| IVOD_ID |
17320 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17320 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T08:38:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T10:57:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
02:18:30 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/eeffa975d6a1e3eabbd6dedb4516fb0f8c1248ad583d61267a9d5466ed3f8140a617719806c1924b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況（含上會期臨時提案辦理情形），並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:38:30 - 10:57:00 |
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二 邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況含上會期臨時提案辦理情形並被質詢報告事項及討論事項合併詢答內政部部長劉世芳報告委員蘇巧慧等13人質詢由內政部部長劉世芳及相關人員答覆說明委員李貞秀發言時行政官員均不被詢決定登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘均與發言完畢詢答結束 |
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委員王美惠 廖千祥 高金素梅 羅志強 邱志偉所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報主席宣告一 委員會尊重韓國瑜院長的協商結論李政秀女士可以上台發言但法治國家的法律不能用協商所以我們也尊重行政院行政院官員可以不必回答也不必提供資料 |
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二 書面質詢及未及答覆部分 請相關機關除了李珍秀女士以外於一週內另以書面答覆並複製本會討論事項 審查委員林俊憲等23人擬據市區道路條例第23條條文修正常案案 決議討論事項所列議案 另定期繼續審查 |
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立法院第十一屆第五會及內政委員會第三次全體委員會議議事錄時間115年3月23日星期一上午9時至12時11分地點紅樓202會議室出席委員李曾秀委員等13人列席委員陳昭芝委員等18人列席官員 |
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大陸委員會主任委員秋垂政經相關人員財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長蘇嘉全暨相關人員主席廖昭吉委員先詳報告事項一宣讀上次會議議事錄決定暫不確定二邀請大陸委員會主任委員及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長列席業務列席報告業務概況並被質詢大陸委員會主任委員秋垂政及財團 |
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法人海峽交流基金會董事長蘇嘉全暨相關人員報告委員李曾秀等13人質詢時分由大陸委員會主任委員邱垂政及財團法人海峽交流基金會董事長蘇嘉全答覆說明委員李曾秀發言時行政官員向主席答覆說明 |
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決定一 登記發言委員除不在場者外其餘均已發言完畢 詢答結束二 委員吳啟明 高金素梅 丁學中所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報三 書面質詢及未及導封部分請相關機關於一週內另以書面答覆並複製本會主席宣告 |
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諮詢過程請尊重發言委員並請行政與立法機關互相尊重未來如有行政院同仁以性別之稱呼委員主席將以同樣方式稱呼官員討論事項審查台北市政府未對計程道路處理條例草案提出建議請願文書案等9案決議請願案均不成為議案依立法院職權新施法第67條第二項之規定送由程序委員會報請願會審查並通知請願人宣讀完畢 |
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我特別跟委員會說明這個巡曆會把上一次的會議做會議記錄的這個確認有沒有錯誤或遺漏但這一次比較特別因為上一次會議沒有辦法確認3月16號的這個會議的內容就是包含這個尊重行政院可以不用對李貞秀女士的詢答的這一段那如果這一段也確認放入我們的會議記錄請問在場委員有沒有意見 |
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所以好沒有意見的話我們就把第二次跟第三次的會議記錄都確定現在繼續本本日議程請宣讀報告事項二邀請客家委員會主任委員帥彤所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況含上會期臨時提案辦理情形並備質詢宣讀完畢好現在介紹在場委員及列席官員 |
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首先介紹張宏祿委員王美惠委員黃婕委員吳祁銘委員謝謝接下來我們再介紹行政院客委會與會官員客委會主任委員谷秀菲主委 |
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接下來直接介紹財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長宋庭棟客家電視台台長向聖嫣台長還有剛剛的客家公共傳播基金會的代理總經理莊盛宏總經理還有客委會的主任秘書吳克能主秘 |
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好謝謝,那其他與會官員我們就不一一介紹接下來會有兩個報告,那我們還是限制一下時間主委三分鐘還是五分鐘五分鐘好請谷秀暉主委報告,時間五分鐘,謝謝 |
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1715 |
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主席 各位委員 各位朋友 大家好很高興列席國語委員會來做報告客語會核心業務之一是客語附贈今天在國會殿堂用客語來進行報告和質詢對委員來說 透過翻譯機可能會有些取得不便但容我們一起來實踐以客語為主要使用的語言的機會 |
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1730.09 |
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以下的報告跟質詢 我就用客語來表達本市除了持續推動行業負增圖 合同創業創新以外 即將連結強硬勢推 做出合格文化用心的創設 |
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以致重點實證的成果,就通過報告請國會委員職高在強硬供應產業方面,本市去年宿舍成立的合格強硬諮詢委員會、體育國委員會擬通批立工作 |
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1748.288 |
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1755.655 |
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協力強硬委員、國民參議團政策諮詢的能力今年議廳判定分期座談,協助強硬委員參議政策推動也議廳判定休省行事階段設計規劃,由強硬來支柱提案,都分為今行短期的設施 |
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1790.665 |
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在核架生涯發展方面,核架壁1.0已經累積成功與營運,僅僅為突出核架壁2.0擴大來使用對象和重塑來打造更加全面的工學成分圈,能夠推動重範核種和提防重生以及計劃,協助47V以及柵堤核種再建。 |
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1795.387 |
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1814.51 |
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不必持續透過兩點的法庭、種植車路、離站、搭建國際賽事,來享受學家的信任、提升差異經濟。在學中建設團文化保存方面,已經在天土研室、食育研室、尼森尼利學中生化交流中心、 |
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1836.708 |
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新竹縣等五縣市7位學種絲綢在省示範店以及新竹縣10縣市21位圖書館的空間有法讓本府持續推動學種歷史建築修復同在利用的工廠在行業復振方面 求人的參加行業認證 |
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超過3萬人,比較前年慎重的超過5千人。能夠推動行政參議員服務計劃,開辦有844項,以及判斷兩百重的親子和合法公共事務法庭、養殖家庭和社區共享的環境,要完成行政議員辨識, |
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1886.578 |
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以及翻譯技術、開發的AI主播等多年的應用、用業、醫療、教育和公共服務從事。在連結全球學校名錄方面,以及今年本月的提拔示範裡,讓我們台灣學校勤勤大費、有請温泰族的學校沙團、國內的學校事務總裁機關,以及很多學校先進來參與。 |
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1920.466 |
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在客座、仲裁、管法方面,大公司負責經驗成長的占點有610億元,同時攀起陸域同流的服務。另外,有40億元的占點為攀起非本的批判服務,發展於文化領域,做到了福祉的照顧服務模式。 |
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1921.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1942.991 |
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在文化、美容及養殖營發展方面,求人的送食貴賓,台灣社貿平生行節目,展現了合格、嚴若、傳統及現代表現的特殊性。今年土的國有太歲,全台灣有四期將近五百推,超過一萬兩千人參與,同志豐廠合作推出營館勤製鏗, |
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1949.016 |
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1972.648 |
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在台湾与14城市、台北、高雄、美国及台南评统与全球企业参与本会日持续出版、创邀作杂作品、推动文学翻译及国际组织在流行文化方面,创立全球流行业务体系及企业企业开发 |
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1975.171 |
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1988.563 |
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對於非所屬南北延期的洋運方面,除了非得到交通部公共事務、公共百貨兩點以外,也對延期亦得到最佳規律的重新做。 |
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1991.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2016.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
美国、英国、法国等知名的帝国与世界中方未来会持续退战合作最后本非与美国持续进行国防业务、枪法、抢眼、残疾、共枪事务、挑戈核武战策、抗体抗议、宣发、宣发权、活络与核武战役 |
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2017.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2042.918 |
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提升全民共學的意識 未來會持續用俗創新 窮好 窮兇為主軸來推動行業生發法和國際學流 讓本台灣體育學家 體師界發光以上報告 堅強各位委員的資格 祝福各位身體健康 萬事宜 生命體格 安智晟 努力謝謝 謝謝谷主委 |
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2047.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2051.839 |
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接下來我們請採訪法人客家公共傳播基金會宋庭棟董事長來報告謝謝好 |
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2062.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2069.218 |
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主席,各位委員,大家好,聽眾見面,該永恆非同學位費顧諸委,來列席該委員費,來報告採訪發言客家公共傳播基金費,一百一十五年圖任務報告。 |
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2081.463 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
聖蒙主席亦與國會議員的至高致詞和傳譽順利運作,亦可以作為推動香港文化及共襄傳播與國際創業的單位。 |
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2096.796 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2115.408 |
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我們基於當初實施的初衷,我們押下115年進行的工作,提供結合數位肥料平台,養育公共和公共天臺。115年,我們安心有80次的節目, |
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2121.392 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2129.055 |
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人們的為頭也有報導天台電台製作40億的節目總共有100億人的節目人們的節目的支持率達到66.1%人們可以輔助其他團體的20億人從社工力的廣播天台來直播58億的帶狀節目 |
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2148.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2170.629 |
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我們在蘇美食堂的部分,我們有完成差不多74個Podcast的節目,不用說主要我們這次的講法講不聽的官方不用說,我們有送Apple10各種的春柳平台,到三月底日子,我們在這個食堂的次數有九十一萬七千人吃。 |
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2171.989 |
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2188.88 |
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今天的工作是結合蘇維埃的科技來培育我們的黑衣傳播的研裁。為了鼓勵我們國家製作優秀的黑衣傳播的黑衣公布節目,我們一百二十年, |
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2189.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2197.447 |
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持續叛逆核三重,核戰的開始會開始修建。我們會規劃重視核二的博客創作因,例如健康三一批的核二公佈的運作。第三,我們想增加核二公佈的平台,加強核二的公共化, |
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2218.203 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2230.93 |
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為了增加行業貢獻發揮,我們一百一十三年由蘇建復興公佈天台、寬散公佈天台、國雄公佈天台來播放7個工學公佈天台的節目,其餘部分我們會持續進行。7次工作,來挑戰央視作品市場提高國際知名度, |
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2243.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2251.541 |
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近期有些樣片已經上映,其中雙片在背景樣片被播放後,新一代會送到中華電視MOD平台 |
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2265.187 |
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2272.512 |
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目前在境外的現場也有對抗,有促進動體播放。我們在丟包阿公到我這裏拍片,也會在沙雷新一處參加芝加哥的亞洲運動演習,在北美首映。 |
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2289.645 |
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2301.114 |
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在他們的工作下,製造新媒體的樣相,提高客家人間圖,並且結合實施製作相關議題的報導,以及從吳斯堅說出來,還有各種客家的斷言言。 |
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2307.779 |
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2320.564 |
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也有AII依賴,也有等等的樣片當然三年代未知,我們的核酬比我們所屬的樣因的平台,觀看次數,觀看次數達到1100,其實是3萬次我們也有透過影響、影響肌肉的方式來製作民意設施,有歷史意義跟人文沉重的樣片 |
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2336.85 |
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2349.923 |
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這六個工作,我們用行動專博查來成立合作,順序修正來呈現合格的故事,我們用講學後的行動專博查,只要有發通的時間,我們會成立合作,進行相同的採訪,補充及時的內容揚聲, |
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2361.494 |
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2374.356 |
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我們工學團隊的所謂的雙性壓力壓度我們在3月12日已經參加文創司發動來促進的運輸,差不多五成五萬元運輸我們也在連結採取的英文的執行,提前做的發佈屏東運教室、台服房還有神秘書店、神秘書店、電梯、棋盤等土壤合格的順序所在 |
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2390.579 |
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這次的工作是我們披露客家兒童營養的年齡,提供贊揚的舞台,我們擁有的結立客家兒童合唱團,目前我們有50名團員,讓我們對合唱兩位也得到相同態的認定, |
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提拔工作,及時分享各種事實,提升各家鄉長對各家的認同度。我們的黑新聞,對我們的三月底為止,我們已經刊登了兩萬三千兩篇的新聞。 |
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累積傳播年次699萬,有1,008萬次的點閱,持續提升名專新聞及記事信、多年信,存放我們的學傳費及學長的鏈結。 |
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醫生追核傳肥115年的任務報告,堅強COVID-19的制高,也強度繼續支持我們的核傳肥。謝謝大家。 |
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好謝謝我們現在進行詢答那委員諮詢前原例做幾點宣告每位委員諮詢時間本會委員5分鐘必要時得延長2分鐘非本會委員5分鐘上午10點30分截止發言登記本次會議不處理臨時提案請問各位委員有沒有意見沒有 |
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好謝謝那現在進行詢問請登記第一位的張宏祿委員諮詢我先請這個宋董事長 |
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委員好宋董事長,我想先請問一下我們這個客家廣播電台,這個全台灣的涵蓋率,你們覺得如何?目前在北部的涵蓋,收聽率是比較高的我沒有問你收聽率,我只問你涵蓋率 |
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涵蓋是全島都有這個都能夠收聽所有的客庄我們都有在監測你們現在的頻道都是FM嘛對對不對對但你也知道有些客庄是在比較山上是其實他的收聽的很不清晰有的地方會很難收聽得到你們有知道嗎 |
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有,我們有在做一個準備做一個調查這個就是各地的收聽品質的部分那我本人我也是在各地走的時候我也會去監測當地的收聽的環境的確有一些地方不太理想另外因為我們拿到的頻道是到就是台北 |
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雙北這邊的頻率105.9那桃竹是105.7然後到苗栗台中南投這邊又是104.3 101.5然後再下去又104.3等等這個大家都知道啦每天他在那邊他都知道頻率在哪裡我現在跟你說的就是有一些比較山區比較什麼的 |
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他根本就是收訊的狀況品質不怎麼好嘛對啊,這個你知道嗎?了解像比如說我們在苗栗那邊我們的發射台在火炎山 |
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那但是像我們比較靠近台三線的大湖那邊就是它的收聽狀況不理想,所以我們就會設置這個補戲台使得那邊的那個收聽的情況可以改善我知道啦,我只問你像有很多地方收聽情況並不是很好的情況,你知道了嗎?你知不知道?我們知道有相當一部分的啊對嘛 |
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對嘛 我也是很多人跟我反應啊 對不對他在山區 他在什麼 根本就收聽想要聽 也聽不到 聽不清楚嘛這個你知道嘛 知道那可能齁 |
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想辦法去改善不然花了這麼多錢那我們的客家鄉親他要聽反而都聽不到啊甚至是不是有可能跟有一些AM的電台合作嘛他就有可能聽得到了嘛你如果跟他合作你反而不用自己再花很多錢啊你也知道有這種情況了有這種情況不是今天啦我覺得想辦法去把它改善啦 |
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既然我們有製作這麼多的節目那我們客家鄉親聽不到耶聽不到耶這個我覺得做了這麼多結果聽不到很可惜啦所以我希望你們可以去改善這個問題啦好不好是非常認同委員指教好 謝謝那來我再請谷主委 |
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總議員主委這個 |
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我們從以前我就一直在講這個要推動這個客語方便什麼主委現在AI的這個應用非常的普及然後你看有很多用AI去學英文去什麼的這種也非常的多那我們客委會有沒有想過要來開發一個程式或什麼讓我們一般人想要學客語或什麼 |
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我透過APP或什麼的然後我就可以即時對話我就可以什麼很方便來學客語我們有沒有這個想法 |
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感謝委員的指教,目前對於藥膚粉的確實有慢慢的在推動包括藥膚機的導入,藥膚創業的,目前已經在進行沒錯,藥膚設備技術等等,很在進行所以你們有在做了?有,有在做那大概多久可以? |
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可以讓民眾去使用那如果民眾使用,要不要付費目前我們傾向不付費因為公共的資源,除非是藥塘或其他用藥 |
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這個就要最主要的背後其實雨衣雨尿褲要建置得非常龐大非常完整它要有辦法推動所以這個建置其實是一直在持續提供金行等所以我們預計是今年年底那個客滑對翼等等的系統會出來不不不客滑對翼的系統那個是另外一個系統我現在所說的是其實現在的技術 |
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應該都做得到你看人家那個英語教學的英語什麼的那個用AI然後跟你這個即時對話即時什麼這個來練習是很快的我的意思是說人家商業都已經這樣做了那我們課委會有這麼多 |
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的資源那我們也要積極推廣這個我的意思是開發一個很簡單的APP的一個程式然後讓所有的人只要想的我就可以上啊對不對然後我就可以隨時隨地我就可以練習客語啊學客語啊 |
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我覺得這個就像主委講的那個資料庫那個什麼可能是比較複雜的然後我們還有很多的不同的腔調這個有可能你們會比較複雜前期的前置座位會比較久但我覺得 |
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這個是做得到的而且我也不認為要花很多錢啊如果要花很多錢啊這些人家商業用他怎麼可能會有獲利呢對不對所以我的意思是說開發像這樣的程式讓大家免費可以去隨時隨地去去講客家話啊去學客家話啊我的意思是這個欸 主委 |
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我認為要提議過後,我們要做最重要的,因為我們在過去幾十年和未來重啟以來,事實和我們的語音、語料的部分已經累積到一定的程度了,要運用,要做的運用,未來所提的運用的部分,要構成我們的目標 |
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我是這樣啦你們可以跟教育部一起合作這個開發出來的大家都一起共用的那你要做到百分之百你才要上線我覺得也沒有必要啦對不對一般的對話一般的什麼的這個 |
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有差不多的就可以了啊你就慢慢補足啊也讓大家知道啊我覺得這就可以做啦我是覺得主委這個如果你也認同這樣我覺得你也認同嘛那我們就你們試試看來做做看嘛現在我們有AI主播啦但是很忙對話AI對話可以再推進再往前推進 |
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我再說一下不好意思這個你現在去上網上很多學英文的都有了這太多了那只是要資料庫進去而已我不認為這是很困難的我也不認為這要花很多錢如果要花很多錢他商業的使用他要賺什麼 |
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那我們既然有這個資源我們來做我覺得花不了多少錢讓所有的 而且你做這個不是只有給台灣喔全世界的客家人 全世界都可以用我們這個APP喔對不對 我覺得這個你可以思考一下好 感謝委員好 謝謝 |
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謝謝,謝謝張宏祿委員接下來請張志倫委員質詢好,謝謝主席、各位委員、各位官員大家早有請克爾惠谷主委 |
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股主委長謝謝還是要感謝客委會在去年對我們地方活動的支持尤其在114年當時新北市有舉辦一個新北客家藝名祭那當時我也特別拜託股主委這個地方的這個活動 |
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因為某些的問題經費不足那也感謝谷主委把這個補助的金額從一百萬增加到兩百萬讓活動順利圓滿不僅是讓青年參與讓國際社會國際一些友好的組織來參與那也要拜託谷主委那今年希望也可以比照辦理給新北最大的支持因為新北的客家人數大概高達六十七萬的客家人都很重視這樣的活動 |
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那接下來要請教就依照客核會最新的業務報告本席常常跟主委請教就是有關於博工造戶站那就報告裡面可以看到出來今年博工造戶站已經從過去的556個已經今年已經成立到611個的博工造戶站然後我覺得這是一件很好的事就是我們有放寬這個客家社區的認定那也讓這個 |
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未來客家社區的人口數就是從過往要常住人口的50%放寬到30%這樣的調整本席可以接受可是本席的選區在新北市新北市跟台北市的客就是客家人的人數非常的多 |
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那現在全國總共剛剛本席有提到611個我們雙北的博工照護站因為博工照護站我覺得很棒不僅是可以讓這個長輩有一個可以參加活動的地方甚至我們博工照護站它的意旨就是希望說有長輩來把這個課語可以傳給自己的下一代或者是孫子這樣子讓家庭照護更圓滿跟語言傳承更好的一個方式 |
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可是現在雙北的博工造戶站只有台北市一個站新北市一個站都沒有那其他以現在來講以客家社區來講是有10個客家社區都沒有成立博工造戶站所以是不是請主委就是說你有在努力可是在雙北我們的博工造戶站好像成效還不是很好那是不是請主委有沒有什麼想法可以來解決這個問題 |
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感謝委員 最主要是社區的意願最重要社區的意願最重要社區的意願最重要社區的意願最重要社區的意願最重要社區的意願最重要 |
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是 就是主委說的沒錯因為你剛剛你所說的就是我們現在雙北市可以開放成客家社團這十個區只有一個區願意來設博工造戶站所以是不是說主委因為博工造戶站的這個今年的預算也比去年有稍微增加一些增加了大概一兩千萬 |
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是不是今年可以再打破框架更大刀闊斧把這個比例可以再稍微調整一下比如說客羽使用30%我們可以下降到20%左右或是我跟主委報告一下我們可以調整就是如果說是客家人口涉及區域在城市民比如說像新北板橋新莊中和等等這些地方是不是都有機會來考慮就是像之前我請教你的他們都可以把它認為是客家社團 |
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的一部分,有沒有這樣的機會?但你也報告,我們先,第一年先這樣我們再試一下,明年的中控很弱,我們先用以下30%至於說要下降多20%,我們看30%有其他的社區有依然在參議,看那參議的長途,我們再去調整修正 |
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因為從30降到20的時候從剛剛講50降到30的時候只有一個增加一個博工照護站所以我覺得這個比例可以第一個還可以再往下調看看會不會有更多社區大家願意共同來參與我覺得這非常好那好謝謝主委那第二個我要來請教我們主委就是就是像去年我們有個政策也蠻不錯就是客家幣的使用率客家幣使用的部分那去年來講大概是有28萬人來去做申請 |
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也花了大概政府大概28億的預算那以使用率來講如果我們簡單來講抓六七成的話大概是兩億的經費那現在目前為止到3月20的話這個總消費的金額大概是1.25億那我覺得是有達到階段性的目標不過整體使用率還是有比較低大概才45%那就客人會有去做問卷調查 |
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那店家我們當然希望整個的目的就是不僅是要促進一些商家的效益也要促進這個客語的使用率可是就你們的訪查來講好像店家主動說客語的比例也只有40%所以現在我們客家屁的使用的經費不到50% 45% |
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那說店家願意說主動說客的比例也還不到50%只有40%那以現在我覺得這客家幣是一個很好的政策那是不是主委您針對客家幣的使用的進度執行率跟未來是不是盡量拜託店家來去主動說客讓大家知道有客家幣這樣的活動是不是有一些您覺得有沒有一些執行的方式可以跟大家說明一下 |
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感謝委員 首先我要說我們多儲平益比值是1.3億我們預估 我們預編預算的2億那1.3億已經達到65%了那第一 今天我們主要的目的正是要強調體學也要重點在說學的事情所以我們也在今年替拜學家畢業時用也要 |
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在2.0 今年新的一季我們會強調客語的使用一定要特多用的客語使用率才可以成為我們的店家要2.0強制這個部分所以我會推動以客語為消費語言的環境 |
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好所以剛剛主委特別講到就是這次的客專的店家基本上都要盡量百分之百在至少連顧客來的時候一開始都一定要先講客語那今年我了解今年2.0你這個能使用客家幣的對象也沒有涉聯齡限制等等也有一些改進那我再請教一下主委就是說那今年客家幣大概預算整理發放的金額大概是多少 |
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2.0的部分我們一樣編列2億元2億元來執行這個計畫有沒有今年沒有增加更多嗎我們預算沒有成長請委員支持我支持我支持這個客家地我們會支持預算沒有成長 |
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最後一個問題就是關於客家語言發展法上次我有請教主委就是客家語言發展法我們現在立法的進度因為上次主委在這邊有跟我們講說因為跟文化部推動的國家語言發展中心的業務有重疊跟抵觸就本行有去了解了一下好像目前來講好像文化部還是不太願意跟你們來開協調會來處理這個問題 |
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那在上次質詢的時候我有請教主委你說有可能這個客家語言發展法因為它最大的重點就是保障這個客語在國家語言的地位以及保障人民來使用客語那如果以現在文化部還是沒有來繼續跟你們開會這個會期有機會把草案送到立法院嗎 |
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感謝議員 目前我們這次在亞非去送到立法院目前我們在京都 非禮堡已經都完備了要簽到行政院裡頭已經有溝通了是OK的有溝通OK了大概去年溝通了幾次我送您也有要客家語言研究中心這個已經送來立法院了 |
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這個也要文化部的法案已經送下去了客語發展法目前要送行政院但是行政院通過的主要要送到立法院所以這個會期會送到行政院?對,我們會去期待OK,那是一個蠻好的進度啦那希望主委跟客語會的同仁大家一起加油謝謝 |
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好 謝謝張志倫委員 接下來我們請王美惠委員質詢 謝謝主席 大家 諸位 |
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主委老實講,在這裡本身跟你先談到一個,我們課宜基本法裡面在這個規定,在第四條的規定,很清楚的我們的課教委員,領口如果代理三分之一,叫做課宜就要通宇的 |
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那個交流嘛那離婚制的那個時候就是主要的通行嘛在這個規定裡面說在1897年已經是到今年11月就八年要完成的時候立法委員會 |
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現在會刻意實施,你覺得有麻煩嗎?來,主委,你回答一下感謝委員的指教,確實說,我不滿意啦就要合法的施用,不按國,要有滑落的跡象主委,你說的就是重點啦,我們想跟你說的是奇怪,我們的努力當中沒有進步、沒有打緊 |
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還要批幾年,還要退步這是什麼原因?因為我覺得你也很認真去選擇認真去做的在這個過程當中,我們的公務人員你也是鼓勵他們去核實、去學但是在這裡看的時候,我們是覺得說一年要批一年就好 |
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要不然說了解我們土的資料跟我們所有的 |
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是退步的所以主委在這個過程當中你有什麼好的方法嗎來 請主委 |
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主委你沒有要求提升很多人說的你又要求說不能夠比之前那些人說但是事實上已經越來越多人說了這才是危機的問題啦這就是定義跟說台語一樣啦你若沒有用心 |
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去了解說要怎麼讓他們可以繼續進步的時候是越來越嚴重像我們的身體管理員也好廟裡管理員也好他的科家委員也很多嘛你如果在那裡的時候你把他一直鑽到那裡我們如果在那個地方你他不去鑽到的時候像我自己在那裡他都會了解他是在補分 |
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的課程都大在那裡,但是每一次看到的活動還是我們中央有什麼說實在的,它都想不到,我們中央說課位有什麼活動,有什麼可以用課位來講故事這是很嚴重的,主委 |
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也不是說要平安的那種種子種啦就運用的像所有的市民朋友在的這個問題這個問題意識啊 那每一個人都要有啊哪有可能成就一個這麼嚴重的問題啊 |
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所以我們最核心的就是要開啟民眾對於這個課宇流失的危機感危機意識因為主委我本席聽你講的時候 我覺得你那個議題也有很感受我們的課宇會流失去 |
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在像本席所謂的台語,大家不能說他講藝術所以說我希望主委要有一個配套的方法因為你說過程有時候我們的 |
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文藝也好,什麼資源也好,都在自己固定可以表現的地方,這樣我們的科技不會進步我們要去議路進展的時候,像你們做的儀碼,你看做得怎麼樣 |
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還在嘉義市表演的時候,有很多人看了尤其這次嘉義縣的發展的時候我們的魚也有很多人看了再來,我們的燈怪的時候在這次表演的時候,也可以客氣不可以說因為有很多人就沒有在那裡表演這樣我們的客氣 |
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真的會流失去啦主委,你們政府像現在很好地表演的時候雖然是我們的政府誘惑,但是我們就是盡量要去各地去表演,大小廳都讓人了解 |
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這裡的客人可以去參與,這才是最重要的所以,再來,我們的客人在裡面很重要的就是,你們還剩下三個月,在最近這麼多次的時候,要怎麼可以真的使用,大家都會使用到 |
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因為剛才有委員跟你們說 跟你們用的信你可知道裡面 不要說店家會說我們的課宜 阿伯你可知道裡面 整個八達裡面 跟二十二達是我們課宜委員的財 |
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那些東西,除了有美食的,還有什麼?你們的規定是如何規定的?你代表解釋一下好不好?跟議員說明,跟政府說明,要把東西推出來主要創造、恢復創造跟恢復用客語來消費的環境 |
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美食的東西在創造我們刻意裡面的或是裡面我不排斥說美食或是日本料理因為我覺得裡面的東西你不覺得很奇怪嗎 |
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我們回想我們三十年前回想我們三十年五十年聽說總統在一個聚落買任何東西消費任何東西都是用我的語言那是很自然的事情但是這三十年下來全部用華語 |
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是要透過這個消費的模式去所以現在一個問題是很嚴重的就是說你東西也不是我們靠的料理的東西最不好你也要你的依然要你靠的依然東西也不是靠的 |
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的料理跟公園不是客戶的料理跟我們台積的錢就不一樣了所以你也要反省說有一次是我們客戶的特色在哪裡說也不是八百多元裡面的麵跟二十二斤是我們客戶的 |
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我認同這樣的看法而且客家幣2.0也要朝這個方向就不管商店營業的是什麼一定要說客語這件事情 |
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因為主委本身是要跟你說,你有用心去用這個時候,你不管要什麼,像你說的,我們可以買百行,要不然用課宜說,這樣我們不就給大家那個標準,跟你說開支,要不然要說課宜,要不然要買 |
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我們客家的料理跟這樣開車的錢哪有什麼意義所以在這裡面 我覺得這要去改善啦在客戶裡面的基本法的時候 我們說實在的要要的 因為要有時間有教育像高一七 加大國小他就辦得很好 他有十辦一辦他不過都是有這個 |
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一概念就是 我覺得這樣沒辦法長久之計啦我們這都要去改善去處理才對 我也覺得說大家互相委託你的依然要保存下去 要用心去改觀完全認同 完全認同 感謝王委員謝謝 感謝王委員 謝謝完美會委員 謝謝接下來我們請黃婕委員 |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請谷主委好 主委早我也是第一個問題想要請教這個客家幣因為這個其實我之前也有質詢過那我認為這個用意是很好的那可不可以請主委在這邊再次說明我們這個客家幣政策的用意為何 |
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我們還有那種傳統的客家庭我們出去那邊在手機賣東西 不過賣菜、賣食物、賣東西的事情我們自然就會用客家在手機但是現在的環境,我們說國客的環境,有幾十年來 |
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已經抹下來了,全部用反映的,我們要透過消費行為和語言意識在商店端、消費端建立起來所以我們要透過學校筆、媒介去要求、要點價,做到主動使用合法 |
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好對所以我也希望說這個因為剛剛看這個現在你們希望使用客家幣的這個店家的講客語的比例其實不夠高那我也認為說那其實這樣子使用你們這個客家幣的政策就有點可惜所以在這邊兩個建議喔因為其實我之前也提過說我們高雄啊像是鳳山三明古山客家的人口雖然沒有說你們達到你們所謂的重點發展區的門檻但是也有一定的數量 |
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那其實這樣的這個不看比例只看人口數的話其實是也蠻可觀的那所以我也希望說這一些沒有放在你們非重點區的這一些區域是不是也有機會被納入讓你們這樣子使用客家幣的範圍可以擴大呢這是第一個 |
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這樣就跟我們委員報告後,還有比2.2萬經驗開始區域範圍,全台灣沒有限制合作但是唯一的條件,就是剛才說的客語要達到我們要求的比例一定會點眼所有的店員一定要會講三句話,三句客語還有前台的30%以上的前台服務人員,要達到客語流利的標準 |
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所以要通過抑鬱的測試 做得順利 這樣點解所以 不過那毒素提起 核種提起 都要有它的條件 張有法圖所以 擴大全台灣的點解好 沒錯 因為這個我之前也提過我也希望說 更彈性 其實是更有機會擴大 加大使用科學的範圍 |
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那另外一件事情就是年齡的門檻因為你們在1.0裡面的這個年齡門檻是說18到49歲可以來抽籤那我會希望說其實18歲以下的孩子如果鼓勵他們使用課語或者是加入這個課裝的話其實他們是更有機會學習的 |
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那所以有沒有機會把這個年齡的門檻再放寬讓十八歲以下的孩子也有機會來使用客家幣呢我們二點人十八歲以下的目前那整堆在學校讀理 有學 學法 |
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也要參與學家、課長、學生的一天的領用的對象所以也要部分我們已經由年齡向下國小、國中、高中、升都做到使用但是前提是不可以有參與課程 |
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所以只要這個學校裡面有相關課與課程他們就有資格包括國小、國中、高中那他們都有機會來抽這個課加幣是嗎不用抽就可以你有這個課程他就可以拿到課加幣那太好了那這兩個目標就是希望2.0可以比1.0更好的地方那看來2.0都有改進了 |
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好謝謝主委我在這邊非常非常的肯定那最後一件事情是這個課宇新傳師那因為課宇新傳師其實我看了一下就是我有課委會給我的數據現在全台的新傳師大概3858人但是呢去年的數據是開課803班也就是說每一位新傳師平均下來連開一班都不到那我不知道主委怎麼想這件事情那是不是有點可惜呢 |
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沒有錯 新船師那樣的合法傳承 過程的阻力要在保育過度 過度複雜的年齡有的事情 不但開一半 也開好多半 |
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他們的信箱一般都沒有開 沒錯所以可是委員體的問題人們重啟以後 也會針對教學跟新傳室方面有多多的溝通 |
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郭董問題不用說他的距離就開班的好久那天過夜呢他父親沒心事但是他還沒認出沒發生什麼事他父親父親的好久開口所以郭董負責的問題 |
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對所以呢我這邊其實有接到一些新傳師的反應啦他們有提供幾個可以改革的地方第一個是行政的負擔他們說啊教課一個小時但核銷要花兩個小時他們覺得這個過程的手續太繁複了太麻煩了他寧願就是雖然有新傳師的資格但是我懶得去開班 |
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那我覺得如果行政負擔造成他們的這種阻力的話那這個就沒有意義了所以第一個希望行政負擔可以減少那第二個就是你們有限制說新傳師每年只能申請兩次嘛然後每次最多就是四班 |
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那也就是說如果他整個開滿全年的終點費大概就不到12萬那也沒有所謂的老健保更沒有是納入這個什麼退休金等等的所以他就是一個興趣然後也就是鼓勵的性質但是相關的制度沒有很健全那也沒有足夠的誘因這個是我希望你們可以檢討的 |
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如果可以的話是不是就讓新船師可以讓他有更正式一點的職位或者是說給他們更多的這種保險上面的保障或者是相關的誘因要更強這個其實都可以考慮那再來另外一個就是年齡的問題因為我看了一下這個新船師3800多位裡面60歲以上的佔了2200人那大概是六成 |
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那我擔心的就是那會不會有傳承的問題如果都是比較高齡的人願意去擔任新傳師那接下來你們想要做到這個世代傳承的語言的延續是不是就卡關了呢 |
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感謝委員 委員所講的三個問題 確實都是我們面對的問題想要請政府單位發出針對幾個問題 再來研議看怎麼推進好 這個再拜託你們回去討論一下那希望之後可以認真看待這個結構性的困境好 謝謝主委感謝 感謝王委員謝謝 謝謝黃婕委員 |
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呃接下來第五位是李貞秀女士李貞秀女士李貞秀女士好確定不在齁那我們請請廖先祥召委好謝謝主席喔那麻煩幫我要請谷主委還有宋董事長 |
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兩位好抱歉今天這個請教一下就是最近有一些我們客委會或是我們基金會的一些投資的電影有一些輿論的討論我想先確認一下我們在決定要做電影出版的時候我們是怎麼樣來評估我們是要用補助的方式還是要用投資的方式來宣傳我們的客家文化 |
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感謝趙薇的提問我們有一套制度 針對電影開發 劇本開發等等的方式各種方式都有可能 |
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那你們怎麼樣子去因為現在大家可能之前有在討論到我們是不是透過基金會來超過我們一千萬補助的上限嘛那課委會有做說明我們是投資的所以說可能沒有這一千萬然後透過基金會過水的一個概念那大家才會想那會不會有這個假投資真補助的方式來繞過這一千萬的限制所以我才在今天來請教主委跟董事長我們怎麼判斷一個案子電影投資宣揚我們客家文化要用 |
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補助還是投資有沒有一套機制我們最明確的分野點在哪邊還是說今天誰說了算我想這應該不是我們期待大家聽到的答案而是有沒有一套制度去做這樣子的一個決策感謝趙偉 |
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我們客人會針對這個確實我們內部都非常的嚴謹會有一套的程序至於這個這麼巨額的到目前為止除了跟公共電視客家電視台合作以外目前是沒有那麼高的補助的方案在我們的系統裡頭那這一次的那個這支片子我們這個是客傳會 |
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所製作的相關的那個機制要請客傳會來說明報告張委員我們在這個那張照片裡的我們這一案我們是用藝文採購案我們在客傳會這邊是並不是補助的那個方式用採購那民間有出資嗎 |
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有有出資所以說我們這些採購案還包含了民間的出資對好那剛剛我講的如果說我們在評估這個要做客家這個影視的創作的時候這個案子會使用採購案的原因是因為他可能已經超過一千萬補助的上限所以我們改用採購案的方式來做執行是這樣的概念嗎 |
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我們在客船會這邊完全沒有補助的機制我們是採投資的方式所以只要我們基金會所做的出版的電影都是採購的方式也就是投資的方式沒有補助的方式這件事情有跟客人討論過嗎 |
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出品錢 有 客委會有沒有提出來這個可能有1000萬的這個1億希望我們去做多一點的論述避免大家剛剛講的是不是因為我們的錢應該大部分的經費都是來自於客委會的補助嘛對不對一年的經費大概應該有超過九成都是客委會的補助那大家就會懷疑是不是透過這個補助我們基金會的方式然後再用超過1000萬的額度來做補助雖然說你們是用這個採購但是對 |
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國人來說就是政府出錢嘛你就是超過一千萬了有沒有規避辦法的這樣子的一個想法所以說你們在做這件事情有跟客委會這邊確認過嗎有沒有違反他們的一些補助的要點甚至是客委會自己本身的一些內規的規定 |
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呃 這個都是合法的那個有沒有確認過啦 有沒有確認過 有確認過有跟客人確認過所以客人會認同我們這個基金會客傳基金會的這個這一次的採購案是好 所以有客人會的配書好 那我確認一下那我們既然是採購嘛那我們就是出品人那他是電影的這個出資嘛那我想確認一下我不是討論你們這個收益多少跟效益的問題啊我想確認一下那我們分論的機制大概是什麼樣子的 |
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我們那個分論是在我們的那個約裡面是漢草文創他那邊是優先分論是那也就是說在投資的成本還沒有攤平之前我們是不會有任何的收益沒錯那我們的這個總投資的成本我們大概是5000萬吧是不是5565萬 |
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5560那民間出資多少那總額大概是多少民間是3445萬三千多也就是說民間的這三千多萬還沒有收回去也就是說票房已經超過三千萬了因為這個電影院還是要有分類嘛對不對也就是說出品方沒有超過三千多萬的時候我們客委會的投資是完全沒有任何的收益回來了 |
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到目前為止整個影片的製作8000多萬那如果說在這個票房這些的回收沒有到達這個製作成本這個時候就是說事實上是沒有我們就是說沒有沒有分論這個可能 |
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對那一部分是分潤嘛那一部分是回本嘛對不對8000多萬那5000多萬是我們租3000多萬他們租也就是說他們3000多萬如果拿回來了拿的回去了那超過3000多萬的又會優先讓我們補足這5000多萬那超過了總投資了之後那才會依照契約去分潤嘛對不對那我們的契約分潤的一個精神大概是按照出資比例嗎還是有其他的另外的一個規定 |
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按照出資比例我想國人也是會認為說補助跟投資它其實是兩個不一樣的概念補助的精神其實補助我們很難去評估它的一個成效可能客戶會平常在做很多的一些補助案的時候我們很難去用它 |
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到底有畢竟這種它是一個精神的一個概念它不是只用單一的金錢的這個指標去衡量的所以說一般來說很少會去質疑補助的一個它的正當性但是當投資的時候 |
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就是跟補助不一樣了投資有賺有賠嘛 申購前應該詳細公開說明書嘛那我們投資方也會考慮一下我們的收益那你們當初在做投資的時候有沒有做過收益這方面的評估有沒有做票房的預估 那跟我們當初的評估有沒有產生多大的落差當時是有票房的預估 但事實上是沒有達到那我們當初的預估大概是怎樣的一個規模 |
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可能就是說大概在類似五千萬這樣子五千萬左右所以說雖然說沒辦法回本但是它具有這個傳播客家精神的一個概念所以說我們還是願意去投資嘛好啦那我就覺得可能當初在做決策的時候為什麼會產生這麼大的一個落差那或許是我們基金會為了要去做檢討的 |
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如果是補助就不會有後面這些問題了但如果是投資那我們立法院就絕對會來對財務的部分來多加的琢磨那也希望說不管是客委會因為你們也是這個錢都是你們補助來的嘛那我們基金會未來都能夠對相關的投資案有一個更為嚴謹的一個 |
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審查的一個流程啦希望說不可能100%的準確嘛這個影音市場有很多變化性但是這個落差太大了會引起大家的質疑就希望說未來大家可能在題材的多元性上面你也知道我們在黨長期質疑我們現在的民進黨政府在電影補助或投資的多元性上面是不足的那是不是 |
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因為多元訊不足的問題導致受眾沒有辦法那麼的廣況也沒有辦法那麼的完美的去散播我們客家的精神我覺得是我們值得去後續去檢討的好不好 以上麻煩主委跟我們董事長謝謝 |
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主席 每一位同仁 請我們客委會我們的股主委 |
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目前我們客委會尤其在過年的時候都會來舉辦收東西本席這邊看了這幾年我們所舉辦的這個成效倒是反應都還蠻熱烈 |
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那尤其我們直年的增加的我們的預算包括109年我們500多萬113年增加到一倍就1100多萬那114年是增加逐年的增加將近1500萬 |
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那可見說這個說東西代表說這是我們客家的文化那我們現在在客家要推動的就是我們的文化文化的傳承還有我們的客家的語言那我們可以借重這個戲劇來宣傳我們的語言讓我們年輕的一輩尤其小朋友他們能去接觸 |
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那你要靠的我們的細劑這效果倒是都不錯那本席在這邊所講的因為在我的選區土層有24萬人口那我們客家族群有將近5萬多個那5萬多個他比例算是非常高那是不是拜託主委我講這應該你很清楚吧 |
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是不是有機會尤其在過年的時候大家都比較喜歡我們說東西就是表示過年的時候大家農作物都收成就是在那裡慶祝是不是我們今年有機會邀請我們來土城演藝場 |
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感謝吳議員 感謝六位優先的考慮地區沒問題啦 六位優先是沒問題好 那在這邊我代表土城人也感謝你啦因為土城的客家客家的租賃有五萬多人所以五萬多人我們在宣傳上效果應該都是不錯啦在這邊我也特別感謝我們的主委那尤其 |
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我們過去所演的一些歷史的電影雖然說我們投入了金額跟我們所收益的這個金額的差距但是我們這是一個歷史一個文化這是我們當然又不注重在賺錢的方面我們就是要讓我們的文化下一傳承那本身是非常認同 |
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那未來我們要怎樣去推動我看啊在去年啊我看我們客委會所舉辦的演唱會演唱會 |
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才能響應更多的我們不管是我們客家人也好啦民眾也好這個族群絕對會會比較大吧因為我們要演就是要人多嘛讓我們的歷史讓我們的文化都可以下去傳承嘛那我看喔像我們上一次喔 |
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包括田馥甄、江美琪、林曉培這些歌手倒是滿受我們客家族群他們的歡迎度都非常高所以我看未來我們還是要除息的潮這個方面下一推動比電影成本然後我們這個歌手要參差一些歌手這樣應該效果會更好 |
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這是本席的建議啦感謝美燕 像客人會 合理費 針對多元形式的入出客家的議題 也要英國的 就不同的形式 |
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講到《野愛天洋》這一部電影那張照片我們坦白說我們也很不滿意啦就是這樣的票房以及內容沒有那麼直接的直指這個歷史的事件我們是相當的不滿意 |
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但是我們不能因為這樣子而就不去探討客家的歷史、事件、議題、社會議題等等的這個確是我們客委會的職責所在故事我們要嚴謹地回頭來嚴謹地檢討到底這過程當中應該可以改進些什麼這是我們責無旁貸的責任 |
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就如同委員說的影視或者是出版品或者是戲劇等等的各種表現的形式都是我們所能夠認同的以及推展的方式我們不會把一個單一的來投入而已 |
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好 謝謝因為我看那個電影我們所投資的就五千多萬嘛那收益有九百多萬啦那嫌失也是有過大啦那為了不讓外面的疑慮是我們該檢討我們還是要檢討是我們該檢討是不滿意是因為這歷史文化我絕對都支持我們課委會啦是好 謝謝感謝理事長好 謝謝謝謝胡啟明委員 謝謝 |
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好,那我們先來請我們的召委,李博義委員好,謝謝,有請谷主委跟宋董事長好,請谷主委跟宋董事長 |
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好謝謝主委跟主委這邊追蹤一下我在上一次在去年10月15號就針對客家幣使用的情形來提出質詢 |
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我包含我主張擴大發放對象那我主張避免數位落差那我也主張希望如果這些兒童沒有金融卡有要擴大使用要怎麼樣克服這些障礙那我看到今年客家幣的這個實施包含所有這個你剛剛有 |
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回答其他委員的問題有說有所有有學課語的這些有課程的這些小朋友都有這個資格了嘛那我覺得這個是很好的我今天要跟主委討論這個政策的內容是說很可惜啦這個是去年度的預算嘛 |
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那去年度的預算我們如果說執行的很好我們今年到現在3月的3月為止是執行你剛說的1.3億執行率60% |
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那有機會今年是可以執行率達標是達到我們完全執行完我們的預算那執行完我們的預算呢其實就是在推廣這個課宇的使用這也是課委會最重要的工作之一 |
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那很遺憾沒有辦法增加的話那如果可以增加的話主委你想要做什麼做什麼樣更推廣更多人來使用客家幣那更多人來用課與消費等等的這些文化來主委你有沒有什麼想法還是說預算沒有過沿用去年的我們就繼續這樣做就好了 |
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感謝美燕今年2.0增加課與學習的學生的使用光是這樣子光是這樣子就吃掉我們所有的預算這我們非常肯定對 但是我們就沒有機會再開放給 |
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這就需要新興計劃嘛沒有多的新興計劃就沒有機會嘛今天送過來如果立法院不審你們就沒有機會增加嘛我的同仁也很傷腦筋我一直說18歲以上的非客級的也有機會來我的同仁都說沒有預算沒有錢這樣所以這是比較可惜的地方 |
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每個委員尤其是有選區的委員或者是代表客家族群的委員其實都很希望這些相關的經費可以增加可以推廣包含客語的使用包含這些海外的我們的客家族群的一些你們今年有在巴西有舉辦的這個活動那包含這個博工的照護站 |
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那包含你們也跟子豐車合作在地方做這個課宇的推廣的演出那包含其他我今天剛剛請這個董事長上來就是要講戲劇方面 |
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其實戲劇也不能完全用這個收潤或者是票房來衡量我覺得該投資客與環境該投資或者是客與戲劇相關的這些內容我覺得我們還是要 |
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不要怕失敗還是要有價值的對客語推廣或者是客家文化有價值相關的戲劇我覺得我還是鼓勵我們客委會跟我們基金會要持續的來投入來請董事長來做一個回應我剛剛看到你看料子怎麼會怕看到賠錢好像會怕但是這次就是要推廣推廣就是要花錢 |
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謝謝張偉的提點事實上一部影片的話就是沒有辦法說完全只用票房來決定它的價值它在於這個文化的面向在歷史的面向還有在人民情感人民的記憶的這個面向是有很多的 |
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這些不能用這個票房的價錢去運算的這些的價值董事長你現在就講得很好啊謝謝主委我的選區齁其實有大量的過去海軍的這個眷村那海軍的眷村他移走了之後呢我們過去我曾經在高雄市政府的時候那也跟高雄市政府文化局 |
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那也跟國防部還有中央文化部,費了好大一番功夫把這個眷村保留下來,做眷村文化保留園區保留的是什麼?保留的不是只有眷村那一個殼,保留的是眷村的文化 |
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那我們客委會現在做的很重要的事情除了保留剛剛主委講的要讓客語的使用率止跌之外我覺得這個客家文化的保存還有包含你在推廣這些商店的客語消費這個客家文化的保存是非常非常值得我們再投入更多的心力讓 |
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客委會讓所有的客家文化不管是語言或者是剛講的戲劇這些都可以不斷的來推廣主委還是期許主委這邊可以做更多的這些推廣即使我們目前的經費很遺憾就是只能沿用去年的計畫沒有新的計畫可以使用在只有去年的這些計畫可以使用的話我還是希望主委可以提出如果有機會我們客委會還希望可以做什麼 |
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感謝委員我們想要做的事很多好 有沒有新的計畫你可以在這邊講一下我們來跟所有全國的客家鄉親所有全國的人民來爭取旁觀前陣子有實驗 還有實驗提到的語言的部分那語言的部分就還有很多可以做 |
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那這些都牽涉到預算比如說我比如說很多小孩子下課了之後送安親班學課語是我們目前已經在推動的那到家裡之前的安親班是不是我們也可以介入呢因為透過語言的傳遞讓這個非常好就是類似 |
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長輩去博工造戶站小朋友上學的小朋友他下課有一個課餘的安心環境沒錯沒錯沒錯而這個都需要經費要有經費才能做到都需要經費我們共同來努力是謝謝感謝你好謝謝我們李博義召委的執行謝謝那我們下一位林愛琴林愛琴委員好 |
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我非常肯定這兩個政策的進行,但我認為 |
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這兩個政策應該是從規模的擴張走向我們的實質的深化首先我要肯定 科委會這幾年的努力包括財富戰確實做出規模不過今年3月已經增加到611站特別是在苗栗 桃園 新竹這幾個客家的重點區那個網路也非常的密科委會也持續我們擴張高齡照顧的場域值得認同可是我要特別提醒主委 |
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包含這副站已經不是一個事半的階段而是正式納入到長照3.0的核心政策當規模做到後我們必須面對兩個嚴肅的問題一個是實際的照顧的人數二是那個預算被稀釋所以主委站點在擴張可是每個站分配的資源在縮水如何確保這611站的服務品質不被稀釋而不是被淪為西極巷弄的一個長照站多掛一個牌子而已 |
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對 那個高設計的問題 我們知道我們的預算規模 比就是這麼大我們希望照顧到所有 做到就省錢 省錢要賺錢那就只好真的是把預算給降低 那是很務實的那不然我們就會減少站點 |
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這個是很兩難的決策主委站點要夠淺才有辦法做到一定的規模所以外界常有疑慮認為博工照護站跟衛福部的西級的長照站高度重疊雖然地方回應有增加課宇的志工老幼共學等元素可是我們還是要講清楚博工照護站究竟只是文化加值的據點還是在高齡支持體系中 |
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有補上的其他部會做不到的哪些不可替代的一個功能先跟VM報告我們博工照護站還是要架構在衛福部西級相當據點之上有這個基本我們才有才能夠來申請這是第一個第二個是我們英文這語言是很有魔力很有魅力很有溫暖的 |
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那這個語言是長輩習慣的語言那通常那個人是用他要學會、他熟悉的語言他的那個信任感、他的各種的會增加很多所以你意思是說 白宮政府在老實際點沒有強調那是英文語言 |
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以你責任的責任的方式我們看到目前市集相當照顧站比如說我們今年試著要將繪本導入這個照顧的方式所以用紙本、用合法、用紙紙的、紙錄的責任責任責任的責任 |
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也有一個自主性那個自主的可能所以也要讓另外一個人在學科部分做到抵押上來的希望就是也要提出三個具體的要求一個月內事實上希望主委這邊可以提交功能深化跟品質的精進報告因為我覺得還是要去做一些區隔 |
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主委剛剛講說有些語言的功能我們還是希望能夠在如何補助在受壓縮的狀況下如果達成2026的服務人數的目標還有我覺得還是要去釐清跨部會的協力機制否則這兩個人家會分不太清楚還有預算的指標的轉型就是說不是只有我們的站點數而且要增列到底服務的總人數跟資源不足的補強的 |
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主要的那個成果是什麼再來我們就要來問客家幣因為我覺得這也事實上是做得不錯的地方因為客委會推客家幣的那個方向我認為事實上是有政策上的一個意義在不僅鼓勵到我們的客語的傳承也為了那個活絡客庄的一個經濟可是有兩個目標的情況下我覺得下一步是不是要更要把這個政策的那個排序講得清楚所以想問主委客家幣已經進入到2.0階段了 |
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在講客生活圈的這個大方向下哪些語言傳承的核心設計哪些是店家上線支付工具跟核銷系統的配套工作感謝美燕其實它在2.0還有它再提出的因為1.0它是具有稅籍的店家才可以申請但是2.0加入自然人 |
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也會這樣,因為我們看到在學生上,不只是傳統的市場,還會有自然人在做交易所以我們應該拿進來,擴大講課的範圍和交易範圍,所以部分很不一樣的 |
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所以要提到地推人員因為我們要讓自然人進來自然人會懷疑你是不是詐騙集團所以我們要透過在地熟悉的網路地推人員去宣導這個不是 |
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然後來協助鄉村、學總、學總提起要數位能力支付比較差的長輩而且他又是所謂的商店方的人主委可是你今年也提到未來客家幣可能朝開放全年齡逐步放寬店家範圍就不再限定客庄的店家的方向 |
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我覺得這個政策延伸真的要去討論因為我也諮詢那個課委會這個做法未來能不能守住把人帶進那個課專讓課宇進入到日常生活的原始設計當政策往全零的時候非課專的店家擴大時那主委說明一下如何守住原本對課專的重點支持 |
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客庄還是比較有大比例 擴大比例會使用合法 擴大比例在都市還是更少 所以我們評估在各種地方的點和營業 還是會更多因為時間關係 |
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請我們注意來下一頁就是是不是針對客家幣2.0我大概提出四個要求就是一樣就是在1.0結束的一個月內是不是能夠提交檢討跟2.0的設計的對照報告還有我就要公佈我們的查核標準因為這是上路前應該明文規定一個你的密客的查核機制對方到底有沒有講客家法 |
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然後指標的獨立的拆分就是說把下一年度的預算當中把績效那個強制拆分為語言傳承的指標跟客庄的經濟指標不要混淆視聽還要釐清我們的工具的分工就客家幣跟客庄的產業價值的補助的一個角色跟排序跟分工好 感謝 感謝 感謝別人謝謝 謝謝 謝謝林月琴委員 |
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接下來我們請徐富奎 欸對不起接下來請鄭振前委員 鄭振前委員 鄭振前委員不在蘇巧慧委員 蘇巧慧委員 蘇巧慧委員提書面質詢何新淳委員 何新淳委員 何新淳委員不在林楚英委員 林楚英委員 林楚英委員不在接下來我們請徐富奎委員 |
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許議員 請質詢感謝主席 有請顧主委市議員 |
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主委我們要請松仗業在屏東県拜面感謝六隊運動會還有朱天義站跟佛通法院的主委請指揮屏東的六隊來跟我們加油不過有機的問題 |
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還是要請主席提出,主席我相信這個客家幣1.0的政策,像你搬到東亞門,我們的消費金額都一億啦,我們要請各位同仁,當然我們看到各位同仁給予的量額的績效,給予的成果,今天有打算推2.0的版本嗎? |
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有,我們也在目前體驗進行當中,在做目的地上好,我看到您的報告有寫說,我們要發放的對象只要由我們受到合格的中科學生和老師中科的內容 |
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目前有擴大到這樣 本來還是有維持通過向年齡層向年齡層向年家庭對象以外學學法 參與學校課程 學生都可以利用 |
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主委我記得我宋白的委員會我曾經討論過一個問題已經延萬年推的那個客家認證的那個政策規劃我們看到很多學生的 生人的 總得有靠那個思想 同時有那個獎勵但是我們看到靠思靠學的 |
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實際上在人們的生活的面向 雙口味面向 讓他們說合法的記載 記載過程又沒有改動我們想這個政策是不是有點 沒有很弱勢 因為時刻有這個問題 主委有什麼看法嗎也不算啦 通過認證跟要用合法去交通的事情 那沒有按摩的關係 |
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但是認真去待本生育的也要學習要認一個英雄的藝術的榮耀的方式所以我們透過過度的鑑託 比如說過度的創作包括養生的創作 戲劇的創作等等來鼓勵使用學法 因為像學生比那個 |
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媒介就不應該跟那些說客的商店對話所以其實我們都想要用的方法就是本人有機會說客一件事情 |
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主要是提醒他們的提防如果說政策推動改善但是我們希望透過推動核加幣政策2.0使本人的生育和種批有更多機會更好、更健康讓他們的好家文化傳承、意涵存在 |
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主要是因為祖父可能會思考於他不是變成像你前兩年發的阿頓的客家傳承沒有幫助到沒差的這件事希望我提醒你提防 |
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今天我想感謝我們的主委我們屏東的文化發電機的政策改善後補完充值萬萬女僕的古書和神秘我們的圖書館我們想要空間改造我們將樂觀啟程屏東的六堆文化的核心 |
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地帶,我們想不是只有硬體建設做好如何的,也就是軟體的用於未來怎麼樣強化甚至本業的老人家、生育的、學生的,用於使用圖書館,主要有什麼看法嗎? |
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目前黑格斯已經辦公在圖書館我們會贊出有關核桿的書籍在圖書館裡邊我們會有核發工具師顧慮提供資訊 提圖書館 |
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鼓勵大家去審慎經濟還有行業公司營業、公共公司營業日報、圖書館用合法來講解公司所以沒錯,我們提供的能力也要用來提升 |
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主委,我實際上在徒手間,未來針對現代學生的一等於一百塊,家屬的比例,應該要做一些調查。其實我可以說,這個做法,他要給我們講,一定壓力啦。 |
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鄉長或館長其實應該有責任,譬如台灣主委說的,我們重用補助金幣判罰通,但是我們嚴重要求他再重視那一塊,但是我們鄉鎮一定要加油,主委要再考慮,譬如天書嗎?絕對,我們一不用詞,譬如天書提供說,感染閱讀的習慣要避免 |
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我們想事件改變,因為我們在客房中心,謝主任也在現場謝主任昨天早上說他對核瓦文化重視,還有六堆文化園區,我們想都有一些例行的活動攀,但是主任有什麼想法? |
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好像每一年應該要推陳促進,要發明不窮的東西,你也想辦法嗎?陸隊的發言期,之前陸隊的講,是講改革法,我們用陸隊來連結如果不在鄉鎮,我們用來連結 |
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施主啊,當然,因為這樣可以被吸引入來嘛,這樣就被了解黑家文化,都要去研究的,當然,入對黑家的團體,那可以入入在北部研究,會帶動黑家的入入入對文化研究的方式啦。 |
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平常是這樣辦法通,法通要有陸續的團體去保養可能對陸續的環境發展會有幫助我拜託主委一件事情,其實園區當然法通很重要,但是希望法律鄉鎮應該要行處理,要辦法律鄉鎮有盲窮用的法通比如說我們宣布客家傳播基金會,也有針對我們的 |
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不用去聽人家的說話,還要給佛陀佛陀去錄影,讓佛陀佛好安寧,讓佛陀佛入天地圓圓的形態還要培植我們的聚團,不用去開天堂做表演主委要支持這樣嗎?我們願意來,主委支持我們在時代下,有什麼想法,我們跟主委討論一下,拜託謝主,我們就聽主委感謝,感謝市委 |
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謝謝許富奎委員接下來我們請蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員不在我們請林倩琦委員林倩琦委員林倩琦委員不在我們請王洪輝委員好謝謝主謝謝我們主席啊我請我們的谷主委 |
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主委好剛才很多的委員都提到我們的客家幣我們的客家幣是主要是我們 |
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所以我們這一次的客家幣跟過去的客庄券它有一些不一樣主要它其中除了希望能夠振興我們客庄的經濟消費之外還有一個就是要去推廣讓更多的人能夠去講客家話沒有錯吧好 |
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但是我想這次的這個客家幣因為它有一些特約商店我去查了一下我必須要講就說我查了一下在整個的客家幣它的特約商店裡面我們的雙北並沒有特約商店雙北沒有特約商店那我覺得這是非常遺憾的事情 |
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因為雖然我們知道比如說像新竹、苗栗、桃園有很多客家莊但是在雙北地區客家人口的排行其實是很多的 |
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這個我想主委也知道一定很清楚所以像新北市在我們各縣市裡面我們新北市是排名第二佔16.7%我們台北市也排名第四佔17.4%所以呢如果以新北跟台北雙北啊他大概有36%的客家人口之多那同樣的我相信我們在這一次的如果透過客家幣除了要這個這個 |
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這個振興消費之外還有一個就是能夠讓更多的人口能夠接觸客家化來講客家話那麼但是雙北沒有是不是就我覺得就是美中不足的地方所以在這邊我是不是也可以具體的來爭取雖然已經這個就是他的時間已經有一段時間是不是可以來爭取就是像這個雙北地區他也有很多的客家人口 |
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好 感謝榮議員 確實在1點我們沒有開封讀詞提起 只提到學種提起以我們同道各道的聲音也許議員提出來 在雙北地區我們2.0 今年也許開示在那裡2.0開封全台灣的選項 但是最主要還是要外公學的選項 正是要用學法來 |
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稍微他的交易的語言一樣會捏到當然的那些特約商店 |
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我想我剛才講其實因為雙北它有也有非常多的客家人口那其實我們在一些大眾運輸我們也都一定這個客家化也一定是這個必備的那所以如果說未來就是各縣市能夠特約商店能夠推廣到各縣市我們絕對是樂見而我本身至少台北市我也幫這個雙北地區一起請命因為我們是一日生活圈一日的通行圈 |
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那另外就是我們現在客家幣的這個政策預估是說可以創造4.6億元的產值這個是當時我們客委會所做的這個報告但是如果你去看過去的客庄旅遊券那這個是這個 |
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中央政府總預算裡面所提到的就是別說客庄留卷的1.0 2.0他的經費一共是3.5億元一共3.5億元那他帶動的民間消費金額達到23億元所以如果兩相比較的話 |
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那麼看起來恐怕我們客家幣所要創造的產值就要再加一把勁就要再加一把勁因為也許就說過去當然也是因為疫情的關係它是因為疫情的關係才開始出現的客裝券所以這一部分希望就是能夠更為加強好不好 |
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時間暫停一下 謝謝主委我請客家電視台台長主委可以請回座 謝謝 |
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我要特別講一下就是客家廚房這個節目我們所看到其實在我們很多的政府的宣傳裡面客家廚房算是比較成功的他討論度也很高然後他的這個就是也得了不少獎 |
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那我想直接先請教 因為有第一季第二季請問一下 那客家廚房有沒有規劃進行第三季的製播 |
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首先想問VN的肯定非常感謝委員的肯定因為你那些學校天使隊第一輩有台灣的學校從以前過去跟他自己說香港不論做天洋還是做一流戲都做得很好故事我就是希望說像台灣學校 |
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包括文化的內容、食材、其他東西,都在韓國提供電視機、電視機、電視機、電視機、電視機、電視機、電視機 |
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就像馬來西亞的Astro在亞洲方面也在建模同時同促前期希望有機會做T3軌但若是說NVIDIA前十年在地獨與東東韓國的民生要看其中的動機和其中那些亞洲岸的營業持續向台灣的黑客添輸的合作不過這會成為我們技術大變的目標 |
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我必須要講就是說事實上我們作為監督者這個民意代表如果政府單位有做到好的地方我們也應該要拍拍手的但是我們就是會做一個強力的監督那因為我覺得客家廚房它是在我們很多你今天看各部會的這個相關的行銷它算是成功的案例它真的是成功的案例所以第一個第三季你可能有一些就是你要看到檔期的問題 |
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那另外呢因為我們剛剛特別提到就是有關於我們的客家的旅遊美食還有我們客家莊的消費怎麼樣創生客家等等那這個節目呢當然因為它是一個實境秀因為它也到韓國去拍攝它會變成是說把這個我們的這個客家廚房客家美食把它帶到了一個國際性的討論而且因為它用實境秀的方式現在實境秀非常非常的紅嘛 |
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年輕人非常容易接受所以我覺得也可以利用像這樣子的一個手法這樣的一個成功案例去把它進一步的去推展到有關旅遊啦或是其他我們相關的商圈或客家莊的經濟好不好那我覺得這一點我覺得我們該肯定的也一定會肯定然後我們也基本上樂見有第三季的這個呈現好不好好 謝謝 |
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謝謝王宏威委員接下來我們請徐欣盈委員質詢謝謝謝謝主席 本席有請谷主委主委好 您好主委好 首先我請問您 |
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聽完王委員說講話,我講話,妳要推動台價講話會,妳感覺妳要推動的成效怎麼辦?我知道我要動家有,還要很加油。還要很加油,我看到 |
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那我們看到好像特優有縣市政府拿過特優嗎有有苗栗縣喔幾十年喔有拿到苗栗我現在說的是特優有嗎 |
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所以縣市都沒有人拿過特優 |
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沒有嘛,我問的原來縣市和蒙古人怎麼有特優啊那我有看到苗栗縣,苗栗縣有拿過優等然後再來都是加等嘛,都是加等所以我們看到我們這個課宇的推廣我們符合我們課委會的標準的其實縣市不多,就是縣市不多但是我的問題 |
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能不能突然間你們對於這個客家委員會推動客語為通行語的成效平和及獎勵作業要點 |
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突然改變他的這種審核標準,這也要年齡,主婦你懂嗎?不懂這是為什麼呢?因為裡面有很多的指標,多項的指標那些指標真的可以對應到鼓勵大眾來說客語這件事情 |
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所以過去的指標通常都是在縣市公所裡頭的人員我們現在有一部分的指標把它拿到那現在就是說原本可能6000名突破就可以拿到優等那你現在 |
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能夠突破六千人的縣市就不多了你又把標準提高到一萬三這個對於在努力推廣客家化的縣市會很大的挫折因為你看你推廣 |
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就好比說老師說我們請大家要努力考到60分以上最好還有80分結果60分的就很少了你現在呢及格60分就很少了你現在把及格又變又提高到75分那大家都不想好好念書啦好 我就兩位特別要說啊我們新竹縣政府啊我們新竹縣政府該 |
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推動客家不遺餘力所以我們新竹縣是客家人口比例全國最高我們總人數不多所以人數 |
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跟其他縣市比不贏包括直轄市嘛但我們人口比例最高所以在新竹縣客家化各方面我們推動起來我們很希望是把這個客家文化好好的推廣跟傳承而且也是一個很值得也一定會有好成績的一個縣市嘛 對不對那所以縣政府在過去它的預算從346萬 |
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他自己縣政府編預算在做客家的事編到6370萬英語才化法國還有縣市多了很多的預算才化法國才幾個月而已今年才到4月而已公教認證人數也從560人提升到了3370人 |
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那學生認證的從只有327也提升到3584人那社區的課程也從兩班變成292班你看都是幾十倍的成長結果他們很努力想要往優等來爭取 |
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那已經快接近了 你就突然把六千人的優等你又提高到一萬三 這對地方很大的打擊所以我要問 你們為什麼突然提高 有什麼充分的理由因為你整個的推廣 就推廣得不好 然後個縣市也很難達到 |
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那你現在又把標準提高,你這在打擊地方啊沒有這樣啦,我們的設想都不是打擊,都是要有一個目標本來要朝向啦你現在六千人就已經不多了,你知道優等一直都只有苗栗縣,六千人那你現在又突然把六千優等改到一萬三,我不知道 |
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我們二十幾個縣市現在我請教主委二十幾個縣市拿過優等的你跟我講 |
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沒有得到的 我知道沒有幾個就是苗栗而已結果你只有一個苗栗然後我們應該是想辦法讓更多縣市它達到這個程度啊新竹縣這麼努力 結果被澆冷水萊迪委員是在為新竹縣請命其實應該說我們是為努力的請命那你看其他縣市它連優等甚至加等都沒有的 |
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他根本不會想甩你他根本客家話他就不會想努力去做難免回頭來再來檢討看看所以本席真的要請你們第一個你如果要改我是看不到你們音樂也講不出來你為什麼要突然這樣改 |
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那你突然改你沒有任何理由而且你前面定的標準不是說前面定的標準大家都達到全部都等於你一個階段一個階段大家都上岸了你再往下一個階段不是沒有人跟得上你的腳步你就繼續往上哇這個很打擊地方 |
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因為行業通行業已經六年了六年一個整個階段我就問這六年這六年你優等有誰你現在馬上跟我說這六年只有苗栗縣政府你六年來只有一個縣市達到優等然後你現在就一直把標準提高你應該要想著六年只有一個那你要怎麼再去鼓勵更多人達到優等 |
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我相信大家聽完一定認同所以現在就是說 有點像只有一個優等生其他學生你要讓他跟上啊我們一般30個人 我還有20幾個都跟不上 |
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有一兩個或兩三個他在努力跟的時候你教他冷水其實這個政策這樣做真的太打擊地方了最後不好意思我再用一點時間就是我們推廣客家文化 |
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我們希望有更多生活的活動 生活的推廣方式我們也想建議我們客委會 譬如說在生活中我們是不是辦一些野餐音樂會既然在那裡放一些善歌 客家歌謠還有客家流行音樂 然後又可以吃著我們的客家美食 |
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類似這種讓大家在生活中可以來體會感受客家文化那這種活動是不是我們可以多鼓勵甚至我們有一些專案給各縣市他們可以來做來申請這個是第一個那再來就是我們振興我們客家的一些產業的部分是不是客會也可以多輔導我們有一些 |
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可能一般人會覺得那個是有的時候比較感覺是鄉下人吃的可是你稍微包裝以後大家覺得又好吃然後又想吃像這個部分客會是不是可以積極的來做我想我再加問這個問題 |
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感謝委員 您給的建議我們都跟持開放的態度討論形成一個政策跟提防政府和民間沙灘合作的推動委員的建議我們領域參考對啊 因為香港政府有很多的建議我們做的群眾辦的 |
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分配一下那怎麼樣在我們課語的推廣更生活化這樣子來落實除了你看你考試你已經讓人家努力考試你都讓他很挫折那你給一些生活一點的讓更多人我們是希望包含不是客家人他們都很願意來講客家人你看剛剛王洪威委員說得動作我要說我也要說 |
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登記諮詢委員除不在場者其餘均與諮詢完畢 |
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委員蘇巧慧、邱振軍、徐欣盈、丁學忠所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報另外李貞秀女士提出書面行政院可以不必答覆書面質詢跟未答覆部分請相關單位於一週內以書面答覆並複製本會本次會議到此結束現在散會 |
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結束了 |