| IVOD_ID |
17184 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17184 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
黨團協商-2026010531 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
黨團協商 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
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經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院朝野黨團協商 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T11:44:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T12:15:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db21ca6625277982f40173466a9fd90540081761262ea6c52f629736c058b795da5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T11:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院朝野黨團協商（事由：一、本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員謝衣鳯等16人、委員郭國文等17人分別擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」、委員蔡易餘等20人及委員陳亭妃等19人分別擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。二、行政院函請審議「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。三、本院委員張嘉郡等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。四、本院委員林倩綺等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。五、本院委員徐富癸等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。六、本院委員楊瓊瓔等30人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。七、本院委員盧縣一等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。八、本院委員顏寬恒等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。九、本院委員莊瑞雄等22人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十、本院委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十一、本院委員邱議瑩等18人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。十二、本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案」案。十三、本院委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十四、本院委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案」案。十五、本院委員林俊憲等21人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十六、本院委員許宇甄等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十七、本院委員鄭天財SraKacaw等25人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十八、本院委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第九條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。十九、本院委員邱鎮軍等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。二十、本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。二十一、本院委員賴瑞隆等18人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。二十二、本院委員郭國文等21人擬具「農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案」案。二十三、本院委員黃秀芳等22人擬具「農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案」案。二十四、本院委員陳俊宇等20人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。二十五、本院委員劉建國等19人擬具「農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案」案。二十六、本院委員王美惠等22人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。） |
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哎呦 |
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谢谢观看 |
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小黃我有基本上弄個因為這是寫商嘛所以主播就選走弄個摘要的一些說明那等一下我們討論的時候可以看那比較有爭議的這個目前有幾個不同的版本是有這個嗎像其他的部分然後還有後面那個漁會的部分就一個是增加漁會那另外就是針對原住民有特別的規定大概後面主要是這兩個 |
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還有那個一個勞保啊勞保在第三條一開始一開始就是說我們不以農保為限新增勞保跟國民聯金納入那各個委員不同的版本其實大概就是分兩個版本就第三條跟第三條之一都一樣結論都一樣意思一樣那這兩個這兩個有文字的不一樣就看看農業部的一個態度 |
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那第三條之一應該也都大家都一樣就是說不以農保為限但是針對軍人軍人保的部分有一些資格條件的一個列出來那這看農業部應該也會支持那委員你提的另外有多一個第二項對這一個部分所以其他就都一樣所以應該看看農業部的態度好 |
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之前 沒有啦 那是之前的之前的現在沒有了 |
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出席名單簽上來喔趕快出席名單簽上來 |
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來 我們簽好了嗎 |
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主席主席 |
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來我們協商開始囉來 |
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來我們介紹一下我們今天有參與我們協商的委員中嘉賓委員 張祺凱委員 謝業豐委員 邱志偉委員張家俊委員 郭國文委員 邱益穎委員有沒有簽到的 |
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然後再來我們的機關我們農業部陳俊濟部長陳怡任代理司長然後吳芙蓉處長國家發展委員會專門委員沈志勳財政部專門委員我們的吳秀琳專委勞動部組長文秀珠法務部參事廖江憲行政院主席總處陳台偉檢任視察 |
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來我們協商進行前後我們現在開始進行協商那本案是114年12月22日本院第11屆第4次經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議進行審查由本席擔任召委委員會審查結論第二條 |
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條文照委員參與等人及委員陳庭碑等人提案通過第7條條文委員提案及修正動議均保留送院會處理院會交付禁服惡毒之提案有行政院及24案的委員提案與本次會議並案討論 |
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那我們現在開始逐條討論首先委員劉建國等人委員黃秀芳等人及委員郭國文等人進步二讀的提案其中第三條在審查會時未曾討論那本次會議先就該條進行討論先請農業部進行說明麥克風麥克風來麥克風我們議事組 |
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麥克風主席還有各位委員那有關於農民退休儲金的第三修正條文第三條的部分那這個修正條文第三條的部分並沒有行政院的版本但是因為經過上次很多委員的提出來以後那基本上農業部也是支持的 |
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那整個的版本裡面各委員的提案的方向大概都一致都希望把這個斜槓人生就是做勞保的然後從事農業的部分能夠加到退休儲金所以我們是建議說紅委員的版本裡面最文字比較精準的是由那個秋英委員的版本這邊還有之前陳婷薇委員的版本做一些修正 |
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那裡面的版本裡面有一個非常重要的就是實際從事農業工作者是現行條文的文字建議把它納入那第二個部分是我們是將未參加農保的勞工保險與國民年金保險的資格我們合併在第二款續名皆沒有僱主依其相關的提撥退休處境的那這個部分我想我們依照那個從現在手邊所看到的邱議員委員的版本 |
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你們要不要提你們的建議提案出來你們把文字出來好不好邱委員的版本的文字所以你認為就是依照邱委員的版本大家有沒有意見 |
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邱議員的版本大家有沒有意見我問一下邱委員版本是把一些從事實際勞動的對象包括國保跟勞保的部分之外那上次有討論到有關於這個軍人的部分有沒有納入軍人版本就有了嗎三之一那是三之一條 |
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三之一的部分三之一還沒到來 那個部長所以你第三條是依照邱毅穎委員的版本不需要文字修正 |
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不需要 不需要那我們就依照邱益穎委員的第三條的版本通過這樣我們委員有沒有意見沒有 謝謝大家的支持來 我們再來第三條之一就是我們剛講的軍保的部分 |
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好那第三條的部分各位提案的方之一也是跟斜槓有關的就是各位提案的方向是一致的那我們文字是建議採用陳婷菲跟邱昀文的版本那這條裡面有幾個重點第一個重點就是 |
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修正比照農保開放退伍青農及保險提繳的一個儲金將退伍參加勞國保資斜槓青農也一併納入這是剛才郭國文委員有提到的第二個部分就是在第一項裡面的第一款就退伍青農以農保資格提繳與現行的規定是一致的 |
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那第二項的部分是保障曾參加提繳農退儲金的退伍青農如短期離農在5年內重返農業工作他可以繼續提繳的一個權益如果超過5年就不行那仔細參照現行的農保資格參加提繳退伍青農的做法以上好這樣子第三第三條之一就是依照邱益穎陳寧菲委員的版本不須文字修正 |
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是邱映穎委員的版本是邱映穎委員版本 第三條之一所以是依照邱映穎委員的版本好 那第三條之一邱映穎委員的版本通過有沒有異議沒有好 沒有異議了 通過來 第七條第七條的部分最主要是 |
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這個條文修正的一個重點就是農民跟政府的提交比例那我們分析了所有的版本裡面那多數委員的提案總共有15萬是與我們行政院的版本是一致的那我們在文字上面是建議用行政院的版本就是農民跟政府是採4比6的部分然後整個政府的支出大概是6億元那農民提繳的30年以後他減少的大概是33萬元左右 |
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那每個月領取的金額是不變的那委員謝一鳳 郭國文 邱振軍提供的版本是農民跟政府是1比1.5但是它上面的天花板是打開的上面天花板是打開的部分那我們考量到整個經費的支應的部分 |
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政府都會增加大概15億的支出那農民在30年內的金額是不變的但是最後領的是比較多的那我之前在委員會跟各委員說明現在我們在座談裡面委員是擔心現在繳的可不可以少一點啊而不是以後領的是可以多一點所以我們是建議用行政院的版本 |
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我們請張其凱委員然後再來是郭國溫委員再來是張家俊委員 |
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民眾黨也有提案我們是發現農民參加農退儲金的比例太低 覆蓋率太低全部才41% 特別青農才24%所以我們建議說把目前5比5當然我們認為調高到4.6是可以考慮民眾黨提案是希望可以變成是3比7就是說農民是負擔30%然後政委要提報是70% |
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那至於到後來要用37或者是46我們等一下進一步來討論一下不過最重要的是一定要照顧到農民另外就是這邊如果用後來採取的是46我希望老農今天那一塊那個金額要提高一點好 謝謝齊凱委員的說明然後我們請郭國文委員 |
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部長你剛剛說的部分有一部分說對有一部分說錯主要的部分是你在農民的這個提繳的部分去減輕他的負擔你把這些負擔的責任來挪到這個政府方來但是總額的部分其實並沒有增加也就是說它基本上是一個朝市募山跟朝山募市的一個做法總額其實是沒有增加的 |
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那我跟謝玉峰的版本 雖然是我先提 但是我們前後所見相反 好 好 好 一起好 一起好都相同 那原因是在哪裡 原因是我們希望是在從後面提撥的金額能夠提高而不是成本降低 而是總提撥金額 總領 總最後領到的金額提高所以最後的金額你提高的情況底下呢 其實所得替代率才會提高啦 |
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所以其實你現在農退除菁你出現兩個問題一個是覆蓋率過低一個是替代率過低所以說你現在出現這兩個問題的話你要怎麼增加我就認為在整個替代率的部分提高可以避其供餘力一來可以提高覆蓋率也可以提高這個替代率主要是這一個 |
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然後但是你如果是只有把這個成本降低的話或許再覆蓋率可以提高但是所得替代率你沒有辦法提高就是說你說以後會領得比較多我不認為就是說我說你有說對也有說錯的地方在這邊所以我是希望說你實施一段時間三年我用一個附帶決議的方式你用三年的時間來做一個檢討 |
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又一個檢討你覆蓋率要增加然後接下來也要把這個所得利率增加這是本席上一次到現在為止一直跟你要求的主張我們請張家俊委員 |
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我還蠻贊成郭國文委員所講的其實我們提出修正的草案核心的精神都非常的單純就是希望說政府多負擔一點然後讓這些青年農民少負一點而且這個制度也必須更加的友善所以這樣子的話 |
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才不會讓農民跟青農在不同的制度之中被迫要取捨如果我們這個制度更友善對青農跟農民更有利的話他們當然也就會就想你的就是說你的那個替代率他們就會比較願意過來會比較提高那本席跟其他的很多委員大家提的都是說將現行1比1的這個比例調整為政府負擔六成然後 |
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農民負擔四成那這樣的調整的話是用實際的行動來展現說國家願意跟農民一起規劃未來也讓這個退休的保障更容易被接受那我想這可能也就跟行政院版本一樣所以行政院版本我們也是支持的謝謝我們現在請謝悅峰委員 |
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其實大家會重新來檢討這個農民退休處境就是因為覆蓋率以及當然希望說農民未來生活的保障可以增加喔那但是就是說目前當然大家就是原則上是同意以這個行政院的版本通過的原因是希望說趕快的提高 |
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就是說相關的就是退休途徑的這個的進度那當然我覺得最重要的是是不是未來我們還是要訂定期間重新再來檢討對這個制度我認為是不是應該寫在附帶決議裡面那這樣子才能夠比較可以來確定說 |
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因为我们是根据农业部所说的农民的考的那个评估里面认为说他们希望是少缴而不是多拿退休的时候多拿那这个是不是能够提高这个覆盖率那我们三年以后来看那如果不行提高覆盖率的时候我们事实也是必须要提高所得替代率然后来增加这个农民退休属性的加保谢谢 |
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那個我們上次的這個附帶決議裡面郭國文有提案的部分就是說兩年無法成長10%的時候就要檢討 |
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農退儲金並改以提高相對提撥的1比2為方向上次就有伊鳳你有連署我們幾乎在現場的委員都有連署所以是不是就依照這個部分好那麼這個部分我們就依照行政院院版4比6的版本通過那在第8條的部分 |
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第8條第8條的部分因為可以依照各委員的版本那各委員的版本文字大概都是一樣的對所以依照委員的版本各委員的版本就依照所有委員的版本因為我們所有委員的版本文字都是一樣的那我們就照這個協商內容通過然後第9條我們請 |
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修正條文的第九條最主要是針對原住民的部分就是委員正天台有提案將那個提繳的年齡上限以65歲縮短到55歲那在這個部分我想農業部的立場還有行政院當初提出來的立場就是認為說現行的這部分都是用65歲的部分那之前有特別提到今天早上陳寅委員有提到 |
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因為農民的這些漁民原住民的漁民是82.7歲雖然說他比同樣是農民的全體農民的漁民有少了將近3歲左右啦但是他不是像一般的差異都非常大那我覺得還有跟其他的這個我們農業部相關的這些包括後續在處理的退休儲金的部分都是在65歲所以我們還是建議還是維持在65歲不管他是他的族群 |
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我們都維持在65歲鄭天才委員農業部每次引用的資料都是從65歲以後的年齡計算才會產生這麼差距很近的數字就比你們就沒有提供65歲以前65歲以前的農民 |
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原住民跟非原住民的农民65岁以前的这个年龄的差距这和就会有关系譬如说你要收减我今天不坚持但是你一定要提供一个数字给我就是55岁到64岁55岁到64岁原住民跟非原住民的年龄的差距 |
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可以作為我們未來的參考這樣好不好我這邊說明一下我們上次那個委員有提到就是我們要去統計這個資訊然後根據我們最新的一個統計就是55到64歲的原住民農保的被保險人我們針對農保的被保險人他的死亡率是2.4% |
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那同樣是參加農保的非原住民的他的死亡率是6.6反而是並沒有委員所說的中高年齡死亡的風險有顯著提高的一個情況原住民反而是比較低的這個數字我們再提供給委員 |
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對 愚命就剛才講的82.7歲嘛你剛才講的是55到64歲因為愚命就是講到最後的死亡嘛但是你剛才提到55對您認為是55到64歲原住民死亡率比較高嘛可是從我們統計來看同樣參加農保55到64歲的原住民的死亡率是2.4非原住民是6.6反而是非原住民的死亡率比較高好 我提供這個數字 |
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沒有啦今天協商所以我們現在那這一條就是不修正不予通過我們維持原先行條文這樣子我們委員有沒有意見好來新政第9條之一 |
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好那第9條之一的也是斜槓的部分那各委員的提案方向一致我們文字建議採用委員陳庭菲跟邱映穎的版本這兩個的版本是一致的好那我們這個新增第9條之一就依照邱映穎委員陳庭菲委員的版本通過有沒有意見沒有意見通過那第10條 |
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那第十條部分 各委員的提案方向也一致那文字我們建議採用邱毅委員的版本那配合受理單位又增加了漁會陳定輝版本也是一樣的兩個版本是一致的其他不一樣就是陳定輝跟邱毅陳定輝少了漁會所以只能用邱毅對 |
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好 OK那麼我們第10條就依照邱益穎委員的版本通過大家有沒有意見沒有 謝謝你說哪一個第二項對 我第二項沒有想說比較完整的是對 比較完整所以第4條就依照邱益穎委員的版本通過那第12條 |
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第12條的部分各委員的提案方向也是一致那文字我們建議採用劉建國黃秀芳陳亭飛跟邱盈瑩委員的版本好那我們第10條就依照第12條就依照陳亭飛邱盈瑩黃秀芳劉建國的委員四位委員的版本通過那第13條 |
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那13條的部分那基本上也是斜槓的部分那文字可以依各委員的提案的版本他文字都相同都一樣嗎那第13條就依照所有委員的提案版本通過第14條那14條是處理有關原住民的部分那剛才有特別提到我們是建議維持現行的條文就是年齡提早年齡的上限就是沒有沒有降低都是一例都是65歲 |
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所以我們第14條就不以修正不以通過維持現行的條文好 謝謝第16條第16條的部分它也是跟各位提案的版本都一樣那我們也是尊重 |
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好 我們第16條就依照所有委員的提案版本通過第19條19條也是一樣 文字都可以依各委員提案的版本它文字都相同好 我們第19條就依照我們所有委員提案的版本通過第21條21條也是一樣 就是委員的提案都是一樣的文字可以依各委員的版本 |
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好 我們第21條就依照我們所有委員提案的版本通過 第31條第31條也是一樣 就是它也是斜槓的部分那最主要文字各委員的版本方向是一致的 文字也相同那我們可以建議是採用各委員提案的版本好 第31條我們是這個依照所有委員的版本通過好 來 那 |
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來我們宣讀一下協商的結論我們農民退休儲金條例部分條文修正草案黨囤學章已經完據我們協商的結論是協商通過的條文第3條 |
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三支一条第七条第八条九支一条第十条第十二条第十三条第十六条第十九条第二十一条那不予通过的条文是维持现行条文就是第九条第十四条那其余条文均照审查会审查结果通过 |
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我們補充一下我們在這個慎重把它念好第二條第二條上次審查會已經審查通過了 |
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因為剛剛沒有剛剛我已經念了就是那個第二條的部分你這個給我看確定一下因為我剛剛已經有問有說了就是第二條條文依照委員蔡宇等人及委員陳寧菲等人的提案通過第七條條文然後所有的提案就是我們今天在審議的部分我在一開始黨團協商就念了 |
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對 所以第二條就念過了那我們協商通過的條文是第三條 三之一條第七條 第八條第十條 十二條十三條 十六條十九條 二十一條三十一條這是協商通過的條文那不予通過維持現行條文的是第九條 第十四條那不予增訂的條文是九之一條九之一條 抱歉 九之一條是通過 |
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你在幹嘛好 我再念一次 |
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不好意思 我們議事人員有點出錯來 協商通過條文喔第三條 三之一條 第七條 第八條 九之一條第十條 十二條 十三條 十六條 十九條 二十一條 三十一條有沒有問題 好 來不予通過維持現行條文第九條 第十四條 |
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好 那其餘條文均照審查會審查結果通過有沒有問題來 我們附帶決議一項要宣讀嗎我們之前宣讀過了就是附帶決議就依照我們宣讀過的附帶決議通過有沒有意見好 我們謝謝三位 謝謝 |
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1771.058 |
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謝謝 謝謝 謝謝喔 |