iVOD / 17309

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IVOD_ID 17309
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17309
日期 2026-03-30
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-20-6
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 6
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 20
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 財政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2026-03-30T08:31:02+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-30T12:13:00+08:00
影片長度 03:41:58
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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會議時間 2026-03-30T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議(事由:邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告,並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 現在開始開會
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 時間綜合名額115年3月25日星期三
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 9時至10時46分
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 決定1
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 報告及詢答完畢
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 秘書處龍瑞祥處長
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 會計處郭淑慧處長
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 資訊處陳工處長
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 則是張淑慧主任
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 法務事謝佳文主任
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 中央印製廠林宗武總經理
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 中央照片廠葉茉清廠長
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 財經資訊股份有限公司林國良董事長
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 今日一審安排邀請中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 楊總財經龍列席業務報告
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 現在請楊總財經席業務報告
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 各位委員各位女士先生
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 今天誠邀前來貴委員會報告
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 本行業務自感榮幸
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 健全銀行業務維護對內及對外幣值穩定
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 兼顧協助經濟發展以下
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 緊救國內外經濟金融情勢
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 本行執行貨幣信用與外匯政策
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 等主要業務提出報告
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 進行會試指教
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 第二月國際經濟金融情勢
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 掛五一
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 預期本年全球經濟成長力下滑
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 本年三月
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transcript.whisperx[92].text S&P Global Market Intelligence
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 假設戰爭於本年四月中旬前和緩
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 預測本年全年經濟成長力
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 由上年的2.9%降至2.6%
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 主要經濟體預測值亦都下調
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 掛五二
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 國際油價高漲全球同棚壓力升溫
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 同棚壓力
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 預測本年全球同棚率為3.2%
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 第四頁
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 二上年十月以來
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 費的兩度降息
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transcript.whisperx[110].text AECB維持政策利益不變
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 人行則延續寬鬆貨幣政策
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 近期主要經濟體公債殖利率多走高
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 美元指數回升
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 全球股價指數
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 至歷史高點回落
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 第七頁
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 四
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 貿易政策發展極其影響
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 主要央行貨幣政策調整路徑
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transcript.whisperx[124].text AI發展至經濟效益極其影響
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 中國大陸內需疲弱與產能過剩等問題
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 當諸多不確定因素人需持續關注
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 後續發展及影響
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 第八頁
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 國內經濟金融情勢
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 依上年臺灣經濟成長率
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 近十五年新高
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 穩健成長
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 則係近十五年的新高
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 掛二
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 隨AI需求超乎預期
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 本行預測
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 本年臺灣經濟成長率為7.28%
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 國內外主要機構
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 對本年臺灣經濟成長率
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 預測平均值為6.4%
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 第九頁
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 三
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 目前本行評估
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 美國新關稅政策對本行
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 因素有限
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 中東戰事增添全球
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 經濟下行風險
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 取決戰事持續
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 期間強度與地理
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 以地理範圍
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 請翻開第十四頁
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 十三頁
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 三
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 上年通膨力反覆回降
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 本行將持續密切關注
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 中東戰事對臺灣通膨之影響
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 二
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 續降為1.66%
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 首度低於2%
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 不含輸國籍能源之核心
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transcript.whisperx[170].text CPI連增率由2024年至1.88
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 續降為1.66%
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 十四月掛五二
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 分別為1.23%1.93%
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 十五月掛五三
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 並將持續關注
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 核心CPI連增率預測值
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 之同為1.63
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 分別上修為1.801.75%
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 國內外主要機構對本年
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 臺灣CPI連增率預測值
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 介於1.5至2.22%
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 平均為1.74%
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 依本行維持政策利益不變
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 有助整體經濟金融穩健發展
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 掛五一本年三月
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 本行理監事維持政策利益不變
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 二本行適度調整
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 選擇性新的管制措施
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 將全國治安人第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 過戶待管制程序上限
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 由五成調升為六成
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 維持無寬限期
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 請翻開二十五頁
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 四
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 二十六月
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 三
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 本年二月底本行外存底為
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 六千零五五十五億美元
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 包括官方準備資產為
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 掛無疑本行以籌組並召開
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 新台幣操券改版主題資訊委員會
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 且達成多項具體結論及建議
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 作為本行後續相關規劃之重要參考
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 四十一月本行持續穩步推動CPTC研究計畫
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 四十二月掛無疑建立零售型CPTC知數位經由平台
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 四三月掛無疑舉辦CPTC面對面溝通活動
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 四十四月結語以上緊就國內外經濟金融情勢與本行主要業務提出簡要報告
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 本行業務速成各位委員鼎助與支持
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 今後仍請各位委員實事指教
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 謝謝楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 現在開始詢答先做一下宣告
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 每位出席委員發言時間8分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 今日上午10點
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 截止發言登記
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 現一登記順序請登記第一位林德福委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 謝謝主席楊總裁還有與會各列席官員
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 因為先前央行理監事聯席會議的資料來指出
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 整個標普全球公司
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 假設中東的戰爭將在4月中旬前來和緩
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 啊
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 當然我們也希望如此
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 投資的一個啊
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 因為台金院喔
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 預測只有4.05%
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 跟7.28
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 是差將近一半
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 就是3點多
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 第二個因為我們每年每年的那個理事會
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 足夠時間讓我們去掌握更足夠的數據
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 出現嚴重的缺口
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 那也帶動油價上漲
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 直接推升
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 那石化上游的供應鏈吃緊
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 國內的整個石化產業相距
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 請央行說明如果中東戰爭的持續
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 央行4月份你認為要如何去因應
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transcript.whisperx[334].text 對現在目前大家都非常的關心這個通膨
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transcript.whisperx[336].text 通膨我們認為就是說到目前我們把它上修到1.8
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transcript.whisperx[393].text 許多延誤料啊
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 對應該是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[443].text 應該要加快
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transcript.whisperx[446].text 結果前五名分別是
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transcript.whisperx[451].text 還是另有其他的考量
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transcript.whisperx[453].text 我們都可以考量
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transcript.whisperx[454].text 因為你正面正環正環就不少的
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transcript.whisperx[455].text 那個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[457].text 央行這個有負責
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transcript.whisperx[460].text 包括台北101、淡水漁人碼頭
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transcript.whisperx[461].text 玉宮博物院、龜山島等等
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transcript.whisperx[471].text 是可以參考
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transcript.whisperx[479].text 鈔票的耐用度絕對不能比現在的鈔票來得差
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transcript.whisperx[480].text 不然新鈔改版就是製造民眾使用的麻煩
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transcript.whisperx[481].text 委員說的沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[482].text 委員說的很好
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transcript.whisperx[483].text 那個央行總裁
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transcript.whisperx[484].text 廢後你也請總裁提供書面資料讓本級了解
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transcript.whisperx[485].text 紙鈔跟塑膠鈔
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transcript.whisperx[486].text 說不出缺點
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transcript.whisperx[487].text 因為跟全世界各國使用的整個狀況
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transcript.whisperx[488].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[489].text 最後一點
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transcript.whisperx[490].text 對於新鈔改版央行說
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transcript.whisperx[491].text 改版主要是因應舊版台幣黃偽已經過時
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transcript.whisperx[492].text 需要更新讓科技日新月異
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transcript.whisperx[493].text 偽鈔技術也以時俱進
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transcript.whisperx[497].text 只要他們入監以後
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transcript.whisperx[498].text 服刑過後
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transcript.whisperx[499].text 他們一般都重操就業
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transcript.whisperx[500].text 對此央行應該要審慎的考慮
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transcript.whisperx[501].text 這些妨害國幣懲治條例的修法
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transcript.whisperx[502].text 加重處罰這些硬制偽鈔的人
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transcript.whisperx[503].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[504].text 委員的意見我們都會納入參考
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transcript.whisperx[505].text 我希望如此
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transcript.whisperx[506].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[507].text 好謝謝林委員
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transcript.whisperx[508].text 請問各位委員對上次議事錄有意
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transcript.whisperx[509].text 沒有意義議事錄確定
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transcript.whisperx[510].text 現在請第二位諮詢李彥秀委員諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[511].text 謝謝張偉國國旗行總裁
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transcript.whisperx[512].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[513].text 請坐議員楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[514].text 早安總裁我想今天
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transcript.whisperx[515].text 大概財委會的委員大概都還是關注
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transcript.whisperx[516].text 在整個中東的局勢
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transcript.whisperx[517].text 跟後續對於油價通膨
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transcript.whisperx[518].text 跟民眾消費的影響
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transcript.whisperx[519].text 這整個局勢從2月28號到現在
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transcript.whisperx[520].text 我們看到從今年年初的油價
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transcript.whisperx[521].text 每桶從60塊漲到現在90到110區間
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transcript.whisperx[522].text 這樣的一個區間漲幅
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transcript.whisperx[523].text 已經超過50%
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transcript.whisperx[524].text 總裁你在會議上李監事會議後提到
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transcript.whisperx[525].text 根據歷史的經驗
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transcript.whisperx[526].text 這場中東的局勢不會拖延太長
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transcript.whisperx[527].text 這樣子的預估
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transcript.whisperx[528].text 這是根據你過去的判斷
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transcript.whisperx[529].text 但是會不會太過樂觀
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transcript.whisperx[530].text 剛才你也回答林德福委員說
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transcript.whisperx[531].text 如果油價持續在100塊以上的話
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transcript.whisperx[533].text 是沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[535].text 如果當然這不是我們希望預見到的
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transcript.whisperx[536].text 但是很多事情不是掌握在我們身上
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transcript.whisperx[537].text 如果油價是後續持續的
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transcript.whisperx[539].text 因為現在看到的不只是赫姆茲海峽的問題
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transcript.whisperx[540].text 萬一如果曼德海峽也遭到封鎖的話
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transcript.whisperx[541].text 這個是連接紅海亞丁灣跟印度洋
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transcript.whisperx[542].text 整個歐洲跟亞洲重要的航道
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transcript.whisperx[543].text 也就是全世界
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transcript.whisperx[544].text 非常重要兩個運輸油的航道
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transcript.whisperx[546].text 所以身為央行的總裁
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transcript.whisperx[548].text 對不對總裁你了解我意思
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transcript.whisperx[549].text 是是是沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[551].text 委員講的沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[555].text 我們都要有不同的版本去做準備
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transcript.whisperx[556].text 波動現在不只是價格的問題
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transcript.whisperx[563].text 因為這個對於後續對於我們的利息
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transcript.whisperx[564].text 要不要升息
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transcript.whisperx[565].text 都會有衝擊影響
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transcript.whisperx[566].text 是我想中央銀行也不會就是說
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transcript.whisperx[567].text 一開始的時候
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transcript.whisperx[569].text 就是用非常的
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transcript.whisperx[570].text 就是說把它假設說
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transcript.whisperx[574].text 不可能做這樣的一個情境的分析
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transcript.whisperx[575].text 所以你沒有說是
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transcript.whisperx[576].text 所以有委員在講就是說
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transcript.whisperx[579].text 所以我剛剛也有在談
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transcript.whisperx[580].text 就是說我們3月的時候
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transcript.whisperx[581].text 我們是用85塊全年85塊來做情境的分析
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transcript.whisperx[583].text 現在都已經到100了
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transcript.whisperx[585].text 是讓我們意識有價
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transcript.whisperx[586].text 正面意識有價
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transcript.whisperx[587].text 委員我跟您報告就是說
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transcript.whisperx[588].text 80現在都您的意思說
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transcript.whisperx[589].text 現在都已經到100多了
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transcript.whisperx[591].text 不那個是暫時現在目前
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transcript.whisperx[599].text 所以你是整年的預估
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transcript.whisperx[603].text 也不會
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transcript.whisperx[604].text 我們也不需要去預估有120塊
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transcript.whisperx[605].text 萬一有價值120或150的版本
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transcript.whisperx[608].text 就必須要做調整
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transcript.whisperx[609].text 也許啊也許啊
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transcript.whisperx[613].text 它往下的話
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transcript.whisperx[619].text 這大家都不希望看到
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transcript.whisperx[621].text 沒有人可以講
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transcript.whisperx[622].text 因為不是掌握在我們手中
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transcript.whisperx[623].text 到底會是一個什麼樣的狀態跟變化
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transcript.whisperx[624].text 所以未來油價
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transcript.whisperx[625].text 假使是120 150
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transcript.whisperx[628].text 當然有當然有
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transcript.whisperx[656].text 緊縮貨幣政策生息也是
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transcript.whisperx[657].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[676].text 包括現在
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transcript.whisperx[715].text 藥師也預估說
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transcript.whisperx[717].text 會高達三成
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transcript.whisperx[719].text 今年要選議員的朋友跟我講
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transcript.whisperx[721].text 已經公告所有帆布要漲兩成
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transcript.whisperx[725].text 影響程度其實是非常大的
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transcript.whisperx[728].text 原物料你剛剛預估
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transcript.whisperx[757].text 那個美伊戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[758].text 這個戰爭所導致的供給面
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transcript.whisperx[759].text 一定是要供給面的措施來
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transcript.whisperx[760].text 正才因為我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[761].text 這是一個跨部會的合作
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transcript.whisperx[762].text 是是是沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[763].text 穩定物價包括你手邊
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transcript.whisperx[764].text 可以的工具
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transcript.whisperx[765].text 財政部的可以工具
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transcript.whisperx[769].text 2.0你的看法
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transcript.whisperx[770].text 過去新清安1.0在實施的時候
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transcript.whisperx[771].text 很多人認為說
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transcript.whisperx[772].text 跟你的央行打房的政策
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transcript.whisperx[773].text 事實上是相互衝突的
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transcript.whisperx[775].text 而新的2.0有幾個政治就是
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transcript.whisperx[777].text 取消部分利息的補貼
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transcript.whisperx[778].text 還有年齡限制成為80條款
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transcript.whisperx[781].text 有沒有找你溝通過
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transcript.whisperx[783].text 應該做什麼樣的調整
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transcript.whisperx[787].text 回答的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[788].text 第一個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[790].text 跟我們的選擇新清安委
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transcript.whisperx[791].text 是不是有衝突
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transcript.whisperx[793].text 是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[795].text 對弱勢者給他一個信用
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transcript.whisperx[797].text 目前我在媒體上看到
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transcript.whisperx[798].text 2.0政策你全部都支持
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transcript.whisperx[799].text 沒有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[807].text 好所以目前看起來
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transcript.whisperx[811].text 基本上看起來
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transcript.whisperx[813].text 他那個是
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transcript.whisperx[814].text 我不知道他的消息來源
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transcript.whisperx[815].text 是從哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[830].text 到最後應該是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[842].text 亂中有序
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transcript.whisperx[855].text 要很定
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transcript.whisperx[864].text 這是可控的
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transcript.whisperx[890].text 35000多點
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transcript.whisperx[902].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[903].text 我不是股市的專家
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transcript.whisperx[904].text 但是價格
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transcript.whisperx[905].text 包括匯率對股市
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transcript.whisperx[906].text 對什麼的金融資產
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transcript.whisperx[907].text 上上下下
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transcript.whisperx[908].text 那都是正常的
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transcript.whisperx[909].text 只會說比較怕說
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transcript.whisperx[910].text 他上漲的太高結果跌下來
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transcript.whisperx[911].text 跌的太重
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transcript.whisperx[912].text 我們過去有沒有上漲太高
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transcript.whisperx[913].text 上漲太高
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transcript.whisperx[914].text 我個人
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transcript.whisperx[915].text 我不是股市的專家
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transcript.whisperx[916].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[917].text 我也不要在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[918].text 做某種的
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transcript.whisperx[919].text 有些股民
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transcript.whisperx[920].text 有些說他聽了不爽快
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transcript.whisperx[921].text 我想我還是不要發表意見好了
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transcript.whisperx[922].text 你剛才就發表很多了
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transcript.whisperx[923].text 你剛才就發表很多了
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transcript.whisperx[924].text 不用了
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transcript.whisperx[925].text 這個楊金龍總裁
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transcript.whisperx[926].text 現在股市上下
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transcript.whisperx[928].text 什麼都不怕
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transcript.whisperx[930].text 什麼都不怕
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transcript.whisperx[931].text 不是
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transcript.whisperx[932].text 還是要謹慎
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transcript.whisperx[934].text 都不大一樣
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transcript.whisperx[935].text 我在這邊講的時候我沒辦法對每一個人
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transcript.whisperx[937].text 不要股市急著上上
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transcript.whisperx[938].text 錢在相殺
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transcript.whisperx[939].text 不要股市急著上上
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transcript.whisperx[941].text 要謹慎
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transcript.whisperx[942].text 投資人要謹慎
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transcript.whisperx[943].text 你今天講說我們央行
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transcript.whisperx[944].text 估算優價一年85塊錢
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transcript.whisperx[945].text 一桶
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transcript.whisperx[946].text 這個我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[947].text 現在我們了解
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transcript.whisperx[948].text 大部分的機構都是
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transcript.whisperx[949].text 他現在的中位數
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transcript.whisperx[950].text 大部分
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transcript.whisperx[952].text 可是如果萬一漲到150
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transcript.whisperx[953].text 那到時候
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transcript.whisperx[954].text 再重新
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transcript.whisperx[955].text 重新
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transcript.whisperx[956].text 做一桶
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transcript.whisperx[957].text 150是什麼概念
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transcript.whisperx[958].text 講到150就跟他打仗
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transcript.whisperx[959].text 委員我
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transcript.whisperx[960].text 也可以這麼說
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transcript.whisperx[961].text 如果漲到200塊
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transcript.whisperx[962].text 漲到250塊
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transcript.whisperx[963].text 我覺得這種機率
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transcript.whisperx[964].text 都不是很高以目前來講
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transcript.whisperx[965].text 我也可以說
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transcript.whisperx[966].text 漲到1000塊
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transcript.whisperx[967].text 這個機率就幾乎近乎零
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transcript.whisperx[968].text 所以這個還是要看機率
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transcript.whisperx[969].text 你要小心喔
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transcript.whisperx[970].text 你要講說漲到1000塊大家嚇死喔
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transcript.whisperx[971].text 我說機率是零
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transcript.whisperx[972].text 我說機率是零
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transcript.whisperx[973].text 1000塊一年漲到1000塊
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transcript.whisperx[974].text 所以我就說我的意思就是說
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transcript.whisperx[975].text 在這邊講說他要漲到哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[976].text 要有依據
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transcript.whisperx[977].text 不要隨便說我是為200塊
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transcript.whisperx[978].text 會升百塊
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transcript.whisperx[979].text 因為現在一句有100多啦
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transcript.whisperx[980].text 沙烏地阿拉伯的官員講說會180
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transcript.whisperx[981].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[982].text 他在講這一句話的意思
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transcript.whisperx[983].text 是說可能會
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transcript.whisperx[984].text 漲到這個某一個時點
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transcript.whisperx[985].text 會漲到這個點
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transcript.whisperx[987].text 有可能嗎
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transcript.whisperx[988].text 這個就是說他的機率
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transcript.whisperx[989].text 是怎麼樣所以這個是要用機率
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transcript.whisperx[990].text 去去去
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transcript.whisperx[991].text 打仗打到年底就可能啦
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transcript.whisperx[992].text 怎麼不可能打仗一直打到年底
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transcript.whisperx[993].text 不過這個機率
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transcript.whisperx[994].text 也不高
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transcript.whisperx[995].text 這個機率也不高
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transcript.whisperx[997].text 我剛剛從歷史的經驗來看
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transcript.whisperx[998].text 然後第二個我就說
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transcript.whisperx[999].text 美國的副總統他也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1000].text 可能是四桌倒六
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transcript.whisperx[1001].text 我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[1003].text 可能我們
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transcript.whisperx[1004].text 會稍微應該要比較相信一點
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transcript.whisperx[1005].text 所以就是
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transcript.whisperx[1006].text 再兩個禮拜再計數
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transcript.whisperx[1007].text 我也不敢這麼說因為他也沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[1008].text 做
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transcript.whisperx[1009].text 他也沒辦法做這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1010].text 所以這個是兩兆之間
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transcript.whisperx[1011].text 這個有一家一直漲
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transcript.whisperx[1012].text 會產生全球性的
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transcript.whisperx[1013].text 同盆這一句話對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1014].text 他會上全球的
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transcript.whisperx[1015].text 同盆看他第一個他漲的幅度
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transcript.whisperx[1018].text 可能就不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1019].text 每一個國家的漲幅就會不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1021].text 對時有的需求
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transcript.whisperx[1022].text 對時有的需求他就不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1023].text 台灣的需求很高
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transcript.whisperx[1025].text 韓國相較日本我們需求
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transcript.whisperx[1026].text 是相較比他們還低
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transcript.whisperx[1028].text 對我們有進口但是
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transcript.whisperx[1029].text 他進口的量還是比我們高
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transcript.whisperx[1031].text 我們是很高的
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transcript.whisperx[1032].text 央行我看你這裡
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transcript.whisperx[1033].text 要算你們隨時準備
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transcript.whisperx[1034].text 銀紙就是要
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transcript.whisperx[1035].text 維持在30萬塊錢對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1036].text 你說你說我們要
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transcript.whisperx[1038].text 什麼32塊錢
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transcript.whisperx[1039].text 匯率我們還
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transcript.whisperx[1040].text 一直都說匯率是
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transcript.whisperx[1041].text 由供需來決定
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transcript.whisperx[1042].text 供需決定沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1043].text 確實就是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[1047].text 有影響到
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transcript.whisperx[1050].text 那就是把逼迫
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transcript.whisperx[1051].text 32塊就是了
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transcript.whisperx[1054].text 一直都不會就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1056].text 我們扁的防線是在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[1058].text 都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1060].text 委員報告就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1062].text 中央銀行在現在目前
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transcript.whisperx[1063].text 這個通膨的一個議題上
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transcript.whisperx[1064].text 第一個我們要
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transcript.whisperx[1074].text 全部100塊200塊500塊1000塊2000塊
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transcript.whisperx[1076].text 我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[1077].text 還是在考量
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transcript.whisperx[1081].text 鈔票的
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transcript.whisperx[1083].text 就是說幾張幾張
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transcript.whisperx[1084].text 像有的都有8張的
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transcript.whisperx[1092].text 100塊錢的市佔率
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transcript.whisperx[1107].text 比較低他就把它淘汰掉
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transcript.whisperx[1108].text 沒有這個是一個搭配
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transcript.whisperx[1110].text 剛剛委員就說這一張不要
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transcript.whisperx[1112].text 整體來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[1121].text 然後他就把它
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transcript.whisperx[1123].text 你足夠要花多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[1124].text 做改版
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transcript.whisperx[1125].text 花多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[1127].text 如果說改版的話
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transcript.whisperx[1128].text 所以拖拖多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[1131].text 50億
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transcript.whisperx[1134].text 就是說我們反正都用
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transcript.whisperx[1135].text 張數來計算
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transcript.whisperx[1136].text 1.5
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transcript.whisperx[1137].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1139].text 說實在
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transcript.whisperx[1141].text 第七波的信用管制
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transcript.whisperx[1142].text 從打草堂
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transcript.whisperx[1146].text 現在有硬著陸嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1151].text 所以你現在為止市場穩定力放寬
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transcript.whisperx[1152].text 第二戶可以貸款次數增加
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transcript.whisperx[1153].text 就是想要
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transcript.whisperx[1155].text 要他變成硬著陸
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transcript.whisperx[1156].text 這樣講對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1158].text 要軟著陸
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transcript.whisperx[1159].text 這個就是我們的基調
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transcript.whisperx[1160].text 現在我們就說
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transcript.whisperx[1161].text 房價是在
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transcript.whisperx[1163].text 開端而已
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transcript.whisperx[1164].text 啊
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transcript.whisperx[1169].text 所以央行才出手
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transcript.whisperx[1171].text 不會不會
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transcript.whisperx[1178].text 謝謝主席有請楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1184].text 底下這信用管制會持續進行
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transcript.whisperx[1185].text 是不是這樣子總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1187].text 這只是其中的一點而已
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transcript.whisperx[1188].text 不是說
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transcript.whisperx[1189].text 這點很大點吧
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transcript.whisperx[1190].text 這個也是其中一點
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transcript.whisperx[1191].text 另外一個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1192].text 現在以現在來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[1193].text 譬如說中東的戰事
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transcript.whisperx[1194].text 中東的戰事
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transcript.whisperx[1195].text 中東戰事我們就有信用管制了
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transcript.whisperx[1196].text 所以我們也是必須要非常小心
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transcript.whisperx[1197].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[1198].text 但是其實在這一次的房價過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[1199].text 其實有一個政策
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transcript.whisperx[1200].text 就是新清安
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transcript.whisperx[1201].text 新清安的這個2.0
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transcript.whisperx[1202].text 1.0討論了很多
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transcript.whisperx[1203].text 過去總裁也有講過
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transcript.whisperx[1204].text 因為新清安一開始太過於寬鬆
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transcript.whisperx[1205].text 造成許多負面的影響
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transcript.whisperx[1206].text 央行也付出了很多代價來刪
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transcript.whisperx[1207].text 這是總裁你自己說的喔
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transcript.whisperx[1209].text 接下來2.0要上路
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transcript.whisperx[1210].text 那過去你認為太寬鬆的部分是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1211].text 是不是他那個寬限其實從3年改做5年
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transcript.whisperx[1212].text 應該不是800變成1000
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transcript.whisperx[1213].text 或是講那個貸款
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transcript.whisperx[1214].text 還款的
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transcript.whisperx[1215].text 實現從30變40
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transcript.whisperx[1216].text 到底是哪一個太寬鬆
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transcript.whisperx[1218].text 如果說2.0出現的話
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transcript.whisperx[1219].text 會不會重蹈覆轍
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transcript.whisperx[1220].text 有沒有什麼呼籲
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transcript.whisperx[1221].text 事實上委員也點到了問題了
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transcript.whisperx[1222].text 你也點到了問題了
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transcript.whisperx[1223].text 不過我在想
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transcript.whisperx[1224].text 以財政部還有相關的部會來看
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transcript.whisperx[1225].text 就是說包括內政部
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transcript.whisperx[1227].text 這些都有在
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transcript.whisperx[1228].text 現在都有在
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transcript.whisperx[1229].text 你要不要喊話一下
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transcript.whisperx[1230].text 在央行的高度你認為是不是要縮短
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transcript.whisperx[1232].text 寬限期
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transcript.whisperx[1233].text 如果說據我了解就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1234].text 財政部的資料顯示就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1235].text 很多一部分
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transcript.whisperx[1236].text 都是在3年以下
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transcript.whisperx[1241].text 不是財政部的說明
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transcript.whisperx[1242].text 我是總覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1243].text 當然
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transcript.whisperx[1244].text 就一個
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transcript.whisperx[1246].text 他5年也許對他是
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transcript.whisperx[1247].text 好的
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transcript.whisperx[1249].text 說我個人的看法
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transcript.whisperx[1251].text 我覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1253].text 不好
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transcript.whisperx[1255].text 就這個這款人
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transcript.whisperx[1258].text 不好
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transcript.whisperx[1268].text 這樣的話對他也很好
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transcript.whisperx[1269].text 對銀行也很好
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transcript.whisperx[1272].text 寬限期確實是造成你困擾一個
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transcript.whisperx[1275].text 確實會有造成這種現象
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transcript.whisperx[1276].text 拉回來說
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transcript.whisperx[1277].text 剛剛在講說
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transcript.whisperx[1279].text 這個部分普遍
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transcript.whisperx[1284].text 違約潮的話一般的購買方
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transcript.whisperx[1285].text 他可能的
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transcript.whisperx[1286].text 造成違約金會被拿走
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transcript.whisperx[1287].text 之外也會造成許多的困擾
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transcript.whisperx[1288].text 所以你現在的這個
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transcript.whisperx[1289].text 反應是好的
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transcript.whisperx[1293].text 的部分放款利率的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1294].text 從2024年的這個8月
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transcript.whisperx[1295].text 就是你在實行第七波的管制
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transcript.whisperx[1300].text 放款利率
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transcript.whisperx[1303].text 的放款是下降的
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transcript.whisperx[1304].text 消費的貸款利率是下降的
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transcript.whisperx[1308].text 這代表什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1310].text 變造成
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transcript.whisperx[1314].text 來爭取這個貸款的陳述
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transcript.whisperx[1315].text 有這種現象
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transcript.whisperx[1316].text 那同樣的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1321].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1322].text 那現在我們看到
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transcript.whisperx[1324].text 去年的部分本國銀行賺了
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transcript.whisperx[1325].text 6175億比前年
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transcript.whisperx[1326].text 增加了773億
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transcript.whisperx[1327].text 成長了14.3%
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transcript.whisperx[1328].text 那就是說銀行現在
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transcript.whisperx[1329].text 再加上今年是交污潮
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transcript.whisperx[1330].text 會不會姿態更高
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transcript.whisperx[1331].text 會不會把這個利率拉得更高
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transcript.whisperx[1332].text 你結果買第二戶的人
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transcript.whisperx[1333].text 他承受的壓力就會更大
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transcript.whisperx[1334].text 中菜第二戶人是什麼樣的人
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transcript.whisperx[1335].text 你們報告中也寫得很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[1336].text 都是屬於自己或家人自住
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transcript.whisperx[1337].text 也是所謂換屋
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transcript.whisperx[1338].text 就學就業需求
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transcript.whisperx[1339].text 或是鄉下老宅不能住的情況底下
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transcript.whisperx[1340].text 才巴不得已再買第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[1341].text 不是嗎中菜
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transcript.whisperx[1342].text 這種情況底下這樣的利率負擔
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transcript.whisperx[1343].text 中菜你要不要跟你銀行喊一下話
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transcript.whisperx[1344].text 不要趁火打劫可不可以
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transcript.whisperx[1345].text 我想就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1346].text 就銀行他的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1347].text 放款的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1348].text practice
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transcript.whisperx[1349].text 他的一個實務來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[1350].text 第一個他的定價還是以
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transcript.whisperx[1351].text 風險為考量
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transcript.whisperx[1352].text 每次都說風險管理
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transcript.whisperx[1353].text 但是我就問你嘛同樣的放款
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transcript.whisperx[1354].text 留兩個下降了一個上升
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transcript.whisperx[1355].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[1356].text 現在這就是信用管制的後遺症
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transcript.whisperx[1357].text 那銀行就是
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transcript.whisperx[1358].text 藉由你的大刀
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transcript.whisperx[1359].text 來砍向老百姓啊
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transcript.whisperx[1360].text 這個結果呢
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transcript.whisperx[1361].text 我也跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[1362].text 你不殺柏仁柏仁是因你而受傷或死亡啊
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transcript.whisperx[1363].text 不不不
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transcript.whisperx[1364].text 結果就這樣子啊中菜
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transcript.whisperx[1365].text 因為就是說你
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transcript.whisperx[1366].text 你要約束一下這家銀行啊
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transcript.whisperx[1367].text 是不然會承擔罪過
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transcript.whisperx[1368].text 是在你身上啊
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transcript.whisperx[1369].text 總裁我在做三頁的提醒我不在做譴責
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transcript.whisperx[1371].text 我們針對委員這個議題
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transcript.whisperx[1372].text 我們再來深入的
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transcript.whisperx[1373].text 跟銀行來了解
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transcript.whisperx[1374].text 對道理嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1375].text 你應該找他來喝個咖啡喝個茶
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transcript.whisperx[1376].text 喝個白開水都好
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transcript.whisperx[1377].text 因為
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transcript.whisperx[1378].text 又造成那個購買方的
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transcript.whisperx[1379].text 壓力第二戶就想你報告了
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transcript.whisperx[1380].text 第二戶大部分都自助你自己寫的啊
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transcript.whisperx[1382].text 第一個原因就是利息你不應該負擔過重
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transcript.whisperx[1383].text 不是嗎第二個原因
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transcript.whisperx[1384].text 是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1385].text 這個六成有沒有機會再變成七成
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transcript.whisperx[1386].text 有沒有可能
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transcript.whisperx[1387].text 假以十日啊
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transcript.whisperx[1388].text 如果等同一自助的話就跟第一戶差不多了啊
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transcript.whisperx[1389].text 如果您的判斷是如此的話
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transcript.whisperx[1390].text 還是要保留一個
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transcript.whisperx[1391].text 那個戰略彈性空間將來以後
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transcript.whisperx[1392].text 再說
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transcript.whisperx[1393].text 我想委員的這個意見
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transcript.whisperx[1395].text 因為每一家銀行的practice
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transcript.whisperx[1396].text 是不大一樣的了普遍是增加
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transcript.whisperx[1397].text 您的報告就講了
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transcript.whisperx[1398].text 獲利率增加14.3%
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transcript.whisperx[1399].text 這是你寫的
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transcript.whisperx[1400].text 所以說得很清楚嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1401].text 獲利的來源在哪裡嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1402].text 銀行
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transcript.whisperx[1403].text 你看起來看他你很溫柔
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transcript.whisperx[1404].text 對待他吧這個貸款的
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transcript.whisperx[1405].text 這個比例增加但是
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transcript.whisperx[1406].text 貸款的利息卻更加的
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transcript.whisperx[1409].text 總裁我是跟您分享民間的一些看法
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transcript.whisperx[1411].text 當中負有太多的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1412].text 不必要的罪名啦
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transcript.whisperx[1413].text 好不好謝謝啦結果是銀行在
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transcript.whisperx[1414].text 受力結果你在背黑鍋
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transcript.whisperx[1415].text 對總裁不公平嘛不是嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1416].text 對啊這第一點嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1417].text 第二點那個該放的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1418].text 你如果適當的時候六成有沒有可能變七成
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transcript.whisperx[1420].text 對不對好不好既然你
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transcript.whisperx[1421].text 認定他是自助
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transcript.whisperx[1422].text 好最後一個問題我想問一下總裁的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1423].text 總裁我們之前有對話過黃金的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1424].text 黃金起起伏伏
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transcript.whisperx[1425].text 大概
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transcript.whisperx[1426].text 我們現在大概總用的黃金
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transcript.whisperx[1427].text 的存量全球排名第13名
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transcript.whisperx[1428].text 然後大概有兩兆之多
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transcript.whisperx[1429].text 前兆外匯的比例大概占一成
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transcript.whisperx[1430].text 現在呢
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transcript.whisperx[1431].text 過去的話大概5%是因為
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transcript.whisperx[1432].text 價格增高但是我想
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transcript.whisperx[1433].text 問一下當初你說你如果說
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transcript.whisperx[1434].text 可以的話你也不排除要買進
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transcript.whisperx[1435].text 最近有買嗎最近沒有買
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transcript.whisperx[1436].text 這三個月都沒有買你也不管
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transcript.whisperx[1437].text 他起起伏伏可是你整個
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transcript.whisperx[1438].text 整個外匯儲備
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transcript.whisperx[1439].text 的這個配比的部分的話
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transcript.whisperx[1440].text 難道黃金就是固定到5%
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transcript.whisperx[1441].text 或10%還是要全部都
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transcript.whisperx[1442].text 壓在這個美債嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1443].text 所以有一個固定匯率的政策嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1444].text 央行的一個政策是一個
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transcript.whisperx[1445].text 我們會
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transcript.whisperx[1446].text 適時機了
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transcript.whisperx[1447].text timing
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transcript.whisperx[1448].text 現在不是timing好的timing
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transcript.whisperx[1449].text 即便戰爭打成這樣子也不是好的timing
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transcript.whisperx[1450].text 我想也不是都不考慮
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transcript.whisperx[1451].text 現在還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1452].text timing還在看
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transcript.whisperx[1453].text 適當的時候還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1454].text 好時機還沒有到
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transcript.whisperx[1455].text 所以說配比實際上是可以拉高的
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transcript.whisperx[1456].text 我們
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transcript.whisperx[1457].text 也有想要進場
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transcript.whisperx[1458].text 但是這個不是timing
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transcript.whisperx[1459].text 也有想要進場但還不是好的timing
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transcript.whisperx[1460].end 5295.02
transcript.whisperx[1460].text 所以配比是可以拉高的不是固定的
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transcript.whisperx[1461].text 謝謝總裁謝謝主席謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1462].text 各位
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transcript.whisperx[1463].text 下一位資訊委員請
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transcript.whisperx[1464].end 5303.13
transcript.whisperx[1464].text 林黛樺委員
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transcript.whisperx[1465].text 好主席有請總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1466].end 5311.09
transcript.whisperx[1466].text 有請張一航楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1467].end 5316.55
transcript.whisperx[1467].text 林委員早
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transcript.whisperx[1468].text 本席也是針對
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transcript.whisperx[1469].text 這個台幣匯率的穩定
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transcript.whisperx[1470].text 不應單靠美債
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transcript.whisperx[1471].text 就我們這個
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transcript.whisperx[1472].text 我們本國央行美債
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transcript.whisperx[1473].text 尤其是工業國家的債券跟黃金的配比
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transcript.whisperx[1474].text 的策略也是要
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transcript.whisperx[1475].text 就叫這個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1476].text 那我想在外匯存底的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1477].text 的治理不過有
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transcript.whisperx[1478].text 這個三成保障當然
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transcript.whisperx[1479].text 貨幣政策以穩定為優先
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transcript.whisperx[1480].text 外匯存底是台幣
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transcript.whisperx[1481].text 實質購買力的核心支撐
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transcript.whisperx[1482].text 這也就是為什麼我一塊
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transcript.whisperx[1483].text 麵包可以用30元台幣
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transcript.whisperx[1484].text 而不是用3000元台幣來購買
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transcript.whisperx[1485].text 所以這也是穩健的外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[1486].text 跟貨幣政策保障了
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transcript.whisperx[1487].text 人民台幣購買力
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transcript.whisperx[1488].text 那外匯存底的
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transcript.whisperx[1489].text 這個穩定的外匯存底跟黃金儲備
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transcript.whisperx[1490].text 人民也得到三個保障
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transcript.whisperx[1491].text 那第一個匯率與物價的
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transcript.whisperx[1492].text 緩衝保障
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transcript.whisperx[1493].text 當外部衝擊來的時候央行更有能力來穩定
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transcript.whisperx[1494].text 市場減少進口物價
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transcript.whisperx[1495].text 油價原物料與藥品價格被匯率波動放大的風險
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transcript.whisperx[1496].text 第二個呢這個保障是金融跟就業的穩定保障
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transcript.whisperx[1497].text 企業與銀行的外幣調度若更穩
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transcript.whisperx[1498].text 金融市場就較不容易因為突發的震盪而緊縮
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transcript.whisperx[1499].text 對投資融資就業當然有幫忙
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transcript.whisperx[1500].text 那第三個呢這樣的穩定的一些政策呢
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transcript.whisperx[1501].text 也讓國際貿易與企業競爭力的成為
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transcript.whisperx[1502].text 國際貿易跟企業競爭力的後盾
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transcript.whisperx[1503].text 外匯存底及黃金儲備
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transcript.whisperx[1504].text 會穩定新台幣對外匯率與確保國際支付的能力
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transcript.whisperx[1505].text 為企業在國際貿易中提供安定的貿易基礎
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transcript.whisperx[1506].text 我講到這個其實當然外匯的
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transcript.whisperx[1507].text 台灣的外匯存底跟黃金庫存配置是否合理
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transcript.whisperx[1508].text 那在這邊我講到這三點保障其實是我要給央行說聲讚
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transcript.whisperx[1509].text 其實在外匯存底6029億的美金
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transcript.whisperx[1510].text 當國際金融震盪兩岸局勢緊張
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transcript.whisperx[1511].text 尤其現在全球油價盪漲的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1512].text 我們這筆錢確實是用來穩定新台幣穩定物價
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transcript.whisperx[1513].text 保護我國民生開支的最後一道防線
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transcript.whisperx[1514].text 美意戰爭之下台幣匯率目前是穩定的
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transcript.whisperx[1515].text 所以在這邊也感謝總裁跟各位同仁的用心
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transcript.whisperx[1516].text 那當然我還是會提到這個台幣穩定台幣價值的
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transcript.whisperx[1517].text 兩大支柱的對比到底黃金儲備跟債券
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transcript.whisperx[1518].text 那黃金還是硬通貨啦
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transcript.whisperx[1519].text 這個價值基礎具有內在的價值
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transcript.whisperx[1520].text 而且是避險之王不會隨著國家的信用消失而歸零
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transcript.whisperx[1521].text 如果現在真的發生債券要帶的話會是帶黃金不會是帶鑽石
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transcript.whisperx[1522].text 其實理由就在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[1523].text 那債券這個是本席的這個對於為什麼本國持有這麼高比例的美債
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transcript.whisperx[1524].text 我是有疑慮的還是在於債券它是他國的信用保證
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transcript.whisperx[1525].text 它的價值基礎完全取決於發行國的幣值跟主權債信
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transcript.whisperx[1526].text 也就是會面臨發行國的通膨與信用貶值
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transcript.whisperx[1527].text 所以當美元這個在貶的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1528].text 這個我們國家也可能會跟著貶
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transcript.whisperx[1529].text 它在美元漲的時候我們台灣的這個台幣也會跟著聯動性的漲
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transcript.whisperx[1530].text 這就是一個要我們要注意
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transcript.whisperx[1531].text 所以財務操作的基本原則是風險規避
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transcript.whisperx[1532].text 我想這個是基本常識
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transcript.whisperx[1533].text 財務操作的基本原則是風險規避
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transcript.whisperx[1534].text 所以美債持有將近外匯存底的八成甚至八成五
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transcript.whisperx[1535].text 為什麼把雞蛋全部放在同一個籃子裡
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transcript.whisperx[1536].text 有沒有評估增值其他工業國家的債券呢
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transcript.whisperx[1537].text 以間接強化外交的影響力
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transcript.whisperx[1538].end 5555.65
transcript.whisperx[1538].text 比如說我想最目前我們最
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transcript.whisperx[1539].text 一個事件在美中的這個加稅的這樣的一個競爭當中
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transcript.whisperx[1540].text 中國他就曾經喊出說
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transcript.whisperx[1541].text 好啊如果你在繼續
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transcript.whisperx[1542].text 美國你再繼續對我中國做不合理的加稅的話
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transcript.whisperx[1543].text 那我就要拋售美債
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transcript.whisperx[1544].text 這就是對於在只有當一個債券的持有是對於外交的影響力
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transcript.whisperx[1545].text 我是不是也可以對其他的工業國家本國
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transcript.whisperx[1546].text 我們對於德國日本的債
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transcript.whisperx[1547].text 德國他也可以發行美債
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transcript.whisperx[1548].text 英國也可以發行美債
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transcript.whisperx[1549].text 日本也可以發行美債
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transcript.whisperx[1550].text 當然他們國家的債券我們當然也可以評估
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transcript.whisperx[1551].text 有沒有可能這樣的這也間接的在我們影響
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transcript.whisperx[1552].text 外交影響力當中
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transcript.whisperx[1553].text 我們的貨幣政策是可以精一點心力的
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transcript.whisperx[1554].text 另外在投資學的三大原理
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transcript.whisperx[1555].text 流動性跟獲利性跟安全性
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transcript.whisperx[1556].text 當我國過度持有這麼多的美債
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transcript.whisperx[1557].text 這個安全性又在哪裡呢
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transcript.whisperx[1558].text 好這個總裁你先暫時先把這個
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transcript.whisperx[1559].text 我的問題先放下我們再看黃金
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transcript.whisperx[1560].text 黃金在各國
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transcript.whisperx[1561].text 這個是我調出來的資料
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transcript.whisperx[1562].text 這個各國持有美國公債的比例
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transcript.whisperx[1563].text 跟黃金的比例
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transcript.whisperx[1564].text 我就看後面這五年
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transcript.whisperx[1565].text 2020年3月到2025年3月
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transcript.whisperx[1566].text 這當中國際上持有美債
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transcript.whisperx[1567].text 其實是最後的2020到205是持平的
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transcript.whisperx[1568].text 甚至有緩慢下降
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transcript.whisperx[1569].text 但是黃金是升值的
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transcript.whisperx[1570].text 這個是一個國際趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[1571].text 好那這個是你們提供給我的
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transcript.whisperx[1572].end 5657.82
transcript.whisperx[1572].text 我們從78年一直到115年2月
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transcript.whisperx[1573].text 我整個黃金的存庫38年來是持平的
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transcript.whisperx[1574].text 這跟國際上的一個局勢上
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transcript.whisperx[1575].text 那所以這要就叫總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1576].text 那為什麼黃金不增持呢
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transcript.whisperx[1577].text 這兩年來的黃金價格從2176美元
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transcript.whisperx[1578].end 5684.82
transcript.whisperx[1578].text 超到現在5211美元
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transcript.whisperx[1579].text 漲幅高達百分之一百是
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transcript.whisperx[1580].text 當然這一兩週有下降
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transcript.whisperx[1581].text 但是你不可以去否認一件事實
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transcript.whisperx[1582].text 這樣的一個是呈現一個上升的趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[1583].text 黃金作為實質保證的戰略價值
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transcript.whisperx[1584].text 當全世界央行都在這個曲線上獲利避險的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1585].text 台灣央行的黃金持有量卻是一條死魚
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transcript.whisperx[1586].text 幾十年沒有成長
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transcript.whisperx[1587].text 好我在這邊有一個具體
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transcript.whisperx[1588].text 針對
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transcript.whisperx[1589].text 這兩個這樣的訴求總裁你可以一併的
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transcript.whisperx[1590].text 這個表達您的看法
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transcript.whisperx[1591].text 在降低資產配置高風險的策略提出
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transcript.whisperx[1592].text 如何解決主要債券過度集中的風險的說明
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transcript.whisperx[1593].text 是否評估真實其他工業國家的債券
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transcript.whisperx[1594].text 來分散風險並間接強化外交影響力
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transcript.whisperx[1595].text 另外也提出黃金持有策略的評估報告
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transcript.whisperx[1596].text 為新台幣提供更強大的實質支撐
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transcript.whisperx[1597].text 對應全球的債信貨幣的貶值潮
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transcript.whisperx[1598].text 來那個總裁您回應一下
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transcript.whisperx[1599].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[1600].text 我覺得委員分析得很好
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transcript.whisperx[1601].text 你分析得很好
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transcript.whisperx[1602].text 不過我想因為你時間也有限
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transcript.whisperx[1603].text 所以你也要我們做功課
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transcript.whisperx[1604].text 那我非常贊同就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1605].text 我們也來就是說做個功課來看看
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transcript.whisperx[1606].text 能不能來說服我們委員
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transcript.whisperx[1607].text 然後所提出來的這個
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transcript.whisperx[1608].text 說服表示都不調整
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transcript.whisperx[1609].text 當然啦就是說這個我所謂的說服的話
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transcript.whisperx[1610].text 表示就是說我們的做法是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1611].text 也不是說就是硬梆梆的就No
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transcript.whisperx[1612].text 也不是這個意思
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transcript.whisperx[1613].text 那我們一定會
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transcript.whisperx[1614].text 那兩週內提供出來好嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1615].text 是一定會
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transcript.whisperx[1616].text 那另外本席要針對這個
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transcript.whisperx[1617].text 當然外匯存底是可以穩健
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transcript.whisperx[1618].text 但不能過度集中
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transcript.whisperx[1619].text 這是本席一再強調
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transcript.whisperx[1620].text 其他工業國家的債券
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transcript.whisperx[1621].text 你是否也予以評估
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transcript.whisperx[1622].text 黃金可以不追高
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transcript.whisperx[1623].text 但是不能沒有策略
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transcript.whisperx[1624].text 來維持國內物價跟貨率的穩定
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transcript.whisperx[1625].text 央行必須具備與時俱進的合理外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[1626].text 跟黃金資產的配置
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transcript.whisperx[1627].text 那這是本席的
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transcript.whisperx[1628].text 還是一個最終的一個期待
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transcript.whisperx[1629].text 那另外我針對信用管制的無差別性
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transcript.whisperx[1630].text 那這個台灣房價的所得比
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transcript.whisperx[1631].text 就是衡量購屋壓力的指標
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transcript.whisperx[1632].text 呈現的是區域分化
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transcript.whisperx[1633].text 這個六都跟其他縣市
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transcript.whisperx[1634].text 即使是六都
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transcript.whisperx[1635].text 北、中南、高雄市、高雄市跟台北市
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transcript.whisperx[1636].text 整個在這個購屋的壓力的指標
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transcript.whisperx[1637].text 就已經有很大的不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1638].text 所以央行是否考慮分級管制
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transcript.whisperx[1639].text 譬如說針對特定的房屋過熱區
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transcript.whisperx[1640].text 淡黃區實施高強度的管制
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transcript.whisperx[1641].text 但給予非六都或基礎建設發展中的地區
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transcript.whisperx[1642].text 或者是北、中、南、東
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transcript.whisperx[1643].text 我們的區域發展是不平衡的
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transcript.whisperx[1644].text 那是不是給予非六都
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transcript.whisperx[1645].text 或者是北、中、南、東不同的區域
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transcript.whisperx[1647].text 有較大的信貸彈性
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transcript.whisperx[1648].text 那給予支持地方創生跟人口回流
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transcript.whisperx[1649].text 所以在這邊是不是您願意來
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transcript.whisperx[1650].text 評估滾動式的檢討
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transcript.whisperx[1651].text 納入區域差異指標
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transcript.whisperx[1652].text 在你做信貸的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1653].text 因為就我一個直轄市
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transcript.whisperx[1654].text 高雄市
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transcript.whisperx[1656].text 長期以來就分配不均了
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transcript.whisperx[1657].text 我不要說六都
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transcript.whisperx[1658].text 光是六都我就覺得北、中、南
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transcript.whisperx[1659].text 就已經有很大的差別了
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transcript.whisperx[1660].text 我們跟台南、高雄、台北
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transcript.whisperx[1661].text 我就覺得差別很大
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transcript.whisperx[1662].text 包括新北也是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1663].text 我都覺得我們都
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transcript.whisperx[1664].text 覺得相關的資源基礎建設
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transcript.whisperx[1665].text 我們南部高雄就有一條快速道路
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transcript.whisperx[1666].text 你很難想像
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transcript.whisperx[1667].text 你在
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transcript.whisperx[1668].text 台北、新北、基隆、桃園
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transcript.whisperx[1669].text 幾十條的
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transcript.whisperx[1670].text 幾十條一二十條的這個快速道路
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transcript.whisperx[1671].text 你很難想像
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transcript.whisperx[1672].text 快速道
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transcript.whisperx[1673].text 我們高雄就一個八八
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transcript.whisperx[1674].text 屏東高雄一條
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transcript.whisperx[1675].text 現在要增建第二條
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transcript.whisperx[1676].text 叫做國區
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transcript.whisperx[1677].text 你看北部、台北、新北、桃園、基隆
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transcript.whisperx[1678].text 包括它的這個捷運的綿密度
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transcript.whisperx[1679].text 所以光是這樣的基礎建設
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transcript.whisperx[1680].text 包括只是說你在做信貸的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1681].text 我希望你能夠納入區域指標
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transcript.whisperx[1682].text 針對六都與非六都
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transcript.whisperx[1683].text 這是一個指標
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transcript.whisperx[1684].text 你針對區域的發展
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transcript.whisperx[1685].text 北中、南東也是一個區域指標
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transcript.whisperx[1686].text 能夠這個
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transcript.whisperx[1687].text 以及在基礎建設發展地區
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transcript.whisperx[1688].text 需要較大的
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transcript.whisperx[1689].text 譬如說特別一些農業區
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transcript.whisperx[1690].text 等等你應該採取
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transcript.whisperx[1691].text 差異化的管制標準
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transcript.whisperx[1692].text 例如差別的貸款陳述
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transcript.whisperx[1693].text 避免信用管制變成區域歧視
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transcript.whisperx[1694].text 總裁您怎麼看這樣的一個建議呢
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transcript.whisperx[1695].text 好 您的建議我們會考量
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transcript.whisperx[1696].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1697].text 您這個也可以兩個禮拜評估一下
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transcript.whisperx[1698].text 我覺得這個很嚴肅喔
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transcript.whisperx[1699].text 在這個信貸當中
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transcript.whisperx[1700].text 你的一個打房政策
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transcript.whisperx[1701].text 跟我們這個新清安的這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[1702].text 當然是很矛盾
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transcript.whisperx[1703].text 我在總質詢都有提出來
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transcript.whisperx[1704].text 那當然現在是對於
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transcript.whisperx[1705].text 本身你要做再持續的做信貸的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1706].text 這個放寬或加嚴的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1707].text 我相信我要請託你在區域的均衡上
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transcript.whisperx[1708].text 訂指標要納入
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transcript.whisperx[1709].text 好 謝謝以上
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transcript.whisperx[1710].text 好 謝謝林委員
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transcript.whisperx[1711].text 下一位請劉淑賓委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[1712].text 好 有請楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1713].text 請坐 楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[1714].text 楊委員早
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transcript.whisperx[1715].text 好 總裁早喔
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transcript.whisperx[1717].text 台幣改版的問題喔
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transcript.whisperx[1718].text 那在看到現行的台幣的
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transcript.whisperx[1719].text 它的偽造率是非常低的
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transcript.whisperx[1720].text 那數位化的支付也在提升嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1721].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[1722].text 那我想呢
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transcript.whisperx[1723].text 你們的
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transcript.whisperx[1724].text 這是要改版的一個很重要的原因
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transcript.whisperx[1725].text 可能是防衛技術要升級啦
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transcript.whisperx[1727].text 這是你們最主要的目的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1728].text 我想呢
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transcript.whisperx[1729].text 最主要的目的呢
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transcript.whisperx[1730].text 也是在於
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transcript.whisperx[1731].text 這個議題我來
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transcript.whisperx[1732].text 是不是請我們的發行局來回答這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[1733].text 不過我想因為時間
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transcript.whisperx[1734].text 這個是應該從你們報告當中拿出來的啦
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transcript.whisperx[1735].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[1737].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1738].text 這個您說哪兩個是最重要的
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transcript.whisperx[1742].text 一個改版也不是就只有這兩個目的
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transcript.whisperx[1744].text 也不是這兩個目的
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transcript.whisperx[1746].text 台灣二十幾年
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transcript.whisperx[1749].text 二十四年我們才改版
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transcript.whisperx[1750].text 事實上呢我們裡面的design
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transcript.whisperx[1751].text 我們的設計
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transcript.whisperx[1752].text 說實在
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transcript.whisperx[1753].text 跟我們台灣目前
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transcript.whisperx[1754].text 在經濟社會文化方面
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transcript.whisperx[1755].text 都已經是差很多了
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transcript.whisperx[1757].text 我知道這個議題我都看過你的報告
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transcript.whisperx[1758].text 我想問的下面就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1759].text 這個改版看起來有二十四年沒了
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transcript.whisperx[1761].text 那我現在問題是
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transcript.whisperx[1762].text 你們的規劃呢是
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transcript.whisperx[1763].text 應該是2026年定稿之後經過設計的
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transcript.whisperx[1764].text 他會置版個一事議
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transcript.whisperx[1765].text 最快是2028年
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transcript.whisperx[1766].text 一百一十七年要去
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transcript.whisperx[1767].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[1768].text 編列預算起來說
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transcript.whisperx[1769].text 立法院通過順利的話
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transcript.whisperx[1770].text 就會開始首批印製嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1771].text 對沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[1772].text 那請問一下
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transcript.whisperx[1773].text 那這樣子會因為現在
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transcript.whisperx[1774].text 中東的這樣的情勢
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transcript.whisperx[1775].text 我們的預算什麼的
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transcript.whisperx[1776].text 中油啊台電都大幅增加
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transcript.whisperx[1777].text 它的支出等等
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transcript.whisperx[1778].text 你們還有動漲嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1780].text 不會
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transcript.whisperx[1781].text 好不會沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[1784].text 因為只能增加十幾億嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1788].text 會增加成本一點點五塊
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transcript.whisperx[1789].text 一點五塊OK
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transcript.whisperx[1790].text 了解好現在問題重要的是
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transcript.whisperx[1792].text 你們會增加二字頭
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transcript.whisperx[1793].text 例如說兩百兩千個新超比例對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1804].text 應該不會啦
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transcript.whisperx[1806].text 尤其現在呢
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transcript.whisperx[1810].text 如果變得比較多
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transcript.whisperx[1814].text 剛好有兩百塊
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transcript.whisperx[1815].text 本來從一百塊出頭
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transcript.whisperx[1816].text 變成接近到兩百塊啊
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transcript.whisperx[1818].text 不會啦
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transcript.whisperx[1821].text 因為這個超卷就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1822].text 一百兩百五百一千兩千
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transcript.whisperx[1823].text 這都是一個搭配啦
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transcript.whisperx[1824].text 不會我們就說喔
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transcript.whisperx[1825].text 我們兩百就增加了兩百的話
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transcript.whisperx[1827].text 不會
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transcript.whisperx[1830].text 你到時候要追蹤喔
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transcript.whisperx[1831].text 是是是會
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transcript.whisperx[1832].text 好那另外我們繼續再往下看喔
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transcript.whisperx[1836].text 政府的政策都民間負擔
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transcript.whisperx[1837].text 這邊部分會不會有些
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transcript.whisperx[1841].text 還是都一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1842].text 喔喔喔
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transcript.whisperx[1846].text 對對對會啦
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transcript.whisperx[1847].text 會啊但是呢這個是
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transcript.whisperx[1848].text 他一share了以後呢就
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transcript.whisperx[1849].text 應該就是說就不會就很多啦
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transcript.whisperx[1850].text 因為我們如果說就硬體來更新的話
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transcript.whisperx[1851].text 大概就是說全部
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transcript.whisperx[1852].text 要四十六億是不是一千
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transcript.whisperx[1853].text 那你十六億元
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transcript.whisperx[1854].text 十六億嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1855].text 你十六億元那是由民間來支出
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transcript.whisperx[1856].text 那你是要做一下補貼
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transcript.whisperx[1857].text 那就平均喔平均
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transcript.whisperx[1858].text 是不要民間是民間
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transcript.whisperx[1859].text 對啊是民間啊
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transcript.whisperx[1860].text 但是你增加的預算啊
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transcript.whisperx[1861].text 你增加十六億的支出
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transcript.whisperx[1862].text 你不需要幫他支付一些費用嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1863].text 欸楊總裁你必須要苦民所苦啊
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transcript.whisperx[1864].text 就算是銀行啊或是說
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transcript.whisperx[1865].text 也就點鈔機等等的啊
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transcript.whisperx[1866].text 我想是這樣子啦就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1867].text 他如果說就廠商來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[1869].text 那是廠商賺錢啊
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transcript.whisperx[1870].text 是反而是他賺錢啊
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transcript.whisperx[1871].text 而不是他負擔啦
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transcript.whisperx[1872].text 沒有我說好
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transcript.whisperx[1873].text 你那些光學識別去硬體等等的
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transcript.whisperx[1874].text 這個不是增加負擔嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1875].text 你的角度看起來很奇怪耶
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transcript.whisperx[1876].text 這個大概就是說是銀行要負擔啦
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transcript.whisperx[1877].text 銀行要負擔啦
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transcript.whisperx[1878].text 那銀行負擔的話我總覺得啊
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transcript.whisperx[1881].text 銀行那麼多
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transcript.whisperx[1882].text 賺的錢很多可以支付起來就對了是不是
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transcript.whisperx[1883].text 我總覺得銀行來講
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transcript.whisperx[1884].text 那超商的部分怎麼辦啊
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transcript.whisperx[1885].text 整個部分
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transcript.whisperx[1886].text 那你要從民間的角度去
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transcript.whisperx[1887].text 你現在應該是一個
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transcript.whisperx[1888].text 我想我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[1889].text 象徵調整
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transcript.whisperx[1890].text 象徵調整以前都調整過了啦
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transcript.whisperx[1891].text 那以前調整過的話
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transcript.whisperx[1892].text 他在調整的過程都很順利
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transcript.whisperx[1893].text 這些的問題以前也都面臨過啦
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transcript.whisperx[1894].text 所以在經驗上
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transcript.whisperx[1895].text 應該就是說他不是一個大問題
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transcript.whisperx[1896].text 好那我們繼續往下看
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transcript.whisperx[1897].text 這部分那有沒有包括這紅色的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1898].text 應該是還有您個人喜愛的
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transcript.whisperx[1899].text 這個有十二項嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1900].text 然後您個人喜愛的這部分
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transcript.whisperx[1901].text 當然已經知道是保養生態啦
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transcript.whisperx[1902].text 那這邊您自己的喜好呢
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transcript.whisperx[1903].text 你說我的喜好
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transcript.whisperx[1904].text 如果在十六項當中您的喜好這部分
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transcript.whisperx[1905].text 您的選項是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1906].text 我個人的是不是
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transcript.whisperx[1907].text 我個人選項我剛剛也都在講
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transcript.whisperx[1908].text 他我們那個
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transcript.whisperx[1909].text 我們不會說按照一二三四這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1910].text 來排列啦
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transcript.whisperx[1911].text 這些都可以做參考啦
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transcript.whisperx[1912].text 那您的選項呢
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transcript.whisperx[1913].text 我的選項我總覺得這都很好
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transcript.whisperx[1914].text 這都很好
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transcript.whisperx[1915].text 好我們繼續看到一個重要的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1916].text 央行這邊在十九號的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1917].text 國際原物料的油價
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transcript.whisperx[1918].text 這個預測
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transcript.whisperx[1919].text 從58.3元變到85塊錢
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transcript.whisperx[1920].text 然後CPI變到1.8
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transcript.whisperx[1921].text 可是這個1.8其實是
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transcript.whisperx[1922].text 因為有了這個
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transcript.whisperx[1923].text 環漲的機制嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1924].text 然後它變本來應該是2.15對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1925].text 那現在問的是說CPI
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transcript.whisperx[1926].text 超過多少
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transcript.whisperx[1927].text 央行才會準備要升息
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transcript.whisperx[1928].text 我們一般來講
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transcript.whisperx[1929].text 都說2%是一個警戒線
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transcript.whisperx[1930].text 不過呢
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transcript.whisperx[1931].text 我總覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1932].text 2%它不是C0
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transcript.whisperx[1933].text 它不是
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transcript.whisperx[1934].text 最高點啦
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transcript.whisperx[1935].text 因為就是說2%呢
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transcript.whisperx[1936].text 就中央銀行來看的話呢
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transcript.whisperx[1937].text 2%是中長期的目標
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transcript.whisperx[1938].text 對可是
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transcript.whisperx[1939].text 你當初我們看到了
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transcript.whisperx[1940].text 你在報告上面就出現了
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transcript.whisperx[1941].text 實際上如果真正加進去沒有這樣的專案環漲機制
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transcript.whisperx[1942].text 其實就是2.15了嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1943].text 那過去大概2.5的時候大概就會漲
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transcript.whisperx[1944].text 就會調升了嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1945].text 這個到時候再說啦
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transcript.whisperx[1946].text 現在不能說
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transcript.whisperx[1947].text 我們2.5我們就一定要升啦
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transcript.whisperx[1948].text 那如果其他國家的央行
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transcript.whisperx[1949].text 包括歐洲央行跟連準會
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transcript.whisperx[1950].text 提高了呢
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transcript.whisperx[1951].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[1952].text 你看看現在那個美國的
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transcript.whisperx[1953].text PCEP它的通膨
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transcript.whisperx[1954].text 它都2.8
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transcript.whisperx[1955].text 還有CORE還3.1
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transcript.whisperx[1956].text 但是呢他說
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transcript.whisperx[1957].text 當然他現在他的計畫
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transcript.whisperx[1958].text 是要下降的
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transcript.whisperx[1959].text 要降息的
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transcript.whisperx[1960].text 那個是美國總統
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transcript.whisperx[1961].text 他去干預他們的連準會啊
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transcript.whisperx[1962].text 不不不
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transcript.whisperx[1963].text 這個是連準會他自己說的
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transcript.whisperx[1964].text 不是美國總統要指示他在這麼做的
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transcript.whisperx[1965].text 不是
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transcript.whisperx[1966].text 他的2.8跟3.1
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transcript.whisperx[1967].text 現在他的通膨率
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transcript.whisperx[1968].text 但是呢他還是在
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transcript.whisperx[1969].text 講說他可能要到2028年
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transcript.whisperx[1970].text 才能夠達到
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transcript.whisperx[1971].text 所以他的降息
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transcript.whisperx[1972].text 這個部分喔
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transcript.whisperx[1973].text 楊長的總裁你剛說你可以知道你這個資料
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transcript.whisperx[1974].text 是從什麼時間出的
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transcript.whisperx[1975].text 沒有啊他最近而已喔
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transcript.whisperx[1976].text 好如果是這樣的情況之下呢
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transcript.whisperx[1977].text 你可以看到國際趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[1978].text 還有不只是美國啊還有歐洲這部分
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transcript.whisperx[1979].text 各國差異有差異我們就繼續再往下看
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transcript.whisperx[1980].text 那另外一個部分是看到的是
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transcript.whisperx[1981].text 中油現在累計的虧損
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transcript.whisperx[1982].text 到去年年底就804億
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transcript.whisperx[1983].text 對不對對才會有緊繃
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transcript.whisperx[1984].text 那您知道他已經有提出3500億的
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transcript.whisperx[1985].text 四年增資計畫嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1986].text 我知道這個好那我現在從了解
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transcript.whisperx[1987].end 6554.71
transcript.whisperx[1987].text 因為石油是我們非常重要的
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transcript.whisperx[1988].text 物資嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1989].text 沒有錯那請問從523
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transcript.whisperx[1990].text 2022年開始到現在
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transcript.whisperx[1991].text 中油增資喔央行有沒有關注到
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transcript.whisperx[1992].text 經濟部或是中油的能源
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transcript.whisperx[1993].text 原物料的避險的事情
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transcript.whisperx[1994].text 這個是他的職權
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transcript.whisperx[1995].text 這是他的職權
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transcript.whisperx[1996].text 而且呢我跟
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transcript.whisperx[1997].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[1998].text 他們中油跟他們台電
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transcript.whisperx[1999].text 他們自己內部如何來避險
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transcript.whisperx[2000].text 我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2001].text 中央銀行是
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transcript.whisperx[2002].text 是沒有這個
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transcript.whisperx[2003].text 沒有啊總裁你不要
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transcript.whisperx[2004].text 你要講得清楚喔
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transcript.whisperx[2005].text 你雖然看起來是經濟部的職權
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transcript.whisperx[2006].text 但是物價是由您在
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transcript.whisperx[2007].text 決定它的穩定度通貨膨脹
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transcript.whisperx[2008].text 您來決定它如果有問題的話
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transcript.whisperx[2009].text 是不是你要決定
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transcript.whisperx[2010].text 所以他都買給你吃回嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2011].text 我跟您報告一下啦
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transcript.whisperx[2012].text 就是說我們二戰爭的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2013].text 包括現在中東戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[2014].text 它這個都是
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transcript.whisperx[2015].text 原物料都是
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transcript.whisperx[2016].text 都是供給面
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transcript.whisperx[2017].text 都是供給面的因素所造成的
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transcript.whisperx[2018].text 那供給面的因素
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transcript.whisperx[2019].text 所造成的就要供給面的
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transcript.whisperx[2020].text 政策去對付它
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transcript.whisperx[2021].text 那供給面的政策
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transcript.whisperx[2022].text 對付它這個行政院
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transcript.whisperx[2023].text 它就有一個物價穩定的效果
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transcript.whisperx[2024].text 中央銀行我剛剛也已經報過過了
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transcript.whisperx[2025].text 我們中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[2026].text 我們中央銀行有兩個
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transcript.whisperx[2027].text 有兩個職責
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transcript.whisperx[2028].text 在這裡面呢第一個我們是
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transcript.whisperx[2029].text 涉及到匯率的問題涉及到利率的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2030].text 對然後講到匯率的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2031].text 我想到它現在美金需求
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transcript.whisperx[2032].text 就變得很多的時候不會影響到我們匯率
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transcript.whisperx[2033].text 現在匯率其實我們已經今天就已經出現
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transcript.whisperx[2034].text 是不是要增加到三
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transcript.whisperx[2035].text 二十三三十二塊的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2036].text 標準啦
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transcript.whisperx[2037].text 所以我就說啦匯率我們一定會
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transcript.whisperx[2038].text 這是我們的職責
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transcript.whisperx[2039].text 這是連動的啦
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transcript.whisperx[2040].text 我想做到最後一問題
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transcript.whisperx[2041].text 就是經濟部跟中央的能源物料
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transcript.whisperx[2042].text 必顯的這部分你有了解嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2043].text 基本上他們的那個
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transcript.whisperx[2044].text 必顯的一個措施
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transcript.whisperx[2045].text 我們基本上我們都會
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transcript.whisperx[2046].text 有注意它啦
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transcript.whisperx[2047].text 不過這是他們自己內部所做的
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transcript.whisperx[2048].text 但是你有知道你才做到後面的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2049].text 物價穩定的部分嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2050].text 通過匯率的部分去做一些改變
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transcript.whisperx[2051].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[2052].text 這個是他們的職權啦這個是經濟部
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transcript.whisperx[2053].text 主要的那我們中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[2054].text 也可以當然委員在講的
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transcript.whisperx[2055].text 沒有錯啦我們中央銀行也可以
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transcript.whisperx[2056].text 做一個advice啦
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transcript.whisperx[2057].text 這只是說advice而已啦
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transcript.whisperx[2058].text 就是你們互相有知道
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transcript.whisperx[2059].text 中央銀行跟部會事實上是要做
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transcript.whisperx[2060].text 很多人在溝通
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transcript.whisperx[2061].text 委員這樣說也沒有錯啦
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transcript.whisperx[2062].text 謝謝劉委員
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transcript.whisperx[2063].text 下一位請賴會委員
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transcript.whisperx[2064].text 委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[2065].text 先宣告喔
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transcript.whisperx[2066].text 等到本席質詢完畢之後休息五分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[2067].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2068].text 謝謝主席請央行總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2069].text 楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2070].text 請座議員楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2071].text 賴委員早
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transcript.whisperx[2072].text 總裁早安
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transcript.whisperx[2073].text 本席來自於農業的險區
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transcript.whisperx[2074].text 那在這一次中東的戰事
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transcript.whisperx[2075].text 其實不只是能源的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2076].text 那其實也跟這個農業
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transcript.whisperx[2077].text 農業有相當大的一個受影響
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transcript.whisperx[2078].text 那就是中東的戰事
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transcript.whisperx[2079].text 其實我們都知道就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2080].text 美國是我們台灣最主要的農產品
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transcript.whisperx[2081].text 那個進口的國家
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transcript.whisperx[2082].text 那這樣子的一個過程裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[2083].text 其實不是我們在農產品的進口的國家
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transcript.whisperx[2084].text 那這樣子的一個過程裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[2085].text 其實不是我們在農產品的進口的國家
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transcript.whisperx[2086].text 那這樣子的一個過程裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[2087].text 其實不是只有這個石油漲價
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transcript.whisperx[2089].text 其實都非常非常的辛苦
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transcript.whisperx[2090].text 尤其是說
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transcript.whisperx[2091].text 國務價格的波動
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transcript.whisperx[2092].text 還有今天要跟你探討的
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transcript.whisperx[2093].text 就是淡回價格的一個波動
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transcript.whisperx[2094].text 但一噸
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transcript.whisperx[2095].text 從美金500
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transcript.whisperx[2096].text 漲到一噸
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transcript.whisperx[2097].text 美金700
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transcript.whisperx[2098].text 那你看我們有很多農作物
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transcript.whisperx[2099].text 其實我們就需要
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transcript.whisperx[2100].text 養脹這個淡回
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transcript.whisperx[2101].text 有淡回的話
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transcript.whisperx[2103].text 這植物長得好的話
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transcript.whisperx[2105].text 我們要用植物產業才可以
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transcript.whisperx[2106].text 把這個牛羊
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transcript.whisperx[2107].text 還有我們的豬
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transcript.whisperx[2108].text 把它養胖養足
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transcript.whisperx[2109].text 那可是
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transcript.whisperx[2110].text 我們看到央行在報告中
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transcript.whisperx[2111].text 有特別提到了
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transcript.whisperx[2112].text 從伊朗戰爭開始
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transcript.whisperx[2113].text 原油那個價格還有骨肉的價格
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transcript.whisperx[2114].text 還有淡回的價格都上漲了
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transcript.whisperx[2115].text 可是你在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[2116].text 你還是特別提到了
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transcript.whisperx[2117].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2118].text 這個淡回出口受影響
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transcript.whisperx[2123].text 顯然
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transcript.whisperx[2131].text 一直在跟你抗議的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2231].text 印河
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transcript.whisperx[2242].text 然後就說你不准走
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transcript.whisperx[2247].text 未來啦
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transcript.whisperx[2252].text 一桶會多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[2255].text 這個你不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2259].text 你不是一個預測專家可是起碼你要有這種能量
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transcript.whisperx[2260].text 你也要可以玩命
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transcript.whisperx[2261].text 這個就考倒我了
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transcript.whisperx[2262].text 這個就是
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transcript.whisperx[2264].text 我們只能就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2265].text 情境的分析啦
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transcript.whisperx[2266].text 這個就中愛南的能力
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transcript.whisperx[2267].text 就只有情境的分析啦
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transcript.whisperx[2268].text 情境的分析
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transcript.whisperx[2269].text 我們只能就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2270].text 我從58.3塊錢
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transcript.whisperx[2271].text 那時候當時我們就說
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transcript.whisperx[2272].text 這一年58.3塊錢
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transcript.whisperx[2273].text 然後呢我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[2275].text 我的原油一桶會多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[2276].text 你的情境中
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transcript.whisperx[2277].text 不我們是說
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transcript.whisperx[2278].text 這一年呢
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transcript.whisperx[2280].text 我們是85塊啊
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transcript.whisperx[2282].text 從58.3增加到85
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transcript.whisperx[2283].text 那我們的85不是說
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transcript.whisperx[2284].text 不是說某一個10點的80
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transcript.whisperx[2286].text 是全年的平均
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transcript.whisperx[2287].text 那近期呢
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transcript.whisperx[2288].text 近期的話大概我如果說
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transcript.whisperx[2289].text 你現在來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[2291].text 近期是90到110
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transcript.whisperx[2292].text 90到110
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transcript.whisperx[2293].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2294].text 那你的近期會是
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transcript.whisperx[2295].text 近期的話我再想到
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transcript.whisperx[2296].text 到那個三月底到四月中以前
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transcript.whisperx[2297].text 三月底到四月中
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transcript.whisperx[2298].text 我在三月底
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transcript.whisperx[2301].text 應該不會那麼低啦
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transcript.whisperx[2304].text 對那這個短時間是可以這樣
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transcript.whisperx[2305].text 但是呢長期的話呢
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transcript.whisperx[2306].text 我覺得長期是
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transcript.whisperx[2307].text 應該不會那麼長啦
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transcript.whisperx[2308].text 應該不會那麼高啦
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transcript.whisperx[2310].text 在比較短的時間結束的話呢
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transcript.whisperx[2311].text 後面那邊油價應該是會下來的
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transcript.whisperx[2312].text 好那我想從你的報告裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[2313].text 你還是特別在提到了
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transcript.whisperx[2314].text 你在安撫大家
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transcript.whisperx[2315].text 這個議期就是會通盆
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transcript.whisperx[2316].text 那你告訴大家說
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transcript.whisperx[2317].text 其實你的議期通盆是溫和的
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transcript.whisperx[2319].text 因為政府採取了很多的評價
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transcript.whisperx[2320].text 那個評問那個物價的一個措施
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transcript.whisperx[2321].text 不管是補稅
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transcript.whisperx[2322].text 還是那個就是
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transcript.whisperx[2323].text 調降
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transcript.whisperx[2324].text 還是補貼
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transcript.whisperx[2325].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2326].text 總裁已經這麼久了
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transcript.whisperx[2327].text 我們老是用這幾招
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transcript.whisperx[2328].text 有沒有想到你那個國安基金
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transcript.whisperx[2329].text 是來評價股市
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transcript.whisperx[2330].text 那有沒有辦法就是
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transcript.whisperx[2331].text 用一個主權基金
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transcript.whisperx[2332].text 來穩定
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transcript.whisperx[2333].text 穩定你的物價呢
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transcript.whisperx[2334].text 不那個委員
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transcript.whisperx[2335].text 一個基金
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transcript.whisperx[2336].text 一個基金
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transcript.whisperx[2337].text 他有他特定的目的
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transcript.whisperx[2338].text 那你的特定的目的呢
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transcript.whisperx[2339].text 你一個基金要他要
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transcript.whisperx[2340].text 他要他到要就是提供
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transcript.whisperx[2341].text 那麼多的那個目的的話
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transcript.whisperx[2342].text 就是說要
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transcript.whisperx[2343].text 要扮演那麼多的
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transcript.whisperx[2344].text 功能的話不到
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transcript.whisperx[2345].text 可是物價穩定基金我們現在面對
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transcript.whisperx[2346].text 那你就用物價穩定基金來
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transcript.whisperx[2347].text 政治風險
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transcript.whisperx[2350].text 你的看法是怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2351].text 委員這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[2352].text 我覺得好像也很合理
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transcript.whisperx[2353].text 譬如說你剛剛講到
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transcript.whisperx[2354].text 國安基金
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transcript.whisperx[2355].text 國安基金就是穩定股
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transcript.whisperx[2356].text 穩定那個
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transcript.whisperx[2357].text 股市嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2358].text 那以前你提了這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[2359].text 事實上以前我們都也有物價
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transcript.whisperx[2360].text 穩定基金
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transcript.whisperx[2361].text 他叫做平穩基金
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transcript.whisperx[2362].text 他叫平穩基金
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transcript.whisperx[2363].text 那這個地緣政治的一個風險
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transcript.whisperx[2364].text 是我們必須要去面對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2365].text 是那個平穩基金
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transcript.whisperx[2366].text 這個平穩基金我覺得這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[2367].text 是以前沒有
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transcript.whisperx[2368].text 討論看看研究看看
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transcript.whisperx[2369].text 不要講說這個跟你沒有關係
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transcript.whisperx[2370].text 這個絕對跟你有關係
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transcript.whisperx[2371].text 你是總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2372].text 進來的都是叫董事長
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transcript.whisperx[2373].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[2374].text 謝謝賴委員
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transcript.whisperx[2375].text 下一位資訊委員請李坤誠委員諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[2376].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[2377].text 我們請楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2378].text 請坐楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2379].text 總裁慢慢來沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[2380].text 喝口水再上來沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[2382].text 辛苦了
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transcript.whisperx[2383].text 謝謝你
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transcript.whisperx[2384].text 早上我也聽到很多委員都很關心
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transcript.whisperx[2385].text 第一個就是我們的經濟成長率
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transcript.whisperx[2386].text 第一個就是我們CPI
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transcript.whisperx[2387].text 那我先問經濟成長率好了
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transcript.whisperx[2388].text 央行是預測
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transcript.whisperx[2389].text 經濟成長率
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transcript.whisperx[2390].text 今年有7.28%
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transcript.whisperx[2392].text 那其實都是高過外國的
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transcript.whisperx[2393].text 機構的預設
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transcript.whisperx[2394].text 他們大概預設6.4%左右
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transcript.whisperx[2395].text 對於台灣的產業是非常有信心
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transcript.whisperx[2396].text 包含這一個AI的產業
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transcript.whisperx[2397].text 我們這些應用科技
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transcript.whisperx[2398].text 持續的有出口
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transcript.whisperx[2399].text 但是其實黑天鵝
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transcript.whisperx[2400].text 也蠻多的像關稅的影響
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transcript.whisperx[2401].text 或是說總統戰事的影響
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transcript.whisperx[2402].text 總統戰事也不知道何時
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transcript.whisperx[2403].text 才能確定結束
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transcript.whisperx[2404].text 那當然川普是希望說4月中旬
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transcript.whisperx[2405].text 之前能夠結束
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transcript.whisperx[2406].text 但是現在油價也還在漲
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transcript.whisperx[2407].text 大概就像總裁剛才講的
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transcript.whisperx[2408].text 短期間大概就是90到110
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transcript.whisperx[2409].text 這個區間
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transcript.whisperx[2410].text 難道這些不會影響到說
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transcript.whisperx[2411].text 這個總裁對於我們
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transcript.whisperx[2412].text 全年度的經濟成長率的評估嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2413].text 會
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transcript.whisperx[2414].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2415].text 所以也就是說事實上
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transcript.whisperx[2416].text 我就一直在強調
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transcript.whisperx[2417].text 中央銀行的一個理監事會
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transcript.whisperx[2418].text 我們是3月
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transcript.whisperx[2419].text 6月9月12月
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transcript.whisperx[2420].text 正常的是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[2421].text 這是3月的評估
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transcript.whisperx[2422].text 那我們在6月我們會
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transcript.whisperx[2423].text 再次的評估
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transcript.whisperx[2424].text 為什麼這中間一定
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transcript.whisperx[2425].text 再發生很多的事情
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transcript.whisperx[2426].text 其實還是總統戰事影響
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transcript.whisperx[2427].text 對所以也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2428].text 我們就是說他持續的時間
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transcript.whisperx[2429].text 他的強度
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transcript.whisperx[2430].text 還有就是說他涵蓋的範圍
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transcript.whisperx[2431].text 這個都是我們密切
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transcript.whisperx[2432].text 注意的
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transcript.whisperx[2433].text 因為你們這個預測是說當時油價是每桶85美元
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transcript.whisperx[2434].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[2435].text 全年
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transcript.whisperx[2436].text 現在就是說看起來
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transcript.whisperx[2437].text 油價大概85
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transcript.whisperx[2438].text 大概這個這個
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transcript.whisperx[2439].text 這個價格有點低估了啦
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transcript.whisperx[2440].text 不一定喔
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transcript.whisperx[2441].text 現在我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2442].text 現在大部分的國際的機構
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transcript.whisperx[2443].text 大概也都是用
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transcript.whisperx[2444].text 全年全年
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transcript.whisperx[2445].text 全年85塊
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transcript.whisperx[2446].text 來做一個情境的分析
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transcript.whisperx[2447].text 當然
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transcript.whisperx[2448].text 他也有用70
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transcript.whisperx[2449].text 80用100
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transcript.whisperx[2450].text 他也有但是呢
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transcript.whisperx[2451].text 大部分都是用85
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transcript.whisperx[2452].text 那所以總裁對於這個
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transcript.whisperx[2453].text 7.287%以上的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2454].text 精神成長率有信心就對了
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transcript.whisperx[2455].text 以目前來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[2456].text 因為我們在強調的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2457].text 美國
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transcript.whisperx[2458].text 美國的那個四大
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transcript.whisperx[2459].text CSP就是國際銀端
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transcript.whisperx[2460].text 服務供應商去年
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transcript.whisperx[2461].text 我們的出口很好就是
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transcript.whisperx[2462].text 跟美國的科技業
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transcript.whisperx[2463].text 是連在一起的
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transcript.whisperx[2464].text 這些的科技業呢
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transcript.whisperx[2465].text 投資如果說
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transcript.whisperx[2466].text 很好的時候呢
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transcript.whisperx[2467].text 我們出口就很好
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transcript.whisperx[2468].text 也跟國外的科技業
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transcript.whisperx[2469].text 這個這個評比啊
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transcript.whisperx[2470].text 評價起來稍微低了一點
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transcript.whisperx[2471].text 我們高一點
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transcript.whisperx[2472].text 我們高一點
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transcript.whisperx[2475].text 不是也有到
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transcript.whisperx[2476].text 也有機構提供到2.2
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transcript.whisperx[2477].text 我就說因為每一個機構
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transcript.whisperx[2478].text 是不大一樣我們就說這些
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transcript.whisperx[2479].text 住民的機構呢平均起來他是1.76
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transcript.whisperx[2480].text 同樣的啦就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2481].text 油價在漲
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transcript.whisperx[2482].text 那我們現在油有讓他
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transcript.whisperx[2483].text 或是說稍微吸收
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transcript.whisperx[2484].text 第二個就是店家也希望能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2485].text 維持這個動漲
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transcript.whisperx[2486].text 這個油電的雙漲機制
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transcript.whisperx[2487].text 現在我們稍微把它
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transcript.whisperx[2488].text 稍微減緩了一下
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transcript.whisperx[2489].text 可是呢這個會不會
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transcript.whisperx[2490].text 影響到說
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transcript.whisperx[2493].text 還是會受到影響
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transcript.whisperx[2494].text 是會啦
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transcript.whisperx[2495].text 所以說是會
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transcript.whisperx[2496].text 應該也會不過以目前1.8
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transcript.whisperx[2497].text 來講的話我認為他們還是
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transcript.whisperx[2498].text 可以吸收的啦
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transcript.whisperx[2499].text 還是可以吸收
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transcript.whisperx[2501].text 然後這個房價這個房市
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transcript.whisperx[2502].text 信用管制部分
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transcript.whisperx[2503].text 央行現在把這個自然第二戶的
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transcript.whisperx[2504].text 購屋的貸款陳述呢
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transcript.whisperx[2505].text 從五成放寬到六成
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transcript.whisperx[2506].text 那大家有在
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transcript.whisperx[2507].text 有在想就是說因為你們的報告
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transcript.whisperx[2508].text 提出來就是說這個可能
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transcript.whisperx[2509].text 是會因為現在
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transcript.whisperx[2510].text 有這個大量新建築才提出
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transcript.whisperx[2511].text 所以呢這個要持續呢
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transcript.whisperx[2512].text 這個有這個推升
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transcript.whisperx[2513].text 代售新成物的壓力
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transcript.whisperx[2514].text 所以適度調整把五成提高到六成
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transcript.whisperx[2515].text 有助於消化代售的新成物
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transcript.whisperx[2516].text 是不是大概是這個用意
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transcript.whisperx[2517].text 就希望說房市能夠軟著陸
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transcript.whisperx[2518].text 是啦當然是說希望它
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transcript.whisperx[2519].text 軟著陸啦不過呢就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2520].text 剛剛講的這個預售屋的這個
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transcript.whisperx[2521].text 問題喔只是其中
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transcript.whisperx[2522].text 一點而已啦最主要的
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transcript.whisperx[2523].text 我總覺得應該是最重要的
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transcript.whisperx[2524].text 就是說要呼應
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transcript.whisperx[2525].text 民間對第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[2527].text 因為我們在報告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2528].text 我們有談就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2529].text 第二戶的需求其實一直都有啦
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transcript.whisperx[2530].text 是有但是我們第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[2531].text 都是要必須要就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2532].text 我們是把它認為就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2533].text 如果說你是自住的
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transcript.whisperx[2539].text 第二戶我是要我自己的
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transcript.whisperx[2540].text 對那你現在就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2541].text 因為你從五成放寬到六成嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2542].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[2544].text 真正的用意在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[2545].text 對呼應他們的需求啊
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transcript.whisperx[2546].text 呼應他們啊第二個呢
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transcript.whisperx[2547].text 就是說我們的
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transcript.whisperx[2549].text 成效了啦不能就硬梆梆的
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transcript.whisperx[2550].text 在那邊啦這也是啦
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transcript.whisperx[2554].text 除了這個信用管制
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transcript.whisperx[2555].text 稍微放鬆之外還有其他的方式嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2557].text 我當然啦這個
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transcript.whisperx[2558].text 也許啊我們的
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transcript.whisperx[2560].text 也會
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transcript.whisperx[2561].text 因為我那個時候我也是覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2562].text 就是說要共體時間
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transcript.whisperx[2563].text 軟著陸的意思就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2565].text 在價格上呢也應該要
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transcript.whisperx[2567].text 大眾的一個一個一個
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transcript.whisperx[2572].text 應戰啊那個能量會累積
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transcript.whisperx[2573].text 那個能量會累積
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transcript.whisperx[2574].text 到時候呢它的supply太大的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2575].text 你這個就是
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transcript.whisperx[2577].text 是指價格希望能夠再
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transcript.whisperx[2580].text 利潤在
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transcript.whisperx[2582].text 利潤的情況之下可以讓這個
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transcript.whisperx[2583].text 讓總裁認為說
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transcript.whisperx[2584].text 大概讓多少是
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transcript.whisperx[2618].text 這個是供需嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2619].text 一樣的嘛這是供需啊
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transcript.whisperx[2621].text 需求需求者覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2622].text 這個這個是他符合
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transcript.whisperx[2639].text 條之二已經排除了這個
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transcript.whisperx[2650].text 也有跟央行
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transcript.whisperx[2654].text 那這個不要
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transcript.whisperx[2656].text 這個借貸的部分呢納入不動產
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transcript.whisperx[2664].text 都是我們排除的對象
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transcript.whisperx[2671].text 不必要你銀行不必要
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transcript.whisperx[2672].text 給他信用的
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transcript.whisperx[2673].text 我們做這樣的反而對這個
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transcript.whisperx[2674].text 自主的都更的
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transcript.whisperx[2675].text 反而是有利
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transcript.whisperx[2676].text 所以我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2677].text 事實上從2021年
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transcript.whisperx[2678].text 他他的本國銀行
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transcript.whisperx[2679].text 都更這個我們報告裡面都有
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transcript.whisperx[2680].text 我知道可是你這指我
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transcript.whisperx[2681].text 我現在是特別指說自主都更的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2682].text 你們把這個危老也把它放進去了
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transcript.whisperx[2683].text 沒有自主性都更跟這個
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transcript.whisperx[2684].text 都是包含在這裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2685].text 事實上我在講這個的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2686].text 我也跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2687].text 事實上我們也跟有內政部
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transcript.whisperx[2688].text 開過會開過會
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transcript.whisperx[2689].text 他就說你這個要放開事實上
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transcript.whisperx[2690].text 我們跟他解釋了以後
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transcript.whisperx[2691].text 他就接受了
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transcript.whisperx[2692].text 所以到底現在有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[2693].text 都已經就是說他都接受
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transcript.whisperx[2694].text 我們的說法也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2695].text 都更的這個部分我們都把它排除
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transcript.whisperx[2697].text 他不會影響到他所以
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transcript.whisperx[2698].text 他也一直就是說後來
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transcript.whisperx[2699].text 他就接受了OK
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transcript.whisperx[2700].text 謝謝主席謝謝總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2701].text 謝謝坤城接著我們請吳品瑞召委諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[2702].text 主席麻煩請中央議員楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2703].text 好總裁
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transcript.whisperx[2704].text 我來找
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transcript.whisperx[2705].text 這個前年
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transcript.whisperx[2706].text 前年度
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transcript.whisperx[2708].text 出超
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transcript.whisperx[2709].text 743億
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transcript.whisperx[2710].text 那去年度呢
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transcript.whisperx[2711].text 去年度你有跟我說過說你預估是1200億
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transcript.whisperx[2712].text 那最後大概是1200零幾億
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transcript.whisperx[2713].text 最後到1500多億的樣子
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transcript.whisperx[2714].text 是喔
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transcript.whisperx[2715].text 1500多億
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transcript.whisperx[2716].text 那就幾乎增加了一倍
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transcript.whisperx[2717].text 那從這個觀點來看
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transcript.whisperx[2718].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2719].text 國際貿易其實它的原則是講究平衡嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2720].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2721].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[2724].text 美金這個外匯非常有幫助
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transcript.whisperx[2725].text 可是站在美國的立場
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transcript.whisperx[2726].text 他一定會覺得說
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transcript.whisperx[2727].text 應該盡量平衡啊
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transcript.whisperx[2728].text 那所以從提高
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transcript.whisperx[2729].text 一年度就提高到1500多
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transcript.whisperx[2730].text 到1500億
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transcript.whisperx[2731].text 那假設今年度
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transcript.whisperx[2732].text 照你的報告
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transcript.whisperx[2733].text 因為AI的關係
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transcript.whisperx[2734].text 認為今年度台灣的出口還是會暢旺
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transcript.whisperx[2735].text 所以很有可能今年度對美國的出超還會再更高是不是
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transcript.whisperx[2736].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[2737].text 應該
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transcript.whisperx[2738].text 應該也是差不多啦
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transcript.whisperx[2739].text 不會就是說再更高啦
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transcript.whisperx[2740].text 不會再更高啦
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transcript.whisperx[2741].text 我覺得1500億就已經算是很高了
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transcript.whisperx[2742].text 好那現在再來就是因為
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transcript.whisperx[2743].text 這樣子的現象產生的後果
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transcript.whisperx[2744].text 要如何承擔呢
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transcript.whisperx[2745].text 現在是因為
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transcript.whisperx[2746].text 這個國際在地緣衝突嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2749].text 那另外烏克蘭跟
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transcript.whisperx[2750].text 俄羅斯今年烏克蘭也還沒有結束
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transcript.whisperx[2751].text 所以現在很多資金
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transcript.whisperx[2752].text 是進入美元去避險
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transcript.whisperx[2753].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2754].text 使得美元最近在國之間超強勢啦
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transcript.whisperx[2755].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[2756].text 不然來講如果從國際貿易角度來看
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transcript.whisperx[2760].text 應該是要貶值的啦
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transcript.whisperx[2761].text 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[2762].text 理論上應該是要貶值
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transcript.whisperx[2772].text 就是說市場都認為
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transcript.whisperx[2773].text 市場都認為
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transcript.whisperx[2774].text 就是說我們對
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transcript.whisperx[2779].text 他認為就是說我們台幣要升值
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transcript.whisperx[2781].text 那為什麼國際的貨幣
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transcript.whisperx[2782].text 最近在中東
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transcript.whisperx[2783].text 戰爭之後
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transcript.whisperx[2784].text 每個貨幣都對美元貶值
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transcript.whisperx[2785].text 就大家避險
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transcript.whisperx[2786].text 跑到美國去
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transcript.whisperx[2788].text 因為避險
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transcript.whisperx[2790].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2791].text 如果說
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transcript.whisperx[2793].text 美元在國際上他是搶的
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transcript.whisperx[2797].text 外資在我們
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transcript.whisperx[2798].text 台灣的股市呢
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transcript.whisperx[2799].text 他抽出去了
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transcript.whisperx[2800].text 他抽出去了
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transcript.whisperx[2802].text 抽出去他有吃虧嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2803].text 他沒有吃虧
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transcript.whisperx[2804].text 因為外資在我們台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[2805].text 股市呢他賺很多
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transcript.whisperx[2806].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[2807].text 賺很多所以這個就是一個概念
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transcript.whisperx[2808].text 我必須要跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2809].text 就是說我們的
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transcript.whisperx[2810].text 經常賬或是我們的貿易賬
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transcript.whisperx[2811].text 即使是出超
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transcript.whisperx[2812].text 對他出超很多的話
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transcript.whisperx[2813].text 按照道理我們是應該要
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transcript.whisperx[2814].text 要升值的
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transcript.whisperx[2815].text 但是呢他在我們的股市賺
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transcript.whisperx[2816].text 很多錢啊
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transcript.whisperx[2817].text 所以那就是貿易賬的平衡
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transcript.whisperx[2818].text 那個是對嘛就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2819].text 你的經常賬你的
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transcript.whisperx[2820].text 貿易賬我賺你的錢
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transcript.whisperx[2821].text 但是他在我們的股市賺我們的錢
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transcript.whisperx[2822].text 是在這個他跟我們
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transcript.whisperx[2823].text 賺我們的錢的時候呢
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transcript.whisperx[2824].text 外界都一直沒有
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transcript.whisperx[2825].text 考量到這一點他們都
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transcript.whisperx[2826].text 一直認為就是說我們賺
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transcript.whisperx[2827].text 的錢所以新台幣一定要
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transcript.whisperx[2828].text 升值但是呢他都
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transcript.whisperx[2829].text 沒有考慮到他在我們的
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transcript.whisperx[2830].text 股市賺很多
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transcript.whisperx[2831].text 錢正在這個是從
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transcript.whisperx[2832].text 國際貿易的理論上面來看
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transcript.whisperx[2833].text 那他從我們的股市賺了
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transcript.whisperx[2834].text 很多錢現在是因為國際
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transcript.whisperx[2835].text 地緣衝突所以大賣
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transcript.whisperx[2836].text 當亞的各國
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transcript.whisperx[2837].text 的股市把資金抽回美國
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transcript.whisperx[2838].text 他獲利了結嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2839].text 但是獲利了結另外一個
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transcript.whisperx[2842].text 他將來還是會再大幅的
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transcript.whisperx[2843].text 回來啊沒有錯沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[2844].text 因為他繼續賺更多
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transcript.whisperx[2845].text 所以這個資金
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transcript.whisperx[2846].text 美金因為股市
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transcript.whisperx[2847].text 交易或是其他的
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transcript.whisperx[2848].text 交易來來往往的這個資金是一時的
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transcript.whisperx[2849].text 是是是現在
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transcript.whisperx[2850].text 走如果衝突
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transcript.whisperx[2851].text 穩定假設真的是4月5月結束
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transcript.whisperx[2852].text 他有可能6 7 8月的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2853].text 資金又過來台灣
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transcript.whisperx[2854].text 那時候台幣是不是就會大幅升值
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transcript.whisperx[2855].text 對啊就有可能啊
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transcript.whisperx[2856].text 所以也就是說我跟
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transcript.whisperx[2857].text 委員報告基本上
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transcript.whisperx[2858].text 事實上台灣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[2859].text 外匯市場呢
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transcript.whisperx[2860].text 是由資金的移動來
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transcript.whisperx[2861].text 主導的而不是由
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transcript.whisperx[2862].text 出口的多寡來主導
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transcript.whisperx[2863].text 對你講這個我接受
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transcript.whisperx[2864].text 但是你如果長年
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transcript.whisperx[2865].text 這樣子的累積對每一年
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transcript.whisperx[2866].text 用這樣的速度在累積對美
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transcript.whisperx[2867].text 的出超這個壓力
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transcript.whisperx[2868].text 還是一定都在那當然
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transcript.whisperx[2869].text 所以我們所以這個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2870].text 在我們在溝通的過程
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transcript.whisperx[2871].text 當中呢我們也要告訴他
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transcript.whisperx[2872].text 我跟你的
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transcript.whisperx[2873].text 出超呢不是
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transcript.whisperx[2874].text 因為我壓低我的匯率
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transcript.whisperx[2875].text 不是因為我們不公平的
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transcript.whisperx[2876].text 貿易貿易的手段
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transcript.whisperx[2877].text 而是你真正需要
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transcript.whisperx[2878].text 我的產品好
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transcript.whisperx[2879].text 那另外這一點我能接受
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transcript.whisperx[2880].text 而且以前我也是這樣認為
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transcript.whisperx[2881].text 是是是沒有錯沒有錯那我的意思是說
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transcript.whisperx[2882].text 另外一點我們台灣的努力
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transcript.whisperx[2883].text 譬如說現在要跟
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transcript.whisperx[2884].text 阿拉斯加購買天然氣
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transcript.whisperx[2885].text 將來有可能購買石油等等
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transcript.whisperx[2886].text 那在對美國
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transcript.whisperx[2887].text 國內大宗物質的採購
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transcript.whisperx[2888].text 另外一方面說有一些
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transcript.whisperx[2889].text 台灣的企業去美國投資
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transcript.whisperx[2890].text 等等這些的作為
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transcript.whisperx[2891].text 稍微做一點平衡
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transcript.whisperx[2892].text 政府的作為
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transcript.whisperx[2893].text 是是是我
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transcript.whisperx[2894].text 非常贊同那個委員的這種看法
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transcript.whisperx[2895].text 這個貿易
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transcript.whisperx[2896].text 這個商品帳還是要
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transcript.whisperx[2897].text 付費啦也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[2898].text 你多買我的東西
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transcript.whisperx[2899].text 那我也要多買你的東西
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transcript.whisperx[2900].text 要付費貿易就是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[2901].text 是是是我非常贊同
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transcript.whisperx[2902].text 這幾年喔
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transcript.whisperx[2903].text 美國對我們是不是這個
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transcript.whisperx[2904].text 外匯管制的作為
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transcript.whisperx[2905].text 這些事情把我們列為
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transcript.whisperx[2906].text 觀察國家嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2907].text 因為我們要一直有在跟他做
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transcript.whisperx[2908].text 很好的溝通所以他
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transcript.whisperx[2910].text 操縱國現在但是
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transcript.whisperx[2911].text 還是長期把我們列為觀察國
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transcript.whisperx[2912].text 所以要拜託總裁還是要繼續努力
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transcript.whisperx[2914].text 因為如果被列入操縱國那就不得了了
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transcript.whisperx[2915].text 是啦是啦那當然
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transcript.whisperx[2916].text 我想我也趁這個
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transcript.whisperx[2917].text 機會跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2918].text 就是說事實上我們長
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transcript.whisperx[2919].text 長久以來呢我們跟
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transcript.whisperx[2920].text 美國財政部的一個溝通
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transcript.whisperx[2921].text 都是非常順暢的
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transcript.whisperx[2922].text 他也理解我們的說法
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transcript.whisperx[2923].text 那現在
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transcript.whisperx[2924].text 在全球戰略
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transcript.whisperx[2925].text 美國把台灣列為他的準盟友關係
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transcript.whisperx[2926].text 整個東亞建構整個
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transcript.whisperx[2927].text 戰隊的關係
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transcript.whisperx[2928].text 台灣是跟他站在同一隊
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transcript.whisperx[2929].text 所以他對我們當然也會比較客氣一點
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transcript.whisperx[2930].text 是啦是啦好
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transcript.whisperx[2931].text 那最後在剩下兩分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[2932].text 還有一個問題啊
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transcript.whisperx[2933].text 剛剛有委員提到我覺得那個也有點道理
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transcript.whisperx[2934].text 有一個名詞叫地方創生
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transcript.whisperx[2935].text 你知道嗎這個從日本過來的
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transcript.whisperx[2936].text 他就因為在地方本來他們
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transcript.whisperx[2937].text 人口很多後來一直外流因為
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transcript.whisperx[2938].text 全球都都市化嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2939].text 所以有一些鄉村或是比較蛋白區
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transcript.whisperx[2940].text 的人口都外流到這個
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transcript.whisperx[2943].text 的特色都一直衰減
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transcript.whisperx[2944].text 所以希望人口
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transcript.whisperx[2945].text 回流然後希望地方
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transcript.whisperx[2946].text 產業能夠發達
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transcript.whisperx[2947].text 把地方再重新繁榮
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transcript.whisperx[2948].text 恢復起來一部分
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transcript.whisperx[2949].text 這個叫地方創生日本
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transcript.whisperx[2950].text 是這樣的概念是是是剛剛其實
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transcript.whisperx[2951].text 也有委員提到你選擇信息
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transcript.whisperx[2952].text 用管制如果是全國一致性
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transcript.whisperx[2953].text 的時候那大都會
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transcript.whisperx[2955].text 管制是一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[2957].text 這個觀念來講
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transcript.whisperx[2958].text 是不利的因為
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transcript.whisperx[2959].text 都會化這是這一近百
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transcript.whisperx[2966].text 是需要鼓勵啦
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transcript.whisperx[2967].text 所以剛剛有委員提到說那是不是
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transcript.whisperx[2973].text 一個年輕人我願意反向
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transcript.whisperx[2977].text 全部都是一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[2989].text 全國都會
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transcript.whisperx[2992].text 非都會區
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transcript.whisperx[2994].text 當然我們就會把它
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transcript.whisperx[2995].text 就整個來控管
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transcript.whisperx[2998].text 程度的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3003].text 台東那個地方你說要
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transcript.whisperx[3014].text 將來如何調整這個政策
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transcript.whisperx[3051].text 一直認為以目前
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transcript.whisperx[3059].text 戰事以後那我們就是
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transcript.whisperx[3071].text 大概在全年從58.3
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transcript.whisperx[3074].text 3月你這個預測是
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transcript.whisperx[3079].text 我有看今天的這個
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transcript.whisperx[3080].text 不管是媒體都大幅報導
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transcript.whisperx[3081].text 戰事會繼續升溫
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transcript.whisperx[3082].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[3083].text 會帶動油價的上漲
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transcript.whisperx[3084].text 那我們看股匯市
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transcript.whisperx[3085].text 今天的股市今天也在
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transcript.whisperx[3086].text 下跌今天下跌了700多點
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transcript.whisperx[3087].text 所以你原來預測
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transcript.whisperx[3088].text 未來的經濟的成長動能
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transcript.whisperx[3089].text 會持續強勁向上
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transcript.whisperx[3090].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[3092].text 你聽我講完
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transcript.whisperx[3094].text 也會增加
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transcript.whisperx[3095].text 但是目前
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transcript.whisperx[3096].text 中東戰事進入第五周
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transcript.whisperx[3097].text 情勢繼續
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transcript.whisperx[3098].text 升溫大幅的
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transcript.whisperx[3099].text 推升全球的
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transcript.whisperx[3100].text 這個油市
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transcript.whisperx[3101].text 航運業及供應鏈
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transcript.whisperx[3102].text 陷入不確定性
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transcript.whisperx[3103].text 尤其是我們的加工產業
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transcript.whisperx[3104].text 鍛煉加劇
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transcript.whisperx[3105].text 這個氦氣肥料化學品的起漲
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transcript.whisperx[3106].text 低價石油已成過去式
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transcript.whisperx[3107].text 全球面臨停滯性的
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transcript.whisperx[3108].text 通膨風暴
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transcript.whisperx[3110].text 高度擔憂
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transcript.whisperx[3111].text 油市供應遭遇的兩大壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3112].text 會遭遇兩大壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3113].text 就是那個和姆茲海峽被封鎖
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transcript.whisperx[3114].text 所以經濟的
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transcript.whisperx[3115].text 加速成長是無妄的
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transcript.whisperx[3116].text 目前的局勢
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transcript.whisperx[3117].text 的演變是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[3118].text 所以央行
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transcript.whisperx[3119].text 您怎麼能夠這個
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transcript.whisperx[3120].text 到目前為止還該
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transcript.whisperx[3121].text 總裁會聽你講好像你還是
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transcript.whisperx[3122].text 講很樂觀
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transcript.whisperx[3123].text 我們也不是說
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transcript.whisperx[3124].text 很樂觀啦 我們是省省樂觀
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transcript.whisperx[3125].text 對 省省樂觀
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transcript.whisperx[3126].text 但是呢 我想呢
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transcript.whisperx[3127].text 我們也不會就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3128].text 我們的這個情境的分析呢
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transcript.whisperx[3129].text 就一直停留在這個啦
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transcript.whisperx[3130].text 85塊 那如果說
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transcript.whisperx[3131].text 就像委員的 現在戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[3132].text 好像也不是說
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transcript.whisperx[3133].text 很短時間就會結束啦
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transcript.whisperx[3134].text 而且優價可能會上上
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transcript.whisperx[3135].text 所以這個都是在我們關注的
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transcript.whisperx[3136].text 主題當中
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transcript.whisperx[3137].text 所以您應該提到嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3138].text 要省省的去因應
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transcript.whisperx[3139].text 是是是
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transcript.whisperx[3140].text 對對對
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transcript.whisperx[3141].text 沒有錯啦
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transcript.whisperx[3142].text 持續在升溫
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transcript.whisperx[3143].text 短期沒有那麼快結束嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3145].text 基礎設施的攻擊
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transcript.whisperx[3146].text 使得波斯灣石油
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transcript.whisperx[3147].text 以及其他重要的原物料出口受阻嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3148].text 嗯
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transcript.whisperx[3149].text 彭茉茜海峽這個是全球
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transcript.whisperx[3150].text 能源運輸的關鍵通道嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3151].text 所以它現在被封閉
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transcript.whisperx[3152].text 封閉起來啊
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transcript.whisperx[3153].text 不僅推高能源價格也提高企業生產的成本
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transcript.whisperx[3154].text 意志消費需求啊
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transcript.whisperx[3155].text 尤其是那個非必要支出
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transcript.whisperx[3156].text 進而拖累了經濟的成長
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transcript.whisperx[3157].text 甚至可能引發衰退
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transcript.whisperx[3158].text 同時同捧的壓力升溫
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transcript.whisperx[3159].text 使得各國央行
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transcript.whisperx[3160].text 被迫放棄
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transcript.whisperx[3161].text 被迫放棄降息計畫
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transcript.whisperx[3163].text 加劇經濟壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3165].text 請教你央行未來
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transcript.whisperx[3166].text 是否也會適度的
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transcript.whisperx[3167].text 跟各國的央行一樣
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transcript.whisperx[3169].text 戰事啊去採取
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transcript.whisperx[3170].text 升息的措施
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transcript.whisperx[3171].text 我們
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transcript.whisperx[3172].text 我在我們的記者會裡
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transcript.whisperx[3173].text 就是說李監事會
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transcript.whisperx[3174].text 完之後的記者會裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3175].text 我也有同樣的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3176].text 中央議長目前的態度
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transcript.whisperx[3177].text 是比較朝向緊縮的一個態度
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transcript.whisperx[3178].text 緊縮
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transcript.whisperx[3180].text 還是繼續動輒
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transcript.whisperx[3181].text 繼續緊縮
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transcript.whisperx[3182].text 所以呢
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transcript.whisperx[3183].text 要傾向
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transcript.whisperx[3186].text 這個還
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transcript.whisperx[3188].text 是 因為
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transcript.whisperx[3189].text 這個情勢那麼緊張啊
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transcript.whisperx[3190].text 這個壓力一直來
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transcript.whisperx[3191].text 所以就是說我們的
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transcript.whisperx[3192].text focus是1.8
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transcript.whisperx[3193].text 1.8應該是
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transcript.whisperx[3195].text OK 好 總裁我接下來跟你
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transcript.whisperx[3196].text 討論通膨風險值的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3198].text 向來是我們各國央行
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transcript.whisperx[3199].text 尤其我們中央聯盟也是
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transcript.whisperx[3201].text 在中東情勢的升溫下
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transcript.whisperx[3203].text 持續升高
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transcript.whisperx[3205].text 掌握驅動物價
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transcript.whisperx[3206].text 變動的關鍵因素
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transcript.whisperx[3207].text 已成為我們貨幣政策的重要課題
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transcript.whisperx[3208].text 因此本席
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transcript.whisperx[3209].text 看到央行最新的研究指出
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transcript.whisperx[3210].text 未來可建構
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transcript.whisperx[3211].text 通膨風險值作為
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transcript.whisperx[3212].text 輔助工具
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transcript.whisperx[3213].text 從整體的分布角度分析
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transcript.whisperx[3214].text 未來通膨可能的區間
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transcript.whisperx[3215].text 與發生的機率
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transcript.whisperx[3217].text 精準度與精湛性
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transcript.whisperx[3218].text 所以請問
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transcript.whisperx[3219].text 這個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[3220].text 通膨呈現高度不確定
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transcript.whisperx[3221].text 甚至具有跳躍式的上升風險
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transcript.whisperx[3222].text 這個時候還能用
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transcript.whisperx[3223].text 平均數來決策嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3224].text 會不會有日後現實的情況
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transcript.whisperx[3225].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3226].text 事實上您說的也沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[3227].text 因為現在
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transcript.whisperx[3228].text 現在大部分
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transcript.whisperx[3229].text 現在大部分
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transcript.whisperx[3230].text 大部分都是用那個什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3231].text 都是用一個
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transcript.whisperx[3232].text 平均數
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transcript.whisperx[3233].text 都是用一個
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transcript.whisperx[3234].text 不是說基本啦
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transcript.whisperx[3235].text 就像說我們58.3
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transcript.whisperx[3236].text 把它提升到85
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transcript.whisperx[3237].text 那如果說把這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[3238].text 放進去的時候呢
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transcript.whisperx[3239].text 這個就是一個機率分配的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3240].text 那也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3241].text 好,那最差的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3242].text scenario呢
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transcript.whisperx[3243].text 可能是100
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transcript.whisperx[3246].text 那這樣的話呢
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transcript.whisperx[3247].text 它就有一個range
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transcript.whisperx[3248].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3249].text 在這一段期間呢
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transcript.whisperx[3251].text 可能就會在這個range裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3252].text 它所發生的機率呢
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transcript.whisperx[3253].text 大概是多少
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transcript.whisperx[3254].text 它是把機率,這個是比較科學啦
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transcript.whisperx[3255].text 比較統計的方法
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transcript.whisperx[3256].text 這個是比較
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transcript.whisperx[3257].text 我們都是正在
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transcript.whisperx[3258].text 正在研究中
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transcript.whisperx[3259].text 那是否已經有具體的數據
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transcript.whisperx[3260].text 具體的數據啊
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transcript.whisperx[3261].text 例如說我們在最壞的環境下
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transcript.whisperx[3262].text 通膨可能是多少
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transcript.whisperx[3263].text 機率的分佈是怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[3264].text 有沒有這樣的數據
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transcript.whisperx[3265].text 我們只能說
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transcript.whisperx[3266].text 我們只能說這個
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transcript.whisperx[3267].text 還在研究階段
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transcript.whisperx[3271].text 因為probability啊,這個可能我一部分
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transcript.whisperx[3272].text 那個總裁,我是要問你啦
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transcript.whisperx[3273].text 你現在已經在著手研究了
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transcript.whisperx[3274].text 但是你現在的研究是已經
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transcript.whisperx[3275].text 已經完備沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3276].text 準備把它納入我們未來決策的階段
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transcript.whisperx[3277].text 都還沒有啦
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transcript.whisperx[3278].text 只是一個在內的形成
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transcript.whisperx[3279].text 我想過去幾年
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transcript.whisperx[3280].text 我們全球發生最大的錯誤
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transcript.whisperx[3281].text 就是低估極端通膨的發生機率
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transcript.whisperx[3283].text 到現在
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transcript.whisperx[3284].text 戰爭與能源的衝擊
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transcript.whisperx[3285].text 都是典型的
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transcript.whisperx[3286].text 尾端風險成真
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transcript.whisperx[3287].text 所以目前央行的政策模型中
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transcript.whisperx[3288].text 是否有納入
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transcript.whisperx[3290].text 比如說美統現在漲破
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transcript.whisperx[3291].text 可能會漲破超過150美元
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transcript.whisperx[3292].text 區域戰爭擴大
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transcript.whisperx[3293].text 全球供應鏈可能會再度中斷
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transcript.whisperx[3295].text 有沒有納入這樣的情境的分析
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transcript.whisperx[3296].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[3297].text 委員
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transcript.whisperx[3299].text 在概念上
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transcript.whisperx[3302].text 但是我們不便
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transcript.whisperx[3303].text 在這邊講說
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transcript.whisperx[3304].text 如果說到200塊的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3305].text 250塊的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3306].text 他會怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[3307].text 我覺得這個不適合
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transcript.whisperx[3308].text 在這種沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3309].text 發生你不用講出來
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transcript.whisperx[3310].text 你用這種
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transcript.whisperx[3311].text 發生你不用講出來
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transcript.whisperx[3312].text 你用這種
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transcript.whisperx[3314].text 但是會有
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transcript.whisperx[3315].text 我們會納入這種情境分析
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transcript.whisperx[3316].text 我們這個情境分析
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transcript.whisperx[3317].text 應該會納入吧
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transcript.whisperx[3318].text 但是我們不會就說這樣就把它公開出來
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transcript.whisperx[3319].text 因為那個不成熟
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transcript.whisperx[3320].text 最後一題我再請教你
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transcript.whisperx[3321].text 有關美國政府近期又在
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transcript.whisperx[3322].text 啟動新人的301條款的調查
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transcript.whisperx[3323].text 火鍋也被列入為調查國家
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transcript.whisperx[3324].text 行政院表示
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transcript.whisperx[3328].text 總裁我想請問你
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transcript.whisperx[3329].text 這次被列入調查名單
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transcript.whisperx[3330].text 對於未來我們台幣匯率的走向
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transcript.whisperx[3332].text 匯率操縱也是美國的調查終點
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transcript.whisperx[3333].text 這次我國
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transcript.whisperx[3334].text 再次被列入
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transcript.whisperx[3336].text 仍然認為我們的
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transcript.whisperx[3340].text 所以台美
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transcript.whisperx[3341].text 也不會影響我們台美對跟貓鷹協定
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transcript.whisperx[3343].text 就是他即便我們被
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transcript.whisperx[3344].text 進入這個列入301
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transcript.whisperx[3349].text 不是商務部
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transcript.whisperx[3353].text 一個溝通
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transcript.whisperx[3355].text 歷年以來
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transcript.whisperx[3356].text 跟美國財政部的溝通都非常的順利
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transcript.whisperx[3357].text OK
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transcript.whisperx[3358].text 謝謝林委員
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transcript.whisperx[3359].text 下一位資訊委員請
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transcript.whisperx[3360].text 嚴寬恒委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[3361].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[3362].text 主席有請我們楊行楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[3363].text 請楊行楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[3364].text 楊委員早
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transcript.whisperx[3365].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[3366].text 總裁好
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transcript.whisperx[3367].text 首先先跟你探討
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transcript.whisperx[3368].text 利率的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3369].text 中東戰爭打到現在已經
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transcript.whisperx[3370].text 快一個月了
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transcript.whisperx[3371].text 但是依舊沒有緩和的趨勢
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transcript.whisperx[3372].text 國際油價一度飆漲
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transcript.whisperx[3373].text 甚至於創了四年來的新高
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transcript.whisperx[3374].text 同時也帶動了食品
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transcript.whisperx[3375].text 跟糧食價格的飆漲
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transcript.whisperx[3376].text 所以引發了市場擔憂
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transcript.whisperx[3377].text 除了擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3378].text 中東戰事升溫
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transcript.whisperx[3379].text 也怕會出現通膨升高
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transcript.whisperx[3380].text 經濟成長減緩的
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transcript.whisperx[3381].text 停滯性通膨的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3382].text 雖然目前
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transcript.whisperx[3383].text 全球央行
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transcript.whisperx[3384].text 就是美國、加拿大、日本、英國、歐洲等
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transcript.whisperx[3385].text 他們接續做出
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transcript.whisperx[3386].text 維持利率不變的決定
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transcript.whisperx[3387].text 但同時對未來通膨
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transcript.whisperx[3388].text 升溫也提出警告
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transcript.whisperx[3389].text 那你有
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transcript.whisperx[3390].text 你們有建構一個通膨風險值
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transcript.whisperx[3392].text 將有助於央行
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transcript.whisperx[3393].text 依照這個預測結果
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transcript.whisperx[3394].text 那請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[3395].text 目前預測的結果是怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[3396].text 可不可以說明一下
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transcript.whisperx[3397].text 現在還是在研究當中
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transcript.whisperx[3398].text 不過這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[3399].text 我們以前我們都有
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transcript.whisperx[3400].text 只是說沒有到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[3401].text 還沒有一個具體化
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transcript.whisperx[3402].text 而且全球中央銀行很少數的國家
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transcript.whisperx[3403].text 除了英國
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transcript.whisperx[3405].text 通膨的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3407].text 就有一點類似我們現在所講的
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transcript.whisperx[3408].text 這個IMF的
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transcript.whisperx[3409].text 風險值的
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transcript.whisperx[3412].text 我們有以前
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transcript.whisperx[3413].text 基本上我們以前就有這個概念
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transcript.whisperx[3414].text 只是說我們在深入在探討它
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transcript.whisperx[3415].text 只是說到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[3416].text 我們還沒有就是說有做
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transcript.whisperx[3417].text 做這樣的就像英國的
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transcript.whisperx[3418].text 這樣的一個扇形的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3420].text 到目前為止我們還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3421].text 還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3422].text 做完一個完整的報告還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3424].text 事實上
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transcript.whisperx[3425].text 雖然就是說這個也是一個學術探討的主題
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transcript.whisperx[3426].text 不過我以前
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transcript.whisperx[3427].text 我對英國的這種
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transcript.whisperx[3428].text 它的一個預測方法
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transcript.whisperx[3429].text 我也不會覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3430].text 是非常的先進
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transcript.whisperx[3431].text 我也不會認為它是很先進
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transcript.whisperx[3434].text 挑戰跟應對措施需要
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transcript.whisperx[3435].text 綜合考量多方面的因素
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transcript.whisperx[3436].text 尤其是中東戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[3437].text 還有能源飆漲的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3438].text 我們是一個高度依賴進口能源的開放型的經濟體
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transcript.whisperx[3440].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[3441].text 命名的一個嚴峻的挑戰
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transcript.whisperx[3442].text 尤其是能源跟海運的成本
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transcript.whisperx[3445].text 造成了絕對的壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3446].text 所以央行在這一塊
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transcript.whisperx[3447].text 你要面對這一些挑戰
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transcript.whisperx[3448].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[3449].text 是否會選擇生息
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transcript.whisperx[3450].text 或者是應對持續的
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transcript.whisperx[3454].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3455].text 對於台灣目前
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transcript.whisperx[3456].text 中東所產生的原物料價格上漲
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transcript.whisperx[3458].text 事實上
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transcript.whisperx[3460].text 是有效的我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[3461].text 另外一方面中央銀行必須要做的
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transcript.whisperx[3462].text 第一個我們要
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transcript.whisperx[3463].text 防止這個
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transcript.whisperx[3464].text 輸入型的通膨的問題的疑慮
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transcript.whisperx[3465].text 這是第一個
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transcript.whisperx[3466].text 就是說那所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[3467].text 要防止這個輸入性通膨的
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transcript.whisperx[3468].text 一個壓力的話
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transcript.whisperx[3469].text 第一個我們的匯率一定要穩定
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transcript.whisperx[3470].text 這個是中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[3471].text 這是我們的職責
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transcript.whisperx[3473].text 因為油價高你又匯率如果說大無貶值的話
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transcript.whisperx[3474].text 就雪上加霜
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transcript.whisperx[3475].text 這是第一點
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transcript.whisperx[3476].text 第二點你剛剛所講的利率
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transcript.whisperx[3477].text 利率是屬於需求面的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3478].text 控管的一個工具
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transcript.whisperx[3479].text 在供給面的一個問題上
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transcript.whisperx[3480].text 用需求面去
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transcript.whisperx[3481].text 解決它
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transcript.whisperx[3482].text 比較不方便
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transcript.whisperx[3483].text 比較不好
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transcript.whisperx[3484].text 但是它在第二輪也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3486].text 在上升的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3492].text 我們必須要準備在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[3493].text 這個就是說為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3494].text 全球的中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[3495].text 對這一次的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3496].text 中東的戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[3497].text 他們的態度從以前的
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transcript.whisperx[3499].text 變成現在是要緊縮的態度
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transcript.whisperx[3501].text 也是一樣的我們是要stand by
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transcript.whisperx[3502].text 就在適當的時機
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transcript.whisperx[3504].text 也必須要
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transcript.whisperx[3505].text 好 別人 奏
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transcript.whisperx[3506].text 我們長期的觀察
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transcript.whisperx[3507].text 銀行在匯率操作上
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transcript.whisperx[3508].text 是採這個非對稱性的
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transcript.whisperx[3509].text 就是俗稱的說
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transcript.whisperx[3511].text 深不足扁
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transcript.whisperx[3512].text 阻擋的阻
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transcript.whisperx[3513].text 就是說當新台幣
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transcript.whisperx[3514].text 有升值壓力的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3515].text 我們央行會積極的干預
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transcript.whisperx[3516].text 為了要保護我們這些出口業
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transcript.whisperx[3517].text 出口產業
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transcript.whisperx[3518].text 但是當面對貶值所引發
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transcript.whisperx[3520].text 干預利益就相對保守
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transcript.whisperx[3521].text 所以我們從30一直到現在30
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transcript.whisperx[3522].text 都不夠
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transcript.whisperx[3523].text 補好委員你講這個的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3524].text 我才要
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transcript.whisperx[3525].text 再藉這個機會跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3526].text 事實上
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transcript.whisperx[3527].text 市面上這種政說法
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transcript.whisperx[3528].text 是完全完全
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transcript.whisperx[3529].text 他沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3530].text 那個什麼實務上的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3531].text 實務上的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3532].text 實務上的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3533].text 一個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3534].text 實務上他不知道
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transcript.whisperx[3535].text 實務上中央銀行是怎麼運作的
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transcript.whisperx[3536].text 所以呢說
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transcript.whisperx[3537].text 中央銀行主升是不足扁
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transcript.whisperx[3538].text 這個確實
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transcript.whisperx[3539].text 在實務上是說不通的
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transcript.whisperx[3540].text 在理論上是好像
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transcript.whisperx[3541].text 在市場上好像很容易接受
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transcript.whisperx[3542].text 就是說主升不足扁
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transcript.whisperx[3543].text 現在美台
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transcript.whisperx[3544].text 台幣差持續擴大
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transcript.whisperx[3545].text 所以台幣貶值壓力很大
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transcript.whisperx[3546].text 那這種偏弱
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transcript.whisperx[3547].text 所以說我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[3548].text 央行持續這種偏弱貨幣的
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transcript.whisperx[3549].text 隱性政策
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transcript.whisperx[3551].text 我們一手
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transcript.whisperx[3552].text 就是要控制通膨
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transcript.whisperx[3553].text 但另外你就放任費力貶值
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transcript.whisperx[3554].text 沒有放任
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transcript.whisperx[3555].text 所以要積極的作為
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transcript.whisperx[3556].text 積極的作為
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transcript.whisperx[3557].text 也是說建議啦
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transcript.whisperx[3558].text 總裁會說是不是
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transcript.whisperx[3559].text 我們要願意說
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transcript.whisperx[3560].text 來放棄
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transcript.whisperx[3561].text 真的有考量
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transcript.whisperx[3562].text 出口率都可以考量
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transcript.whisperx[3563].text 跟讓我們費力適度的升值
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transcript.whisperx[3564].text 來抵消我們國際能源
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transcript.whisperx[3565].text 漲價的這樣子的壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3566].text 我跟委員報告啦
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transcript.whisperx[3567].text 就是說在三月以後
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transcript.whisperx[3568].text 在三月以後
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transcript.whisperx[3569].text 就是說美元獨搶
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transcript.whisperx[3570].text 美元獨搶的意思是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3571].text 所有的貨幣都對美元都貶值
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transcript.whisperx[3572].text 都對美元貶值
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transcript.whisperx[3573].text 那好那如果說所有貨幣
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transcript.whisperx[3574].text 都對美元貶值的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3575].text 中央銀行就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3576].text 新台幣它在這個貶值的過程當中
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transcript.whisperx[3577].text 只要我們中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[3578].text 新台幣貶值的幅度
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transcript.whisperx[3579].text 低於
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transcript.whisperx[3580].text 好我們就說鄰近的國家
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transcript.whisperx[3581].text 像韓國跟日本
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transcript.whisperx[3582].text 如果說我們它貶值的幅度
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transcript.whisperx[3583].text 比我們大的話
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transcript.whisperx[3584].text 那表示什麼表示新台幣也是
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transcript.whisperx[3585].text 升值啊
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transcript.whisperx[3586].text 是不是因為相對的
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transcript.whisperx[3587].text 相對的這是相對的
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transcript.whisperx[3588].text 美元獨搶的情況之下
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transcript.whisperx[3589].text 因為時間有限
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transcript.whisperx[3590].text 那個我在請教
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transcript.whisperx[3591].text 那央行這19日
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transcript.whisperx[3592].text 舉行第一劑比金是會
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transcript.whisperx[3593].text 然後將全國
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transcript.whisperx[3594].text 資安人的第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[3595].text 貨物貸款乘數由五成調升到六成
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transcript.whisperx[3596].text 對那這樣子一個
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transcript.whisperx[3597].text 這個為福
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transcript.whisperx[3598].text 的放寬稀令管制
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transcript.whisperx[3599].text 是不是因為央行已經意見了
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transcript.whisperx[3600].text 這個房市已經緩和
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transcript.whisperx[3601].text 的這個這樣子的情況嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3602].text 是這樣子嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3604].text 第一個就是說我們
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transcript.whisperx[3605].text 在我們的選擇性
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transcript.whisperx[3606].text 管制到目前我們也有
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transcript.whisperx[3607].text 得到一些的成效
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transcript.whisperx[3609].text 我們
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transcript.whisperx[3610].text 是不是我們完全滿足
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transcript.whisperx[3611].text 也不見得
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transcript.whisperx[3612].text 這是第一個就是說我有一定的成效
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transcript.whisperx[3615].text 他是自助的
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transcript.whisperx[3616].text 他是自助的那你要滿足他的
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transcript.whisperx[3617].text 一個需求
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transcript.whisperx[3618].text 對於那個自助的話我想
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transcript.whisperx[3619].text 我們跟他限制的
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transcript.whisperx[3620].text 太嚴格的話也不
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transcript.whisperx[3621].text 不必要
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transcript.whisperx[3622].text 總之你在媒體上有回應說
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transcript.whisperx[3623].text 這一次的放寬
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transcript.whisperx[3624].text 就是為了要回應
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transcript.whisperx[3625].text 父女幫兒女買房的
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transcript.whisperx[3626].text 需求那就是強調說
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transcript.whisperx[3627].text 是針對自助
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transcript.whisperx[3629].text 依然是高掛在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[3630].text 那新陳日的價格持續在上漲
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transcript.whisperx[3631].text 而你選在這個連8季
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transcript.whisperx[3632].text 這個動息的同時
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transcript.whisperx[3633].text 來放寬這個性用管制
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transcript.whisperx[3634].text 我想這個訊號
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transcript.whisperx[3635].text 會不會
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transcript.whisperx[3636].text 給我們這些
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transcript.whisperx[3637].text 建商或者是投資
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transcript.whisperx[3638].text 投機客
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transcript.whisperx[3639].text 來把它解釋成
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transcript.whisperx[3640].text 說成是我們央行
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transcript.whisperx[3641].text 是變成說
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transcript.whisperx[3642].text 支持房價
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transcript.whisperx[3643].text 這樣子的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3644].text 一個最偉的政策
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transcript.whisperx[3645].text 我們要如何保證這一層的
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transcript.whisperx[3648].text 所以這個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3649].text 對所以我們
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transcript.whisperx[3650].text 也一直在強調我們這一次的
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transcript.whisperx[3652].text 是一個微調
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transcript.whisperx[3653].text 所以也就是說微調
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transcript.whisperx[3654].text 所以我們非常的謹慎
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transcript.whisperx[3656].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3661].text 讓我們最終目標
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transcript.whisperx[3662].text 是希望讓房價能夠回到
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transcript.whisperx[3663].text 這個回歸
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transcript.whisperx[3665].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[3667].text 下一位諮詢委員
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transcript.whisperx[3668].text 請羅明財委員諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[3669].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[3670].text 各位委員處列席官員
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transcript.whisperx[3671].text 大家好可否請楊項
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transcript.whisperx[3672].text 請周恩榮楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[3673].text 還有是不是中央
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transcript.whisperx[3677].text 林總經理
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transcript.whisperx[3678].text 林總經理
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transcript.whisperx[3679].text 總裁你好
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transcript.whisperx[3680].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[3681].text 會會存底喔
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transcript.whisperx[3682].text 很高啊
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transcript.whisperx[3683].text 還好啦
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transcript.whisperx[3684].text 是不是個秀肌肉的好機會
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transcript.whisperx[3685].text 喔喔喔是
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transcript.whisperx[3686].text 實際上我們沒有這個意思啦
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transcript.whisperx[3687].text 我們沒有這個意思啦
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transcript.whisperx[3688].text 沒有這個意思喔
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transcript.whisperx[3689].text 我們發現說我們外匯存底喔
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transcript.whisperx[3690].text 持續在高深
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transcript.whisperx[3695].text 啊
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transcript.whisperx[3699].text 第二個呢他的外匯存底投資的成效不夠好
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transcript.whisperx[3700].text 你看喔那個黃金喔
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transcript.whisperx[3701].text 我們的儲備是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[3702].text 有不同的
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transcript.whisperx[3703].text 必備黃金等等喔
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transcript.whisperx[3704].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[3705].text 那大概這五年前到現在
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transcript.whisperx[3709].text 你看全世界喔
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transcript.whisperx[3712].text 購入啊買最多的是哪幾個國家
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transcript.whisperx[3713].text 大概是Russia跟中國大陸
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transcript.whisperx[3716].text 啊
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transcript.whisperx[3724].text 法國呢
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transcript.whisperx[3725].text 法國好像也沒有買
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transcript.whisperx[3726].text 南韓也沒有買
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transcript.whisperx[3727].text 沒有最近沒有買
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transcript.whisperx[3728].text 我說這五年
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transcript.whisperx[3729].text 這五年
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transcript.whisperx[3730].text 好像他前一波有買
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transcript.whisperx[3731].text 有啦他前一波的時候有買
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transcript.whisperx[3732].text 不過呢
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transcript.whisperx[3733].text 那一次他買的時候呢據我了解
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transcript.whisperx[3736].text 但是後來下來
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transcript.whisperx[3737].text 他嚇了一跳
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transcript.whisperx[3738].text 結果呢他就後來他就不敢買
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transcript.whisperx[3740].text 這樣砰砰砰一直在上去
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transcript.whisperx[3741].text 黃金漲了喔
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transcript.whisperx[3742].text 黃金漲了那麼多
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transcript.whisperx[3745].text 我沒買
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transcript.whisperx[3746].text 都不買
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transcript.whisperx[3750].text 梅恩啊
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transcript.whisperx[3752].text 也不是說
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transcript.whisperx[3753].text 也不是說我對
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transcript.whisperx[3754].text 美元有特別的信心
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transcript.whisperx[3756].text 我們是比較
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transcript.whisperx[3757].text 各個幣別來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[3758].text 相對的
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transcript.whisperx[3759].text 也不是說因為我們對美元
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transcript.whisperx[3760].text 有絕對的信心
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transcript.whisperx[3761].text 然後呢我們的外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[3762].text 美元的部位才會比較大
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transcript.whisperx[3763].text 不過我跟
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transcript.whisperx[3764].text 委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3765].text 我們的進出口廠商
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transcript.whisperx[3766].text 百分之九十到九十五
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transcript.whisperx[3767].text 他的報價都是用什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3770].text 他的報價都是在百分之九十到九十五
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transcript.whisperx[3771].text 都是用美元來報價的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3772].text 那我們的外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[3773].text 是不是也要因應他
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transcript.whisperx[3774].text 那總裁
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transcript.whisperx[3775].text 你也不能就是說我們對美元
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transcript.whisperx[3776].text 特別有信心
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transcript.whisperx[3777].text 這是第一點
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transcript.whisperx[3778].text 也就是說我們的進出口廠商
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transcript.whisperx[3779].text 他大部分的報價都是
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transcript.whisperx[3781].text 那當然我們外匯存底就是以美元為主
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transcript.whisperx[3782].text 這是第一點
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transcript.whisperx[3783].text 第二點以整個全球的
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transcript.whisperx[3784].text 一個貨幣制度來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[3785].text 美元他就是
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transcript.whisperx[3786].text 共同的貨幣
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transcript.whisperx[3787].text 現在全世界你的說法最強就是美元
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transcript.whisperx[3788].text 所以
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transcript.whisperx[3789].text 我們外匯存底持有美元的
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transcript.whisperx[3790].text 比重也很高啊
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transcript.whisperx[3791].text 那當然啊
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transcript.whisperx[3792].text 我剛剛在說
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transcript.whisperx[3793].text 第一個我們的進出口廠商的報價
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transcript.whisperx[3795].text 都是用美元啊
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transcript.whisperx[3796].text 那我看你也很聰明啊
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transcript.whisperx[3797].text 你美元大概我們持有
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transcript.whisperx[3798].text 有沒有百分之六十五
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transcript.whisperx[3800].text 佔我們的外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[3801].text 有沒有百分之六十五
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transcript.whisperx[3802].text 有 接近七成
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transcript.whisperx[3803].text 有啊
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transcript.whisperx[3804].text 比重又變高了
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transcript.whisperx[3805].text 那其他百分之三十
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transcript.whisperx[3806].text 是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3807].text 這就我們diversify
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transcript.whisperx[3808].text 我們把他
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transcript.whisperx[3809].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[3810].text 多元化
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transcript.whisperx[3811].text 第二比重最高的
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transcript.whisperx[3812].text 第二比重
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transcript.whisperx[3813].text 第二比重的話
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transcript.whisperx[3814].text 我們要看情況啦
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transcript.whisperx[3815].text 因為有的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3816].text 有的時候是歐元
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transcript.whisperx[3818].text 有些時候是其他的貨幣
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transcript.whisperx[3819].text 為什麼你會想持有人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3820].text 為什麼你會想持有人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3821].text 人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3822].text 因為我跟委員報告啦
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transcript.whisperx[3823].text 人民幣是因為我們台灣
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transcript.whisperx[3824].text 跟中國大陸的一個貿易呢
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transcript.whisperx[3825].text 他
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transcript.whisperx[3826].text 他的這個要清算的時候呢
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transcript.whisperx[3827].text 人民幣就是本身
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transcript.whisperx[3828].text 因為我們跟他的貿易很大
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transcript.whisperx[3829].text 所以也就是說我們
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transcript.whisperx[3830].text 必須要有部分的人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3831].text 作為
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transcript.whisperx[3832].text 我們的廠商跟中國
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transcript.whisperx[3833].text 大陸的一個廠商的一個清算的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3835].text 有沒有占百分之五
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transcript.whisperx[3836].text 上上下下
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transcript.whisperx[3837].text 上上下
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transcript.whisperx[3838].text 我跟各位
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transcript.whisperx[3839].text 有沒有超過三趴
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transcript.whisperx[3840].text 我現在忘了啦
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transcript.whisperx[3841].text 待會我底下的時候我再告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[3842].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3843].text 你會不會再加持人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3844].text 你會不會再增加持有人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3845].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3847].text 以前我們會多持有
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transcript.whisperx[3848].text 他有兩個因素
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transcript.whisperx[3849].text 第一個因素呢就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3850].text 我們跟中國大陸的一個貿易的往來大
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transcript.whisperx[3851].text 而且呢我們的廠商
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transcript.whisperx[3852].text 有一些呢他的收支
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transcript.whisperx[3853].text 大部分
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transcript.whisperx[3854].text 是有一部分是用人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3855].text 這是第一點
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transcript.whisperx[3856].text 第二點呢當時的那個人民幣的利率
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transcript.whisperx[3857].text 非常高
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transcript.whisperx[3858].text 他都比好像甚至都比美銀高喔
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transcript.whisperx[3859].text 所以呢在這種情況之下
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transcript.whisperx[3860].text 我們都都有一個
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transcript.whisperx[3861].text 比重就歐元人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3862].text 就是後來呢
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transcript.whisperx[3863].text 就下降下來為什麼會下降下來
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transcript.whisperx[3864].text 現在下降多少
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transcript.whisperx[3865].text 現在我現在不大曉得
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transcript.whisperx[3866].text 現在有沒有剩大概5%
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transcript.whisperx[3867].text 應該是第一點
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transcript.whisperx[3868].text 那歐元的持有大概有多少
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transcript.whisperx[3869].text 歐元的持有大概是差不多啦
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transcript.whisperx[3870].text 我們大部分第二個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3871].text 我們第二個必備我同事告訴我
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transcript.whisperx[3872].text 我們第二個必備就是歐元
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transcript.whisperx[3873].text 第二個是歐元
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transcript.whisperx[3874].text 第三個是人民幣
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transcript.whisperx[3875].text 第四個
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transcript.whisperx[3876].text 我們第四個的話呢就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3877].text 英鎊沒有日幣
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transcript.whisperx[3878].text 英鎊澳幣
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transcript.whisperx[3879].text 英鎊澳幣日元
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transcript.whisperx[3880].text 這些都是有
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transcript.whisperx[3881].text 加幣也有
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transcript.whisperx[3882].text 也蠻多元化的啦
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transcript.whisperx[3883].text 你會不會考慮說
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transcript.whisperx[3884].text 現在那個全世界
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transcript.whisperx[3885].text 變化喔
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transcript.whisperx[3886].text 很快
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transcript.whisperx[3887].text 每一站都
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transcript.whisperx[3888].text 二戰爭打完以後
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transcript.whisperx[3889].text 美金會不會變弱
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transcript.whisperx[3890].text 這個委員
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transcript.whisperx[3891].text 做這樣的一個預測
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transcript.whisperx[3892].text 我記得
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transcript.whisperx[3893].text 我記得就是說去年初
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transcript.whisperx[3894].text 去年初或是去年中以後
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transcript.whisperx[3895].text 大家就說
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transcript.whisperx[3896].text 美國
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transcript.whisperx[3897].text 要降息所以
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transcript.whisperx[3898].text 美元都會弱
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transcript.whisperx[3899].text 但是好像也沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3900].text 這麼一回事
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transcript.whisperx[3901].text 從最近來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[3902].text 它的指數呢
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transcript.whisperx[3903].text 是降到96但是最近都又
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transcript.whisperx[3904].text 降到100以上
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transcript.whisperx[3905].text 所以呢我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3906].text 匯率的預測
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transcript.whisperx[3907].text 很難啦
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transcript.whisperx[3908].text 你要在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[3909].text 叫我來預測說
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transcript.whisperx[3910].text 美元會強會弱
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transcript.whisperx[3911].text 誰知道
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transcript.whisperx[3913].text 它是用
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transcript.whisperx[3914].text 黃青
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transcript.whisperx[3915].text 來做發行準備
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transcript.whisperx[3916].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3917].text 發行美金是用什麼做準備
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transcript.whisperx[3918].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3919].text 等一下那我們新台幣的發行
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transcript.whisperx[3920].text 是用什麼來做準備
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transcript.whisperx[3921].text 黃金還有我們的
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transcript.whisperx[3922].text 外存底
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transcript.whisperx[3923].text 黃金很好啦
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transcript.whisperx[3924].text 一閃一閃亮晶晶
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transcript.whisperx[3925].text 黃金有多好賺
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transcript.whisperx[3926].text 我們黃金喔
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transcript.whisperx[3927].text 480幾噸
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transcript.whisperx[3928].text 200多
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transcript.whisperx[3930].text 423好像是一個
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transcript.whisperx[3931].text 護國神山
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transcript.whisperx[3933].text 有沒有減少
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transcript.whisperx[3934].text 我們沒有啊我們沒有減少
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transcript.whisperx[3935].text 有沒有增加
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transcript.whisperx[3936].text 沒有增加
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transcript.whisperx[3937].text 我們手上都是
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transcript.whisperx[3938].text 美金美債
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transcript.whisperx[3939].text 那你會不會考慮說
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transcript.whisperx[3940].text 萬一萬一
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transcript.whisperx[3942].text 走強以後就必定會走弱
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transcript.whisperx[3943].text 你會不會把手上
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transcript.whisperx[3944].text 的外匯存底
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transcript.whisperx[3945].text 來轉化來買一些
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transcript.whisperx[3947].text 我們也有考慮啦
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transcript.whisperx[3949].text 是還沒有做而已啦
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transcript.whisperx[3951].text 我怎麼會曉得
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transcript.whisperx[3953].text 是一個很好的時機
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transcript.whisperx[3954].text 是很好的時點的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3955].text 我們中央銀行會進去
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transcript.whisperx[3956].text 但是
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transcript.whisperx[3957].text 但是我跟
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transcript.whisperx[3959].text 會很謹慎啦
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transcript.whisperx[3961].text 以現在來講的話我總覺得他是貴啦
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transcript.whisperx[3962].text 現在貴喔
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transcript.whisperx[3963].text 那所以你覺得現在貴
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transcript.whisperx[3964].text 不貴喔事實上跟
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transcript.whisperx[3965].text 現在我們都是靠美金啦
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transcript.whisperx[3966].text 美元可是
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transcript.whisperx[3967].text 總統啊
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transcript.whisperx[3968].text 美國他的黃金儲備啊
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transcript.whisperx[3969].text 黃金還在不在啊
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transcript.whisperx[3970].text 你有見過嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3971].text 我看過啊
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transcript.whisperx[3972].text 我在美國看的
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transcript.whisperx[3973].text 你在哪個地方
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transcript.whisperx[3974].text 我在紐約看的
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transcript.whisperx[3975].text 紐約他是為聯邦銀行
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transcript.whisperx[3977].text 放那邊嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3978].text 那個不是最大宗
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transcript.whisperx[3979].text 最大宗是在肯特奇吧
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transcript.whisperx[3980].text 這個我就不曉得啦
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transcript.whisperx[3981].text 反正我看過啦
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transcript.whisperx[3982].text 肯特奇那個量是最大的
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transcript.whisperx[3983].text 連那個川普啊
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transcript.whisperx[3984].text 他Elon Musk
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transcript.whisperx[3985].text 上去的時候說
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transcript.whisperx[3986].text 50年沒人去看過
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transcript.whisperx[3987].text 黃金不曉得在不在
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transcript.whisperx[3988].text 應該在啦
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transcript.whisperx[3989].text 眼見為憑
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transcript.whisperx[3990].text 改天你可不可以帶我們去看一下
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transcript.whisperx[3991].text 我想中央銀行全球的中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[3992].text 都是很謹慎的啦
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transcript.whisperx[3996].text 中央銀行我們台灣的我去看過啦
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transcript.whisperx[3997].text 我們主席也去看過
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transcript.whisperx[3998].text 可是美國的我沒去看過
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transcript.whisperx[3999].text 總台你也沒看過啊
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transcript.whisperx[4000].text 不將心比心啦
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transcript.whisperx[4009].text 這個機率是零啦
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transcript.whisperx[4010].text 好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[4012].text 所以我在財政委員會14年了
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transcript.whisperx[4013].text 但是我沒有去過他們新店文員
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transcript.whisperx[4018].text 請問你現在說新台幣要改版
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transcript.whisperx[4019].text 有事實嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4020].text 確實有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4021].text 有啊有啊我們新台幣要改版了
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transcript.whisperx[4022].text 是改版幾塊錢的
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transcript.whisperx[4025].text 我們現在是初步
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transcript.whisperx[4026].text 初步我們也聽聽那個
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transcript.whisperx[4028].text 初步他們也認為就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4029].text 五個面額
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transcript.whisperx[4030].text 都改版
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transcript.whisperx[4031].text 五個面額喔
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transcript.whisperx[4032].text 你說紙幣喔
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transcript.whisperx[4033].text 2000啊1000啊
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transcript.whisperx[4037].text 五個面額全面要改喔
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transcript.whisperx[4038].text 因為我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4039].text 要花多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[4040].text 要花多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[4042].text 每張大概成本會增加1.5塊
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transcript.whisperx[4043].text 總共要花多少預算
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transcript.whisperx[4044].text 這個還不曉得
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transcript.whisperx[4045].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[4047].text 網路流放很大的進來
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transcript.whisperx[4048].text 是怎麼樣都還不曉得
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transcript.whisperx[4049].text 所以你沒有一個預算嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4050].text 改版沒有一個預算嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4051].text 我們還沒有編預算
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transcript.whisperx[4052].text 300億500億
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transcript.whisperx[4053].text 現在有沒有一個概念
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transcript.whisperx[4054].text 我想我這個謹慎一點
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transcript.whisperx[4055].text 大概哪個範圍
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transcript.whisperx[4056].text 100億到500億
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transcript.whisperx[4058].text 到時候又說
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transcript.whisperx[4059].text 沒有那個什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4060].text 要改版沒有花那麼多錢
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transcript.whisperx[4061].text 來這個第一個
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transcript.whisperx[4062].text 你心裡要有概念嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4063].text 沒有你如果打算要做
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transcript.whisperx[4064].text 你要知道啊
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transcript.whisperx[4065].text 到時候反正要提出來了
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transcript.whisperx[4066].text 第二個
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transcript.whisperx[4067].text 那個內容我看到前一陣子好像在做什麼調查什麼的
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transcript.whisperx[4069].text 對吧
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transcript.whisperx[4070].text 中華民國就有台澎金馬
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transcript.whisperx[4072].text 台澎金馬
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transcript.whisperx[4073].text 你們做改版不只說防衛技術
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transcript.whisperx[4074].text 還要重新定義
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transcript.whisperx[4076].text 所以代表台澎金馬
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transcript.whisperx[4077].text 有台灣
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transcript.whisperx[4080].text 你看一下
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transcript.whisperx[4081].text 利口豐富
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transcript.whisperx[4084].text 要跟我們思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[4085].text 這是金門的
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transcript.whisperx[4089].text 離島不要忘記
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transcript.whisperx[4090].text 我們是生命共同體
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transcript.whisperx[4091].text 我們是一個國家
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transcript.whisperx[4092].text 這個金門的水它也很漂亮
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transcript.whisperx[4093].text 我都沒有看你們選項裡面有這些東西
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transcript.whisperx[4094].text 全部都是台灣的一些
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transcript.whisperx[4095].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[4096].text 你有些什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4097].text 有19萬人民幣票選
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transcript.whisperx[4098].text 島嶼生態
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transcript.whisperx[4099].text 這個島這個圖上面
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transcript.whisperx[4100].text 沒有看到我們的島
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transcript.whisperx[4101].text 我們的島在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[4102].text 我們金門在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[4103].text 對吧
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transcript.whisperx[4104].text 保育東民族節慶這個還有一點感覺
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transcript.whisperx[4105].text 你做這個
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transcript.whisperx[4106].text 到時候不要改版出來
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transcript.whisperx[4107].text 那個地圖
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transcript.whisperx[4108].text 新台幣改版只剩下一個台灣島
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transcript.whisperx[4109].text 澎湖金門馬祖都不見了
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transcript.whisperx[4112].text 我希望這個楊台豪幫我們
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transcript.whisperx[4113].text 審慎的注意這一點
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transcript.whisperx[4114].text 你看你們現在的這個
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transcript.whisperx[4115].text 這個地圖上你們打算做這個
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transcript.whisperx[4116].text 以後的新台幣
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transcript.whisperx[4117].text 只有台灣島
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transcript.whisperx[4119].text 有澎湖
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transcript.whisperx[4120].text 整個設計
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transcript.whisperx[4121].text 都是台灣島
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transcript.whisperx[4122].text 101什麼地刺
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transcript.whisperx[4123].text 我們都沒有我們有那個水它
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transcript.whisperx[4124].text 是不是你要
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transcript.whisperx[4125].text 讓我們離島覺得說
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transcript.whisperx[4126].text 我們真的是同一個生命
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transcript.whisperx[4127].text 共同體
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transcript.whisperx[4128].text 你有加一點點離島的元素可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4130].text 是不是要幫我們思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[4131].text 難道以後
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transcript.whisperx[4132].text 我們台幣上面都要
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transcript.whisperx[4133].text 印的跟一些一樣
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transcript.whisperx[4134].text 現金門地區使用你們這個現台灣地區使用
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transcript.whisperx[4136].text 紙鈔
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transcript.whisperx[4137].text 你知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4139].text 我知道
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transcript.whisperx[4140].text 所以金門也出現了
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transcript.whisperx[4141].text 那你以後要印
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transcript.whisperx[4143].text 沒有嘛
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transcript.whisperx[4145].text 希望你們再考慮新的改版
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transcript.whisperx[4146].text 一定要把離島考慮進去
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transcript.whisperx[4154].text 生態我們有這個立侯峰湖
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transcript.whisperx[4155].text 跟你們的
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transcript.whisperx[4156].text 是地之什麼我們是立侯峰湖
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transcript.whisperx[4158].text 非常好看
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transcript.whisperx[4159].text 這個一定要記得
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transcript.whisperx[4160].text 這個共同的概念
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transcript.whisperx[4161].text 這我的助理弄出來的
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transcript.whisperx[4162].text 澎湖的玄武岩
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transcript.whisperx[4163].text 這個馬祖的藍眼淚
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transcript.whisperx[4164].text 金門的水它這樣是不是
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transcript.whisperx[4166].text 請你考慮離島人的這個想法
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transcript.whisperx[4170].text 才不會讓離島覺得這個
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transcript.whisperx[4173].text 才不會覺得所有東西我們都被
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transcript.whisperx[4174].text 好像沒有被化在一起
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transcript.whisperx[4175].text 財經公司
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transcript.whisperx[4176].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[4177].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[4178].text 我們這個要去考察
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transcript.whisperx[4179].text 貴公司就要考慮一個
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transcript.whisperx[4182].text 以前發行紙本券
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transcript.whisperx[4183].text 有很多高行政成本
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transcript.whisperx[4184].text 場所設限防衛
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transcript.whisperx[4187].text 有很多的好處
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transcript.whisperx[4188].text 那我來跟你們探討一下
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transcript.whisperx[4189].text 我現在講的這些想跟你探討
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transcript.whisperx[4190].text 那當然禮拜四的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4191].text 希望歡迎可以幫我們做相關的這個研究
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transcript.whisperx[4192].text TWQR 台灣碼
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transcript.whisperx[4193].text 一碼通
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transcript.whisperx[4194].text 我看這個做得不錯
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transcript.whisperx[4195].text 就是有
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transcript.whisperx[4196].text 而且有讓商家升級
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transcript.whisperx[4197].text 那我看財政部也有說如果用電子支付的話
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transcript.whisperx[4198].text 數位支付可能在稅的方面
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transcript.whisperx[4199].text 在小額
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transcript.whisperx[4201].text 可以給一點這個
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transcript.whisperx[4202].text 稅務上的這個優惠
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transcript.whisperx[4203].text 但是這時候
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transcript.whisperx[4204].text 後面的這個你們這個系統
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transcript.whisperx[4205].text 就相當重要
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transcript.whisperx[4206].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[4207].text 當然如果用這個電子數位支付的話
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transcript.whisperx[4209].text 那我來跟你
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transcript.whisperx[4210].text 講一下這個金門現在這個情形
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transcript.whisperx[4213].text 你看一下
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transcript.whisperx[4214].text 包括觀光
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transcript.whisperx[4215].text 這個金門有金門希望以後
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transcript.whisperx[4216].text 要做這個數位券
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transcript.whisperx[4217].text 我們現在有券嘛 你知道我們金門有很多的券
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transcript.whisperx[4218].text 我們有感恩券
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transcript.whisperx[4219].text 就配酒的
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transcript.whisperx[4220].text 酒券就是三節酒
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transcript.whisperx[4222].text 不是很清楚 但我知道金門有配酒
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transcript.whisperx[4223].text 我們反正我們就55歲到64歲
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transcript.whisperx[4225].text 我們每一年會發三萬六千元
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transcript.whisperx[4228].text 發錢
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transcript.whisperx[4229].text 然後還有每一節都還會配
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transcript.whisperx[4230].text 售酒是賣的
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transcript.whisperx[4231].text 但是用酒券
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transcript.whisperx[4232].text 然後還有當然金門很多社會福利措施
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transcript.whisperx[4233].text 不管這個那個各方面的
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transcript.whisperx[4235].text 這個從現在開始講到下午可能講不完
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transcript.whisperx[4237].text 這個東西要走向數位化
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transcript.whisperx[4238].text 所以我們希望 夏議員
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transcript.whisperx[4239].text 藉由我們財經公司
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transcript.whisperx[4240].text 這個專業能力幫我們做一個整合的
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transcript.whisperx[4243].text 像台灣在講這個什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4244].text 營養午餐免費 我們三十年前
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transcript.whisperx[4246].text 我們的公車免費 船免費
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transcript.whisperx[4247].text 兩塊 沒有免費
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transcript.whisperx[4249].text 這個補貼 交通
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transcript.whisperx[4250].text 進老的 津貼
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transcript.whisperx[4251].text 比如說一百多歲領七千九千
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transcript.whisperx[4252].text 就學每一個學期
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transcript.whisperx[4253].text 學生都發交通券 讀書券
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transcript.whisperx[4254].text 然後感恩券
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transcript.whisperx[4255].text 就是這個酒還有預算
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transcript.whisperx[4257].text 可以幫我們思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[4258].text 後面這個整個這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[4261].text 是的
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transcript.whisperx[4262].text 您知道我的意思嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4263].text 財經這個公司做這麼多研究
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transcript.whisperx[4264].text 那我感覺上在現在
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transcript.whisperx[4265].text 台灣整個普遍市面上
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transcript.whisperx[4266].text 好像也沒有用得很普遍
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transcript.whisperx[4267].text 就是有 但是還不夠普遍
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transcript.whisperx[4268].text 那是不是在這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[4269].text 財經公司可以特別幫忙思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[4270].text 是讓你可以做一個
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transcript.whisperx[4271].text 類似一個實驗的地方
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transcript.whisperx[4272].text 是 這個我們再跟委員請教
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transcript.whisperx[4275].text 怎麼跟我們的數位這個平台結合
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transcript.whisperx[4277].text 對 因為各式各樣的
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transcript.whisperx[4279].text 帶來的福利 不管是哪一類的福利
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transcript.whisperx[4284].text 也說明還更多
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transcript.whisperx[4288].text 從這邊開始實驗起 我想財經公司是可以
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transcript.whisperx[4289].text 扮演一個很重要的角色
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transcript.whisperx[4290].text 你們可以幫我
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transcript.whisperx[4291].text 幫我們金門做個相關
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transcript.whisperx[4292].text 這個研究嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4293].text 因為本身也很有基礎了嘛
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transcript.whisperx[4294].text 那我們禮拜四去考察的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4296].text 包括後端
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transcript.whisperx[4297].text 還有包括可能遇到什麼問題
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transcript.whisperx[4299].text 你看 消費上 然後
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transcript.whisperx[4302].text 政府好管理
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transcript.whisperx[4303].text 研究出來後也來跟我們地方政府做一個對接
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transcript.whisperx[4304].text 這個也可以讓財經公司
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transcript.whisperx[4305].text 扮演一個滿重要的角色
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transcript.whisperx[4306].text 沒問題吧
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transcript.whisperx[4307].text 禮拜四過去考察的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4308].text 麻煩提出相關的報告
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transcript.whisperx[4309].text 謝謝你
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transcript.whisperx[4310].text 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[4311].text 下一位質詢委員請王世堅委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[4312].text 謝謝主席 我請楊行楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4313].text 請座位委員楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4314].text 王委員早
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transcript.whisperx[4315].text 楊總裁辛苦了
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transcript.whisperx[4316].text 謝謝你鼓勵
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transcript.whisperx[4320].text 這個分析
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transcript.whisperx[4321].text 你們對於房市的管制
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transcript.whisperx[4322].text 一直都持著
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transcript.whisperx[4324].text 並沒有妥協
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transcript.whisperx[4325].text 這一點 社會大眾對你是非常肯定
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transcript.whisperx[4326].text 也感謝的
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transcript.whisperx[4327].text 只是我最近有一事不解
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transcript.whisperx[4328].text 也是關於這個房市的問題
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transcript.whisperx[4329].text 前年
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transcript.whisperx[4331].text 有動作先機
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transcript.whisperx[4332].text 當時你針對不動產
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transcript.whisperx[4333].text 放款的集中度
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transcript.whisperx[4335].text 這是對的
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transcript.whisperx[4336].text 前年的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4337].text 前年六月
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transcript.whisperx[4341].text 當時你就開始
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transcript.whisperx[4342].text 宣布要管制
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transcript.whisperx[4343].text 目標是35%
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transcript.whisperx[4344].text 這也都很正確
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transcript.whisperx[4345].text 很好
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transcript.whisperx[4347].text 去年的九月
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transcript.whisperx[4349].text 所以我們仍然
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transcript.whisperx[4351].text 這個都好
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transcript.whisperx[4352].text 到了這個
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transcript.whisperx[4353].text 去年十二月底
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transcript.whisperx[4354].text 貴行第四季
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transcript.whisperx[4355].text 的理監事會議的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4356].text 當時就鬆綁了集中度的管制
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transcript.whisperx[4357].text 當時是
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transcript.whisperx[4358].text 降0.01而已
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transcript.whisperx[4365].text 尤其在今年
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transcript.whisperx[4366].text 十天前
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transcript.whisperx[4370].text 自然人第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[4371].text 購屋貸款
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transcript.whisperx[4372].text 放寬從五成到六成
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transcript.whisperx[4373].text 這一點我就百思不解
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transcript.whisperx[4374].text 這一點我就不解
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transcript.whisperx[4379].text 離目標35%
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transcript.whisperx[4383].text 那個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4384].text 應該你也曉得
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transcript.whisperx[4385].text 第二戶會購買
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transcript.whisperx[4388].text 大多數都是投資客
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transcript.whisperx[4391].text 等於就是
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transcript.whisperx[4394].text 去藉由炒作
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transcript.whisperx[4395].text 去獲利去炒高房價
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transcript.whisperx[4399].text 集中度沒有降跟
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transcript.whisperx[4400].text 這個現在民眾的感覺
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transcript.whisperx[4401].text 也都息息相關
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transcript.whisperx[4403].text 比方說我就舉三大
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transcript.whisperx[4404].text 購屋痛苦指數好了
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transcript.whisperx[4405].text 購屋痛苦指數
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transcript.whisperx[4406].text 讓我們台灣讓我們國內
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transcript.whisperx[4407].text 台北是最高
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transcript.whisperx[4410].text 新北市
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transcript.whisperx[4412].text 痛苦指數
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transcript.whisperx[4413].text 台中
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transcript.whisperx[4417].text 依然居高之下
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transcript.whisperx[4421].text 國內房價所得比
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transcript.whisperx[4423].text 9.71倍
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transcript.whisperx[4424].text 也就是說不吃不喝
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transcript.whisperx[4425].text 要9.71年
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transcript.whisperx[4426].text 才有辦法來買房子
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transcript.whisperx[4427].text 哪
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transcript.whisperx[4428].text 第三
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transcript.whisperx[4430].text 房貸負擔率
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transcript.whisperx[4431].text 我們全多數國人
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transcript.whisperx[4432].text 把整個家庭收入
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transcript.whisperx[4433].text 比方說在台北市的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4434].text 有將近7成
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transcript.whisperx[4435].text 房貸負擔率將近7成
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transcript.whisperx[4436].text 高達7成之多
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transcript.whisperx[4437].text 全國平均
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transcript.whisperx[4440].text 這都很高
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transcript.whisperx[4441].text 大家辛苦工作所得
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transcript.whisperx[4442].text 結果都成了巫奴
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transcript.whisperx[4443].text 都成了巫奴
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transcript.whisperx[4444].text 所以在這三大
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transcript.whisperx[4445].text 面向的分析之下
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transcript.whisperx[4446].text 都是全民
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transcript.whisperx[4447].text 感受得到的痛苦
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transcript.whisperx[4448].text 之下
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transcript.whisperx[4449].text 結果我們突然間
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transcript.whisperx[4450].text 三月份
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transcript.whisperx[4451].text 好不容易堅持這麼久的
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transcript.whisperx[4452].text 哦
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transcript.whisperx[4453].text 根據我們這麼久的
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transcript.whisperx[4455].text 結果這次鬆綁了
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transcript.whisperx[4456].text 你看吧為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4457].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4459].text 委員的分析都非常的正確
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transcript.whisperx[4460].text 至於就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4462].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[4464].text 第一個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4466].text 下降到36
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transcript.whisperx[4467].text 這個是有一定的
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transcript.whisperx[4468].text 那個成效
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transcript.whisperx[4469].text 當然剛剛委員
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transcript.whisperx[4470].text 是說是我們的目標
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transcript.whisperx[4471].text 是35
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transcript.whisperx[4472].text 不過我們也沒有對外講
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transcript.whisperx[4473].text 就是說我們是我們的目標就是
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transcript.whisperx[4474].text 一定35
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transcript.whisperx[4475].text 這個要看情況
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transcript.whisperx[4476].text 35就是說是從
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transcript.whisperx[4478].text 35是確實是從低點
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transcript.whisperx[4479].text 往上的
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transcript.whisperx[4480].text 所以我想36到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[4481].text 我們只是說
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transcript.whisperx[4482].text 我們有一定的成效我們沒有說
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transcript.whisperx[4484].text 第二點我們之所以會放
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transcript.whisperx[4486].text 第二點我們為什麼會放寬
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transcript.whisperx[4487].text 第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[4490].text 也沒有非常正確
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transcript.whisperx[4491].text 就是說第一戶跟第二戶
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transcript.whisperx[4495].text 是第一戶
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transcript.whisperx[4500].text 分析我們的
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transcript.whisperx[4506].text 這是第二個第三個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4507].text 在我們管制的這一段
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transcript.whisperx[4508].text 期間裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4512].text 多少呢
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transcript.whisperx[4519].text 集中度減少
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transcript.whisperx[4524].text 它減少了多少呢
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transcript.whisperx[4526].text 那我們是覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4532].text 那我們是覺得就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4540].text 的impact應該是不會有多大的影響
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transcript.whisperx[4555].text 你們可能那邊有研究
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transcript.whisperx[4558].text 不我們這個
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transcript.whisperx[4559].text 對可能就是建商
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transcript.whisperx[4561].text 大舉的用
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transcript.whisperx[4563].text 去把這個
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transcript.whisperx[4564].text 他們當初
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transcript.whisperx[4565].text 的土龍建龍
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transcript.whisperx[4566].text 轉成分屋貸款
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transcript.whisperx[4567].text 這可能也是個原因
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transcript.whisperx[4570].text 最多
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transcript.whisperx[4574].text 主權基金
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transcript.whisperx[4575].text 主權基金
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transcript.whisperx[4576].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[4586].text 的看法到底是怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[4587].text 你支持還是不支持
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transcript.whisperx[4591].text 財政部發
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transcript.whisperx[4594].text 財政盈餘來做
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transcript.whisperx[4596].text 這樣你支不支持
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transcript.whisperx[4599].text 在我看我是認為我們一定要
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transcript.whisperx[4603].text 這是我們國家最大筆的
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transcript.whisperx[4604].text 這個來源
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transcript.whisperx[4606].text 鄰近的國家韓國馬來西亞
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transcript.whisperx[4607].text 香港他們都是
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transcript.whisperx[4608].text 所以我希望說
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transcript.whisperx[4609].text 是不是再來你針對說
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transcript.whisperx[4610].text 要有長撥用
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transcript.whisperx[4611].text 要有一定
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transcript.whisperx[4612].text 固定一個利潤
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transcript.whisperx[4613].text 以上才肯
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transcript.whisperx[4614].text 那你再研究一下要怎麼樣的利潤才肯
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transcript.whisperx[4615].text 因為我們大家
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transcript.whisperx[4616].text 把話挑明
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transcript.whisperx[4617].text 所以其實中央銀行你帶頭
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transcript.whisperx[4618].text 財政部經濟部金管會
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transcript.whisperx[4619].text 跟隨之下我們趕快
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transcript.whisperx[4620].text 來促成主權基金
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transcript.whisperx[4621].text 好不好因為主權基金
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transcript.whisperx[4622].text 我們到現在為止我們台灣確實
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transcript.whisperx[4623].text 有點慢了應該要
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transcript.whisperx[4624].text 積極加下去推動
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transcript.whisperx[4625].text 落實好不好
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transcript.whisperx[4626].text 謝謝各位
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transcript.whisperx[4627].text 再來下一位資訊委員請
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transcript.whisperx[4628].text 耿如居委員諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[4629].text 好謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4630].text 有請央行楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4631].text 請中央央行楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4632].text 各位早總裁早
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transcript.whisperx[4633].text 首先要感謝央行
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transcript.whisperx[4634].text 在去年底提供給我們
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transcript.whisperx[4635].text 比特幣是否作為央行
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transcript.whisperx[4636].text 的儲備資產有一份
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transcript.whisperx[4637].text 正反並成的報告
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transcript.whisperx[4638].text 這一點我們真的是要給你肯定
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transcript.whisperx[4639].text 裡面有提到捷克央行已經投入
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transcript.whisperx[4640].text 一百萬美元來購買加密
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transcript.whisperx[4641].text 資產同時我們
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transcript.whisperx[4642].text 感謝行政院感謝法庫部
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transcript.whisperx[4643].text 也協助我們調查了
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transcript.whisperx[4644].text 我們沒收扣押的比特幣
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transcript.whisperx[4645].text 台灣大概目前為止大概210
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transcript.whisperx[4646].text 顆目前已經可以排到全球
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transcript.whisperx[4647].text 將近前十的一個狀態
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transcript.whisperx[4648].text 雖然那個東西跟
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transcript.whisperx[4649].text 資產還有儲備還是有很長
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transcript.whisperx[4650].text 的距離但是我想我們開始
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transcript.whisperx[4651].text 理解這件事情是健康的
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transcript.whisperx[4652].text 各國其實非常關注
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transcript.whisperx[4653].text 這個也跟總裁介紹
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transcript.whisperx[4654].text 一下這是這個美國的
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transcript.whisperx[4655].text 參議員的幕僚辦公室的
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transcript.whisperx[4656].text 同仁之後去建立的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4657].text 這個比特幣戰略儲備的
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transcript.whisperx[4658].text 智庫所建立的
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transcript.whisperx[4659].text 台灣應該考量
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transcript.whisperx[4660].text 比特幣戰略儲備的一份報告
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transcript.whisperx[4661].text 那這個之後我們有機會
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transcript.whisperx[4662].text 再分享給總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4663].text 理念來說台灣相當適合
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transcript.whisperx[4664].text 持有一定程度量的比特幣
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transcript.whisperx[4665].text 原因在於我們的地緣政治
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transcript.whisperx[4666].text 的環境無論可能
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transcript.whisperx[4667].text 是要面對海上的封鎖
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transcript.whisperx[4668].text 或者全面的入侵的
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transcript.whisperx[4669].text 情況之下相較於
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transcript.whisperx[4670].text 純正的美元跟黃金
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transcript.whisperx[4671].text 比特幣是唯一一個可以在
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transcript.whisperx[4672].text 兩種情況下都完全
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transcript.whisperx[4673].text 可以存取的狀態
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transcript.whisperx[4674].text 使得世界上已經有40個
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transcript.whisperx[4675].text 以上的國家
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transcript.whisperx[4676].text 透過不同的方式來
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transcript.whisperx[4677].text 持有比特幣美國
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transcript.whisperx[4678].text 薩爾瓦多已經建立戰略儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4679].text 不但俄羅斯透過挖礦
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transcript.whisperx[4680].text 中國大陸英國
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transcript.whisperx[4681].text 透過保留查扣沒收的
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transcript.whisperx[4682].text 虛擬資產來建立這個部位
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transcript.whisperx[4683].text 盧森堡則是用主權
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transcript.whisperx[4684].text 基金來投入比特幣的交易所
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transcript.whisperx[4685].text 烏克蘭更不用講
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transcript.whisperx[4686].text 是接曬比特幣
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transcript.whisperx[4687].text 作為戰爭的捐款
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transcript.whisperx[4688].text 歐洲西式央行則是持有依賴比特幣價值的股票等等
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transcript.whisperx[4689].text 那完整的結論
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transcript.whisperx[4690].text 有建議台灣我們在一個
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transcript.whisperx[4691].text 所謂的國家論述裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4692].text 多次提到韌性
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transcript.whisperx[4693].text 要擁有韌性我們也要
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transcript.whisperx[4694].text 有創新的精神和勇氣
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transcript.whisperx[4695].text 早期的去思考
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transcript.whisperx[4696].text 像比特幣作為其中一種選項的可能性
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transcript.whisperx[4697].text 不過既然央行
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transcript.whisperx[4698].text 有點曾經會
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transcript.whisperx[4699].text 提到過比特幣的
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transcript.whisperx[4700].text 這個價格波動等等
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transcript.whisperx[4701].text 暫時我相信可能沒有
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transcript.whisperx[4702].text 這個立場有改變嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4703].text 你就說是比特幣的價格波動
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transcript.whisperx[4705].text 央行的態度有沒有轉變
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transcript.whisperx[4706].text 到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[4707].text 我們還是沒有轉變
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transcript.whisperx[4709].text 我想已經很棒了
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transcript.whisperx[4710].text 持續在研議
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transcript.whisperx[4711].text 我想要提供一個想法給總裁參考
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transcript.whisperx[4713].text 流動性比較方便流動
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transcript.whisperx[4714].text 速度也快
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transcript.whisperx[4715].text 我們能不能考慮假設沒有比特幣戰略儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4716].text 我們有沒有可能考慮
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transcript.whisperx[4717].text 穩定幣的儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4718].text 就是把我們的外匯
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transcript.whisperx[4719].text 或者我們的某一些儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4720].text 部分小額的
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transcript.whisperx[4721].text 轉為穩定幣的方式
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transcript.whisperx[4722].text 來儲存
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transcript.whisperx[4723].text 去年穩定幣的總交易量高達
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transcript.whisperx[4724].text 46兆美元流通性也非常的
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transcript.whisperx[4725].text 健康總裁有沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[4726].text 考慮看看我們的外匯
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transcript.whisperx[4727].text 現在可能是以美債或者是
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transcript.whisperx[4728].text 以這個其他的形式
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transcript.whisperx[4729].text 來存放在極端狀況
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transcript.whisperx[4730].text 發生的時候可能會有流動性的問題
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transcript.whisperx[4732].text 比特幣在做這個
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transcript.whisperx[4733].text 防衛的這些採購
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transcript.whisperx[4734].text 總裁能不能參考一下
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transcript.whisperx[4735].text 這個概念穩定幣的儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4736].text 是啦 我想這個議題
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transcript.whisperx[4737].text 都是一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[4738].text 比特幣也好或是穩定幣也好
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transcript.whisperx[4740].text 一併考量但是就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4741].text 我們的決定是怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[4742].text 以目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[4743].text 到目前為止我還是要跟委員講
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transcript.whisperx[4744].text 就是說穩定幣跟比特幣
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transcript.whisperx[4745].text 作為戰略儲備
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transcript.whisperx[4746].text 在我們外匯存底裡面的
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transcript.whisperx[4747].text 一小部分
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transcript.whisperx[4748].text 這個到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[4749].text 我們的態度都還沒有改變
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transcript.whisperx[4750].text 但是呢時空會改變
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transcript.whisperx[4751].text 時空會改變的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4753].text 也必須要做某些的調整
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transcript.whisperx[4754].text 不過這個我也不能就說
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transcript.whisperx[4755].text 我們以後就是一定會這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[4756].text 這個總裁我想
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transcript.whisperx[4757].text 大破大利的角色希望您
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transcript.whisperx[4758].text 可以來承擔
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transcript.whisperx[4759].text 因為您剛剛也提了一小部分
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transcript.whisperx[4760].text 因為我們也要分散風險
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transcript.whisperx[4761].text 目前我們看到穩定幣或RWA
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transcript.whisperx[4762].text 在美國已經合法化了
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transcript.whisperx[4763].text 未來我們持有的美債
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transcript.whisperx[4764].text 也說不定可以有一部分
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transcript.whisperx[4766].text 極端狀況發生的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4767].text 我們要來交換能源
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transcript.whisperx[4768].text 我們要來交換這些武器
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transcript.whisperx[4769].text 相對的有可能會更加的方便
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transcript.whisperx[4770].text 來降低我們的外匯
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transcript.whisperx[4772].text 那我想接著
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transcript.whisperx[4773].text 想要跟你討論一下近日在美國
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transcript.whisperx[4774].text 這個穩定幣的議題就非常
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transcript.whisperx[4775].text 熱門啦
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transcript.whisperx[4777].text 那目前對穩定幣的發行人
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transcript.whisperx[4778].text 不得向用戶支付利息
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transcript.whisperx[4779].text 這個我們都理解
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transcript.whisperx[4780].text 但是像平台商交換商
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transcript.whisperx[4781].text 這樣的二級市場並沒有明確
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transcript.whisperx[4782].text 規範
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transcript.whisperx[4784].text 在美國已經退一步了
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transcript.whisperx[4785].text 說僅禁止魚兒型的
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transcript.whisperx[4786].text 收益對於有
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transcript.whisperx[4787].text 行為的獎勵則是維持開放的
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transcript.whisperx[4788].text 也就是你有主動性
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transcript.whisperx[4789].text 的部分就可以有第三方
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transcript.whisperx[4790].text 去提供利息
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transcript.whisperx[4791].text 我們VASP專法裡面的穩定幣
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transcript.whisperx[4792].text 的篇章不管是穩定幣
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transcript.whisperx[4793].text 發行運用廢紙金管會都要
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transcript.whisperx[4794].text 洽商央行的意見想請問
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transcript.whisperx[4795].text 一下央行對於非
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transcript.whisperx[4796].text 發行商提供穩定幣
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transcript.whisperx[4797].text 的存放利息主動型的
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transcript.whisperx[4798].text 或者被動型的央行
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transcript.whisperx[4799].text 的態度是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4801].text 在原理當中
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transcript.whisperx[4802].text 那這個金管會會跟我們
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transcript.whisperx[4803].text 討論至於就是說我們態度
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transcript.whisperx[4805].text 也不便在這邊講的很細節
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transcript.whisperx[4806].text 基本上我們
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transcript.whisperx[4807].text 彼此會互相討論
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transcript.whisperx[4808].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[4809].text 彼此尊重專業也尊重
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transcript.whisperx[4812].text 好不好那我們就一起
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transcript.whisperx[4814].text 謝謝各位下一位諮詢委員
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transcript.whisperx[4815].text 請洪玉祥委員
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transcript.whisperx[4816].text 諮詢
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transcript.whisperx[4817].text 好謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4818].text 我請這個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4819].text 請周威央楊總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4820].text 洪委員早
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transcript.whisperx[4821].text 好總裁早
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transcript.whisperx[4822].text 我是把這個
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transcript.whisperx[4823].text 央行的業務報告
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transcript.whisperx[4824].text 整個看完
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transcript.whisperx[4825].text 那我想在
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transcript.whisperx[4826].text 這個第14月來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[4827].text 也就根據央行的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4828].text 報告我們去年的
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transcript.whisperx[4830].text 今年大概是預估1.8%
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transcript.whisperx[4831].text 但是我們在
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transcript.whisperx[4832].text 同一份報告也承認
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transcript.whisperx[4833].text 整個去年拉高這個
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transcript.whisperx[4834].text 這個價格的主因
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transcript.whisperx[4835].text 就是外食跟房租
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transcript.whisperx[4836].text 他其實動線了我們CPI上升
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transcript.whisperx[4837].text 大概1.35個百分點
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transcript.whisperx[4838].text 也就是大概
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transcript.whisperx[4839].text 佔比是81%
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transcript.whisperx[4841].text 核心的CPI大概也是1.93
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transcript.whisperx[4842].text 最有感的還是
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transcript.whisperx[4843].text 外食房租大概還有最近的
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transcript.whisperx[4845].text 可能我們還有交通費
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transcript.whisperx[4846].text 這些東西
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transcript.whisperx[4847].text 所以我們在看的是說
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transcript.whisperx[4848].text 整個央行
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transcript.whisperx[4849].text 會不會是說在這整個
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transcript.whisperx[4850].text 我們這個通膨的溫和
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transcript.whisperx[4851].text 比較是存在報表上
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transcript.whisperx[4852].text 就是人民的生活的感受
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transcript.whisperx[4853].text 是不是因為我們可能會低估
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transcript.whisperx[4854].text 所以基本上來講
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transcript.whisperx[4855].text 就是說想請教
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transcript.whisperx[4856].text 這個總裁
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transcript.whisperx[4857].text 從我們小老百姓
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transcript.whisperx[4858].text 到底這樣子的央行的政策
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transcript.whisperx[4859].text 有沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[4860].text 去減輕我們一些的痛點
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transcript.whisperx[4861].text 委員問得也很好
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transcript.whisperx[4862].text 這個就是說一般的
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transcript.whisperx[4863].text 一般的百姓
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transcript.whisperx[4864].text 跟我們
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transcript.whisperx[4865].text 中央銀行的這個數據
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transcript.whisperx[4866].text 來對比的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4867].text 總覺得好像是有落差
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transcript.whisperx[4870].text 這個就跟
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transcript.whisperx[4871].text 我們的民生的問題
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transcript.whisperx[4872].text 很有關聯
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transcript.whisperx[4873].text 而且都漲得比較高
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transcript.whisperx[4875].text 沒有那麼高
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transcript.whisperx[4877].text 都是按照整體的
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transcript.whisperx[4878].text 來做決定
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transcript.whisperx[4879].text 那我想第一個
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transcript.whisperx[4880].text 我必須要說明的是說
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transcript.whisperx[4881].text 全球的中央銀行基本上
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transcript.whisperx[4882].text 都是以整體的通膨來看的
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transcript.whisperx[4883].text 他沒辦法針對某一項某一項
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transcript.whisperx[4884].text 跟民眾比較有關係的
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transcript.whisperx[4885].text 第一個我們看
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transcript.whisperx[4886].text 就是說主席總處
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transcript.whisperx[4887].text 他也有發佈
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transcript.whisperx[4888].text 除了就總部
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transcript.whisperx[4889].text 全部的CPI的
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transcript.whisperx[4891].text 他也編列了
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transcript.whisperx[4892].text 這個戶友的
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transcript.whisperx[4893].text 次戶友的
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transcript.whisperx[4894].text 還有就是說比較
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transcript.whisperx[4895].text 所得比較低的
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transcript.whisperx[4897].text 他也是會反映出
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transcript.whisperx[4900].text 還是總體的控制
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transcript.whisperx[4901].text 但是說如果
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transcript.whisperx[4903].text 也可以影響一些部會
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transcript.whisperx[4904].text 會商一下
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transcript.whisperx[4905].text 我覺得苦民所苦還是很重要
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transcript.whisperx[4906].text 但我們每次調查民眾都覺得
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transcript.whisperx[4907].text 聽不懂
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transcript.whisperx[4908].text 據說另外
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transcript.whisperx[4909].text 在央行的報告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4910].text 國際的油價預測從每桶
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transcript.whisperx[4911].text 上升到85
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transcript.whisperx[4912].text 可能還會再增加
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transcript.whisperx[4913].text 這樣子的話大概就是
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transcript.whisperx[4914].text 拉高了我們CPI大概0.52個百分比
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transcript.whisperx[4915].text 但是我們靠著
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transcript.whisperx[4916].text 比如說台電中油這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[4917].text 吸收專案環長甚至減稅
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transcript.whisperx[4918].text 當然我們把它壓到影響
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transcript.whisperx[4919].text 大概0.17個百分比
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transcript.whisperx[4920].text 但是你會看出來這個是
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transcript.whisperx[4921].text 現在的溫和大概是靠政府的
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transcript.whisperx[4924].text 那我的意思是說如果我們油價
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transcript.whisperx[4925].text 繼續攀漲這個雙環漲的機制
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transcript.whisperx[4926].text 我不曉得還能撐多久
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transcript.whisperx[4927].text 因為最終你這電價調整
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transcript.whisperx[4929].text 就還是要
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transcript.whisperx[4930].text 回到我們人民的身上
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transcript.whisperx[4931].text 不可能納稅
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transcript.whisperx[4932].text 所以我想說看這個
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transcript.whisperx[4933].text 央行總裁有沒有什麼樣的高見
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transcript.whisperx[4934].text 是 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4935].text 基本上
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transcript.whisperx[4936].text 政府用這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[4937].text 所以我們 我跟委員
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transcript.whisperx[4938].text 在我回答這個議題之前
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transcript.whisperx[4939].text 我先跟委員報告一下
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transcript.whisperx[4940].text 就是說在二烏戰爭的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4941].text 台灣
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transcript.whisperx[4943].text 也用這樣的一個機制
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transcript.whisperx[4944].text 來控制我們的通膨
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transcript.whisperx[4945].text 對 有沒有新招
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transcript.whisperx[4946].text 對 這個也不是新招
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transcript.whisperx[4947].text 以前我們的穩定的物價
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transcript.whisperx[4948].text 就是說供給面的問題
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transcript.whisperx[4949].text 就必須要用供給面的
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transcript.whisperx[4952].text 是要抑制需求
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transcript.whisperx[4953].text 反而是不好的
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transcript.whisperx[4954].text 所以應該是政府來做這件事
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transcript.whisperx[4955].text 那我們就用二烏戰爭的
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transcript.whisperx[4956].text 這個例子做
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transcript.whisperx[4957].text 來說明 當時
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transcript.whisperx[4958].text 用這樣的來
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transcript.whisperx[4959].text 政府用
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transcript.whisperx[4960].text 款帳的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4961].text 機制的時候 你看看
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transcript.whisperx[4962].text 2020年到2025年
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transcript.whisperx[4965].text 好 沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[4970].text 還是必要的
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transcript.whisperx[4972].text 小問題 就是因為我們產業
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transcript.whisperx[4973].text 發展的事 因為我也來自資訊產業
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transcript.whisperx[4975].text 大概8.68 反正就是我們
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transcript.whisperx[4976].text AI資訊辦的老體 一個人的50
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transcript.whisperx[4978].text 我們其他服務業的薪資的
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transcript.whisperx[4979].text 增長是差2.81
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transcript.whisperx[4986].text 前幾年來講的話
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transcript.whisperx[4992].text 百分之七十幾的民眾是
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transcript.whisperx[4994].text 不好是相對的啦
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transcript.whisperx[5002].text 見解 最後這個我就請
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transcript.whisperx[5003].text 書面報告 就是請這個
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transcript.whisperx[5004].text 財經公司的 就是去年
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transcript.whisperx[5005].text 一月的質詢 這一個過濾費
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transcript.whisperx[5006].text 15塊 我想要知道
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transcript.whisperx[5007].text 進度如何 再跟我提供書面報告
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transcript.whisperx[5008].text 好不好 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5009].text 謝謝 謝謝 謝謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[5011].text 林楚一委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[5012].text 林楚一委員 不在
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transcript.whisperx[5015].text 請林倩琪委員
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transcript.whisperx[5021].text 請葉元之委員
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transcript.whisperx[5023].text 本次會議
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transcript.whisperx[5024].text 作如下決定
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transcript.whisperx[5025].text 今日發言登記委員軍旅
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transcript.whisperx[5026].text 詢答完畢 本次會議
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transcript.whisperx[5027].text 作如下決定 一 報告
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transcript.whisperx[5028].text 舉行完畢 二 委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[5030].text 資訊 請中央銀行
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transcript.whisperx[5031].text 於週內以書面答覆
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transcript.whisperx[5032].text 令委員令要求
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transcript.whisperx[5033].text 期限者從其所訂
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transcript.whisperx[5034].text 本次會議議程已進行完畢
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transcript.whisperx[5035].text 黨友不在場委員補庭書面
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transcript.whisperx[5036].text 質詢一併列入記錄 刊登公報
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transcript.whisperx[5037].text 並請醫事人員協助處理
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