iVOD / 17278

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IVOD_ID 17278
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17278
日期 2026-03-18
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-19-3
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 3
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 經濟委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2026-03-18T08:36:50+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-18T13:10:00+08:00
影片長度 04:33:10
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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會議時間 2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議(事由:邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。)
委員名稱 完整會議
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 主席 各位委員大家好
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 進行業務報告
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 整體來看
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 就是增加了一個蓄水的空間
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 大概10萬公噸
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 那等於特表面積達到將近超過2000公頃
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 撥地的防災的部分
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 我們持續精進大規模的崩塌
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 透過AI的導入
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 然後提供相關的一個滯洪的一個空間
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 去年一個非常重要的
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 就是糧食產業升級的方案
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 不只是照顧我們稻農
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 也照顧我們種植
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 那整體來看整個稻作面積
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 維持到我們預期的23到24萬公頃左右
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 那整個稻作面積減少到6000公頃
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 達到我們理想的一個平衡
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 那同時加入稻作的一個極端產區
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 那整體的糧食的這些
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 繳交供糧的農民
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 或者是轉焊座的農民
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 他平均的收益可以增加1.5萬到4.6萬之間
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 我們除了針對黑尾魚的漁撈
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 我們做了一個有效的一個管理措施
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 然後同時在太平洋鮪魚上面
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 我們也提供了去篩的獎勵
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 那同時也輔導了赤網的一個轉型
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 那在基礎建設方面
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 我們持續的針對養殖區的排水、供水
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 以及碼頭跟防波堤的一個改善
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 我們也持續進行相關的一個改善
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 期待就是
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 不管是我們的養殖漁業
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 或是我們的捕撈漁業
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 都能夠有好的一個基礎建設
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 今年度去年的統計
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 從1月到12月的統計
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 我們勤務感發生
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 高雄病原情流感的案例檔23場
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 它是近5年來最低的部分
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 然後根據最新的從去年
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 這一期的情流感防疫
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 是從去年的9月到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 那整個場數有更精進的一個結果
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 那顯示我們生完犬的防患
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 已經逐步的落實在我們的序情
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 那我們會持續精進相關的生完犬的作為
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 然後同時也協助他們去改善
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 他們的一個情色的一個設施
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 我們今年開始會
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 由乳牛的死亡保險
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 由自願性改為強制性的納保
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 能夠有效的掌握我們的牛隻的投訴
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 然後有利於我們後續的產交調節
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 那我們也更重要的是
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 我們也建立了相關的
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 台灣鮮乳的一個品牌區隔
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 專業上面其實是一個非常重要的一個對農民協助的一個支柱
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 整體的農藥的風險值大概可以降為機器人57%
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 這個目標要達成最主要的原因就是
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 一個非常重要的就是要維護我們國產的一個品牌
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 這些外來混沖的國產能夠
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 打擊相關的一個走私的一個行為
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 然後我們也同樣的提出一個
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 就是保障不變政府出6成
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 那第二個部分是老農今天的部分
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 老農今天的部分從
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 在額度上面我們從8111塊提高到1萬塊
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transcript.whisperx[452].text 農產品的外銷一直是我們關注的
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transcript.whisperx[453].text 那我們除了在檢疫的部分
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transcript.whisperx[454].text 一直跟各國在洽談這些市場進度的議題
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transcript.whisperx[455].text 那在115年的部分
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transcript.whisperx[456].text 歐盟其實已經允許了我們的蜜棗、紅龍果、荔枝的一個輸入
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transcript.whisperx[457].text 那美國已經預告了我們台灣鳳梨可以直接進到美國市場
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transcript.whisperx[458].text 它也不用像紐西蘭這樣要去頭
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transcript.whisperx[461].text 只要我們確定某一些品種
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transcript.whisperx[462].text 就是不會有東方果實營當季組的時候
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transcript.whisperx[464].text 那這個部分是一個很大的一個商機
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transcript.whisperx[465].text 那後續我想我們也會持續的
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transcript.whisperx[466].text 去針對重要的像日本的芒果的部分
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transcript.whisperx[467].text 我們也會持續的去爭取相關的一個開放
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transcript.whisperx[468].text 那整體來講完善農民福利制度
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transcript.whisperx[469].text 推動農業轉型申請確保糧食安全的自主
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transcript.whisperx[470].text 以及全面促進農村再生
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transcript.whisperx[475].text 來
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transcript.whisperx[479].text 能夠持續得到委員的一個關心
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transcript.whisperx[482].text 分部長請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[483].text 這個總議專還是沒有辦法復位
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transcript.whisperx[485].text 這樣會影響到今年多利順額度
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transcript.whisperx[486].text 沒有辦法通知額度大概多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[487].text 我所了解大概九十多億
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transcript.whisperx[488].text 九十多億的部分
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transcript.whisperx[491].text 現在我們要進行詢答
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transcript.whisperx[492].text 委員之音之前主席原例做以下的宣告
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transcript.whisperx[493].text 本會委員發言時間本會委員六分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[494].text 預要時延長兩分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[497].text 十點截止發言登記
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transcript.whisperx[499].text 謝謝主席我請一下陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[505].text 這個剛您聽了一下您的報告
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transcript.whisperx[506].text 那我想有一個最新的
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transcript.whisperx[507].text 也不是最新的
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transcript.whisperx[511].text 其實台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[512].text 貴位還算是大
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transcript.whisperx[513].text 我自己本身也去跑了一趟
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transcript.whisperx[514].text 不過根據媒體的報導
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transcript.whisperx[515].text 這次農業部帶的商家
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transcript.whisperx[516].text 撿到了十一家
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transcript.whisperx[517].text 對我們來講這應該是一個很大幅的減少
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transcript.whisperx[519].text 撿到的只有十一家
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transcript.whisperx[520].text 那你們說是因為預算的關係
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transcript.whisperx[522].text 到底這個中間的關聯性是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[523].text 第二個我想請部長您簡要的來報告一下
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transcript.whisperx[531].text 其實我們農業部的一個主展場
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transcript.whisperx[535].text 那我們希望說未來就是一個入口
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transcript.whisperx[538].text 希望能夠將人潮引到那個地方
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transcript.whisperx[543].text 對這樣的話才會更有效率
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transcript.whisperx[546].text 一個最主要我說的就是
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transcript.whisperx[551].text 在日本的時候我去拜會了
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transcript.whisperx[561].text 做一個說明然後協助大家一起來努力
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transcript.whisperx[566].text 同等性認證以外
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transcript.whisperx[573].text 好所以我想部長您的看法就是說
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transcript.whisperx[579].text 我覺得他比往年都還要
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transcript.whisperx[583].text 應該要再更加的加強
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transcript.whisperx[595].text 或者是在你們整體的施政的政策上面
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transcript.whisperx[596].text 能夠有更具體的作為
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transcript.whisperx[600].text 原來我們的預算裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[601].text 在這個任性特別條例的預算裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[621].text 那後續相關的
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transcript.whisperx[625].text 稻米算是一個吧
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transcript.whisperx[682].text 錢會在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[718].text 先確定上次會議事錄
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transcript.whisperx[719].text 請問在場委員上次會議事錄有無錯誤
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transcript.whisperx[720].text 有無錯誤沒有錯誤
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transcript.whisperx[721].text 一事錄確定
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transcript.whisperx[722].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[723].text 現在繼續進行質詢
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transcript.whisperx[724].text 第二位質詢請張家俊委員
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transcript.whisperx[725].text 謝謝主席我想請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[727].text 部長我想先請您看幾張照片
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transcript.whisperx[728].text 就在前幾天喔
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transcript.whisperx[729].text 我跟丁學忠委員一起去這個田裡面
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transcript.whisperx[730].text 你看得出來這是什麼作物嗎
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transcript.whisperx[731].text 大蒜
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transcript.whisperx[732].text 大蒜
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transcript.whisperx[733].text 那你看得出來他跟正常的大蒜有什麼不一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[734].text 夜燒枯萎
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transcript.whisperx[735].text 沒錯你是專家
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transcript.whisperx[736].text 這個夜燒枯萎代表著什麼
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transcript.whisperx[737].text 就代表著說對
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transcript.whisperx[738].text 而且代表著說他已經沒有辦法再進行光合作用
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transcript.whisperx[739].text 所以他的球體是沒有辦法繼續增大的
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transcript.whisperx[741].text 目前農業部這邊有什麼樣的措施
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transcript.whisperx[742].text 據我們試驗單位同仁的了解
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transcript.whisperx[743].text 就是他相關於跟葉滿有關的蟲害的部分
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transcript.whisperx[744].text 那我們也啟動了我們的區改良廠
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transcript.whisperx[745].text 來協助我們的農民
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transcript.whisperx[746].text 做相關的一個防治的一個作為
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transcript.whisperx[747].text 這就是一個
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transcript.whisperx[748].text 問題所在
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transcript.whisperx[749].text 因為我先請教您知道這一分地種植成本大概有多少嗎
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transcript.whisperx[751].text 沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[752].text 你們都不知道這個種植成本大概六萬
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transcript.whisperx[753].text 咳
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transcript.whisperx[754].text 六萬喔
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transcript.whisperx[757].text 我那一天去田間
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transcript.whisperx[758].text 這照片上面有看出來
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transcript.whisperx[760].text 他就在坐在產品椅
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transcript.whisperx[761].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[762].text 他就在那裡靠工喔
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transcript.whisperx[763].text 後面就要收拾了
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transcript.whisperx[764].text 現在就在這兒搬
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transcript.whisperx[766].text 要再多一筆開銷
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transcript.whisperx[767].text 現在是要噴還是不噴
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transcript.whisperx[768].text 噴下去
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transcript.whisperx[769].text 修行也不一定好
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transcript.whisperx[770].text 算噴下去還多了
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transcript.whisperx[771].text 那假設
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transcript.whisperx[772].text 部長你設身處地在他的這個情況之下
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transcript.whisperx[773].text 你覺得是要噴還是不要噴
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transcript.whisperx[776].text 農民看到這些病蟲害
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transcript.whisperx[782].text 所以呢
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transcript.whisperx[783].text 問題就在於說
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transcript.whisperx[785].text 非常可能已經一定會面臨失收
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transcript.whisperx[786].text 會賠錢了
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transcript.whisperx[787].text 現在再叫他每再噴一次農藥
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transcript.whisperx[788].text 他就是越賠越多
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transcript.whisperx[790].text 到底怎麼解決呢
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transcript.whisperx[792].text 因為要看你每個田區的個案
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transcript.whisperx[793].text 有一些已經從夜間黃到夜更了
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transcript.whisperx[794].text 那可能噴藥效果就不會那麼好
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transcript.whisperx[795].text 但是有時候是剛剛發生的時候
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transcript.whisperx[801].text 這是非常多鄉鎮現在都發生這個狀態
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transcript.whisperx[810].text 他說本來一噴三次會好
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transcript.whisperx[811].text 現在要噴五次
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transcript.whisperx[812].text 壓力真的大到喘不過氣來
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transcript.whisperx[813].text 那我想要知道說你們有沒有可能
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transcript.whisperx[818].text 難道這個極端氣候
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transcript.whisperx[819].text 然後氣候變遷
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transcript.whisperx[824].text 就可以開天然災害的話
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transcript.whisperx[834].text 請問一下這個
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transcript.whisperx[837].text 這個評判的標準在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[844].text 你要去查
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transcript.whisperx[848].text 他說洋蔥是因為天然災害
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transcript.whisperx[852].text 氣候氣候變動
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transcript.whisperx[853].text 遭受病蟲害
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transcript.whisperx[854].text 冬天的寒雨造成
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transcript.whisperx[856].text 寒雨是
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transcript.whisperx[857].text 那我們現在忽冷忽熱就不是
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transcript.whisperx[858].text 這個判斷的標準
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transcript.whisperx[860].text 沒有辦法說服大家的
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transcript.whisperx[861].text 有我們專家的判斷
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transcript.whisperx[862].text 基本上呢
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transcript.whisperx[863].text 直接的影響
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transcript.whisperx[864].text 第二次的接近
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transcript.whisperx[865].text 你就是
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transcript.whisperx[866].text 判官你知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[867].text 你就是農民的判官
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transcript.whisperx[868].text 你不能出來就判他們死刑
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transcript.whisperx[869].text 你知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[870].text 我們是根據相關的天然災害就這辦法去依法刑事
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transcript.whisperx[872].text 韓語可以
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transcript.whisperx[873].text 現在這幾個月忽冷忽熱不可以
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transcript.whisperx[874].text 你覺得這合理嗎
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transcript.whisperx[875].text 這判斷的標準在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[876].text 我在講一點
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transcript.whisperx[877].text 我在講一點
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transcript.whisperx[882].text 有賺有賠
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transcript.whisperx[883].text 後果自負
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transcript.whisperx[886].text 專家講的不就一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[887].text 但是你不要用這種方式去影射我
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transcript.whisperx[888].text 我沒有要影射你
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transcript.whisperx[889].text 你不要再激動
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transcript.whisperx[890].text 我現在是希望你幫忙
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transcript.whisperx[891].text 我希望你幫忙
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transcript.whisperx[892].text 我現在在告訴你說
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transcript.whisperx[893].text 那昨天
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transcript.whisperx[894].text 昨天你講說
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transcript.whisperx[895].text 保價收購
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transcript.whisperx[896].text 是農業退步的
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transcript.whisperx[897].text 退步的什麼
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transcript.whisperx[898].text 你講
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transcript.whisperx[899].text 我現在就問你
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transcript.whisperx[900].text 當初丁學中委員問院長的時候
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transcript.whisperx[901].text 你們次長說
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transcript.whisperx[902].text 要維持在27塊
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transcript.whisperx[903].text 27塊你維持得住嗎
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transcript.whisperx[904].text 如果你現在可以跟我承諾
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transcript.whisperx[905].text 你27塊維持得住
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transcript.whisperx[906].text 我給你按個讚
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transcript.whisperx[908].text 能不能再拉高
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transcript.whisperx[909].text 第一個我農業部不會啟動保價收購
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transcript.whisperx[911].text 對我會來協助農民去穩定他的價格
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transcript.whisperx[913].text 我也不拘泥你說你要保價收購
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transcript.whisperx[915].text 去維持這個價格
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transcript.whisperx[916].text 但我目前看到
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transcript.whisperx[917].text 是已經大家出來說23塊
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transcript.whisperx[918].text 是已經大家出來說23塊
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transcript.whisperx[919].text 那你27塊是在天空飄
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transcript.whisperx[920].text 最重要的一點
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transcript.whisperx[922].text 不是當算
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transcript.whisperx[923].text 然後我現在再跟你講
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transcript.whisperx[929].text 要減少進口
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transcript.whisperx[930].text 不要讓價格崩盤
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transcript.whisperx[931].text 這應該是最基本的道理吧
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transcript.whisperx[932].text 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[933].text 政府沒有權利去禁止進口
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transcript.whisperx[934].text 但是我們有所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[935].text 那你要稍微控管吧
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transcript.whisperx[936].text 我們有配額然後有關稅外的
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transcript.whisperx[937].text 你知道嗎從12月到現在
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transcript.whisperx[938].text 進口了超過8000噸的蒜頭
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transcript.whisperx[941].text 應該沒那麼多吧
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transcript.whisperx[942].text 這個是有數據的
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transcript.whisperx[943].text 我們這次數據8000
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transcript.whisperx[944].text 770
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transcript.whisperx[945].text 噸的蒜頭
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transcript.whisperx[946].text 中間阿根廷占了
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transcript.whisperx[947].text 8430噸
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transcript.whisperx[948].text 我在想農業部怎麼
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transcript.whisperx[949].text 討論保護蒜農的收益
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transcript.whisperx[950].text 為什麼要在產季的前夕
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transcript.whisperx[951].text 大放進
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transcript.whisperx[952].text 大放開放進口呢
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transcript.whisperx[953].text 大量開放進口
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transcript.whisperx[954].text 這是什麼意思嗎
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transcript.whisperx[955].text 我覺得委員不能這樣講喔
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transcript.whisperx[956].text 我們的大蒜有配額
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transcript.whisperx[957].text 配額外的關稅還有一個
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transcript.whisperx[958].text 保護機制
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transcript.whisperx[960].text 我不是在怪罪你
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transcript.whisperx[961].text 你可以不要自動啟動這個保護機制嗎
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transcript.whisperx[962].text 我現在提醒你的是
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transcript.whisperx[963].text 你又去預防這個狀況
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transcript.whisperx[967].text 的資料
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transcript.whisperx[968].text 你現在答應我說
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transcript.whisperx[969].text 你會努力去把
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transcript.whisperx[971].text 以上這樣可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[973].text 去穩定相關的
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transcript.whisperx[974].text 蒜農的收益
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transcript.whisperx[975].text 是多少
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transcript.whisperx[976].text 是多少
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transcript.whisperx[977].text 公告就會知道
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transcript.whisperx[981].text 你內心沒有底嗎
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transcript.whisperx[982].text 我有底
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transcript.whisperx[983].text 我也希望你可以盡快
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transcript.whisperx[984].text 因為這些人喔
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transcript.whisperx[985].text 這些農民他是晚上都在家裡靠
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transcript.whisperx[986].text 我跟委員
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transcript.whisperx[988].text 那我相信委員
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transcript.whisperx[989].text 相信我們農業部
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transcript.whisperx[990].text 一定會跟農民站在一起
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transcript.whisperx[991].text 我們會啟動一些相關的
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transcript.whisperx[992].text 一個機制來確保農民的一些收益
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transcript.whisperx[993].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[994].text 相信你好不好
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transcript.whisperx[995].text 但是你不要讓我失望耶
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transcript.whisperx[996].text 你不要過了下個月
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transcript.whisperx[998].text 然後你再告訴我其他的好不好
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transcript.whisperx[999].text 好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1000].text 謝謝張家俊委員
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transcript.whisperx[1001].text 部長第二期的官員先請回座
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transcript.whisperx[1002].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1003].text 主席好像想一下為了
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transcript.whisperx[1004].text 兼顧每位委員發言的實際公平性
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transcript.whisperx[1005].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[1006].text 避免影響我們現在為諮詢委員的權利
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transcript.whisperx[1007].text 盡量請諮詢委員能夠
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transcript.whisperx[1008].text 諮詢結束之後
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transcript.whisperx[1009].text 停止發言
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transcript.whisperx[1012].text 不停的站起來
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transcript.whisperx[1013].text 請各位盡量配合
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transcript.whisperx[1014].text 部長你先喝口水
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transcript.whisperx[1015].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[1016].text 好下一位執行請弘義祥委員
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transcript.whisperx[1017].text 好有請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[1018].text 農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[1020].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[1021].text 我想看完你的這個整個報告
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transcript.whisperx[1022].text 那我比較關心的大概都是在
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transcript.whisperx[1024].text 那在這邊的話呢
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transcript.whisperx[1025].text 今天大概幾個
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transcript.whisperx[1026].text 問題請教一下的
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transcript.whisperx[1027].text 大概就是包含了智慧農業
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transcript.whisperx[1028].text 4.0的成效
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transcript.whisperx[1032].text 其實我把你們所有的這些
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transcript.whisperx[1033].text 這個施政的報告
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transcript.whisperx[1034].text 115年的我把有關
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transcript.whisperx[1037].text 100億的預算中心
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transcript.whisperx[1043].text 都在強調說我建置了多少
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transcript.whisperx[1044].text 下載了多少
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transcript.whisperx[1046].text 也就是說我要看到的
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transcript.whisperx[1047].text 我們看到關心的是
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transcript.whisperx[1049].text 那我現在下載之後
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transcript.whisperx[1061].text 夠不夠
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transcript.whisperx[1064].text 還有以前我們在做這個
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transcript.whisperx[1067].text 完全是不足
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transcript.whisperx[1072].text 有關就是因為你沒有去
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transcript.whisperx[1073].text 做這樣的標準化
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transcript.whisperx[1077].text 這個GPS的定位極度不穩
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transcript.whisperx[1079].text 基本上有些腦容的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1082].text 你的這個
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transcript.whisperx[1083].text 攀回來的面積基本上是小於
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transcript.whisperx[1095].text 負擔所以這個地方也許
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transcript.whisperx[1133].text 的一個提升啊或者是
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transcript.whisperx[1135].text 所以你的KPI的設定不要
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transcript.whisperx[1136].text 再用那種Output的一個方式
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transcript.whisperx[1137].text 我有多少人下載我建置了多少
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transcript.whisperx[1138].text 功能我使用了多少的資料
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transcript.whisperx[1139].text 資料對我來講
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transcript.whisperx[1140].text 如果你是Garbage In
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transcript.whisperx[1141].text 那就是Garbage Out一點效益也都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1143].text 一件事情我們常常
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transcript.whisperx[1144].text 在這些的新聞報章
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transcript.whisperx[1145].text 媒體雜誌都會看到
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transcript.whisperx[1147].text 報告
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transcript.whisperx[1150].text 甚至你們今天常常喊的AI
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transcript.whisperx[1154].text 資料一定要即時
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transcript.whisperx[1155].text 那像這個的預估本來就是
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transcript.whisperx[1160].text 是不是夠
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transcript.whisperx[1161].text 再來 你的模型
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transcript.whisperx[1162].text 到底是用什麼樣子的模型
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transcript.whisperx[1171].text 就好 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[1184].text 那第三個部分剛才你特別提到了
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transcript.whisperx[1189].text 所以現在全台灣的農業的這些
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transcript.whisperx[1195].text 做飄移
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transcript.whisperx[1207].text 好 我想這個在之後的話
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transcript.whisperx[1210].text 是我過去的一個
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transcript.whisperx[1214].text 尤其是在物聯網
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transcript.whisperx[1225].text 給你們的缺失報告
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transcript.whisperx[1226].text 那之後的改善缺失
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transcript.whisperx[1228].text 寫一個完整的分析報告給我
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transcript.whisperx[1231].text 一個月可以
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transcript.whisperx[1236].text 這樣子的統合
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transcript.whisperx[1237].text 因為這個是很多人詬病的
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transcript.whisperx[1240].text 你的農業部就不會有什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1242].text 你就不會有精確的這些分析
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transcript.whisperx[1244].text 當然在我們的關稅
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transcript.whisperx[1245].text 大家談了很多ART的東西
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transcript.whisperx[1246].text 但是我還是提醒部長
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transcript.whisperx[1247].text 尤其是在這個稻米的底價
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transcript.whisperx[1250].text 雖然它都寫在比較
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transcript.whisperx[1254].text 也可以交給我們
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transcript.whisperx[1255].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[1262].text 我們會陸續將我們得到的
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transcript.whisperx[1270].text 15%根本川普都還沒宣告的
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transcript.whisperx[1273].text 好 那
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transcript.whisperx[1274].text 最後主席讓我10秒就好
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transcript.whisperx[1275].text 因為現在他要接著是做301
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transcript.whisperx[1276].text 301的調管的調查
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transcript.whisperx[1277].text 他對於我們的漁業勞工的勞權
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transcript.whisperx[1279].text 你再給我一個這樣子你們過去
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transcript.whisperx[1280].text 準備的這些 因為要做聽證會
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transcript.whisperx[1281].text 要做產業報告 所以這些東西
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transcript.whisperx[1282].text 要送交美國301聽證會
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transcript.whisperx[1283].text 的時候 你們準備的資料
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transcript.whisperx[1284].text 也送一份給我 可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1285].text 可以 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1286].text 好 謝謝洪運祥委員 請部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[1287].text 好 下一位諮詢委員請楊瓊瑩委員
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transcript.whisperx[1289].text 那個部長 農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[1293].text 看到中東的
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transcript.whisperx[1294].text 戰事升高
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transcript.whisperx[1301].text 英國商品顧問機構
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transcript.whisperx[1302].text CRU的一個指示
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transcript.whisperx[1308].text 這兩項
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transcript.whisperx[1314].text 這個六數現在大概
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transcript.whisperx[1315].text 已經上漲了大概
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transcript.whisperx[1319].text 印度減產
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transcript.whisperx[1320].text 巴基斯坦以及孟加拉
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transcript.whisperx[1321].text 那這個工廠也停工
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transcript.whisperx[1323].text 專家他都指出
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transcript.whisperx[1327].text 但是在我們
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transcript.whisperx[1328].text 國內我們自仰賴進口
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transcript.whisperx[1331].text 玉米跟大豆
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transcript.whisperx[1338].text 您也說了
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transcript.whisperx[1341].text 下半年
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transcript.whisperx[1342].text 這是你對外之前所做的說明
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transcript.whisperx[1343].text 但是昨天
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transcript.whisperx[1346].text 這個能源的這個
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transcript.whisperx[1351].text 小玉的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1357].text 看出也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1366].text 能源的部分3月沒問題
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transcript.whisperx[1367].text 4月沒問題5月
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transcript.whisperx[1369].text 的來源他已經說了喔
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transcript.whisperx[1372].text 那農民該當怎麼辦呢
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transcript.whisperx[1376].text 說明
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transcript.whisperx[1377].text 先跟委員說明喔
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transcript.whisperx[1378].text 其實我們的肥料來源喔
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transcript.whisperx[1382].text 但是你會有所影響啊
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transcript.whisperx[1404].text 就能夠
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transcript.whisperx[1405].text 那第二是原來靠中東來的部分
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transcript.whisperx[1406].text 這個台肥公司已經在啟動相關的機制
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transcript.whisperx[1407].text 那萬一能源提高的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1408].text 我相信以農業部的立場
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transcript.whisperx[1409].text 我們一定會
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transcript.whisperx[1410].text 跟台肥做協商
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transcript.whisperx[1411].text 能夠
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transcript.whisperx[1412].text 讓我們的肥料穩住
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transcript.whisperx[1413].text 肥料的價格不會讓它漲
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transcript.whisperx[1414].text 過去在COVID-19的時候我們就啟動過
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transcript.whisperx[1415].text 就是不漲價
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transcript.whisperx[1416].text 那相信如果說真正的戰爭
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transcript.whisperx[1417].text 持續到我們必須
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transcript.whisperx[1418].text 要漲價的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1419].text 政府會努力來吸收這個價差
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transcript.whisperx[1420].text 好 我們兩個答案
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transcript.whisperx[1421].text 不能讓農民沒有這個肥料
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transcript.whisperx[1422].text 萬一這個中東的還不停
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transcript.whisperx[1423].text 那我們會從
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transcript.whisperx[1424].text 其他國家來補足
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transcript.whisperx[1425].text 但是這個補足你一定要超前
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transcript.whisperx[1426].text 部署 因為全球都在
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transcript.whisperx[1427].text 輪動 這個不確定感
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transcript.whisperx[1428].text 太多了 這第一個
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transcript.whisperx[1429].text 量不能不足 第二個不能
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transcript.whisperx[1431].text 來吸收 不能讓農民
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transcript.whisperx[1432].text 這個肥料又漲價 我們這個
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transcript.whisperx[1433].text 承諾是這兩項嘛 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1435].text 請大家放心
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transcript.whisperx[1436].text 這很重要
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transcript.whisperx[1437].text 那因為 廖所本來就是
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transcript.whisperx[1439].text 這最重要
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transcript.whisperx[1440].text 好 接下來本起來要跟你討論的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1441].text 我們在96年的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1442].text 通過了農村再生條例
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transcript.whisperx[1443].text 那我們說十年內編列的
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transcript.whisperx[1444].text 這個1500億
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transcript.whisperx[1445].text 來成立農村再生基金
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transcript.whisperx[1446].text 那到110年就沒有在
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transcript.whisperx[1447].text 在預算博卜進去了
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transcript.whisperx[1448].text 可是我們看到審計單位
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transcript.whisperx[1449].text 也跟你示警了
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transcript.whisperx[1450].text 也就是說到114年底
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transcript.whisperx[1451].text 我們剩下300 去年底315億
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transcript.whisperx[1452].text 那116年底
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transcript.whisperx[1453].text 恐
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transcript.whisperx[1456].text 針對於這樣子我們農村
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transcript.whisperx[1457].text 再生條例的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[1461].text 接受非常重要的一個基金
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transcript.whisperx[1462].text 在116年就會
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transcript.whisperx[1465].text 前年的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1467].text 再生基金再增加1500億
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transcript.whisperx[1469].text 不認為
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transcript.whisperx[1470].text 這是好的方向
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transcript.whisperx[1471].text 因為由立法院這邊直接在法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[1472].text 增加預算
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transcript.whisperx[1474].text 但是我想在那個時間點
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transcript.whisperx[1475].text 我已經跟院長報告過
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transcript.whisperx[1476].text 他也知道農村再生是一個
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transcript.whisperx[1477].text 很重要的一個經費的來源
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transcript.whisperx[1478].text 那未來年度的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[1479].text 的經費如果不足的
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transcript.whisperx[1481].text 用撥補的方式就像現在農發基金
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transcript.whisperx[1483].text 農損基金已經用完了
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transcript.whisperx[1485].text 然後編列就是由公寓來
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transcript.whisperx[1487].text 在前一兩年我們很多部分
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transcript.whisperx[1488].text 藍綠的委員
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transcript.whisperx[1489].text 藍綠白的委員都提出
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transcript.whisperx[1491].text 條例的一個執行的
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transcript.whisperx[1493].text 而且我們也已經預見
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transcript.whisperx[1497].text 他仍舊自我多少
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transcript.whisperx[1498].text 我給你補多少
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transcript.whisperx[1501].text 所以您剛剛部長也說了
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transcript.whisperx[1503].text 而且現在已經推展到
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transcript.whisperx[1504].text 各個區塊都已經落實
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transcript.whisperx[1507].text 所以我還是請部長
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transcript.whisperx[1509].text 不是說你缺多少補多少
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transcript.whisperx[1512].text 本席不太贊成
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transcript.whisperx[1514].text 因為農民也不是去吃
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transcript.whisperx[1515].text 我們確定感又加上來
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transcript.whisperx[1516].text 那我們怎麼去推動
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transcript.whisperx[1517].text 你是不是去研擬
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transcript.whisperx[1519].text 我們116年要補多少進去
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transcript.whisperx[1520].text 我們是不是有一個定數
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transcript.whisperx[1521].text 這樣子是不是讓大家在執行方面
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transcript.whisperx[1522].text 可以比較安心
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transcript.whisperx[1523].text 而且不會中途中斷
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transcript.whisperx[1524].text 好 謝委員的關心
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transcript.whisperx[1525].text 我想第一個就是農村再生基金
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transcript.whisperx[1526].text 本身後續的怎麼運作
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transcript.whisperx[1527].text 要不要修改相關的條文
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transcript.whisperx[1528].text 然後是不是用定額的方式
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transcript.whisperx[1529].text 多補的方式
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transcript.whisperx[1531].text 我想我們會先研議
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transcript.whisperx[1532].text 然後跟行政院做討論以後
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transcript.whisperx[1533].text 你多久研議出來
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transcript.whisperx[1534].text 給本席說明
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transcript.whisperx[1535].text 這個至少要三個月
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transcript.whisperx[1536].text 三個月你研議
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transcript.whisperx[1537].text 然後給本席
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transcript.whisperx[1538].text 我再給你一個功課
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transcript.whisperx[1539].text 也就是我們的海草問題
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transcript.whisperx[1540].text 海草對於我們整個環境
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transcript.whisperx[1541].text 是非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[1542].text 我們看到了80年來
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transcript.whisperx[1543].text 我們已經萎縮到不到40公斤
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transcript.whisperx[1544].text 你們從幾年前
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transcript.whisperx[1545].text 也開始在澎湖4點
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transcript.whisperx[1546].text 但是4點的結果
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transcript.whisperx[1547].text 現在不到1公斤
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transcript.whisperx[1548].text 那你們認為
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transcript.whisperx[1549].text 跟你們原先預估的
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transcript.whisperx[1550].text 還是不足
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transcript.whisperx[1551].text 那你還有什麼方法
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transcript.whisperx[1552].text 因為我們看到每30分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[1553].text 我們會損失了
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transcript.whisperx[1554].text 大概一個足球場的
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transcript.whisperx[1555].text 一個海草的量體
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transcript.whisperx[1556].text 那如果持續讓它這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[1557].text 那我們該當怎麼
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transcript.whisperx[1558].text 你要怎麼樣去補足呢
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transcript.whisperx[1559].text 我簡單跟委員說明
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transcript.whisperx[1560].text 就是我們現在出國大概全台灣
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transcript.whisperx[1561].text 大概海草的負一面積可以300公斤
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transcript.whisperx[1562].text 那技術已經可行了
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transcript.whisperx[1563].text 現在是怎麼樣大量化
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transcript.whisperx[1564].text 那我是希望水市所針對
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transcript.whisperx[1565].text 類似我們水稻的腰苗的方式
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transcript.whisperx[1566].text 先去育苗以後
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transcript.whisperx[1567].text 在海底裡面去種稻
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transcript.whisperx[1568].text 類似這種概念
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transcript.whisperx[1569].text 那個效率會比較快
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transcript.whisperx[1570].text 所以在這段時間
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transcript.whisperx[1572].text 因為一批他也特別提出
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transcript.whisperx[1574].text 面積已經消失
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transcript.whisperx[1575].text 全球38%
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transcript.whisperx[1576].text 所以我們一定要好好努力去做
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transcript.whisperx[1577].text 你說你在技術之前
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transcript.whisperx[1578].text 不到1公斤
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transcript.whisperx[1579].text 你技術你預計要怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[1580].text 請你書內資料給本席
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transcript.whisperx[1581].text 我們一起好好來把它完成
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transcript.whisperx[1582].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1584].text 部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[1585].text 下一位諮詢請陳婷卑委員
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transcript.whisperx[1586].text 謝謝主席我們請部長
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transcript.whisperx[1588].text 部長我今天要跟你討論一下
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transcript.whisperx[1591].text 是我們農業部
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transcript.whisperx[1594].text 也有花卉科技展
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transcript.whisperx[1595].text 有一個不一樣的創新
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transcript.whisperx[1596].text 那我們去看完之後
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transcript.whisperx[1597].text 我想我們希望明年
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transcript.whisperx[1598].text 有更不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1599].text 我們要每年每年的
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transcript.whisperx[1600].text 有亮點
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transcript.whisperx[1601].text 對越來越進步
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transcript.whisperx[1602].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[1622].text 可是我知道這不是我們農業部的問題
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transcript.whisperx[1623].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1624].text 我們所希望的
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transcript.whisperx[1625].text 我們的國際藍展是有一定的規模
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transcript.whisperx[1626].text 絕對不能經費是往下降
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transcript.whisperx[1629].text 那個感覺不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1630].text 所以我要拜託部長說
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transcript.whisperx[1632].text 因為沒交都可以自己出
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transcript.whisperx[1633].text 都可以出來
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transcript.whisperx[1636].text 也就是我們公部門的預算
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transcript.whisperx[1637].text 我們沒有
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transcript.whisperx[1638].text 我先來為大家報告
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transcript.whisperx[1639].text 就是您剛才講的
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transcript.whisperx[1640].text 去年五千萬是因為它還在
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transcript.whisperx[1659].text 本來的預算編的好像只有三千萬還是兩千五百萬
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transcript.whisperx[1666].text 用這樣的一個方式來處理
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transcript.whisperx[1667].text 那是我們目標
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transcript.whisperx[1668].text 部長因為每年我都會去看
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transcript.whisperx[1669].text 雖然我們過去是
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transcript.whisperx[1673].text 一致性的
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transcript.whisperx[1677].text 人民的感受是不一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[1678].text 而且甚至主辦單位
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transcript.whisperx[1679].text 藍協它主辦起來也不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1680].text 說真的我們時間越來越長
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transcript.whisperx[1681].text 今年的時間是拉長的
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transcript.whisperx[1682].text 比去年是拉長的
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transcript.whisperx[1683].text 光拉長的時間
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transcript.whisperx[1684].text 所增加的開銷跟它的營運
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transcript.whisperx[1685].text 它是不一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[1686].text 而且它必須協助周邊的
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transcript.whisperx[1687].text 而且我當天
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transcript.whisperx[1688].text 其實有跟我們
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transcript.whisperx[1689].text 主任也去看過就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1690].text 有一些我們可以做得更好的地方
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transcript.whisperx[1691].text 我們在今年
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transcript.whisperx[1692].text 其實應該要有些
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transcript.whisperx[1693].text 經費預算
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transcript.whisperx[1694].text 再去增加
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transcript.whisperx[1695].text 這個是我們自己公布門的
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transcript.whisperx[1696].text 就不是在活動
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transcript.whisperx[1697].text 的一個處理
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transcript.whisperx[1698].text 就是說我們的硬體設施
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transcript.whisperx[1699].text 該怎麼加強其實
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transcript.whisperx[1700].text 很可惜的是我們的藍花
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transcript.whisperx[1701].text 佈置得很漂亮可是
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transcript.whisperx[1702].text 它會有一個漢格
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transcript.whisperx[1703].text 就卡掛的
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transcript.whisperx[1704].text 看到那個
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transcript.whisperx[1705].text 剃柱剃柱
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transcript.whisperx[1706].text 哇那個感覺又不一樣了
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transcript.whisperx[1707].text 因為部長你有去看嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1708].text 你看如果像我們那個
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transcript.whisperx[1709].text 有那個立體3D鏡面的
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transcript.whisperx[1710].text 一進去那個感覺都不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[1711].text 因為它是一個封閉的
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transcript.whisperx[1712].text 上面看不到
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transcript.whisperx[1713].text 我們的鋼鐵板
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transcript.whisperx[1714].text 那如果沒有看到鐵板的話
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transcript.whisperx[1715].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[1716].text 一致性的視覺不同
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transcript.whisperx[1717].text 那我們現在就插在這一塊
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transcript.whisperx[1718].text 所以那天我跟主任說
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transcript.whisperx[1719].text 其實我們是不是應該思考
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transcript.whisperx[1720].text 在我們這個
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transcript.whisperx[1723].text 或是把它弄成一個
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transcript.whisperx[1724].text 黑色的
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transcript.whisperx[1725].text 這是一勞永逸的
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transcript.whisperx[1726].text 因為我們未來花卉產業園區
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transcript.whisperx[1727].text 我們是要人一直不斷的進來
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transcript.whisperx[1728].text 不是放在那裡說
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transcript.whisperx[1729].text 一塊板一塊
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transcript.whisperx[1730].text 那是有夠可惜的
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transcript.whisperx[1731].text 所以這個部分再拜託部長
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transcript.whisperx[1732].text 然後我們的花卉科技展
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transcript.whisperx[1733].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1736].text 可是
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transcript.whisperx[1738].text 可以繼續
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transcript.whisperx[1743].text 農業科技展當初我們投入的經費
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transcript.whisperx[1752].text 的科技還有結合業者
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transcript.whisperx[1755].text 都有一些小展大展
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transcript.whisperx[1757].text 這個部分我們會很努力
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transcript.whisperx[1759].text 下面要跟部長討論
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transcript.whisperx[1760].text 要購電板電也要經費
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transcript.whisperx[1761].text 就我們周邊的設備
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transcript.whisperx[1764].text 建議就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1765].text 我們
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transcript.whisperx[1766].text 附近有一個非常漂亮的公園
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transcript.whisperx[1767].text 如果我們可以讓它加強
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transcript.whisperx[1768].text 包括我們的綠地
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transcript.whisperx[1771].text 現在有很多親子野餐
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transcript.whisperx[1772].text 好我們主題
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transcript.whisperx[1777].text 所以這個部分其實我們可以
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transcript.whisperx[1778].text 來做規劃
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transcript.whisperx[1779].text 噹
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transcript.whisperx[1780].text 你看到我這一張照片
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transcript.whisperx[1781].text 這是那個
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transcript.whisperx[1782].text 吹氣的灌氣
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transcript.whisperx[1783].text 你們是
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transcript.whisperx[1786].text 然後可以一直存在在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[1787].text 它是不一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[1789].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[1790].text 這個可以先優先規劃
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transcript.whisperx[1793].text 我們的綠地都做起來
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transcript.whisperx[1794].text 大家可以在這裡用野餐店
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transcript.whisperx[1798].text 空氣很好
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transcript.whisperx[1799].text 第二就是我們
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transcript.whisperx[1809].text 夠定了
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transcript.whisperx[1810].text 也就是說結合現場的
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transcript.whisperx[1812].text 還有我們花卉的亮能
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transcript.whisperx[1813].text 也就是我們花卉產業園區
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transcript.whisperx[1817].text 我們就固定
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transcript.whisperx[1818].text 各位第四個禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[1819].text 我要變成指標啦
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transcript.whisperx[1820].text 但是大家都知道
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transcript.whisperx[1821].text 我每個月的第四個禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[1822].text 我來花卉產業園區
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transcript.whisperx[1823].text 我就可以參加花卉市集
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transcript.whisperx[1824].text 一定要固定
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transcript.whisperx[1825].text 固定讓我們升
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transcript.whisperx[1826].text 行銷 先公個
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transcript.whisperx[1827].text 人家就幫我們公個
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transcript.whisperx[1828].text 這個是在行銷的策略當中
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transcript.whisperx[1829].text 非常重要的
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transcript.whisperx[1830].text 你就可以逼著
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transcript.whisperx[1831].text 台糖
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transcript.whisperx[1832].text 後面五湖那車
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transcript.whisperx[1833].text 你要建設起來
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transcript.whisperx[1834].text 你要做串聯耶
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transcript.whisperx[1835].text 我們當這個地方上來之後
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transcript.whisperx[1836].text 如果你是落後的
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transcript.whisperx[1837].text 那請問我們要怎麼做串聯
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transcript.whisperx[1838].text 我們就可以逼著他
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transcript.whisperx[1839].text 逼著
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transcript.whisperx[1840].text 台糖在他的後壁
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transcript.whisperx[1841].text 五分車車站
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transcript.whisperx[1842].text 你要建設起來
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transcript.whisperx[1843].text 因為他這邊很多倉庫
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transcript.whisperx[1844].text 可是因為沒有人
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transcript.whisperx[1845].text 如果我們這邊人少起來
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transcript.whisperx[1846].text 那邊我們就逼著他
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transcript.whisperx[1847].text 這樣串聯又有交通
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transcript.whisperx[1848].text 又有脈絡
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transcript.whisperx[1849].text 我相信
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transcript.whisperx[1850].text 光一天這兩個點
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transcript.whisperx[1851].text 他的人潮就上來
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transcript.whisperx[1852].text 所以我是提這些建議
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transcript.whisperx[1853].text 我拜託我們的主任
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transcript.whisperx[1854].text 部長交代我們的主任要下去規劃
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transcript.whisperx[1855].text 這是我們當天其實
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transcript.whisperx[1856].text 跟業者還有我們主任
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transcript.whisperx[1857].text 我覺得這樣做
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transcript.whisperx[1858].text 是能夠幫到我們的
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transcript.whisperx[1859].text 花卉產業園區
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transcript.whisperx[1860].text 部長拜託
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transcript.whisperx[1861].text 我想委員提了非常好的一個想法
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transcript.whisperx[1862].text 那我覺得一定會去支持
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transcript.whisperx[1863].text 去做一個規劃
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transcript.whisperx[1864].text 甚至於那個OK Show我都覺得
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transcript.whisperx[1865].text 把它變成背包的吊飾
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transcript.whisperx[1866].text 會更好
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transcript.whisperx[1867].text 這個後續有很多想法我們再來討論
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transcript.whisperx[1868].text 所以當你這個蘭花秀主題公園
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transcript.whisperx[1869].text 出來之後很多的
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transcript.whisperx[1870].text 所謂附加的
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transcript.whisperx[1871].text 一個鏟子就上來了
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transcript.whisperx[1872].text 好不好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1873].text 非常謝謝陳廷威委員
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transcript.whisperx[1874].text 部長先生請回座
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transcript.whisperx[1875].text 下一位質詢請宗嘉賓委員
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transcript.whisperx[1876].text 今天上午的休息時間
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transcript.whisperx[1877].text 在主席質詢完之後
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transcript.whisperx[1878].text 我們休息
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transcript.whisperx[1879].text 今天休息
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transcript.whisperx[1880].text 六分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[1881].text 好 下一位質詢請宗嘉賓委員
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transcript.whisperx[1882].text 主席在場的委員先進
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transcript.whisperx[1883].text 列席的政府將是官員會場公眾夥伴
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transcript.whisperx[1884].text 媒體記者女士先生
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transcript.whisperx[1885].text 有請我們陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[1886].text 部長好來
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transcript.whisperx[1887].text 大家都在關心有個地方的風火
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transcript.whisperx[1888].text 你會不會擔心
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transcript.whisperx[1889].text 斷氣
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transcript.whisperx[1890].text 會關心
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transcript.whisperx[1891].text 但是你會不會覺得我們天然氣會中斷
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transcript.whisperx[1892].text 我相信
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transcript.whisperx[1893].text 經濟部這邊會有一個完整的方案
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transcript.whisperx[1894].text 我們相信勤政團隊各部門
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transcript.whisperx[1895].text 會把自己的分工業務內顧好
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transcript.whisperx[1896].text 保證供應無虞
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transcript.whisperx[1897].text 那你會不會擔心現在我們看到了
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transcript.whisperx[1898].text 這個河木市海峽
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transcript.whisperx[1899].text 不只是原油液化天然氣
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transcript.whisperx[1900].text 石油氣油製品
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transcript.whisperx[1901].text 化肥剛剛也有問到化肥
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transcript.whisperx[1902].text 化肥是我們農業生產所必需
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transcript.whisperx[1903].text 化肥之後還有黃小玉
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transcript.whisperx[1904].text 乾貨
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transcript.whisperx[1905].text 當然乾貨比較不會從河木市海峽
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transcript.whisperx[1906].text 過來啦
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transcript.whisperx[1907].text 但是因為全國的航運遷移法動全身
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transcript.whisperx[1908].text 這邊擋住了這邊的船都動不了了
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transcript.whisperx[1909].text 可能整個國際航運
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transcript.whisperx[1910].text 會大亂你會不會擔心
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transcript.whisperx[1911].text 我們的化肥跟黃小玉出現問題
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transcript.whisperx[1912].text 我後面報告喔
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transcript.whisperx[1913].text 在COVID-19的時候那些航運的阻斷比現在這個更嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[1914].text 那我們已經有一些
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transcript.whisperx[1915].text 應對的經驗
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transcript.whisperx[1916].text 所以我想我們會持續關心
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transcript.whisperx[1917].text 這個議題包括肥料的來源
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transcript.whisperx[1918].text 還有黃小玉的這些產地的這些價格
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transcript.whisperx[1919].text 我想後續
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transcript.whisperx[1920].text 我想如果必要的時候我們會起動相關的配合
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transcript.whisperx[1921].text 我想應該部長經歷過COVID-19
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transcript.whisperx[1922].text 我們會做到萬全的準備
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transcript.whisperx[1923].text 那之前我在上業我在院外
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transcript.whisperx[1924].text 就請卓葵注意到
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transcript.whisperx[1925].text 在能源自主的部分我們要進行多元開發
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transcript.whisperx[1926].text 還要注意到怎麼樣節能
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transcript.whisperx[1927].text 開發之後要節能永續利用
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transcript.whisperx[1928].text 好往下看
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transcript.whisperx[1929].text 那請問能源自主跟糧食自主哪一個比較重要
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transcript.whisperx[1930].text 我覺得這兩個都一樣重要
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transcript.whisperx[1931].text 很好標準答案
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transcript.whisperx[1932].text 都很重要真的很立場
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transcript.whisperx[1933].text 糧食自主這個你也要
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transcript.whisperx[1934].text 想辦法來促成對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1935].text 那糧食自主要怎麼達成呢我們往下看
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transcript.whisperx[1936].text 現在台灣近乎美國最多的
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transcript.whisperx[1937].text 你看目前我們的國產市佔率
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transcript.whisperx[1938].text 黃小玉之外包含牛肉
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transcript.whisperx[1939].text 我們本土供應的都少於什麼
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transcript.whisperx[1940].text 九成多大部分九成多是靠進口
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transcript.whisperx[1941].text 美國也都差不多照進口的一半
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transcript.whisperx[1942].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1943].text 那之前我們在擔心關稅的時候
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transcript.whisperx[1944].text 這個部分都處理妥善了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1945].text 我想在這些議題我們都有在討論
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transcript.whisperx[1946].text 而且已經有一個比較完整的
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transcript.whisperx[1947].text 一個規劃了
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transcript.whisperx[1949].text 不是對美國而以對進口農產品
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transcript.whisperx[1950].text 這些糧食安全的立場上
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transcript.whisperx[1951].text 減少對他的依賴提高我們的糧食自主
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transcript.whisperx[1952].text 這是我講我們長期的目標
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transcript.whisperx[1953].text 長期的目標
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transcript.whisperx[1954].text 那我們怎麼去做讓我們來看一下
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transcript.whisperx[1955].text 糧食自主率人大努力
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transcript.whisperx[1956].text 包括玉米你看國產跟需求
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transcript.whisperx[1957].text 自給率只達到2.6%
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transcript.whisperx[1958].text 你覺得提高自給率
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transcript.whisperx[1959].text 自給率我們有成長的空間嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1960].text 我們去產國產玉米
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transcript.whisperx[1961].text 能夠滿足我們國內的需求嗎
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transcript.whisperx[1962].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[1963].text 我們國內沒辦法滿足
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transcript.whisperx[1964].text 黃曉玉不能滿足到百分之百
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transcript.whisperx[1965].text 但是我們的目標是大概百分之五
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transcript.whisperx[1966].text 好那我先請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[1967].text 這個我們要提高本國的
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transcript.whisperx[1968].text 玉米的生產請問
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transcript.whisperx[1969].text 目前我們的玉米是人吃的多
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transcript.whisperx[1970].text 還是動物吃的多
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transcript.whisperx[1971].text 我們現在的玉米最主要是飼料用
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transcript.whisperx[1972].text 對所以其實糧食安全
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transcript.whisperx[1973].text 我們進口這些黃曉玉大部分是做飼料
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transcript.whisperx[1974].text 那如果減少對進口飼料的依賴
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transcript.whisperx[1975].text 其實某個程度也是提高我們的糧食自主率
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transcript.whisperx[1976].text 是不是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[1977].text 你們後面不會那麼多人在那裡
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transcript.whisperx[1978].text 讓我會有點緊張
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transcript.whisperx[1979].text 我可以叫他們進來你們都可以進來
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transcript.whisperx[1980].text 你們部長對我的答詢
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transcript.whisperx[1981].text 硬硬之欲擄
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transcript.whisperx[1982].text 再往下看
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transcript.whisperx[1983].text 那請問一下部長
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transcript.whisperx[1984].text 本土農產品是要給人吃還是給動物吃的
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transcript.whisperx[1985].text 我想我們的農產品基本上
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transcript.whisperx[1986].text 大概都是給人吃的
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transcript.whisperx[1987].text 我們本土的是要給人吃的嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1988].text 所以進口的黃曉玉主要是給人
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transcript.whisperx[1989].text 再給動物吃你剛剛已經打了嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1990].text 動物我們養的這個畜禽沒有東西吃
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transcript.whisperx[1991].text 我們人就沒有東西吃嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[1992].text 因為我們是吃這些家禽家畜嘛
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transcript.whisperx[1993].text 所以進口的黃曉玉
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transcript.whisperx[1994].text 如果我們的畜牧業
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transcript.whisperx[1995].text 能夠減少對進口黃曉玉的依賴
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transcript.whisperx[1996].text 是不是有助於我們糧食安全的提升
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transcript.whisperx[1997].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[1998].text 好很好那我們來看一下
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transcript.whisperx[1999].text 所以我要提醒一點這個題目跟你探討過很多次
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transcript.whisperx[2000].text 我們進口很多食材之後加工後
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transcript.whisperx[2001].text 有一些剩餘
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transcript.whisperx[2002].text 這些加工後的剩餘其實
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transcript.whisperx[2003].text 如果進入了畜牧業
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transcript.whisperx[2004].text 我們就能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2005].text 防疫跟食安的前提之下
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transcript.whisperx[2006].text 進入我們這樣的一個永續循環
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transcript.whisperx[2007].text 你支不支持
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transcript.whisperx[2008].text 我絕對支持
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transcript.whisperx[2009].text 第二優先呢
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transcript.whisperx[2010].text 做肥料第三優先呢
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transcript.whisperx[2011].text 做燃料
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transcript.whisperx[2012].text 我覺得還有其他的目的
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transcript.whisperx[2013].text 講什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2014].text 我覺得整個自然碳匯是一個非常重要的
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transcript.whisperx[2015].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[2016].text 我們買人家的柴木柴
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transcript.whisperx[2017].text 在那邊長的樹那邊有碳匯
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transcript.whisperx[2018].text 木柴製品到我們這邊來我們有碳排
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transcript.whisperx[2019].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[2020].text 所以我們國產柴其實是為了
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transcript.whisperx[2021].text 我們國內的零相的更新永續
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transcript.whisperx[2022].text 好那請問一下
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transcript.whisperx[2023].text 目前國產柴署長
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transcript.whisperx[2024].text 你們好像在推國產柴
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transcript.whisperx[2025].text 人家說國產柴進口價格高啊
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transcript.whisperx[2026].text 台灣的木柴加工業者會用國產柴嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2027].text 貴鬆鬆啊
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transcript.whisperx[2028].text 高價的低價的都要進口的
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transcript.whisperx[2029].text 已經有改善了
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transcript.whisperx[2030].text 因為這幾年國際的運價其實也在
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transcript.whisperx[2031].text 跳高所以國產柴變得比萬
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transcript.whisperx[2032].text 有競爭力
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transcript.whisperx[2033].text 大概是哪些柴種
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transcript.whisperx[2034].text 大部分是柳杉
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transcript.whisperx[2035].text 柳杉大概的應用上
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transcript.whisperx[2036].text 是做什麼東西
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transcript.whisperx[2037].text 包含家具比如說像你剛剛講的
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transcript.whisperx[2038].text 客桌椅
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transcript.whisperx[2039].text 好來部長接下來
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transcript.whisperx[2040].text 又讓林某署長說這個怎麼問到他
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transcript.whisperx[2041].text 你們看過這隻羊
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transcript.whisperx[2042].text 這隻羊很有名耶這是綿羊
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transcript.whisperx[2043].text 部長你看過這個新聞嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2044].text 一個澳洲綿羊巴拉克離家出走五年
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transcript.whisperx[2045].text 身上長了35.4公斤的羊毛
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transcript.whisperx[2046].text 是什麼意思
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transcript.whisperx[2047].text 如果說今天羊毛沒有消費市場
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transcript.whisperx[2048].text 農民就不會幫什麼幫羊剃毛
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transcript.whisperx[2049].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[2052].text 我們的林相
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transcript.whisperx[2053].text 才會有自然的什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2054].text 能夠去剃化嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2055].text 所以如果要讓我們本國的
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transcript.whisperx[2056].text 森林國土保安的立場
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transcript.whisperx[2057].text 我們本國的樹木
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transcript.whisperx[2058].text 我們要保護但是也要有自然的
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transcript.whisperx[2059].text 掩剔之外我們如果國產
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transcript.whisperx[2060].text 柴去化後有商業的用途
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transcript.whisperx[2061].text 自然的疏乏種植
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transcript.whisperx[2062].text 就是成為循環你支持嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2063].text 這是工需的一個評論才能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2064].text 引導
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transcript.whisperx[2065].text 所以今天林保署它叫林保署
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transcript.whisperx[2066].text 它不是像以前我們學校的什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2067].text 木材有砍樹的
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transcript.whisperx[2068].text 有撤樹外的有種樹外的
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transcript.whisperx[2069].text 我們目的是整個
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transcript.whisperx[2070].text 國產國有林的
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transcript.whisperx[2071].text 一個國土保持
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transcript.whisperx[2072].text 在這個情況之下
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transcript.whisperx[2073].text 森林的林相要自然的
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transcript.whisperx[2074].text 進程代謝代謝的過程
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transcript.whisperx[2075].text 要透過疏乏
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transcript.whisperx[2076].text 商業市場才能夠促進這整個循環
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transcript.whisperx[2077].text 你支持嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2078].text 那現在問題來了
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transcript.whisperx[2079].text 現在國產柴現在要做客桌椅
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transcript.whisperx[2080].text 這是一個只有這個用途啦
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transcript.whisperx[2081].text 大概基本上我們市面上買的木家具
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transcript.whisperx[2082].text 要用國產做的不多嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2083].text 因為你說柳木嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2084].text 一般你們家裡有用過柳木的家具嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2085].text 連IKEA的都不是啊
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transcript.whisperx[2086].text 都是用進口的啊
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transcript.whisperx[2087].text 所以怎麼辦
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transcript.whisperx[2088].text 所以其實在市場的自然機制下
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transcript.whisperx[2089].text 它主要是要進整理
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transcript.whisperx[2090].text 是不是可以我在屏東就做了公益媒合
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transcript.whisperx[2091].text 跟無力化委員怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2092].text 我們說我們未來啊
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transcript.whisperx[2093].text 學校對一年級的入學新生
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transcript.whisperx[2094].text 送他一套可以用九年的客桌椅
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transcript.whisperx[2095].text 他每升一級
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transcript.whisperx[2096].text 就搬了客桌椅到新的教室
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transcript.whisperx[2097].text 國中畢業還可以帶回家
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transcript.whisperx[2098].text 部長你覺得這個有沒有可能
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transcript.whisperx[2099].text 我覺得這個非常有創意的做法
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transcript.whisperx[2100].text 很好但是這你能做嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2101].text 我很願意跟教育部
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transcript.whisperx[2102].text 來一起討論
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transcript.whisperx[2103].text 沒有錯以前你們跟教育部合作什麼
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transcript.whisperx[2104].text 斑斑吃石斑生生有先魯
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transcript.whisperx[2105].text 來再給你一個新的農夫來往下一頁
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transcript.whisperx[2106].text 就是生生使用
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transcript.whisperx[2107].text 國產的客桌椅好不好
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transcript.whisperx[2108].text 你要不要跟教育部來調整一下
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transcript.whisperx[2109].text 我一定會跟他講
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transcript.whisperx[2112].text 你再就很煩了
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transcript.whisperx[2113].text 我沒有指明
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transcript.whisperx[2114].text 如果官員要上台備許
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transcript.whisperx[2116].text 我這不曉得誰上台
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transcript.whisperx[2117].text 消費資金請鄭政前委員
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transcript.whisperx[2118].text 來
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transcript.whisperx[2121].text 國安好
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transcript.whisperx[2122].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[2124].text 農業相關問題其實很多
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transcript.whisperx[2125].text 第一個我先問一下
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transcript.whisperx[2126].text 有關於農業金庫的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2127].text 我想請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[2128].text 今年農業金庫的配息是多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[2129].text 應該沒有配息吧
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transcript.whisperx[2130].text 部長還是掌握的很好
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transcript.whisperx[2132].text 農業金庫連續兩年
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transcript.whisperx[2133].text 都大幅的虧損
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transcript.whisperx[2134].text 部長應該知道
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transcript.whisperx[2136].text 特別在去年的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2138].text 這邊有寫六十幾億到現在的十七億
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transcript.whisperx[2139].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[2142].text 基層311家農漁會信用部
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transcript.whisperx[2143].text 他們大家一起來
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transcript.whisperx[2146].text 其實他的
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transcript.whisperx[2147].text 經營的績效還有整個制度上面的一些問題
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transcript.whisperx[2148].text 經財院也都直接提出了一個糾正
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transcript.whisperx[2149].text 針對這個部分的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2150].text 農業部這邊有沒有什麼因應的方式
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transcript.whisperx[2151].text 後續要怎麼樣做調整
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transcript.whisperx[2153].text 一個部分就是他接受
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transcript.whisperx[2154].text 地區的農會轉存
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transcript.whisperx[2155].text 所以他本身
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transcript.whisperx[2156].text 接受到的都是定存
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transcript.whisperx[2157].text 所以他的那個利率的
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transcript.whisperx[2158].text 大概差0.5%
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transcript.whisperx[2159].text 比一般的銀行
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transcript.whisperx[2160].text 然後他放款的時候他放出去的
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transcript.whisperx[2161].text 這些貸款是比較少的
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transcript.whisperx[2162].text 所以相對的
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transcript.whisperx[2163].text 就會造成他的虧損
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transcript.whisperx[2164].text 當初61的虧損是買國外的
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transcript.whisperx[2165].text 這些低利率的這些
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transcript.whisperx[2166].text 不然我在想說因為制度上
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transcript.whisperx[2167].text 就是這樣子的一個安排
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transcript.whisperx[2169].text 績效能夠提升
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transcript.whisperx[2170].text 怎麼樣去提升他的LDR的比例
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transcript.whisperx[2172].text 這邊有沒有什麼具體的做法
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transcript.whisperx[2173].text 第一個部分就是農業金庫應該要
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transcript.whisperx[2175].text 所以我們這次請了
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transcript.whisperx[2176].text 原來就在銀行借服務的
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transcript.whisperx[2178].text 來擔任
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transcript.whisperx[2179].text 去年看得到他整個的一個
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transcript.whisperx[2180].text 對於這種貸放款的
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transcript.whisperx[2182].text 都比過去還精準
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transcript.whisperx[2183].text 所以可以看得到他的
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transcript.whisperx[2184].text 虧損就降低了
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transcript.whisperx[2185].text 針對這個部分我希望說我們
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transcript.whisperx[2187].text 的部分能夠有更完整
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transcript.whisperx[2190].text 部長這邊到時再請簡董事長這邊到補販公司
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transcript.whisperx[2192].text 報告好不好
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transcript.whisperx[2195].text 的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2197].text 關係的層面非常非常的大
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transcript.whisperx[2200].text 跟農業部我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2201].text 有更具體相關的
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transcript.whisperx[2206].text 從條文的第22點
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transcript.whisperx[2207].text 開始的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2210].text 我們的
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transcript.whisperx[2214].text ART當中後來開放的是多少
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transcript.whisperx[2215].text 部長可不可以知不知道
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transcript.whisperx[2216].text 這個部分都是食藥組在負責
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transcript.whisperx[2218].text 現在原來的豬生
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transcript.whisperx[2228].text 的時候我們之前有用水解
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transcript.whisperx[2229].text 來
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transcript.whisperx[2230].text 釋放就是結合態的
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transcript.whisperx[2231].text 萊克多巴胺的部分現在
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transcript.whisperx[2232].text 也都不能用這樣的方式
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transcript.whisperx[2233].text 那查驗的方式
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transcript.whisperx[2234].text 頻率的部分全部
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transcript.whisperx[2235].text 都有所限制
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transcript.whisperx[2236].text 而且我們也不能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2239].text 我為什麼會直接把這些部分
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transcript.whisperx[2240].text 直接講出來因為我知道這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2241].text 其實不是農業部在管
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transcript.whisperx[2242].text 不是農業部在管因為我們
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transcript.whisperx[2245].text 這樣要求現在也都不行
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transcript.whisperx[2246].text 然後邊境檢查的才量權
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transcript.whisperx[2247].text 從第
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transcript.whisperx[2249].text 全部都直接的放寬
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transcript.whisperx[2250].text 直接以美國的標準
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transcript.whisperx[2251].text 為標準然後
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transcript.whisperx[2252].text 對於我們之前本來有一個事先
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transcript.whisperx[2253].text 查場然後事先去
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transcript.whisperx[2254].text 驗漏這樣的一個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2255].text 現在只要是在美國NPI
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transcript.whisperx[2256].text 名錄當中說我們都不能這樣
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transcript.whisperx[2257].text 去做了然後
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transcript.whisperx[2258].text 甚至於說我們對於
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transcript.whisperx[2259].text 歐盟像雞肉
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transcript.whisperx[2261].text 其實他們其實都沒有用
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transcript.whisperx[2264].text 最惠國待遇的方式去因應
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transcript.whisperx[2266].text 的時候我知道都不是農業
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transcript.whisperx[2268].text 確實都把它給設定
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transcript.whisperx[2269].text 進來了那麼
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transcript.whisperx[2271].text 一下部長他這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2272].text 這樣子的一個開放
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transcript.whisperx[2275].text 我們有沒有具體的評估
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transcript.whisperx[2276].text 我問第二根委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2277].text 整個談判團隊是行政一體的
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transcript.whisperx[2278].text 我們在談判的過程中
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transcript.whisperx[2279].text 也了解他的衛武部這邊相關的
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transcript.whisperx[2280].text 規劃第一個部分就是
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transcript.whisperx[2281].text 您剛才特別提到的
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transcript.whisperx[2282].text 很多我們的財糧權
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transcript.whisperx[2283].text 就是被人follow到美國就是不對的
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transcript.whisperx[2284].text 資訊因為我們的所有
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transcript.whisperx[2285].text 的訂定的標準都是用科學
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transcript.whisperx[2286].text 的根據符合國際規範就是
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transcript.whisperx[2287].text 條文上面就是這樣寫的沒有
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transcript.whisperx[2290].text 之前的狀態就是覺得這邊
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transcript.whisperx[2303].text 本來不得減出現在可以減
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transcript.whisperx[2310].text 所以不能用倍數去看這個典藝值
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transcript.whisperx[2314].text 這所有的部分他是變成
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transcript.whisperx[2316].text 農業部的部分是覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2319].text 產生影響農業部有沒有具體做
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transcript.whisperx[2321].text 我跟果然說明就是
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transcript.whisperx[2327].text 豬肉我相信你一定喜歡吃
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transcript.whisperx[2328].text 台灣豬肉因為台灣豬肉有台灣豬肉
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transcript.whisperx[2329].text 的特色那我們第二個
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transcript.whisperx[2331].text 大概是88平均88到90
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transcript.whisperx[2332].text 去年比較低是因為有
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transcript.whisperx[2333].text 飛動豬瘟的關係變成83
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transcript.whisperx[2334].text 所以後續我們會啟動
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transcript.whisperx[2335].text 一個完整的國產
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transcript.whisperx[2339].text 目前只佔一顆
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transcript.whisperx[2340].text 針對這個部分你們有沒有給
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transcript.whisperx[2345].text 只佔我們全國的消費量
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transcript.whisperx[2346].text 的不到1%
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transcript.whisperx[2349].text 所以他不會去
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transcript.whisperx[2350].text 撼動到我們國產豬肉
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transcript.whisperx[2351].text 的一個行銷因為美國豬肉進來
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transcript.whisperx[2352].text 還要跟加拿大
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transcript.whisperx[2353].text 去競爭加拿大40%
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transcript.whisperx[2356].text 所以我們希望說
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transcript.whisperx[2357].text ARP這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2358].text 不會對台灣豬農產生太大的影響
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transcript.whisperx[2359].text 所以農業部必須要有更積極的
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transcript.whisperx[2360].text 一個作為另外一個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2361].text 就是針對漁電共生2.0版
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transcript.whisperx[2363].text 還沒有完全的落實下來
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transcript.whisperx[2364].text 我想請問一下部長
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transcript.whisperx[2365].text 針對漁電脫鉤
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transcript.whisperx[2366].text 這件事情的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2368].text 是怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2369].text 我想我們新的
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transcript.whisperx[2371].text 並沒有對外我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[2372].text 是在內部研議
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transcript.whisperx[2374].text 那我所提出來的
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transcript.whisperx[2375].text 我覺得一個非常重要的就是
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transcript.whisperx[2376].text 漁電共生政策不會改變
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transcript.whisperx[2377].text 所以沒有所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[2379].text 第二個我們所提出來的
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transcript.whisperx[2380].text 漁歸漁電歸電是讓它
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transcript.whisperx[2381].text 回歸到專業
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transcript.whisperx[2383].text 政策之下
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transcript.whisperx[2387].text 主席再給我30秒鐘我把這部分講完
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transcript.whisperx[2391].text 光電這個目標是20GW
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transcript.whisperx[2413].text 也做很好的溝通
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transcript.whisperx[2417].text 接下來有請
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transcript.whisperx[2421].text 主持比我更有效率
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transcript.whisperx[2424].text 委員好 幾個問題請教
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transcript.whisperx[2425].text 從你的報告裡面說
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transcript.whisperx[2426].text 今年2月21號正在向世界動物衛生組織
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transcript.whisperx[2429].text 文件已經都申請了
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transcript.whisperx[2449].text 越快越好
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transcript.whisperx[2478].text 目前的進度怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2480].text 工廠去參觀了
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transcript.whisperx[2482].text 一個部分是直接變成
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transcript.whisperx[2489].text 那本來我想問他們
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transcript.whisperx[2490].text 是哪兩三家啦
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transcript.whisperx[2491].text 他因為是商業機密
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transcript.whisperx[2492].text 他不願意透露這個
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transcript.whisperx[2493].text 表示說我們台灣的業者其實已經跟他
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transcript.whisperx[2494].text 有一些接觸 然後同時我們在
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transcript.whisperx[2495].text 行政院就是也經過
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transcript.whisperx[2496].text 討論 未來這樣子一個
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transcript.whisperx[2497].text EcoFeed的循環在利用
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transcript.whisperx[2498].text 飼料廠的一個興建
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transcript.whisperx[2499].text 投資的時候 政府會做
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transcript.whisperx[2500].text 適當的補助跟協助
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transcript.whisperx[2501].text 把日本那一套我們可以學習
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transcript.whisperx[2502].text 把它引用到台灣來
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transcript.whisperx[2503].text 相關的技術我們可以取得受取
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transcript.whisperx[2504].text 那政府也要投入資源
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transcript.whisperx[2505].text 對 我們會投入 我們會來協助
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transcript.whisperx[2506].text 要協助廠商
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transcript.whisperx[2507].text 所有的廚餘最後就是變成
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transcript.whisperx[2508].text 也可以變成燃料
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transcript.whisperx[2509].text 也可以變成飼料
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transcript.whisperx[2510].text 所以完全不會進入養豬的系統
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transcript.whisperx[2511].text 然後搭配
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transcript.whisperx[2512].text 家戶的這個廚餘處理機
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transcript.whisperx[2513].text 我也隨便提案說
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transcript.whisperx[2514].text 是不是 他們幾乎每一家
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transcript.whisperx[2515].text 都有廚餘處理機
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transcript.whisperx[2516].text 所以把那個水跟油
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transcript.whisperx[2517].text 全部大部分都縮小
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transcript.whisperx[2518].text 所以他們就很大程度
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transcript.whisperx[2519].text 很大的比例可以變成
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transcript.whisperx[2520].text 這個什麼飼料
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transcript.whisperx[2521].text 而且飼料的成本也降低
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transcript.whisperx[2522].text 對不對 是 所以這部分我希望說
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transcript.whisperx[2523].text 這個速度能夠快一點
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transcript.whisperx[2524].text 把日本那一套技術把它學習
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transcript.whisperx[2525].text 我想我的目標
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transcript.whisperx[2526].text 是第一個能夠
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transcript.whisperx[2527].text 在台灣生產那個依靠費的
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transcript.whisperx[2528].text 大概七八月看看可不可以
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transcript.whisperx[2529].text 有新的一些
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transcript.whisperx[2530].text 飼料供應
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transcript.whisperx[2531].text 所以我想我們會針對現在
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transcript.whisperx[2532].text 目前的全順 就是苗栗的
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transcript.whisperx[2533].text 共同政治中心做轉型
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transcript.whisperx[2534].text 那有一部分現在在申請
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transcript.whisperx[2535].text 原來申請共同政治中心的
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transcript.whisperx[2536].text 九個案子 我們再跟他
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transcript.whisperx[2537].text 洽談有沒有意願轉成
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transcript.whisperx[2538].text 如果有必要
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transcript.whisperx[2539].text 我可以邀請這個部長
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transcript.whisperx[2540].text 相關同仁一起去日本
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transcript.whisperx[2541].text 再去看一下
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transcript.whisperx[2542].text 因為我跟東運水長只是一些
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transcript.whisperx[2543].text 聽他們專家寫者他們的意見
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transcript.whisperx[2544].text 或者一些分析 沒有去時尚看
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transcript.whisperx[2545].text 我很樂意再帶
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transcript.whisperx[2546].text 邀請委員去那邊現場看
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transcript.whisperx[2547].text 現場看你 你會覺得
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transcript.whisperx[2548].text 可以排類似的考察
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transcript.whisperx[2549].text 下一個問題就是石斑魚產業
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transcript.whisperx[2550].text 石斑魚目前的價格怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2551].text 那個 署長
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transcript.whisperx[2552].text 石斑魚 我是不是可以請那個
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transcript.whisperx[2553].text 好 署長
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transcript.whisperx[2554].text 跟委員報告 我們石斑魚
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transcript.whisperx[2555].text 現在一年產量大概
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transcript.whisperx[2556].text 一萬七到一萬八千公噸
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transcript.whisperx[2557].text 那主要署長
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transcript.whisperx[2558].text 主要市場還是仰賴
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transcript.whisperx[2559].text 活魚的輸出到香港
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transcript.whisperx[2560].text 跟大陸
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transcript.whisperx[2561].text 所以你市場過度集中在中國
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transcript.whisperx[2562].text 跟香港嗎 是 是
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transcript.whisperx[2563].text 有華人的包括印尼
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transcript.whisperx[2564].text 馬來西亞新加坡 這個都是我們潛在市場
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transcript.whisperx[2565].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2566].text 這絕對是 所以我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[2567].text 從去年開始就在開發
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transcript.whisperx[2568].text 這種多元市場
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transcript.whisperx[2569].text 像美加現在的華人超市裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2570].text 其實對我們石斑魚
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transcript.whisperx[2571].text 的切片的產品
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transcript.whisperx[2572].text 他們也有高度的興趣
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transcript.whisperx[2573].text 所以我們目前政策上就是希望
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transcript.whisperx[2574].text 我們石斑魚未來
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transcript.whisperx[2575].text 也可以做這種計畫性的生產
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transcript.whisperx[2576].text 然後養比較大規格的
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transcript.whisperx[2577].text 那取肉率比較高
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transcript.whisperx[2578].text 這是你現在在處理的方式嘛 是
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transcript.whisperx[2579].text 那以現在來看你處理的方式並沒有達標嘛
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transcript.whisperx[2580].text 比如說我們石斑魚
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transcript.whisperx[2581].text 石斑魚活魚出口的量
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transcript.whisperx[2583].text 價格跌了將近16%
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transcript.whisperx[2584].text 跟委員報告是
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transcript.whisperx[2585].text 但是在今年在1、2月
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transcript.whisperx[2586].text 今年初1、2月其實他
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transcript.whisperx[2587].text 已經有回穩回來的啦
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transcript.whisperx[2588].text 但是過度集中在
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transcript.whisperx[2589].text 這個大陸跟香港
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transcript.whisperx[2590].text 其實是要調整的
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transcript.whisperx[2591].text 要求漁業署要趕快把這個市場分散化
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transcript.whisperx[2592].text 是 是 是
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transcript.whisperx[2593].text 要拿出具體的這個做法
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transcript.whisperx[2594].text 建立一個指標
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transcript.whisperx[2595].text 一個目標值 是 是
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transcript.whisperx[2596].text 所以每次問你們都還是一樣集中在香港跟中國
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transcript.whisperx[2597].text 這個部分你們也想怎麼做呢
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transcript.whisperx[2598].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2599].text 我在今年跟去年
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transcript.whisperx[2600].text 基本上我在日本市場的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2601].text 我們已經啟動了一個類似計畫性生產
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transcript.whisperx[2602].text 因為在日本裡面有很多餐廳
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transcript.whisperx[2603].text 其實我們是進到餐廳的系統
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transcript.whisperx[2604].text 那餐廳的系統
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transcript.whisperx[2605].text 它需要一定規格的也不能太大
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transcript.whisperx[2606].text 所以我們現在跟業者
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transcript.whisperx[2607].text 在做這樣的一個看看有沒有媒合
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transcript.whisperx[2608].text 變成一個類似計畫性生產
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transcript.whisperx[2609].text 然後去供應日本市場的這個餐廳系統
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transcript.whisperx[2610].text 類似這樣的方式才有機會去拉出去
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transcript.whisperx[2611].text 好 了解
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transcript.whisperx[2612].text 接著請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[2613].text 落龍產業
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transcript.whisperx[2614].text 簽訂之後對落龍產業
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transcript.whisperx[2615].text 一定會造成衝擊
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transcript.whisperx[2616].text 那怎麼樣去協助
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transcript.whisperx[2617].text 落龍產業能夠扶植
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transcript.whisperx[2618].text 能夠振興
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transcript.whisperx[2619].text 農業部有沒有相關的政策
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transcript.whisperx[2620].text 我先跟委員說明
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transcript.whisperx[2621].text 就是台紐去年零關稅
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transcript.whisperx[2622].text 最後結果去年整個牛奶的進口
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transcript.whisperx[2623].text 只增加了六百多噸
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transcript.whisperx[2624].text 表示說我們過去
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transcript.whisperx[2625].text 還是喜歡用國產鮮乳
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transcript.whisperx[2627].text 所以我們在總量管制牛級管理的前提之下
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transcript.whisperx[2628].text 我們會加強國產乳的行銷
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transcript.whisperx[2629].text 相對價格沒有優勢
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transcript.whisperx[2630].text 對 但是價值是有優勢的
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transcript.whisperx[2631].text 就是它的品質
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transcript.whisperx[2632].text 但是如果景氣不好
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transcript.whisperx[2633].text 大家就啊 一個乳品相對找一個
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transcript.whisperx[2634].text 一個 替代性的
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transcript.whisperx[2635].text 或者是它的成本價格比較低的
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transcript.whisperx[2636].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[2637].text 就是現在很多
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transcript.whisperx[2638].text 就是手搖飲店
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transcript.whisperx[2639].text 就是這些東西 我們有大量的牛奶
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transcript.whisperx[2640].text 都用鮮奶的 以前都是用冰鑽奶
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transcript.whisperx[2641].text 所以這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[2642].text 我們跟很多協會一起合作
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transcript.whisperx[2643].text 在推國產乳進到不同的市場
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transcript.whisperx[2644].text 你應該響應
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transcript.whisperx[2645].text 政府應該帶有響應
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transcript.whisperx[2646].text 要鼓勵國人
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transcript.whisperx[2647].text 多飲用國產鮮乳
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transcript.whisperx[2648].text 所以我現在準備在高鐵跟台鐵的車站裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2649].text 買一些看板
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transcript.whisperx[2650].text 變成台灣鮮乳唯一選擇
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transcript.whisperx[2651].text 用這樣的一個概念
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transcript.whisperx[2652].text 下次如果您再來立法院
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transcript.whisperx[2653].text 我要買幾瓶鮮乳
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transcript.whisperx[2654].text 我們一起來
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transcript.whisperx[2655].text 推廣國產鮮乳
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transcript.whisperx[2656].text 好 那因為實驗關係
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transcript.whisperx[2657].text 這個趙委應該
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transcript.whisperx[2658].text 要帶頭做示範
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transcript.whisperx[2659].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2660].text 有相關的問題再跟您請教
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transcript.whisperx[2661].text 好 謝謝趙委的示範
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transcript.whisperx[2662].text 謝謝部長 我們休息六分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[2663].text 沒有任何問題 我說六分鐘就六分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[2664].text 請變形官員先入座
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transcript.whisperx[2665].text 請農業部的備詢官員進行速度做
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transcript.whisperx[2666].text 好 我們再繼續質詢
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transcript.whisperx[2667].text 下一位資源請政廳財委員
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transcript.whisperx[2668].text 主席有請部長
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transcript.whisperx[2670].text 部長好 辛苦了
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transcript.whisperx[2671].text 首先這個針對
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transcript.whisperx[2672].text 這個馬太安西淹澀府
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transcript.whisperx[2673].text 這個要謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[2676].text 當然我一直在
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transcript.whisperx[2677].text 這個要求農業部要積極
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transcript.whisperx[2678].text 林業署要積極的去
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transcript.whisperx[2679].text 這個把體的處理
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transcript.whisperx[2680].text 所以我們從12月28號
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transcript.whisperx[2681].text 去年12月28號的
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transcript.whisperx[2684].text 這個淹澀府的把體
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transcript.whisperx[2685].text 都已經開挖挖掘了
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transcript.whisperx[2686].text 然後現在這個水
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transcript.whisperx[2687].text 只有目前不到1公尺
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transcript.whisperx[2688].text 在裡面的資料是這樣寫
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transcript.whisperx[2689].text 請問一下這個水會
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transcript.whisperx[2690].text 只要有下雨
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transcript.whisperx[2693].text 現在降花了以後大概
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transcript.whisperx[2694].text 現在去的量是2.6萬公頃
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transcript.whisperx[2699].text 2.4億的地方的土塊
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transcript.whisperx[2702].text 下來的時候
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transcript.whisperx[2707].text 後戲你們後戲要繼續的
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transcript.whisperx[2708].text 不能在書店
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transcript.whisperx[2710].text 包括無人機的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2715].text 復原重建
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transcript.whisperx[2725].text 用書面報告把
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transcript.whisperx[2726].text 已經的一個成果能夠提出來
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transcript.whisperx[2727].text 書面報告
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transcript.whisperx[2728].text 好接下來
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transcript.whisperx[2729].text 這裡面當然
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transcript.whisperx[2731].text 相關的這些
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transcript.whisperx[2735].text 保險細保
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transcript.whisperx[2736].text 這個都一樣
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transcript.whisperx[2737].text 為了時間關係就把比較詳細的
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transcript.whisperx[2738].text 一個目前完成的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2739].text 能夠提供
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transcript.whisperx[2741].text 我會提供書面資料給委員
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transcript.whisperx[2743].text 川普關稅
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transcript.whisperx[2744].text 大家都很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[2746].text 特別條例也有特別預算
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transcript.whisperx[2747].text 但是這個
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transcript.whisperx[2748].text 美國最高法院裁定違法
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transcript.whisperx[2749].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[2750].text 接著
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transcript.whisperx[2751].text 美國又祭出
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transcript.whisperx[2752].text 301條款
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transcript.whisperx[2753].text 台灣成為這個是媒體的報導
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transcript.whisperx[2754].text 台灣成為最大的受難者
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transcript.whisperx[2755].text 在這樣的一個前提之下
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transcript.whisperx[2759].text 這個詳細的檢視
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transcript.whisperx[2760].text 從原來的
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transcript.whisperx[2761].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[2763].text 到後來的最高法院的裁定違法
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transcript.whisperx[2764].text 到現在又祭出這個301條款
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transcript.whisperx[2765].text 我們再次請農業部
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transcript.whisperx[2767].text 影響的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2770].text 就是整個ART本身的簽約
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transcript.whisperx[2772].text 一個是內容的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2773].text 內容的部分我們認為我們所簽訂的
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transcript.whisperx[2778].text 然後對於進口的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2780].text 豁免的這個項目
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transcript.whisperx[2781].text 我們確保我們糧食安全
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transcript.whisperx[2782].text 第二個部分是法律面的問題
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transcript.whisperx[2783].text 就是說整個ART本身
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transcript.whisperx[2785].text IPA的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2786].text 在美國判定是私效的部分
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transcript.whisperx[2788].text 看看你們這樣處理
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transcript.whisperx[2789].text 但他現在是用122的
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transcript.whisperx[2790].text 暫時的這些條例
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transcript.whisperx[2791].text 現在暫時的10加MFN的
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transcript.whisperx[2792].text 這樣子的一個機制
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transcript.whisperx[2795].text 20加MFN
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transcript.whisperx[2799].text 一直在變動中
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transcript.whisperx[2803].text 然後也隨時會做新的一個
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transcript.whisperx[2805].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2806].text 這個在你的報告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[2807].text 也有提到要成立300億元的
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transcript.whisperx[2817].text 那未來如果台美關稅
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transcript.whisperx[2821].text 所剩餘的這些
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transcript.whisperx[2822].text 的經費去做調整
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transcript.whisperx[2825].text 基本上
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transcript.whisperx[2827].text 案例或是法例
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transcript.whisperx[2828].text 都會透過一個
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transcript.whisperx[2839].text 原來是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[2840].text 那我了解
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transcript.whisperx[2841].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2842].text 接下來
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transcript.whisperx[2843].text 最後一個議題了
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transcript.whisperx[2846].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[2847].text 林保署
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transcript.whisperx[2848].text 林業署
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transcript.whisperx[2850].text 兩個署
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transcript.whisperx[2851].text 署長不在嗎
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transcript.whisperx[2852].text 署長開會期間
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transcript.whisperx[2853].text 林保署
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transcript.whisperx[2854].text 開會期間不能隨便離席
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transcript.whisperx[2855].text 現在有委員質詢說你不在這樣不好
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transcript.whisperx[2856].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2857].text 這個野生動物保育法
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transcript.whisperx[2858].text 這個法律已經很久了
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transcript.whisperx[2859].text 這個第二十一條之一
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transcript.whisperx[2860].text 寫得很清楚原住民族
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transcript.whisperx[2861].text 基於其傳統文化
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transcript.whisperx[2862].text 既以後非營利自用
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transcript.whisperx[2865].text 這幾條野保法的
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transcript.whisperx[2866].text 規定的限制
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transcript.whisperx[2867].text 我們從第一計畫到最後一計畫
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transcript.whisperx[2869].text 都沒有提到
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transcript.whisperx[2870].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[2871].text 接下來
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transcript.whisperx[2872].text 這個五十一條之一
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transcript.whisperx[2873].text 好 也是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[2874].text 也沒有提到
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transcript.whisperx[2875].text 他只有談原住民族
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transcript.whisperx[2876].text 原住民族
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transcript.whisperx[2877].text 而且還提到
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transcript.whisperx[2878].text 但所示違反者不法
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transcript.whisperx[2879].text 多一期原住民的門口
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transcript.whisperx[2880].text 以佔全體原住民人口
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transcript.whisperx[2881].text 達到52.63%
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transcript.whisperx[2882].text 這個是有社戶籍的
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transcript.whisperx[2883].text 如果加上沒有社戶籍
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transcript.whisperx[2885].text 就寫就業的
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transcript.whisperx[2886].text 絕對是達到70%以上
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transcript.whisperx[2887].text 70%以上
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transcript.whisperx[2888].text 好 我們看這個原住民族基本法
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transcript.whisperx[2889].text 第23條 也規定
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transcript.whisperx[2890].text 政府應尊重原住民族
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transcript.whisperx[2891].text 選擇生活方式
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transcript.whisperx[2892].text 也就是他會遷移
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transcript.whisperx[2893].text 他會工作或是就業
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transcript.whisperx[2894].text 就寫都會遷移
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transcript.whisperx[2895].text 我們看海洋基本法
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transcript.whisperx[2896].text 第3條
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transcript.whisperx[2899].text 好 怎麼樣怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2900].text 然後要保障 維護
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transcript.whisperx[2901].text 各族群之海洋遷移
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transcript.whisperx[2902].text 各族群之海洋遷移
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transcript.whisperx[2903].text 然後第4條規定
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transcript.whisperx[2904].text 保障傳承原住民族傳統
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transcript.whisperx[2905].text 用海文化及遷移
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transcript.whisperx[2906].text 16條
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transcript.whisperx[2907].text 規定
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transcript.whisperx[2908].text 108年11月20號公佈施行之後
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transcript.whisperx[2909].text 兩年內
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transcript.whisperx[2910].text 要修相關法律
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transcript.whisperx[2911].text 沒有修的話
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transcript.whisperx[2912].text 第二項規定要解釋
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transcript.whisperx[2913].text 好 可以透過解釋
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transcript.whisperx[2914].text 所以
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transcript.whisperx[2915].text 因為主席已經站起來了
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transcript.whisperx[2916].text 最後一句話
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transcript.whisperx[2917].text 請參考
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transcript.whisperx[2918].text 請比照
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transcript.whisperx[2919].text 106年6月23號
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transcript.whisperx[2920].text 有關一頁法第44條第一項的解釋令
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transcript.whisperx[2921].text 依海洋基本法
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transcript.whisperx[2922].text 依海洋基本法
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transcript.whisperx[2923].text 跟一頁法
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transcript.whisperx[2924].text 然後做解釋
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transcript.whisperx[2925].text 包含
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transcript.whisperx[2926].text 完全一樣
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transcript.whisperx[2928].text 也就是包含了都會區
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transcript.whisperx[2929].text 你要加都會區這幾個字
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transcript.whisperx[2930].text 更好
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transcript.whisperx[2931].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[2932].text 第一個我想我們已經針對這個法例
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transcript.whisperx[2934].text 那您所提到這個
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transcript.whisperx[2935].text 現在因為
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transcript.whisperx[2936].text 這個海洋基本法108年
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transcript.whisperx[2937].text 新公佈
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transcript.whisperx[2943].text 所以這個部分我想我們會
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transcript.whisperx[2944].text 慎重的考慮
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transcript.whisperx[2946].text 政院委員你最後一句話講了20句話
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transcript.whisperx[2947].text 部長先會坐
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transcript.whisperx[2948].text 這個
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transcript.whisperx[2951].text 好 現在請謝議分委員
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transcript.whisperx[2954].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[2994].text 台灣
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transcript.whisperx[2995].text 我們肥料會不會有問題
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transcript.whisperx[3003].text 包括庫存還有在海上的這些
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transcript.whisperx[3007].text 假肥的部分可以供應到十月
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transcript.whisperx[3027].text 可以讓我們更有韌性
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transcript.whisperx[3030].text 提高的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3037].text 我想這個部分的價差
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transcript.whisperx[3038].text 我們一定會向行政院來承包
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transcript.whisperx[3039].text 希望由政府來吸收這個價差
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transcript.whisperx[3040].text 要吸收嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3041].text 我想我們一定會去爭取
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transcript.whisperx[3042].text 對我們會來爭取
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transcript.whisperx[3043].text 因為那個義安的價格
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transcript.whisperx[3044].text 它是國際的價格嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3045].text 那即便是我們
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transcript.whisperx[3046].text 不只是義安
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transcript.whisperx[3047].text 我覺得比較擔心的是運費
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transcript.whisperx[3048].text 因為能源短缺
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transcript.whisperx[3049].text 運費變貴的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3050].text 造成成本上漲的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3051].text 那如果導致後續導致
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transcript.whisperx[3052].text 肥料可能會提高的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3053].text 都會
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transcript.whisperx[3054].text 我想我們會關注
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transcript.whisperx[3055].text 然後如果需要政府來協助
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transcript.whisperx[3056].text 我們一定義不容辭
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transcript.whisperx[3057].text 好那這個部分要麻煩注意
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transcript.whisperx[3058].text 就是要控制我們肥料的價格
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transcript.whisperx[3059].text 因為不然的話農民還是非常擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3060].text 對我想我們一定會
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transcript.whisperx[3061].text 盡努力去做
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transcript.whisperx[3062].text 所以半年內是沒有問題的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3063].text 是不是
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transcript.whisperx[3064].text 那是半年之後
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transcript.whisperx[3065].text 還要在後續再做觀察
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transcript.whisperx[3066].text 我們每個禮拜都會去盤點
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transcript.whisperx[3067].text 好那就ART的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3068].text 我想請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[3069].text 因為去年我們就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3070].text 就是對於2025的這個
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transcript.whisperx[3071].text 花生的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3072].text 就是去年已經都
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transcript.whisperx[3073].text 就是關於進口配額內的
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transcript.whisperx[3074].text 都已經就是開標了
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transcript.whisperx[3075].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3076].text 對已經開標了
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transcript.whisperx[3077].text 今年的部分都已經開標了
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transcript.whisperx[3078].text 對那問題是
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transcript.whisperx[3079].text 因為如果未來就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3080].text 就是零關稅
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transcript.whisperx[3081].text 可是目前國內的花生的產量
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transcript.whisperx[3082].text 以及就是說因應這個進口的
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transcript.whisperx[3083].text 這個都已經很多了
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transcript.whisperx[3084].text 我看到的是
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transcript.whisperx[3085].text 大概有12,290噸
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transcript.whisperx[3086].text 那還有就是農民他們也
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transcript.whisperx[3087].text 就是配合美國關稅
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transcript.whisperx[3088].text 去年美國關稅
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transcript.whisperx[3089].text 那就是我們也
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transcript.whisperx[3090].text 按照那個美國關稅的
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transcript.whisperx[3091].text 也跟農民收購
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transcript.whisperx[3092].text 所以導致今年的這個收購
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transcript.whisperx[3093].text 都已經都非常多
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transcript.whisperx[3095].text 還會不會再進口花生
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transcript.whisperx[3096].text 不過我第一個跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[3097].text 過往的花生都是從印度進來比較多
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transcript.whisperx[3098].text 大概6000多噸
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transcript.whisperx[3099].text 然後還有巴西阿根廷巴西
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transcript.whisperx[3100].text 占了將近90%
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transcript.whisperx[3101].text 那美國的只進口調製的花生
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transcript.whisperx[3102].text 只有75噸
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transcript.whisperx[3103].text 但是不可諱言
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transcript.whisperx[3104].text 如果這個Art本身的內容
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transcript.whisperx[3105].text 後續還為實則的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3106].text 那相對的美國的價
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transcript.whisperx[3108].text 但是我們也評估了
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transcript.whisperx[3109].text 如果他從美國進來的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3110].text 那個價格會比國產的還低
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transcript.whisperx[3112].text 會造成國產的花生影響
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transcript.whisperx[3113].text 但是我要跟委員報告就是
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transcript.whisperx[3114].text 我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[3117].text 因為我們的成本都比較高的
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transcript.whisperx[3118].text 所以我們要變成用價值來做競爭
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transcript.whisperx[3119].text 表示說用品質
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transcript.whisperx[3120].text 跟我們的品牌來做區隔
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transcript.whisperx[3121].text 所以後續我想我們會趁這個機會去
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transcript.whisperx[3122].text 調整整個花生的產業結構
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transcript.whisperx[3123].text 我不要再讓農民自己在道路上曬花生
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transcript.whisperx[3124].text 我想我們會
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transcript.whisperx[3125].text 台灣的花生很好吃
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transcript.whisperx[3126].text 有沒有吃過
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transcript.whisperx[3127].text 是很好吃
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transcript.whisperx[3128].text 有它的香味
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transcript.whisperx[3129].text 我們那個彰化花生
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transcript.whisperx[3130].text 超級好吃
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transcript.whisperx[3131].text 所以我說台灣的花生有台灣的潛力
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transcript.whisperx[3132].text 供應國內市場
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transcript.whisperx[3133].text 我希望說帶動這樣的一個品牌
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transcript.whisperx[3134].text 跟它的品質
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transcript.whisperx[3135].text 然後利用這種
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transcript.whisperx[3136].text 就是施夾的收購的方式
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transcript.whisperx[3137].text 取代過去乾夾
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transcript.whisperx[3138].text 因為乾夾的部分農民要自己在道路上
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transcript.whisperx[3139].text 馬路上曬花生
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transcript.whisperx[3140].text 這個都是四五十年前一直延續的
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transcript.whisperx[3141].text 你講的是未來
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transcript.whisperx[3142].text 你講的是未來
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transcript.whisperx[3143].text 對我們現在都在啟動
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transcript.whisperx[3144].text 今年應該不會再進口
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transcript.whisperx[3145].text 因為今年的國內
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transcript.whisperx[3146].text 我在進口
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transcript.whisperx[3147].text 我們也要趁這個機會去改善
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transcript.whisperx[3148].text 我知道我說那是未來
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transcript.whisperx[3149].text 可是今年內不會再進口
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transcript.whisperx[3150].text 今年內的財政已經很多了
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transcript.whisperx[3151].text 它額度已經飆了
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transcript.whisperx[3152].text 它不會說放棄額度的權利金
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transcript.whisperx[3153].text 而去採買美金
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transcript.whisperx[3154].text 明年就是要怎麼樣子協助我們台灣的農民
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transcript.whisperx[3155].text 對所以我說今年就要啟動
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transcript.whisperx[3156].text 這種新的這樣的一個調整的方式
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transcript.whisperx[3157].text 還有再來就是
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transcript.whisperx[3158].text 另外一個就是豬肉的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3159].text 如果美國豬委
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transcript.whisperx[3160].text 林關稅的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3161].text 委員我想你一定喜歡吃台灣豬
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transcript.whisperx[3162].text 不會只是美國豬
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transcript.whisperx[3163].text 因為美國豬肉只占全體消費的1%
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transcript.whisperx[3164].text 其實我想大部分的豬農都不用擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3165].text 因為整個豬肉的市集率大概是
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transcript.whisperx[3166].text 平均大概88%
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transcript.whisperx[3167].text 去年比較低是83%
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transcript.whisperx[3168].text 因為非洲豬瘟的關係
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transcript.whisperx[3169].text 所以溫體豬肉跟豬肉的供應的型態
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transcript.whisperx[3170].text 台灣其實已經有它的黏著度
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transcript.whisperx[3171].text 所以美國要進來
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transcript.whisperx[3172].text 第一個要打敗加拿大
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transcript.whisperx[3173].text 那很難
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transcript.whisperx[3174].text 因為加拿大占40%
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transcript.whisperx[3175].text 所以他必須要跟競爭對手
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transcript.whisperx[3176].text 我競爭以後
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transcript.whisperx[3177].text 才有機會影響到國內
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transcript.whisperx[3178].text 所以我想委員可以不用擔心豬肉的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3179].text 我還是很擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3180].text 我怎麼可能不擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3181].text 我還是很擔心
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transcript.whisperx[3183].text 我還是很擔心國產豬
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transcript.whisperx[3184].text 你如果帶頭吃台灣豬肉就沒問題
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transcript.whisperx[3186].text 我已經天天吃豬肉了
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transcript.whisperx[3187].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3188].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[3190].text 部長請先回座
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transcript.whisperx[3191].text 下位置營請陳超明委員
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transcript.whisperx[3192].text 次序好
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transcript.whisperx[3193].text 首先有請農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[3194].text 同學好
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transcript.whisperx[3195].text 陳部長好
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transcript.whisperx[3196].text 首先請教你一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[3197].text 根據去年114人
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transcript.whisperx[3198].text 4月
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transcript.whisperx[3199].text 辭職的時候剛好是美國關稅的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3200].text 那時候我們的
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transcript.whisperx[3203].text 以維持歐國龍
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transcript.whisperx[3204].text 一系月集關鍵
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transcript.whisperx[3205].text 產業縱生利得
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transcript.whisperx[3206].text 就職報告
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transcript.whisperx[3207].text 那這個方案裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3209].text 投資強化運行
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transcript.whisperx[3212].text 那這裡面的方案裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3213].text 有
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transcript.whisperx[3215].text 歐國私人美國
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transcript.whisperx[3216].text 最主要的產品
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transcript.whisperx[3217].text 像蘭花啦
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transcript.whisperx[3218].text 毛豆啦
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transcript.whisperx[3219].text 茶葉啦
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transcript.whisperx[3220].text 還有蕾洋葉相關啦
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transcript.whisperx[3221].text 的關鍵主持
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transcript.whisperx[3222].text 關鍵主持
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transcript.whisperx[3225].text 經貿情勢的變化
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transcript.whisperx[3228].text 那我要問你
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transcript.whisperx[3229].text 你這191億元花完了沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3230].text 還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3231].text 還沒有 還剩多少
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transcript.whisperx[3233].text 70億左右 好
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transcript.whisperx[3236].text 好在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[3240].text 後來降到20
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transcript.whisperx[3243].text 台美的貿易關稅
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transcript.whisperx[3244].text 對等關稅要看
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transcript.whisperx[3250].text 因為我們關係比美國更好
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transcript.whisperx[3262].text 在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[3269].text 這230項的農業產品裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3270].text 後面台灣沒有一樣能受
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transcript.whisperx[3275].text 占比是30%
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transcript.whisperx[3284].text 既是密集的都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[3286].text 現在10
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transcript.whisperx[3288].text 那個競爭力是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[3289].text 那競爭力是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[3291].text 看我們品質嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3292].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[3294].text 他有特定提到一個產品
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transcript.whisperx[3295].text 就是醫療相關的農產品
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transcript.whisperx[3296].text 用於製造藥品植物原料材
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transcript.whisperx[3298].text 你要去研究一下
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transcript.whisperx[3299].text 生技的產品
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transcript.whisperx[3300].text 食物要用的產品
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transcript.whisperx[3302].text 看台灣有沒有找出一個機會
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transcript.whisperx[3303].text 中藥 中藥
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transcript.whisperx[3304].text 中國 台灣都一樣
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transcript.whisperx[3305].text 我像委員說的
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transcript.whisperx[3306].text 可能是保健食品
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transcript.whisperx[3307].text 不是保健食品
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transcript.whisperx[3308].text 他講那個植物啊
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transcript.whisperx[3309].text 農產品啊
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transcript.whisperx[3310].text 當然要去做保健食品
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transcript.whisperx[3311].text 再來我們再來了解
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transcript.whisperx[3312].text 好 我們再來了解
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transcript.whisperx[3313].text 再來啊
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transcript.whisperx[3314].text 我要跟你說說
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transcript.whisperx[3315].text 老農津貼啊
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transcript.whisperx[3316].text 來總統下去的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3317].text 我們提高到1萬塊
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transcript.whisperx[3318].text 好像很照顧農民
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transcript.whisperx[3319].text 農民他沒一定是貧窮的人
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transcript.whisperx[3320].text 這種裡面就代表
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transcript.whisperx[3321].text 他從8111年老農津貼
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transcript.whisperx[3322].text 13年沒有調整
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transcript.whisperx[3323].text 現在要調整到1萬年對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3324].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[3325].text 你知道調整到1萬年
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transcript.whisperx[3326].text 你知道多少嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3327].text 129年
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transcript.whisperx[3328].text 1890元
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transcript.whisperx[3329].text 沒有 129億吧
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transcript.whisperx[3330].text 129億啊
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transcript.whisperx[3331].text 不是啦 我曉得129億
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transcript.whisperx[3332].text 我說調整啊
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transcript.whisperx[3333].text 你從8111年
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transcript.whisperx[3334].text 10塊 了解
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transcript.whisperx[3335].text 1萬多啦
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transcript.whisperx[3336].text 1千8百塊
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transcript.whisperx[3337].text 對啦
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transcript.whisperx[3338].text 我給你建議有兩個方案
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transcript.whisperx[3339].text 要做就做好
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transcript.whisperx[3340].text 人家會給你惡樂
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transcript.whisperx[3341].text 這地方我覺得調的太少
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transcript.whisperx[3342].text 你不只把它調到
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transcript.whisperx[3343].text 1萬100元
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transcript.whisperx[3344].text 剛才給2千塊
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transcript.whisperx[3345].text 少買幾顆飛彈就有了
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transcript.whisperx[3346].text 不然你要做的更好
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transcript.whisperx[3348].text 調到1萬1110元
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transcript.whisperx[3349].text 都是1 1 1
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transcript.whisperx[3350].text 一定讚 一定好的
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transcript.whisperx[3351].text 我看農民街道的歡喜
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transcript.whisperx[3352].text 選票會更多
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transcript.whisperx[3353].text 剛才給3千塊
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transcript.whisperx[3354].text 你看喔 這個詩字很奇怪
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transcript.whisperx[3355].text 1111
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transcript.whisperx[3356].text 起來
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transcript.whisperx[3357].text 你看有漂亮嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3358].text 我覺得要調到1萬1千塊
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transcript.whisperx[3360].text 每調高1千塊
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transcript.whisperx[3361].text 要增加63億的這些
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transcript.whisperx[3362].text 國庫的一個支出
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transcript.whisperx[3363].text 那我們設計這樣子的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3364].text 金額是根據
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transcript.whisperx[3365].text CBI的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3368].text 少買幾顆飛彈就有了
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transcript.whisperx[3369].text 少買幾顆
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transcript.whisperx[3370].text 農民的支持也很重要
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transcript.whisperx[3371].text 是你們基本的力量
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transcript.whisperx[3372].text 我還是希望委員能夠支持
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transcript.whisperx[3373].text 一定讚
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transcript.whisperx[3374].text 希望委員能夠支持
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transcript.whisperx[3375].text 我們農業部的一個專業評估
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transcript.whisperx[3376].text 我是給你建議
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transcript.whisperx[3377].text 再來這個排布條款裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3378].text 大家一直在談
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transcript.whisperx[3379].text 個人所有土地區黃屋財產
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transcript.whisperx[3380].text 這方面真的要改善
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transcript.whisperx[3381].text 你們到現在都沒有動作
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transcript.whisperx[3382].text 我們已經全部排布了
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transcript.whisperx[3383].text 我們全部排布了
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transcript.whisperx[3384].text 唯一自助財本來400萬
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transcript.whisperx[3385].text 現在都變了
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transcript.whisperx[3386].text 現在完全都拿到了
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transcript.whisperx[3387].text 都拿到了
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transcript.whisperx[3388].text 那原來其他的財產
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transcript.whisperx[3390].text 然後財產的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3391].text 從500萬變成1025萬
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transcript.whisperx[3392].text 我現在繼續講
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transcript.whisperx[3393].text 兩年五六 我說過幾次
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transcript.whisperx[3394].text 苗栗縣政府投資1億
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transcript.whisperx[3396].text 你們的姚市長
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transcript.whisperx[3398].text 全力協助幫忙
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transcript.whisperx[3399].text 會照你們的計畫來進行
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transcript.whisperx[3401].text 我覺得姚市長很有觀念
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transcript.whisperx[3402].text 我們的交流來做
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transcript.whisperx[3403].text 我們是第一個
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transcript.whisperx[3406].text 正位上
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transcript.whisperx[3409].text 我們同仁去看標示
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transcript.whisperx[3410].text 我的支持
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transcript.whisperx[3411].text 然後第二點就是說
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transcript.whisperx[3412].text 相對的一定是要
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transcript.whisperx[3414].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[3416].text 怎麼樣去營運才重要
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transcript.whisperx[3422].text 所以相對的
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transcript.whisperx[3423].text 他們提出來的報告
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transcript.whisperx[3429].text 這個做得好
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transcript.whisperx[3430].text 以後照這個方式來說
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transcript.whisperx[3431].text 就一定會成功
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transcript.whisperx[3433].text 各個地方都已經做得蠻多的
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transcript.whisperx[3434].text 我們一定很有經驗
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transcript.whisperx[3436].text 其實很多重要的
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transcript.whisperx[3443].text 前面的缺點
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transcript.whisperx[3444].text 都把它棄止掉
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transcript.whisperx[3445].text 你是說
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transcript.whisperx[3446].text 拜託部長
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transcript.whisperx[3448].text 蓋的時候都說好
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transcript.whisperx[3449].text 結果蓋好以後營運主體出了問題
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transcript.whisperx[3450].text 我告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[3451].text 要蓋要精神
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transcript.whisperx[3452].text 這點我很認同你們的看法
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transcript.whisperx[3453].text 對啦
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transcript.whisperx[3454].text 觀點好不好
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transcript.whisperx[3455].text 再來你報告的第11頁裡面
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transcript.whisperx[3456].text 強化
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transcript.whisperx[3457].text 漁業產業的韌性
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transcript.whisperx[3458].text 及資源永續的利用
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transcript.whisperx[3459].text 我只看到一條
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transcript.whisperx[3460].text 很重要
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transcript.whisperx[3461].text 就是說你能準備在114年
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transcript.whisperx[3462].text 好 預定以苗栗彰化
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transcript.whisperx[3464].text 協調設置
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transcript.whisperx[3465].text 一支吊
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transcript.whisperx[3467].text 輔導成立
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transcript.whisperx[3468].text 那裡面是在哪裡呢
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transcript.whisperx[3472].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3473].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[3474].text 這個很重要
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transcript.whisperx[3475].text 為什麼呢
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transcript.whisperx[3476].text 因為現在花旗
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transcript.whisperx[3477].text 漁獲量都很大
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transcript.whisperx[3478].text 增加了很多
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transcript.whisperx[3479].text 而且是大條的
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transcript.whisperx[3480].text 像他們這一連裡面的收穫都非常的好
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transcript.whisperx[3481].text 所謂一支吊的成立
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transcript.whisperx[3482].text 我們王師長要特別拜託
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transcript.whisperx[3483].text 我一定要了解
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transcript.whisperx[3484].text 也請部長支持
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transcript.whisperx[3485].text 我一定支持
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transcript.whisperx[3486].text 因為風場
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transcript.whisperx[3487].text 它會影響到我們的資源
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transcript.whisperx[3488].text 那維網的部分是很難去處理
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transcript.whisperx[3489].text 所以開發這種一支吊的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3490].text 讓漁比較不會受傷
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transcript.whisperx[3491].text 讓它的單價變高
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transcript.whisperx[3492].text 我希望說漁民透過這個方式
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transcript.whisperx[3493].text 能夠提高它的收入
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transcript.whisperx[3494].text 那一月示
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transcript.whisperx[3495].text 我真的要稱讚你
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transcript.whisperx[3496].text 你能想到這個地方
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transcript.whisperx[3497].text 我那邊還有一個非常
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transcript.whisperx[3499].text 而且都已經在運作了
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transcript.whisperx[3500].text 我們縣政府還掉了150萬
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transcript.whisperx[3501].text 給我們坎口的
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transcript.whisperx[3502].text 是像塑膠牌那種
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transcript.whisperx[3503].text 我跟你們申請了好幾次
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transcript.whisperx[3504].text 都不給
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transcript.whisperx[3505].text 然後我就到縣政府
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transcript.whisperx[3506].text 拜託縣長
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transcript.whisperx[3507].text 他說好沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[3508].text 這台機成立要你命死
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transcript.whisperx[3509].text 是怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[3510].text 只是在三分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[3511].text 拜託一下坐一下
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transcript.whisperx[3512].text 本來我壓力很大
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transcript.whisperx[3513].text 腳都麻了
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transcript.whisperx[3514].text 我簡單說就好了
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transcript.whisperx[3515].text 我的壓力很大
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transcript.whisperx[3516].text 所有的坎口班
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transcript.whisperx[3517].text 過去賣一隻鳥
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transcript.whisperx[3518].text 然後漁港的那個
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transcript.whisperx[3519].text 那個什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3520].text 定制網
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transcript.whisperx[3521].text 不是定制網
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transcript.whisperx[3522].text 定制網好像是在通宵跟院裡的地方
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transcript.whisperx[3524].text 還有龍鳳漁港
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transcript.whisperx[3526].text 明天要去看
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transcript.whisperx[3527].text 剛好絕額在一起
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transcript.whisperx[3528].text 非常好
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transcript.whisperx[3530].text 但是全省排名第八名
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transcript.whisperx[3531].text 我們有信心進到全省名
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transcript.whisperx[3532].text 只有部長支持我們這個榮譽
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transcript.whisperx[3535].text 我們已經提供一些經費
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transcript.whisperx[3536].text 做一些規劃
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transcript.whisperx[3537].text 但是我們也是要去提醒
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transcript.whisperx[3538].text 規劃歸規劃
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transcript.whisperx[3540].text 後面怎麼樣讓業者
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transcript.whisperx[3541].text 漁民這些攤販能夠進來
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transcript.whisperx[3543].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3544].text 那個交通地點非常好
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transcript.whisperx[3545].text 人才的齊備在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[3546].text 都是取得最新最好的方式來進行
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transcript.whisperx[3547].text 明年會看我會親自到
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transcript.whisperx[3548].text 我對這個很重視
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transcript.whisperx[3549].text 因為我為了龍鳳漁港
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transcript.whisperx[3550].text 我開了一個將近十億的道路
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transcript.whisperx[3551].text 直接聯絡到那一邊
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transcript.whisperx[3552].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[3553].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3554].text 要部長點頭
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transcript.whisperx[3555].text 王思宅你點頭
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transcript.whisperx[3556].text 明天明天會去現看
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transcript.whisperx[3557].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3559].text 幾十年都沒有辦法解決
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transcript.whisperx[3560].text 拜託你
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transcript.whisperx[3561].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3562].text 這個都要補大一點
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transcript.whisperx[3563].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[3564].text 那個風波紗
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transcript.whisperx[3565].text 也不是免費多
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transcript.whisperx[3566].text 這樣整十年都沒辦法改善
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transcript.whisperx[3567].text 廣府就可以去處理了
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transcript.whisperx[3568].text 因為廣府可以去處理了
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transcript.whisperx[3569].text 廣府就可以去處理了
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transcript.whisperx[3570].text 真是什麼廣府可以去處理
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transcript.whisperx[3571].text 我免得吵吵架
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transcript.whisperx[3572].text 我下次找你算帳
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transcript.whisperx[3573].text 不給你算好
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transcript.whisperx[3574].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[3576].text 但你也讓我站的腳都麻了
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transcript.whisperx[3577].text 好 部長請回座
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transcript.whisperx[3578].text 好 下一支請郭國文委員
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transcript.whisperx[3579].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[3582].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[3583].text 部長對於這一個極端氣候
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transcript.whisperx[3584].text 然後台南又是水庫最多的地方
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transcript.whisperx[3585].text 然後現階段很多農民都是非常肯定
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transcript.whisperx[3586].text 那個部長的這一個擴大灌區的政策
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transcript.whisperx[3587].text 那就報告當中
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transcript.whisperx[3588].text 其實農堂的部分有31間
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transcript.whisperx[3589].text 那本席的選舉就通過9件
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transcript.whisperx[3590].text 但是這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[3591].text 以前在農堂的這個部分的輕於
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transcript.whisperx[3592].text 都是具有公益性與否
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transcript.whisperx[3593].text 來做一個判斷的標準
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transcript.whisperx[3594].text 這個基本上本席是同意
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transcript.whisperx[3595].text 所以我們多付使用
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transcript.whisperx[3596].text 水管是我們外接的
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transcript.whisperx[3597].text 這OK
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transcript.whisperx[3598].text 但是呢其實對我們之前對於
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transcript.whisperx[3599].text 農民的一些蓄水或灌水的設施
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transcript.whisperx[3600].text 都有予以補助
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transcript.whisperx[3601].text 甚至包括水塔啦
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transcript.whisperx[3602].text 滴灌啦還有灑水設施等等
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transcript.whisperx[3603].text 從四成五甚至到八成都有
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transcript.whisperx[3604].text 可是同樣的這個要解決水的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3605].text 私人農堂的部分就面臨很大的問題耶
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transcript.whisperx[3606].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[3607].text 私人農堂它自己要處理土方耶
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transcript.whisperx[3608].text 你也知道現在土方很難處理
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transcript.whisperx[3609].text 那要填寫很多的表格
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transcript.whisperx[3610].text 在行政作業上成本非常的高
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transcript.whisperx[3611].text 所以我說請部長再思考一下
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transcript.whisperx[3612].text 如何把這個擴大關區能夠真正落實的話
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transcript.whisperx[3613].text 除了公益性的考量
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transcript.whisperx[3615].text 也可以解決農民的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3616].text 來比照水塔設施的購買方式
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transcript.whisperx[3617].text 來予以一些政策上的補助
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transcript.whisperx[3618].text 或者行政上的協助
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transcript.whisperx[3619].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[3620].text 謝謝委員喔
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transcript.whisperx[3621].text 一直在關心這個議題
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transcript.whisperx[3622].text 那我們也非常認真地去思考
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transcript.whisperx[3623].text 相關的特別公私人的農台的部分喔
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transcript.whisperx[3624].text 那這個部分喔
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transcript.whisperx[3625].text 本來我們是以公益農堂為優先嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3626].text 那私人農堂我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[3627].text 我也請農村水保署這邊再設計
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transcript.whisperx[3628].text 用什麼
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transcript.whisperx[3629].text 當然不能完全比照公益的啦
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transcript.whisperx[3630].text 所以我們會去了解它的樣態
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transcript.whisperx[3631].text 到底需要的協助
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transcript.whisperx[3632].text 包括這些
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transcript.whisperx[3633].text 必要的普查是需要的
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transcript.whisperx[3634].text 必要的部分我們會做一個調查以後再來處理
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transcript.whisperx[3635].text 因為我幾年水庫常常缺水
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transcript.whisperx[3636].text 這是很諷刺的事情嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3637].text 大家說農堂的重要性
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transcript.whisperx[3638].text 我們家裡為什麼不行
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transcript.whisperx[3639].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3640].text 我認同委員說的
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transcript.whisperx[3641].text 我們的水資源很重要
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transcript.whisperx[3642].text 不能公分施啦
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transcript.whisperx[3643].text 私人農堂一個月嘛好不好
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transcript.whisperx[3644].text 一個給本席答覆
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transcript.whisperx[3645].text 你要怎麼去協助
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transcript.whisperx[3646].text 怎麼樣去輔導
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transcript.whisperx[3647].text 政策補助
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transcript.whisperx[3648].text 該給的要給
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transcript.whisperx[3649].text 該面對的要面對
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transcript.whisperx[3650].text 另外一個部分當然還有一個
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transcript.whisperx[3651].text 擴大灌區另一種就是
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transcript.whisperx[3652].text 水池 驅水池的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3653].text 我這個部分12座啦
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transcript.whisperx[3654].text 已經完成完工3座
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transcript.whisperx[3655].text 目前呢
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transcript.whisperx[3656].text 還有後面還有5加4
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transcript.whisperx[3657].text 還有5加5的在施工中還有4座
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transcript.whisperx[3658].text 但4座的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3659].text 當然早期我們實驗室在南西的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[3660].text 有些是後面是要預警
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transcript.whisperx[3661].text 然後還有南化
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transcript.whisperx[3662].text 還有大內
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transcript.whisperx[3663].text 這些東西你們在尋找地點的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3664].text 你稍微探聽一下啦
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transcript.whisperx[3665].text 不然農堂農兵已經很多地方
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transcript.whisperx[3666].text 你又用一個驅水池
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transcript.whisperx[3667].text 那邊的邊際消費沒大嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3668].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[3669].text 你不能聽電話說他要請署
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transcript.whisperx[3670].text 這不是電飛條耶
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transcript.whisperx[3671].text 這要花很多錢耶
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transcript.whisperx[3672].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[3673].text 我想後續喔
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transcript.whisperx[3674].text 就是第一個部分就是地點的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[3675].text 我想我們後續會更跟委員討論
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transcript.whisperx[3676].text 因為委員在地方在走動可能更清楚
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transcript.whisperx[3677].text 第二個部分這5座的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3678].text 我們做合併發包
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transcript.whisperx[3679].text 大概在11月就能夠完工啦
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transcript.whisperx[3680].text 我知道
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transcript.whisperx[3681].text 但是後面4座的部分選址要很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[3682].text 而且4座選址完以後
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transcript.whisperx[3683].text 6加4會到手了解
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transcript.whisperx[3684].text 那我說你現在只有12座
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transcript.whisperx[3685].text 第二階段要幾座你也地方要講一下
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transcript.whisperx[3686].text 好這個部分我想我們後續
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transcript.whisperx[3687].text 跟委員來溝通喔
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transcript.whisperx[3688].text 看看哪個地方是最好的
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transcript.whisperx[3689].text 最有效率的這樣能達到農民的需求
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transcript.whisperx[3690].text 沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[3691].text 你不要像公共人家說要踩人家門口
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transcript.whisperx[3692].text 靠你來踩下去
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transcript.whisperx[3693].text 這個我們會注意
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transcript.whisperx[3694].text 這個才是真正需要工藝性的考量
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transcript.whisperx[3695].text 另外一個部分喔
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transcript.whisperx[3696].text 那個我想署長後面也在跟你搖耳朵喔
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transcript.whisperx[3697].text 那個長水工很重要啦
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transcript.whisperx[3698].text 我們管他會通關
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transcript.whisperx[3699].text 因為管他會說長水工喔
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transcript.whisperx[3700].text 我賣九百錢還這麼多錢
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transcript.whisperx[3701].text 你知道他們每天在看
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transcript.whisperx[3702].text 福利一直增加啦
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transcript.whisperx[3703].text 基本工資每天調啦
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transcript.whisperx[3704].text 這個數十年才調兩百啦
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transcript.whisperx[3705].text 也沒有底薪啦
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transcript.whisperx[3706].text 部長人很難找啦
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transcript.whisperx[3707].text 他要找不到長水工啦
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transcript.whisperx[3708].text 你沒把他基本的保障
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transcript.whisperx[3709].text 建立起來你會很麻煩啦
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transcript.whisperx[3710].text 我跟委員報告喔
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transcript.whisperx[3711].text 針對長水工的部分喔
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transcript.whisperx[3712].text 第一線的工作其實我們已經有在規劃
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transcript.whisperx[3714].text 那這個部分因為薪資結構
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transcript.whisperx[3715].text 不是用業務費就可以處理
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transcript.whisperx[3716].text 是沒錯
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transcript.whisperx[3717].text 我們也會再去跟人總這邊看看怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[3718].text 有錢有拿錢
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transcript.whisperx[3719].text 打零工嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3720].text 管他制度化嘛
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transcript.whisperx[3721].text 這個我們已經在規劃了
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transcript.whisperx[3722].text 積極的面對這個問題啦
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transcript.whisperx[3723].text 這個勞動你不可缺啊
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transcript.whisperx[3724].text 特別在第一線的我們一定要保障
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transcript.whisperx[3725].text 那這個一個月給本席
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transcript.whisperx[3726].text 還有一個很重要的事情喔
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transcript.whisperx[3727].text 最近本席到這個山區喔
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transcript.whisperx[3728].text 你看看
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transcript.whisperx[3729].text 最重要兩行水工
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transcript.whisperx[3730].text 芒果
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transcript.whisperx[3731].text 還有雲淡
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transcript.whisperx[3732].text 都出問題了
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transcript.whisperx[3733].text 芒果第一個問題呢是早期的這個著果率不到五成
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transcript.whisperx[3734].text 空包彈比例非常的高
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transcript.whisperx[3735].text 有一說是人工造雨所造成
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transcript.whisperx[3736].text 每年都有人工造雨問題
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transcript.whisperx[3737].text 他會變歐啊
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transcript.whisperx[3738].text 我胸皮會變歐啊
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transcript.whisperx[3739].text 然後呢這裡頭有幾個
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transcript.whisperx[3740].text 一個時間差一個是地面差
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transcript.whisperx[3741].text 還有一個是藥劑成分
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transcript.whisperx[3742].text 可以做調整
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transcript.whisperx[3743].text 為什麼每年都遇到這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[3744].text 部長我們要解決這個問題啊
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transcript.whisperx[3745].text 否則我們每年看再看再不完啊這是第一個
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transcript.whisperx[3746].text 第二個是雲淡這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[3747].text 雲淡去年風災非常的嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[3748].text 以至於果樹根部鬆動
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transcript.whisperx[3749].text 所以今年喔
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transcript.whisperx[3750].text 那個根本沒有開什麼雲淡花
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transcript.whisperx[3751].text 雲淡花很多沒開
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transcript.whisperx[3752].text 這兩大作業遷入到著果率
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transcript.whisperx[3753].text 這個節食率的問題可能
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transcript.whisperx[3754].text 減少風險部長你要去面對
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transcript.whisperx[3755].text 我給你們報告
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transcript.whisperx[3756].text 特別說芒果跟雲淡的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3757].text 因為他今年的開花的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3758].text 不如預期嘛但是開花
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transcript.whisperx[3759].text 本身的結果率更重要啦
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transcript.whisperx[3760].text 所以我已經要求我們的
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transcript.whisperx[3761].text 該領隊要隨時去
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transcript.whisperx[3762].text 掌握這個現況如果儘早
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transcript.whisperx[3763].text 能夠確認他可能會影響的話
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transcript.whisperx[3764].text 現在三月中
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transcript.whisperx[3765].text 現在就要預估我們三月
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transcript.whisperx[3766].text 必要的時候我們一起去會看一下
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transcript.whisperx[3767].text 還有一個就是說每次拿到這個天然災害補助
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transcript.whisperx[3768].text 一單都要擔擔當一項
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transcript.whisperx[3769].text 看有什麼方式沒縮短
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transcript.whisperx[3770].text 你一開始補助
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transcript.whisperx[3771].text 我們要被問半年
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transcript.whisperx[3772].text 我們針對這些氣象型的災損的品項
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transcript.whisperx[3773].text 我們一路去再開這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[3774].text 這兩點問題
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transcript.whisperx[3775].text 事後給本席一個答覆
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transcript.whisperx[3776].text 找個時間我們下去看一下
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transcript.whisperx[3777].text 謝謝部長謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[3778].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[3779].text 謝謝國務委員部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[3780].text 下位置請賴瑞榮委員
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transcript.whisperx[3781].text 謝謝趙偉請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[3782].text 謝謝農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[3783].text 部長
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transcript.whisperx[3784].text 我先請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[3785].text 現在因為總預算遲遲沒有審
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transcript.whisperx[3786].text 那也沒有通過
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transcript.whisperx[3787].text 那現在大概估起來
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transcript.whisperx[3788].text 應該會有九十億會無法來運用
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transcript.whisperx[3789].text 那這個九十億無法運用的話
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transcript.whisperx[3790].text 會不會造成重大的一些影響
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transcript.whisperx[3791].text 我要跟委員說明一下
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transcript.whisperx[3792].text 雖然說檯面上看起來
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transcript.whisperx[3793].text 是九十億不能運用
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transcript.whisperx[3794].text 但是新興計畫跟
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transcript.whisperx[3795].text 元旭計畫之間有非常重要的串聯性
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transcript.whisperx[3796].text 你不能說
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transcript.whisperx[3797].text 選擇性的同意我們一些
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transcript.whisperx[3798].text 我們一些治水的
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transcript.whisperx[3799].text 基本的底如果不通過的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3800].text 我們對農民的這些
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transcript.whisperx[3801].text 基礎建設的一些
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transcript.whisperx[3802].text 協助是沒有辦法去處理的
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transcript.whisperx[3803].text 所以這樣整個總影響大概會
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transcript.whisperx[3804].text 超過多少的
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transcript.whisperx[3805].text 我覺得至少要四五倍
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transcript.whisperx[3806].text 實際的金額來講
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transcript.whisperx[3807].text 九十億看起來是九十億
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transcript.whisperx[3808].text 但是有可能是四五百億
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transcript.whisperx[3809].text 因為很多地方的建設
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transcript.whisperx[3810].text 我不可能因為後面
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transcript.whisperx[3811].text 新增要做的不能做的
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transcript.whisperx[3812].text 前面也會受到影響
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transcript.whisperx[3813].text 到底這樣的進行會不會受到影響
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transcript.whisperx[3814].text 所以我們還是期待
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transcript.whisperx[3815].text 總預算不能選擇性的通過一定要
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transcript.whisperx[3816].text 有問題我們願意在
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transcript.whisperx[3817].text 委員會這邊跟委員
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transcript.whisperx[3818].text 做溝通
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transcript.whisperx[3819].text 這個要不斷的對外說明
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transcript.whisperx[3820].text 其實包括地方農民
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transcript.whisperx[3821].text 所有的重大建設都一直在
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transcript.whisperx[3822].text 等待這些建設其實
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transcript.whisperx[3823].text 是國家整體一體的
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transcript.whisperx[3824].text 如果遲遲的卡住的話
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transcript.whisperx[3825].text 因為立法院沒有審預算遲遲的卡住
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transcript.whisperx[3826].text 讓整個建設
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transcript.whisperx[3827].text 地方的一些受到影響的話
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transcript.whisperx[3828].text 我想這個大家並不樂見
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transcript.whisperx[3829].text 所以我覺得這個要不斷的讓社會科學家說
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transcript.whisperx[3830].text 而且最後其實總的責任
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transcript.whisperx[3831].text 職人團隊也會面對相當大的壓力
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transcript.whisperx[3832].text 那為什麼不能做
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transcript.whisperx[3833].text 那我再問一下如果這些總預算
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transcript.whisperx[3834].text 如果遲遲都沒有通過的話
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transcript.whisperx[3835].text 我們還有什麼樣的手段可以來做
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transcript.whisperx[3836].text 我想我們是毫無手段
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transcript.whisperx[3837].text 特別是我舉個例子
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transcript.whisperx[3838].text 我們現在目前本身的養豬
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transcript.whisperx[3839].text 轉型的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3840].text 去年非洲諸婚的時候還缺了一些十幾億的錢
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transcript.whisperx[3841].text 那這個十幾億的錢
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transcript.whisperx[3842].text 一定會用到災損金或第二預備金
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transcript.whisperx[3843].text 那總預算不能通過的話
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transcript.whisperx[3844].text 災損金第二預備金都不能用
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transcript.whisperx[3845].text 這個沒辦法先動用
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transcript.whisperx[3846].text 也沒辦法先動用
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transcript.whisperx[3847].text 這個就是一個很實際的案例
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transcript.whisperx[3848].text 所以我還是希望大院
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transcript.whisperx[3849].text 這邊進到
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transcript.whisperx[3850].text 如果這個沒辦法動用的話會有什麼樣的影響
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transcript.whisperx[3853].text 走到一半就會卡住了
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transcript.whisperx[3854].text 因為後續我想我們政府對於農民的承諾
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transcript.whisperx[3855].text 一定是在的
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transcript.whisperx[3856].text 我們本來是要明年完全要完成
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transcript.whisperx[3857].text 年底就要
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transcript.whisperx[3858].text 全部都改成是
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transcript.whisperx[3859].text 不能夠再走出於的制度
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transcript.whisperx[3860].text 特別是大家關心的豬架的問題
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transcript.whisperx[3861].text 如果說沒有一些
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transcript.whisperx[3862].text 穩定的措施的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3863].text 那個豬架是沒辦法維持
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transcript.whisperx[3864].text 豬架甚至於也會增加
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transcript.whisperx[3865].text 還有其他的產銷條件
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transcript.whisperx[3866].text 很多委員關心的產銷條件的部分
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transcript.whisperx[3867].text 如果沒有經費到位的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3868].text 是沒辦法處理的
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transcript.whisperx[3869].text 所以這幾個問題恐怕請部長都要再
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transcript.whisperx[3870].text 加強對外說明
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transcript.whisperx[3871].text 同時也加強跟委員間的溝通
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transcript.whisperx[3872].text 我覺得整體國家是一體的
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transcript.whisperx[3873].text 所以大家對農民的照顧
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transcript.whisperx[3874].text 都是一體的
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transcript.whisperx[3875].text 不要因為這些因素影響到農業的發展
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transcript.whisperx[3876].text 我們預算很樂意跟委員
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transcript.whisperx[3877].text 在委員會討論溝通
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transcript.whisperx[3878].text 但是也希望說能夠至少
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transcript.whisperx[3879].text 副委讓我們有機會去說明
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transcript.whisperx[3880].text 再來我請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[3881].text 最近的雨量的問題也讓大家擔憂
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transcript.whisperx[3882].text 高雄遇到大概70年來的
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transcript.whisperx[3883].text 最低的降雨量
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transcript.whisperx[3884].text 那我先問一下部長這個灌溉上面
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transcript.whisperx[3885].text 會不會有問題 冰身用水會不會有問題
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transcript.whisperx[3886].text 我想我們
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transcript.whisperx[3887].text 因為冬雨跟春雨這邊
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transcript.whisperx[3888].text 現在目前看起來降雨的
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transcript.whisperx[3889].text 量非常少
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transcript.whisperx[3890].text 那南部的地區本身因為
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transcript.whisperx[3891].text 一起做用水量最大的風情
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transcript.whisperx[3892].text 已經過了 但是我們不能掉以輕心
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transcript.whisperx[3893].text 因為還有一些波地的
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transcript.whisperx[3894].text 果樹需要一些雨來
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transcript.whisperx[3895].text 滋潤
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transcript.whisperx[3896].text 所以現在初步上是
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transcript.whisperx[3897].text 第一期是過了 但是後面還是要審慎的
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transcript.whisperx[3898].text 對 審慎的
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transcript.whisperx[3899].text 那部長有沒有什麼樣的一些方案
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transcript.whisperx[3901].text 清明這段時間的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[3902].text 仍然不好的狀況下
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transcript.whisperx[3903].text 那部裡面有沒有什麼一些
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transcript.whisperx[3905].text 那我們也會準備了一些抗岸的車
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transcript.whisperx[3906].text 特別在紅桃水域
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transcript.whisperx[3907].text 需要水的時候我們可以來做一些協助
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transcript.whisperx[3908].text 然後利用一些區排
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transcript.whisperx[3909].text 我們可以回收的水
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transcript.whisperx[3910].text 所以我們有很多多元的這個抗岸的作為
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transcript.whisperx[3911].text 我們會同步來啟動
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transcript.whisperx[3914].text 我想我們會盡量的去保住
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transcript.whisperx[3915].text 用這樣的一個方式
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transcript.whisperx[3916].text 也有提前因應的做了最壞的一些裝置
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transcript.whisperx[3917].text 因為大自然的氣候
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transcript.whisperx[3918].text 特別現在極端氣候真的
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transcript.whisperx[3919].text 異常了 所以變成不是我們能決定
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transcript.whisperx[3920].text 但是我們要做萬全的一些準備
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transcript.whisperx[3921].text 對 我們在2月3號
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transcript.whisperx[3922].text 跟經濟部水利署已經成立了
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transcript.whisperx[3924].text 然後去討論怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[3925].text 去讓我們的農民的用水
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transcript.whisperx[3926].text 能夠達到他們的需求
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transcript.whisperx[3927].text 好 這個請部長在密切的
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transcript.whisperx[3928].text 保持注意
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transcript.whisperx[3929].text 那再來我請教一下這一次我們其實
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transcript.whisperx[3930].text 日本的東京食品展部分
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transcript.whisperx[3931].text 加速有減少
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transcript.whisperx[3932].text 過去的時候曾經最多有到十幾家
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transcript.whisperx[3934].text 那跟預算有關係嗎
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transcript.whisperx[3935].text 我想這跟預算沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[3936].text 這基本上就是東京食品展
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transcript.whisperx[3937].text 那今年我們有一個台灣館
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transcript.whisperx[3938].text 那台灣館本身的造型
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transcript.whisperx[3939].text 吸引很多外來客來看到
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transcript.whisperx[3940].text 然後有15個縣市共同展出
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transcript.whisperx[3941].text 所以我們未來
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transcript.whisperx[3942].text 希望說農業部主辦的
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transcript.whisperx[3944].text 我覺得這是一個好的模式
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transcript.whisperx[3945].text 因為我們要整個整體行銷台灣
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transcript.whisperx[3947].text 有這樣來做
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transcript.whisperx[3948].text 從以前不管是觀光各方面的
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transcript.whisperx[3949].text 我覺得這樣的都會達到最大效益
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transcript.whisperx[3950].text 希望趁著這幾年剛好
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transcript.whisperx[3952].text 那我們用台灣館的方式
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transcript.whisperx[3953].text 把我們各縣市好的農產品集體行銷出去
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transcript.whisperx[3954].text 對 特別是在這次東京食品展
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transcript.whisperx[3956].text 準備了非常多的這些農特產品
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transcript.whisperx[3957].text 那我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[3958].text 我看到很多
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transcript.whisperx[3959].text 潛在的買者
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transcript.whisperx[3960].text 都有去詢問
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transcript.whisperx[3961].text 我覺得這個是非常好的事情
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transcript.whisperx[3962].text 日本我覺得是最這幾年來
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transcript.whisperx[3963].text 特別是日本我覺得是非常好的一個
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transcript.whisperx[3964].text 打入日本市場的機會
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transcript.whisperx[3965].text 那我希望
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transcript.whisperx[3966].text 在接下來農業部也要加大這個力道
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transcript.whisperx[3967].text 我們未來持續
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transcript.whisperx[3968].text 加大行銷的力道
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transcript.whisperx[3969].text 加大整個這些的力道
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transcript.whisperx[3970].text 讓我們台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[3971].text 不只是高雄 台灣好的農產品
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transcript.whisperx[3972].text 能夠進到日本的市場去
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transcript.whisperx[3973].text 那這個電力下來
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transcript.whisperx[3974].text 應該有很大很大的效益
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transcript.whisperx[3975].text 我想因為主席本身
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transcript.whisperx[3976].text 他太太是日本人
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transcript.whisperx[3977].text 我想他感受應該非常深刻
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transcript.whisperx[3978].text 這幾年跟日本的關係非常好
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transcript.whisperx[3979].text 那我想應該把握這場機會
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transcript.whisperx[3980].text 主席也可以多帶領大家
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transcript.whisperx[3981].text 到日本去做行銷
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transcript.whisperx[3982].text 我認為這個都會達到很好很好的一個效果
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transcript.whisperx[3984].text 其實這幾年我覺得是一個成功的案例
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transcript.whisperx[3985].text 以前我們受到中國
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transcript.whisperx[3986].text 你看在2014年我們幾乎中國是
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transcript.whisperx[3987].text 日本佔12
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transcript.whisperx[3988].text 但是到了2024年的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3989].text 我們幾乎在日本因為受到中國的影響
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transcript.whisperx[3990].text 但是日本我們已經佔到了92
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transcript.whisperx[3991].text 我覺得這就是一個很成功的例子
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transcript.whisperx[3992].text 就是我們進入到日本市場的時候
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transcript.whisperx[3993].text 變成我們就比較不依賴某個單一的市場
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transcript.whisperx[3994].text 變成不受到一些影響
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transcript.whisperx[3995].text 我覺得這樣的例子
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transcript.whisperx[3996].text 恐怕為了要持續的大力來推展
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transcript.whisperx[3997].text 進到日本的市場
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transcript.whisperx[3999].text 那美國其實也有一個蠻潛在的市場
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transcript.whisperx[4001].text 對5月能夠輸給我們
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transcript.whisperx[4002].text 那我接下來問一下部長好了
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transcript.whisperx[4003].text 對日本跟對美國
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transcript.whisperx[4004].text 我們接下來還能不能拿幾個農產品
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transcript.whisperx[4005].text 是未來農業部阻力要消亡
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transcript.whisperx[4008].text 因為毛豆在美國市場
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transcript.whisperx[4010].text 可是相對的
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transcript.whisperx[4011].text 在日本部分我們的關稅會比中國還高
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transcript.whisperx[4012].text 所以我這次去的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4013].text 在特別面到一些關鍵人物的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4015].text 希望關稅能夠適度的下降
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transcript.whisperx[4016].text 所以我們在進軍美國的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4017].text 也要回防到日本的市場
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transcript.whisperx[4018].text 然後還有東南亞
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transcript.whisperx[4019].text 特別是澳洲跟紐西蘭的市場
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transcript.whisperx[4020].text 也是我們最近幾年
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transcript.whisperx[4021].text 支持在努力的
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transcript.whisperx[4022].text 還有歐盟的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4023].text 包括紅龍果一些部分
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transcript.whisperx[4024].text 我希望部長把這些都抓出來
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transcript.whisperx[4025].text 因為其實我們很清楚的戰略目標
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transcript.whisperx[4026].text 我們就有機會打進這幾個市場
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transcript.whisperx[4027].text 那把國家的力道加速進去的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4028].text 就有機會讓我們農民
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transcript.whisperx[4029].text 讓我們的品牌行銷得到更好的效益
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transcript.whisperx[4030].text 我想我們會很努力來做
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transcript.whisperx[4031].text 請部長再大力支持
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transcript.whisperx[4032].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[4033].text 謝謝賴議員委員
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transcript.whisperx[4034].text 謝謝部長 部長請先回座
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transcript.whisperx[4035].text 下位置請丁學忠委員
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transcript.whisperx[4036].text 好 感謝早委
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transcript.whisperx[4037].text 我請丁國正
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transcript.whisperx[4039].text 請回座
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transcript.whisperx[4040].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[4041].text 這次的這個會議
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transcript.whisperx[4042].text 從這次論到我的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4043].text 國中剛好清告
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transcript.whisperx[4044].text 前幾天我們分辨這麼多都抓問題
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transcript.whisperx[4045].text 那時候我們沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[4046].text 他會自己討論
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transcript.whisperx[4047].text 剛才談到這次經濟委員會
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transcript.whisperx[4048].text 來這裡來跟你討論
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transcript.whisperx[4049].text 這兩天我和中華軍委員
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transcript.whisperx[4050].text 去土口看到我們蒜農的這個北唐海
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transcript.whisperx[4051].text 蒜農北唐海
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transcript.whisperx[4052].text 從看起來就是這個紅豬豬
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transcript.whisperx[4053].text 來影響到我們這個蒜頭的這個生長
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transcript.whisperx[4054].text 現狀看這麼多
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transcript.whisperx[4055].text 我們這個蒜辣都已經枯黃
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transcript.whisperx[4056].text 他會告
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transcript.whisperx[4057].text 我們沒辦法告生長
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transcript.whisperx[4058].text 就是影響分
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transcript.whisperx[4059].text 沒辦法好吃到你跟那個告裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4060].text 外面建設
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transcript.whisperx[4061].text 所以當一分地有可能
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transcript.whisperx[4062].text 如果正常修成有可能
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transcript.whisperx[4063].text 修成三千支援三千五斤
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transcript.whisperx[4064].text 現在有可能建一千支千五斤
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transcript.whisperx[4065].text 但這個告我們都要告
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transcript.whisperx[4066].text 要怎麼來協助農民
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transcript.whisperx[4067].text 第一點的部分就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4068].text 我們的蒜其實是雲林非常重要的一個產業
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transcript.whisperx[4069].text 那在他收成的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4071].text 紅蜘蛛還有騎馬的影響
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transcript.whisperx[4072].text 那這個部分我想
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transcript.whisperx[4073].text 因為他還離收成節還有一個月
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transcript.whisperx[4074].text 還有機會救
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transcript.whisperx[4075].text 就是讓他持續的肥大
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transcript.whisperx[4076].text 那改良廠已經成立了一個輔導團隊去協助
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transcript.whisperx[4077].text 第二點就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4078].text 相對的今年的面積有增加
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transcript.whisperx[4079].text 這是一點
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transcript.whisperx[4081].text 但是因為我們的產量可能有點減少
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transcript.whisperx[4082].text 所以整個的一個價格
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transcript.whisperx[4083].text 可能有一部分是去年的大蒜本身
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transcript.whisperx[4084].text 還有一些庫存
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transcript.whisperx[4085].text 進口的大蒜還有一些庫存
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transcript.whisperx[4086].text 那種種的因素導致現在目前
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transcript.whisperx[4087].text 的價格不是很穩定
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transcript.whisperx[4088].text 特別是這些行口的部分都
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transcript.whisperx[4089].text 比較不願意進場
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transcript.whisperx[4091].text 我不太相信
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transcript.whisperx[4095].text 但是我們會用
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transcript.whisperx[4096].text 其他的方式來協助業者
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transcript.whisperx[4097].text 協助農民去確保他的
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transcript.whisperx[4098].text 一個基本的
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transcript.whisperx[4099].text 收入跟價格
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transcript.whisperx[4100].text 國政法官那天我中這項
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transcript.whisperx[4101].text 是我們胡市長
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transcript.whisperx[4102].text 他代表在日本這項
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transcript.whisperx[4103].text 那時候他就在地上
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transcript.whisperx[4104].text 他有跟我告證說
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transcript.whisperx[4105].text 27塊一箱
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transcript.whisperx[4107].text 現在國政你來
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transcript.whisperx[4110].text 進場說要協助農民
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transcript.whisperx[4111].text 的工法
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transcript.whisperx[4112].text 我給委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4114].text 他基本上不是用保價
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transcript.whisperx[4115].text 他不是
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transcript.whisperx[4118].text 去收
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transcript.whisperx[4120].text 你們農民分明已經設定過
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transcript.whisperx[4121].text 的半箱來收這個
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transcript.whisperx[4122].text 的扇頭了
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transcript.whisperx[4125].text 這個是任何
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transcript.whisperx[4126].text 委員或任何人了解
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transcript.whisperx[4127].text 都不會
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transcript.whisperx[4128].text 但是我會
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transcript.whisperx[4129].text 為什麼你會入場買保價收購
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transcript.whisperx[4130].text 我不會用保價
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transcript.whisperx[4131].text 收購但是我會用其他的方式
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transcript.whisperx[4132].text 來協助
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transcript.whisperx[4133].text 其他的方式我想我們
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transcript.whisperx[4134].text 很快就會來宣布
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transcript.whisperx[4135].text 我給國政
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transcript.whisperx[4136].text 說一個歷史
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transcript.whisperx[4137].text 過去有一個土豆
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transcript.whisperx[4138].text 在山基的時候有一個土豆
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transcript.whisperx[4139].text 土豆的地形不好
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transcript.whisperx[4140].text 那時候陳吉仲主委
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transcript.whisperx[4141].text 他有發到
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transcript.whisperx[4142].text 在這裡發40塊的保價
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transcript.whisperx[4143].text 收購
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transcript.whisperx[4144].text 一直發40塊的保價收購
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transcript.whisperx[4145].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4146].text 今天我們政府量那麼大
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transcript.whisperx[4147].text 進捷的運氣又那麼大
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transcript.whisperx[4148].text 那麼多
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transcript.whisperx[4149].text 剛好多人走開
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transcript.whisperx[4150].text 結果我們幫助農民
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transcript.whisperx[4151].text 不是交接收購
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transcript.whisperx[4152].text 我們是用另外一種進捷
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transcript.whisperx[4153].text 我給委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4154].text 你說的土豆
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transcript.whisperx[4155].text 你有沒有發現
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transcript.whisperx[4156].text 當然我會說
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transcript.whisperx[4157].text 因為你說的我來說
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transcript.whisperx[4158].text 108年發生的收購
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transcript.whisperx[4159].text 變成發生之亂
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transcript.whisperx[4160].text 變成說政府在收購的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4161].text 有土港
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transcript.whisperx[4162].text 有已經發霉的花生
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transcript.whisperx[4163].text 所以用保價收購是退補的相當
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transcript.whisperx[4164].text 我現在說這是過去
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transcript.whisperx[4165].text 人有這樣做過
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transcript.whisperx[4166].text 所以你不希望交接收購
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transcript.whisperx[4167].text 我尊重
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transcript.whisperx[4168].text 我尊重我的希望
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transcript.whisperx[4169].text 你也要想一個進捷
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transcript.whisperx[4170].text 來幫助農民
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transcript.whisperx[4171].text 還有其他的配套
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transcript.whisperx[4172].text 還有一項最重要
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transcript.whisperx[4173].text 我這幾天一直接到電話
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transcript.whisperx[4174].text 就是農民給我的
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transcript.whisperx[4175].text 如果要來收工
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transcript.whisperx[4176].text 絕對不可以
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transcript.whisperx[4178].text 是要直接到農民那裡
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transcript.whisperx[4179].text 不可以到高雄那裡
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transcript.whisperx[4180].text 直接我們可以比較
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transcript.whisperx[4181].text 這個天然災害古早
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transcript.whisperx[4182].text 依這個古傳祖的面積
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transcript.whisperx[4183].text 還是古傳祖的名稱
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transcript.whisperx[4184].text 我們直接到古早
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transcript.whisperx[4186].text 我給你報告
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transcript.whisperx[4187].text 我會判斷
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transcript.whisperx[4188].text 跟我的
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transcript.whisperx[4189].text 這個農民的風險
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transcript.whisperx[4190].text 就是讓農民
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transcript.whisperx[4191].text 可以繼續人的穩定
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transcript.whisperx[4192].text 接下來的問題不是說
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transcript.whisperx[4193].text 直接給錢給農民
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transcript.whisperx[4194].text 因為錢給農民就會變成
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transcript.whisperx[4195].text 之前的花生之亂
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transcript.whisperx[4196].text 所以我會用其他的方式來協助
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transcript.whisperx[4197].text 讓這個價格能夠穩定
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transcript.whisperx[4198].text 這個措施
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transcript.whisperx[4199].text 很快就會公佈
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transcript.whisperx[4200].text 這個很快就會公佈
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transcript.whisperx[4201].text 不是啊 你要大家討論喔
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transcript.whisperx[4202].text 不要亂亂亂的一個公告內
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transcript.whisperx[4203].text 跟他們去到整個市場大亂
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transcript.whisperx[4204].text 我給委員報告喔
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transcript.whisperx[4205].text 我們的該農場
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transcript.whisperx[4206].text 農民的分數
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transcript.whisperx[4207].text 包括我本身
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transcript.whisperx[4208].text 很多農民都跟我聯絡
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transcript.whisperx[4209].text 所以這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[4211].text 應該可以做一些價格穩定的措施
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transcript.whisperx[4212].text 好 這樣才正常
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transcript.whisperx[4213].text 如果這個方式最好
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transcript.whisperx[4214].text 可以讓我們知道
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transcript.whisperx[4215].text 我們會儘快公告
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transcript.whisperx[4216].text 好 才會
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transcript.whisperx[4217].text 我們農民的權利為我們借
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transcript.whisperx[4218].text 這樣好嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4219].text 我告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[4220].text 我已經叫過農民
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transcript.whisperx[4221].text 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[4222].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[4223].text 部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[4224].text 消費諮詢請賴會委員
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transcript.whisperx[4225].text 好 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4226].text 主席陳
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transcript.whisperx[4228].text 好 還有我們的畜牧師師長
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transcript.whisperx[4229].text 畜牧師師長
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transcript.whisperx[4230].text 兩位都是陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[4231].text 陳吉祭部長
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transcript.whisperx[4232].text 好 部長
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transcript.whisperx[4233].text 我想跟你探討一個天然氈害的補助金會
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transcript.whisperx[4234].text 確實是慢了半拍
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transcript.whisperx[4235].text 那這個慢了半拍
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transcript.whisperx[4236].text 我還特別再跟你提醒一下
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transcript.whisperx[4237].text 我的高粱的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4238].text 保險的一個補助
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transcript.whisperx[4239].text 這個因為
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transcript.whisperx[4240].text 現在也是有一些
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transcript.whisperx[4241].text 爭議性 那我希望可以加速
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transcript.whisperx[4242].text 那請部長撥點時間
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transcript.whisperx[4243].text 去了解一下
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transcript.whisperx[4244].text 然後再來針對的就是文旦
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transcript.whisperx[4245].text 文旦的那個
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transcript.whisperx[4246].text 那個今年開始到現在的那個結花
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transcript.whisperx[4247].text 那個
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transcript.whisperx[4248].text 其實是很不好
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transcript.whisperx[4249].text 就在我的選區裡頭也是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[4250].text 不管是在那個
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transcript.whisperx[4251].text 夏營還是那個其他的
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transcript.whisperx[4252].text 一個區域 因為這個受到
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transcript.whisperx[4253].text 那個去年七月的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4254].text 丹奈斯颱風的一個影響
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transcript.whisperx[4256].text 兩三年文旦的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4257].text 結花都不會有很好的
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transcript.whisperx[4258].text 效果 所以我覺得
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transcript.whisperx[4259].text 是要請部長
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transcript.whisperx[4260].text 先準備啟動
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transcript.whisperx[4261].text 這個天然那個
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transcript.whisperx[4262].text 本災害的一個救助
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transcript.whisperx[4263].text 你要先準備起來啦
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transcript.whisperx[4264].text 以上做這樣的調整
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transcript.whisperx[4265].text 國先生
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transcript.whisperx[4266].text 我先跟委員報告就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4267].text 文旦的保護分我們的高粱地方
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transcript.whisperx[4268].text 大家都可以去看
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transcript.whisperx[4269].text 現在開花看起來開到不太好
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transcript.whisperx[4270].text 文旦的花
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transcript.whisperx[4271].text 它花多沒用啦
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transcript.whisperx[4272].text 因為一歲裡面它掛了一六個到兩六個
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transcript.whisperx[4273].text 所以很關鍵的是說
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transcript.whisperx[4274].text 它的落果不夠
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transcript.whisperx[4275].text 跟它的結果率啦 所以這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[4276].text 我們的高粱地方會每個禮拜會去看
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transcript.whisperx[4277].text 那如果說有必要
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transcript.whisperx[4278].text 會達到一個天然災害的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4279].text 落果跟結果率都不好啦
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transcript.whisperx[4280].text 現在還要
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transcript.whisperx[4281].text 還要那種
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transcript.whisperx[4282].text 它會生理落果
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transcript.whisperx[4283].text 那生理落果是自然的落果
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transcript.whisperx[4284].text 所以一定要等到它真的結束了以後
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transcript.whisperx[4285].text 跟你提醒喔
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transcript.whisperx[4286].text 我跟你講這個
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transcript.whisperx[4287].text 這個很現實的就是受到
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transcript.whisperx[4288].text 丹麥斯颱風的一個影響
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transcript.whisperx[4289].text 這個是一個經驗法則
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transcript.whisperx[4290].text 大家不用爭執啦
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transcript.whisperx[4291].text 那反正你就是把這個事情列為
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transcript.whisperx[4292].text 很重要的一個事情
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transcript.whisperx[4293].text 還有就是說今年底是選舉年
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transcript.whisperx[4294].text 所有就是本席的
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transcript.whisperx[4295].text 選區裡頭的這個
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transcript.whisperx[4296].text 龍水路 當然我要謝謝龍水署
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transcript.whisperx[4297].text 也全力的一個幫忙
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transcript.whisperx[4298].text 那我看到的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4299].text 中段呢
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transcript.whisperx[4300].text 多年的這個營加南最關鍵的
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transcript.whisperx[4301].text 水利工程
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transcript.whisperx[4302].text 那個卓幹縣跟北幹縣的
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transcript.whisperx[4303].text 串接的一個計畫
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transcript.whisperx[4304].text 其實在3月3號
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transcript.whisperx[4305].text 已經正式通水了
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transcript.whisperx[4306].text 那這個其實對我們
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transcript.whisperx[4307].text 農業來講是非常
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transcript.whisperx[4308].text 非常值得一個
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transcript.whisperx[4309].text 那個慶幸的一個真的是一個大事
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transcript.whisperx[4310].text 可是在這一些
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transcript.whisperx[4311].text 水源裡頭 不管是北水
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transcript.whisperx[4312].text 南印還是南水北印的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4313].text 互相交流的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[4314].text 其實用在農業的用水
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transcript.whisperx[4315].text 我覺得是有限的 倒是
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transcript.whisperx[4316].text 這個所有的工業用水
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transcript.whisperx[4317].text 我們知道他是迫切
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transcript.whisperx[4318].text 需要的 所以我就說
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transcript.whisperx[4319].text 不要犧牲掉農民
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transcript.whisperx[4320].text 成就了工業
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transcript.whisperx[4321].text 這個是我要跟部長
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transcript.whisperx[4322].text 你做一個提醒的
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transcript.whisperx[4323].text 謝謝委員的提醒喔 那我想
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transcript.whisperx[4324].text 以農業部的立場我們一定會確保
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transcript.whisperx[4325].text 農業的用水能夠滿足
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transcript.whisperx[4326].text 我們農業所需
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transcript.whisperx[4327].text 那你問他你農業用水會是優先嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4328].text 我想一向在整個的
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transcript.whisperx[4329].text 整個的一個政策考慮上
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transcript.whisperx[4330].text 一定是農業用水一定優先於
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transcript.whisperx[4331].text 工業用水 好 部長
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transcript.whisperx[4332].text 農業用水優先於
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transcript.whisperx[4333].text 工業用水 好 這是部長講的
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transcript.whisperx[4334].text 一向的政策就是這樣子 好 來部長
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transcript.whisperx[4335].text 整體我國的農業每年的總值
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transcript.whisperx[4336].text 大概接近5850億
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transcript.whisperx[4337].text 畜牧的總值
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transcript.whisperx[4338].text 大概是2160億
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transcript.whisperx[4339].text 這個占農業的總產值
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transcript.whisperx[4340].text 大概是34.5%
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transcript.whisperx[4341].text 其中養豬是高達850億
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transcript.whisperx[4342].text 然後養雞是597億
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transcript.whisperx[4343].text 這個排前兩名
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transcript.whisperx[4344].text 所有的畜牧產業
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transcript.whisperx[4345].text 貢獻非常大
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transcript.whisperx[4346].text 可是如果我們從
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transcript.whisperx[4347].text 獨立的二級機構來看的話
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transcript.whisperx[4348].text 農糧署和農業
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transcript.whisperx[4349].text 保育署還有我們的
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transcript.whisperx[4350].text 儀業署還有我們的畜牧
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transcript.whisperx[4351].text 畜牧師
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transcript.whisperx[4352].text 他們所有正式的編制人員
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transcript.whisperx[4353].text 一個是626
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transcript.whisperx[4354].text 一個是1323
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transcript.whisperx[4355].text 然後儀業署是
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transcript.whisperx[4356].text 226
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transcript.whisperx[4357].text 然後畜牧
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transcript.whisperx[4358].text 畜牧這個
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transcript.whisperx[4359].text 畜牧師34個
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transcript.whisperx[4360].text 你就從這幾個數字裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[4361].text 你有沒有看到了就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4362].text 畜牧師人數
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transcript.whisperx[4363].text 人力的嚴重不足
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transcript.whisperx[4364].text 可是他還是一樣要服務
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transcript.whisperx[4365].text 各地的一個畜牧業者
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transcript.whisperx[4366].text 你知道畜牧師
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transcript.whisperx[4367].text 是所有在你的農業部裡頭
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transcript.whisperx[4368].text 這個師
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transcript.whisperx[4369].text 最適合萬年久的
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transcript.whisperx[4370].text 你知道為什麼嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4371].text 因為他們人最少
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transcript.whisperx[4372].text 人最少每一次到了
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transcript.whisperx[4373].text 會勘的時間的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4374].text 他常常都是在
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transcript.whisperx[4375].text 這個用餐的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4376].text 那個就是
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transcript.whisperx[4377].text 超過了用餐的時間了
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transcript.whisperx[4378].text 因為人力太少了
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transcript.whisperx[4379].text 我們常常需要等到他們等到7點以後8點以後
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transcript.whisperx[4380].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4381].text 人力編制不足
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transcript.whisperx[4382].text 我們必須要去體諒說他從嘉義縣
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transcript.whisperx[4383].text 再趕過來我們台南這一邊
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transcript.whisperx[4384].text 部長今天跟你討論了就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4385].text 他的行政管理跟他的產業
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transcript.whisperx[4386].text 輔導他一眼都沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[4387].text 做這麼多的事啊
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transcript.whisperx[4388].text 他光是農業上的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4389].text 栽損的話他就往往
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transcript.whisperx[4390].text 就是本分的事情就做不完了
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transcript.whisperx[4391].text 我只是要告訴你說
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transcript.whisperx[4392].text 我第一個我非常感謝
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transcript.whisperx[4393].text 委員就是有關切到這個議題
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transcript.whisperx[4394].text 這個議題其實在我上任以後
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transcript.whisperx[4395].text 我也發現到很大的差異性
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transcript.whisperx[4396].text 但是三級單位
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transcript.whisperx[4397].text 現在已經滿了全台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[4398].text 但是我們還是持續
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transcript.whisperx[4399].text 部長我跟你講現在
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transcript.whisperx[4400].text 兒家屬在做
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transcript.whisperx[4401].text 調整是不是一併把
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transcript.whisperx[4402].text 畜牧師納進來
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transcript.whisperx[4403].text 你要去找人事總長來講
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transcript.whisperx[4404].text 我每天都會上去
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transcript.whisperx[4405].text 好這樣我告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[4406].text 我們做回來炒
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transcript.whisperx[4407].text 委員針對花卉創新中心
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transcript.whisperx[4408].text 有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[4409].text 有你們的努力就會成功
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transcript.whisperx[4410].text 拜託委員我們也可以集氣
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transcript.whisperx[4411].text 部長做我的後三
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transcript.whisperx[4412].text 我的靠三
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transcript.whisperx[4413].text 我還感謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[4414].text 看到這個議題然後我們相關的資料
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transcript.whisperx[4415].text 我們一定會一起來努力
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transcript.whisperx[4416].text 謝謝部長謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4417].text 謝謝賴委員
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transcript.whisperx[4418].text 部長行為組主席這邊
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transcript.whisperx[4419].text 今天宣告我們今天會議中午不休息
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transcript.whisperx[4420].text 延長開會時間
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transcript.whisperx[4421].text 到議程處理完畢
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transcript.whisperx[4422].text 下一位資訊請蔡育委員
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transcript.whisperx[4423].text 好謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4425].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[4427].text 也就是上個禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[4428].text 那在這個
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transcript.whisperx[4430].text 就是把左幹線
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transcript.whisperx[4432].text 那這個是在
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transcript.whisperx[4434].text 那透過前三七組建設計畫
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transcript.whisperx[4435].text 然後去做這樣的接管工程
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transcript.whisperx[4436].text 那除了接管之外
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transcript.whisperx[4437].text 事實上也增加了很多
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transcript.whisperx[4438].text 就是沿線的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4442].text 有水沒口
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transcript.whisperx[4444].text 叫做有口沒水
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transcript.whisperx[4448].text 可以彼此的流用
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transcript.whisperx[4449].text 互相支援
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transcript.whisperx[4450].text 這可以說是自從
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transcript.whisperx[4455].text 你有怎樣的一些
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transcript.whisperx[4456].text 自我的期許對未來
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transcript.whisperx[4457].text 怎樣來協助農民
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transcript.whisperx[4458].text 來擴大他們的灌溉系統
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transcript.whisperx[4459].text 為了報告
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transcript.whisperx[4460].text 這幾年來天然災害的頻傳
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transcript.whisperx[4461].text 特別是極端天候
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transcript.whisperx[4462].text 常常沒水
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transcript.whisperx[4465].text 這個工程很重要的就是
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transcript.whisperx[4466].text 一些大
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transcript.whisperx[4471].text 所以我想這個工程
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transcript.whisperx[4472].text 其實當作一個典範
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transcript.whisperx[4473].text 那後續我也要求農業水利署
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transcript.whisperx[4474].text 在其他的主要的灌溉
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transcript.whisperx[4477].text 這些調度的一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[4478].text 所以這個叫珍珠串計畫
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transcript.whisperx[4479].text 感謝政院委員
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transcript.whisperx[4480].text 如果是珍珠串機器
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transcript.whisperx[4481].text 這案子真的
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transcript.whisperx[4482].text 對未來的幫助會很大
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transcript.whisperx[4483].text 但是也因為這一案
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transcript.whisperx[4484].text 然後再對應今年
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transcript.whisperx[4485].text 因為部長現在都有一些警覺
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transcript.whisperx[4486].text 現在三萬水口
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transcript.whisperx[4487].text 現在三位而已
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transcript.whisperx[4489].text 40幾而已
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transcript.whisperx[4490].text 所以水量少
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transcript.whisperx[4491].text 到目前為止整個冬天
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transcript.whisperx[4492].text 就從去年的0728
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transcript.whisperx[4493].text 一直到現在
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transcript.whisperx[4495].text 所以大概是一個非常
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transcript.whisperx[4497].text 這樣子一個嚴重的冬瀚
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transcript.whisperx[4499].text 後面就要靠風台的雨
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transcript.whisperx[4500].text 梅雨都沒有順的
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transcript.whisperx[4504].text 是你現在要開始要注意的
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transcript.whisperx[4505].text 感謝委員的提醒
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transcript.whisperx[4506].text 從我們二月三月開始
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transcript.whisperx[4507].text 我們跟經濟部水利署就成立一個應面小組
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transcript.whisperx[4509].text 高屏地區 雲嘉南地區
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transcript.whisperx[4510].text 本身我們也啟動了非常多的
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transcript.whisperx[4511].text 抗岸水井
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transcript.whisperx[4512].text 抗岸車的準備
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transcript.whisperx[4513].text 一些區排本身怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[4514].text 再利用的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4515].text 我們有多元的抗岸的一個作為
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transcript.whisperx[4516].text 我們現在已經準備在等了
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transcript.whisperx[4517].text 特別是一些玻璃屋
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transcript.whisperx[4518].text 它沒有灌溉水源
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transcript.whisperx[4519].text 扣天下雨的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4520].text 可能更多的這些水資源
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transcript.whisperx[4521].text 要提供才能夠讓果樹
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transcript.whisperx[4522].text 順利的開發結果
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transcript.whisperx[4523].text 所以部長就是
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transcript.whisperx[4524].text 我也是跟你剛才說的
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transcript.whisperx[4525].text 因為整個冬天都沒有水
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transcript.whisperx[4526].text 所以現在很多山區
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transcript.whisperx[4527].text 我們在那邊種春茶的
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transcript.whisperx[4530].text 所以今年的春茶的一個產量
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transcript.whisperx[4531].text 大概會受到很大的傷害
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transcript.whisperx[4532].text 甚至可能會
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transcript.whisperx[4534].text 所以這點也是覺得部長是不是
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transcript.whisperx[4536].text 尤其是我們嘉義這邊
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transcript.whisperx[4537].text 大阿里山區的茶區
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transcript.whisperx[4538].text 是不是要去關心一下
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transcript.whisperx[4540].text 特別我們茶海場本身跟農糧署
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transcript.whisperx[4542].text 如果有些山上電到沒風
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transcript.whisperx[4546].text 可能真的要協助
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transcript.whisperx[4547].text 再來就是
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transcript.whisperx[4549].text 也沒有起來
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transcript.whisperx[4550].text 我一直持續在關心的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4551].text 我們現在未來
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transcript.whisperx[4552].text 因為我們現在台灣的茶葉
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transcript.whisperx[4553].text 大概海拔都在
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transcript.whisperx[4554].text 我們的這些試驗站
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transcript.whisperx[4555].text 都是低海拔的
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transcript.whisperx[4556].text 所以我們現在台灣
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transcript.whisperx[4557].text 就是少了一個高海拔的
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transcript.whisperx[4559].text 那過去在梅山
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transcript.whisperx[4560].text 我們有規劃了這個試驗站
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transcript.whisperx[4561].text 那後來說他的第四的一個
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transcript.whisperx[4563].text 那我們也願意去盤整
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transcript.whisperx[4564].text 新的一個地點然後來做
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transcript.whisperx[4565].text 未來的試驗站那大概現在
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transcript.whisperx[4566].text 有幾個方向可能是放在
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transcript.whisperx[4567].text 學校的一個校園
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transcript.whisperx[4568].text 或者是過去的一些衛生所
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transcript.whisperx[4569].text 我知道說
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transcript.whisperx[4571].text 有約要去限定
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transcript.whisperx[4573].text 沒有土質
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transcript.whisperx[4574].text 就是說之前的狀況的話
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transcript.whisperx[4575].text 部長你會支持我們這樣的一個試驗站
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transcript.whisperx[4577].text 我覺得一定要支持喔因為高山茶
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transcript.whisperx[4581].text 因為地質的關係沒有辦法在那邊
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transcript.whisperx[4588].text 去走好所以你說三月底
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transcript.whisperx[4590].text 時間也是要換的就準備兩次
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transcript.whisperx[4591].text 這一兩個禮拜就會上去看
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transcript.whisperx[4600].text 一定全力配合啦
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transcript.whisperx[4608].text 很重要那第二個就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4615].text 直接來執行就沒有像
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transcript.whisperx[4622].text 那現在看起來就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4628].text 也支持我們因為你這個
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transcript.whisperx[4629].text 罵拼市長我們過去為了執行
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transcript.whisperx[4631].text 他打不中就被打到
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transcript.whisperx[4635].text 這一個預算要把他補足
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transcript.whisperx[4637].text 我跟委員報告就是
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transcript.whisperx[4639].text 的時候我特別把這個
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transcript.whisperx[4645].text 的一個審議那經費
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transcript.whisperx[4646].text 應該會如這邊所列
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transcript.whisperx[4653].text 這個東西能夠儘快的能夠
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transcript.whisperx[4661].text 因為你
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transcript.whisperx[4662].text 把以前的拍賣長拆除
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transcript.whisperx[4663].text 涉及到很多人被支遣
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transcript.whisperx[4664].text 那後來因為又有政策的一些
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transcript.whisperx[4665].text 調整跟討論這沒有關係
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transcript.whisperx[4666].text 政策難免說是越討論越精進
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transcript.whisperx[4667].text 不然就畢竟我們這些動作
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transcript.whisperx[4668].text 做在前面造成這些人
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transcript.whisperx[4669].text 他的工作權也被支遣了
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transcript.whisperx[4670].text 所以我還是希望我們快啦
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transcript.whisperx[4671].text 既然希望未來由
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transcript.whisperx[4672].text 縣政府來執行整個
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transcript.whisperx[4673].text 這個肉品市場的一個開發興建
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transcript.whisperx[4674].text 我們也是會快
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transcript.whisperx[4675].text 我們現在就是說預算要到位
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transcript.whisperx[4676].text 我們才能一次就
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transcript.whisperx[4677].text 硬體跟裡面的一些設備
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transcript.whisperx[4678].text 軟體馬上一次到位
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transcript.whisperx[4679].text 不然不要未來又有這些
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transcript.whisperx[4680].text 要軟硬體要對接的問題
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transcript.whisperx[4681].text 這個對我們來說很重要
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transcript.whisperx[4682].text 對這個我想我們或許會傾向
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transcript.whisperx[4683].text 或許會傾向於一次核定分歧施工
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transcript.whisperx[4684].text 對這樣的方式
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transcript.whisperx[4685].text 會讓整體的規劃更完善
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transcript.whisperx[4686].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[4687].text 這幾案都真的要拜託
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transcript.whisperx[4688].text 好不好謝謝部長
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transcript.whisperx[4690].text 部長請回座
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transcript.whisperx[4691].text 下一位資訊委員請王宏威
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transcript.whisperx[4692].text 好謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[4694].text 還有我們的漁業署署長
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transcript.whisperx[4695].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[4696].text 部長署長
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transcript.whisperx[4698].text 媒體有一個做一個報導
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transcript.whisperx[4699].text 而且很多學者非常關心的
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transcript.whisperx[4700].text 就是我們魚電共生的政策
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transcript.whisperx[4701].text 所以我們魚電共生
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transcript.whisperx[4702].text 現在要準備
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transcript.whisperx[4703].text 大轉彎
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transcript.whisperx[4706].text 這個大概引起了
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transcript.whisperx[4710].text 就發了一個新聞稿
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transcript.whisperx[4711].text 說現在
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transcript.whisperx[4713].text 但是相關草案
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transcript.whisperx[4714].text 尚在政策研議溝通階段
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transcript.whisperx[4715].text 好所以我想請問
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transcript.whisperx[4717].text 到底
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transcript.whisperx[4718].text 有沒有可能改變
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transcript.whisperx[4719].text 或者轉彎的情形
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transcript.whisperx[4720].text 第一個謝謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[4722].text 我在這邊非常
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transcript.whisperx[4723].text 認真的嚴肅的跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4728].text 光電的業者去養魚
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transcript.whisperx[4729].text 那我們希望說
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transcript.whisperx[4730].text 在整個執行面是
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transcript.whisperx[4732].text 那第二個部分是
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transcript.whisperx[4734].text 還沒有起
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transcript.whisperx[4737].text 利害關係人的一個溝通
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transcript.whisperx[4739].text 這個政策只是多一項選擇
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transcript.whisperx[4741].text 並不會把
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transcript.whisperx[4742].text 現在的制度
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transcript.whisperx[4745].text 光電的案場能夠讓
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transcript.whisperx[4746].text 魚池本身的
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transcript.whisperx[4748].text 因為現在很多不合法
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transcript.whisperx[4749].text 不合規的都這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[4752].text 為什麼大家
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transcript.whisperx[4754].text 就是確實在你們農業部的
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transcript.whisperx[4771].text 所以外界的質疑就是
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transcript.whisperx[4792].text 提到了一個
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transcript.whisperx[4793].text 光電資金並沒有義務去提升
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transcript.whisperx[4797].text 漁電工商強調
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transcript.whisperx[4798].text 光電產業要帶入資金
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transcript.whisperx[4799].text 跟技術來促進養殖業升級
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transcript.whisperx[4800].text 那現在呢
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transcript.whisperx[4801].text 又把它整個脫鉤了
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transcript.whisperx[4802].text 光電業者只管電
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transcript.whisperx[4803].text 然後不用去管這個漁業
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transcript.whisperx[4804].text 所以你這個資金沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[4805].text 促進養殖業的升級
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transcript.whisperx[4806].text 跟你過去的政策
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transcript.whisperx[4807].text 又背道而馳
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transcript.whisperx[4808].text 這樣的一個方向
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transcript.whisperx[4809].text 會被外界認為你們過於
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transcript.whisperx[4810].text 偏向了光電業者
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transcript.whisperx[4811].text 好像要奉升
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transcript.whisperx[4812].text 養殖業者
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transcript.whisperx[4813].text 所以在這個部分你們未來
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transcript.whisperx[4814].text 你說是在評估階段
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transcript.whisperx[4815].text 研究階段是不是可以
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transcript.whisperx[4816].text 特別注意外界的這些質疑
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transcript.whisperx[4817].text 提醒喔 第一個部分就是
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transcript.whisperx[4818].text 以我的立場我們一定要確保
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transcript.whisperx[4819].text 養殖的經營為本
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transcript.whisperx[4820].text 這個事情我覺得不會變
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transcript.whisperx[4821].text 那剛才講的我們副署長
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transcript.whisperx[4822].text 講這句話 我不知道他有沒有講這句話
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transcript.whisperx[4823].text 如果真正的是他講的是不對的
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transcript.whisperx[4824].text 我覺得他是一個錯誤的
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transcript.whisperx[4825].text 訊息傳遞 這個後續我會來處理
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transcript.whisperx[4826].text 看他真的講什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4827].text 第三個部分就是
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transcript.whisperx[4828].text 光電協會來做一些審查
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transcript.whisperx[4829].text 他只是做一個參考
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transcript.whisperx[4830].text 因為有很多光電協會
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transcript.whisperx[4831].text 他本身不知道他的
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transcript.whisperx[4832].text 會員裡面有一些亂蓋的情形
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transcript.whisperx[4834].text 來看他的會員裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4835].text 如果是亂蓋的時候他自己就要
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transcript.whisperx[4836].text 打臉他自己 所以我
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transcript.whisperx[4837].text 導入光電協會來審查
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transcript.whisperx[4838].text 他不是做審查權的
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transcript.whisperx[4839].text 確認 是讓他們知道
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transcript.whisperx[4840].text 這每一個案場他們光電
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transcript.whisperx[4841].text 協會看得過去還是看不過去
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transcript.whisperx[4842].text 所以我最重要就是
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transcript.whisperx[4843].text 讓這個養殖魚池的光電板
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transcript.whisperx[4844].text 能夠不會影響到
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transcript.whisperx[4845].text 我的魚的作業
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transcript.whisperx[4846].text 因為現在很多光電板壓得太低
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transcript.whisperx[4847].text 沒錯 所以我才會讓
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transcript.whisperx[4848].text 光電業者來他們自己看
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transcript.whisperx[4849].text 所以我們用這樣的方式
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transcript.whisperx[4850].text 是希望說整個
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transcript.whisperx[4851].text 光電案場在規劃的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4852].text 就能夠考慮到養殖的
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transcript.whisperx[4853].text 以後的經營
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transcript.whisperx[4854].text 我希望部長和
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transcript.whisperx[4855].text 漁業署未來在設定
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transcript.whisperx[4856].text 整個政策或調整的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4857].text 我剛特別講的
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transcript.whisperx[4859].text 他在審查過程中
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transcript.whisperx[4860].text 他沒有發言權
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transcript.whisperx[4861].text 但是他卻要去付資
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transcript.whisperx[4862].text 第二個光電業者帶來的資金
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transcript.whisperx[4863].text 他還是要去扶植
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transcript.whisperx[4865].text 不要完全的讓他們
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transcript.whisperx[4866].text 變成
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transcript.whisperx[4867].text 脫鉤 這一點政策
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transcript.whisperx[4868].text 是要符合你們當年
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transcript.whisperx[4869].text 你們當年魚店共生的一個政策方向
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transcript.whisperx[4870].text 謝謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[4871].text 謝謝王委員
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transcript.whisperx[4872].text 來 部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[4873].text 下位置請蘇青監委
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transcript.whisperx[4874].text 好 謝謝主席 我請部長
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transcript.whisperx[4875].text 許牧師
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transcript.whisperx[4876].text 許牧師 市長
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transcript.whisperx[4877].text 委員好 部長
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transcript.whisperx[4878].text 長 總質詢
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transcript.whisperx[4879].text 我們李一林委員有問
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transcript.whisperx[4880].text 這個非洲那個
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transcript.whisperx[4881].text 黑地的事情
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transcript.whisperx[4883].text 因為我時間有限
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transcript.whisperx[4884].text 你現在說
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transcript.whisperx[4885].text 他們合作希望
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transcript.whisperx[4886].text 可以保留那些珍珠設備
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transcript.whisperx[4887].text 在他們的場子裡面
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transcript.whisperx[4888].text 你希望他們都聽到
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transcript.whisperx[4889].text 你用說的
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transcript.whisperx[4890].text 北中南用大型的珍珠
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transcript.whisperx[4891].text 大型的珍珠你現在敢
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transcript.whisperx[4892].text 我
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transcript.whisperx[4893].text 我告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[4894].text 未來的這些不管是廚餘
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transcript.whisperx[4895].text 或是下假料的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4896].text 它不是純粹只是珍珠就去餵豬
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transcript.whisperx[4897].text 我希望它變成一個循環再利用的
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transcript.whisperx[4898].text 飼料 因為要有規格
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transcript.whisperx[4899].text 要有品規後面的市場才會做得起來
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transcript.whisperx[4900].text 所以不是純粹
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transcript.whisperx[4901].text 用珍珠的方式
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transcript.whisperx[4902].text 第二個就是說我們場域
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transcript.whisperx[4903].text 如果讓它保留的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4904].text 那相對的你一旦保留的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4905].text 以後就有可能有風險
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transcript.whisperx[4906].text 特別是珍珠的地方
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transcript.whisperx[4907].text 你要收廚餘很容易收
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transcript.whisperx[4908].text 那你如果有珍珠設備的時候
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transcript.whisperx[4909].text 那時候會讓我們的非洲豬瘟
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transcript.whisperx[4910].text 可能更能控制
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transcript.whisperx[4912].text 至少超過70億左右
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transcript.whisperx[4913].text 那如果說減農民
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transcript.whisperx[4914].text 他違反了遊戲規則
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transcript.whisperx[4915].text 他不是只是他受害而已
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transcript.whisperx[4916].text 是整個產業受害
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transcript.whisperx[4918].text 我們OD都在冰凍那裡
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transcript.whisperx[4919].text 是那裡豬瘟要起菜
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transcript.whisperx[4920].text 現在這裡的珍珠豬瘟
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transcript.whisperx[4921].text 這些都做不下去
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transcript.whisperx[4922].text 你要求
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transcript.whisperx[4923].text 市長是跟阿展前一段說
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transcript.whisperx[4924].text 柏頓你要宣示一下
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transcript.whisperx[4925].text 你到底是要把這些OD幹掉
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transcript.whisperx[4926].text 叫人家不要養了
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transcript.whisperx[4927].text 還是 還是 還是要保留這些
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transcript.whisperx[4928].text 好了
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transcript.whisperx[4929].text 這個品種
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transcript.whisperx[4930].text 跟世界 跟
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transcript.whisperx[4931].text 北立半島的
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transcript.whisperx[4932].text 世界精三明的
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transcript.whisperx[4933].text 你的心態是怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[4934].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[4935].text 就是農業部的立場就是說
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transcript.whisperx[4936].text 黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4937].text 黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4940].text 黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4941].text 黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4942].text 黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4943].text 整個的一個養成
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transcript.whisperx[4944].text 它可以有更好的效率
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transcript.whisperx[4945].text 不管我們的土黑豬
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transcript.whisperx[4946].text 我們的大黑豬 有沒有跟我們的
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transcript.whisperx[4947].text 去世所的黑豬
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transcript.whisperx[4948].text 都是D啦 都是OD啦
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transcript.whisperx[4949].text 那我們也跟
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transcript.whisperx[4950].text 那個養黑豬的產業來
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transcript.whisperx[4951].text 說 他們說希望做一些品種改良
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transcript.whisperx[4952].text 因為D本身是二系或
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transcript.whisperx[4953].text 三系雜交的部分
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transcript.whisperx[4954].text 所以我們一定會讓黑豬產業
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transcript.whisperx[4955].text 繼續維持著 但是
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transcript.whisperx[4956].text 它的飼料化的成本能夠
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transcript.whisperx[4957].text 降低 不像白豬一樣
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transcript.whisperx[4958].text 那它的養成率也不要拖到
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transcript.whisperx[4959].text 一年多或一年半
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transcript.whisperx[4960].text 能夠再縮短 那這個部分我們已經成立了
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transcript.whisperx[4961].text 輔導團隊下去處理
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transcript.whisperx[4962].text 那不就把生長期
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transcript.whisperx[4964].text 你意思是這樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[4965].text 我們的飼料配方
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transcript.whisperx[4966].text 有這個機會啦 然後另外
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transcript.whisperx[4967].text 透過品種的引進 你剛才說的
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transcript.whisperx[4968].text 一些品種的引進跟我們的土黑豬做雜交的
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transcript.whisperx[4969].text 後代 那這個有機會
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transcript.whisperx[4970].text 讓它的換肉率會提高
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transcript.whisperx[4971].text 所以現在是
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transcript.whisperx[4972].text 15到16個月是太長了
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transcript.whisperx[4973].text 太長啦 周轉率有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[4974].text 它的產業周轉率也很高
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transcript.whisperx[4975].text 所以做到一年多 你們有
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transcript.whisperx[4976].text 這個行業要再保留
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transcript.whisperx[4977].text 要再加強
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transcript.whisperx[4978].text 要再用飼料的配方
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transcript.whisperx[4979].text 你如果這種
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transcript.whisperx[4980].text 這樣的話 那我可以
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transcript.whisperx[4981].text 跟他們講說 政府不會給我們放棄
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transcript.whisperx[4982].text 政府不會給你放棄 會給你放屎
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transcript.whisperx[4983].text 不會 我們政府
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transcript.whisperx[4984].text 我已經成立一個黑豬的
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transcript.whisperx[4985].text 輔導團隊喔
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transcript.whisperx[4986].text 包括我們的敘事所 我們的改良場
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transcript.whisperx[4987].text 我們的那個什麼 那個學校
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transcript.whisperx[4988].text 單位都進來輔導
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transcript.whisperx[4989].text 市長你之前跟我說四月份
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transcript.whisperx[4990].text 會有結論出來 四月份
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transcript.whisperx[4995].text 不然人家都會怕
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transcript.whisperx[5001].text 所以最近慢慢有一些成果
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transcript.whisperx[5002].text 會顯現出來 到時候再跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[5004].text 就是說我們黑毛豬輔導團隊
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transcript.whisperx[5005].text 第一的品種改良
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transcript.whisperx[5007].text 第三的更重要就是說
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transcript.whisperx[5008].text 我要去建立一個黑毛豬的品牌
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transcript.whisperx[5009].text 這個品牌讓它的價格
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transcript.whisperx[5011].text 部長你這樣宣示我們就放心了
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transcript.whisperx[5013].text 非洲豬瘟疫病毒是DNA嘛
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transcript.whisperx[5014].text 阿菲亞病毒是酸苦
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transcript.whisperx[5015].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[5016].text 80度 100度它會死
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transcript.whisperx[5017].text 你如果我環境部
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transcript.whisperx[5018].text 也在講 你現在這個家庭
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transcript.whisperx[5019].text 你家裡拿去
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transcript.whisperx[5020].text 有水有什麼就放在
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transcript.whisperx[5021].text 焚化爐 焚化爐滴滴滴
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transcript.whisperx[5022].text 滴到水裡它用汙水處理
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transcript.whisperx[5023].text 處理就排放出來
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transcript.whisperx[5024].text 汙水處理你要用
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transcript.whisperx[5025].text 細菌分解
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transcript.whisperx[5026].text 接近60度
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transcript.whisperx[5027].text 你去發酵
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transcript.whisperx[5028].text 也差不多60度 病毒不會死
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transcript.whisperx[5029].text 不會死的 現在要拿水去
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transcript.whisperx[5030].text 它像是病毒 如果用汙水處理
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transcript.whisperx[5031].text 陰氣之後就一直流
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transcript.whisperx[5032].text 一直流 流到北地
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transcript.whisperx[5033].text 到時連北地都敲了
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transcript.whisperx[5034].text 所以一定要
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transcript.whisperx[5036].text 我告訴你
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transcript.whisperx[5037].text 你這樣說
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transcript.whisperx[5038].text 我們台灣不是說
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transcript.whisperx[5039].text 都有非洲豬瘟 是我們地中沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5040].text 我們現在是全境內
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transcript.whisperx[5041].text 包括廚餘 我們在邊境管制也很嚴格
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transcript.whisperx[5042].text 所以我們一定會確保
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transcript.whisperx[5043].text 我們的養豬場跟它的
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transcript.whisperx[5044].text 生物安全 這部分我先
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transcript.whisperx[5045].text 跟環境部來做
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transcript.whisperx[5046].text 討論
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transcript.whisperx[5047].text 現在風要再來
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transcript.whisperx[5048].text 你前面給我答應
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transcript.whisperx[5049].text 現在補助
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transcript.whisperx[5050].text 可以用那些
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transcript.whisperx[5051].text 20%做標準
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transcript.whisperx[5053].text 我們一邊一定有提供
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transcript.whisperx[5054].text 特別說針對多年期
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transcript.whisperx[5055].text 多年期的作物
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transcript.whisperx[5056].text 我們還會第二次
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transcript.whisperx[5057].text 第一次補助第二次就沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5058].text 我們第二次還有加碼補助
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transcript.whisperx[5059].text 我們已經預告了
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transcript.whisperx[5060].text 好 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[5061].text 你一句就十句
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transcript.whisperx[5062].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5063].text 下一支請郭一群委員
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transcript.whisperx[5064].text 好 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[5065].text 有請部長
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transcript.whisperx[5066].text 部長早安
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transcript.whisperx[5067].text 我想前一陣子到現在
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transcript.whisperx[5068].text 其實社會有點不安的
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transcript.whisperx[5069].text 這樣子的一個情緒
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transcript.whisperx[5070].text 其實在於虐待動物的事件
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transcript.whisperx[5071].text 其實不斷的頻傳
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transcript.whisperx[5072].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5073].text 我想從嘉義水上鄉的非法繁殖場
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transcript.whisperx[5074].text 我想在所有非法繁殖場的一些
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transcript.whisperx[5075].text 虐待動物的樣態多元
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transcript.whisperx[5076].text 這也是我們必須要耽誤自己
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transcript.whisperx[5077].text 要去解決的事情
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transcript.whisperx[5078].text 一直到所謂北港從五樓丟下來的狗
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transcript.whisperx[5079].text 還有在南港
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transcript.whisperx[5080].text 拖行好幾公尺的
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transcript.whisperx[5081].text 這樣子的一隻小黑
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transcript.whisperx[5082].text 一直到雲林
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transcript.whisperx[5083].text 六度飯案殺狗吃狗的無性男子
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transcript.whisperx[5084].text 另外
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transcript.whisperx[5085].text 另外就是在二月初的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5086].text 大家一直從彰化的深港
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transcript.whisperx[5087].text 一直在寫詢
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transcript.whisperx[5088].text 渡告權健康的一個案件
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transcript.whisperx[5089].text 甚至民間已經開始
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transcript.whisperx[5090].text 發起懸賞的這樣子的一個條件
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transcript.whisperx[5091].text 這懸賞的金額
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transcript.whisperx[5092].text 從民間開始發起
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transcript.whisperx[5093].text 已經到達了三十萬
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transcript.whisperx[5094].text 要來找這隻受虐的動物
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transcript.whisperx[5095].text 但是一直到三十八天之後
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transcript.whisperx[5096].text 其實他們非常遺憾的
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transcript.whisperx[5097].text 找到的是一具
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transcript.whisperx[5098].text 頭骨破裂的白骨
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transcript.whisperx[5099].text 那比對之後
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transcript.whisperx[5100].text 應該就是所謂的健康
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transcript.whisperx[5101].text 這是他的名字
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transcript.whisperx[5102].text 那我想從這個四主皇
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transcript.whisperx[5103].text 稱他送養到所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[5104].text 這個監視器畫面其實也有露到
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transcript.whisperx[5105].text 疑似他提了一個不明的
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transcript.whisperx[5106].text 一個袋子
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transcript.whisperx[5107].text 那似乎就是
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transcript.whisperx[5108].text 要把這個狗狗已經遇害的
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transcript.whisperx[5109].text 這樣子的一個屍體帶走
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transcript.whisperx[5110].text 但是呢大家對於
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transcript.whisperx[5111].text 所謂的弱勢動物受虐的
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transcript.whisperx[5112].text 這樣子的一個案件
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transcript.whisperx[5113].text 當務之急的就是
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transcript.whisperx[5114].text 要通報當地的
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transcript.whisperx[5115].text 這個不管是我們的動保處
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transcript.whisperx[5116].text 或者是我們的防疫所
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transcript.whisperx[5117].text 但是呢到最後這個
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transcript.whisperx[5118].text 彰化的動防所
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transcript.whisperx[5119].text 第一時間雖然是開罰了三萬
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transcript.whisperx[5120].text 是開罰了三萬
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transcript.whisperx[5122].text 其實是完全束手無策
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transcript.whisperx[5123].text 他們也不知道要從哪裡開始找起
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transcript.whisperx[5124].text 那最重要的一個原因就是動檢員
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transcript.whisperx[5125].text 他們沒有即時扣留動物跟強制
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transcript.whisperx[5126].text 進入私人場域的一個行政權
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transcript.whisperx[5127].text 這也就是這麼多年
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transcript.whisperx[5128].text 將近十幾年來大家
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transcript.whisperx[5130].text 也就是動保
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transcript.whisperx[5131].text 動保警察
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transcript.whisperx[5132].text 這樣子的一個編制
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transcript.whisperx[5133].text 民間一直不斷地在倡議
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transcript.whisperx[5134].text 所以我們脫了求其次說現在因為警政署
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transcript.whisperx[5135].text 內政部那個地方
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transcript.whisperx[5136].text 對於所謂的這樣子的一個人員的人力的不足
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transcript.whisperx[5137].text 所以我們脫了求其次
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transcript.whisperx[5138].text 在我們的動保法當中
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transcript.whisperx[5139].text 我們要賦予動檢員更多的執法的一些權利
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transcript.whisperx[5140].text 來解決這些當務之急
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transcript.whisperx[5141].text 但現在目前看起來
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transcript.whisperx[5142].text 請問全台灣的動檢員
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transcript.whisperx[5143].text 在各地不同的地方的動檢員
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transcript.whisperx[5144].text 請問是幾位
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transcript.whisperx[5145].text 三百不到
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transcript.whisperx[5146].text 358
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transcript.whisperx[5147].text 那我想這個358
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transcript.whisperx[5148].text 要處理這麼多不同的通報的一個案件
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transcript.whisperx[5149].text 雖然其實這個會上一個會期
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transcript.whisperx[5150].text 其實我們在1月26號
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transcript.whisperx[5151].text 其實原本是有機會
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transcript.whisperx[5152].text 要繼續往下審動保法
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transcript.whisperx[5153].text 那這個部分其實我們賦予動檢員
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transcript.whisperx[5154].text 更多的執法權利其實也寫在
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transcript.whisperx[5155].text 這個修法的版本當中
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transcript.whisperx[5156].text 那我個人也提出了我自己的版本
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transcript.whisperx[5157].text 那同時還有虐待動物的一個行度
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transcript.whisperx[5158].text 我們要把它繼續的往上拉高
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transcript.whisperx[5159].text 這些都是跨黨派的共識
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transcript.whisperx[5160].text 也是社會對大家的
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transcript.whisperx[5161].text 對這樣子的事件的期待
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transcript.whisperx[5162].text 但很可惜因為我們當天就卡住了
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transcript.whisperx[5163].text 那沒有辦法繼續往下走
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transcript.whisperx[5164].text 那很多人在講說
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transcript.whisperx[5165].text 目前的這個窘境就是
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transcript.whisperx[5166].text 第一線的動檢人員的人力的一個問題啦
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transcript.whisperx[5167].text 那我想當公職人員他們的人慾感不在
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transcript.whisperx[5168].text 如果只剩下所謂的血汗
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transcript.whisperx[5169].text 如果只剩下所謂的過勞
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transcript.whisperx[5170].text 請問誰還要入公職
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transcript.whisperx[5171].text 這也是我們在動檢員
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transcript.whisperx[5172].text 一直不斷的我們有開出去了
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transcript.whisperx[5173].text 但問題是我們現在招不滿
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transcript.whisperx[5174].text 那一直面臨到這樣子的一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[5175].text 我們有沒有一個確切的方法
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transcript.whisperx[5176].text 可以來解決
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transcript.whisperx[5177].text 第一個部分就是
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transcript.whisperx[5178].text 就像剛才委員所說的
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transcript.whisperx[5179].text 其實在有一些動保法
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transcript.whisperx[5180].text 在我們提到院裡的動保法
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transcript.whisperx[5181].text 已經有一些改進了
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transcript.whisperx[5182].text 那我希望說我們能夠秉持一些
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transcript.whisperx[5183].text 就是有特別有正義的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5184].text 我們先放一邊
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transcript.whisperx[5185].text 讓整個法能夠大家有共識的往前走
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transcript.whisperx[5186].text 這樣的話才有機會改善
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transcript.whisperx[5187].text 所以我想我們也會再跟
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transcript.whisperx[5188].text 召委這邊來協調看看
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transcript.whisperx[5189].text 可不可以繼續審這個
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transcript.whisperx[5190].text 然後在這個之前
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transcript.whisperx[5191].text 我想我會跟各位來溝通
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transcript.whisperx[5192].text 這樣的話包括動檢員的行政
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transcript.whisperx[5193].text 賦權的部分還有他相關的法則
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transcript.whisperx[5194].text 事主責任的部分都可以加強
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transcript.whisperx[5195].text 第二個部分我在考慮的是
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transcript.whisperx[5196].text 動檢員有沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[5197].text 從他的專業加級
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transcript.whisperx[5198].text 去做處理
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transcript.whisperx[5199].text 因為在部裡面我處理了
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transcript.whisperx[5200].text 非常多的專業加級的表的提升
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transcript.whisperx[5201].text 包括我們的房檢署
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transcript.whisperx[5202].text 本來是表二現在變成表十
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transcript.whisperx[5211].text 這個案例特別來講
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transcript.whisperx[5218].text 一直不斷的延遲
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transcript.whisperx[5219].text 這也是我們希望
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transcript.whisperx[5221].text 在接下來的這個會期
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transcript.whisperx[5226].text 下一位資源請張亞林委員
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transcript.whisperx[5229].text 我的那個呢
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transcript.whisperx[5230].text 請報平安
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transcript.whisperx[5231].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[5232].text 好 等我一下 找一下我的簡報品
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transcript.whisperx[5233].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[5242].text 這應該是讓大家可以充分討論
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transcript.whisperx[5246].text 這邊也要請召委拜託
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transcript.whisperx[5247].text 就是支持可以讓部長跟個別的委員
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transcript.whisperx[5258].text 上面真的非常需要的去強化
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transcript.whisperx[5336].text 我不曉得部會這邊有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5337].text 在追蹤大家的使用者意見
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transcript.whisperx[5338].text 我想我們東寶寺應該後台
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transcript.whisperx[5339].text 都有隨時在監控
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transcript.whisperx[5340].text 其中有一個我覺得可能要跟外界
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transcript.whisperx[5341].text 溝通的 就是外界也希望說這個地圖
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transcript.whisperx[5342].text 可以看到所有點位
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transcript.whisperx[5343].text 那我剛才說的 我們第一階段
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transcript.whisperx[5344].text 第一階段是不開放的
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transcript.whisperx[5345].text 這個待會我會再繼續問喔
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transcript.whisperx[5346].text 不過我要接下來問的是說
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transcript.whisperx[5347].text 剛剛說可以自行上傳 所以
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transcript.whisperx[5348].text 民眾說野外架設的自動相機影像
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transcript.whisperx[5349].text 也是可以透過
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transcript.whisperx[5350].text 他們存在手機裡
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transcript.whisperx[5351].text 就自動上傳的 對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5352].text 我想一定要透過APP去照相
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transcript.whisperx[5353].text 一定要透過APP去照相
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transcript.whisperx[5354].text 而不是說我照相以後
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transcript.whisperx[5355].text 再另外上傳 不過
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transcript.whisperx[5356].text 委員講的這個部分 我想我們可以
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transcript.whisperx[5357].text 來考慮就是說 有沒有另外一個
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transcript.whisperx[5358].text 系統就是你用一般的相機照相
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transcript.whisperx[5359].text 以後 透過一個
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transcript.whisperx[5360].text 專線的管道上傳
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transcript.whisperx[5361].text 到我們的資料庫 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5362].text 我想這件事情我先釐清一下喔 應該是說
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transcript.whisperx[5363].text 他用自動 他只用自動相機
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transcript.whisperx[5364].text 的影像 他傳到他自己的手機裡面
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transcript.whisperx[5365].text 再上傳 這樣是可行的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5366].text 不是 他一定先開
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transcript.whisperx[5367].text 先開APP
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transcript.whisperx[5368].text APP裡面有一個照相功能
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transcript.whisperx[5369].text 從照相功能去照相才可以上傳
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transcript.whisperx[5371].text 拍 再開這個APP是
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transcript.whisperx[5372].text 傳不上去的
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transcript.whisperx[5373].text 那這不是蠻奇妙的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5374].text 因為這個功能到底這個技術是
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transcript.whisperx[5376].text 應用程式應該都是可以做到的事情
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transcript.whisperx[5378].text GPS可以很精準的定位
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transcript.whisperx[5380].text 照相機也沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5382].text 好 沒關係 那這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[5383].text 我們事後再討論 不過我想要回到
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transcript.whisperx[5384].text 剛剛的第一個問題 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[5385].text 我們最後還是希望可以透過這個資訊
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transcript.whisperx[5386].text 傳出來之後讓公民
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transcript.whisperx[5387].text 可以一起來做相關的研究
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transcript.whisperx[5388].text 分佈位置 衝突的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5389].text 其實公民也可以一起來參與
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transcript.whisperx[5390].text 那現階段沒有 那大概
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transcript.whisperx[5392].text 導入更多的
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transcript.whisperx[5393].text 研究量呢
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transcript.whisperx[5394].text 在開放的過程中 我想
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transcript.whisperx[5395].text 我們不會那麼輕易的開放
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transcript.whisperx[5397].text 公民團體願意利用
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transcript.whisperx[5398].text 這個東西去做研究
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transcript.whisperx[5399].text 但是也必須
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transcript.whisperx[5400].text 切結承諾不對外
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transcript.whisperx[5401].text 公開 那我們可以考慮
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transcript.whisperx[5402].text 大家一起來合作
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transcript.whisperx[5403].text 好 那這樣子的話 我再請這些團體來
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transcript.whisperx[5404].text 我們再請
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transcript.whisperx[5405].text 我們再一起討論好了
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transcript.whisperx[5406].text 不過再給我一點時間 抱歉 主
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transcript.whisperx[5407].text 就是有關於狂犬病的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5408].text 就是目前我們可以看到這個案例
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transcript.whisperx[5409].text 上面這兩個月的統計數字
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transcript.whisperx[5410].text 已經是這七年來最高的高峰
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transcript.whisperx[5411].text 平均過去大概是13 14
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transcript.whisperx[5412].text 但是今年已經到了19
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transcript.whisperx[5413].text 那我想這部分其實也要
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transcript.whisperx[5414].text 趕快的跟我們的
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transcript.whisperx[5415].text 這有可能會爆發大規模的傳染
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transcript.whisperx[5416].text 這可能是個
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transcript.whisperx[5417].text 潛在的風險 所以我們現在是不是
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transcript.whisperx[5418].text 有一個提前的盤點
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transcript.whisperx[5419].text 整體的防疫上面去避免它
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transcript.whisperx[5420].text 造成可能猶亂犬
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transcript.whisperx[5421].text 的傳染 或是其他的物種的傳染
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transcript.whisperx[5422].text 我想第一個部分就是
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transcript.whisperx[5423].text 我們要積極的加強這個狂犬病的疫苗
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transcript.whisperx[5424].text 對狗隻 犬隻
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transcript.whisperx[5425].text 還有貓的部分 那貓可能
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transcript.whisperx[5426].text 機會比較小 因為在家裡
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transcript.whisperx[5427].text 但是有一個熱區就是說
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transcript.whisperx[5428].text 比較靠近田間的
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transcript.whisperx[5429].text 野外的這些區位
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transcript.whisperx[5430].text 我想我們會更主動的
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transcript.whisperx[5431].text 去通知他們來打狂犬病疫苗
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transcript.whisperx[5432].text 好 沒關係 我想時間
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transcript.whisperx[5433].text 已經到了 我們會後約時間討論好了
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transcript.whisperx[5434].text 好不好 謝謝 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5435].text 張亞林委員的質詢
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transcript.whisperx[5436].text 部長先回座
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transcript.whisperx[5437].text 這個 這一場委員 許醫會也到了
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transcript.whisperx[5438].text 我們在許醫會委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[5439].text 之後 我們會休息五分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[5440].text 下一位質詢請李玉玲委員
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transcript.whisperx[5442].text 謝謝主席 請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[5443].text 餘悅署的王署長
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transcript.whisperx[5444].text 請農業部陳部長 餘悅署王署長
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transcript.whisperx[5445].text 餘悅署長
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transcript.whisperx[5446].text 因為我們的政府大力在推動
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transcript.whisperx[5450].text 所以要來大規模的
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transcript.whisperx[5451].text 來發展這個太陽能發電的話
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transcript.whisperx[5452].text 會非常的困難
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transcript.whisperx[5453].text 所以呢
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transcript.whisperx[5454].text 他們就會在餘溫上面
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transcript.whisperx[5455].text 加裝了這個光電板
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transcript.whisperx[5456].text 叫做餘電共生
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transcript.whisperx[5457].text 所以剛剛部長您說了
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transcript.whisperx[5458].text 餘電共生
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transcript.whisperx[5460].text 對不對 再重申一次
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transcript.whisperx[5461].text 餘電共生的政策不會變
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transcript.whisperx[5462].text 不會變 就不會變餘電脫鉤
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transcript.whisperx[5464].text 因為地方的很多
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transcript.whisperx[5465].text 這個餘業的
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transcript.whisperx[5467].text 都在反映他們的養子
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transcript.whisperx[5468].text 的那個餘溫的魚
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transcript.whisperx[5469].text 生產受到非常大的影響
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transcript.whisperx[5470].text 你們有沒有去調查
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transcript.whisperx[5471].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[5472].text 我們從過去的餘電共生的案例
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transcript.whisperx[5473].text 來看的話就是
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transcript.whisperx[5474].text 有很多東西 因為漁民不夠了解
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transcript.whisperx[5475].text 那光電業者在蓋的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5476].text 蓋的時候就沒有考慮到
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transcript.whisperx[5477].text 漁業的作業的經營的
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transcript.whisperx[5478].text 這個區的方式
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transcript.whisperx[5479].text 部長 你說到這邊我想先請教你
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transcript.whisperx[5480].text 他必須要經過農業的許可
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transcript.whisperx[5481].text 再才經過這個新建的許可
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transcript.whisperx[5482].text 執照 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[5483].text 所以你們漁業這邊要有條件
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transcript.whisperx[5484].text 但書告訴他們所有的規範
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transcript.whisperx[5485].text 那為什麼他們新建
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transcript.whisperx[5486].text 加蓋這個太陽的版社會不符合
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transcript.whisperx[5487].text 規格呢 你說到不符合規格的話
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transcript.whisperx[5488].text 本期又再提醒你
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transcript.whisperx[5489].text 像符合規格的大概有269件
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transcript.whisperx[5490].text 不符合規格的有117件
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transcript.whisperx[5491].text 這117件
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transcript.whisperx[5492].text 掌握了沒有
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transcript.whisperx[5493].text 他們不符合的原因是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[5494].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[5495].text 269件 總共298個案場
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transcript.whisperx[5496].text 已經查了91%
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transcript.whisperx[5497].text 269 裡面
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transcript.whisperx[5498].text 有35場大概13%
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transcript.whisperx[5499].text 是被廢止的
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transcript.whisperx[5500].text 那另外有101件是通過的
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transcript.whisperx[5501].text 您剛才講的117件
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transcript.whisperx[5502].text 本身是
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transcript.whisperx[5503].text 要改善的 那要改善的話
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transcript.whisperx[5504].text 樣態非常多 你是改善了嗎 不是
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transcript.whisperx[5511].text 他有非常多的 他的本身可能
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transcript.whisperx[5514].text 石斑魚 不是
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transcript.whisperx[5517].text 所以有沒有去調查
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transcript.whisperx[5518].text 有沒有去關心 輔導他們 就是因為有調查
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transcript.whisperx[5520].text 也會進場去輔導
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transcript.whisperx[5521].text 但是生產減少你們知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5522].text 我想生產減少
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transcript.whisperx[5523].text 這件事情本身有非常非常多的原因
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transcript.whisperx[5524].text 因為人的因素也有
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transcript.whisperx[5525].text 天候的因素也有
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transcript.whisperx[5526].text 當然 但是
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transcript.whisperx[5527].text 要去關心他們生計
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transcript.whisperx[5528].text 不要到外面大家都在傳
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transcript.whisperx[5529].text 是假養殖是真重點
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transcript.whisperx[5530].text 所以為什麼我希望說未來的魚店公司
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transcript.whisperx[5531].text 能夠回歸到專業
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transcript.whisperx[5532].text 在設計的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5533].text 因為新業者就要跟漁民一起合作
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transcript.whisperx[5534].text 來做專業的處理
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transcript.whisperx[5535].text 所以部長你這邊有真正去了解嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5539].text 跟光電是沒有關係的
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transcript.whisperx[5540].text 為什麼沒有關係
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transcript.whisperx[5541].text 為什麼有關係
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transcript.whisperx[5543].text 我們以實際的
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transcript.whisperx[5544].text 栽培面積來看
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transcript.whisperx[5545].text 魚店共生本身
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transcript.whisperx[5546].text 包括他現在新建的案產台
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transcript.whisperx[5547].text 兩千多公頃而已
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transcript.whisperx[5549].text 包括我們現在全台灣的養殖面積大概
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transcript.whisperx[5550].text 三萬六千六萬公頃
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transcript.whisperx[5551].text 所以他不是因為
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transcript.whisperx[5553].text 本身有一些定期的
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transcript.whisperx[5554].text 修養
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transcript.whisperx[5555].text 現在在調整他的放養量的聲爆
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transcript.whisperx[5556].text 所以我想
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transcript.whisperx[5557].text 部長你看看三年來
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transcript.whisperx[5558].text 2022年到2024年
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transcript.whisperx[5559].text 四木魚、五郭魚、十斑魚
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transcript.whisperx[5561].text 這立方公尺的
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transcript.whisperx[5562].text 從四木魚像2022年
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transcript.whisperx[5563].text 是七八三三立方公尺
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transcript.whisperx[5564].text 到2024年是6526
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transcript.whisperx[5565].text 就是這樣子啊
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transcript.whisperx[5566].text 一直逐年減少
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transcript.whisperx[5569].text 他不一定是壞事
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transcript.whisperx[5570].text 因為本身我們要看
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transcript.whisperx[5571].text 他的供需
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transcript.whisperx[5572].text 供需如果說面積越來越多
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transcript.whisperx[5573].text 可是我們吃的沒那麼多的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5574].text 那價格就會崩盤
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transcript.whisperx[5575].text 部長你講的也是理由之一
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transcript.whisperx[5576].text 但是我告訴你是
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transcript.whisperx[5577].text 他就是魚店共生
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transcript.whisperx[5578].text 發生的這個生產影響受到下降
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transcript.whisperx[5579].text 我覺得不能用這樣
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transcript.whisperx[5580].text 下結論這個是不對的結論
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transcript.whisperx[5582].text 我們一直有調查
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transcript.whisperx[5583].text 你有跟你反應嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5585].text 你跟他們是關於他們這不告訴你了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5587].text 我要跟您說明的就是你去看單一的案場
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transcript.whisperx[5589].text 不代表是全部的
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transcript.whisperx[5590].text 那我們漁業署有系統性的去調查
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transcript.whisperx[5593].text 光電不養
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transcript.whisperx[5594].text 因為光電不養
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transcript.whisperx[5595].text 只有幾千公頃而已
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transcript.whisperx[5596].text 部長你如果你有真心深入去了解
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transcript.whisperx[5598].text 經過這個漁店共生之後
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transcript.whisperx[5599].text 有沒有實質的效益在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[5600].text 就實質的效益發現數據會說話
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transcript.whisperx[5601].text 面積減少
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transcript.whisperx[5602].text 生產也下降了
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transcript.whisperx[5603].text 所以要怎麼去輔導
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transcript.whisperx[5604].text 所以外面才會在傳
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transcript.whisperx[5605].text 假養殖是真正的
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transcript.whisperx[5606].text 我覺得這樣的比喻就好像我看電視
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transcript.whisperx[5607].text 在燙運動結果
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transcript.whisperx[5608].text 輸了以後
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transcript.whisperx[5609].text 衣服燒掉了一樣
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transcript.whisperx[5610].text 因為兩個東西不能把它硬扯到相關性
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transcript.whisperx[5611].text 都是原因之一
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transcript.whisperx[5612].text 部長你的比喻
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transcript.whisperx[5613].text 我也不能接受
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transcript.whisperx[5614].text 跟你講養殖業跟看電視沒有關係
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transcript.whisperx[5615].text 所以
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transcript.whisperx[5616].text 我的意思是說
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transcript.whisperx[5617].text 任何兩個東西你要去做相關一定有關係
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transcript.whisperx[5618].text 都有它的因素存在
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transcript.whisperx[5619].text 這兩個相關有沒有意義
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transcript.whisperx[5620].text 他以前沒有去漁店共生的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5621].text 養殖業都還不錯
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transcript.whisperx[5622].text 生產都很好
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transcript.whisperx[5623].text 但是就是因為漁店共生發生這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[5624].text 所以我們要請專家
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transcript.whisperx[5625].text 來了解研究
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transcript.whisperx[5626].text 是不是剛剛講有117家
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transcript.whisperx[5627].text 他們還有改善
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transcript.whisperx[5628].text 沒有改善才會造成某種原因
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transcript.whisperx[5629].text 是不是我們不知道
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transcript.whisperx[5630].text 我接受你的不知道
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transcript.whisperx[5631].text 但是你要去研究了解
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transcript.whisperx[5632].text 輔導幫助這養殖業的生計生存
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transcript.whisperx[5633].text 一定會
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transcript.whisperx[5634].text 我們一定會輔導
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transcript.whisperx[5635].text 我再次去強調就是說
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transcript.whisperx[5636].text 如果光電開始
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transcript.whisperx[5637].text 實施以後的往前看10年
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transcript.whisperx[5638].text 他的面積也會浮動
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transcript.whisperx[5639].text 那個浮動其實是一個產銷
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transcript.whisperx[5640].text 浮動是有真有假的
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transcript.whisperx[5641].text 連續3年都下架
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transcript.whisperx[5642].text 實施的數字在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[5643].text 5年跟10年長期判斷
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transcript.whisperx[5644].text 請你去關心
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transcript.whisperx[5645].text 所以你也強調了
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transcript.whisperx[5646].text 絕對不會漁店脫鉤
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transcript.whisperx[5647].text 不會
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transcript.whisperx[5648].text 這個結果一定會堅持著
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transcript.whisperx[5649].text 本席再請教
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transcript.whisperx[5650].text 部長因為現在有偽農藥
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transcript.whisperx[5651].text 偽農藥的話
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transcript.whisperx[5652].text 如果是在地的部分的話
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transcript.whisperx[5653].text 都是當地政府在做偽農藥的處理
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transcript.whisperx[5654].text 那如果說像境外的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5655].text 那你們的防檢局
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transcript.whisperx[5656].text 你們的檢驗局
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transcript.whisperx[5657].text 是不是要負擔起這個責任
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transcript.whisperx[5658].text 我想如果是境外的
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transcript.whisperx[5659].text 也是透過走私
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transcript.whisperx[5660].text 那走私本身喔
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transcript.whisperx[5661].text 海關的部分會來處理
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transcript.whisperx[5662].text 我們農業部還有海巡
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transcript.whisperx[5663].text 都會共同來
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transcript.whisperx[5664].text 成立這樣打擊的一個
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transcript.whisperx[5665].text 但是要處理這偽農藥怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[5666].text 地方政府啊
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transcript.whisperx[5667].text 可是他是境外的
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transcript.whisperx[5668].text 一般是國內的話
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transcript.whisperx[5669].text 境外你進到哪個縣市
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transcript.whisperx[5670].text 各地方政府發生的話
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transcript.whisperx[5671].text 在地的
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transcript.whisperx[5672].text 在我們台灣境內的話
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transcript.whisperx[5673].text 當然是地方政府來處理
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transcript.whisperx[5674].text 現在是說從國外進來
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transcript.whisperx[5675].text 坐飛機進來境外的
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transcript.whisperx[5676].text 境外在海關
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transcript.whisperx[5677].text 擋下來就是擋下來
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transcript.whisperx[5678].text 就海關會處理
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transcript.whisperx[5679].text 那如果說進到我們的本島裡面
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transcript.whisperx[5680].text 境外的也要當地的政府
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transcript.whisperx[5681].text 跟你講實話
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transcript.whisperx[5682].text 機場的話就是當地的縣市政府
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transcript.whisperx[5683].text 可是他是屬於境外的
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transcript.whisperx[5684].text 我想請問一下
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transcript.whisperx[5685].text 這個研究他並沒有出關
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transcript.whisperx[5686].text 在這入關的檢驗的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5687].text 發生的所以境外跟境內
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transcript.whisperx[5688].text 的處理是不是應該要分開
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transcript.whisperx[5689].text 來講所以我請你回去
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transcript.whisperx[5690].text 研究這個偽農藥的境外
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transcript.whisperx[5691].text 是不是防檢局要來讓全國
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transcript.whisperx[5692].text 的收集起來因為本土
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transcript.whisperx[5693].text 的偽農藥的話是比較
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transcript.whisperx[5694].text 比較少那境外的話是
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transcript.whisperx[5695].text 比較多所以處理的方式是不是
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transcript.whisperx[5696].text 你們研究一下看怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[5697].text 我想我回去了解
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transcript.whisperx[5698].text 境外跟境內是不一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[5699].text 請部長都
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transcript.whisperx[5700].text 這個偽農藥能夠徹底的處理
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transcript.whisperx[5701].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5702].text 部長先會做
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transcript.whisperx[5703].text 下一位質詢請 洪孟凱委員
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transcript.whisperx[5704].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5705].text 主席謝謝麻煩請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[5706].text 請農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[5707].text 好部長好部長
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transcript.whisperx[5708].text 就教一下因為動保法本席也
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transcript.whisperx[5709].text 非常的關心到目前為止
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transcript.whisperx[5710].text 現在我們行政院院會通過
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transcript.whisperx[5711].text 我們農業部的版本了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5712].text 在上個會期已經開始
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transcript.whisperx[5713].text 逐條審查
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transcript.whisperx[5714].text 我知道
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transcript.whisperx[5715].text 已經進到立法院了
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transcript.whisperx[5716].text 那因為裡面有一些
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transcript.whisperx[5717].text 條文特別是
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transcript.whisperx[5718].text 禁止餵養這些事情
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transcript.whisperx[5719].text 有一些沒有共識
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transcript.whisperx[5720].text 那我們也開始啟動
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transcript.whisperx[5721].text 我們在這邊協商了兩次
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transcript.whisperx[5722].text 到最後還是
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transcript.whisperx[5723].text 我們現在就是說在跟委員溝通
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transcript.whisperx[5725].text 有很多重要的條文包括
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transcript.whisperx[5726].text 這些動保檢察員賦予行政權利
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transcript.whisperx[5727].text 還有一些事主責任的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5728].text 能夠把沒有共識的
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transcript.whisperx[5729].text 我們先擱一邊
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transcript.whisperx[5730].text 擱一邊的話讓這個法能夠順利的過了以後
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transcript.whisperx[5731].text 至少往前走一步
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transcript.whisperx[5732].text 那這部分我想我們會再跟
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transcript.whisperx[5733].text 所有的委員跟利害關係團體來做溝通
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transcript.whisperx[5735].text 重點是來保護保障
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transcript.whisperx[5737].text 那以及跟我們社會能夠更共融
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transcript.whisperx[5738].text 所以本席也針對
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transcript.whisperx[5742].text 好的一個待遇
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transcript.whisperx[5748].text 現在目前當然
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transcript.whisperx[5749].text 我先不講動檢員包括我們畜牧師
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transcript.whisperx[5752].text 這個轉換的至少三分之一
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transcript.whisperx[5753].text 所以包括
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transcript.whisperx[5755].text 所以我現在就是想
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transcript.whisperx[5758].text 那唯一可以提升的就是
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transcript.whisperx[5767].text 因為這牽涉到全台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[5773].text 這個我們會來努力
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transcript.whisperx[5774].text 部長你這樣講是
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transcript.whisperx[5777].text 尤其我們新北市也有相關
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transcript.whisperx[5778].text 你說像宋醫師幾乎
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transcript.whisperx[5779].text 大家沒有人來沒有人願意來
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transcript.whisperx[5782].text 做功德吧
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transcript.whisperx[5788].text 因為不是我能夠決定的
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transcript.whisperx[5794].text 這也是為什麼我今天在用
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transcript.whisperx[5795].text 我們質詢時間再一次點出這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[5800].text 要不要 最好
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transcript.whisperx[5801].text 好啊來你安排
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transcript.whisperx[5805].text 不是耍嘴皮
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transcript.whisperx[5806].text 也不是開玩笑而是說我今天
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transcript.whisperx[5807].text 看到問題了
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transcript.whisperx[5810].text 現在是你人種那等於是一個大水庫的部分
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transcript.whisperx[5812].text 所有行政單位我也可以理解啊
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transcript.whisperx[5813].text 行政單位一定每個人都叫沒錢
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transcript.whisperx[5814].text 每個人都叫沒人啊
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transcript.whisperx[5828].text 來的待遇好很多啊還不用
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transcript.whisperx[5833].text 防檢的人士一起來努力的
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transcript.whisperx[5834].text 所以這兩個人都有缺
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transcript.whisperx[5835].text 所以我也跟人種已經談過了
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transcript.whisperx[5839].text 連每個禮拜四
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transcript.whisperx[5841].text 行政院會不是只是聽行政院長
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transcript.whisperx[5844].text 有些時候你部長一直排開的時候
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transcript.whisperx[5845].text 禮拜四行政院會你也可以提出啊
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transcript.whisperx[5846].text 讓部長讓院長來裁決啊
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transcript.whisperx[5848].text 勇於發聲你發的聲音
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transcript.whisperx[5849].text 就是為基層發聲
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transcript.whisperx[5852].text 對我們農業領域的這些人的
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transcript.whisperx[5853].text 爭取是一直非常幫忙的啦
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transcript.whisperx[5857].text 部長因為我還有另外一個議題
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transcript.whisperx[5865].text 在質詢的時候不知道什麼時候你下次
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transcript.whisperx[5867].text 然後一樣的回答
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transcript.whisperx[5868].text 過一年一樣的回答過兩年一樣的回答
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transcript.whisperx[5869].text 辛苦的是基層
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transcript.whisperx[5870].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[5871].text 來部長另外一個議題因為趙薇已經站起來
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transcript.whisperx[5872].text 本席選區
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transcript.whisperx[5873].text 好沒有問題謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5874].text 魚人碼頭這個算漁業處的議題
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transcript.whisperx[5875].text 簡單講
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transcript.whisperx[5876].text 三年前新北市府
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transcript.whisperx[5877].text 有個計畫是希望魚人碼頭能夠
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transcript.whisperx[5878].text 做一些改造跟活化
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transcript.whisperx[5879].text 因為
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transcript.whisperx[5880].text 生活形勢不同
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transcript.whisperx[5881].text 我們當地的漁民其實
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transcript.whisperx[5882].text 真的是越來越少而且
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transcript.whisperx[5883].text 漁民的二代也都不願意
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transcript.whisperx[5884].text 不太願意接這個漁民工作因為不容易
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transcript.whisperx[5885].text 那可能用其他的工作
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transcript.whisperx[5886].text 考量第二當地的漁會很
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transcript.whisperx[5887].text 支持希望是說魚人碼頭有更多
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transcript.whisperx[5888].text 的活化因為魚人碼頭他有很多
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transcript.whisperx[5889].text 觀光的需求以及
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transcript.whisperx[5890].text 這個國外旅客還有第三
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transcript.whisperx[5891].text 新北市府整體的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[5892].text 包括整個北海岸
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transcript.whisperx[5893].text 的延伸但三年前到最後申請
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transcript.whisperx[5894].text 是被打回票就是說不同意
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transcript.whisperx[5895].text 這個魚人碼頭去做
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transcript.whisperx[5896].text 其他這個多複合使用
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transcript.whisperx[5897].text 那我現在講的是說能不能
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transcript.whisperx[5898].text 再針對這部分因為今年
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transcript.whisperx[5899].text 有一個重點是我們淡江大橋
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transcript.whisperx[5900].text 5月12號通車那未來
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transcript.whisperx[5901].text 對北海岸的觀光交通也會
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transcript.whisperx[5902].text 有更大的一個注意那魚人碼頭
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transcript.whisperx[5903].text 勢必也會有在討論
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transcript.whisperx[5904].text 的空間能不能讓新北市府
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transcript.whisperx[5905].text 讓漁業處這邊能夠有一個怎麼樣的
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transcript.whisperx[5906].text 想法來進進一步再來討論
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transcript.whisperx[5907].text 因為徐副委員一直等
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transcript.whisperx[5908].text 同意我會請漁業處
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transcript.whisperx[5909].text 跟新北市政府來
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transcript.whisperx[5910].text 溝通然後重啟這樣子的一個規劃
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transcript.whisperx[5911].text 看看說有沒有一些空間
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transcript.whisperx[5912].text 可以來處理該新北市府
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transcript.whisperx[5913].text 做的申請的新北市府申請
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transcript.whisperx[5914].text 但是希望我們漁業處這邊
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transcript.whisperx[5915].text 能夠秉持
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transcript.whisperx[5916].text 比較開放的一個心胸
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transcript.whisperx[5917].text 畢竟真的南北差異差很多
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transcript.whisperx[5918].text 那還有就是說當地的民眾其實也對
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transcript.whisperx[5919].text 這個有期待
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transcript.whisperx[5920].text 好感謝謝謝昭偉
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transcript.whisperx[5921].text 今天非常趕時間
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transcript.whisperx[5922].text 你一要一分鐘我給你三分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[5923].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[5924].text 好不能回座
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transcript.whisperx[5925].text 下位致歉請徐副委員
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transcript.whisperx[5926].text 謝謝主席有請我們陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[5927].text 南北部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[5928].text 部長午安
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transcript.whisperx[5929].text 這個洋蔥是恆春半島
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transcript.whisperx[5930].text 很重要的一個農產品
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transcript.whisperx[5931].text 那我想在整個這個
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transcript.whisperx[5932].text 產銷的部分跟這個
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transcript.whisperx[5933].text 所謂的軟液體的建設部分
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transcript.whisperx[5934].text 非常謝謝部長過去的
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transcript.whisperx[5935].text 支持那上個禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[5936].text 我們也風光的辦了一場
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transcript.whisperx[5937].text 屏東的洋蔥這個
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transcript.whisperx[5938].text 外銷日本總共有1902噸
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transcript.whisperx[5939].text 到日本的一個
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transcript.whisperx[5940].text 外銷的豐貴記者會
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transcript.whisperx[5941].text 那我們的胡市長也有去參加了
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transcript.whisperx[5942].text 部長這是對整個我們的
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transcript.whisperx[5943].text 洋蔥產業是一個很正向的一個
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transcript.whisperx[5944].text 儀式
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transcript.whisperx[5945].text 那我想未來我們甚至還有開出
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transcript.whisperx[5946].text 今年會有600公噸的洋蔥
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transcript.whisperx[5947].text 要外銷到韓國到馬來西亞
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transcript.whisperx[5948].text 部長這個訊息對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5949].text 預估是這樣子的
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transcript.whisperx[5950].text 但是這個部長
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transcript.whisperx[5951].text 這個我們現在洋蔥的農民
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transcript.whisperx[5952].text 現在愁容滿面
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transcript.whisperx[5953].text 部長知道為什麼嗎
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transcript.whisperx[5954].text 我了解了
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transcript.whisperx[5955].text 雖然說現在屏東的洋蔥還沒有正式的
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transcript.whisperx[5956].text 大量的收穫嘛
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transcript.whisperx[5957].text 那其實我們也關注到現在洋蔥
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transcript.whisperx[5958].text 怎樣的一個整體的產地價的
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transcript.whisperx[5959].text 一個行情所以我已經有請
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transcript.whisperx[5960].text 那個農糧署
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transcript.whisperx[5961].text 也跟委員這邊還有
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transcript.whisperx[5962].text 我們的產地做一些溝通
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transcript.whisperx[5963].text 我們會有一些
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transcript.whisperx[5964].text 特別下恆春號
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transcript.whisperx[5965].text 我把農糧署我們的同仁
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transcript.whisperx[5966].text 還有包含我們恆春車城
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transcript.whisperx[5967].text 訪生三個農會總幹事
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transcript.whisperx[5968].text 那這相關的官員我們有做了一個討論
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transcript.whisperx[5969].text 那當然目前因為
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transcript.whisperx[5970].text 即將進入盛產期
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transcript.whisperx[5971].text 那目前的產地價格已經
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transcript.whisperx[5972].text 腰斬了出一百塊
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transcript.whisperx[5973].text 這農民真的是
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transcript.whisperx[5974].text 靠不出來啦
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transcript.whisperx[5975].text 那我想是不是有沒有考慮說我們
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transcript.whisperx[5976].text 三個農會都期待我們是不是應該
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transcript.whisperx[5977].text 配合這樣的一個盛產期
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transcript.whisperx[5978].text 來做一個洞存的考量
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transcript.whisperx[5979].text 我想喔
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transcript.whisperx[5980].text 我們第一個就是
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transcript.whisperx[5981].text 包括這邊的洋蔥跟剛才有的委員提到的
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transcript.whisperx[5982].text 這個蒜頭我們不會啟動
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transcript.whisperx[5983].text 保駕收購但是我們會用
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transcript.whisperx[5984].text 另外的方式來協助農民
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transcript.whisperx[5985].text 確保他的一定的
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transcript.whisperx[5986].text 一個價格啦
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transcript.whisperx[5987].text 那這個部分我想我們會努力來做
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transcript.whisperx[5988].text 那我還是再強調
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transcript.whisperx[5989].text 就是相對的就是說
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transcript.whisperx[5990].text 屏東這邊還沒有開始正式的
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transcript.whisperx[5991].text 量產的部分但是我們要
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transcript.whisperx[5992].text 先把相關的附案
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transcript.whisperx[5993].text 先做一個跟農會
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transcript.whisperx[5994].text 跟地方的農會
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transcript.whisperx[5995].text 這邊做一個溝通那我相信
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transcript.whisperx[5996].text 農糧署已經有準備了一些方案
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transcript.whisperx[5997].text 那在適當的時間我想
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transcript.whisperx[5999].text 部長我還是期待啦
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transcript.whisperx[6000].text 因為上一次紅豆事件的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6001].text 我第一時間會打給部長
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transcript.whisperx[6002].text 那我們也配合農糧署我想
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transcript.whisperx[6003].text 我們就結合當地的農會跟相關的一些
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transcript.whisperx[6004].text 業者我們來這個
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transcript.whisperx[6005].text 滾動式檢討
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transcript.whisperx[6006].text 這是一個很好的模式紅豆就是一個很好的模式
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transcript.whisperx[6007].text 我們會來處理
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transcript.whisperx[6008].text 所以部長會支持這樣的一個滾動檢討
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transcript.whisperx[6010].text 要去做一個比較好的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6012].text 不要讓百姓欲哭無淚啦
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transcript.whisperx[6015].text 尤其馬上就要開始採收了
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transcript.whisperx[6016].text 不要讓農民真的是
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transcript.whisperx[6017].text 難受了
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transcript.whisperx[6018].text 確保農民的收益一直是我們農業部的一個責任
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transcript.whisperx[6019].text 那另外我還是要請教第二個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6020].text 目前屏東農業
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transcript.whisperx[6021].text 有傷害
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transcript.whisperx[6023].text 這個綠葉西的部分我想
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transcript.whisperx[6024].text 感謝你的支持
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transcript.whisperx[6025].text 我們去年我賺了七千萬
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transcript.whisperx[6026].text 我們針對這樣的房子的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6027].text 做一個做物的一個
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transcript.whisperx[6028].text 但是我們農民也歡樂
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transcript.whisperx[6029].text 今年明年還有沒有這樣的一個計畫
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transcript.whisperx[6031].text 這個政策不會改變
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transcript.whisperx[6032].text 那那個利稻我想
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transcript.whisperx[6033].text 我們會再持續跟行政院增盈經費
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transcript.whisperx[6034].text 那相對的只有中央跟
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transcript.whisperx[6035].text 地方政府一起合作還有這些
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transcript.whisperx[6037].text 才有機會像去年
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transcript.whisperx[6038].text 就獵捕了二十六萬隻
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transcript.whisperx[6039].text 比往年的幾萬隻都是幾十倍
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transcript.whisperx[6040].text 的成長這是有機會的
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transcript.whisperx[6042].text 我們現在會針對
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transcript.whisperx[6043].text 族群做一個更仔細
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transcript.whisperx[6044].text 的調查特別是把這個
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transcript.whisperx[6045].text 熱區框出來特別是在
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transcript.whisperx[6046].text 農業區的周遭的這個
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transcript.whisperx[6047].text 明猴的危害那我們會
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transcript.whisperx[6048].text 啟動一些適當的這些處理
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transcript.whisperx[6049].text 的作業
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transcript.whisperx[6050].text 我會用更積極的角度去處理這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6051].text 那因為明猴跟梅花路
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transcript.whisperx[6052].text 恆春半島也很多
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transcript.whisperx[6053].text 而且有的在國家公園範圍裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6054].text 我也有跟
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transcript.whisperx[6055].text 王署長講過了我們應該要趕快跨部會
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transcript.whisperx[6056].text 來看看怎麼去防止
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transcript.whisperx[6057].text 我想明猴
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transcript.whisperx[6059].text 一直有一些一些協助
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transcript.whisperx[6060].text 我們都有協助他們
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transcript.whisperx[6062].text 梅花路的部分我想我們
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transcript.whisperx[6063].text 應該要用一個不一樣的思維
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transcript.whisperx[6064].text 去處理不然永遠放任
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transcript.whisperx[6065].text 在那邊也不然
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transcript.whisperx[6066].text 好幾個會期都問這個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6067].text 還是真的要有對策
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transcript.whisperx[6068].text 我們問到這個議題結束了
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transcript.whisperx[6070].text 的管轄權不是我們
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transcript.whisperx[6071].text 我知道
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transcript.whisperx[6072].text 所以我說
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transcript.whisperx[6073].text 我們會再跟他們談但是相對
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transcript.whisperx[6075].text 要比較強所以我們會再努力來
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transcript.whisperx[6076].text 溝通啦好那最後一個問題
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transcript.whisperx[6077].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[6078].text 部長我知道你們總預算還沒有過你們的
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transcript.whisperx[6080].text 政府也苦哈哈少了四十幾億
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transcript.whisperx[6082].text 我跟漁業署署長
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transcript.whisperx[6083].text 去看了東港碼頭到現在
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transcript.whisperx[6084].text 連當都沒當還在設計規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6085].text 然後農水署
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transcript.whisperx[6086].text 經費也可憐
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transcript.whisperx[6087].text 一個管理處一年才兩千萬的
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transcript.whisperx[6089].text 就幾百萬做不到兩三條
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transcript.whisperx[6090].text 所以我們很多農民的灌溉
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transcript.whisperx[6091].text 溝取沒辦法做那這個
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transcript.whisperx[6093].text 計畫因為我們有涉及
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transcript.whisperx[6094].text 水利署有涉及農水署
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transcript.whisperx[6095].text 有涉及水保署
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transcript.whisperx[6096].text 有涉及縣政府沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[6098].text 部長這邊都解決
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transcript.whisperx[6104].text 農水路的部分我剛才
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transcript.whisperx[6105].text 說的農業部本身
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transcript.whisperx[6107].text 本身要有串接
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transcript.whisperx[6109].text 了大概就將近九十億
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transcript.whisperx[6111].text 路我本來要做一段
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transcript.whisperx[6112].text 所以整條路要開的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6113].text 那個經費可能要到位
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transcript.whisperx[6117].text 現在困境就在這裡
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transcript.whisperx[6119].text 瓶頸
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transcript.whisperx[6120].text 這個部分我想我們會個案來做一個評估
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transcript.whisperx[6121].text 最後一個
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transcript.whisperx[6122].text 王署長我還是要提醒
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transcript.whisperx[6123].text 養殖生產區裡面的道路
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transcript.whisperx[6124].text 跟橋樑
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transcript.whisperx[6125].text 那是你們的職業
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transcript.whisperx[6126].text 也要殺死水利署跟公路局
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transcript.whisperx[6127].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6131].text 會議進行中請保持述境
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transcript.whisperx[6132].text 那個列席的官員或者
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transcript.whisperx[6133].text 會議進行中請保持述境
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transcript.whisperx[6134].text 不要影響會議的進行
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transcript.whisperx[6135].text 我們現在繼續開會
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transcript.whisperx[6136].text 下一位指引請林德虎
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transcript.whisperx[6137].text 林德虎不在
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transcript.whisperx[6138].text 高金樹美不在
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transcript.whisperx[6139].text 高金樓民才樓民才樓民才不在
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transcript.whisperx[6141].text 主席王署長請保持述境
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transcript.whisperx[6142].text 請保持述境
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transcript.whisperx[6143].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[6144].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[6145].text 部長這個我今天要針對農安基金的執行進度
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transcript.whisperx[6146].text 來先跟你請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[6147].text 2月13號是我們政府宣布
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transcript.whisperx[6148].text 成立300億的農安基金
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transcript.whisperx[6149].text 農業部新聞稿那時候有稱
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transcript.whisperx[6150].text 近期公布各項的措施
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transcript.whisperx[6151].text 跟補助的申請程序等等
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transcript.whisperx[6152].text 在3月3號我在用會質詢的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6153].text 部長表示說
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transcript.whisperx[6154].text 農安基金的300億不會等到
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transcript.whisperx[6155].text 我們的ART真正生效之後
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transcript.whisperx[6156].text 再來去處理
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transcript.whisperx[6157].text 今天我看到3月18號
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transcript.whisperx[6158].text 業務報告裡面的四大面向
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transcript.whisperx[6159].text 福祉農業確保優勢
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transcript.whisperx[6160].text 擴大外銷
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transcript.whisperx[6161].text 跟鞏固產業的韌性這四項
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transcript.whisperx[6162].text 這是在第31頁
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transcript.whisperx[6163].text 但還是
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transcript.whisperx[6165].text 我們還是在做那四大面向
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transcript.whisperx[6166].text 針對這個申請的機制
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transcript.whisperx[6167].text 支持的方案
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transcript.whisperx[6168].text 預算的來源這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[6169].text 大概具體的目前的執行方案
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transcript.whisperx[6171].text 是不是可以跟農民開始
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transcript.whisperx[6172].text 來去說明讓農民可以盡快的
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transcript.whisperx[6173].text 來去做一些申請
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transcript.whisperx[6174].text 好謝委員的關心喔
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transcript.whisperx[6175].text 當初我們在不同的時間點對外的說明
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transcript.whisperx[6177].text 是已經簽署了
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transcript.whisperx[6178].text 只是還沒有經過立法院同意
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transcript.whisperx[6179].text 但是因為到後來
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transcript.whisperx[6180].text 那這時間的演變就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6181].text 因為ART本身的法律的依據
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transcript.whisperx[6182].text RE法本身被美國宣判是
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transcript.whisperx[6183].text 違法的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6185].text 的內容是我們
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transcript.whisperx[6186].text 希望維持這個內容
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transcript.whisperx[6187].text 但是它的法律本身的條文
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transcript.whisperx[6188].text 要用什麼樣的法律的程序
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transcript.whisperx[6189].text 來處理這美國正在美方正在處理
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transcript.whisperx[6191].text 第二個說明就是農安基金的
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transcript.whisperx[6192].text 300億裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6193].text 它是一個計畫型的基金
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transcript.whisperx[6194].text 它不是一個正式成立的一個像
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transcript.whisperx[6195].text 農發農損的基金
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transcript.whisperx[6196].text 類似我們當初的百億
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transcript.whisperx[6197].text 養豬的百億基金一樣
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transcript.whisperx[6198].text 那這些基金本身未來會用特別預算裡面的
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transcript.whisperx[6199].text 還剩下的額度去處理
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transcript.whisperx[6200].text 那現在
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transcript.whisperx[6201].text 剩下的現在目前我們有
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transcript.whisperx[6202].text 180億是處理
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transcript.whisperx[6204].text 190億的另外10億是處理
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transcript.whisperx[6211].text 那至於農安部分本身我們已經規劃好了
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transcript.whisperx[6212].text 但是它必須等到
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transcript.whisperx[6213].text 這個條文本身
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transcript.whisperx[6214].text 美方再度的確認以後才可以
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transcript.whisperx[6215].text 做因為它有一部分是跟
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transcript.whisperx[6218].text 那我想我們後續的協助
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transcript.whisperx[6219].text 行委員也不用擔心喔
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transcript.whisperx[6220].text 因為我們在原來的農發或農損基金裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6226].text 外銷就是升級,那外銷升級的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6227].text 原則上不管是
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transcript.whisperx[6229].text 怎麼樣,它都可以預先來去做
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transcript.whisperx[6230].text 準備嘛,因為
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transcript.whisperx[6231].text 我們現在包含我自己在內
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transcript.whisperx[6235].text 所以說我們的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[6236].text 如果沒有它
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transcript.whisperx[6241].text 之下來先去做
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transcript.whisperx[6244].text 部分,那這個部分我們可以
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transcript.whisperx[6245].text 理解,所以還是希望說
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transcript.whisperx[6246].text 因為我們無法,超支在別人的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6252].text 我特別跟委員報告,就是在301調查裡面
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transcript.whisperx[6253].text 有一個蠻重要,跟農業有關的
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transcript.whisperx[6254].text 就是稻米的貿易的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6255].text 那現在因為WTO稻米的貿易
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transcript.whisperx[6256].text 我們有配額的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6257].text 那我們這次台美貿易談判的話
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transcript.whisperx[6258].text 是完全沒有處理
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transcript.whisperx[6264].text 這樣對我們的糧食產業的
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transcript.whisperx[6265].text 衝擊才不會太大
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transcript.whisperx[6266].text 所以說部長,我們現在這樣
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transcript.whisperx[6267].text 等於是我們可以假設,如果在AIT
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transcript.whisperx[6269].text 我們就之前也跟所有
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transcript.whisperx[6270].text 所有國民都已經說不用擔心
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transcript.whisperx[6271].text 但是我們也要說,萬一
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transcript.whisperx[6272].text 對,我想我們也會
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transcript.whisperx[6273].text 補助,怎樣來協助稻
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transcript.whisperx[6274].text 的這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[6275].text 好,那第二個部分
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transcript.whisperx[6276].text 我們上一個會期
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transcript.whisperx[6277].text 跟好幾位我們經濟委員會的委員
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transcript.whisperx[6278].text 一起都開記者會
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transcript.whisperx[6279].text 主要是針對今年七月起的
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transcript.whisperx[6280].text 先努標章制度升級
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transcript.whisperx[6281].text 就是進口的液態努
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transcript.whisperx[6282].text 不得使用先努這個名稱
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transcript.whisperx[6283].text 那我們覺得這個政策方向是絕對正確
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transcript.whisperx[6284].text 不能退讓,但是剛才也提到301
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transcript.whisperx[6285].text 這個301條款的風險
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transcript.whisperx[6286].text 就是USCR
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transcript.whisperx[6287].text 他已經宣布要加速多項
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transcript.whisperx[6288].text 301的調查,涵蓋的就包含
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transcript.whisperx[6289].text 農漁產品
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transcript.whisperx[6290].text 所以我要特別再強調
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transcript.whisperx[6291].text 今年七月起的這個
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transcript.whisperx[6292].text 先努標章制度,他的正式升級
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transcript.whisperx[6293].text 進口的液態努不能使用
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transcript.whisperx[6294].text 先努這個名稱,還是希望說
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transcript.whisperx[6295].text 不要退帳,這是我們必須
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transcript.whisperx[6296].text 要保護我們國產的
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transcript.whisperx[6297].text 農業產品的權利
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transcript.whisperx[6298].text 跟消費者資的權利這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[6299].text 那部長有沒有信心可以
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transcript.whisperx[6300].text 有一套
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transcript.whisperx[6301].text 我們這麼講好了
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transcript.whisperx[6302].text 有沒有信心來產出一套
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transcript.whisperx[6303].text 完整的國際貿易法的論述
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transcript.whisperx[6304].text 來去確保我們的這一塊
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transcript.whisperx[6305].text 我想我們一定不會退讓
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transcript.whisperx[6306].text 而且我們也完整的準備
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transcript.whisperx[6307].text 相關的一個論述,因為
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transcript.whisperx[6308].text 先努這個先制本身
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transcript.whisperx[6309].text 我們有特別的界定
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transcript.whisperx[6310].text 那這個屬於國內法的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6311].text 因為我們不是把乃制
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transcript.whisperx[6312].text 改掉了,因為一般來講就是牛奶
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transcript.whisperx[6313].text 但是先制是
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transcript.whisperx[6314].text 在特定的台灣的
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transcript.whisperx[6315].text 經過產交履歷,經過驗證的
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transcript.whisperx[6316].text 這些部分才能夠叫先制
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transcript.whisperx[6317].text 這是屬於國內法的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6318].text 所以我們會更加強的這樣一個論述
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transcript.whisperx[6319].text 來做後續的處理
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transcript.whisperx[6320].text 好,那再麻煩了,這個一定要
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transcript.whisperx[6321].text 手足,謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[6322].text 謝謝陳柏霖委員
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transcript.whisperx[6323].text 謝謝二位,何清純
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transcript.whisperx[6324].text 何清純不在,劉建國
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transcript.whisperx[6325].text 在
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transcript.whisperx[6326].text 劉建國委員質詢
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transcript.whisperx[6327].text 好,謝謝主席,有請陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[6328].text 謝謝農業部陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[6329].text 部長好,部長辛苦了
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transcript.whisperx[6330].text 我叫小長,中期損
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transcript.whisperx[6331].text 最後就是針對拆架的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6332].text 這個表面就是這兩件的拆架很差
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transcript.whisperx[6333].text 我相信你也已經
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transcript.whisperx[6334].text 都有降壓了
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transcript.whisperx[6335].text 但是我先簡單請教部長說
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transcript.whisperx[6336].text 這兩件拆架不好
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transcript.whisperx[6337].text 對較這兩件以前的口罩
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transcript.whisperx[6338].text 拆架不太穩定,最大的
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transcript.whisperx[6339].text 原因是什麼,部長可以簡單說明一下
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transcript.whisperx[6340].text 我先
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transcript.whisperx[6341].text 跟委員報告,就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6342].text 事實上特別是短期業拆類跟長期業拆類
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transcript.whisperx[6343].text 本身,因為古泥
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transcript.whisperx[6344].text 本身的連續的颱風,造成
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transcript.whisperx[6345].text 我們西螺地區或是
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transcript.whisperx[6346].text 我們雲林地區的這些受損
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transcript.whisperx[6347].text 然後復工的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6348].text 太過於集中
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transcript.whisperx[6349].text 表示說它的量
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transcript.whisperx[6350].text 瞬間就變大,讓它的價格
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transcript.whisperx[6351].text 變低,那我覺得我們後續
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transcript.whisperx[6352].text 要去處理的,就是說
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transcript.whisperx[6353].text 要想辦法讓它分散它的一個
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transcript.whisperx[6354].text 種植的時間表
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transcript.whisperx[6355].text 那我們怎麼樣提供一些政策的
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transcript.whisperx[6356].text 誘因去引導他們
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transcript.whisperx[6357].text 而不是直接對拆架的一個補助
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transcript.whisperx[6358].text 對,政策的
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transcript.whisperx[6359].text 引導嘛,對不對,那政策的引導
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transcript.whisperx[6360].text 已經有發動了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6361].text 已經有執行了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6362].text 我現在特別
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transcript.whisperx[6363].text 我已經叫農糧署,就是說後續
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transcript.whisperx[6364].text 如果類似這種短期
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transcript.whisperx[6365].text 大面積復工的時候,我們就應該
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transcript.whisperx[6366].text 去介入去做政策的
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transcript.whisperx[6367].text 引導,不能等到全部的
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transcript.whisperx[6368].text 拆架崩下來的時候,才去做
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transcript.whisperx[6369].text 做一些協助啦,這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[6370].text 我想已經請農糧署在這邊做處理了
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transcript.whisperx[6371].text 現在最主要是說,這兩年
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transcript.whisperx[6372].text 的靠近,那五年
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transcript.whisperx[6373].text 可以穩定,那你剛才說
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transcript.whisperx[6374].text 這兩年最主要,是因為剛才
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transcript.whisperx[6376].text 只要風態來拆,是一定會起的嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6378].text 不會馬上衰落的嘛,對不對
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transcript.whisperx[6379].text 這有它是違規的
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transcript.whisperx[6380].text 邏輯大家都很清楚嘛,但是這兩年
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transcript.whisperx[6381].text 不是這樣耶,這兩年的風態都是
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transcript.whisperx[6382].text 連續來的啦,我們過去
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transcript.whisperx[6383].text 幾乎在小英政府執政的時候
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transcript.whisperx[6384].text 幾乎沒什麼颱風啊
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transcript.whisperx[6387].text 如果因為是這樣,沒有關係
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transcript.whisperx[6388].text 那個都是短期一次性的
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transcript.whisperx[6389].text 那相對的上,上來以後
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transcript.whisperx[6390].text 下來以後,也不會降得很低啦
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transcript.whisperx[6391].text 這次是太連續的,而且很多
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transcript.whisperx[6392].text 很多連續的颱風造成
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transcript.whisperx[6393].text 沒有不對,你現在說你
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transcript.whisperx[6394].text 有擇層,農民署就是
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transcript.whisperx[6396].text 但是到底是怎樣的因應嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6397].text 因為到現在第一波都沒有下出
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transcript.whisperx[6398].text 所以這兩年的菜市場
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transcript.whisperx[6399].text 一直賣到這種程度,你不光賣菜啦
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transcript.whisperx[6400].text 賣零仔啦
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transcript.whisperx[6401].text 保險杯啦
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transcript.whisperx[6402].text 不管賣菜,頂就對了,我說不完啦
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transcript.whisperx[6403].text 我以前也有特別說
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transcript.whisperx[6404].text 強調說,我們跟沒有主食
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transcript.whisperx[6405].text 我們都可以把台北的
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transcript.whisperx[6406].text 這個廢料結合
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transcript.whisperx[6407].text 穩定住,其他民間
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transcript.whisperx[6408].text 廢料一直去,農業一直去
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transcript.whisperx[6409].text 住宅一直去
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transcript.whisperx[6410].text 這個政治的農民的採集
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transcript.whisperx[6411].text 還真是極
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transcript.whisperx[6412].text 林步差勁公
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transcript.whisperx[6413].text 部長,你的應變速度算很快嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6414].text 農民,你現在要讓農民
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transcript.whisperx[6415].text 可以減輕負擔
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transcript.whisperx[6416].text 讓我們把貨寄到達一些
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transcript.whisperx[6417].text 但是他們一直收入一直不好
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transcript.whisperx[6418].text 甚至都比新聞更加多
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transcript.whisperx[6419].text 這個狡猾的政治
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transcript.whisperx[6420].text 農民怎麼有錢可以來交這個
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transcript.whisperx[6421].text 我跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[6422].text 現在目前短時間要去處理
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transcript.whisperx[6423].text 可能就是說,我們要更精準的
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transcript.whisperx[6424].text 去了解就是說,因為
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transcript.whisperx[6425].text 短期內兩、三天就一輪了
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transcript.whisperx[6426].text 那我們必須在這個時間點
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transcript.whisperx[6427].text 就去做一些調配
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transcript.whisperx[6428].text 不要繼續帶他一蜂窩的
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transcript.whisperx[6429].text 一起來種啦,這個部分用什麼樣的
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transcript.whisperx[6430].text 一個協助,我有請農糧署
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transcript.whisperx[6431].text 現在就趕快規劃,完了以後
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transcript.whisperx[6432].text 我們就可以來處理了
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transcript.whisperx[6433].text 所以我知道特別議會的要求
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transcript.whisperx[6434].text 其實我是說一九月
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transcript.whisperx[6435].text 我拜託一下,可以縮短時間嗎
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transcript.whisperx[6436].text 參銷調節穩定契機
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transcript.whisperx[6437].text 原本就是我們陸業部的職業嘛
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transcript.whisperx[6438].text 拜領燈啊!
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transcript.whisperx[6439].text 那兩天是不是速度可以讓我們
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transcript.whisperx[6440].text 最高的辦法去補充農民
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transcript.whisperx[6441].text 讓農民可以
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transcript.whisperx[6442].text 中暑農業過年底有政府你去挖苦
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transcript.whisperx[6443].text 有政府你去聽
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transcript.whisperx[6444].text 農民現在不是要求很多啦
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transcript.whisperx[6445].text 比他的薪本可以多10%、20%、30%
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transcript.whisperx[6447].text 有時候農民會覺得說,政府你又給我倒三天了
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transcript.whisperx[6448].text 但是你不能讓他一直
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transcript.whisperx[6449].text 比,一直沒辦法每天薪本
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transcript.whisperx[6450].text 這又繼續下去
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transcript.whisperx[6452].text 我了解喔,所以我想
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transcript.whisperx[6453].text 我會後我想這一兩天我會找農民署來談他的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6454].text 那整個規劃我是希望說
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transcript.whisperx[6455].text 能夠把這個價格能夠再
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transcript.whisperx[6456].text 再穩定下來,然後更重要是
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transcript.whisperx[6457].text 後續的價格不要再往下降
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transcript.whisperx[6458].text 這個部分我想我們要來努力
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transcript.whisperx[6459].text 一個禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[6460].text 下禮拜我想我們會
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transcript.whisperx[6461].text 應該有一個方案出來
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transcript.whisperx[6462].text 好,謝謝部長
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transcript.whisperx[6463].text 第二件事情,就是希望可以
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transcript.whisperx[6464].text 以你們設立國家級的
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transcript.whisperx[6465].text 豐野的精短
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transcript.whisperx[6467].text 這個部分我雖然跟部長後勤都再拜
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transcript.whisperx[6468].text 我想這對於
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transcript.whisperx[6469].text 我們是一個農業大館來說
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transcript.whisperx[6470].text 不管是
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transcript.whisperx[6472].text 還是這個農業的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6473].text 都可以說是全國統大中
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transcript.whisperx[6474].text 這個不只是
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transcript.whisperx[6477].text 對台灣的農業
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transcript.whisperx[6478].text 絕對是非常加密
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transcript.whisperx[6479].text 而且是台灣的影響
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transcript.whisperx[6480].text 我不知道這個鏡頭現在是怎樣
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transcript.whisperx[6482].text 對這個議題的重視
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transcript.whisperx[6483].text 因為豐林是我們最大的農業的產生產地
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transcript.whisperx[6484].text 但是並沒有一個
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transcript.whisperx[6485].text 很好的一個檢驗意的中心
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transcript.whisperx[6486].text 所以委員
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transcript.whisperx[6488].text 要求農業部應該要成立一個國家級的
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transcript.whisperx[6490].text 在豐林設置
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transcript.whisperx[6491].text 我告訴你,這個紀委已經送進來了
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transcript.whisperx[6492].text 然後我們也送到國安會
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transcript.whisperx[6493].text 再審議了
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transcript.whisperx[6494].text 應該能夠順利的通過
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transcript.whisperx[6495].text 能夠在今年就能夠
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transcript.whisperx[6497].text 我的目標大概六月之前能夠核定
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transcript.whisperx[6498].text 那核定了以後
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transcript.whisperx[6499].text 就讓我們的雲林的地區有一個更好的
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transcript.whisperx[6501].text 來協助我們地方的農產品
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transcript.whisperx[6502].text 確保我們的地方農產品的安全
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transcript.whisperx[6503].text 這不只是對豐林
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transcript.whisperx[6504].text 其實是對全國,因為畢竟是一個國家級的
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transcript.whisperx[6506].text 這個國家級的,一般的價值非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[6508].text 重要的五個目標
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transcript.whisperx[6509].text 還有很多的公共性
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transcript.whisperx[6511].text 蒜頭,湯海
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transcript.whisperx[6512].text 再來就是,我知道特別說
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transcript.whisperx[6514].text 它是不是有相關的一些
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transcript.whisperx[6518].text 如果再拖下去
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transcript.whisperx[6521].text 的這樣的一個位階
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transcript.whisperx[6522].text 是何其諷刺
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transcript.whisperx[6523].text 所以我現在特別拜託部長,是不是趕快速度
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transcript.whisperx[6524].text 你,甚至是不是可以再提早
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transcript.whisperx[6525].text 那你今年,看你第三個月就對了
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transcript.whisperx[6526].text 就可以趕快來準備
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transcript.whisperx[6527].text 來幫你發包
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transcript.whisperx[6528].text 我夠靈活
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transcript.whisperx[6529].text 我們整個的價位
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transcript.whisperx[6530].text 是116到120
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transcript.whisperx[6531].text 但是在115的部分
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transcript.whisperx[6532].text 我一定確保,它一定能夠在
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transcript.whisperx[6533].text 看個年終的時候會通過
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transcript.whisperx[6534].text 通過以後,開始設計規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6535].text 然後如果順利的話,我想應該是
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transcript.whisperx[6536].text 可以達到設計規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6537].text 完成的階段
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transcript.whisperx[6538].text 行政院有支持嗎?行政院支持的
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transcript.whisperx[6540].text 對,所以我在想
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transcript.whisperx[6541].text 甚至於我可以先用其他的經費
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transcript.whisperx[6542].text 讓它做前期的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[6543].text 這樣的話,也許能夠把時間再縮短
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transcript.whisperx[6544].text 應該預算規模高達
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transcript.whisperx[6545].text 10億以上
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transcript.whisperx[6546].text 10億以上,對不對?
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transcript.whisperx[6547].text 所以拜託部長,我們掛一下
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transcript.whisperx[6548].text 我來掛一下
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transcript.whisperx[6549].text 是不是可以再,如期的在年底前
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transcript.whisperx[6550].text 我如果先提供一些先期的規劃的話
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transcript.whisperx[6551].text 後續的發包時程可以壓縮
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transcript.whisperx[6552].text 謝謝,謝謝部長
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transcript.whisperx[6553].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[6554].text 謝謝劉姓委員壓縮令人感動的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[6555].text 好,葉委員,王雁祥
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transcript.whisperx[6556].text 王雁祥不在,葉院長
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transcript.whisperx[6557].text 葉院長不在
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transcript.whisperx[6558].text 根據發言委員除不在場之外
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transcript.whisperx[6559].text 區域軍委發言完畢,我們巡邏結束
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transcript.whisperx[6560].text 由委員徐欣瑩所提出面諮詢列入記錄
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transcript.whisperx[6561].text 刊登公報
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transcript.whisperx[6562].text 由書面諮詢以及未及答复部份
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transcript.whisperx[6563].text 請相關單位於一週內以書面答复
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transcript.whisperx[6564].text 並複製本會
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transcript.whisperx[6565].text 為另要求期限者,從其所定
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transcript.whisperx[6566].text 本日所列議程處理完畢
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transcript.whisperx[6567].text 謝謝大家,現在三會
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transcript.whisperx[6568].text 好,辛苦了
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transcript.whisperx[6569].text 下禮拜三民保82721
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transcript.whisperx[6570].text 看看
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