iVOD / 171166

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IVOD_ID 171166
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171166
日期 2026-08-26
會議資料.會議代碼 聯席會議-11-5-26,36-2
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 聯席會議
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 26
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] 36
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 社會福利及衛生環境委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] 司法及法制委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-08-26T12:26:53+08:00
結束時間 2026-08-26T12:53:35+08:00
影片長度 00:26:42
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 劉建國
委員發言時間 12:26:53 - 12:53:35
會議時間 2026-08-26T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議(事由:一、審查「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」等10案。 (一)委員葉元之等19人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第五十二條條文修正草案」案。 (二)委員黃健豪等23人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。 (三)委員徐巧芯等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第三十二條之一條文草案」案。 (四)委員鄭正鈐等22人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。 (五)委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第十條之一條文草案」案。 (六)委員魯明哲等18人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法增訂第十一條之一條文草案」案。 (七)委員魯明哲等18人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第二十九條條文修正草案」案。 (八)委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。 (九)委員王育敏等20人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法第二十九條及第四十三條之一條文修正草案」案。 (十)委員張雅琳等16人擬具「性侵害犯罪防治法部分條文修正草案」案。 二、審查「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」等17案。 (一)委員陳亭妃等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。 (二)委員徐欣瑩等27人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三十二條及第三十三條條文修正草案」案。 (三)委員張智倫等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。 (四)委員廖先翔等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第三十九條條文修正草案」案。 (五)委員蔡其昌等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (六)委員黃秀芳等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (七)委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條、第五十三條之二及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。 (八)委員林宜瑾等19人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (九)委員林俊憲等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (十)委員邱議瑩等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (十一)委員林月琴等21人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第十三條之一及第五十三條之二條文草案」案。 (十二)委員王育敏等19人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條、第五十三條之二及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。 (十三)委員范雲等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第五十三條之二及第五十三條之三條文草案」案。 (十四)委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案。 (十五)委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第十二條及第五十三條之二條文修正草案」案。 ......(完整內容,詳見議事日程) 【本次會議綜合詢答,僅詢答】)
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 我們請次長
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 有請呂次
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 次長好
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 這三次在兒童性剝削防治條例修法中
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 我們要求外部運用科技的技術
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 來主動尋找這個涉兒哨性影像犯罪的協議的情勢
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 外部預計是在8月要完成系統開花期
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 然後進入試運作
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 目前已經8月底
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 整個系統運作狀況如何
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 包委我們現在目前
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 我先跟所有的說明時間
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 我們正式上路是明年8月
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 那中間會需要經過有一些相關期
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 最後事實上就是說有一些關鍵
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 因為我們現在要去網路主動巡查
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 那裡面有關鍵字
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 關鍵字裡面我們主要會同司法機關警察
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 還有這個被害人團體這些
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 我們現在目前把這些所謂提詞
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 那些還有關鍵字把它收取
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 然後現在目前正在加緊做這一個部分
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 明年8月才會見事完成
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 也就是說要在一年的時間
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 我現在請教是試運作的時間
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 整個系統運作狀況如何
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 有沒有已經主動尋找到這個兒童性影像
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 並完成下架
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 包委我們現在目前大概
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 如果是那個試那個test那個部分
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 是到9月
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 9月我們9月會來
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 你們test的時候有沒有
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 已經有預防性下架的機件
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 目前還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 包委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 我們現在其實在做這個機制
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 然後預計9月我們會來做一個試營運
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 那試營運的案件
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 我們當然就會連結我們的
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 性影像處理中心這邊來做處理
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 你的試營運要到9月嗎
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 那你要一直試營運
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 試營運到明年的8月嗎
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 對因為它有一些關鍵字需要教條
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 然後有一些科技的變化
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 需要來做一些處理
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 但是你們之前答覆委員會是8月
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 對是希望
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 本來是希望能這樣
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 但是因為中間有好幾個轉折
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 有一些技術發現不太可行
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 你們的希望跟再委員會回答的希望是不太一樣
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 那你們的希望也不符合我們期待的希望
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 那你們這樣的希望會讓台灣
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 會陷入到很多的失望
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 而且你試營運需要從今年從9月
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 一直試營運到明年的8月
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 有這種試營運起這麼長的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 什麼樣的特殊的情況
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 需要有這種試營運這麼長的時間
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 你能類比一兩項給我們做參考
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 跟我們今天討論的主題
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 比較相容的嘛
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 有什麼樣的一個機制
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 讓你們試營運需要要
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 對足足一年的時間
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 一個試辦計畫頂多三個月半年
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 一季嘛對不對兩季嘛
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 你的試營運要足足一年的時間
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 報告委員因為我們本來是希望能夠精準的去做處理
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 那如果這一年的時間
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 可能顯得太長的話
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 我們再來縮短這個時間
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 其實試營運的時候已經在上線了
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 只是還沒有正式說跟大家講
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 試營運已經上線了嘛
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 那你們的試營運你剛剛又講說9月才開始嘛
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 對我們希望
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 你的上線跟你的試營運開始
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 你的試營運的上線跟你的試營運開始
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 這是什麼層次上的落差
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 我聽不太懂不好意思
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 因為我們現在還在做幾個關鍵字的找尋
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 那如果發現它跟我們原先預定的標準不太一樣的話
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 我們是會做一些置換
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 這個原本就有需要滾動師去做一些討論嘛
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 因應嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 你的關鍵字你現在8月前你搜尋到關鍵字或許9月之後
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 你原本搜尋到關鍵字已經不乎9月
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 所以他們又新出來的相關的一些連結的那些字眼
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 或許8月份你之前就通通沒有用了
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 所以應該你的試營運的機制應該
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 如果要拉長一點
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 那基本上你的反應速度要非常快嘛
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 反而你這樣講我會覺得
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 現在進度
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 你現在已經進入到重生成套代理的
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 沒關係那個話
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 你是還在練電腦是嗎
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 還是怎麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 我聽不太懂
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 我聽起來
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 我回去那個來訂一下進度
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 我也覺得這樣
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 怎麼說我拖到一年
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 對對嘛
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 沒關係我趕快縮短期程這個不能等
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 真的我無意諷刺
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 但是因為我聽座講會覺得很納悶
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 會覺得很奇怪嘛
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 因為你上線要趕快調整就好了
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 這個我回去瞭解
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 你現在可以提前
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 因為我如果要跟你問
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 是你們主動巡邏到兒少性影像
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 並完成下家有幾件
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 我這個地步就要跟你問了
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 你現在還要再去搜索
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 不會啦
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 我現在回去我來
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 處長不要聽我嘛
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 他說你剛才這樣聽到我跟他剛才這樣聽我嘛
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 當然同仁是希望要達到百分之百
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 真的有可能百分之百
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 當然準確率
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 我是覺得他們自己本身
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 要達到百分之百
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 我想大家都會有這樣共同的期待
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 但是這種事情的應變
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 基本上不可能讓你
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 我想說你要準備一年的試運期
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 你就可以達到百分之一百
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 這個台語你講的騙鬼不吃水
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 好啦沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 現在是手的時機
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 沒關係我回去趕快跟保護師
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 你才這件事
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 真的你這樣
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 剛剛這樣導入我覺得實在是
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 很沒有道理
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 這個不是叫希望
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 這整個就是讓大家很失望
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 好嗎
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 所以你可能我們待會
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 你要是要傳疫情
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 你也要跟我說一下
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 等時可以正式來運作
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 因為那個千變萬化速度很快
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 我現在講因為是因為關係
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 衛福部也有規劃要同步納入
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 這個成本性影像犯罪案件
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 也是用相同處理的機制喔
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 所以這些措施
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 我想委員會還是本席都支持
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 也都希望衛福部繼續趕快完善
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 這同時我還是要請衛福部來
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 繼續關注校園這個電子煙的問題
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 國際署公布114年青少年吸煙行為調查結果
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 國中及高中生的學生電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 使用率分別為2.1%及5.18
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 推估至少有4萬名以上的青少年在使用電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 這個數據是應該不止啦
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 應該比這個
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 應該是幾倍以上
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 本席也在本委會一直強調
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 電子煙跟善氏煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 也就是一起毒品的一堆名詞
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 是深度版電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 就有高機率去接觸到這個善氏煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 這個我在委會已經講過N次以上了
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 那青少年去接觸到善氏煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 現在恐怕也不是單純的一個吸毒問題喔
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 我今天特別感謝周偉
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 排這個新疆大防治法與兒童性剝削條例
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 我這邊提供幾則新聞給各位做參考
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 那第一則各位可以看
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 假借替女網友治療意味性皮膚炎性侵
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 男判刑4年半
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 這個男子假借替女網友治療意味性皮膚炎
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 要到旅館
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 拿了一支電子煙給他抽
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 匡稱抽的時候可以改善他的意味性皮膚炎
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 那女網友不予有他
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 不料抽完婚說不行
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 那清醒發現下體停頓
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 助理沒有破裂
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 或者報警提告
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 那我們先不討論啦
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 但是這個整個就是一個犯罪行為
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 下一題
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 因為這個無視
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 送後妹哭完
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 不要
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 喪屍郎竟辯稱他自己脫衣
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 也是一個男子先用善氏煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 在我的路上約到一名未成年少女
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 在旅館進行性侵
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 因為在自己認識的女性友人
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 有飲酒的情況下
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 遞給他喪屍煙彈的電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 吸死
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 在女子接過電子煙吸死之後
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 有確認是不是正常的
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 這個男子當場也吸了一口已是安全
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 結果這個女子吸了一口之後
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 在酒精毒品這個成分的雙重加幾次下
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 這個女子馬上就陷入到無意識狀態
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 沒有安全措施被連續性侵三次
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 那下一個
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 拱少女吸食進階版的喪屍毒品
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 喪屍毒品趁機分離輪抱
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 兩個人遭起訴
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 在新北
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 約一名未成年少女在車上將含有
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 這個液品帕尺的成分的電子煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 交給一名女子吸食
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 吸食之後就失去意識
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 兩男輪流在車內進行性交
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 第四案
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 喪屍煙彈輪流性侵工具
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 二男毒害國中少女拍性影像
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 這個內容我再簡單講一下
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 二男在他住戶處
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 先後兩度邀請未滿16歲的迷你到場
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 二男身為不軌提供
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 俗稱的喪屍煙彈的電子煙給迷你
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 在吸食後
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 迷你一咬笑發作導致中心神經受損
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 整個人陷入昏迷恍惚
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 然後機要不自主的抽動
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 最後昏迷再闖
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 然後A欄又再度
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 約會也到桃園另外的主居所
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 然後故技重施提供喪屍煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 即便迷你曾口頭拒絕
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transcript.whisperx[244].text A欄還是趁這個要笑發作
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 意識模糊就強行猥褻
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 我為什麼要講這四個案件
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 全部通通是利用電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 喪屍煙彈來進行犯案
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 然後成員衛生員的女性都有
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 甚至有的警覺
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 到最後被騙
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 然後都在非自願的情況下被侵害
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 現在這個電子煙加喪屍煙彈
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 在街頭上又可能隨時害人家的生命
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 然後列入這些心存不軌的人的手上
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 也會變成摧毀人一生的毒氣
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 我想台灣已經嚴禁止的東西
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 我助理今天在苦果上隨便搜一搜
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 找到這種購買的網頁
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 到今天這個時間仍然還存在
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 請次長各位長官看一下
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 當你的親戚當你的子女
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 當你周遭的人
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 一直在這樣的一個環境下
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 你看這會造成什麼樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 令人沒有辦法期待
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 更有希望的一個青少年的未來
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 我這個不用挑
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 苦果第一月就跳出來
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 點進去還能加LINE
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 因為這個是國會直播
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 所以這些資料會被遮蔽掉
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 我們會不會提供給次長
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 還有我們書畫部請證書
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 現在還在
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 而且我記得好像是前兩天
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 不曉得什麼狀況有被下架
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 然後不到一天兩天他又上來了
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 所以我剛剛在講你們要處理這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 這整個系統的開發進入適應運作期
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 之前政府會講是8月
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 現在變成9月
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 然後要建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[284].text 開始正式的一個處理的時候
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 還要等到明年的9月
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 就是看不到希望
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 衛福部在後端用科技下架
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 性波學影像
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 但前端賣這種電子產品的網頁
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transcript.whisperx[290].text 一直出現
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 一直讓有心人能夠輕易取得到這些東西
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 作為毒品的載具
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 你這個到底要怎麼防範
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 這類的事件你們要怎麼防範
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 當然不是只有衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[296].text NCC書畫部全政署
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transcript.whisperx[297].text 所有單位都要動起來
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 對沒錯
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transcript.whisperx[299].text 那次長你可以先簡單
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 這個真的是
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 這種上次煙誕造成的這個社會的危害
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 真的很嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 那我們這裡面其實
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transcript.whisperx[305].text 我們有一個跨部會的一個
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 就是陳虎委員剛剛說的
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 他有司法機關海關數位數發部
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 這裡面就衛福部這邊
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 我們主要大概會
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transcript.whisperx[310].text 我們會從源頭的部分
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 來盡量來
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 不是盡量我們必須
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 來減少違法產品的流通跟使用
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 這邊我是不是也請
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 國建署這邊再做一個相關的報告
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 請說明
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 請說明
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 我要講說這個你不要主動巡查
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 你們什麼時候可以實時進行監控與防堵
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 還是現在都還沒有
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 目前在做這個相關電子煙防治的部分
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 確實陳虎委員關心的部分
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 我們目前跟數發部
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 還有這個相關的單位
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 已經在做相關的防查
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 再協助找到相關的資訊
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transcript.whisperx[329].text 我現在在幫數發部答覆
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transcript.whisperx[330].text 那你可以一併答覆
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transcript.whisperx[331].text 數發部在8月1號一直到今天
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 防止下架類似這樣的產品有幾件
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transcript.whisperx[333].text 我跟你講我們從678
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transcript.whisperx[334].text 這是國建署要幫他回答的
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 那就請國建署持續幫他回答
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transcript.whisperx[336].text 今天是8月1號到今天26號嗎
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transcript.whisperx[337].text 我們一個月時間
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transcript.whisperx[338].text 防堵下架這樣的案件有幾件
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transcript.whisperx[339].text 為什麼這個已經下架
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 然後馬上起死回生
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transcript.whisperx[341].text 這你們有掌握到嗎
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transcript.whisperx[342].text 以這一件來講
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transcript.whisperx[343].text 市長 數發部只要接受到相關違法的網域
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 或是網頁一定會立即做下架的程序
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transcript.whisperx[345].text 統計數字可能我們可能要
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transcript.whisperx[346].text 還要再統計之後才會跟委員說
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 我們要再統計才能
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 那不然6月
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 因為我們是在6、7月就開始討論一頭民死
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 我也講說電子間跟一頭民死
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 一頭民死就是深度的綁在一塊
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transcript.whisperx[354].text 這個已經是一個現在進行式
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transcript.whisperx[355].text 那你們現在看到這個東西很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[356].text 這個有被下架
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transcript.whisperx[357].text 然後再跑上來的
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transcript.whisperx[358].text 這個什麼狀況
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transcript.whisperx[359].text 能不能打入我一下
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transcript.whisperx[360].text 像這樣的樣態是什麼狀況
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transcript.whisperx[362].text 然後他連QR Code都還留著
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transcript.whisperx[363].text 你們要幫我回答我幾件沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[364].text 不勉強
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transcript.whisperx[365].text 那他已經被下架
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transcript.whisperx[368].text 可以怎麼應應
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transcript.whisperx[369].text 你們怎麼處置
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transcript.whisperx[370].text 委員只要有任何發現這個
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 有任何網域有需要下架
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 我們會立即做下架的程序
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 那其實我們也在持續的
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 做相關的這個收集或下架程序
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 不是 我只是講
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 我說用這個實例來講也聽嘛
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 這個之前被下架
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 不到一天兩天就又跑上來了
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 這個你們到底怎麼應應處理
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transcript.whisperx[380].text 你就簡單跟委員做個說明
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transcript.whisperx[381].text 還是你不曉得這個
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transcript.whisperx[382].text 這個實例上
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transcript.whisperx[383].text 還是你不曉得這樣的一個樣態
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 其實我們只要有碰到
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 只要有違法我就做下架
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transcript.whisperx[388].text 我現在已經沒有問你數字了
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transcript.whisperx[389].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[391].text 他被下架不到一兩天又跑上來
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transcript.whisperx[394].text 是不是有些問題
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transcript.whisperx[395].text 需要再去做調整修正
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 為了不打誤我的
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 那個機制還適應一年
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transcript.whisperx[399].text 委員我前面那個我先要補正
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transcript.whisperx[400].text 不可能一年我回去
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transcript.whisperx[401].text 除非你能夠補正我也要相信
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transcript.whisperx[402].text 但是你不能補正
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transcript.whisperx[403].text 不用一年不久
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 我們半年時間可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[406].text 半年好
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 你現在補正
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transcript.whisperx[409].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[410].text 主修作證
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transcript.whisperx[411].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 我給委員一個交代謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 你如果補正不久
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transcript.whisperx[415].text 那個機制又快速賣掉
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transcript.whisperx[416].text 還跟我說關鍵字還要去搜尋
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 還想要怎麼處理
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 處理符號
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[420].text 補正也不一定
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transcript.whisperx[421].text 我是不知道怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[422].text 但是那個
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transcript.whisperx[423].text 有很多委員在這裡都看到
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transcript.whisperx[424].text 我是我知道委員
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transcript.whisperx[425].text 沒有那跟不關你
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transcript.whisperx[426].text 你不要再說去旁邊去
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transcript.whisperx[427].text 我是譬如說
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transcript.whisperx[428].text 因為六月生命不一定
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transcript.whisperx[429].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[430].text 所以補正期間補一半
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transcript.whisperx[431].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[432].text 你自己補正
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transcript.whisperx[433].text 我們很好
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 這個先跟我回答
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transcript.whisperx[435].text 誰要下架後不一天再出
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transcript.whisperx[436].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[437].text 他其實就是會一直在換網域
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transcript.whisperx[439].text 我們就是兩個小時內會做相關的下架程序
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transcript.whisperx[440].text 兩個小時
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transcript.whisperx[441].text 這個從昨天到現在
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transcript.whisperx[442].text 但是因為這個可能要有相關的
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transcript.whisperx[443].text 有確定他做違法的時候
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transcript.whisperx[444].text 我們會做立即做下架的程序
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transcript.whisperx[445].text 這個就是違法
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transcript.whisperx[446].text 這個下面這兩支
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transcript.whisperx[447].text 一個粉紅色的
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transcript.whisperx[448].text 一個紫色的
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transcript.whisperx[449].text 他就是違法了
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transcript.whisperx[450].text 很明顯的標的物
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transcript.whisperx[451].text 這就是違法的標的物
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transcript.whisperx[452].text 不得在台灣的網狀上看得到
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transcript.whisperx[456].text 這樣好不好
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transcript.whisperx[457].text 你把這個
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transcript.whisperx[458].text 大致上我們就講三個月就好
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transcript.whisperx[459].text 六七八
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transcript.whisperx[460].text 也不到三個月
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transcript.whisperx[462].text 是不是揮霍給我
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transcript.whisperx[463].text 像這一個
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transcript.whisperx[464].text 已經認定是違法也要求他下架的
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transcript.whisperx[468].text 同屬這樣的一個廣告
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transcript.whisperx[472].text 同樣違法的這個廣告
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transcript.whisperx[483].text 應該都有
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transcript.whisperx[485].text 這位是
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transcript.whisperx[550].text 查完他們現在不是衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[551].text 各個單位
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transcript.whisperx[552].text 他這個案例就衛福部負責
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transcript.whisperx[553].text 我們這邊一旦收到之後
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transcript.whisperx[591].text 你們就是通通沒有人
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transcript.whisperx[592].text 你們的人就是我
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transcript.whisperx[597].text 剛剛什麼幾件事
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transcript.whisperx[602].text 你們怎麼做處分
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transcript.whisperx[603].end 1422
transcript.whisperx[603].text 然後現在又跑上來了
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transcript.whisperx[604].end 1424
transcript.whisperx[604].text 已經一天多了
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transcript.whisperx[605].end 1428
transcript.whisperx[605].text 那你們怎麼會這麼單位
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transcript.whisperx[606].end 1429
transcript.whisperx[606].text 通通沒有人
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transcript.whisperx[607].end 1431
transcript.whisperx[607].text 主張在提供給你衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[608].end 1434
transcript.whisperx[608].text 這個要怎麼做立即的處理
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transcript.whisperx[609].end 1438
transcript.whisperx[609].text 你不知道這一天
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transcript.whisperx[610].end 1440
transcript.whisperx[610].text 就多少情形兩邊都看到
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transcript.whisperx[611].end 1442
transcript.whisperx[611].text 你不知道這一天就對了
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transcript.whisperx[612].end 1443
transcript.whisperx[612].text 他的QR code就多了
transcript.whisperx[613].start 1443
transcript.whisperx[613].end 1446
transcript.whisperx[613].text 讓多少人做相關的這一連結
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transcript.whisperx[614].end 1448
transcript.whisperx[614].text 我是要講你們的音韻速度
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transcript.whisperx[615].end 1449
transcript.whisperx[615].text 是有問題的嘛
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transcript.whisperx[616].end 1451
transcript.whisperx[616].text 你跟我說有人對阿
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transcript.whisperx[617].end 1452
transcript.whisperx[617].text 有人就沒有人提供給你
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transcript.whisperx[618].end 1453
transcript.whisperx[618].text 我現在提供給你
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transcript.whisperx[619].end 1455
transcript.whisperx[619].text 那他多久可以下架
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transcript.whisperx[620].text 如果類似的案件
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transcript.whisperx[621].end 1458
transcript.whisperx[621].text 是像這個已經被下架
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transcript.whisperx[622].end 1460
transcript.whisperx[622].text 然後又馬上又上架
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transcript.whisperx[623].end 1461
transcript.whisperx[623].text 然後已經過了一天
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transcript.whisperx[624].end 1463
transcript.whisperx[624].text 二十四小時以上了
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transcript.whisperx[625].end 1464
transcript.whisperx[625].text 還到現在還沒有下架
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transcript.whisperx[626].end 1467
transcript.whisperx[626].text 那整個你們的機制是有問題的
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transcript.whisperx[627].end 1471
transcript.whisperx[627].text 委員這個報告是否允許
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transcript.whisperx[628].end 1473
transcript.whisperx[628].text 我直接結束了
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transcript.whisperx[629].end 1475
transcript.whisperx[629].text 我直接向處發部部長這樣
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transcript.whisperx[630].text 沒有啦我不會好
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transcript.whisperx[631].text 我不會好委員
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transcript.whisperx[632].end 1478
transcript.whisperx[632].text 我不會好
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transcript.whisperx[633].end 1479
transcript.whisperx[633].text 我不是直接問你
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transcript.whisperx[634].end 1480
transcript.whisperx[634].text 因為我問你不會好
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transcript.whisperx[635].end 1481
transcript.whisperx[635].text 現在醫託名詞
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transcript.whisperx[636].end 1483
transcript.whisperx[636].text 又多一個義秉帕茨
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transcript.whisperx[637].end 1485
transcript.whisperx[637].text 義秉帕茨6月在宜蘭
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transcript.whisperx[638].end 1488
transcript.whisperx[638].text 被迫到這個製毒的工廠
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transcript.whisperx[639].end 1490
transcript.whisperx[639].text 這兩個是同屬於家族
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transcript.whisperx[640].end 1492
transcript.whisperx[640].text 這是已經很嚴重的警訊
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transcript.whisperx[641].end 1494
transcript.whisperx[641].text 這種毒品的東西
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transcript.whisperx[642].end 1497
transcript.whisperx[642].text 跟電子煙深度板定的時候
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transcript.whisperx[643].end 1499
transcript.whisperx[643].text 對我們青少年的危害
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transcript.whisperx[644].end 1500
transcript.whisperx[644].text 當然啦
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transcript.whisperx[645].end 1503
transcript.whisperx[645].text 這個很難用言語去形容
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transcript.whisperx[646].end 1505
transcript.whisperx[646].text 那我剛剛開場白講說
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transcript.whisperx[647].end 1508
transcript.whisperx[647].text 國健署的調查公佈114年
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transcript.whisperx[648].text 青少年吸煙
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transcript.whisperx[649].end 1511
transcript.whisperx[649].text 行為調查結果
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transcript.whisperx[650].end 1512
transcript.whisperx[650].text 他是講吸煙
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transcript.whisperx[651].end 1515
transcript.whisperx[651].text 然後這個給國中及高中生
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transcript.whisperx[652].text 電子煙的使用頻率分點2.1%到5.1%
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transcript.whisperx[653].text 我們都很清楚沒有啦
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transcript.whisperx[654].text 是啦
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transcript.whisperx[655].text 是幾倍的
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transcript.whisperx[656].end 1527
transcript.whisperx[656].text 但你相對不是4萬名青少年
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transcript.whisperx[657].end 1528
transcript.whisperx[657].text 是幾萬名
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transcript.whisperx[658].end 1530
transcript.whisperx[658].text 然後他又拿來當成
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transcript.whisperx[659].end 1533
transcript.whisperx[659].text 他的性侵的犯罪的工具
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transcript.whisperx[660].end 1537
transcript.whisperx[660].text 現在開車後開一樣
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transcript.whisperx[661].end 1541
transcript.whisperx[661].text 青少年的這個女性
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transcript.whisperx[662].end 1543
transcript.whisperx[662].text 也因為如果吸食電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[663].end 1545
transcript.whisperx[663].text 他又更加危險
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transcript.whisperx[664].text 然後青少年的一個成長過程裡面
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transcript.whisperx[665].text 就因為電子煙
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transcript.whisperx[666].end 1552
transcript.whisperx[666].text 然後去一面取這樣的一個毒品
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transcript.whisperx[667].text 異童酶酯
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transcript.whisperx[668].end 1556
transcript.whisperx[668].text 還有這個異病帕子等等
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transcript.whisperx[669].text 所以你的所得
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transcript.whisperx[670].text 如果這樣
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transcript.whisperx[671].end 1560
transcript.whisperx[671].text 我們在委員會也不能夠講
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transcript.whisperx[672].end 1566
transcript.whisperx[672].text 我講話一直擺著的專案的討論
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transcript.whisperx[673].end 1568
transcript.whisperx[673].text 我沒有想這麼多話就對了
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transcript.whisperx[674].end 1571
transcript.whisperx[674].text 話說完了你們的所得萬機關停頭
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transcript.whisperx[675].end 1572
transcript.whisperx[675].text 不對啊
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transcript.whisperx[676].end 1575
transcript.whisperx[676].text 時間提醒到了
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transcript.whisperx[677].end 1576
transcript.whisperx[677].text 對不起
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transcript.whisperx[678].text 謝召委給我多一些時間
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transcript.whisperx[679].end 1580
transcript.whisperx[679].text 市長是不是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[680].text 你做一個整合
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transcript.whisperx[681].end 1583
transcript.whisperx[681].text 今天我只有三個題目而已
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transcript.whisperx[682].end 1586
transcript.whisperx[682].text 這三個題目是不是可以更具體的
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transcript.whisperx[683].end 1588
transcript.whisperx[683].text 然後你們應該怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[684].end 1590
transcript.whisperx[684].text 要有什麼樣的一個期限內
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transcript.whisperx[685].end 1592
transcript.whisperx[685].text 可以達到什麼樣的一個進展
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transcript.whisperx[686].end 1594
transcript.whisperx[686].text 然後給委員會所有人做參考
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transcript.whisperx[687].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[688].end 1596
transcript.whisperx[688].text 不然我們社外社會再追
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transcript.whisperx[689].end 1597
transcript.whisperx[689].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[690].end 1598
transcript.whisperx[690].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[691].end 1599
transcript.whisperx[691].text 感謝
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transcript.whisperx[692].end 1601
transcript.whisperx[692].text 謝謝劉靖國委員發言