iVOD / 171570

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IVOD_ID 171570
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171570
日期 2026-10-22
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-6-35-5
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第6會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 6
會議資料.會次 5
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 35
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 外交及國防委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第6會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-10-22T11:25:26+08:00
結束時間 2026-10-22T11:37:13+08:00
影片長度 00:11:47
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 邱志偉
委員發言時間 11:25:26 - 11:37:13
會議時間 2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第6會期外交及國防委員會第5次全體委員會議【含秘密會議】(事由:邀請國家安全局局長蔡明彥率相關情報機關首長提出「國家情報工作暨國家安全局業務報告」,並備質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 這個陳寬廷委員的質詢
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 非常精彩令人感動
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 但是只要我排4分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 240秒
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 要來探討國安問題
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 對我資訊能力
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 算是一個非常大的挑戰
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 挑戰看看
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 挑戰看看
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 來
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 好請副局長
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 局長你好
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 你大概只有30秒
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 這個我的選區
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 他個人被200萬交保
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 他是什麼原因是去會選的
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 一個模範母親也是我很敬佩的長輩
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 不管是調查局
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 當然可以
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 好你時間到了
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 國安局蔡局長
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 市長你好
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 這個我們共事多久了
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 三年有吧
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 你看我質詢的
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 所有委員的評價都很正面
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transcript.whisperx[82].text CPTPP馬上要在越南舉行
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 去審核相關的資源
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 印太產業任性夥伴關係
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 這個對台灣非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 這是不是實質有效參與
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 來參加這個機制
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 你對於將來大家在相關產業鏈
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 不同的
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 回啦
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 移民署林署長
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 我知道
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 第一個就是高雄機場的問題
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 你今天下午就要去看了
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 查驗
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 竟然比這個E-Gate還多
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 這的確是民眾跟我反應的問題
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 我反應給你
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 希望你馬上去解決
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 反正我做民意代表
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 我做國務卿
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 這個部分我昨天有稍微查了一下
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 你先去現場看了一下
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 好 是
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 第二個議題就是有關
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 那個也是屬於跨國鎮壓
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 這個數字
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 是從你報告
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 我說
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 唉
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 這個署長
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 因為委員講說我們不用工
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 其實我們並沒有不用工
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 我們花了很多的時間在做準備
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 對外關係也要好
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 我言之有理言之有誤
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transcript.whisperx[347].text 這個中國的街選也好
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 這個灰色地區騷擾也好
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transcript.whisperx[355].text 幾個字
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 這是我們一致的目標
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 好 謝謝委員 謝謝