| IVOD_ID |
171057 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171057 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-22,15-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T10:52:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T11:03:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:55 - 11:03:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
(一) 委員黃仁等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(二) 委員高金素梅等24人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(四) 委員林倩綺等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(五) 委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(六) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
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好主席 |
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各位委員 |
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有請教育部次長還有研議會的副主委 |
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好請張廖次長杜張副主委 |
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好委員好 |
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這個108年5月24號 |
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立法院三讀修正 |
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前文修正原住民族教育法 |
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而當時是開了很多次的會議之後 |
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三讀通過 |
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而行政院版本是在三讀通過的前十幾天 |
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送到這個立法院 |
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我們看行政院版原住民族教育法第15條 |
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當初也提出設立各級原住民族學校 |
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前向原住民族學校設立思想 |
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另以法律定之 |
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108年公佈施行 |
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5月24號公佈施行到現在 |
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已經非常多年了 |
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我們看這個原住民族教育法第4條 |
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第一項第4款 |
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原住民族學校的定義 |
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86 |
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以原住民族知識體系為主 |
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依該民族教育哲學以目標實施教育之學校 |
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91 |
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原住民族教育法第7條 |
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中央教育主管機關 |
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與中央原住民族主管機關 |
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105 |
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應共同召開原住民族教育政策會 |
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111 |
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其中政策會要相關的規劃諮詢 |
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包含了 |
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第二建構原住民族知識體系中長程機關 |
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所以這個部分是 |
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原住民族知識體系的建構 |
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這個是教育部跟研民會共同召開 |
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這樣的一個很重要的議題 |
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我要談的是說 |
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從108年5月20號公佈施行之後 |
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事實上立法院在109年5月21號 |
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就審查過原住民族學校法 |
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而且還開了兩次 |
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審查了兩次 |
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我們看這個教育部的報告 |
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那個查件 |
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這個教育部的報告裡面 |
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他支持原住民族學校之設立 |
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而且頭本提到主管機關 |
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應該維持原住民族委會 |
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所謂的維持 |
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次長你所謂的維持 |
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並不是立法院的決議 |
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也不是原住民族教育法的規定 |
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是行政院召開會議之後所做的決定 |
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所以它不是法律的規定 |
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是可以調整可以討論的 |
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是可以討論的 |
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所以在這樣的一個前提之下 |
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我們看 |
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在我們教育部的報告裡面認為 |
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還是要由研民會擔任主管機關 |
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研民會在6月25號的報告裡面提到 |
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由研民會負責管理相對缺乏經驗 |
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原住民族學校由研民會負責管理相對缺乏經驗 |
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所以研民會要做的是什麼 |
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你們要提報給行政院 |
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提報給行政院應該要由教育部 |
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你做不來 |
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應該是要這樣 |
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而不是一直拖拖到現在 |
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從108年5月拖到現在 |
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立法院開過109年開過公聽會 |
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也審查過 |
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我們吳立法委員在這一屆 |
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也看到公聽會今天有審查 |
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但是現在完全沒有辦法有一個進度 |
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所以在這樣的一個情形之下 |
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研民會不要一直事辦 |
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你看上次你的報告說 |
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286 |
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289 |
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推動原住民族學校事辦計畫 |
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289 |
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293 |
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然後以公辦名言模式委託 |
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293 |
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297 |
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財團法人原住民族研究發展基金會 |
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302 |
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辦理桃園區新中國小實驗教育 |
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302 |
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實驗教育還要這樣 |
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實驗教育不是第一手 |
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而且乙發基金會不是主管的業務 |
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313 |
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317 |
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乙發基金會是以言為主 |
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317 |
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321 |
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原住民族學校是以知識體系 |
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321 |
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324 |
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原住民族知識體系為主的 |
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324 |
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326 |
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完全背離 |
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330 |
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所以在這樣的一個情況之下 |
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330 |
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333 |
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教育部還是要去承擔 |
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334 |
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337 |
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請問一下次長 |
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340 |
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未來原住民族學校 |
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344 |
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除了剛才講以原住民族知識體系為主 |
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349 |
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一般的課程要不要上 |
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349 |
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351 |
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一般的課程 |
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351 |
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352 |
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當然要上 |
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352 |
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354 |
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當然一般教育要上啊 |
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354 |
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357 |
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一般教育照樣要上 |
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357 |
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359 |
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所以呢 |
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362 |
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當然還是要以教育部啊 |
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363 |
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365 |
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怎麼樣嚴明會來去 |
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365 |
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369 |
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加強的協助 |
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369 |
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371 |
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協助 |
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371 |
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374 |
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才要往前走的一個機會 |
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所以在這樣的前提之下 |
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377 |
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379 |
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這個部分啊 |
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379 |
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381 |
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我舉一個例子 |
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383 |
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當然一例子很多 |
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385 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
87年6月17號 |
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388 |
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原住民族教育法公佈施行 |
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388 |
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391 |
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這是中華民國第一個 |
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391 |
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393 |
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專為原住民族的 |
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395 |
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專屬的法律 |
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395 |
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397 |
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第一個 |
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397 |
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399 |
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而這針對是教育 |
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399 |
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402 |
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87年6月17號公佈施行 |
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402 |
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404 |
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第17條也特別規定 |
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411 |
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政府因鼓勵大學設相關院系或民族大學校宴 |
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411 |
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414 |
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87年6月17號 |
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414 |
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417 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
本席那時候後來當教育文化處處長 |
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417 |
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420 |
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我88年1月31號 |
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420 |
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423 |
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到嚴明會的教育文化處的處長 |
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423 |
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426 |
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我就安排了當時的畫家制主委 |
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426 |
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430 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
跟當時的教育部部長楊朝祥 |
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430 |
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435 |
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在88年的7月會面會商 |
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435 |
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440 |
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然後就安排了在88年8月13號 |
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440 |
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444 |
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楊朝祥部長 |
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444 |
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448 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
會同畫家制主委去東華大學 |
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448 |
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450 |
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聽起簡報 |
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450 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
為什麼那麼快就可以聽簡報 |
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453 |
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457 |
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因為我都拜託高德毅教授 |
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457 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
459 |
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在那邊已經準備好了 |
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459 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
相關的原住民族協議院的相關的簡報 |
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463 |
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467 |
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所以很快的當天就說要成立 |
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467 |
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471 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
所以89年的2月21號 |
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471 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
教育部就通過了要成立 |
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475 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
478 |
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89年11月25號 |
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478 |
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479 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
所備處成立 |
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479 |
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481 |
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90年8月1號 |
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481 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
正式成立原住民族協議院 |
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485 |
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487 |
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是這樣的一個過程 |
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487 |
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490 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
要兩個部會要共同的去推動 |
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490 |
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493 |
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嚴明會要主動 |
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493 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
要主動去拜託教育部 |
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496 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
500 |
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拜託啊你還是當主管機關 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
502 |
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對不對 |
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502 |
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505 |
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請問一下副主委你有沒有去拜託過 |
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505 |
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508 |
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我當初去拜託教育部 |
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508 |
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513 |
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我去找他們的司長才會有部長跟部長的會面 |
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513 |
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514 |
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對不對 |
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514 |
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518 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
當然這個不是你主管的 |
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518 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
教育文化組是不是你主管的 |
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520 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
不是嘛 |
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521 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
不是你督導的 |
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522 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
上個禮拜是 |
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524 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
現在開始了 |
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525 |
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527 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
之前不是 |
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527 |
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531 |
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所以這個副主委很重要 |
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531 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
要不要 |
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534 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
不斷的我常常去各部會 |
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537 |
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538 |
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我以前當副主委的時候 |
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538 |
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540 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
常常拜託各部會 |
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540 |
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542 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我們會跟教育部再一起協調 |
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542 |
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545 |
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有關於民族學校的設置 |
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545 |
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548 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
現在跟教育部也有一些配合 |
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548 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
對不對何況我上次講過了 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
已經這麼多的原住民族重點學校 |
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553 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
原住民族實驗教育學校 |
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555 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
原住民族實驗教育重點學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
這麼多所 |
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560 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
對不對 |
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561 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
這麼多所從國小到高中職都有 |
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566 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
這個經驗這個就是示範的 |
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569 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
你不要再說什麼示範 |
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571 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
最後 |
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573 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我要誠摯的拜託我們的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
下次你要拜託下一個召委 |
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581 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
因為慣例就是 |
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583 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
還是要民進黨的召委來安排 |
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586 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
我們就審 |
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588 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我們就讓他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
為什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
我們可以訂最後一條 |
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593 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
幾年後施行 |
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595 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
法律先通過 |
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597 |
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600 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
最後一條就訂 |
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600 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
施行日期由行政院訂制 |
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603 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
授權給行政院來訂 |
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606 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
這樣他們才有一個方向 |
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609 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
到底立法院要完成 |
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610 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
要制定通過怎麼樣的法律 |
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612 |
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615 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
原住民族學校法的內容是什麼 |
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615 |
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618 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我們可以多幾年給他們 |
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618 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
說不定他們提前 |
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620 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
621 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
對不對 |
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621 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
不更早 |
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622 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
所以我誠摯的拜託 |
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624 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
這個吳立華召委 |
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627 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
也能夠拜託下一任的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
能夠在下個月起 |
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634 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
能夠完成三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
原住民族學校法 |
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637 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
因為從108年到現在 |
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641 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
真的很多年了 |
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643 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
好非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
菁英財委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
請官員回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
653 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
接下來我們有請葉元之 |