| IVOD_ID |
171167 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171167 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-26T14:33:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-26T14:37:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:03:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/2075dd897ebcbff8975c15d12d98d2a197a06820c206e70755a922f9a52b88fef3b9796bc518a7b75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:33:50 - 14:37:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-26T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：三、審查
(一) 委員林月琴等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員李彥秀等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例第十五條、第十六條及第十七條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員王育敏等21人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員林月琴等28人擬具「教保服務人員條例第三十三條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員陳冠廷等16人擬具「教保服務人員條例增訂第二十三條之一條文草案」案。
(七) 委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「教保服務人員條例部分條文修正草案」案。
【進行詢答及逐條審查】） |
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1 |
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謝謝 |
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18.9 |
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好 我們現在請羅廷瑋委員提案說明 |
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22.2 |
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22.7 |
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好 |
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23.7 |
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27.1 |
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交保人員條例修正草案的提案 |
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27.3 |
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28.4 |
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跟大家特別報告 |
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28.4 |
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34.4 |
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今年 幼稚園性騷擾 性侵害體罰 霸凌及其他不當對待的事件 |
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34.9 |
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36.4 |
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還是不斷的在發生 |
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37.1 |
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40.7 |
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幼兒年紀小自我保護 及表達的年曆有限 |
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41.1 |
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45.3 |
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因此制度不能只是在事情發生之後處罰行為人 |
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45.4 |
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47.9 |
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更重要的是當風險已經出現的時候 |
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48.2 |
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50.9 |
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能不能及時的阻止下一個孩子受害 |
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51.4 |
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58 |
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今年七月 基隆一間準公共幼兒園發生嚴重不當的對待幼童的事件 |
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58.1 |
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63.9 |
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兩名教保服務人員遭重罰 並終身不得再任教保人員 |
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64.4 |
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67.8 |
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但原所負責人依現行的規定 |
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68.8 |
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71.1 |
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罰款最高只有六萬元 |
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71.9 |
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77.2 |
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我們不是只是想要罰 應該罰 而處罰 |
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77.8 |
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82.6 |
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而是我們應該要調查 凸顯第一線行為人之外 |
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83.6 |
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87.8 |
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機構管理通報的主管機關 風險的控管機制 |
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88.5 |
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91 |
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都還需要有補強的一個地方 |
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91.8 |
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93.9 |
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我們更希望要凸顯的是 |
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94.7 |
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101.3 |
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保護認真的幼保人員 教保人員 甚至是機構的管理人 |
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102 |
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110.4 |
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但是要重懲 包庇 隱匿 甚至是協助 |
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111.3 |
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114.1 |
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這樣子的相關責任 應該要加重 |
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115 |
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118.8 |
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尤其現行制度對於涉案人員在行政調查 刑事調查 |
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118.8 |
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120.6 |
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或者是審判期間的職務處置 |
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121.2 |
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125.7 |
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以及相關資訊的通報 查詢仍有漏洞 |
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126.2 |
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129 |
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甚至可能讓涉案人員利用資訊的落差 |
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129.3 |
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132.3 |
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轉往其他的教保機構認知 |
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132.6 |
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136.9 |
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讓更多的幼兒 暴露在整個風險之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
137.3 |
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141.1 |
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因此這一次 教保服務人員條例修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
141.1 |
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142.3 |
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明確提出三個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
142.3 |
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146.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
第一 涉案教保人員於行政調查犯罪偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
146.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
152.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
以及審判期間 應暫時停聘 停職或者是停止契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
153.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
157.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
第二 主管機關得收集 查詢 處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
157.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
162.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
以及利用相關涉案的資訊 建立示警的機制 |
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163 |
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166.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
第三 提高不依法通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
167.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
171.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
機構管理失職 甚至是隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
這樣子的法環 我想 從這三個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
177.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
都指向了同一件事 |
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178 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
讓所有的制度都能夠更快的介入處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
184.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
讓負責的人能夠真正負起責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
184.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
187.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
真正能夠減少傷害發生的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
187.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
191.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
孩子沒有能力 替自己發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
191.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
193.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
所以我們更應該有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
194.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
197.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
讓這樣子的安全網 織得更加安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
197.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
對好人更好 對壞人更壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
203.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
是我們希望能夠檢討的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
203.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
204.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
以上 |