| IVOD_ID |
171074 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171074 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
29 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T11:50:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T12:02:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0db75461a96d9b802cf878492343a2f62b450a12875ec880f0d91e61b44ec3a7a1134436d75394885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:50:32 - 12:02:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第29次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員賴惠員等17人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
二、審查委員洪孟楷等26人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
三、審查委員王世堅等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法增訂部分條文草案」案。
四、審查委員翁曉玲等21人擬具「刑事訴訟法第四百五十五條之四十六條文修正草案」案。
五、審查委員吳宗憲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
六、審查委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法部分條文修正草案」案。
七、審查委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「刑事訴訟法第三百十條條文修正草案」案。
【第六案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
【本次會議僅進行詢答】） |
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王委員世堅 |
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0 |
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18.4 |
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謝謝主席 我請司法院高秘書長 法務部黃次長 |
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18.4 |
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19.8 |
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請高秘書長 黃次長 |
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27.8 |
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高秘書長 我看來你是好為人師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
27.8 |
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30.8 |
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我很少來到司法委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
30.8 |
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這一次真的讓我活生生的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
33.8 |
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你是當場訓斥法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
38.8 |
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45.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
照說 神減變三方 是平等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
45.8 |
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48.8 |
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所以我不想跟你多講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
48.8 |
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只是提醒你 現在社會上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
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57.8 |
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對你可信任的公職人員的信任度 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
57.8 |
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60.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
不好意思 司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
60.8 |
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你們跟我們立法委員是在同一等級 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
64.8 |
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67.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
我們的信任度大概三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
67.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
71.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
大概是公職人員裡面最低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
71.8 |
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74.8 |
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我們還稍微比你們高一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
74.8 |
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77.8 |
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那也就是有七成的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
77.8 |
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80.8 |
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不相信我們的司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
80.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
84.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
當然 這是指司法判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
84.8 |
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90.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
那檢察官 法務部還比我們略高 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
90.8 |
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93.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
他們大概四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
93.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
95.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
所以這一點我要提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
95.8 |
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97.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
他們的信任度是四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
97.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
99.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
我希望不要說三成的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
99.8 |
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103.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
信任度三成的去教訓信任度四成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
103.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
106.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
兩邊要互相折衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
106.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
108.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
你們挑個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
108.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
113.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
另外就搭個擂台 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
113.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
115.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
生死狀簽一簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
115.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
117.8 |
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你們兩邊看怎麼去打 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
117.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
119.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
不要再立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
119.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
121.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
因為立法院不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
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只有法律專業的才可以進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
123.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
125.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
你剛剛那麼一教訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
125.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
127.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
我有點不敢上台質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
127.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
為什麼 因為我不是念法律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
135.8 |
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但是 司法就是要讓人民都能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
135.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
137.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
它整個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
137.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
139.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
我引用黃仁勳這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
139.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
141.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
他說我們人類 未來的人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
141.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
有三種能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
143.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
第一個能力就是講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
147.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
敘事力 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
147.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
150.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
story telling |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
150.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
152.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
要釐清邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
152.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
精確傳達 核心價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
155.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
157.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
法律是外人民服務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
157.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
159.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
要講到人民都能夠懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
159.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
161.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
那不要那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
161.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
162.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
高高在上 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
162.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
做知軍 做知識那個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
去教訓其他單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
167.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
168.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
168.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
法律是固然要有專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
171.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
174.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
但是也容許我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
174.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
人民有不同的感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
175.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
比方說我舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
我們蔡總統在三年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
183.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
她就講過 她說 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
183.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
185.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
司法改革的領頭羊 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
185.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
188.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
就是國民法官制 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
188.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
190.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
所以三年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
190.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
192.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
在蔡總統任內 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
192.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
194.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
她推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
194.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
196.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
國民法官制就實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
196.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
實施啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
這三年多來 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
199.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
202.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
國民法官制其實頗受好評 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
202.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
204.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
但是我比較不懂的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
204.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
206.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
這三年來 我們國民法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
206.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
211.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
總共有489件收案 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
211.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
214.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
裡面有157件 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
214.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
217.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
高達36% |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
217.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
220.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
被司法院轉軌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
220.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
222.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
就轉軌啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
222.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
223.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
你們轉軌的 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
223.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
225.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
我先做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
225.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
227.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
人家日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
227.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
230.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
日本他們的這個審判制 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
230.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
是國民裁判員制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
232.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
235.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
就等同於我們的國民法官制 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
235.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
237.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
她實施了16年 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
237.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
240.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
總共受理的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
240.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
243.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
20167件 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
243.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
244.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
她16年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
244.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
246.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
2萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
246.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
247.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
轉軌的件數 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
247.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
250.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
也不過65件 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
250.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
253.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
253.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
255.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
到底我們的司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
255.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
258.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
你們有沒有尊重國民法官制 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
258.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
這一點我打了很大的問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
261.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
那陳如 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
261.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
262.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
我剛剛看你的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
262.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
264.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
我就知道你們就是不尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
264.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
266.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
你們認為法律就是一定要法律的轉捩 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
266.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
所以你們用 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
你們不准 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
不准說 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
273.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
國民法官制說要轉軌的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
273.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
274.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
你們就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
274.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
277.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
這個審查程序太繁複啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
277.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
279.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
需要高度的轉捩 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
279.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
審查程序繁複 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
我們可以延長審理時間不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
要高度轉捩 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
有很多需要用鑑定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
那你只要讓被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
可以詢問這個鑑定人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
我不跟你多浪費時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
297.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
我還是簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
297.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
299.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
那個周其仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
302.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
是不是因為我剛才提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
302.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
303.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
我遲到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
303.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
305.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
305.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
307.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
所以是不是請給我幾分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
307.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
308.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
我簡單說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
308.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
309.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
我這一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
309.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
312.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
我提的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
312.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
314.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
這個徵修條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
314.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
316.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
刑事訴訟法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
316.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
317.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
鑑定條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
317.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
318.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我提了四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
318.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
320.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
1985年 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
320.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
322.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
在聯合國有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
322.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
324.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
324.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
326.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
司法基本原則宣言 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
326.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
328.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
它裡面第四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
328.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
329.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
它講的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
329.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
331.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
它說犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
331.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
336.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
應受同情及尊重之對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
336.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
339.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
其所受之損害 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
339.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
343.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
應得透過司法程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
343.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
346.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
迅速獲得救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
346.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
347.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
而且第五點 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
347.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
348.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
它還規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
348.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
350.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
司法及行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
350.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
351.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
應建立制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
351.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
353.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
或採取必要之加強措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
353.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
355.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
使犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
355.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
357.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
得透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
357.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
迅速公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
359.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
361.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
而且方便之正式 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
361.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
363.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
非正式之程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
363.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
以獲得救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
365.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那我們的司法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
367.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
369.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
大法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
369.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
372.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
釋字507號解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
372.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
373.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
也有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
373.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
他認為憲法第十二條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
375.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
377.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
人民有訴訟之權 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
377.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
379.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
此項權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
379.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
此項權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
亦包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
381.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
384.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
人民尋求刑事司法救濟在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
384.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
385.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
388.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
人民因權力遭受非法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
388.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
加害之行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
390.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
392.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
因而應負刑事責任者 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
392.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
394.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
394.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
有請求司法機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
396.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
給予偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
追溯審判之權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
400.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
402.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
此項權力之行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
402.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
405.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
國家應應提供制度性之保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
405.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
408.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
408.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
409.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
大法官都解釋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
409.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
411.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
刑事程序被害人的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
411.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
413.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那不僅這個是國際潮流 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
413.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
416.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
這也符合我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
416.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
419.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
刑事人權保障的重要指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
419.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我說我提了這四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
423.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
我認為要增定這四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
423.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
這四點就是我簡單說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
425.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
428.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
第55之一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
428.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
430.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
我認為要增定 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
430.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
433.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
要建構資訊防火牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
433.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
436.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
也就是阻絕合法的文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
436.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
438.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
淪為二次傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
438.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
439.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
淪為二次傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
439.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
441.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
也就是可以讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
441.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
443.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
可以讓被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
443.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
446.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
來要求說是不是將文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
446.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
448.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
去識別化 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
448.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
450.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
保護他們的個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
450.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
452.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
他們已經一度被害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
452.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
455.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
那如果個資在外線是二度被害 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
455.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
456.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
第二點就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
456.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
458.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
我希望落實資的權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
458.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
462.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
強化跟檢察官的實質溝通效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
462.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
465.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
也就是說犯罪被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
465.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
467.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
真正需要的往往不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
467.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
468.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
重要的刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
468.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
469.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
其實不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
469.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
471.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
其實最重要的他是要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
471.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
474.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
案件是如何進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
474.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
476.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
證據是如何評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
476.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
478.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
判決是如何行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
478.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
這一些應該讓被害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
483.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
能夠適度的知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
483.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
486.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
他能夠適度的跟檢察官做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
486.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
489.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
那第455之49 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
489.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
493.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
我認為要明定補充結問權 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
493.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
496.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
也就是說引進被害人的視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
496.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
500.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
來拼湊犯罪事實的全貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
500.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
503.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
被害人畢竟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
503.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
505.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
他是在犯罪現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
505.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
507.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
他很理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
507.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
510.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
所以如果我們為了發現具體事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
510.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
511.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
那麼應該明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
511.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
514.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
檢辯雙方在詢問完畢以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
514.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
516.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
訴訟參與人 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
516.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
518.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
得申請審判長許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
518.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
520.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
審判長許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
520.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
521.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
就是你們司法這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
521.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
523.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
你們許可啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
523.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
529.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
那他應該可以來結問被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
529.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
533.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
也就是說避免證人虛偽 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
533.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
535.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
或者避重就輕的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
535.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
537.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
因為他在場嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
537.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
539.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
他非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
539.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
542.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
最後我又再甄定一條455之50 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
542.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
548.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
也就是說讓被害人可以直面 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
548.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
直接面告這個被告 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
554.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
要求釐清你的動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
554.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
559.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
你要兼顧監獄權保障權情緒平穩 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
559.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
565.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
我們應該賦予訴訟參與人金許可後 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
565.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
567.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
還是要歸願許可啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
567.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
571.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
那麼可以就犯罪動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
571.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
574.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
對損害之認知還有犯後態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
574.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
576.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
等這些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
576.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
579.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
直接向被告進行詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
579.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
583.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我覺得這幾點才能夠確保被害人 |
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他們在司法訴訟的過程當中 |
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他們應有的權益 |
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我再一次強調 |
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法律是為人民服務 |
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被害人最無辜啦 |
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那加害人要敢做敢當 |
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當然他們可以辯護 |
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那我也另外再給你補充一點 |
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去年你回去查查看 |
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我們用在法律服務這個扶助的錢 |
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這是我們公家編的15億 |
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我們15億裡面 |
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竟然有八成是用在這些加害人 |
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尤其死刑犯 |
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還有剩下35位死刑犯 |
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他們每一位都聘請三位律師 |
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這可誤到幾點 |
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已經最正確著 |
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最無可換了 |
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所以這我再一次請你 |
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我請你回去查清楚 |
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我們這15億是要幫助弱勢 |
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他受害 |
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而且他沒有辦法自己來去爭取 |
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所以他也沒有錢聘請律師 |
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我們是要輔助他們這些人才對啊 |
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如果被告加害人 |
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他沒有錢申請也OK |
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但是比例不是這個樣子 |
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哪有說讓還死刑犯還聘三個律師 |
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真是個心靈 |
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所以那個高院長 |
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高秘書長 |
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我已經尊重你院長 |
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你再繼續這樣子 |
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繼續強硬下去 |
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有一天你可能會當到院長 |
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我再一次提醒你 |
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要認清楚 |
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司法法律必須專業沒有錯 |
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但是法律不外乎就是要服務人民 |
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要跟人民站在一起 |
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你要以人民不懂法律的視角 |
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來做裁判來做表達 |
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這才是正確的 |
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好謝謝 |