月提書面報告委員已簽名276案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審277案 |
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277案是林淑芬委員所提案委員以蓋章同意科目調整27款實木27款實項山木多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫可併案資料有嗎 因為我們手頭上沒有正本本在那邊 |
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他只有科目改嗎 有金額金額有沒有變金額只有科目改變好 另外切案 按照 |
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林淑芬委員提案科目凍結三千萬科目變成多元垃圾處理計畫的第二期計畫一般性環境保護補助文字沒有變嗎在爭取同意併納 |
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有同意併案好那同意併案277案同意併案那接下來續審278案278案是陳穎委員所提議已經簽名同意改簡列30萬科目調整第27款第10項第三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改凍結100萬科目調整為27款第10項第三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告 |
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改减列30萬 凍結100萬278案改减列30萬 凍結100萬那科目變成多元化垃圾處理計畫的第二期計畫的獎補助一般性環境保護補助 |
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那文案並按照行政機關剛才所唸文字通過接下來續審279案279案是王振興委員所提案修正文字科目調整第27款第10項第3目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫委員已經有簽名 |
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那王委員 謝謝主席 針對這個279案還是需要再說明一下我們知道現在這個極端氣候氣候變遷真的非常的嚴重所以複合性的災害發生的頻率不只變高幾乎快要變成日常所以這些災後的廢棄物的清理是災後復原的重大挑戰那我相信部長也非常清楚像 |
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去年的花蓮馬灘、艷澀湖異遊事件後來清除了淤泥跟垃圾覆膜在一起幾乎已經上達一百萬左右看起來要兩年才有辦法把它能夠處理得非常的完整所以目前這個如果使用戰制的方式真的非常的被動而且最擔心的是會造成二次的環境傷害 |
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所以很期待我們能夠針對於這些不同傷害的情境能夠有更完整的數據庫的建立同時也能夠像日本一樣因為他們已經有非常多的經驗可以讓我們台灣做參考所以很希望能夠在六個月裡面來建立 |
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臺灣災後會計務管理執行計畫同時要建立數據庫我們希望趕快把這個計畫處理好所以我們才提出這個希望能夠透過凍結的方式讓大家更用心的把這個工作準備好所以我是同意可以改變這個預算科目以上279案 |
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按照王振旭委員提案凍結50萬克木調整為第27款第10項第3目接下來續審280案280案是廖偉祥委員所提案我們建議是底線3我們的100萬凍500萬統一並按克木自行調整3個月內提出書面報告指責凍資委員沒簽名 |
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那280案先行保留接下續審281案281案是邱惠如委員所提案委員以簽名改動結150萬科目調整為27款第10項第三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告可併案那281案改動結 |
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改動節150萬 科目調整為第27款第10項第3目那並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過現在續審282案282案就如委員所提案委員與簽名同意改動節150萬科目調整為27款第10項3目對外垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告可併案 |
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4801.462 |
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4811.59 |
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那文資修正的時候 經同意後 經同意把它刪除我現在看文資網不只這樣是 |
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後面的話最後一段的文字有修正修正的話就是並就全台掩埋場結構安全監控及要求地方政府利用掩埋場等環保設施地點進行呼籲應符合相關工程規範 |
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兩百八十三案劉建國委員所提議 |
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委員已簽名同意改簡列50萬科目調整一般性環保環境保護補助環境管理01美質環境推動計畫科目可調整改兩個月提書面報告可併案283案改簡列50萬科目可自行調整然後並按照行政機關剛剛所念的文字通過接下來續審284案 |
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284案是陳雲委員所提委員以簽名改簡列30萬科目調整為27款第十項三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改凍結100萬科目調整為27款第十項三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告那284案改簡列30萬凍結改100萬 |
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4957.548 |
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那被按照行政機關剛剛所唸文字通過接下來需省285萬285萬是初清前委員所提案改組決議改兩個月提書面報告組決議的最後一段是環境部環境管理署應持續投入新型設施興建及延期新型太枝垃圾處理技術與達多元垃圾處理目標 |
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4959.24 |
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285案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審286案286案是林淑芬委員所提委員以蓋章科目調整為第二期款第十項第三幕多元垃圾處理計劃第二期計劃可並案286案凍結一千萬 |
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4986.209 |
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4996.553 |
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科目調整第27款第10項第3目接下來續審287案287案邱正均委員所提委員已簽名改動節500萬科目可調整可併案那287案改動節500萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審288案288案是邱正均委員所提委員已簽名改三個月提書面報告可併案 |
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5020.916 |
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5048.093 |
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288案凍結100萬那被按照新政機關剛剛所提文字所宣讀文字通過接下來續審289案289案廖偉祥委員所提建議能夠凍結70萬然後提書面報告以後適得凍結委員還沒簽名那289案先行保留接下來續審290案 |
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293是陳軍輝委員所提我們建議是能夠凍結100萬科目可自行調整可併案提書面報告時的凍置委員還沒簽名那陳軍輝委員 |
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5062.315 |
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5091.595 |
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好在跟環境部同仁溝通這個案子的時候呢同仁是有表示說當時這個風災所以嘉義的光電板被吹了到處都是然後很多是浸泡在水裡面的那環境部長就說是因為網路渲染的很過度所以有必要下去進行相關的檢測但是對比這個高雄的碼頭山啊大峽谷等等這個碼頭山的廢棄物已經堆置了半年以上 |
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5092.415 |
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5109.688 |
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那有另外一個黨的委員其實在我們立法院的這個會議室開過記者會帶著環團民團然後後來我們又有當地高雄的立委在邀請環境部一起下去考察那我覺得很難過的就是說看到那個自救會會長 |
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5137.647 |
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然後還有當地的居民、里民以及那邊的關心環境的這些居民啊他們是其實在那邊等了你們一個小時以上曬太陽然後也是希望你們可以採檢但是呢多次溝通都無效那我是希望這個報告裡面是可以制定一個標準就是到底是部長下令才可以檢測民眾或是立委陳情是不行到底是哪一個標準為什麼差別這麼多 |
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5140.87 |
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5149.146 |
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那這裡是希望報告裡面可以提到這個然後要經同意厚實的凍值那這邊我可以把它降到凍結500萬 |
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跟各位報告一下那個碼頭山那個事情的話就是說我們在114年的時候我們曾經對它的這個所謂的土壤跟地下水要進行這個採樣那地下水的部分因為鑽井鑽到50公尺的時候因為它地質的問題所以並沒有發現它有地下水所以這地下水就沒有辦法採樣 |
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那土壤的部分必須要經過那個上面的那個廢棄物清完了以後才能夠採土壤然後那個廢棄物有採過樣採過樣的話用TCRB判定的話它是無害性那委員剛剛所建議的所提到的就是說中央就是我們環境部何時會介入的話我們已經在擬定一個所謂的標準作為程序在什麼時候中央要介入這個所謂的監測跟分析 |
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好 那我們就把它改 等一下我們會等一下我會請同仁稍微修改一下就是裡面要列出主管機關怎麼樣的標準你們會願意做採檢然後就改成五百萬然後經同意後時得動值這樣子好 謝謝 可是剛文字有很多看聽起來是要修正 那我就先行保留好 先行保留 謝謝那290案先行保留 接下來續審291案 |
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291案是陳金輝委員所提委員已同意簽名改凍結100萬專案報告改書面報告可併案陳委員291案改凍結100萬並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下續審292案292案是陳金輝委員所提委員已簽名同意改凍結100萬專案報告改書面報告可併案 |
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5253.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
5275.508 |
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同意那292案改動結100萬並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審293案293案是陳金輝委員所提書面報告改書面報告改書中央報告改書面報告委員已簽名同意那293案按照陳金輝委員提案動結16萬 |
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5304.231 |
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並按照行政機關剛才所宣讀文字通過 接下來續審294案294案 陳軍威委員所提書面報告 專案報告改書面報告委員已經簽名同意同意294案 按照陳軍威委員提案 凍結十分之一並按照剛才行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審295案 |
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295案修正軍委員所提委員也簽名同意修正文字改組決議改兩個月提書面報告組決議裡面的最後一段請環境部環境管理署在兩個月內向提出全國清潔隊執勤安全及職場衝突改善方案295案改組決議必按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審296案 |
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296案是前經費委員所提修正文字改動100萬專案報告改書面報告那296案改動100萬那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審297案297案是邱政軍委員所提修正文字改組決議委員以簽名297案 |
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改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字組決議最後請環境部環境管理署採購電動車時應並同考量充電裝置設置以立執行公務 |
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那297案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審298案298案是廖偉祥委員所提我們是建議凍結100萬科目進行調檢可併案提書面報告委員還沒簽名那298案先行保留299案主席 各位請求發言 |
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好 謝謝就是針對我剛剛提到279案有關於 279案嗎 是就是我重新再確認一下對不起就是那個時候我們本來是用這個環境管理署這邊來做一個凍結的內容 |
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那後來同意改為科研化垃圾處理計畫裡面第二期計畫相關的這些費用處理不過我們希望說這樣的補助款的凍結其實是希望讓這個計畫可以順利的來推出所以我們 |
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希望把這個相關的這個費用的補助款的斷絕是不限於或者是不包括在這個地方政府的補助款這邊因為這個不只是279案一案相關的案子只有將近10個案子左右所以希望是不是也請問反正這邊可以同意讓這個 |
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多元處理計畫的這個部分的計畫可以說相關的處理的同時是不包括這個補助款是凍結在地方補助款部長可不可以來先來說明一下 |
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謝謝委員 因為這個計畫裡面本身就是幾乎是補助給地方的 非常的多那當然如果我們跟地方政府在已經大概一到五月都有一些討論計畫的承諾那其實如果說有刪減的話其實對地方的觀感也不好啦所以謝謝委員能夠幫地方政府能夠來爭取這樣的一個權益我們本部完全的支持 謝謝謝謝部長 謝謝主席 |
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好 那接下來我們繼續續審299案299案是劉建國委員所提 委員以簽名同意改檢列50萬科目可調整可併案299案檢列50萬科目可調整可併案併案照行政機關所宣 |
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你文字有 等於是一併就先讀文字 如果尤其是有簽名的建議刪除50萬並凍結文字刪掉待環境部對災時災後廢棄物以及劃定全國災區佔置地提出報告 |
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好 提出報告拿掉沒有提出報告299案檢列50萬 可併案科目可調整我還是沒有啊來 接下來續審三百案 |
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300案是林淑芬委員所提委員已蓋章科目調整第27款第10項第3目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫可併案金額有沒有變金額沒有變那300案按按林淑芬委員所提案凍結千萬 |
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科目改成第27款實項第三目那接下來續審301案301案是王育民委員所提我們建議凍結100萬科目可調整改一個月提書面報告可併案委員還沒簽名 |
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好 這一案我要說明一下這一案事實上蠻多委員也都有提出來那個立法院的預算中心也直接指出來這個你們針對二人溪河道廢棄物清理第二期的專案計畫你們編列了3.42億的獎補助但是呢 你這邊的違辦費你又編列了高達1398萬的違辦費 |
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你要去追踪管控办理民众参与及人力资源作业那你这一些追踪管控的工作本来就是应该政府的职责无论是地方政府或者是你环境部但是拿来又编了一笔高达1398万的尾半费这个显然就是经费重复编列这个有伏编之余这一点是绝对不能接受的所以我提出来的就是你们的 |
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这一个委办费的部分就是要减列500万那你们现在的说明我想我还是没有办法接受你现在可以再说一次你这1398万的委办费 |
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為什麼要重複編列監督管考的事情不是應該是環境部自己該去做的或者是你已經補助了台南市政府他們自己沒有去監督管考的能力啊還要再編一千多萬去找人家來管考這不是很荒謬嗎 |
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是跟委員報告一下這個編列委辦會的話分兩部分一部分的是台南市政府在執行一部分是我們在執行那那個環保局在執行就是台南市政府在執行的部分針對的是他的所謂的整治的場子那整治場子裡面他的整治的話應該分兩部分一個是他整治工程的進行所以他需要一個PCMC監督他另外的話整治過程中他自己那個部分的一些污染的整治的情形他也需要一個委辦公室那我們的部分是 |
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針對是區外意思就是說它裡面做的事情它會不會在影響外面整個大環境所以那個是我們做的這個解釋完全說不通一件事情要兩個單位並設單位然後編列1398萬再來做監督你們這個就是中央跟地方完全沒有整合嗎你們這個預算太普遍了這個沒有辦法 |
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報告委員因為這個案子其實是當地有河川巡守隊還有當地的環保的團體他們這個其實是成年的問題那我好不容易爭取到行政院的預算能夠來支持來做這個事情這個是額外我們爭取到的 |
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然後這個裡面是希望公民一起來參與來監督所以剛剛我們的副署長講到的是台南市他們有他們監督那我們是場外的監督因為這個地方是把現在其實那裡都已經蓋起來可是我們重新再把下面再開挖的時候一定會對當地的生態有一些擾動所以我們不希望這個擾動的過程當中再造成一次的環境的傷害所以要有這種所謂的團體尤其是要避開這個汛期來處理所以基本上是一個全民共同參與的一個監督 |
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場內跟場外都有一個方式來進行這邊跟委員說明一下報告主席因為我們是一樣的內容我們就一起講你說302嗎現在在講302但跟302是一樣的 |
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那我們就一起討論這邊要講因為部長剛有提到說是因為當地的居民民團怎麼樣的這就很諷刺了因為我剛也是舉了一樣的例子我剛也是舉了一樣的例子碼頭山的居民民團來立法院陳情一次衛國後來又再去考察一次也沒有用 |
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那因為這個二人席我就跟環境部調了他們所有以前有過的會議記錄這邊我有附件一到附件四那裡面有講到說這個已經是最高行政法院判決責任歸屬於台北市政府 |
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台南市政府台南市政府那行政院為了解決問題召開了我這邊有大概三次的會議記錄去講全責機關到底是誰負責那本案最後法院判決是地方台南市政府應該負清除的責任但是又考量二人席為中央管河川所以由中央負責就是補助就這樣子但責任歸屬是台南市政府我真的也是不懂為什麼環境部還要再編列一個業務費 |
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來做這樣子的事情所有事情起因是一個立法委員邱志偉辦公室的開會通知單那我想問現在我們全台灣有這麼多河川整治有問題是每一個立法委員都可以發這個開會通知單最後就可以找環境部編到業務費裡面 |
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裡面更奇怪的就是這個會議紀錄裡面寫得很清楚第一次開會是113年11月7號然後裡面的法規會審主委淑妃她說因為廢棄物就是廢棄在河床由河川水利署管理那水利署來了一個賴署長建信 |
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水利署說他說環境部環管署成立後應有能力來做他就推給環管署了水利署沒有補助經費然後以前他們編過結果被立法院糾正最後被監察院糾正以後被立法院凍結再來 |
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這個是環境部自己的官人環境部省次長智修他說本案無爭執是台南市政府概括承受本案權責很清楚是在地方政府目前台南市政府是環保局願意承擔從清除到處理都有該局執行 |
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好再來嚴旭明他就發言嚴旭明說環境部可以來協助但是清除責任現在是台南市政府如果去處找不到環境部可以找但是不會說任何的清除都有環境部來處理那他這邊講了一下這個水利署的說法最後呢 |
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結論是由經濟部水利署負責打包移除部分經費補助環境部負責只負責去化部分經費補助那再來是113年12月19號的會議記錄那當時也是這個在講這個法院判決的事情然後最後就說結論還是一樣就是補助因為他們就認定是台南市政府負責 |
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那我认为我跟王一鸣委员是一样的看法我这边是减列你们的业务费因为第一就是没有标准没有标准可言而且你们以前的发言记录所有的发言记录就是显示这个不是归你们管的再来你们环关署南区中心只有30个人你们负责的业务有7个县市 |
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所以你看平均每一個每四個同仁要負責一個這麼大的縣市然後你們把自己攬了一個這麼大業務幹什麼你們是要把這些環關署南區的同仁累死嗎所以我覺得就依照你們之前所有的會議記錄就好了中央政府只需要負責資金補助但是我覺得業務費我們這邊就是全數減劣 |
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這邊跟委員補充報告一下因為當時候的那個訴訟那訴訟的話有訴訟好幾個訴訟其中有一個訴訟跟剛剛委員有提到就是台南市政府跟我們的那個經濟部水利署第六河川管理局那最後經過法院判斷沒有錯法院是認為說這個所謂的因為他雖然是河川不過他是服務地所以他的管理單位他的那個所謂的管理的能力的話是我們這個所謂的 |
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臺南市政府比較強所以最後臺南市政府是敗訴那敗訴完了以後就是整個責任要由臺南市政府來扛那我們現在的話是因為說這個行政院他們有去做一個協調協調以後說這個污染還在所以還是要有人去做一個整治所以就是由我們環境部來進行這個整治所以呢標準何在因為全臺灣這樣子的狀況很多耶全部都可以請行政院開會協調給環境部做 |
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因為環境污染的事情還是要解決我覺得這個 |
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作為中央主管機關你們不可以去讀後或者是偏好哪個縣市或者是哪一條河川都不需要你就是有一個既定的標準對不對那該編列的河川整治的費用我想立法院都支持今天被立法院預算中心直接直指的就是你根本就是疊床架屋重複編列 |
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就是去巧立另外一個名目這個是不被允許的另外一個就像剛剛陳委員講的如果環境部已經要扛著你每一條河川都要扛起來部長你每一條河川你們都要做到如此經費編列的情況重複編列然後呢地方政府給他一大筆錢之後你們還要再花一筆錢 |
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千萬幾的經費然後再去做相關的監督跟管理跟守護的工作是這樣子嗎那你們應該把錢從地方政府如果沒有能力去監督管理錢直接扣下來啊你如果你中央比較有有有力量你們比較會監督那就由你中央來監督啊不可能一個事項怎麼會有中央跟地方 |
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同時編列經費然後同時去監督管理的事情中華民國政府我們的預算不可能是這樣子編列的這個預算中心都只指的是像你們就應該要檢討啊應該要檢討所以這個如果大家沒有共識的話先保留這件案子其實還蠻重大的好我這邊那我們就301 302一起保留 |
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好 301 302 案保留那接下去審303303案是邱政軍委員所提的委員已簽名 修正文字改組決議組決議的最後一段最後一段的話就是要確實執行環境監測環境監控及風險控管作業避免施工期間增加環境負擔及防範二次污染發生 |
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那第303案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審304案304案是盧縣議委員所提為以簽名改動節100萬科目可調整專案報告改成署名報告可併案 |
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那304案改動節100萬科目自行調整然後同意併案 併案照剛剛行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審305案305案是邱政軍委員所提 委員已簽名同意測案305案測案 接下來續審306案306案是邱惠如委員所提 修正文字改組決議改兩個月提書面報告 |
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306案改組決議委員以簽名並按照剛剛文字要不要宣讀書面報告的內容是委員會特別提出來是要提出澎湖縣環保局辦理情形那306案改組決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下去審307案 |
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307案是廖偉祥委員所提我們是建議凍結100萬 委員還沒簽名307案保留 接下來續審308案308案是陳勛輝委員所提修正文字改組決議 委員已簽名可以組決議環境管理署應明確區分與地方權責相依處並確實執行 |
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308案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審309案309案邱振軍委員所提 修正文字改組決議委員已簽名組決議內容是 請持續加強推動向海致敬計畫減少海洋廢棄物堆積量309案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審310案 |
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310案陳俊輝委員所提310案因為跟302案 301案是一樣所以就保留那310案先行保留 接下來續審311案311案是盧憲宜委員所提改凍結100萬專案報告改書面報告可併案原以簽名311案改凍結100萬可併案 |
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並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審311案改動結束100萬個並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審312案 |
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312案是陳清輝委員所提改動結100萬專案報告改書面報告委員已簽名312案改動結書100萬並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審313案313案是劉建國委員所提改檢列50萬科目可調整可併案委員已簽名 |
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313案改檢列50萬科目可調整並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審314案314案是遭遺所提修正文字改凍結100萬 委員已簽名 |
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環境部這邊我還是要去提醒你們有所謂 你們雖然推動性別友善廁所備增行動方案當然你們很特別 願意去推動這個也納入CITO的執行指標可是現行列管的名單存在非常嚴重的瑕疵高達50%的受查的廁所根本就不符合你當初基本設置的原則如果你要推性別友善 那你就應該要 |
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因為你沒有強調說要按照CITO的那個執行指標來做而且有挪用無障礙或親子廁所掛牌充數的現象排擠原有特定需求使用者的一個空間所以我們希望你們針對列管的新北友善廁所要實質盤點結果要給我們還有他不服定義者的要進行改善 |
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像我們在統一查核的時候 那個輔導標準跟查核人員的培訓機制要去處理是好那314案改動結束200萬 變動結束100萬 改動結100萬那314案改動結束100萬 |
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接下來續審315案315案是邱振均委員所提修改文字可併案文言已簽名文字有沒有修改修改文字最後倒數第二行具體成效改成辦理清醒那315案凍結100萬 |
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那可併案 並按照剛剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審316案316案是邱政軍委員所提改凍結100萬科目可調整改三個月提書面報告可併案委員以簽名316案改凍結100萬科目可調整並按照剛剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審317案 |
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317案是廖偉祥委員所提我們建議是動100萬同意併案科目自行調整三個月提出書面報告使得動之委員沒有簽名那317案先行保留接下來續審318案318案是林憲一委員所提修正文字改動節100萬科目可調整專案報告改成書面報告改三個月提書面報告可併案委員已簽名 |
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那318案改冻结100万科目可调整同意并案并按照刚行政机关宣读文字通过接下续审319案319案如现已委员所提修正文字改冻结100万科目可调整专案报告改书面报告改三个月提书面报告可并案委员已签名 |
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文字你要不要念 因為修改蠻多的文字從第四行開始提升原鄉地區垃圾處理及清印效能同時利用架設與關鍵交通節點之智慧為理比對異常清印行為強化執行效能並於三個月內提供書面 |
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319案改凍結100萬科目可調整同一併案並按照港海行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審320案320案是陳俊輝委員所提改凍結100萬書面報告改專案報告改書面報告改三個月提書面報告可併案 委員已簽名 |
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陳委員好那320案改凍結100萬並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審321案321案是邱政軍委員所提修正文字科目可調整改三個月提書面報告可併案委員已簽名321案凍結數100萬那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字 |
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通過然後統一併案科目可自行調整 接下來續審322案322案是吳麗華委員所提改凍結10萬科目可調整專案報告改書面報告改三個月提書面報告可併案 回應已簽名322案改凍結10萬科目可調整統一併案並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審323案 |
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323案是陳金輝委員所提改凍結100萬改三個月提書面報告可併案委員已簽名323案改凍結100萬同意併案並按照剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審324案324案是陳金輝委員所提改凍結50萬改三個月提書面報告委員已簽名可以 |
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本來是氣候變遷署變成環境管理署環境管理署好然後並同意也拿掉對不對是好那你可不可以再念一下好待環境部環境管理署向立法院社會福利及衛生委員會提出書面報告使得動之324案改動結50萬那 |
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並按照行政機關剛所宣讀文字通過 接下來續審325案325案是李建國委員所提 這個案子跟委員溝通還沒有達到共識那325案先行保留 接下來續審326案326案是王育民委員所提 |
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國會辦公室初步同意是要改組決議委員還沒簽名因為委員沒有同意所以這個也是關於那個垃圾處理這個部分必須監督這個環境部在因為我想很多委員提到的都是垃圾處理的問題這個部分必須監督這個環境部對於垃圾處理有關於那個裸露的垃圾山現在很多 |
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還是沒有辦法解決你們要加強所以這個部分原本是三檢案我現在可以改成動200萬是這個部分跟那個委員報告一下的預算執行率71.26%我知道後來你沒有解釋那個第二預備金對對對但是現在很多垃圾問題還是要持續監督所以改動200萬改動200萬是 |
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好那326案改凍結200萬接下去審327案327案是楊耀委員所提改凍結100萬科目可調整為27款第10項第三目多元垃圾處理計劃第二期計劃書面報告可併案 委員已簽名327案改凍結100萬科目調整為第27款10項三目接下去審328案 |
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328案是如現已委員所提 改動節100萬 科目調整為第27款 第10項 第3目 多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫專案報告改成書面報告 委員已簽名328案改動節100萬 科目調整為第27款 第10項 第3目 |
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接下來續審329案329案是邱惠如委員所提改動節500萬科目調整為二期款第十項第三目對垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫書面報告可併案329案改動節500萬科目調整為第27款第十項三目那可併案科目可自行調整接下來續審331案 |
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330案是邱惠如委員所提改凍結500萬科目調整為二十七款第十項第三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告可併案委員請簽名330案改凍結500萬科目調整為二十七款第十項三目可併案接下來續審331案 |
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331案邱振均委員所提科目調整為第27款第十項第三幕多元二十處理計劃第二期計劃改一個月提書面報告可併案委員以簽名331案凍結100萬科目可調整為27款十項三目那可併案 |
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329案329案 剛剛講邱委員的邱惠如議員所提我們在那331案 凍結100萬 科目可調整為第27款石箱杉木可併案 |
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那接下來續審332案332案是朱鎮軍委員所提 科目調整為27款10項3目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫改一個月提書面報告可併案 委員已簽名那332案凍結100萬 科目調整為27項27款第10項第3目那可併案 接下來續審333案 |
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333案是武林華委員所提修正文字改組決議我把那個修正文字部分最後是做一段請環境部加強跟產業部門及技術部門合作將整體再利用情形及規劃匯成成書面報告送本院社會福利及衛生環境委員會參考333案 |
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改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審334案334案是修正均委員所提修正文字科目調整為第二期款十項三目多元垃圾處理計畫第二期計畫可併案委員已簽名文字文字刪除第一段案由全刪那334案 |
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東捷100萬 科目調整為27款 第10項 第3目並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審335案335案是武麗華委員所提修正文字改三個月提書面報告文字修正部分是倒數第二行開始是 |
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將歷年管理系統成果評估及新就系統評估報告整合改為強化廢棄廢法棄置防治行為書面報告那把335案文字按照剛才我們的主管行政機關所提所宣讀文字通過接下來續審336案 |
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336案是張雅琳委員所提修正文字修正文字增加的部分增加了補助做事側肩要求加強清潔維護管理提升補助案行政效率等336案這委員還沒簽名那就先 王振旭委委員已簽名已經簽了可是我們這邊沒有 |
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是336案嗎對336案有簽名的東西要給我們喔 |
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來 請王委員先發言是 就是這個三百三十月案也是用針對這個公共廁所部分可以有效的改善這跟趙委所提的例子是有點類似那另外其實針對剛剛好多的案子都針對第27款第10項 第3目 |
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針對地方補助款有凍結或者是做其他的處理模式那剛剛部長也表示說期待在這個過程裡面是針對這個計畫本身有所凍結而不是去凍結這個27項27款第十項第三目的這些費用所以可能這邊也麻煩 |
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我們主席或者是再請部長這邊也能夠讓大家再確認好不好因為剛剛有太多太多相關的都是在這個項目之下來做處理是來336案我們再確認一下 |
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那我就先行保留那336案先行保留 接下來續審337案337案是黃秀安委員提案目前溝通的結果是凍結數改為50萬元6個月改成1個月 委員已簽名 |
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337案改凍結50萬那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審330 |
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在講338案之前 等一下那個併案我們要討論的時候請你們也去盤點一下不要影響到地方的那個補助款 等一併我們在併案的時候也要一併來解決接下來續審338案 |
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所以348案是王育民委員提案那溝通的結果三減數改為33萬那不凍結所以最後面兩行刪除那科目可以進行調整但是委員還沒有簽名王委員好這個部分呢我們發現這個國家環境研究所他的那個出國就是 |
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115年比114年就是從五項計畫增加到十項計畫這個是翻倍成長那這個我覺得有必要說明為什麼是翻倍而且這一些就是說出國考察的一些重點到底 |
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你們是得到一些哪些新的資訊 知識然後應該要回饋給這個委員會就是說你們的一些重點因為你們是翻倍嘛那我不知道那個需求為什麼突然是暴增你們原來只有五項會變十項這樣子 對 |
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是的我想跟委員報告因為國家環境研究院的前身是環境檢驗所跟環境檢驗訓練所那這方面就是檢驗技術來講考察會開會相對是比較少那變成國家環境院之後我想大家對我們的期待非常高尤其像這幾個新的研究課題包括超細全為例它要怎麼做怎麼監測這是我們其中一個案件是要去看這個另外一個是PFAS |
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那個檢驗上面也是非常複雜的所以這是其中新增的其中一項第二個就是也是我們在跟大祭司合作這邊有一個多音源的那個噪音因為現在噪音一台車過去可以去量但是我們現在都市密集的狀況有道路有鐵路有捷運那在民眾陳請的時候就多噪音源的那個鑑定它的難度非常高然後我會有機會出去看一看這個能不能 |
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有更好的檢測方式所以需要到國外再去看一看第三個是跟車輛溫室氣體排放的效能管制跟檢測甚至將來對車輛的遙測技術的引進這也需要實地去看第四個就實驗室的監督 |
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因為現在有轉型成功在環境研究院之後原來這些實驗室的監督仍然是我們一個很沉重的負擔目前有110家的實驗室左右那個管理上面的工作相當沉重他們到底國外這個實驗室是怎麼樣管理有更好的效能 |
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那最後一個增加就是說因為成立研究院之後呢我們也希望走出去跟國外的一些有關的研究機構能夠有一些合作的因為在這個綠色產業的發展方面呢能夠有機會合作所以那天到辦公室這邊溝通的時候我們都有一些比較不是那麼緊急的我們可以先刪掉就刪33萬以上報告好那就刪33萬那這個就我們可病患啊那個科目進行自己的調整謝謝委員 |
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那338案檢列33萬可併案那接下來續審339案 |
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339案是區委員提案目前溝通結果改為主決議最後面的文字倒數第二行原動結那邊刪掉就是原請國家環境研究院於兩個月之內提報後面的書面報告後時的動作刪掉以上報告339案改主決議邊遭行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審340案 |
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340案是蘇清泉委員提案目前三減金額改為300萬可併案在文字上面最後一行這邊原先三減預算20%改為三減預算300萬科目應用自行調整那340案改減列300萬可併案我們簽名了 |
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可不可知情調整 接下來續審341案341案是廖偉強委員的提案目前是談過了是凍結100萬 但委員還沒有同意簽名那341案先行保留 接下來續審342案 |
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那麼4月2日委員已經簽名是陳欽英委員的提案改成主決議所以在1月2日倒數第4行開始有一些文字修正就是國家環境研究院參與國科會之相關部會合作平台然後那個協調那個刪掉就是刮胡包刮然後後面是不改然後最後在研究機構這邊一個括號 |
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342案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下去審343案 |
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實際上是廖偉祥委員提案經過溝通之後同意改成主決議在文字上面倒數第三行原建立凍結那邊全部刪除改成應精進規劃策站位置並持續累積不同風場之數據逗點 |
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強化空間差異顯著污染成分之解析能力逗點以提升空氣品質管理之科學支撐基礎據點343案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審343案343案委員已經簽名讓您改成就是凍結改成10萬 |
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然後最後倒數第三行的原凍結該項預算10萬元後面的專案報告改成書面報告並經同意刪除344案改凍結10萬並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下去審345萬 |
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345案是吳立華委員提案同意改成組決議所以那個凍結數那邊就刪掉那最後文字的部分就是原請國家環境院中間那個刪除了一個月然後提出書面報告那個後始的凍資刪除那345案改組決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審346案 |
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346案是盧憲毅委員提案委員已經簽字改成主決議所以前面的那個上面刪除的部分全部刪除後面文字的部分先行凍結一千萬元這個刪掉然後補進去請國家環境研究院研究於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
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提出後面那個平台等等然後專案報告改成書面報告經同意後時的動之刪除346案改組決議並按照 |
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行政機關宣讀文字通過接下去審三百四十七案三百四十七案經過溝通之後呢這是邱振金委員提案改成凍結十萬元所以改了文字就是凍結跟預算十萬元那在送件的過程那個不小心有一個主決議那個刪掉就那個手寫的上面那個刪掉這是凍結十萬元 |
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三百四十七案改凍結十萬那接下來續審三百四十八案三百四十八案是曾經委員提案目前委員已簽字改成三減八十萬元然後凍結數改成一百萬元科目自行調整所以底下文字接倒數第二行裡面五百改成八十然後三百萬改成一百萬以上 |
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348案改簡列80萬科目可調整改凍結100萬一項科目可調整接下來續審349案349案是廖偉祥委員提案溝通結果同意改成主決議所以上頭這些凍結數全部刪除那另外文字的部分就是建議凍結那個刪掉原請國家環境研究院 |
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於兩個月內針對上述理由提出書面報告就這樣 349案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審350案350案是召委的提案改成組決議文字的部分就是倒數 |
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第四行並於一個月內提出書面報告那個劃掉然後在原動解那個刪掉最後就是請國家環境研究院一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告然後後面刪掉好350案改主決主決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審350案 |
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351案經過溝通結果這是邱會務委員提案溝通結果是改成凍結10萬元所以後面倒數第二行文字改成凍結預算10萬元委員已簽名351案改凍結10萬那接下來續成352案 |
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350案是區會議員提案 溝通結果同意改成主決議在倒數第二行開始 原動結兵全部刪掉請國家環境研究院就塑膠微粒檢測技術發展現況於三個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告 後面刪掉 |
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350案改組決議 並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審353案353案是邱委員提案 目前溝通結果同意改成組決議 |
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倒數第二行那邊前面文字凍結的那個刪掉就請國際環境研究院就氣質案件的檢測技術協助所扮演角色於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告後面後期的動之刪除 |
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353案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過,接下來續審354案354案是楊耀委員提案公共結果同意凍結數改為50萬元所以文字的修正上頭刪掉之後,這邊有一個刪減改成凍結50萬元後面並經同意後,使得凍資刪除,還有科目和自行調整 |
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354案改 凍結50萬 科目可調整並按照行政機關剛宣讀 文字通過我們先休息五分鐘 謝謝 |
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接著進行環境部主管基金預算主案討論就委員提案59案每案先請行政單位說明接著請委員表示意見第一案第一案是邱振軍委員的提案跟委員辦公室溝通後改成主決議那委員已經簽名 |
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那修改內容原提案最後一段刪除然後改成環境部由公務及基金分攤請該部定期檢視滾動分攤合理性以上報告而第一案改組決議並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審第二案 |
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第二案是蘇清泉委員提案就是經委員同委員已經簽名原來是凍結5%那經委員同意以後改簽為凍結3%由陳景輝委員代簽那改三個月提書面報告對基金 |
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第二案改凍結3%文字有修正嗎文字的部分就是在倒數第二行原預算凍結3%於三個月內恰相關部會向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告後是的 弄指 |
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好第二案改凍結三%並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下續審第三案第三案是邱惠入委員所提那經委員同意簽名同意改凍結一千五百萬科目可調整專案報告改書面報告可併案 |
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第三案改凍結一千五百萬科目可調整被按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來需審第四案第四案是陳金輝委員提案那經委員同意該筆預算改凍結一百萬然後市環境部於三個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告時的動之 |
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好 第四案改凍結一百萬並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審第五案第五案是劉建國委員提案那這個案子經委員同意呢改三減五十萬那文字的部分是原來凍結文字刪除就直接寫三減五十萬科目可自行調整可並案 |
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第五案改簡列五十萬科目可調整改凍結零元案並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審第六案 |
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第六案是蘇清泉委員提案本案經委員同意簽名原預算原簡列改成凍結一千萬於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生委員會提出書面報告後時的動質科目可自行調整可併案第六案改凍結一千萬科目可調整可併案必按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審第七案 |
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第七案是劉建國委員提案那因為這個案子委員堅持我們是建議保留送協商好第七案先行保留接下來續審第八案第八案是楊耀委員提案那經委員簽名同意那就是改成 |
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改成凍結一百萬科目可調整可併案第八案改簡列零元凍結一百萬那項目可調整可併案接下來續審第九案 |
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第九案是邱政軍委員提案那經委員同意改組決議那組決議的文字修正就是原來的倒數兩行文字刪除改成原請環境部於三個月內提出總量管制執行成果書面報告致立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會第九案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審第十案 |
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第10案是陳金輝委員提案那經委員簽名同意原凍結10%改成凍結100萬第10案改凍結100萬接下來續審第11案 |
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第十一案是王玉敏委員提案那經王委員同意本案改凍結兩百萬王委員那簽名在剛剛委員有簽名有沒有文資修正就是只有那個原來是凍結一千萬改成兩百萬這樣子好第十一案改凍結兩百萬可不可調整嗎還有可併案嗎 |
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科目可調整可併案第十一案改凍結兩百萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審第十二案第十二案是邱政軍委員提案那邱委員提凍結一百三十萬金委員簽名同意改成主決議那主決議 |
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主決議文字就是刪減原來的這個第二倒數兩行就原期環境部於三個月內提出總量管制執行成果書面報告自立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會第十二案改組決議必按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下去審第十三案 |
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第13案是陳金輝委員提案 原提案凍結預算10%經委員同意簽名然後改成凍結100萬第13案改凍結100萬 接下去審第14案 |
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14案是邱振軍委員提案原提案凍結250萬經委員簽名同意改成主決議主決議文字的調整是原提案內容倒數兩行做調整就是改成請環境部於一個月內向社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出老舊車輛污染改善精進做法書面報告 |
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第十四案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審十五案 |
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第15案是邱政軍委員提案原提案凍結150萬後經委員簽名同意改成主決議主決議文字是修正原提案的倒數兩行改成請環境部於一個月內向社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出老舊大型柴油車污染改善措施書面報告 |
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第15案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審16案 |
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16案是劉建國委員提案原提自檢列100萬凍結1000萬後經委員簽名同意改成主決議那主決議的文字就是從第二段開始此一問題環境部應積極快速的面對室內空瓶首要處重新檢視室內空瓶法同時一應建立跨部會室內環境健康治理平台 |
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第四 還有就是為學校幼兒園托嬰中心長照機構醫療院所等場所規模較小人力及檢測經費不足 建請環境部推動分級管理保障敏弱族群室內空氣品質之安全然後倒數兩行改成於三個月內提出室內空氣品質管理法修正重點書面報告 |
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第十六案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審十七案十七案是洋藥委員提案原提案是檢列一百萬凍結一百萬經委員簽名同意改凍結一百萬科目可調整可併案第十七案改凍結一百萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審第十八案 |
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第18案是陳金輝委員提案那陳委員提案是凍結預算10%後金委員簽名同意改凍結100萬第18案改凍結100萬接下來續審第19案第19案是王玉民委員的提案那我們是建議王委員是不是可以改凍結300萬那可併案那王委員 |
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好 謝謝委員 那我們這個就是可併案 那就是科目名稱是資源回收管理計畫那第第19案改凍結300萬元那接下來續審第20案可併案嗎 等一下 可併案嗎 那個王委員那第19案 |
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改凍結300萬可併案 接下來續審第二十案第二十案是陳金輝委員提案那我們是建議改凍結120萬元那委員有簽名了那第二十案改凍結100萬那接下來續審第二十一案第二十一案是劉建國委員提案那是跟委員同意呢改簡列50萬元科目可調整 調整為資源回收管理計畫那可併案 |
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那第二十一案改檢列五十萬科目可調整那科目調整資源回收管理計畫改凍結零人那接下來續審第二十二案第二十二案是王玉民委員提案那我們是建議是否可以改凍結三百萬元科目可調整那提書面報告可併案王委員這一案應該還是要檢列檢列一百萬委員可以檢列五十萬 |
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是不是可以少一點 檢列100萬好 檢列100萬 那委員可不可以科目調整為資源回收管理計畫好 謝謝委員那第22案改檢列100萬 那改檢...科目調整為資源回收管理計畫我們的資源回收管理計畫是 |
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接下來去審第23案23案是劉建國委員提案那委員這邊同意改檢列50萬元科目可調整為資源回收管理計畫可併案改檢列50萬可併案科目調整為資源回收管理計畫 |
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接下來續審二十四案二十四案是楊耀委員的提案那委員這邊同意改凍結兩百萬元科目調整為資源回收管理計劃可併案那二十四案改凍結兩百萬科目調整為資源回收管理計劃可併案接下來續審二十五案 |
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25萬是陳金威委員的提案那我們委員這邊是同意改凍結200萬元那這個時間呢是改為一個月提出書面報告那第25萬改凍結200萬 |
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並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來續審二十六案二十六案是主決議 是邱正軍委員的主決議那我們這邊是遵照辦理二十六案按照邱正軍委員提案通過 接下來續審第二十七案 |
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27案是王一鳴委員所提修正文資科目調整為土壤及地下水不完整治計畫科目可調整改檢列100萬可併案剛有簽名簽名了是第27案改檢列100萬文字 |
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有調整嗎文字調整在第三倒數第三行簡列該預算一百萬後面全部刪除 |
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好那接下來續審第28案28案是修正軍委員所提修正文字改簡列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水亂整治計劃科目可調整可併案這文已簽名接下來報告一下那個最後文字調整的部分最後倒數第二行簡列500萬請環境部積極督辦相關作業以上 |
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第28案改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計劃可併案接下來續審第29案29案是區會盧委員所提修正文字改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計劃科目可調整可併案29案改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計劃 |
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那可併案文字最後調整是倒數第二行檢列該科目500萬元是環境部向立法院社會福利及衛生委員會提出書面報告好 接下來續審第30案第30案是邱瑞儒委員所提修正文字改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水無人整治計畫科目可調整可併案 |
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文字調整是在倒數第三行倒數第三行是檢列五百萬並提出書面報告三十案改檢列五百萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計畫科目可調整可併案接下來續審第三十一案三十一案是劉建國委員所提 |
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同意修正文字科目調整和圖案及地下水無案診治科目可調整改檢列五十萬可併案最後文字調整是最後倒數第二行建議三檢五百萬元請環境部加強提升圖案無案評估調查人員訓練 |
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第31案改檢列50萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計劃可併案 接下來續審32案32案是修正軍委員所提修正文字改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治科目可調整可併案文字調整是最後倒數第二行檢列500萬後面文字全三 |
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第32案改檢列500萬科目調整為土壤及地下水污染整治計畫科目可調整可併按 接下來續審第33案33案王委員所提那已經初步溝通 王委員已經同意改凍結50萬科目可調整那增加一個解凍條件就是提出書面報告 使得凍資第33案改凍結50萬科目可調整 |
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並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審34案34案林委員所提經過溝通之後已經同意簽名改檢列50萬元然後提案文字修正修正的地方是在最後一段然而在115年的編列預算中環境部因以水汙染防治及檢測對PFAS有更積極的作為原建議刪減50萬元 |
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第三次案改簡列五十萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審第三十五案三十五案而邱委員所提那是主決議我們我們遵照辦理第三十五案按照邱正軍委員提案通過接下來續審三十六案 |
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36案是蘇清泉委員的提案已經同意改為主決議那文字修正從第11行開始超商OK便利商店領取80萬後面全部刪除直接到請環境部於一個月內提供運動休閒推廣協會及北美環教協會近三年的結案報告然後送立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
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以上第三十六案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審三十七案三十七案也是蘇清泉委員的提案經溝通已經同意改組決議委員也有簽名那文字修正倒數一二三倒數第四就是櫻花在刀口上發揮更大效益後面刪除然後結圓於一個月內向立法院社會福利 |
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及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告以上第37案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下去審38案38案是王玉明委員的提案那溝通以後是同意凍結100萬那可併案科目可自行調整然後文子有稍微修正倒數第二行的部分就是 |
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信業務之後 應再配合重大政策你們的東西資料我待會唸完馬上 |
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重大政策或新增全國性重大專案的情況下 使得編列經費原凍結一百萬 其餘三個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告後 使得凍結 以上第三十八案改凍結一百萬科目可調整可拼案並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審三十九案 |
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三十九案是楊耀偉提案溝通結果委員同意改為主決議簽名在文字的部分在倒數第三行原始之後刪除一直到環境部前面加請環境部於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告那後面幾個字刪除以上 |
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第39案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審40案40案是陳靜溫委員提案那公共結果委員您簽名同意改為組決議所以那個凍結書那邊刪掉那文字的部分再倒數第二行開始原始後面刪掉請環境部於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告那後面的文字刪除 |
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第四十案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下去審第四十一案四十一案是邱政軍委員提案已同意改組決議那文字修正就是倒數第二段全部刪掉然後最後變成請環境部於一個月內向社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告以上 |
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第41案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審第42案第42案是劉建國委員提案公共結構委員已經簽字同意改改組決議文字修正在倒數第二行開始原請環境部於一個月內含送具體補助方式至立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
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第40案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下續審第43案 |
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43案是由黃秀芳委員所提案那委員已經簽字同意我們把凍結數改成50萬元可併案科目可自行調整修正的文字在最後倒數第二行原始提案凍結50萬元環境部向社團委員會於二個月內提出書面報告以上第43案改凍結50萬科目可調整可併案併案照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下去審第44案 |
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44案是王育敏委員提案那委員已同意改凍結200萬元那麼文字修正委員已簽名那修正後的文字末段改為預算增加原因上代說明原凍結專業服務費預算200萬元向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提書面報告後時的動之第44案改凍結200萬 |
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按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來續審第45案45案是邱政軍委員提案改組決議並文字修正 讓委員已簽名組決議的文字是末段文字修正為環境部應允於三個月內向社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告 |
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第45案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審第46案46案是陳瑩委員提案那改凍結100萬元委員已同意簽名 |
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文字沒有修正第46案改凍結100萬元接下來續審47案47案是王玉明委員提案改刪減100萬元那委員已簽名那因為是刪減所以文字在提案的文字後段有關解凍條件都刪除就是只有到那個導致台灣檢探目標難以達成這樣後面刪除 |
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好第47案改簡列100萬元接下來續審第48案48案是邱政軍委員提案改凍結100萬元那文字有修正那委員已簽名那修正的部分就是最末段把這個改成凍結100萬元然後提書面報告就據點 |
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第48案改凍結100萬科目可調整可併案並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審49案49案是陳金輝委員提案改凍結100萬元那委員已簽名文字沒有修正 |
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49案改凍結100萬接下來續審50案50案是陳盈委員提案改凍結300萬元那委員已簽名那文字的部分的有修正就是把那個提案刪減的部分刪掉然後改為凍結300萬元 |
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第五十案改動結三百萬並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審第五十一案五十一案是劉建國委員提案改為刪減五十萬元然後可並按科目自行調整並且有文字修正委員已提案修正的部分是在最後一段中上建議刪減五十萬元後面的解凍條件就刪掉 |
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第五十一案改簡列五十萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審第五十二案五十二案是邱政軍委員提案改凍結一百萬元那文字有修正那委員已簽名那修正的部分就是末段凍結一百萬元是環境部於三個月內向社環委員會提報書面報告或是的動之第五十二案改凍結一百萬科目可調整 |
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並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過可並按接下來續審...因為人數不夠所以 署長先坐下來好了 謝謝 |
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好繼續處理 接下來續審第53案53案是邱政軍委員提案那就是凍結100萬元然後文字有修正修正的部分就是改成書面報告那委員已簽名第53案凍結100萬科目可調整 |
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那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過可並案接下來續審第54案54案是劉建國委員提案是主決議那我們是遵照辦理只是文字有一個修正就是末段這個專案報告改成書面報告委員已簽名第54案按照劉建國委員提案通過文字著修按照行政機關所宣讀的文字 |
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那接下來續審五十五案五十五案是陳一文的提案那委員這邊同意改為主決議那我把文字的修正宣讀就是在後面的地方先請環境部那把後面資源循環署資源循環管理基金向下六百萬元特提出如何這個刪掉就是先請環境部針對外籍勞工勞動強健那後面都一樣 |
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第五十五案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來續審五十六案五十六案是舒清泉委員的提案那委員這邊同意改組決議那這個文字部分呢就是在後段 |
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建議為中華民國納稅人這個三調改為同時應加強廢人胎處理的循環再利用以及技術的創新研發與提升以維護環境安全及資源循環穩定運作請環境部於一個月內向立法院社會委員會提出書面報告第56案改組決議並按照行政機關 |
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剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審第57案57案是邱政軍委員的提案那委員這邊同意改為組決議那這個也改為一個月提書面報告那我把這個修正文字做個宣讀在最後一段呢改為請環境部於一個月內向社團委員會提出改善書面報告第57案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 |
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接下來續審第58案58案是如現依委員所提修正文字並經委員簽名主決議我念一次第三段開始第三行開始考量原鄉親絕對多為在地主人擔任其面臨之職業災害風險 |
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遠高與平地都會區建請環境部專案協助園鄉公所落實清潔隊職業安全衛生管理加強垃圾清運車輛保養維護保障清潔隊員之工作安全請環境部以三個月內提出書面報告第58案按照如縣議召委所提案那著秀文字1我們行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審59案 |
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第59案是邱政軍委員所提遵照辦理第59案按照邱政軍委員提案通過接下來我們審查環境部財團法人預算主案討論機有委員提案兩案每案先請行政單位說明接著請委員表示意見那第一案第一案是邱政軍委員的提案那已經同意撤案 |
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第一案撤案 接下來續審第二案第二案也是邱政軍委員的提案已經遵照辦理 委員已經簽名了第二案按照邱政軍委員提案通過請問在場委員是繼續進行第二輪審查還是要先休息用餐 |
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好 那有關環境部主管公務預算案第一輪已審查完畢那現在針對保留部分的提案進行第二輪審查現在先進行公務預算保留部分的主案討論 每案先請行政單位說明接著請委員表示意見來 第五案 |
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他們有新的嗎?有已經溝通好的嗎? |
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因為委員不在那委員不在通常廖爾元就是不移除 |
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因為廖偉祥委員今天不在我這邊廖偉祥委員有請我幫他保留一些他的案子的編號那還是我先提供給編號就是他的案號用第二輪的話就不處理喔第二輪昨天就已經有宣告我有我有 |
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對對對 現在到第幾啊要主案處 主案處可以提出來提案委員 除非提案委員跟他要求 |
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我們先休息五分鐘 |
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好,我們繼續開會,那一樣第一案第一案委員有沒有,因為這是第二案行政院說明一下,因為沒宣費,現在那個已經減多少錢 |
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請行政機關說明一下歐委員這邊的提案是要來這個檢列我們的煤宣費那我們是建議可以改為主決議因為煤宣費是我們在環境部需要來這個推動那改變民眾然後讓社會大眾來宣傳永續一個還有循環經濟還有減碳的觀念 |
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那請委員支持好 那歐委員不好意思 我先看一下那個提案 但我剛才摸不上基本上啦 我對於沒宣費的看法是你們業務做得好 就不需要花那麼多錢去做宣傳更何況呢 我們看到過去勞動部的其實整個宣傳績效也不好所以本席在這邊的話是堅持今天是環境部 不是勞動部啊 對不起 環境部 對不起 環境部那麼 |
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所以我這邊提案是刪除597萬嘛對不對刪除597萬而且你們今年有增加597萬然後其實不需要增加這筆費用那維持去年的額度就可以了 |
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再加上现在政府的举债4000亿然后又不断的扩大国防军购的预算所以整个的政府经费支出应该要专节使用那在这里的话本席是提案要减列597万 |
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拜託 跟您委員報告一下因為現在我們的這個推動這個減塑限塑也需要民眾的配合那現在最後一路就是市場或是零售的攤商那這個也需要民眾有明確的認知那我們現在的管道呢透過本部很努力的作業只不過能夠在網路上面去推動 |
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所以是不是還是請委員給我們因為我們在整個政府的廣宣的預算裡面才佔零點幾%而已非常的少所以也拜託委員能夠不要給我們刪掉這麼的多因為這個如何讓民眾養成習慣都需要一個長期的更有大量的一個投入那如果我們連這個都沒有的話其實我們很難說設定一個很強力的一個減碩的一個制度甚至說永續或是各種的循環經濟也都需要一個相關的一個配合的宣傳 |
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那我們本部的宣傳也從來沒有偏頗或是某方面的一個單位然後基本上都是按照實質上的再去做推動也請委員可以支持 |
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因為環境事實上是民生議題又要民眾做到然後民眾又不知道而且像檢授這個我會認為真的事實上是對社會大眾來講很重要尤其是檢授這個課題一直以來民眾到底接收到多少訊息所以我認為應該要去做考量來 秀凡委員我是不是建議就是說這個 |
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就是這一案就是請環境部繼續溝通那是不是就保留送協商對就保留送協商接下來第五案 |
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第五案是王玉敏委員提案原三檢是檢列一億元金跟王委員報告委員同意改檢列五百萬元委員已簽名好那第五案改檢列五百萬元接下來來第十三案 十四案 |
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14案已經有跟委員辦公室有初步的一個溝通那初步也同意改動結三百萬元那提書面報告那科目可調整有簽名嗎委員沒有簽名對那他今天不再有其他委員任否則我們就要第二輪就不予處理對我是我剛問他對他沒有簽名所以 |
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有跟衛研辦公室溝通那原來原來是溝通凍結100萬元後來有電話有聯絡說改凍結300萬元那我們也同意對那提書面報告 |
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對 還沒簽 對不起我跟主席報告一下就是為了節省主席還有各位委員的時間因為這邊有廖偉祥委員他希望可以保留送協商的編號那我剛剛也跟建議溝通完畢我是不是就直接把他的編號他要保留14案 16案 |
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不好意思 這都是妳自己有簽署的嗎因為我們現在確定妳有簽的14 14 16還有勒14 16 25 27 326993307 |
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273 289 298 317 280 3411 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13總共14案那還是要請我們意思是不是 |
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因為我要確定是不是你這邊才可以還是程序所以等我們再來處理這確定你這些剛休息時間我有跟建議看過但是我們可以再查第二次我們可以再查第二次對我們要確定你是不是共同提案人才可以主張所以我要確認對啊 |
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那現在確定14案保留接下來16案保留接下來續審18案 |
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十八案經溝通結果委員提案已經同意改組決議那修正文字那修正的文字我這邊做一個先讀在第二段的第二行轉為能後面多增加一段文字並對細色錯誤意味問題提出精進的改善作為 |
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那後面的倒數嚴固建議凍結那段後面的文字都刪掉好第18案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來據審20案 |
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二十二是陳金輝委員提案有關我們的科技計畫剛剛有持續在跟委員溝通那委員昨天是希望我們針對說會持續辦理的項目和檢討要改進的項目我這邊大概跟委員說明一下我們會持續辦理大概是跟人民的生活有關的大概就是必食飯桌然後那個 |
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綠色旅遊的示範區然後綠色生活先行區還有清推實驗還有學校教育生活探足機的計算機還有素養調查這個我們會持續辦理那會檢討的做法大概是綠色辦公 |
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那個我們會調整他的方式就是引導企業能夠自己把它生活化那第二個就是有關114年補助USR這個經費我們已經投入綠領人才所以這個我們這邊也不會再持續在辦理那114年長社展的部分未來我們可能就是會結合其他本來既有的展覽我們 |
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來去提升它的效益就不會再多花錢在這個方面那另外惠本的巡演我們會結合原來的環境教育的基金他們已經有在做相關學校劇場演出或者是校園的那個劇場演出我們就結合在一起就不會用這個計畫的錢再繼續然後另外那個 |
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有科研有研發 那個葉光才可我們就不再處理了主席我先這樣子提議因為他早上給我的報告跟他現在唸出來的東西是他還沒有時間把它整理出來所以我們是不是你是要今天決定的話我們就動一千萬然後之後我們一起討論報告然後經同意後我們就動之 |
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因為我覺得你現在可能還沒有時間把你剛講的東西整理出來委員動的錢可不可以少一點然後我們後面一樣是可以跟討論檢討提報告主席我們就持續協商好了先保留我們會再繼續協商因為你剛講的東西是跟你早上給我的報告沒有在裡面的所以我現在一時半刻沒辦法 |
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那我們等一下稍後就提供資料給委員好那我們再持續協商一下這案什麼意思我們就保留到協商保留到協商那第20案保留協商那接下來我們的續審25案剛剛已經講說要保留協商27案那接下來續審28 |
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28年劉建國委員的提案劉建國委員已經簽名三五十萬文字有修正的部分是把後面那個凍結五百萬後面這些文字都刪除故建議刪減五零零千元以上報告 |
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第二十八案改檢列五十萬那接下來續審三十二案保留嗎 接下來續審三十三案那三十三案是汪委員提案啦 這個有關這個 我們這個購買副首長的公務車有編列一百九十五萬元啦 這個是按照行政院主席總署的規定 而且我們的 |
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這個車子這個今年已經滿10年那也超過15萬公里那完全符合規定所以懇請委員可以支持不要刪減這個預算 以上報告好 請問委員我想這個在行政院主計總署頒布的 |
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規則理念 公務車可以辦理貸款基本上要屆滿15年那這部車基本上到目前為止只用了9年10個月好吧 就算是用了10年那麼事實上 本市認為說沒有必要再換一部新的車而且要再花差不多195萬 將近200萬 |
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那現在政府舉債高達四千多億然後國防預算不斷的擴大每年都近乎上兆的預算所以各個機關部會都應該要經費遵截使用所以本席不同意這個可以就是汰換汽車 謝謝報告委員因為這個台灣 |
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把公共車汰換成電動車是政府的政策也是符合淨零減碳的目標所以我們這部車的汰換也已經有被列管了今年應該要汰換了剛剛委員提到說15年以上是它汰換的條件之一它另外有其他的條件包含10年以上15萬公里也是符合汰換的條件 |
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這個經費的編列也是主計總數的同意我們才能夠編到我們的預算裡面去所以還是懇請委員是不是可以支持或是做一些刪減不要全部都全部都不同意那這樣我們這輛車就沒辦法做貸款以上 |
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好 我基本上也不認為說我們現在民進黨政府政策裡面所想的全部都汰換電動車是一個正確的方向畢竟現在電動車還有很多的問題而且我們台灣的電動車已經它的這個費用是高於全世界非常非常多在其他國家也許五六十萬七八十萬就可以買得到我們台灣要花 |
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將近三倍的錢 事實上這個就是已經是一個浪費的一個政策那麼如果說是考慮到就說是車子的汰換有這個必要性那我也不認為說一定要汰換到電動車花195萬現在Hybrid也可以所以如果這樣的話我同意就是說是可以減列50萬是還是讓你們可以汰換是 |
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剪裂40萬嗎剪裂40萬好不好報告委員是不是可以剪裂40萬是不能換電動車喔先生如果說剪裂的話你們還是要換電動車 |
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我們我們因為對所以基本上就是你們還可以繼續使用啊簡單來說我也是我想就這個議題就不用再爭執了那就不用換吧就繼續用等到我們的這國債比例經費下降了之後然後各機關然後再考慮要不要換車所以簡列50萬 |
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這樣這一題要不然就保留宋協商好了可能看起來現在大家也沒辦法達成共識那就保留宋協商接下來我們去審48案 |
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48案是由劉建國委員的提案那劉建國委員這個案子已經簽字同意我們改3減50萬元那文字修正的部分呢就是關於3減50萬元之後的文字全部刪除以上報告 |
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48案改3減50萬並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來49案對不起劉建榮委員有三個案子我同時也都是連署人包括有現在嗎因為我們現在48案他已經有改過是我說針對227 325跟227325 |
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227.325還有基金7227.325這三案還有基金的第七案都能夠保留協商謝謝 |
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那接下來49案49案是療藥委員的提案那療藥委員已經簽字同意我們本案改成凍結50萬元可併案可不可自行調整那文字修正的部分呢建議凍結50萬元環境部因兩個月內提交書面報告送本委員會以上所以改凍結50萬是好那49案改凍結50萬 |
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並按照行政機關剛剛宣讀文字通過接下來五十一案五十一案邱惠如委員已經簽名了 凍結一百五十萬五十一案凍結改凍結凍結一百五十萬嗎五十一案改凍結一百五十萬那接下來續審 |
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五十七案 劉建國委員提案凍結一百萬提書面報告已經委員已經簽名了那五十七案改凍結一百萬並按照剛宣讀文字通過接下來續審六十六案 |
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66案是邱惠祿委員所提凍結1000萬那這個委員已經簽名然後科目可自行調整可併案還是凍結100萬1000萬嗎對是的那第66案凍結1000萬那可併案科目可自行調整那接下來續審67案 |
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67案是邱慧如委員所提凍結1000萬目前還是維持凍結1000萬然後科目可執行調整可並動另外文字的部分在提案內容倒數第三行原來是減減原來文字寫簡略改成凍結然後最後一行就提書面報告並經同意並經同意那四個字刪除以上報告第67案 |
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凍結一千萬可並案科目可自行調整並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來69案69案有初步跟委員辦公室報告然後是可以那這個是保留的那我們就不討論來接下來71案 |
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七十一案的部分是劉建國委員提案那經委員簽名同意就是改三減五十萬那文字做調整也就是原始建議三減五百千元那後面的文字並凍結等等這些文字做刪除然後這個案子是可避難科目可自行調整好第七十一案改三減五十萬 |
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可并案可自行调整科目那文字案刚行政机关宣读通过接下来72案 |
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70案是邱惠入委員所提委員簽名同意改成主決議主決議文字從第二段開始我做說明就是為114年審計部之審計報告及立法院預算中心評估環境部長年投入經費為大型柴油車之太舊換新貨改善調修仍有車輛未曾申請補助進行改善調修 |
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且無排煙檢測紀錄而成為移動污染源之管制缺口那請環境部於三個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告說明柴油車污染改善及減量措施以上報告第72案改組決議並按照行政機關剛才文字宣讀通過接下來73案 |
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7.3案是邱惠入委員所提原提的是委員同意改組決議組決議文字是最後一段請環境部加強推動老舊機車汰換督導地方政府落實執行法規及改善措施並於一個月內向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會提出書面報告 |
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73案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過 接下來77案 |
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七案的部分是劉建國委員提案那劉委員同意改成主決議那因此修改原提案的兩行倒數兩行文字改成並持續爭取擴增聲音照相設備量能投入車輛噪音稽查及改善工作且持續持續精進噪音管制工作管制行作為且於三個月內針對機動車輛噪音管制 |
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提出精進書面報告致立法院社會福利環境衛生環境委員會切切案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來八十案 |
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八十案是邱惠如委員所提那委員同意改成組決議那組決議文字是修改這個提案內容的倒數兩行就是請環境部於三個月內針對機動車輛噪音管制提出書面報告向立法院社會福利及衛生環境委員會八十案改組決議並按照行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來八十九案 |
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八十九案的部分是陳金輝委員所提那委員這邊已經簽名同意改凍結兩百萬八九案改凍結兩百萬接下來續審九十七案九十三案保留九十七案 |
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97 劉建國委員提案 已經簽名同意改減列50萬科目可調整可併案同時因為已經改成減列 所以原來的解凍條件就配合刪除97 案改減列50萬 接下來續審102案 |
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102案劉建國委員提案已經簽名同意維持原來的減劣50萬但是增加科目可調整可併案可併案的部分我們這邊就是建議跟剛才的97案併案主案號97案合併減劣50萬102案按照劉建國委員提案 |
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可併案可科目可調整 檢列50萬那接下來續審114案 |
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114案王毓民委員提案委員已經剛剛簽名了然後改簡列100萬不凍結然後修改文字調整倒數第二行將500萬簡列為100萬並刪除後面的文字114案改簡列100萬接下來去審137案 |
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137案是王育明委員提案改簡列刪減100萬元可並按科目自行調整委員已簽名提案的文字的話就是將簡列的修改為100萬元後面刪除 |
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137案改減列100萬科目可調整可併案接下來續審141案141案是劉建國委員提案改減3減50萬元可併案科目自行調整那提案委員已簽名那提案的文字的話就是將這個末段改為3減50萬元那後面文字刪除 |
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141案改簡列50萬可併案可自行調整接下來續審151案151案是王玉明委員提案那改為凍結100萬元那委員已簽名 |
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151案改凍結100萬元接下來續審158案158案是劉建國委員提案改凍結50萬元那文字的話有修正就是把這個刪減的部分改為凍結50萬元那後面經理法院同意的文字刪除158案改凍結50萬 |
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並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來183案183案是王委員提案那王委員這邊同意減列50萬那同時就是科目自行調整為資源循環及廢棄物管理那 |
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可併案 183案改簡列50萬可併案科目可自行調整那接下來續審198案198案是王玉民委員提案那委員這邊呢是同意改凍結100萬元那可併案那科目自行調整為科技發展198案改凍結100萬 |
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可自行調整可併案那接下來續審204案204案是王毓民委員提案好那委員這邊呢是同意刪100萬那可併案那科目調整為資源循環及廢棄物管理好那204案改簡列100萬 |
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科目可自行調整可併案接下來續審205案205案是劉建國委員提案那委員同意改簡列50萬元科目可調整可併案那205案改簡列50萬科目可自行調整可併案 |
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接下來續審219案219案是王育民委員提案那委員這邊同意改為主決議文字有沒有調整那文字就是後面就是依五年度文字沒有只是把後面宣檢列該預算100萬元把它刪掉 |
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219案改組決議並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過227案是保留那接下來229案229案是陳靜蕙委員提案那委員這邊呢是還是希望可以就是凍結10%那我們這邊是建議說委員可不可以就是凍結10%就可以了凍結500萬 |
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我有跟很多其他的委員討論過我們認為呀這個目標不但是改來改去而且一直在跳票那當然我覺得你們用這個消費者習慣啊一起拿美意戰爭作為理由這個並不是大家是可以接受的因為戰爭沒有要 |
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結束的樣子所以我就協商送保留對那主席我可以因為我有三案所以我在這邊就講我要保留送協商的有229案有302案還有310案229然後呢302302310 |
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好那就229案就保留接下來續審237案237案是王育敏委員的提案那委員同意改檢列500萬元可併案科目調整成化學物質管理業務237案改檢列500萬 |
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科目可調整然後可併案那接下來續審241案那241案是王育敏委員的提案那委員同意改檢列500萬那可併案那那個原本的提案的倒數三行全部刪掉 |
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那241案檢列500萬那可並按那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過 接下來245萬 |
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245萬是劉建國委員的提案那跟委員同意就是減列50萬那原本的提案金額後面帶環境部向立法院進行報告一直到最後刪掉那可併案245案改減列50萬可併案科目自行調整科目可自行調整接下來續審 |
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249案是王育敏委員的提案那委員同意改檢列500萬那可併案那科目調整成化學物質管理業務249案改檢列500萬科目調整化學物質管理業務可併案接下來續審 |
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270案270案包圍還有一個268案268你這邊沒有勾268是18沒有啊對 |
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268嗎?對,我們有個268案是王一鳴委員的委員已經同意減列60萬科目自行調整那268案減列60萬那接下來270270案是廟委委員的送協商好 |
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兩百七十案保留協商兩百七十三案兩百七十三案也是廖委員的也是保留協商嗎 確認一下好那再來兩百八十案 |
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280案也是保留280案保留寫上289案289案也是保留289案保留寫上290案290案是陳俊輝委員經過寫上以後凍結400萬科目自行調整可併案三個月內提書面報告後書面報告併軍同意後 使得凍資 |
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是290案改凍結400萬科目自行調整可併案並按照剛才行政機關宣讀文字通過接下來298案298案是保留298案保留協商 |
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再來301案301案我們爭取看可不可以凍結50萬不可以這一案這個剛剛討論這個重複編列中央跟地方這個重複編列這個錢而且預算中心都已經直指這個問題了這個一併保留協商301案保留協商 |
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302案也是保留協商307案保留協商310案保留協商接下來續審317案保留協商好317案保留協商325案保留協商接下來336案326案336案我們還有一個326案 |
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沒有看到耶是現在動搖百萬王一鳴326案326案是是是對已經有簽名了嘛對不對是動搖百提書面報告這剛剛有確認嗎有啊那怎麼會要 |
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好來336案336案確定委員是有簽名的剛剛是沒有辦法確定文字的話是增加增加補助做事廁所要求加強清潔維護管理提升補助案件的行政效率好336案按照呃 |
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張雅琳委員跟林淑媛委員提案那個王振旭委員提案那並按照行政機關剛宣讀文字通過接下來341案目前是保留好341案保留寫上接下來第7案第7案保留寫上 |
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我們繼續針對於環境部希望併案簡列凍結那個且以獲得提案委員同意的部分進行處理 請環境部逐一提出我們主案來討論並將併案說明發給現場委員一律討論需要時間嗎你們需要時間嗎 需要時間我們就先休息 |
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你們有印了嗎?你要印給委員啊,委員沒資料好,那我們休息五分鐘,等待他們發下來這能不能借我們看一下 |
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13484.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
謝謝觀賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
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13513.814 |
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欸 可是已經有可病的我們不是 你們想說那總統有擔任嗎那不是一些可調整 可不可調整我們跟鄧太太講 她做一個會議期的一段很矮很累的事說可調整的所以我們昨天晚上有請有請國泰技術的各大會說你們要 到底要跟哪一家公安簽個病欸 那我們我們那個動300跟動100要病啊還是本來沒病就可以大包繳 |
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是今天討論的還是昨天昨天的可調整可併案啊那個單子送出去都是有可調整可併案啊 |
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我們每個案子都有可調可併啊因為我這個民主運動300這個委員動 劉建國動100這個是要併案的啊還有一個陳靜惠動100我要併的案啊沒有 我們同一個科目 |
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13584.581 |
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我們是同一個科目就是環皮那個科目5759653然後最多是六個 四個分洞我知道我知道 我當然知道其他這兩個洞一百嘛 這洞一百 這個洞三百啊還是說沒講 可以大包講那我要5759653啊但是如果真的 |
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我們昨天有找同仁去問各單位 |
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這是科技計畫我們當時有提出來沒有 因為我們每個去送出去的單子都是可調可併安問題是我們是可調整不是我們自己本身調整我們是可以調整要併拿就要併拿不是這樣子委員會就是 |
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我一起唸 如果說有聖誕祭祀 |
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| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
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那我們沒有的我們要講後面再補充我們要講後面再補充我們要講後面再補充 |
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| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
蔣欣欣跟家綺好像有決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
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13733.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
那你如果渴病的話是? |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
13759.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
13762.317 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
有病的動物的話,就是去吃藥,溫暖自己。 |
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| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
13778.844 |
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新興城鎮 再回來 |
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鞭筍 |
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我們派出是不老闆 派出是不老闆看起來老實 打開就不好吃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
法定人數不足 |
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都好了 都好了我們已經發給委員了兩張 兩張有兩頁我們都給你們了基金跟那個 |
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這個有給主席嗎?報告主席有兩張,一個是預算還有一個基金有兩頁,總共有兩頁沒有改?沒有改,趕快再補一張我們現在繼續審查 |
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公務預算的來請請您說明公務預算的部分委員有簽名可以併案的第一個是65案70案還有68案那我們要以65案為主案我們這邊看到怎麼是65案的是有65案70案68案對 |
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那前面22案的有224那個已經宣讀說那個像那個44案的話那個已經宣讀說你現在可不可以一從頭開始好不好這樣就快一點22案 |
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那第一個就是說第22案跟第24案是簽併已經宣讀了併案的主案是第22案沒有意見接下來4444跟45案都是大陸旅費的那已經有說要刪除了 |
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好 委員沒有意見 接下來65然後再來是65案 70案跟68案那是以65案為主案都已經有簽名要併案那66那66跟67案併案那再來是76金額還是講一下金額那再來是76案跟85案那金額的話是100萬好 |
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那接下來以主病案的主案別的82那再來是病案主案是82案那總共有78案82案跟83案呢是病的那病的金額是50萬好接下來主案90案那90案是病99192然後總共合併是250那接下來94案 |
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併10194跟99總共金額是併200還是要講這簡略還凍結什麼字要講合併凍結200那接下來主案105案105案跟106案併案那合併凍50萬接下來主案111112跟112兩案然後凍結50那主案138 |
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跟143、144併然後總共併凍結5%那主案165案跟170、172、175併總共併了100萬凍結100萬 等一下還是要拜託講清楚接下來167 主案167跟166、173、174、176併那合併凍結200萬 |
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接下來主案190跟184、185、188、189、190、193、194、196合併凍結300萬主案210跟206、216然後合併凍結500萬主案225 |
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跟224、228、232並合併凍結200萬主案242跟243並合併凍結1000萬100萬那主案246跟247並合併凍結50萬250跟252並合併凍結100萬 |
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14159.5 |
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主要258 跟259並合併凍結100萬主要287 跟288並合併凍結500萬主要291 跟292並合併凍結100萬主要231 跟315並合併凍結100萬 |
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14182.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
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主案323323跟316318319320321322合併凍結100萬主案329 |
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那329這個部分要先說明一下就是說329的部分因為委員都有簽名他是凍結到所謂的跟地方補助款有關的那這個部分我們是同意說只要凍結或是刪減跟地方政府有關的話我們是同意說不會去凍到地方政府可是這個部分因為委員當時都已經有簽名說是簽到多元處理二期的那個計畫那不知道說那這個部分怎麼樣處理 |
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對 就是最後一項的329要跟277 281 282 286 300 327還有330 331 332跟334跟278 279跟328這幾個項目都是動到地方補助款的可是因為委員都已經有簽名了就不知道說這個部分怎麼樣處理 |
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| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
14263.689 |
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對 滿多委員有零書分還有都有都有那這部分我們是同意說科目我們改到我們的那個大概有12億多的那個科目去凍結可是問題是因為委員也簽名了那就不知道這個要怎麼處理了 |
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對他同意我們調整到一般性補助案跟地方政府補助有關當初都有簽同意對他們都簽名了可是因為剛剛有委員建議說跟地方政府都是不要去動他那我們也同意可是這個部分又委員又簽名到這個科目了那就不知道怎麼處理 |
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| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
14300.787 |
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可是它也是讓你們可以 科目可以調整嘛對不對對 可是它上面的科目就已經就是那個科目就是跟地方政府補助款的科目了已經沒辦法說我們自行又調整到那個但是我們是同意說不要去動那個地方補助款的科目那你這一次要不要發流就是跟委員說一說就是說要嘛就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
14306.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
14333.034 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
因為剛剛那個王振興委員有提議說不要動啦是不是就建議說如果在場委員沒有意見的話就用作這個才是就是不要動到地方的補助館這些委員都有已經有簽然後我們現在這樣決議去推翻這也不太合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
14337.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
14343.355 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
那現在後面這三案是不是一起合併凍結? |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
14351.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
14354.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
因為總共有14個案這14個案委員都有簽名說要到有關地方政府的補助款向下 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
14389.392 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
14409.028 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
沒有但是因為後來我們去溝通了以後給人家改改了委員也都簽名了對是這樣子我們的原始提案是都沒有到那個科目那是因為說可以調整的時候對委員都已經同意我們把它改成跟地方政府主席我覺得我跟王一鳴委員好像沒有辦法代表現在不在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
14422.464 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
14430.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
還有主席因為我們剛剛有就是今天討論了還有一些沒有併到的項目那是不是我再請我們那個其他單位稍微再報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
14432.418 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
14443.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
好 報告委員就是主案是137案剛剛王育民委員提案的這個3減100萬元那主案137另外141併過來所以這個兩個併案3減100萬元好 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
14450.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
14466.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
好那還有嗎還有剛剛也有報告到就是97案跟102案都是劉建國委員提案那當時也都簽字同意合併那我們這邊地方是不是以97案為主案102案來併197案合併減列50萬好那還有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
14473.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
14489.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
好那我這邊是剛剛王一鳴委員就是減低100萬那我們是建議就是204王一鳴委員的提案跟205226來這個併案那合併減低100萬那主案是204那科目是資源循環及廢棄物管理還有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
14496.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
14505.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
化學署報告我這邊主案是211是剛剛王育敏委員的提案那並237 248 249合併減列500萬好寫下要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
14517.718 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
14522.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
還有就是主案329合併凍結數應該是3000萬那要哪些跟他併就是277、281、282、286 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
14544.138 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
14555.669 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
300,327,329,330,331,332,334對,那個32我們剛剛不是要保留嗎因為跟地方補助館有關係啊所以我們本來就先不處理啊是,是對,全部保留好,還有嗎還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
14557.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
14565.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
新增公務預算環境管理美職推動計劃合併減列50萬並283嘛主案是283並283跟32並313283並313來接下來公務預算第41號和51號要併案兩個都是那個夜宣費動那個02的150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
14589.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
14615.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
好 我也沒有意見 沒有 我們接下來然後還有一個就是那個五七 五九 六三都是動環評的經費那五七跟六三都是動一百萬 五九是動三百萬 這三案並案總共動多少最高是三百 有兩個委員是動一百那可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
14625.584 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
14633.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
接下來就我們處理那個環境保護基金的主案006 006跟008還有011並合併凍結1000萬元那022跟021 023 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
14644.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
14650.256 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
並合併減列100萬元032跟028 029 030 031 027合併減列500萬元那052跟053並合併凍結100萬元019跟024並合併凍結300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
14677.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
14677.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
14680.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
14705.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
並案簡列凍結部分都均照前述宣讀及處理通過現在做以下決議第一中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案關於環境部主管公務及基金預算及相關一般性補助款預算案以及環境部含送環境資源研究發展基金會等四家財團法人115年度預算書案 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
14708.757 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
14711.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
審查完略 提報院會討論院會討論前是否交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
14716.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
14740.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
我們要交由黨團協商 院會討論本案時由林昭及委員願請補充說明二 今日審議環境部主管及相關一般性補助款預算案其中凡有修正未及宣讀部分請行政機關盡速提供並授權議事人員整理作為決議列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
14742.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
14764.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
三 凡有因依公務預算審議結果而需隨同調整相關非營業基金審議訴者請環境部會後盡速提供相關資料並授權議事人員整理作為決議列入進入本次會議到此結束 現在散會 謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
14778.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
14778.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
謝謝多謝 |