| IVOD_ID |
17295 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17295 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-27-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期程序委員會第4次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
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| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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程序委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期程序委員會第4次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-24T11:31:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-24T12:21:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:49:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-03-24T12:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期程序委員會第4次會議（事由：審定本院第11屆第5會期第5次會議議事日程及人民請願案） |
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好,報告委員會現在移除法定人數,現在開始開會請宣讀上次會議事錄 |
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議法院程序委員會第十一屆第五會期第三次會議 |
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第四次會議議事成為審定主席宣告本次院會議事審查案內容朝野黨團無法達成共識原例將本次議審查案提報院會處理而請願案件一涵送本院相關委員審查共一案二依請願法第四條之規定系屬應提起訴訟之事項未便受理涵附情人共一案三依立法院執行新法第六十五條規定涵轉全職機關處理淨附並附之情人共三案宣讀完畢 |
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針對議事錄請問有無錯誤或遺漏之處有意義現有沈博洋委員等針對上次會議議事錄有意義提書面請議事人員宣讀書面提議本院第十一屆第五會期第三次會議議事錄因翁曉琳主席未徵詢在場委員之表決意願盡致作成宣告原提案不予確認提案人沈博洋宣讀完畢 |
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好那既然有異議那我們就現在就那請問這個針對沈博洋委員所提的這個這個議案有無異議有異議那現在我們就就針對沈博洋委員的提議來進行處理請清點在場人數 |
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好 那贊成沈博洋委員提案的請舉手好 請放下反對沈博洋委員提案的請舉手好 報告表決結果 在場17人 贊成者8人 反對者9人 |
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我們贊成則少數那這個決議不通過那我們第三次會議的議事錄就確定那本席在這裡是表示非常非常的遺憾從過去到現在從來沒有從來沒有過這個主席在未經委員會同意的情況下進行全部 |
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做進行宣告這個將議程送院會的從來沒有過從來沒有過在這一次成績從來從過去到現在所有有異議大家送院會全部都是經過委員會大家同意的情況下才送院會在上個禮拜我們以今天來講今天表決的人數民進黨還是輸但是我們一樣照程序來 |
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並不會說從來沒有過過說這樣子踐踏程序委員會的程序正義我們程序委員會就是在立法院的程序的處理結果我們自己程序委員會踐踏程序委員會的程序這真是前所未聞本席在這裡雖然我們表決結果是確定議事錄但是本席在這裡表示最大的遺憾那接下來請宣讀報告事項及執行事項 |
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立法院第十一屆第五會期第五次會議一事成草案時間中華民國一百一十五年三月二十七日星期五三月三十一日星期二上午九時至下午六時地點兵役場報告事項一宣讀本院第十一屆第五會期第四次會議議事錄二至四委員張志倫等擬句保全業法交內政委員會審查性別平等工作法勞工保險條例交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查五至八委員廖先祥等擬句所得稅法交財政委員會審查停車場法傳播法 |
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交交通委員會審查就業保險法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查9至12委員王宏威等理據專科學校法大學法高級中等教育法交教育學文化委員會審查國民年金法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查13至14委員邱振軍等理據發展觀光條例交交通委員會審查少年事件處理法交司法及法治委員會審查15至17委員鍾嘉斌等理據詐欺犯罪危害防止條例交內政委員會審查發展觀光條例交交通委員會審查勞工退休金條例交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
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18 委員林淑芬的擬區就業保險法交社會福利及文化環境委員會審查19 委員林思明的擬區貪污治罪條例交司法及法治委員會審查20 委員羅志強的擬區國民體育法交交易局文化委員會審查21 委員林楚瑩的擬區台灣地區與大澳地區人民關係條例交內政委員會審查22 委員林昂法遺產及贈餘稅法交財政委員會審查23 委員賴瑞榮的擬區香港法發展觀光條例交交通委員會審查 |
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就業保險法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 六十八至三十二文莊惠雄等女居公民投票法交內政委員會審查跟中騷擾防治法交內政社會福利及衛生環境兩委員會審查國民體育法交交易全化委員會審查海洋委員會海訊書組織法 |
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交司法及法治內政兩委員會審查律師法交司法及法治委員會審查33至42委員審法會等你具發展觀光條例交交通委員會審查行事訴訟法之恐防之法交司法及法治委員會審查海洋委員會海軍署組織法交司法及法治內政兩委員會審查陸海空軍刑法交司法及法治外交局國防兩委員會審查衛生福利部組織法衛生福利部兒少及家庭知識署組織法國家醫療科技評估中心設置條例衛生福利部長期照顧及社會發展署組織法衛生福利部中央健康保險署組織法 |
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交司法及法治社會福利及溫暖環境兩委員會審查四十三委員陳超明等你據公正法交司法及法治委員會審查四十四至四十八委員林一景等你據原住民族傳統智慧創作保護條例交內政委員會審查中華民國新法刑事訴訟法交司法及法治委員會審查 |
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有通緝少年性剝缺防治條例交涉社會福利及溫暖環境 司法及法治兩委員會審查 四十九委員馬文君等一句國民年金法交社會福利及溫暖環境委員會審查 五十至一四九內政部外交部經濟部農業部金管會衛福部交通部司法院財政部教育部陸委會科委會海委會黨產會國防部國科會文化部故宮抒發部通傳會 |
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總統府運動部中研院函送書面資料交相關委員會150行政院函有關花蓮馬太安溪驗測湖霸體安全性等事項由行政院院長向本院提出專案報告檢送專案報告交黨團協商會議處理151至173內政部經濟部國科會運動部交通部原名會函為預算決議事項交相關委員會處理174至175經濟委員會函位於年度預算執行期間及決算法審議極限警察照案 |
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176-177 社會福利及溫暖環境司法及法治委員會函 未遇行政命令審查及現行查照案國民黨黨團體整理醫務委員黃建豪等擬居 海關進口稅責交財政委員會審查24 委員翁小林等擬居 有限廣播電視法 廣播電視法交交通委員會審查 地政法交司法及法治委員會審查5-6 委員盧仙義等擬居兒童及少年福利權益保障法 |
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就業保險法交社會福利及溫暖環境委員會審查78委員鄭天才等你去就業保險法國民年金法交社會社會福利及溫暖環境委員會審查9委員江家俊等你去幼兒教育及照顧法交教育及文化社會福利及溫暖環境兩委員會審查10至15委員賴石寶等你廢止行政院農業委員會組織條例行政院農業委員會水族保護局組織法行政院農業委員會農業金融局組織條例 |
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行政院農業委員會農養署組織條例行政院農業委員會漁業署組織條例交到司法提法至經濟兩委員會審查老年農民福利經驗暫行條例交到社會福利及衛生環境經濟內眷三委員會審查16至19委員林健齊等已據中華民國刑法少年事件處理法犯罪被害人權益保障法 |
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交司法及法治委員會審查性別平等工作法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查60至21委員羅志祥等禮具教師法交教育捐款委員會審查就業保險法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查60至22委員吳宗憲等禮具就業保險法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查63至26委員羅廷偉等禮具貨物稅條例交財政委員會審查優惠教育及照顧法交教育捐款 |
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社會福利及衛生環境兩委員會審查律師法交司法的法治委員會審查海洋委員會海巡署處置法交司法的法治內政兩委員會審查二十七委員廖偉祥的拟據律師法交司法的法治委員會審查二十八國民黨黨團拟據國民年金法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查二十九至三十三委員徐巧欣的拟據教師法邊緣地區學校教育發展條例交教育簡化委員會審查少年事件處理法交司法的法治委員會審查國民年金法兒童及少年福利權益保障法 |
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交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查民進黨黨團體陣列三十四至三十六委員林俊憲等你居中華民國新法中華民國新法施行法交司法及法治委員會審查兒童及少年性剝削防治條例交社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治兩委員會審查三十七至三十九委員王振旭等你居所得稅法交財政委員會審查國民年金法性別平等工作法交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 |
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40至41委員李坤誠等禮具發展觀光條例交交通委員會審查滋控防治法交涉法律法治委員會審查42至45委員王美惠等禮具中華民國新法中華民國新法施行法交涉法律法治委員會審查海洋委員會海巡署組織法交涉法律法律法律內政兩委員會審查就業保險法交社會福利及溫度環境委員會審查 |
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2530.209 |
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46至48委員黃潔等擬拒森林法教經濟委員會審查犯罪被害人權以保障法教司法及法治委員會審查國民經濟法教社會福利及溫柔環境委員會審查49委員王美輝等擬拒社會秩序維護法教內政委員會審查50委員林一錦等擬拒立法委員行為法教司法及法治委員會審查51委員沈伯陽等擬拒 |
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2551.648 |
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香港澳門關係條例交內政委員會審查五十二委員李博義等離去立法院議事規則交涉法庭法治委員會審查五十三至六十七委員郭玉琴等委員林月琴等委員郭國文等委員沈伯陽等委員黃潔等委員江紅路等委員江雅玲等委員李博義等委員吳秉瑞等委員陳培宇等委員蔡業宇等委員林一金等分別離去台南地區大陸地區人民關係條例交內政委員會審查 |
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六十八至六十九行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行政行 |
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2595.041 |
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公路法教交通委員會審查廢紙內建部營建署主治條例廢紙內建部醫政署主治法教司法律法治內政兩委員會審查教師待遇條例廢紙教育部體育署主治法教司法律法治教育基本法兩委員會審查勞動基準法兒童及少年福利權益保障法社會救助法教社會福利及溫暖環境委員會審查只需事項對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢宣讀完畢 |
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2599.379 |
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2616.849 |
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好 報告委員會 議程草案包括事項第三案跟第四案提案委員張志倫委員來函撤回 我們予以刪除現在請登記委員發言首先請登記第一位請省委員柏楊發言那我們在省委員發言完畢的時候 截止發言登記 |
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案由針對第十一屆第五會期第五次會議議程報告事項質詢事項及對行政院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢建請照議事日程草案及增列報告事項通過並授權議事處調整議案順序提案人民主進步黨立法院黨團沈伯陽那這邊我還有一點時間所以我還是要再說一次 |
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就是像剛剛關於議事錄的確定是在確定什麼是在確定到底上禮拜翁小林趙薇直接把會議解散這樣的一個行為是否予以確認當場國民黨就表示了異議那表示了異議之後大家可以看到那就是進入表決進入表決之後我們輸了那結果也就是議事錄確定 |
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但問題是我們不會去說我們要散會我們會尊重這樣的一個民主程序但上個禮拜不是如此啊上個禮拜國民黨少了一個人少了一個人之後呢表決可能會輸結果就直接散會連表決都不表決從來沒有過在這邊都已經有委員說聲明有意義了結果最後竟然決定是直接散會完全不給我們發言的權利也不給我們表決的權利 |
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說真的 程序委員會沒收表決這個是前所未見的事情這怎麼會是一個民主機制容許在我們民意的最高殿堂發生沒收表決這樣的事情我們過往的程序委員會就已經夠扯了之前都在沒收什麼都在沒收委員的提案權 |
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大家可以看到剛剛議事處唸了那麼多的法案我們在座也很多委員啊包含國民黨的委員也提了很多法案啊我說真的有時候法案寫得非常糟糕欸裡面什麼比例原則也都沒有對錯字一堆修法理由不知道在寫什麼法案寫得很爛但寫得再怎麼爛就進入到委員會給大家討論嘛 |
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這是你們的提案權啊怎麼可能一個立法委員在立法院連提案權都沒有而且我想到一個法案我認為公托現在應該要改變然後呢我提了一個法案之後呢結果就在這個程序委員會直接跟你講對不起我不想給你提法案是可以沒收立法委員的提案權嗎 |
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所以書到底在這一邊都是在做政治操作幾個簡簡單單的法案立法委員附中必須要做一定的申報沒有跟你說不能夠去中國你愛去你還是可以去問題是你必須要透明這不是一個最基本的民主問責機制嗎不管你同意還是不同意這樣的案子不就應該進入到委員會討論嗎到現在800多次了一次都沒有去尊重立法委員的提案權 |
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我們再說前陣子每一個都上來說要擋軍購羅志強在這邊不知道講了多少次說這個軍購條例死都是不審為什麼因為說總統就沒有來做國情報告沒有在尊重軍人死都不審請問這些條件現在改變了嗎如果按照你們每次在那邊發言的條件沒有任何改變為什麼明天開始要審軍購條例了 |
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所以完全就是你自己的立場跟你的政治的態度在這邊決定到底你要審不審一個案子嘛去年11月到現在軍購擺在這邊多久了總預算更久嘛你們講的那些條件都還在啊為什麼明天開始突然可以討論軍購了為什麼 |
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不合理嘛所以完全就是你們自己的自由心陣你們自己的自益在這邊決定要什麼案子可以討論什麼案子不能夠討論那請問那麼多的民意代表人民一票一票選出來的請問他們的提案不算提案嗎他們的案子不算案子嗎這些人對你們來講不是台灣人嗎過分嘛 |
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所以到現在為止沒收提案權這兩年已經夠扯了結果到上個禮拜連表決權都要給你沒收你表決最後你會贏耶那一天表決完之後就算你們少一個人禮拜五進去院會你們表決一下退回程序委員會就結束啦 |
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土耳其委員會也不用付理由啊你們還是可以達到你們的目的啊你們明明可以達到你們的目的喔你們可以政治操作喔你們還是可以持續檔案喔可以持續沒收提案權喔結果竟然選用一個最噁心最噁爛的方式直接告訴你說我連表決都不給你表決這成何體統啊這根本就不是一個民意代表應該做的事情 |
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所以我這邊再次的嚴厲譴責啦我們剛剛表決雖然輸了但我還是要講我們表決再怎麼輸我們要讓我們的聲音給人民聽到我們要讓人民知道你們到底有多ABA表決 提案 什麼都沒收過去我們執政八年從來沒有在程序委員會檔案這是民進黨的態度 |
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我們就算再怎麼不贊成你們提的案子那都是進入委員會討論委員會就是立法院的中心結果呢委員會時常不出席出席立敵質詢立敵法案不討論該審預算不審預算法案就被你擋在這一邊這個國家到底要怎麼運作所以呢我利用這樣的一個時間稍微再把剛剛前面的事情梳理一次謝謝主席 |
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好 接下來我們請登記第二位 請林委員配詳發言按由本次院會議事日程 建請將議程草案送院會處理提案人 中國國民黨立法院黨團 |
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好 登記委員已經發言完畢 現在我們進行處理了先提案先處理請問對沈伯陽委員的提案有異議好 有異議的話我們要進行表決那清點在場人數好 贊成沈伯陽委員提案的請舉手好 反對者請舉手 |
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好 表決結果 在場17人 贊成者8人 反對者9人 贊成者少數不通過那接下來我們繼續處理林沛翔委員的提案請問針對林委員的提案有無異議有好 有異議我們進行表決 請清點在場人數好 贊成林沛翔委員提案的請舉手 |
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好 反對林沛翔委員提案的請舉手好 表決結果在場17人 贊成者9人 反對者8人 贊成者多數通過那我們本市議程草案就提報院會處理好 接下來請宣讀人民請願案 |
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人民全案一韓送本院相關委員會審查供應案二伊地法案簡行法第六十五條規定韓轉機關處理者共五案宣讀完畢好請問有無異議沒有異議通過請問有無臨時動議沒有的話我們本次會議進行到此現在散會謝謝大家 |
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