| IVOD_ID |
171558 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171558 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-6-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第6會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-22T10:48:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-22T10:56:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9f0219c4ec2537e632b21395a6415166e8177f1cdd9008970da12af8eb8a9ca7e744949ebbc1455f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:48:14 - 10:56:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第6會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請公平交易委員會代理主任委員、經濟部部長、勞動部首長、數位發展部首長及交通部首長就「公平會就跨境事業併購案之結合審查機制，是否納入複雜股權結構、勞動權益與資安風險等考量?」進行報告，並備質詢。
【10月21日及22日二天一次會】） |
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0 |
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1.3 |
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張超民委員質詢 |
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14 |
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18.38 |
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首先邀請我們公平會的陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
18.38 |
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19.88 |
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好 有請陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
25.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
26.34 |
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我先走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
26.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
30.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
那個 陳主委 我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
30.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
35.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
Panda是台灣的公司還是國外的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
35.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
37.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
他的母公司是國外的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
37.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
38.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
蛤 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
38.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
39.98 |
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他的母公司是國外的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
39.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
42.46 |
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母公司是國外的公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
42.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
45.02 |
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還有台灣的資本多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
45.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
46.76 |
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台灣的資本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
47.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
49.86 |
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有沒有台灣人在投資啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
50.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
52.32 |
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他的持股是百分之百持股 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
52.32 |
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54.82 |
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百分之百 都是外國公司 |
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54.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
55.32 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
55.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
57.34 |
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那我現在想到一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
58.46 |
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62.58 |
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當Uber要變過Panda的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
62.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
64.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
是九點五億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
65.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
68.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
現在換成Grab要來變過 |
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68.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
71.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
Future Panda變成六億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
71.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
73.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
這個價格節節下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
73.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
77 |
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當然是國外公司我就比較不介意 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
77.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
81.18 |
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但是裡面用的是台灣員工的保障權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
81.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
84.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
如果以你公平會這樣的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
85.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
88.4 |
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我不曉得外國公司會怎麼樣做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
88.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
90.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
但是員工是台灣的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
90.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
94.52 |
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所以你這樣做法我就覺得莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
94.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
今天大家都講的大道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
97 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
98.68 |
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我要追這個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
98.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
102.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
當然Uber在變過Panda的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
102.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
105.16 |
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確切實實會變成壟斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
105.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
107.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
所以我們當初反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
107.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
110.92 |
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那今天我看到很多的委員在施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
111.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
114.92 |
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那Grab在變過Panda的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
117.4 |
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裡面有兩個原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
117.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
121.8 |
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一個說他佔了股權比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
121.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
124.92 |
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一個是國安資訊的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
那這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
133.72 |
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他說Uber跟Grab佔有13.5的普通股權 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
133.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
138.92 |
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但是他投票值只佔了3.5還3.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
139.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
142.92 |
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世界的交加儲股都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
142.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
這感覺看起來比較減重 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
還有一直在調料說這個中資企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
152.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
如果以經濟部來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
152.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
154.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
中資企業來這邊投資的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
154.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
就超過30%要經過N1的審核管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
162.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
然後碰到紅色供應鏈就怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
162.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
166.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
好那個世衛部我再請教你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
168.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
176.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
那如果說照某些委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
176.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
180.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
世紀國家的安全資料裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
180.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
184.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
如果用華為的大師技就屬於紅色的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
184.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
186.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
那我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
186.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
188.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
如果台灣的大師技的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
188.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
192.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
要用哪一家公司的才不會屬於紅色的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
192.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
196.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
哪一家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
196.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
202.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
大師技你們裡面談到說用到那個華為的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
202.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
204.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
就是紅色的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
204.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
208.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
好假設他是紅色的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
208.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
212.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
用哪一家公司才不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
216.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
220.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
國際上大運Google AWM |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
220.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
224.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
Google AWM來你覺得欺騙外行人 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
224.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
228.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
Google AI資料就不會外洩嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
228.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
232.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
Google也是要存資出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
232.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
234.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
世界各國要跟他存資這個世紀中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
234.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
238.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
這樣也不會外洩嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
238.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
240.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
像你人真是有八八種的 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
240.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
242.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
Google也有中國的用戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
242.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
244.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
也有歐洲的用戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
244.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
246.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
也有日本的用戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
246.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
248.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
我在日本設一家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
248.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
250.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
我跟你存資什麼資料不外洩 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
250.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
252.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
你是來紅去偏黃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
252.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
254.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
青菜來倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
254.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
258.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
這樣的制度怎麼會對台灣有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
258.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
260.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
民主制度有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
260.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
262.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
來你給我講個清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
262.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
264.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
還用國安世紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
264.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
一個福特派 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
268.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
賣的東西都是國安世紀 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
268.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
270.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
你們就用國安什麼來長調 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
270.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
272.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
這文化生意制 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
272.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
274.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
企業自由政治的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
274.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
276.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
青菜公共的 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
276.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
這樣來倒倒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
278.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
我覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
282.92 |
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如果照你們這樣子所講 |
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282.92 |
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286.92 |
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只有美國沒有安全部力 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
286.92 |
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288.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
只有日本沒有安全部力 |
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288.92 |
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290.92 |
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那些國家捐給最多啦 |
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290.92 |
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292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
什麼資料也要把你挖起來 |
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292.92 |
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294.92 |
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你們都這樣子在想 |
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294.92 |
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296.92 |
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不然用Google |
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296.92 |
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298.92 |
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Google就不會外流出去 |
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298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
我現在不跟你們辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
我現在不跟你們辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
我現在不跟你們辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
我現在不跟你們辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
306.92 |
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308.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
我現在不跟你們辯 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
308.92 |
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310.92 |
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我只說用頭腦去想 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
310.92 |
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312.92 |
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你們例如有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
312.92 |
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314.92 |
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Google一定有很多說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
中國人在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
316.92 |
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318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
華人在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
318.92 |
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320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
也有歐洲公 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
在日本的中國公司在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
324.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
美國的中國公司在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
324.92 |
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326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
要把你辯解快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
326.92 |
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328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
用這樣做個世紀來 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
328.92 |
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330.92 |
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所以我覺得今天很茫密 |
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330.92 |
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332.92 |
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這個專題報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
332.92 |
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334.92 |
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公表會陳志偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
334.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
不要受到某種壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
336.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
我不是去誰講 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
338.92 |
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340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
我早上才看的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
340.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
342.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
這個問題我不熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
342.92 |
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344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我每天有看經濟日報裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
344.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
今天經濟日報的社論 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
346.92 |
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348.92 |
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就在談這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
348.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
那我建議你最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
你把統一找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
把前聯找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
356.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
把全聯找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
356.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
把全聯找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
360.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
把全聯找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
360.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
362.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
把全聯找過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
362.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
364.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
叫他們核子藝加公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
364.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
366.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
給台灣人經營就最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
366.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
368.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
368.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
370.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
不會流到美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
370.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
372.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
也不會流到日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
372.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
374.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我跟你們報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
374.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
到底誰來接這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
378.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
我是舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
378.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
380.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
我不是叫你建制 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
380.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
382.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
我不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
382.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
384.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
現在想這種話 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
384.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
386.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
隨時都會被抓 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
386.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
388.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
我們在考慮過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
388.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
390.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
你們今天所有反駁道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
390.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
392.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
有資都不合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
392.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
394.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
小題大作 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
394.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
396.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
你要引進的外資 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
396.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
398.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
東南亞國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
398.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
400.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
你都把它全部當為中資 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
400.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
402.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
只有日本的不是中資 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
402.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
404.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
只有美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
404.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
406.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
跟歐洲的才進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
406.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
你這個政府已經反常了 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
408.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
我跟委員報告公評會的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
410.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
我沒有審查到資安跟中資的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
412.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
414.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
裡面有談到資安嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
416.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
第三頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
420.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
422.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
第三頁第四頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
422.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
424.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
424.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
資安什麼這個我們管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
428.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
是數位不管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
428.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
等一下要說有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
432.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
第三頁第四頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
432.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
436.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我今天看到這篇文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
436.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
奇怪等一下又國安又資安 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
440.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
這個Uber傳送公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
440.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
442.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
有那麼偽詐嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
442.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
444.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
總統府也不會去買 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
444.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
外送平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
448.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
行政院長也不會去買外送平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
448.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
450.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
立委最有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
450.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
452.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
他們有受保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
452.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
手會比較小題大作 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
456.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
如果人家外資 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
456.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
458.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
要來投資的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
458.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
460.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
包著三種開放的心理 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
460.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
462.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
不對你就處罰他 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
462.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
464.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
你現在手要講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
464.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
466.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
手要結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
466.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
468.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
你如果有台灣公司要結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
468.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
470.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
要得到更多的資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
470.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
472.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
你現在手要講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
472.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
474.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
要結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
474.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
要得到更便宜的價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
那本來人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
478.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
購買的價格比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那台灣的企業員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
所得的萬一有變動的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
所得比較少至於這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我才跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
很貓咪 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
494.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
這個到底後面在說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
494.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
你看結果就曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
台灣公司收購 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
現在我很提醒我們後續還是會依照公平法 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
502.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
我們會再仔細來觀察 |