| IVOD_ID |
17217 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17217 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-22T08:33:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-22T10:27:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
01:53:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a6094fbd83b8c694246a7a13abca19c90ea4e692bdb9a1e47977a16f0309d532c78d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第3次全院委員會（事由：審查委員傅崐萁等60人及委員黃國昌等59人分別對賴清德總統提出彈劾案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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08:33:28 - 10:27:00 |
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那這個美國憲法跟所謂的Federal Paper聯邦論裡面都講到很重要的一塊也就是說沒有被監督的權力是很容易貪腐的所以拒絕監督就是拒絕制衡那在我們亞洲第一個民主共和國中華民國在這別開生命的場面裡面 |
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1679.318 |
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1686.148 |
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我就想請教賴清德總統你願不願意接受邀請來立法院做國情報告 |
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1694.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1708.94 |
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正確條文第四條已經有明訂,就是立法院在集會期間得邀請總統做國情之人表示發動的機關是立法院,所以如果立法院有邀請的話,當然我一定會應立法院的邀請到立法院來 |
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1710.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1729.977 |
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那另外我也要利用這個時間澄清一下剛剛侯市長說我不願意到立法院接受這個立法院的這個國情諮詢這是錯的這個是假訊息因為根據不管是根據憲法或是根據立法院職權行使法總統都有義務應立法院的要求到國會去進行國情報告接受立法委員的國情諮詢 |
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1731.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1732.454 |
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很遺憾的你還是沒來 |
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1755.182 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1777.142 |
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各位全國同胞面對立法院的正式邀請賴清德總統不是親自到場說明不是公開說服國人而是用一張公文回覆主張依據憲法法庭判決意旨拒絕前來立法院接受全民的檢視這就是賴清德對自己過去承諾的全面跳票 |
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1778.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1797.273 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
當年競選總統的賴清德說總統有義務來選上後卻說這個義務不存在這樣前後矛盾的態度也讓國人看清楚一件事問題不在憲法怎麼寫而在於賴清德願不願意被監督 |
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1798.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
今天立法院邀請總統列席不是為了政治表演而是因為賴清德總統正在面臨重大的違法與嚴重失職的指控在這樣的情況之下一位自認清白坦蕩的總統理應站出來到國會向全民說明而不是躲在一張公文後面 |
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1820.228 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1831.489 |
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彈劾是憲法賦予立法院在國家元首違法或嚴重失職時所能行使最莊嚴也是最後一道監督的權利 |
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1832.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1859.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
今天賴總統選擇拒絕到立法院報告拒絕面對人民這樣的態度本身就已經構成對台灣民主對憲政責任的傷害這不只是承諾跳票而是對民主監督的迴避更是對國人信任的背棄當行政權不願意被監督立法權不敢監督監察權不想監督時各位同仁 |
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1860.771 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1883.762 |
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我們的憲法就只剩下封面本席今天站在這裡不僅是以一個立法委員的身份而是以一名長期觀察憲政民主制度的知識份子的身份懷著極沉重的心情向立法院提出對賴清德董總的彈劾案這不是政黨的對立這是法治跟人治的決戰 |
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1885.202 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1902.224 |
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在政治學上有一個名詞叫做民選獨裁Electro dictatorship他形容一個領袖雖然透過民主選舉上台但在取得權力之後卻系統性的拆解權力制衡讓法律成為他的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1903.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1929.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
我國憲法第72條規定三讀通過後的法案總統應於收到後10日內公佈這不是權利這是義務然而賴清德總統卻放任行政院長卓榮泰在復議失敗之後依依拒絕一憲法第三條附屬法律導致三讀通過的財政收支劃分法被訴諸之高格 |
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1930.154 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1939.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
行政權居然可以透過不附屬來實質否決國會的立法權這在全世界的憲政民主國家中是前所未有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1941.281 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1961.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
這讓我想到國際之間最典型的例子匈牙利總理奧班奧班同樣透過民主選舉贏得政權然後利用國會多數或行政干預將司法體制政黨化他讓憲法不再是人民保護自由的盾牌而變成了他鞏固權力的利劍 |
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1962.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1989.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
今天賴清德總統正在複製這種傲斑模式在司法上憲法法庭在2025年12月19號的判決竟然只有5名大法官參與評議這嚴重的違背憲法訴訟法至少10人的門檻當大法官可以自己解釋沒來開會的適同缺額時這已經不是法律審判這已經是動用行政權的家法 |
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1990.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2014.938 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
在政治上都用黨職跟政黨機器發動大罷免試圖以民粹壓力來癱瘓立法權這跟奧班排擠反對派削弱國會監督的手段如出一策為什麼我們必須要啟動彈劾因為賴總統的行為已經符合嚴重失職跟違法的法律要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
2016.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
2040.105 |
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毀憲亂政拒絕公布法律是從根基處來摧毀五權分立將立法權化為烏有踐踏司法以政黨色彩濃厚的提名名單塞滿司法院並默許殘缺的憲法法庭做出無效的判決操弄民粹以大罷免來脅迫國會議員讓監督機制失能各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
2045.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2069.422 |
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民主制度最核心的價值就是沒有人可以凌駕法律如果我們不啟動彈劾就等於告訴未來的每一位總統只要你手握行政權控制大法官你就可以無視國會甚至可以把法律當成廢紙賴清德總統他常說他在捍衛台灣民主但是我要正告賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
2071.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2081.539 |
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民主不是你的保護色憲法也不是你的工具書你正帶著台灣走向奧班式的非自由主義民主這是對台灣民主前輩們奮鬥成果的最大踐踏 |
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2088.362 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
2115.803 |
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身為國會分子 身為國會的一份子我們有責任告訴人民我們拒絕清德中我們絕對不接受一個選出的國王我們只接受守法的總統立法院提案彈劾不是為了政治鬥爭而是為了在野火燎原之前為中華民國憲政制度澆上最後一桶防治專制的冷水 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
2117.117 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2125.571 |
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這是一場法治與人治最後的決戰謝謝好 謝謝林委員接下來請翁曉林委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
2148.601 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2164.336 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
主席 各位在場的委員還有媒體先生女士們以及全國的鄉親朋友們大家好今天在我面前有兩座賴清德的人形立牌 |
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2165.097 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2180.755 |
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一個是模仿清光緒皇帝德宗的立牌另一個則是承認中華民國第一任總統但一心一意就想要改制稱帝的袁世凱的立牌我想大家從來沒有想到過 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2181.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2208.365 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
在中華民國成立一百一十五年實施民選總統三十年的今天竟然會出現一位想當皇帝大搞專制集權踐踏國會削弱民主的民選總統麥清德他違憲亂政抗法的行徑讓台灣步向民選獨裁實質戒嚴的道路 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2209.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2225.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
立法院当然不能够对赖清德如此这般的恶行恶状默不吭声做事不管在群体立法委员过半数的支持下立法院是提出了有史以来的第一起总统弹劾案因为我们要告诉赖清德 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2226.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2242.322 |
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別忘記你是人民的仆人人民是你的頭家在代議民主的制度底下尊重國會尊重憲法和立法院通過的法律規定是你身為總統的義務和職責同時我們也要告訴國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2248.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2267.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
賴清德執政不到這兩年近二十個月的時間裡面台灣的自由民主法治秩序是迅速的崩壞如果我們還繼續沉默放任不理那麼台灣這幾十年來所建立的民主法治基礎將毀於賴清德之手 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2269.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2292.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
上周立法院召开弹劾赖清德总统的公听会与会的许多的专家学者都列举了赖清德总统的罪状他们批评赖清德违反宪法忠诚义务破坏权力分立制度滥用公权力打压异己这些都不是夸大其词而是真真实实的发生在我们的周围 |
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2293.496 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2305.133 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
在過去這段時間裡面我們清楚看到賴清德是如何撕裂台灣製造對立如何的破壞民主憲政讓台灣一步一步的走向極權獨裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2307.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2331.877 |
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赖清德他身为中华民国总统理当克尊中华民国宪法的规定尊重权力分立制度所有的施政都应该公开透明并且向人民负责但是他眼中有中华民国宪法吗赖清德竞选的时候曾经说过中华民国宪法是灾难结果当选后他果然把中华民国宪法现在体制搞成是大灾难 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2347.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
首先他將人事案搞成大災難大法官出缺總統就應該依據憲法的規定去提名大法官這不是賴清德的權利而是他的義務但是當他看到大法官提名的審查不順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2349.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2362.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
他这干脆就索性摆烂不再提出新的名单直接让宪法法庭瘫痪而且还放任5人大法官取代15人大法官做成违宪违法的宪法判决 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2364.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2391.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
其次賴清德呢再把法律案搞成了大災難賴清德他自行決定哪些法律要公佈或不公佈哪些法律要執行或者是不執行只要是他不合意的法案他就指使行政院長卓榮泰就申請復議釋憲之後呢更是變本加厲的就不附屬不執行法律根本否定的立法權將代議民主制度的是踩在腳底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2392.506 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2419.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
民進黨委員說這不能怪賴清德這是卓榮泰的事情但是我想任誰都看得很清楚行政院院長卓榮泰不過就是個傀儡他是賴清德總統任命的卓榮泰作為下屬的言行如果今天是違反了上司賴清德總統的意思早就該被換掉了不會留到今天但是我們看到卓榮泰今天還是穩坐行政院院長的這個大位 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2420.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2444.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
由此可見,真正恣意妄為藐視國會出軌破手是賴清德卓榮泰不過就只是個工具人賴清德他更把預算案搞成了大災難依法編列預算本來就是行政機關的責任是憲政民主的ABC從行限至今我們沒有看到哪一任的政府是敢不依法編列預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2444.736 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2472.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
李登辉陈水扁马英九蔡英文不敢做的事情到了赖清德政府他全做了而且他还是公然对抗国会拒绝依法行政编列相关预算我们看看去年中央政府总预算本来该编列给原住民的计法补偿金他当时就没有编列结果今年的又搞同样的把戏不编列居然加挤和提高给锦绍退休金差额的预算 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2473.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2499.553 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
賴清德你是有什麼權力可以在編列預算上面挑三檢四 愛編不編賴清德再把民主自由搞成了大災難他曾經語出驚人的說民主不是表決贏就可以喔 不是喔他又說民主是要千錘百鍊打掉雜質才能夠淬煉出守護民主鋼鐵辦的意志 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2500.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2529.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
去年赖清德发动了全台大罢免说这是更大的民主但是这种反民主反多数的说法难道不就是一个新专制的一个论调吗赖清德执政之后他无限扩大行政权动不动就以国安反渗透抗中保台效忠国家为由来打压已经在台湾落地生根的陆派人权而且还限制了国人的言论表意自由和行动自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2530.677 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2551.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
麦清德他基本上就是处处展现唯我独尊的权力支配欲他不懂得权力的分享他不知道作为少数政府的谦卑总统从来麦清德他从来不想与在野党和解更不想与在野党合作好让台湾人民生活的更安定更安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2552.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2577.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
他只是一心一意的想要清洗異己打掉雜質奪回政權來實現他的皇帝夢今天立法院在這裡提出了賴清德的總統的彈劾案基本上就是要警告那個無法無天藐視民意獨裁中橫的賴清德不要再一意孤行執迷不悟了 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2578.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
此外呢也要提醒全国的老百姓我们不要忘记历史的教训因为独裁者是不会有怜悯之心的掌控权力的人他一旦没有了制衡的力量就像是一头失控的野兽 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2598.203 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2613.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
当我们看到赖清德对台湾宪政体制展开了一连串的攻击时我们必须要及时的回击及时的反击绝对不能够姑息软弱妥协 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2614.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2630.364 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
否則台灣的憲政法治體制終將崩解成為廢紙一張而我們得來不易的自由民主也將邁向死亡所以在此我們以非常嚴正而且非常沉重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2631.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2638.029 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
心情在今天說出為什麼我們要彈劾賴清德總統的這些理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2661.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2661.705 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
以上,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2685.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2707.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
主席 各位學者 專家 各位同仁還有關心中華民國憲政體制的國人同胞 大家好民主法治國家依照分權制衡的憲政原理國會當然為總統的監督機關當總統的行為已出現系統性的侵犯立法權否定國會的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2709.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
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踐踏權力分立的制衡機制國會如果不採取相對應的制衡以此捍衛國會的尊嚴以及伸張憲政上的權益那才是真正的失職有負於人民的選票寄託 |
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依照憲法的規定總統違法亂紀的行為是透過彈劾來制衡此次總統的行為涉及侵犯憲政秩序必須透過彈劾來發動彈劾的憲政行動來加以反制依照立法院的職權行使法總統彈劾案經立法委員二分之一的連署提議提交程序委員會編列一層提報院會 |
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不經討論及交全院委員會來審查在審查時得邀請總統列席說明透過總統必須親自面對國會此一程序可以充分彰顯國會是總統的憲政監督的一個角色 |
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不容總統反過來踐踏立法權您為著是今非的萊爾校長也不願面對國會的制衡監督到立法院面對立法委員的質詢彈劾案與表決是以無記名方式進行相當程度可以讓立法委員的意志免於受總統的夾持有利國會自主意志的呈現 |
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賴清德總統在2024年總統大選僅獲得40%的得票率雖然在該次選舉中其得票為相對多數而單選但是賴政府就任後執政黨在沒有獲得過半 |
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過半的民意並且在國會也沒有獲得多數席次的情況下竟然超越人民的三觀不顧民主法制的運行只顧鬥爭不顧民生只憑選舉無心治理從發動青鳥包圍立法院煽動社會對立發動大罷免 |
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2870.435 |
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選不贏就翻桌發動國家機器用司法打壓打擊在野黨對政敵實行清算的行動發動網軍對於不同意見的人進行打擊種種令人髮指的綠色恐怖行為就是要讓反對的聲音消失並且一再意圖將黑手深入國會擾亂國會監督制衡的功能 |
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2889.902 |
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韓國前總統尹錫悅的案例應見不遠多少有事之士均認為今日的尹錫悅很有可能就是明日的賴清德我們翻開過去的歷史遂行專制獨裁的總統最後都不會有好的下場 |
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2917.713 |
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今天對賴清德總統提出彈劾案的全院委員會完全不是因為政治對立而是因為憲政失序已成為一個事實的問題當總統遂行專制獨裁成為事實彈劾就是制衡而彈劾毀憲亂政的總統更是獲得人民選票授權所組成的國會的一個重大的責任跟義務 |
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這輛毀憲亂政的私塑列車正在橫衝直撞破壞我國的憲政體制國會必須貫徹憲法所賦予的權利義務絕對不能放任置之不理在民主憲政的國家當中當立法院依法通過的法律與預算案長期無法被貫徹執行請問總統及行政院長不用被究責嗎 |
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這是國家治理民主法制被踐踏無法實現的一個現在進行式的一個問題憲法明確的規定立法院三讀通過的法律總統依法應予以公佈立法院通過的預算行政院依法予以執行這不是行政裁量權也不是行政選擇權這是憲政義務行政機關及總統的憲政義務 |
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2996.067 |
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既然是憲政義務為什麼我們看到一步步的法律公布了卻可以不附屬不執行預算通過了卻可以不編列請問行政院為什麼可以如此專善獨行不履行憲法的義務與責任能夠如此置以萬為選擇這個迴憲亂政不作為 |
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3026.089 |
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關於我國憲政框架所設計關於總統的角色有人說這些都是行政院的事與總統無關但必須提醒我們國人同胞這種說法根本就是違背憲法的精神行政院長是總統提名的也是總統的幕僚長聽命於總統賴清德總統你可以躲在幕後不想負責嗎 |
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這是什麼鬼話憲法第44條寫得非常清楚總統對於願記爭議有調解之權請問當立法院與行政院之間已出現長期結構性的對立總統有沒有啟動過正式的願記協商有沒有會議記錄有沒有公開說明 |
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有沒有任何可以讓人民檢驗的作為如果答案都是沒有那我們必須很嚴肅的譴責這不僅是失能根本就是消極的不作為我國現在的狀態是什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
3079.659 |
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總統是少數民意基礎行政院在立法院也沒有獲得穩定多數的支持但行政路線完全不調整政治責任完全不承擔請教支持政府立場的學者有責任政治的概念嗎 |
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3107.474 |
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權力與責任可以長期的不對等嗎如果行政院長已經無法對立法院負責改組內閣是不是一種政治選項如果總統拒絕改組拒絕協商拒絕調整卻一味要求國會不要干擾施政那國會存在的意義是什麼國會還有什麼存在的必要只能貫徹萊爾校長的得意志嗎 |
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今天我們提出彈劾案不是因為國會親率使用我們憲政的工具恰恰相反是因為其他的工具都已經失靈了五位大法官可以把五大於六這樣的一個數字概念都沒有的五位可以說毫無憲政概念的大法官可以擅自啟動憲法法庭做出憲法判決 |
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行政院可以不附屬國會三讀通過的法律可以禁止宣布法律違憲這種種荒腔走板的跡象既然毫無制衡機制既然可以完全沒有協商機制政治責任沒有人承擔在這種情況下國會還剩下什麼方式可以對一個實質破壞憲政運作的狀態依選法理來提出制度性的回應及監督制衡的必要手段 |
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今天這個彈劾案的啟動不是要實行審判而是要問一個制度的問題當行政不服從立法總統不調解衝突那憲法到底是人民的保障還是權力的裝飾品 |
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如果連這個問題我們都不敢面對那才是真正對民主、對行政、對人民的不負責任所以要求我們、拜託我們所有的國人同胞大家這次一定要支持我們在野黨這次所提出的彈劾案以上謝謝大家 謝謝謝謝林委員下一位請陳金輝委員發言 |
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主席在場的各位委員還有我們全國正在收看電視的國人同胞請大家看看我手上的這張紙這個是總統府給立法院的正式回函全中華民國的最高民意機關立法院依據人民的託付邀請賴清德總統來做國情報告 |
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3245.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
3259.399 |
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結果我們換來的是什麼是一張冰冷的A4紙篇幅甚至不到幾句啊四句而已寥寥數句丟下一句立法院無權對我問責然後告訴我們說他不來了 |
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3279.593 |
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賴清德這種獨斷的理由大家可能覺得似曾相識沒錯賴清德的位子雖然變了但是他那個獨斷獨裁逃避監督的本性一分一秒終其一生都沒有變過 |
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3281.015 |
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3297.507 |
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他不只是一位少數總統現在更徹底成了一位消失的總統各位還記得嗎當年在台南賴清德擔任市長的時候面對嚴峻的登革熱疫情市民受苦他選擇了什麼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3319.113 |
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他選擇整整232天不進議會連他自己同黨的民進黨議員都看不下去因為他們無法為他們的選民發聲無法問政他個人的固執冷血導致當時的市政空轉也無視於人民痛苦 |
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3320.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
3343.442 |
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如今歷史正在全國重演而且後果更加嚴重選前賴清澤在他自己的政見發表會上信誓旦旦的承諾總統有義務因立法院要求到國會進行國情報告接受立委的國情諮詢選後他所有的承諾都變成了廢紙 |
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| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
3366.812 |
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重大的政策他不來國會講卻跑到國外的媒體去做投書他寧願躲在他自己的同溫層取暖也不願意面對代表民意的國會這種選前騙票選後跳票的行為完全暴露了他性格中的兩大特質 |
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就是極度的偏執還有極度的懦弱他只喜歡聽阿諛奉承他的話只想講他自己愛講的一旦需要面對質疑他就選擇消失或者躲在我們行政院長的背後 |
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| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
3405.66 |
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大家還記得他發動全台大二霸的時候曾經高調宣傳的團結國家十獎嗎?這個本來是用來讓他個人耍帥的舞台結果呢這個團結十場秀啊不到一半就變成了笑話 |
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3425.591 |
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首先他對民生疾苦毫無知覺無視通膨這麼的嚴重多少民眾過著入不敷出的現實竟然找了企業社團問大家說一萬塊可以做什麼要求台下的聽眾附和他 |
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| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
3441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
台下聽眾還說一萬塊買菜一兩次就沒了賴清德總統還質問說為什麼要發這筆錢呢這種不知民間疾苦的發言令人感到心寒 |
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| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
3461.816 |
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但最後大家看看民進黨不但被逼著要執行普發一萬還無恥地收割說是自己的政績人民的眼睛是雪亮的全民傻眼啊再來我幫他摘要一下他前四講的金句 |
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| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
3491.186 |
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第一講他大談台灣的獨立生態把萌馬象當成台灣原生物種被考古學家善笑第二講他嘴巴說團結實際上卻在搞內鬥大家都看得很清楚只要不是賴系哪怕是民進黨自家的同仁也被視為雜質要打掉雜質第三講更是荒謬 |
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3492.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
3516.512 |
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國家元首竟然公然的扭曲歷史說1946年制憲沒有台灣人參加被打臉之後新聞稿才默默的刪改更好笑的是賴總統居然在我們這樣子的民主國家說出不是表決多數贏就可以了不是這樣 |
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3518.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
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直接否認民主的基本原則這句話現在連全國的小學生聽完都會模仿善笑他然後第四講之後呢就沒有了第五講該講外交第六講說要兩岸一直到第十講均衡台灣通通消失了為什麼不講了 |
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因為他根本就講不出來他沒有扶國立民沒有善意只剩下一個阿爸的總統他的施政充滿了矛盾與謊言看看國防國防條例只有兩面的A4紙不跟全民說錢要花到哪裡去一邊口口聲聲說台灣的自我防禦要靠國軍 |
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3568.926 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
3584.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
結果我們在野黨要增加預算增加軍人的薪水時財政部跳出來說如此會危害國家財政紀律不可以給國軍加那麼多薪水再看看民防民進黨高喊 |
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3585.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
3605.647 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
全社會任性有多重要的時候在野黨想要幫警消加薪提高他們的生活待遇讓這些第一線守護民眾的公務人員更有感更有動機結果賴清德同樣說不行他們不想執行不編預算甚至申請大法官釋憲來阻擋 |
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3607.867 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
3635.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
外交至今還在迷航我們連國家元首什麼時候可以過境美國出訪邦交國都沒辦法確定最嚴重的是國內已經沒有民主了因為國會多數通過的條文根本不算數賴政府有一萬個理由置之不理行政單位不執行行政院長不附屬更可怕的是他擁有了完美的政治打手 |
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3636.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
3658.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
行政機關違法不執行沒關係因為有司法院的大法官會排隊幫他宣告法律違憲國會要行使調查權要開聽證會監督弊案大法官說這是違憲這是監察院的職權那我們就回來看看監察院做了什麼請問監察院在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
3659.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
3688.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
陳菊領導的監察院根本沒在做事負責彈劾官員糾正行政缺失的監察院長大家看看他已經消失了九個多月沒有上班了行政權獨大立法權被閹割司法權淪為政治打手監察權徹底的癱瘓所有的煞車機制都被拆除所有的監督管道都被堵死 |
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3689.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
3702.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
各位國人同胞我們現在面對的賴清德已經是一頭不受控的憲法怪獸了他集結了行政霸權把民進黨黨團變成他的護衛隊讓司法院自願參加政治鬥爭 |
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3707.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
3729.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
在這個體制下官員貪污舞弊都沒有關係因為沒人可查政策跳票也沒關係因為沒人可問這就是威權富庇我們擺在這邊的兩個牌子就是要讓國人知道賴清德總統的所作所為就是讓自己變成現代版的賴士凱 |
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3732.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
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當一個總統可以無視法律逃避國會踐踏他自己對國人的承諾讓五權憲法變成他一個人的權利遊戲我們如果再沉默就是共犯為什麼在野黨要提出彈劾是因為賴清德的暴行逆施已經創下我國憲政史上的惡例任何有在看新聞 瀏覽社群 |
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感受社會脈動的民眾都知道這股憤怒與不安只有執政黨還在裝沒事問說為什麼要彈劾這證明他們與民意有多麼的脫節為了捍衛憲法尊嚴為了不讓台灣墜落下獨裁的深淵我們在這邊鄭重呼籲全體國人支持 |
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彈劾賴清德總統讓我們用憲法賦予的權力終止現在正在發生的這場憲政災難把國家還給我們全體人民謝謝大家好謝謝陳委員下一位請黃建斌委員發言 |
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主席各位立法院同仁全體國民同胞大家好我是台東縣立法委員黃建斌今天我們站在這裡不是因為政黨之間的輸贏而是為了回答一個全體國人都有權利知道的問題那就是為什麼賴清德總統必須被彈劾先做結論因為 |
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本應該作為人民公僕對全民負責的賴清德總統已經變成一位失職失能失德甚至消失的誓師總統所以面對憲政失衡行政難權立法院依據憲法賦予的重要職權啟動對總統的彈劾審查就是為了阻止賴清德總統鑽斷獨裁的必要手段這也是身為民意代表的我們 |
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必須為人民挺身而出的責任與義務接下來我要告訴全體國人賴清德如何成為一位事實的總統第一 拒絕依法行政藐視民意監督這是失職憲法的基本基本是什麼不是執政者權力最大化而是權責對等依法行政相互制衡 |
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立法院是人民選出來的最高民意機關立法院三讀通過的法案不是執政者的參考意見而是政府必須遵守依法執行的鐵律這更是確保中華民國民主法治穩定政府依法行政百姓奉公守法的重要基石但是在賴清德總統任內我們看到一個非常非常危險的現象 |
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賴清德總統向全世界宣告立法院三讀通過的法律只要不喜歡就可以不附屬不公布不執行不僅如此立法院三讀通過的軍人加薪警消退休所得替代率提高等法案行政院也拒絕依法編列預算如此一來 |
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執政者將憑個人的喜好自行決定哪些法律要執行哪些法律不要執行政府更將不用理會人民的意見凌駕在立法以及司法權之上未來所有的事情就只有執政者說了算這將造成我國憲政史上史無前例的崩壞而這一切最大最大的元兇就是躲在行政院後面躲在民進黨立委後面的賴清德 |
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但沒有踩煞車反而是主導這樣毀憲亂政的行為這樣的總統已經背棄了憲政義務背棄了民主精神背棄了人民的託付這就是赤裸裸的失職總統第二意識形態治國導致國家空轉這是失能 |
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過去一年台灣面臨關稅戰的危險區域情勢的升溫最需要的是什麼我們最需要的是穩定的治理是經濟的復甦是社會的修補是面對國際變局的冷靜應對但是賴清德總統選擇的路線是什麼 |
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他不是團結國人他更不是謙卑傾聽而是意識形態掛帥製造仇恨對立在國家內部找敵人甚至把不同意見的人都當作敵人只要再讓監督預算就會被抹黑抹紅只要質疑政策疏失就被貼上不愛台灣的標籤甚至都會網軍側翼大勢的出征連無辜的老百姓都不放過 |
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如今的台灣只要民進黨不開心任何人都會變成中共同路人這樣的結果是什麼是政府無心推動政策只想用鬥爭手段來打垮在野黨打壓反對的意見製造社會充滿仇恨人民之間充滿的對立國家陷入空轉 |
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一位合格的總統應該是在分歧中找出共識而不是帶頭煽風點火一位有能力的總統應該是確保國家穩定向前而不是深陷鬥爭與內耗很遺憾身兼總統的賴清德只剩下意識形態跟仇恨口號卻沒有合格的治理能力賴清德就是一個失能的總統 |
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第三 帶頭主導惡意罷免 造成社會撕裂 這是失德賴清德不只是國家元首 他也是執政黨的當主席但他卻親自站上第一線 主導全國大惡霸目的就只有一個 把監督的聲音全部抹殺 |
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結果如何 這場史無前例的全國大罷免 迎來全面大失敗32比0的結果 代表全國人民用選票 重重甩了賴清德總統一巴掌但問題是 大惡霸雖然結束 台灣社會卻留下許多難以抹滅的傷痕父母親女孩子之間 因為惡意的罷免產生的糾紛 |
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朋友與同事之間因為惡意罷免彼此仇恨原本可能友好親密的關係卻因為政治的操弄互相敵視這一切就是賴清澤總統推動惡意罷免對台灣造成的無窮傷害因為總統如果不努力化解對立而是主動製造對立如果不是團結人民而是動員人民互相攻擊那他 |
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已經失去了國家領袖應有的操守品格就是一個失德的總統第四面對民意的監督賴清德選擇逃避消失賴清德因為失職失能失德所以創下中華民國三個史上第一史上第一個被國會提案通過彈劾的總統史上第一個當市長被彈劾當總統也被彈劾的民選首長 |
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更是史上第一個不願意面對民意選擇消失在人民面前逃避彈劾審查的總統立法院依法啟動彈劾審查這是憲政體制中最嚴肅最慎重的問責機制賴清德競選時也承諾願意到立法院就國家大政方針及重要政策議題進行國情報告並接受立法委員之諮詢 |
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但是如今全民等到的只有我背後那張空蕩蕩的椅子賴清德選擇放鳥全國國民只用一紙公文冷冷的告訴國會你們沒有權利向我問責 |
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當年的台南市長賴清德創下台市長不進議會被選的惡例如今的總統賴清德不進國會接受彈劾審查賴清德改變的位置傲慢的本性卻沒有改變這已經不是態度的問題而是對國家憲政體制的公然挑戰對民意監督的藐視我們更要擔心的是一位面對人民質疑選擇逃避的總統要如何說服人民他會在國家面對危機時挺身而出 |
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還是又會直接消失棄人民於不顧最後我要再一次的告訴全體國人彈劾不是政黨之間的輸贏而是憲法留給人民的防火牆這一次的彈劾案將寫入中華民國的歷史告誡所有的執政者當權力越過紅線的時候國會絕對會克盡職責制衡霸權當一個總統失職失能失德又消失的時候人民絕對不會保持沉默 |
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為了中華民國的民主法治我們絕對會堅持到底請賴清德總統睜大雙眼看清楚人民的怒火已經熄火燎原請賴清德記住自己說過的話人民這是老家不要因為你的傲慢獨裁讓台灣變成輸家以上謝謝好 謝謝黃委員下一位請游皓委員發言 |
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主席 各位同仁 各位國人同胞今天這場討論 這場彈劾對台灣來講 並不是什麼光榮的時刻首先 要在這裡先清楚的說明一件事不是因為有人提出彈劾 國家才開始出現問題而是這個問題已經真正的嚴重到不能再多彈劾才會被擺上桌面來談 |
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今天的這場彈劾不能只是走一個形式開來交差也不是只是各講各的政治立場因為我們現在在面對的早就已經不是單一政策對不對也不是哪一個政黨跟政黨之間的吵架而是總統在權力的實際運作中有沒有已經明顯的失去平衡這已經變成一個憲政上的大警訊如果在這個時候還選擇輕輕帶過 |
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不把話講清楚那變成就是真正的對民主不負責任在這裡要基本的把憲政程序再說一次照憲法的規定立法院三讀通過法律後行政院如果不同意可以提復議但復議一旦失敗接下來只剩一條路附屬公布實行憲法裡面沒有說可以拒絕附屬 |
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沒有說可以卡住公布也沒有說可以把政治問題一路的丟給司法去拖但現在發生的事就是整個流程已經被硬生生的卡住了已經合法通過的法律被卡在附屬與公布之間變成只存在紙上的法律變成好看的擺飾品各位國民們這不是什麼法律技術正義這是整個憲政流程已經被完整的中斷 |
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很多人一直在把問題簡化成一句話行政院到底可不可以不附屬行政院不附屬新版的財化法讓朝野陷入僵局讓地方的財政出現問題過去這個財化法也是在民進黨在野期間一直在推動現在通過的財化法反而是民進黨他藉由行政院他來不附屬造成地方財政的困擾賴清德總統在這個期間卻躲了起來 |
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他還肯定了行政院卓榮泰一憲法不予附屬說這種叫做捍衛民主憲政真是荒唐行政院更宣布未來法案還有所謂的不附屬三原則這種行為已經根本的公然違憲公然的窮台亂台甚至毀台 |
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這件事情最大的問題當行政院拒絕附屬還因此引發那麼大的憲政爭議時賴清德總統你人在哪裡照責任政治的原則行政院要負行政責任總統要負憲法上的最終責任如果行政院的做法已經動搖到整個制度總統賴清德還選擇不介入不說明不澄清也不協調那試問 |
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賴清德總統到底是在監督行政院還是在幫行政院擋子彈今天可以把話再講明白走到了彈劾這一步不是因為哪一個政策的路線選錯而是在制度真的出現裂縫的時候賴清德總統選擇整個人消失他讓國會跟行政院全面對撞他在過程中沒有角色 |
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附屬爭議鬧到憲政學界都在警告的時候賴清德沒有出來說明權力分立已經明顯出現問題的時候賴清德也沒有任何的裁釋賴清德總統好像以為只要他不講話事情就會過去就會清清帶過但在這裡要提醒賴清德憲政危機不是新聞 |
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他造成的憲政危機他不會自己下架甚至還有人幫賴清的辯護說只要高度夠高就不要介入衝突在這裡要清楚的說高速不是躲遠一點高度是要出來承擔真正有高度的總統是在制度快要斷裂的時候要站出來補動 |
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不是在制度垮掉的時候轉身離場躲在後面如果不出面這種就叫做高度那歷史上所有失職的領導人都可以說他們很冷靜 |
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也有人說這是賴清德的治理風格但是在這裡要提醒大家提醒國民憲法從來就不承認什麼叫做不作為風格憲法給總統的從來不是選項是責任不是今天高不高興而是該不該做 |
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一個總統如果長期的不召集不協調不說明對重大憲政永遠保持著模糊對制度的衝突一律的冷處理這不叫風格角色錯置這根本的職務怠慢 |
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而且這也不是一次兩次的意外這是整套刻意模糊責任躲政治責任的治理模式在這一年從國安政策兩岸路線外交立場到爭議很大的能源及產業政策大家看到的是賴清德出來定調此方向但是當整個行政體系出現問題的時候民怨起來民怨沸騰 |
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立法院要他們責任說明的時候賴清德馬上就退回一句叫做行政院負責久而久之這樣子固定的一個模式權力是賴清德總統在享用風險是行政院在扛但是最後的結果最後的傷害卻是全民買單第二個很嚴重的問題當國會監督被系統性的弱化 |
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立法院要資料要官員到場要政策說明本來就是民意代表在民主上最基本民主的運作但是我們現在看到不斷的是資料在拖官員說明在閃甚至責任層層的往下推 |
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更糟的是當政治語言把正常的監督講成是政治鬥爭再扯後腿如果行政體系在這樣的氣氛之下把監督當作敵人把制衡當作阻礙那請問一下權力的分立在現實的社會中民主社會下還剩下多少 |
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今天要再清楚的講一件常被搞混的事彈劾並不是刑法制度是政治責任制度它的目的並不是抓壞人而是避免一個已經不適任的人繼續站著關鍵的憲政位置 |
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如果一位總統放任著行政權跟立法權全面對撞卻不願意出來調和讓憲政正義一拖再拖讓人民開始懷疑這個國家到底有沒有人在負責那本身就已經是一重大的失職 |
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很誠實的跟在座各位報告當權力越來越集中但是責任卻一層一層一層被切掉的時候如果監督一再被弱化制度被政治語言掩蓋如果社會的信任一直流失卻沒有人願意出來扛那還不能啟動彈劾的討論嗎那彈劾制度到底什麼時候要用什麼時候才用我們到底要一個什麼樣的總統 |
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過去這兩年賴清德他只出現在選舉場合上拉著準備的選舉的候選人喊著加油喊著動算只在意自己的政治生涯跟地位但人民的怒吼賴清德總統聽不見我們只有看到賴清德黨主席 |
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我要再次強調彈劾不是定罪而是啟動憲政的自救機制真正傷害民族的從來不是討論彈劾而是在權力明顯適應的時候大家的動作沒看見如果只是走程序那就是對憲法交代不過去立法院必須誠實面對一個問題我們必須要守住憲法還是選擇向權力低頭 |
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對賴清德也表態說台灣被推向立法濫權在野獨裁的懸崖邊緣這一個論點我們必須反而要清楚的來同意鄭麗文主席所說在野黨沒有辦法獨裁賴清德沒有民主素養甚至鬧國際笑話國人都為此感到蒙羞 |
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很清楚的這些話這樣有政治壓力但沒有問題因為我們都清楚如果連立法委員在這個時刻都不敢把話講清楚那人民要怎麼相信這個制度還有自我修正的能力所以我們堅定的啟動賴清德總統的彈劾討論這個沒有任何的仇恨這是捍衛制度因為 |
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我們選擇站在憲法這一邊沒有任何人可以凌駕在憲法之上在這場彈劾的討論所有的民眾要拜託各位一起與我們在野黨的立委站在一起因為在這場彈劾討論我們都必須要讓全國人民知道賴清德總統的不施任不作為大家一起支持彈劾好 謝謝謝謝永浩委員 |
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所以請廖偉祥委員發言 |
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主席各位同仁各位媒體先生女士還有全體的國民今天要用最沉重的心情和我們的國人一起來面對中華民國史上非常關鍵的一刻也是中華民國歷史上繼李宗仁代總統之後第二次的總統彈劾案也是立法院行使第一次的總統彈劾案審查會 |
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老實說今天本來就沒有期望賴總統會出席彈劾會的答辯說明但我沒想到總統府居然還特別用書面聲明拒絕參加這樣行為等同於對立法院對國會對於人民嗆聲更是藐視民意而賴總統拒絕出席的理由真的有如總統府辯前上說的那麼理直氣壯嗎 |
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總統府拿113年憲判自第九號來當黨建牌宣稱總統沒有治立院報告的義務但請注意啊該判決是在審查立法院職權刑事法中關於國情報告的常態化機制絕非針對彈劾案審查的出席義務 |
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賴總統錯誤的理解憲法專善獨斷的施政就是造成國家動盪不安的主因根據憲法增修條文第4條以及立法院職權行使法第43條彈劾案是憲法賦予立法院的最高監督權這與國情報告是完全不同的憲政行為賴總統混淆視聽 移花接木 |
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想要藉由法庭的保護傘逃避身為被彈劾的人說明的義務這是對憲法最大的褻瀆立法院邀請賴總統來說明是對於賴總統的尊重但賴清德總統卻仍然選擇不出席不願意遵守憲法與法律在目前朝野高度對立的當下 |
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賴總統更應該來直球對決來前來立法院說明而非以一紙變籤悍然拒絕憲法義務對此我們深感遺憾因此就憲政高度權責對等以及政治和解等各個層面來說都加深了賴清德總統應該被彈劾的正當性 |
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這已經是超越黨派它絕對是國家是民主的大是大非賴總統不來立法院行政院長更是要求總預算 |
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要和國會在野黨直接辯論但大家都忘了嗎問責預算審查權本來就是立法院的權限行政院依法應編卻不編列預算還反過來指責立法院趾高氣揚的嗆聲立法院請問卓院長這是你發明的惡人先告狀嗎還是賴總統指揮你做的 |
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面對這樣無法無理的要求我們在野黨還是很有風度的接求更希望這場憲政鬧劇可以讓全國百姓平平理所以我們要求三場正式的電視公開辯論但行政院卻馬上退縮請問行政院是害怕人民的檢視還是怕人民知道民進黨政府打算獨裁的本質賴清德總統上任以來我只想問大家記得他做過了什麼嗎 |
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你問十個國民會有九個跟你說他在搞大罷免最後一個跟你說他在搞大罷免最後大失敗賴清德總統上任後以打掉雜質為名定期與罷免團體開會聯繫柯建民總召也承認每一週都會向賴清德總統報告罷免進度 |
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側東青鳥側翼撕裂我國人民連行政院長卓榮泰都放下工作開始搞全台罷免大選獎最後還是鬧出了32比0的笑話後仍然不思悔改繼續專斷獨行利用扭曲憲法行政院帶墮執行以及赴議連敗的方式拖累國家進程 |
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我們作為民意代表 作為人民的代表必須在國會殿堂向總統表達人民的不滿與憤怒追究國政空轉一年多的政治責任在這裡我要向國人報告十項彈劾賴清的總統的理由第一 國家體系混亂不只監察院長空缺期職超過一年行政院長越權成為憲法守門人 |
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依照憲政體制行政院應該對於立法院負責但是卓榮泰卻在總統民事之下擅自否定三讀通過的法案公然的踐踏立法院三讀通過的名義淪為總統府的加成還指揮這個憲法指揮這個司法院 |
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第二 |
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多次拋出具爭議的論述兩岸論述卻失守了台海的中線面對中共軍演常態化除了把責任推給在野黨以外沒有任何的反制措施沒有必戰與溝通機制國防部更依據第一線官兵自行判斷就把危險與責任和國家都拋給 |
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甩給基層官兵甚至完全愧對國軍軍購遲遲不到貨之外軍警消的加薪跟退休經營案也不願意依法編列預算不給錢不給裝備可說是徹底的失職啊第三面對美國我們掏空了國庫獻祭了戲盾獻祭了我們的護國身山 |
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賴政府換回的不是安全承諾而是國際媒體公認的不祥之兆根據華盛頓郵報資深記者的評論隨著台積電最尖端的產能被強行移往美國台灣的戲盾已不再是牢不可破 |
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美國政府更已開出期限目標要在2029年實現半導體獨立各位國人知道這代表什麼嗎這代表賴清德總統第一任任期結束時一個不再依賴台灣晶片的美國可能將不再有動機伸手來援助來保護台灣更令人憤怒的是我們交出了2500億美元 |
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相當於8兆台幣的頭期款直接投資結果換來並沒有更好的條件甚至連美方的官員都公然威脅若不能讓供應鏈如期轉移關稅將飆升至100%請問賴清德總統這叫做外交突破嗎這根本是割肉賣台你親手拆掉了台灣的保命符讓國家淪為外國利益的提款機 |
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這難道不是徹底的失職嗎第四執政期間司法淪為政黨的機器徹底失去人民公信力面對一己還沒有掌握實質證據就利用羈押限制他人人身自由而面對在總統府內罪證確鑿的共諜只因為是同派同黨派就能以20萬輕輕的縱放讓國人對司法徹底絕望 |
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7.26大罷免失敗之後第五點賴清德不思悔改宣布2823持續罷免最終一敗塗地堅持把國家資源耗盡最後一刻放任黨機器跟側翼針對在野黨立法委員發動報復性罷免導致社會撕裂國家空轉 |
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第六點惡意抹黑財政收支劃分法更拒絕執行拖累地方過去民進黨收支財劃法修正案是第一優先法案可是呢上任後卻拒絕執行當年自己主張的第一優先法案這是典型的位置換了位置就換了腦袋不給第七點不給地方發展資源反而高舉1.25兆所謂的國防預算卻沒有告訴國人要買什麼什麼時候到貨那 |
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完全這個抵觸了國防自主的初衷除了國家被花錢掏空國庫以外國防產業也沒有獲得顯著的發展第八點賴清德上任前說要興建百萬戶社會住宅現在呢完全的跳票而且進一步的推高房價加重少子化讓國家陷入生不如死的國安危機第九點 |
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廢死跟飛河兩張神主牌謀取政治利益卻把國家打入萬丈深淵第十點上任前說承諾要到國家來國會來進行國情報告但是我們可以看到立法院長旁邊的那一席座位到現在都還是空空的總結賴清德擔任總統到現在的政績就是毀憲亂政喪權辱國民生凋敝 |
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我們面對全球的局勢變化我們沒有內耗的本錢國家更不能因為一個人的食物而影響繼續向前的動力 |
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主席各位委員電視網路前收看轉播的全體國人大家好今天我們要繼續表達為什麼要發起彈劾賴清德總統的原因過去賴清德擔任市長他可以200多天不進議會被彈劾 |
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5659.394 |
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如今的賴清德總統再度違反自己選前的承諾不敢進到國會面對民意一樣的賴清德賴皮誠信 |
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國情報告不來說是違憲聯立法院今天我們依法邀請被彈劾人賴清德到現場他也一樣不敢來不敢來也就不敢來了但他卻又在胡扯說是因為會違憲而不來 |
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5701.154 |
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在選舉的時候是務實的台獨工作者中華民國中華民國憲法都是災難但選上總統以後開口閉口就把中華民國的憲法當成擋箭盤天天掛在嘴巴旁邊但是解讀的方向卻是不倫不類按自己的喜好曲解來逃避監督 |
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如今連替自己辯護為什麼不應該被彈劾都做不到此時此刻的賴清德正在其他的地方演講說著沒有什麼意義的廢話也不願意到國會的殿堂裡面聽聽不同的意見爭取更多不同意見者對他的支持以及認可 |
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所以抱歉我們旁邊現在只有一個賴士凱跟一個清德宗作為示意的代表最可笑的是在民進黨的51席51戰隊裡面這兩天只有三個立法委員願意站在台上說明為什麼不彈劾賴清德 |
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替民進黨的主席賴清德總統說明為什麼不用被彈劾都沒有民進黨的人願意嗎賴清德如此沒有票房嗎只能說可憐啊 |
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一個40%的少數總統不願意跟立法院的多數民意溝通發動大罷免把跟他意見不同的人都說成是雜質本來他還以為能夠匆匆容容游刃有餘濫用罷免制度顛覆國會結果被全國人民打臉32比0匆匆忙忙連滾帶爬國會的席次一席都沒有改變 |
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最可恥的事情是這麼明顯的起初考就被當掉賴清德還聲稱藍白沒有得到教訓很抱歉你覺得台灣的人民是健忘嗎國人給的教訓在726以及823是給你賴清德給民進黨怎麼沒有得到教訓呢 |
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至今賴清德是總統身兼黨主席拒絕跟在野黨進行任何的溝通以一個少數總統來說這種自以為老大的態度甚至去扯什麼在野獨裁又再一次的鬧笑話 |
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從來就只有擁有行政權的會擴權獨裁在野黨立法院的工作叫做監督限縮執政權的無限擴張讓五權能夠權力分立但在他的眼裡看不到自己的自大看不到自己的狂妄獨裁的本質反而指控要監督他避免行政權過度擴張濫權的立法院叫做在野獨裁 |
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這句話的不合理之處只要是一般有上過國中公民課的公民國人都知道在胡扯就你賴清德最敢講臉不紅氣不喘的再一次成為一場政治笑話 |
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即便被全民嘲笑他仍然不自觉自我感觉良好把一国元首的位置当成他过去台南市长的格局在做评估一个政治人物不要听他说了什么要看他做了什么口中喊着要团结国人但到目前为止没有任何具体的行为这种就叫做在唬赖 |
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再來身為三軍統帥的賴清德要採購軍武的時候大手大腳動不動1.25兆的特別預算新增3000億的國防預算但對我們的基層士兵警消人員極其苛刻 |
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軍人待遇條例警消所得替代的兩部法案三讀通過無論行政院是否送去釋憲在釋憲結果出爐以前它都是一部合法的法律應該要被執行結果呢行政院送進一份違法的預算幾百億的家計不願意編列這不是再一次讓社會防衛任性最重要的軍警消們含辛嗎 |
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军人的待遇按照法律通过志愿意加上去以后的加给基层最多也就五万多达到社会的一个平均值而军人弟兄却是要牺牲自己的自由承担更多的风险该给的加给还包含在法律里面律定的超时加给等等的其他额外权益但只因为赖清德总统莫名的执拗这样子制度化的好机会就被视而不见 |
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而且這樣的法律能夠吸引更多優質的人才能夠投入軍旅不適合者能夠有被太熟的空間合適的人能夠留下來不需要在部分的戰鬥部隊只剩下70%的邊線比的時候不敢太熟 |
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身為三軍統帥建立一個更優良的建軍體制是他的義務但是他政治掛帥眼睛只看美國人不回頭看看台灣自己人 |
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再加上两岸关系被赖清德搞得越来越糟糕导致我们的国军地生工作量急增压力越来越大风险越来越高还有少子化的问题现在提前退伍的使得我们的军人人数越来越少未来渴望是持续下探那我请问买了这么多的武器要么是像F16V一样买了以后到现在一架都没有来 |
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要嘛是未來我們要問還有多少軍人能夠來操作這些軍事的設備新聞報導要買20萬架的無人機我們的國軍人數不過就是15、6萬人以後還會更少 |
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那前幾天賴清德還嬉皮笑臉的說現在貓狗比小孩還多那請問花大錢買了武器誰來操作貓狗來操作嗎還是你賴清德來操作呢 |
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或许会有人问为什么要弹劾的是赖清德而不是对卓荣泰发动倒戈因为在我国的政治制度里面不是美国的总统制也不是日本德国的内阁制与法国的半首长制更是有很大的差异 |
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在中華民國來說總統在經過了數次的修憲以及增修條文之後他是有權無責而行政院長呢是有責無權也就是說我們更簡單的來講行政院長並不需要通過立法院的同意來任命也就是他基本上聽命於總統 |
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所以即使倒閣只要賴清德不一起重選他一樣可以任命相同的人政治的衝突只要賴清德一天死性不改就會一天持續下去所以真正的憲政國家的論源政治的毒瘤是賴清德總統而不是一個用完就可以丟棄的免洗筷卓榮泰院長 |
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所以我們必須要用彈劾的方式讓賴清德總統能夠了解自己所應該肩負的真正的政治責任賴清德總統 |
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無德不清又賴皮這是我對他現在所下的註解這些日子以來有很多的溝通機會但賴清德總統一次也沒有把握不願意把握把頭埋在土裡當著鴕鳥 |
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所以我們要請所有的國人同胞給予立法院不分黨派的立委清楚的指示表達出同意彈劾賴清德停止像他這樣為所欲為的施政如此一來我們才能讓國家的政治回到正軌 |
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現在的台灣需要的是團結需要的是全力的發展民生與經濟最不需要的就是政治鬥爭所以今天我們提出彈劾並不是要去審判或者是羞辱我們是要讓賴清德總統明白自己身上所肩負的政治責任 |
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回應社會的多數不要以一個40%的少數總統就可以掌握全局來自居所以我們要再一次呼籲全體國人一起站出來支持彈劾賴清德讓政治回到正軌 謝謝好 謝謝徐委員下一位請洪孟凱委員發言 |
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彈劾可能不過 但國家不能沉淪彈劾可能不過 但國家不能沉淪彈劾可能不過 但國家不能沉淪主席 各位委員 各位國人這兩天能夠站在這邊發言其實是因為立法院有史以來第一次對現任總統提出彈劾案 |
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我們必須先說這不是情緒性的決定不是政黨的算計更不是政治的表演而是一個被逼到不得不做的選擇因為直到今天我們此時此刻看到的是一個正在失速正在下墜的民主現場 |
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我們看到執政黨拒絕依法行政依法編列相關預算我們看到司法院公然寫出五大於六三等於零這樣荒謬的規則我們更看到大法官不再只是依法解釋法令而是照法選編為特定政治立場來服務我們也看到 |
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去年台灣社會承受巨大撕裂跟仇恨的大惡霸之後在野黨全員存活32比0但執政黨繼續選擇耍賴持續傲慢而不是選擇反省身為中央民意代表我們肩負的是一票一票人民的託付我們思考的是需要傳達什麼樣的政治理念給我們全民也給下一代 |
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歷史早已經提醒我們一句話權力使人腐化絕對的權力使人絕對的腐化 |
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也正因如此權力分立跟制衡從來都不應該是口號而是民主制度最重要而且也最不能退讓的底線當台灣民主憲政逐漸失序的時候這時候站出來不是選項而是責無旁貸的歷史使命這也是為什麼我們即便很多人都知道民進黨的席次其實足以護航即便憲法法庭早就被質疑 |
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淪為盡亂即便彈劾案最後可能無法通過我們依然要做因為彈劾案的價值不在於結果而在於過程我們再次強調彈劾可能不過但國家不能沉淪今天不就是一個最真實的例子嗎面對此時重大的憲政時刻賴清德總統給社會的回應只有幾個字 |
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不出席不說明不面對他甚至用一張便條紙告訴國會他不來理由是立法院無權向總統問責我們要必須替所有的人民來問一句如果代表民意的國會都不能問責總統那請問總統你要對誰負責這不就更坐實了現在總統就是一個有權無責的狀態嗎 |
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賴清德擔任台南市長的時候曾有232天拒絕進入議會與民意正面衝突今天他當了總統做一樣的事情拒絕國會拒絕多數拒絕承認雙少數執政的事實一手對於在野黨的委員發動無差別大罷免一手對於國會三讀通過的法令 |
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復議 釋憲 不附屬 不公佈 不執行要的不是溝通 不是妥協而是以總統之名指揮行政司法考試監察事業來全面對抗立法院這不是民主 這是權力集中這不是制衡 這是破壞分立賴總統怎麼為自己辯護呢 |
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他說他不攤不取沒有違法彈劾的目的何在他又說沒有三分之二為什麼要提浪費時間但我們站在這邊只想問三個最基本而且也最簡單的問題違法的預算立法院能審查嗎漏邊的預算立法院能為他背書嗎行政違法國會能不能視而不見呢 |
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依法編列 依法行政 立法院 依法審查這是最低限度的法治要求賴清德 賴總統的態度是什麼不是不懂 但你裝睡不行更諷刺的是 在野黨務實地要解決問題用預算法第54條推動少子化 TPAS 公共安全 醫療 體育等相關項目的預算來支應時結果呢 |
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TPAS聲譽津貼在野黨同意民進黨所有委員全部反對請問各位國人同胞到底誰在顧民生到底誰在擋人民各位我們再來看看南韓陳總統以席月 |
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以在野黨黨預算危害國家為由而發動戒嚴如今被以內亂罪來起訴這些說法是不是恰恰跟賴政府對於在野黨的指控有高度的相似呢當國際譴責聲浪四起唯一公開聲援的居然是民進黨黨團誰能保證當權力持續失控台灣會不會走樣一樣失控的深淵呢 |
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也因此我們看到賴總統你口口聲聲講說要朝野合作卻親手將2025年的僵局持續拖到2026年最愛談的是任性但卻成為中華民國歷史上最任性的一個總統法界甚至早已經警告一個可以自行決定公不公佈法律的國家這不是民主國家而是帝制國家 |
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最後我們必須再花一點時間講真正讓我們心痛的其實是看到過去這段時間台灣社會執政黨持續發動對立而撕裂族群但真正應該解決的問題解決了嗎 |
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透過數據我們看到當過去四年漲缺貪霸變成是年度代表制的時候代表全國2350萬人大家共同的想法對於過去四年都是負面情緒的時候我們的人民日子真的好過嗎 |
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2024年年度被詐騙突破1300億2025年最新的數字出來年度被詐騙高達近900億 |
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我們不會看到除了這樣子的一個數據以外更重要的是背後一個一個破碎的家庭而這些破碎的家庭平均一天以2.5億新台幣的被詐騙金額高達這樣的一個數據我們難道不能手握權力的政府能夠繼續更積極有效 |
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來阻止詐騙解決人民心目中的痛才是真正負責任的政府不是嗎也因此今天啟動詐騙並不是報復並不是仇恨並不是政黨的區別而是站出來以人民的角度向政府發聲過去曾經說過聽不到一次你可以大聲一點聽不到兩次你可以更大聲一點賴清德總統 |
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賴政府請不要逼著人民上街頭請不要逼著人民向您拍桌好好傾聽人民的心聲我們為了不要再讓國家繼續沉淪就算彈劾不會成功也必須留下記錄就算未來困難重重我們也必須對歷史對全國國人來負責因為這是我們責無旁貸的使命 |
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今天兩天的談話說完之後也是個開始接下來我們還有全台各地的公聽會我們也希望號召更多支持理念並且願意守護中華民國憲法願意為台灣2300萬人站出來的所有好朋友一起站出來 |
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我們會堅守法律的規範我們會善盡監督制衡的責任如果這樣做能夠把偏離民意的賴政府拉回民主正軌我相信這會是全民之福萬民之幸為了中華民國為了台灣的民主這一刻我們堅定地走在對的道路上再一次感謝大家我們一起加油天佑台灣天佑中華民國謝謝 |
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好 謝謝洪委員報告全院委員會本次審查會各黨團推派之委員均已發言完畢有關委員已提出之書面資料未及刊登公報者一律不刊做以下決議115年5月13日、14日繼續審查總統賴清德談的案 |
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6838.683 |
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6842.153 |
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本次全院委員會進行到此為止現在散會 |