| IVOD_ID |
171122 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171122 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-21T09:10:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-21T09:14:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:03:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:10:41 - 09:14:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員萬美玲等17人、委員林岱樺等18人分別擬具「水土保持法第二條條文修正草案」、委員林倩綺等16人擬具「水土保持法第三十三條條文修正草案」及台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「水土保持法第二十三條、第三十二條及第三十三條條文修正草案」案等2案。二、8月21日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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我支持普發現金 問題是發錢要有法律依據 |
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要經過國會 幾千億的國家支出 |
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絕對不能只靠一場記者會就來決定一切 |
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政府說AI紅利 全民共享 |
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上半年稅收創新高 經濟成長率也上修 |
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但是人民的日子有過得更好嗎 |
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大家都知道 其實沒有 |
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因為薪水追不上物價 房租越來越重 |
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一個便當動輒上百元 |
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一千元走進超市 一下就沒有了 |
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貧富差距越來越大 |
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所以我絕對支持發 |
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但不代表行政院可以跳過法律 |
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可以跳過國會 |
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由於我政府發錢 |
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為什麼一定要有法律的依據 |
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因為有法律才不會跳票 |
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有法律才不會黑箱 |
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有法律才是人民真正的權利 |
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以前陳旭海合法 人數還足夠的大法官 |
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當時的憲法法庭做過四至443號解釋 |
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他說到只要涉及重大公共利益的給付行政 |
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就必須要有法律依據 |
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記得這個是陳旭海合法時代的大法官 |
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明確的規定 |
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重大公共利益的給付行政 |
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一定要有法律依據 |
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90 |
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2023年蔡英文政府的時代 |
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90 |
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91.28 |
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意後特別條例 |
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91.28 |
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撲發六千元現金 |
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當時就是以特別條例 |
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送到立法院來審查 |
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99.36 |
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所以當年知道要立法 |
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100.92 |
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為什麼今天突然不用 |
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103.52 |
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為什麼今天可以突然的一個記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
103.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
就可以來跳過國會的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
110 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
行政院要用年度的總預算來撲發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
110 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
112.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
請問明年發了 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
112.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
後年有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
如果只是明年 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
116 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
117.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
只是一次性的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
117.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
那我們更應該把陳旭把對象說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
122.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
如果是未來要年年發 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
122.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
124.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
那更應該把這個制度說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
124.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
127.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
而不是每年看上億 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
127.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
129.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
開心不開心而決定要不要發 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
129.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
132.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
預算是決定政府可以花多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
132.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
而我們法律是這樣決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
136.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
我們政府該怎麼發 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
136.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
憑什麼發 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
發給誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
141.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
所以預算不能取代法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
141.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
143.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
行政權更不能取代立法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
143.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
行政權更不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
也不能取代司法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
149.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
來任意的批評哪一個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
149.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
151.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
是不是違憲而不去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
153.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
155.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
憲法把審議權交給立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
155.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
有它的道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
157.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
所以政府怎麼花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
157.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
160.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
應該攤在國會攤在人民面前 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
160.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
說的清清楚楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
163.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我支持發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
163.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
因為真的有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
我們有每天在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
167.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
169.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
淋雨曬太陽送餐的外送員 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
169.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
有每天熬夜的護理師 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
174.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
有每個為了孩子的學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
174.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
175.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
為了長輩的醫藥費 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
175.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
178.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
生活費在那苦惱的你跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
178.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
179.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
因為人民需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
179.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
所以依法應該要發 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
182 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
182 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
182.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
公開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
182.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
184.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
請受國會監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
184.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
最後記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
187.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
還稅於民 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
187.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
是人民應得的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
不是皇帝的恩賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
是人民的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
196.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
不是皇帝的恩賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
196.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
198.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
謝謝吳宗憲委的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
198.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
謝謝 |