| IVOD_ID |
17286 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17286 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-19T08:35:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-19T13:09:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
04:34:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/7a505bc1fba11f2d8ecfe646390efd90f972e27c5d9f23dd157d0edf07c12ea683bf45374b045af15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
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請醫事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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時間中華民國115年3月18日 |
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一 宣讀上次會議議事錄決定確定 |
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1652.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
決定一登記質詢在場委員均已發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1652.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1653.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
報告及詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1654 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
二 委員陳永康蔡村仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1658.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
所提書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1658.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1661.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
三 委員所提書面及口頭質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1661.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
未及答覆或要求提供之資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1665.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
請求委員會與二周內以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1665.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
本會全體委員並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1670.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
委員令指定期限者從其鎖定 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1670.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1675.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1678.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
請問在場委員對於上次會議意識錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1678.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1681.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
有遺漏或錯誤需要更正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1681.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
好 沒有 我們意識錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1686.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
請意識人員宣讀報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1686.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1687.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
報告事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1687.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1688.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
邀請外交部部長林佳龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1688.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1690.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
報告業務概況並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1690.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1691.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1695.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們現在介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1701.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
以及與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1701.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
首先介紹陳永康陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1704.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
羅美琳羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1708.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
以及今天出席的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1713.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
外交部部長林佳龍林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1714.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1718.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
亞東太平洋司林昭宏林司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1719.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1722.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
亞西吉非洲司嚴嘉良嚴司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1723.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1726.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
歐洲司李秀瑤李副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1727.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
拉美吉加勒比海斯韓志正韓司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1732.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1735.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
北美司焦國佑焦副司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1739.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
條約法律司李憲章理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1740.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
國際組織司孫檢員孫司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1750.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
國際合作及經濟事務司葉志成葉司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1750.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1754.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
國際傳播司張秀蓁張司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1755.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
研究設計會科量 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1759.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1760.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
科量銳 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1762.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1763.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1764.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
李彬處 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1766.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1767.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
貴志雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1769.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
貴公使 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1769.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1772.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
秘書處陳錦麟陳處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1773.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
人事處呂士一呂處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1777.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1780.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
政風處孔縣台孔處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1781.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1783.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
主計處李佩華李處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1784.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1788.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
資訊及電務處張家政張處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1789.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
公眾外交協調會蕭光偉蕭執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1793.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
公眾外交協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1796.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
非政府組織國際事務會 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1801.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
江政委江執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
台日關係協會林育慧林副秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1809.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1813.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
台灣美國事務委員會孫啟仁孫秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1814.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1816.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
外交及國際事務學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1816.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1818.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
黎茜儀黎副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1820.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1822.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
臨時事務局鄭政勇鄭局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1824.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1827.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
財團法人國際合作發展基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1827.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1829.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
史立軍史副秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1830.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
財團法人臺灣民主基金會廖達琪廖執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1835.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
財團法人太平洋經濟合作理事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1841 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
中華民國委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1841 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1842.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
許俊斌許秘書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1847.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1850.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
本日會議邀請外交部部長林佳龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1850.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1852.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
報告業務概況並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1852.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1854.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
現在請林部長上台報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1863.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1866.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
主席各位委員各位女士先生大家早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1867.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1869.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
感謝貴委員會邀請本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1869.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
前來進行外交業務報告並被質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1876.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
書面報告請參閱以下就重點說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1877.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1881.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
自我上任669天以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1881.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1884.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
也見證了國際局勢的動盪 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1884.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1887.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
中國不斷打壓臺灣國際空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1887.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1890.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
我國面臨嚴峻的外部挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1890.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1893.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
但在國人和政府的努力之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1893.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1896.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
我們仍然繳出了一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1897.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1899.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
這上面寫亮眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1899.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1901.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
及格的外交成績單 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1902.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1905.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
首先我要感謝大院各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1905.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1907.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
對外交工作的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1907.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1910.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
並協助推動國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1911.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1915.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
近兩年來大院委員約有300人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1915.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1919.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
130多團赴美日等30多國 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1919.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1920.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
拼外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1920.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1924.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
包括去年9月韓院長率團訪問日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1924.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1927.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
11月江副院長率團訪問巴拉圭 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1927.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1929.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
美國等 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1929.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1932.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
協助拓展臺灣的外交空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1932.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1933.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
令人欽佩 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1934.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1936.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
本年也率領外交同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1936.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
兢兢業業全力推動各項工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1939.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
迄今總和外交已經取得了一些成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1943.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1944.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
其中包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1945.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
我們有效的固邦、龍邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1949.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1951.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
除了維繫12個邦交 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1952.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1953.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
外國的關係外 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1953.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1955.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
我們也正逐步落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1955.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1957.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
龍邦八大旗艦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1957.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1961.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
而援手外交的成果也顯著 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1961.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1963.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
外交部也在積極規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1963.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1965.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
總統適當時機再度出訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1966.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
我們也讓世界走進臺灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1970.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
讓臺灣走向世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1971.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
自賴總統上任以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1977.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
外交部已經接待超過730個訪團 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1977.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
7200位外賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
也見證國際挺臺力量升溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1982.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1985.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
除了賴總統訪問太平洋三友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1985.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
蕭副總統順利出訪歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1988.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1991.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
本人也已經走訪超過20個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1991.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1993.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
足跡遍及六大洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1993.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1995.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
也深刻感受到國際友人 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1995.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1997.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
對臺灣的支持和溫暖 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2001.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
我們也讓世界關注臺海安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2001.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
支持臺灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2005.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
近兩年來有高達122則 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2005.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2008.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
來自友邦和友盟國家的聲明 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2008.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2011.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
肯定臺海和平穩定的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2011.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2014.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
美國去年12月公布的國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2014.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2016.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
也強調臺灣的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2017.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2019.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
另外本部每年舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2019.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
玉山論壇和凱達格蘭論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
兩大主場國際論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
也增進國際對臺海安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
及臺灣重要性的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
成效顯著 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
我們尤其重視外交政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
要符合多數民意的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2036.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
讓國能能夠有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2036.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2037.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
而近兩年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2037.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2040.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
本部委外所做的四次民意調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2041.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2043.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
也都顯示有過半數 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2043.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
受訪國人對政府外交整體的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2047.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2047.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
超過七成支持總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
超過六成支持農邦計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2055.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
這對外交同仁是很大的鼓舞 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2055.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2056.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
此外 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2056.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2057.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
本部也持續精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2057.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2059.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
檢證變明的服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2059.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2060.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
近兩年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2060.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2063.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
全球外館處理超過1萬3千件 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2063.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2065.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
旅外國人急難救助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2065.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2068.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
幫助超過1萬8千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2068.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2069.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
但是去年一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2069.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2072.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
就發行超過230萬本護照 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2072.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我們也鼓勵我國籍的航空公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2076.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
增闢了美國德州 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2078.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2080.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
亞利桑那州 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2080.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2084.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
以及華盛頓特區的直航線 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2085.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
那麼也持續在開拓 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2089.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
歐洲的航點 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2089.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2091.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
包括增加航班 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2091.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2093.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
另外也反映了 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2093.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2097.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
國人的經貿 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2097.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2100.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
還有觀光旅遊的實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2100.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2103.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
在文萊、泰國、菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2103.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2106.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
也提供了我國的免簽的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2106.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2108.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
再展現我們本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2108.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2111.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
檢證變明工作的一些成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2111.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2112.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
眾所周知 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2112.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2115.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
當前我國仍然面臨非常多的外部挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2115.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
本會會持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
本部會會持續的密切關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
相關情勢發展並妥為因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
而這些挑戰主要包括以下幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2128.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
首先是全球地緣衝突加劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2128.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
台灣戰略重要性與日據增 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2132.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2134.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
烏二戰爭已經超過四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2134.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
中東南海等地的情勢動盪 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2140.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
尤其上個月底中東地區再度爆發戰事 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2140.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
本部和相關外館這二十多天來 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2146.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
都全力應變確保國人安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2146.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2148.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
包括已經協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2148.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2151.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
兩千四百位以上的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2151.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
平安反抵台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2154.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
其次呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2154.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2156.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
台灣的經貿充滿變數 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2156.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2158.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
全球的經貿充滿變數 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2158.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2160.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
世界也更需要台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2160.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2162.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
面對全球政經變局 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2162.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2164.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
台灣會繼續發揮在經貿 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2164.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2166.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
科技等領域的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2166.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
加深與美國和其他理念相近夥伴的合作及鏈結 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
讓台灣成為最值得信賴的夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2176.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
也讓世界更需要台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2176.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
另外呢中國始終是我國外部最大的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
那而且呢這個威脅日增 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2185.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
但是維持台海和平穩定已經是國際社會的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2185.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2187.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
中國近來全面推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2187.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2191.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
企圖把民主台灣變成中國台灣的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2191.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2193.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
透過混合戰的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2193.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2195.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
扭曲聯大第2758號決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2195.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
甚至對我國人跨國鎮壓的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2202.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
來加以對我們的施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2202.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2205.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
那對我國以及區域和全球的和平穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2205.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2207.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
都構成重大的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2207.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2208.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
然而台海和平穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2208.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2210.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
攸關全球繁榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2210.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2212.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
已成為國際社會的高度共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2212.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2215.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
外交部會與民主夥伴加強合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2215.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2219.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
密切關注並因應中國在海外的相關動態 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2219.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2221.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
持續捍衛我國國家主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2221.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2223.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
尊嚴與利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2223.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2224.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
那麼今天呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2224.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2226.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
我們的外交政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2226.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2231.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
在總和外交的一個整體的指導之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2231.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2234.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
已經也達成了一些預期的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2234.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2237.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
其中也有一些創新與突破之舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2237.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2239.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
僅簡要說明如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2239.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2242.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
第一 農邦計畫與協作聯隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2242.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2245.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
農邦計畫已經取得許多項的重要成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2245.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2247.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
那請參閱書面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2247.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2249.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
至於在協作聯隊方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2249.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2253.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
除了成立行政院經濟外交工作小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2253.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2255.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
進行經濟外交布局 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2255.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2258.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
外交部目前已經和經濟部等十個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2258.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2260.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
建立雙部 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2261.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2262.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
長的會議機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2262.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2264.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
而整合各部會的支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2264.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2266.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
發揮team of teams |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2266.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2268.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
也就是聯合艦隊的一個力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2268.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2269.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
那再來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2269.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
台美關係穩健增進 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2272.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
台美深化安全夥伴關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2274.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2276.06 |
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如川普總統上任迄今 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2276.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2277.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
已兩度宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2277.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2279.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
對台軍售 |
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2279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
台美也擴大經貿共生夥伴關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
本年雙方已完成簽署台美ART |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
及投資合作備忘錄 |
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2286.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2289.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
那麼美國國會跨黨派持續以訪台 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2289.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2291.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
立法等具體行動挺台 |
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2291.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2294.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
美國也持續支持台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2294.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2295.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
拓展國際參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2295.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2297.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
尤其美方已多次公開反駁 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2297.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
中國對聯大2758決議的錯誤解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
此外台美也在國際合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2305.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
教育交流及地方互動等領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2305.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2306.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
成果豐碩 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2306.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2308.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
各項成果也請參閱書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2308.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2311.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
那麼在第三方面是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2311.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2314.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
台日關係相當的密切跟友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2314.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
日本政府已經多次公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2319.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
重申維持台海和平穩定的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2319.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2323.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
展現高度重視台日友好關係的一貫立場 |
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2323.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2325.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
而日本國會議員若意訪台 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2325.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
高層交流頻繁 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2327.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2329.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
我們因日方的邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2329.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2331.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
也循大阪世博的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2331.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2333.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
參與2027年 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2333.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
明年的這個橫濱園藝博覽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
那麼也請國人拭目以待 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
那麼2025年 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2341.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
台日雙方互訪突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2341.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2343.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
821萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
展現台日深厚的情誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2348.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
那麼第四點是在台歐關係方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2348.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
也屢創新局 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
蕭副總統在就任前後二度訪歐 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
也創我國副元首在歐洲議會演說的首例 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2360.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
陳前副總統以總統特使身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2360.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
二訪教廷 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
展現台販深厚的情誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2364.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2366.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
而本人也適度訪歐 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2371.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
問歐洲國家首度獲邀在 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2371.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2373.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
華沙安全論壇演說 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2373.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2375.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
寫下我國外長與會的心願 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2375.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2379.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
另一方面歐洲政要訪台的交流刷新紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2379.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2382.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
單單去年我們推動台灣文化年 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2382.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2385.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
也太拓了外交的新空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2385.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2388.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
此外台灣與理念相近國家合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2388.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2392.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
人道援助烏克蘭也受到國際友人的讚揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2392.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2396.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
那麼第五方面是總和外交展現新樣貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2396.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
國會今年邁向30週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
組織改革也啟動了轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2401.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2404.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
提升政府發展援助的海外影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2404.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2408.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
而無人機外交小組開拓台灣自主防衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2408.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2410.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
與國際合作的新局 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2410.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2412.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
那麼外交部也推動設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2412.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
實體的台灣INGO中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2415.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2418.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
那麼增強全球社群的鏈結 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2418.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2420.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
我們也開闢了四大領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2420.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2422.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
14個面向的多元外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2422.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2424.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
其中我們以國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2424.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2426.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
突破威權封鎖 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2426.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2428.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
連結民主友盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2428.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
以台灣科技和資安的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2432.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
深化與友方 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2432.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
資安外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2433.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2436.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
那更以青年外交來展現台灣的軟實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2436.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2438.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
擴大台灣實質國際的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2441.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
第六點是因應中國對台法律戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2441.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
那麼經過近兩年的努力推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2447.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
今天已經有13個國家的行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2447.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2450.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
與歐盟以及15個國家的立法部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2450.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2452.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
包括歐洲議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2452.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
那麼和IPAC |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2454.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2456.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
這個跨國的這個中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2456.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
這個政策的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2460.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
這個聯盟 |
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2460.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2463.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
公開駁斥中國錯誤詮釋連大第2758號決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2463.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2466.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
延續中國內政化台灣議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2466.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2468.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
我們也積極拓展國際參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2468.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2470.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
包括透過IPAC |
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2470.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
擴大台灣影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
去年中國作為IPAC |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2476.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
本年中國作為IPAC主辦方 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2476.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2478.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
我們也積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2478.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2480.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2480.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2482.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
那麼不因中國的主辦而改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2482.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2484.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
本年也在各市場合運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2484.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2486.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
創新的論述突破中國的法律戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2486.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2488.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2488.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2490.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
台灣主權屬於台灣人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2490.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2492.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
反制中國對台法律戰的決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2492.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2494.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
那麼展望未來外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2494.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2496.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
將在既有的基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2496.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2498.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
持續推進總和外交的各項工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2498.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2500.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
同時結合國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2500.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
各方力量團結國外的民主夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
捍衛自由民主價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
拓展國際空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
也為區域與全球的和平穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
和繁榮做出積極的貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
最後再次感謝會員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
對本部的支持和協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2517.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
也請對本年外交部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2517.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2519.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
預算給予鼎力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2519.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2521.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
那為最後以今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2521.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2523.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
馬年我們的春聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2523.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2525.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
馳騁寰宇 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2525.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2527.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
作為祝福期許和承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2527.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2529.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
期待在新的一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2529.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2531.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
台灣外交會更強更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2531.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2533.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
與世界做朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2533.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2535.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
以上敬請視角,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2539.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2539.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2541.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我們現在開始詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2541.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2543.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
本會委員8加2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2543.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2545.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
非本會委員5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2545.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2547.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
10點30分截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2547.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2549.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
如有臨時提案,請於10點30分之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2549.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2551.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
提出11點左右處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2551.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2554.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
現在請陳俊宇委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
好謝謝趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2571.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
我們請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2570.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2572.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2577.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2579.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2579.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2581.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2611.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2639.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2641.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2669.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2671.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2692.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2722.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2754.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2784.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2812.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2814.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2844.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2872.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2874.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2902.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2932.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2934.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2962.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2964.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2992.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2994.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
3022.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3024.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3052.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3082.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3084.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
3112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
3142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3144.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
3162.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
3164.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
3178.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
3180.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
3183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
3185.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
3193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
3195.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
3200.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
3202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
3230.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
3232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
3245.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
3247.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
3247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
3250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
接下來我們請羅美齡委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
3255.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
3257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
謝謝主席有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
3257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
3259.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
3265.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
3267.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
3295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
3297.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
3313.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
3315.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
3343.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
3345.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
3364.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
3366.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
3394.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
3396.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
3414.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
3417 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
3444.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
3447 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
3462.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
3464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
3492.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3494.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
3522.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3524.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3552.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3554.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3568.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3570.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
3598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3600.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
3628.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3630.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
3632.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3634.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
3662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3664.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3724.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3752.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3754.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
3782.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3784.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3812.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3814.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3842.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3844.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3872.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3874.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
3902.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3904.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3932.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3934.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
3933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3935.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3963.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3993.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3995.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
4023.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
4025.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
4035.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
4037.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
4037.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
4041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
接下來請黃人委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
4043.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
4045.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
4048.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
4050.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
有請林部長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
4050.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
4052.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
4058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
4060.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
4088.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
4090.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
4103.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
4105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
部長早上好 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
4105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
4107.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
這個正式在 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
4108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
4113.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
2月28號開始政府協助第一批中東地區僑胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
4114.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
4117.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
這個回台用了多少的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
4117.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
4119.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
第一批回台的人數大概多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
4121.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
4126.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
報告委員這當然我們統計到2400多人有協助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
4126.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
4130.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
其中有一些是在地僑民或台商或學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
4130.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
4134.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
另外有一些是因為轉機過境的旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
4134.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
4137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
前面那個部分我們都聯繫的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
4137.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
4140.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
第一時間我們都有建立通訊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
4140.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
4143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
那個時間多少大概你們那個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
4143.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
4146.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
我們幾乎在因為中東的戰事發生也不是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
4146.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
4149.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
所以我們大概所有的這些外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
4149.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
4153.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
我們總共有8個相關的管處在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
4153.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
4155.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
我們都有一個群組也密切聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
4155.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
4159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
所以第一時間就已經都會跟這個僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
4159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
4163.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
我說在地的這些台灣人保持聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
4163.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
4165.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
他們也會回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
4165.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
4168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
至於說後面出去旅遊回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
4168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
4172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
或是這一些當然我們涉及到交通部跟觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
4172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
4174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
對旅行社這邊的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
4174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
4176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
那我們再做會診 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
4176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
4178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
部長為什麼要問這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
4178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
4181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
因為我們在撤僑的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
4181.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
4185.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
因為常常會發生中東的一些戰事的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
4185.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
4186.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
4186.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
4191.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
有很多我們台灣國人在這個僑外裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
4191.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
4193.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
萬一發生要他回台的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
4193.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
4196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
你們外交部的扮演的角色非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
4196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
4200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
所以在第一時間在應變中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
4200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
4203.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
在陰陰的這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
4203.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
4204.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
我們要很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
4204.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
4208.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
大概我們在應變陰陰的時間裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
4208.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
4210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
大概有多少的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
4210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
4212.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
所以這個時候我要問你的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
4212.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
4214.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
我剛剛同仁有進一步說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
4214.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
4216.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
從3月1號開始 |
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4216.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
4219.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
從陸陸然後另外後續陸續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
4219.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
4222.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
包括從以色列到阿聯酋都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
4222.44 |
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4224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
對好 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
4224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
4227.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
那所以這個就是我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
4227.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
4231.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
當然外交部扮演的這個角色非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
4231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
4235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
但是我們也應該不能孤軍的來奮戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
4235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
4239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
外交部孤軍的來奮戰也要其他的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
4239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
4242.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
相同的大家一起來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
4242.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
4245.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
外交部在駐外的這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
4245.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
4249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
來幫忙這些僑胞能夠撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
4249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
4252.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
因為以下待會我要講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
4252.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
4256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
因為撤僑的考驗不只是外館臨時應變的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
4256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
4260.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
也是對制度熟練程度的一個檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
4260.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
4263.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
理論上外館都會有緊急應變的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
4263.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
4268.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那為了遭遇緊急事件能夠依計畫安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
4268.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
4270.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
那平時還要做到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
4270.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
4273.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
要定期更新僑胞的名冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
4273.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
4276.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
和建立聯絡網 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
4276.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
4280.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
所以相信這些外交部都有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
4280.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
4282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
只是做了多少考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
4282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
4285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
到許多外館人力有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
4285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
4289.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
本席比較擔心平時是否有落實包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
4289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
4294.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
非戰鬥人員和僑胞撤離的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
4294.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
4297.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
這就是我擔憂的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
4297.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
4299.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
那另外我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
4299.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
4301.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
駐外的外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
4301.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
4305.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
外館處是否每一年都有安排撤僑的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
4305.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
4307.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
那頻率是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
4309.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
4310.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
頻率是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
4310.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
4312.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
4324.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
4327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
每個地方的情況要跟他戰爭的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
4327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
4328.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
像以色列 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
4328.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
4330.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
4330.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
4333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
你就把這些相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
4333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
4336.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
這個外交部提供相關的資料給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
4336.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
4337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
4337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
4339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
那這樣的話我就比較知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
4339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
4341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
你們大概多少的頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
4341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
4343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
在演練的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
4343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
4345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
這樣我們就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
4345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
4350.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
只要是有發生任何在國際發生戰事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
4350.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
4355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
我們的外交部在駐外的演練的頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
4355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
4359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
大概還有在應變的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
4359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
4363.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
大概有沒有隨時在激動時 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
4363.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
4365.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
要面對著國際的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
4365.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
4370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
那另外就是在過去的國際上的典範 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
4370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
4372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
典範的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
4372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
4376.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
例如2006年的韓國的李巴嫩撤僑的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
4376.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
4383.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
2021年美國在阿富汗的喀布爾撤離的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
4383.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
4387.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
2023日本在蘇丹的撤僑行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
4387.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
4390.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
所以本席發現他們有一個共同的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
4390.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
4391.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
4391.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
4397.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
一他們事前都經過實際的演練 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
4397.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
4402.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
第二都會安排由經濟或國營民航機的撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
4402.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
4411.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
第三將撤僑的列為國家安全層級的跨部會行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
4411.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
4416.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
這不是只有外交部的一個單一的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
4416.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
4418.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
4418.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
4421.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
你們有沒有整個像這樣的一個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
4421.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
4425.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
不是只有你們外交部單一的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
4425.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
4429.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
那是不是要尋求其他的各部會的一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
4429.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
4430.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
包括委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
4430.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
4435.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
行政院也有政府協助裡外國人跟僑民緊急應變的處理原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
4435.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
4439.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
也包括所謂的緊急避難作業程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
4439.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
4443.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
那我們外館也都會因地制訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
4443.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
4445.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
包括撤僑在內的緊急應變計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
4445.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
4447.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
滾動式的檢討修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
4447.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
4450.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
那當然每個國家的情形不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
4450.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
4452.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
因為我們其實跟很多國家都沒有邦交過 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
4452.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
4454.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
甚至我們在當地的館處 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
4454.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
4460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
有一些也不具有外交上面的特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
4460.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
4465.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
所以在處理上我們會跟我們的友盟保持密切聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
4465.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
4467.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
像我們看到包括這一次日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
4467.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
4470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
他也會跟我們諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
4470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
4471.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
有沒有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
4471.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
4474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
所以這一個也是台灣比較處境特別的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
4474.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
4477.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
至於說行政院也是有這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
4477.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
4480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
跨部會我們也都在群組裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
4480.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
4481.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
那也有開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
4481.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
4483.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
那如果要涉及撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
4483.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
4485.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
那也涉及到交通工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
4485.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
4487.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
那就是屬於交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
4487.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
4488.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
那因為如果說是要旅行 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
4488.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
4489.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
所以他帶的旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
4489.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
4492.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
那這個當然就涉及到觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
4492.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
4495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
所以確實是除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
4495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
4497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
就是需求啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
4497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
4498.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
有沒有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
4498.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
4499.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
我們僑民的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
4499.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
4500.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
我們要調查了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
4500.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
4502.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
這是外交部做的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
4502.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
4503.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
幾乎都列冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
4503.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
4505.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
每個人第一時間的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
4505.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
4507.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
然後就是說他們怎麼去避難 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
4507.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
4508.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
我們都有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
4508.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
4511.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
那至於說是旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
4511.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
4512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
因為過境啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
4512.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
4513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
或是那個這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
4513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
4514.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
我們就需要交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
4514.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
4516.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
觀光署的參與跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
4516.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
4517.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
我也希望是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
4517.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
4520.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
那當然本席過去訪關來觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
4520.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
4523.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
我國過去撤僑的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
4523.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
4524.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
通常會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
4524.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
4528.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
一初期的撤僑速度太慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
4528.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
4530.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
第二非常依賴外國的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
4530.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
4534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
第三切伐政府其他部會的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
4534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
4537.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
以上第一個狀況可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
4537.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
4541.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
和切伐真實的撤僑的演練有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
4541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
4543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
第二情況是因應 |
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4543.82 |
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因為我們我國受到 |
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4546.82 |
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4548.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
特殊的國際的因素的限制 |
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4548.82 |
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4551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
這是一個客觀條件限制的一個無奈 |
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4551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
4554.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
那第三撤僑是外交部 |
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4554.82 |
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4556.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
部門的孤雞奮戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
4556.82 |
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4559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
所以其他部會的參與 |
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4559.82 |
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4561.82 |
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被動和協助不足 |
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4561.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
4564.82 |
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甚至行政院可能都沒有 |
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4564.82 |
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4567.82 |
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主動協調其他部會協助 |
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4567.82 |
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4570.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
所以這個就是我們的盲點在這裡 |
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4570.86 |
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4571.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
所以我要點出的問題 |
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4571.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
4574.86 |
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請部長能夠清楚 |
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4574.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
4577.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
我們應該在跟行政院 |
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4577.86 |
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4579.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
加強的橫向聯繫 |
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4579.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
4582.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
萬一有發生任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
4582.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
4584.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
在國外間撤僑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
4584.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
4586.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
我們外交部除了 |
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4586.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
4588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
第一個主動出擊 |
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4588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
4590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
幫忙撤僑 |
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4590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
4594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
第二一定要請行政部門 |
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4594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
4596.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
相關的來做一個協助 |
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4596.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
4598.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
這樣的話外交部才不會 |
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4598.9 |
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4600.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
孤雞奮戰孤雞作戰 |
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4600.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
4603.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
我們會不斷的來精進 |
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4603.9 |
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4605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
特別是跟行政院也有個機制 |
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4605.9 |
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4607.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
我們來反應 |
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4607.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
4609.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
委員很好的一個寶貴的觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
4609.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
4610.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
跟指導 |
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4610.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
4612.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
比較安心 |
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4612.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
4614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
那另外就是我常常聽到 |
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4614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
4616.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
這個駐外人員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
4616.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
4618.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
4620.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
4622.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
各部會協調的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
4622.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
4623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
顯示一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
4623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
4626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
涉及到外事務 |
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4626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
4629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
主要是由外交部負責 |
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4629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
4631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
但不單純是外交部的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
4631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
4633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我國的駐外單位也不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
4633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
4635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
有外交部 |
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4635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
4638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
例如111年1月退伍會 |
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4638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
在首度派員駐美 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
4640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
強化以退伍經營組織的一個聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
4644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
4646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
經濟部國安局 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
4646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
4648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
衛福部等也都會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
4648.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
4650.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
駐外的人員在國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
4650.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
4652.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
但目前除了外交部以外 |
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4652.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
4656.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
還有外派駐外人員的部會 |
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4656.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
4657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
有哪一些 |
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4657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
4658.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
大概有多少人 |
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4659.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
4660.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
報告委員 |
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4660.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
4663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
當然主要是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
4663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
4665.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
國科會 文化部 |
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4665.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
4667.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
然後也當然特定領域 |
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4667.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
4668.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
剛剛講包括退伍會 |
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4668.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
4670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
有些也有 |
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4670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
4671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
教育部也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
4671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
4672.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
主要 |
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4672.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
4674.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
我們總體上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
4675.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
4678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
有628人 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
4678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
4680.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
是駐外 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
4680.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
4682.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
那目前在 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
4682.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
4684.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
其實各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
4685.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
4687.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
在本部 |
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4687.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
4688.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
4688.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
4689.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
所謂借用我們的員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
4689.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
4690.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
大概35人 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
4690.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
4692.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
4692.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
4693.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
這幾個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
4695.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
4696.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
4696.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
4697.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
4697.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
4698.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
給我一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
4698.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
4699.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
4699.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
4701.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
那另外就是因為使用因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
4701.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
4702.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
4702.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
4703.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
請主席再給我一分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
4703.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
4706.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
那我國派駐國外的使團 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
4706.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
4708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
員額是否受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
4708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
4709.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
這個 |
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4709.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
4710.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
這個駐在 |
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4710.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
4711.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
4711.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
4713.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
在國限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
4713.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
4714.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
在國的限制 |
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4714.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
4716.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
4716.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
4718.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
那外派的人員以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
4718.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
4720.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
其他部會外派的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
4720.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
4721.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
使用權爾是否 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
4721.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
4724.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
他們自己和駐在 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
4724.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
4725.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
駐在國 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
4725.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
4727.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
另外的一個協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
4727.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
4729.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
還是由外交部的員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
4729.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
4730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
借給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
4730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
4733.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
借員額的情況 |
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4733.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
4734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
非常的嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
4734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
4735.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
大概有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
4735.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
4736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
名冊也給我一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
4736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
4737.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
4737.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
4738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
我跟委員補充報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
4738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
4740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我正在處理這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
4740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
4741.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
4741.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
4742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
借用名額 |
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4742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
4743.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
或用這個預算 |
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4743.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
4744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
其實 |
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4744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
4746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
從總和外交的角度來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
4746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
4748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
我們應該整體的去檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
4748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
4749.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
現在的外館 |
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4749.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
4750.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
或160個外館 |
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4750.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
4751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
當然有錢 |
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4751.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
4752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
然後需要的人力 |
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4752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
4753.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
跟他的預算 |
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4753.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
4754.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
對 |
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4754.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
4755.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
那做一個整體的規劃 |
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4755.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
4756.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
我也想 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
4756.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
4758.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
大院的支持是很重要 |
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4758.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
4759.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
那我們比如說 |
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4759.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
4760.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
歐洲專案 |
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4760.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
4761.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
我們去年跟人事總處 |
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4761.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
4762.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
溝通協調 |
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4762.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
4764.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
他就有跟我們增加的緣額 |
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4764.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
4765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
當然外交官要經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
4765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
4766.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
考試訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
4766.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
4768.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
那是很冗長的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
4768.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
4769.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
那至於各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
4769.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
4770.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
過去在駐外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
4770.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
4771.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
我們怎麼去整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
4771.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
4773.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
花揮館長制 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
4773.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
4775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
整體的總和外交的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
4775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
4776.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
制度面我們也在變革 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
4776.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
4778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
但是在人的緣額 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
4778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
4779.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
還有預算上 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
4779.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
4781.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
我們也是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
4781.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
4782.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
一次性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
4782.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
4783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
4783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
4785.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
能夠找到解決的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
4785.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
4786.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
因為外館的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
4786.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
4787.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
非常的繁忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
4787.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
4790.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
那大多數的外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
4790.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
4793.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
管處都有一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
4793.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
4794.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
身兼數值 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
4794.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
4796.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
調來調去 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
4796.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
4797.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
然後調來 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
4797.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
4798.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
然後借用 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
4798.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
4799.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
然後又回到本職 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
4799.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
4801.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
4801.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
4803.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
對外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
4803.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
4804.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
實在是不公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
4804.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
4805.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
所以這個你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
4805.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
4807.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
要通報一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
4807.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
4808.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
那對外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
4808.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
4811.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
應該要專止在他本職 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
4811.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
4812.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
本職的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
4813.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
4815.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
很多駐外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
4815.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
4816.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
4816.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
4818.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
給我很多的一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
4818.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
4819.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
那駐外的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
4819.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
4820.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
不能身兼數值 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
4820.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
4821.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
4821.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
4822.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
4822.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
4823.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
至於本職 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
4823.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
4824.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
除了做之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
4824.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
4826.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
還要監到其他的部會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
4826.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
4827.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
這樣對他們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
4827.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
4828.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
是不公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
4828.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
4829.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
4829.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
4830.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
你們要通報檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
4830.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
4831.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
4831.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
4832.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
我也期待就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
4832.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
4834.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
我們除了外領人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
4834.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
4835.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
這些條例之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
4835.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
4836.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
有一個外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
4836.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
4837.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
4837.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
4839.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
就是人員的服務法 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
4839.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
4840.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
像美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
4840.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
4841.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
他就有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
4841.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
4842.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
Foreign Service Act |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
4842.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
4843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
然後我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
4843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
4844.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
也有很多委員表達關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
4844.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
4845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
我們也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
4845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
4847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
一些專家學者在指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
4847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
4848.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
能夠建構一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
4848.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
4850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
台灣現在是很特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
4850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
4852.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
因為我們真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
4852.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
4854.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
各國都想跟我們來往 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
4855.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
4856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
那就是透過我們外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
4856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
4858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
可是我們外館的 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
4858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
4859.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
能量如果不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
4859.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
4860.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
或者是您剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
4860.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
4861.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
因為一人兼數值 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
4861.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
4863.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
還有他們的工作上面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
4863.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
4864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
環境啊權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
4864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
4866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
這也是我作為外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
4866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
4867.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
很重要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
4867.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
4868.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
4868.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
4869.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
4869.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
4870.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
4870.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
4871.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
4871.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
4872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
大願能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
4872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
4873.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
4879.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
4880.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
4880.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
4881.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
接下來請陳永康 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
4881.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
4882.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
4893.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
4894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
謝謝趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
4894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
4896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
有請外交部林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
4896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
4897.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
4902.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
4903.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
4903.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
4904.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
4904.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
4905.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
剛才因為聽到前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
4905.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
4906.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
我們委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
4906.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
4907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
提到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
4907.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
4908.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
有關駐外人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
4908.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
4909.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
這個編制啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
4909.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
4910.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
複合之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
4910.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
4912.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
我提一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
4912.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
4913.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
另外的一個建言 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
4913.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
4914.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
就是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
4914.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
4916.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
傑出的女性外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
4916.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
4918.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
比例上是非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
4918.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
4920.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
但是在很多駐在國 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
4920.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
4921.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
他當地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
4921.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
4923.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
Local labor force |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
4923.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
4924.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
是不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
4924.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
4926.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
我們建議在當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
4926.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
4928.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
本地的僱員 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
4928.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
4929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
可以增加人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
4929.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
4931.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
那在預算的需求上 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
4931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
4932.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
這一點啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
4932.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
4933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
我們來支持外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
4933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
4934.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
因為有很多的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
4934.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
4935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
除了白天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
4935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
4936.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
外交事務以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
4936.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
4938.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
還有當地有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
4938.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
4940.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
行政協調的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
4940.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
4941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
可是這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
4941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
4942.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
由我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
4942.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
4943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
真正駐外人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
4943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
4944.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
來負擔的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
4944.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
4945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
是不堪複合 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
4945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
4946.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
那我們可以建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
4946.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
4947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
4947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
4948.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
當地Local employee的 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
4948.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
4949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
4949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
4951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
那這個預算上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
4951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
4953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
其實外交部可以做規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
4953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
4954.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
那這是第一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
4954.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
4955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
4955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
4956.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
這位委員看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
4956.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
4957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
一個最關鍵的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
4957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
4958.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
什麼因地質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
4958.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
然後有個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4960 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4961 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
然後有個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4961 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4962 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
然後這也涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
4962 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4963 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
4963 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4965 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
怎麼樣的聘用 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
4965 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4967 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
的辦法能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4967 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4969 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
能夠符合需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
4969 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4970 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
4970 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4971 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
第二個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
4971 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4972 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
也是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
4972 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4973 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
您提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
4973 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4974 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
就是這個2758 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4974 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4975 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
這個條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
4975 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
4977 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
因為1971年10月25號 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
4977 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
4979 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
他已經經過好多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
4979 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4980 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
4980 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4981 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
算那一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4981 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4983 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
變成支持中共的票 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
4983 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
4984 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
多過我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4984 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4986 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
但是他在這個條款裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4986 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4988 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
他有一點點這個貓膩 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4988 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4989 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
因為他是講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4989.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4990.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
Restoration of the local right |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4992.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
of the people of the Republic of China |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4995.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
in United States |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4997.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4998.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
Nations |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4998.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4999.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
他希望Restoration |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
5000.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
5002.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
但聯合國的創立 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
5002.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
5003.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
中華民國是 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
5003.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
5004.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
原始的 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
5004.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
5005.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
主要國 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
5005.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
5006.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
簽字到憲章 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
5006.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
5007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
還是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
5007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
5008.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
那你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
5008.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
5010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
怎麼去恢復中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
5010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
5011.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
他不敢用一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
5011.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
5012.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
他不敢用replacement |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
5012.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
5014.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
所以他不能講 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
5014.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
5015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
取代中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
5015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
5016.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
或提到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
5016.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
5018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
因此這個部分的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
5018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
5019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
5019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
5020.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
我們未來在 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
5020.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
5021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
授課過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
5021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
5022.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
學院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
5022.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
5023.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
對年輕的外銷官 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
5023.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
5025.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
在國際法裡面的用字 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
5025.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
5026.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
要強調這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
5026.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
5027.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
讓大家認清 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
5027.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
5029.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
因為現在被扭曲的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
5031.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
5032.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
5032.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
5033.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
這最關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
5033.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
5034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
5034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
5035.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
中華民國是 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
5035.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
5036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
聯合國的創立國 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
5036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
5037.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
又是安理會 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
5037.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
5039.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
的常任的理事國 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
5039.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
5040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
5040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
5042.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
這個確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
5042.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
5043.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
5043.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
5044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
所謂這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
5044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
5045.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
中國代表權 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
5045.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
5047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
這是一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
5047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
5048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
對台灣來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
5048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
5050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
在這個278決議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
5050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
5051.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
150個字裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
5051.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
5053.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
並沒有去觸及 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
5053.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
5054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
5056.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
5057.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
5057.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
5058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
下面這個圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
5058.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
5060.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
提供做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
5061.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
5062.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
5062.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
5064.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
川普在去年的4月2號 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
5064.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
5066.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
提到了對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
5066.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
5067.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
他說這不是經濟問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
5068.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
5069.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
他這是已經國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
5069.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
5070.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
當他提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
5070.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
5071.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
國安問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
5071.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
5072.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
就涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
5072.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
5073.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
地緣政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
5073.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
5074.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
地緣經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
5074.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
5075.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
地緣戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
5075.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
5077.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
因此這三個地緣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
5077.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
5079.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
這個已經糾結在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
5079.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
5080.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
正如同您今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
5080.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
5081.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
報告書裡面講 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
5081.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
5083.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
全球地緣衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
5083.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
5084.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
持續加劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
5084.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
5086.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
台灣的戰略自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
5086.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
5087.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
也越行重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
5087.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
5088.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
那我在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
5088.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
5090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
也持續向這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
5090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
5091.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
這個貴部 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
5091.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
5092.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
或者其他部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
5092.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
5093.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
提出建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
5093.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
5094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
希望我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
5094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
5095.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
在這個任內 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
5095.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
5097.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
提出我們的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
5097.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
5098.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
在這個任內 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
5098.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
5099.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
提出我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
5099.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
5100.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
5100.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
5101.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
因為剛剛您提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
5101.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
5102.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
在美國國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
5102.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
5104.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
去年11月公佈的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
5104.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
5105.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
提到台灣八次 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
5105.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
5106.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
但是到了美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
5106.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
5107.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
國防戰略的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
5107.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
5109.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
就沒有提到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
5109.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
5110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
那最主要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
5110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
5112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
是國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
5112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
5113.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
國防戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
5113.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
5114.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
國防軍事戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
5114.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
5115.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
在作戰區 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
5115.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
5116.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
它是一層一層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
5116.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
5117.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
5117.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
5118.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
那麼有重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
5118.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
5119.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
有指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
5119.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
5120.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
從上到下 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
5120.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
5121.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
是政策指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
5121.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
5123.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
從下向上 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
5123.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
5124.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
是實力支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
5124.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
5125.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
那要產生一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
5125.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
5126.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
共同的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
5126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
5127.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
那目前在這塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
5127.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
5128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我們並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
5128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
5129.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
所以從這個圖上 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
5129.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
5130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
裡面可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
5134.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
5135.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
川普 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
5135.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
5136.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
5137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
5139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
這個習大大 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
5139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
5140.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
他們見面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
5140.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
5142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
談不談觸及不觸及台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
5144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
5146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
基於他們雙方的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
5146.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
5147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
那我們要保持 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
5147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
5149.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
我們自己的核心價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
5149.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
5150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
5150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
5152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
這個全球的經濟經貿 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
5152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
5153.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
持續充滿變數 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
5153.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
5155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
世界需要台灣的科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
5155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
5156.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
同樣就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
5156.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
5158.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
地緣衝突加大 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
5158.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
5159.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
這個衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
5159.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
5160.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
不只是經濟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
5160.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
5161.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
政治的軍事問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
5161.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
5163.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
那在這種格局下 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
5163.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
5164.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
我們需要運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
5164.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
5166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
AI的大數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
5166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
5167.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
也建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
5167.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
5168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我們在這個外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
5168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
5171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
強化AI這個工具上的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
5171.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
5172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
就是把全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
5172.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
5173.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
全世界有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
5173.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
5175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
我們叫開源情資 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
5175.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
5177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
就是Open Source Information |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
5177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
5178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
5178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
5180.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
要用AI來做整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
5180.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
5182.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
對於國際情勢發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
5182.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
5183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
可以產生一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
5183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
5184.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
預應的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
5186.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
5188.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
那麼再下張圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
5188.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
5189.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
我們現在看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
5189.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
5191.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
國際現實中 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
5191.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
5192.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
大國基本上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
5192.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
5193.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
兩手策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
5193.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
5194.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
左右換利 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
5195.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
5196.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
5196.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
5197.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
前後施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
5197.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
5199.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
這個雙重標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
5199.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
5200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
上下調序 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
5201.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
5202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
變換主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
5202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
5203.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
使他的友盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
5203.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
5204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
在對手中 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
5204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
5205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
不得不做出讓步 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
5205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
5206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
那這個中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
5206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
5208.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
就是國家安全戰略的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
5208.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
5209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
5209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
5210.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
包括你的實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
5210.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
5211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
包括你的價值觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
5211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
5212.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
包括你的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
5212.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
5213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
當然有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
5213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
5215.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
軍事、經濟、資安、政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
5215.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
5216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
還有核心利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
5216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
5218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
長期利益、短期利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
5218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
5220.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
再加上我們的價值觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
5220.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
5221.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
民主、自由、法治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
5221.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
5222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
但是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
5222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
5223.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
這三個關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
5223.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
5224.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
是互聯互動性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
5224.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
5226.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
我們需要把我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
5226.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
5227.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
Center of Gravity |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
5227.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
5229.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
透過國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
5229.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
5230.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
能夠及早定位出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
5230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
5231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
那這種情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
5231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
5233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
可以看到美中兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
5233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
5234.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
它是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
5235.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
5236.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
鬥而不破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
5237.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
5238.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
核是維持和平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
5238.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
5239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
但不合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
5239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
5241.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
那我們在中間的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
5241.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
5242.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
會越來越重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
5242.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
5244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
但是自我核心價值的定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
5244.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
5246.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
還是要靠一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
5246.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
5247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
文字版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
5247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
5248.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
中華民國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
5248.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
5249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
國家安全戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
5249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
5252.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
那美國的這個和平手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
5252.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
5253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
它後面一定是個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
5253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
5254.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
實力支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
5254.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
5256.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
所以你看這個和平哥後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
5256.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
5257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
它是它的B2轟炸機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
5257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
5259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
所以顯示出是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
5259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
5261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
它這個永遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
5261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
5263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
在彈後面有實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
5263.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
5264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
這個不彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
5264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
5266.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
它要從另外一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
5266.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
5267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
做回路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
5267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
5268.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
那這個做給你參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
5268.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
5269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
最後一這個圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
5269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
5270.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
就是從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
5273.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
5274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
川普一到拜登一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
5274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
5276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
到川普現在任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
5276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
5278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
那這是強權主導的外交政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
5278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
5281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
跟政軍精心的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
5281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
5282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
它是強勢威懾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
5282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
5283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
鬥而不破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
5283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
5284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
和而不和 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
5284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
5285.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
製造議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
5285.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
5286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
主導談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
5286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
5287.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
這是強權的主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
5287.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
5289.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
但是這裡面的每一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
5289.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
5290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
都可以排序出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
5290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
5292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
它是前後調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
5292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
5294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
那我會把這個圖提供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
5294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
5296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
這個櫃部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
5296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
5297.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
那另外我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
5297.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
5298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
建議用方法論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
5298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
5299.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
5299.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
5301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
每一個產生的彈書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
5301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
5302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
跟回饋的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
5302.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
5303.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
它可以左右調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
5303.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
5304.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
那這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
5304.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
5306.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
如果變成一套運用的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
5306.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
5308.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
對我們外交部的同仁來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
5308.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
5310.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
就是變成預應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
5310.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
5312.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
而不是等到事情發生的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
5312.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
5313.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
5313.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
5315.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
請大家一起共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
5317.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
5318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
5318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
5319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
5319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
5320.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
5320.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
5322.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
架構跟理論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
5322.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
5324.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
一個對外交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
5324.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
5325.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
5325.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
5326.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
跟它的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
5326.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
5327.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
5327.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
5328.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
那確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
5328.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
5329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
我們外交學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
5329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
5331.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
也希望把這個納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
5331.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
5334.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
這個對外交官的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
5334.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
5335.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
那我們的言社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
5335.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
5336.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
還有幾個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
5336.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
5337.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
5337.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
5338.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
待會再注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
5338.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
5339.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
這個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
5339.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
5340.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
不只質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
5340.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
5342.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
您在接近外賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
5342.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
5343.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
還有有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
5343.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
5345.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
談話裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
5345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
5347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
那這個跟我們總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
5347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
5349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
是高度契合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
5349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
5350.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
5350.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
5352.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
因為剛才前面的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
5352.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
5353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
已經提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
5353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
5354.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
就是這次美伊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
5354.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
5356.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
在伊朗中東周邊國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
5356.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
5357.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
外交部對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
5357.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
5359.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
駐外僑民的掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
5359.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
5360.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
這個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
5360.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
5362.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
當然這個是大家共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
5362.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
5365.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
因為在國家安全戰略裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
5365.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
5367.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
我們可以加上一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
5367.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
5368.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
就是對於預應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
5368.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
5369.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
5369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
5371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
在某個地區發生了戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
5371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
5372.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
那這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
5372.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
5374.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
跨部協商的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
5374.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
5375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
如何來主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
5375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
5378.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
是不是在這個狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
5378.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
5380.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我們要做一個特別專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
5380.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
5382.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
預留一些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
5382.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
5383.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
要特別的員額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
5383.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
5385.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
因為靠駐在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
5385.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
5387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
我當地可能人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
5387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
5388.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
或者是它的附和 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
5388.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
5390.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
也不堪能夠協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
5390.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
5393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
要透過友好國家的共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
5393.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
5394.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
那麼未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
5394.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
5395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
我們在規劃的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
5395.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
5397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
希望把這個特別案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
5397.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
5398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
因為全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
5398.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
5400.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
將來發生軍事衝突的機率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
5400.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
5401.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
都仍然存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
5401.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
5403.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
那做出一個特別案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
5403.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
5404.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
預做預算因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
5404.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
5405.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
及人力附和 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
5405.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
5408.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
以及跟航空公司的包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
5408.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
5409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
如何處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
5409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
5410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
我今天早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
5410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
5411.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
還接到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
5411.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
5413.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
華航機師回報的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
5413.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
5415.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
從這個DOHA出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
5415.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
5416.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
飛機是滿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
5416.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
5417.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
就是座位訂不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
5417.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
5420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
那當然不是光我們的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
5420.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
5422.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
那我覺得我們外交的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
5422.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
5423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
在這個領域上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
5423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
5424.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
也付出很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
5424.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
5425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
我們希望共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
5425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
5427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
預應這個危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
5427.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
5429.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
而不是這個危機發生了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
5429.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
5430.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
如何做危機控管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
5430.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
5432.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
這個提供部長您做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
5432.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
5433.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
5435.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
5436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
5436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
5437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
這邊就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
5438.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
5439.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
5457.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
5459.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
好 我們下面請馬文君委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
5461.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
5462.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
5467.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
5468.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
5468.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
5469.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
麻煩請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
5469.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
5470.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
好 有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
5470.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
5471.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
5477.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
5478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
5478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
5480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
部長 其實今天早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
5480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
5481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
在夜報的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
5481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
5482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
我發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
5482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
5485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
部長做了一件很好的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
5485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
5487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
因為這個已經很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
5487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
5488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我們看到民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
5488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
5490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
都做不到的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
5490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
5492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
因為在夜報上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
5492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
5493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
寫到我們的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
5493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
5496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
交出量力的成績單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
5496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
5498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
部長大概覺得不太妥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
5498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
5499.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
所以你把它改成及格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
5499.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
5500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
其實我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
5500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
5501.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
不管是外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
5501.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
5503.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
或者各項的政府推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
5503.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
5505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
任何政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
5505.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
5508.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
都有可能面臨困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
5508.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
5510.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
或者你有做的不夠的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
5510.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
5512.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
不可能百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
5512.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
5514.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
那我們就務實的去面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
5514.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
5516.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
尤其是外交的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
5516.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
5517.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
我們不會不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
5517.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
5519.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
我們的外交的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
5519.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
5521.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
我們也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
5521.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
5522.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
現在的國際態勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
5522.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
5524.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
對我們從過去到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
5524.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
5525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
我們一直知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
5525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
5527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
存在這樣的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
5527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
5529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
可是我們不要過度的美化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
5529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
5531.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
我們現在政府很喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
5531.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
5534.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
用那種內宣外宣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
5534.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
5536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
然後都說我們做得非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
5536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
5538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
可是大家當看到結果的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
5538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
5539.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
又不這麼認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
5539.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
5540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
其實那種落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
5540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
5542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
反而會讓人民不信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
5542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
5544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
所以我發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
5544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
5546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
部長今天這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
5546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
5547.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
我覺得做得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
5547.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
5549.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
我們也希望未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
5549.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
5551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
我們在任何的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
5551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
5553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
如果說大家可以朝向這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
5553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
5554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
因為你說及格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
5554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
5556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
那表示有一些是做不 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
5556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
5557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
做得不夠好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
5557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
5559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
那那些不夠好的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
5559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
5561.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
我們應該用什麼樣的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
5561.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
5562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
或者我們應該要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
5562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
5563.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
去強力的補強 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
5563.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
5564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
或更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
5566.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
這才是大家去討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5566.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
5570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
一個重要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
5570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
5572.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
所以今天從這裡看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5572.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
5574.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
我們也希望說接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
5574.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
5575.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
我們有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
5575.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
5577.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
在可以討論的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
5577.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
5578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
或可以做得更好的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
5578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
5580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
大家可以共同來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
5580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
5582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
剛剛有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
5582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
5583.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
就是說在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
5583.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
5585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
美以一戰爭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
5585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
5588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
我們這個撤僑的這個行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
5588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
5590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
因為過去其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
5590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
5592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
日本三一大地震 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
5592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
5593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
或者燕子颱風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
5593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
5596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
或者像之前二戰爭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
5596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
5598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
其實我們都會面臨到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5601.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
有一些國人或者大家會關注到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5601.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
是不是要撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
5602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
5604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
或者是不是我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
5604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
5606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
可以提供什麼樣的一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
5606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
5608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
讓我們的國人也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
5608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
5609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
我們的僑民也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
5609.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
5612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
他們有一個更安全的一個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
5612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
5615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
在這一次美以一戰爭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
5615.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
5617.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
事實上真的有一些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
5617.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
5619.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
其實是困在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
5619.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
5620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
那我們在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
5620.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
5623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
我們在這裡要釐清的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
5623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
5625.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
其實大家不要把它過度政治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
5625.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
5628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
因為在面對生死交關的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
5628.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
5630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
大家只是想要安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
5630.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
5633.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
或者活著找一個出路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
5633.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
5635.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
或者可以找到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
5635.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
5636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
活著回家的一個路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
5636.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
5639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
所以這是政府應該要提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
5639.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
5640.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
那今天如果我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
5640.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
5643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
還沒有辦法做到更好的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
5643.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
5644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
更周全的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
5644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
其實我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
讓他們有機會去做任何的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5649.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5651.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
這一次包括中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5651.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5654.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
其實他們也讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5654.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5655.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
我們的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
5655.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5657.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
其實可以上他們的飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5657.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5659.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
即使從上海轉機回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5659.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5661.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
我們也有國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
5661.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
5663.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
其實可以做日本的包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
5663.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5665.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
日本是把他們剩下的座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5665.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5667.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
也提供給其他的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5667.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5668.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
只要你願意出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5668.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5670.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
可能包括我們台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5670.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5672.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
所以只要有這樣的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5672.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5674.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
我們都應該讓他上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5674.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
5675.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
因為我不相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
5675.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5677.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
有些人說那個有什麼風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
如果今天在海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
發生海難的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
周邊最近的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5685.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
中國大陸的一個船隻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5685.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
他可以提供救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5690.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
他可以提供所有的救生圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5690.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
救生設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
可以讓你上船 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5692.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
我不相信那些在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
說有風險的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5698.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
他寧願自己在冰冷的海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5698.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
繼續飄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5700.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
他不會上船 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
今天如果我們設身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5703.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
處地的去想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
不要所有的把它政治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5706.04 |
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5708.04 |
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我們也有接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
國人其實在對我們請求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
他說事實上他們回不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
5712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
可是後來他們就是搭上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
5714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
飛機坐到上海 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
5716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
5717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
轉機回來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
5719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
我覺得這個不需要去苛責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
5721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
我們也沒有苛責我們自己的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
5723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
因為我們有一些困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
5725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
可是當你做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
5725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
5726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
你沒有辦法做到的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
5726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
5728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
你應該要讓國人有這樣的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
5728.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
5730.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
而不是再去限制他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
5730.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
5732.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
所以這是我們藉這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
5732.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
5733.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
要特別提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
5733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
5735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
剛剛說到的撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
5735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
5736.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
因為有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5736.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
5737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
我們可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
5737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
5739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
沒有辦法去做包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
5739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
5741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
或者有專機過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
5741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
5744.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
因為這個牽涉到很多相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
5744.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
5746.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
可是我們在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
5746.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
5748.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
要反過來提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
5748.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
因為這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
5751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
我們還是請外交部可以做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
5752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
因為現在這樣的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
5753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
可能越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
5755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
我們所有的氣候的變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
5756.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
造成在哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5756.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
5758.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
會發生重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
5758.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
5760.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
5760.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5761.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
風險影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5761.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
5762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5762.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
5764.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
只要像現在世界的局勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
5764.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
5765.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
這麼不穩定的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
5765.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5767.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
哪一個區域會發生戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5767.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5769.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
即使不是發生在你那個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5769.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5770.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
不是在伊朗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5770.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5771.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
可是在周邊國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5771.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5772.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
包括杜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5772.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5773.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
大家都會去的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5773.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5775.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
你也不知道就是會被打了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5775.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5777.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
所以這樣子的因應的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5777.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
5779.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
我們必須要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5779.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
先有一個處置的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5784.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
所以我們現在把它推回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5784.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5786.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
外交部現在有出國登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5786.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5788.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
月月抽的這個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5788.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5789.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5789.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5790.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
我們希望大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5790.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5792.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
可以在政策上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5792.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5793.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
怎麼樣去做一個連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5793.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
因為近期外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
5797.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
跟媒體發布國人旅遊補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5797.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5799.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
只要符合資格出國玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5799.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5801.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
最高可以領五千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5801.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5803.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
或者有一千或五百元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5803.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5805.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
或者小禮物等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5805.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5807.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5807.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5809.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
說是為了讓國人海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5809.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
旅遊安全便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5810.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5812.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
外交領事事務局推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5812.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5814.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
這個出國登錄的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5814.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5815.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
可是我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5815.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
這個可能也有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5817.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5818.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
因為你這個是自主登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5818.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
所以你沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5822.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
去記錄到所有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5822.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
所以當他在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5824.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
世界那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5824.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5825.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
國家那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5825.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
他要去旅遊也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
去工作也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5828.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
各方面出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5828.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
任何形式都可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
所以當他沒有的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5834.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
其實你也沒有辦法掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5834.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5836.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
所以我們把錢花在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5836.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
與其要花在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
是不是把它用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
強化我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
怎麼樣在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
就我們剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5843.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5845.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
像現在因應各項的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5845.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5846.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5847.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
我們怎麼樣讓國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5849.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
知道第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5849.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
要怎麼樣聯繫我們的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5852.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
所有的駐外管處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5852.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5853.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
或者怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5853.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
有一個幫他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
協助的一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5858.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
跟窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5858.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5860.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
我們去強化這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5860.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
在他們出國的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
因為出國就只有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5864.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
就這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5864.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
就只能從機場出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
從那個海關出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
所以那樣子的一個管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
應該非常容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
讓他們得到這樣訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
比你去抽獎還要好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5876.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
因為他們的管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5876.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
還要好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
因為我們看不出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
他抽獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
可以有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
這樣海外安全的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
因為大家要去哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
比如說要去義大利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
爬手很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
大家都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
做一些預防的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
在必要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5892.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
提供協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5892.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
而不是這種抽獎的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
部長有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
我是同意委員的觀察跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5899.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5901.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5901.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5903.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
當然一開始的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5903.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5905.07 |
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就是五年前開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5906.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
包括這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5906.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5908.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
所謂裡外國人動態登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5908.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
包括LINE官方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
一開始是要宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
可是到了一個期間之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5914.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
因為這次其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5914.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
中東的戰事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5916.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
也讓很多國人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5916.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5918.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
這個有登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5918.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
也可以保平安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5920.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
那另外一個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5920.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
是跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5922.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
可以保守平安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5922.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
登錄以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5924.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
因為這個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5924.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
就是到最後聯繫的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5926.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
我們比較知道怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5926.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
其實不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
因為你如果不是發生在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5930.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
中東 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5930.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
因為部長我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
就是因為我們資源很有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5934.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5934.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
我們一直認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
與其要花在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5938.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
領事事務局那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5938.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
不是說護照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5940.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
要做沒錢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5940.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
要把它放在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5944.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
我們特別要提出來是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5944.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5946.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
如果發生這樣的事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5946.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
我們其實讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
讓國人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5950.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
應該尋找什麼樣的窗口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5950.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5952.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
因為這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5952.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
我們比較擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
另外還有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
因為我們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5956.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
它好像沒有太大的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5956.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5957.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
另外一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5957.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5959.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5959.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5961.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
我們台灣的詐騙橫行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5961.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5963.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
國際也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5964.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
也不只台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5964.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
可是這樣的詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
是因為它有很多的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
是很容易取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
或者被拿到了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
其實大概就做這些使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5975.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
所以這個活動推動以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5975.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5977.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
我們國人出國登錄的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5977.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
到底有提升多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5980.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
這個是有提升了11倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5980.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
這個以去年是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
6萬7千多人每個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
那我剛剛講委員把它講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5988.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
外交部本來跟交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5988.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
尤其是觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5990.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
因為他們跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5990.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5992.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
這個是團體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5992.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5993.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
這個好好的來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5993.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
他們透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
這個管道的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
可能效果會很快的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
6000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我們掌握旅行社就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
6000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
6002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
因為旅行社有最全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
6002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
6003.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
因為我萬一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
6003.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
6004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
我一團三四個人去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
6004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
6005.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
我只有兩個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
6005.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
6006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
或是讓你一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
6006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
6007.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
15個人登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
6007.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
6008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
還有15個人沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
6008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
6010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
所以你在旅行社上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
6010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
6012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
你會有最完整的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
6012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
6013.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
只要他出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
6013.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
6014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
他到那個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
6014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
6016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
你所有的你都要通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
6016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
6017.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
我們馬上可以知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
6017.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
6019.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
所以就在海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
6019.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
6020.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
6020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
6022.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
旅行社其實可以掌握所有資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
6022.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
6023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
因為我們怕說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
6023.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
6024.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
你國人參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
6024.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
6025.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
這樣的登錄的資料的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
6025.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
6026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
活動結束以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
6026.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
6028.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
他會不會被徹底的銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
6028.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
6030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
然後這些資料外流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
6030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
6032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
或不當利用的風險評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
6032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
6033.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
跟防範機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
6033.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
6034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
我們到底有沒有做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
6034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
6036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
因為你這個只是一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
6036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
6038.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
這樣子的一個登錄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
6038.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
6039.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
的行為而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
6039.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
6040.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
所以你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
6040.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
6042.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
資安的管理的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
6042.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
6043.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
絕對不會很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
6043.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
6045.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
可是這個紀錄到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
6045.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
6047.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
你所有的去的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
6047.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
6049.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
你很詳細的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
6049.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
6050.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
其實全部在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
6050.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
6052.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
所以我們擔心的是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
6052.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
6054.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
如果我們任何一個政策提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
6054.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
6056.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
我們希望還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
6056.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
6058.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
對國人真的是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
6058.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
6059.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
對我們的政策是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
6059.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
6061.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
對我們的外交是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
6061.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
6064.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
那如果說有需要去改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
6064.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
6066.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
或者我們可以修正方向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
6066.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
6068.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
我們還是希望外交部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
6068.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
6070.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
可以去審慎的評估好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
6070.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
6072.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
好 我們的檢討這個經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
6072.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
6074.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
也會跨部會來協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
6074.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
6076.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
因為目標是要關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
6076.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
6077.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
跟協助國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
6077.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
6079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
協助國人萬一在戰爭或天然災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
6079.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
6081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
或是什麼樣的緊急應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
6081.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
6083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
所以這個抽獎只是一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
6083.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
6086.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
一開始也許為了要促銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
6086.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
6088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
宣導但是到了一個程度之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
6088.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
6090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
我想效果我們會來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
6090.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
6092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
方法上面怎麼去精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
6092.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
6093.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
因為我們一方面就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
6093.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
6094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
個資的這個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
6094.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
6095.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
因為我們還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
6095.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
6097.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
這個才是很重要的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
6097.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
6099.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
因為我們做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
6099.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
6101.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
幫這些國人他們提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
6101.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
6103.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
這麼詳細的資料以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
6103.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
6104.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
我們可以確保多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
6104.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
6106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
這個是我們可能要提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
6106.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
6108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
好 那就這個一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
6108.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
6110.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
我們希望未來有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
6110.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
6111.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
不管在預算上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
6111.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
6113.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
因為預算我們還是期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
6115.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
6117.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
我們中央政府就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
6117.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
6118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
我們在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
6118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
6120.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
其實他們也可以釋出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
6120.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
6122.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
這樣子的一個善意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
6122.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
6124.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
今天不是只要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
6124.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
6126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
在野黨應該要去通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
6126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
6127.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
怎麼樣的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
6127.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
6129.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
任何的預算其實大家都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
6129.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
6131.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
可以好好的去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
6131.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
6133.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
可是當很重要的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
6133.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
6135.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
通過這樣子相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
6135.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
6137.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
法律或者應該要編列的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
6137.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
6138.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
沒有編 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
6138.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
6139.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
因為軍人的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
6139.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
6140.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
警消的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
6140.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
6142.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
其實事實上他就是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
6142.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
6144.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
他不管對內對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
6144.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
6146.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
他都是站在第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
6146.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
6148.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
這些執勤的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
6148.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
6149.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
或者所有服務的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
6149.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
6151.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
如果他們沒有受到照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
6151.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
6153.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
我們政府其他說非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
6153.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
6155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
根本都是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
6155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
6156.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
所以就這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
6156.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
6157.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
我們也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
6157.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
6160.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
如果說政府願意釋出善意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
6160.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
6162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
其實沒有這麼多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
6162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
6163.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
6163.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
6164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
我們也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
6164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
6166.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
部長有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
6166.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
6167.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
也跟高層建議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
6167.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
6168.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
6168.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
6169.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
好 一起來努力 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
6177.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
6179.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
現在我們請王毅川委員來諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
6180.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
6181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
6189.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
6191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
主席請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
6191.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
6192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
6194 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
6195.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
6199.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
6200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
6200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
6201.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
6201.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
6203.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
剛聽到你說我在交通委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
6203.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
6205.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
我就是為了你來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
6205.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
6206.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
6206.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
6207.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
我這個會期就來這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
6207.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
6208.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
6209.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
6210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
這個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
6210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
6211.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
請交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
6212.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
6214.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
我們現在有十幾個友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
6215.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
6216.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
推薦一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
6217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
6220.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
我們如果國人要去友邦觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
6220.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6222.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
建議哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6222.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6224.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
我去過是去過帛琉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6224.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6226.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
那范棣岡也去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6226.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6228.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
其他國家我不熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6228.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6230.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
其他國家還有哪些國家是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6230.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6232.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
適合我們去觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6232.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
因為您當過交通局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
對於觀光很熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
我也當過交通部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6240.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
對觀光也了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6240.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6243.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
我認為我們有12個邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6243.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6244.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
當然也還有像友好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6244.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
6246.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
像索馬利蘭等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
6246.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
6247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
如果說邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
6247.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
6249.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
我認為要區塊化的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
6249.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
6251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
一個當然是拉丁美洲有7個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
6251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
6253.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
那其中瓜貝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
6255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
6256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
瓜地馬拉跟貝里斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
6256.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
6257.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
是中美洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
6257.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
6258.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
所以我們很常去L.A. |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
6258.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
6261.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
或是去佛羅里達這些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
6261.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
6263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
我認為可以延長到瓜貝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
6263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
6266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
因為是很不一樣的兩個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
6266.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
6268.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
一個英語系一個西班牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
6268.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
6270.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
第二個我要講的是山盛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
6270.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
6273.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
盛沐西亞盛文森 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
6273.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
6275.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
盛克里斯多夫尼維斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
6275.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
6277.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
另外一個是南美洲可以單獨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
6277.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
6279.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
巴拉圭確實南美有另外的風貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
6279.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
6282.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
再來當然是太平洋三個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
6282.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
6283.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
你不錯你總介紹完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
6283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
6286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
我想說你會獨厚哪幾個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
6286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
6288.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
12個就好group |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
6288.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
6290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我是建議這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
6290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
6293.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
外交部把這12個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
6293.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
6296.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
也幫他們做個觀光檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
6297.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
6299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
讓我們的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
6299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
6301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
想要去友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
6301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
6302.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
也知道要去哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
6302.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
6304.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
去哪裡轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
6304.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
6306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
安排看旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
6306.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
6308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
有沒有要辦這種團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
6308.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
6311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
我們就友邦來友邦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
6311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
6312.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
不去觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
6312.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
6314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
都去投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
6314.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
6316.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
觀光也是一種消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
6316.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
6317.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
6317.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
6318.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
6318.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
6320.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
我們補充一下港雄服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
6320.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
6322.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
我們去年台北國際旅遊展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
6322.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
6326.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
已經幫他們設那個攤位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
6326.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
6329.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
另外一個確實包括像熊獅等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
6329.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
6331.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
他們現在就是從L.A. |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
6331.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
6335.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
準備要染客到貝里斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
6335.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
6336.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
我也建議他們瓜地馬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
6336.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
6338.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
所以我們會跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
6338.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
6339.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
也事實上有一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
6339.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
6341.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
不過您剛講那個測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
6341.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
6345.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
或怎麼樣我們能夠透過我們的網頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
6345.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
6346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
還有各方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
6346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
6347.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
其實我們很多的促銷活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
6347.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
6349.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
瓜地馬拉的咖啡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
6349.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
6352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
或是巴拉圭的牛肉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
6352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
6355.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
剛才馬文君委說的登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
6355.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
6357.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
登錄抽獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
6357.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
6359.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
如果去友邦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
6359.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
6361.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
蓋滿12個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
6361.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
6363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
抽獎的比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
6363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
6365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
登錄去友邦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
6365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
6366.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
我們有友邦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
6366.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
6368.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
那就會鼓勵大家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
6368.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
6371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
集滿12個印章 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
6371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
6373.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
集滿12個是你的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
6374.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
6375.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
6375.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
6376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
6376.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
6380.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
南韓最近為了電子入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
6380.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
6382.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
卡的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
6382.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
6384.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
港外交部也有一些反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
6384.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
6386.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
現在又傳出包括丹麥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
6387.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6389.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
6389.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6391.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
不管你怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6391.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6393.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
或者是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6393.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
6395.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
設計系統的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
6395.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
6397.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
在用的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
6397.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
6398.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
6398.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
6400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
國家的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
有一點要把我們矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
外交部也做了一些相對應的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
這當然軟硬兼施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
6408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6409.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
也不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6409.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6411.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
直接要怎麼安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6411.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
現在進度怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
跟國人講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6415.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
當然最近因為各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
電子化政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6417.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
因為有些不同的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
比如說可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
簽證是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
然後另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
護證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
或其他的相關的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
但他現在電子化之後就產生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6432.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6433.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
就是要一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6433.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6434.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
他內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6434.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6436.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
這個時候我們都要去交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6436.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6438.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
也有一些國家發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6438.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6441.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
因為這個樣子沒有辦法允許我們用原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6441.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6442.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
但是我們除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6442.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6444.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
表示我們的立場以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6444.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6445.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
繼續積極交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6445.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6447.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
因此而改變的國家也很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6447.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6449.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
但是你剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6449.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6450.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
所謂南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6450.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6451.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6451.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6453.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
我們是有跟他交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6453.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6454.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
因為他去年2月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6454.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6456.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
就是用電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6456.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6458.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
所以我們就必須要在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6458.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6460.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
跟他很 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6460.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6463.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
交涉就是反映我們的立場以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6463.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6465.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
我想他們已經有聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6465.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6467.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
至於對等跟尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6467.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6469.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
我們要有一些作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6469.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6471.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
比如你剛剛提到丹麥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6471.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6472.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
因為是兩年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6472.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
突然間他們的外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6474.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6476.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
這樣的一個改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6478.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
造成了我們被矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6480.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6481.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
那我們當然就交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6481.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6483.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
也透過G7國家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6483.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6484.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
那我們也相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6486.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6487.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
對等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6487.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6489.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
我們都降低他在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6489.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6490.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
外交的特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6490.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6492.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
南非也是這樣子處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6492.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6494.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
我覺得外交就是秉持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6494.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
國家的主權跟國民的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6500.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
這樣子來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6500.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6502.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
對外事務的交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6502.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6504.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
第三個我今天看這個報告裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6504.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6506.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
一期都沒有寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6506.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6508.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
卓院長去日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6509.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6511.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
設施人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6512.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6513.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
設施人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6513.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6514.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
所以你都不要寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6515.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6517.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
我是放在台日關係友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6517.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
交流到底包括這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
藍一來對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
因為副總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6523.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
消副總統去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6523.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
你們有特別寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6525.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
這樣就交你有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6527.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
交外交部有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6528.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6529.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
消副總統那一攤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6529.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6531.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
就跟外交部有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6532.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6534.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
都有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
都有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6535.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6537.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
設施人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6539.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
下去去外交部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6539.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6541.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
看起來也怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6541.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6542.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6542.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6543.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6543.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6544.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6544.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6546.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
我很怕你把卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6546.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6547.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
施人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6547.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6549.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
施人行程可以寫一領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6549.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6550.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
交外施人行程你也要寫一領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6551.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6552.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
它是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6552.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6554.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
外交上的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6554.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6555.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
這個是必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6555.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6557.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
很清楚的肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6558.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6559.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6559.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6561.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
運動外交也是我們很重要的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6561.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6564.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
最後跟你談一下這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6564.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
中東這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
政經的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
我們有一些旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6571.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
在那裡的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6571.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
網路上就出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6576.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
有一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6576.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6577.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6578.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6581.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
我們想說剛才馬文正跟我們說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6581.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6583.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6583.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6586.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
要去坐中國的才可以回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6586.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6587.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
中國一直在載人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6587.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6589.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
我們都沒有在載人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6589.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
就一直在等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
中華民國是在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6595.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
外交部是在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6595.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
旅行團去到中東 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6599.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
它可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6600 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6602 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6602 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6604 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
有可能是去那裡工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6604 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6606 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
有些人是要回台灣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6606 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6608 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
有些人是剛出發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6608 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6610 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
就類似上次去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6610 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6611 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
阿布達比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6611 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6613 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
劉建國委員是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6613 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6615 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
是團隊分立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6615 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6617 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
阿布達比去轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6617 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6618 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
還有一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6618 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6619 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
他的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6619 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6620 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6620 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6621 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6621 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6623 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
劉建國從頭到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6623 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6625 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
聽說都打電話給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6625 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6626 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
叫外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6626 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6627 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
到三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6627 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6629 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
那時候的那些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
我相信當時在阿布達比那裡的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
我們的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6632.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
也都很積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6634.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
在處理這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6636.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6637.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6638.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
中東這麼多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6638.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6639.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6639.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6641.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
叫觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6641.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6642.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
因為這有的人才是旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6642.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6644.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
旅行團你怎麼改班機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6644.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6645.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
叫他換地方坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6645.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6646.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
走路到別的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6646.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6648.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
離開那個地方跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6648.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6649.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
要去歐洲玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6649.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6651.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
這牽扯到觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6651.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6652.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
牽扯到外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6652.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6654.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
各式各樣的狀況都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6654.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6655.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
你要不要跟大家講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6655.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6656.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6656.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6657.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
醫療要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6657.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6658.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
我看你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6658.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6660.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
你有一個處長的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6660.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6661.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
車開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6661.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6663.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
還在那裡開去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6663.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6664.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
去其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6664.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6665.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
到三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6665.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6666.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
台灣人也很感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6666.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6668.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
醫療要精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6668.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6669.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6669.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6670.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6670.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6671.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6671.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
外交部就很像台灣的阿信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6674.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
我們在外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6675.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6676.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
111的外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6676.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
很多外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6677.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6678.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
沒有外交特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6678.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
我們拼死拼活 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
就是要服務國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
但是剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
有些旅行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6685 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6686 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
那個團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6686 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6687 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
他要玩完才要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6688.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6689.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6689.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6690.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6690.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6691.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
有將近 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6691.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6692.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6692.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6693.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
都是後述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6693.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
後面轉機的團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6695.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
不是原來在當地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6695.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
因為他那個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6697.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
怕出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6697.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6699.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
要去杜拜轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6699.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6700.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
都回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6700.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6701.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
他可能九十幾萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6701.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6702.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
要去歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6702.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6703.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
九十幾萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6703.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6704.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
你跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6704.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6705.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
阿嬤你回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6705.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
九十幾萬回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
誰要背我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6708.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
旅行社說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6708.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
我沒辦法背 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6710.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
現在也沒空背 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6710.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
不然你又住飯店 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6712.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
又住兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6712.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6714.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
越住就越緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6714.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
可能他住在飯店旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6716.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
附近你很住 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
都崩了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6718.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6719.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6719.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6720.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
有可能這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6720.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6721.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6721.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6722.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6722.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6724.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
包括平保協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6724.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6726.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
現在當日的規定當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6726.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6727.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
外交部到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6727.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6729.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
你們的合作關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6729.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6730.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
因為國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6730.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6731.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
包括他們的家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6731.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6732.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
一家都會歡樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6732.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6733.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
都有團聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6733.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6735.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
我們在外面外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6735.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6737.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
怎麼都沒在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6737.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
團的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6738.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6739.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
可能裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6739.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6740.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
一團20個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6740.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6741.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
有5個說我要回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6741.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6742.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
我們不去玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6742.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6743.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
有5個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6743.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6744.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
我們還要繼續玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6744.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6745.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
20個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6745.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
我們還在這裡等一會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6746.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6747.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
這你們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6747.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6748.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6748.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
這個時候腳說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
這就是九娃心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6752.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6753.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6753.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6754.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6754.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6755.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
就是人家找外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6755.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6756.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
也不會分你哪個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6756.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6757.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6757.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6759.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
行政院的機制很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6759.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6760.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
比如說你剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6760.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6761.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
這個觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6761.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6763.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
你掌握旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6763.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6764.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
像 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6764.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6765.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
我有當過交通部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6765.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6766.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
你跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6766.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6767.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
協調出一個好的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6767.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6768.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
旅行社很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6768.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6769.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
你很好做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6771.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6772.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
我們這邊是在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6772.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
有些都入籍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6775.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
比如說我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6775.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
阿聯酋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6777.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
我們在杜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6777.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6779.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
結果他是阿布達比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6779.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
這邊轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6782.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
我們的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
只冒著槍林待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
還開車去救人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6789.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
張司強那個雲林 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6789.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
就是這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6791.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
所以我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6791.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
大家去了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6793.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
我們這個在中東的處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6793.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
是特別困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
所以當然我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6797.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
政府是一體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6797.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6801.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6801.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
有一些值得我們可以再檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6805.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
怎麼去精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6805.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
像以色列就做得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6807.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
因為以色列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6807.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
面對戰爭不是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6809.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
我們那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6809.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6811.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6811.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6813.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
他是陪著我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6813.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6814.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
那個國人要撤離的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6818.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
是是是躲那個飛彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6819.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6821.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
然後還在高下橋下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6821.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6823.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
那個影片看來你會不會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6823.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6824.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
很心酸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6824.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6825.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
國語 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6825.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6827.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
馬文君委說一個很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6827.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6828.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
這個你要繼續推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6828.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6829.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
你還當過交通部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6829.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6831.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
你說我們這個旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6831.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6832.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
出機的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6832.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6833.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6834.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6835.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
現在全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6835.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6837.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
到底現在多少台灣旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6837.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6838.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
一國無一國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6838.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6839.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
我們來觀光處現在也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6840.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6841.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
我還可以這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6841.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6842.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
有整團就整個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6844.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
現在此時此刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6844.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6846.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
在外面的旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6846.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6848.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
因為我們沒有登陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6848.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
現在還有人要去杜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6851.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6853.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
這幾天旅行團有些還要出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6853.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6854.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
因為我看你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6854.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
外交部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6856.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
要大家自己的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6858.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6859.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
外交部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6859.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6860.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
政府是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6860.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6861.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
是盡力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6861.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
但是也是有限的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6863.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
就是說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6863.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6864.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
可能因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6864.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6865.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
大家說我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6865.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
如果這樣討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6866.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6867.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
現在中東局勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6867.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
國人在問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6868.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6869.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6869.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6871.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
到底有多少旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6871.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6872.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6872.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6873.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6873.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6875.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
恐怕又要去問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6875.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6876.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
我想你可能要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6876.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6877.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
旅行全聯會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6877.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6879.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
不然就連平保協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6879.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6881.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
我跟觀光處可能也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6881.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6882.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6882.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6883.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
這個公協會很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6883.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6884.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
所以我意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6884.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6886.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
我們政府就掌握情報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6886.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6887.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
然後提供資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6887.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6889.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
每一個人都要因地制宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6889.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6891.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
讓他有路可走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6891.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
所以剛剛那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6892.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6895.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
馬文君這個召委提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6895.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6898.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
你那個資訊要給他做選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6898.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6899.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
比如說也有中國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6899.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6901.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
跟我們的團一起回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6901.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6903.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
也有我們的人因為轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6903.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
就是飛去上海 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6906.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
這個在救人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6906.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6908.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
這個優先的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6908.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6910.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
我們都是不分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6910.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6912.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
國家、種族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6912.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6913.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
大家都一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6913.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6915.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
這個人道救援 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6915.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6916.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
像我們講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6916.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6918.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
所謂的撤僑或護僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6918.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
國際也很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6921.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
比如說台海的局勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6921.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6923.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
這個就是我們共同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6924.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6925.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6925.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
也是我們政府都要照顧人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6927.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6928.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
所以這個不分彼此 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6928.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6930.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
所以反而是我們外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6930.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6931.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
很重要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6931.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6933.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
可以說撤僑跟護僑的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6933.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6935.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
這個我們當然是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6935.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6936.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
好好去精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6936.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6937.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
不斷的去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6937.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6938.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
所以剛才說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6938.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6940.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
比如說他現在要離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6940.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6942.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
有日本的飛機坐日本飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6942.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6943.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
有台灣的坐台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6943.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6945.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
有中國的坐中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6945.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6947.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
這外交部也要去跟他一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6947.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6948.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6948.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6949.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6949.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6950.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
他的選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6950.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6952.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
對他最好他才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6952.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
中國的飛機你不能坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6954.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6955.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6955.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
沒有這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6956.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6957.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
比如說他願 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6957.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6959.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
這個包機、飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6959.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6961.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
反正可以離開那個區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6962.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6965.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
基本上國人安全是最優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6965.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6966.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6966.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6968.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6968.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6970.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
你們什麼撤離多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6970.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6972.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
人數每天在統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6972.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6974.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
我覺得時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6974.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6976.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
你們大概慢了一兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6976.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6978.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
就是人在問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6978.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6980.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
你們才開始慢慢出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6980.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
包括電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
就類似這樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6984.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
可能一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6984.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
國人第一天第二天就開始緊張的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
外交部以後要主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
我們會檢討這一次整個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
現在戰爭還在發生中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
我為了主持視訊會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
我要求往前去檢討之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6999.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6999.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
得出改進的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7002.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
團在那裡的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7002.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7004.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
我知道沒有那個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7004.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7006.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
歐洲團、非洲團 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7006.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
還有中東團 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
台灣人出國的實力很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7012.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
就是說國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7012.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
可能旅行團的家人是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7016.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
你這個訊息發出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7016.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7018.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
可能家人傳去那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7018.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
外交部現在當到有什麼困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7022.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
打開一支電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7022.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7024.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
這樣就會可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7024.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7028.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
主動然後提早看完就趕快做這個發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7028.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7030.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
讓這個訊息更完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7030.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7032.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
我們會進入整個資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7032.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7033.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
通報等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7033.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7034.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7037.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7038.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7041.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7043.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
我們說的是世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7043.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7045.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
大家在那個環境底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7045.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7048.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
大概面臨的狀況都會是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7048.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7050.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
所以我們精進的座位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7050.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7053.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
還是希望可以有更多的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7053.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7056.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
有效的一個資訊提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7056.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7059.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
接下來請徐巧芯委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7070.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7071.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7071.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7073.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
我們有請林佳龍林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7073.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7074.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7080.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7081.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7082.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
我想先問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7082.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7085.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
你知道台灣GD是誰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7087.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7089.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
有人笑就是你們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7089.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7091.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
你們果然是外交部的專業同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7091.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
不會是你們取的吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7093.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7095.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
他們有時候這樣叫我是有點害羞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7095.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7097.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
OK OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7097.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
因為你是GOOD DRAGON嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7101.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
有人這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7101.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
有人這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7103.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
但我不敢去沾光 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7103.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
這不是我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7105.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
OK OK 了解了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7105.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7106.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
但是因為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7106.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7109.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
我想您對韓國應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7109.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7111.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
很了解也很有善才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7111.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
對 我很多好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
從學術界到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7116.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
那但我也要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7116.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
就是說從今天開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7120.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
我們要如何來稱呼韓國呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7121.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
南韓嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
好 南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
那麼我們要從整個事件開始講起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
是在去年12月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
南韓的電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7134.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
把台灣寫成這個Taiwan China之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7134.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
引起很大的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
那在這個事件出來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7138.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
我們外交部的第一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7140.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
應該是跟南韓這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
相關的外交部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
來做聯繫跟溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7146.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
希望他們能夠做調整 對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7148.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7150.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
對方是給予我們樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7150.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7151.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
就是在交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7151.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7153.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
我們先講交涉的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7153.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7154.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
那對方是給予我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7154.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7155.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
什麼樣的一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7155.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7157.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
他們本來是2月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7157.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7158.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
就要統一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7158.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7159.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
就沒有紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7159.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7160.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
統一什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7160.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7163.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
就是那個入境那個電子卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7163.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7164.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
電子卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7164.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7165.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
就以前還可以用手寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7165.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7167.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
統一的話就變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7167.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7168.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
都是寫Taiwan China的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7168.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7170.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
就是都用電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7170.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7171.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
對啊 電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7171.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7172.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
不允許你用手寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7172.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7173.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7173.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7174.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
現在他們延後了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7174.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7177.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
他們現在還是沒有說要合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7177.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7178.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
是 但是沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7178.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7179.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
因為你電子入境卡上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7179.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7180.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
Taiwan China |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7180.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7181.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
有被做任何的修正嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7181.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7182.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
他們在這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7182.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7183.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
那表示說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7183.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7184.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
我們跟他交涉之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7184.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7185.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
我們去年底交涉之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7185.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7186.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
他2月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7186.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
本來是要整合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
就先放著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
那我問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
那你們去交涉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7193.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
你們只是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7193.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
這個分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7195.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
讓我有兩種選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7195.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7196.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
還是你們是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7196.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7198.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
你交涉的是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7198.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
南韓電子入境卡的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
不要寫Taiwan China |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7203.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7203.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
那你剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7205.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
那只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7205.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
就是一種備案而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7207.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
實際上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7207.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
我們主要訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
人家沒有接受啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
他們現在在處理中啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7211.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
他說他們有了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7213.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7214.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
我們的立場啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7214.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
然後他們也在這個研究啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
好 等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7217.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7218.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
我會再跟你進一步討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7218.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
你說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7219.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7220.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
他們 您剛的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7220.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
我們一個一個來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7221.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
他們現在正在處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7223.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
要把南韓電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7225.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
上面寫的Taiwan China |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7227.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7229.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
用其他的方式表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7229.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
您的意思是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7231.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
對 他們就是正在研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7231.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
正在研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7233.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
那他有告訴你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7233.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
要研究多久嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7235.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
他們有一個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7235.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7236.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
有一個期程嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7236.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7237.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
總是要有一個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
不然我永遠都在研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
研究100年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7241.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
結果委員今天的質詢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7241.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
我想他們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7243.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
沒有 我沒有那麼偉大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7243.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7245.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
我不是台灣GD |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7246.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
我沒那麼厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7248.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
好 沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7248.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7250.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
那但是南韓的媒體卻指出呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7250.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7252.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
在南韓的官方文件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7252.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
一直都是用Taiwan China |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
來標註台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7257.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
那這個政府20多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7257.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
包含這個其中也有8年是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7260.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
蔡英文總統的執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7260.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7262.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
他說我們都沒有提出異議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7262.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
南韓的媒體這樣子報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
是有符合事實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7268.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
還是過去其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7268.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7270.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
我們有經過多次的抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7270.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7272.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
但對方沒有去做改善呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7273.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
這個是確實韓國一直這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7276.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
但是它現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7277.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
就是所謂的目的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7279.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7282.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
跟它旅遊的上一站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7282.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7285.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
把它用成China 掛號台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7285.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7286.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
所以這個是新制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7287.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7288.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
對啊 就是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7288.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7289.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
新制是從什麼時候開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7289.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7290.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
因為它要電子化嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7290.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7291.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
所以就是要整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7291.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7294.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
沒有 整合是它原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7294.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7295.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
本來有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7295.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
但它就是有兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7296.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7297.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
你剛剛講的有兩種辦法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7297.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
但現在本來要改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7300.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
只有一種辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7300.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7302.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
那我先不談紙本的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7302.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
我針對的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7304.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
電子入境的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7304.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7306.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
那南韓的媒體它的報導是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7306.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7308.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
因為如果南韓媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7308.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
講的是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
那我覺得我們也有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
在這裡公開告訴他們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7312.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
你們這樣報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7312.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
是不是實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7314.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
那他們的說法是說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7314.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7316.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
南韓的電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7316.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7317.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
不講紙本喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7317.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7318.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
一直以來都是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7318.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7320.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
這樣的一個方式去做標註 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7320.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7321.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
那你們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7321.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7322.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
還是我們20多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7322.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7323.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7323.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7324.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
現在突然對我有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7324.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7325.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
過去都有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7325.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7326.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
只是沒有像我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7326.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7327.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
這麼樣的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7327.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7329.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
直接有力的表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7329.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7330.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
懂你的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7330.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7332.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
所以就是說過去確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7332.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7333.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
有提出意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7333.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7335.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
但是林佳龍部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7335.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7336.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
是對於這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7336.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7338.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
最強而有力去表達的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7338.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7339.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
這樣講對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7339.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7341.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
因為他去年2月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7341.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7343.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
就在我上任外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7343.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7344.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
然後他要把它整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7344.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7345.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
那整合就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7345.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7347.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
連這個空間都沒有的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7347.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
我們當然要表達立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
他也聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
他也暫緩了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
現在三一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
但我們不能等他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
因為他暫緩我們就不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7356.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
我們該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7356.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
所以我們該做的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
所謂的反制措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7360.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
也不是反制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7360.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
就是如實的紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7362.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7362.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7364.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
我們反制措施是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7364.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
韓僑居留證改成南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7368.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
那原本是怎麼寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7368.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
現在改成怎麼寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7370.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
跟大家說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7370.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7371.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
這是第一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7371.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7373.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
因為他們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7373.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7376.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
其實南韓政府曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7376.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7377.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
跟我們拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7377.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
就是以前最早的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7380.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7381.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
都用南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7381.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7383.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
後來變成韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7383.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7385.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
然後現在我們就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7385.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7386.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
你這樣子對我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7386.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7388.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
那我也要再叫你南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7388.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7389.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
現在就Colea |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7389.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
括號Sausage |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7391.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
所以他給我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7394.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7395.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
對不起 校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7395.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
China括號台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7397.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
所以我給你 |
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7397.01 |
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7399.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
Colea括號Sausage |
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7399.01 |
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7400.01 |
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你是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7400.01 |
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是對等跟尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7401.01 |
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7402.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
對等跟尊嚴 |
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7402.01 |
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好有底氣 |
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那再來就是說 |
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7408.01 |
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他們電子的不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7408.01 |
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7409.01 |
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我們改用紙本 |
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7409.01 |
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7411.01 |
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那這個也是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7411.01 |
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7412.01 |
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我們反制行為的一環嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7412.01 |
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7413.01 |
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應該是說 |
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7413.01 |
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7414.01 |
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我們交涉啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7414.01 |
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7415.01 |
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我們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7415.01 |
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7416.01 |
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我們是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7416.01 |
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7417.01 |
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這個東西能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7417.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7418.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
大家有一個解決的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7418.01 |
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7420.01 |
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他也說聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7420.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7422.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
他也暫緩把它整合了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7422.01 |
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7423.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
所以這個就有時間來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7423.05 |
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7424.05 |
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但是我們3月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7424.05 |
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7425.05 |
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因為是基於超支在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7425.05 |
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7426.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
我們的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7426.05 |
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7427.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7427.05 |
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7428.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
我想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7428.05 |
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7429.05 |
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我們用了哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7429.05 |
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7431.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
我們用了哪一些的手段方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7431.05 |
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7433.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
然後去宣傳說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7433.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7434.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
大家不要用電子入鏡卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7434.05 |
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7435.05 |
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都要用紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7435.05 |
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7436.05 |
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沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7436.05 |
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7437.05 |
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就是有這個選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7437.05 |
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7439.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
至少還維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7439.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7441.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
有些人想用台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7441.05 |
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7442.05 |
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可是你有建議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7442.05 |
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7443.05 |
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還可以用台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7443.05 |
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7444.05 |
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那你有沒有建議嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7444.05 |
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7445.05 |
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因為這也是報導報的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7445.05 |
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7446.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
就3月4號報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7446.05 |
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7447.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
如果它就電子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7447.05 |
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7448.05 |
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就沒有這個空間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7448.05 |
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7449.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
對 這個你剛剛講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7449.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7450.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
我現在講的是說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7450.05 |
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7452.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
因為現在有電子的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7452.09 |
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7453.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
然後跟紙本的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7453.09 |
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7455.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
那外交部是否有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7455.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
國人不要使用電子入鏡卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
而改填紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7461.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
這個報導的這個標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7461.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7462.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
是否屬實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7462.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
有一點稍微有點不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7465.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
那具體是怎麼樣呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7465.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7467.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
現在就是兩字很並行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7467.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7469.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
那如果說對於China |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7469.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7470.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
括號Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7470.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
我們有些國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7473.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
他很有他的立場啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7473.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7475.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
他有另外一個選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7475.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7476.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7476.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7477.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
所以你沒有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7477.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7478.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
他要改紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7478.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7480.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
只是說如果你個人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7480.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7482.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
那你不想要用這個方式的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7482.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7483.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
那你就填紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7483.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7485.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
對 這個人的層次是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7485.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7486.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7486.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7487.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
那在國家的層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7487.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7489.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
我跟他交涉就是基於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7489.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7491.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
你必須要尊重台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7491.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7492.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
然後用可識別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7492.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7493.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
最簡單就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7493.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7494.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
這個我清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7494.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7496.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
那剛剛講到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7496.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7497.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
那我們現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7497.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7499.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
就要把這個喬韓的拘留著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7499.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7501.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
你說以前我們叫你南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7501.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7502.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
現在後來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7502.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7503.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
這個韓國政府請託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7503.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7504.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
我們就叫你韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7504.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7505.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
好 那現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7505.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7507.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
我要把你改回這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7507.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7509.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
Korea括號Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7509.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7511.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
Korea括號造死南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7511.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7513.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
那部長您今天介紹媒體訪問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7513.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7515.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
你覺得這個會有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7515.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7516.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
而是有效在哪個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7516.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7518.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
可不可以再具體幫我們解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7518.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7520.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
就是說你們是怎麼評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7520.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7522.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
評估它會有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7522.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7524.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
那有效是有什麼效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7524.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
有沒有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
當然我們先表達我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7528.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
交涉中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7528.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7530.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
他也聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7530.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
也做了初步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
先暫緩合併這個紙本跟電子卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7536.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
但是呢進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7536.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7538.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
我們也設定了一個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7538.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
3月11號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
我們希望說他有具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
他得出來到底研究的結果是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
所以他有跟您定一個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7546.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
沒有 我們定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7546.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
我們給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7547.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7548.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
我們裝設的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7548.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7549.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
給他一個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7549.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
我們下一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7552.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
3月31號會有進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7552.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
我們的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7554.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
OK OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7554.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
都有先知會他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7556.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7556.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
我們給對方的deadline |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
叫做3月11號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7560.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
那如果3月11號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7560.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7562.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
對方就是還是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7562.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7564.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7564.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7566.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
對 因為我講11號已經過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7566.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7567.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7567.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7569.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
所以我們給對方一個deadline |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7569.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7571.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
叫做3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7571.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7573.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
那如果對方還是依然顧我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7573.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
沒有把韓國的入境標示卡去做調整的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7577.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
我們還要再有進一步的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7579.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7580.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7580.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7582.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
那你們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7582.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7583.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
我不問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7583.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
因為給你到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7585.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
給你到時候時間宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7585.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
這個我就不直接去問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7587.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7588.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
反正3月31號之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7588.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
我們就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7589.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7590.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
但是總之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7590.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
你們已經準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7594.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
新一波的這個反制作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7594.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7595.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
等到3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7595.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
不如我們預期說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7596.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7597.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
我們要推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7597.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7598.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7598.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7599.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
我們交涉中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7599.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7600.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
當然我們相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7600.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7602.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
對方已經有表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7602.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7603.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
他有知道我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7603.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7605.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
對方有沒有成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7605.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7606.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
我還不是很確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7606.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7607.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
你這個也不是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7607.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7608.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
講說成功就成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7608.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7610.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7610.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7611.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
所言勝事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7611.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7612.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
因為這種外交的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7612.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7613.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
都不是台灣人能夠學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7613.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
因為很難講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7615.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
因為我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7615.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
這個給大家看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7617.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7617.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7619.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
今天我要來跟部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7619.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7620.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7620.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7622.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
雖然你是這個台灣GD |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7622.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7623.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
但你不見得有在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7623.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
不見得有在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
韓國的這個論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7627.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7627.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7629.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
FM Korea網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7629.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
它是韓國的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7632.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
大型的中和網路社團 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7632.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7633.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
就有點像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7633.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
像我們的PTT |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7635.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
或是Dcard |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7635.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
那他們因為台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7637.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7639.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
祭出這樣的一個措施之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7639.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7640.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
其實給予了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7640.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7642.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
對台灣的這個負面評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7642.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7644.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
那裡面當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7644.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7645.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
我們台灣有這個網友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7645.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7647.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
講話有時候比較酸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7647.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7649.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
然後可能比較直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7649.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7650.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
那韓國當然也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7650.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7651.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
這個世界各國的公民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7651.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7652.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7652.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7653.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7653.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7655.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
比如我一個一個念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7655.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7656.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
部長你不要建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7656.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7657.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
這部我寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7657.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7659.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
一 完全沒有打擊感 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7659.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7661.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
二 不是說南韓嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7661.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7662.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
英文標示的是South Korea |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7662.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7663.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
那又怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7663.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7664.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
改了又怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7664.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7665.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
背景那些也改了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7665.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7666.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
他們發表的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7666.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7668.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
不是也是中國台灣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7668.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7670.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
完全沒被戳到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7670.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7671.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
干我什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7671.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7672.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
連對中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7672.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7674.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
都不敢坑一聲的傢伙們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7674.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7675.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
那是一樣的道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7675.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7677.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
哈哈 你想做什麼就做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7677.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7679.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
就算是倒台灣那邊的傢伙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7679.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7681.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
說到骨子裡還是中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7681.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7682.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
當天真爆發的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7682.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7683.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
你們終究還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7683.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
得向別人尋求協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7685.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
但你們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7685.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7687.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
你們現在的態度正確嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7687.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7688.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
我念這些的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7688.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7689.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7689.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7691.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
我們在做這個調整之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7691.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7693.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
對於韓國的民眾來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7693.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7695.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
似乎對台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7695.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7698.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
開始產生一些敵意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7698.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7699.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
而且這一些的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7699.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7700.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7700.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
這個是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7701.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7703.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
中國大陸的這個認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7703.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
或是中共的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7705.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7706.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
然後在那邊寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7706.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
這個基本上韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7707.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7708.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
很多民眾確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7708.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7709.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
就我們想嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7709.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7710.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
你這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7710.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
報告委員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
這個是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7714.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
韓國的民意我充分掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7714.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7715.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
你意思說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7715.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7716.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
這上面的人都是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7716.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
韓國人跟新民旗下人都很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7718.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
基於對等尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7718.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7719.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
尊重台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7719.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7720.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
用我們的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7720.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
你怎麼知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7722.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
是誰告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7722.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
或是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7724.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
我都有搜尋資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7724.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7726.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
後來中共大陸的大力的介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7726.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7728.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
開始發動網路作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7728.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
認知戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7730.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
所以有一些啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7730.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7732.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
想要去扭曲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7732.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
其實這件事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7734.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
相對來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7734.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7736.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
其實是很清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7736.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
我們就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7738.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
你幫我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7738.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7740.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
就是變成中國台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7740.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
這個事情我們有意見嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7741.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
所以基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7744.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
大部分的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7744.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7745.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
都是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7745.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7746.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
包括韓國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7746.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7747.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
你怎麼知道大部分的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7747.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7748.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
都是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7748.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7749.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
南韓的人也都很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7749.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7750.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
你怎麼知道他們都是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7750.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7752.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
我有在搜尋啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7752.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7753.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
我有大陸去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7753.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7755.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
但是後來因為有一波 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7755.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7757.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
大量的認知作戰進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7757.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7758.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
所以你認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7758.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7759.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
洗過了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7759.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7760.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
所以你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7760.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7761.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
因為不能講說是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7761.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7762.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
因為這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7762.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7763.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
他可能是真的有這個障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7763.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7765.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
確實在論壇上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7765.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7767.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
那個不講我要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7767.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
確實在論壇上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7768.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7769.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
有這樣的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7769.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
但是你可以認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7770.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7772.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
這一些討論是來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7772.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7774.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
你認為是中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7774.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7775.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
他們來做的認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7775.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7776.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
他們有卡寶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7776.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7777.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
那你不能講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7777.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7778.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
這個是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7778.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7779.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
因為我今天不可能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7779.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7780.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
沒有出現東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7780.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7781.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
我自己做一個假的論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7781.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7782.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
然後我來這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7782.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7784.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
然後跟你實施一個假的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7784.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7785.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
我只是問你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7785.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7787.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
為什麼他們會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7787.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7788.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
這樣子的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7788.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7789.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7789.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
部長您的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7791.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7791.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7792.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
南韓的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7792.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7793.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
其實是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7793.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7795.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
我們現在的反制作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7795.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7796.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
然後甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7796.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7798.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
因此要求希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7798.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
他們的政府能夠去改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7800.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7802.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
他的電子入境卡的標示方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7802.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7803.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
而在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7803.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7805.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
這一些論壇上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7805.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7808.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
有不同意見的韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7808.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
所謂的韓國民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7812.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
是因為中共他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7812.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7814.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
透過認知作戰介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7814.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7815.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
所以才會有的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7815.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7816.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7816.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7817.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
我跟委員簡單講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7817.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7818.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7818.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7819.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
以及我們先前掌握的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7819.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7820.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
其實大部分人是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7820.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7821.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7821.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7823.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
就尊重台灣的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7823.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7825.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
但是後來確實有介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7825.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
這個境外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
這個部分不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7831.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
而是說他有網路作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7831.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
在操作中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那最後就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7835.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
台灣的媒體也有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7835.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7836.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
因為我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7836.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
因為我比較實事求是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7838.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
所以我是直接去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7838.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7840.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
南韓的這個網站上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7840.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
去看他們的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
但是在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
我們也有許多的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7846.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
他們的報導是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7846.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
比如我隨便找一篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7850.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
叫做外交部被嗆爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7850.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
反制韓國改稱南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7854.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
遭韓網集體狂酸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7854.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7855.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
自卑作祟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7855.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7856.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
這些就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7856.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
台灣媒體的標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
那你有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
想要跟台灣媒體說的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7861.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
因為如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7861.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7863.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
這個是一個中共的認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7863.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
那台灣的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7865.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
也跟進報導的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7865.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
那是不是也被認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
有時候不小心會被他利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
OK 所以你現在是呼籲大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7873.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
也相信媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7873.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
他應該有判斷的這個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7877.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7877.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7879.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
好 因為這個論壇裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7879.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
瀏覽人士其實超過49萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7882.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7884.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
那留言數是900多則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7884.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
所以當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
我們台灣的媒體也會注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7888.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
那可能也會去報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7888.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7889.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
或是引用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7889.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7891.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
但是今天部長您的說法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7891.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7893.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
所以我才在這裡講的比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7893.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7894.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7894.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7895.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
所以您的說法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7895.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7897.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
你所了解的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7897.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7899.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
這些人是少數中的少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7899.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7901.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
而且是受到中共他們的介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7901.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7903.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
所以才會有這樣的一個發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7903.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7906.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
應該是中共已經發動認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7906.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7907.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7907.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7908.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
但是不代表說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7908.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7910.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
裡面的每一個留言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7910.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7912.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
都是來自於這樣往事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7912.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7914.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
好 那最後一個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7914.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7915.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
3月31號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7915.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7919.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
如果韓國沒有去修改電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7919.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7922.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
我們會提出比什麼改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7922.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7923.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
Korea South |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7923.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7926.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
更加強烈的一個外交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7928.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
對峙的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
我們期待我們的交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
對方也已經有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7934.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
也在研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7934.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
我們就給對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
那我要講的是說最壞的打算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
最好的打算當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7940.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
就我們外交部去協商的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7940.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
都能夠成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7941.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
我也祝福外交部能夠成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7943.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7944.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
但是我作為一個立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7944.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7945.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
我在這裡監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7945.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7946.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
我還是要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7946.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
那最壞的打算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7947.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
我們3月31號我提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
那具體的作為一定是比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7951.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
現在只是單純就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7953.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
我也把你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
你把我改名我也把你改名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7955.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7956.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
這樣子的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7956.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7958.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
更加更加的劇烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7958.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
程度上面提高強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7960.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7961.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7961.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
我們目前就是一步一步來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7964.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
你剛剛都講到一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7964.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7966.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
只是你話都已經講一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7966.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
大家都聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7970.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
我們現在只是改的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7970.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
他那個所謂的那個喬明居留證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7976.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
是完全是我們自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7976.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7978.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
我們還沒有去更改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7978.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7980.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
這一個所謂的入境的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7980.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7981.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
這個登錄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7981.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
了解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7984.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
那我大概了解你的意思了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7984.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7986.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
那也希望這個交涉能夠一切順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7986.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7987.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
好不好謝謝謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7987.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7988.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7993.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7993.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
接下來我們先行宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
待會王安祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
質詢完畢以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7999.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
休息5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7999.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8002.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
我們現在請沈柏楊委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8014.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8015.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8015.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8016.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8016.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8017.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8017.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8018.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8024.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8025.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8025.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8026.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8026.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
最近這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8028.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
我們外交當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8028.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8030.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
剛剛藝川委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8030.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8031.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
有所突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8031.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8033.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
但是我想提另外一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8033.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8035.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
就是我們的女族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8035.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8036.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
我們的女族 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8036.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8038.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
這一次在澳洲比賽的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8038.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8041.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
發生了一些打壓的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8041.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8042.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
有一些就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8042.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8045.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
比如說她是喊台灣加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8045.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
結果被請出場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8049.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
又有這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8049.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8051.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
所謂她這個是因為美國職棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8051.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8053.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
以前大多會入台灣日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8053.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
所以她是穿台灣日的衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8056.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8058.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
結果因為台灣日的衣服背後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8058.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8059.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
就只有印台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8059.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8060.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
而且是英文台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8060.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8063.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
這個球衣也被要求要拿下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8063.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8064.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
我就想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8064.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8065.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
當然其實我看到後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8065.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8066.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
這個全場球迷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8066.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
還是聽台灣人喊得很大聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8070.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
這整件事情其實說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8070.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8072.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
我們理論上澳洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8072.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8074.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
對我們來講也是友善的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8074.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8078.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
這想到底是第一線的工作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8078.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8080.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
對於這些規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8080.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8082.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
他有一些自己的解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8082.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8083.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
就是說我們在事前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8083.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8085.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
有沒有什麼可以以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8085.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8087.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
防範像這樣的一個事情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8087.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8088.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
不然的話這其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8088.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8090.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
也是在破壞兩個國家的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8091.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
其實中共他長期在外國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8099.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
去要求甚至是就是解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8099.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8102.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
包括跟奧運或者其他的運動比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8102.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8105.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
那其實這並不是他那樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8105.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
他也是一個認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8107.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
為什麼不能叫台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8107.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8109.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
為什麼在觀眾席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8109.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8111.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
人家比較不干擾比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8111.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
人家要穿什麼衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
這是一個民主社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8116.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
自然會尊重的一個思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8116.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8118.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
這不是政府要去介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8118.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
可是中共就會去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8120.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
他有些進入單項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8120.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8121.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
或那個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8121.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8123.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
因為中共在國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8123.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8125.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
包括運動的這些協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8125.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8126.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
都有很大的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8126.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8127.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
他在控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8127.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8128.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
為什麼今天就是聯合國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8128.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8130.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
周邊組織都被中共控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8130.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8132.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
他長期把秘書處佔領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8132.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8135.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
所以是這個問題變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8135.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8136.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
很多是變成受他影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8136.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
有些人不了解狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8139.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
每一個事件發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8139.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8140.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
我們就要趕快去交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8140.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8141.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
也是一個機會交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8141.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
那以澳洲這一次來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8145.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
你看他們澳洲人的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8145.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8146.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
就很自然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8146.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8147.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
支持台灣就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8147.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8149.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
他們一些運動的協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8149.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8150.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
或是主辦單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8150.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8151.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
他也會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8151.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8152.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
他也會去權衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8152.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8154.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
或有時候會稍微有一個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8154.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8155.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
他就唸一唸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8155.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8157.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
跟中共交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8157.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8158.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
但是你要怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8158.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8160.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
揮旗子穿衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8160.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8162.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
那剩下來就是你的自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8162.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8163.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8163.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8165.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
一個自由的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8165.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
會有這樣的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8168.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
只要你不干擾比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8168.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8169.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
大家會加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8169.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
像是去博士受邀訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
去表演的原住民團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8174.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
一下子可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8174.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8175.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
一下子不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8175.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8176.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
一下子可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8176.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8177.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
一下子不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8177.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8178.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
主辦單位也很私底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8178.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8180.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
他們私底下都會收報歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8180.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8181.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
可是公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8181.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8183.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
因為老共就盯著每一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8183.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8185.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
像是在法國辦奧運的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8185.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8186.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
滿場的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8186.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8187.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
他們都坐在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8187.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8189.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
他這一種所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
所謂的跨境的管轄跟鎮壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
無所不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
所以這個是我們機會教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
所以台灣人要有這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
我們如果很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
機會來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
我們怎麼樣去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
讓國際知道中共的那種做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
其實是沒有什麼依據的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
是因為他久了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8209.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
就按照他的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8209.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8211.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
說他壞聽他壞人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8211.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
大家不想去得罪他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
我們就委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8215.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
那委屈也無法求全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8215.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8217.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
所以我們就是做我們該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8217.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
黃天鋒長的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8219.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8222.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
我覺得當然就是兩個軸線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8222.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
第一個軸線就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
因為畢竟對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
是用政治去干預這場運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
當然一定會造成對方的反感 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8231.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
那我們在這個之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8231.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
去做溝通的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
對方也覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
那就是你們兩個國家的政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
所以我們當然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
有一個fine line |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
要特別的小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8240.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
就是我們盡量能夠事前溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8240.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
這是一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
我覺得第二條軸線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8244.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
剛剛部長提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8244.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
我覺得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
就是我們要去凸顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8248.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8249.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
他的打壓已經成為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8249.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
一個既成事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
他就是一定會做這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
我們也預判得了他做這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
那我們不如讓大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
這件事情的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8257.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
因為讓大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8259.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
其實澳洲人民一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
就是他們的人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
反而是會反感的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
這是另外一種反向的操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8265.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8266.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
所以我們不是每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8266.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
都一定要是跟他硬碰硬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8267.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
但是我們後續的這一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8269.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8272.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
反而去凸顯這個中國的阿爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8272.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8274.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
我覺得這件事情是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8274.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8276.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
那這個就拜託外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8276.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8277.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
我們外交就是人人都是外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8277.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8278.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
隨時隨地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8278.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8279.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
一有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8279.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8280.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
當然為台灣發誓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8280.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8282.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
但是也要有智慧的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8282.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
所以這個之後就拜託外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8285.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
能夠協調權衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8285.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
當然大家都會期待我們政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8290.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
但是我們就大家跟各界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8290.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8292.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
一起來因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8292.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
那剛剛也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8295.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
就是大家都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8295.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8296.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
就是說這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8296.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8297.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
目前來講韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8297.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8299.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
這個以前其實在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8299.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8301.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
就已經開始這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8301.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8302.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
我看媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8302.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8303.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
其實也問過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8303.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8305.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
那我們在每次回答的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8305.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8306.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
也都是告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8306.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8308.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
媒體說在交涉當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8308.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8310.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
就是我們畢竟不想要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8310.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8312.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
破壞兩個國家的外交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8312.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8314.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
那這個因為丹麥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8314.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8316.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
這一個政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8316.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8318.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
核發給台灣人的這個居留證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8318.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8321.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
那這個也出現了這個矮化的現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8321.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8322.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
那因為剛剛韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8322.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
已經被討論很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8324.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
我想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8324.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
就是在其他國家的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
比如說像剛剛提到丹麥的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8329.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
我們目前的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8329.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
處理的狀況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
我想丹麥政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
也不希望格林蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
變成是美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8335.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8335.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8337.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
那為什麼要把台灣變成中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8337.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8339.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
所以我們的交涉很有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8339.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8340.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
他們是躲起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8340.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8343.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
就是他們有一個外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8343.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8344.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
很堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8344.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8345.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
其實他們政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8345.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8346.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
大部分人都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8346.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
國會議員也覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8347.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
為什麼要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8348.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8349.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
我看丹麥人民的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8349.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
也是應該是如此才對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8351.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
所以他反而可能有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8352.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8355.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
個別的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8355.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8357.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
可能做出相關的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8357.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8358.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
我們就要給他壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8358.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8360.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
所以我們也去交涉G7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8360.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8361.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
很多國家也都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8361.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8362.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
這個就是歐盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8362.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8363.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
大部分的國家都很正常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8363.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8364.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
為什麼你要去給人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8364.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8366.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
改成川啊 瓜號台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8366.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8369.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
或什麼這個居留證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8369.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8370.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
就突然去改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8370.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8372.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
你的依據是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8372.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8374.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
就是亂解釋一通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8374.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
現在一中原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
已經都在北京亂解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
大家你看2758號決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8380.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8380.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
人家很多國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
歐盟包括G7都不講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8383.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8384.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
現在連一中政策都不講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8384.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8386.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
因為會被混淆成一中原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8386.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8389.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
一中不一中是中國的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8389.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
我們台灣就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8392.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
這是川普總統講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8392.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8393.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
台灣是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8393.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8394.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
所以我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8394.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8396.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
為什麼用台灣有罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8398.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8399.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
用台灣不行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8400.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8402.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
台灣是個很中性的名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8402.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8404.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
所以我們已經退無可退 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8404.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8405.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
其實在這個情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8405.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8407.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
我們得到國際的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8407.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8408.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
因為每個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8408.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8410.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
很自然都會講台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8410.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8412.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
你講全是台北就很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8412.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
但是因為有些國際主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8414.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
我們參加用那個名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8414.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8417.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
可是你如果要擴張解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8417.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
你們都不能出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8421.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
連台灣大學也不能出現嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8421.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8423.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
Nation也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8423.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
台灣也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8425.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
那就變成University |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8425.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8426.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8426.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8427.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
誇張啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8427.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8429.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
全世界都認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8429.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8431.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
它就是霸凌中共 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8431.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8432.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
因為久了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8432.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8434.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
就像俄羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8434.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8436.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
兩頭請得寸進尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8436.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8438.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
今天就是打了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8438.95 |
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8439.95 |
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烏克蘭下一國要打哪裡 |
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8439.95 |
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8441.95 |
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中國要欺負台灣 |
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8442.95 |
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霸凌台灣 |
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8443.95 |
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下一國菲律賓嗎 |
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日本嗎 |
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所以大家現在都知道 |
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8446.99 |
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8447.99 |
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這個問題不是在台灣 |
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8447.99 |
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在中國 |
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8449.99 |
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我相信這個部長 |
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8449.99 |
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8450.99 |
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這樣的一個態度 |
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在國際上 |
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8452.99 |
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我認為是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8452.99 |
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8453.99 |
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那我們長久以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8453.99 |
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8455.99 |
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這一個中國的打壓 |
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8455.99 |
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8456.99 |
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我們大概是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8456.99 |
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8458.99 |
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忍受了非常的久 |
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8458.99 |
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8459.99 |
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目前世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
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8460.99 |
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慢慢對這件事情 |
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8460.99 |
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8461.99 |
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尤其你看在這個 |
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8462.99 |
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總和外交的狀況之下 |
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8462.99 |
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8464.99 |
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認知的人越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8464.99 |
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8465.99 |
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我們在之前質詢的時候 |
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8465.99 |
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8466.99 |
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也一直不斷的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8466.99 |
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8467.99 |
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我們除了面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8467.99 |
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8468.99 |
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這些什麼智庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8468.99 |
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8469.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
政府官員之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8469.99 |
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8470.99 |
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人民真的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8470.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8472.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
現在很多國際上的人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8472.99 |
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8474.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
對這個是有認知的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8475.03 |
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8477.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
當然在越來越多人站起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8477.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8479.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
這個反作用力一定還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8479.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8481.03 |
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本來很習慣於中國打壓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8481.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8483.03 |
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跟中國在那邊好來好去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8483.03 |
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8484.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
有利益交換的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8484.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8485.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
這些一定都還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8485.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8486.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
而這一些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8486.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8487.03 |
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還是會不斷的冒出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8487.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8488.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
那我們用這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8488.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
一個堅決的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8490.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
也就是要告訴他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8490.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
我們是不會退讓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
謝謝部長這樣的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
接下來還有一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
就是剛剛前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8498.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
應該很多委員都有問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8498.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
就是這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
我們在杜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8504.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
我們去做這些相關的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8504.07 |
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8505.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
反國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
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8506.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
這個部長應該也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8506.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8507.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
中國在這邊做手腳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8507.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8509.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
就跟關係機場那時候一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8509.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8512.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
他想要去製造一些假資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8512.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8513.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8513.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8514.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
我認為這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8514.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8516.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
政府的運隊是很快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8516.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
比如說一開始最早的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
有多少人要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8520.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
請他們填表單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8520.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
後來的關懷卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
看起來是應對得當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8526.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
我現在擔心的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8526.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8528.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
我一看到有這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8528.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
這一個也是當時的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8531.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
僑胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8531.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8533.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
他有出來拍了一部影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8533.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
這部影片現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
這個也是近30萬的觀看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8538.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
他在指出一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8538.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8539.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8539.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8540.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
當時這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8540.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8542.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
我們的大使館的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8542.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8544.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
在凌晨4點的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8544.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8545.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
來迎接國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8545.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8546.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
那就可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8546.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8548.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
下方這個畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8548.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8550.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
這個是華視新聞的畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8550.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8551.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
裡面就有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8551.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8552.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
說這一個我們的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8552.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8554.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
也非常的開心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8554.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8556.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
說謝謝大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8556.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
給予台灣人溫暖的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8558.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8560.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
看起來是很好的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8560.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8561.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
結果在另外一台新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8564.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
他就發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8564.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
一樣的畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8566.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
講得完全不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8566.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8567.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
另外一個畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8567.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
在右邊叫受購外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
然後這一個淚翻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8572.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8572.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8574.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
逃難之旅終於落幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8574.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8576.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
所以這個受購外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8576.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8578.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
這一個很明顯就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8578.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8580.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
明明就是同樣的一個場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8580.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8582.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
同樣的一個畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8582.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8583.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
但我們的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8583.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
呈現變得完全不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8586.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
那我說當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8586.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8588.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
新聞有它新聞的觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8588.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
台灣各式各樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8590.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
什麼樣的新聞都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8590.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8591.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
有些跟中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8591.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8592.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
站在一起的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8592.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8593.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
是多得很 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8593.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8595.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
但是新聞還是要根基於事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8595.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8596.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
所以我想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8596.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8598.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
當時的事實到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8598.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8600.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
報告員就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8600.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8603.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
駐外的管束的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8603.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8605.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
即使沒有外交特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8605.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8607.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
我們都是拼命 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8607.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
在就是幫助國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
那有些資訊怎麼樣去獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8612.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
因為發生戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8612.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8613.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
都不是我們希望看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8613.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8614.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
可是這時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8614.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
一個人當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8617.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
我們政府有政府在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8617.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8618.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
這個是大家比較安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
可是每一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
怎麼樣去處置這個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8622.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
我們能夠把資訊網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8622.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
先建立起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
這個才能夠應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
所以我剛剛講有兩種人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8627.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
一種人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8627.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8629.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
居住在當地國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8629.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8630.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
甚至入籍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8630.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8631.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8631.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
台商或者是這個留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8634.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8636.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
另外一個是旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8636.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8637.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
因為這些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8637.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
大量的是我們必須要掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8640.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8640.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
我們也不知道怎麼去幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8642.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
那至於說幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8642.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8644.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
因為有一些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8644.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
周車勞動很遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8646.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
到了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8646.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8647.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
我們的外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8647.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8648.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
也一樣進不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8648.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8649.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
因為我們有些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8649.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8650.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
沒有外交或特權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8650.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
那這個時候有一些體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8653.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
我們也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8653.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8654.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
我們也互相體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8654.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8656.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
所以我都跟我的同仁講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8656.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8658.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
我們做什麼除了做之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8658.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8659.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
也要讓社會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8659.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8661.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
所以後來才有這些影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8661.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8664.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
陸續有一些旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8664.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8665.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
或者是台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8665.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8666.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
他們就把它拍上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8666.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8667.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
我照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8667.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8670.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
我就說你拿到這個也要分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8670.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8671.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
因為分享大家才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8671.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8672.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
我們有政府在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8672.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8674.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
所以這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8674.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8676.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
就是有時候難免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8677.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
總是有一定比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8680.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
我們沒有照顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8680.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
我們趕快來補救 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8682.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
我也是用這個心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8682.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
跟我們駐外人員講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8684.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
我們不是萬能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8684.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
但一遇到國人有狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8687.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8688.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
他有一些處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8688.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
我們要設身處地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
同理心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
我又跟同仁講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
所以去幫忙他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8693.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
讓他比較安心一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
所以後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
我想後來大家看到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
我們外交部在做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
不只是說到機場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
到學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
到有一些地方去關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8704.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8705.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
也了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8705.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8706.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
然後也協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8706.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8707.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
我覺得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8707.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8709.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
外交部是非常的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8709.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8712.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
那大家知道外交部的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8712.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8713.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8713.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8714.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
我覺得反而是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8714.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8716.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
因為如果你不讓大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8716.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8717.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
外交部在這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8717.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
辛苦的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
其他的東西就會一直冒出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
就是不斷的在作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
不斷的去告訴你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
這個外交部有多無能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8729.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
這個對我們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8729.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8731.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
會是一個非常大的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8731.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8733.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
所以尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8734.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8734.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8735.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
就過往都發生過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8735.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8737.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
有這樣的一個外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8737.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
就是帶風向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
然後帶風向形成那個批評之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8741.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
結果這個批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8741.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
到最後又落入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8744.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
這一個我們基層同仁的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8744.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8745.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
我覺得這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8745.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8746.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
我們一定要避免的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8746.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8747.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
那我相信剛剛部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8747.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
在捍衛我們台灣的主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
捍衛中華民國的主權的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8752.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
已經講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8752.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8754.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
我們不會這個中國的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8754.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8755.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
我們在國內也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8755.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8756.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
我覺得國內有太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8756.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8758.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
是跟著在中國應和的一群人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8758.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
我們也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
我們不能夠去畏懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8762.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
這樣的一個打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8762.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8763.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
我們不能夠畏懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8763.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8764.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
這樣的一個抹黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8764.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8765.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
事實是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8765.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8766.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我們把它講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8766.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8769.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
讓大家知道外交部現在的困難 |
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8769.45 |
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然後外交部現在也的確 |
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8770.45 |
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8771.45 |
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也有預算還沒審嘛 |
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對不對就是 |
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8772.45 |
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8773.45 |
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這都是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
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那但是我們在 |
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8774.45 |
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8776.45 |
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這一個有限的預算之下 |
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8776.45 |
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8777.45 |
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該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8777.45 |
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8778.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
能做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8778.45 |
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8779.45 |
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然後要補足的 |
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8779.45 |
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8780.45 |
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外交部都會去做 |
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8780.45 |
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8782.45 |
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這個拜託外交部再多多push出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8782.45 |
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8784.45 |
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好 我再跟委員回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8784.45 |
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8786.45 |
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我們外交部有很大改善的空間 |
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8786.45 |
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8787.45 |
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我們要不斷去精進 |
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8787.45 |
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8789.45 |
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因為有時候會發生事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8789.45 |
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8790.45 |
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但是我們有做的也要會講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8790.45 |
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8791.45 |
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剛剛委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8791.49 |
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8792.49 |
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因為這個也會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8792.49 |
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8794.49 |
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我們後續再比較好做 |
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8794.49 |
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8796.49 |
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那這一個發生這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8798.68 |
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危機啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8799.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
這種第一時間每一個人的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8802.68 |
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8804.68 |
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我們怎麼樣去掌握資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8804.68 |
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8805.68 |
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那這個我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8805.68 |
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8808.68 |
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我想只要是在在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8808.68 |
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8809.68 |
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不管經商留學 |
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8810.68 |
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或已經入籍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8810.68 |
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8812.68 |
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我相信幾乎 |
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8812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8814.68 |
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我不敢講百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8814.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8815.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
可能90以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8815.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8817.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
我們都有建立聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8817.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
8818.68 |
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所以在第一個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8818.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
像我們的這些外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8820.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
8821.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
都馬上就會發訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
8821.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
8822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
當然有時候通訊不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
8822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8824.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
那會有一些要去解決的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8824.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8826.68 |
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可是旅客啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8826.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8827.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
過境有時候怎麼樣會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8827.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
8829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
能夠對他們有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
8829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
8830.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
而他們也能夠幫助自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
8830.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
8833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
我們一起來面對這種危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
8833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
8834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
然後每一個人都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
8834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
8836.72 |
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就是平安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
8837.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
8838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
好謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
8838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
8840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
那後續我再下次的這個業報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
8840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
8841.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
我可能再來詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
8841.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
8842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
8842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
8843.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
8844.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
8845.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
8845.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
8847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
我們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
8849.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
8851.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
王安祥委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
8859.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
8860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
8860.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
8861.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
8861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
8862.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
請聯帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
8870.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
8871.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
8874.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
8875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
8875.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
8876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
因為我從學界來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
8876.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
8877.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
其實我都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
8877.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
8878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
在學術界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
8878.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
8879.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
就official的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
8879.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
8881.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
其實外交非常非常困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
8881.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
8883.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
包括我們協助一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
8883.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
8886.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
像這個NGO的這個組織的參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
8886.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
8887.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
其實也面臨很多困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
8887.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
8888.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
所以我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
8888.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
8890.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
大概就想要特別提到一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
8890.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
8891.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
這個所謂的cultural |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
8891.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
8892.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
文化外交的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
8892.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
8894.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
就我的經驗來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
8894.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
8895.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
我覺得這個部分是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
8895.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
8896.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
非常非常強的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
8896.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
8898.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
所以希望台灣能夠利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
8898.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
8899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
這個文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
8899.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
8901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
能夠勇敢的走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
8901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
8903.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
而且就我接觸很多外國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
8903.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
8904.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
他們其實都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
8904.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
8905.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
非常非常喜歡台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
8905.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
8907.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
我想部長應該認同這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
8907.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
8909.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
我們都應該好好發文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
8909.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
8910.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
8910.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
8912.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
因為前幾天這個總職局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
8912.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
8913.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
也有韓委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
8913.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
8914.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
就是有關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
8914.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
8915.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
Taiwan review這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
8915.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
8917.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
這個刊物的這個停刊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
8917.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
8919.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
好像跟這個數位化有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
8919.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
8920.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
不曉得部長是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
8920.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
8921.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
接機跟大家說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
8921.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
8923.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
對因為我想數位匯流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
8923.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
8924.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
內容很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
8924.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
8926.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
那平台是可以多平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
8926.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
8929.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
所以我們也要因應AI時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
8929.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
8930.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
8930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
8931.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
所以我們也在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
8931.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
8934.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
一些就是新興科技的應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
8934.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
8935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
包括數位科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
8935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
8938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
所以有關過去都是利用紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
8938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
8940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
第一個紙本你發得出去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
8940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
8941.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
如果發不出去的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
8941.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
8943.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
印了那麼多堆積在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
8943.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
8944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
再來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
8944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
8947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
那個內容怎麼樣與時俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
8947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
8950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
甚至現在可以用AI去傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
8950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
8952.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
所以我想這個兩方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
8952.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
8953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
一個是內容很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
8953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
8955.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
那另外一個就是它的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
8955.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
8957.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
媒介也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
8957.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
8959.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
這個我們很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
8959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
8961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
這個部長的那個個人的網頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
8961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
8963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
其實流量非常非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
8963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
8965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
我們常常很多官方的網頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
8965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
8966.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
其實這個流量 |
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8966.75 |
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8967.75 |
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其實不是那麼高 |
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8967.75 |
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8968.75 |
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所以有關於剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
8968.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
8969.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
我們必須要透過 |
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8969.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
8971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
這種所謂的數位化的方式 |
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8971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
8972.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
來傳播 |
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8972.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
8973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
也請這個部長多多留意 |
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8973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
8974.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
說怎麼樣透過這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
8974.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
8975.75 |
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比較official |
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8975.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
8976.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
或是比較民間的力量 |
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8976.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
8978.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
來傳遞這個相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
8978.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
8979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
我們台灣的一些文化的訊息 |
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8979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
8981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我在提供委員資料 |
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8981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
8982.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
就是這兩年來 |
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8982.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
8984.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
我們在點閱或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
8984.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
8985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
我們官網 |
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8985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
8987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
這個跟我個人的網頁 |
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8987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
8988.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
當然也會互相連動 |
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8988.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
8989.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
怎麼去帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
8989.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
8990.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
中英文的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
8990.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
8992.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
剛剛講的各種多語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
8992.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
8993.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
我們怎麼樣就是說 |
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8993.79 |
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8994.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
因為現在的 |
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8994.79 |
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8995.79 |
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包括中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
8995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
8996.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
8996.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
8997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
很多新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
8997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
8998.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
他們也在做這個工作的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
8998.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
8999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
我們也要跟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
8999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
一起來看怎麼樣分工合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9002.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9002.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9003.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
那過去我們在學校常常說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9003.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9004.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
內容最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9004.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
那媒介可能這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9007.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
只是輔助的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9007.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9009.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
所以接下來我就想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9009.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9010.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
跟這個部長討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9010.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9012.79 |
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就是有關於我們實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9012.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9014.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
到底怎麼樣定義台灣的品牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9014.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9017.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
到底什麼東西可以代表台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9017.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9018.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
那接下來我們可能就來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9018.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9020.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
那過去我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9020.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9021.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
現在這個外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9021.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9022.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
其實跟文化部也做一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9022.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9023.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
就我剛剛說的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9023.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9025.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
我們當然也非常樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9025.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9027.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
只是我們可能要討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9027.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9028.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
到底什麼樣的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9028.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
比較適合現在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9032.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
的這個文化的一個主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9032.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9033.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
那接下來就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9033.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9034.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
前幾天的這個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9034.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
曾經的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9037.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
就是這個談相商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9037.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
這個的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9039.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9039.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9040.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
這個部長也藉這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9040.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9041.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
跟大家說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9041.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
我們這個是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9045.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
外交部有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9045.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9047.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
台美會的資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9047.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9049.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
那我們已經跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9049.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9051.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
談相商市政府已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9051.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
已經見面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9053.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
他們要做都市更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9053.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9055.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
那我們要積極的來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9055.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9057.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
這個是一個Downtown area |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9057.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9058.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
是一個非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9058.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9060.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
那因為疫情的關係就沒落了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9060.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9062.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
我們認為這是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9062.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9063.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
很好的可以共同開發的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9063.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9065.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
對他們現在的態度也覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9065.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9067.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
媒體的報導好像對我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9067.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9069.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
都停留在先前的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9069.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9071.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
因為他們那個市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9071.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9072.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
寫了很多信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9072.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9074.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
當然有一些單位並沒有去回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9074.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9075.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
回復的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9075.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9077.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
那我是從去年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9077.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9078.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
就積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9078.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9080.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
跟他們希望說共同來開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9080.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9082.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
是 所以部長說這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9082.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9083.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
其實已經解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9083.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
就是他們要跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9084.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
這樣自播放區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9087.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
雙方已經有一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9087.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9089.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
要來做都市更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9089.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9091.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
來一起開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9091.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
好 我們也很樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9093.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
接下來我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9093.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9094.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
剛剛我一直提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9094.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9095.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
這個文化的軟實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9095.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9097.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
我認為台灣的最強的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9097.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9099.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
那這個部長是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9099.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9100.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
可以跟大家藉這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9100.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9101.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9101.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9102.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
大概部長覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9102.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9103.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
我們文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9103.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
這個我們現在最強的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9105.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
文化實力是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9105.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9106.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
文化外交是總的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9106.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9107.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9107.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9109.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
特別是對於民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9109.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9110.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
他們很尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9110.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
甚至喜愛多元的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9113.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
所以你看我有個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9113.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
歐洲專案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
你看為什麼故宮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9117.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
到捷克去展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9117.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9119.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
到法國去展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9119.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9121.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
那我們的部門的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9121.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
也可以到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9123.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
因為對他們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9123.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9124.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
這個就是一個文化交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9124.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9125.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
甚至到了維也納 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9125.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9128.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
我也可以去愛樂廳去聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9128.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9130.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
然後到了義大利羅馬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9130.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9132.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
一樣我們幽靈神社 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9132.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
幽靈神社的這個表演 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9135.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9136.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
我意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9136.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
文化是世界可以說共同與一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9139.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
而且文化強調的是多樣性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9141.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
多元文化嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
大家互相欣賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
只有中共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9145.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
他是沒有允許多元文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9149.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
所以用文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9149.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
對比中國現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9151.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
這種戰狼外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
我們最走的出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9153.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
所以去年在歐洲專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9155.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
我們繳文化界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
包括文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9157.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9158.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
一起來整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9158.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9160.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
我們既然有一些表演團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9161.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9163.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
甚至金管會現在也發函 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9163.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9165.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
我們的企業補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9165.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9167.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
文化團體出國表演 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9167.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9169.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
也可以適用於ESG |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9169.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
可以抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
再來就是文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9173.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
我們那個主題叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9173.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9175.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
From Tech to Culture |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9175.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9177.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
Taiwan Leads the Future |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9177.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
台灣不是只有在德國半導體的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9181.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
我們的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9181.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
其實跟他們是互補的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9183.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9183.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9184.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9184.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
所以剛剛沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9186.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
部長一直在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9186.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9187.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
所謂的多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9187.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
所以很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9189.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
其實台灣現在很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9189.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9190.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
台灣現在很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9190.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9191.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
對外國人的印象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9191.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9192.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9192.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9193.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
我們傳統的一些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9193.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9194.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
像一些宮廟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9194.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9196.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
像一些我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9196.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
比較傳統的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9199.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
都是 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9199.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9200.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9200.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
因為台灣現在很容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
就被扣上統戰的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
這種紅帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
所以我也是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9207.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9207.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
有一個很清楚的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
怎麼樣區隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
我們跟這個對岸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9214.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
這樣子的一個文化差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9214.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9215.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
這幾年其實台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9215.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
有發展自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9217.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
一個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9217.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
我覺得都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9218.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
非常不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9219.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
這個問很多來台灣的外國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
問他們要不要改學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
他們就告訴我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
他們喜歡台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9224.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9225.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
有理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9227.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9229.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
而且先驅傳統的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9229.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
部長應該同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
我這樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9231.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
非常同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9232.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
他們會愛上台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9234.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
大部分都會體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9234.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
台灣多元文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9235.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
台灣的人情味以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9237.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
其實我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9237.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9238.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
不管族群文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9238.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9239.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
先來後到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9239.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
或是世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9243.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
像當代的這些精緻的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9243.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9245.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
台灣都可以兼容並蓄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9245.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
所以跟我其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9247.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
有關於這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
東方的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9248.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
其實我們也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
搶這個主導權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
不要都一直挨打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
基本上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
可以看到這頁頭影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
先日本還是哈罕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
像酷羅卓培那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
或是Corean Rave |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
這種其實在國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
都滿有名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
我們今天是不是來討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9266.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
部長覺得台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9266.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9267.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
有沒有什麼很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9267.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
這一陣子因為大家打棒球 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9270.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
聽Taiwan其實應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9273.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
是不錯的一個品牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9273.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
不知道部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9275.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
有沒有什麼新的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9275.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9276.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9276.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
我們現在請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
除了跟文化部合作以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9280.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
我們把文化界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9280.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
我們有台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9282.19 |
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外交部有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9282.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
叫做品牌優化的一個小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
所以怎麼樣去做Taiwan Branding |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9290.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
然後怎麼反映在我們的禮品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9290.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9292.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
我們的空間的佈置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9292.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9294.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
甚至我們辦的活動裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9294.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9296.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
好像去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9296.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
我們那個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
這個歐洲台灣文化年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9300.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
我們的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
一個Logo |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
就是用羅馬柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
再加上台灣的晶片形成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9311.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
一個像歐洲的神殿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9311.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9313.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
那個得到非常大的評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9313.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
我再分享給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
我們外委會每個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9317.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
那是一個很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9317.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9319.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
品牌化的一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9319.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
所以我們在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9321.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9321.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
跟世界要交朋友裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
文化是共同的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
而且可以創造一些差異化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9329.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
避免被對岸的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9329.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
這個就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9330.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
日本的它的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
這個它的文化的外交的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9333.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9335.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
那我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9335.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9337.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
這個就這個文化外交部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9337.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9338.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
希望那個外交部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9338.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9340.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
琢磨更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9340.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9341.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
因為好像剛剛很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9341.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9342.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
前面的委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9342.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9344.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
這個所謂的編制外館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9344.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9346.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
這個駐點的部分的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9346.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9348.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
是不是比如說像文化類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9348.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9350.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
剛剛部長說很多類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9350.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9352.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
是不是這個外交部可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9352.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
再這個Done了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9356.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
就可以主導很多的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9356.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
其實我們國傳司也在做轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9359.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
因為以前我當過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9359.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9360.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
國內新聞局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9360.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9362.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
就負責這個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9362.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9363.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
品牌跟行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9363.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9365.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
後來交通部長負責觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9365.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9367.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那也是跟品牌有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9367.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
這個台灣的形象 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9370.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
然後在外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9370.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9372.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
現在我們總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9372.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9374.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
所以跟文化部有形成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9374.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9376.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
文化外交我們的一個小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9376.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9378.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
那也把文化界的專家弄進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9378.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9379.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
所以這個確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9379.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9381.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9381.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9383.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
台灣傳統外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9383.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
我覺得有兩個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9385.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9386.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
一個是現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9386.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9388.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
之外科技外交跟文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9388.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9390.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
是兩個最走出去到世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9390.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9392.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
我們能夠走出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9392.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9393.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
所以我是剛剛特區委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9393.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9394.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
我就提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9394.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9395.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
因為剛剛前面也有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9395.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9396.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
提到南非這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9396.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9397.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
現在剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9397.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9399.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
部長好像說還在協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9399.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9400.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
接下來因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9400.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9402.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
好像有提到這一類的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9402.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
像我們的晶片外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9405.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
是不是接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9405.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9407.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
有一些這樣子的一些策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9407.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9409.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
我們從來不以我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9409.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9410.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9410.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9412.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
我們的不管科技或文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9412.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9413.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
作為武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9413.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9414.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
可是當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9414.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9415.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9415.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9417.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
沒有平等待我們的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9418.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9418.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
我們在推動這個半導體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
所謂的信賴的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9421.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9422.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9422.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9424.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
我們除了跟美日歐以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9424.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9426.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
比如說菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9426.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
它在地緣上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9429.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
它也是面對中國的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9429.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9431.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
它也跟美國比較親近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9431.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9432.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
所以這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9432.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
我們怎麼樣把半導體的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
把菲律賓納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9437.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
所以晶片是可以作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9437.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9438.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
促進龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9438.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9440.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
可是有些國家對我們很不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9440.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9442.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
那我們不用是一廂情願 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9442.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
去迎合它 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9446.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
那我們當然會有親疏遠近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9446.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9447.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
這也是我在印尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9447.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9448.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
它有一個很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9448.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9450.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
雜誌跟報紙跟電視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9450.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9451.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
採訪我的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9451.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9454.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
我們會對於平等待我之國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9454.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
9456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
我們絕對是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
9457.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
加倍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
9457.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
9458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
來去珍惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
9458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
9459.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
然後來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
9459.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
9460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
因為剛剛前面委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
9460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
9461.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
在提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
9461.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
9462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
所謂南海的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
9462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
9463.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
我想我這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
9463.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
9464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
基本上就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
9464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
9465.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
現在有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
9465.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
9467.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
對我們不是非常友善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
9467.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
9469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
那也顯然外交部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
9469.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
9470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
把這些都想進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
9470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
9472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
我跟委員補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
9472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
9473.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
是在十年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
9473.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
9475.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
南韓政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
9475.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
9476.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
跟我們拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
9476.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
9477.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
9477.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
9479.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
我們用大韓民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
9479.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
9480.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
9480.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
9482.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
但是很多國家也是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
9482.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
9483.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
South Korea |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
9483.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
9484.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
或Korea 括號South |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
9484.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
9485.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
9485.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
9486.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
那這個其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
9486.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
9487.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
一個我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
9487.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
9488.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
它也了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
9488.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
9489.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
9489.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
9490.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
我們也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
9490.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
9491.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
我們對台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
9491.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
9493.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
海洋關係是可以很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
9493.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
9495.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
不管在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
9495.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
9496.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
產業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
9496.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
9498.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
在文化上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
9498.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
9500.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
可是這個對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
9500.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
9502.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
國家的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
9502.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
9503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
不管是尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
9503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
9504.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
或國人的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
9504.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
9506.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
他的一個尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
9506.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
9507.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
好 感謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
9507.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
9508.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
所以最後我就是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
9508.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
9509.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
9509.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
9510.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
再中整一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
9510.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
9511.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
大概就這幾項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
9511.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
9512.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
包含我們的文化外交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
9512.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
9514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
總要這個戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
9514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
9515.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
還有我們的定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
9515.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
9516.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
9516.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
9518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
希望能夠跨部會合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
9518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
9519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
那請這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
9519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
9520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
多多再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
9520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
9521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
拓展我們的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
9521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
9522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
9523.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
9524.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
9527.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
9528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
9528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
9530.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
我們現在先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
9904.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
9905.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
好 請各位就座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
9905.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
9906.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
我們繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
9907.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
9909.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
接下來請黃建斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
9909.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
9910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
9926.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
9927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
好 謝謝召委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
9927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
9929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
我們有請林家榮部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
9929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
9930.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
請 林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
9936.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
9937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
9937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
9938.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
9939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
9940.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
部長 那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
9940.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
9941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
近期因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
9941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
9943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
美國跟伊朗的衝突升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
9943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
9945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
那中東地區的這個安全情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
9945.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
9947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
持續的緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
9947.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
9950.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
許多國家都密切的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
9950.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
9951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
他們當地的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
9951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
9953.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
公民的安全問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
9953.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
9955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
因為當戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
9955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
9956.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
去衝突發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
9956.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
9959.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
如何確保海外的公民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
9959.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
9961.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
他的安全是政府最基本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
9961.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
9963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
也是最重要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
9963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
9965.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
那對於身處海外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
9965.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
9966.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
台灣人而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
9966.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
9967.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
在局勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
9968.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
9969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
不穩定的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
9969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
9971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
他們關心的就是一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
9971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
9972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
所以真的有一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
9972.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
9974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
發生意外的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
9974.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
9975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
我們的建物有沒有領略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
9975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
9976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
可以安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
9976.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
9977.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
就要我們來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
9977.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
9978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
那因此本席這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
9978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
9979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
要關心的重點就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
9979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
9981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
我國在面對海外衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
9981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
9983.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
或戰爭風險的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
9983.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
9985.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
是不是具備完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
9985.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
9986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
而且清楚的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
9986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
9989.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
撤僑或撤離的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
9989.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
9990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
那本席有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
9990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
9992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
最近中東地區討論旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
9992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
9993.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
這個撤離的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
9993.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
9995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
在社會上引發了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
9995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
9997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
不少的這個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
9997.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
9998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
那有媒體有報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
9998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10000.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
就是在這一次事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10000.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
有兩個台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10004.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
在巴林搭乘日本政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10004.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
安排的包機離開當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
那我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
都表示說這展現我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
台日之間的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
緊急時刻的互相扶持的友誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
那本席的領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10016.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
只要是任何國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10016.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10018.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
願意在危急的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10018.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10020.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
對需要幫助我們台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10020.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10022.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
來伸出援手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10022.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10024.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
我覺得我們都要先存感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10024.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10026.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
因為對於這時段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10026.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10027.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
對於我們在國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10027.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10028.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
國人來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10028.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10030.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
最重要的就是安全的回家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10030.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10031.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
那但是另外一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10031.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10032.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
有媒體在報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10032.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
有七十幾個台灣的旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10037.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
因為中東搬機取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10037.43 |
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滯留在海外 |
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10040.43 |
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這是旅行社這個事件嘛 |
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10040.43 |
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那也是透過 |
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後來是透過這個 |
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10042.43 |
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10044.43 |
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中國大陸方面的協調跟安排 |
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10045.43 |
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然後經過上海 |
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10045.43 |
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10046.43 |
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轉機返回台灣 |
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那最後這件事情 |
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相關單位表示是說 |
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10050.43 |
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從網路的訊號判斷 |
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10050.43 |
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10053.43 |
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這可能涉及所謂的認知作戰 |
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10053.43 |
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10055.43 |
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本席還要請教部長就是說 |
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10055.47 |
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10058.47 |
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一樣都是協助我們台灣的人民 |
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10058.47 |
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10060.47 |
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離開危險區域 |
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10060.47 |
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10062.47 |
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一樣都是讓國人安全的回家 |
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10062.47 |
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10063.47 |
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為什麼 |
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10063.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10065.93 |
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日本的協助撤離是 |
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10065.93 |
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10066.93 |
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友誼跟互助 |
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10066.93 |
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10068.93 |
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那中國大陸這邊的協助 |
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10068.93 |
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10069.93 |
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會被認知是 |
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10069.93 |
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10071.93 |
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認定是認知作戰 |
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10071.93 |
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10073.93 |
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那我想政府在面對撤僑 |
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10073.93 |
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10075.93 |
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或撤離國人這件事情 |
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10075.93 |
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10076.93 |
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應該是以 |
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10076.93 |
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10079.93 |
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人民的安全為最高的原則嘛 |
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10079.93 |
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10080.93 |
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應該不是政治的角度 |
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10080.93 |
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10081.93 |
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來看這個事情 |
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10081.93 |
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10083.93 |
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所以本身也注意就是說 |
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10083.93 |
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10084.93 |
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我們中央社這個報導 |
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10084.93 |
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10087.93 |
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我們外交部表示這個在 |
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10087.93 |
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10089.93 |
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中東地區還有七十九個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10089.93 |
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10090.93 |
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七十九名台灣人 |
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10090.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10091.93 |
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需要協助離境 |
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10091.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10092.93 |
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那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10092.97 |
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10093.97 |
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既然外交部我們都掌握 |
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10093.97 |
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10094.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
這樣的數據 |
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10094.97 |
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10096.97 |
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本席想要請教部長就是 |
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10096.97 |
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10098.97 |
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我們政府目前是不是已經 |
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10098.97 |
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10099.97 |
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建立好完整的撤僑 |
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10099.97 |
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10101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
評估跟應變機制 |
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10101.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10104.97 |
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那如果局勢持續惡化 |
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10104.97 |
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10105.97 |
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我們政府是不是有 |
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10105.97 |
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10107.97 |
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具體的撤離方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10107.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10108.97 |
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好 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10108.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10110.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
確實政府有不管是撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10110.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10112.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
或互僑的標準作業程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10112.97 |
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10115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
那經而這一次中東的戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10115.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10117.97 |
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也是一個檢驗 |
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10117.97 |
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10120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
那我們也不斷的在改進 |
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10120.97 |
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10121.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
那至於說您剛提到 |
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10122.01 |
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10123.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
其實日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10123.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10125.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
當然他因為他的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10125.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10128.01 |
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包機的這個空位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10128.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10130.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
有先諮詢我們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10130.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10132.01 |
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所以我們政府有協助促成 |
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10132.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10134.01 |
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至於中國他並沒有 |
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10134.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10135.01 |
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他那個是轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10135.01 |
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10137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
是去上海 |
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10137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10138.01 |
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中國是說的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10138.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10140.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
做的幾乎沒有啦 |
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10140.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10142.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
如果去了解在中東的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10142.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10143.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
他們都認為台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10143.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10145.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
做的比他們中國的大使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10145.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
好太多倍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10146.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10147.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10147.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10148.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
我們不是在計較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10148.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我是說救人優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10151.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
如果當事人有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10151.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10152.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
提供什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10152.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10154.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
可是有時候正在戰爭中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10154.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10155.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
連一些機場都關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10155.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10156.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
航空公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10156.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10158.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
他也沒有飛的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10158.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10159.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
那我們怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10159.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10161.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
讓我們的國人了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10161.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10162.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
他也比較安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10162.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10163.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
不然他會緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10163.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10165.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
部長其實本席的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10165.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10166.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
把人帶回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10166.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10167.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
安全帶回來是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10167.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10168.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10168.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10169.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
他要表達的是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10169.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10170.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10170.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10172.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
那另外一個讓我更關心到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10172.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10174.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
我們這一次的外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10174.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10175.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
市長吳志忠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10175.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10177.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
市長在接受媒體訪問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10177.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10180.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
說中東地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10180.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
空域關閉 |
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10181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
因此外交部先讓僑胞留在當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10188.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
並且提到其他國家也沒有撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10188.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10190.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
這個部分我也要請教吳志忠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10190.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10192.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
我們在面對海外戰爭衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10192.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10194.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
或風險的戰爭風險的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10194.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10196.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
撤僑標準到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10196.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
是依據戰爭的風險評估來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10202.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
還是依據空域是不是有開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10202.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
還是要依據其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10204.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10206.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
是不是有啟動撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10206.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10208.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
或撤離才來做這些判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10209.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10210.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10210.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10211.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10211.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10212.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
因為所謂撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10212.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10214.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
這涉及到行政院跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10214.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10216.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
也有一個機制在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10216.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10218.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
因為包括交通工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10218.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10220.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
包括當地是不是落地 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10220.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10222.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
那我們外交部可以做的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10222.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10225.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
所以於就是說我們當地的國人 |
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10225.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
的一個關心跟整個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
了解說 |
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10228.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10230.14 |
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了解他們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10230.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
那我們第一時間的了解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10235.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
這一些僑民並沒有表現這樣的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10235.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
至於說過境的旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
那也涉及到怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
他們的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
到時候空域放不開是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
特別是我們跟當地國的交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
因為這個時間都涉及到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
這個空域的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
安全意外也涉及到主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10256.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
那我剛才講委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10256.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
比如說我們有個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10257.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
有個中國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10259.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
因為想要跟我們一起撤出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10261.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
我們也是很樂於把他納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10263.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10265.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
所以我是同意委員的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10268.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
在戰爭或天災發生的第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10268.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
人道的原則救人是最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
讓他們有選擇可以離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
部長為什麼本席的問這個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10276.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10276.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
因為我們一聽到是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
因為其他國家也沒有撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
我想說我們的啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
其實是看其他有沒有才做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
這代表你都沒有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
你滴不動我不動還是跨室辦事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10290.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
我同意委員的講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10290.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
因為這有標準作業程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
所以各部會都要啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10294.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
是是保定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10294.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10295.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
這就是本席要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10295.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10297.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
另外剛好部長提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10297.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
空域的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
我們撤僑難道除了飛機以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10301.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
沒有其他的方式嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10301.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
陸域我們也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10303.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
可以嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10303.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10305.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
有些如果可以移動的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10305.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10307.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
我們在這一次裡面有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10307.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10310.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
跨國的移動也是透過我們的管束協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10310.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10313.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
讓他們可以從可以離開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10313.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10317.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
不管這個飛機或者是說其他的陸域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10317.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
所以其實本席要了解就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
我們到底有沒有準備這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10325.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
因為未來這樣的情況如果再發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10325.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
我相信大家不樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
但是真的發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10329.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
我們在海外的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10329.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10331.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
我們台灣自己的同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10331.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10333.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
我第一時間我沒怎麼想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10333.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
因為我當我聽到這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
其實換作是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
我的家人是在海外遇到這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10339.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
我一定會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10339.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
你都沒有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10341.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
我們是怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10341.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
部裡面這邊也是要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
就是我接下來想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10346.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10348.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
具體的幾個問題就是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10348.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10350.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
我們的風險評估報告是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10350.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10352.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
海外測小風險評估報告是做好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10352.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10353.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
那這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10354.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10357.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
測理的指標是依照哪一些來判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10357.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
10360.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
那第二個就是說我們是不是掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
10360.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
10362.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
目前在中東各國的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
10362.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
10363.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
那分布跟安全狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
10363.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
10366.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
我們是不是有建立及時聯繫跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
10366.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
10367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
其實包括旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
10367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
10369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
包括我們的橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
10369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
10370.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
華僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
10370.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
10372.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
那我們第三個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
10372.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
10375.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
如果中東再進一步情勢升溫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
10375.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
10377.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
我們是不是具備有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
10377.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
10380.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
隨時可以測理的這個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
10380.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
10382.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
10381.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
10384.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
跟周邊的哪些國家是不是有做好這樣的互助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
10384.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
10387.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
因為不可能是有時候要透過其他關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
10387.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
10388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
年金的國家嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
10388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
10389.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
那大概怎麼弄嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
10389.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
10391.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
那最後就是要強調是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
10391.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
10394.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
測巧真的是人命的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
10394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
10396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
安全問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
10396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
10399.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
我很好奇想問就是說我們像現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
10399.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
10401.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
中東地區現在在旅遊警示 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
10401.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
10403.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
是被列為什麼級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
10404.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
10406.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
紅色警戒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
10406.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
10407.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
紅色或橘色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
10408.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
10410.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
就橙色啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
10411.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
10413.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
因為我很好奇就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
10413.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
10415.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
當時如果說照媒體說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
10415.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
10418.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
請我們在中東的這些台灣人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
10418.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
10419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
在原地待 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
10419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
10421.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
那都已經是這麼緊急 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
10421.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
10423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
在旅遊圈待的意義是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
10423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
10425.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
所以這個部分其實都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
10425.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
10426.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
其實如果是本色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
10426.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
10429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
比較多的我們國人都在關心的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
10429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
10432.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
那我想當然很多外交的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
10432.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
10433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
不是這麼的單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
10433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
10434.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
我也相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
10434.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
10435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
那我也知道外交部很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
10435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
10437.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
但是我們更想要確保就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
10437.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
10440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
在這件事情給我們帶來的應變狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
10440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
10442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
未來應付這樣的情況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
10442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
10445.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
特別是如果在周邊都沒有幫交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
10445.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
10448.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
我們怎麼去把我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
10449.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
10451.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
國人能夠安全的帶回來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
10452.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
10453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
10453.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
10456.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
補充一下我們說比較輕鬆的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
10456.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
10458.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
就是講到台東這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
10458.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
10460.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
我想這幾年其實我們比較少看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
10460.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
10461.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
外交部跟台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
10461.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
10463.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
現有在做一些合作的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
10463.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
10465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
不管是在推銷台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
10465.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
10468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
或者是說外國的友人來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
10468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
10471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
或是要宣揚台灣的這些文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
10471.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
10472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
本色在這裡建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
10472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
10473.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
我們台東其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
10473.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
10475.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
台東是一個台灣的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
10475.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
10476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
10476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
10478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
我們除了是擁有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
10478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
10480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
最多原住民族群的縣市以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
10480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
10482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
我們人口其實是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
10482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
10484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
民客源還有外籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
10484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
10486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
這東西很符合台灣的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
10486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
10488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
就是多元跟包容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
10488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
10489.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
台灣還有包容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
10489.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
10492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
我們來台東這麼開闊的就是像東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
10492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
10493.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
我們就首先過歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
10493.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
10495.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
跟台灣這個土地拼命 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
10495.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
10496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
這件事情一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
10496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
10498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
我們是希望外交部能夠多多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
10498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
10500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
讓台東這樣的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
10500.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
10502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
跟這樣的文化的特質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
10502.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
10503.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
讓其他的國家看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
10503.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
10506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
也來行銷我們台東縣跟台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
10506.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
10508.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
這個部分是不是請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
10508.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
10510.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
也好 當然到合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
10510.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
10511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
我們會出的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
10511.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
10513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
然後也會請議委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
10513.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
10515.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
因為我在擔任交通部長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
10515.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
10517.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
幾乎把我們環島的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
10517.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
10518.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
有 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
10518.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
10520.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
鐵公路都串聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
10520.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
10521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
然後那時候疫情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
10521.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
10523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
我們也導入深度旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
10523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
10525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
所以台東除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
10525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
10526.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
沒有來過台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
10526.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
10528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
很難體驗到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
10528.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
10530.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
因為我們只能夠去定位台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
10530.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
10532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
一方面是它的生態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
10532.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
10535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
這個板塊擠壓產生的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
10535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
10536.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
不管是海岸山脈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
10536.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
10539.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
或整個那個地質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
10539.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
10541.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
再來就是文化多元族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
10541.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
10543.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
所以我們最近也有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
10543.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
10545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
這個原住民外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
10545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
10547.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
跟這個太平洋國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
10547.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
10549.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
包括那個獨木舟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
10549.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
10551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
還有吳動力的帆船 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
10551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
10552.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
那其他的我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
10552.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
10555.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
如果真正要來第二次深度體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
10555.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
10559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
台東比較長的時間去做度假 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
10559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
10560.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
我們現在的民宿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
10560.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
10562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
我們現在年輕人的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
10562.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
10565.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
這個創業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
10565.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
10567.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
食宿遊客型都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
10567.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
10570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
來過台東會完全不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
10570.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
10571.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
會愛上台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
10571.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
10573.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
看著中央山脈我們是傲童 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
10573.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
10575.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
就是面對太平洋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
10575.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
10577.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
我們是在台東的最前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
10577.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
10579.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
當我們是一個海洋國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
10579.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
10581.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
我們想要更開放的方式讓大家看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
10581.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
10582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
我是可言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
10582.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
10583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
我可不可以建議一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
10583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
10584.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
其實雙東 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
10584.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
10587.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
我覺得我們高雄現在去的人多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
10587.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
10589.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
其實透過南迴鐵路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
10590.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
10592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
那個鐵道觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
10592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
10594.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
把台東跟屏東串聯起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
10594.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
10595.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
是完全是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
10595.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
10597.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
我想這是世界級的體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
10597.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
10599.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
也許我們會來討論進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
10599.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
10601.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
應該都有一些畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
10601.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
10603.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
我們日後可以一起來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
10603.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
10605.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
最後還是請部長就是江 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
10605.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
10607.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
我們今天本來提到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
10607.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
10610.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
關於撤僑的準備或機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
10610.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
10612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
然後以及提到一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
10612.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
10613.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
在一週內江這些報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
10613.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
10614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
能夠送到本來辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
10614.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
10615.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
也讓我們了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
10615.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
10617.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
我們進入外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
10617.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
10618.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
我們對於安內的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
10618.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
10619.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
還沒辦法出力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
10619.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
10620.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
我們把已經做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
10620.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
10621.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
跟應該怎麼做會更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
10621.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
10622.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
做個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
10622.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
10623.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
因為這個事情還在發生中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
10623.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
10625.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
前世也不忘後世思思 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
10625.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
10628.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
所以我們會滾動式的檢討跟精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
10628.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
10629.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
10629.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
10630.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
10630.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
10631.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
10632.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
10633.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
10634.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
10637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
接下來請王定宇委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
10648.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
10649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
10649.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
10650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
麻煩林佳龍部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
10650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
10651.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
10657.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
10658.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
10658.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
10659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
保證辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
10659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
10661.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
我們外交部在部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
10661.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
10662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
擔任部長以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
10662.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
10663.12 |
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不管是綜合外交 |
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10663.12 |
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10666.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
或者是整體國立的呈現 |
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10666.12 |
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10668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
過去這兩年多來 |
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10668.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
10670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
確實有一些新的面貌 |
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10670.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
10672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
而且台灣在國際舞台 |
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10672.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
10674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
被看見的風貌越來越多元 |
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10674.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
10675.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
越來越豐富 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
10675.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
10678.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
不像以往都透過被打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
10678.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
10679.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
或者透過災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
10679.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
10681.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
或者透過幫忙被看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
10681.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
10684.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
這一點本席在這邊給我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
10684.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
10685.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
部長跟所有同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
10685.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
10686.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
很高的肯定 |
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10686.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
10688.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
因為真實的戰場 |
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10688.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
10690.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
其實是在外交 |
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10690.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
10693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
其他的海巡警政國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
10693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
10694.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
是面對威脅 |
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10694.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
10695.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
但是每一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
10695.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
10697.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
在面對這樣的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
10697.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
10699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
其實外交部駐外人員都相當辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
10700 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
10702 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
我們也曾經討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
10702 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
10704 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
駐外人員相關的防捕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
10704 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
10705 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
教捕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
10705 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
10706 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
10706 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
10708 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
那一塊我們已經討論一段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
10708 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
10710 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
我今天就不再著重在這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
10710 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
10712 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
我先請教一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
10712 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
10714 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
賴總統就職到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
10714 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
10716 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
邁向第三年了 |
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10716 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
10718 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
出訪一次 |
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10718 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
10720 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
目前有一次出訪到南泰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
10720 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
10722 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
今年第三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
10722 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
10724 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
有沒有出訪的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
10724.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
10726.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
我們有接到邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
10726.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
10728.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
除了國事訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
10728.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
10730.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
也有時候會配合對方國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
10730.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
10732.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
有重大的典禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
10732.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
10734.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
那有哪幾國邀請我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
10737.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
10739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
10739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
10741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
斯瓦丁尼最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
10741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
10743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
有邀請台灣因為他們有重大的節慶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
10743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
10745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
是 如偉傑那樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
10745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
10747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
他們好像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
10747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
10749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
他們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
10749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
10751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
應該說死亡登基 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
10751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
10753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
40年以及他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
10753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
10755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
10755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
10757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
58歲的生日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
10757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
10759.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
所以斯瓦丁尼有邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
10759.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
10761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
還有沒有其他的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
10761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
10763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
其他當然一般來講我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
10763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
10765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
比如說有新政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
10765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
10767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
產生的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
10767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
10769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
或是因為他有來訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
10769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
10771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
我們也是有要回訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
10771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
10773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
這些也都在評估的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
10773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
10775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
所以今年確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
10775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
10777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
有受邀也在評估出訪的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
10777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
10779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
10779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
10781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
元首外交其實對台灣很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
10781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
10783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
我們特別困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
10783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
10785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
所以透過元首外交有的是鞏固邦誼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
10785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
10787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
有的是做外交突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
10787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
10789.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
有的是希望被看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
10789.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
10791.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
那你估計今年我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
10791.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
10793.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
元首外交的頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
10793.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
10795.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
會一次兩次三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
10795.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
10797.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
或者不盡限於一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
10797.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
10799.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
能回答就回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
10799.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
10801.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
我們一般來講會朝兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
10801.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
10803.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
來做規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
10803.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
10805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
當然也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
10805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
10807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
就是說因應情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
10807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
10809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
的發展來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
10809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
10811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
OK好所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
10811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
10813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
我們樂見也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
10813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
10815.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
今年的不管是國事出訪或元首外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
10815.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
10817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
能夠有好的消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
10817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
10819.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
那接下來我們要看一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
10819.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
10821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
面對的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
10821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
10823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
在立陶宛的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
10823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
10825.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
我們原來期待的是一個正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
10825.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
10827.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
骨牌效應也就是當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
10827.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
10829.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
立陶宛設立台灣代表處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
10829.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
10831.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
那我們希望連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
10831.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
10833.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
不管是愛沙尼亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
10833.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
10835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
或者捷克 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
10835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
10837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
其他國家能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
10837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
10839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
仿效讓台灣代表處能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
10839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
10841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
陸續成立那確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
10841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
10843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
當時中國在歐洲尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
10843.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
10845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
中東歐本來是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
10845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
10847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
有幾家幾那個很強勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
10847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
10849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
外交力量在那個狀態下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
10849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
10851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
加上COVID-19的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
10851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
10853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
所以中國在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
10853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
10855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
Central Europe它確實是降下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
10855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
10857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
那現在目前我們觀察到的現象是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
10857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
10859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
立陶宛的總理盧錦妮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
10859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
10861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
10861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
10863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
10863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
10865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
10865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
10867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
10867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
10869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
10869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
10871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
10871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
10873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
10873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
10875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
10875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
10877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
10877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
10879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
10879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
10881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
10881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
10883.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
她 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
10865.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
10867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
認為設置台灣代表處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
10867.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
10869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
是一個巨大錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
10869.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
10871.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
那他們的前任總理呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
10871.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
10873.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
也向中國提案要恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
10873.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
10877.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
中國跟立陶宛相關的互動跟關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
10877.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
10879.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
那這是一個警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
10879.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
10881.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
因為這警訊除了我們原來期待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
10881.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
10883.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
正骨牌效應沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
10883.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
10885.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
我擔心的是逆骨牌效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
10885.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
10888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
也就是設立台灣代表處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
10888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
10891.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
被定義為一個巨大的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
10891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
10894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
那接下來對我們在歐洲的外交工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
10894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
10896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
不管是多瑙河、沿岸九國啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
10896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
10899.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
或者其他國家要開展往前更進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
10899.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
10901.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
讓台灣被看見、讓台灣被證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
10901.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
10903.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
可能會遇到更大的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
10903.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
10905.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
我先請問立陶宛發生了什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
10907.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
10909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
他會做出這樣的表述 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
10909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
10912.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
然後對於我們住處的跟明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
10912.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
10914.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
目前立陶宛的態度是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
10914.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
10916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
10916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
10918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
雖然他們總理曾經有這樣的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
10918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
10920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
不過後來也有修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
10920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
10922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
然後在他們總統老薩達出面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
10922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
10924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
召開國安會議之後也定了調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
10924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
10926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
有跟台灣的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
10926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
10928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
怎麼樣持續的來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
10928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
10930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
所以說他們要跟中國的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
10930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
10932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
那個也不是超支在立陶宛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
10932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
10934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
要看中國到底怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
10934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
10938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
所以我覺得經過這樣的一個總統召集的國安會議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
10938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
10940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
我們很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
10940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
10942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
他們也是很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
10942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
10944.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
我們肯定跟台灣的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
10944.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
10946.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
我們的這個涉處的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
10946.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
10948.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
就外交部的評估我們目前跟立陶宛的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
10948.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
10950.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
包含住處的名稱、編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
10950.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
10952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
是不會有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
10952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
10954.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
不會有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
10956.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
10958.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
我們要講一下股牌效應的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
10958.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
10960.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
因為2758號決議文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
10960.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
10962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
事實上是對台灣非常重要的一個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
10962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
10964.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
跟國際事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
10964.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
10966.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
當中國濫用、扭曲、解釋2758號決議文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
10966.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
10968.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
作為一中原則或一中政策的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
10968.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
10970.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
對外宣稱代表台灣2300萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
10970.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
10972.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
那個虛幻的幻影 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
10972.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
10974.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
讓台灣參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
10974.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
10976.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
不管是聯合國或相關的國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
10976.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
10978.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
遭受阻礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
10978.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
10980.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
我們跟各國建立正常的邦交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
10980.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
10982.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
也因為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
10982.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
10984.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
台灣已經被代表的假象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
10985.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
10987.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
傷害了台灣幾十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
10987.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
10989.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
從澳洲開始到歐盟許多國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
10989.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
10991.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
甚至義大利的外委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
10991.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
10993.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
參議院的外委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
10993.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
10995.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
到美國、到加拿大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
10995.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
10997.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
主流的民主國家都說2758號決議文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
10997.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
10999.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
無關台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
10999.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11001.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
這是一個在法國際法理上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11001.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11003.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
破除所謂的中國代表台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11003.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11005.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
一中原則、一中政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11005.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11007.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
非常重要的法律戰的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11007.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
我認為是一個勝利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11011.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
這也是外交部長期很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11011.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
美國國務院也幫了很多的忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11013.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
在2758號決議文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11015.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11017.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
加上立陶宛的效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11017.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11019.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
原來我們期待是歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11019.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11021.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
像愛沙尼亞、愛斯多尼亞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11022.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11024.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
也許我們可以設置一個台灣代表處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11024.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
或其他住處做一個證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11026.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
目前愛沙尼亞的設處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11028.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
其實講了很久很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
包含雙邊的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
互訪也相當多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11034.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
現在的諮商的階段進到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11036.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11038.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
我們在他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11040.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
國會這個賦予的法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11042.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
已經在他們在進行施行細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11044.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
那這施行細則會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11046.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
當然因為他是把台灣放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11048.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
整個法案裡面就是某一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11050.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11052.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
我們實質上當然在周邊國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11054.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
也都有一些設處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11056.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
我們的外交的這個地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11058.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
跟特權還有豁免等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
這個都有在溝通中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11064.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
因為那個施行細則要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11066.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
我們才能夠正式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11068.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
來提出那個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11070.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
這個愛斯多尼亞他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11072.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11074.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
是用一個法律去框架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11074.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11076.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
不同的外交關係的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11076.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
所以設處那個法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11078.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
如果有什麼細節出來就可以處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11080.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11082.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
住處名稱呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11082.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11084.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
住處名稱當然也都會交換意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11084.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11086.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
在這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11086.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11088.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
目前傾向是台北經貿或者是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11088.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11090.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
因為對方在通過國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11090.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11092.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
這個法案以及他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11092.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11094.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
內閣的這個決定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11094.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11096.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
其實他們是用台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11096.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11098.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
他是用台北 |
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11098.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11100.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
所以目前是往台北辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11100.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11102.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
就他們的先前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11102.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11104.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11104.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11106.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
就是用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11106.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11108.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
設處是以台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11108.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11110.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
那我們外交部的態度呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11110.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
跟工作的方向呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11112.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11114.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
我們基本上就是建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11114.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11116.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
實質的外交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11116.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11118.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
有外交的這種代表性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11118.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11120.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
這是我們的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11120.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11122.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
那每一個國家也都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11122.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11124.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
因應他的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11124.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11126.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
就是不是單一的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
外交部長在這邊不適合把我們底牌說死 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
但我們還是期待讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
台灣兩千三百萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
像我台南我就不是被台北代表的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
就是說我們還是希望能夠被看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
被代表的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
我們希望我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11143.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
各位同仁繼續努力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
台灣的困難我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
困難的來源我們也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
往對的方向努力不代表輕鬆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
所以請你們繼續加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
另外我移到芭拉圭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
我用那個超級豪華的旅程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
邀請了芭拉圭的國會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
去中國訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
那確實也產生一些效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
他們回芭拉圭之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
這是我們在拉美唯一的邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
在南美唯一的邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
他也表達說建議要調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
對台的相關關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
那我們都曉得中國習慣性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11178.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11180.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
或者中國會把經貿當外交武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11182.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
中國呢也會把貪腐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
當作外交的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
跟外交的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
這是中國的習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
有時候中國答應要買你的白蝦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
像宏都拉斯跳票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11196.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11195.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11197.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
宏都拉斯人民付出代價沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11197.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
但是他掌握keyman就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11199.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
那keyman用什麼方式來掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11201.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11203.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
那個眾說紛紜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11203.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
所以有關芭拉圭的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11205.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
我們外交部目前評估狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11207.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11209.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11208.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11210.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11210 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11212 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
因為我們的前駐芭拉圭大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11212 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11214 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
現在是拉美師長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11214 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11216 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
待會請他補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
中共對芭拉圭要挖我們牆角是不擇手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
他動用的支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11225.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
那是非常可怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11225.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
可是為什麼今天台巴的關係還是穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11227.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
包括貝尼亞總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11231.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
包括他們國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11231.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
因為他們要跟台灣合作是看到台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11233.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11235.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
發展模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11235.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
所以在芭拉圭就是台灣模式對中國模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
在拉美的一個對決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11239.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
所以最近包括宏都拉斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11241.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
他當然旁邊有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
瓜地馬拉跟貝里斯就是鄰邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
所以我們跟對方比的不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11247.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
比金錢或比這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11249.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11251.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
這種霸權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11251.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11253.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
而我們比的是台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11253.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11255.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
發展經驗的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11255.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11257.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
所以芭拉圭我們現在做到龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11257.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11259.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
包括八個旗艦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11259.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11261.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
包括他的醫院有資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11261.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11263.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
智慧醫院是全拉美最好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11263.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
我們在芭拉圭的龍幫計畫坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11267.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
做的相當不錯我有去拜訪那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11267.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
他現在是芭拉圭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
駐美國的大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11273.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
江啟臣部院長也有組團去跨黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11273.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11275.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
這個芭拉圭本身龍幫計畫是做的還不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11275.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11277.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
那中國我不強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11277.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11279.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
所以你們現在目前評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11279.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11281.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
芭拉圭狀態還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11281.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11283.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
那貝尼這個他們的總統那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11283.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11285.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
佩妮亞好邀請賴總統訪問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11285.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11287.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
邀請還持續中嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11287.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11289.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11288.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11290.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
對當然我們也要邀請他啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11291.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11293.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
他來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11293.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11295.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
我相對看起來比較簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11295.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11297.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
那我們總統出訪比較起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11297.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11299.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
要考慮比較多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11299.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11301.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
所以芭拉圭的邀請還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11302.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11304.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11304.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11306.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
那時候你團的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11306.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11308.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
來來來大使大使來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11308.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11310.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
那時候邀請的時候你還是大使嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11310.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11312.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
是芭拉圭的佩妮亞總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11312.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11314.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
從上台以後就一直不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11314.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11316.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
在公開或私下的場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11316.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11318.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
表達希望賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11318.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11320.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
有時間有機會能夠去訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11320.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11322.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
今年會安排嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11324.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
你這樣的笑容很燦爛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
我們隨時在準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
但實際是適當的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
有些要讓釜放來宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
好啦謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
我覺得懂了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11338.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
我最後兩個問題啦第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11338.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
史瓦蒂尼的基礎建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
因為他也跟非洲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
開發銀行申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
當然史瓦蒂尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
跟我們非常友好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
那史瓦蒂尼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11352.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
還是會跟非洲銀行申請一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11352.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
基建的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
現在他的那個佩克尼大壩的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
申請到42億台幣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
基建的融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11362.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
結果標到的是中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11362.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
公司用低價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11366.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
切到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11366.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
我剛才還是講那句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
中國會把經貿當外交工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
武器中國會把貪腐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
當作外交機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11374.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
就你們判斷史瓦蒂尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11376.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11378.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
跟這個佩克尼大壩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11378.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11380.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
對我們有沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11380.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
值得擔憂或關注的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11382.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11384.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
我是非常關注啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11384.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11386.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
這個當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11386.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11388.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
他們低價競標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11388.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11390.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
我關注就是說這個大壩有沒有發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11390.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11392.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
如果發電後續的營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11392.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
可能中共就會進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11394.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11396.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
那還好這個大壩純粹是一個水壩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11396.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11398.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
它沒有發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11398.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11400.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
再來就是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11400.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11402.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
我們的龍幫計畫已經進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11402.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
這個史瓦蒂尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
就戰備儲油槽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11408.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
那個計畫更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11408.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11410.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
所以我們也讓台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11410.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11412.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
包括OIDC啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11412.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11414.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
OECC啦還有包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11414.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11416.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
這個台灣世襲國會都進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11416.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11418.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
所以其實喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11418.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11420.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
也許那個壩弄起來我們台灣來幫他弄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11420.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
發電也是一個方式啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
11424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
對後續我們都可以去接手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
11424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
11426.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
但是他們品質又不好我們不敢接 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
11426.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
11428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
因為他們的壩有時候會破洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
11428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
11430.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
壩破洞是會垮掉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
11430.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
11432.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
對啊那會好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
11432.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
11434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
那賠償啊包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
11434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
11436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
要花多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
11436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
11438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
那個壩壞東西不要摸了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
11438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
11440.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
我最後提醒一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
11440.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
11442.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
目前南韓的部分我們是採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
11442.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
11444.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
不升級對應的方式處理這是好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
11444.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
11446.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
但我提醒外交部還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
11446.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
11448.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
一些實質的處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
11448.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
11450.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
因為韓國這種做法非常不禮貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
11450.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
11452.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
那當然有網友說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
11452.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
11454.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
應該叫他南朝鮮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
11454.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
11456.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
但我們未必要做到跟他們一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
11456.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
11458.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
這樣失格的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
11458.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
11460.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
所以韓國來講我們應該還有一些實質的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
11460.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
11462.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
但是採取外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
11462.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
11464.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
升高衝突的方式展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
11464.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
11466.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
國格我個人是給予支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
11466.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
11468.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
但這個事情應該要儘快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
11468.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
11470.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
有一個處理方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
11470.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
11472.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
11473.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
11475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
11474.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
11476.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
接下來請紐許廷委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
11483.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
11485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
謝謝主席林部長有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
11485.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
11487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
11494.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
11496.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
回合好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
11495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
11497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
部長剛剛黃建民委員有關心撤僑的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
11497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
11499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
這本席也蠻關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
11499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
11501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
我做幾個補充跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
11501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
11503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
再做一些比較詳細的一些提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
11503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
11505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
這一次這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
11505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
11507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
還有我們目前為止還有多少國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
11507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
11509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
或者是僑民等等留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
11509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
11511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
甚至是旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
11511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
11513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
目前以外交部的掌握還有多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
11513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
11515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
滯留在伊朗及相關的海灣國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
11515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
11517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
目前我們如果估計是8個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
11517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
11519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
管處當然相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
11519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
11521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
土耳其因為有些從那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
11521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
11523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
土耳其不算我們有6個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
11523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
11525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
7個管處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
11525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
11527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
土耳其我們也把它放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
11527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
11529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
周邊有時候轉機或者是需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
11529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
11531.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
那我們的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
11531.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
11533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
僑民總共有3千 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
11533.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
11535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
3千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
11535.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
11537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
我說現在還滯留的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
11537.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
11539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
因為有一些回來了然後有一些還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
11539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
11541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
現在狀況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
11541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
11543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
目前已經沒有滯留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
11543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
11545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
那我們更重要的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
11545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
11547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
他有沒有醫院想要離境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
11547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
11549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
現在是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
11549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
11551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
一個都沒有大家都安全回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
11551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
11553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
這我們再來了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
11553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
11555.31 |
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因為剛剛這部長在答詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
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11557.31 |
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有講或者是說我們前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
11557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
11559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
不管是在新聞媒體或怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
11559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
11561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
也不是大家都用包機或等等的方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
11561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
11563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
不過是這樣子嘛部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
11563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
11565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
其他國家針對僑民的撤離 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
11565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
11567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
跟當初在短時間內做的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
11567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
11569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
你有了解嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
11569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
11571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
所謂專機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
11571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
11573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
當然有用軍機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
11573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
11575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
有用民航機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
11575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
11577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
看當地的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
11577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
11579.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
那我們初步調查是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
11579.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
11581.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
在地的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
11581.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
11583.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
是沒有這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
11583.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
11585.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
因為他們當然也比較有經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
11585.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
11587.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
可是旅行社帶的那些旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
11587.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
11589.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
所以一段時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
11589.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
11591.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
因為要安置在那裡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
11591.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
11593.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
11593.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
11595.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
11595.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
11597.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
跟觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
11597.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
11599.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
因為他們是直接掌握旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
11599.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
11601.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
所以這個方面我們也跟他都很密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
11601.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
11603.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
我知道你也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
11603.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
11605.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
我不會太為難你外交人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
11605.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
11607.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
因為這本來就是第一個跨部會協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
11607.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
11609.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
第二我們的國際處境本來就比較狹窄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
11609.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
11611.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
不過我還是要舉幾個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
11611.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
11613.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
比如說日本就安排了先搭乘巴士 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
11613.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
11615.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
從陸路轉到一個相對安全的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
11615.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
11617.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
然後有包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
11617.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
11619.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
可以回來我們還順便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
11619.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
11621.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
幫忙了我們國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
11621.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
11623.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
然後都是一些好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
11623.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
11625.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
然後他們有準備軍用運輸機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
11625.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
11627.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
然後以備所謂的不實之需 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
11627.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
11629.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
新加坡也一樣11號撤離218米 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
11629.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
11631.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
他一樣用包機的方式來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
11631.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
11633.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
其中一半就留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
11633.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
11635.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
我剛剛有講留學生就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
11635.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
11637.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
那也都有軍事上的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
11637.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
11639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
你總是要護航的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
11639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
11641.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
那美國也有撤僑班機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
11641.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
11643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
法國是安排航班 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
11643.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
11645.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
所以我們現在下令軍用飛機先預做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
11645.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
11647.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
那所以我講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
11647.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
11649.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
這件事情你總不能講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
11649.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
11651.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
其他國家都沒有做所以我們也不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
11651.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
11653.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
對不對這個在現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
11653.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
11655.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
我們雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
11655.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
11657.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
階段性的任務已經完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
11657.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
11659.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
但你確定後面都不會有事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
11659.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
11661.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
大家安全無虞這個可不可以保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
11661.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
11663.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
戰爭還在發生中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
11663.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
11665.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
所以我們也需要持續因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
11665.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
11667.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
所以有關於包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
11667.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
11669.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
以及可能的需求跟方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
11669.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
11671.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
行政院有在評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
11671.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
11673.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
因為這涉及跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
11673.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
11675.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
因為裡面都會有整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
11675.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
11677.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
這本級有沒有要求說你一定講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
11677.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
11679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
我也要派軍機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
11679.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
11681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
這一定要做好應變的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
11681.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
11683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
包括這個選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
11683.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
11685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
但我希望第一個方法多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
11685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
11687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
11687.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
11689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
如果其他國家做得到我們也要盡量做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
11689.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
11691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
我不是講現在就一定要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
11691.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
11693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
沒有需求不一定做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
11693.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
11695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
要有這個準備方案有這個能力去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
11695.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
11697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
如果需要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
11697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
11699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
那再來剛剛也有提到有一些旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
11699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
11701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
說他是透過中國東方航空回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
11701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
11703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
那他顯然是透過中國大使館的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
11703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
11705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
我請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
11705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
11707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
這幾位旅客或者是旅行社當初有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
11707.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
11709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
尋求我們外館的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
11709.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
11711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
我是說這個資訊我們都有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
11711.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
11713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
然後他透過哪裡去轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
11713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
11715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
我們先了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
11715.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
11717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
哪些航班是有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
11717.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
11719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
就像也有中國人透過我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
11719.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
11721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
來轉機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
11721.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
11723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
我有在聽所以我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
11723.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
11725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
所以他沒有透過外交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
11725.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
11727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
上海這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
11727.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
11729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
基本上並沒有說有什麼樣的爭論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
11729.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
11731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
那因為盡快的讓當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
11731.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
11733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
可以選擇他認為最好的方式離境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
11733.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
11735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
我覺得這個是我們的共同目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
11735.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
11737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
11737.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
11739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
所以部長可以基本上也是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
11739.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
11741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
怎麼評價這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
11741.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
11743.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
我覺得這個轉機到任何地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
11743.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
11745.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
去只要是從戰場離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
11745.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
11747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
我是覺得我們應該都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
11747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
11749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
支持啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
11749.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
11751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
OK這我希望外交部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
11751.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
11753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
你至少做一點不要讓這些人受到非難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
11753.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
11755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
因為你講這很敏感 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
11755.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
11757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
大家考量什麼政治立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
11757.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
11759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
你要比照日本還表達感謝之意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
11759.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
11761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
也太為難你們了這本席我不會強加於你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
11761.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
11763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
但問題是有些人講認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
11763.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
11765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
他會形成國安破口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
11765.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
11767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
甚至是側翼想要去攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
11767.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
11769.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
我覺得至少我們國安部可以確保這些人不要受非難 |
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因為外交部已經公開表態 |
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任何的方式只要能夠安全的 |
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迅速的有效的 |
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脫離混亂回到台灣 |
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都應該要正面看待部長可以承諾這事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
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對 |
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在這地方公開承諾 |
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趕快翻篇好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
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因為每個人處境都很特別 |
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當事人最在乎他的生命跟安全 |
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所以我們全力來協助他能夠離開 |
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所以側翹這件事有兩個提醒 |
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第一個戰事可能會延長 |
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後面可能會有需求 |
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不過我也在這裡呼籲 |
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有些國人可能這個時候不要再過去 |
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包括去旅遊或者是轉機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
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萬一又戰爭又升高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
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然後又困住了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
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11809.31 |
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降低風險是一環你該宣導要宣導 |
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11809.31 |
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做好準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
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11813.31 |
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第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
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不管透過任何手段進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
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11817.31 |
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不要再讓政治的立場去干擾這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
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讓他可以順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
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11821.31 |
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第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
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11823.31 |
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花點時間跟部長探討一下國際局勢的一些變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
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最近美國川普總統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
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11827.31 |
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外交政策跟路線 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
11829.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
跟傳統的外交圈子裡面認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
其實有非常大的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
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其中最重要的一點基本上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
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國際組織的參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
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這個部長川普政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
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參與國際組織是積極的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
11841.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
他自己在行程以他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
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國家的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
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為中心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
國際的聯盟組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
當然也退出了一些組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
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這對我們來講有挑戰也有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
11853.82 |
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OK 他退出了很多的組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
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或者是用聚繳會費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
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11857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
或者是消極參與等等的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
11857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
11859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
他其實是往後退 大的方向來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
11859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
11861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
他的參與率是下降的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
11863.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
那剛剛部長很好 這是我正想問的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
這個美國在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
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建區消極的這樣子的一個大環境下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
11869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
我們參與國際組織的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
11869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
11871.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
要怎麼樣做因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
11871.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
11873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
您剛剛講的所謂的機遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
11873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
11875.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
或者是挑戰分別是什麼 請簡單說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
11875.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
11877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
其實美國雖然退出一些國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
11877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
11879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
他還在聯合國 所以對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
11879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
11881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
比如說聯合國2758號解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
11881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
11883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
他不但有更完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
11883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
11885.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
他還發函各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
11885.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
11887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
這個使節團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
11887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
11889.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
那另外就是說他在行程中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
11889.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
11891.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
新的國際的組織或聯盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
11893.82 |
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比如說像系勝市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
11893.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
11895.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
這種供應鏈 那當然跟半導體AI |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
11895.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
11897.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
有關 那我們就是變成裡面不可或缺的夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
11897.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
11899.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
這也是機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
11899.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
11901.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
那至於說你說我們原來想積極爭取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
11901.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
11903.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
一些國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
11903.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
11905.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
那美國退出之後 當然會有一定的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
11905.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
11907.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
所以我們也會跟G7其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
11907.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
11909.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
在協商就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
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是不是由他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
11913.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
比較有份量的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
11913.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
11915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
也能夠來領先 因為有時候要集體去洽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
11915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
11917.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
或者是支持我們的時候的一些行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
11919.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
11921.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
好 這個就剛好也是我要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
11921.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
11923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
因為美國雖然退出很多國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
11923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
11925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
但是同時在2758號決議上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
11925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
11927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
他做了非常強的政治的表態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
11927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
11929.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
加大了一定的力道 但本席想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
11929.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
11931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
實質上他改變了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
11931.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
11933.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
比如說以聯合國來講 因為他對2758 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
11933.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
11935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
全世界講這些東西不應該排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
11935.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
11937.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
台灣有意義的參與國際組織的各種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
11937.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
11939.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
對不對 那我們長期以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
11939.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
11941.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
不管誰在執政的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
11941.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
11943.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
大家都希望 比如說國際刑警組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
11943.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
11945.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
國際民航組織 大家可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
11945.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
11947.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
實質參與的方式來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
11947.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
11949.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
那這段時間現在的進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
11949.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
11951.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
有沒有遇到狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
11951.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
11953.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
這個組織是我們特別集中要爭取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
11953.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
11955.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
剛剛除了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
11955.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
11957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
RKO |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
11957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
11959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
或者Interpol EY |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
11959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
11961.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
那當然他退出了UNFCCC |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
11961.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
11963.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
跟WHO |
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11965.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
11967.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
所以我們在這兩個是不一樣的處理方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
11967.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
11969.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
比如說以國際民航組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
11969.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
11971.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
跟國際刑警組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
11971.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
11973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
其實沒有台灣 世界是會有一個漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
11973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
11975.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
是阿 大家都這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
11975.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
11977.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
這個時候我是覺得他們對我們支持的力道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
11977.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
11979.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
其實是有持續甚至增強 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
11979.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
11981.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
甚至包括日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
11983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
那在這個局面下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
11983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
11985.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
比如說我們還是要想辦法加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
11985.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
11987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
或是想辦法參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
11987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
11989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
國際刑警組織或民航組織也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
11989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
11991.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
現在外交部的策略是怎麼樣 正面突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
11991.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
11993.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
因為我現在反正可能各個國家形成集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
11993.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
11995.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
跟陣營 所以我只要站在人多這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
11995.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
11997.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
我正面突破 或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
11997.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
11999.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
我要迂迴的參與 或者是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
11999.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
怎麼樣都繞不過中國大陸的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12003.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
所以我乾脆死了這條心 現在外交部打算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12003.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12004.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
用什麼樣的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12004.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12006.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
我認為紳士主席國是比較友善的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12006.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12008.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
比如說國際民航組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12008.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12010.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
日本他們擔任主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12010.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12012.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
然後秘書處因為過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12012.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12014.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
有一些是中共長年的經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12014.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12016.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
他就掌控 所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12016.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12018.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
當然我們有道理是一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12018.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12020.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
但這涉及到投票或涉及到政治力的角力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12020.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12022.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
這個時候我們的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12022.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12024.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
聚焦幾個國際組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12024.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12026.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
我們也要有策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12026.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12028.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
而不是說都是去扣門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12028.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12030.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
結果都沒有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12030.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12032.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
是啊是啊 所以正面突破可能有一些困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12032.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12034.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12034.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12036.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
另外我再跟委員補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12036.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
世界衛生組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
因為那時候江啟臣副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12042.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
有希望說我們去辦自衛醫療展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12042.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12044.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
我們的自衛醫療跟健康產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12044.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12046.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
我想在那裡就形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12046.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12048.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
今年預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12048.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12050.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
我們也期待如果委員們能夠到場去指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12050.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12052.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
但是美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12052.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12054.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12054.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12056.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
也可能會形成新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12056.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12058.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
這種跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12058.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12060.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
世界衛生組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12060.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12062.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
性質相近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12062.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12064.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
組織的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12064.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12066.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
我們總是準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12066.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12068.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
我們也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12068.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12070.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
這個時候就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12070.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12072.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
有時候是挑戰有時候是機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12072.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12074.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
我們也要做好各種準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12074.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12076.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
剛剛部長提到四大組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12076.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12078.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
因為今天時間比較有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12078.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12080.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
四大組織的參與策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12080.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12082.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
你會提供一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12082.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12084.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
讓我們做長期追蹤跟瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12084.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
因為我們也希望有突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12088.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
哪怕你只是迂迴參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12088.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
我覺得都是在外交上都可以或多或少加分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12092.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
我們沒有要求一定要突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12092.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12094.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
我都非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12094.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
最後一個問題就是剛剛部長提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
因為國際局勢的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
美國策略的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12102.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
很多時候它可能變成多邊轉雙邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12102.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
比如說最近恆武之海峽的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12106.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12106.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
大家都想說照理來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
過去應該要共同國際社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
共同處理來確保海峽航路的暢通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
但為甚麼沒辦法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12116.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
我想跟我剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12116.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
美國撤出國際組織降低參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
你少了一個很大的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12122.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
所以就變成美國要個別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12122.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12124.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
雙邊去找各個國家來協調這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12124.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
那顯然以現在的消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12128.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
露出來講好像不是特別的順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12128.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12130.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
大家對於這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12130.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12132.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
心態是比較保留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12132.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12134.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
我覺得也合理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12134.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12136.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
因為從外交角度大家以本國利益為優先的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12136.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12138.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
我幹嘛去擔負這樣子的一個高風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12138.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12140.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
的這樣子的一個狀況呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12140.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12142.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
所以這是一個大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12142.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12144.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
但我要提醒部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12144.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12146.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
當大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
外交的這個專業的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12149.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
做了共同的考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12151.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
所以不管是多邊跟雙邊這條暫時都陷入僵局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
走不通的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12155.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
有台灣內部竟然有一群人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12157.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
我們要率先響應這樣的一個協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12159.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
甚至要派武力等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12161.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
去響應川普總統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12163.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
然後認為這樣可以帶來新的外交突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
部長從外交的專業來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
或者是各位外交部的人員可以來做補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
這樣的說法對台灣的安全也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
或者是對國際利益來講是有幫助的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12175.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
外交一定以自己的國家利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
還有包括主權跟安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
為出發點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
所以第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
美國也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12187.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12187.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12189.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
再來就是說我們的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12189.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12191.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
我們比較不是透過軍事方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12191.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
我們我想台灣的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12195.42 |
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走的出去跟我們整體 |
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12195.42 |
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12197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
12197.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
12199.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
比較不是在軍事方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
12199.42 |
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12201.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
的角色 |
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12201.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
12203.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
但是安全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
12203.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
12205.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
我們也有很多情報的交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
12205.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
12207.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
各種可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
12207.42 |
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12209.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
包括像你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
12209.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
12211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
二戰爭對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
12211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
12213.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
我們也是有一些我們可以做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
12213.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
12215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
那也在確保我們國家的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
12215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
12217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
跟這個委員 |
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12217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
12219.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
所以因為美國沒有邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
12219.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
12221.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
也不太適合對不對 |
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12221.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
12223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
其實部長這個我也不多為難你 |
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12223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
12225.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
但你看我點了這個事情跟剛剛我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
12225.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
12227.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
因為那會捲入一個我們比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
12227.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
12229.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
不能夠掌握的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
12229.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
12231.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
一個戰場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
12231.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
12233.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
那一部分也希望外交部適時的有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
12233.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
12235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
比較合理的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
12235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
12237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
我常講國防題目跟外交題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
12237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
12239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
不要有太多政治的色彩去介入的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
12239.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
12241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
它其實推動會比較順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
12241.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
12243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
專業才會比較被尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
12243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
12245.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
外交就是多交朋友少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
12245.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
12247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
少找敵人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
12247.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
12249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
少數敵人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
12249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
12251.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
對朋友多多敵人少少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
12251.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
12253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
所以我想不管是剛剛我講的側橋題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
12253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
12255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
有一些人透過中國大陸的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
12255.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
12257.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
就不要讓他們受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
12257.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
12259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
非議跟責難或者是我講和姆茲海牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
12259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
12261.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
所以如果有一些基於短視的政治利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
12261.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
12263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
然後去搞煽動跟操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
12263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
12265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
這時候外交部要適時的站在專業的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
12265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
12267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
以國家利益為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
12267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
12269.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
不會影響很衝擊因為涉及到能源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
12269.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
12271.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
我們確實是要很專注的做一些因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
12271.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
12273.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
但是不能亂搞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
12273.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
12275.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
好提幾個事情提醒部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
12275.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
12277.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
也謝謝部長詳細的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
12277.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
12279.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
12278.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
12280.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
12281.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
12283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
接下來請林楚英委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
12298.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
12300.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
謝謝主席主席要請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
12300.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
12302.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
12307.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
12309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
部長午安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
12309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
12311.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
從早上到現在剛好中午12點鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
12311.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
12313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
輪到我質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
12313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
12315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
我想幾個十四題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
12315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
12317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
我想前面的委員們都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
12317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
12319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
針對部長來進行質詢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
12319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
12321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
不過有關於韓國的這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
12321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
12323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
我想進一步的來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
12323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
12325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
提醒的是確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
12325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
12327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
韓國這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
12327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
12329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
做法是傷害了蠻多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
12329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
12331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
台灣朋友尤其是台灣年輕朋友的感情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
12331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
12333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
因為我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
12333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
12335.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
不論是韓國的娛樂產業來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
12335.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
12337.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
發展這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
12337.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
12339.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
很多的這個女子團體啊等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
12339.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
12341.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
來這邊開演唱會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
12341.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
12343.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
台灣的年輕人都很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
12343.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
12345.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
那麼台灣到韓國去旅遊的年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
12345.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
12347.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
12347.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
12349.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
這樣的一個做法其實確實會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
12349.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
12351.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
我們造成一些影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
12351.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
12353.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
尤其是民間的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
12353.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
12355.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
是非常熱絡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
12355.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
12357.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
我想要比較具體的來提出來是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
12357.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
12359.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
其實韓國的民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
12359.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
12361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
對於台灣同樣比如說我們去的很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
12361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
12363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
但是韓國來這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
12363.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
12365.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
根據我剛剛特別要的一個最新的資料是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
12365.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
12367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
如果以去年來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
12367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
12369.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
韓國是訪台的人數是第三名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
12369.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
12371.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
那麼在今年來講的話韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
12371.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
12373.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
已經要升為第一名了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
12373.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
12375.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
言下之意兩邊的交流互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
12375.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
12377.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
是非常頻繁的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
12377.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
12379.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
就像部長您剛剛也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
12379.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
12381.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
我們在外交上面就是多交一點朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
12381.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
12383.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
那麼我是非常肯定就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
12383.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
12385.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
外交部這些年來不斷的在透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
12385.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
12387.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
所謂雙邊互惠的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
12387.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
12389.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
包括我相信現在很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
12389.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
12391.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
年輕朋友可能去韓國去旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
12391.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
12393.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
其實現在很多的年輕朋友可能去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
12393.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
12395.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
是可以直接用快速空關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
12395.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
12397.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
那麼我們也看到了兩邊的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
12397.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
12399.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
互惠的狀況呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
12399.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
12401.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
是持續在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
12401.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
12403.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
我比較想問的是喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
12403.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
12405.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
在我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
12405.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
12407.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
一些國家雖然也許 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
12407.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
12409.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
在正式的公文交流上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
12409.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
12411.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
確實受到一些阻礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
12411.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
12413.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
但是在實質上面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
12413.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
12415.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
這些互惠是有進展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
12415.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
12417.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
首先包括像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
12417.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
12419.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
我們現在的這些動作會不會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
12419.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
12421.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
接下來包括我們雙邊互惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
12421.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
12423.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
使用所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
12423.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
12425.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
快速通關自動通關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
12425.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
12427.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
這樣的一些比較實質的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
12427.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
12429.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
那麼第二個問題當然就是我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
12429.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
12431.99 |
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2025年連紐西蘭其實我們也都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
12431.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
12433.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
快速通關我現在列出來的像 |
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12433.99 |
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12435.99 |
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美國、澳洲、義大利、德國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
12435.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
12437.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
新加坡、馬來西亞可是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
12437.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
12439.99 |
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很多朋友並不知道啦 |
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12439.69 |
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12441.69 |
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但是如果有商務上使用的人 |
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12441.69 |
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12443.69 |
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會了解那麼在這個部分喔 |
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12443.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
12445.69 |
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部長你怎麼來研判 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
12446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
12448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
其實台灣的關係是很密切 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
12448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
12450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
也相當有互補性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
12450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
12452.64 |
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所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
12452.64 |
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12454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
作為政府啦我們都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
12454.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
12456.64 |
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促進就是不然人流物流 |
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12456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
12458.64 |
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金流交通流等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
12458.64 |
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12460.64 |
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但是因為涉及到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
12460.64 |
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12462.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
國家的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
12462.64 |
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12464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
地位 |
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12464.64 |
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12466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
因為這涉及到兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
12466.64 |
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12468.64 |
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他單方面這樣子用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
12468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
12470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
我們認為這不適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
12470.64 |
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12472.64 |
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我們也跟他交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
12472.64 |
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12474.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
他現在也知道就是在處理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
12475.72 |
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12477.72 |
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好所以喔在這個部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
12477.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
12479.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
我必須要肯定的是說其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
12479.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
12481.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
被拉高成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
12481.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
12483.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
政治層次的問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
12483.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
12485.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
或外交層次問題的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
12485.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
12487.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
當然我們必須要展現我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
12487.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
12489.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
應有的主權的對外發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
12489.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
12491.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
12491.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
12493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
持續的就是民間交流的部分 |
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12493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
12495.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
我們也當然希望不要受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
12495.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
12497.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
因為兩邊可以看得出來 |
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12497.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
12499.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
彼此之間的這個交往民間是 |
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12499.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
12501.72 |
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很熱絡的好那麼另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
12501.72 |
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12503.72 |
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一個我要肯定的是其實 |
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12503.72 |
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12505.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
這兩天喔包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
12505.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
12507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
16 17號有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
12507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
12509.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
第九屆的玉山論壇 |
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12509.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
12511.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
那麼我知道外交部包括部長在內都非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
12511.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
12513.72 |
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忙碌然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
12513.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
12515.72 |
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包括19號就是今天還有 |
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12515.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
12517.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
台北國際的智慧城市論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
12517.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
12519.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
那雖然說是掛台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
12519.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
12521.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
國際智慧城市論壇啦但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
12521.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
12523.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
很多外交的訪兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
12523.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
12525.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
也都是外交部在做協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
12525.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
12527.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
言下之意就是我們都知道中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
12527.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
12529.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
卡住但是外交的工作不會 |
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12529.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
12531.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
停止本席特別喔就是處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
12531.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
12533.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
整理了一下就是外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
12533.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
12535.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
現在的幾個新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
12535.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
12537.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
包括部長一直提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
12537.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
12539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
融邦計畫還有國際交流活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
12539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
12541.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
跟訪兵的部分以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
12541.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
12543.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
包括民眾最關心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
12543.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
12545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
護照應智跟領入服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
12545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
12547.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
好包括還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
12547.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
12549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
駐外單位的警運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
12549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
12551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
經費龍總統統統加起來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
12551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
12553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
這些計畫是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
12553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
12555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
會因為真的總預算到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
12555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
12557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
還沒有審理而受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
12557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
12559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
那麼尤其是我特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
12559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
12561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
畫紅線的是可信賴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
12561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
12563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
網路跟數位治理還有就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
12563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
12565.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
我們主權AI這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
12565.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
12567.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
剛剛前面喔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
12567.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
12569.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
在野黨的委員也特別提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
12569.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
12571.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
不論是國防或外交不要把政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
12571.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
12573.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
擺進來可是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
12573.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
12575.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
一直以來不是我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
12575.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
12577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
擺政治進來而是中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
12577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
12579.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
不斷地給壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
12579.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
12581.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
或者是在國際間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
12581.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
12583.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
讓我們穿小鞋或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
12583.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
12585.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
施壓跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
12585.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
12587.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
在民間交流上面非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
12587.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
12589.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
好的單位所以說像這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
12589.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
12591.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
包括剛剛特別提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
12591.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
12593.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
有關於伊朗戰爭美伊戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
12593.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
12595.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
的過程當中這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
12595.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
12597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
所謂撤僑的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
12597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
12599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
這種所謂的中國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
12599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
12601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
認知作戰不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
12601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
12603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
發起的是他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
12603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
12605.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
發動我們要防守 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
12605.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
12607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
我們只好做澄清我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
12607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
12609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
只好強調沒有這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
12609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
12611.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
所以現在包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
12611.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
12613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
兩個非常重要那包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
12613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
12615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
我們台灣在主權上面的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
12615.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
12617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
的辨識中國不斷地在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
12617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
12619.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
為資料我們一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
12619.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
12621.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
也要有所動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
12621.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
12623.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
那麼這兩筆的預算目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
12623.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
12625.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
是沒有辦法動支的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
12625.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
12627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
會造成哪些影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
12627.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
12629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
那外交部這裡部長這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
12629.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
12631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
有沒有什麼其他的可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
12631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
12633.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
來做的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
12633.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
12635.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
報告委員龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
12635.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
12637.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
很多是新興計畫所以必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
12637.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
12639.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
要立法院通過預算我們才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
12639.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
12641.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
能夠啟動所以當然會影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
12641.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
12643.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
因為現在已經是三月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
12643.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
12645.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
因為很多事情是需要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
12645.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
12647.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
討論跟對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
12647.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
12649.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
能夠來 |
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12649.5 |
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同意之後一起來推動那也需要 |
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預算那所以您剛提到 |
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比如說現在大家其實台灣 |
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在智慧城市展裡面很重要 |
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的就是數位治理是我們 |
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提供的智慧解決方案 |
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從智慧城市智慧交通智慧醫療 |
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這個是人家看上台灣 |
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想跟我們交往那我們當然把它 |
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列入龍幫計畫就是所謂的可信賴 |
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的網絡跟數位治理另外 |
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當然有非常多這些 |
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新興項目會影響 |
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那國際交流因為我們 |
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報告有寫到為什麼這兩年大量 |
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增加是我在上任第一年之後我就 |
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解開了過去的 |
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平均分配然後 |
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要訪的預算很少所以在我們 |
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歐洲三十一個管處像 |
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德國我們還有三個是辦事處 |
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一個代表處有一些一年 |
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要不到一個團體因為沒有 |
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預算那我就是說我來 |
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找錢大家盡量去 |
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因為你要去諮商國會議員來 |
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你也當那個包括波蘭的 |
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國會議員的這個 |
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小組真的需要花個 |
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好幾個月時間人家也要 |
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考慮他可以來所以為什麼 |
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我們現在有一些突破也是因為這兩年 |
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大院的支持那我們 |
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有增加 |
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一些項目所以這個去國際 |
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交流跟訪兵比如像 |
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12723.5 |
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我們現在預算論壇完再去凱達格蘭論壇 |
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那半年後 |
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要舉辦我們現在就是要找到 |
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邀請的貴賓的時候確實 |
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會預算會影響我們 |
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好所以說這個 |
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本席還是認為啦在這個部分 |
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我們包括現在的 |
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智慧城市的這個論壇裡面 |
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大家會希望跟台灣有 |
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做一些更多的合作而這樣的合作 |
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其實不是只是單一面向 |
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的台灣付出預算跟經費 |
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在這個部分其實台灣獲得 |
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12751.5 |
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跟國際友人的合作的時候 |
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12751.5 |
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也是帶領著我們的企業 |
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包括我們這些 |
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12757.5 |
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網路的資訊安全的 |
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12759.5 |
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資通的企業其實有機會落地 |
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到這些沒有 |
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邦交的國家我認為這個點 |
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是必須要透過部長 |
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這裡或是外交部讓外界知道 |
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我們會有一點點 |
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被講說我們就是 |
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12773.5 |
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撒錢啦我們又是凱達格蘭 |
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國際的外交從援助到轉成 |
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12775.5 |
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12777.5 |
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去投資就是龍邦計畫 |
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12777.5 |
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12779.5 |
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其實效果已經出來了 |
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包括帛琉還有包括 |
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巴拉圭史瓦帝尼甚至 |
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12785.5 |
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好幾個國家像在波蘭 |
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跟菲律賓波蘭的外交 |
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部長他是副總理 |
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12791.5 |
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在國會他在這個 |
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12793.5 |
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報告的時候是第一次正式提到 |
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12795.5 |
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台灣是科技上合作 |
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12797.5 |
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的戰略夥伴那更不是講 |
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菲律賓解除了對台灣的 |
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交往這些都是非邦交國最重要 |
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12803.5 |
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就是我們這個龍邦計畫的項目 |
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12805.5 |
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跟他可以對接的很好 |
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12807.5 |
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這個東西有一些計畫必須 |
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12807.5 |
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12809.5 |
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要盡快來啟動所以我 |
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12809.5 |
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12811.5 |
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也是懇求我們 |
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12813.5 |
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大院如果盡早 |
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12813.5 |
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12815.5 |
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鋪位之後我們的外委會可以 |
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12815.5 |
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12817.5 |
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盡快的審查因為現在已經 |
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12817.5 |
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三月真的再下去之後因為外交 |
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12821.5 |
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都需要很多諮商的時間我想幫部長 |
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12823.5 |
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下一個結論就是我 |
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12825.5 |
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現在所羅列的這些部分 |
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12827.5 |
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它確實它是一種投資它 |
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12829.5 |
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並不是過去大家對於說我們 |
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在外交上面的付出認為是 |
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12833.5 |
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所謂撒幣這個都是一種投資 |
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12835.5 |
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投資回來的是對於 |
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12837.5 |
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不只是我們台灣的 |
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12839.5 |
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主體被看見台灣被看見之外 |
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12841.5 |
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我們也是可以就像您所說的 |
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12841.5 |
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12843.5 |
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龍邦計畫可以把這個 |
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更多的這個產業 |
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12847.5 |
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企業可以往外走好 |
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12847.5 |
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12849.5 |
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那另外一個我要關注題目是 |
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12851.5 |
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我們現在看到的是 |
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12853.5 |
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有關於海外的這個 |
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12853.5 |
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12855.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
急難救助的部分 |
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12855.5 |
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12857.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
因為當大家都有提到就是 |
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12857.5 |
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12859.5 |
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一黨戰爭的部分 |
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12859.5 |
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12861.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
本席在民間聽到的蠻多 |
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12861.5 |
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12863.5 |
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的事很多人他早 |
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12865.5 |
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就已經計劃好了 |
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12867.5 |
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要到中東國家來做 |
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旅遊那麼有一些是自己 |
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訂的沒有問題但是有一些 |
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是跟了旅行社 |
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那旅行社現在就會跟他們講說你要退 |
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錢可以你不去也可以但是 |
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訂金不退甚至於還要要求他們額外 |
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12879.5 |
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12881.5 |
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做一些付費跟負擔那麼 |
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當然旅行社是跟這個外交部沒有 |
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關聯啦是跟 |
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這個交通部比較觀光署相關的 |
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比較有關聯但是本席 |
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在這裡提醒的是喔對於 |
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民眾自發性的自己 |
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在面對現在的這樣一個中東 |
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的局勢跟狀況外交部除了 |
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市井之外我們是一個自由 |
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的國家我們不可能限制人民說 |
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12901.5 |
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那不要去那不可以去我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
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12905.5 |
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只能用燈號來做示警 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
12905.5 |
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12907.5 |
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可是第一個包括救助的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
12907.5 |
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12909.5 |
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如何的讓民眾了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
12909.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
12911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
如何來救援求援之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
12911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
12913.5 |
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是不是外交部也應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
12913.5 |
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12915.5 |
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跟交通部相關的單位 |
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12915.5 |
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12917.5 |
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對於這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
12917.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
12919.5 |
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有一些業者他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
12919.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
12921.5 |
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用這種方式逼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
12921.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
12923.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
已經付錢的這個國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
12923.5 |
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12925.5 |
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我訂金不來就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
12925.5 |
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12927.5 |
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我還要再額外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
12927.89 |
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12929.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
一筆什麼費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
12929.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
12931.89 |
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像這樣的狀況會逼著 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
12931.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
12933.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
民眾往前走那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
12933.89 |
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12935.89 |
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有沒有可能透過外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
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12937.89 |
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交通部能夠 |
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12937.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
12939.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
了解有沒有這樣的狀況因為我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
12939.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
12941.89 |
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現在看到問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
12941.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
12943.89 |
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關鍵啦我舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
12943.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
12945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
一個例子分享當然我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
12945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
12947.89 |
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外交部長我不是先前的交通部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
12947.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
12949.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
不過在這個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
12949.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
12951.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
武漢肺炎疫情發生的第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
12951.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
12953.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
時間我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
12953.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
12955.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
管制禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
12955.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
12957.89 |
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一些航班 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
12957.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
12959.89 |
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那也影響到旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
12959.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
12961.89 |
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旅行社其實都很有組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
12961.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
12963.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
我們可以跟他們的工協會討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
12963.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
12965.89 |
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做適當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
12965.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
12967.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
一個補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
12967.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
12969.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
然後他們少損失一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
12969.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
12971.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
但也不要都有他們出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
12971.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
12973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
他們會轉嫁給旅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
12973.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
12975.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
旅客就是說我不去我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
12975.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
12977.89 |
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就虧了可是我去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
12977.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
12979.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
又有一些風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
12979.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
12981.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
我覺得在這個關鍵時刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
12981.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
12983.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
我想大家都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
12983.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
12985.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
政府如果可以出面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
12985.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
12987.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
透過旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
12987.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
12989.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
然後讓這些已經訂票 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
12989.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
12991.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
要出遊的大家都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
12991.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
12993.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
減少一點損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
12993.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
12995.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
這個可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
12995.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
12997.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
避免現在又有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
12997.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
12999.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
不少人又要去度拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
12999.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13001.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
這個也是一個對我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13001.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13003.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13003.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13005.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
只有的才處理完兩千四百多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13005.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13007.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
現在新的又一支出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13007.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13009.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
這個是因為已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13009.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13011.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
戰爭發生三個禮拜了不是說剛發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13011.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13013.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
所以我們也不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13013.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13015.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
請大家都一定不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13015.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13017.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
因為我們是一個法治的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13017.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13019.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
所以倒是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13019.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13021.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
一個整體算一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13021.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13023.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
看多少預算可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13023.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13025.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
這是委員您的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13025.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13027.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
我是非常抱歉 因為特別提出來質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13027.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13029.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
就是說因為剛剛前面好多委員都在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13029.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13031.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
是不是處理好了有沒有處理完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13031.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13033.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
現在也都講了都處理好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13033.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13035.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
我們現在就是要面對這樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13035.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13037.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
因為戰爭什麼要停止我們無法決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13037.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13039.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
但是至少我們要認知到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13039.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13045.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
確實在民間還有可能潛在的會進行旅遊或移動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13045.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13047.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
那這裡本席通過質詢也要提醒外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13047.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
雖然這不是外交部主責 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
但是外交部絕對必須要跟交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
來做一個通盤的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13055.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
好嗎那因為時間到了後面還有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13055.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13057.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
所以我的質詢就到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13057.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13059.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
謝謝委員保護了一切 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13059.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13061.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
是不是在讓本席以及委員會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13061.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13063.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
我們接下來請賴氏保護委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13069.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13071.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13078.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13078.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
有請外交部的林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13082.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13087.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13089.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
回好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13089.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13091.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
部長你好春風滿面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13093.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13093.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
最近你很紅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
你講到你那個回應那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13099.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
千娜、瓜虎、台灣、瓜虎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13099.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13101.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13102.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13106.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
你說三月底之前會他們會善意回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13108.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
他們外交部有表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13108.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
會怎麼樣會怎麼樣回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13112.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
他知道我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13112.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13114.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
那他們研究跟相關的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13114.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13116.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
諮商之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13116.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13118.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
來回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13118.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13120.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
他們要收回去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13119.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13123.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
你說三月底會有回覆是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13123.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13125.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
那我們有跟他這個交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13125.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
我們要什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13129.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
也告訴他說我們當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13129.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13131.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
要壓個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13131.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
不然無限期拖下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
雖然他們現在已經有暫緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
把紙本跟這個電子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
這個卡整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
整電子卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
但是這個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13145.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
也代表他有重視我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13145.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13147.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
那訴求是我們訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13147.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
就是什麼啦我們的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
就是尊重我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13153.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
所以要寫什麼我們要反散中國台灣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13154.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13156.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
不要把我們變成中國台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13156.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13158.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
不要寫中國寫台灣就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13158.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13160.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13160.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
我們在世界各國大部分都是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
要講清楚啊你訴求沒有聽清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
川普也這樣講台灣是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13168.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13168.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13170.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
沒關係你這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13170.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13172.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
可是你現在說很大聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
動作很虛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13177.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
人家講你掐了關乎台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13177.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13179.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
這是實打實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13179.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13181.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
這叫實錘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13181.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13183.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
按照你的觀點就把你矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13183.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13185.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
這實錘可是你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13185.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13187.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
我要稱它為南韓這個虛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13188.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13190.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
虛虛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13190.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
這把韓國白書是南韓啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13192.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
這個來講的話你隨便去Google |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13194.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
隨便去看這是一個中心名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13196.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
沒有任何的海話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13198.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13200.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
報告點員他們接受了大韓民國啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13201.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
不管怎麼樣你把它講南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13203.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13205.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
說南韓他可以接受啊你隨便去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13205.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
隨便去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13207.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
報告點員十年前他跟我們拜託再拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13209.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13211.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
就是不要叫他們南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13211.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13213.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
叫大韓民國啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13214.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13216.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
簡稱韓國耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13216.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13218.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
你要真的去用這個來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13218.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
我們叫做實錘的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13222.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
應該講什麼北朝鮮關乎南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13222.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13224.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13224.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
這個我建議我們是不是要待會反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13228.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
如果你要反應我們也一切啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13228.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13230.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
這個東西對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13230.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
如果你把它做成絕對的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13234.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
增加我們談判的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13234.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13236.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
增加你空間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13236.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
這個才實錘嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
人家實錘你是虛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
南韓這東西你隨便Google |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
13244.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
南韓中信名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
13244.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13246.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
韓國本來就是南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
13246.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
13248.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
那樣我們北韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
13248.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13250.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
他們是稱為他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
13250.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13252.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
世上國號叫大韓民國不是南韓喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
13252.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
13254.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
我們很少講大韓民國啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
13254.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13256.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
這麼落口或者你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
13256.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13258.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
你要禁一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
13258.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13259.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
幹你什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
13259.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13261.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
13260.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13262.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
說啊改回來韓城 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
13263.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13265.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
這委員的建議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
13265.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13267.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
要更刺激 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
13267.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13269.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
我們這列入啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
13269.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13271.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
就是說我們會反應委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
13271.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13273.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
你都可以去跟他談啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
13273.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
我們做球給你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
13275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
這叫實錘你是虛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
13277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
部長你打高空 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
13279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
13281.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
這虛的你非常虛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
13281.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13283.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
外交就是要虛實相宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
13283.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13285.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
13285.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13287.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
都是實也不能都是虛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
13287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
這樣要死的喔就這麼這樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
13289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
就開始了你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
13291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
13293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
台灣去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
13293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
13295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
13295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
13297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
185萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
13297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
13299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
你要不要請交通部說我們開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
13301.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
13303.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
不要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
13303.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
13305.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
我們滿利益錢不要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
13305.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
13307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
你敢不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
13307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
13309.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
這是我們政府跟政府的交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
13309.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
13311.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
我們民間的交往還是非常熱絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
13311.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
13313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
所以這裡就沒武器了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
13313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
13315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
不然就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
13315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
13317.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
貿易逆差一兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
13317.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
13319.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
我們讓韓國賺一兆多你敢不敢武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
13319.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
13321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
說你這樣對我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
13321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
13323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
我就跟你嘿這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
13323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
13325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
我加強檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
13325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
13327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
那個地方我給你不要出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
13327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
13329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
你敢不敢你敢不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
13329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
13331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
公共也不敢貿易的東西也不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
13331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
13333.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
你就虛的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
13333.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
13335.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
我們要講道理告訴他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
13335.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
13337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
13337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
13339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
國與國之間不是講道理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
13339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
13341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
國與國之間講實力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
13341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
13343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
我們也是以實力做後盾嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
13343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
13345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
你有實力在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
13345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
13347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
我們怎麼樣採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
13347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
13349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
讓台灣人少去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
13351.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
13353.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
13353.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
13355.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
我們讓韓國的東西少進來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
13355.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
13357.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
這個就是實力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
13357.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
13359.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
你實力也擺在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
13359.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
13361.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
你可以用武器不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
13361.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
13363.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
你敢不敢說我能能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
13363.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
13365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
我們還是期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
13365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
13367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
韓國政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
13367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
13369.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
他能夠就是說務實的處理這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
13369.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
13371.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
這個我的感覺啊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
13371.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
13373.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
人家是打你一個很大的巴掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
13373.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
13375.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
然後你輕輕碰一下他的衣服 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
13375.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
13377.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
這樣了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
13377.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
13379.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
這樣這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
13379.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
13381.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
我替你很委屈耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
13381.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
13383.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
外交部長我替你委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
13383.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
13385.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
我知道這堅韌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
13385.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
13387.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
我們就是從事一切方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
13387.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
13389.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
捍衛我們的國格啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
13389.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
13391.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
然後也是要注重我們雙方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
13391.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
13393.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
所以也是有很多來往的關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
13393.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
13395.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
不堅韌就不會找你當部長了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
13395.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
13397.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
當然堅韌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
13397.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
13399.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
大家也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
13398.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
13400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
中華民國的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
13400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
13402.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
到現在為止沒有哪一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
13402.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
13404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
是不困難的都非常困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
13404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
13406.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
來我再問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
13406.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
13408.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
盧修彥市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
13408.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
13410.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
13410.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
13412.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
你認識的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
13412.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
13414.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
認識啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
13414.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
13416.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
請問他去美國你有沒有幫助安排活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
13416.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
13418.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
我們都是全力協助啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
13418.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
13420.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
任何不管國會議員或是縣市首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
13420.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
13422.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
這個對我們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
13422.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
13424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
都是總和外交耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
13424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
13426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
當然是外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
13426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
13428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
這外交就不分黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
13428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
13430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
像我跟江啟臣副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
13430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
13432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
一起到了布拉格啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
13432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
13434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
我們就在故宮文武宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
13434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
13436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
他去不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
13436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
13438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
巴拉圭或現在去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
13438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
13440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
澳洲我們也都全力協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
13440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
13442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
立法院走出去就是代表我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
13442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
13444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
那佐隆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
13444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
13446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
台院長去日本看棒球 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
13446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
13448.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
你們有沒有幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
13448.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
13450.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
13450.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
13452.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
有沒有幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
13452.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
13454.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
我們外交部做我們外交部該做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
13454.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
13456.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
所以有幫忙嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
13456.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
13458.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
一定都會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
13458.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
13460.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
當然啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
13460.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
13462.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
大家這個東西就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
13462.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
13464.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
大概天窗說亮話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
13464.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
13466.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
他去了你一定知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
13466.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
13468.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
不知道的話你可以下台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
13468.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
13470.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
第二個你一定有幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
13470.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
13472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
沒有幫忙你也可以下台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
13472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
13474.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
因為他定位在私人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
13474.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
13476.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
13476.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
13478.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
那是該做的事還要做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
13478.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
13480.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
但是行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
13480.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
13482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
就算你外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
13482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
13484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
24小時都是外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
13484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
13486.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
沒有說我今天去應援不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
13486.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
13488.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
我今天應援不是外交部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
13488.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
13490.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
我叫林佳龍教授或者什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
13490.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
13492.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
沒有那東西啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
13492.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
13494.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
佐隆台24小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
13494.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
13496.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
一年365天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
13496.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
13498.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
就是行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
13498.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
13500.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
沒有什麼私人行程啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
13500.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
13502.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
所以你一定要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
13502.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
13504.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
你一定要幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
13504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
13505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
否則你就死死 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
13505.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
13507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
13507.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
13509.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
就是因為日本叫你不要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
13509.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
13511.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
所以你不要講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
13511.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
13513.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
所以委員講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
13513.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
13515.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
是啊所以你也沒有否認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
13515.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
13517.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
這個我們也辛苦啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
13517.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
13519.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
我就回憶起當初跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
13518.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
13520.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
跟前副 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
13520.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
13522.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
那時候我當時國內代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
13522.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
13524.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
他是國內代表的議長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
13525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
13527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
他帶了一兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
13527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
13529.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
國內代表去跟日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
13529.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
13531.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
經濟部長日本的交通部長見面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
13531.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
13533.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
他告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
13533.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
13535.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
我那時候學到了他說跟日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
13535.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
13537.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
食指能夠碰到這個隔遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
13537.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
13539.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
對外絕對不能嗆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
13540.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
13542.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
否則就滅第二次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
13542.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
13544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
所以我們理解不能講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
13544.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
13546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
13546.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
13548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
這不是什麼私人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
13548.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
13550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
這就是公務行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
13550.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
13552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
然後外界不知道外界都有幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
13552.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
13554.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
就清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
13555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
13557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
13558.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
13562.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
我們接下來請中嘉賓委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
13572.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
13574.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
主席在場委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
13574.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
13576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
列席的任務就讓市長官員會長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
13576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
13578.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
觀眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
13578.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
13580.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
有請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
13585.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
13587.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
部長我們算是認識很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
13587.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
13589.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
從大學一起嘛你是我的學長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
13589.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
13591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
如果看到同學有些口角 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
13591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
13593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
你是為了勸架還是三分點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
13593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
13595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
我將他們打起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
13596.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
13598.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
當然是勸和啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
13598.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
13600.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
所以如果有人說好你將他打下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
13600.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
13602.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
這種人的話你不要聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
13602.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
13604.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
你知道我在講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
13604.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
13606.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
來請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
13604.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
13606.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
TECO啊是商標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
13607.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
13609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
TECO我們外交部有一些地方叫TECO |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
13609.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
13611.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
可是我們常看到TECO是動員電機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
13614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
13616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
所以這個TECO是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
13616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
13618.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
是這個嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
13618.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
13620.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
台北經濟文化辦事處對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
13621.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
13623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
是這樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
13623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
13625.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
好可是國人不見得熟來考你一下一般人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
13625.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
13627.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
iPhone聽過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
13628.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
13630.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
iPhone就是iPhone啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
13630.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
13632.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
會愛咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
13632.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
13634.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
會愛就是會愛啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
13634.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
13636.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
那請問一下啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
13636.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
13638.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
這個TECO的TR是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
13638.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
13640.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
代表Taipei還是Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
13641.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
13643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
看那個地方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
13643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
13645.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
看什麼地方呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
13645.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
13647.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
如果是在我們的住處的牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
13647.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
13649.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
他是寫Taipei啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
13649.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
13651.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
但是如果我們網路上外交部的社群平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
13651.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
13653.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
都是寫Taiwan啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
13653.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
13655.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
所以你這個T到底是Taiwan還是Taipei |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
13655.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
13657.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
有什麼趨勢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
13657.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
13659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
登記名字剛才講嘛Taipei嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
13659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
13661.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
登記的時候早年登記是Taipei |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
13661.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
13663.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
但是現在我們自己表達都用Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
13663.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
13665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
不只如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
13665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
13667.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
不只Taiwan現在我們自己表達Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
13667.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
13669.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
美國也是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
13669.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
13671.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
美國是要展現Taiwan的主權意向啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
13671.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
13673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
Taiwan保證落實法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
13673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
13675.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
是不是讓我們政經局副院長去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
13675.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
13677.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
Taiwan的國旗跟美國的國旗並列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
13677.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
13679.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
這是政治的官方場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
13679.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
13681.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
13681.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
13683.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
是不是過去我們的軍事人員跟他們交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
13683.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
13685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
都不能做軍服 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
13685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
13687.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
現在可以明白的把我們的備彰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
13687.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
13689.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
Taiwan的國旗放上去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
13690.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
13692.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
13692.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
13694.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
川普也講Taiwan is Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
13694.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
13696.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
所以誠實地圖條款川普還下令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
13696.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
13698.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
只要是聯邦政府出資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
13698.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
13700.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
地圖上不能把Taiwan化為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
13700.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
13702.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
中國的一部分有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
13702.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
13704.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
所以這是美國主動修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
13704.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
13706.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
來展現我們Taiwan的主權意向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
13706.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
13708.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
外交部有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
13709.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
13711.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
有沒有去參與推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
13712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
13714.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
不能講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
13714.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
13716.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
有啦但是不方便講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
13716.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
13718.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
我們當然是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
13718.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
13720.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
落實川普總統講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
13720.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
13722.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
Taiwan is Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
13722.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
13724.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
13724.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
13726.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
其實美國國會通過很多友台法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
13726.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
13728.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
2026國防授權法案對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
13728.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
13730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
無人載具的產業可以合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
13730.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
13732.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
台美的海巡人員可以合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
13732.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
13734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
譬如說Taiwan國際團結法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
13734.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
13736.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
禁止中國打彎台灣的國際處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
13736.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
13738.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
甚至呢終結中國對台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
13738.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
13740.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
威脅法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
13740.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
13742.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
不斷中國的金流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
13742.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
13744.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
請問外交部美國國會通過友台法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
13744.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
13746.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
你們都知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
13747.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
13749.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
都知道列了一張長長的表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
13749.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
13751.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
很好哪些友台的議員推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
13751.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
13753.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
已經通過了努力中要通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
13754.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
13756.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
那這個你有去拜託嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
13756.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
13758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
跨黨派的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
13758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
13760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
這個動輒連署都是幾十人上拜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
13760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
13762.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
那這些你有主動去拜託過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
13763.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
13767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
我們美處整天都在國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
13767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
13769.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
還是說他們議員有來訪過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
13769.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
13771.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
就覺得要幫台灣推動這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
13773.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
13777.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
我們都會跟他們在推動這些法案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
13777.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
13779.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
做很好的溝通配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
13781.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
13783.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
部長是不是這些法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
13783.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
13785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
都有這幾位重量級的國會議員在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
13785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
13787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
譬如說眾院的台灣連線主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
13787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
13789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
13789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
13791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
譬如說軍事委員會的主席參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
13791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
13793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
譬如說外交委員會的亞太小組的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
13793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
13795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
還有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
13795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
13797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
連民主黨的首席參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
13797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
13799.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
都是嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
13799.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
13801.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
這些你都熟嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
13801.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
13803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
達克沃斯這個女參議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
13803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
13805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
我們印象深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
13805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
13807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
他們都沒有來過台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
13807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
13809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
我有包粽子給他吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
13809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
13811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
13811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
13813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
所以你看請他來包粽子給他吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
13813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
13815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
他感受到台灣的友情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
13815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
13817.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
回去就持續推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
13817.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
13819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
台美關係強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
13819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
13821.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
13821.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
13823.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
所以部長要不要多邀請一些來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
13824.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
13826.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
那你們部長我們預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
13826.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
13828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
要趕快通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
13828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
13830.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
是是是所以再講給大家聽嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
13830.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
13832.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
我要規劃不然來不及你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
13832.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
13834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
沒有錯但是除了這些邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
13834.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
13836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
有台國會議員來訪台可以促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
13836.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
13838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
台美關係深化跟實質化之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
13838.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
13840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
我們怎麼樣還可以促進台美關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
13840.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
13842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
我們台灣的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
13842.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
13844.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
除了去日本巨蛋球場幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
13844.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
13846.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
聽Taiwan加油之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
13846.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
13848.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
我們在美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
13848.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
13850.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
我們的僑胞們他可以怎麼樣來促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
13850.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
13852.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
兩國的關係是不是有聽說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
13852.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
13854.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
13854.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
13856.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
13856.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
13858.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
13858.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
13860.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
13860.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
13862.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
13862.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
13864.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
13864.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
13866.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
13866.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
13868.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
13868.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
13870.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
13870.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
13872.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
13872.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
13874.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
13874.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
13876.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
13876.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
13878.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
13878.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
13880.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
13861.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
13863.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
拇指直我們Fa Za |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
13863.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
13865.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
要求國會陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
13865.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
13867.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
讓台灣的住處證明Taiwan |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
13868.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
13869.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
我們樂觀其成啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
13869.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
13871.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
樂觀其成 暗中失利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
13872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
13873.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
13873.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
13876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
我覺得民間自發的在推動這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
13876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
13877.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
我想對於美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
13877.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
13878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
美國是個民主的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
13878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
13879.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
很重視民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
13879.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
13879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
13879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
13880.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
13880.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
13881.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
國下而上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
13881.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
13881.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
13881.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
13883.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
然後跨黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
13883.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
13885.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
然後行政立法部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
13885.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
13887.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
都能夠來進行遊說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
13887.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
13887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
13887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
13889.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
外交部不只我們有具體的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
13889.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
13891.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
告訴其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
13891.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
13892.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
不可以矮化台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
13892.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
13893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
不可以把台灣扭去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
13893.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
13894.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
他們的國格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
13894.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
13896.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
覆轍在中國底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
13896.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
13897.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
我們在美國的住處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
13897.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
13899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
13899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
13900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
就像您剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
13900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
13901.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
川普說沒什麼要問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
13901.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
13902.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
台灣就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
13902.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
13902.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
13902.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
13904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
他們的盧比歐國務卿也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
13904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
13905.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
台灣不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
13905.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
13906.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
美國不會把台灣當籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
13906.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
13907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
跟中國換取任何協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
13907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
13908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
13908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
13909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
這都是他們公開講過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
13909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
13910.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
13910.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
13911.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
13911.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
13913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
現在我們在美國的住處有幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
13914.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
13916.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
我們現在代表住處有12個辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
13916.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
13917.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
12個我怎麼寫呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
13917.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
13918.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
我查這13個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
13919.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
13920.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
代表處算一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
13920.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
13921.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
代表處算一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
13921.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
13922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
所以12加1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
13922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
13925.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
有沒有把握未來這些代表處跟辦事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
13925.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
13927.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
讓他證明台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
13927.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
13929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
因為這也涉及到我們跟美國之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
13929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
13930.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
13930.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
13931.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
社處的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
13931.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
13931.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
13931.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
13933.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
所以需要美國國會議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
13933.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
13934.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
推動友台法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
13934.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
13936.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
需要我們台灣的僑團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
13936.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
13938.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
聯署請願 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
13938.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
13940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
請美國民主國家尊重民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
13940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
13941.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
把這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
13941.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
13944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
讓台灣就是台灣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
13944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
13944.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
13944.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
13946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
那我現在問你一個私下的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
13946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
13947.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
來我們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
13947.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
13948.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
台積電在鳳凰城設廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
13948.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
13949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
你喜歡哪個名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
13949.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
13950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
台灣科技園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
13950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
13952.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
還是台美產業園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
13953.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
13955.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
這都可以納入討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
13955.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
13956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
都納入討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
13956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
13956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
我也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
13956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
13958.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
如果這兩個名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
13958.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
13959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
任何一個我都接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
13959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
13960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
也希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
13960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
13963.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
能夠去私下推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
13963.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
13965.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
讓台積電在美國的設廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
13965.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
13967.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
明明白白的告訴人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
13967.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
13969.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
這是台灣的科技園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
13969.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
13970.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
在美國科學園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
13970.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
13972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
我們台灣的科學園區是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
13972.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
13973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
世界上的一個楷模 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
13973.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
13975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
也讓世界知道好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
13975.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
13975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
13975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
13976.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
13976.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
13976.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
13977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
13978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
13981.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
13982.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
13982.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
13984.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
請王鴻威委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
13993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
13994.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
13994.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
13996.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
13996.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
13997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
14003.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
14004.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
部長 |
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14004.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
14004.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
喂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
14004.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
14005.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
14005.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
14006.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
我知道我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
14006.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
14008.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
其實要維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
14008.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
14009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
還有經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
14009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
14011.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
我們中華民國的對外關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
14011.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
14013.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
是非常非常艱苦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
14013.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
14014.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
因為台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
14014.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
14017.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
國際的這個外交情勢的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
14017.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
14019.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
確實是是很難的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
14019.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
14022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
那我剛在上來之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
14022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
14023.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
有人傳給我一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
14023.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
14025.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
14025.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
14027.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
PTT有一個爆料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
14027.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
14029.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
那個爆料呢是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
14029.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
14030.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
14030.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
14032.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
日本針對這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
14032.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
14034.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
卓榮泰院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
14034.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
14036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
到日本去看球 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
14036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
14037.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
那在這之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
14037.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
14038.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
其實呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
14038.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
14039.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
日本政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
14039.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
14040.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
14040.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
14041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
當然是日本政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
14041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
14042.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
不會不知情的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
14042.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
14044.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
不管是之前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
14044.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
14045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
我們的賴副 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
14045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
14046.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
當時賴清德 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
14046.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
14048.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
以副總統身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
14048.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
14049.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
到日本去做調驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
14049.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
14052.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
或者是卓榮泰院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
14052.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
14053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
去看球 |
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14053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
14055.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
那當然日本是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
14055.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
14057.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
不要有任何的驚喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
14057.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
14059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
也不要把它變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
14059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
14061.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
是一個外交的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
14061.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
14063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
但是因為這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
14063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
14065.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
後來的曝光 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
14065.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
14068.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
使得這個爆料的內容是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
14068.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
14071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
日本高層極為震怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
14071.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
14072.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
14072.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
14074.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
我們我方還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
14074.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
14075.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
去跟這個 |
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14075.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
14077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
日本相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
14077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
14079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
14079.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
14080.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
因為我剛來之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
14080.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
14081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
我看到有人傳給我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
14081.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
14082.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
14082.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
14085.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
已經有這樣的一個爆料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
14085.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
14086.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
我不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
14086.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
14088.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
他們這樣的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
14088.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
14090.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
因為這樣的一個這個敘述 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
14090.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
14091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
最近以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
14091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
14093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
其實我們都一直有聽聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
14093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
14094.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
所以請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
14094.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
14095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
部長知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
14095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
14097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
有這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
14097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
14099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
還是你們所瞭解這個爆料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
14099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
14101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
完全是子虛烏有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
14101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
14102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
還是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
14102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
14103.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
它其來有之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
14104.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
14104.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
14104.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
14106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
我還沒有看到這個爆料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
14106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
14108.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
我會加以瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
14108.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
14110.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
那我想雙方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
14110.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
14112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
卓院長有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
14112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
14113.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
已經有公開講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
14113.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
14114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
它這是私人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
14114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
14116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
然後對方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
14116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
14120.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
那個他們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
14120.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
14121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
這個官方長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
14121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
14123.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
他們也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
14123.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
14124.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
根據我方講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
14124.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
14126.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
這是這個私人行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
14126.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
14129.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
所以他們也沒有評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
14129.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
14130.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
14130.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
14131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
14131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
14133.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
可能要趕快去瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
14133.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
14134.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
因為按照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
14134.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
14136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
披露的內容是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
14136.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
14139.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
因為日方得知 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
14139.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
14140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
14140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
14143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
卓院長的這個團裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
14143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
14145.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
還有發言人與攝影官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
14145.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
14147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
也在訪團名單之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
14147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
14148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
14148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
14150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
讓日方質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
14150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
14152.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
是不是有意要對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
14152.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
14153.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
來揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
14153.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
14155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
因為他們希望的是低調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
14155.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
14156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
我剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
14156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
14157.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
不要有任何驚喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
14157.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
14159.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
所以請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
14159.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
14161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
可能要趕快的去瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
14161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
14161.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
14161.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
14162.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
14162.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
14163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
所以其實我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
14163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
14165.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
你可能也有耳聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
14165.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
14166.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
14166.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
14166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
14166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
14167.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
14167.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
14169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
這一陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
14169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
14171.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
事實上在我們台日之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
14171.01 |
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14172.71 |
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一直都有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
14172.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
14173.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
這個傳聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
14173.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
14174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
好另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
14174.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
14176.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
有一件比較重要的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
14176.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
14177.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
是要請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
14177.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
14178.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
14178.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
14179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
今天3月19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
14179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
14181.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
再過兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
14181.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
14181.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
14183.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
14184.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
就職兩週年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
14184.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
14186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
如果我們看過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
14186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
14187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
過去包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
14187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
14189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
蔡英文總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
14189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
14191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
或者馬英九總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
14191.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
14194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
他們在就職兩年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
14194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
14195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
他們都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
14195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
14197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
先後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
14197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
14197.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
以所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
14197.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
14199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
元首外交出擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
14199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
14200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
那都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
14200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
14202.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
對外出訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
14202.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
14203.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
已經達到5次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
14203.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
14205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
不管馬總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
14205.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
14206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
或蔡總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
14206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
14208.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
那陳水扁總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
14208.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
14209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
他比較少是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
14209.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
14210.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
起碼也有3次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
14211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
14212.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
14212.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
14213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
14213.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
14214.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
幾乎都一直宅在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
14214.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
14215.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
14215.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
14216.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
14216.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
14218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
14218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
14218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
14218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
14220.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
在520 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
14220.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
14223.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
賴總統就職兩週年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
14223.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
14225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
賴總統有沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
14225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
14226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
能夠出訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
14226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
14227.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
否則這樣比一比 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
14227.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
14228.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
實在次數太少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
14228.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
14230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
那會讓人家質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
14230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
14232.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
賴總統的元首外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
14232.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
14233.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
做得不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
14234.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
14235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
14235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
14236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
我們當然在評估中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
14236.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
14238.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
是有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
14238.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
14240.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
斯法蒂尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
14240.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
14242.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
政府的這個邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
14242.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
14245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
因為他們是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
14245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
14246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
重大的慶典 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
14246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
14248.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
那其他當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
14248.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
14249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
也有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
14249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
14250.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
我們的友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
14250.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
14253.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
有表達邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
14253.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
14254.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
那因為以前這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
14254.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
14255.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
我們有時候元首出訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
14255.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
14257.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
說一般國事訪問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
14257.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
14258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
也會比較配合慶典 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
14258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
14259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
因為這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
14259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
14259.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
達到效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
14259.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
14261.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
所以現在都會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
14261.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
14261.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
會去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
14261.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
14263.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
我們還在評估中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
14263.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
14265.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
4月說4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
14265.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
14265.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
14265.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
14267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
那就是在520之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
14268.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
14269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
如果4月是在5月之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
14269.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
14270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
對沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
14270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
14272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
所以確實有機會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
14274.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
14275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
14275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
14277.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
其實今天大家很多人問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
14277.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
14278.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
14278.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
14280.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
這個韓國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
14280.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
14283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
對我們的電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
14283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
14285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
用中國台灣方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
14285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
14287.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
那我們予以反制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
14287.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
14288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
那當然在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
14288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
14290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
網路上有人講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
14290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
14292.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
那不如改南朝鮮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
14292.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
14293.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
不然的話其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
14293.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
14295.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
就直接改高黎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
14295.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
14296.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
高黎當年這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
14296.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
14299.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
因為他的宗祖國是中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
14299.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
14301.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
這當然是網友認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
14301.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
14303.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
今天既然我們要反制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
14303.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
14306.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
就要讓人家覺得我們的憤怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
14306.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
14307.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
否則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
14307.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
14308.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
僅僅是這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
14308.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
14310.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
改一個南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
14310.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
14311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
不痛不癢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
14311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
14312.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
無法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
14312.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
14314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
來顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
14314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
14315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
然後讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
14315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
14316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
這個韓國知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
14316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
14319.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
我們對這件事情的憤怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
14319.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
14321.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
那另外一個比較具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
14321.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
14322.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
當然其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
14322.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
14324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
有一個比較我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
14324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
14325.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
最擔心的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
14325.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
14328.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
因為原來他是在2月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
14328.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
14329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
他就要取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
14329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
14331.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
紙本的入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
14331.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
14333.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
那個如果取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
14333.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
14334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
紙本入境卡的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
14334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
14336.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
那變成我們只能要去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
14336.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
14337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
14337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
14339.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
這個先這個電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
14339.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
14340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
不過他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
14340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
14341.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
要延後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
14341.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
14343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
要延後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
14343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
14344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
所以我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
14344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
14346.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
我們抗議聲音大一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
14346.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
14347.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
我們兇一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
14347.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
14348.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
我們在意一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
14348.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
14350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
當然對韓國來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
14350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
14351.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
他至少如果採取 |
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14351.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
14353.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
雙軌並行的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
14353.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
14355.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
那國人可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
14355.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
14356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
可以做選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
14356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
14358.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
所以我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
14358.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
14358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
14358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
14360.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
在我們的交涉過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
14360.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
14362.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
有沒有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
14362.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
14364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
如果韓國拒不 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
14364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
14367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
改我們的這個中國台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
14367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
14368.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
的這樣的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
14368.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
14371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
是不是要求韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
14371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
14373.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
不要取消紙本入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
14374.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
14375.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
14377.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
14379.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
還是要正視我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
14379.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
14381.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
我們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
14381.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
14382.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
我們當然不是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
14382.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
14383.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
憤怒的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
14383.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
14384.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
我們是用不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
14384.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
14385.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
跟他諮商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
14385.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
14387.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
一開始他不太理我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
14387.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
14389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
最近開始有反應了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
14389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
14390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
就剛委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
14390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
14392.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
本來2月就要把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
14392.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
14393.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
紙本取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
14393.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
14394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
他們至少先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
14394.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
14395.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
那有些是緩則緣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
14395.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
14396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
所以我們就開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
14396.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
14397.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
跟他在交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
14397.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
14398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
那交涉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
14398.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
14399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
我們也設了一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
14399.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
14400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
跟方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
14400.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
14401.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
那也先尊重他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
14401.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
14402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
讓他知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
14402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
14403.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
就是說你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
14403.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
14405.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
做什麼我們會做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
14405.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
14406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
你不做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
14406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
14408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
我們大概也會做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
14408.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
14409.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
部長這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
14409.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
14410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
其實我們真的要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
14410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
14411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
高調反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
14411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
14414.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
你知道台灣是韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
14414.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
14416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
就是他的旅遊市場裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
14416.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
14419.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
我們的客源排第幾大嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
14420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
14422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
這個都是前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
14422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
14423.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
我們是前三大 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
14423.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
14424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
我們去那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
14424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
14426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
一百八十幾萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
14426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
14427.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
14427.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
14429.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
我們是前三大 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
14429.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
14431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
所以當然我們的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
14431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
14433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
他們要重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
14433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
14435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
當然也許我們不一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
14435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
14436.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
要把他搞到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
14436.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
14438.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
我們今天就抵制韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
14438.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
14440.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
不去韓國什麼的之類 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
14440.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
14441.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
也不要弄到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
14441.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
14442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
好像你去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
14442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
14444.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
你就變成不愛台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
14444.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
14445.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
我覺得不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
14445.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
14446.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
做這樣的操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
14446.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
14447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
14447.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
14449.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
其實韓國有一種聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
14449.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
14451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
這個南韓政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
14451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
14453.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
應該要從善如流 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
14453.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
14456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
改掉對我們的這個稱呼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
14456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
14457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
所以這個已經有產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
14457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
14460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
他們的韓國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
14460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
14461.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
也覺得他們這麼樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
14461.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
14464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
就如同你剛才講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
14464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
14466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
我們一年去韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
14466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
14468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
超過一百八十萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
14468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
14471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
我們是他的第三大的客源國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
14471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
14473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
那當然我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
14473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
14476.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
就是用比較理性的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
14476.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
14477.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
去做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
14477.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
14478.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
那我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
14478.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
14480.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
所以你今天變成是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
14480.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
14482.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
變成我們給他改成南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
14482.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
14485.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
你當然會被我們自己的網友笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
14485.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
14486.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
就覺得你這種改名 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
14486.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
14488.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
有什麼不痛不癢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
14488.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
14489.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
所以我覺得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
14489.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
14491.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
它既然發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
14491.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
14492.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
一種老講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
14492.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
14495.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
我的建議有一種是鴕鳥建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
14495.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
14497.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
就是說你至少紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
14497.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
14498.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
你要維持住 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
14498.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
14499.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
你讓國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
14499.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
14500.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
我有機會選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
14500.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
14502.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
不然你通通都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
14502.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
14505.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
用電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
14505.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
14506.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
是可能就會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
14506.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
14508.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
那我到底要去不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
14508.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
14510.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
我覺得這是老講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
14510.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
14512.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
我這種建議是比較鴕鳥式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
14512.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
14514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
但是我還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
14514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
14516.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
我們既然要做抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
14516.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
14518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
就不要做半套好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
14518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
14519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
不然你這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
14519.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
14521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
真的會被國人笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
14521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
14522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
那就絕一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
14522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
14525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
真的改南朝鮮改高禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
14525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
14527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
在歷史上它確實曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
14527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
14528.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
什麼大宋高禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
14528.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
14529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
什麼大元高禮 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
14529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
14530.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
什麼都有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
14530.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
14531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
14531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
14533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
我們不希望去開啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
14533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
14536.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
這種什麼樣的外交的這種征戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
14536.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
14538.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
但是我覺得基本的互惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
14538.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
14540.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
這是必須要維持的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
14540.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
14541.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
好對等跟尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
14541.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
14542.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
對 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
14544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
14545.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
14547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
14549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
接下來請羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
14549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
14550.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
羅志強 羅志強委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
14550.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
14553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
請楊瓊英 楊瓊英 楊瓊英委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
14553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
14555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
請陳青龍委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
14566.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
14568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
14568.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
14569.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
14574.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
14575.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
喂好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
14575.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
14576.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
14576.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
14577.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
喂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
14577.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
14579.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
回尾八年嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
14579.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
14580.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
14580.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
14583.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
都沒有跟我們部長在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
14584.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
14585.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
14585.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
14588.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
在議事廳上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
14588.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
14590.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
對阿所以整整八年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
14590.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
14591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
那今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
14592.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
14594.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
我對部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
14594.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
14597.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
針對我們今天已經有好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
14597.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
14598.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
好多外委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
14598.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
14601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
針對我們把韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
14601.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
14603.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
對我們的入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
14603.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
14606.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
從去年二月其實就更改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
14607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
14608.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
但是到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
14608.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
14611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
我們外交部終於有動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
14611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
14613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
那部長今天也直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
14613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
14615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
做外媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
14615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
14617.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
在委員會的巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
14617.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
14619.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
通通都改稱為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
14619.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
14620.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
南韓了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
14620.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
14621.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
14621.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
14623.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
那肯定部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
14623.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
14625.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
那再來我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
14625.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
14626.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
我們一直主張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
14627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
14631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
就是我們要相互尊重平等對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
14631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
14632.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
14632.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
14633.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
14633.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
14635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
那你現在給南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
14636.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
14638.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
三月三喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
14638.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
14639.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
希望他有一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
14640.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
14642.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
如果他根本不管你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
14642.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
14643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
那我們外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
14643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
14646.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
有沒有更積極的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
14646.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
14647.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
14647.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
14648.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
14648.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
14649.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
我們是從三月一號開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
14649.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
14650.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
14650.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
14653.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
南韓的這個在台的僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
14653.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
14654.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
這個拘留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
14654.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
14655.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
你先改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
14655.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
14656.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
先改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
14656.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
14657.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
14657.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
14658.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
14658.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
14659.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
我們當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
14659.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
14660.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
這個入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
14660.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
14661.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
14661.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
14663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
這個就電子這個卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
14663.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
14666.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
的那個表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
14666.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
14668.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
所以我們外交部能做也就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
14668.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
14669.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
14669.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
14670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
三月三喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
14670.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
14671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
14671.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
14672.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
14673.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
14674.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
14674.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
14675.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
14675.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
14677.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
原來的電子入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
14677.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
14678.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
還是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
14678.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
14679.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
全南台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
14680.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
14681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
那紙板 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
14681.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
14682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
給你保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
14682.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
14683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
他就是這樣的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
14683.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
14685.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
你外交部就吞了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
14685.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
14686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
14686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
14687.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
14687.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
14689.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
我們就三月底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
14689.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
14690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
他要回應我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
14690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
14693.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
不是是現在這個情形的保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
14693.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
14694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
你有把握嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
14694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
14696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
我沒有辦法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
14696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
14697.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
超市在我百分百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
14697.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
14699.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
但超市在我的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
14699.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
14701.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
我就是把他做到百分百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
14701.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
14702.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
14702.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
14705.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
這個就看我們外交部怎麼作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
14706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
14707.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
14707.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
14708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
看外交部的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
14710.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
14712.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
今天很多委員也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
14713.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
14714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
14714.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
14717.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
美國議長中中戰爭這個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
14718.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
14719.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
關於撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
14719.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
14720.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
呼僑這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
14721.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
14723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
應該都提出很多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
14723.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
14724.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
已經很多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
14725.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
14727.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
那我現在直接問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
14729 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
14730 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
不准 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
14729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
14730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
到今天為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
14730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
14732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
我們在中東 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
14732.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
14735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
在這樣的一個戰爭威脅之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
14735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
14738.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
我們還有多少僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
14738.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
14740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
或是我們的國人同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
14740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
14741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
要回來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
14741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
14742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
還沒有回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
14742.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
14744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
到目前為止還有人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
14744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
14745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
14745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
14748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
因為我們有公布三個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
14748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
14750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
已經協助回來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
14750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
14751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
14751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
14752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
你們有公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
14752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
14755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
現在將近三千人了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
14755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
14756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
14756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
14757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
我們都隨時密切注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
14757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
14761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
至少我們在地的這些僑民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
14761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
14762.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
我們都掌握到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
14762.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
14763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
目前沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
14763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
14765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
我們都主動聯繫是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
14765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
14767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
但至於說觀光旅遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
14767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
14769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
因為有出有進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
14769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
14771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
進進出出又有一些新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
14771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
14773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
我們現在也請交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
14773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
14775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
跟觀光署跟旅行社 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
14775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
14777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
能夠密切聯繫把這個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
14777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
14778.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
跟我們同步 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
14778.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
14779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
我會想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
14781.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
14782.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
14782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
14783.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
你們過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
14784.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
14785.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
14785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
14788.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
這個人生生命的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
14788.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
14790.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
碰到這樣的一個戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
14790.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
14793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
或是這個緊急的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
14793.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
14794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
14794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
14795.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
兩黨就是第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
14796.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
14798.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
要不然還擔不起這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
14798.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
14800.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
那過去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
14800.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
14802.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
14802.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
14803.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
對包機啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
14803.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
14805.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
我們也曾經有包機過嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
14805.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
14808.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
包括過去我的資料來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
14808.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
14810.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
過去我們曾經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
14812.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
14813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
再見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
14814.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
14816.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
二戰爭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
14817.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
14819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
還有在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
14819.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
14821.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
以色列跟哈馬斯的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
14821.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
14822.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
我們曾經都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
14822.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
14823.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
這樣的一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
14823.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
14824.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
14824.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
14826.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
這一次在我們的中東 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
14826.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
14827.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
美伊的戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
14827.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
14830.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
我們根本把這個包機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
14830.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
14833.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
這個讓國人可以回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
14833.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
14834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
14834.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
14835.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
我們把它列為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
14835.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
14837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
甚至沒有把它列為備案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
14837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
14839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
都直接啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
14839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
14841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
做保持說有聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
14841.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
14842.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
14842.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
14844.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
更改集會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
14844.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
14845.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
更改航班 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
14845.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
14846.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
做這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
14846.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
14848.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
當然這很多是旅行團的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
14848.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
14851.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
我知道你早上已經解釋很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
14851.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
14853.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
但是我要談的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
14853.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
14855.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
今天我們不管旅行團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
14855.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
14856.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
不管國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
14856.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
14859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
他可能透過國際友好國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
14859.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
14860.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
包括日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
14860.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
14862.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
就是有協助我們了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
14862.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
14864.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
但是我們有部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
14864.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
14866.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
是由大陸這邊幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
14866.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
14867.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
14867.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
14869.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
為了國人的生命安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
14869.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
14870.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
其實能夠平安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
14870.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
14872.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
回到台灣是最好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
14872.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
14874.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
但是我這邊就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
14874.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
14877.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
有一天還是要跟我們執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
14877.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
14879.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
14880.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
14881.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
明明回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
14881.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
14884.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
我們還是要用政治作戰來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
14885.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
14887.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
還是要用認知作戰來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
14887.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
14889.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
包括部長你早上也提 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
14889.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
14891.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
包括我們講南韓韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
14891.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
14893.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
我們有一些網路的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
14893.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
14895.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
部長還是會把他找引說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
14895.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
14898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
這是網民的認知作戰等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
14898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
14899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
我在這裡講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
14899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
14900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
部分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
14900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
14901.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
一開始不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
14901.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
14902.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
一開始比較正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
14902.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
14904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
我覺得我們做一個執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
14904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
14906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
我們還是要很正面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
14906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
14909.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
很正面的去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
14909.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
14911.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
我們國人同胞的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
14911.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
14914.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
所以我在這邊強烈建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
14914.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
14915.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
我們以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
14915.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
14917.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
過去由日本合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
14917.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
14918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
有一個經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
14918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
14920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
我們也曾經透過美國的幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
14920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
14922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
我們外交部應該要一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
14922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
14923.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
跨國的協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
14923.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
14926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
來精進保護我們的國人同胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
14926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
14927.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
在國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
14927.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
14929.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
國外有生命危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
14929.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
14932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
立刻要呼喬撤僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
14932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
14935.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
能夠來做一個SOP |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
14935.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
14938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
一個標準的一個這個流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
14940.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
14942.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
我跟委員報告幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
14942.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
14945.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
第一點行政院是有召開過會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
14945.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
14948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
有關於要不要包機或專機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
14948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
14950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
去所謂撤僑或護僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
14950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
14954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
但是後來行政院的決定並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
14954.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
14956.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
這是行政院的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
14956.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
14959.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
但是這一部外交部作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
14959.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
14961.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
我們都是準備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
14961.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
14964.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
我們外交部應該要去吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
14964.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
14966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
當然我要跟委員報告的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
14966.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
14968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
其實我們的管處跟美日 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
14968.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
14970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
這些國家都要協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
14970.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
14973.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
讓我們台灣人一整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
14973.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
14974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
會生命安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
14974.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
14975.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
讓人家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
14975.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
14979.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
真的我們台灣就是我們最重要的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
14979.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
14981.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
我跟委員舉這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
14981.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
14982.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
比如說以色列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
14982.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
14985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
我們是隨時跟其他國家派駐的大團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
14985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
14988.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
我們講過的跨國協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
14988.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
14990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
我們會把它當作重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
14990.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
14992.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
因為我們自己做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
14992.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
14994.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
有些友盟可能可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
14994.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
14996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
這樣下去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
14996.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
14997.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
14997.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
14998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
15001.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
15002.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
15002.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
15005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
接下來請鄭政前委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
15005.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
15009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
請蔡依渝委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
15009.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
15011.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
請陳冠廷委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
15023.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
15025.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
主席 請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
15025.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
15026.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
15032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
15033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
15033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
15034.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
部長好 部長我們先從 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
15034.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
15036.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
每周這邊開始講起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
15038.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
15039.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
直接問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
15039.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
15041.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
我們在中南美 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
15041.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
15043.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
有過去許多搬交過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
15043.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
15044.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
最近有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
15044.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
15045.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
有沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
15045.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
15046.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
來去復交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
15046.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
15048.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
或者是來拓展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
15048.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
15050.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
加一個搬交過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
15051.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
15054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
包括委員 這個是我們努力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
15054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
15056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
當然現在天時地利人和 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
15056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
15057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
也比較拒阻 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
15057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
15059.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
可是因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
15059.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
15061.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
建交或設處也涉及到雙方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
15061.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
15064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
我想各自政府可能也要有內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
15064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
15065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
還有很多配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
15065.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
15070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
當然因為現在的美國政府重視西半球 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
15070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
15072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
你也知道這個川普總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
15072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
15076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
剛在這個Miami開過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
15076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
15077.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
這個所謂美洲之盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
15077.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
15080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
也把一些理念相近國家召集 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
15080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
15082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
馬克魯比歐國務卿 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
15082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
15084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
更是積極在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
15084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
15087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
他們也都對台灣在當地國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
15087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
15089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
如果有設大使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
15089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
15090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
或是代表處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
15090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
15092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
都有發揮很好的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
15092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
15093.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
這也是符合美國現在的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
15093.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
15095.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
所以剛剛講所謂加一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].start |
15095.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].end |
15097.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
我們也是同步在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].start |
15097.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].end |
15101.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].text |
當然我們是希望基於兩國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].start |
15101.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
15103.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].text |
是長久的這種關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].start |
15103.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].end |
15105.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].text |
而不是一時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].start |
15105.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].end |
15109.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
然後為了增加數字上的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
15109.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
15113.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
所以確實是都有在推動當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
15113.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].end |
15116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
好 那就是有樂觀的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
15116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].end |
15119.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].text |
就是我們可以樂觀的預期說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].start |
15119.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
15122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
有機會在林部長的任期內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
15122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
15124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
增加邦交國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
15125.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
15127.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
我們會努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].start |
15127.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
15129.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
接下來我談一下玉山論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
15129.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
15131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
這幾天有邀請到許多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
15131.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
15134.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
重要的國際政治人物來訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
15134.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
15138.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
那包含波蘭前總統華勒莎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
15139.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
15141.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
他是在前天的玉山論壇表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
15141.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
15144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
他說在當前的新運局勢下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
15144.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
15147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
中華民族必須統一團結等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].start |
15147.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].end |
15150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].text |
然後由台灣引領中華民族的統一等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].start |
15150.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].end |
15152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].text |
我想請教一下部長對這個的看法是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
15152.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
15155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
為何我們邀請的這些訪賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
15155.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
15159.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].text |
他跟地區盛行的主流民意是脫節的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].start |
15160.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].end |
15162.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
而且我們不只是讓他脫節 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
15162.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
15163.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
讓他講出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
15163.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
15166.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
我們甚至還要宣傳強化這樣子的說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
15166.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
15167.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
我想請部長來簡單回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
15168.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
15170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
報告委員如果你詳細去瞭解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].start |
15170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
15173.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
華勒莎總統他的所有的談話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
15173.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
15174.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
其實他有幾點重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
15174.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].end |
15175.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
第一個他反共 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
15175.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
15178.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
他認為共產黨跟共產主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
15178.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].end |
15181.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
應該要消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
15181.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
15182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
也不可能成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
15182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
15185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
第二點就是反對武力解決衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
15185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
15186.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
包括戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
15186.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
15188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
所以要用和平的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
15188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
15192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
第三點他是認為台灣要積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
15192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
15194.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
因為我們的成功的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
15194.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
15197.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
不是說所謂的統一這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
15197.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
15199.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
翻譯是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
15199.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
15200.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
15200.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
15203.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
他講的是一個華人社會的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
15203.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
15205.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
因為他也看到我們就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].start |
15205.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
15208.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
在一些不管是各種的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
15208.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
15210.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
膚色語言上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].start |
15210.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
15212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
所以我們怎麼樣積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].start |
15212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
15214.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
有創意的去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].start |
15215 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].end |
15217 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
改變跟中國的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].start |
15217 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
15219 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
而且他相信我們會勝利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].start |
15219 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
15220 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
而他甚至講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].start |
15220 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].end |
15222 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].text |
他一生都要為這個來奮鬥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].start |
15222 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].end |
15223 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
站在台灣的這一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].start |
15223.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
15225.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
就是我就聽了也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].start |
15225.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
15228.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
他自己整套團結工聯的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].start |
15228.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].end |
15230.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
他說當時蘇聯多強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].start |
15230.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
15232.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
他都可以不用戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
15232.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
15235.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
最後能夠得到破爛的獨立跟民主化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].start |
15237.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
15241.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
現在的實力也在這個不在這個之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].start |
15241.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
15243.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
甚至更有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].start |
15243.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].end |
15245.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
我覺得這是一個比較正面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].start |
15245.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
15248.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
不是說要去統一或是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].start |
15248.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].end |
15251.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].text |
這樣的一個方式去論述的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].start |
15251.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
15252.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
如果詳細一點完整來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].start |
15252.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
15254.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
部長你剛剛講的我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].start |
15254.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
15255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
第一個他是反共的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
15255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
15257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
然後第二個你剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
15257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
15259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
這個說引領 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].start |
15259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
15260.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
用我們的軟實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
15260.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
15261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
用我們的民主的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
15261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
15263.39 |
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然後結合破爛過去的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
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這些我都理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
15264.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
15266.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
但是我必須要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
15266.39 |
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15268.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
當他說出這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
15268.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
15270.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
特別是跟民族相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
15270.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
15272.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
所謂的中華民族相關的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
15272.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
15274.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
某種程度就會被用於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
15274.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
15276.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
中共的這種敘事模式裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
15276.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
15278.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
他沒有要專注在你剛才講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
15278.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
15280.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
他要專注在他講的中華民族的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].start |
15280.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
15282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
什麼統一的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
15282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
15283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
但我必須要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
15283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
15285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
你台灣你自我認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
15285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
15287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
怎麼樣我們不會去一一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
15287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
15289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
來去干預每一個人的自我認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
15289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
15290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
但是兩千三百萬人民裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].start |
15290.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
15293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
有許多他專注在鞏固台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
15293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
15295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
也就是說台灣是我們的共同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
15295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
15297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
一個identity |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
15297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
15299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
所以我們不見得是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].start |
15299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
15301.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
照他的這個什麼中華民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
15301.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
15303.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
這種identity下面去做自己身份認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
15303.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
15305.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
那這樣子的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].start |
15305.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
15307.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
某種程度會誤導國際大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
15307.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
15309.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
那我認同剛才部長講的每一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
15309.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
15311.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
包含這個反共 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
15311.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
15313.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
他希望說是共產主義這一種等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].start |
15313.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
15315.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
來去消滅等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].start |
15315.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
15316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
這些都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].start |
15316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
15318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
但是重點要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
15318.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
15320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
我們對自己的認同就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
15320.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
15322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].text |
那你再講到中華民族的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].start |
15322.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
15324.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].text |
等於是說把我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].start |
15324.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
15327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].text |
這一二十年想要建構自己主體的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
15327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
15329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
某種程度是有點削弱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
15329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
15332.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
那當然他的這個利益是良善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
15332.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
15335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
但是他有他自己理解台灣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
15335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
15337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].text |
不過我報告委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
15337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
15339.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
他講那個中華民族是戶數喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
15341.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
15343.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
OK OK |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
15343.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
15345.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
他當然對不像我們生活在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
15345.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
15347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
那個區別很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
15347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
15349.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
而且我們自己的認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
15349.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
15351.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
不過我想他有提到一個觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
15351.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
15353.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
我覺得是自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
15353.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
15355.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
他認為自由是一切的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
15355.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
15357.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
共產主義是不可能允許自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
15357.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
15359.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
就是說台灣在這方面讓他感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
15359.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
15361.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
那這也是歐洲後來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
15361.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
15363.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
蘇聯倒了之後整個歐盟形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
15363.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
15365.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
也是一個跨國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
15365.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
15367.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
另外一種制度安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
15367.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
15369.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
因為我跟他談的比較深 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
15369.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
15371.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
他甚至講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
15371.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
15373.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
他一生沒有到過去中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
15373.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
15375.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
中國各方邀請他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
15376.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
15378.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
他的條件就是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
15378.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
15380.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
他要在天安門事件啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
15380.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
15382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
這是現場啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
15382.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
15384.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
去講出對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
15384.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
15386.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
被屠殺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
15386.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
15388.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
這些人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
15388.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
15390.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
就是要在那邊要說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
15391.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
15393.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
他們連走下去都不敢去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
15393.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
15395.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
所以他是一個滿有趣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
15395.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
15397.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
15397.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
15399.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
滿有他自己的style |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
15399.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
15401.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
所以我是覺得不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
15401.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
15403.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
有時候陷入到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
15403.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
15405.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
因為媒體抓標題有他的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
15405.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
15407.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
不過我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
15407.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
15409.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
我想他這次來其實整體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
15409.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
15411.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
15411.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
15413.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
有讓玉山論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
15413.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
15415.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
我想他的這個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
15415.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
15417.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
跟重要性發揮出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
15417.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
15419.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
好謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
15419.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
15421.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
15421.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
15423.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
自己的主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
15423.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
15425.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
我們沒有要追求跟中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
15425.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
15427.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
任何他講到的什麼中華民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
15427.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
15429.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
追求這種統一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
15429.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
15431.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
我們完全不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
15431.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
15433.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
我不做此想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
15433.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
15435.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
那我也不希望說這樣子的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
15435.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
15437.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
被過度詮釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
15437.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
15439.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
那我們重心還是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
15439.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
15441.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
我們未來在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
15441.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
15443.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
不管是玉山論壇或者是海南各國論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
15443.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
15445.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
等等的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
15445.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
15447.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
我們可能要注意一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
15447.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
15449.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
或者是拿來做他們的大外宣用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
15449.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
15451.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
我們自己要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
15451.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
15453.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
不然變成說我們好不容易辦好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
15453.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
15455.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
找這麼多這種國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
15455.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
15457.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
有影響力的政治人物來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
15457.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
15459.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
反而走向對我們比較不利的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
15459.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
15461.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
我覺得這個會比較可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
15461.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
15463.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
好那第二個部分想請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
15463.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
15465.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
這次的中東的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
15465.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
15467.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
這個衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
15467.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
15469.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
在中東衝突發生之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
15469.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
15471.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
包含美國跟以色列有沒有透過外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
15471.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
15473.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
渠道先讓我們有預先的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
15473.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
15475.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
防範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
15474.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
15476.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
我們是都密切注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
15476.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
15478.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
到底川普總統什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
15478.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
15480.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
會打 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
15480.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
15482.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
會不會打 |
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15484.97 |
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打了之後的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
15484.97 |
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15486.97 |
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當然他打是沒有告訴我們 |
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15488.97 |
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說什麼時候打 |
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15488.97 |
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15490.97 |
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不過我們的綜合研判 |
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15490.97 |
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這個是會打的 |
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所以大概對我們來講 |
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15496.97 |
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也在危機的應變裡面 |
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已經有做一些 |
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就是一些 |
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15502.97 |
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想定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
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OK所以 |
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我之所以講這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
15508.35 |
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15510.35 |
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是因為說我們希望說現在如果沒有這樣子的渠道的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
15510.35 |
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15512.35 |
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那可能 |
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15512.35 |
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15514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
不見得是在公開講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
15514.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
15516.35 |
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但是說如果未來能夠爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
15516.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
15518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
我們的盟友在做任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
15518.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
15520.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
大型的可能會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
15520.35 |
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15522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
周遭國家或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
15522.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
15524.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
全球的因為貿易影響等等的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
15524.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
15526.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
能夠有事先的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
15526.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
15528.35 |
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就是你也可以說under the table |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
15528.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
15530.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
的這種渠道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
15530.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
15532.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
讓我們能夠有所預備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
15532.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
15534.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
假設特別要撤僑或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
15534.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
15536.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
做一些相應的防範的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
15536.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
15538.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
我們會更有準備我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
15538.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
15540.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
不管他們願不願意給我們都要有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
15540.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
15542.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
要求在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
15542.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
15544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
如果真的是把我們沾成重要的盟友的話我相信這是對彼此 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
15544.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
15546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
之間都會互惠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
15546.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
15548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
如果事先得知這些訊息的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
15548.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
15550.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
甚至我們可以事先來協助美方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
15550.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
15552.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
在我們能力的範圍之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
15552.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
15554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
那我想這都對我國未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
15554.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
15556.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
不管是在貿易談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
15556.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
15558.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
軍事採購等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
15558.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
15560.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
都會有所幫助讓他們知道我們是真正的沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
15560.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
15562.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
特別是對美國這個我覺得我們可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
15562.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
15564.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
那最後總和外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
15564.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
15566.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
部長是非常重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
15566.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
15568.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
那外交部去年十月有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
15568.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
15570.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
無人機外交的小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
15570.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
15572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
那這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
15572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
15574.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
要透過也是龍幫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
15574.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
15576.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
來推動無人機學院推動友邦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
15576.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
15578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
捐贈非手栽培認證接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
15578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
15580.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
等等的那我這個是非常認可的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
15580.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
15582.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
因為我們嘉義民雄航太原區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
15582.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
15584.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
未來也是無人機培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
15584.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
15586.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
未來也是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
15586.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
15588.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
媒合的一個重點所以既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
15588.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
15590.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
有這樣子的宏願就是把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
15590.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
15592.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
外交部那人人都是外交官 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
15592.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
15594.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
部部都是外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
15594.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
15596.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
等於是說把經濟安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
15596.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
15598.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
上面領域你都要做到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
15598.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
15600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
能夠來協助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
15600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
15602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
那我就希望說接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
15602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
15604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
外交部可以更主動的跟中科院來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
15604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
15606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
合作或者是協助的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
15606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
15608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
那特別是比方說中科院他最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
15608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
15610.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
有三次來去跟對外公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
15610.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
15612.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
說明未來無人機航太原區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
15612.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
15614.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
包含一些招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
15614.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
15616.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
的期程未來廠房的這個配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
15616.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
15618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
實驗室的配置等等可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
15618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
15620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
是中文嘛所以上次我在行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
15620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
15622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
質詢的時候我特別希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
15622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
15624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
外交部來協助首先把他各國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
15624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
15626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
把他語言翻譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
15626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
15628.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
提供給歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
15628.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
15630.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
美國日本這些相關可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
15630.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
15632.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
會進駐的新創團體我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
15632.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
15634.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
這是很有幫助的有時候我們讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
15634.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
15636.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
更多人知道說民雄航太原區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
15636.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
15638.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
現在是歡迎各個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
15638.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
15640.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
的創新新創的團隊進駐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
15640.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
15642.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
無人機產業的團隊進駐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
15642.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
15644.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
那其實包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
15644.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
15646.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
Ai啦Android等等這些全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
15646.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
15648.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
都是現在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
15648.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
15650.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
等於是創新破壞性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
15650.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
15652.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
科技的新科技的這些無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
15652.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
15654.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
的公司那我們不把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
15654.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
15656.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
當成是就我們只找成熟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
15656.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
15658.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
其實有一些新創創新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
15658.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
15660.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
這些公司他甚至還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
15660.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
15662.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
成型但是如果我們可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
15662.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
15664.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
像是民雄航太原區相關這樣的資訊的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
15664.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
15666.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
等於是一個很好的呼籲區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
15666.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
15668.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
這個部分部長可不可以簡單來回應我們一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
15668.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
15670.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
報告委員確實如你所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
15670.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
15672.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
15672.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
15674.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
台灣發展無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
15674.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
15676.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
是我們國家的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
15676.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
15678.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
那在外交上面我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
15678.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
15680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
去推動成立這無人機外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
15680.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
15682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
還有包括一些國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
15682.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
15684.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
這種學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
15685.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
15687.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
也是巨龍幫企劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
15687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
15689.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
15699.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
15701.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
這個確實是現在外賓來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
15701.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
15703.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
參訪很想去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
15703.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
15705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
嘉義的一個地方所以在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
15705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
15707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
15707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
15709.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
我們已經有具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
15709.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
15711.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
規劃那也透過龍幫 |
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企劃比如說我們現在很多 |
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的人才訓練 |
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我們就可以在台灣 |
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以及在他們的國家設立一些分處 |
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甚至我們也可以跟美國 |
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合作這個都在進行 |
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一個所謂外交因為很多國家 |
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都透過我們的管束跟我們講說 |
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想跟台灣交流所以這個是 |
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包括美國當然那個考察團 |
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事實上在兩年前我也帶團到 |
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歐洲就是那個無人機商機 |
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拓展的這個聯盟 |
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也確實後來得到 |
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很好的效果包括在波蘭 |
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這個立陶宛跟這個 |
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拉脫維亞等地 |
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部長補充一點就是說 |
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因為他們的這一個要邀請 |
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各個國家的團隊進駐 |
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的時候有包含他們要 |
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跟他們解釋各種稅務上面的 |
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優惠土地政策的 |
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土地稅收等等的就是優惠 |
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跟這些國外的這些廠商 |
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希望他們來進駐嘛那我們現在 |
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除了國內我們當然也很歡迎國內 |
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但是特別是跟美國的關係如果能夠 |
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合資合建合造的話 |
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效果會更好所以 |
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我希望說不要把它當成是中科院 |
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的事情我們交部能夠主動 |
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把它當成是一個專案 |
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跟中科院來談一下看怎麼樣 |
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把這個東西再把它擴大我們現在 |
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不是只有民雄航太園區包含在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
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太保的這個亞創 |
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等等還會有在這個海邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
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的這個包含無人載具就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
15789.82 |
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15791.82 |
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水面上水面下的無人載具等等 |
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15791.82 |
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所以它是一個很宏觀的東西我是希望說 |
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部長可以主動來掌握 |
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自己當成是一個發起的 |
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一個對象不要讓它都讓中科院 |
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因為中科院還是負責研究為止 |
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因為工研院現在也積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
15803.82 |
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15805.82 |
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在推動無人機也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
15805.82 |
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15807.82 |
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未來我想在產業創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
15807.82 |
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15809.82 |
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合作上跟國際 |
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15809.82 |
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15811.82 |
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接軌其實它 |
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15811.82 |
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15813.82 |
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它是在尤其是兩用的 |
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15813.82 |
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15815.82 |
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這些無人機居民兩用 |
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15815.82 |
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15817.82 |
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方面的一個角色也是非常 |
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15817.82 |
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15819.82 |
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重要我們也會重視 |
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15819.82 |
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15821.82 |
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這樣聽起來不然你是願意就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
15821.82 |
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15823.82 |
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開始跟中科院之間 |
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15823.82 |
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開始建立一下 |
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15827.82 |
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上次廚房也有找他們院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
15827.82 |
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一起去包括漢祥包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
所有這些 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
15833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
林文委員說的其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
15833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
15835.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
您應該了解我當交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
15835.82 |
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15837.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
部長的時候那個無人機 |
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15837.82 |
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15839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
這個納入民航的專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
15839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
15841.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
然後到怎麼跟嘉義合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
15841.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
15843.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
然後今天然後 |
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15843.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
15845.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
整個發展剛好我還是在扮演 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
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15847.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
外交部的角色所以無人機外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
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會是我們這個階段的一個 |
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15849.82 |
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15851.82 |
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推動的重點也非常的成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
15851.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
15853.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
國際也想跟我們合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
15853.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
15855.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
我們這個手冊Panflip就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
15855.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
15857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
關於那個英文話第一優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
15857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
15859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
然後再來就是因為其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
15859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
15861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
有很多日本的廠商也有興趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
15861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
15863.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
日本英文還有一些主要的歐洲的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
15863.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
15865.82 |
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好謝謝我們再 |
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15865.82 |
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15867.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
我們下次請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
15868.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
15870.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
好謝謝 |
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15870.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
15872.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
接下來請葉原之委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
15891.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
15893.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
主席好我們先請林部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
15895.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
15897.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
請部長 |
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15902.44 |
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15904.44 |
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部長好現在外交部針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
15904.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
15906.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
韓國電子入境卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
15906.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
15908.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
把我們變成China跨湖台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
15908.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
15910.44 |
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提出反制嘛對不對現在是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
15910.44 |
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15912.44 |
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在那個現在反制做法 |
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15914.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
第一步是說要在 |
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15916.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
僑民的那個居留 |
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15916.44 |
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15918.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
居留證上面現在改成南韓 |
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15920.44 |
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我想先勸諦一件事情 |
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因為南韓他 |
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15922.44 |
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15924.44 |
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現在是把我們標示 |
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15926.44 |
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為China跨湖台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
15926.44 |
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15928.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
然後把對岸跨市標示 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
15928.44 |
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15930.44 |
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為China跨湖PR |
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15930.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
15932.44 |
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然後香港或澳門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
15932.44 |
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15934.44 |
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他是把後面是 |
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15934.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
15936.44 |
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跨湖是PR China |
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15936.44 |
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15938.44 |
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所以看得出來就是他其實把台灣 |
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15940.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
跟中國大陸 |
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15940.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
15942.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
香港澳門已經有所區隔了 |
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15942.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
15944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
那現在外交部的立場 |
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15944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
15946.44 |
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是希望他把 |
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15946.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
15948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
就是南韓 |
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15948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
15950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
我們現在也叫南韓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
15950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
15952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
把台灣變成The Republic of China |
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15952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
15954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
還是台灣 |
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15954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
15956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
還是The Republic of China |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
15956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
15958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
台灣還是怎麼樣因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
15958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
15960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
我們台灣裡面這個包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
15960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
15962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
我們政府也都對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
15962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
15964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
國家也好幾種稱呼啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
15964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
15966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
有時候中華民國有時候中華民國台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
15966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
15968.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
有時候台灣那你是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
15968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
15970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
那個韓國是要標示哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
15971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
15973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
是以哪個為主還是三個隨便一個都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
15974.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
15976.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
因為他現在是說你的下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
15976.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
15978.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
目的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
15978.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
15980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
跟你上一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
15980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
15982.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
這個地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
15982.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
15984.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
這個把他寫成China |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
15984.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
15986.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
人家有我們是要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
15986.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
15988.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
中國啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
15988.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
15990.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
你要說中華民國當然也很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
15990.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
15992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
所以如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
15992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
15994.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
ROC是OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
15994.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
15996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
ROC是OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
15996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
15998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
然後ROC台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
15998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
16000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
世界上認定的China |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
16000.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
16002.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
他這樣列法那當然就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
16002.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
16004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
要先確定一下嘛所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
16004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
16006.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
他可能就是少了RO |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
16006.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
16008.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
少了RO啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
16008.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
16010.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
如果他是ROC |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
16011.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
16013.11 |
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然後台灣你就OK |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
16013.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
16015.11 |
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但是他如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
16015.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
16017.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
他如果是China跨湖台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
16017.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
16019.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
因為實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
16019.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
16021.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
應該也不會搞錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
16021.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
16023.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
因為上面就是有寫台灣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].start |
16023.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
16025.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
因為我們的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
16025.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
16027.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
我們的英文名稱也有China嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
16027.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
16029.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
The Republic of China |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
16029.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
16031.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
那以後全世界都包容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
16031.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
16033.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
我是要跟你確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
16033.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
16035.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
我是要跟你確認說你是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
16035.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
16037.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
希望變成怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
16037.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
16039.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
就是ROC可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
16039.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
16041.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
ROC台灣也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
16041.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
16043.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
台灣也可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
16043.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
16045.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
最簡單台灣就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
16045.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
16047.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
但是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
16047.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
16049.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
China就直接台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
16049.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
16051.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
這樣人家會誤會誤會說是別的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
16051.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
16053.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
因為為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
16053.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
16055.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
為什麼會這樣問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
16055.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
16057.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
因為我是不知道說外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
16057.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
16059.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
到底我們政府有沒有一個跟全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
16059.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
16061.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
的國家一致性的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
16061.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
16063.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
你們以後稱呼我們就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
16063.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
16065.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
稱呼什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
16065.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
16067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
情目地地是去台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
16067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
16069.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
不是去中國的台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].start |
16069.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
16071.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
剛剛部長的講法是說三個都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
16071.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
16073.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
三個都可以中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
16073.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
16075.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
台灣都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
16075.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
16077.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
那其他國家到底知不知道這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
16077.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
16079.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
大部分國家都叫我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
16079.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
16081.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
丹麥就不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
16081.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
16083.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
這個是其實是比較正常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
16083.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
16085.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
所以你是用目的地來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
16085.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
16087.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
抗議而不是以國家名在抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
16087.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
16089.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
你是以目的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
16089.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
16091.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
是因為他把目的地搞錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
16091.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
16093.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
怕我們人家會考錯地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
16093.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
16095.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
去錯地方你是基於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
16095.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
16097.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
原因去抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
16097.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
16099.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
不是因為他把我們的國家搞錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
16100.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
16102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
因為你剛剛一直在扯目的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
16102.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
16104.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
所以部分是因為這個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
16104.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
16106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
所以這是目的地的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
16106.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
16108.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
那你就是要跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
16108.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
16110.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
全世界講到底希望稱呼我們什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
16110.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
16112.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
我覺得要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
16112.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
16114.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
那像比如說丹麥的2020 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
16114.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
16116.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
他是把國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
16116.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
16118.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
不是目的地他是國籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
16118.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
16120.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
他把台灣改成中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
16120.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
16122.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
那你有抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
16122.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
16124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
駕照或者是其他的政見都會受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
16124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
16126.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
16126.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
16128.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
我會影響丹麥是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
16128.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
16130.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
格林蘭是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
16130.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
16132.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
丹麥的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
16132.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
16134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
還是美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
16134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
16136.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
我現在只是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
16136.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
16138.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
我沒有支持你去抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
16138.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
16140.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
但是你要讓人家知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
16140.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
16142.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
什麼是不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
16142.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
16144.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
如果是目的地的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
16144.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
16146.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
那要寫清楚不然會走錯地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
16146.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
16148.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
如果國籍的話那到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
16148.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
16150.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
你要寫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
16150.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
16152.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
在我們這邊你們政府都講三種說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
16152.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
16154.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
其他國家更不會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
16154.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
16156.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
所以第一個你要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
16156.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
16158.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
我覺得我也不希望說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
16158.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
16160.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
跟南韓變成一種惡意螺旋 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
16160.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
16162.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
之前南韓的總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
16162.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
16164.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
尹喜悅在宣布戒嚴的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
16164.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
16166.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
16166.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
16168.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
執政黨民進黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
16168.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
16170.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
就po了一篇文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
16170.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
16172.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
他說南韓總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
16172.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
16174.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
尹喜悅為了守護自由憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
16174.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
16176.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
宣布戒嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
16176.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
16178.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
然後說什麼南韓國會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
16178.72 |
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16180.72 |
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北韓勢力操控 |
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16180.72 |
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16182.72 |
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就是發文負荷 |
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16182.72 |
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16184.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
負荷之後自己可能也覺得好像太 |
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16184.72 |
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16186.72 |
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把他刪掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
16186.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
16188.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
南韓很多人就對這個很不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
16188.72 |
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16190.72 |
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奇怪了我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
16190.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
16192.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
被宣布戒嚴破壞民主的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
16192.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
16194.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
你們台灣的執政黨國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
16194.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
16196.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
居然在負荷尹喜悅 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
16196.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
16198.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
16198.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
16200.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
這個事情後來也不了了之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
16200.72 |
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16202.72 |
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沒看到好像民進黨 |
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16202.72 |
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16204.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
有對這個事情做什麼處分 |
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16204.72 |
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16206.72 |
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但是當時南韓的輿論 |
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16206.72 |
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16208.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
就對這件事情非常不滿 |
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16208.72 |
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16210.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
就覺得執政黨怎麼這樣 |
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16210.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
16212.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
我們被戒嚴 |
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16212.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
16214.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
違反民主的事居然 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
16214.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
16216.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
台灣執政黨負荷很不爽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
16216.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
16218.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
那這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
16218.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
16220.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
今天這個事情當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
16220.72 |
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16222.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
他如果做一些事情我們不OK |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
16222.72 |
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16224.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
我們去抗議我覺得正常可是也不希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
16224.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
16226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
一直抵抑螺旋所以我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
16226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
16228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
南韓除了有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
16228.72 |
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16230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
比較負面的互動之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
16230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
16232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
你們也積極想要化解一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
16232.72 |
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16234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
敵意有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
16234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
16236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
報告委員我們是溝通溝通再溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
16236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
16238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
我們都是真的是希望大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
16238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
16240.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
能夠這個針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
16240.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
16242.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
這個問題來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
16242.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
16244.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
所以他們本來是因為入境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
16244.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
16246.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
這個電子卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
16246.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
16248.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
要整合紙本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
16248.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
16250.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
現在先暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
16250.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
16252.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
有這個時間我們才他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
16252.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].end |
16254.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].text |
正視我們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
16254.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
16256.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
所以我們不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
16256.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
16258.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
這樣的一個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
16258.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
16260.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
登記卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
16260.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
16262.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
或者是這個去影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
16264.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].end |
16266.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
我知道你的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
16266.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
16268.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
我沒有說OK我現在講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
16268.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
16270.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
我是說因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
16270.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].end |
16272.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
最近好像跟南韓有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
16272.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].end |
16274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
比較負面的新聞出來外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
16274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
16276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
這邊有沒有也很積極的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
16276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].end |
16278.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
跟李在民政府或什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
16278.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].end |
16280.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].text |
做一些比較正面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
16280.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
16282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
互動有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
16282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
16284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
我們邱高偉代表以前是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
16284.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
16286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
當總統他是第三局局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
16286.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
16288.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
他層次很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
16288.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].end |
16290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
跟他們交涉現在至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
16290.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
16292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
見得到人以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
16293.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
16295.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
所以在跟南韓 |
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16295.18 |
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16297.18 |
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他的外交部連科長都不見你 |
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16297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
16299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
而且很多公文的往來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
16299.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].end |
16301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
是真的是超乎我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
16301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
16303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
一般外交的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
16303.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
16305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
16305.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
16307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
那如果變好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
16307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
16309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
不是單一事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
16309.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
16311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
但是我們在這個事情上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
16311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
16313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
如果往好的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
16313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
16315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
理論上來講電子入境卡這事情就應該很好解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
16315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
16317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
為什麼會拖得那麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
16317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
16319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
拖了一兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
16319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
16321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
因為你們是去年開始就在跟韓國交涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
16321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
16323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
所以感覺上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
16323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
16325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
可能跟韓國關係也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
16325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
16327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
你講這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
16327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
16329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
有很好的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
16329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
16331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
我們在各個產業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
16331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
16333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
也是有合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
16333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
16335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
觀光旅遊文化各方面都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
16335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
16337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
剛剛前面的委員有問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
16337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
16339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
我們現在能不能增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
16339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
16341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
邦交國因為我一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
16341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
16343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
自由時報看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
16343.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
16345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
洪都拉斯的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
16345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
16347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
他很關心洪都拉斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
16347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
16349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
白蝦賣的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
16349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
16351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
一直講說洪都拉斯自從跟台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
16351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
16353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
淡交之後白蝦賣不出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
16353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
16355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
然後兩個禮拜前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
16355.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
16357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
洪都拉斯的議長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
16357.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
16359.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
希望重新與台灣恢復外交關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
16359.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
16361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
那外交部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
16361.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
16363.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
有沒有什麼回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
16363.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
16365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
對洪都拉斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
16365.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
16367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
人家都那麼正面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
16367.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
16369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
我們也做好準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
16369.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
16371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
但是他們國家政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
16371.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
16373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
什麼樣的一個決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
16373.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
16375.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
我們當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
16375.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
16377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
也都會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
16377.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
16379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
所以外交部這邊的態度是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
16379.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
16381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
反正我們就看看他怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
16381.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
16383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
白蝦賣不出去受不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
16383.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
16385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
來找我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
16385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
16387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
其實阿斯陀拉總統他很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
16387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
16389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
醫療教育跟創造就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
16389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
16391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
這三項他競選政見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].start |
16391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
16393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
他最重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
16393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
16395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
我的問題是針對建交這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
16395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
16397.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
他們都已經有國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
16397.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
16399.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
那麼多呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
16399.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
16401.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
我們有積極的去接觸還是說 |
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16401.93 |
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暗兵不動 |
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持續溝通中 |
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所以你會有什麼信心嗎 |
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就是 |
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民進黨委員在問 |
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隨到取成 |
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是洪都拉斯嗎 |
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還是其他國家 |
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說實在 |
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之前洪都拉斯的 |
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政府卡斯楚 |
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他們到底簽了些什麼東西 |
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也是要釐清 |
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這個都是他們需要一點時間 |
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有對外講 |
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然後華為在那邊的影響力也是很大 |
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所以你的意思說 |
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沒有像他們想樂觀 |
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還是有一些因素 |
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這樣就繼續努力 |
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繼續努力 |
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謝謝 |
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謝謝大家 |
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今天以登記質詢的委員 |
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除不在場外均已發言完畢 |
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報告及詢答結束 |
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本日會議有楊瓊英委員 |
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羅志強委員提出書面質詢 |
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請列入記錄並刊登公報 |
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委員書面及口頭質詢 |
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未及答覆的部分 |
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或要求補充資料者 |
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請外交部兩週內以書面答覆 |
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委員有約定期限者 |
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從其鎖定 |
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本日會議到此結束 |
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三會 |
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