| IVOD_ID |
171066 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171066 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
26 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T11:25:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T11:30:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0db75461a96d9b8015c0166ac758cb9d33233deda428b7b2d62701491950973f9b6e307be05129615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:25:29 - 11:30:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第26次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、運動部首長、行政院公共工程委員會首長、財政部首長、教育部首長、交通部首長及文化部首長就「參考國際經驗加速推動我國大型多功能智慧運動館建設：完善北中南區域佈局、健全開發營運機制、改善職業運動環境、促進運動產業發展、擴大展演及觀光經濟之綜合評估」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 下位 請醫院罪 |
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主要請運動部 |
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運動部的誰 |
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市長 |
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運動部黃次 |
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市長 |
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市長 |
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因為今天在經濟委員會 |
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談這個運動產業 |
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那我想問一下有關運動財卷的問題 |
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現在這個里昂部長 |
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40 |
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他自己也都講 |
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44 |
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運動財卷其實對於運動 |
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44 |
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的產業的發展貢獻很多 |
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47 |
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50 |
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像去年大概運動產業的 |
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50 |
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54 |
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總共的銷售達到新台幣709億 |
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54 |
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那挹注運動發展基金是超過77.6億 |
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那所以換言之 |
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62 |
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如果我們的運動財卷的銷售越好的話 |
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那投注在運動發展基金的錢就越多 |
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這個運動部一定都樂見 |
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那我不知道說運動部有沒有 |
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因為你成立運動部了 |
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75 |
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有沒有特別針對運動財卷 |
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75 |
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78 |
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怎麼樣做一些革新 |
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78 |
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81 |
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讓更多人願意來購買運動財卷 |
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81 |
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83 |
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就是刺激大家來購買 |
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83 |
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86 |
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然後又再呈現一個正面的循環 |
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86 |
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88 |
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這個部分最近有沒有一些 |
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88 |
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90 |
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新的做法的規劃 |
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90 |
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92 |
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持續的讓我們的運動財卷的發行 |
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92 |
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95 |
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更加的有力一直是我們的目標 |
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95 |
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96 |
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那我們就會有定期的 |
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96 |
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98 |
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跟運動財卷發行的公司 |
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98 |
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100 |
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做一個我們有個督導小組 |
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100 |
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102 |
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就在下個禮拜前要召開會議 |
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102 |
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104 |
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講結論就好就是最近有沒有什麼 |
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104 |
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106 |
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準備一些新的做法出來 |
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106 |
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108 |
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目前還是按照他們自己的規劃 |
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108 |
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109 |
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都還是既定的是不是 |
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109 |
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110 |
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對 |
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110 |
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111 |
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是 既定的 |
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111 |
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114 |
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好那講幾個我覺得運動迷關心的 |
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114 |
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118 |
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因為像他們在買這些運動財卷的時候 |
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118 |
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122 |
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比如說其他國家的職業的賽事都可以買 |
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122 |
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126 |
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但是對於台灣的有一些的職業賽事 |
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126 |
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127 |
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就沒辦法買 |
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127 |
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130 |
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例如說像直籃 |
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130 |
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132 |
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或是最近的那個職業排球 |
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132 |
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134 |
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那不曉得為什麼 |
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134 |
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136 |
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有些就很多人都在問 |
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136 |
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139 |
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直籃跟職業排球這種為什麼就沒辦法 |
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139 |
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140 |
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是什麼原因 |
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140 |
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143 |
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因為從彩劍發行公司的角度來看 |
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143 |
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146 |
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公平跟安全是最重要的 |
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146 |
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147 |
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公平跟安全 |
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147 |
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151 |
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我們擔心的是後面有人去操弄結果 |
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151 |
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155 |
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所以運彩會影響到後面的結果 |
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155 |
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157 |
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這個應該是防弊的問題 |
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157 |
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160 |
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何不是說因為這樣子就不買運彩 |
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160 |
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162 |
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因為你這樣子講的話 |
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162 |
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164 |
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會讓大家認為說好像 |
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164 |
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167 |
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只要有項目開放買運彩 |
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167 |
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170 |
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就可能有被操作的可能 |
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170 |
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172 |
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我覺得這樣子蠻奇怪的 |
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172 |
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174 |
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因為運彩既然是國家發行的 |
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174 |
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177 |
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當然相關弊端國家必須要去防止 |
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177 |
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180 |
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第二件事情是我們其實是可以 |
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180 |
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182 |
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其實是有地下賭盤的 |
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182 |
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183 |
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您應該知道這個事 |
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183 |
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知道 |
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184 |
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那如果操控賽事結果 |
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187 |
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191 |
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應該是地下賭盤會比運彩影響的更大嗎 |
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191 |
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所以我覺得這應該是兩件事情 |
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您是完全認為說因為怕操控賽事 |
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197 |
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199 |
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所以不願意開放國內的職業 |
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199 |
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201 |
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不是全部不開放 |
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201 |
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202 |
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只有部分開放 |
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202 |
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那為什麼有的就不怕被操控賽事 |
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206 |
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然後有的就怕了 |
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210 |
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他現在在職棒那一塊做得比較完整 |
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所以他們有開放部分的職棒的標的 |
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作為運彩開放的一個內部 |
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| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
220 |
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那所以現在是職籃跟排球做得不好 |
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220 |
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還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
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那有沒有朝那個方向呢 |
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我們會持續跟運彩運勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
225 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
227 |
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運動部的態度如果是說 |
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227 |
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231 |
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反正拿一個藉口擋在前面 |
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231 |
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我們要開放因為怕操控賽事 |
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233 |
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你就不會去解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
235 |
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238 |
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但如果你考慮的是說運彩這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
238 |
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239 |
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我們要讓它更蓬勃 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
239 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
242 |
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然後希望能夠更多資金去投入這個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
242 |
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你就會想辦法去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
246 |
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去把你的問題排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
246 |
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250 |
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所以如果你的顧慮是你怕被操縱的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
250 |
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252 |
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應該去思考怎麼不被操縱 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
252 |
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253 |
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而不是說因為我怕被操縱 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
253 |
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255 |
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所以我根本我就不考慮這兩個 |
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255 |
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258 |
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那我覺得很多球迷會傷心 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
258 |
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260 |
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會覺得態度很消極 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
264 |
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所以是希望說運動部可以朝開放的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
264 |
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266 |
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當然該避免的要想辦法避免 |
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但是要朝開放的態度去 |
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270 |
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我們的確是朝著方向在努力沒有錯 |
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270 |
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272 |
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的確是我們希望它能夠更蓬勃 |
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272 |
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276 |
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但是從發行端他們顧慮的 |
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276 |
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278 |
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我們必須要先能夠讓他提出回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
278 |
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279 |
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我們才敢說可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
279 |
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280 |
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否則 |
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280 |
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281 |
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那你們是 |
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281 |
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283 |
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譬如說像我一開始就開桌名義我就問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
283 |
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285 |
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就是說你們朝那個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
285 |
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286 |
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那你們一定會啟程 |
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286 |
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289 |
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譬如說我希望哪一年或者是半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
289 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
291 |
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可以開放多少項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
291 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
然後用這種目標去解決問題會這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
294 |
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296 |
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還是說就是每天就 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
296 |
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298 |
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我們不能夠直接定項目 |
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300 |
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我們在跟他討論這件事情的時候 |
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300 |
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301 |
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我們不能夠定下說 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
301 |
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304 |
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你一定要在幾個月之內開放幾個項目 |
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304 |
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306 |
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這個從公司的營運角度不是 |
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306 |
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307 |
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我知道老師因為 |
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307 |
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因為市長我跟您的資訊感覺都是找很多理由 |
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但是我認為還是希望既然成立運動部了 |
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希望能夠設定目標然後 |
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317 |
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針對目標去想解決的方法 |
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而不是每次都是把理由推出來 |
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我覺得運動會期待運動部多做一些事情 |
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好謝謝 |
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327 |
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328 |
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謝謝 |
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328 |
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330 |
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來請回座 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:25:29+08:00 |
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主席好，請運動部次長。 |
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主席 |
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2026-08-19T11:25:52+08:00 |
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請運動部黃次長。 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:25:54.500000+08:00 |
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1 |
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委員，你好。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:25:59.500000+08:00 |
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次長好。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:26:00.400000+08:00 |
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今天在經濟委員會談運動產業，我想問一下有關於運動彩券的問題，現在李洋部長自己也講運動彩券其實對於運動產業的發展貢獻很多，像去年大概運動彩券總共銷售達到新臺幣709億，挹注運動發展基金超過77.6億，換言之，運動彩券的銷售越好，投注在運動發展基金的錢就越多，這個運動部一定都樂見。是。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:26:37+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:26:49.307692+08:00 |
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那我不知道運動部成立以後，有沒有特別針對運動彩券作怎麼樣的革新，讓更多人願意來購買運動彩券？ |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:26:50+08:00 |
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就是刺激大家來購買，讓它呈現一個正面的循環，在這個部分最近有沒有一些新的做法？ |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:26:59+08:00 |
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持續的讓運動彩券的發行更加有利，一直是我們的目標，我們有個督導小組，會定期跟運動彩券發行的公司作……，就在下個禮拜會召開這樣的會議。 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:11+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:14.800000+08:00 |
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講結論就好，就是最近有沒有準備一些新的做法出來？ |
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1 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:15+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:16.846154+08:00 |
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目前還是按照他們自己的規劃。 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:17+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:19+08:00 |
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都還是既定的，是不是？是。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:20.428571+08:00 |
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我講幾個運動迷關心的重點，他們在買這些運動彩券的時候，比如其他國家的職業賽事都可以買，但是臺灣有一些職業賽事就沒辦法買，例如職籃或最近的職業排球，不曉得為什麼會這樣？ |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:43.666667+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:47.812500+08:00 |
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很多人都在問，職籃跟職業排球為什麼就沒辦法買？ |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:48+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:27:48.800000+08:00 |
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是什麼原因？ |
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1 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-08-19T11:27:49+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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2026-08-19T11:27:59.733333+08:00 |
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因為從彩券發行公司的角度來看，公平跟安全是最重要的，我們擔心的是後面有人去操弄結果。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:00+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:05.800000+08:00 |
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所以運彩會影響到後面的結果，這個應該是防弊的問題。是。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:06.214286+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:08.785714+08:00 |
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而不是說因為這樣就不賣運彩。 |
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0.846 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:08.785714+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:09.785714+08:00 |
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所以它相對保守。 |
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0 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:09.444444+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:12.111111+08:00 |
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你這樣講的話，會讓大家認為…… |
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1 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:12.111111+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:13.111111+08:00 |
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他還是有發行。 |
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葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:12.555556+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:25.785714+08:00 |
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好像只要有項目開放買運彩，就有被操作的可能，我覺得這樣滿奇怪的，因為運彩既然是國家發行的，那當然相關的弊端國家必須要去防止。 |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-08-19T11:28:26+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:32.500000+08:00 |
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第二件事情是我們其實是有地下賭盤的，你應該知道這個事。知道。 |
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0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-08-19T11:28:34+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:47.833333+08:00 |
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操控賽事結果應該是地下賭盤會比運彩影響的更大，所以我覺得這應該是兩件事情，您是完全認為因為怕操控賽事，所以不願意開放國內的職業…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-08-19T11:28:48+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:50.833333+08:00 |
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不是全部不開放，只有部分開放。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-08-19T11:28:51+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:28:55.714286+08:00 |
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那為什麼有的就不怕被操縱賽事、有的就怕呢？ |
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0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-08-19T11:28:56.200000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-08-19T11:29:04.636364+08:00 |
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現在職棒那一塊做得比較完整，所以他們有開放部分的職棒標的作為運彩開放的內容。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:05.266667+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:08.733333+08:00 |
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所以現在是職籃跟職業排球做得不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:09+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:09.666667+08:00 |
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還沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:10+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-08-19T11:29:11.800000+08:00 |
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那有沒有朝那個方向推動呢？ |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:12+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-08-19T11:29:13.400000+08:00 |
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我們會持續跟運彩公司…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:14+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:23.777778+08:00 |
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因為如果現在運動部的態度如果是，反正拿一個藉口擋在前面，就說沒有要開放，因為怕他們操縱賽事，你就不會去解決問題嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:24+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:34.250000+08:00 |
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但如果你考慮的是要讓運彩更蓬勃，希望能夠有更多資金投入這個產業，你就會想辦法去溝通，排除你的問題嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:34.250000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:35.250000+08:00 |
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是的，我們的確是希望它更蓬勃。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:35+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:29:56.800000+08:00 |
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所以如果你的顧慮是怕被操縱的話，應該去思考怎麼樣不被操縱，而不是說因為我怕被操縱，所以我根本不考慮，這樣我覺得很多球迷會傷心，會覺得你們的態度很消極，希望運動部可以朝開放的態度，當然該避免的要想辦法避免，但是要朝開放的態度去…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-08-19T11:29:57+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:08.500000+08:00 |
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我們的確是朝這方向在努力，沒有錯，我們是希望它能夠更蓬勃，但是從發行端他們所顧慮的，我們必須要先能夠讓他提出回答，我們才敢說可以做，否則…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:10.470588+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:14.875000+08:00 |
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我一開始就開宗明義的問，你們朝那個目標前進，那你們有沒有一定的期程？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.677 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:15+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:22.823529+08:00 |
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譬如希望哪一年或者是半年可以開放多少項目，然後用這種目標去解決問題，會這樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:22.823529+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:23.911765+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
還是每天行禮如儀的跟他們討論一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:23.911765+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:25+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:25+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:34.833333+08:00 |
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我們在跟公司討論這件事的時候，不能夠直接定下，你一定要在幾個月之內開放幾個項目，這個從公司營運的角度，不是這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:34.833333+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:35.833333+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:35+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:47.818182+08:00 |
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我知道，我質詢您，感覺您都是找很多理由啦，但是我認為既然成立運動部了，還是希望能夠設定目標，然後針對目標去想解決的方法…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:47.818182+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:48.818182+08:00 |
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好，謝謝，時間到。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
葉委員元之 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:48+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:56.500000+08:00 |
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而不是每次都把理由推出來，我覺得運動迷會期待運動部多做一些事情，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:57.500000+08:00 |
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2026-08-19T11:30:58.500000+08:00 |
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謝謝，請回座。 |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-08-19T11:30:59+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-08-19T11:31:27+08:00 |
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登記發言委員除不在場者之外，均已發言完畢，詢答結束；委員傅崐萁、邱議瑩、徐欣瑩、蘇清泉、張嘉郡所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報；書面質詢和未及答復部分，請相關單位於一周之內以書面答復，並副知本會，委員另有要求期限者，從其所定。 |
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0 |