| IVOD_ID |
171111 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171111 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-21T09:00:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-21T09:03:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:03:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3f5ba4dd156f1844901bae1c717e41441ce71f862b2c58e19c28f95b1bf5c26f4e85fd41815b697d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:00:18 - 09:03:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第23次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院經濟委員會報告併案審查委員萬美玲等17人、委員林岱樺等18人分別擬具「水土保持法第二條條文修正草案」、委員林倩綺等16人擬具「水土保持法第三十三條條文修正草案」及台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「水土保持法第二十三條、第三十二條及第三十三條條文修正草案」案等2案。二、8月21日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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主席謝謝 |
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主席各位同仁 大家早 |
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總統態大錯特錯 |
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錯把附屬當武器 |
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錯把治國搞對立 |
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我們要講 在這個禮拜 |
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行政院 又把立法院 |
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依法三讀通過的兩個法令 |
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給不附屬 |
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用不附屬這種完全不存在的權利 |
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來去否決民意電腦裡面 |
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做出來的決議 |
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行政院卓院長 |
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你真的大錯特錯 |
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而另外一個部分看到 |
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明年中華民國政府總預算 |
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史上最高3.9兆 |
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但是卻沒有把依法通過的 |
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軍人加薪條例以及警察人士條例 |
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等相關修法的預算給放進去 |
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我們要問 民進黨政府 |
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警察人員到底跟你們有什麼仇 |
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你們到底跟軍人有什麼仇 |
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為什麼總是在需要的時候 |
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要警察要軍人要消防人員 |
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在第一線 |
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但是真真正正給他們權利 |
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給他們應有的福利的時候 |
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卻一再漠視 |
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不附屬大錯特錯 |
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不只大錯特錯 |
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更是走火入魔 |
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因為我們聽到 |
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當卓院長受媒體專訪的時候 |
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還一直強調 |
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他是在開口閉口都說違憲 |
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但我們要講 |
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卓院長你有三大錯誤 |
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第一錯真正違憲的人 |
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是沒有依法行政的行政院 |
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真正違憲的人是憑空創造不附屬 |
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這種完全沒有根據權利的行政院 |
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第二錯 |
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如果真的違憲的話 |
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難道我們通過的衛廣法 |
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民進黨團也支持 |
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民進黨團也違憲了嗎 |
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我們通過的衛廣法 |
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NCC主管機關也同意這樣子修法 |
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NCC也違憲了嗎 |
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也因此在立法院交通委員會 |
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可以通過協商 |
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不用經過院會表決 |
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直接二三讀的法令 |
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都可以被行政院院長憑空捏造指責是違憲 |
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那這樣子以後相關修法 |
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還有利己可言嗎 |
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第三錯你沒有接受立法院韓國瑜院長 |
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調和鼎耐釋出的善意以及努力 |
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你只想身高對立 |
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你只想把它打成執政在野的對決 |
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160 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
163 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
但治國絕對不是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
163 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
台灣兩千三百五十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
更不希望看到這樣的事情一再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
167 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
169 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
也因此我們要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
169 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
如果委屈能夠求全的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
174 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
那委屈才有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
174 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
但現在很顯然行政院完全不接受這樣的善意 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
我們支持韓國瑜院長要強硬起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
並且要捍衛中華民國最高民意殿堂立法院的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
當全台兩千三百五十萬人的左右民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
193 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
都希望政府能夠好好施政 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
193 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
195 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
好好做事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
195 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
請總統太一院長不要再一意孤行 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
199 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
201 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
謝謝洪牧凱委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
201 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
我們接下來請林茜琪委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
張志倫委員請準備 |