iVOD / 171565

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IVOD_ID 171565
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171565
日期 2026-10-22
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-6-22-4
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 6
會議資料.會次 4
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 22
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 教育及文化委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-10-22T11:04:13+08:00
結束時間 2026-10-22T11:20:43+08:00
影片長度 00:16:30
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 羅廷瑋
委員發言時間 11:04:13 - 11:20:43
會議時間 2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議(事由:邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、法務部、內政部警政署及衛生福利部列席就「毒品校園篩檢、毒品滲入校園現況及防制、科技查緝策略暨跨部會輔導戒治機制」進行專題報告,並備質詢)
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 部長好
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 增加到114年360
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 兩案製造
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 還涉及販毒制毒
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 我們今天來探討一下
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 到底在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 我們這個議題也講了很多次
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 這個是非常嚴重的事情
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 我們校園反毒做成這樣
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 部長你覺得有沒有進步的空間
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 我們當然希望所有校園裡面的學生
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 都能夠勇於抗毒拒毒
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 就是拒絕毒品
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 大家都希望
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 那你覺得有沒有進步空間
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 也在努力
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 因為毒品真的是危害
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 我們都知道
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 所以在他的嚴重處我們是知道
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 希望你們要更具體的作為
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 第一充實校案能力
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 請問部長
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 這幾個措施
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 預計能達成什麼樣的效果
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 目前已經做到什麼樣的地步
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 我想這次特別從10月開始
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 我們也支持地方
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 中央跟地方合作
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 2000的人力的一個投入
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 其實我想有一個很重要
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 除了過去我們就希望學校是一個友善的校園
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 讓老師能夠專心的教學
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 學生也能夠安心的學習
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 減少困擾
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 我想這一個也是我們的方案之一
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 但是他能不能解決所有的校園事件
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 包含學生的這個
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 我沒有要你一次就說你完全改善
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 我們就針對問題回答問題
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 第一校園能力什麼時候能夠全面的進駐
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 我們已經這個經費是提供給地方
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 我們地方就隨時都可以進了
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 你有沒有追蹤啊
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 你剛說2000人力嘛
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 已經進駐多少都已經請到了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 那這些校園人力是增加了我們學校的所謂的保全嗎
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 還是增加了反毒的人力
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 這個部分你有了解嗎
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 不是花了錢請了人
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 我們為了一個多一個主婦阿姨
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 來擔任我們的保全嗎
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 反毒包括熱點的財產這都是他的工作
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 有沒有多少人進駐2000都滿了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 因為剛開始實驗
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 所以我們也積極請各地方22個縣市教育局處趕快
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 因為經費上我們是會給予支持的
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 對嘛那你要跟他們講什麼時候不用的話就不能再用啊
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 他們就會更積極嘛
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 這個執行上我們再來跟地方提醒
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 這個真的我們不是頒布的方法
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 你們中央你還是要去監督地方啊
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 你要去跟他們督導啊
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 我想
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 對不對因為是你的錢嘛
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 你要花我的錢那我就要督導你啊
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 東委員報告我們10月16號
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 就跟各地方縣市教育局處有召開這個會議
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 然後我想地方政府也在充分理解
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 然後他們就國中端我想學校的老師校長他們也期待
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 有這樣的一個校恩人力能夠進出到校園
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 我們都期待但是趕快落實啊
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 第二引入脫衣快篩什麼時候
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 我們這個這個驗毒條例通過
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 我們就會開始這個引入脫衣的一個快篩
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 那也感謝我們警政署在這方面的協助
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 那目前你有掌握到他們的草案性送進來了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 目前這個法案已經在立法院也在惡毒
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 也拜託我們這一個委員能夠給予支持
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 一定支持啊但我現在教育局
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 非常感謝
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 那是衛環他們要審嘛
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 那我想黨團的意見我們一定全力支持啊
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 謝謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 那再來第三整合電子煙跟毒品的事件處理流程
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 研定出來了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 最近都在研定然後是
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 跟委員報告目前這個指引然後跟我們的流程
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 我們現在目前就是也跟跨部會的
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 跨單位在把電子煙跟毒品的相關處理機制
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 把它定得更優化
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 什麼時候會出來
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 然後我們會在最晚我們10月會完成
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 然後我們會在1月會印一個指引提供給家長跟我們的老師
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 10月會完成
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 1月才會印出來
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 指引會有更細的資料包含怎麼辨識毒品
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 包含怎麼去協助引進資源包含流程
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 會有好幾個資料
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 如果說10月會完成1月會印出來
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 可以接受這樣的速度嗎
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 可不可以再快一點
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 我們再加速
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 我想這個如果10月能夠順利完成
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 我們確實應該馬上11月就可以加速這一個來
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 對吧
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 我無意刁難
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 10月完成為什麼要等1月才可以印
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 確實這個我們流程上我們再來
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 來補充
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 不好意思因為我有再補充喔
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 因為我們目前這個指引
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 跟我們的流程都是要帶
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 危害防治法它才會有個法源
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 因為它最後通過的一個版本是什麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 所以我們也要有留這個空間
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 來把這個起備
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 把這個法源都起備來做這個一個
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 最後的一個因素
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 透過這樣子的內容宣導
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 那有疑慮的部分先保留
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 等他們通過
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 要謝謝委員提醒
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 因為你整個裡面不一定是全部都要等
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 就行政上流程我們可以加強宣導
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 立法院通過我們法源的依據就更清楚
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 剛剛一開始就提喔
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 國中高中職的主要風險
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 委員不好意思
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 剛剛有一個因為有跟法有關
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 那委員也提到這個
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 高中以下的可以做什麼
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 那我們馬上已經先做了
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 高中以下學校電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 這裡面有包含電子煙跟毒
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 怎麼處置的一個流程
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 毒那會後也會給委員
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 這就是現在在實施的
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 現在在實施的
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 那這就是我們要聽到的答案
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 那這個部分我要跟大家講
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 國中跟高中職主要的風險場域
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 我們現在看到
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 不管我剛剛所提到的高中的一個案例
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 跟國中是逐年提升喔
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 逐年在提升喔
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 那增加的幅度非常明顯
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 教育部有沒有針對高中
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 高職夜間實習場域
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 校外活動建立專案的防治
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 我們目前確實跟有一個
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 跨部會的合作跟
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 這個警政署
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 還有校外會還有
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 醫療相關單位我們事實上都會
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 定期跟不定期的到九千
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 六百多點裡面
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 我們會有去做
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 定期跟不定期的查訪
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 那我們針對這個學生
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 有接觸毒品的
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 許多的這些不同教育階段
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 裡面他們也已經做了一些
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 理解然後提出看能不能
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 有一些更好的一個協助的
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 一些方案
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 我們還是希望要有一個專案防治的計畫
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 因為這些熱點
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 還有這些樂趣我們應該要知道
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 那在這些
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 不管是吸食持有販售
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 製造剛剛所提到的案例
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 每一屆都可能擴大影響
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 所以學校
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 發生學生在涉嫌
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 吸食持有販售
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 然後是否有機制
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 追查上游的來源阻斷
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 那現在我們看到剛才的一個擴散
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 同步保護可能被引誘或
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 有沒有一個介入
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 而不是就是說我就報警
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 我們目前確實如果是在
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 有發生學生可能有這樣的
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 一個情形會透過老師來透過
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 輔導的一個歷程可能會知道一些
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 訊息就會提供給警察
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 相關的一個溯源
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 那這個部分的前提都要保障學生
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 沒有錯啦當然也要保障老師的安全
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 讓老師或學校
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 有所依據這個是
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 要拜託的啦
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 張委員一直在上個會期
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 輔導作業這裡面有提到了大概
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 十二點的
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 甚至有一些業務怎麼操作
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 尿篩怎麼進行
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 十二點行為太陽的依據等等
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 像這些大概都給學校有一個指引
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 以前我們都有看過
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 課桌椅教室就批改
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 作業現在不是
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 現在是下了課以後
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 那行政作業也完成
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 基本上要下班也不願意逗留
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 趕快回家
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 因為很害怕看到不該看的
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 看到學生起衝突
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 他不知道該不該管
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 才不會出現防疫性教學
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 包括我們現在在講
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 是這樣用來支持老師
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 等於說六班以上
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 那你有聽到這一層聲音嗎
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 你有聽到他那一層聲音嗎
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 有時間就跟地方的老師
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 看怎麼樣台灣的教育能夠
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 一月通過以後
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 已經下降了
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 取消
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 確實他們也
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 樂觀這個未來的
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 要廢除是剛剛從您這邊
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transcript.whisperx[346].text 費用都是
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transcript.whisperx[366].text 你看我講的這麼激動
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transcript.whisperx[367].text 講到業員之外都覺得有認同
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transcript.whisperx[368].text 同感站起來一直不斷的
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transcript.whisperx[369].text 點頭
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transcript.whisperx[370].text 站起來是因為時間超過
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 繼續幫忙發展
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 不好意思 張偉您剛剛說什麼
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 我說我是認同啦 但是站起來是因為
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 時間超過
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 我以為是站起來認同
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 所以是認同
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 加時間到了
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 但是我要講的是說你看
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 張偉這麼的
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transcript.whisperx[380].text 在努力為老師發聲
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transcript.whisperx[381].text 所以他只站起來
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transcript.whisperx[382].text 不敢打斷我 因為他知道說
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transcript.whisperx[383].text 我在為老師發聲
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 所以我們繼續探討 校事會議
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 這件事情你對於第三板
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transcript.whisperx[386].text 還有沒有要改的機會
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transcript.whisperx[387].text 維護老師的權益包含
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transcript.whisperx[388].text 資產不法傷害我們
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transcript.whisperx[389].text 10月底也會公佈
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transcript.whisperx[390].text 對老師許多的嫌疑
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transcript.whisperx[391].text 我想我們跟委員的目標
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transcript.whisperx[392].text 都是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[393].text 你說10月底會公佈
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transcript.whisperx[394].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[395].text 資產不法傷害
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transcript.whisperx[396].text 已經讓老師知道了
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 他們這段時間開了記者會
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 你先讓我問問題
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transcript.whisperx[399].text 你再回答
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transcript.whisperx[400].text 現在出稿大家都知道了
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transcript.whisperx[401].text 那學生團
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transcript.whisperx[402].text 校事會議這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[403].text 學校包括老師團體
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transcript.whisperx[404].text 已經有開記者會了
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 你會不會在這段時間10月底
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transcript.whisperx[406].text 再繼續納入意見 再繼續微調
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 到10月底最後公佈
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 本來我想很多的政策
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transcript.whisperx[409].text 法令辦法的規範
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transcript.whisperx[410].text 就是要以實際進
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transcript.whisperx[411].end 938
transcript.whisperx[411].text 當我們也希望有許多不同聲音
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 這是民主的價值
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 讓台灣在我們許多的
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 校事會議的日子
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transcript.whisperx[415].text 能夠真正的貼近
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transcript.whisperx[416].text 認證了老師他的權益
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 然後不認證老師
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 讓他能夠離開校園
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 我想我們的目標是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[420].text 會不會在10月底
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transcript.whisperx[421].text 繼續傾聽 繼續微調
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transcript.whisperx[422].text 這個傾聽當然是一次的
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transcript.whisperx[423].text 我有時間跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[424].text 我還不只特定團體
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transcript.whisperx[425].text 我還全國各地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[426].text 的這一個
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transcript.whisperx[427].text 所以你會繼續傾聽
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transcript.whisperx[428].text 但是你會不會繼續微調
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transcript.whisperx[429].text 當然如果有
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transcript.whisperx[430].text 能夠有更精進的方法
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transcript.whisperx[431].text 我們當然會
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transcript.whisperx[432].text 我們會再持續收集更多意見
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transcript.whisperx[433].text 來轉交給教育部
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 也會給洪署長
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transcript.whisperx[435].text 希望說這部分你一定要廣納
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transcript.whisperx[436].text 在10月底的時候不要讓大家失望
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transcript.whisperx[437].text 謝謝委員