| IVOD_ID |
17435 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17435 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-14 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-13T08:31:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-14T10:14:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
25:42:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a609796e7e2fb2d5f44cea093030673645f9b7b695d4fecf9ee92c2d617a4eef6e065ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次全院委員會（事由：審查委員傅崐萁等60人及委員黃國昌等59人分別對賴清德總統提出彈劾案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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報告全院委員會現在繼續開會審查總統賴清德彈劾案首先請閣委員盧君發言請盧縣議委員準備 |
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主席各位立委同僚媒體朋友以及正在收看轉播的全國民眾大家早安今天是賴清德總統就職第725天725天不是一個短暫的時間這是一個兩年多來無數家庭每天柴米油鹽的累積是年輕人面對未來累積的焦慮也是上班族通勤途中的風險不斷的增加是產業界苦苦等待政府承諾兌現的漫長時間 |
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所以今天我們要很嚴肅的來問全國人民幾個問題這725天以來大家的生活有更快樂嗎大家的生活有更幸福嗎大家真的有過得更安穩更踏實還是更加的緊張呢 |
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還是我們看到一再的物價上漲薪水追不上生活的成本還是我們看到AI快速的改變世界許多年輕人卻非常憂心自己被時代拋在後面還是我們每天早上出門都在混亂的交通當中提心吊膽只能祈禱自己能夠安心的抵達工作崗位 |
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曾幾何時台灣人民下班以後逛逛網拍看看影片追追劇這些平凡的小確幸竟然也變成了無止盡的網頁載入中等了很久最後卻只換來一句無法開啟網頁甚至隨時要擔心被詐騙這些都不是抽象的政治影像而是人民每天真實面對的恐怖生活兩年多前有一位總統 |
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候選人向全國人民承諾只要把票投給他台灣就會走向幸福快樂安穩的生活他提出了227項政見向人民保證一項一項會兌現最後他當選了成為中華民國的總統但是今天人民要問的是承諾在哪裡責任在哪裡兌現又在哪裡 |
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我手上這一長篆的資料是親綠媒體整理出來賴清德總統競選時提出的227項政見這227項政見當中目前真正兌現的只有兩項 |
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227項政見裡面225項未開始這就是我們的賴清德總統為我們全國人民做的事一項副總統優先考慮女性另外一項是在野黨領頭的完成三班護病比目法除此之外絕大多數225項政見的進度仍然停留在未開始 |
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換句話說賴總統的政見跳票率高達99.9% |
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透過這樣的一個數字啊我們可以看到就像一個人啊詐騙集團說你中了100塊最後只給了你一塊錢這不是詐騙什麼才是詐騙99%的小失誤不是小失誤99%是巨大失誤甚至是一個行政怠惰行政嚴當的鐵證這是對人民承諾的全面失信難道 |
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賴總統的賴是賴帳的賴難道賴總統的賴是賴皮的賴嗎我們來看能源政策賴清德總統承諾要打造淨零創新科技平台但是今天我們還在燃煤燃炭我們合計的火力發電佔比高達八成反觀國際上被視為潔淨能源選項的核能在台灣卻完全被邊緣化而且一再髮夾彎 |
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政府為了維護非核家園神主牌讓高污染進入人民的肺影響人民的健康這難道是對的嗎第二國家安全與通信韌性賴清德總統承諾要強化國家國防國安的力量但是我們都知道台灣九成的網路依賴海底電纜一旦發生意外我們很可能會對外通訊中斷中斷成為資訊孤島 |
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這不是危言聳聽這就是可能發生的事實我們可以打開台灣的天空讓更多元的衛星通訊服務成為國家韌性的一部分但是總統的承諾在哪裡國安的強化在哪裡我們到目前為止還是沒有多元衛星的備援這難道就是我們的韌性嗎 |
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第三AI時代的公平競爭我們賴清德總統的政見當中明確的提到要積極消除數位落差結果台灣的民眾高達七成以上只能使用免費版的AI工具我們卻完全沒有看到政府提出任何的政策 |
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現在付費版的AI工具一個月訂閱費超過6000元新台幣AI貧窮正在侵蝕我們年輕人的社會競爭力政府要能夠負責任的提出數位平權AI平權才能夠解決這些問題只要有很棒的AI工具可以查年輕人就可以知道地球不是圓的地球是橢圓的 |
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我們積極主張要發放AIB政府卻完全沒有回應我們每一個青年每一個勞工如何能在未來世界公平參與競爭第四是經貿外交賴清德總統在經濟政見當中承諾 |
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要推動台灣加入CPTPP等區域經濟合作機制但是今年3月我們看到顏慧欣女士病逝全國深感遺憾她在辭職信當中指出政府對於推動加入CPTPP敷衍了事缺乏具體的時程與計畫這種完全的演蕩完全的賴皮完全的賴帳又是一張一張無法兌現的芭樂票 |
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第五 交通安全賴清德總統曾經承諾要全面改善大陸交通安全並在2040年達到零死亡的目標但是今天的台灣我們的車輛法規全面落後國際10年這當中的科技落差相當於別的國家已經在用iPhone 17了而台灣的民眾卻只能拿著黑金剛打電話 |
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荷蘭交通管理局今年4月宣布批准特斯拉全自動駕駛監督板FSD可以全面使用荷蘭交通管理局也證實該系統比其他同類系統安全正確使用系統有助於提升道路安全 |
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結果台灣不能用台灣做的晶片技術在台灣不能用每天人有超過八人因為交通事故而喪命一年下來有三千多個家庭因此而破碎正是因為賴清德總統的行政怠惰賴政府的怠惰造成先進的自家科技無法在台上路正是賴清德總統剝奪了台灣民眾使用先進自動駕駛的權利 |
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賴清德一邊放任貪官謀財一邊縱容庸官害命哪有資格繼續擔任中華民國的總統呢政府的怠惰不能由人民的生命來承擔代價最後我們要來談三班互併筆 |
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原本衛福部支持堅持結果最後呢說三班互併比要兩年後才能實施甚至出現石崇良部長公開把政策與選舉支持連結的說法引發社會嘩然但是就在國際護士節慶祝大會前賴清德總統與部長兩分鐘談話以後 |
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衛福部政策就可以大轉彎總統也隨即宣布三班戶必比明年520可以上路這件事情凸顯了一個非常嚴重的問題原來不是不能做而是不願意做政府根本沒有把人民的需求放在第一位如果政府一句話政策就能立刻轉彎那過去的拖延到底在做什麼現在難道我們已經從法治國家變成賴治國家了嗎 |
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曾幾何時我們民主的制度是要看總統願不願意點頭我們替賴清德總統算了一下假如目前跳票的225項政見總統願意推動每一個部會首長叫來談兩分鐘談完也不過450分鐘只需要8個小時政見就可以全部落實但是賴清德總統上任725天超過100萬分鐘這100萬分鐘裡面青年 |
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還在奮戰AI貧窮這100萬分鐘裡用路人還在承擔交通風險這100萬分鐘裡我們還在不斷的擔心網路會斷線不斷的擔心自己被詐騙為錯誤的能源政策付出健康與經濟的代價今天我們提出彈劾案 |
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就是要告訴所有未來的掌權者民主不是政治人物拿到選票以後就可以忘記人民民主的核心是信任當信任一次又一次的被辜負承諾又一項一項的跳票人民的痛苦被忽視國家的責任被拖延這就是最嚴重的施責 |
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最後我要呼籲民進黨的委員們希望各位能夠站到人民的這一邊站到良心與道德的這一邊下週彈劾案的投票請不要當政黨的投票部隊請成為人民的代言人一起導正這個失序 怠惰 私信的政府下架賴帳王 人人有責這就是我們今天要為中華民國為我們所愛的國家所付出最重大的 |
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好 謝謝葛委員下一位請盧憲義委員發言 |
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院長各位同仁及全國的國人朋友大家早安今天是彈劾案第二天的全院委員會賴總統仍舊沒有出席相信國人都不會太意外面對這中華民國憲政史上第一位被國會彈劾的總統空位前我們靜下心來回顧世界的歷史其中1919年到1933年的威馬共和15年期間 |
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由於其憲法設計的缺失讓總統用緊急命令權凌駕國會多達245次徹底癱瘓國會變成獨裁的工具導致威馬共和的瓦解及納粹獨裁的崛起威馬及納粹皆是民族產生 |
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後者卻對反對者使用暴力鬥爭進行極權統治終究帶來第二次世界大戰及種族大屠殺是人類的一大浩劫大約一百年後我們看看現在的臺灣政府的權力來自於人民的信託而憲法是這份神聖的社會契約 |
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當一個國家元首可以無私立法院三讀通過的法案當一個總統可以容忍甚至主導他的行政院長拒絕復甦這代表什麼這代表他單方面撕毀了社會契約一步一步的走向獨裁韓國的以錫瑞用軍隊搞實體的軍事戒嚴結果遭到司法重刑求處 |
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而我們的賴清德總統用不公佈不附屬不執行的三不政策將臺灣推向行政獨裁的險境這就是民主憲政最壞的負面教材這個三不政策加上不斷變種的行政擴權手段正在為臺灣的權力分立制度帶來難以修復的深遠傷害 |
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第一 他實質閹割國會立法權將不順義的法案直接賜死比如財政收支劃分法 黨產條例衛星廣播電視法 國軍老舊眷村改建條例立法院組織法等五大法案全數被行政院拒絕附屬這等同宣告只要行政院長不開心賴總統不點頭最高民意機關三讀通過的法案就會變成廢紙甚至5月9號三讀通過的三頒復併筆直接延後兩年實施 |
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第二將法定預算當作政治籌碼冷血凍結我們軍警公教權益除了拒絕附屬行政院發展出附屬了卻不執行的惡例好不容易三讀通過的停侃年金案軍人待遇條例及警察人事條例行政院雖然附屬了卻用申請釋憲當作藉口裝死不鞭預算 |
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政府把保家衛國的基層軍警公教權益當作政治鬥爭的籌碼讓基層看得到吃不到一再漠視及吞噬他們的血汗第三 沒收了國會人士同意權讓獨立機關全面的失能國會依法通過的中選會主委游盈隆等世衛人士案 |
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行政院竟然只因部分令人選擇否決就惡意扣留任命令面對NCC委員提名政院預判名單不會過關消極地不提名企圖用無限期代理來實質掌控第四濫用無限期代理來染指司法防線公然踐踏最高的民意 |
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這是最令人膽戰心驚的極致擴權賴總統提名的檢察總長人選在立法院被正式投票否決總統府竟然無視國會決議直接透過行政命令指派遭否決者 |
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民間司改會提出了四點聲明指出此舉為等同變相架空國會人士同意權而將代理制度作為政治籌碼則有損檢察公信總統指定代理也缺乏法律的依據指定剛被國會否決代理檢察總長勸勸民主正當性創憲政惡力司改會因而呼籲賴清德收回陳命但他會嗎 |
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賴政府試圖複製代理模式讓執政屬意的人選一而再再而三的讓國會監督而繞過國會監督無視司法的最後一道防線說到這裡本席回想到前年的原住民保留地經法補償條例的修法開始行政院就帶頭 |
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違法聚編預算形成政治僵局開啟了行政權踐踏立法權的先例去年的大罷免 執政黨因為不願面對自己是少數政府的現實苦解散國會的正當性竟然把直接民主的罷免 |
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變成局部解散國會的手段罷免本來是憲法設計用來淘汰貪腐失職官員的安全法現在卻被執政黨拿來當作政治清洗的工具導致立委一單選就面臨清算根本無法正常行使職權徹底破壞了 |
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帶一陣政治的穩定更可怕的是把罷免當成武器的做法引發了淵源相報的報復性罷免惡性循環連帶波及地方議員讓整個2025年的台灣社會陷入極度動盪與嚴重的撕裂去年的7月26號這波大罷免 |
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遭到全民用選票來徹底否決證明了人民對這種焦土惡鬥感到極度的反感與疲乏遺憾的是執政黨不僅沒有學到教訓反而繼續加碼一手在體制內閹割法案另一手更啟動國家機器來司法清算將檢調當成政治工具鋪天蓋地的對在野黨進行政治追殺這樣的三重夾擊將朝野對立推向了歷史的最高峰說到此刻 |
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是否對威瑪共和基集成納粹有了似曾相識的感覺我認為同胞承諾其他委員所說的這場無聲的憲政戒嚴與全民對抗它深遠影響的程度絕對不止於高層的政治權力遊戲當賴清德總統沒收了國會的權力 |
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癱瘓了代議制度它實際上沒收的是臺灣人民與弱勢族群分配國家資源的權利也是一場嚴正的分配正義與族群正義的危機在架空民意藐視國會監督的情況下賴政府是如何對待環境弱勢 |
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政府高寒精靈轉型當初的能源政策卻帶來嚴重的國安與財務漏洞今年第一季台中火力發電廠的燃煤總量比去年同期大幅增加了16.2%多燒了36.5萬噸的煤當政府花著幾千億的納稅錢去補貼昂貴的光電風電讓少數政商權貴獨占政策紅利的時候中南部的鄉親卻要用他們的費來替政府發電請問賴政府這種用弱勢民眾健康來撐 |
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來承擔錯誤代價的行為符合分配正義嗎我們再來看看賴政府是如何對待原住民賴總統去年風光地出席全國原住民主政策高峰會大談他的五大藍圖說要培養原住民人才促進部落永續但現實是什麼 |
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縣市市位處高較第一線的園資中心族群知識中心現在是經費短缺計劃未能延續甚至連助理的員額都要面臨被撤銷的困境如今國防預算已達蔡政府的兩倍馬政府的四倍來到1.36兆還不夠 |
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本院的委員們不分藍綠想要努力的推動修正原住民主教育法第十一條把法定教育經費下限的1.9%調升到3%來搶救原住民主教育的靈魂但我們心裡面卻充滿了恐懼為什麼恐懼呢因為立法院 |
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就算为了弱势三度通过了法案只要赖清德总统不高兴他就可以叫卓伦他院长不复书他就可以把救命的法案锁在抽屉里不公布当一个总统可以不受宪法制约他随时可以斩断分配给偏乡原乡与弱势的资源去填补自己错误政策的黑洞这是宪政对抗对基层人民最冷血的剥夺本席要再次强调 |
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總統的語言有重量、政見、有責任、本席,支持彈劾案進入審查,是為了守住憲政秩序,是為了讓民主重新被問責。面對困境,藍白還是會持續地推出服國立民的法案,給等待正義的人。 |
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2024年南韓一樣潮潮也大但是需要八席才可以通過彈劾2024年的12月14號在國會投票的當日當天結果有12席的執政黨倒戈支持彈劾讓彈劾案成立 |
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5月19号也就是下周二我们期待有14席的执政党委员能够用良知及正义即刻停止目前台湾走向独裁的道路我们天佑中华民国台湾加油好谢谢卢委员 |
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主席 各位同仁 大家好 |
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今年本院再次召開全院委員會審查針對賴清德總統之彈劾案這是中華民國憲政體制面對國家元首違法失職時國會啟動的正式問責程序 |
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本席尊重被彈劾人依法享有道場陳述提出說明與維護自身權益之機會然而本院通知後賴清德總統今日仍然拒絕出席 |
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放弃于审查程序中申辩的机会总统府可以用各种说法来搪塞但本席要严正指出总统缺席全院委员会正是藐视国会回避监督拒绝面对宪法责任的表现 |
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本席從幾個面向向社會大眾來說明為什麼賴總統的問題是長期以來對議會政治、憲政秩序與民主多元的系統性破壞首先賴總統不是第一次拒絕民意機關 |
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赖总统担任台南市长期间就曾经无正当理由拒绝到台南市议会备询遭监察院弹劾并经公务员惩戒委员会认定违反地方制度法所定的列席义务予以申戒当时工程会已经清楚地指出地方首长拒绝进入议会并非政治问题而是法律问题 |
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議會與首長之間應有權責制衡的關係首長不能以政治目的而拒絕法律規範然而從台南市長到總統賴總統面對民意機關監督的態度一脈相承過去拒絕進入台南市政府接受答詢 |
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今日拒絕出席立法院的彈劾審查會這樣子的行為模式正是本席最擔心的憲政危機總統不是皇帝總統的權力來自人民也必須受到法的約束當國會依法啟動彈劾審查總統卻選擇缺席這不僅是對全國國民選出的立法院不尊重更是對憲政制度的不尊重 |
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第二 總統推波助瀾惡意罷免否定人民在2024年大選中所做的選擇2024年人民用選票選出總統也同時選出了潮騷野大的國會顯示人民對權力分立制衡的期待代表人民不願意讓任何一個政黨完全壟斷行政與立法權力 |
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可是選後總統沒有檢討少數執政下應如何尋求協商反而企圖透過惡意罷免來改寫國會結構本席強調罷免制度是憲法賦予人民的重要權利但是如果由執政權來主導操作煽動作為選舉翻桌的工具把不同政黨的民意代表視為必須清除的障礙這就已經偏離了民主制度的本意 |
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賴總統試圖否定人民選出的國會就是不接受權力被制衡總統即使勝選也不能凌駕於立法院之上民主重要的精神是承認對手也有民意承認少數執政必須協商第三 賴總統以總統身份來進行了團結施展卻在歷史文化與民主論述上不斷地撕裂台灣 |
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賴總統在系列演講當中多次引用南島文化來包裝其政治立場本席身為原住民族的一員這樣子的說法無法認同也感到憤怒真正尊重原住民族文化應該要讓南島文化中華文化各類的族群文化在台灣都能夠共存並榮 |
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可是賴總統的說法卻是一種排除式的邏輯把複雜的歷史修剪成符合政治需要的版本這不是尊重文化而是將文化工具化這不是團結台灣而是把歷史拿來服務政治動員總統在團結時長當中還說 |
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1946年通過中華民國憲法時台灣沒有派代表參加制憲大會這樣說法不符合歷史的事實當年台灣省參議會選出了18位代表來參與制憲其中原住民的自信 |
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他不只是台湾历史上重要的原住民族代表也是台湾第一位原住民习一更是台湾原住民的骄傲总统不能用错误的历史来误导人民更不能抹去台湾先贤参与中华民国制宪的历史更不能把原住民参与宪政建构的事实一笔抹杀总统的言论不只是对中华民国宪政制度的亵渎也是对当年代表台湾参与制宪先贤的不敬 |
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第四,總統與行政院透過不附屬、不公佈三讀的法案,實質架空立法院的立法權。立法院三讀通過的法律,行政院如果有不同的意見,應該依憲法增修條文來提出附議。這是憲政設計的一個程序,也是行政權表達意義的正當管道。 |
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然而宪法同时也明定奉议时如果经全体立法委员二分之一以上决议维持原案行政院长应立即接受该决议这句话没有模糊的空间奉议失败就是行政院应该要接受国会的决议可是我们现在看到的是奉议失败之后行政院不接受反而改用不附属作为手段使立法院三读通过的法律无法完成公布施行奈清德总统也配合 |
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不公佈讓法律卡在行政權當中這已經欲躍權力分立行政權發明了憲法沒有賦予的終局否決權如果行政院可以在復議失敗後來不附屬如果總統可以因此不公佈法律那復議制度形同被架空立法院三讀通過的法律也隨時會被行政院 |
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封殺這是非常嚴重的憲政問題一旦這個模式成立未來任何的法律只要總統跟行政院不喜歡就可以不附屬不公佈然後拖延到底那麼立法院還算是國家最高的立法機關嗎人民選出的國會多數還有意義嗎憲法上的權力分立還存在嗎 |
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歷來大法官解釋曾經指出行政院長附屬制度是憲政責任與權力制衡的重要設計不應該被扭曲為行政院否決立法院的工具今天賴總統與行政院把附屬權拿來對抗國會把公布法律的憲法義務變成了政治角力這是賴總統的嚴重違憲失職 |
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第五 耐心的總統在人事提名上專斷獨行不願透過朝野協商來尋求憲政共識檢察總長是檢察體系的最高職位必須要經過立法院來同意任命正是為了保障跟確保其超越單一政黨具備足夠的公共信任 |
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這次檢查總長提名人沒有獲得立法院的同意總統本應謙卑的面對國會的審查重新尋求能夠被社會與國會接受的人選然而我們看到的是仍然是執政權力試圖用代理拖延落道的方式處理 |
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同樣的問題也發生在大法官提名大法官是憲法守護者憲法法庭的正當性來自足夠的人數合一精神跟多元的組合可是賴總統遲遲不積極補足提名無願真正凝聚朝野共識導致憲法法庭陷入人數不足與正當性的爭議 |
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更嚴重的是 在大法官缺額 憲法法庭組成不完全的情況下小數的大法官還做成憲政判決 甚至排除其他大法官的參與引發不符合合議制的精神 介入政治爭端的疑慮憲法法庭本應該是國家最後的憲法防憲 如今卻因總統消極不提名 |
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执政党政治操作逐渐被人民质疑是否会成为政治的工具本席要提醒总统司法权的公信力不是总统府的政治资产宪法法庭也不是执政党对抗国会困境的备用道具总统如果放任大法官缺额使少数大法官可以在争议中来运作这不仅是人事怠惰更是纵容对宪政体制的伤害 |
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各位立法院同仁這場全院委員會所審查的是一再以政治目的凌駕憲政程序的總統從拒絕台南市議會的備詢到拒絕立法院彈劾的一個審查從操作罷免否定國會名義到團結實踐抹去歷史 |
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撕裂族群 從不附屬不公佈三讀法案到人事提名拒絕學商 放任憲法法庭 陷入爭議這些都指向一個問題耐清的總統沒有真正理解總統的權利必須要受到憲法的節制 |
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本席在這邊呼籲各位委員同仁我們必須要站在憲政秩序的這一邊站在國會尊嚴的這一邊站在人民意志的這一邊對於總統違法實質的重大爭議立法院不能沉默對於行政權架空立法權的危險先例立法院不能退讓對於總統缺席審查迴避說明的傲慢態度我們更不能草草放過請讓我們讓憲政爭議回到制度中接受檢驗 |
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好 謝謝林委員下一位請劉許廷委員發言也請黃介塔委員準備謝謝主席各位關心彈劾案的這個全國的人民好朋友這個今天討論彈劾總統知識體大 |
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我們必須要回到最根本的問題民主政治的核心是什麼不是權力本身而應該是承諾跟責任而立法院的功能是什麼是監督政府確保我們每一個從事政治工作的人能夠有明確的能耐跟本事可以處理複雜的公共事務 |
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馬上就是賴清德總統就職兩週年今天我們從不同的面向來討論彈劾的正當性我們都在看待政治人物是否具有能力處理國家大事我們要發起彈劾顯然國家的領導人在能力上出現了重大的瑕疵跟問題政治人物的能力指標有哪一些第一我認為最重要的是他必須有明確的判斷跟覺知的能力 |
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在國家大事的處理上 如果領導人腦袋糊塗判斷昏聵 做出有害國家利益的各項決策那麼不會是他個人臭名 名流遷死而是整個國家社會遭受動盪跟危機我為什麼擔心賴總統的判斷力出了問題 我舉兩個例子第一個是有關於台美ART的談判 |
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在這過程中我們在這國會殿堂也好幾次監督政府要求他們看清楚局勢謀定而後動做出最有利中華民國的合理的談判策略的安排但是我們可以看到現在公布雖然還沒有送到國會來批准的ART的文本你可以看到裡面已經明目張膽的犧牲了邊境檢疫的把關犧牲了人民的食安還犧牲了各種 |
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台湾脆弱产业的利益而却换不来一个公平待遇毕竟这个对等关税甚至最近一二二关税基本上也都已经作废无效在这个过程中我们的执政党张登杰采大内宣宣称这个谈判史上最好结果短短一周对等关税就被美国的最高法院裁定无效一周之内猪羊变色 |
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這表示我們的談判團隊我們的國安高層顯然對於國際的情勢跟變化沒有任何的掌握你是不清楚情況嗎還是你明明清楚情況卻另有所圖所以才做出這麼不合理而且荒腔手板的判斷請問你的判斷力在哪裡 |
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最近我們在討論軍購條例朝野爭執不休在面對軍購的時候在野陣營基於把關國家財政大量的要求明確的要求發價書是非常重要的條件 |
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我們的國防部也好 我們所有執政黨還有行政機關都再三保證第二波預計140億美金的軍購案的發價書不會有問題他們說台美關係堅若磐石他們說台美關係史上最好他們說只要理念相近一定會合作 |
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但是最近我們看到川普總統卻公開違反了過去的六項保證不只在這段時間延遲讓這個第二波的發價程序無法通過更在媒體面前公然承認這就是川習會談判桌上的談判籌碼 |
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中華民國我們台灣真心喚絕情我們在當我們相信政府為了團結為了大局要相信政府的時候難道我們賴清晨總統不應該說一說請問你的判斷力在哪裡嗎為什麼你的再三保證卻一次又一次的被打臉呢 |
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這幾個都是國家大事 市社安全以及經濟發展如果我們的國家元首判斷力出現的巨大問題那無疑是中華民國的重大危機這是為什麼我們今天站在這裡要去提彈劾案不只領導人要具備清楚的判斷能力他也要有非常耐煩琐碎的溝通能力 |
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面對國家政策大家的意見不相合如何調和頂賴如何解決困境如何團結國家這一項都是總統的最重要的任務他可以不用牽涉太多的細節但是在方向上他要有解決問題的能力但這兩年來我們看到的是朝野的僵局不停的在堆疊 |
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雖然他明面上有的時候見一見在野黨有的時候見一見立法院長會面是會了又會談話是談了又談但是從來沒有因為僵局而尊重國會的多數每一次的談話跟說明也不過就是堅持己見 |
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在國會兩黨可以在委員會的討論甚至在協商的時候堅持己見但是身為國家的最高領導人如果你的程度也只能是堅持己見的話那麼人民要憑什麼相信你有能力超越對立你有能力帶領國家走向真正的團結 |
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這段時間不只法案連預算都陷入了僵局更不要講一次又一次各個機關的人事同意權沒有辦法進行處理在野黨要很簡單事先商量共議人選這有困難嗎作為總統嘲笑野大的總統買單在野黨的訴求有這麼困難嗎他寧願放任僵局持續堆疊也不願意溝通解決問題 |
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腦袋判斷不清楚也不願意溝通的總統那是危險加危險但這不是我今天要談最重要的問題我今天要講的是政治人物能力的判斷指標是你心中還有沒有一點誠信的價值啊 |
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賴總統在從政的過程中提出多項,他也曾經擔任立法委員,需要透過立法落實的重要政策,包含醫療體系的改革,財政分配的公平,國會監督的強化,以及改善長照、家庭照顧制度等等。這些議題當然需要行政立法充分合作,來完成人民的託付。 |
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而我們台灣的基層老百姓也多有所期待希望美好的願景能夠盡快實現當然我們清楚民進黨在這一次的執政權國會並沒有多數因此政見如果要落實他必然要尋求在野黨的合作跟幫助 |
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而立法院的戰略黨聯盟我們也從來沒有因為黨派之分而否認這些政見的正當性很多這些理想確實對於社會有幫助戰略聯盟也非常樂意共同實踐這樣的承諾 |
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比如說最近三讀通過的醫療法落實了三班病戶比的入法盡量的要解決血汗醫護的這樣子的問題我請問難道三班病戶比不是你賴清德總統當初的競選政見嗎 |
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它不但是你的政見還是有一個時間表的政見但是我要提醒你時間到了你的落實的誠意在哪裡當你執政黨黨團投下反對票你難道不汗顏嗎 |
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財政收支劃分法是賴清德總統擔任立法院委員時重大的政見希望改善國家財政分配不均的問題當在黨通過財政收支劃分法的修正讓地方政府有更大的財政自主權的時候請問你人又在哪裡呢請問你是用什麼樣的態度來面對你這當初的政見呢 |
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4159.451 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4177.617 |
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立院組織法的修正不也是當初民進黨在野的時候強力主張國會監督力量不足容易造成行政濫權才有了國會改革的倡議跟初衷嗎那當我們在立法院強烈衝突通過之後你的心態又是什麼呢 |
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4178.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4202.234 |
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就業服務法的修正 落實了巴士量表 改善家庭照顧者的主張軍人待遇條例 警察人員人事條例難道不是給保護人民的英雄一份基本的尊嚴嗎當你面對這些你曾經的政見 曾經台灣社會共同的理想跟願景的時候你卻因為黨派之見 連自己的政治誠信都可以棄之不顧 |
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那請問你到底還有什麼資格作為政治人物你還有什麼臉面要說要服務全台灣各地的鄉親民主政治的健康運作仰賴誠信、誠恤跟制衡誠信就是政見承諾誠恤是依法行政而制衡是權力分立但在賴清的總統的領導下三者沒有一隻腳是站得穩的 |
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因為你不願意面對嘲笑野大的現實你也不願意面對國會多數並且予以尊重你對政治的掌握沒有判斷力對於不同的意見沒有溝通力連對自己的政治誠信都沒有兌現的能耐本事這就是為什麼我們今天要提出彈劾案的原因好 謝謝牛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
4259.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
4263.333 |
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下一位請王建豪委員發言也請王育民委員準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
4274.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4282.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
大會主席 各位同仁 全體國民中華民國自1996年第一次總統直選以來當年由李登輝前總統在5月20號順利就職總統至今總統直選已經滿30年 |
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| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
4312.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
包含陳水扁、馬英九、蔡英文再到今天的賴清德台灣人用手中的選票我們選出了五位民選總統總統這個角色他不只是我們主權的象徵也是中華民國實質的掌權者更代表了台澎金馬這塊土地上我們國民共同的選擇 |
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| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
4340.044 |
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總統做得好我想國人予有榮焉總統做不好我們感到共同的羞愧每一位總統代表台灣人民施政評價當然有高有低但回顧過往歷任的總統他都有其高光時刻不管是過半數當選總統還是史上最高票當選總統連陳水扁總統在就任的初期 |
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4340.945 |
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4362.48 |
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TTBS的民調它的滿意度都曾經高達77%換句話說歷任總統不管他的最終評價如何在他們擔任總統職位的工作上他們都曾經努力過要團結這個國家團結人民取得絕大多數的人民的信任和支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
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我想請問今天台灣的主角賴清德總統你有做過這樣的努力嗎你有想要努力團結全台灣人民嗎還是你只想團結支持你的人而已美國林肯總統曾經說過一個分裂之家難以生存總統這個角色他應該是要團結這個國家使國家長治久安而不是從內部分裂敵人還沒有來就自亂陣腳今年 |
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我們的軍購我們的國防預算創下史上新高但這卻不是我們國家最安全最穩定的時刻所以我們今天提出了總統談判案這個是憲法賦予國會最沉重的權力 |
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| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4435.241 |
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當然談案最後未必能夠成功但過程中絕大多數來自台灣各階層各區域各年齡層的國會議員向總統提出了多項的批判與建議如果賴清的總統你能夠聽進去一點點如果能以總統之尊回應民意或許這個國家還能夠有機會往團結再走進一步 |
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4464.137 |
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賴總統上那兩年來我們看到的不是他競選時承諾的溝通與團結而是不斷的挑釁暗撕裂身為國家元首總統他的義務應該是服從憲法服務憲法受制於憲法但是回顧他還在競選總統的時候他曾經無意間說出心裡話他把中華民國當作災難將憲法當作賴總統的工具及玩具 |
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任由他所使用的各種解釋儼然成為憲政危機的製造者我想民主國家的核心精神在於主權在民什麼叫主權在民 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
4477.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4502.528 |
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國家的權利應該要受到憲法的約束政府行為必須要依法執行保障言論自由讓多元不同的聲音能夠共存在這個社會去年11月立法院為了地方發展與財政自主我們主張三讀通過的財政收支劃分法這個也是賴清德總統擔任立委時期擔任縣市首長時期主張的財政收支劃分法 |
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4503.502 |
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4526.273 |
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這是一個經過國會充分民意授權幾十年二十年來的充分的討論之後提出的財政收支劃分法但是行政院卻發動復議復議失敗後理論上依照憲法徵求條文行政院長應該接受該決議但是行政院長公然的藐視法律拒絕在總統令上附屬 |
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4527.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
4552.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
賴總統身為國家元首不但沒有調記院紀紛爭反而繼續縱容院長拒絕附屬導致總統令無法發布讓國會通過的法律淪為一張廢紙憲法上的附屬權本來是為了落實責任政治確保行政和立法的制衡但在賴總統手中一個人就可以否決多數人 |
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4553.035 |
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民主憲政少數服從多數的基礎一夜回到解放前變成一個人說了算的獨裁工具 |
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4563.079 |
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4582.466 |
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賴總統多次以侵犯行政權為由恐嚇國會的立法權和監督權他將國會視作行政院的立法局只要意見不合動輒發動群眾對抗甚至質疑國會調查權的合法性甚至發動2025年全球知名的大罷免活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
4583.851 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4600.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我們看到司法院長至今懸缺超過半年大法官人事案也淪為一種分贓的籌碼導致憲法法庭運作受阻這不時單純的治理失能我想這是故意的讓憲政產生真空狀態規避法律約束實行一人獨裁 |
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4602.267 |
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4618.963 |
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在憲法針灸條文裡面民地司法院應該要設置大法官15人其中兩人是司法院的正副院長從2003年開始實施到現在大法官的人事任命趨於穩定很少出現不足額的空窗期長達半年以上 |
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4620.148 |
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4637.628 |
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但是從2024年7名空缺到現在1億多在將近一半空缺的情況下不足於就法門檻的人數的判決使少數大法官在非常大的人數之下取得過大的立法否決權及憲法解釋權 |
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依照憲法設計,司法院大法官有15人,但是在過去這段時間,賴總統並沒有積極的補足人選,反而讓少數的大法官去解釋憲法,這完全動搖了中華民國憲法穩定的基石。 |
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4675.793 |
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另外近期檢察總長的被提名人遭國會駁回賴清德總統不思進取也不溝通竟濫用最高檢察署規程的第11條作為依據強行提名他的西域政務部中理想的人選成為代理檢察總長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
4688.021 |
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此舉不只是對法律的強行解釋更是對國會由人民所賦予的自然權利一種赤裸裸的挑戰及蔑視國會不是賴清德總統用來進行試探及服從性測試的實驗場 |
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4720.53 |
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賴清德總統也口口聲聲說國安威脅要加強國家安全但是卻將台灣的能源密賣綑綁在極高風險的進口天然氣還有核電廠之間完全缺乏整體規劃這種走一步算一步的草率治理是最大的國安漏洞30年前台灣為了推動總統直選1996年中共為了影響那一次的總統直選也曾經發動了飛彈演習 |
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4749.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
希望能夠影響台灣總統的職權當年的李登輝總統他回應國民他有18套劇本能夠應付各種的變化此刻美國跟中國兩大強權即將進行川習會川習會即將登場台灣安全台灣問題成為談判桌上的籌碼之一我們看到美國總統川普他已經公然違反了過去的六項保證協議 |
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在此時此刻我想請問一下這麼重視國家安全的賴清德總統你對台灣人民有沒有辦法提出所謂的18套劇本來應付川習衛後各種國家安全的挑戰及國家安全的變化我們期待著賴總統不能只有嘴巴上強調重視國家安全我們希望也期待真正的國家安全在賴清德的桌上已經備好18套劇本來應付 |
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| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
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稍後登場的川習會對台灣造成了衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
4786.087 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
4811.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
另外新清安政策也淪為炒房的幫兇社宅政策也正式的跳票創新高的房價所得比及分裂的K型社會雖然看到股市4萬點平均薪資4萬8這些數據都成為賴清德總統施政的宣傳工具但也是這些數據讓賴總統忘記了自己曾經出身基層對生活困頓的無奈 |
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| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
4831.399 |
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今天我們提出了總統台灣案我們希望的是耐心的總統在過程裡面要聽到台灣各界的聲音好好調整自己的路線他目前的所作所為已經完全背離了宣誓就職時對憲法的承諾他用意識形態領導國家用鬥爭取代對話兩年多過去了 |
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4860.999 |
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兩岸情勢日益嚴峻經濟紅利被通膨吃光憲政體制被毀壞殆盡如果我們今天不站出來發言我們不站出來制衡不透過塔克案讓各種言論攤在陽光下我們作為國會議員怎麼對得起選民的託付怎麼對得起台灣這塊土地總統可以換但憲政根基不能毀 |
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4885.476 |
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為了國家的長治久安為了台灣的未來本席支持此次的台灣案也希望賴總統能夠檢討他的失職和失德接受最嚴厲的法律與歷史的批判謝謝好 謝謝黃委員接下來請王育民委員發言也請林沛翔委員準備 |
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| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
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主席各位立委同仁大家早安這一次立法院針對賴清德總統提出彈劾案這個是依照憲法賦予國會的職權而這個彈劾案成立之後我們可以看到我們就是按照程序標準第一次召開了公聽會 |
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4920.38 |
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接下來也召開了第一次的審查會然後也舉辦了聽證會今天是第二次的審查會但是我要在這邊表達高度的遺憾跟譴責就是當立法院發出邀請函的時候這一次的審查會總統府竟然已讀不回 |
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| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
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然後連正式的公文回覆立法院不出席都沒有這說明了一件事情賴清德總統就是藐視國會不尊重國會這樣的一個總統 |
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| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
4982.872 |
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難怪今天必須面對我們中華民國民選總統以來第一位遭到被提出彈劾的總統我們大家都知道在2024年的總統大選賴清德總統他只獲得四成的選票 |
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5006.76 |
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他並沒有得到台灣過半數民意的支持他是少數總統另外他在國會的席次也沒有過半所以他是雙少數的政府在這樣子的一個權力基礎相對薄弱的情況底下坦白講賴總統應該做的是什麼 |
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溝通溝通再溝通一個權力基礎這麼薄弱的總統雙少數的政府就要展現最大溝通的誠意他必須在提名他相關的政府官員的時候應該都要徵詢在野黨的意見或者是釋出善意讓在野黨可以提出人選 |
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但是我們看到的賴清德總統他不是溝通溝通再溝通而是獨裁獨裁再獨裁他的傲慢跟獨裁的心態也造成了今天我們看到台灣政局紛亂最主要的原因 |
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賴總統做錯的第一件事情就是他所發動的大罷免我們都知道民主國家事實上選出國會議員之後一般來講除非他個人有發生什麼重大的舞弊貪污等等事件才應該遭到罷免但是我們看到賴總統他所主導的民進黨他在他當選之後 |
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發現他的國會是少數他就發動了這個大罷免那這樣的整個大罷免他是針對所有在野黨委員提出無差別的攻擊全部只要你是國民黨的區域委員都提出罷免案 |
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這樣的一個造成政治的動盪跟紛亂賴清德總統有檢討嗎看起來並沒有我們可以看到在大罷免大失敗之後一度賴清德總統想要撇清自己的責任 |
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但是柯建民總召之子在大罷免過程當中賴清德總統他都知道過程而且也跟霸團有見面更重要的是我們都看到了他身為民進黨的黨主席他是下令所有的黨公職都要全力的來參與大罷免的工作 |
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這樣子的一個作為真的是讓大家覺得你一個總統應該要團結這個社會但是你卻發動大罷免發起政治攻擊更讓人家驚訝的是在大罷免期間大家還記得嗎總統他號稱團結十講但是呢他的十講裡面其中一講他竟然說要打掉雜誌 |
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這樣的一個獨裁跟威權的心態展露無遺而也是因為多數民眾看穿了民進黨這樣子不遵守民主憲政的精神然後發起這樣惡意的政治攻擊大家聽不下去了所以也看不下去 |
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所以大罷免造成大失敗但是昨天我們看到民進黨在這個台北市市長的這個候選人賴清德總統親自幫沈伯陽披上了彩帶 |
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他極力的要沈伯陽來擔任民進黨台北市市長的候選人大家都知道沈伯陽在大罷免時代他就是其中非常重要的推手而這樣子一個發起政治惡鬥然後不應該發起的大罷免這樣一個人 |
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在賴清德眼中他覺得是最適當的台北市市長的人選你就知道賴清德總統心裡他在乎的還是要大罷免還是要對抗還是要挑起這樣的一個政治鬥爭所以韓國瑜院長他在去年在今年他所提到的希望朝野可以化的這個化字我想也已經化為烏有了 |
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我們可以看到這個賴清德總統他這種對抗跟獨裁的心態真的是非常的頑固沒有辦法消除那大罷免大失敗之後這個賴清德總統他更進一步他 |
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變本加厲想要架空國會既然沒有辦法罷免掉國會議員他就把立法院通過的法律視為無誤所以他的不附屬從財政收支劃分法之外已經連續有五個案子五個案子通通都是不附屬 |
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這樣子的一個公然的架空國會藐視國會踐踏立法院所通過的法令這個在民主國家裡面是不會看到的也不會發生的上一次的聽證會 |
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這個出席的專家學者我就當面請教了他說在民主國家裡面不會有這種無差別的發起的大罷免的行動在民主國家裡面也不會有這種國會通過的法律案但是行政單位竟然可以用不公佈的方式來加以架空跟抵制 |
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所以這一些的行為都是完全違反了我們民主法治的精神也是毀憲亂政的行為除了不附屬法案之外對於人事案現在我們更是看到這個賴總統採取這種抵抗跟對立的這樣一個做法包括最近的檢查總長的人事案 |
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一個人事案已經在立法院被全面的否定了結果總統府我們的賴清德總統他竟然要一個被否決的人事案的檢查總長繼續代理檢查總長的職位請問 |
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這不是跟國會對抗什麼才叫做跟國會對抗如果總統都是用這樣的方式來衝撞國會架空國會請問我們臺灣我們的政治可以安定嗎我們的朝野 |
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可以和諧嗎所以這些種種的作為真的都是非常的不恰當加上最近的這些民生議題我們可以看到台美貿易的談判裡面出賣了國人的健康也出賣了農民的權益花生農叫苦連天把美國便宜的花生大量的進口到台灣來讓這些農民無以為繼 |
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我們最在乎的農藥的標準還有萊克多巴胺的標準在賴清德總統同意底下大幅的放寬讓我們食安的防線大幅的撤退這個都是我們覺得賴清德總統作為一個總統你當然不可以把農民的權益跟國人的健康 |
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放在台美的貿易談判裡面去做交易跟做交換但是他都沒有堅持住這樣的一個原則所以今天針對賴清德總統所提出的彈劾案 |
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真的是賴清德總統他做了非常多違反憲政違反民主法治的事情而且也沒有去照顧到國人應該要有的食安還有農民應該要的權益今天在野黨提出這樣的一個彈劾案完全是依照憲法所賦予的權利我們也呼籲 |
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民進黨的立委下週五月十九號的投票可以一起投下彈劾賴清德總統的同意票謝謝謝謝王委員接下來請林佩祥委員發言 |
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好 主席各位立法院的同仁各位關心台灣民主法治的國人同胞大家早今天是針對賴清德總統所提出的第二次彈劾審查會而我今天站在這裡不只是以一位民意代表的身份發言更希望以一位研究政治學跟公共行政的知識分子的角度跟大家共同思考一個問題 |
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一個民主國家最危險的時刻是什麼時候不是沒有選舉的時候而是仍然有選舉但是制度開始慢慢失衡的時候因為民主真正可怕的不是一次性的循環而是人民在日復一日中逐漸習慣權力不受約束今天我們討論的不只是賴清德總統個人的問題 |
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而是當行政權開始習慣駕鄰制度繞過監督選擇性來執行法律遵守法律的時候我們的民主制度是否還能維持原本的平衡令人遺憾的是面對如此重大的憲政爭議賴清德總統依然沒有親自出席這讓人民不禁懷疑今天的總統是否已經逐漸習慣只接受掌聲不接受監督 |
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今天是台灣總統執選30週年從1996年第一次總統執選開始台灣經歷三次政黨輪替經歷過藍綠對抗最激烈的年代也經歷過不同政治人物執政但是有一條底線從來沒有哪一位總統敢輕易跨越那就是沒有人可以凌駕於憲法之上民主政治最 |
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核心的價值從來都不是總統權力有多大而是權力是否接受約束可是今天我們卻看到立法院依法三讀通過的法案可以被行政體系已不附屬 |
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積極公布不執行等方式實質架空我們也看到國會已經否決的人事案卻能透過代理方式來去延續權力甚至人民對司法信任開始動搖的時候行政權還試圖透過制度操作使憲法法庭在人數與程序爭議上尚未釐清的時候就繼續做出重大宣判 |
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這些事情如果單獨看也許會有人指說這是政治攻防但是如果全部放在一起看你就會發現這其實是一種行政權不斷向外擴張的現象而這在政治學裡面有一個非常經典的概念叫做民主倒退民主倒退不一定是軍隊上街也不一定是戒嚴很多時候它是慢慢發生的 |
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制度還在選舉還在國會還在但是監督逐漸失效司法逐漸被質疑不同意見逐漸只剩下被挑標籤最後民主只剩下形式各位同仁這種狀況在國際上其實有非常多案例有一個最值得台灣警惕的例子就是匈牙利 |
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近年來匈牙利總統Victor Orban長期被國際學界認為是民選強人政治的代表人物他並不是透過政變上台而是透過選舉取得權力但在長期執政之下逐漸削弱媒體監督弱化司法獨立擴張行政權力使民主制度慢慢向執政者傾斜 |
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而最近這幾年的匈牙利選情也開始出現劇烈變化年輕世代對高通膨、經濟停止跟政治壟斷感到不滿反對勢力逐漸整合執政黨的支持度開始明顯鬆動許多歐洲學者都指出匈牙利社會如今最大的焦慮不是沒有選舉而是人民開始擔心選舉是否真正能夠改變制度 |
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這就是民主最危險的地方人民不是一天天失去自由而是慢慢習慣監督失靈制度協張權力擴張到最後才發現民主已經變了個樣所以今天台灣人民真正擔心的不只是單一法案也不是單一事件而是當行政權開始會認為我選贏了所以我最大的時候整個憲政平衡會不會開始失控 |
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更令人擔憂的是這種選擇性依法行政的現象不只出現在政治制度它甚至已經擴散到人民最基本的民生問題譬如大家非常關心的三班戶病比 |
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各位同仁都知道護理人力荒已經不是一天兩天的問題護理師長期超時工作離職率居高不下醫療現場幾乎瀕臨崩潰因此立法院推動三班護病筆入法本來就是希望透過法律強制最低標準保障病人安全跟護理人員勞動權益但是令人遺憾的 |
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行政部門卻直接把實施的時間延後至2027年5月問題是這樣的延後本身就有高度的違法爭議因為根據護理人員法跟相關醫療機構的設置標準中央主管機關本來就有義務維持合理護理人員的配置另外醫療法第56條也明定醫療機構應該維持醫療品質跟病人安全 |
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當立法院已經明確完成法制化行政機關卻以行政命令或政策延後執行本質上就是行政權與對立法權的消極對抗更重要的是中央行政機關法制作業應注意事項中也強調法律公布之後行政機關應依法禁訴完成配套跟執行不得任意拖延 |
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簡單的講如果法律可以政府高興才做不高興就拖那麼人民還需要法律嗎這才是人民最不安的地方因為今天被拖延的是三班互併比明天是不是還有別的法律也可以選擇性執行而此時此刻台灣面對的還不只是內部制度失衡的問題明天即將登場的川習會更讓台灣社會充滿憂心因為國際政治現實 |
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最可怕的地方就是大國談判時最容易被拿來交換的往往就是小國利益今天中美關係談的不只是關稅、科技跟供應鏈更牽涉到印太戰略跟台海局勢台灣人民真正擔心的是當世界強權重新調整利益時賴政府是否還有能力穩定兩岸降低衝突維護台海安全 |
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還是只剩下口號意識形態卻缺乏真正處理國際現實的能力因為一個成熟的領導者不會只在國內製造對立更必須在國際變局中替人民守住安全與和平 |
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各位同仁公共行政有一個很重要的概念依法行政不只是形式上的合法而是政府對人民的承諾政府存在的目的不是方便統治者運用權力而是透過制度讓人民相信即使執政者換人國家仍然會照規矩運作 |
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但是今天人民越來越擔心的是當行政權開始凝架國會當司法開始被人民懷疑是否做到政治影響當國家機器逐漸向執政者傾斜那麼台灣會不會慢慢從民主法治變成民選威權這絕對不是一文言聳聽而是歷史上很多民主倒退的國家都不是一夜間崩壞而是人民開始慢慢習慣 |
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6023.148 |
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監督變成鬥爭質疑變成抹黑不同意見變成敵人最後制度就失去了原本存在的意義更令人遺憾的是總統本來應該是團結國家的角色但是我們看到的卻是政治對立不斷升高當人民已經對高房價高物價能源不穩 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
6024.528 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
6053.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
詐騙猖獗感到焦慮的時候執政者仍沉淫於政治動員跟權力操作人民關心的是生活政府關心的卻是權力這就是一個政府開始離人民越來越遠的訊號各位同仁今天談出談合不是因為我們反對民主恰恰相反因為我們珍惜民主所以我們更不能接受一位在民主制度上選出的總統卻逐漸不願意接受民主制度本身的約束 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
6053.706 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
6070.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
真正的民主從來都不是我贏了所以我說了算真正的民主是即使擁有權力仍然願意接受監督即使掌握多數仍然願意尊重少數即使身居高位卻仍然願意向人民負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
6073.433 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
6101.901 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
今天我們站在這裡提出彈劾不是為了仇恨也不是為了鬥爭而是為了守住一件最重要的事情在中華民國沒有任何人可以凌駕於憲法與法律之上包括總統謝謝好 謝謝林委員報告全院委員會本次審查會黨團推派之委員均已發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
6102.813 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
6124.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
有關委員已提出之書面資料未及登載公報者一律補登討論事項兩岸均已審查完畢並按做以下決議提報院會以記名投票表決本次全院委員會進行到此為止現在散會 |