| IVOD_ID |
17375 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17375 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T08:36:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T13:24:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:47:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528ee063c99885a10fc27f3131a64391cf64b1d480c4e0b4ea522b1b891200cbf9d75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、農業部陳部長駿季、衛生福利部石部長崇良、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿就「馬鈴薯輸入之邊境管制、檢疫、查驗等機制如何保障國人食品安全，及後市場抽驗預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關主計總處暨審計部、審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部桃園市審計處、審計部臺中市審計處、審計部臺南市審計處、審計部高雄市審計處部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第3項一般性補助款-財政部主管第1目財政部、第2目國庫署；第13項一般性補助款-其他第1至8目。災害準備金。第二預備金。（僅詢答）
【預算提案截止時間：4月23日（四）下午5時】） |
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好 謝謝我們今天議程比較多 |
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我們現在開始開會 |
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請醫事人員宣讀今天的議程 |
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1400.01 |
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好 我們報告我們今天委員會的出席人數 |
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1404.95 |
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1407.95 |
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請主任秘書報告今天委員會出席的人數 |
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報告委員會出席委員與主法定人數 |
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1414.18 |
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好 謝謝我們現在開始開會 |
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1414.18 |
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1416.48 |
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請醫事人員宣讀今天的議程 |
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1417.32 |
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1418.32 |
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報告事項 |
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1450.22 |
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有關足跡總處 即審計部 |
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1450.22 |
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1452.42 |
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審計部台北市審計處 |
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1452.42 |
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1454.72 |
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審計部新北市審計處 |
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1454.72 |
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審計部桃園市審計處 |
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1457.12 |
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1459.42 |
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審計部台中市審計處 |
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1459.42 |
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1461.62 |
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審計部台南市審計處 |
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1461.62 |
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1464.42 |
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審計部高雄市審計處部分 |
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1464.42 |
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1465.62 |
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請詢答 |
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1465.62 |
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1466.12 |
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二 |
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1466.97 |
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1469.37 |
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審查中華民國一百一十五年度 |
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1469.37 |
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1471.17 |
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中央政府總預算案 |
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1471.17 |
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1474.37 |
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有關第二十七款直轄市息縣市政府 |
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1474.37 |
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1476.57 |
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第三項一般性補助款 |
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1476.57 |
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1478.17 |
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財政部主管 |
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1478.17 |
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1479.47 |
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第一幕財政部 |
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1479.47 |
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1480.87 |
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第二幕國庫署 |
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1480.87 |
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1483.17 |
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第十三項一般性補助款 |
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1483.17 |
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1485.37 |
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其他第一至第八幕 |
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1485.37 |
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1486.67 |
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災害準備金 |
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1486.67 |
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1487.77 |
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第二億備金 |
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1487.77 |
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1488.67 |
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緊詢答 |
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1488.67 |
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1489.47 |
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宣讀完畢 |
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1490.73 |
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1492.23 |
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好 我們今天的議程安排 |
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1492.23 |
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1494.03 |
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第一 邀請財政部長 |
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1494.03 |
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1495.13 |
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莊翠雲部長 |
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1495.13 |
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1496.63 |
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農業部長陳紀峻 |
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1496.63 |
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1498.93 |
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衛福部石崇良部長 |
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1498.93 |
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1501.93 |
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行政院主計總處陳淑芝主委 |
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1501.93 |
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1503.93 |
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總處長來 |
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1503.93 |
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1505.63 |
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包括馬鈴薯輸入織 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1505.63 |
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1506.73 |
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邊境管制 |
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1506.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1508.43 |
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檢疫查驗等機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1508.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1510.83 |
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如何保障國人食品安全 |
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1510.83 |
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1513.13 |
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包括後續市場抽驗預算 |
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1513.13 |
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1515.83 |
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執行的情形進行專題報告 |
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1515.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1517.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1517.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
第二項是審查中華民國一百一十五年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1522.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
中央政府總預算案有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1522.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1525.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
主計總處暨審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1525.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1527.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
審計部台北市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1527.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
審計部新北市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1532.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
還有審計部桃園市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1532.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1535.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
審計部台中市的審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1535.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
審計部台南市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1540.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
審計部高雄市的審計處部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1540.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1541.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
請答詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1541.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1543.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
第三項是審查中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1543.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
第一百一十五年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
中央政府總預算案有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
二十七款直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
及縣市政府第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1553.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
一般性的補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1553.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
財政部主管第一幕財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1558.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
第二幕國庫署 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1558.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1561.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
第十三項一般性的補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1561.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
包括其他第一至第八幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
災害準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
還有第二預備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1569.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
請答詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1569.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1571.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
那我們等一下會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1573.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1574.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
好 我們等一下會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1574.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
六個單位進行預算報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1578.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
包括內容等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1578.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1580.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
第一位我待會請行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1580.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1583.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
李長務副秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1583.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1585.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
進行預算內容的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1585.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1586.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
第二位我請財政部軟次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1586.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1588.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
進行專題預算報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1588.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1591.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
第三位我請農業部胡正次 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1591.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1592.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1592.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1594.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
第四位我請衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
莊市長進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1599.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1601.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
第五位請行政院主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1601.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1603.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
陳主計長進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1603.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1605.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第六位請沈寄部 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1605.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1608.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
陳審計長進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1609.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1613.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
現在我介紹一下我們在現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1615.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1615.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1618.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
包括第一位吳秉睿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1620.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1622.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
第二位顏寬恒委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1625.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1629.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
好 我現在介紹一下我們今天在現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1629.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1631.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
所有的行政院的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1631.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1633.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
第一位我們行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1633.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
常務副秘書長李國新 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1638.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1638.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1640.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
我們行政院的主計總處主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1640.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1642.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
陳淑姿主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1642.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1643.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1643.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1645.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
我們包括主計總處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1645.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1646.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
李主秘 李毅君 李主秘 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1646.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1647.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1648.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
綜合規劃處的陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1652.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
陳梅英陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1652.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1653.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1654.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
公務預算處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1654.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1656.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
徐永毅許處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1656.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1657.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
基金預算處的潘處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1659.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1659.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1661.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1661.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1663.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
會計局算處的林專委 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1663.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1664.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1665.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
我們綜合統計處的蔡處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1668.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1668.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1669.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1669.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1672.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
我們國事普查處的潘處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1672.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1676.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我們主計資訊處的吳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1676.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1677.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1677.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1680.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
我們人事處的劉處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1680.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1682.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
我們秘書處的張家瑜主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1686.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1685.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
我們包括政風主任 陳主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1689.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1693.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
接下來請主計事的詹主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1693.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1694.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1694.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
今天在現場還有審計部的陳審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1698.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1699.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
陳瑞敏陳審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1699.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1701.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1701.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1703.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
還有我們今天副審計長也在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1703.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1704.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
林副審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1704.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1705.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1705.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1705.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1705.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1707.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
還有我們審計部的主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1707.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1708.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
林主秘 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1708.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1709.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1709.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1711.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
我們第一廳的廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1711.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
周廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1713.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1713.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1715.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
第二廳的陳廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1715.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
第三廳的張廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1719.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1719.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
第四廳的張國青 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
張廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1723.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1723.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1724.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
第五廳的陸冠勝 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1724.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1725.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
陸廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1725.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1728.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
第六廳的朱邁如 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1728.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1729.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
朱廳長 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1729.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1730.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1730.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
副審事的主任黃主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1734.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
黃美蘭黃主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1734.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1735.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1738.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
我們資訊處的溫代理處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1738.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1741.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
我們總務處的蕭處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1741.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1742.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1743.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1746.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
我們人事室的主任黃秉黃主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1746.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1747.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1747.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1750.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我們會計室的黃雪玲黃主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1750.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1751.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1751.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
我們政風室的黃季德黃主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1755.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1755.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
我們今天要來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1759.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
我們教育農林審查處的葉處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1759.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1760.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1760.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1764.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
我們交通建設審查處的王處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1764.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1768.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
台北市審計處的洪處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1768.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1769.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1769.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1771.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
新北市的審計處的處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1771.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1772.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
李處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1772.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1772.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1773.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
桃園市審計處的張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1776.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1777.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1777.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
台中市審計處的張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
張漢津 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
1781.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
1781.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
1782.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
1782.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
1785.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
我們台南市審計處的王處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
1785.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
1786.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
1786.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
1788.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
高雄市審計處的陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
1788.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
1789.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
1789.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
1792.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
金融市審計處的吳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
1792.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
1793.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
1793.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
1795.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
宜蘭縣審計室的劉主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
1795.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
1796.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
1797.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
1800.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
新竹縣審計室的莊主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
1800.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
1801.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
1801.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
1803.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
新竹市審計室的郭主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
1803.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
1804.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
1805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
1808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
苗栗縣審查室的楊主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
1808.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
1809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
1809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
1811.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
彰化縣審計室的謝主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
1811.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
1812.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
1813.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
1816.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
南投縣審計室的李主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
1816.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
1817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
1817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
1819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
雲林縣審計室的楊美冠 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
1819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
1820.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
楊主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
1820.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
1820.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
1822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
1825.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
嘉義縣審計室的陳信惠審主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
1825.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
1827.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
1827.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
1830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
嘉義市審計室的魏主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
1830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
1830.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
1832.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
1833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
屏東縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
1835.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
1836.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
審計室的李主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
1836.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
1837.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
1838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
1841.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
花蓮縣審計室的邱主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
1841.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
1842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
1842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
1844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
台東縣審計室的蔣主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
1844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
1845.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
1845.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
1847.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
澎湖縣審計室的高主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
1847.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
1848.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
1852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
1854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
還有新門縣審計室的吳主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
1854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
1855.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
1856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
1858.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
我們財政部的政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
1858.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
1859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
軟政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
1859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
1860.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
1861.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
1865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
我們財政部底下推動促成司的張司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
1865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
1866.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
1866.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
1868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
我們今天國庫署陳署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
1868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
1869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
1869.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
1872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
我們今天附稅署的宋署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
1872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
1873.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
1873.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
1875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我們關務署的彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
1875.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
1876.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
1876.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
1879.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我們國有財產署的副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
1879.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
1880.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
郭副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
1880.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
1881.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
1882.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
1884.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
我們財政資訊中心的副主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
1884.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
1886.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
李副主任歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
1886.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
1889.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我們今天還有邀請農業部的政次政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
1889.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
1890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
胡政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
1890.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
1891.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
1892.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
1893.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
1893.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
1897.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
我們動植物防疫檢疫署的署長杜署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
1897.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
1898.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
1898.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
1902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
國際事務司檢驗紀證 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
1902.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
1904.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
中紀政歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
1905.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
1908.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
我們農糧署的副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
1908.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
1908.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
1910.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
1911.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
衛福部的長次 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
1911.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
1912.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
莊人祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
1912.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
1913.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
莊長次 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
1914.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
1917.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
我們食藥署的副署長蔡副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
1917.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
1918.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
1920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
1921.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
1922.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
1925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
我們馬上進行預算內容的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
1925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
1929.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
因為我們今天報告的內容跟質詢的內容比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
1929.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
1933.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
也拜託大家盡量簡短重要來做報告說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
1933.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
1938.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
第一位先請行政院李常務副秘書長進行預算內容報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
1943.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
1944.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
1944.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
1946.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
各位委員女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
1946.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
1948.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
今天應邀列席貴委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
1948.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
1951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
並就一五年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
1951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
1954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
有關職轄市及縣市一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
1954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
1959.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
災害準備金及第二預備金等預算編列情形提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
1959.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
1960.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
自感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
1960.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
1961.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
謹儀要說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
1962.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
1964.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
財政收支法文法修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
1964.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
1970.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
一五年度地方獲配中央統籌分配稅款達八千八百四十一億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
1970.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
1974.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
較一四年度大幅增加四千一百六十五億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
1974.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
1976.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
各市縣政府已有四足的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
1976.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
1978.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
支應其自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
1978.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
1983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
所以我們的補助事項是必須配合做合理的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
1983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
1988.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
本院修正中央對慈霞市及縣市政府補助辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
1988.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
1991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
明定一般性補助款補助範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
1991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
1998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
包括具經常性、普及性、基本建設或維運性質、財政均衡等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
1998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2002.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
一五年度中央對慈霞市及縣市一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2002.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2005.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
合共編列兩千五百零億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2005.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
與一百一十四年度相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
依照災害防救法第五十七條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2014.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
實施該法災害防救的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2014.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2017.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
由各級政府案所訂應辦事項依法編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2018.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
從九十一年度起 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
我們每年都編列災害準備金二十億或五十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2027.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
一四年度為了即時因應災害緊急 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2028.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2029.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
應變的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2030.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
幾乎編列五十億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2032.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2033.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
預算法第二十二條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2033.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
第二億倍金在總預算中設定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2039.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
其數額是財政狀況決定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2039.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
金恆卓第二億倍金 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2044.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
最近三年度實際動資情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2044.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2047.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
一五年度編列第二億倍金八十億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2048.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2050.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
敬請各位委員鼎力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2050.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
使各項政務能順利推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2054.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
謝謝並祝各位委員健康愉快 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2056.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2059.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
謝謝李長務副秘書長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2059.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2061.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
第二位邀請財政部軟政司 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2061.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2064.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
進行專題跟預算報告內容的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2077.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
主席各位委員先進大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
今天貴委員會邀請相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2086.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
就馬林署輸入之邊境管制檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2086.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
查驗等機制如何保障國人食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2094.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
及後市長抽驗預算指引情形提出專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2094.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2096.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
並審查中華民國一百一十五年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2096.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2098.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2101.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
有關本部補助地方政府辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2101.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
畜生案件績效獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
及私菸私類菸品查緝情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2108.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
本部檢要報告之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2108.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
第一個馬林署輸入的邊境管制機制部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
進口人輸入深仙或者是冷藏的馬林署 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2121.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
除了要填具進口報單向海關申報之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2121.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
也要向農業部房間署辦理這個植物檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2130.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
還有要向衛福部的食藥署申請食品檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2130.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2132.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
那海關查核貨物 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2136.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
進口跟報單申報的貨民 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2137.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
重量 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2138.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2140.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
產製的國別是不是相符 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2140.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2144.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
並且收到房檢署跟食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2144.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
檢驗合格的通知資訊之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2147.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
才可以辦理放行的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2153.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
那如果經過相關的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2153.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2155.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
檢驗不合格的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2155.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
進口人就應該依照各該機關的通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2161.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
辦理退運或消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2161.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2165.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
海關在貨品放行的第二天 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2165.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2168.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
都會將進口資料傳送房檢署及食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2168.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2171.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
供其執行境內後市場的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2172.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2175.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
那有關這個補助地方政府辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2175.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2177.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
處在案件績效獎勵部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2178.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2181.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
為鼓勵地方政府辦理民間參與公共建設案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2181.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2183.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
本部依照相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2183.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2186.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
115年度編列促餐獎勵金 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2186.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2188.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
共計新台幣5億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2188.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2190.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
那麼促餐案件的獎勵金 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2190.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2192.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
包括簽約獎勵金跟考核獎勵金 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2192.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
簽約的獎勵金依照前一年度簽約案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2196.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2198.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
民間投資金額核算 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2198.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
並在預算額度內調整發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2202.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
考核獎勵金是依照地方政府前一年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2208.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
促餐業務受考核成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2208.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2212.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
那麼案等地合法20到100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2212.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2215.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
地方政府的運用該獎勵金辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2215.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2218.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
處在案件的可行性評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2218.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
先期規劃耐震評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
招商作業旅業管理及法律諮詢等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2226.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
第三個有關補助地方政府辦理私菸查列 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2229.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2230.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
查緝情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2230.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2233.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
那麼依照《菸海防治法》等規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2235.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
菸菌增收金額0.95%平均分配給中央及地方查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2246.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
四列菸品來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2248.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
至於輔助各地方政府經費分配指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
為平均分配佔20%人口及面積各佔12% |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2259.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
查獲案件及數量各佔24% |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2259.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2261.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
近三年經費平均指定率佔8% |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2261.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
另外經過本部跟審計部所屬審計處事 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2270.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
查核地方政府有未專款專用情事的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2270.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2275.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
每案會扣減總獲配數的5% |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2275.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2280.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
115年度本部編列補助地方政府金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2280.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
跟往年都將接近1億2350萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2290.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
波攻其執行查緝業務所需的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2290.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2295.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
如私菸倉儲費用、檢驗銷毀設備費 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2295.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2297.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
教育訓練及通信費用等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2297.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2301.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
本部將持續透過辦理儲餐及查緝業務考核 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2301.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2307.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
督導地方政府落實儲餐獎勵金及查緝經費的專款專用 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2307.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2311.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
來鼓勵地方政府推動民間參與公共建設案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2311.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2315.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
並提升查緝私菸的菸品效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2315.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2317.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
以上簡報告,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2319.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2321.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2320.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2322.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
市長的報告跟說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2322.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2326.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
第三位邀請農業部胡政次進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2339.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2341.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
趙委還有各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2343.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2343.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2344.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
大院貴委員會全體委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2353.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
邀請本部就馬鈴薯輸入之邊界管制、檢疫、查驗等機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2353.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
如何保障國人食品安全及後市場抽驗預算執行情形進行專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2364.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
緊就馬鈴薯輸入之檢疫部分提出以下報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2364.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2366.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
第一,雙重把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2366.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2368.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
食安標準不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2368.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
為強化輸入馬鈴薯之邊界管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2376.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
本部與衛生福利部採取雙重把關之嚴謹立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2382.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
以確保我國農業生產環境安全及國人健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2382.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2385.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
農業部作為檢疫主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2385.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2389.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
核心任務在於維護農業生產環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2389.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
透過嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2391.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2396.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
嚴格禁止發芽或帶病馬鈴薯輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2397.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
黃杜琪 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2398.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2400.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
劉 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2401.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2405.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
種植種源而導致病蟲害傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2405.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2410.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
同時衛生福利部負責食品安全與品質監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2410.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2413.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
針對農藥殘留、重金屬殘留及含有 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
有害物質,例如茄子鹼進行查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2419.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
這兩部會之專業分工與協同合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2424.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
確保發芽、腐爛及發霉的馬鈴薯不會進入國內市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2430.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
維護食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2431.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2433.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
安全、品質、標準不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2434.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
美國加工用馬鈴薯檢疫條件重點說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2442.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
我國加工用馬鈴薯部分仰賴進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2442.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2447.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
只要進口需求月份為每年的7月到次年的1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2448.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2449.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2452.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
以美國為主要的進口來源國 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2453.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2455.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
以供應國內需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2455.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2462.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
針對115年2月6日公告實施之美國產加工用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2462.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
重點分數如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
在美國輸出前的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2473.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
加工用馬鈴薯輸出前需取得美國檢疫單位出具的檢疫證明書 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2473.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2481.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
並規定加助證明該批馬鈴薯已經施用發芽抑制劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2481.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2483.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
且緊攻加工使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2483.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2487.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
如果發現有發芽、附帶土壤 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2487.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
或者是有8種我們所關切的病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2492.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
就不可以輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2492.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2494.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
那到達台灣的邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2494.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2497.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
我們進行了這個邊境抽菸 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2497.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2499.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
輸入人必須向 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
龍眼布 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2501.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2503.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
黃檢署申請檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2503.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2505.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
繳交美國檢疫證明書 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2505.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2509.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
同時聲明該批馬鈴薯輸入之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2509.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
是作為加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2512.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2514.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
檢疫人員檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2514.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2516.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
是否有附著土壤 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2516.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2518.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
是否沒有病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2518.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2520.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
有沒有發芽的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2520.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2522.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
才評定檢疫合格 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2524.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2527.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
在這些做法事實上跟過去相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2527.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2529.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
那衛生福利部 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2529.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2531.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
食品藥物管理署 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2531.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2534.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
就按照它的規定進行查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2534.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2537.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
如果檢疫人員發現有發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2537.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2538.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
就通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2540.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2542.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
衛生福利部食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2542.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2544.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
進行遣減的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2544.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2545.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
如果有超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2545.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2547.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
就不會流入加工體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2548.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2550.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
當我們檢出發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2550.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2553.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
發霉或者是腐爛的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
的時候我們怎麼樣來進行相關的流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
事實上我們一經確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
沒有遣減超標馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
如果有發芽發霉或者腐爛的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
就由農業部房檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
與衛生福利部食藥署共同合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
要求業者整櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2574.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
推運消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2574.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
或者是將該批馬鈴薯封緘後 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2577.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
直接送到配合檢疫的指定區 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
在加工前 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
在本部房檢署監督之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
由業者逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2587.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
逐櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2587.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2589.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
逐科選北檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2589.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
將發芽發霉後腐爛的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
整顆去汁銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
不會進入加工程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
也不會流入市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2599.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
那挑選過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2603.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
仍然是邊境檢疫的一環 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2604.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2610.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
我們將持續依據國際規範與科學風險的評估原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2610.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
審慎檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
並滾動檢討相關房檢疫措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
還有食品安全的相關措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2620.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
兼顧貿易便捷化 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2620.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
並與衛生福利部密切合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
透過輸出前管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2627.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
邊境查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2628.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2633.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
到加工端這些的管理層層把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2633.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2637.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
確保進口馬鈴薯符合檢疫及食品安全規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2637.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2640.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
維護國內的農業生產安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2640.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2641.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
以及國人健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2641.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2642.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2644.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
好 謝謝農業部胡振次的報告跟說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2648.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
接下來我請第四位衛福部莊藏次進行專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2653.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2655.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2661.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2663.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
主席各位委員先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2663.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2664.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2664.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2668.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
今天大院財政委員會召開全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2668.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2671.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
本部誠邀列席報告深感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2671.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2676.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
資助馬鈴薯輸入至邊境管制檢疫查驗等機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2676.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2681.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
如何保障國人食品安全及後市場抽驗預算執行情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2681.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2683.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
提出專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2683.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
敬請各位委員不吝會語指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2689.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
衛生福利部負責食品衛生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2689.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2694.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
對於輸入馬鈴薯的食安管理規範及做法沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2694.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2695.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
維持不變 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2695.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2698.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
包含衛生標準輸入查驗流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2698.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2701.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
以及對於違規產品的處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2701.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2705.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
輸入馬鈴薯由農業部及衛生福利部雙重把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2705.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
農業部負責發芽等檢疫議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2711.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
衛務部負責衛生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2711.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2717.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
加工用馬鈴薯在輸入台灣前應符合農業部的檢疫條件規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2717.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2723.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
抵台後在邊境上需通過檢疫及食品衛生安全查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2723.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2725.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
以及後市場抽驗之把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2727.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
馬鈴薯論在任何階段都要符合衛生標準等食品安全規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2740.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
我國針對馬鈴薯定有包含輪回減在內200ppm的限量規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2740.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2749.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
由腐爛發霉輪回減超標等情形皆因予以整顆丟棄不得流入加工用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2749.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2751.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
在邊境管控環節 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2751.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2755.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
本部食品藥物管理署執行輸入查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2755.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2759.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
以產品風險進行抽樣檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2759.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2765.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
檢驗項目包含農藥殘留、重金屬及輪回減等項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2765.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2770.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
經檢驗不符規定要求產品退印或銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2775.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
對於經農業部檢疫發現有發芽問題的整批馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2775.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
將先由農業部監督業者剔除發芽整顆馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
再由衛生單位執行抽樣檢驗、輪回減 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2785.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
經檢驗不符規定整批銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2789.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2792.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
本部以國人健康為最高原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2792.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
將持續與跨部會密切合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
與邊境查驗及後市長抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
確認馬鈴薯符合相關規定共同把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
本部城大院各委員之指教及監督在此進行現審 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
並請各位委員繼續予以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2808.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2809.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2813.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
謝謝我們衛福部莊長次的報告跟說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2813.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
接下來我請行政院主計總處陳主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
做專題跟預算內容的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2822.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2824.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
主席、各位委員、女士 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2824.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
今天很榮幸邀邀練習貴委員會來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
以下緊就本總處114年度施政績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
115年度施政計畫重點和預算編列情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
還有直轄市和縣市一般性補助災害準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
和第二預備金等科目預算編列情形提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
第一個先就本總處114年施政績效部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
稅績和會計部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
一編制完成115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
和附屬單位預算中計表 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
於114年8月29日 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
送請大院來審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2865.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
第二個就是編制完成114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2865.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2867.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
中央政府總預算追加預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2867.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2871.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
中央政府丹那斯、颱風及728豪雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2871.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2873.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
災後復原重建特別預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2873.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2877.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
也是在114年8月29日審議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2877.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2880.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
三編制完成中央政府總因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2880.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安任性特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2888.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
於114年10月17日審議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2888.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
編制完成中央政府馬花蓮馬太安西 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2894.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
驗社福災後重建特別預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2894.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2898.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
於114年12月2日審議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2898.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2901.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
編制完成113年度中央政府總決算及 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2901.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2903.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
附屬單位決算中計表及 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2903.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2906.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2906.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
第四期特別決算在114年7月29日審議通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
二、統計業務部分案本 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2916.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
本總書案時編布物價和國民所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2916.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
各項金色的一個統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
並不斷強化與國際接軌提升統計服務能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
另普查和抽樣調查業務部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2928.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
分每年辦理一次的普查作業進程 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2930.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
完成114年農林業普查試驗調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2934.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
延年115年工業及服務業普查規劃構想 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2938.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
並持續按月辦理人力資源調查與 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2941.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
受雇員工薪資調查及完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2944.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
112年國戶統計報告及 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2946.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
113年家庭收支調查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2949.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
二、本總書115年度施政計畫重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2953.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
預稅及和會計部分持續強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2956.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
中程計畫預算制度落實臨機預算精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2959.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
配合當前政府施政重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2961.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
合併116年度中央政府總預算案及 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2965.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
附屬單位預算及中計表 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2967.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
並加強特種基金財務控管 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2970.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
提升會計決算和財務報道品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
並協助機關強化內部控制監督作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2975.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2977.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
二、統計和普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2977.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
普查及抽樣調查業務部分將持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
經歷各項金色統計辦理技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2984.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
以及提升統計服務效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2984.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2986.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
並依普查作業進程 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2986.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
辦理每年一次的同意於 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2992.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
漁牧業普查實地訪查與 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2992.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2994.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
工業服務業普查試驗調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2995.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2999.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
各單位詳細重點請參閱報告內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2999.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3002.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
本總書115年度預算案編列情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3002.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3005.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
稅入編列139萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3005.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
稅出編列17億9千136萬4千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
比114年度預算數增列3億5038萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
主要是增加每年辦理一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
每五年辦理一次的農民漁牧業普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3025.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
正式查訪作業經費2億7千6百96萬1千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3025.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3029.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
以及辦理每五年一次的工業服務業普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3029.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3033.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
第二次試驗調查作業經費2千898萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3033.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3036.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
詳細編列內容參閱14頁至18頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3036.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3040.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
那至於直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3041.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
115年度直轄市和縣市一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3047.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
在案準備及第二預備金科目編列情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3047.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3051.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
115年度編列直轄市和縣市一般性補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3051.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3053.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
2,501億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3053.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3057.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
在案準備及50億元及第二預備金80億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3057.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3058.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
簡要說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3058.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
一般性補助款的一個直轄市和縣市一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3066.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
因為財政收支化、風法修法以後 |
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3066.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3071.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
地方貨配中央統籌分配稅大增4,165億元 |
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3071.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
115年度達8,841億元 |
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3074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
各市縣政府已有四組參與制印其自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3081.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
為落實地方自治精神確保各市縣政府所獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3081.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
徵裁員能夠妥善運用及使全體國民受到均等的照顧 |
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3086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3091.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
其補助事項是必須做配合、做合理的一個調整 |
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3091.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3094.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
配合調整的事項主要是包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3095.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3098.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
中央對直轄市和縣市補助辦法第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3098.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3100.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
一般性補助的補助範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3100.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3103.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
包括經常性、補給性、基本建設或 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3103.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3106.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
委運性質、財政均衡等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3106.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3110.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
115年度直轄市和縣市一般性補助款分配情形 |
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3112.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3118.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
本總署也邀請中央各機關和各市縣市代表共同研討確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3118.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3121.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
有關各項補助經費的內容和用途說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3121.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3127.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
經常性、普及性、基本設施和委運性質的專項補助1764億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3127.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3131.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
主要包括教育部主管813億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3131.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
是辦理二至未滿六歲的幼兒教育與照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3137.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
衛福部主管編列337億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
是未滿兩歲嬰幼兒的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
教育部主管編列155億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
是辦理T-Pass行政院通勤月票執行計畫安心模圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
道路交通系統建置的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3157.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3160.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
以上各主管部會由那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3160.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3167.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
各黨紀 會院115年4月17日黨團協商結論將由其所屬委員會審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3167.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
社會福利經費406億元是補助各市縣政府低收入戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
身心障礙老人婦女青少年等兒童的一個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
財政軍團補助及考核獎勵331億元主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3184.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
保障115年各市縣政府獲批中央統籌分配稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3184.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
一般性補助款計畫型補助款不低於114年度獲配合度 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3191.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
災害準備金部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3192.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3194.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
現行中央政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3194.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
每自91年度每一年編列災害準備金20億元或50億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
114年度考慮考量台灣為處地震帶及受極端氣候影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3208.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
各種災害規模頻傳規模逐漸破到 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3208.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3214.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
為因應因為為及時因應災害緊急應變需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3214.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3216.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
編列均編列50億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3216.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3218.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
那第二預備金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3218.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3223.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
以112年113年144年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3223.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
為例分別申請94、83、99億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
經行政院加控管實際核准動制分別73億和77億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
均在首編的第二預備金範圍內核准率是78、88、78 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3240.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
所以中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3241.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3242.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
中央機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3244.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3248.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
總預算至酬編至今通過執行以續續一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3248.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3251.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
所以為因應年度進行中花生酬編預算時 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3251.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
未予考量事項臨時正是在客觀環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3258.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
所以我們橫走近三年度實際動制情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3258.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3262.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
115年度編列第二預備金80億元以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3262.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3264.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
進行各位委員指教及支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3264.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3265.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3267.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
謝謝我們主計總處的主機長陳主機長 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3273.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
接下來我請審計部陳審計長進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3274.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3275.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
報告說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3280.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3282.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
主席、各位委員、理事先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3283.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
緊緊檢要報告直下 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3285.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3291.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
113年度中央政府總結算及附屬單位結算及中計表 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3291.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3296.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第四期特別結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3296.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3300.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
本部已依憲法規定的期限完成審核 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3300.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3302.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
各縣市政府年度總結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3302.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3307.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
一經各地方審計措施在法定期限內完成審核 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3307.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3311.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
提出重要審核意見2456項 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3311.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3316.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
114年度中央政府半年結算報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3316.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3318.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
本部已完成查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3318.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3322.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
各竹峽市政府半年結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3322.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3326.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
一經本部地方審計措施在法定期限內完成查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3326.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3329.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
提出重要審核意見63項 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3329.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3333.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
更新強化審計功能與樂蜀串新核心價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3333.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3338.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
未來六年以智慧審計、勇氣審計、破壞審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3338.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3341.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
熱性審計及共識戰略等四大面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3341.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3343.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
除夕審化、監督洞察 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3343.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3347.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
前瞻三大政府的審計功能專業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3348.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
並除夕以創新書為進進審計業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3351.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3353.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
4.更新優化審核報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3353.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3355.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
編報內容及租信揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3355.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3358.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
除夕審化重要書證議題查核專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3358.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
並匯編行政機關優良食物案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3363.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3368.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
推廣扣測行情及優化總結算審核報告租信揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3369.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3373.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
5.導入多元資訊科技推動數位審計發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3373.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3378.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
具體作為包括除夕扣充數位審計模組及工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3378.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3381.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
應用大事劑分析與AI輔助審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3381.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3386.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
並推動公司部門、集合單位、專業交流與分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3386.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
及建立審計資料中心統整應用查核資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3390.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3393.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
6.加強審計培訓後續專業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3393.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
除夕促進審計專業培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
鼓勵數位住主學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3398.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3401.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
並擴展國際審計視野 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3402.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
7.更新推展公民參與近三年度已完成專家之行計553次 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3414.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
並發布1795則重要審計資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3414.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
8.在審計綜合績效方面審核113年度結算 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
依法修正稅入收入結算增累16億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
減累16億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3429.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3430.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
依法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3430.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
稅出租出結算增累40億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
減累54億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
考核各機關資金下 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
並報告監察院者66案 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
提出重要建議改善意見341項 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3447.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
認為有可能提升效能及增進公共利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3447.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
提出建議意見1013項 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3453.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
提出預警性意見232項 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3453.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
稽查財務上之維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
報請監察院處理者上案 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3461.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
移送司法機關偵辦者5案 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3461.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
通知各機關查明處理者117案 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3466.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
114年度預算執行情形本部級首時 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
114年度稅出預算251萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
累計時收286億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
稅出預算17億9633萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3488.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
累計支付17億9442萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3488.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
115年度市政計畫重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3494.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
包括1.樂食監督旅行財務客軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3494.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3497.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
強化洞察提升市政效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3497.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3500.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
邁向前瞻展二期數脈動 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3502.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3505.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
以及創新市委啟動審計革新 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3505.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
3.115年度預算變略情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3512.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
本部級首時150年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3512.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3515.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
稅出預算案共變略232萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3515.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3518.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
稅出預算案共變略18億1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3519.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
主案各機關單位預算分數如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3521.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3523.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
審計部單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3523.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3525.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
編列14億1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3527.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3530.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
審計部台北市審計處單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3530.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
編列8250萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3532.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3535.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
新北市審計處單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3535.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3537.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
編列7550萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3537.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
桃園市審計處單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3542.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
編列6671萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3542.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3544.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
台中市審計處單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3544.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3547.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
編列7289萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3547.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3550.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
台南市審計處單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3550.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3552.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
編列7354萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3552.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
高雄市審計處單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3558.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
編列8981萬1元 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3558.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3560.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
以上為本部級首時 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3560.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
115年度施政計畫重點及預算案主要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3570.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
敬請主席各位委員女士先生會以支持與指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3570.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
好 謝謝陳審計長的說明跟報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
那接下來我們開始雜詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3578.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
我先做以下的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3578.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3580.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
每位出席委員發言時間8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3580.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3582.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
必要時的延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3582.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3584.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
每位列席委員發言時間14分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3584.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3586.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
今天上午10點截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3586.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3588.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
現在依登記的順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3588.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3592.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
請登記第一位嚴寬恒委員進行質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3600.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3602.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
主席各位歷史觀人大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3602.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3605.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
主席有請國內部胡次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3606.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3608.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
好 請農業部胡正四 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3610.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3612.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
好 還有哪一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3613.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3614.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
好 來 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3614.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3617.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
先請我們主席總處的陳主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3617.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3618.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
陳主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
早 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3631.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
那先跟你討論民生方面的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3632.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3639.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
主席總處的主要工作是針對社會指標國民所得家庭收入調查及各項物價指數的進行統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3639.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3640.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
那因為我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3640.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3643.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
要討論就是說這個數據本身如果無法反映真實 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3643.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3646.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
那政府的施政方向是否會產生偏差 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3646.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3648.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
這個有很大的一個疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3648.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
1年1年家戶可知會所得中位數占平均數比例是87.45% |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
但是到了113年已經降到84.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3659.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3664.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
那這顯示家戶所得平均數的成長遠快於中位數 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3664.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3668.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
所以所得分配不均的趨勢越來越明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3668.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3673.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
那主席總處對外發布的五等分位倍數從101年到113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3674.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3676.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
只增加了0.01倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3676.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3680.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
那這個數據呈現幾乎是完全沒有變動無法解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3680.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
那民眾對於說薪資分配不均身體壓力巨大的感受落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3687.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
那是不是可以解讀說 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
大眾所關心的這些分配問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3690.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
已經無法單靠五等分配倍數來展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3694.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
這第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3696.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3698.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我們家庭收支調查的樣本數 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3699.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3703.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
從103年以來長達11年都維持在 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3704.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3706.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
16528戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3707.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
那這11年以來全國總家戶數母體增加了超過97萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3716.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
那以桃園為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3716.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3720.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
這個母體戶數這11年來增加了26.48% |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3720.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3721.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3722.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3725.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
本數卻始終是1500戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3725.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3731.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
那用第17期調查的可支配所得的便利數 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3731.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3735.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
介於1.6%到1.9% |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3735.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3738.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
那是民國84年以來個期最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3738.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3741.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
這就代表說統計誤差正在擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
那民眾要知道如何對這份數據有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
那我們身為專業的統計單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
那什麼時候要開始著手校正 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
有沒有要校正 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3755.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
先問我們主席總書 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3756.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3757.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
這兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3762.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們一般抽樣的一個案件數並不是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3762.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3766.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
而是說抽樣的一個那個有沒有精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3766.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3768.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
就是那個些樣本有沒有精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3768.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3769.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
分層有沒有分層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3769.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3771.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
不清楚請你大聲一點好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3771.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
就是說我們抽樣的樣本數並不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3778.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
因為我們是整個22縣市全部去做抽樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3778.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3782.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
那大概如果各個職銷是說差不多1500個樣本這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3782.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
但是問題就是說你有時候增加樣本 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3789.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
不見得說對他整個有很大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3789.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3793.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
一個那個所以本身我們目前一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3793.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3798.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
像我們是抽出1.9%1.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3798.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3801.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
那但是也都高於每日的一個抽出的樣本 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3801.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3805.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
那所以這個部分就是看我們分層抽的一個準確度 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3805.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3808.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
這個部分我們是會加強這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3808.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3811.54 |
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那你如果增加樣本數不見得能夠增加他的一個精準度 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3811.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3813.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
那怎麼樣能夠增加準確性 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3813.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
所以這個部分我們就會盡起來儘量來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
那我請我們這個處長他跟你報告一下就是說怎樣來改善這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
盡量簡短好不好時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3828.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
其實那個在做調查的時候那個樣本數不是很絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3828.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
我們在抽的好的就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3832.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
所以我們在分層這一部分我們做了很大的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3832.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3836.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
我們也結合大數據的那個內政部那個國土資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3836.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3838.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
那個整個分層我們大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3838.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3842.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
抽好以後先是看看我們大概整個層的一個互動狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3842.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3845.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
所以目前的整個那個雖然是1萬6千多戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3845.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3849.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
但是我們的那個整個便利係數我們控制大概那個千分 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3849.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3852.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
大概在那個就百分之二以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3852.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3854.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
所以這個是部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3854.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3859.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
好再請教那收支調查是政府自訂社會福利最低工資 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3859.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3862.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
還有付稅調整的重要指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3862.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3864.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
如果說系統性的偏差 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3864.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3867.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
我們剛剛提到這個部分的話都將會實質好理 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3867.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3869.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
實際上我們就會差之千里 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3869.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3871.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
所以在政策的自訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3871.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3873.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
如果因為這個偏差 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3873.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3877.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
那可能就會導致後面整個一個系統性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3877.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3881.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
的一種不完整性 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3881.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3883.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
一種敗壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3883.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3885.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
那我再提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3886.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
我們看到這15個執行率連續三年到四年未達八成的基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
特別是國立空中大學還有國立文化機構作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
還有客發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
這三者連續四年執行率甚至不到四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
所以連續四年執行率不到四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3908.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
這代表這些計畫從頭到尾都在亂編 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3908.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3910.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
你們有經費有編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3915.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
但是這樣子的一個執行率那麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3915.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3917.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
那根據預算法第66條 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3917.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3919.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
你們隨時可以派員 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3919.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3923.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
負各機關實地調查實際的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3923.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3925.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
那你們到底有沒有去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3925.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3927.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
有沒有善盡督導考核 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3927.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3930.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
那各種這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3930.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3933.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
他會計制度實施狀況的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3933.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3935.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
有沒有去督導跟考核 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3935.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3938.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
那如果有為何執行率會這麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3938.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3939.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
那如果沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3939.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
那就是代表說主計總處執行現狀完全脫節 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3947.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
僅靠紙本來管理上千億的特診基金預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3948.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3950.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
來 主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3950.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
恩偉報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3956.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
我們大部分都有請同仁到各基金然後去做輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3956.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
如果這項這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3957.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3960.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
那剛剛談到的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3960.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3963.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
科學園區管理作為基金這個部分執行比較困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3963.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3965.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
大部分主要是台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3965.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
台中那個園區他擴建二期 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
那個主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
這個時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3971.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
我想說預算不是提管機 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3971.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3974.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
所以拉算的錢不能亂花 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3974.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3977.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
我要求就是說一個月內提出改善報告好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3977.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3978.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3978.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3979.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3979.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3980.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3980.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3981.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3981.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3982.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
先請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3982.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
主席那個農業部政次長來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3984.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3985.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
農業部政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3994.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3995.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3995.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3996.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
來 由請 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
來 胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3999.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3999.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4000.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
我們從小 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4000.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4002.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
這個小時候就被長輩或老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4002.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4004.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
或者是家長告知說 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4004.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4007.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
馬鈴薯這個發芽有毒不能吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4007.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4009.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
還有發霉 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4009.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4011.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
還是那個都不能吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4011.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4012.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
有毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4012.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4015.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
那但是只要說一袋馬鈴薯裡面有一顆兩顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4015.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4017.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
我們基本上整袋就都丟掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4017.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4018.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
整袋就不敢用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4018.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4021.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
但是現在我們政府告訴我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4021.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4023.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
只要剔除有問題的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4023.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
而且加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4026.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
這個農許的那個所謂的農魁鹼的一個毒素 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
農許只要放寬到200ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
那其實這個農魁鹼是很毒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
它不只是會破壞我們的細胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4039.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
它甚至還有神經的神經毒素 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4039.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
所以輕則就是藕痛腹瀉 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
然後筋丸 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4044.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4045.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
但是如果嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4045.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
它血液血壓下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
發燒還有神經系統的病狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4050.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
甚至於死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4050.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
所以說你怎麼有辦法確認說 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
你發現這顆丟掉其他的沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
這第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
第一個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
我們把假設這些都流入了加工端 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4062.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
流入加工端 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4062.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
那到時候誰敢吃誰要負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4064.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
你們搬進防疫也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4066.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
農藥部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4068.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4069.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
農委部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4069.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
然後搬進防疫讓它進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4070.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4071.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
然後到加工端 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4071.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
那這樣子你要告訴國民說沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4074.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4075.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
沒問題拿掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4075.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4078.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
我們一年從美國進口五億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4080.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
五億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4083.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
那有多少人可以去抽檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4083.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4085.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
有多少人可以去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4085.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
有辦法五億顆都看過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4088.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
這我不相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4088.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
農委就在滴水不漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4092.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
還有外部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4092.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4095.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
文宣上面說會進行市場抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4095.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
那我們要等到它流入市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
流入加工端 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4102.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
變成食品之後再去抽案 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4102.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4103.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4103.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4105.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
那這樣子到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4105.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
這些本來是美國業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4108.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
要自行處理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4108.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4110.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
現在跑到我們台灣之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4110.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
然後由於我們台灣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
要佈置人力物力 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
然後去抽檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
然後我們的機能人文 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
還有我們台灣的加工業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
我們台灣的人民變成保護署 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
變成有這個中毒的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
它本來是他們國內美國要自己處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4128.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
現在變成我們台灣的保護署處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4128.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4130.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
所以我們台灣現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4130.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4132.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
我們的農藥部、衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4132.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4133.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
還有我們這些部會首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4133.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
好像是在替美國服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4136.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
不是替我們台灣人服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4136.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4139.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
這部份我想時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4139.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
我們台灣的食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4143.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
不可以一退再退 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4143.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
縱使要討好美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
也不可以一退再退 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4148.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
這部份我想時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4148.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
我就要求我們農藥部 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4152.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
這個部份跟我們衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4152.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
要從實 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4153.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4156.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
要怎麼樣能夠完全的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4156.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4158.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
這五億顆的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4158.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4160.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
要怎麼樣滴水不漏做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4160.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4162.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
你們可不可以提出一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4163.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
在檢疫的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
農藥部是負責檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
那剛才委員說到農花田 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
農花田那是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4171.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
因為這個是食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4171.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4173.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
在檢疫的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4173.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4174.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
我們是針對三樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4174.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
一個就是說你這個進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4176.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4178.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
你有沒有八種病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4178.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
第二個有沒有帶土 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
第三你有沒有發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4183.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
發芽有沒有超過0.5公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4183.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4186.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
市長我知道農藥部有農藥部的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4186.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4187.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
安衛部有農藥部職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4187.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4189.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
我們要把自己的工作做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4189.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4193.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
但是我們國人擔心的是有毒物 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4193.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4195.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
擔心的是食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4195.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4197.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
但是為什麼只有美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4197.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
可以其他國家不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4199.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4201.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
現在只有美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4201.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4202.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
我們要做到滴水不漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4205.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4206.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
好的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4207.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4208.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4209.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4211.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
謝謝我們前蘇研官員委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4211.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4213.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
接下來請吳秉瑞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4226.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
主席麻煩請審計部審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4229.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4230.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
請主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4230.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4231.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4231.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4232.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4237.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4238.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4238.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4239.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
生養早 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4239.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4244.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
我們外交部有捐助一個民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4245.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4248.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
那又捐助了張誠的內容你了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4248.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4249.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4249.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4255.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
他是為了要主要的目的是因為中共在全世界打壓我們我們有幫家的國家不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4256.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
那所以為了要 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4258.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4260.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
推廣這個外交的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4260.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
所以放在國會可以辦一些國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
所以董事長是本院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4271.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
那他原來捐助成立的目的是為了要推廣民主跟自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4272.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4273.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
這一次啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4273.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4277.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
台灣中國國民黨的這個黨主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4278.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4279.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
去中國訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4280.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4282.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
他申請這個基金會補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4284.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4286.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
這個申請這個基金會補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4287.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4289.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
補助要給補助計畫啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4289.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4291.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
他申請說明書上面說 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4291.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4296.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
他是去中國推廣台灣民主自由的理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4298 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4302 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
我看全程的那個新聞媒體我有看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4303.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4307.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
從頭到尾沒有講到台灣沒有講到民主沒有講到自由啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4307.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4309.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
那這樣我想要請教說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4309.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4311.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
在審計部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4311.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4314.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
我們這個補助提一個書面文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4314.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4318.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
所作所為都跟這個這個書面的表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4318.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4321.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
不相干或是甚至做相反的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4321.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4323.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
這樣可以申請補助嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4324.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4326.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
這個基金會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4326.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4327.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
他有一些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4327.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4330.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
如果你要申請補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4330.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4331.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
就足行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4333.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4335.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4335.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4338.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
外交部是他的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4338.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4339.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
外交部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4339.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4341.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
在財團法人法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4341.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4343.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
外交部要負責查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4343.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4345.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
如果有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4345.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4348.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
外交部要給他一些相當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4348.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4352.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
不是台灣的這個民主基金會這個主事在查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4352.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4354.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
他因為他申請基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4354.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4358.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
他申請480萬是向台灣民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4358.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4362.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
他申請480萬是向台灣民主基金會申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4362.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4364.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
我現在要問你的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4364.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4366.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
他申請的申請書的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4366.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4368.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
說要去中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4368.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4370.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
推廣台灣的民主自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4370.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
這個制度給中國了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4376.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
但是我看到了整個媒體報導各個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4376.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4378.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
完全都沒有這些內容啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4378.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4379.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4379.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
這個我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4381.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
我就先問你這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
我的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
如果有一個人的申請書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4387.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4389.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
跟他所做所為完全不相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4389.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4391.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
甚至背道而馳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4392.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4394.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4393.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4395.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
基金會應該要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4395.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4398.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
基金會要根據他整個執行的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4398.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4401.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
來先第一段他要審核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4401.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4403.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
他要審核完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4403.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4406.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
才來進行第二段這一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4406.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4408.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
如果他同意了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4408.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4410.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
或者是他不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4410.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4413.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
外交部是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4413.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4414.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
也要把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4414.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4418.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
第三段如果這個問題卻有那個的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4418.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4420.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
我們也會督促 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4420.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4423.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
外交部你要好好的來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4423.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4425.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
那這個案子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4425.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4428.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
報導啊或者去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4428.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4430.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
他還沒有辦理核銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4430.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4434.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
請教你假設他真的這樣核銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4434.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4435.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
假設要這樣核銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4435.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4437.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
因為現在準的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4438.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4440.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
現在是本院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4440.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4443.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
當這個基金會的董事長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4443.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4446.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
那他裡面的董監事如果就給他過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
假設啦我現在是假設性問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
那你審計部門最後能有什麼作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4455.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
我們這個案子如果他過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4455.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4458.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
那他外交部他再次主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4458.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4460.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
依照財團法人法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4460.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
所以你一直說外交部可以跟立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4465.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
院長所主持的民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4465.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4467.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
跟他講說你這個使用的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4467.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4470.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
跟你的作為跟你事實上你的申請完全不符 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4470.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4472.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
所以外交部可以跟他講說不可以發嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4472.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
這是他是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4475.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
這是他的前途 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4475.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4477.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
你為什麼不用公文告訴立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4478.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4481.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
院長所主導的民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4481.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4483.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
不可以補助是這樣的意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4483.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
這個是要看他的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4486.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4488.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
依照他的事實來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4488.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4491.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
他的事實經過外交部認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4491.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
有一些瑕疵或者是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
剛剛講的一些假設的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
那些外交部要主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
要基於他主管機關的監督立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
那外交部我再問一個假設性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4508.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
外交部如果已經正式發文給民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4512.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
說這不符合目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4513.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4515.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
結果民主基金會是一定要補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4515.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
那會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
你們審計部能有什麼作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
我們會依據外交部的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
發文後查核的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4527.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
來處理這些相關的帳戶問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4528.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4530.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
相關帳戶問題什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4530.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4532.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
他就是給他假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4532.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4534.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
退一萬不講真的給他的480萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4534.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4537.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
然後外交部也根據你現在講的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4537.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
跟他審核說因為不符合這個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
那也不符合你的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4544.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
所以不應該給予補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4544.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4547.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
可是民主基金會仍然要給他補助的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4547.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4550.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
你們審計部最後能做什麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4550.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4554.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我們會進行要外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4554.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4557.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
再督促外交部來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4557.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4559.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
如果外交部未做適當的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4559.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4561.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
我們會給外交部相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4561.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4565.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
那外交部能做什麼樣適當的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4565.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4567.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
就是他主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4567.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4569.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
主管機關那你是民主基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4569.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
他就覺得他比你大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4571.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4573.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
我們在你打電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4573.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4575.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
多少人講說我就是比你大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4575.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4577.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
要給你要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
做壞事的人不得到制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
你要去制裁外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4584.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
我是在假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4584.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4586.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
外交部已經正式跟你回答說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4586.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4588.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
這不符合規定你不可以補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4588.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
那台灣民主基金會仍然要補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
國家有國家的體制要依照國家的體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4594.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
那我現在就是要問你國家的體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
那審計部是不是要送監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
還是要移送檢調單位處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
我是要問你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
我要督促外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
外交部就記下指責跟他講說這不合法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4608.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
當然他外交部有不合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4612.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
但是這個案子堅持在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4612.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
我們審計部當然會去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
了解完了以後如果事實就如假設一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
那當然是說有的是我們就會送監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4622.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4624.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
我們就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4624.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4628.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
因為這個如果有不法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4628.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
我們送檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
這個是當然是我們審計部的主責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4633.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
中華民國的立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4633.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
現在的加起來的多數黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4637.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
立法院的多數黨簡直就是太上皇了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
你送監察院也沒用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
他監察院預算都不給你過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
監察院代理院長跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
他們很可憐連電梯都沒辦法開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4647.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4649.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
因為電梯都被刪光了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4650.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
親口跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4652.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4654.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4653.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4655.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
現在就是無法無天了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4655.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4657.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
我現在跟你講我們大家講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4657.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
外交部有他的職權他應該去查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
那外交部如果已經據實已告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4663.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
跟他講說查核的規矩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4664.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4668.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
查核的結果不符合規定不應該於補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4669.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
這時候有兩種結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4673.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
有一種就是民主基金會從善如流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4673.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4675.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
那我就不補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4675.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4677.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
另外一種就是民主基金會說補我仍然在補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
因為我的董監事我人多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4681.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4683.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
所以我的董監事仍然在補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4683.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4685.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
那補助了之後你給他送監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4685.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4687.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
沒關係監察院等於是被他廢掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4690.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4694.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
所以我來講我們很屁啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4694.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4696.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
台灣的國台現在就是比你大啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4697.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4699.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
就是有人說我就是比你大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4699.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4701.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
國家的體制什麼東西都不重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4701.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4706.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
好我是要讓你了解說你有可能會面對將來有可能會面對這樣的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4706.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4708.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
請你回座啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4708.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4712.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
我不是問你回答我只是說我問個問題該怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4712.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4713.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
你要想清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4713.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4714.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4714.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4715.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4716.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4718.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
來我們請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4718.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4720.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
關木屬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4720.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4722.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
現在一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4725.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4726.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4728.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
現在這個發芽馬鈴薯這個查核標準有沒有變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4736 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4739 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
報告委員是指簡易的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4739 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4742 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
簡易的部分是農委會房間署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4742 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4744 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
不是啊你們不是要配合嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4744 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4749 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
那不然就請農委會跟這樣衛福部都一起上來大家一起回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4750.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4752.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
制度的改變在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4752.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4753.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
請農政事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4754.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4755.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
莊市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4760.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4766.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
報告委員在我們這一次改變的部分在簡易的部分啊我們是這樣子本來如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4767.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4769.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4768.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4773.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
馬鈴薯進口有三種一種是種薯進來做做種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4773.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
那第二個就是先食用的第三個就是用加工用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4786.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
那過去啊這個先食跟加工只要驗到有發芽超過0.5公分或者是有其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4786.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
這個龍蝴蟹超過200ppm這個衛福部這邊查到這個的話一律退 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4795.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
那目前先食的部分還是維持本來的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4795.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4800.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
那加工的部分啊加工的部分他就如果我們發現在邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
衛福部發現200ppm這個馬上就必須要退 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4810.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
那如果他的這個有帶土有八種病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4810.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4816.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
那另外就是他這個他的發芽超過了0.5公分以上的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4816.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4822.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
我們會要求啊這個退運或者是銷毀不能帶土也不能有病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4822.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
那這一次的改變就是以前整個都退運這一次是不是還要進一步檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4827.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
加工的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4828.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
加工的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4830.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4830.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
加工的部分標準是不是跟日本的標準相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4833.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
比日本還嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
因為日本只有驗兩種病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4837.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4840.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
不是啦我是在講那個發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4840.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4843.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
發芽的部分日本沒有管他不管發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4843.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4846.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
他不管日本發芽的進口發芽的他也加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4847 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4850 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
因為他們只要美國提出那請衛福部回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4850 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4858 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
那剛剛講到那個龍蝴蜆在發芽的部分產生的這些的有可能產生的這些的有毒物質要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4858 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4864 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
這個部分就是其實那個馬來西亞有沒有發芽跟龍蝴蜆龍蝴蜆不一定相關啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4864 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4869 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
所以我們現在就是說我們其實整個檢驗的標準整個食安的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4869 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4871 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
這個全世界一直都沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4871 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4876 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
那這個龍蝴蜆200ppm從107年就定到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4876 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4878 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
全世界有沒有一致的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4878 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4882 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
目前大概加拿大這邊也有採用這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4882 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4883 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
只有加拿大嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4883 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4885 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
還有對加拿大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4885 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4886 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
日本有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4886 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4888 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
日本不驗啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4888 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4890 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
因為日本生產很多馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4890 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4892 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
所以日本本身也在處理馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4892 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4896 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
這個東西國人關心就是有人會利用這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4896 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4901 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
Tenny要求在要求然後再製造台灣跟美國的緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4901 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4904 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
然後之後再拿這個東西打說政府無能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4904 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4906 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
沒有辦法保護人民的食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4906 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4908 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
他們的目的是要講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4908 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4910 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
這是要做政治操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4910 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4912 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
所以請你們要小心回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4912 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4916 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
請你們一定要把這件事情向國人清楚的澄清好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4916 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4917 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4917 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4918 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
謝謝吳秉銳委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4918 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4920 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
接下來我們請第三位林德福委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4933.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4935.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
是不是請陳審記長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4939.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4940.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
陳審記長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4941.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4943.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4944.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
這個陳審部的阮市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
阮市長請阮市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4951.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4954.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
農業部的這個胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4955.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4957.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
還有這個衛福部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4957.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4959.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
張市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4959.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4963.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
還有食藥署的這個蔡副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4964.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4965.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
蔡副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4968.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4969.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4970.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4971.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4972.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
陳審記長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4972.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
因為我國發生進口辣椒粉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4975.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
含工業用的蘇丹紅樹等食安的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
危害國人的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
引發民眾的恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
那審計部有提出這個專案審計報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
同樣的道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
本席也希望審計部針對馬寧署食品安全的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
進行一個專案調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
從農業部衛福部馬寧署加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
所在地地方的衛生渠道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
這個到底投入多少的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
設備確保民眾食品的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
尤其是實驗室的檢驗能量是否足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
5013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5016.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
本席是希望說審計部會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5016.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5020.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
能夠給我們所有立委一份書面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5020.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
5021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
5022.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
5022.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5024.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5024.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
按照過去這個衛教宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
都在告訴民眾誤食用花芽的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
然而近期馬寧署的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5038.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
許多網紅分享不正確的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5038.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
告訴民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5042.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
割掉花芽部分的還是可以食用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5042.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
那現任食藥署江志剛署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
在2018年在台大當醫師的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
寫了一篇文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
看見綠頭的薯條怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
內容提到花芽的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5064.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
龍葵鹼含量則在1000ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5064.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5066.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
其中花芽的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5069.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5070.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5074.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
龍葵鹼含量更高達2000ppm可見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5074.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5078.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
專家都認為花芽馬寧署食安風險非常的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5078.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5082.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
那我請問衛福部遇到花芽馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5082.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5084.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
建議民眾要如何處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5084.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5085.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5085.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5089.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
有關花芽馬寧署的一定是整顆丟棄不能使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5089.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5090.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
要丟棄嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5090.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5091.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5091.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5094.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
那媒體報導說林口長庚醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5094.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5098.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
臨床毒物中心的主任閻中海指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5098.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
即使僅有少數馬寧署出現花芽的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5104.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
其所含的龍葵鹼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5104.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5109.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
能可能污染同批其他正常的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5109.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5114.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
呼籲主管機關應要加強龍葵鹼的抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5114.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5116.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
不管今天進口美國馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5116.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5119.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
是加工用的還是實用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5119.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
最後都是到消費者的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5122.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5124.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
變成民眾吃下肚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5124.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5125.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
你不管是加工也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5125.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
其他進口也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5127.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
幾乎都是下肚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5127.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
那為何使用馬寧署輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5133.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
馬寧署花芽必須整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5133.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5135.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
而加工的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5135.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
花芽後卻放寬整批馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5141.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
有條件的進入加工廠處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5141.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5142.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
你的看法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5142.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
現在的做法是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5152.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
如果是農業部在邊境發現有發芽的馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5152.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
那他們會把這些發芽馬寧署剔掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5157.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
那我們會針對這一批馬寧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5157.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5161.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
會再去做抽驗有關龍葵檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5161.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5163.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
那當然如果驗出超過200ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5163.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
就會整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
本席是希望農業部跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
要以民眾食品安全作為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
本席也希望說加工馬寧署花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5176.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
應該整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5176.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5178.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
你不能留存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5178.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
因為留存以後都會到消費者身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5184.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
讓他們來承擔食安的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5184.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5186.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
你認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5186.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5189.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
這個有關發芽可能是農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5189.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5191.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
對不對你們要說清楚講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5191.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5195.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
發芽不代表就有龍葵檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5195.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
因為那個必須要再經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
花芽不代表就有龍葵檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
因為花芽在0.5公分以內的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
那個是都會被承認的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
日本人根本就不檢查有沒有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
你不要講日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
我們今天是針對我們食安的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
因為你為什麼整批進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
加工就可以來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
不加工的話你就是只要有花學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5225.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
他確實有龍葵檢有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5225.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
就要整批退 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
這個裡面就是考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
為什麼食安是多重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
對不對不要把人民的健康來開玩笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5239.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
沒有錯我也是國民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5239.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
我的親友都是國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5242.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
我們非常重視這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5242.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
那在農業部的部分我們是防疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5245.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5246.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
主要是防疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5246.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5248.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
就怕這些流入的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5248.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
流到田裡面去種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
種的時候把國外的病人菌帶進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5253.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
這個是我們所擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5253.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5255.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
至於食品安全的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5255.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5257.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
這個要麻煩衛福部來做評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5257.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
本席先跟財政部跟農業部確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5259.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
美國加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5262.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5264.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
在海關的貨品號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5265.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5267.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
列的號碼是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5267.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
07019000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
然後之003 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5273.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
因為昨天我的助理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5273.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5277.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
有特別打電話去聯繫農業部的防檢署確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5277.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
而農業部在4月15日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
衛防委員會的書面報告裡面提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
新檢疫條件2月6日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5287.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
實施到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5287.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5291.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
尚有美國加工用的馬鈴薯輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5291.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
但是本席請助理查了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
上述貨品號列的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
今年3月從美國進口的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5303.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
數量有137公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5303.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5305.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
價值是221萬新台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5305.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5307.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
外界沒有辦法分辨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5307.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5309.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
哪些是加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5309.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5311.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
哪些是實用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5311.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5313.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
那我請問農業部跟財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5313.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5316.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
美國加工用與實用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5316.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5318.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
都在一個貨號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5318.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5320.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
如何來避免外界的誤判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5320.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
是 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5325.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
美國進來全部都是先實用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5325.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5327.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
都是生產的 沒有加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5327.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
那第二個 我們發現貨號是相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
所以已經跟財政部提出申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
相信在最近的時間以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
財政部就會給我們分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5340.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
那因為美國的加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5340.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
7月之後才會進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
所以這一段期間我們應該財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5347.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
因為人民很關心這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5347.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
對 都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5349.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
因為根據媒體報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5349.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5351.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
衛福部對進口馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5351.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5356.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
目前採一般的抽批查檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5356.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
那抽驗率2%到10%而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5361.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
那請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5361.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
這個衛福部分別說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5365.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
美國實用與加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5365.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5370.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
依規定抽檢龍蝴蜆含量超過200ppm時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5370.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
會如何處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5373.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
不管是火 實用或加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5373.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
都是整批 退運或銷毀嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
就是如果我們一旦驗到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5381.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
這個龍蝴蜆超過200ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5381.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5382.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
我們整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5382.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
也就是說它一批裡面可能有三個貨櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5387.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
這三個貨櫃就是退運或銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5387.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
一定不能進入到我們的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5393.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
因為人民非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5393.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5395.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
就是這個食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5396.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5398.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
農業部房檢署邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5398.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5400.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
築批查檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5400.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5402.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
查驗馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5402.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
打開貨櫃發現馬鈴薯發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5407.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
一線型的規定可封存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5407.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5409.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
然後印往加工場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5409.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5413.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
若該批馬鈴薯食藥署沒有抽到查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5415.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5418.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
農業部市委會通知食藥署去補查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5418.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5420.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
該批馬鈴薯的龍蝴蜆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5420.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5422.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
到底有沒有鈔標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5422.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5423.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
因為若龍蝴蜆鈔標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5429.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
那請問各主管機關你們要如何處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5431.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5433.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
就是我們會驗龍蝴蜆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5433.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5435.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
重金屬跟農藥殘留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5435.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5437.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
這三項只要鈔標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5437.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5439.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
就一定退運或銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5439.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5441.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
我是希望說這個要嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5441.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
農業房檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5447.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
打開貨櫃沒有發現馬鈴薯發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5447.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5450.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
但食藥署抽到要檢驗龍蝴蜆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5450.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
請問該批馬鈴薯是否需等化驗後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5456.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
出爐才能將整批貨櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5456.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5458.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
送往加工場加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5458.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5459.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5459.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5461.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
對一定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5461.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5464.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
是一定要等他的確沒有超過200層驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5464.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
現在的老百姓他們非常非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5469.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
有關於馬鈴薯的龍蝴蜆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5469.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
因為這個跟很多民眾在吃馬鈴薯以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
到底會不會產生食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
我認為這個是非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5484.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
我希望各行政官員本著良心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5484.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
自己吃才能讓一般的老百姓吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5490.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
你不要說因為我檢驗的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5490.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
然後這個上面規定怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
我要是去放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
然後到最後出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5501.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
那時候亡羊補牢都來不及了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5501.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
我們要事前去杜絕緩緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
那這個最後一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5509.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
關於中央政府永續發展政府的債券 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5509.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5511.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
目前看來財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5511.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5515.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
115年115第一期的公債 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5515.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
金門大學這個校舍興建外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
發行金額為新台幣4億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
年期為30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
那我請問財政部115年是否還有其他計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
會發行永續發展的債券 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
各位報告我們除了金門大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
這個永續建的發行之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
另外我們就是高雄的航空站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
那金額是790億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5546.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
那我們現在在輔導他能夠發行永續債 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5546.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5550.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
那這部分我們會積極來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5550.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
目前除了中央之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5557.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
我們也希望地方政府能夠加入來發行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5557.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5559.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
所以現在目前中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5559.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
已經發行了大概345億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
所以未來我們會跟金管會還有貴買中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
我們合作尋找相關的案源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
來發行相關的永續債 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
好 這樣我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
其實剛剛前一位委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5576.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
有一些我都聽不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
大家都很清楚 陳紀長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5581.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
那個卒局長你上來我請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5583.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5585.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
你那個電費說電梯沒有電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5585.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5587.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
沒有電費可以支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5589.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5590.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
可能嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5590.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5592.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
那是金藏門啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5592.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5594.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
你就是一算沒有過一樣可以發揮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5595.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5597.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
那個都是在騙老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
不是他如果沒有編預算就不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
沒有編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5600.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
你 欸拜託電費沒有編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
你每年都編的沒有編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5605.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
金藏門咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5607.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5609.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
那不是資本門咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5610.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
對不對 你主計長你做了那麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
難道連這一點你都不懂嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5616.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5617.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5620.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
因為他業務全部被減了97%啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5620.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5622.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
97啦 去年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5622.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5624.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
金藏門都可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5624.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5626.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
去年用的今年都可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5626.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5628.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
對不對 你就是一算沒有過也可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5628.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5630.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
大家心知肚明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5630.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5632.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
對不對 不要騙老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5634.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5636.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
金藏門啊 你的水電 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5636.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5638.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
該用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5638.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5640.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
本來金藏門就可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5640.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5642.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
資本門我不敢講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5642.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5644.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
因為一般金藏門主要是人事費和業務費為大宗啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5644.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5646.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
那再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5646.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5648.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
啊 電費沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5647.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5649.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
電費沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5649.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
所以他可以留用的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
你大宗你這個電費沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
你大宗的被減掉很多債 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5657.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
不要去扭曲啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5657.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
電費每年固定編的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
你喔 身為主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
你一定要講實話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
讓老百姓清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
我們是針對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
不要去扭曲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
我們沒有扭曲啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5673.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
好 謝謝林德虎委員的諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
現在請我們召會李彥秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5676.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
委員諮詢請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5678.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5680.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
謝謝主席 我可不可以邀請農業部胡政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5680.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5682.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
以及衛福部莊次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5682.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5684.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
以及相關需要署的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5684.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5686.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
一起上來 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5691.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5693.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5692.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
次長你好喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5694.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5696.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
這一次有關美國馬鈴薯進口的爭議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5696.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5698.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
無論剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5698.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我們很多規定都沒有調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
但是檢疫署在今年2月6號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
對於檢疫的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
其實還是有做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5708.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
把它分成加工跟限時分流的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5708.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
這個管理是調整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5714.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
這個管理的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5714.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5716.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
真正我個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5716.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5718.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
真正的風險不是一顆丟掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5718.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
或要不要挖掉的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5720.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5722.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
現在的風險是目前的整套配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5722.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5724.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5726.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
去撐得住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5726.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
這個調整的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5728.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
對於國人食安的風險到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
好 我就看到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
的防線設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
關鍵字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
就是指定加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
我們現在有一道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
邊境管理 第二道就是送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5742.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
指定加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5744.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
不合格的我們要整箱整顆的銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5746.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那合格才能合法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5748.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
輸入 那我要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5750.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5752.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我們現在境內關外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5752.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
新規定喔 指定加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5754.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5756.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
的廠商有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5756.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5758.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
過去是17家申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5758.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5760.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
有在進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5760.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5762.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
有17家申請為國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5762.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5764.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
指定加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5766.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
指定的地點有幾處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5766.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5768.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
進口商進口商有幾處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5768.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5770.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
指定的地點喔 有幾處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5770.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5772.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
那有足夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5772.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5774.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
篩選機器嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5774.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5776.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
我們現在總處理量 未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5776.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5778.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
不預估馬鈴薯的總 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5778.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5780.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
總進來的量到底有多少公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5780.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
有沒有辦法除以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
消化馬鈴薯進口約 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5786.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
四成的量 就是進口占比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5786.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
約四成的量 有沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5790.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
做這樣的篩選機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5790.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5792.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
報告委員 是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5792.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5794.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
如果在邊境我們檢查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5794.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5796.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
他如果 你不要再重複之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5796.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5798.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
講的話 因為你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5798.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5800.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
新做的調整機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5800.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5802.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
分成進口跟加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5802.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5804.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
跟限時 有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5804.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5806.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
我們送到第二關 你第二關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5806.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5808.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
我的問題是 你第二關沒有把關好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5808.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5810.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
我第一關邊境發生問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5810.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5812.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
我的加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5812.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5814.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
篩選的地點 沒把關好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5814.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5816.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
放了水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
那吃到東西就是國人的健康問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
你懂我的意思嗎 我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
我邊境的同仁 管得很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5825.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
看得很仔細 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5825.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
你後面指定加工場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
所以我剛才為什麼這樣問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
我問你說 你到底有幾家廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
然後指定的地點到底有幾處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
未來的總處理量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
可以有多少公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
要不然進來這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
我只有能力看那麼一點都塞在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
或者沒有仔細看 後面這是我們食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
這是我第一點要通險的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
房檢署一再的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
邊境的檢查加上加工場的篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
你們有雙重的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
但是這個監管機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
是不是像我們現在檢查大蒜一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
大蒜我們看到有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
跟土合在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
我們是用這樣的判定機制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
目前我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
還是我們是不定期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
你是每一顆都看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
還是說不定期的抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
在邊境我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
如果申報來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
比如說每一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
我們是抽檢60% |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
以後要再增加嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
因為以後跟美國進口馬鈴薯量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
可能會再增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
你會再增加抽檢機制量嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
這個60%已經很高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
因為班多高5% |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
10以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
所以你也不打算再調高就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
不是你的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
你認為60%已經很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我不知道國人滿不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
我個人是不滿意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
昨天一直在講日本模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
日本模式對於相關的加工場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
有明確的稽查機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
又有罰則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
我們現在有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
已經有了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5914.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5916.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
你相關的罰金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5916.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
包括廢止指定資格的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5920.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
你現在都已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5920.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5922.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
完整的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5922.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5924.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
我們如果在同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5924.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5926.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
就是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5926.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5928.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
如果查驗到我們就退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5928.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5930.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
退運不太好待機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5930.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5932.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
如果他有漏檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5932.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5934.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
或者有什麼樣的弊端的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5934.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5936.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
放水的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5936.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5938.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
有3萬到15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5938.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5940.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
我們用植物防疫檢疫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5940.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5942.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
第17條第1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5942.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5944.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
罰3萬到15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5944.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5946.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
國人可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5946.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5948.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
這個是我提醒的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5948.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5950.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
我希望你們回去再思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5950.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5952.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
我現在請衛福部的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5952.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5954.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
現在要把焦點從看得見的發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5954.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5956.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
轉到看不見的化學禪流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5956.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5958.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
剛才大家一直在談龍虧檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5958.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5960.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
但是事實上有另外一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5960.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5962.94 |
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房間署這一次 |
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5962.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5964.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
新規定有強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5964.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5966.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
要求美方在輸出前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5966.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5968.94 |
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要在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5968.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5970.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
發芽要塗一個發芽抑制劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5970.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5972.94 |
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叫做克普芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5972.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5974.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
要再塗一個發芽抑制劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5976.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5978.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
克普芬是好東西嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5978.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5980.15 |
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看起來他可以抑制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5980.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
馬鈴薯不要太快發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5984.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
但是塗了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5985.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5987.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
對身體克普芬 |
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5987.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5989.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
從國際的評估標準我看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5989.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5991.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
他對於造成身體的內分泌干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5991.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5993.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
還有輕人代謝致癌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5993.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5995.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
會有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5995.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5997.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
所以這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5997.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5999.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
塗了這個事情 |
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5999.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6001.57 |
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抑制他發芽但是塗了之後 |
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6001.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6003.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
對身體卻有傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6003.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6005.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
那我再回來看次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6005.75 |
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6007.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
克普芬我們現在在歐盟的標準 |
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6007.75 |
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6009.75 |
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是0.2ppm |
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6009.75 |
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6011.75 |
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那我們現在是30ppm |
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6011.75 |
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6013.75 |
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對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6013.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6015.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
我沒有講錯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6015.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6017.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
這個標準我沒有講錯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6017.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6019.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
歐盟對於克普芬的殘留是0.2ppm |
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6019.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6021.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
台灣目前對克普芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6021.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6023.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
其他個我都是30 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6023.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
我講的標準沒有錯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
我沒有亂講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6029.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
我們台灣的殘留是0.2ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6029.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6031.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
台灣目前對克普芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6031.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6033.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
其他個我都是30 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6033.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6035.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
我沒有亂講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6035.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6037.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
歐盟對於克普芬的殘留允許值是0.2ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6037.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6039.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
歐盟對於克普芬的殘留允許值是0.2ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6039.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6041.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我們台灣目前允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6041.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6043.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
這個殘留值是30ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6043.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6045.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6045.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6047.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
除了一個輪回減之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6047.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6049.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
我們現在要求美方禁止了馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6049.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6051.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
要塗克普芬這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6051.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6053.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
但是我們卻高於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6053.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6055.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
歐盟的這個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6055.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6057.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
是150倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6057.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6059.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
這個150倍對我們身體的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6059.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6061.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
是造成內分泌的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6061.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6063.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
還有包括致癌的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6063.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
這個我覺得是你們要去思考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
那我現在再請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
就是說包括克普芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
還有包括克普芬產生的代謝物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
三立本胺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
克普芬因為產生三立本胺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
我們未來有沒有抽檢的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
除了大家說看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
發芽的部分其實看不到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
是另外一個對我們身體的影優 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
這是我擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
那我們到底有沒有抽檢的數據跟抽檢率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
有沒有設定這個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6091.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6090.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6092.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
有這個都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6092.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6094.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
那鮑委員這個其實都107年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6094.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
訂下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6098.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
雖然歐盟是002 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6098.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6100.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
但是美國的產生是30% |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6100.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6102.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
我們現在大量進口美國的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6102.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
因為臺美貿易的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6106.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
我也不反對但是國安的施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6106.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6108.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
我是要把關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6108.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
不管你是什麼時候訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6112.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
我覺得國安不能夠忍受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6112.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6114.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
現在我們對於克普芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6114.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6116.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
包括三立本胺的產生值超過歐盟的150倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6116.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
這是我要提醒你的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
不要不要各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
這是跟美國Codex一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
但是對歐盟卻高於150倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
我相信對國人來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
食安過去蔡政府是5個洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
現在在內政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
變成7個洞10個洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
我相信是國人不能夠接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
大家國人對於喜歡吃薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
吃馬鈴薯片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
那原來大家都特別是年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6142.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
很喜歡吃這個對身體是長遠的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6142.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6144.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
這也是我站在監督的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6144.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
署長我要提醒的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
你們回去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
國人不能接受你們要開放這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6152.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
對於產量值的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6152.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6154.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
要不要再嚴格把關比照歐盟的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6154.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6156.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
是我要提醒的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6156.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
我的時間到我先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6160.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
接下來請主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6160.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
主計長我最近我還是要關心一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6164.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
不是主計長對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6164.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6166.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
沈計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6165.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6167.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
我主計長來提問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6167.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6169.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
我留時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6169.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6171.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
最近台灣有幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6171.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6173.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
重大的公共工程的爆發的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6173.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6175.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
我在媒體上有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6175.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6177.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
包括第一件是移民署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6177.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6179.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
防彈背心採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6179.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6181.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
第二個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6181.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6183.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
我們包括月初我在媒體上看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6183.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6185.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
是七街碼頭城鄉工程案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6185.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6187.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
這些連鎮署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6187.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6189.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
現在已經接獲已經介入調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6189.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6191.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
包括在媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6191.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6193.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
看到的相關的一些事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6193.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6195.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
我們沈計處也會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6195.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6197.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
也介入調查也會不會進一步做了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6197.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6199.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6199.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6201.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
因為剛剛講的防彈背心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6201.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6203.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
是我們沈計部查出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6203.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6205.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
好主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6205.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6207.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
第一個案子是因為採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6207.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6209.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
偽劣品萌換 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6209.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
是一個重大的工程的弊端 |
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6211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
另外一個是重大工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6215.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
異地施作看起來好像圖利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6215.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
包含工程延檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
共同的問題都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
履約審查跟監督的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
機制失靈了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6225.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
工程還在進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6225.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6227.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
我不希望每一次都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6227.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6229.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
沈計處在事後我們才發現問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6229.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6231.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6231.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6233.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
執行契約的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6233.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6235.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
我們如果能夠發現問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6235.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6237.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
當然是更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6237.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6239.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
所以目前包括我們七街的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6239.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6241.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
我剛剛指的第二項是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6241.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6243.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
255億的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6243.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6245.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
港澳公司表示施工的計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6245.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6247.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
包括監造審定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6247.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6249.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
包括變更施作的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6249.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6251.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
會不會影響招標的條件跟公正性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6251.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6253.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
不是港澳公司說了算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6253.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6255.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
我要提醒就是說我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6255.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6257.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
包括防彈背心案也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6257.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6259.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
就是說都是事後我們才發現問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6259.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6261.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
所以我覺得我們勢必要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6262.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
更有想辦法或用不同的一些工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6268.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
輔助工具或者用不同的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6268.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6270.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
去對於正在進行招標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6270.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
相關的案子不定時的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
做更多的抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6276.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
通常來說對於採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6276.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
一些項目包括重大工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
我覺得有沒有涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6282.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
契約條件實質的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6282.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
變更內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6286.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
實質的條件變更內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6286.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
我覺得我們也應該要有更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
一些啟動的專案調查機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6292.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
列入我們平常在重點審查的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6295.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6299.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
這個七階總經費高達950億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6299.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6301.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
所以不容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6301.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6303.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
他讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6303.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6305.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
這每塊錢都是明指明高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6305.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6307.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
我們不要失誤才發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6307.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6309.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
所以我們會確切注意這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6309.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6311.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
失誤才發現罰款不是我們的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6311.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6313.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6313.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6315.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
我要提醒我們最後一張圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6315.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6317.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
那個我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6317.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
機關的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6319.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6321.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
每一年我看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6321.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
有七成好像改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6323.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
還有三成韌帶改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6325.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6327.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
我覺得這個三成的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6327.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6329.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
25%韌帶改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6329.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6331.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6331.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6333.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
怎麼樣有更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6333.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6335.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
工具跟牙齒讓我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6335.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6337.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
審計處對於各單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6338.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
韌帶改善的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
比例應該逐年降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
想辦法了不然我給你人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
對不對我們去年我們都給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6348.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
一個副主計長給你人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6348.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6350.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
地方也增加人我都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6350.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6352.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
我們的主計單位審計單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6352.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6354.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
可以發揮的更好包括我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6354.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6356.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
電腦輔助相關科技AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6356.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6358.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
輔助工具可以做更多的查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6358.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6360.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
這個比例我希望都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6360.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6362.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
降低可以抓出來然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6362.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6364.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
改善我們現在各單位在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6364.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6366.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
的相關的業務跟招標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6366.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6368.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
項目可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6368.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6370.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
我們都會這一種沒有改善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6370.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
我們都會追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6374.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
再來這些沒改善的大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6374.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6376.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
都受制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6376.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6378.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
要求而且另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6378.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6380.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
就不改善明年主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6380.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6382.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
那邊那個預算項目就給他刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6382.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6384.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
甚至降低就處罰的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6384.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6386.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
通知相關單位像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6386.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6388.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
這種的會一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6388.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6390.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
堅持不改善主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6390.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6392.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
相關單位有問題的不改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6392.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6394.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
就給他明年預算就給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6394.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6396.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
少一點啊對不對多的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6396.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6398.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
給其他表現好的單位啊不然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6398.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6400.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
被審計到有問題的不改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6400.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6402.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
預算來這樣給他這審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6402.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6404.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
處在跟不在沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6404.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6406.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
對不對主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6406.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6408.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
點頭了我們明年我們會繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6408.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6410.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
追好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6418.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6420.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
接下來請類世保委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6425.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6427.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6427.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6429.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6429.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6431.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6430.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6432.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
農業部的市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6434.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6436.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
胡政次請胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6436.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6438.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
外福部的莊長次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6440.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
財政部的阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6444.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
三位長官一起好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
好委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6449.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6451.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
我要請教農業部外福部長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6451.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6453.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
這個很簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6453.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6455.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
就是一個問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6455.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6457.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
行政院長說進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6457.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6459.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
馬鈴薯要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6459.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6461.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
足科檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6461.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6463.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
做得到做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6464.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6466.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
加工廠裡面或者在紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6466.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6468.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
就是配合檢疫的指定加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6468.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6470.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
事實上是可以做得到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6471.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6473.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6473.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6475.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
邊境的話我們沒有百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6475.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6477.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
邊境做不到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6477.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6479.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
那個外福部的莊次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6481.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6483.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
做得到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6483.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6485.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
依照規定我們是抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6485.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6487.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
2%2%4% |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6487.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
如果不拿可全部退 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
或者銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
來阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6495.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6497.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
請問你海關邊境進來的有多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6497.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6499.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
海關多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6499.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6501.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
可以檢驗馬鈴薯的多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6501.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6503.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
人數是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6503.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6505.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
我們沒有專門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6505.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6507.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
為這個設定一個專門的團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6507.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6509.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
我說知道80幾個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6509.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
你們做得到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
足科這樣檢驗做得到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6515.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
全部我們加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6515.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6517.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
就是在運用人力大概100多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6517.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6519.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6519.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
這個你知道進來又幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
來農業部的長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6526.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6528.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
進來一批都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6528.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6530.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
起課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6529.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6531.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
最近進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6531.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6533.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
現在一年的話是27000噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6533.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6535.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
幾顆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6535.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6537.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
幾顆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6537.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
一顆大概300公克 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6541.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
一櫃的話25公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6541.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
25公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6543.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6545.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
進口的量喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6545.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6547.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
1萬噸的話是3333萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6547.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6549.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
3300多萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6549.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6553.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
對2.7萬噸的話將近1億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6553.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6555.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
1億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6555.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6557.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
不止1億顆喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6557.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6559.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
算起來快5億顆喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6559.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6561.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
1億啦大概1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6561.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6563.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
1億顆你每個都計算不到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6563.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6565.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
因為院長的意思是在加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6565.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
是足批 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6569.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
足櫃足科 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6569.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6571.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
那個是在加工廠裡面我們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6571.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6573.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
他講的是因為他給人家感覺是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6573.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6575.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
邊境管理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6575.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6577.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
邊境的話我們如果驗到不行就整櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6577.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6579.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
整櫃就退了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6579.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6581.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
就很明顯的他這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6581.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6583.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
不知道腦子發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6583.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6585.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
說可以足科去檢驗了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6585.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6587.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
然後可以的壞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6587.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6589.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
就把它退掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6589.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6591.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
哪裡有這樣子是整壁退啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6591.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
對啊現在就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6595.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
要整壁退啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6595.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6597.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
整壁退啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6597.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6599.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
人民的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6599.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6603.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
遠高於七沒有任何的政治利益可以來交換啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6603.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6605.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
這個請兩位長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6605.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
要把握這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6607.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
這個毛泳成隊等於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6611.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
農業部跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6611.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6613.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
打臉行政院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6613.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
的講法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6617.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
好兩位請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
我請到財政部的次長啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6618.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6620.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
男次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6620.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6622.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6621.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6623.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
這個現在又中東戰火 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6623.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6625.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
這個每天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6625.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
一天數變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6627.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
到底是要停火不停火 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6629.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
要停止封鎖不停止封鎖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6631.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
不知道變化太大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6633.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6635.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
所以就有人想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6635.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
今年的報稅能不能夠延後一個月報稅可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6639.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6641.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
我們去年是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6643.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
美國宣布我們有一個對人關稅30% |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
32% |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6649.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
所以那時候為了考慮到民間的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6651.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
所以我們是有展延一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6653.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
但是今年到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
我們現在股市已經上了3萬7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6661.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
3萬7所以整個來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6661.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6663.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
這個股市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6663.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6665.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
非常的穩健 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6665.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
所以目前是沒有這樣的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6667.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6669.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
沒有這樣的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6669.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
去想一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6671.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
過兩天你可能就轉彎喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
過兩天可能就轉彎喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
總之請人家一問的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6677.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
院長答應你就乖乖答應喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6679.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
請你明天下午喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
你是管這個國庫的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6687.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
財政部這次取得國票的經營權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6687.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6691.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
老實講這是一個全世界都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6692.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6694.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
公轉民啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6694.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6696.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
沒有民轉公啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6696.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6698.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
這是開世界潮流的倒車啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6699.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
這樣一個別被人閉嘴的光谷黃酷喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6704.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6706.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
我那意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6706.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
這次是第九家的光谷黃酷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6708.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
我們現在八家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6710.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6712.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
你回答是不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6714.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6716.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
目前當然如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6716.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
因為還沒改選完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6720.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
改選完以後要看改選出來的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6720.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6722.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
這麼小的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6724.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6726.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
這麼小的一個國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6727.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6729.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
你為什麼變他只有一個原因喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6729.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6731.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
我才猜了只有一個理由嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6732.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6734.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
你要推動公共病嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6734.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6738.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
就以後他要病到我的公股銀行裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6738.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6741.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
因為現在民間銀行的金控越來越大越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6741.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6743.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
我也要有競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6743.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6745.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
所以我想辦法為了提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6745.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
我的公股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
翻公股的競爭力才有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
不然的話我實在想不出道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
為什麼要推這個東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6754.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
其實跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6754.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6756.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
其實最主要是國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6756.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
那麼這個二十幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
內鬥不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6762.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6761.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6763.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
內鬥跟你有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6763.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6765.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
內鬥的事情跟你有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6765.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6767.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
公股的翻公股一直都在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6767.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6769.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
可是呢一直沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6769.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6771.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
解決這方面的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6771.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6773.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
內鬥又不斷內鬥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6773.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6775.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
真空袋咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6774.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6776.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
內鬥又多咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6776.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6778.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
好幾家都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6778.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6780.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
你要講真話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6780.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6782.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
市長你再講真話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6782.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6784.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我們這個是為了要整頓國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6784.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6786.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
整頓國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6786.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6788.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
你怎麼可以這個長臂拐蝦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6788.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6790.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
你管到民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6790.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6792.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
這個全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6793.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
自從蘇聯解體以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6797.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
全世界就一股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6797.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6799.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
剛變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6800.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6802.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
最少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6802.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6804.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
全世界都是民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6804.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6806.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
光古的韓國都變成民族化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6806.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6808.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6808.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6810.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
不是像你現在是開倒車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6810.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
所以只有一個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6814.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
我猜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6814.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6816.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
你準備要推動進一步的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6816.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6818.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6818.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6820.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
目前是沒有這樣的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6820.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6822.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6822.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6824.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
我現在跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6824.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6826.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
我們現在會介入這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6826.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6828.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
因為老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6828.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6830.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
國票金控是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6830.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6832.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
我們現在所有金控裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6832.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6834.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
是最 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6834.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6836.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
最小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6836.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6838.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
管到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6838.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6840.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6840.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6842.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
市長你今天能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6842.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6844.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
言不由衷啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6844.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6846.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
我這個沒有時間問你了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6846.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6848.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
現在是好多問題在提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6848.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
今天叫言不由衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6852.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
滿口胡話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6852.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6854.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
請你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6854.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6856.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
我們請一下陳主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6855.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6857.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
請一下陳主席長跟沈機長一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6860.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
沈機長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6862.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6864.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6865.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6867.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6867.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6869.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6869.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6871.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
2031年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6871.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6873.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
所以我們人均GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6873.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6875.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
要高出日本韓國1萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6875.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6877.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
我們的主計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6877.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6879.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
總數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6879.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6881.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
我們現在平均薪資48000 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6883.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
陳主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6885.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6887.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6886.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6888.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
48000喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6888.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6890.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
平均是48000 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6890.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6892.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
沒有人比你上的領不到平均薪資啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6893.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
現在緊急日都集中在AI概念股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6895.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
如果今天我們股票說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6899.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
剛才講了財政部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6901.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
漲很熱3萬7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
3萬8如果把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6905.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
台積電抽掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6907.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
有人給他算你算啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6909.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6911.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
如果把台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6911.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6913.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
今天沒有台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6913.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6915.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
我們待會兒去聊完你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6914.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6916.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
我們就聊完你先聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6916.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6918.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
我們就聊完你先聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6918.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6920.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
所以這是道地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6920.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6922.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
台灣非常嚴重的經濟荷蘭病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
我查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6925.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
我們現在今年1月到3月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
上市股票漲幅大於高盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
大盤的211加11%左右 |
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6931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
上櫃116加8.33左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
上市櫃公司總共有1933加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
換言之現在台灣老百姓是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6939.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
只要你的資金都沒有去買股票的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6949.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6951.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
你就相對吃屁股了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6952.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
如果沒有買到AI概念股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6956.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
啊你也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6956.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6958.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
就變這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6958.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6960.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
所以我們是嚴重的扭曲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6960.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6962.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
哇好看非常好看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6962.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6964.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
這個叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6963.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6965.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
賺的股賺的指數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6965.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6967.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
賠的股價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
沒有賺錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6972.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
主計長我們再看下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6972.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6974.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
我再給主計長看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
有沒有機構發布啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
所有民經濟信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
經濟展望下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
股市投資下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
37%認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
今年的GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6988.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
超過7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6992.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
因為你講7點主計長說過7點多趴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6992.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
超過7%的37%不剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6996.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
60%認為CPI |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6996.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
要超過2% |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7000.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6999.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7001.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
是老百姓不配人犧牲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7002.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7004.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
不到世聲的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7004.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7006.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
認同你的講法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7006.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7008.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
我們今年GDP會高於7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7008.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7010.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
即便高於7% |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7010.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7012.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
也都是AI概念股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7012.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7014.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
台積電如果抽掉只剩2萬億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7014.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7016.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
你要不要回一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7016.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
就是AI的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7020.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
的確占重要的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7020.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7022.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
但是其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7022.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7024.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
也帶動其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7024.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7026.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
產業的產業的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7026.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7028.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
所以它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7028.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7030.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
股裝上游的原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7030.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7032.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
擴充產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7032.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7034.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
廠房 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7034.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7036.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
增添設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7036.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7038.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
帶動建材 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7038.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7040.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
基礎這些的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7040.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7042.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
所以它不是只有AI概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7042.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
你就可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
你這個大盤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7048.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
就是台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7048.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
撐起來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
大一大盤的只有11% |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7054.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
上位的大一大盤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7054.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7056.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
只有8.38% |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7056.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
加起來不到兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7060.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
我們沒有所謂荷蘭病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7060.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7062.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
因為荷蘭病它只是集中一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7062.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
產業但是我們其實相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7066.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
產業其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7066.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7068.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
傳統產業也有上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7068.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
只是它上升的幅度沒有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
的一個那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7074.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
所以這個部分我們也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7074.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7076.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
我都想跟你講數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7076.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7078.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
主席長有實際的信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7078.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7080.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
那神經常最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7081.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7083.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
你有決定過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7083.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
我要對台北市政府講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7087.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
回來吹了水庫長期被台電壓榨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7090.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7092.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
他毀了整個過去四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7092.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
一度電賣給台電1.5到2塊錢左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7097.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
光電4塊到5塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
風電有時候高達7塊錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7102.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7104.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7103.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7105.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
他賣了兩億度電了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7105.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7107.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
所以等於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7107.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7109.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
我們一年來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7109.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7111.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
台北市政府就被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7111.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
台電坑了四億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7115.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
檢察院就政公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7118.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
你們就這時候收購匯率偏低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7118.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7120.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
現在還偏低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7120.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
請問檢察院對這事情怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7123.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7125.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
因為這個是綠電喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7125.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7127.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
因為他水力發電是綠電 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7127.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
綠電光電4到5塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7131.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
風電有時候高達7塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7131.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7133.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
5到7塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7133.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7135.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
但是為什麼匯率水庫就給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7135.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7137.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
收一塊半到兩塊錢而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7137.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7139.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
過去四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7139.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7141.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
這一個部分我們是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7141.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7143.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
省計部去查的有這樣的一個現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7143.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7145.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
就我們後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7145.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7147.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
檢察院在看我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7147.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7149.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
省計報告的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7149.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7151.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
他會把這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7151.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7153.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
他們再調查一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7153.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7155.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
所以他們提出糾正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7155.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7157.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7157.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7159.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
台電沒有給錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7159.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7161.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
我們會繼續追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7161.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7163.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
台電請拿來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7163.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7165.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
我們會追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7165.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7167.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
怎麼樣是一個合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7167.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
處理的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7171.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
把一個事情把它合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7171.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7173.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
台電加價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7173.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7175.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
不追水庫加價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7175.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7177.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
這個是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7177.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7181.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
現在說什麼高德地圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7181.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7183.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
在台灣耗用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7183.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7185.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
它就是一個app |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
裡面就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
讓侯力的描述 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
結果說這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
有治安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
可能要什麼一個非侯供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
我就問你請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7199.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
非侯供應鏈是不是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7203.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
省計部的省計範圍裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7203.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7205.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
要查所有的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7205.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7207.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
通通不可以沾到大陸一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7207.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7209.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7209.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
我們要看國家的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7211.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
國家的規定如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7213.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
都是說不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
為什麼規定不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
是不是合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
我們也會進行了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7223.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7223.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7225.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
這是我們省計在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7225.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7227.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
省計不容易做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7227.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7229.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
舉例我們要發展無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7229.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7231.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
無人機全世界最大占有力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7231.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7233.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
是大中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7233.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7235.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
70% |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7235.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7237.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
關鍵民主建議來自於中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7238.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7240.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
所以你阿拉布阿拉布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7240.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7242.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
你看剛才像高德地圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7243.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7245.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
這個我們不是跟大陸買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7245.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7247.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
是跟荷蘭買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7247.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7249.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
可是它裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7249.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7251.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
有一點東西是大陸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7251.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7253.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
就變成無人機都會倒掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
所以這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
它任何的規定我們會注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
它規定的造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7262.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
是不是普遍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7262.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7264.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
我們會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7264.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7266.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
我們軍人穿的衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7266.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
說不定裡面有大陸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
所以我們也在查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
你的駝標吸珠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
是怎麼規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7276.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
這個要我們會提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7276.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7278.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
好好去落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7278.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7280.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
如果做不到也要讓行政部門知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7280.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7282.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
這個其實不容易做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7282.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7284.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7284.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7286.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
後續的再請用書面回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7286.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7288.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
接下來我請第六位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7288.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
林大化委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7295.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7297.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
有請主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7303.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7305.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
好本席要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
針對整個國營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
特別是台水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
來就叫我們主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
我認為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
台電糖水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
台電中油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
它的財務好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
不好 那你們怎麼就呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7324.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7326.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
那你們無非 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7326.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7328.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
第一個呢就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7328.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7330.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
專案特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7330.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
那第二個呢我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
這個超周年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7336.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
這個稅收超徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7336.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7338.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
你全額的撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7338.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7340.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
那現在呢願意讓中油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7340.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7342.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
跟台電差別匯率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7344.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
中油它可以有這個浮動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7344.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7346.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
油價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7346.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
台電呢它也可以有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7350.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
離封跟尖封 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7350.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
的一個差別電價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7354.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
那台水呢有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7354.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7356.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
有沒有針對讓它針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7356.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7358.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
高耗水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7358.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7360.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
高用水的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7360.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7362.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
極高用水的用戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7362.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7364.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
給予他課這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7364.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7366.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
給予他較高的這個匯率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7366.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7368.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
的匯率的這個工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7368.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7370.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7371.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7373.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
北水有 台水就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7373.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
現在北水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
台水呢你們有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
在王部長任內有開個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
開徵一個叫做耗水費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
誰收啊 水利署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
收 去充實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
他的水資的作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
所以台水還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
所以他既然不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
你要求他開源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
那節流 他完全都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
辦法有任何的開源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
的空間 那節流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
他只有負債 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
好 所以我們來看你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
又需要這講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
電網韌性 幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
的颱風水也太重要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
所以也發起了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
水韌性 所以積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7415.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
這個降落八年八百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7415.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
八年八百零八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7419.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
的降落計畫 本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7419.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
就用這個公共計畫來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7423.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
台水長年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7423.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7425.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
負擔公共建設當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7425.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7427.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
所造成的財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7427.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7429.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
黑洞 好 我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7429.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7431.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
台水面臨結構性的夾殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7431.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
他雙重的重壓 國營事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7435.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
就是台水配合國家政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7435.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7437.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
跟自身財務永續之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7437.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7439.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
遭受劇烈的矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7439.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7441.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
既要配合政策 要建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7441.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7443.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
水韌性的社會安全網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7443.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7445.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
要減碳這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7445.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7447.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
這個國家級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7447.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7449.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
國際級的這樣的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7449.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7451.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
那呢 但是他面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7451.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7453.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
公共工程當中 他的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7453.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7455.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
通膨 包括現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7455.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7457.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
從此今年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7457.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7459.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
我們的漏水工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7459.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7461.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
已經進入到深水區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7461.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7463.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
什麼意思 工程都做完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7463.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7465.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
現在就比較困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7465.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7467.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
地質非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7467.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7469.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
崎嶇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7469.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7471.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
路段崎嶇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7471.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
地質非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7475.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
兼顧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7475.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7477.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
那特別這個要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7477.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7479.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
所以已經進入到深水區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7479.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7481.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7481.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7483.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
他的費用 等一下我也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7483.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
提出來 所以就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
這個雙重壓力之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7489.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
入口又封死他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7489.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7491.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
水價長達30年未調整的將軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7491.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7493.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
聽好 本席不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7493.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7495.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
支持漲水價 我身為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7495.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7497.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
國會議員 身為民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7497.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7499.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
代表 這個是政治議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7499.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7501.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
就民生的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7501.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7503.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
就工業的 跟民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7503.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7505.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
農業用水的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7505.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7507.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
包括工業用水的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7507.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7509.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
我都在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7509.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7511.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
應該要考慮相關的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7511.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7513.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
我不是鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7513.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7515.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
漲水價 但至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7515.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7517.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
本席倡議的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7517.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7519.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
高耗水的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7520.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7522.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
高耗水的企業 台積電你要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7522.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7524.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
要不要課啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7524.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7526.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
課啊 你知道你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7526.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7528.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
給他的耗水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7528.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7530.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
只佔他 如果你課增他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7530.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7532.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
比照北水的耗水率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7532.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7534.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
那個幾乎佔了他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7534.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7536.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
百分之一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7535.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7537.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
整個成本啊 感覺好像幾百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7537.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7539.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
在他整個營收幾兆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7539.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
那個幾乎是幾百分之幾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7541.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7543.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
的成本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7543.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
你不讓台水去課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7545.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7547.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
好 出口又封死他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7547.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7549.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
所以現在808億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7549.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7551.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
公共預算降落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7551.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7553.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
那其中634億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7553.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7555.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
固定資產成本 是誰在乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7555.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
台水在乎 喪失自我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7559.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
修復的財務彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7559.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7561.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
所以本席要點出的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7561.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7563.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
台水的財務破洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7563.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7565.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
並非源於管理不善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7565.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
而是被政策物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
雙向的擠壓 而剝奪了他定價權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7571.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
的必然結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7571.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7573.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
好 我看主計總處啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7573.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7575.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
您到底呢 是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7575.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
這個裝睡的人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
叫不醒呢 你是沒看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
這樣的計畫的這個預算幻象嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
你們給他的808億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
給他20億的增資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
四年80億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
每年20億的增資喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
那我們看喔 114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
去年這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
省計部給他的決算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
虧損這個49.74億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
今年行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
預算稅前虧損 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
竟然行政院自己說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
你預估會虧多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
今年會虧69.15億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7609.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
政府核定的降落計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
增資每年給他20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
這誰都看得懂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
你今年預計他會虧69.15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
你今年80億分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
四年給 要求他增資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
只給他20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7624.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
會虧69.15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7626.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
你只給他20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7628.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7630.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
那又不給他的出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7630.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
讓他針對高用水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7632.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
用戶去收 也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
你們也不給他財務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
專案的預算的這個年度預算給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7638.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
也不給 然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7640.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
這個超收的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7642.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
也不全額撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7644.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
好 那這個增資啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7646.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
這個還是有貓膩的 什麼貓膩在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7648.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
這個增資啊 台水需負擔什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7650.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7652.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
擇舊跟攤提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7652.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7654.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
所以你們給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7654.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
支持他去做肉水工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7656.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7658.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
你們都給得不爽快啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
好 那核心是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
本席要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7662.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7664.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
四年總計80億的增資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7664.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7666.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
這是你們給他的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7666.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7668.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
連這個彌補單年度的虧損 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7668.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7670.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
都遠遠不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7670.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7672.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
更緩論支撐未來高達808億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7672.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7674.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
降落計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7674.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7676.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
這是在推動建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7676.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7678.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
還是看著國營事業慢性破產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7678.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
什麼叫做慢性破產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
除了808億他一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
做越多虧對國之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7686.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
他現在負債多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7686.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7688.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
1000億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7688.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7690.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這1000億怎麼來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7690.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7692.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
都是這樣來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7692.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7694.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
都是推動公共建設而來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7694.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7696.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
難道是董事長總經理跟所有主管把錢吃掉了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7696.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7698.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
他們金魚不散嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7698.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7700.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
沒有耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7700.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7702.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
現在背負的1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7702.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7704.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
跟銀行借錢來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7704.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7706.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
來辦這個降落 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7706.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7708.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
從全部都借錢耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7708.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7710.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
好我說你們還是沒看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7710.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7712.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
這個假性資產的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7712.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7714.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
說好了8084投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7714.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
這個一般商業的基礎回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
的回收期是10到15年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7720.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
那其實這個808億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7720.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7722.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
就商業的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7722.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7724.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
他的內部報酬率是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7725.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7727.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
負2.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7727.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7729.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
表示絕對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7729.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7731.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
做越多虧越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7731.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7733.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
然後回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7733.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7735.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
我們一定要給他算回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7735.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7737.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
因為他有很大的社會外部效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7737.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
給他算到外部會社效益之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7741.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
他也等42年回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7741.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7743.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
我本來一般講10到15年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7743.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7745.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
就回收了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7745.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7747.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
因為你說要他自負盈虧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7747.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7749.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
結果勉強的把社會公益性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7749.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7751.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
算進去也要42年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7751.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7753.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
好這個社會公益性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7753.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7755.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
我們強化社會的水潤性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7755.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7757.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
我們減碳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7757.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7759.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
這不就是典型的公共建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7760.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7762.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
的現值嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7762.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7764.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
當然要由國家專案預算全額支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7764.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7766.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
而非迫使國營 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7766.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7768.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
事業來負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7768.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7770.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
然後來看審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7770.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7772.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
這個審計部也非常的有趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7772.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7774.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
審計長這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7774.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7776.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
您就看一下等一下你再來回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7776.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7778.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
你們說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7778.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7780.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
先看到第六頁你們很有趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7780.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
你們這個台水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
把你們的審計部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
跟我們立法院報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
好了這邊是112年的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
以研謀改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
或依改善措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
持續辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
你們羅列的五項112年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
其中的第四項說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
台水你有問題為配合國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
經濟建設及永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
每年投入巨額資金辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
重大新建計畫為部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
計畫工程進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
及完成後經濟效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
未達預期目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7814.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
與你研謀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7814.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7816.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
善策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7816.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
請神仙來我都不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
哪一位神仙能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
能夠解決台水的這個負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7824.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
完全不給他出入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7824.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7826.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
這個也不給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7826.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7828.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
之後輩的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7828.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7830.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
只叫他你做你就賠吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7830.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
那你叫他怎麼援你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7832.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7834.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
那我們就以808億來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7835.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7837.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
剛才那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7837.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
對你投入背負這句 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
808億喔你是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
這個施工工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7845.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
本是標真的過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7845.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
台灣一公里的管線我只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7849.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
700萬今天因為勞力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7849.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7851.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
成本通膨包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7851.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
你經過的路段已經進入了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7855.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
這個降漏水的工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7855.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
的深水區所以你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
暴增你一公里的管線成本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7861.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
1000萬增幅40 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7861.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
百分之40工程效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7865.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
的銳減因為降漏困難度的越來越 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7865.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7867.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
現在每公里找回的漏水量大幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7867.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7869.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
減少了百分之50 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7869.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7871.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7871.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7873.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
審計不完你看到了說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7873.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7875.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
這種投入背負 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7876.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7878.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
效益減半的投資模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7878.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7880.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
但是呢他為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7880.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7882.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
公共利益的強行推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7882.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7884.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
讓國營事業獨自承攬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7884.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7886.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
暴增的單價跟遞減的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7886.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
效益將直接拖緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7890.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
其財務健康那我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7890.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
您的審計的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7894.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
有意義嗎言再把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7894.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7896.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
這句話我覺得講得真好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7896.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
言謀善策你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7900.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
善策誰能夠提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7900.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
好再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7904.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
我們這個政治口號我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7904.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
我們要政策目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7908.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
808開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7908.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
可以大家什麼都沒法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7912.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
123年我的漏水率要降到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7912.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7914.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
百分之十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7914.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
這個微幅的降幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
從113年的百分之11.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7920.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
要經過8年之後降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7920.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
百分之2.22的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7922.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
漏水率巨大的代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7924.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
是台水必須8年內燒掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7926.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
808億再加上他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7928.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
1000億的負債這種比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7930.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
原則私人投入808億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7932.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
收取的百分之2.21的降幅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7934.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7936.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
這次是違背了比例原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7936.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7938.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
政府還為了達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7938.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7940.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
政治口號而不惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7940.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
犧牲國營事業的存續嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7942.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7944.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
好但是我要講本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7944.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7946.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
是支持808億的你不要以為我不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7946.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
因為這808億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7950.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
那個離遠清楚的結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7950.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7952.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
這2.22億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
換算的結果是每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7956.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
省5910萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7958.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7962.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
每年省5910萬噸的水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7962.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
我要不要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7964.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
他相當於曾文水庫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7966.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
百分之11到12的有效容量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7968.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7970.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
他相當於家庭用水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7970.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
如果一個家庭的平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7972.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
用水一噸是1000公升的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7976.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7976.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
每年的這個省水率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
5910噸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
這個每年的省水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
可以讓16萬個家庭不間斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7986.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
使用整整一整年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7986.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
好來看台北市淹沒城市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
這樣每年省下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
5910萬噸的水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
如果鋪在台北市的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7996.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
可以淹沒全台北約21.8公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7996.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那要不要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8000.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8002.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
當然要做成本與效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8002.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8004.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
的挫折的矩陣誰獲利誰買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8004.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
本席再整理一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
台水公司跟中央政府跟社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
台水市承擔了808億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
巨額負債 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8014.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
跟其中的630億的固定資本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8014.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
中央政府是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
預算赤字成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8020.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
隱藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8020.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
本來這808億是你要你的負債的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
你把它叫台水收了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
你成功你國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
的預算赤字成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8030.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
的隱藏零負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8030.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
你社會的效益台水是沒有現金流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
回報剛才我講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8036.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
但是中央政府跟全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8036.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
有抗旱的韌性跟減碳紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8038.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
投資效益它承受了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8040.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
-2027的虧損刑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8042.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
專案42年無法回本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8046.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
中央政府跟社會是無需 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8046.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8048.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
承擔任何的投資風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8048.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8050.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
政治紅利是什麼台水你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8050.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8052.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
虧損啊這個經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8052.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8054.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
不善啊結果政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8054.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8056.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
達到120年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8056.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8058.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
的漏水率的降至 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8058.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8060.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
10%好這一頁台水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8060.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
的不可能三角我再次的突顯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8064.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
營收成本的天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8064.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8066.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
跟資本支出的失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8066.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8068.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
跟政治強制的綁架 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8068.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8070.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
最後來我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8070.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
要求社會韌性不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
由國營事業獨自舉債對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
主計總是跟整計總 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8076.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
跟審計部的最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8080.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
我本席的結問台水的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8080.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8082.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
縮寫講得很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8082.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
這一筆八年八百億要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8084.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
符合你中央政府的降水率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8088.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
降到10%去在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8088.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
公司也在拼平井台水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8092.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
說了我這個投資我把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8092.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8094.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
回收的我邊際 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8094.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
效益是會遞減的我虧損會持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
擴大的好台灣是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8100.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
降水豐沛卻是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8100.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
會缺水的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8104.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
社會的水冷氣的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8104.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
的必要好為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
台電的強化電網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
韌性你政府可以編 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
預算十年五千六百四十五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
去支持他的電網 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
我們人民不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
你憑什麼要水韌性的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8120.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
百分百讓台水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8120.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
獨自的來收買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8124.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
這個主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8124.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8126.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
只要你一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8125.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8127.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
計畫該做全民受益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8127.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
政府買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
如果降落是國家級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
氣候防禦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
工程的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
那就應該要讓中央專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
預算怎麼支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
已經超過質詢五分鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
你認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
中央專案預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
支持台水808的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8149.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
用中央專案預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8149.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
去解決他一千億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
好後續請又順便回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8157.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
另外原因已經超過五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
要不要研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
那個你用書面回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我們用書面回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
我們也會請經濟部來做整個一個研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8168.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
好謝謝主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8168.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
來我們結束林大化委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8172.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
你們企業自負盈虧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8172.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
你的答案就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8176.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
他哪能夠自負盈虧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8176.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8178.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
好謝謝林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8178.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8180.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
我們等一下因為今天質詢時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8180.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
非常的長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8184.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
等一下在落後委員質詢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8184.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8186.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
我們休息五分鐘讓大家上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8186.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
請大家把握時間盡量在質詢之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8190.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
因為我們今天質詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8190.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8192.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
議題比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8192.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
專案報告時間比較長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8196.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
接下來請劉樹斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8207.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8213.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
好有請農業部次長跟衛福部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8213.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8215.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
來請衛福部次長農業部何政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8228.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8230.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8243.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
衛福部就做了很多的這樣子的一個修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
我覺得這是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
但是我們最重要是看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8251.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
為什麼當初會有這樣一個結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8251.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
第一個我們看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8255.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
1月21號的時候就有一個修正案的預告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8255.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
他是要調整美國產的交通農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
加工用的馬鈴薯的分流管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
本來應該是要60天的預告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
現在只有14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8265.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
那第二個本來2月6號正式公告之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8265.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8267.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
他刪除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8267.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8269.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
來發芽禁止書的這個底線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8269.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
都在放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8271.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8273.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
那就是邊境放行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8273.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8275.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
讓這個有發芽症狀的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8275.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8277.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
可能得以輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8277.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8279.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
那當然第三個我們看到是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8279.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8281.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
這個是特別是專用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8281.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
對加工用我們很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8283.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8285.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
但是這個加工用當中是有些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8285.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8287.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
就直接到的是那個加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8287.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8289.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
設備當中工廠當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8289.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8291.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
但是這個地方說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8291.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8293.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
如果都已經過了邊境這一關的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8293.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
進入到工廠去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
這部分檢疫的部分可以到工廠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8299.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
好那第二部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8299.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8301.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
就是還包括第三第四個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8302.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8304.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
我們的要求就是或是美印或美方的要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8304.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8306.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
他在輸入到台灣的之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8306.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8308.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
還必須要用發芽抑制劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8308.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8310.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
來去清洗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8310.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8312.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
是做這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8312.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8314.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
讓他可以不要再發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8314.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8316.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
等於說讓我們的民眾在介於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8316.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8318.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
他會發芽的會有到龍蝴蜆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8318.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8320.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
這樣子一個有毒性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8320.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8322.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
這種傷害之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8322.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8324.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
或者是說我們用一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8324.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
發芽抑制劑他可能會對我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8326.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8328.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
一個肝臟這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8328.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
會有這個傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
那第三部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8334.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
還比歐盟他現在有放寬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8334.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8336.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
是到0.2的PBM |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8336.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
可是現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8340.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
我們是30PBM |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8340.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8342.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
那這樣的一個差異性我就想問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8342.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8344.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
農業部跟房間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8344.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8346.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8346.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8348.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
你們在這個當初的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8348.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8350.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
你們是採取什麼樣的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8350.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8352.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
或是你們在參加當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8352.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8354.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
這個是根據這個理由上面很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8354.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8356.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
他是要根據是要因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8356.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8358.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
要這個我們台美的關稅協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8358.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
那這裡情況這樣想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8362.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
當初我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8362.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8366.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
你們有商量我們談判的這個協商過程嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8366.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8368.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
還有說你們是什麼樣的情況是因應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8368.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8370.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
這樣的台美是被告知的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8371.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8373.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
先問這兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8375.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8377.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
在農業部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8377.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
我們如果是先食用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
所有的規定沒有別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8382.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
那如果是加工用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
我現在就問加工嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
是 那加工用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
我們農業部的角色是三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8390.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
第一個我們先看有沒有帶土壤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8392.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
帶土壤那個必須要推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8394.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8396.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
第二個它有沒有八種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8396.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8398.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8397.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8399.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8408.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8410.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
我沒有參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8413.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8417.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
農業部其實我們另外有一位次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8417.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8419.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
因為他現在人出國我是代理他來備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8419.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8421.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
我不曉得他是不是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8421.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8423.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
好那衛福部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8423.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8425.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
莊次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8424.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
報告委員這個食安的議題的檢驗部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8426.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8428.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
我們一直都沒有變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8428.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8430.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
從107年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8430.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8432.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
所以驗的龍蝰檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8432.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
還有剛剛的那個藝芽器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8436.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
藝芽樹的部分都是依照當時的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8436.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8438.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
都沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8438.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8440.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8439.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8441.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
但是我的問題是在問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8441.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8443.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
你們當初衛福部有去參與到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8443.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8445.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
我們在台美關稅談判當中嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8446.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8448.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8448.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8450.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
我們沒有這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8450.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8452.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
發芽的部分不是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8452.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8454.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
沒有嘛結果全部都是因應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8454.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8456.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
你們事實上是要被事後通知的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8456.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8458.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
所以才趕著要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8458.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8460.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
1月21號可能有些結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8460.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
應該是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8462.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8464.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
這個整個內容沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8464.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8466.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
這個檢驗的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8466.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8468.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
對但是問題是因為這是農業部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8468.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8470.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
農業部他把這樣子一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8470.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8472.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
檢疫的條件把它放寬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8472.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8474.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8474.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8476.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
那這裡所造成的效果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8476.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8478.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
我在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8477.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8479.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
農業部你們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8479.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8481.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
應該說因為現在沒有人能夠證明說你們沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8481.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8483.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
可是就我們現在談判代表沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8483.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8485.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
這樣一個人在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8485.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8487.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
這就是顯示出來你們現在遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8487.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8489.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
這樣的問題的時候你們等於說是被事後告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8489.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8491.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
是以我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8491.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8493.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
要關稅的降免為代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8493.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8495.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
但是可是你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8495.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8497.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
要是我在想說如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8497.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8499.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
我們的這個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8499.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8501.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
沒有在現在4月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8501.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
包包出來是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8505.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
當然我也知道你剛剛有說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8505.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8507.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
要去加工的部分是7月才會進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8507.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8509.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
但是如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8509.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8511.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
他們進口進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8511.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8513.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
直接後來在防疫上面沒有知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8513.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8515.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
而且我們根本就是不太理解的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8515.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8517.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
到時候就是廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8517.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8519.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
這個進加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8519.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8521.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
有問題的可能有問題的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8521.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8523.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
就直接進入到加工廠去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8523.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8525.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
然後就直接被製造出來讓民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8525.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8527.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
去使用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8527.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8529.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8528.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8530.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
狀況是不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8530.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8532.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
會出現的是很有可能會出現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8533.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
所以這樣會說當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8535.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
我們的農業部還有幫我們衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
遇到這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
這樣的情況是不是根本就是沒有把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
我們的人民的健康都代價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
檢疫的條件沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
這個要跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
有有有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8554.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
檢疫的部分你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8554.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8558.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
已經允許有發芽症狀的馬鈴薯加工的進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8558.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8560.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
怎麼會沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8560.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8562.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
不是他那個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8562.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8564.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
本來是所有的加工也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8564.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8566.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
限時也好是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8566.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8568.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
違反三種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8568.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8570.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
一套標準在農業的部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8570.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8572.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
檢疫發現問題就馬上就退 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8572.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
我們現在是說你們日月部分是在說加工的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
直接還到農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8578.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
直接還到加工廠去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8578.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8580.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
好這個部分我看到你們的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8580.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
上面事實上沒辦法就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8584.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
就是不要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8584.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8586.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
因為我們現在看到你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8586.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8588.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
為什麼這裡這兩天的時候農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8588.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8590.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
跟衛福部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8590.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
官員一直出來在講說我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8594.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8594.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8596.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
總院長他也很清楚的說了我們都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8596.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8598.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
主項的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8598.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8600.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
整櫃都會去看這個部分就是在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8600.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8602.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
防洋補牢的動作嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8602.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8604.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
我就這樣子講他說這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8604.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
我想要像就是這個程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8608.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
的一個過程流程我希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8608.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8610.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
農業部跟尤其特別是指農業部要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8610.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8612.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
這個過程要跟來本席來做一個書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8612.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8614.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
報告可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
書面報告可以教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
我還是跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8618.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8620.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
發壓率我們最近這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8620.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
檢查都像去年只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8622.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8624.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
0.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8624.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8626.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
所以其實目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8626.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
我們是負責發壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
你發壓率很低是為什麼你加了抑菌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8632.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
氣啊抑菌氣下去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8632.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8634.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8634.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
所以我跟你講我們就不 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8636.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8638.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
我們就先講到這裡因為我有其他部分講但是我想我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8638.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8640.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
書面報告來呈現因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8640.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
這裡面有看到的整個政府團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8642.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8644.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
為了人民的健康的部分的把關事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8644.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
是不夠的好我們就現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8646.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8648.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8648.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
我們用書面報告給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8650.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8652.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
你們這樣講是不夠正確我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8652.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8654.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
請的是農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8654.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
只要討論的是農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
部在南投民間鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
的焚化爐的用地的這個問題上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8660.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
我們看到的是部長他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8662.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
在4月16號前幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8664.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8666.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
前他說了在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8666.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8668.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
民間鄉的這個焚化爐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8668.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
他這邊都是一個農業的特農地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
那他說呢他會到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8674.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
到16號為止他沒有受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8674.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
南投縣政府的農地變更申請喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
沒有喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
但是他是特定農業區喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8682.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
那我們現在看到往下看了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8682.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8684.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
繼續往下看可是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8684.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8686.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
在這個農業特定區當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8686.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8688.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
我們可以看到行政院在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8688.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8690.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
去年3月28號呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8690.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8692.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
就已經呢撥用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8692.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8694.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
這個農地的土地給南投縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8694.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
那我們繼續再往下看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
然後這部分當然是財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
財政部的這個附稅署的或是財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
署長也要請到上面來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8704.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
那我們繼續往下看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8704.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8706.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
財政部的次長請上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8706.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8708.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那我們看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8708.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8710.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
財政部的次長請穩次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8711.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8713.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
我們要能不能暫停一下時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8714.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8716.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
拜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8722.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8724.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
好次長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8724.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
好我們看到附稅署在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8728.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
去年的3月20幾號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8728.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
就已經給了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
那我們看到的是另外一個問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
我當然要請到是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8733.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8735.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8736.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8738.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
省紀部的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8738.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8740.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
陳部長請你上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8740.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8742.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
我現在講的是另外一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8742.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8744.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
南投縣的政府喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8747.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
部長上台喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8748.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8750.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
這個陳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8749.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8751.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
陳部長要跟你講喔就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8751.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
南投縣政府呢他用的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8755.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
專款專用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8755.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
環保基金呢來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8759.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
買了這個國土地國有的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8759.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8761.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
大概一萬一億元這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8761.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8763.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
那可能有違法之嫌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8763.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8765.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
這邊要跟大家講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8765.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8767.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
看到的是剛才農業部也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8767.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8769.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
部長說了他是農地農業專用地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8769.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8771.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
然後但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8771.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8773.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
國藝產署這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8773.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8775.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
就已經給了移的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8775.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8777.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
那這邊呢尤其在資金上面呢在買的這個地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8777.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
因為特定的環保基金呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
他事實上他並沒有用到是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8783.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
可以去買地他在政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8783.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8785.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
是可以在買地的部分確實出現過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8785.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8787.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
就是這邊要請到是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8787.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8789.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8789.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8791.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
陳部長你知道這件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8791.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8793.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8793.37 |
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8795.37 |
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那這部分你的看法是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8795.37 |
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8797.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
因為看起來有一些爭議 |
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8797.37 |
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8799.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8799.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8801.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
能不能買地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8801.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8803.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
他有一個收支把管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8803.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8805.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
應用辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8805.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8807.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
收支把管應用辦法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8807.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8809.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
是可以買設備但是立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8809.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8811.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
我們要去查他的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8811.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8813.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
說明能不能買土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8813.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8815.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
因為設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8815.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8817.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8817.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8819.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
一般在會計上是土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8819.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8821.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
是包括在裡面但是立法 |
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8821.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8823.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
因為很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8823.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
立一個法都會有立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8827.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
說明我們會整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8827.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8829.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
了解以後給委員一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8829.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
好可以那另外的農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
農業部次長你們的部長已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
說了是要農地農用這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
你們的看法是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8839.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
對因為特定農業區的話我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8839.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
在台灣有限的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
土地要作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
農用因為這個是非常好的一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
這個特農區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
你們會就是會堅持這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
情況嗎我們會但是因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
還沒有送過來我們不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8855.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
他們當時他們會做怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8855.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8857.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
的一個結論如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8857.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8859.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
送過來的話我們會站在基於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8859.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8861.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
保護農地的立場我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8861.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8863.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
希望這一塊地應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8863.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8865.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
用在農用上OK |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8865.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8867.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
好謝謝農業市長有這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8867.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8869.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
那其另外只是請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8869.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8871.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
陳部長留下來其他的就請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8871.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8873.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
最後一個部分就想要簡單的去回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8873.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8875.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
就是說我們看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8875.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8877.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
想要針對的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8877.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8879.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
樓園競速的做結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8879.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
好就是我以前就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8881.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8883.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
我們看到的是在審計部在130年決算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8883.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8885.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
報告當中提出了六項的這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8885.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8887.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
整體上面對總體所的分配的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8887.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8889.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
這個內容但是這地方我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8889.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8891.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
效果裡面尤其在財政就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8891.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8893.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
在這個薪資這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8893.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8895.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
它事實上97成還是低於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8895.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8897.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
員工的平均數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
的情形總之總共我本來有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8901.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
的部分要去講包括在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8901.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8903.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
的部分等等的那最後我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8903.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8905.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
就想說想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8905.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8907.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
針對這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8907.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8909.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
你們所看出的決算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8909.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8911.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
報告對行政院各部會裡面的這個民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8911.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8913.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
措施未達目標或者是財務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8913.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8915.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
維持上你們審計部做了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8915.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8917.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
有沒有給人家做一個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8917.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8919.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
一個時程建議那有沒有更強力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8919.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8921.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
苛責行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
貧富不經啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8925.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
看來A來A來很重要是不是國際的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8926.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8928.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
我們這個部分會美人茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8929.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8931.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
查到有一定的成效啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8931.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8933.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
才會結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8933.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8935.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
所以112宿我們還會繼續查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8935.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8937.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
包括改善測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8937.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8939.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
好那個詳細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8939.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8941.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
詳細的改正下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8941.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8945.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
接下來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8945.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8947.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
賴會員委員賴會員委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8947.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8949.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
我們休息五分鐘謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
謝謝主席有請主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
跟那個審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8959.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
謝謝請主席長跟審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8963.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8965.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
好那個兩位早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8965.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8967.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
我想延誕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8967.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8969.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
235天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8969.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8971.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
那2026的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8971.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8973.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
終於互為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8973.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8975.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
那也是今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8975.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8977.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
總預算從去年的9月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8977.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8979.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
送進律法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8979.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8981.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
一直被拖到政協會過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8981.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
終於在前天4月21號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8985.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
互為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8986.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8988.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
我想這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8988.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8990.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
民主化以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8990.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8992.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
在律法院的頭一招 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8992.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8994.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
那立委要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8994.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8996.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
激素激素的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8996.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8998.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
會期裡頭審議算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8998.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9000.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
這個也嚴重的打亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9000.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9002.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
就是律法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
以往向來的一個常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
一個會期主要審法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
一個會期主要審議算的節奏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9009.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9011.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
那在這裡我想特別特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9011.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9013.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
再跟那個審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9013.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9015.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
再做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9018.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9020.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9020.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
審計法第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9024.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
就是說審計機構或審計人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9024.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9026.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
對一個機關違背預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9026.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9028.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
或有關法令的不當支出 |
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9028.5 |
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9030.5 |
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得事前拒絕 |
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9030.5 |
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9032.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
或事後剔除追繳 |
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9032.5 |
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9034.5 |
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這個是不是就是說如果 |
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9035.51 |
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9037.51 |
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如果預算花超過的話 |
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9037.51 |
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9039.51 |
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要不要追回 |
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9040.94 |
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9042.94 |
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因為我們的財務助理 |
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9042.94 |
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9044.94 |
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是在這個預算範圍裡面 |
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9044.94 |
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9046.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
來執行 |
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9046.94 |
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9048.94 |
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我們是希望因為現在 |
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9048.94 |
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9050.94 |
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六月才要審 |
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9050.94 |
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9052.94 |
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現在開始在審 |
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9052.94 |
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9054.94 |
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到六月才會通過 |
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9054.94 |
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9056.94 |
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因為預計在六月通過 |
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9056.94 |
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9058.94 |
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我是希望當時因為 |
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9058.94 |
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9060.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我們的預算法有一條 |
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9060.94 |
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9062.94 |
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是說你可以按照上年度的 |
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9062.94 |
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9064.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
執行情形來執行 |
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9064.94 |
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9066.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
所以 |
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9066.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9068.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
可是我已經花了超過了 |
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9068.94 |
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9070.94 |
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我是希望在預算 |
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9070.94 |
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9072.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
在立法院審議這個 |
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9072.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9074.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
各位立法委員在審議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9074.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9076.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
希望能了解這一點 |
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9076.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
能夠給 |
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9078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9080.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
行政部門當時的依照規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9080.94 |
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9082.94 |
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來做 |
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9082.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9084.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
因為原則上 |
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9084.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9086.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
如果立法院決定的話 |
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9086.94 |
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9088.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
我們是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9088.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9090.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
會給審計意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9090.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9092.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
說你這一個是超過你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9092.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9094.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
預算式這是我們 |
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9094.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9096.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
在預算監督 |
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9096.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9098.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
預算執行的基本原則 |
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9098.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
陳記長要不要追回 |
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9100.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9102.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
當然是基本原則 |
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9102.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9104.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
應該是我們會 |
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9104.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9106.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
會追 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9106.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9108.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9108.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9110.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
好謝謝要追回陳記長你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
我想這個先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
動資的一個預算 |
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9117.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
動資的一個預算然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9119.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9121.58 |
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被大砍過頭了 |
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9121.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9123.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9123.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9125.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
請教主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9125.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9127.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
像你今天就是在未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9127.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
你要審的一個總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9129.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
我們的公共預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9131.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
有編了一個國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
理會46萬1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9137.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
可是去年是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9137.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9139.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
44萬5000 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9139.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
那如果被砍到比去年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
44萬5000還低的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9145.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
那你怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9145.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9147.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
支應還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9147.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9149.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
要勞師動眾又去追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9149.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9151.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
你打算怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9152.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9154.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
所以這個部分我們也懇求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9154.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9156.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
就像院長講的希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9156.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9158.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
盡量來寬練預算因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9158.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9160.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
因應中東一個戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9160.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9162.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
本身有很多的一個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9162.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9164.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
預算還沒有追加之前 |
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9164.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9166.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
他也有很多一個業務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9166.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9168.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
一個需求所以必須要從原有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9168.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9170.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
的經費去做調整支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9170.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9172.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
所以這個部分如果像去年一樣 |
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9172.19 |
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9174.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
也是譬如說去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9174.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9176.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
像出國理會是大砍 |
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9176.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9178.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
百分之60是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9178.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9180.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
每一間也大砍百分之60 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9180.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9182.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
那其實監察院他是全部砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9182.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9184.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
百分之97幾乎只剩下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9184.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9186.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
人事會那所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9186.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9188.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
本身支應是有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9188.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9190.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
所以我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9190.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9192.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
再三的請求也再三的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9192.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9194.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
拜託各位委員這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9194.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9196.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
能夠寬練預算讓我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9196.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9198.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
好能夠來因應中東戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9198.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9200.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
的一個相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9200.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9202.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
整個動漲措施的一個調適 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9202.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9204.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
那另外呢我們也會辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9204.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9206.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
追加但是追加可能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9206.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9208.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
在比較後面才會來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9208.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
追加或者是特別預算這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9212.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
也必須要等到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9212.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9214.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
政策性的一個做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9214.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9216.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
那才能夠去做說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9216.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9218.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
到底是要辦理怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9218.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9220.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
所以你還是要看行政院就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9220.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9222.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
怎麼樣的下一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9222.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9224.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
指示那如果你從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9224.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9226.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
預算法第54條裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9226.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9228.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
他規定的非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9228.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9230.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
預算沒有通過以前只能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9230.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9232.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
依照上年度執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9232.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9234.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
執行數來執行可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9234.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9236.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
我們如果對照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9236.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9238.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
那個會計的業報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9238.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9240.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
我們發現今天執行數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9240.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9242.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
比去年的執行數高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9242.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
那主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9246.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
你要解釋一下這怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9246.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9248.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
還有就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9248.19 |
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9250.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
本席看來這個是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
針對的中央政府在總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
還沒有通過以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
還是中東戰爭這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9259.38 |
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嚴肅以前你已經花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9259.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
比同期更多的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
那這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
非常清楚就是說你不僅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
累積的分配數去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
增加就是年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
累積數累積實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
數都比去年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
那你要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
所以這個部分就是讓公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
行政執行方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
感到為難的一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
所以我們一直在說就是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
就請會員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
來能夠儘速把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
總預算來審查通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
就要審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
但是主席也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9295.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
延宕了235天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9295.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9297.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
要審了那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9297.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9299.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
像這樣子這個法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9299.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9301.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
又是硬梆梆的定在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9301.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
的時候然後你們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
已經是超 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9307.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
超支了那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
要回答我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9313.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
是我要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9313.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9315.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
我們是以整年度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9315.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9317.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
而不是說一個季 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9317.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9319.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
所以只要整年度我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9319.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9321.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
超過那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9321.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9323.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
原來所謂的決算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9323.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9325.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
數的這個部分所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9325.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
是到將近第二季 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9329.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
你是用整年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9329.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9331.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
那我告訴你的是同期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9331.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
所以說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9335.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
就是回到整年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9335.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
好那個主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
我再請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
如果你今年度的預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
比去年度的預算數還高的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
那今年度的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9347.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
案到目前沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9347.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9349.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
理論上應該所有動資的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9349.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
應該是比去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
實際執行的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
那個額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9357.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
額度還會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9357.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9359.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
那個更低才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9359.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9361.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
因為你的收益結實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9361.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9363.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
你不跟後輩開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9363.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9365.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
可是法定的義務收支 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9365.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9367.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
可以不可以刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9367.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9369.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
如果中央政府法定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9369.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
義務收支的事項譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9373.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
他人事會他的債務支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9373.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9375.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
他的社會保險社會津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9375.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9377.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
然後還有最嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9377.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
金公交優蠢的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
你可以刪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9382.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
這原則上依法律義務的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9384.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
我們希望委員能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
盡量支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
因為這個刪的將來也是必須依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
必須依規定在別的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9392.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
可是如果有些委員支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
有些委員不支持的話那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9396.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
所以這樣整個造成一個行政程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9398.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
的一個重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9400.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
因為為什麼這個被刪減的部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
依法律義務我們必須再回編 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9404.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
所以這個回編的部份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9406.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
就要再一次的一個追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
或者是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9410.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
萬年度的一個預算再來補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9412.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
是嗎所以我想大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9414.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
非常辛苦我如果用一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9416.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
那個疾管署的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9418.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
你看環境的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9420.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
95億至少被立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9422.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
通案刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9424.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
大概3783萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9426.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
這個都是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9428.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
嚴重的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9430.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
就是也在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9434.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
就是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
審計處跟主計處就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9438.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
拜託啦這個當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9440.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
大家都非常的辛苦尤其在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
這一年多以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
大家非常辛苦大家就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
要審預算你們大概要想出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9448.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
一個比較那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
妥善的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
說明的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
我們再三懇請貴院能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
手下留情能夠寬列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
謝謝好主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
那個五年半一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
的農業農漁目普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
是不是已經開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
是已經開始了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
從4月10號開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9470.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
那要到6月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9472.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
是那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9474.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
我想這個跟主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
提醒你來自於台南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
台南是所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9480.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
那個我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9484.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
縣市調查的一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
我們的農戶是最多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
是超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
超過了11萬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
那這個11萬是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
佔全國普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
那個91萬戶中的12% |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
那你在台南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9500.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
投下了多少資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
做多少的一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
我們這個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
是這樣像各縣市的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
是由各縣市去辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
那我們自己本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
也有編列1600萬在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9517.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
做農民漁業普查的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9517.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9519.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
來做一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9519.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9521.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
所以這個部分我們今年就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9521.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9523.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
五年一次的農民漁業普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9523.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9525.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
我們除了加強人力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9525.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9527.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
一個改善還有一些細農 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9527.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9529.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
你丟了多少的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9529.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9531.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
那個在這個全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9531.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9533.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
最大的一個直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9533.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9535.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
因為這個其實是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9538.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9540.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
1600多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9540.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9542.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
那如果像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9542.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9544.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
縣市我們也有補助60萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9544.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9546.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
那地方政府呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9546.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9548.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
地方政府我們就補助60萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9548.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9550.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
你看到那個美濃區公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9550.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9552.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
香公所他甚至提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9552.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9554.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
提供就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9554.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9556.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
有這一個摸柴品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9556.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9558.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
的一個誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9558.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9560.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
這個當然就是說要大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9560.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9562.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
就是認真的去重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9562.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9564.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
農漁牧的一個普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9564.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9566.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
聽說獎金是10萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9566.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9568.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
我們也有提供獎金100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9568.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9570.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
投獎是10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9570.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9572.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
100萬分配到全國去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9572.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9574.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
對也有提供這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9574.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9576.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
主席長這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9576.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
這個農民漁普查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9580.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
對農民有很多的好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9580.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9582.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9582.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9584.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
我來自於就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9584.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9586.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
那個農業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9586.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9588.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
那個選區所以我對這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9588.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9590.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
非常非常的一個重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9590.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9592.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
我希望就是說你能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9592.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9594.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
更加精準的配置補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9594.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9596.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
經費然後也對症下藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9596.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9598.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
就是缺工還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9598.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
老農那個整體老化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
的這一些問題還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
產銷的一個失衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
還有避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
那個果腱傷容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
改善在地的一個農業基礎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
一個特別特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
一個依據然後跟著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
詐騙集團來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
詐騙集團來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
現在現有存在的你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
大家去網路上來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
這個普查的一個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
那成效好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
目前是成效很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
目前為什麼會成效很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
就是說會在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
報的大概都是青龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
青龍已經報了差不多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
然後詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9642.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
詐騙已經跟著來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9642.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9644.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
所以我們希望就是說你書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9644.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
報告就是說這個你們怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9646.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
預防這一個詐騙好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
我本席知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9652.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
好謝謝你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9652.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9653.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9655.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
謝謝我們賴慧芸委員的質詢我們休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9655.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9657.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
五分鐘之後我們開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9657.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9659.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
王世堅委員的質詢謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9662.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9664.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
好上洗手間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9664.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9666.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9780.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9782.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9902.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9904.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9988.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9990.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9994.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9996.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
好我們現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9996.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9998.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
接下來我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9998.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10000.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
王世堅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10000.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10002.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
大家請陸陸續續就座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10002.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10004.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10005.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
還在洗手間沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10009.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
但是那個大家保持安靜一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10011.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10013.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
來謝謝王世堅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10028.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10030.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
謝謝主席我請外務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10032.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10034.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
請庄次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10050.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10052.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
喂好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10051.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10053.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10052.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10054.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
庄次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10054.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10056.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10060.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10062.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10062.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10064.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10064.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10066.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10067.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10069.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10070.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
馬鈴薯輸入台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10071.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
那麼他的簡易 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10073.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10075.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10075.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10077.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10077.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10079.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
是 |
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10079.69 |
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10081.69 |
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是 |
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10081.69 |
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10083.69 |
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是 |
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10083.69 |
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10085.69 |
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是 |
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10085.69 |
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10087.69 |
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是 |
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10087.69 |
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10089.69 |
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是 |
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10089.69 |
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10091.69 |
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是 |
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10091.69 |
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10093.69 |
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是 |
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10093.69 |
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10095.69 |
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是 |
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10095.69 |
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10097.69 |
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是 |
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10097.69 |
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10099.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
是 |
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10099.69 |
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10101.69 |
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是 |
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10085.62 |
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10087.62 |
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是 |
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10086.82 |
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10088.82 |
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是 |
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10088.82 |
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10090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
是 |
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10090.82 |
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10092.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
是 |
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10092.82 |
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10094.82 |
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是 |
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10094.82 |
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10096.82 |
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是 |
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10096.82 |
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10098.82 |
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是 |
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10098.82 |
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10100.82 |
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是 |
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10100.82 |
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10102.82 |
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是 |
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10102.82 |
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10104.82 |
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是 |
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10104.82 |
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10106.82 |
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是 |
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10106.82 |
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10108.82 |
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是 |
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10108.82 |
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10110.82 |
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是 |
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10110.82 |
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10112.82 |
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是 |
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10112.82 |
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10114.82 |
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是 |
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10090.28 |
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10092.28 |
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是 |
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10092.28 |
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10094.28 |
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是 |
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10094.28 |
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10096.28 |
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是 |
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10096.28 |
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10098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
是 |
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10098.28 |
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10100.28 |
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是 |
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10100.28 |
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10102.28 |
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是 |
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10102.28 |
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10104.28 |
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是 |
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10104.28 |
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10106.28 |
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是 |
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10106.28 |
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10108.28 |
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是 |
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10108.28 |
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10110.28 |
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是 |
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10110.28 |
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10112.28 |
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是 |
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10112.28 |
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10114.28 |
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是 |
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10114.28 |
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10116.28 |
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是 |
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10116.28 |
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10118.28 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10095.49 |
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10097.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
但是什麼都管不好 |
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10097.33 |
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10098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
所以你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10101.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10102.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
warto讓ettre |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10105.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
說實在話是無辜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10105.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
關務署其實主要是要針對茶器走私違禁品 |
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10109.79 |
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10113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
毒品以及關稅徵收管理以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10115.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
那他們本身也已經夠忙啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10115.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10117.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
所以這一次實在是 |
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10117.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10121.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
也無妄自在多了這樣子的一個任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10121.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10122.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
所以彭署長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10122.91 |
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10124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10126.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
所以其實最主要關鍵 |
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10127.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10129.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
我們輸入這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10130.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
的農產品最重要是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
檢疫看它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10137.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
這個是不是會對國人健康產生影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10137.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
所以最關鍵是你們啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10141.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
你們的檢查啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10141.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10143.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
你們的檢查我們就是要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10145.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10147.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
是否含有龍虧檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10148.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10150.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
來做檢測 |
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10150.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10152.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
那這個部分 |
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10152.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
就是數 |
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10153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
藥物署就是數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10156.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
你們衛福部的責任啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10161.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
食藥署就是要針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10161.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10163.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
可是很清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10163.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10166.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
針對龍虧檢的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10166.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
那在我們台灣目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10170.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
只有兩個機構 |
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10171.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10173.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
我們目前有六個機構可以檢驗啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10173.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10175.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
有多早了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10175.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10177.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
沒有就是有兩個是認證的 |
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10177.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10179.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
其他的也是都可以檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10179.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10181.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
沒有認證的我們敢給他做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10181.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10183.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
而且每一次檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10183.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10185.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
檢驗龍虧檢你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10185.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10187.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
你是專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10187.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10190.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
每一次檢驗需要五到七天的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10190.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10192.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
三天啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10192.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10194.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
三天好就算你三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10195.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10197.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
我們每次進口啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10197.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10199.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
這個噸數我們有百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10199.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10205.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
我們有進口的數量是占高達十五萬噸耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10206.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10208.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
如果一顆數算 |
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10208.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10210.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
那是數百萬顆耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10211.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10213.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
上百萬顆以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10213.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10215.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
那我請問啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10215.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10217.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
這麼大的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10217.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10219.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
你要來檢驗就算說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10219.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10221.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
檢驗一次要三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10221.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10223.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
在你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10223.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10225.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
只有兩家機構之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10225.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10227.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
我們這個檢驗的量能夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10227.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10229.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10229.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10231.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
我們現在是用抽驗的方式啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10231.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10233.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
所以像從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10233.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10235.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
113年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10235.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10237.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
總共馬鈴薯進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10237.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10239.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
1652批 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10239.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10241.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
所以我們每就是抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10241.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10243.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
兩到十%啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10243.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10245.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
目前我們是檢驗了61批 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10245.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10247.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
大概四%左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10247.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10249.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
那這個部分事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10249.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10251.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
量能目前是依風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10251.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10253.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
那如果需要的話我們會再加驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10253.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10255.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
現在量能就已經不足了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10255.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10257.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
那現在因為我們放空 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10257.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10259.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10259.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10261.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
如果查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10261.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10263.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
我們如果查到發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10263.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10265.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
我們現在不是整批退驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10265.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10267.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
不是了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10267.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10269.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
應該是說驗到龍蝴蜆超過200批驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10269.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
我們整批退 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10273.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
他一批如果三個蝴蜊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10273.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10275.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
三個蝴蜊都退 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10275.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10277.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
我是說但是如果以農業署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10277.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10279.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
那個檢驗方式啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10279.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10281.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
現在沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10281.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10283.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
如果是以發芽以目測這個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10283.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10285.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
你都沒有整批 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10285.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10287.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
所以量會增大嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10287.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10289.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
包委員如果說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10289.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10291.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10291.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10293.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
就是農業部有看到有發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10293.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10295.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
那他們會把它剔除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10295.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10297.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
那我們會針對這一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10297.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10299.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
你放心農業部看不到的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10299.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10301.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我們會針對這一批去做檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10301.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10303.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
沒有發芽方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10303.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10305.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
我們也會抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10305.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10307.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
我已經認為必須全部寄望於你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10309.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10311.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
而且實質下去驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10311.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10313.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10313.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10315.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
我現在就跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10316.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
都一批都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10316.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10318.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
多一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10318.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10320.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
用輪回檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10320.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10322.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
這是第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10322.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10324.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
再來就進來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10323.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10325.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
進來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10325.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10327.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
加工用的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10327.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10329.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
變成怎麼辦變成後端查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10329.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10331.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
好啦後端查驗就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10331.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10333.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
用食品工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10333.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10335.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
他們的管理他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10335.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10337.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
自己的管理或者我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10337.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10339.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
怎麼樣去抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10339.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10341.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
但是在這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10341.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10343.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
我想那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10343.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10345.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
莊市長你很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10345.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10347.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我們國內的食品工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10347.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10349.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10349.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10351.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
參差不齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10351.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10353.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
近期去查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10353.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10355.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
你查核的量能是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10355.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10357.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
我請問你查核的量能是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10357.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10359.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
可不可以請市長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
我跟你講喔我們說我們這一次同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10365.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
同意說加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
那這樣子就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10371.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
我們不整批對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10371.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10373.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
我們說比照日本的標準很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10374.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10378.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
光是日本在後端這個加工處理方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10378.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10380.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
他要做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10380.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
他們就必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10382.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10384.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
第一個他們有指定的工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10386.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10388.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
日本政府自己下去指定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10391.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10393.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
要危急的食品廠才可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10393.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10395.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
而且特定的品牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10397.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10399.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
要經過日本政府同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10399.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10401.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
第二個他們要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10401.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10403.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
一定的機器設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10403.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10405.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
這個機器設備啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10406.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10408.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10409.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10411.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
這個機器設備是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10411.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10413.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
這個機器設備是可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10417.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
具備它高度自動化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10417.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10419.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
設則與形狀辨識機器 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10419.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10421.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
設則與形狀辨識機器 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10422.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10424.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
他是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10424.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10426.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
設則跟形狀自動辨識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10428.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10430.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
才能夠進入他的加工程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10432.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10434.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
我們有這樣的要求嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10435.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10437.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
包括委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
10437.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
10439.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
對於我們國內的食品加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
10439.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
10441.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
我們本身就要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
10441.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
10443.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
要去做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
10443.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
10445.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
10445.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
10447.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
第一個就是業者本身的設施設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
10447.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10449.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
本來就要符合相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10449.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10451.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
那在於他開始製造的之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10451.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10453.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
他本身除了要自主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10453.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10455.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
檢驗自主管理之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10455.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10457.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
自主監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10457.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10459.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
那是他自主的第一層 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10459.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10461.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
第二層的部分必要的一個規模之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10461.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10463.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
可以由第三方來驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10463.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10465.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
另外有一個就是委員非常關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10465.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10467.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
衛生單位的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10467.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10469.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
那衛生單位有中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10469.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10471.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
共同合作的專案稽查之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10471.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10473.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
地方也會依他的產業特點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10473.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10475.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
去做稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10475.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10477.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
中央跟地方的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10477.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10479.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
第一點都量能不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10480.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10482.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
那這個我不怪中央說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10482.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10484.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
是不是監督配合不力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10484.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10486.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10486.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10488.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
因為各地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10488.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10490.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
這樣子的案量也太大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10490.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10492.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
在我們食安法通過之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10492.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10494.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
在這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10494.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10496.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
我們地方政府實在是利有畏待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10496.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10498.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10498.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10500.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
那這樣我這次就只問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10500.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10502.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
就光這個書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10501.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10503.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
這個馬鈴薯的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10503.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10505.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
馬鈴薯最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10505.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10507.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
百分之百加工的就是薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10507.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10509.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
我現在就問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10509.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10511.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
就光是日本他們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10511.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10513.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
必須要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10513.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10515.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
攝摺與形狀辨識設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10515.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10517.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10517.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10519.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
有或沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10519.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
我告訴你喔 我問民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10521.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10523.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10522.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10524.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
相關食品加工廠喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10525.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10527.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
他們連聽都沒聽過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10527.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10529.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
人家都很老實回答承認嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10529.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10531.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
那所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10531.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10533.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
我們要 我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10533.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10535.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
我們輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10535.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10537.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
我們的條件要比照日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10537.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10539.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
那我們也相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10539.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10541.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
也要有比照日本的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10543.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10545.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
跟工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10545.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10547.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
這樣的機制才能比照不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10548.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10550.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
委員您所關心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10550.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10552.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
對不對 要不然你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10552.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10554.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
你只說人家他們進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10554.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10556.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
他們哪一些可以寬一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10556.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10558.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
可以輕忽一點 這是好喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10558.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10560.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
這對大家各國之間貿易的往來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10560.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10562.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
這對我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10562.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10564.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
也不是不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10564.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10566.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
我們對人家進口的友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10566.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10568.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
方便通關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10568.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10570.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
相對他們也要對我們方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10570.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10572.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
在農產品的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10572.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10574.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
但是食品健康的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10574.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10576.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10576.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10578.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
我在問你 莊市長你是專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10580.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
那如果製成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10584.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
欸 製成薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10584.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10586.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
或薯餅以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10586.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10588.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
後端你有辦法再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10588.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
查驗農虧檢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
不可能啦 是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
傳統市場啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
或是像全聯商商這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
我們會去抽驗 還有原料我們會去抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
那個已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
經過油炸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10602.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10604.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
欸 經過曾祖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10605.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10607.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
經過恩向程序以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10608.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10610.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
我看啊 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10610.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10612.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
不管食藥署或地方政府衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10612.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10614.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
連一件也不會去查啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10614.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10616.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
呃 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10616.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10618.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
如果這個產品進入到工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10618.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10620.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
工廠裡面的產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10620.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10622.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
工廠的你們有去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10622.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10624.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
我們工廠有稽查專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10624.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10626.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
我們在去查的時候 我現在就請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10626.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10628.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
可能我問的跟你問的不太一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10628.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10630.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
我就問你 你現在是不是趕快通令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10630.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10632.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
這些有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10632.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10634.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
這個馬鈴薯加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10634.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10636.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
的這些工廠 請問他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10636.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10638.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
有沒有說自動化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10638.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10640.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
攝摺與形狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10640.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10642.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
辨識設備 有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10642.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10644.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10644.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10646.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
委員您關心的是選別機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10646.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10648.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
那就是一個包括他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10648.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10650.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
因為我們說比照日本的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10650.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10652.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
選擇機裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10652.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10654.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
包括一開始原料去做一些選別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10654.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10656.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
然後包括攝摺部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10656.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10658.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
那這個部分我們可以再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10658.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10660.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
你可以再跟工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10660.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10662.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
我們會再跟往確認 但是基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10662.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10664.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
這是一個工廠的基本設施設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10664.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10666.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
那麼那個莊市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10666.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10668.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
還有最後我請教一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10668.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10670.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
就是關於我們重要的藥品的管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10670.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10672.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
因為最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10672.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10674.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
國際上有一些紛擾比較不安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10674.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10676.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
先前我們在進口藥品的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10676.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10678.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
就已經碰到一些干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10678.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10680.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
那這個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10680.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10682.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
過去長期以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10682.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10684.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
我們都沒有主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10684.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10686.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
去查核這些重要藥品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10686.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10688.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
能的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10692.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
結果這個部分我們都是讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10692.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10694.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
藥商來向我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10694.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10696.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
來他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10696.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10698.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
反而是藥商主動必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10698.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10700.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
跟我們報備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10700.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10702.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
那我們反而沒有反向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10702.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10704.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
去主動要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10704.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10706.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
我們有立法他們一定要跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10706.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10708.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
報備 如果說六個月之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10708.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10710.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
有缺藥什麼他一定要跟我們通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10710.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10712.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
這個事實上是有法可以罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10712.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10714.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
對 這個是讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10714.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
來報備 我們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10718.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
主動去查查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10718.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
我認為針對主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
我們會去查工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
也會 也會 也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10726.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
針對藥商報備來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10726.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10728.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
那現在怎麼會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10728.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10730.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
這些重要的藥品有缺貨呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10730.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10732.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
主要有時候是因為突然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10732.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10734.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
他原料有缺貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10734.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10736.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
或是說他們工廠要改建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10736.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10738.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
那這其實有時候是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10738.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10740.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
就是會發生類似這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10740.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10742.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
這個我下次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10742.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10744.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
好好跟你談一談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10744.23 |
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10746.23 |
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謝謝你 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10745.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10747.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
謝謝王世堅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10747.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10749.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
王世堅委員剛指導的高包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10749.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
指定加工廠的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10751.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10753.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
有沒有這樣的量能跟有沒有這樣的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10753.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10755.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
可以去做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10755.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10757.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
這是我剛提出來的請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10757.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10759.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
莊次長這邊做完整的答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10759.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10761.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
書面答覆 接下來我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10761.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10763.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
李坤誠委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10770.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10772.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10772.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10774.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
我們先請陳淑季長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10782.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10784.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
委員好 主席長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10785.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10787.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
現在我們才要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10787.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10789.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
審查這個今年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10789.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10791.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
預算 其實今年度的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10791.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10793.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
應該是去年底應該就要審查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10793.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10795.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
你們這一次的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10795.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10797.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
115年度的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10797.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10799.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
稅入是編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10799.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10801.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
2兆8623億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10801.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10803.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
稅出是3兆350億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10803.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10805.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
那是在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10805.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
8月29號就送到立法院來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10809.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
所以超過230天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10809.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10811.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
終於要復為審查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10811.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
那其實在上禮拜的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10813.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10815.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
我有問過主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10815.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10817.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
面對中東的戰事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10817.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
那其實去年在編預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10821.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
也沒有遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10821.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10823.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
上次有跟主席長提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10823.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10825.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10825.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10827.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
面對中東戰事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10827.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10829.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
所需要的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10829.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10831.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
各部會大概統籌下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10831.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10833.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
需要大概1292億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10833.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10835.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
那時候我有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10835.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
是不是用特別預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
主席長那時候回答說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10843.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
那想請教一下主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10843.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10845.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
因為現在預算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10845.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10847.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
復為審查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10847.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10849.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
那應該有機會在5、6月的時候通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10849.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10851.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
那所以現在院裡面的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10851.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10853.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
因為的確我們還是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10853.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10855.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10855.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10857.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
那這筆預算來因應中東戰事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10857.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
那現在院裡面的態度是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10861.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
用特別預算還是用最佳預算的方式來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
因為目前還沒有定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
因為如果說特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
就要擬定特別條例先經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
立法院來通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
如果用最佳預算就是到了時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
直接辦最佳預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
那第二個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
當初是提1292億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
這個是各部會提報的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
那還沒有經過他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
整個的一個補助期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
或者是說單價和細減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
去完成審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
但是陸陸續續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
中有來講他除了吸收他那個價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
到目前為止是114億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10897.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
但是其他他還有吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10897.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
要吸收一些成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
因為現在他進貨的一個成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
每一個貨輪他都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
漲價漲的非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
所以這一些的成本的吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
將來要怎麼樣去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
編列預算來給他做一些補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
不然的話整個中有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
他的一個財務狀況就會越來越壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
主席講的意思是說將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
如果不論是特別運算或是最佳運算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10921.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
金額會比這個1292億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10921.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10923.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
還更多就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10923.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
那這要看你編列的期限是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
譬如說我如果說補助剩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
譬如說我有對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
所謂的交通的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
公共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
公共那個巴士 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
或者其他的一個補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
那這個部分公共運輸的一個補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
他要看你補貼期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
的多少那因為他有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
有價的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
那我們現在是動漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
他有達到上限要補助開始補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
或者是說到什麼時候截止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
或者要不要補計程車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
或者是其他的一個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
中有的他補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
的這個部分要怎麼補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
台電的天然氣的部分要怎麼補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
這個部分都必須要一個一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
去算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
譬如說你講的經濟部或交通部或農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
他們已經有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
目前需要的一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
這個補貼的一些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
送上去的所以你才會給我1292億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
最初期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
所以我才問說那如果我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
聽主計長這樣講那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
這個因為戰事也不知道哪時候會結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
聽聽打打的那所以最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
有可能這個數字會再比 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
這個超過這個數字1292億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
也有可能啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
目前我們請他們陸續提報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
但是這個部分因為像中有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
它吸收的成本非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
以現在來講它的成本就是整個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11007.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
高漲起來將來一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11007.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11009.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
做有一些的一個補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11009.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
所以要用特別預算或是用最佳預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
都還沒有確定就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
但是的確是需要這筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
這筆預算因為我們這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
穩定物價或是說對於這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
各行各業的補貼其實已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
11023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
陸陸續續在開始在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
好那我再請教一下主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
這個總運算副委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
11027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
11029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
有這個附帶的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
11029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
11031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
那附帶條件就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
11031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
11033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
要行政院在半年內提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
11033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
11035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
有關軍人待遇條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
11035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
11037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
還有這個警察人員人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
11037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
11039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
條例的相關修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
11039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
11041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
還有其他有關軍公教的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
11041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
11043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
措施啦那我請教一下主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
11043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
那當然這個目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
11045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
11047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
這部分我們是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
11047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
11049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
釋憲了啦但是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
11051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
在野黨有要求然後為了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
11051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
11053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
讓總運算能夠審查那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
11053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
11055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
行政院這邊看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
11055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
是有讓步啦就是說主院長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
11057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
對於這兩項的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
還有軍公教整體待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
調整的想法應該還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
11063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11065.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
有加強的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11065.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
更符合國軍的照顧也照顧到國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
財政的紀律也符合憲政的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
請問一下主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
11071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
那這個要怎麼做因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
看起來就是要在做一家運算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
不然你們去年就是沒有這筆運算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
11079.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11081.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
這個部分我要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11081.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11083.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
院長有指示就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11083.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11085.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
未來要將以體制健全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
11085.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11087.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
法治完備還有公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
11087.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11089.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
和平還有財政永續 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11089.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11091.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
對對對這我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11091.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11093.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
四大原則來做整個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11093.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
整體軍公教的一個待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
那所以這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11099.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
就是不管是在公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11099.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11101.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
和平性還有財政永續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11101.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11103.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
基礎上是要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11103.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11105.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
那人種還有跟相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11105.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11107.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
有一些政務委員都一直在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11107.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
在模擬這個整個相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11111.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11111.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11113.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
這個四個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11113.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11115.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
那最後要完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11115.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
但是呢你要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
這個比如說在野黨他們的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11121.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
那我看起來就是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11121.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11123.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
你必須要用最佳運算的方式來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11123.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
因為你去年沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
編這些運算對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
你是講說軍公教緊銷或是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
整體的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
公務人員待遇的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11135.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
那看起來就是要再追加一筆運算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11135.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
我們會看將來的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11139.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
討論出來的一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11139.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11141.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
我們來做那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11141.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11143.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
整個一個裁員的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11144.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11146.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11146.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11148.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
我的意思是說啦因為你不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11148.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11150.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
沒有回應嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11150.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11152.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
你有回應的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11152.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11154.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
這筆運算在去年你們編的時候根本就沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11154.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11156.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
那到最後還是要用最佳運算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11156.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11158.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
來做處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11158.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11160.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
有點像是去年的這個進發補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11160.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11162.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
條例的方式了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11162.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11164.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
我們必須要看整個實施的日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11164.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11166.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
因為院長要裁定說實施的日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11166.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11168.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
看實施的日期到底是什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11168.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11170.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
然後來確定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11170.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11172.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
第一個我們的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11172.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11174.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
實施的日期有可能比如說明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11174.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11176.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
那就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
弄在這個明年的預算就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
這也是一種方式就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
那你們現在編概算了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
現在編明年的概算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
所以應該就把這筆運算把它想進去了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11187.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11189.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
現在目前還沒有金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11189.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11191.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
因為現在討論的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11191.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11193.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
還沒有定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11193.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11195.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
這個一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11195.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11197.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
人種一直在提方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11197.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11199.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
跟一些相關的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11199.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11201.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
來做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11201.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11203.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
那我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
11203.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11205.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
似乎就是可能要用這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
11205.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11207.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
行政院自己提 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
11207.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
11209.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
不管是條例的一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
11209.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11211.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
或是說我們自己主動提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
11211.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11213.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
說如何再讓這個軍工較勁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
11213.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
11215.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
這個待運能夠再增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11215.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11217.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
11216.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
那一定最後是提到錢的問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
就是預算啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
那看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11224.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
如果說是在明年實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11224.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
那當然就是屬於明年的預算啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
11226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11228.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
那可能今年就不一定用最佳預算的方式來做處理了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11228.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11230.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
大概是這個方式嘛是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11231.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11233.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
好OK謝謝主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11233.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11235.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
那我請這個財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
11235.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11237.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
今天是阮市長來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11237.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11239.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
還是誰 市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11242.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11244.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
那你邊走我邊問啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11245.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11247.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11248.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11250.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
2025年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11250.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11252.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
按照你們的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11252.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11254.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
全國的賦稅的收入是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11254.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11256.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
3兆7879億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11256.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11258.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
創歷史新高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11258.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11260.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
連續5年呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11260.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11262.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
正成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11262.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11264.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
然後高出預算數最多其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11264.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11266.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
證交稅啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11266.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11268.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
證交稅這個超出預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11268.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11270.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
234億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11270.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11272.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
其實是遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11272.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11274.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
但是呢看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11274.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11276.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
我們的稅率是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11276.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11278.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
這也是從這個從2021年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
首次出現的短徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
跟預算數相比 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
去年的時徵的進額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
較預算數短少了143億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
那請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11293.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
我們的賦稅收入增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11295.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
但是呢實際上有短徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11297.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11299.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
那短徵原因在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11298.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
其實我覺得最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
最主要因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11304.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11304.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11306.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11306.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11308.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
最主要是因為他去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11308.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11310.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
就是我們在去年結算申報的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11310.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11312.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
前一年的時候我們是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11312.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11314.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
給他分期或者延期申報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11315.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11317.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
那到這個去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11317.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11319.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
申報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11319.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
申報的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
他就整個要補回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
所以基本上我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
雖然是說有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
就是說時針數比預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
要少一點但是少非常小 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11333.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
就是在1%以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11333.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11335.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
非常精準所以我們去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11335.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
的這個預算數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
是非常精準的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
沒有啦你們算是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
證交稅就不精準啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
一來一往就差了快400億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
你們本來還簡列喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
你們簡列100本來是編 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
2500億簡列了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
193億但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
實際上呢超出預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11359.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
是234億這我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11359.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
一來一往就400億了這 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
這部分就不精準了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
有時候是這樣啦稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11367.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
我們編制到這個執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11367.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11369.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
真的是有一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11369.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11371.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
真的是很難掌握啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11371.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11373.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
不過就去年來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11373.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11375.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
我們也不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11375.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11377.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
所以我是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11377.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11379.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
時針數達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11379.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11381.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
這個預算數大概99%點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11381.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11383.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
幾也就是說差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11383.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11385.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
真的非常小 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11385.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11387.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
有時候有些稅務是多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11387.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11389.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
那我再問一下啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11389.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11391.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
因為這是其實是今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11391.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11393.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
預算在這邊討論喔因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11393.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11395.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
你們去年收多少今年都已經知道了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11395.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11397.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
對對對那明年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11397.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11399.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
的預算呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11399.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11401.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
我是說在證交稅這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11401.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11403.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
那明年度可能是9月之後的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11403.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11405.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
那但是我就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11405.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11407.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
請教一下因為目前看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11407.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11409.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
股市是蠻熱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11409.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11411.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
然後呢我看你們第一季的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11411.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11413.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
報告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11415.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
證交稅是連續8個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11415.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
維持政成長了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11419.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11420.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11422.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
現在在估明年的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11422.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11424.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
這個預算數還有這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11424.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
這個證交稅這方面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
應該是不至於在低估了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11430.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
其實我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11430.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
這個國際政經情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
這個變動非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
快速啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
有時候還很難說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
說得準啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
風雨飄而的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
台灣都屹立不搖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
在東東戰事轉期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
這個股市這個跌跌漲漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
11448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
11450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
台股還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
11450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
11452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
我看今天本來有到3萬8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
11452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
對但是後來還是會掉下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
11454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
11456.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
對我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
11456.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11458.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
因為第一季 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11458.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
其實你們時針數是有增加的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
我是希望說你們在預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
這個證交稅這方面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
能夠再估準一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
不然你們這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11470.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
去年你們認為說今年這一個股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11470.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
沒有那麼熱還減劣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
減劣了證交稅實際上沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
還增加到200多億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
林市長請林市長報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11480.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
我們從今年第一季 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11480.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11482.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
第一季我們就是全國數來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11482.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
比上年同期大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11486.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
增加10145億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11486.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11488.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
但是就中央來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11488.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
中央其實是少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
這個353億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
因為財務法的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11496.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
對這我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11496.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11498.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
對這我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11498.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11500.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
請市長用書面做回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11500.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11504.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
待會再請林市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11504.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11506.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
林市長請林市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11506.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11508.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
我們待會開放12點開放現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11508.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11510.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
可以使用便當喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11510.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11512.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
那請林市長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11523.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11523.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
我請農業部的胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
還有衛福部莊市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
還有衛福部莊市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11538.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11540.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
好兩位市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11541.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11543.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
我先請教胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11543.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11545.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11545.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11547.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
請問我們使用馬鈴薯輸入的檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11547.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11551.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
農業部在107年的相關規定是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11551.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
對於這些發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
是不是可以輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
11557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11559.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
在輸入的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11559.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
我們農業部是做三項檢疫的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
第一個你如果帶土的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
我問你107年的規定是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
是就是這三項我們檢疫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
帶土的或者是有8種病害的病蟲害的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11573.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11575.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
還有發芽超過0.5公分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11575.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
這三項是我們檢疫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
5毫米以上的芽體就不得輸入嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11581.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
對所以這個要全部退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11581.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11583.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
或者是銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11583.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11585.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
市長我請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11585.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11587.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
當時的規定為什麼這樣規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11588.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
因為帶土的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11592.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
我們現在不會問你帶土的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11592.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11594.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
問你發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11594.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11596.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
因為發芽的部分有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11596.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11598.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
它會流入市面會去種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11598.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11600.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
會中毒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11600.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11602.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
不是中毒是會去種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11602.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
種在田裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11606.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
吃了會怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11606.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
吃的是食藥署他們所主管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
所以你不管吃的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11612.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
對對對我們是負責檢驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11612.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11614.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
包委員就是有關這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11614.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
如果一旦農業部有開了發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
它會剔除啦但是我們針對那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
他們那一批沒有發芽我們會去驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
如果驗出農口菸超過200ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
我們整批都會退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11627.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11629.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
市長我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11629.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11631.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
我現在問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11631.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11633.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
你現在答對所問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11633.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11635.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
吃了這些發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11635.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11637.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
有可能有什麼後遺症 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11637.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11639.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
會不會中毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11639.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11641.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
你從一些的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11641.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11643.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
我們就不建議發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11643.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11645.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
就不建議吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11645.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11647.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
吃了會有什麼後遺症 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11647.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11649.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
會有什麼後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11649.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11651.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
可以跟大家分享一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11651.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11653.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
有什麼後果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11653.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11655.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
如果吃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11655.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11657.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
會造成身體什麼樣的不適嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11657.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11659.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
因為你建議不要吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11659.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11661.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
就可能看含量多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11661.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11663.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
會有不等的症狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11663.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11665.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
如果說那個含量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11665.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11667.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
發芽可能會就是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11667.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11669.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
血鹼的濃度會比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11669.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11671.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11671.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11673.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
未成熟的吃了就會造成人體的不適 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11673.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11675.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11675.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11677.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
那會有什麼症狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11677.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
可能會有嘔吐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
嘔吐神經性的一些症狀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
就是會有噁心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
嘔吐腹痛腹瀉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
輕微中毒者1至2天內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
他會自動痊癒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
重者則因劇烈的嘔吐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
導致脫水電解質不平衡及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
血壓下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
更嚴重者會造成昏迷抽搐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
呼吸重疏麻痺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
導致死亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
那個量比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
所以我看到我搜尋了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
我們全國各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
政府的衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
都在呼籲說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
請勿食用發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
那你的意見呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11721.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11723.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
我們也是呼籲民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11723.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11725.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
如果看到有發芽就不要吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11725.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11727.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11727.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11729.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
很可能造成我們身體健康的危害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11729.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11731.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11731.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11733.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
所以衛福部的立場是跟全國各縣市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11733.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11735.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
衛生局是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11735.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11737.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
有做這方面的宣導吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11737.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11739.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11739.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11741.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
好那我再請教農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11745.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
吳市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11747.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
那你在今年的2月6號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
你就公告訂定對於現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
美國產加工用的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
做出調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11759.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
請問為什麼做出調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11759.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11761.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
調整就是把本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11761.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11763.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
進口的不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11763.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
先食或者是加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11765.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11767.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
如果一旦查到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11767.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11769.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
就退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11769.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11771.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
那後來2月6號調整是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11771.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11773.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
先食的跟加工的把它分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
用途不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
先食跟加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
但是你先食針對加工的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
你就是讓它不是像這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
我們來講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
發覺有發芽的就全部不得輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
你現在是讓它輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11786.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11788.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
然後再去做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11789.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11791.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
我們有三大把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11791.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11795.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
第一個就是我們如果檢疫的時候發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11795.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11797.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
有發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11797.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11799.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
我們就會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11799.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11801.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
如果它發芽太長了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11801.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11803.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
或者是比例太高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11803.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11805.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
比如說達到兩三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11805.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11807.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
我們也會要求它退運或銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11807.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11809.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
那如果很少因為過去這幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11809.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11811.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
平均查驗到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11811.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11813.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
發芽是只有0.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11813.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11815.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
如果我們發現了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11815.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11817.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
我們會要求這些進口人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11817.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11819.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
他要提出一個改善計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11819.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11821.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
市長我想問你的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11821.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11823.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
你新的法規跟舊的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11823.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11825.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
為什麼要做這種調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11825.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11827.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
你原本規定就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11827.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11829.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
只要超過5毫米 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11829.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11831.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
發芽超過5毫米就不得輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11831.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11833.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
那你現在為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11833.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11835.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
再去做不一樣的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11835.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11837.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
現在是放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11837.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11839.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
用途不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11839.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11841.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
用途不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11841.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11843.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
發芽的長度是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11843.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11845.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
你再去查請加工查來查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11845.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11847.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11847.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11849.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
不是我們查驗不是加工廠查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11849.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11851.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
所以他如果要進來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11851.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11853.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
因為我們有做海關查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11853.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11855.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
不是你查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11855.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11857.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
我們有檢疫人員在海關就檢查到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11857.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11859.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
如果有的話而且情況不是很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11859.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11861.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
那這樣的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11861.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11863.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
我們問這些進口的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11863.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11865.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
那你是抽檢還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11865.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11867.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
每一顆都查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11867.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11869.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
很簡單我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11869.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11871.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
錢中貨在一個貨櫃裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11871.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11873.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
很肉眼就可以看得到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11873.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11875.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
因為他是用網貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11875.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11877.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
一個貨櫃有幾顆馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11877.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11879.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
一個貨櫃25公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11879.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11881.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11881.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11883.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
應該25公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11883.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11885.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
應該是上萬顆有吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11885.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11887.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
有有有8萬多顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11887.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11889.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
你怎麼查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11889.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11891.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
肉肉可以查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11891.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11893.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
可以啊因為從 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11893.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11895.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
疫病從來也好或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11895.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11897.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
土壤也好那個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11897.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11899.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
除非說有懷疑他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11899.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11901.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
懷疑說這個有黑色斑點我們把他送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11901.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11903.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
我們的試驗給廊廠所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11903.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11905.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
我們現在的整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11905.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11907.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
我們就是對於馬鈴薯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11907.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11909.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
輸入我查到的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11909.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11911.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
除進口的冷凍馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11911.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11913.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11913.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11915.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
馬鈴薯除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11915.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11917.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
總署除外啦生鮮或 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11917.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11919.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
冷藏的主要的輸入國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11919.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11921.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
是美國約佔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11921.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11923.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
85%還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11923.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11925.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
澳大利亞約佔15% |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11925.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
那我請問你你這次是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
美國的加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11931.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
再做一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11931.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11933.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
澳大利亞進口的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11933.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
就排除啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11935.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11937.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
按照舊法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11937.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11939.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
他如果跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11939.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11941.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
針對美國因為那個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11941.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
美國產加工馬鈴薯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11945.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11945.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11947.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
那澳洲的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11947.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
澳洲他就是到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
他沒有跟我們談 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
那你為什麼要這樣子去判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11955.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11955.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11957.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
為什麼要做區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11957.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
因為美國給你們施壓是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
不是這個是本來我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
不斷的兩國之間的諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
這個是一直都在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
所以我說其實喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
我們對美國產加工馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
輸入檢疫條件啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
2月份做這樣的公告啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
其實放寬這個條件就針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
美國這個地區進口的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
來做變更調整嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11979.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11981.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
不是這整個談判我們就覺得是非常不公平啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11983.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11985.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
是在國際上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11985.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11987.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
其實也都只有針對加工啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11987.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11989.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
針對加工沒有這樣子做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11989.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11991.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
那澳大利亞的你為什麼不把規定進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11991.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
因為事實上我們要公 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11997.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
我們在民國94年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11997.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11999.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
那時候就一致性跟每一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11999.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12001.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
那後來有陸陸續續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12001.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12003.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
有國家之間的相互諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12003.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
107年的規定跟現在你2月份的公告啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12009.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
只針對美國的加工的這個馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12009.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12011.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
做出新的一個公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12011.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12013.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
其他國家你就說剛才跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12013.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12015.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
還是用舊的法規啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12015.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12016.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12016.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12018.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
你為什麼要為美國良心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12018.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
訂做一個新的輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12020.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12022.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
因為其他的國家沒有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12022.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12024.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
因為事實上我們要公告之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12024.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12026.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
我們要公 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12026.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12028.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
就放寬美國的馬鈴薯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12028.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12030.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
不是這樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12030.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12032.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
因為國際之間的貿易就是這樣的談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12032.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12034.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
其實我剛才我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12034.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12036.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
為部長講的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12036.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12038.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
發亞的馬鈴薯確實喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12038.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12040.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
不適合來食用啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12040.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12042.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
你是加工後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12042.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12044.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
也是不能用不能吃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12044.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12046.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
吃了就是為了為了韓國人的健康啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12046.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12048.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12048.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12050.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
所以在把關上我們真的是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12050.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12052.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
更加的慎重啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12052.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
如果基於不做這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
不做這樣的一個開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
我想真的對國人的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12060.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
其實2月6號公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12060.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12062.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
我們在國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12062.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
已經有公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12064.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
讓我們的公共政策討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12066.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12068.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
我們有公開14天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12068.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
那在WTO我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12070.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
也提出公告給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12072.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
都沒有這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12076.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
剛才我們也很多委員關心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12076.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
你未來對加工廠的選別精管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12078.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12080.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
大家很關心啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12080.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12082.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
如果這些加工廠他們如何去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12082.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12084.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
去檢測出這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12084.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12086.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
發亞的馬鈴薯是不適宜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12086.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12088.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
所以你未來加工廠的選別精管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12088.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12090.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
你將會如何進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12093.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
在加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12095.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
我們會匯同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12097.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12099.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
其實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12099.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12101.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
加工廠指定的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12101.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12103.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
其實我們是準用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12103.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12105.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
那個保稅區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12105.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12107.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
他所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12107.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
標準就是你車子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12111.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
貨運車要出來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12111.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12113.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
要先貼封條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12113.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12115.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
然後GPS |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12115.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
你的能量足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
沒有這完全比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12121.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
這個保稅區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12121.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12123.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
所有都必須要設 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12123.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
因為這個區是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
12125.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
現在就加入這樣一個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12127.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
所以你一定是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12129.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
需要更多的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12131.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
所以你檢驗人力足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12133.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12135.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12135.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
比照過去就沒有這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12139.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
你小心加入一個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12139.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12141.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
比例不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12141.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12143.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
那個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12143.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
12145.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
我們所抽到的太低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12145.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12147.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
0.6而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12147.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
12149.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
所以會增加人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12149.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12151.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
現在你講0.6或許進來的不止0.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12151.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12153.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
這有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12153.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12155.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
好黑數存在啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12155.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
12157.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
市長你們不要太有信心啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12157.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
不是上在美國他要進來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12159.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12161.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
他們美國國內他自己就要做檢驗了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12161.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12163.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
在書面審查我該都看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12163.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12165.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
你不要書面檢疫證明他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12165.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12167.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
提出來你們就同意他進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12167.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12169.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
進來我們才去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12169.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
你才去送到加工廠去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12171.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12173.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
檢測嘛不是不是海關就先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12173.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
檢查了所以美國進來完全是書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12175.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12177.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
的檢測而已嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12177.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12179.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
美國當方面說我這個是合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12179.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12181.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
我這個是沒問題的我這個是沒有發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12182.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12184.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
這個國與國之間的相互談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12184.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12186.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
這個不是隨便寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12186.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12188.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
未照的都不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12188.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12190.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
那好最後一個問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12190.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12192.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
那你們未來到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12192.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12194.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
採取每批都檢驗還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12194.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12196.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
抽樣的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12197.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12199.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
這個問題很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12199.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12201.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
在邊境的話當然是抽樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12201.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12203.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
每一顆都要檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12203.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12205.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
在加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12205.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12207.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
我們是逐批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12207.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12209.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
比如說這個申請人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12209.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
這一批裡面有三個後櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
逐批逐櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
逐顆在加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
我們全部都一顆一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
要樂死啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
謝謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
我們很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
好謝謝我們結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
零四名委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
接下來請羅明才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
大家可以邊用餐謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12240.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12242.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12241.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12243.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
各位人出列習慣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12244.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12246.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
本期對於國人的健康是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12247.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
很堅持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12251.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
健康的破口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12252.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12254.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
絕對零農人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12254.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
到明天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12258.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
相關人員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12257.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12259.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
嘶嘶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12259.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12261.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
威虎部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12262.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12264.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12264.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12266.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
農業部胡市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12266.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12268.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
胡市長嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12267.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
財政部的官務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12271.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12273.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
龐署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12276.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12278.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
記得之前啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12278.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12280.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
有一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12281.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
雞蛋之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12283.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12285.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
雞蛋之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12285.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12287.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
完了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12286.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12288.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
就是塑膠蛋之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12288.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12290.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
現在要突然變成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12294.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
馬鈴薯之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
我們總是要健康治國啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12298.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12300.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
不可以什麼事都是以亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12300.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
然後來治國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12302.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12304.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12304.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12306.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
你會不會讓你亂充有序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12307.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12309.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
民眾不相信啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12309.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12312.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12314.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
就是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12317.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12319.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12319.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12321.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
莊市長喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12322.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12324.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
請問那個小朋友啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12325.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12327.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12327.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
脊椎可以開始吃馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12335.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
副食品應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12335.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
三四歲之後吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
留的兩三歲都開始吃了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12341.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
對阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12341.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12343.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12342.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12344.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
好問題就來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12344.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12346.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
小朋友兩三歲都被餵食的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12346.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12348.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
他怎麼會知不知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12348.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12350.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
馬鈴薯上面有沒有耳發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12350.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12352.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
大人應該都會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12352.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12354.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12354.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12356.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
應該是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12356.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12358.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12359.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
天下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12363.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
無不是的父母 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12364.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12366.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
如果大人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12366.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12368.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
爸爸媽媽自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12367.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12369.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
不帶的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12368.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12370.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
他一定不會拿有發芽的馬鈴薯給他吃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12370.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12372.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12372.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12374.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12375.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12377.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
我們打開報紙每次看到一些都是虐童案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12379.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12381.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12380.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12382.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
你那個保母帶的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12383.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
小朋友如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
每個小朋友都會哭哭鬧鬧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
正常嘛齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
你遇到那個黑心的保母 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12395.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
他就看他小孩子哭哭鬧鬧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12395.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12397.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
他就換了一招 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12397.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12399.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
不打不罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12399.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
他就一直餵他吃有毒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
餵他吃這個發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
這鮮食用的馬鈴薯跟加工用是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12405.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12407.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12409.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
這被他出力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
就是說在這種屬於加工用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12415.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
應該跟你剛剛講的那件是鮮食用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12415.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
應該不太一樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12419.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12420.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12422.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
有的都在說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
小朋友兩歲三歲四歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12425.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12427.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
他什麼會知道說應該是加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12427.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
應該不加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12431.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
對就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12431.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
鮮食的保母 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12435.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
黑心的保母 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12435.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12437.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
一塞過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12437.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12439.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
小朋友傻傻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12439.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12441.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
來的嘴巴就張口啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12441.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
就這樣吃吃吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12443.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12445.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
就吃了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12445.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12447.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
肚子裡面全都是發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12447.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12449.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
吃到怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12449.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12451.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
因為沒有這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12451.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12453.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
這是一個假設的議題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12453.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12455.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
這些市面上事實上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12455.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12457.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
我們都把關的非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12457.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12459.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
跟農業部這邊其實是雙重把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12459.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12461.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
這件事情應該不會發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12461.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12463.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
你要讓國人都相信你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
好那哪一天如果我剛剛講的情況出現的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
你要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12471.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
你說不會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12475.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
這一定是不會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12475.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12477.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
那以用什麼方式來保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12477.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12479.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
絕對不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12479.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12481.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12481.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12483.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
在只要在海關的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12483.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12485.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
農業部有發現有發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12485.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12487.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
我們都就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12487.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12489.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
就是會期待檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12489.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12491.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
200ppm就會把他全都退回海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12493.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12495.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
你講別的就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12495.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12497.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
你講到海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12496.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12498.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
來我講海關的事給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12499.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12501.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
海關叫做關務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12501.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12503.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
黃署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12503.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12505.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
你做的很辛苦喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12504.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12506.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
海關的編制人員現在多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12507.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12509.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
報告委員大概4200個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12510.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12512.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
以前多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12513.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
曾經有到六七千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12513.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12515.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
以前七千人現在四千多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12518.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12520.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
現在海關啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12520.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12522.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
他光是茶劑毒品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12524.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12526.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
茶劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12526.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12530.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
其他的一些什麼電子煙啊等等的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12532.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12534.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
就忙不過來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12534.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12536.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
你要搞死所有海關人員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12538 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12540 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
剛剛莊市長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12540 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12542 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
每一批都要檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12542 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12544 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
每一顆馬鈴薯都要檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12544 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12546 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12545.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12547.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
有渙水摸魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12549.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12548.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
所以每個都要查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12554.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
署長你有辦法每一顆馬鈴薯都查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12554.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12556.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
怎麼查你說給大家聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12556.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12558.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
報告委員這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12558.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12560.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
我們海關還有房檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12560.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12562.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
還有這個衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12562.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12564.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
都有分工啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12564.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12566.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
海關是做這個茶劑走私跟透露關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12566.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12568.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
這是我們的茶劑重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12568.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12570.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
那食品安全的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12570.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12572.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
檢疫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12572.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12574.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
都是由房檢署跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12574.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12576.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
食藥署這邊大家分工來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12577.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
所以馬鈴薯一顆一顆檢查是誰來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12581.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12583.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12582.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12584.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
房檢署是主定法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12587.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
來剛剛都聽了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12587.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12589.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
他現在四千多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12589.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12591.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
編制啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12591.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12593.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
人員已經不足了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12592.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12594.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
其實我們現在海關回來也很辛苦啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12594.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12596.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
以前還沒有什麼非洲豬瘟嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12596.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12598.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
現在有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12598.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12600.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
我看所有的工作人員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12600.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12602.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
沒有他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12602.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12604.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
都有那個檢查啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12604.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12606.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
以前是沒有檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12606.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12608.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
現在國外回來都是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12609.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12611.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
排隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12610.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
檢查有沒有農產品有沒有帶肉品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12614.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
防治非洲豬瘟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12614.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12616.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
已經整死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12616.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
這一些第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
關務署的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
今天要再多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12626.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
好那你剛剛講的是叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12628.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12630.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
錢一署是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12630.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12632.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
房檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12633.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12635.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
來房檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12635.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12637.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
好房檢署是杜署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12637.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12639.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12639.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12641.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
好杜署長請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12641.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12643.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
請問你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12643.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12645.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
你有沒有吃過馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12645.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12647.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
有 我還喜歡吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12647.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12649.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
我很喜歡吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12649.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12651.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
所以我一聽到我就一定要問清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12651.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
不然你在台灣有很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12655.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12657.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
那個炸薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12657.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12659.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12658.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12660.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
或者是那個Hash Brown |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12660.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12662.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
就是薯餅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12663.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12665.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
每次吃我怎麼知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12665.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12667.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
到底有沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12667.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12669.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
現在由你來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12669.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12671.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12672.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12674.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
房檢署喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12674.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12676.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
有多少員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
房檢署大概就五百多個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12677.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12679.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
五百多個人喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12681.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
那如果扣除一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12683.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12685.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
休假 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12685.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12687.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
請假的情況並假 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12687.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12689.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
平常 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12689.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12691.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
在工作崁會上有幾個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12691.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12693.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
報告委員我還分為動物跟植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12693.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12695.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
動物跟植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12695.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12697.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
那你所以馬鈴薯是植物嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12697.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12699.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
你動物扣掉那剩多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12699.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12701.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
那但是報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
現在這個的任務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12705.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
我們大概已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12705.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12707.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
已經在做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12707.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12709.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
所以因為它 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12709.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12711.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
是從高雄分署進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12711.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12713.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
所以我們現在已經在制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12713.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
整個流程跟檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12717.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
那我們會跟食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12717.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12719.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
在第一關CiQS的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12719.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
就嚴格執行這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12721.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12723.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
所以這個馬鈴薯喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12728.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
變成是一個我們防禦的大敵這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12729 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12731 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
那馬鈴薯也好植從高雄關進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12731 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12733 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
大部分都是從高雄關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12733 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12735 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
入關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12735 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12737 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
那從基隆不行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12737 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12739 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
當然可以啊 但我們的標準是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12739 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12741 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
我們的標準一定是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12741 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12743 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
就依照這個標準去做執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12743 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12745 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
那也會執行訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12745 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12747 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
對 沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12747 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12749 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
你講給別人聽聽還可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12749 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12751 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
那一天我才去基隆關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12751 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12753 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
我們去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12753 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12755 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
你有沒有去過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12755 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12757 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
基隆關最近大概就是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12757 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12759 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
觀光貨輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12759 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12761 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
好 不是貨輪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12761 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12763 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
等一下署長再講給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12763 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12765 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
我們去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12765 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12767 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
所有的現在的電子商務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12769.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12771.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
快遞的郵件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12771.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12773.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
你知道一天有多少量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12773.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12775.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
快遞郵件是公務署為主政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12775.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12777.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
那動手的檢疫是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12777.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
來搭配 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12779.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12781.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
好 那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12781 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12783 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12784.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
快遞進來的東西如果裡面有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
夾有一包一包的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
那個薯餅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12791.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12793.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
只要沒有生爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12793.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12795.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
炸薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12795.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12797.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
薯條三兄弟啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12797.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12799.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
如果從那邊進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
那你也查不到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12803.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
報告立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12802.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
我們的是陰屍檢疫項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
那炸薯條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
它不是陰屍檢疫項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12810.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12812.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
我們所有的都是檢疫的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12812.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
那以現在進來來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12814.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
其實生鮮一年大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12816.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
2.7噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12818.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
那主要是涉及病蟲害跟帶土 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12820.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
那其他一年進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12822.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
15噸它包括有冷凍進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12824.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
有調製進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12826.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
那這些有的是做馬鈴薯泥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12828.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12830.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
馬鈴薯澱粉甚至於做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12830.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
其他的用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12832.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12834.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
對 那這個是整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12834.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
跟關稅跟食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12836.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
比較有相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12838.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
所以郭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12840.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12842.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
你的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12842.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12844.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
你們一共有100多個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12846.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12848.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12847.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12849.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
要我們國人來相信你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12849.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12851.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
100個多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12851.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12853.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
可以把這個防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12853.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12855.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
做得滴水不漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12855.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12857.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
不會有發芽的馬鈴薯進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12857.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12859.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
來干擾民眾的健康問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12859.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12861.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12861.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12863.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
這是我們的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12863.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12865.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
我們一定要全力以赴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12865.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12867.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
那另外跟你報告 |
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12867.86 |
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12869.86 |
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非洲豬瘟的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12869.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
那個剛剛講的手檢區 |
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12871.86 |
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12873.86 |
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也是我們負責的 |
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12873.86 |
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12875.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
所以我們也都是這樣子在進行 |
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12875.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
你講的很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12877.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12879.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
你也講的很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12879.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12881.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
可是你要叫國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12881.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
怎麼樣相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12883.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
那成堆成山的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12887.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
然後有你們100多人 |
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12887.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
在把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12889.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12891.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
然後不會出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12891.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12893.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
報告委員剛剛我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12893.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12895.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
這個次長也有講 |
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12895.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12897.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
以去年114年為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12897.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12899.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
那他的不合格率 |
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12899.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12901.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
只有0.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12901.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12903.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
也就是說合格的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12903.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12905.86 |
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都可以通關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12905.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12907.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
但不合格的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12907.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12909.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
我們就會專批 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12909.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12911.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
然後送達指定的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12911.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12913.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
那會提改善計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12913.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12915.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
那在嚴格的要求之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12915.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12917.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
那這個區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12917.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12919.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
會等同或比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12919.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
我們是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12921.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12923.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
的監督之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12923.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12925.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
足跪足批足科來做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12925.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12927.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
足科啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12927.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12929.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
原則就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
對在加工廠的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12934.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
我們的原則就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12934.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
足科的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12938.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
不是新竹那個足科 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12938.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12940.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
足科的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12940.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
一顆一顆要檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12944.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
是我們覺得監督業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12944.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12946.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
來做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12946.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
你講的話說得很漂亮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12950.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
不是這個做是一定要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12950.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12952.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
你一顆一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12952.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12954.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
很難想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12954.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12956.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
你這100多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12956.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12958.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
成千山萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12958.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12960.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
他的身體是一批一批進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12960.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
那一批一批進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12962.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12964.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
以我們現在在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12964.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12966.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
邊境的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12966.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12968.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
其實也是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12968.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12970.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
整個的他的沙網 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12970.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12972.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
頓帶的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12972.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
也是這樣子來檢疫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12976.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
你們有沒有檢討過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12975.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12977.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
到底是誰是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12980.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
Troublemaker |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12980.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12982.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
以前就沒有這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12982.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
為什麼現在如臨大敵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12984.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
然後把一顆馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
變成是大家覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
健康危害的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
一個首惡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12993.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
然後我剛舉那個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
你講得很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
哪一天有個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
13001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
被虐同然後結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
13001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
13003.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
13002.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
13004.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
智商變差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
13004.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
13006.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
或者身體出了狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
13006.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
13008.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
原因就是為他吃有毒的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
13008.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
13010.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
13010.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
13012.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
13012.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
13014.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
我想就有兩個層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
13014.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
13016.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
第一個美方進來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
13016.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
13018.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
就要把關三千 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
13018.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
13020.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
到我們這裡也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
13020.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
13022.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
會嚴格把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
13022.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
13024.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
我們一定不會讓有不合格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
13024.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
13026.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
流入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
13026.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
13028.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
要我們相信100多個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
13028.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
13030.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
相信你講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
13030.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
13032.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
謝謝我們羅明財委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
13032.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
13034.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
接下來請郭國文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
13038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
13040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
謝謝主席有請農業部跟衛福 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
13040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
13042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
那個財政部的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
13046.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
13048.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
那接著是主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
13049.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
13051.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
13050.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
13052.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
13052.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
13054.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
為什麼每次講到這種有爭議性的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
13054.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
13056.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
相關的單位講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
13056.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
13058.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
都像公文一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
13058.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
13060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
就不會用白話文的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
13060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
13062.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
怎麼講都講民眾聽不懂的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
13062.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13064.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
到底出了什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13065.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
民眾聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13069.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13069.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13071.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
所以說一個馬鈴薯的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13071.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13073.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
搞到變成馬鈴薯之亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
我需要問一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13075.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13077.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
那個進口檢疫是財政部是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13077.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13079.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
還是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13079.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13081.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
還是你們防檢局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
檢疫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
是我們負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13088.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
有沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13088.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
13090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
標準有沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
13090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
13092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
那我再問一下檢驗的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
13092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
13094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
有沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
13094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
13096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
這兩個就重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
13096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
13098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
這兩個重點講清楚就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
13098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
13100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
13100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
13102.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
那次長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
13102.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
13104.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
那我再問一下衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
13104.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
13106.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
衛福部最近有一個洗產地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
13106.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
13108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
這個高雄市議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
13108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
13110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
邱于萱的老公 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
13110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
13112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
是大發食材行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
13112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
13114.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
分別進口中國跟越南進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
13114.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
13116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
芝麻跟香菇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
13116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
13118.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
更惡劣的他們是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
13118.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
13120.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
貼為台灣的產地的標籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
13120.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
13122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
這明顯洗產地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
13122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
13124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
賣給高雄的學童來吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
13124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
13126.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
還怪法規誤導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
13127.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
13129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
13129.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
13131.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
這件事情有沒有裁罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
13131.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
13133.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
有這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
13133.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
13135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
溫馳已經罰8萬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13135.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
13137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
還沒有發生這已經發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
13137.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
13139.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
對溫馳已經裁罰8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
13139.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
13141.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
另外因為涉刑法詐欺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
13141.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
13143.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
所以已經移送檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13143.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
13145.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
那我會繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13145.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
13147.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
議員的壓力就把它蓋下來吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
13147.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
13149.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
沒有目前已經送檢調了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
13149.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
13151.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
這已經是發生了事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13151.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
13153.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
這才是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
13153.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
13155.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
大力去裁罰的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
13155.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13157.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
同樣食安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
13157.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
13159.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
怎麼會有兩種標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
13159.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
13161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
實在非常奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
13161.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
13163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
我們請衛福部先回去一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
13163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
13165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
財政部也先回去一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
13165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
13167.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
我請主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
13168.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
13170.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
13171.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
13173.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
主計長 那個腫瘀酸終於開始省了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13173.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
13175.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
這大概破天荒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13175.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
13177.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
最快你覺得刪除的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13177.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
13179.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
大約什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
13179.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
13181.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
上一次的紀錄是6月15日刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
13181.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
13183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
隔一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
13183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
13185.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
你就判斷一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
13185.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
13187.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
這我們希望是盡快能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
13187.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
13189.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
盡快大約嘛 你心裡頭要一個譜嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
13190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
13192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
如果初估這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
13192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
13194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
應該至少是要在6月下旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
13194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
大概多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
13196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
13198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
6月中下旬吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
13198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13200.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
就可以刪除省完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
13198.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
我們希望如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
那6月中下旬是你現在的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
13202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
13204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
那也希望啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13206.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
但是如果是這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13206.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13208.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
牽扯到一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13208.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
執行率的部分怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13212.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13212.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
會不會你到時候執行率就出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13216.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
那明年的這個立法機關立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13216.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13218.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
又說執行率不加給你砍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13218.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13220.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
會不會這種狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13220.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13222.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
因為目前的確會有這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13222.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13224.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
就是說他有一些乾花包的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13224.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13226.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
他可能是因為他經費沒有節序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13226.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13228.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
所以他花包的金額沒有達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13228.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13230.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
他預定的一個額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13230.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13232.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
那現在如果說要趕的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13232.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13234.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
這個部分就是說要盡量去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13234.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13236.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13236.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
這執行率很有壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
可是如果過度的觸動執行率時間有限的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13242.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
品質可能就會有憂慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13242.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13244.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
這個部分也是我們盡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13244.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13246.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
要跟各單位來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13246.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13248.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
請他們來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13248.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13250.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
你還要跟審計部講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13250.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13252.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
到時候這樣寫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13252.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13254.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
不要一直怪行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13254.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13256.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
要寫說因為立法院不審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13256.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13258.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
引起到行政審計部敢不敢這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13258.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13260.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13260.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13262.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
是因為立法院的關係他敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13262.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13264.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
他點頭了你就不用上來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13264.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13266.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
接下來再算了說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13266.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13268.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
那如果是6月的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13268.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13270.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
寶龍津貼 國寶年金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13270.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13272.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
八大社福津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13272.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13274.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
來得及什麼時候送最佳預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13274.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13276.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
民眾都非常期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13276.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13278.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
這三筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13278.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13280.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
兩筆追溯到1月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13280.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13282.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
另外是7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13282.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13284.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
總共的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13284.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13286.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
高達355億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13287.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13289.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
民眾充滿期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13290.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13292.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
如果按照這種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13292.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
那我就再請教一下主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
您預估的這個時辰大概什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13297.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13299.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
我們應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13299.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13301.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
因為現在我們已經開始籌編116年度的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13301.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13303.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
那是明年的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13303.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13305.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
我現在問你追加預算的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13305.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13307.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
追加預算也大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13307.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13309.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
跟他差不多一個期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13309.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13311.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
大概幾月 能不能說個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
大概8月底啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13315.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13317.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
8月送的話 又等到通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13317.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13319.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
民眾是不是要都等很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13319.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13321.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
要等到什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
這個部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
本院非常的勤勞認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13327.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
延會啦 會一直延下去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13327.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13329.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
所以我們還是希望說這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13329.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13331.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
預算的一個115年預算審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13331.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13333.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
能夠快捏預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13333.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13335.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
因為追加預算它不是那麼快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13335.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13337.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
一個能夠通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13337.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13339.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
對我知道 連帶關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13339.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13341.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
穩定物價的一個相關的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13341.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13343.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
而且這還是很順利喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13343.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
你6月的時候中旬通過三讀喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
年度預算喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
接下來你才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13351.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
通過這個追加預算喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13351.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
這前面快後面才會跟著快喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13355.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
但是我也跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13355.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13357.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
勞農年金和國防年金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13357.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13359.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
這些的相關的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13359.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13361.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
他還沒有過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13361.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13363.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
還沒有過喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13363.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13365.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
你看這樣拖下去就更久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13365.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13367.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
不是嗎 相關的條例還沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13367.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13369.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
就拖下去更久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13369.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13371.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
而且你後面還有軍公教加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13371.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13373.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
會不會加薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13372.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
這個人種的那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
他是有這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13378.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
就整體來做一個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13378.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13380.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
也是用追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13380.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
重點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13384.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
這個追加預算會不會一併處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13384.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
一併處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
如果軍公教加薪的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
就跟前面的這個津貼年金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13392.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
一併處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13392.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13394.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
穩定物價的那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13394.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
1300億呢 怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
當然它多少是要看戰爭的一個期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13402.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
那第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13402.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
還要看說補貼的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13406.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
項目的期間到底是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13406.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13408.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
所以必須要行政院做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13408.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
無限期休戰啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
其實又有變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
我們要看行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
整個財勢是怎麼變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13418.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
這1300億不一定會變 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13418.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13420.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
因為目前就已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13420.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13422.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
停戰啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13422.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13424.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
中油的部分還有包括台電 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13424.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13426.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
都有一些支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13426.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13428.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
其實是應該要做一些的填補 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13428.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
已經補貼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
如果有辦追加預算是應該要一次辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
或者是說要辦特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
這必須要看行政院的才是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
所以說這個要怎麼收處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
也是這 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13442.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
一般就是說我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13442.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13444.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
能夠在8月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13444.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13446.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
也就是說呢 三大福利軍公教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13446.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13448.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
加薪一併在8月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13448.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13450.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
已經可能把它提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13450.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13452.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
因為軍公教加薪比較不確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13452.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13454.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
軍公教加薪這個部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13454.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13456.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
比如說要看人種這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13456.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13458.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
我真的不想沒有辦法幫你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13458.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13460.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
但是人種已經在朝向這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13460.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13462.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
我本席就再叫你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13462.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13464.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
除了這個預算之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13464.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13466.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
中央發債的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13466.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13468.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
目前只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13468.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13470.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
4億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13470.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13472.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
以行公債的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13472.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13474.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
也就是說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13474.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
整個省計部之前提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
財政部在推動非營業基金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
發行永續發展債券的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13482.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
兩年多一件都沒有辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13483.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13485.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
終於有一件要辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13485.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13487.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
結果發現多少 4億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13487.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
那我們去看一下台北市桃園高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13489.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13491.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
合計起來多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13491.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13493.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
284億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
就很奇怪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
現在到底是中央比較缺錢還是地方比較缺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
明明財法法過了之後我們就少了4千多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
我們完全不緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13503.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13502.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13504.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
這是怎麼一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13504.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13506.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
為什麼省計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13506.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13508.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
提出的報告中央不理不睬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13508.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13510.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
是不是吃大鍋飯習慣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13512.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
大家想說預算邊邊就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13514.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13516.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
不用另外去籌組裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13516.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13518.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
不用去找銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13518.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13520.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
你去想一想喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13520.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13522.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
你這4億一放出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13522.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13524.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
馬上就被搶空了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13524.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13526.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13526.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13528.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
因為我們公債的發行量很低嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13528.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13530.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
所以你永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13530.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13532.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
基金的這個發行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13532.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13534.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
很多銀行很多金融機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13534.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13536.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
或者是郵政處去馬上會來搶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13536.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13538.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
你應該透過這部分來彌補 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13538.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
現在你的預算不足這個不是最好的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13540.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
主席長是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13542.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13544.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
這個部分比較偏財政是不是請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13544.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
好財政部來請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13546.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13548.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
等一下等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13548.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13550.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
還有你還有你等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13550.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
不好意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13554.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
我一直以為是你誤會你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13554.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
來那個軟次來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13558.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13557.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13559.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13559.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13561.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
現在目前中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13561.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13563.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
中央跟地方都一直在推 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13563.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13565.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
中央目前就只有一筆是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13565.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13567.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
4億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13567.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13569.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
有一筆是高雄的航空站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13569.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13571.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
以前出產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13571.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13573.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
大家也做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13573.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13575.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
心不甘情不厭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13575.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13577.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
現在永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13577.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13579.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
基金的債券其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13579.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13581.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
發展起來其實更容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13581.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13583.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
因為很多人搶手 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13583.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
永續發展債券基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
現在我們要做一個什麼樣的誘因跟機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
來要求中央相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
單位來發行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
我們現在是這樣先請就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
除了中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
跟金管會還有貴買中心合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13599.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
來尋找暗源之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13599.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13601.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
既然你上了台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13601.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13603.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
剛剛主席長就說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13603.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13605.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
你是主政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13605.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13607.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
一個月之內你要提一個什麼辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13607.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
來鼓勵中央相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
來發行這個永續發展債券 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13613.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
來籌措這個資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13613.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13615.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
你面對現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13615.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
預算不足的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
用一個月的時間好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
我們繼續來推 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
我們已經在推了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
已經在推還不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
你如何刺激他們給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
業績壓力KPI |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
怎麼樣的方法讓他們能夠提早 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
提出來好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
謝謝委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
最後一個部分主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
你看我們要求地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
地方政府有個災害準備金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
要總預算1% |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
一般而言這個災害準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
本行為什麼這麼退而 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
在北部相對比較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
動用到災害準備金可是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
中南部的部分1% |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
往往都不足往往不足的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
都會跟中央來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
爭取可是中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
要求地方1%可是中央變多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13665.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
中央政府變0.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13667.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13671.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
照說這至少要變303.5億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13672.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13674.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
缺口足足差了250億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13675.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
那個主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
這個災害準備金要多變一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
不是說我們要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
這反倒是備而不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13684.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13686.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
你都要求地方1% |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13686.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
為什麼中央不能多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13688.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13690.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
不然我們還跑去民間募款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13690.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13692.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
大家搶食中央的這一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13692.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
稀少的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13694.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13696.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
而不夠的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13696.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13698.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
卻責任下放到給其他的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13698.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13700.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
包括民意代表給一些民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13700.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
這不對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13702.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
你這個應該多變一點啦主席長你的看法怎麼樣能不能說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13704.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
我們已經逐年在增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13706.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13708.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
以前才變20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13708.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13710.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
速度不夠啦我知道之前20億現在50億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13710.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
那以前他只有對地方有規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13712.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13714.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
對我知道還為無其為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13714.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13716.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
現在中央責任越來越大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13716.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13718.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
之前中央不都下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13718.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13720.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
指揮手嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13720.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13722.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
不夠的部落可以從第二一部進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13722.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13724.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
你們現在責任越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13724.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13726.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
現在已經全國不分區了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13726.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
災難所有的地方中央政府跟地方政府都要下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13728.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13730.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13732.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
朝下改變的方式來處理好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13732.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13734.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
雖然我們是在砍預算的可是這一條不能審 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13734.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13736.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13736.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13738.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
謝謝郭國榮委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13738.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13740.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
接下來請陳毓貞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13746.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13748.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
謝謝主席請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
待會兒審計部跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
審計長陳審長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
還有農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
農業部胡正次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
上一會我們有提到離島公共工程的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
我們有請主計總處跟這個工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
開會啦就是說你們要來討論說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
離島公共工程的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13771.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
營建成本現在規定是多三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13773.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
對以前是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13775.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
30%嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13777.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
就是說讓他不要做限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13779.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
就不做限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13781.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
我有看到你們給我回覆說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13783.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
是不做限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13785.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
不做限制可能你也要在這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13787.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
法律或辦法裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13789.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13791.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
比如說你的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13791.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13793.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
公共性費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13793.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
116年度就做這樣一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
對要寫在裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13799.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
因為如果你完全不做限制到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13799.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
市長基層的公務員有時候什麼事也不敢做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13803.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
這個部就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13803.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13805.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
比較明確比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13805.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
地方來實際訪查嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
應該怎麼做給一個辦法寫在裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
對我們會參照公共工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
委員會給的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
然後把它列入我們預算編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13817.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
一個標準裡面來做規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13819.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
是因為原來事實上在116年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13821.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
開始本來就有寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13825.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
可以有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13825.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
一些搬家單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13827.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
如果有特殊需求可以續免旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
但這個是例外嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13831.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
但是我們金門的例外這麼多就已經變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13833.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
一個常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13835.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
我是希望在你們的辦法裡頭比較明確一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13837.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
讓地方工程在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13839.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
不管招標不會說招標12次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13841.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
留標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13843.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
每次一直提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
款項一直增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13847.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
也做不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13849.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
工程的延宕除了時間成本以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13851.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
事實上預算也越來越高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13853.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
事實上是對政府反而不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13855.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
麻煩你在今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13857.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
116年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13859.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
這個公共性費用編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13861.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
我們會做一個預準表把它寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13863.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
或者做一個比較明確的函式也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13865.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13867.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
好這個麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13867.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13869.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
謝謝主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13869.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13871.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
那接著我們請這個審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13872.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13874.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
你好辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13877.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
這個我們金門地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13877.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
有很多這個以前是實行戰地政務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
那戰地政務的時候比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
有很多隱形的地雷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13885.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
比如說軍方國防部國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13885.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13887.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
像我們現在施工環島南路來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13887.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13889.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
很多有比如說廢棄的軍用油管 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13889.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13891.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
就國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13891.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13893.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
在當初有做一些軍事設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13893.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
那後來沒有用以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
應該理論上是國防部的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
應該去把它拆除 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
那我們金門現在在做一些相關的施工的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13903.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
遇到一些軍用的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13903.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13905.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
要嘛有的要保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13905.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13907.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
要嘛有的要拆除 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13907.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13909.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
那這些東西這個光部並沒有編列專款專用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13909.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
都是由這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
地方政府在跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
申請這個離島建設基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
來做這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13919.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13919.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13921.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
比如說這個廢棄油管來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13921.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13923.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
以這樣來講是來做這些拆除的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13923.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13925.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
那離島建設基金是要幫助離島建設發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13925.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13927.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
那這些東西是國防部當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13927.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13929.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
它遺留下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13929.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13931.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
那這個邏輯上來講當初這遺留下來也是國防部的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13931.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
那國防部本身其實是有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
是不是請省級部可以督促這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13937.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
我們國防部可以落實這個責任的這個法理原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13942.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13944.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
他們留下來的東西他們應該編專款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13944.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13946.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
比如說幾年內你把它清掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13946.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13948.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
就像以前清地了一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13948.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
不能再有不要再有離島建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13950.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13952.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
因為離島建設現在已經是比較少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13952.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
那要做離島的建設發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13954.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13956.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
那這個國防部並不是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13956.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
預算嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13958.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13960.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
它有預算嘛它可以專用編列一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13960.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13962.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
幾年的比如說五年的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13962.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13964.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
清除計畫針對當初的戰地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13964.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13966.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
政府的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13966.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13968.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
的那些設施嘛這個是讓符合國有財產法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13968.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
其實管理機關應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13970.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
維護管理廢棄的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
當初是軍方管的金門是軍方管 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
所以設施也是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
買下來的那他們現在就應該把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13980.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
清除那當然也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13980.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13982.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
為由地方代辦但這個裁員的部分是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13982.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
省級出來協助要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
好謝謝依照國防部的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
是國防部的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
所以我們已經喊請國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
查明第二個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
省級部會做聯合省級因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
牽涉國防部也牽涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
金門地方政府所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
14000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
聯合省級就是由我們第二廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
14000.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
14002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
國防廳和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
14002.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
14004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
金門省級處聯合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
14004.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
14006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
把這個問題做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
14006.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
14008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
徹底的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
14008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
14010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
14010.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
14012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
我想你們當外很有力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
14012.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
14014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
也很有執行力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
14014.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
14016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
也做得很好請你們就是多多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
14016.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
14018.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
督促國防部好到府員的意思來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
14018.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
14020.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
謝謝您好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
14020.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
14022.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
現在請農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
14022.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
14024.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
農業部特別是這個動植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
14024.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
14026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
有房間署的署長也有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
14026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
14028.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
14029.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
14031.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
這個您看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
14031.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
14033.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
金門是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
14033.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
14035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
市長也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
14035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
14037.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
農糧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
14037.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
14039.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
14039.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
14041.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
你以前在農糧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
14041.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
14043.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
署長是也是我們這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
14043.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
14045.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
講防疫今天要講這個防疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
14045.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
14047.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
金門是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
14047.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
14049.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
台澎金中華民國一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
14049.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
14051.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
日本是外國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
14051.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
14053.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
但是你看同樣發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
14053.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
14055.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
這個牛結節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
14055.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
14057.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
牛結節診這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
14057.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
14059.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
日本的牛有牛結節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
14059.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
14061.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
金門的牛有牛結節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
14061.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
14063.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
14063.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
14065.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
有安全規範世界安全規範說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
14065.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
14067.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
谷歌機是一個安全產品這沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
14067.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
14069.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
你們的態度是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
14069.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
14071.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
日本的牛有牛結節可以進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
14071.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
14073.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
不受限制但是金門的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
14073.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
14075.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
有牛結節就全面封殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
14075.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
14077.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
不能進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
14077.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
14079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
你們是不是對外國比對自家人還寬容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
14079.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
14081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
同樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
14081.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
14083.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
金門的牛不能進來但是日本的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
14083.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
14085.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
可以進來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
14086.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
14088.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
14087.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
14089.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
就金門牛不能進來台灣本島 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
14090.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
14092.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
來為了謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
14092.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
14094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
謝謝陳委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
14094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
14096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
那事實上因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
14097.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
14099.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
以金門來講確實是對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
14099.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
14101.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
這個大陸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
14101.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
14103.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
太鄉近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
14103.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
14105.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
你是因為距離近嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
14105.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
14107.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
是因為距離所以因為金門的距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
14107.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
14109.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
很多東西都要被限制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
14109.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
14111.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
陳委員我再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
14111.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
14113.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
現在以目前來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
14113.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
14115.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
你們每次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
14115.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
14117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
不管是牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
14117.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
14119.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
或是群牛一旦你們都說因為我們距離大陸近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
14119.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
14121.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
所以什麼東西都不能進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
14121.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
14123.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
要不要建議中央把我們化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
14123.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
14125.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
化到哪一邊去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
14125.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
14127.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
14127.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
14129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
我還是要再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
14129.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
14131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
就以最近在講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
14131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
14133.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
我先問你日本的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
14133.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
14135.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
怎麼可以進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
14135.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
14137.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
像日本的牛節節整的牛可以進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
14137.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
14139.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
不上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
14139.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
14141.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
金門的牛真的不能進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
14141.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
14143.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
我現在再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
14143.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
14145.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
是因為在金門他的牛級的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
14145.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
14147.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
並沒有落實跟徹底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
14147.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
14149.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
沒有落實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
14149.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
14151.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
你看我現在到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
14151.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
14153.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
這個還是我們的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
14153.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
14155.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
我可以進一步再跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
14155.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14157.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14157.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
有都有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14161.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
我們有注射率98牛節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14161.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14163.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
注射率94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14163.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
耳標的這個叮掛已經快要百分之百了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
你們是要要求到百分之百是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
報告委員確實他在牛級的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
上有很多放牧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
那個地方確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
是沒有辦法完全掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
那所以我請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
你有沒有完全掌握到日本的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14181.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
每一隻牛都有做耳標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14181.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14183.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14183.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14185.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
我們只要你這樣標準就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14185.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14187.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
這個的部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14187.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14189.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
日本有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14189.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14191.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14191.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14193.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
有查產地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14193.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14195.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
日本的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14195.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14197.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
我不要管你產地 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
14197.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14199.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
難道你要求是百分之百的耳釘掛牌嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14199.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
14201.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
這是你們的要求嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
14201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
14203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
這個是不是你們的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
14203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
14205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
聚目法的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
14205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
14207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
這就是牛如果金門牛要開放要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
14207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
14209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
這個標準我可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
14209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
14211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
反正你要要求的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
14211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
14213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
我不是不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
14213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
14215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
那就接著我們看怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
14215.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
14217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
第一個外國進口牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
14217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
14219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
你也必須要一樣的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
14219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
14221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
這個是這樣要求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
14221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
14223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
你不要讓我到日本去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
14223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
14225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
我們沒有去查產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
14225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
14227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
而且他輸入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
14227.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
14229.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
是非異點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
14229.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
14231.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
非異點他一定要符合國際規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
14231.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
14233.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
才有可能他的牛會進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
14233.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
14235.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
國際規範牛節節整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
14235.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
14237.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
金門的牛不能進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
14237.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
14239.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
但是日本的牛不受限 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14239.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14241.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
所以你先告訴我你的標準在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14241.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14243.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
我們照標準做沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14243.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14245.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
我們會配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14245.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14247.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
最近口蹄疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14247.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14249.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
以大陸來講又新型的口蹄疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14249.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14251.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
大陸跟我什麼關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14251.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14253.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
兩岸太密切了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14253.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14255.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
那台灣也離大陸很近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14255.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
台灣也離中國大陸非常近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
所以為了保護整個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
我們一定要有所作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14263.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
不是你不要把金門從台灣切開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14263.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
金門就台澎金馬的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
我們是就防疫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
角度上看它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14271.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
國際規範牛要進一公里就要進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14271.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14273.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
一百公里進不進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
日本離大陸也很近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
我沒有騙你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14276.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
我先跟你討論解決方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14278.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14280.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
我想自主溯源系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14282.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
是不是第一個我們農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14284.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
來協助做自主溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14286.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
所有的金門的牧場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14288.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
我們地方政府會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
地方政府協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
在預算上面你們看是不是要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14294.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
什麼溯源系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14296.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
QR code 雲端資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14298.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
履歷證明這個請你們編列相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14300.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14302.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
我們在討論經費的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14302.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14304.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
怎麼進來你不編列經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14304.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14308.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14308.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14310.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
這個真的也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14310.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14312.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
你們不編列經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14312.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14314.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
你們是不想讓這個產業活 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14314.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14316.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14316.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14318.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
因為有很多的事在裁劃法以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14318.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14320.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
是在地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14320.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14322.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
你們編列經費不給人家一條路走 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14322.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14324.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
你就不支持這個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14324.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14326.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
依照裁劃法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14326.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14328.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
分配原則去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14328.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14330.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
你又不幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14330.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
14332.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
又要限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
14332.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
14334.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
我們願不願意幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
14334.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
14336.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
我們願意接受輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
14336.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
14338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
你們願不願意幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
14338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
14340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
預算相關這方面幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
14340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
14342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
地方政府去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
14342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
14344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
你們沒有錢是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
14344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
14346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
14346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
14348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
需要多少錢我幫你從別的地方省下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
14348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
14350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
我幫農業部從別的地方省下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
14350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
14352.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
我們到審議室的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
14352.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
14354.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
我看你需要多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
14354.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
14356.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
我看你哪一個部會的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
14356.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
14358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
比較浪費我們三下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
14358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
14360.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
跟這邊做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
14360.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
14362.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
14362.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
14364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
日本的牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
14364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
14366.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
你們每一隻都有耳標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
14366.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
14368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
這你說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
14368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
14370.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
我們有一個有耳標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
14370.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
14372.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
但是他出口的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
14372.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
14374.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
他一定要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
14374.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
14376.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
我們這張談判的檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
14376.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
14378.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
金門是國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
14378.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
14380.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
金門是國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
14380.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
14382.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
你們每次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
14382.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
14384.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
觀念都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
14384.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
14386.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
情流感的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
14386.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
14388.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
我講情流感好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
14388.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
14390.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
金門沒有情流感 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
14390.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
14392.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
屏東哪裡都有情流感 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
14392.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
14394.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
金門的雞蛋也不能來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
14394.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
14396.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
你們每次都說因為金門離中國大陸比較近 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
14396.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
14398.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
你們根本就把金門當作是家人來看待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
14398.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
14400.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
14400.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
14402.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
我們的防疫角度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
14402.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
14404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
我們是依照風險的高低 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
14404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
14406.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
制定不一樣的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
14406.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
14408.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
而且我們跟他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
14408.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
14410.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
作戰體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
14410.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
14412.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
14412.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
14414.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
作戰體系是一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
14414.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
14416.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
你們跟日本作戰體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
14416.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
14418.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
金門跟台灣作戰體系沒有一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
14418.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
14420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
我講的是在國內所有的我們的防疫體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
14420.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
14422.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
是在大家都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
14422.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
14424.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
同一個水平上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
14424.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
14426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
為什麼日本的牛可以進來你這樣回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
14426.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
14428.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
為什麼金門牛一樣標準金門牛不能進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
14428.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
14430.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
我還是在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
14430.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
14432.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
因為地理定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
14432.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
14434.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
就是因為地理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
14434.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
14436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
那這一題等於病蟲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
14436.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
14438.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
因為金門島就是奔不走 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
14438.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
14440.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
我們來協助好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
14440.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
14442.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
協助可以啊別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
14442.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
14444.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
我們來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
14444.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
14446.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
看這個層面其實不一定只有經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
14446.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
14448.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
經費是最基本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
14448.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
14450.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
是最低協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
14450.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
14452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
那這樣我們可以協助我們一定都幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
14452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
14454.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
14454.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
14456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
請陳醫生委員再辦考察去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
14456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
14458.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
14458.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
14460.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
我們結束陳醫生委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
14460.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
14462.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
接下來請鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
14463.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
14465.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
大家盡量保持安靜邊吃邊當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
14465.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
14467.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
保持安靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
14478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
14480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
主席有請主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
14480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
14482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
14482.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
14484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
好請主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
14484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
14486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
沈計長請陳沈計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
14489.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
14491.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
14494.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
14496.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
我們看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
14496.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
14498.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
延兵會115年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
14498.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
14500.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
14500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
14502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
跟114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
14506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
來做比較的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
14506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
14508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
是增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
14508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
14510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
7223萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
14510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
14512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
14512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
14514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
7223萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
14514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
14516.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14518.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
14518.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
14520.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
這樣的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
14520.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14522.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14523.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
14525.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
我們就以幾個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14525.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
14527.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
幾個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14527.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14529.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
原住民族住宅四年三期計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14530.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
這個行政院核定的計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
14532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
114到117年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
14536.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14538.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
建構及修繕住宅的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14538.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
14540.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
每年是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
14540.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14542.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
1億3800萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14543.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14545.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
但是115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14546.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
只有編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
14548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14550.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
4730萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14551.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14553.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
14552.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14554.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
9070萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14554.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14556.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
這麼重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14556.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14558.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
尤其是我們原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
14559.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14561.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
住宅自由利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
14561.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14563.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
跟一般國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14563.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
少了少了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14566.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14568.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
請問一下主席長你了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14574.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14593.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
7億多不是7千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14598.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
7億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14598.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
7億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
72233萬5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14604.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
72233萬5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14604.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14608.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
增加這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14610.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14612.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
卻是這麼重要的民生需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14614.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14616.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14617.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14619.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
卻是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14618.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14620.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
少了少了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14621.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14623.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
這個請主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14623.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14625.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
我們再查明一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14625.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14627.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
不只是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14627.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14629.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
跟民生減少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14629.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14631.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
你們回去去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14631.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14633.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
到底什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14634.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14636.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14637.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
老錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14636.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14638.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
又亂花 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
這個跟主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
省級長也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14642.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14644.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
主席長跟持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14644.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14646.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
這個主席長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14645.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14647.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
原住民族委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14647.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14649.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
從114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14649.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14651.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
7年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
事辦所謂的公法人事辦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14655.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14657.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14659.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
以這個115年度來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14660.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14662.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
每個部落事辦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14662.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14664.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
一個部落120萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14666.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14668.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
去年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14668.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14670.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
今年提高到120萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14672.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
這樣才一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14674.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14676.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
事辦計畫違反原住民族基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14678.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
因為它多用的是原住民族中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
根本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14682.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
原住民族中和發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14686.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
按照基本法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14686.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14688.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
是沒有這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14690.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14692.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
就業基金也不符合原住民族工作權保障法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14695.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14697.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
就業基金的自用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
相關的這些尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14702.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14704.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
按照原住民族基本法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14704.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
14706.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
第二條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
14707.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
14709.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
PC out |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
14708.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
14710.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
病病 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
14710.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
14712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
原民會必須要訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
14712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
14714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
部落之核定組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
14714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
14716.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
部落會議之組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
14716.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
14718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
結議程序及其他相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
14718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
14720.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
14720.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
14722.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
必須要先訂這個法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
14722.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
14724.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
才可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
14725.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
14727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
成為部落公法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
14727.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
14729.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
現在根本就沒有這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
14729.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
14731.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
都沒有發布啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
14732.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
14734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
你去辦你去示範什麼用呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
14735.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
14737.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
被示範的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
14737.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
14739.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
被示範的部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
14739.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
14741.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
他沒有公法的地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
14741.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
14743.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
如何能有成效呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
14743.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
14745.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
所以這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
14746.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
14748.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
14747.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
14749.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
主計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
14749.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
14751.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
如果一個部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
14751.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
14753.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
120萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
14754.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
14756.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
如果這個法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
14756.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
14758.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
公布發布施行之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
14758.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
14760.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
你知道原住民有多少部落嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
14761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
14763.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
700多個部落 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
14763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
14765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
你有辦法自付那麼多錢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
14766.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
14768.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
14768.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
14770.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
所以要請省計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
14771.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
14773.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
要查核要審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
14773.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
14775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
14775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
14777.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
14777.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
14779.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
給他的效益怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
14779.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
14781.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
我們已經在查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
14781.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
14783.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
效益不符合啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
14783.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
14785.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
我們會提出我們的審計意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
14785.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
14787.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
我們去做了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
14787.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
14789.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
14789.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
14791.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
再請審計長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
14791.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
14793.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
就這個部落公法人示範計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
14793.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
14795.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
詳細的再回覆鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
14795.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
14797.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
14797.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
14799.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
請林茜琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
14800.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
14802.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
林茜琪不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
14802.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
14804.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
接下來請羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
14810.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
14812.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
有請財政部阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
14812.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
14814.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
農業部胡次長及衛福部莊次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
14816.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
14818.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
胡次長莊次長阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
14831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
14833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
14832.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
14834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
我想請教阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
14834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
14836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
進口馬鈴薯將會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
14836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
14838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
整櫃檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
14838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
14840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
每一顆拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
14840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
14842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
檢查請問這句話誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
14843.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
14845.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
14845.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
14847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
我先問你這句話誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
14849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
14851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
我演劇有Code錯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
14851.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
14853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
14852.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
14854.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
阮次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
14854.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
14856.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
這個我不太清楚是誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
14856.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
14858.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
但是我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
14858.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
14860.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
胡次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
14860.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
14862.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
你也不太清楚是誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
14863.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
14865.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
我沒有在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
14865.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
14867.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
但是我據旁邊的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
14867.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
14869.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
卓院長有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
14869.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
14871.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
如果進到加工廠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
14871.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
14873.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
有花牙的我們會足科 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
14873.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
14875.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
我演的就是卓院長原劇啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
14875.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
14877.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
當然你們後面怎麼補充我們待會來看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
14877.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
14879.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
14879.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
14881.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
那我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
14881.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
14883.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
每年進口馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
14883.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
14885.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
大概多少公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
14885.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
14887.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
14886.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
14888.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
15萬公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
14888.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
14890.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
對當中生鮮跟加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
14890.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
14892.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
2萬7千公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
14892.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
14894.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
其他的13多萬公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
14894.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
14896.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
那個是調製的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
14896.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
14898.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
或者是已經做成這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
14898.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
14900.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
馬鈴薯泥了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
14900.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
14902.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
這個冷凍進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
14902.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
14904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
那15萬公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
14904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
14906.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
大概是多少顆馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
14906.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
14908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
那個已經變成加工那個就不是一顆一顆進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
14908.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
14910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
如果一顆一顆進來是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
14910.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
14912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
2萬7千公噸的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
14912.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
14914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
大概是將近1億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
14914.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
14916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
1億顆嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
14916.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
14918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
那我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
14918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
14920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
那檢查如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
14920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
14922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
檢查一顆要花多少時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
14922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
14924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
檢查用機器這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
14924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
14926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
讓它滑動的話很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
14926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
14928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
14929.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
14931.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
我們到底要怎麼做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
14931.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
14933.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
把這一億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
14933.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
14935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
都拿來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
14939.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
14941.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
農業部不是講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
14941.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
14943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
最後還是講2%到多少% |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
14943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
14945.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
農業部是60% |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
14945.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
14947.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
衛福部的話他們剛才是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
14947.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
14949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
所以做得到每一顆拿來檢查做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
14949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
14951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
那個檢查是在進到我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
14951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
14953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
14953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
14955.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
還沒有讓它合格可以加工之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
14955.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
14957.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
我來回頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
14957.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
14959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
來做比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
14959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
14961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
那我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
14961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
14963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
這個我們知道馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
14963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
14965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
發芽會有龍葵減毒素 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
14965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
14967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
所以過去的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
14967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
14969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
是不是一發芽腐爛就整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
14969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
14971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
14972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
14974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
過去的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
14974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
14976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
我們是負責檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
14976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
14978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
那龍葵減的部分那個是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
14978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
14980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
我講的是只要有發芽腐爛就整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
14980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
14982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
過去的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
14982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
14984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
14984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
14986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
那現在新的ART變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
14986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
14988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
出現發芽或品質異常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
14988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
14990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
不再一律整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
14991.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
14993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
而是要改到送到指定加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
14993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
14995.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
來區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
14995.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
14997.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
足顆來檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
14997.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
14999.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
就是來進行選別把發芽腐敗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
14999.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
15001.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
或發霉的個體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
15001.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
15003.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
剔除並整顆銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
15003.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
15005.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
對如果嚴重的話也是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
15005.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
15007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
整塊都退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
15007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
15009.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
那我想問你啊這算不算放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
15009.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
15011.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
以前的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
15011.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
15013.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
就是整批退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
15013.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
15015.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
沒有放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
15015.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
15017.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
沒關係我們就看國人怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
15017.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
15019.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
事實上你可以看到一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
15020.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
15022.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
過去食物商為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
15022.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
15024.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
採取有發芽腐爛就整櫃退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
15026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
15028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
因為我們政府有這個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
15028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
15030.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
有這個能力去逐批足顆篩選嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
15030.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
15032.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
現在有這個能力跟條件嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
15034.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
15036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
所有的做法是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
15036.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
15038.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
一樣的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
15038.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
15040.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
整批退運跟進來足批篩選是一樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
15040.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
15042.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
在邊境我們是邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
15042.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
15044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
檢查完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
15044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
15046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
如果有發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
15046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
15048.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
我們生產業部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
15048.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
15050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
我告訴你啦放寬就是放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
15050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
15052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
你放寬之後改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
15052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
15054.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
做法要的是食安品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
15054.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
15056.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
的把關那是後面在講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
15056.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
15058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
可是你不要連第一段你都想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
15058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
15060.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
要矇騙今天消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
15060.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
15062.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
沒有因為如果只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
15062.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
15064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
現在不僅沒有整批 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
15064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
15066.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
退嘛你把腐爛發芽的篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
15066.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
15068.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
責任請交給誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
15068.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
15070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
這個是交給誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
15070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
15072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
衛福部就交給你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
15074.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
15076.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
15076.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
15078.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
只要有發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
15078.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
15080.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
農業部他們當然會把它剔除掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
15080.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
15082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
那這一批沒有發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
15082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
15084.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
我們會去檢驗他的農魁鹼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
15084.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
15086.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
超過200BPM一樣整批 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
15086.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
15088.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
把它退貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
15089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
15091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
你剛說腐爛發芽就要交給 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
15091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
15093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
衛福部不是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
15093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
15095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
發芽腐爛還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
15095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
15097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
發霉這個是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
15097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
15099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
他們還會去檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
15099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
15101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
誰篩選誰篩檢本來誰篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
15101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
15103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
現在誰篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
15103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
15105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
林先生所講的那個是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
15105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
15107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
15107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
15109.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
15109.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
15111.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
加工廠去了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
15111.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
15113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
不是那個還沒有入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
15113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
15115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
那個必須要在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
15115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
15117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
我要先舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
15117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
15119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
過去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
15119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
15121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
在邊境檢查有把整批 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
15121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
15123.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
貨櫃內每個物品都拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
15123.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
15125.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
每個馬林鼠拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
15125.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
15127.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
以前我們是全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
15127.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
15129.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
所有的進口的馬林鼠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
15129.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
15131.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
百分之六十我們做法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
15131.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
15133.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
百分之六十抽檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
15133.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
15135.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
人力不允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
15135.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
15137.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
答對了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
15137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
15139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
過去人力不允許才會有所謂整批退的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
15139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
15141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
你現在跟我講你改變做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
15141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
15143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
那請問你要擴編多少人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
15143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
15145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
國際上每一個國家都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
15145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
15147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
不是只有台灣啦這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
15147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
15149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
我告訴你食安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
15149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
15151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
折扣沒有拿什麼國際不國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
15151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
15153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
台灣食安標準變寬了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
15153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
15155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
你後面的責任要多多人去加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
15155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
15157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
是後面的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
15157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
15159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
所以最後我還是很快結論結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
15159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
15161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
15161.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
15163.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
做不到就不要亂承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
15163.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
15165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
一顆一顆怎麼檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
15165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
15167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
一億顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
15167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
15169.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
15169.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
15171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
我們會一顆一顆檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
15171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
15173.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
因為發芽率只有百分之六 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
15173.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
15175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
這是我們過去的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
15175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
15177.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
所以一發芽我們會百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
15177.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
15179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
那個是絕對沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
15179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
15181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
謝謝我們結束劉志強委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
15181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
15183.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
接下來請楊崇英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
15195.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
15197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
謝謝主席楊崇發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
15197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
15199.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
我們直接請農業部財政部跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
15202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
15204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
阮市長 胡市長 莊市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
15214.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
15216.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
15216.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
15218.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
這個政府到底是怎麼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
15219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
15221.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
一個馬鈴薯發芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
15221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
15223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
明明就是以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
15223.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
15225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
只要有看到發芽的整櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
15225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
15227.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
被毀或者是整櫃銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
15229.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
15231.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
15231.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
15233.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
為了這個NTE ART |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
15234.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
15236.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
在談判的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
15236.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
15238.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
到底是誰答應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
15238.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
15240.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
食安是沒有退路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
15240.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
15242.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
食安也是絕對是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
15242.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
15244.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
零容忍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
15245.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
15248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
那到底是誰決定要退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
15248.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
15250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
退讓這個食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
15250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
15252.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
15251.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
15253.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
原本是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
15253.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
15255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
只要櫃子裡頭有一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
15255.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
15257.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
就整個銷毀或者是整個退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
15257.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
15259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
那現在決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
15261.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
15263.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
只要把那個發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
15263.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
15265.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
或者是爛的丟掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
15265.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
15267.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
但是以適時尺為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
15267.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
15269.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
40丘的一顆好幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
15269.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
15271.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
進來有幾萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
15271.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
15273.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
有幾顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
15273.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
15275.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
這是25噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
15275.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
15277.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
15277.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
15279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
8萬3千多顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
15279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
15281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
8萬多顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
15281.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
15283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
那在這個密閉式空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
15283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
15285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
在運送的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
15285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
15287.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
那他那顆爛掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
15287.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
15289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
潛伏期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
15288.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
15290.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
1到3天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
15290.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
15292.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
嚴重的是7天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
15292.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
15294.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
那你把那一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
15293.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
15295.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
這個到這個離選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
15295.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
15297.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
離別的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
15298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
15300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
這個工廠裡頭去選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
15300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
15302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
那請教誰選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
15302.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
15304.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
現在台灣的量體有幾家可以選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
15304.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
15306.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
15306.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
15308.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
自己選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
15308.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
15310.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
有何個幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
15310.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
15312.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
有何個幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
15312.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
15314.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
有何個幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
15314.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
15316.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
那個不是合格不合格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
15316.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
15318.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
那個是必須要申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
15318.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
15320.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
你先申請就給你申請才可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
15320.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
15322.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
15322.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
15324.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
15324.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
15326.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
15326.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
15328.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
來衛福部幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
15328.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
15330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
講了快兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
15330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
15332.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
沒有辦法讓民眾清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
15332.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
15334.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
15334.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
15336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
進口的業者有21家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
15336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
15338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
那離選的這個工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
15338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
15340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
15340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
15342.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
發覺有一顆爛掉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
15342.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
15344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
你要送到這個工廠去離選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
15344.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
15346.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
15346.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
15348.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
目前有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
15348.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
15350.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
請問目前有幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
15350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
15352.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
目前不合格只有兩家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
15352.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
15354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
我們有在驗而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
15354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
15356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
一個40尺的墨櫃就有8萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
15358.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
15360.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
我們只有兩家你住得來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
15360.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
15362.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
你住得來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
15362.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
15364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
你住得來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
15364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
15366.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
一年我們進口的有15萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
15366.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
15368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
事實上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
15368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
15370.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
業者要給你改造計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
15370.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
15372.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
那這個部分就是我們衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
15372.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
15374.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
會跟這邊會決督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
15374.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
15376.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
所以目前有兩家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
15377.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
15379.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
你可以幫你離選的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
15379.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
15381.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
報告委員在邊境查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
15381.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
15383.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
不合格就退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
15383.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
15385.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
那剛才所問到的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
15385.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
15387.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
如果要到一個指定場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
15387.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
15389.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
那指定場所就衛福部來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
15389.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
15391.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
曾經有申請過指定場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
15391.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
15393.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
是有兩家業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
15393.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
15395.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
曾經來申請過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
15395.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
15397.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
曾經來申請過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
15397.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
15399.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
建檔還可不可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
15399.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
15401.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
還可不可以幫你離選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
15401.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
15403.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
我們在當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
15403.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
15405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
不合格當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
15405.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
15407.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
我們在地區提改善計畫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
15407.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
15409.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
就衛生局就是現場查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
15409.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
15411.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
這個在食品衛生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
15411.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
15413.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
是業者有需要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
15413.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
15415.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
15415.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
15417.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
衛生局是監察 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
15417.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
15419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
這個是食品衛生安全的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
15419.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
15421.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
那你說你沒有退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
15421.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
15423.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
以往你只要查到一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
15423.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
15425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
絕對整櫃退 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
15425.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
15427.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
現在重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
15427.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
15429.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
是在查到一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
15429.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
15431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
把那個爛的拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
15431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
15433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
其他的可以來篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
15433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
15435.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
甚至有告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
15435.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
15437.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
我們會一顆一顆來篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
15437.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
15439.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
你有這個能力嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
15439.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
15441.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
你們有這個能力嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
15441.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
15443.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
15443.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
15445.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
您剛才所問的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
15445.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
15447.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
是檢疫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
15447.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
15451.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
我剛才所說明是食品衛生安全當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
15451.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
15453.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
我們先從第一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
15453.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
15455.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
為什麼已經兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
15455.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
15457.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
還是沒有辦法給我們的民眾講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
15459.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
15461.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
誰可以回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
15462.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
15464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
誰可以回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
15464.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
15466.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
15466.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
15468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
在目前美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
15468.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
15470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
如果實用跟加工的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
15470.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
15472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
他會在今年的七月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
15472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
15474.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
到明年之間他才會進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
15474.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
15476.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
不管進不進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
15476.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
15478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
政府已經告訴你二月份公告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
15478.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
15480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
對我們已經準備配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
15480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
15482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
我們跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
15482.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
15484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
兩個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
15484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
15486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
15486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
15488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
正在討論當中很快就會定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
15488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
15490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
正在討論當中很快就會定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
15490.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
15492.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
還沒定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
15492.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
15494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
昨天前天大前天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
15494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
15496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
這幾天告訴我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
15496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
15498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
叫我們放心一顆一顆檢查會落實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
15498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
15500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
做得來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
15500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
15502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
做沒問題啊這個可以做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
15502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
15504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
一顆一顆檢查沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
15505.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
15507.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
花芽的進到加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
15507.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
15509.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
不是這個好幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
15509.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
15511.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
一一顆不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
15511.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
15513.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
花芽的進到加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
15513.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
15515.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
一顆一顆檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
15515.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
15517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
15517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
15519.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
沒有錯啊進到加工廠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
15519.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
15521.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
進到加工廠的部分過去是只有0.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
15521.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
15523.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
就是進口的0.6才會有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
15523.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
15525.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
檢到才會有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
15525.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
15527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
那檢出來0.6到這個指定加工廠之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
15527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
15529.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
到這個指定加工廠之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
15529.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
15531.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
我們就會去請這個加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
15531.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
15533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
他要有監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
15533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
15535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
他現在可以跟你領選的這兩家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
15536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
15538.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
有來申請的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
15538.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
15540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
你一定要詳實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
15540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
15542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
讓民眾到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
15542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
15544.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
我們只有一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
15543.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
15545.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
食安的問題絕對不能退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
15545.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
15547.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
15547.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
15549.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
你告訴我們目前的方案你的人力夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
15549.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
15551.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
我們要請問這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
15551.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
15553.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
在加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
15553.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
15555.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
挑選啊用機器挑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
15555.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
15557.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
由他們加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
15557.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
15559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
派專員然後用監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
15559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
機器還是要有人去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
15561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
15563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
有人去操作啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
15563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
15565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
專人監督啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
15565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
15567.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
所以我們一個結論也就是食安的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
15567.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
15569.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
15569.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
15571.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
一定是零容忍不可以馬虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
15571.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
15573.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
沒有錯我們都是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
15573.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
15575.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
第二個我們絕對不贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
15575.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
15577.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
整櫃裡頭有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
15577.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
15579.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
這個馬鈴薯發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
15579.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
15581.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
因為其他的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
15581.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
15583.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
不是那一顆挑掉就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
15583.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
15585.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
其他的交互感染的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
15585.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
15587.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
那個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
15587.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
15589.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
龍葵檢或者是相互感染的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
15589.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
15591.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
發委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
15591.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
15593.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
只要他那一批有發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
15593.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
15595.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
我們都會去抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
15595.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
15597.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
只要有驗出龍葵檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
15597.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
15599.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
200ppm以上都會退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
15599.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
15601.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
整批都會退運 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
15602.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
15604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
所以本席在這邊還是強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
15604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
15606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
校園的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
15606.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
15608.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
我們絕對是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
15608.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
15610.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
一定要把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
15610.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
15612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
國人的食安我們也一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
15612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
15614.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
強制安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
15614.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
15616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
你們到目前為止所有的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
15616.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
15618.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
沒有一個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
15618.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
15620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
可以說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
15620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
15622.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
所以讓國人非常的憂心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
15622.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
15624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
所以我們希望你剛剛又給我們透露一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
15624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
15626.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
現在才農業部跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
15626.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
15628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
衛福部在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
15628.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
15630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
你們的方案本席個人希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
15630.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
15632.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
你們要好好地去把你的方案弄出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
15632.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
15634.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
謝謝楊創業委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
15634.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
15636.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
你真的你要推浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
15636.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
15638.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
你還是要把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
15638.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
15640.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
因為至少你的食品做出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
15640.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
15642.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
你的薯條薯片你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
15642.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
15644.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
正式把它貼上嘛我這個來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
15644.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
15646.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
是有經過這個櫃子裡頭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
15646.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
15648.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
是有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
15648.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
15650.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
發芽的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
15650.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
15652.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
含有發芽的部分所剔除的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
15652.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
15654.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
這個原食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
15654.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
15656.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
讓民眾可以安心嘛可不可以這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
15658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
15660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
可不可以這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
15660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
15662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
這個是後市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
15662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
15664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
可不可以這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
15664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
15666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
根本進不到加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
15666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
15668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
就被挑掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
15668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
15670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
他人潛伏期嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
15669.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
15671.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
所以到現在還是講不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
15671.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
15673.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
把你們的方案趕快提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
15673.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
15675.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
謝謝楊創業委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
15675.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
15677.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
跟以前一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
15677.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
15679.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
我們等一下委員會有臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
15679.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
15681.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
請練習的委員把握時間4分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
15681.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
15683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌鍾嘉斌委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
15683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
15685.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
接下來請郭奕勤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
15693.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
15695.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
15695.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
15697.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
那這個有請農業部的房間署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
15697.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
15699.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
還有那個衛福部的需要署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
15699.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
15701.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
15702.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
15704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
衛福部莊次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
15704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
15706.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
需要署菜賦署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
15707.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
15709.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
一 二 三 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
15709.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
15711.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
我 農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
15711.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
15713.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
胡次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
15714.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
15716.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
15715.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
15717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
好 我想這個馬鈴薯的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
15717.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
15719.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
大家問了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
15719.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
15721.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
我就另外一個問題也是我一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
15721.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
15723.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
追對這個問題 我想今天剛好兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
15723.44 |
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15725.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
部會的這個主責會單位其實都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
15725.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
15727.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
有包含我們的房間署 包含我們的需要署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
15727.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
15729.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
都在 我剛剛才從8樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
15729.44 |
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15731.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
上來 那剛剛也質詢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
15731.44 |
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15733.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
這個衛福部部長 雖然我們這個動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
15733.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
15735.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
新藥是7月1號我們確定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
15735.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
15737.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
之前要註銷了 這已經確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
15737.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
15739.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
註銷了 但是現場我收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
15739.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
15741.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
許多來自一線的動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
15741.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
15743.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
醫師 獸醫師他們還是在跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
15743.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
15745.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
目前已經有一些所謂的藥廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
15745.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
15747.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
已經開始傾向所謂的選擇性的供貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
15747.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
15749.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
也就是說他們開始在擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
15749.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
15751.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
過去我人用的藥品我現在可以用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
15751.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
15753.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
但是現在已經開始他們因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
15753.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
15755.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
法規的不清楚 因為配套的不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
15755.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
15757.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
因為我們的管理機制不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
15757.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
15759.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
所以他們現在開始藥廠限縮了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
15759.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
15761.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
也會影響到整個所有的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
15761.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
15763.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
毛小孩他們在就醫的一個權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
15763.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
15765.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
那我就要請問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
15765.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
15767.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
如果就像剛剛這個衛福部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
15767.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
15769.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
他提供給我的這個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
15769.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
15771.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
我們今天早上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
15771.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
15773.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
一進辦公室就說了這個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
15773.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
15775.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
他說我們回到所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
15775.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
15777.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
這個用藥的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
15777.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
15779.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
我們回到緊急用藥的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
15779.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
15781.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
但是我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
15781.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
15783.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
15785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
15787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
食藥署 你知道這個用藥平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
15787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
15789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
申請流程大概要多久嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
15791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
15793.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
可以告訴我我要多久嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
15793.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
15795.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
如果我今天毛小孩在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
15795.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
15797.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
躺在那邊要等著急診請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
15797.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
15799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
等到所謂的緊急用藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
15799.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
15801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
要申請的平台請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
15801.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
15803.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
大概完整下來要多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
15803.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
15805.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
好 兩到三週對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
15805.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
15807.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
15807.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
15809.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
剛剛申請的部分是請國外進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
15809.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
15811.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
請問一下我的毛小孩躺在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
15811.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
15813.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
我兩天都等不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
15813.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
15815.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
我兩個小時都不能等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
15815.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
15817.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
我要等兩到三週我是不是直接打給 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
15817.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
15819.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
寵物殯葬業比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
15819.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
15821.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
15821.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
15823.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
一直關注這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
15823.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
15825.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
這個問題為什麼今天剛好兩個都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
15825.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
15827.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
我們也在檢討就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
15827.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
15829.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
因為全聯會會將 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
15829.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
15831.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
我下午就會在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
15831.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
15833.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
我會開一個一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
15833.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
15835.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
獸醫師他們來到現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
15835.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
15837.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
反應這樣子的一個困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
15837.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
15839.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
因為這個問題三天兩頭就會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
15839.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
15841.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
對 我們好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
15841.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
15843.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
負面表列願不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
15843.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
15845.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
為什麼我講正面表列跟負面表列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
15845.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
15847.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
現在我們採用的是正面表列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
15847.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
15849.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
正面表列我舉例一百種可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
15849.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
15851.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
但一百種之外的我每一個都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
15851.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
15853.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
每一個如果新加進來的都要申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
15853.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
15855.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
對不對 是 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
15855.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
15857.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
負面表列是什麼 負面表列我只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
15857.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
15859.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
匡列 不管是食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
15859.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
15861.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
還有獸醫師他們有共同的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
15861.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
15863.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
我把不能驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
15863.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
15865.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
先匡進來 剩下的讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
15865.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
15867.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
他們可以回歸到他們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
15867.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
15869.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
有用藥的自主權 可以有調劑權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
15869.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
15871.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
這個部分的負面表列有這麼難嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
15871.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
15873.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
15873.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
15875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
這涉及到人用藥的部分到底他的母數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
15875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
15877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
有多大 我才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
15877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
15879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
現在已經回到一萬多張的藥證 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
15879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
15881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
所以這個的母數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
15881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
15883.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
太大 而且主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
15883.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
15885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
在人用藥這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
15885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
15887.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
他們專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
15887.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
15889.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
如果大家都有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
15889.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
15891.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
本位主義的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
15891.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
15893.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
還是要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
15893.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
15895.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
人藥就是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
15895.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
15897.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
動物用藥就是我們農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
15897.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
15899.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
15899.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
15901.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
兩邊是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
15901.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
15903.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
中間這一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
15903.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
15905.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
的空窗級請問到底誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
15905.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
15907.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
要來負責下午我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
15907.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
15909.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
來做談會好好地聽一聽可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
15909.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
15911.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
可以請聽一線的聲音嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
15911.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
15913.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
不然這種事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
15913.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
15915.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
三天兩頭就會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
15915.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
15917.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
我的辦公室已經疲於奔命了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
15917.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
15919.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
整個立法院大概只有我在追這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
15919.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
15921.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
但問題是我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
15921.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
15923.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
三百四十萬隻的寵物 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
15923.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
15925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
我有兩百多萬的四組的一個家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
15925.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
15927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
我擔心的還有一線獸醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
15927.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
15929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
他們沒有用藥自主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
15929.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
15931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
藥師公會他們還要再加進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
15931.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
15933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
一個莫名其妙的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
15933.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
15935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
我們到底這件事情可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
15935.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
15937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
撐多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
15937.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
15939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
謝謝委員真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
15939.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
15941.22 |
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打重心你真的謝謝委員的關注跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
15941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
15943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
現在七百三十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
15943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
15945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
已經到七百三十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
15945.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
15947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
那七百三十一項公告為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
15947.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
15949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
就整個轉為動保用藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
15949.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
15951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
所以大概這個項目轉為動保用藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
15951.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
15953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
但是因為我們大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
15953.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
15955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
動保用藥我們的這個族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
15955.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
15957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
是比較小的所以藥廠開始有考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
15957.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
15959.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
過去這動保的用藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
15959.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
15961.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
我有的是可以用人藥來做代替 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
15961.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
15963.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
比方說疏義就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
15963.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
15965.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
現在因為這個限制下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
15965.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
15967.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
我人藥變成獸醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
15967.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
15969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
是他不能取用人藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
15969.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
15971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
所以我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
15971.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
15973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
負面表列才能夠根本解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
15973.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
15975.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
這樣的問題我們一起來研議好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
15975.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
15977.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
各方的意見我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
15977.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
15979.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
各方意見我們都來收集尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
15979.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
15981.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
下午兩點就在樓下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
15981.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
15983.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
一起來討論好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
15983.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
15985.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
謝謝主席謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
15985.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
15987.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
謝謝我們先說郭議員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
15987.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
15989.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
蔡英瑜蔡正前蔡正前不在蔡英瑜蔡英瑜蔡英瑜委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
15989.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
15991.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
蔡英瑜蔡英瑜蔡英瑜委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
15991.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
15993.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
葉源之葉源之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
15993.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
15995.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
葉源之委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
15995.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
15997.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
好我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
15997.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
15999.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
今日登記發言的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
15999.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
16001.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
都已經詢答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
16001.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
16003.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
現在開始處理臨時提案共議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
16003.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
16005.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
請醫事人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
16007.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
16009.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
按鈕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
16008.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
16012.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
原農業部動植物防疫檢疫署於115年2月6日公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
16012.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
16016.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
美國產交工用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
16016.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
16018.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
將交工用與先食用分流管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
16018.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
16023.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
就前者規定發芽發霉腐爛者將直送指定交工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
16023.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
16026.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
並於選別階段整顆器制銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
16026.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
16029.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
違查該新制製相關配套卻複製缺乳 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
16029.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
16032.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
孔筍及民眾食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
16032.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
16034.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
諸如農業部雖於尋答時表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
16034.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
16036.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
現有17家交工業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
16036.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
16039.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
違確未能說明以申請為指定交工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
16039.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
16041.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
之數量與檢疫量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
16041.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
16044.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
黃潤放行押運等配套機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
16044.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
16046.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
再者就指定交工廠之管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
16046.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
16048.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
農業部故認為得以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
16050.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
16055.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
職務防疫檢疫法第17條第一項及同法第24條第一項第6款規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
16055.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
16059.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
處3萬至15萬元罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
16059.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
16060.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
然該規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
16061.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
16066.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
乃繫客與輸入人或其代理人申請與完成檢疫義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
16066.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
16068.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
而非對指定交工廠之管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
16068.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
16070.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
而有誤用法令之予 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
16070.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
16073.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
此外對交工用馬鈴薯之查驗比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
16073.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
16075.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
行政院卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
16075.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
16079.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
曾稱我們會整櫃檢查每一顆拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
16079.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
16081.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
據農業部卻抵觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
16081.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
16083.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
卓院長榮泰之指示宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
16083.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
16086.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
及其對民眾食品安全之重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
16086.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
16089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
謹願每批抽驗60% |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
16089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
16093.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
顯著商行政院關係食品安全之政策方針 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
16093.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
16096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
原要求農業部於7日內就上開問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
16096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
16100.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
向立法院財政委員會提出交工用馬鈴薯進口檢疫配套作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
16100.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
16105.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
包刮蛋不限於指定交工廠之資格條件管理規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
16105.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
16108.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
法院依據及查驗比例之精進作為書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
16108.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
16112.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
提案人李彥秀、羅明采、林思敏、陳玉貞、劉舒斌 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
16112.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
16113.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
16116.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
16119.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
好 請問一下對於這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
16119.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
16121.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
那個陳玉貞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
16121.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
16123.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
我覺得是不是我們應該要寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
16123.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
16126.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
按照這個卓院長的宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
16126.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
16128.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
就是說進櫃的時候整櫃檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
16128.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
16130.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
每一顆拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
16130.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
16131.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
照這個方式去執行嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
16131.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
16134.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
這院長的莊重的宣示吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
16135.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
16137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
我們要求他執行的時候這樣做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
16137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
16139.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
報告的時候是不是有請他寫這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
16139.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
16141.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
就是到時候進來的時候每一櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
16142.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
16144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
整櫃檢查每一顆拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
16144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
16145.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
這樣國人才能放心嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
16145.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
16146.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
國人就不要進口啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
16148.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
16151.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
好 呃 卓院長的文字那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
16152.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
16153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
農業部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
16153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
16155.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
對不對 卓院長是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
16155.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
16157.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
整櫃檢查每一顆拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
16157.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
16158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
這個非常好的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
16158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
16160.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
事實上應該是要讓他不能進來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
16163.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
16164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
對啊 發押了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
16166.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
16167.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
要改成發押的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
16170.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
16171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
可是發押者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
16171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
16172.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
報告主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
16172.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
16173.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
報告主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
16173.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
16175.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
院長他所講的是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
16175.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
16176.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
經過因為有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
16176.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
16177.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
所以我們進到加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
16177.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
16179.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
那個我們是絕對要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
16179.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
16181.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
怎麼可以進到加工廠再來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
16181.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
16182.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
你要進到加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
16182.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
16184.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
那個加工廠還是在境外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
16184.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
16185.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
還沒有進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
16185.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
16186.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
那個如果說有花芽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
16186.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
16187.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
有花梅 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
16187.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
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或者是有唬爛的話 |
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那個挑掉一顆都不能進加工廠啊 |
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所以即使到加工廠 |
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其實他那個還是在保稅區裡面 |
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就是還沒有入境 |
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保稅區裡頭還沒有入境啊 |
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對對對 |
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你挑掉那些 |
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不表示其他沒有挑掉 |
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也沒有被感染啊 |
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那個我是看獨立專家寫的 |
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所以因為我們在邊境上的時候 |
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0.6% |
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所以你們要在這個 |
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主任院長說每一顆都要檢查 |
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對啊 它是有花芽的啊 |
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有花芽的我們是每一顆 |
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不是 你沒有檢查 |
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怎麼知道它有沒有發芽啊 |
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就是因為檢查檢查到的時候 |
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我們才要每一顆啊 |
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所以整個櫃子 |
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櫃子裡頭有一顆 |
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有一顆就要全部整櫃 |
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每一顆每一顆檢查 |
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對對對 |
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但是不能入境喔 |
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不是 就在境外啊 |
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那個是在保稅區裡面 |
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就是保稅區裡頭會有加工廠是吧 |
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是是是 |
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保稅區現在就有加工廠了 |
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現在有加工廠 |
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有一些加工廠本身就有加工廠 |
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那所以如果沒有在保稅區裡頭 |
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加工廠就沒有辦法 |
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我們會要求跟保稅區一樣的 |
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這個要求的標準 |
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不是不是 他都進不來 |
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怎麼要求呢 |
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不是 因為現在的狀況是 |
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他已經進不來了嘛 |
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照你的說法 怎麼要求 |
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不是 有一些保稅區 |
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就是在加工廠裡面耶 |
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就是他進過半個數 |
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所以如果有的加工廠沒有在保稅區內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
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你怎麼要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
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16261.68 |
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那個我們會要求他們全部都要用監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
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然後要用 |
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所以你已經讓他入境了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
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這樣子你還是讓他入境了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
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那個還沒有 |
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那個我們還沒有簽發 |
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沒有在加工 |
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16268.68 |
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沒有在保稅區的加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
16268.68 |
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16269.68 |
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你要怎麼讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
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我們要求他完全跟保稅區一樣的這個條件 |
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所以還是有入境啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
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因為他沒在加 |
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保稅區裡頭 |
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那個沒有入境 |
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因為我們檢疫證沒有發的話 |
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他不能去做加工 |
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還沒有發 |
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16281.68 |
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對 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
他東西已經入境 |
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但在那個標籤上還沒有入境啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
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16284.68 |
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對對對 |
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16286.68 |
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所以實體已經入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
16289.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
但是在法律程序上他還沒有入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
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16290.68 |
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還沒有入境 |
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而且我們沒有簽發檢疫統一書 |
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那這樣的話他就不能夠 |
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你們為什麼一定要讓發芽的進來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
16298.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
為什麼不就讓他在海外就不要讓他進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
16300.68 |
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為什麼要那麼檢驗能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
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你們太辛苦了吧 |
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因為那個是加工 |
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在加工廠裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
16304.68 |
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你們為什麼要讓發芽進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
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你們沒有那麼 |
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你們的量能沒有那麼大 |
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我們今天一個牛呢 |
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你都沒有預算可以幫我們做 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
16311.68 |
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你有多少預算可以做這個事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
16311.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
16313.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
有多少預算檢查每一顆馬鈴薯 |
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這個是因為我們每一年需要量很多 |
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而且那個發芽率很低 |
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其實要量很多 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
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你就沒有那麼多人可以檢查 |
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你的量能做得好 |
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那發芽率很低 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6390].end |
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你如果說一顆檢到整個 |
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給人家退回去的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
16327.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
在國際上的貿易談判上的話 |
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有很多的國家就說 |
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你這樣我也要求你這樣 |
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所以你不會檢到一顆 |
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就把他檢閉退回去就對了是嗎 |
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過去目前在先實用的是這樣子 |
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不會就對了 |
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所以如果有一顆發芽 |
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你也不會退到整顆回去喔 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
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在先實用的是這樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
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就是這樣子喔 |
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所以發芽也是可以進來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
發芽也不可以進加工廠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
意思就是說講清楚一點 |
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如果整顆檢查到有一顆發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
16350.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
16352.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
你們整櫃每一顆拿出來檢查對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
16352.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
16353.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
16353.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
16354.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
先實的就退了就退了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
16354.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
16357.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
但是如果他是用加工用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
16357.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
16358.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
加工用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
16358.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
16360.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
而檢到有一顆他發芽的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
16360.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
16361.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
16361.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
16362.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
先實的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
16362.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
16364.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
檢到有一顆有發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
16364.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
16365.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
就整櫃退是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
16365.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
16366.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].start |
16366.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
16367.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
OK好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
16367.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
16368.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
那如果是加工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
16368.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
16369.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
檢查到有一顆有發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
16369.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
16372.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
你就整櫃每一顆都會檢查對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
16372.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
16373.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
都會檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
16373.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
16375.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
這個檢查量能是由你們檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].start |
16375.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
16376.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
還是由加工廠來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
16376.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
16377.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
16377.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
16378.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
所以你是要給民間好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
16378.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
16379.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
所以這個檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].start |
16379.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
16381.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
你是負於民間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
16381.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
16382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
不是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
16382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
16384.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
公務部門檢查嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].start |
16384.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
16385.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
不是我們去監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
16385.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
16386.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
我們也會派人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
16386.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
16387.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
你們就是監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
16387.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
16389.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
但是用加工廠來檢查就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].start |
16389.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
16390.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
所以我們的食安要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].start |
16390.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
16392.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
依賴在加工廠的道德良性上面喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].start |
16392.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
16393.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
16393.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
16394.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
這個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
16394.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
16396.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].text |
你不要這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].start |
16396.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
16397.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].text |
會不會害死人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].start |
16397.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
16398.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].text |
沒有沒有不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
16398.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
16399.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
大家都去抗議加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
16399.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
16401.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
不是抗議加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
16401.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
16402.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
你們要監督嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
16402.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
16403.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
16403.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
16404.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
你們沒有量能嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
16404.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
16406.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
你們要監督我相信你們會監督嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
16406.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
16407.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
那加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
16407.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
16409.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
一顆一顆檢查嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
16409.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
16410.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
16410.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
16411.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
但是你們不一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
16411.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
16412.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
你們沒有量能一顆一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
16412.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
16414.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
就是說公務部門沒有量能一顆一顆檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
16414.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
16416.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
但私部門可以這樣做對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
16416.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
16417.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
16417.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
16418.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
所以我們當然是要依賴私部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
16418.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
16419.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
要有這個良心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
16419.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
16421.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
16421.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
16423.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
那個會有監視器監督啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
16423.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
16424.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
而且我們到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
16424.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
16426.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
看他這樣分類是不是清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
16426.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
16427.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
16427.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
16429.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
我們才會合法檢疫證啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
16429.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
16431.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
就是他監督了那個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
16431.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
16432.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
那當然還有沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
16432.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
16433.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
剛好看到的時候剛好睡著覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
16433.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
16434.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
剛好眼睛沒有睜開 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
16434.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
16435.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
那一顆又跑過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
16435.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
16436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
不會啦不會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
16436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
16437.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
不會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
16437.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
16438.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
不會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
16438.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
16439.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
不會嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
16439.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
16440.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
一進來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
16440.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
16441.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
我們都是消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
16441.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
16442.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
我也可能輸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
16442.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
16443.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
委員也可能輸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
16443.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
16444.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
對沒錯啊沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
16444.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
16445.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
所以你為什麼要讓他進來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
16445.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
16447.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
你為什麼要增加自己的麻煩呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
16447.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
16448.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
就不要讓他進來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
16448.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
16449.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
16449.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
16450.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
就全部退回去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
16450.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
16451.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
也沒有讓他進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
16451.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
16452.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
為什麼要分先實跟加工呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
16452.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
16453.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
就全部退回去不就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
16453.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
16455.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
一了百了一勞永逸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
16455.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
16457.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
其實就是這一次這樣分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
16457.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
16460.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
分類以後把篩選的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
16461.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
16463.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
放在加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
16463.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
16465.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
那就依賴他的道德良心嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
16465.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
16466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
我相信他們有良心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
16466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
16467.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
我不是說他沒有良心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
16467.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
16468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
不是那個要在指定地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
16468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
16471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
不是說他隨便在他的房間裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
16471.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
16472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
我知道我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
16472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
16473.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
就是按照一顆一顆這樣過去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
16473.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
16474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
16474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
16475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
他有時候也有疏忽嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
16475.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
16476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
也不一定啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
16476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
16477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
因為檢疫力不會百分之百啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
16477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
16478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
正常啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
16478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
16480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
但是我們會去做最後的檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
16480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
16481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
你們會去做我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
16481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
16482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
那你們就不會百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
16482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
16483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
如果我們直接就把他退回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
16483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
16485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
我們不就沒有擔心這回事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
16485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
16487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
因為雙方的談判到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
16487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
16488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
他們也可以這樣保護我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
16488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
16489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
那就是談判談的不好嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
16489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
16490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
為什麼要做這種談判呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
16490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
16491.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
為什麼不做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
16491.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
16492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
國內的食安最重要呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
16492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
16494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
你可以把金門牛說距離位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
16494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
16496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
金門牛地理位置進都可以不用進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
16496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
16497.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
你談判就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
16497.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
16498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
台灣已經進到全島了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].start |
16498.89 |
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16500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
我們食安把關倒退 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
16500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
16501.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
因為口蹄壓不住嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
16501.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
16502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
跟我們說口蹄壓不住 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].start |
16502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
16503.89 |
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啊對我不反對你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
16503.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
16504.89 |
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我不承認啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
16504.89 |
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16505.89 |
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我不反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
16505.89 |
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16506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
你口蹄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
16506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
16507.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
我不反對嚴格喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
16507.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
16508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
我不反對嚴格喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
16508.89 |
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16509.89 |
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我支持嚴格喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
16509.89 |
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16510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
你如果口蹄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
16510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
16511.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
我支持嚴格你嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
16511.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
16512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
你主要給我嚴格嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
16512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
16515.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
為什麼全台灣的食安會可以不要嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
16515.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
16516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
我沒有反對你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
16516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
16517.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
你阻止喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
16517.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
16518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
我說你們要輔導嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
16518.89 |
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16519.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
請問啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
16519.89 |
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16520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
我不反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
16520.89 |
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16521.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
我不反對真的我不反對嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
16521.89 |
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16523.89 |
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嚴格是食安我非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
16523.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
16524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
那馬鈴薯不重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
16524.89 |
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16525.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
很重要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
16525.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
16526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
加工產品不重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
16526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
16527.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
都很重要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
16527.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
16529.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
有一顆有犯了就是退回去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
16529.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
16530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
16530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
16531.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
我們再談不然回去再談啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
16531.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
16532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
因為這兩國談的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
16532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
16534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
因為我們馬鈴薯也有出口啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
16534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
16535.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
16535.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
16536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
再談嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
16536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
16539.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
國會也會要求我們同樣的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
16539.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
16541.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
國會給你壓力你不能回去再談嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
16543.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
16544.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
我們要給你壓力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
16544.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
16545.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
國際的談判喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
16545.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
16546.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
國際的談判不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
16546.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
16548.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
所以就是因為你們沒有辦法談判說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
16548.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
16549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
老百姓可以承受這個風險嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
16549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
16552.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
委員大家都很重視食品安全跟風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
16552.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
16553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
16553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
16554.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
但是要尊重專業啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
16554.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
16555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
尊重專業就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
16555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
16558.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
反正就是說老百姓要承受這個風險就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
16558.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
16560.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
你也是說老百姓承受風險嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
16560.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
16562.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
這個絕對是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
16562.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
16564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
絕對是沒有風險的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
16564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
16565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
我們才會去答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
16565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
16566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
沒有風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
16566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
16567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
你保證沒有風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
16568.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
16569.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
最低的風險啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
16569.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
16570.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
最低的風險啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
16570.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
16571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
最低的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
16571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
16572.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
不是沒有風險嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
16572.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
16574.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
但是沒有風險是我們共同的目標啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
16574.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
16577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
沒有風險就是讓他不要進來就完全沒有風險嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
16577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
16578.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
16578.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
16580.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
我們也會照顧到國會的待遇啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
16580.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
16581.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
我們的出國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
16581.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
16582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
你們幹嘛要那麼辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
16582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
16584.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
你們幹嘛要那麼辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
16584.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
16586.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
增加你們的量能你們很辛苦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
16586.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
16589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
談不好的人回去再好好談到好嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
16589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
16590.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
國會給你壓力嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
16590.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
16591.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
我們尊重國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
16591.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
16592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
老百姓給你壓力嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
16592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
16594.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
你的意見我們非常尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
16594.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
16595.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
我們也會帶回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
16595.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
16597.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
做在這個政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
16597.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
16600.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
我覺得他開放2月6號這個公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
16600.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
16601.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
回到經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
16601.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
16603.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
看這個公告是不是到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
16603.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
16605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
會拉回經濟委員會去做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
16605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
16606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
去做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
16606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
16608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
因為這個不屬於在我們財委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
16608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
16610.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
但是我們財委會的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
16610.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
16612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
我們今天就是做這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
16612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
16615.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
但他這個公告的內容是屬於在經濟委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
16615.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
16618.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
那如果我們回到經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
16618.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
16620.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
把他拉回來做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
16620.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
16624.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
因為從今天的這個專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
16624.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
16625.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
還有大家質詢的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
16625.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
16629.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
仍舊對於他未來能夠在加工的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
16629.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
16631.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
去做怎麼樣的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
16631.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
16633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
把責任丟給民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
16633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
16635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
還有地方的稽查人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
16635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
16636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
有沒有這麼多的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
16636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
16638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
其實這個對實案來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
16638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
16640.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
還是有很大的漏洞跟恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
16640.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
16642.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
那這個我想國人自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
16642.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
16644.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
國人都看得到這整件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
16644.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
16646.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
我們今天就先就這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
16646.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
16649.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
看在文字上大家有什麼樣的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
16649.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
16651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
我們先來去做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
16651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
16652.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
16652.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
16653.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
16653.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
16655.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
文字上你拿來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
16655.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
16659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
是文字上我們已經跟助理已經有交換過意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
16659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
16661.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
好那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
16661.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
16662.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
那我們七天內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
16662.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
16664.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
你稍微唸一下你希望做什麼樣的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
16664.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
16666.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
有修正的部分就是在提案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
16666.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
16668.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
一二三四五 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
16668.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
16669.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
第六行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
16669.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
16671.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
現有17加工業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
16671.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
16673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
事實上是17進口業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
16673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
16676.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
那個加工是不是把它改成進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
16677.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
16679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
那另外再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
16679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
16680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
往下的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
16680.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
16681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
16683 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
16684 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
倒數第六行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
16684 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
16685 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
倒數第六行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
16685 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
16686 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
第幾行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
16686 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
16687 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
一二三四五 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
16687 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
16688 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
16688 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
16689 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
第七行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
16689 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
16691 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
稱我們會整櫃檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
16691 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
16693 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
每一顆拿出來檢查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
16693 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
16694 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
前面是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
16694 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
16695 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
就加上三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
16695 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
16696 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
16696 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
16699 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
等一下這個前面是行政院佐院長龍太承稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
16699 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
16701 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
佐院長有說發芽的這幾個字嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
16701 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
16702 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
他如果有你就可以寫啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
16702 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
16703 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
有啊他的意思就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
16703 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
16704 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
你不能改他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
16704 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
16705 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
你不能改他的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
16705 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
16706 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
16706 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
16707 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
甚至上做話可以加字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
16707 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
16709 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
這個他就是發芽進到那個加工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
16709 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
16710 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
他有這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
16710 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
16711 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
他有這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
16711 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
16712 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
他有沒有這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
16712 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
16713 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
葛市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
16713 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
16714 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
葛市長這樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
16714 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
16715 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
16715 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
16717 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
這是佐院長講的話你不能給他改啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
16717 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
16719 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
他有說發芽的沒有整櫃檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
16719 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
16720 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
當時我想葛院長都不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
16720 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
16721 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
他的意思就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
16721 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
16722 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
16722 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
16723 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
在加工廠裡面啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
16723 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
16724 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
他有沒有這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
16725.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
16726.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
16725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
16726.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
主委院長有沒有這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
16726.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
16727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
主委院長沒有講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
16727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
16729.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
主委院長是我們會整櫃檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
16729.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
16731.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
每一顆都會拿出來檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
16731.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
16732.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
他的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].start |
16732.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
16733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
你不能把主委院長的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
16733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
16734.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
你怎麼可以自己解釋啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
16734.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
16737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
全世界全世界在海關沒有百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
16737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
16738.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
每一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
16738.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
16740.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
所以你說的是主委院長說的話是做不到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
16740.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
16741.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
主委院長他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
16741.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
16742.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
我現在只是引述他的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
16742.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
16743.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
他的意思就是發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
16743.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
16744.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
發芽的我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
16744.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
16745.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
你先應對他的意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
16745.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
16746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
我知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].start |
16746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].end |
16747.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].text |
你知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].start |
16747.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].end |
16748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].text |
我覺得主委院長就是他就是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].start |
16748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].end |
16750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].text |
不是在海關那個一億多顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
16750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].end |
16751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
有多少的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].start |
16751.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].end |
16752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].text |
可是我們每個老百姓聽起來都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
16752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].end |
16753.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].text |
他不是只是發芽的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
16753.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].end |
16756.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].text |
如果會把他解釋成委員一直認為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
16756.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].end |
16758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
那個是全世界沒有人這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].start |
16758.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
16759.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
16759.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
16760.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
這個是主委院長講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
16760.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].end |
16762.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
我們只是引述他的話嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
16762.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
16763.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
16763.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
16764.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
我們只是引述他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
16764.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
16766.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
我們並不是要改他的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
16766.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
16767.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
這樣都會誤解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
16767.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
16768.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
因為全世界沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
16768.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].end |
16769.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
那他已經會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].start |
16769.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].end |
16770.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
他就必須在總質詢讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
16770.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
16772.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
其實市長你不需要堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
16772.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
16773.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
因為主委院長講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
16773.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
16775.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
其實都有錄音帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
16775.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
16776.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
都有影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
16776.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
16777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
現在在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
16777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
16779.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
在電視上國人都看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
16779.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
16781.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].text |
那我覺得因為你們農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
16781.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].end |
16782.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
其實也有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
16782.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
16783.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
你們可以改做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
16783.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
16785.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
你們用力自己去做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
16785.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
16787.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
說卓院長的意思是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
16787.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
16788.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
那但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
16788.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
16790.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
就不要改卓院長講話的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
16790.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
16791.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
那個市長我提出一個建議就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
16793.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
16795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
院長的字不要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
16795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
16796.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
他的話也不要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
16796.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
16798.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
但是你在農業部這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
16798.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].end |
16799.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
就可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
16799.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
16800.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
僅願於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
16800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
16801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
每批 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
16801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
16802.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
於邊境檢疫上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].start |
16802.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].end |
16803.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
每批 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
16803.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
16805.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
有發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
16807.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
16808.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
這做抽驗啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
16808.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
16809.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
不是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
16809.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
16810.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].start |
16810.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
16811.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
所有進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
16811.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].end |
16812.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
所有進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].start |
16812.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
16814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
我們會去抽六成啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].start |
16814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].end |
16815.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
會去抽六成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
16815.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
16817.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
不是發芽的我們才抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
16817.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
16819.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
就每一批要抽6% |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
16819.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
16820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
16820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
16821.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
六成是每一顆嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
16822.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
16824.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
卓院長是要百分之百耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
16824.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
16825.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
你比院長的決心還低喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
16825.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
16826.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
二八圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
16826.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
16827.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
只有六成而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].start |
16827.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
16829.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
如果一直堅持這樣的話會被笑啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
16829.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
16831.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
不是你說卓院長講話會被笑喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
16831.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
16832.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
16832.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
16833.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
你說卓院長胡作八道喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
16833.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
16836.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
一定就要在邊境百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
16836.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
16837.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
這是變了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
16837.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
16838.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
小時候沒有人這樣做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
16838.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
16840.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
是啊你要讓他在大院裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
16840.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
16841.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
解釋清楚嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
16841.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
16842.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
所以我就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
16842.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
16843.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
前面要加三個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
16843.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
16844.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
發芽的我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
16844.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
16845.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
16845.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
16846.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
這個沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
16846.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
16847.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
市長這我會幫你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
16847.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
16848.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
我到時候質詢我問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
16848.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
16849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
院長他是不是講的是發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
16849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
16851.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
讓他來自己解釋他的話好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
16851.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
16852.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
讓他解釋嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
16852.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
16853.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
他做不出事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
16853.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
16854.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
他做不出事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
16854.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
16855.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
你不要堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
16855.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
16856.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
因為我們就在卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
16856.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
16857.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
因為你要提報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
16857.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
16859.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
報告的說明你們再去說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
16859.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
16860.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
對啊你可以講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
16860.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
16861.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
我們的話你不要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
16861.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
16862.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
16862.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
16863.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
16863.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
16864.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
我們的歷史你不要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
16864.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
16865.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
但是因為我們只需要一個書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
16865.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
16866.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
16866.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
16867.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].start |
16867.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
16869.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
你在報告回覆你可以說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
16869.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
16871.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
卓院長的意思到底是什麼好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
16871.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
16872.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
16872.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
16874.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
那後面還有一個請願 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
16874.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
16876.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
邊境檢疫上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
16876.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
16878.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
實批查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
16879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
16881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
實批查60% |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
16881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
16883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
實批查60% |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
16883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
16885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
60%啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
16885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
16887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
那個所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
16887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
16889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
醫生委員他就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
16889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
16890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
沒有百分之百嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
16890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
16891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
16891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
16892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
就是沒有百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
16892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
16894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
然後接下來是不是再加一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
16894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
16895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
各位委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
16895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
16897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
我大概說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
16898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
16899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
這個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
16901.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
16902.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
在這一個逗點之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
16902.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
16904.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
再加上如有花芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
16904.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
16906.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
足醫檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
16906.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
16907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
16907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
16909.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
就是我們要加進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].start |
16909.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
16910.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
就是現在就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
16910.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
16911.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
16911.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
16913.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
每10批卓院6批 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
16913.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
16915.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
那後面逗點之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
16915.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
16916.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
如有花芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
16916.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
16918.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
足醫檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
16919.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
16920.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
16920.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
16923.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
剛才我質詢的時候你就是這樣回覆我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
16923.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
16925.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
我跟你講你的回覆你就乾脆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
16925.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
16927.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
因為我這個就是要一個書面完整的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
16927.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
16928.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
不跟報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
16928.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
16932.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
針對今天所有委員對於這個馬鈴薯進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
16932.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
16933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
這個修正的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
16933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
16934.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
你就在你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
16934.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
16935.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
這個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
16935.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
16936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
16936.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
16937.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
因為你剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
16937.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
16939.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
你剛剛就是這樣回覆我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
16939.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
16941.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
你現在又要來修正你的說法跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
16941.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
16942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
我覺得沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
16942.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
16944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
我就是要一個完整的說明報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
16944.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
16945.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
我們今天不是要做一個決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
16945.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
16947.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
我們今天還是要做決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
16947.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
16949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
這個沒有以前不能進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
16949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
16950.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
我們今天沒有要做決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
16950.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
16952.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
這是要一個書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
16952.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
16953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
對我們會教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
16953.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
16954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
7天內我們會教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
16954.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
16955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
我現在是怕說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
16955.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
16957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
因為各委員都名字都在列在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
16957.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
16959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
你如果上面所寫的這個主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
16959.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
16961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
到10年後20年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
16961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
16963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
被我們的後代子孫嘻咬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
16964.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
16965.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
16969.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
16970.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
所以我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
16970.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
16971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
把它修正好一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
16971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
16973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
但是卓院長不是說說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
16973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
16974.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
我們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
16974.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
16975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
我們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
16975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
16976.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
品質很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
16976.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
16977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
你剛剛說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
16977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
16978.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
卓院長說整櫃檢查每一顆拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
16978.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
16980.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
檢查會不會後代子孫笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
16980.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
16981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
所以我就要加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
16981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
16982.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
那你要去跟他講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
16982.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
16983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
16983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
16984.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
市長你現在在騷擾我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
16984.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
16986.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
台上委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
16986.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
16987.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
你指的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
16987.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
16988.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
我們這樣子寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
16988.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
16991.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
我們剛剛質詢的委員會被國人笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
16991.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
16993.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
不是把它改成更好一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
16993.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
16994.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
更精準一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
16994.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
16995.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
因為那是卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
16995.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
16996.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
他就是這樣回放我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
16996.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
16999.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
卓院長就是這樣子講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
16999.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
17000.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
我一個字都沒有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
17000.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
17002.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
剛才我在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
17002.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
17003.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
你也是這樣回覆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
17003.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
17005.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
我也沒有增加你的字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
17005.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
17006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
我也沒有減少你的字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
17006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
17007.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
你現在告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
17007.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
17008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
我剛剛質詢會被笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
17008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
17009.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
17009.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
17010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
17010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
17011.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
我就說回 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
17011.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
17012.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
17012.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
17014.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
因為現在快一點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
17014.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
17015.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
17015.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
17016.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
17016.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
17017.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
我只是因為怕一點兩點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
17017.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
17018.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
今天耗到五點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
17018.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
17020.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
我也跟你耗到在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
17020.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
17021.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
那個市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
17021.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
17023.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
就是發芽的那三個字不要加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
17023.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
17025.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
因為那幾個是卓院長說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
17025.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
17028.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
我們前面有寫行政院卓院長陳稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
17028.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
17030.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
那如果他的解釋是發芽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
17030.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
17031.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
我們可以再問他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
17031.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
17032.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
讓他有機會解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
17032.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
17034.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
我們會尋到主席的指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
17034.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
17035.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
17035.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
17036.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
卓院長說不定有決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
17036.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
17038.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
每一科要檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
17038.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
17039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
你太小看他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
17039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
17041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
為國人捍衛史蘭的決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
17041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
17043.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
沒有人有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
17043.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
17044.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
他就這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
17044.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
17045.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
會做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
17045.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
17046.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
17046.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
17047.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
17047.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].end |
17048.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].text |
那10P改6P |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
17048.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
17049.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
就60% |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
17049.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
17050.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
這個比較沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
17050.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
17051.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
本來就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
17051.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
17052.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
目前就是這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
17052.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].end |
17053.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
17055.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
17056.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
17056.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
17057.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
那就現在修正了再念 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
17057.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].end |
17060.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
就是第17家進口業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
17060.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].end |
17061.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
其他的都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
17064.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
17065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
其他都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
17065.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].end |
17067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
就照原來的臨時提案來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
17067.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].end |
17068.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
17068.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
17069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
就照這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
17069.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
17070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
17070.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
17071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
好沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
17071.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
17072.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
那我們就照這個臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
17076.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].end |
17077.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
17077.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
17078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
17078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
17079.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].start |
17079.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].end |
17080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].text |
就照現在這樣子處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].start |
17080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
17081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
好那我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
17081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].end |
17082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
大家沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
17082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
17083.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
那我們就照這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
17083.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
17084.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
臨時提案來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
17084.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
17085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
17085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
17086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
17086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
17087.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
17087.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
17088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
17088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
17089.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
17089.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
17090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
17090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
17091.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
17091.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
17092.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
17092.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
17093.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
17093.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
17094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
17094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
17095.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
17095.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
17096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
17096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
17097.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
17097.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
17098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
17098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
17099.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
17099.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
17100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
17100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
17101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
17101.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
17102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
17102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
17103.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
17103.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
17104.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
17104.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
17105.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
17089.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
17090.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
17090.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
17091.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
本次會議做如下的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
17091.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
17094.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
報告跟說明及答詢完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
17094.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
17097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
委員質詢未答覆或請補充資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
17097.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
17099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
請相關機關於一週內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
17099.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
17101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
以書面答覆委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
17101.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
17104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
另有要求期限者從其所訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
17104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
17106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
中央民國115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
17106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
17107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
17107.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
17109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
有關主計總處審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
17109.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
17111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
審計部台北市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
17111.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
17113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
審計部新北市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
17113.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
17115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
審計部桃園市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
17115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
17117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
審計部台中市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
17117.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
17119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
審計部台南市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
17119.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
17122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
審計部高雄市審計處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
17122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
17125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
第27款直轄市集 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
17125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
17128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
縣市政府第三項一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
17128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
17132.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
財政部主管第一幕財政部第二幕國庫署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
17132.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
17134.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
第13項一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
17134.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
17137.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
其他第一至第8幕災害準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
17137.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
17138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
第二準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].start |
17138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
17141.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
均另擇期繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
17141.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
17145.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
本次會議委員若有相關預算提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
17145.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
17148.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
請於今天下午5點前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
17148.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
17152.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
送到我們財政委員會會議議事人員收件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
17152.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
17155.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
本次會議議程已進行完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].start |
17155.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].end |
17158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].text |
讓不在場的委員補題書面質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].start |
17158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].end |
17159.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].text |
一併列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].start |
17159.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].end |
17160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].text |
刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].start |
17160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].end |
17162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].text |
並請議事人員協助處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].start |
17162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].end |
17163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].text |
我們今天散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].start |
17163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].end |
17165.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].text |
謝謝大家大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].start |
17213.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].end |
17214.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].text |
謝謝大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].start |
17214.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].end |
17215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].text |
謝謝大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].start |
17215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].end |
17216.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].text |
謝謝大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].start |
17216.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].end |
17217.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].text |
左邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].start |
17218.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].end |
17219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].text |
右邊 |
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1652.15 |
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SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.speakers[0].speaker |
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