| IVOD_ID |
17102 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17102 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-05 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-05T09:21:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-05T09:50:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:29:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a609bf4b6916bfa39eaa7de5db8cd27ca6ccb4456b5c46cbb78c760199a0221c4f195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-05T09:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第2次全院委員會（事由：審查「財政收支劃分法」修正部分條文覆議案。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
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好 請秘書長報告出席人數報告全院委員會出席委員97人已足法定人數我們現在開會本次全院委員會之議程一上午願會通過附議案審查時程之決定辦理我們現在進行報告事項請秘書長宣讀第四會期第一次全院委員會議事錄宣讀立法院第十一屆第四會期第一次 |
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全院委員會議事錄時間中華民國114.9月19日下午30至50分地點本院議場書記委員陳委員招職等109人請假委員毛委員文金等4人類席人員審計部審計長被提名人陳瑞民主席院長韓國瑜討論事項第一案決議提報院會以記名投票表決宣讀完畢報告全院委員會 |
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針對第四會期第一次全院委員會的議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在做一下決定第四會期第一次會議全院委員會議事錄確定現在我們進行討論事項請議事人員一併宣讀 |
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討論事項一行政委衡委本院三讀通過修正財政收支劃分法部分條文經研議全案確處之案難行依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定依請本院負議案二總統府秘書長衡委本院通過修正財政收支劃分法部分條文自請總統公佈案經行政院研議以全案確處之案難行依依憲法增修條文第三條第二項第二款規定陳鳳總統何可依請本院負議案宣讀完畢 |
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報告全院委員會依照上午院會決定我們以上兩案全院委員會審查時不邀請行政院院長列席說明由各黨團推派一位委員發言每位委員發言時間五分鐘現在我們請各黨團推派代表發言首先請鍾嘉斌委員發言賴世保委員請準備 |
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主席在場的委員先進今天代表民進黨黨團針對財化副議案表示意見我知道接下來兩位在野黨的代表一定會說卓院長這一屆的行政院把副議當兒戲連同今天這一次高達了八次 |
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但是當在野黨指責行政院把富裕當兒戲的時候我這裡要誠懇的指出在野黨把立法院當作馬戲團把自己當猴子在耍才會讓立法院出現這麼多行政院自愛難行難以執行的法律原因很單純本屆在野黨的委員非常不認真 |
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對於法律的框架毫不在意就拿這一本立法委員手冊來說好了可能以為是立法院的電話通訊錄看看美容、美髮部是電話幾號或者以為是立法委員的福利手冊看看助理費編了多少錢不是這一本立法委員手冊將立法委員行使職權最重要的幾個法律放在裡面 |
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除了中華民國憲法正確條文之外一共有16部法律寫在這裡面分別是立法委員必須宣誓效忠國家宣誓條例立法院組織法立法院各委員會組織法還有我們立法院職權行使法以及非常重要的法規的標準中央法規標準法 |
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接下來還有五部法律也很重要就是4加1的財政法案第一預算法決算法公共債務法財政紀律法以及今天最重要的財政收支劃分法然後還有兩個攸關人民的權利的請願法攸關憲法保障人權的憲法訴訟法以及四個立法委員必須遵守的陽光法案立法委員行為法 |
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利益衝突迴避法政治先進法以及遊說法這16部法律在野黨的委員毫不在意以至於在過去兩年不到的時間竟然這裡面有三個重要的法律立法委員職權刑事法財政收支劃分法以及憲法訴訟法 |
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竟然草率修改荒腔走板行政院無法接受一共提出了七個復議案其中包括這三個法律甚至立法院執行刑事法在去年還被憲法法庭宣告為多數違憲以至於我們立法院秘書出發印這一本丟臉 |
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端端兩年不到 把立法院當成馬戲團 自己搞兒戲重要的16部法律 有三項被行政提出的復議案結果呢 行政院長不得不來這邊提出七個復議案 我們四次邀請根據例子法33條第二項 邀請行政院來報告就拿今天我們在11月14號三讀通過的裁判法三度的二修 |
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裁判法再度被行政提供復印但是別忘了在去年的12月20號同樣的在一檔惡修的裁判法行政院長也在今年的3月12號來進行提出復印後的報告裡面第三頁清清楚楚明明白白講到的該次的裁判法修正條文第16條之一第三項第一款有鎖定計算公式分母的出入與續文內容矛盾 |
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明明白白告訴立法院的在野黨你們在去年12月20號三讀的裁判法有明顯的問題所以不得不提出呼籲結果現在11月14號在野黨通過的裁判法一樣的錯誤 |
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沒有任何的改正丟臉啊難怪你們不需要請卓院長來報告因為他上次的報告內容完全可以用學生考卷寫錯了再考一次同樣的錯誤老師連定證都不用定證啊把上次定證的考卷叫你回家看一看就好了 |
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所以我們在這裡要強調的在野黨、國民黨、民眾黨挾著國會的多數惡搞國家的重大罰點已經成為歷史的笑話從第一屆到第十一屆立法院本屆這過去兩年所犯的錯誤罄竹難書希望我們掌握國會多數的國眾兩黨早日悔改回頭是岸 |
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好 謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的發言我們接下來請賴世保委員發言張祺凱委員請準備謝謝院長 請各位先進 |
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那麼我們都知道這個卓榮泰院長只要看到他不喜歡的法案他就提復議 |
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每提復翼必敗一定被否決今天已經第八次的提復翼案所以卓榮泰等於改寫等於創造中華民國憲政史上提復翼最多的院長所以講他是一個復翼院長應該加兩個字復翼院長失敗復翼失敗院長這個就是卓榮泰復翼失敗院長 |
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每一次提副意那就失敗每一次提副意就失敗為什麼這個樣子我們都知道11月14號通過的裁劃法立法院通過的裁劃法這裡面來講的話如果行政院有意見他為什麼不提出來一起討論呢結果就在我們提出議事的時候隔一個禮拜左右行政院就提出他的版本了我們就來問 |
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那你為什麼不加入114的法案裡面的討論我們就問為什麼這裡面來講的話很清楚的看得到行政院有版本而且行政院的版本 |
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其實我們老實講如果好的提出來我們一起討論別忘了立法院一年多來不斷的要求行政院提版本行政院提版本但是行政院就是置之不理 |
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到最後一一一四11月14號通過立法院版本的時候他才要提版本美戶齊阿拉這是要凸顯一個行政群的傲慢無視立法群的存在我們都知道富裕是多麼嚴肅的一個事情 |
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卓榮泰院長把復育當噁心把復育當吃飯一樣 三餐到了時間到了我就提復育 時間到了就提復育 時間到了就提復育這什麼意思 各位看立法院沒有啦瞧不起立法院啦 瞧不起立法權啦各位要知道行政院被立法院提復育案就是打了立法院的耳光 |
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當然我們立法院就反擊回去立法院就把他甩一個耳光回來很清楚的看得到他每次打耳光就被打一個耳光他打立法院的耳光他又被打一個耳光這個結果都如此今天的結果也是可以預見的今天的結果就是復一案絕對不會通過按照過去的憲法還沒有這些條例的時候 |
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行政院長早就要下台了所以卓榮他可以下台七次了他第八次還可以繼續做為什麼各位這就凸顯一個行政權的傲慢是立法權如烏只要他認為這個案子我不喜歡 |
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我就要提富裕 我不喜歡就不要過舉例來講明年度的總預算到現在為止為什麼還不能夠護衛因為我們三讀通過的我們要給軍人加薪的300億左右行政院違法不編列按照來講立法院三讀通過的法案你就要編列啊為什麼你可以不編列然後硬要叫我們審 |
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所以可以看去年度去年的時候因為進化補償條例27不變整個就停擺整個立法院卡住了國家運轉就卡住了今年又是重蹈覆轍繼續一樣 |
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只是凸顯行政院的傲慢所以我們今天是被逼著沒有辦法我們要捍衛中華民國憲政的一個正常運作那就是我們要否決行政院的復議案他的復議案毫無道理各位如果你有好的版本你提出來 |
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一起討論在11月14號之前你為什麼不提出來後面你才提出來後面提出來我們怎麼討論呢11月14號通過了法案都還沒有實施結果現在各位這部法案 |
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這個財政收支方法這個方案現在就原地打轉使得我們中華民國的憲政體制運作又碰到很大的瓶頸所以為了捍衛中華民國的憲政體制的正常運作一起來投反對票把它否決掉吧 謝謝 |
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謝謝賴思寶委員的發言接下來我們最後一位黨團代表發言第三號張其凱委員請發言 |
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今天是撥亂款證捍衛各個縣市地方補助款的重要保衛戰 |
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因為像土匪一樣違法亂紀無法無天的行政院竟然亂砍各縣市政府砍人民的錢兩千六百四十六億包括阿凱的故鄉嘉義市被砍了六十九億今天我們要把這個錢救回來剛剛民進黨的宗嘉賓 |
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在這邊提了很多的指責宗嘉賓可能沒有看包括你屏東縣的錢都被砍了砍的是什麼錢連蘇進清一的錢全部砍了24億連小孩子學童的營養午餐都被砍了教育的經費包括基本的教育人員的辦事費用 |
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教師的冷氣的錢 退伍支出 現職待役的調整全部都被砍等一下 請大家注意民進黨已經提名了好幾位縣市長的候選人了請他們看等一下的紀錄 他們的投票他們是站在行政院總裁那邊主張 |
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砍地方的補助款砍我們血統的營養午餐砍地方清理自所的錢嗎請大家注意今天他們是幫我們縣市政府幫我們人民征服力還是站在砍地方補助的那一邊我們的中央政府 |
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是歷年來有史以來最有錢的政府高達三兆的總預算結果在金山上面當很窮當乞丐還是要突然去砍地方的補助款這次的補助補助裡面很離譜的是上個月立法院為什麼要修財化法 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1504.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1524.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
因為我們通過了上一次的修正之後我們把4100億的統籌款分配下放給地方的讓各個縣市政府可以照顧我們的民眾可以落實地方自治結果行政做了什麼事情他們竟然違法去砍了地方的這個補助款砍了什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1527.671 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1553.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
台中市盧秀燕說她的南線的這個捷運已經蓋好了明年依照補助原來的聯繫性的計畫60億她竟然把它砍到只剩下1.6億還有所有補助款整體加起來台中市明年少了260億嘉義市我們辛辛苦苦這一年都來極力的力爭光是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1555.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1566.091 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
總諮詢一直到委員會到朝野協商力爭十次以上我們爭取到什麼幫嘉義市增加了63億的統籌款結果總統在行政區委員會去砍了69億的補助款增加63億他去砍69億基隆市也碰到一樣的狀況基隆市統籌款增加了73結果被砍了80幾億 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1580.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1605.068 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
而且是違法的砍 這些補助款都是多年來法定的預算 連續的預算這不是土匪政府嗎更嚴重的 中央除了搶地方的錢違法之外他們做什麼事情 最近最有名的終於有了三接本來招標94億 終於有了高層在錄音帶裡面怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1607.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1610.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
我們終於有承認你做生意賣還指責廠商說報價太低了後來多少錢結標253億耶人民納稅錢多付了將近160億耶昨天黨團協商我主張要砍掉一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1625.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1650.113 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
用全世界最高的價格去買再生能源買了以後又賣不出去虧損也賣一度就賠一度的錢人民納稅錢浪費了幾百億我立足要砍掉350億去年燒煤的錢造成污染我也砍了250億國防依算浪費了後來連國防部長自己都覺得不好意思吐出來一個周時250萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1652.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1681.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
一瓶水一百二,快吐了多少錢出來五十億啊一來一去,超市也有五億多啊把浪費的錢省下來,把避難錢省下來就可以給地方政府,請不要再霸凌地方政府今天不議案好,謝謝張慈凱委員的發言報告全院委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1682.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1710.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
各黨團推派的委員均已經發言完畢行政院所提之復議案已經審查完畢我們現在做以下決議提報院會以記名投票表決向全委會報告依上午院會決定全院委會審查完畢同日改開院會進行復議案記名投票表決我們定在本日上午十點 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1711.397 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1730.132 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我們定於本日上午10點改開院會請各位委員有屆時出席院會進行復議案之記名票表決本次全院委員會進行到此為止現在全院委員會散會 |