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沈伯洋 @ 第11屆第5會期司法及法制、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:02,000 | 請 |
| 00:00:04,000 | 00:00:06,000 | 都不用拿東西來就好 |
| 00:00:06,000 | 00:00:08,000 | 學父5G就可以開始上場了 |
| 00:00:08,000 | 00:00:10,000 | 來 |
| 00:00:10,000 | 00:00:12,000 | 謝謝主席 |
| 00:00:12,000 | 00:00:14,000 | 有請法務部跟警政署 |
| 00:00:14,000 | 00:00:16,000 | 請法務部張司長還有 |
| 00:00:16,000 | 00:00:18,000 | 還有誰 |
| 00:00:18,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 法務部還有警政署 |
| 00:00:20,000 | 00:00:22,000 | 還有警政署 |
| 00:00:22,000 | 00:00:24,000 | 警政署請這個正副大隊長好了 |
| 00:00:24,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 謝謝 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:28,000 | 委員好 |
| 00:00:28,000 | 00:00:30,000 | 這個 |
| 00:00:30,000 | 00:00:32,000 | 我想我先問法務部 |
| 00:00:32,000 | 00:00:34,000 | 就是說我今天想先問 |
| 00:00:34,000 | 00:00:36,000 | 獨駕就是說 |
| 00:00:36,000 | 00:00:38,000 | 就是獨駕這件事情 |
| 00:00:38,000 | 00:00:40,000 | 現在越來越嚴重 |
| 00:00:40,000 | 00:00:42,000 | 所以他一定要遏止我想說這大概 |
| 00:00:42,000 | 00:00:44,000 | 是沒有什麼疑問 |
| 00:00:44,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 在我們這一個要遏止犯罪的 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:48,000 | 這個前提有幾個 |
| 00:00:48,000 | 00:00:50,000 | 一個就是你的刑度一定要有一些威嚇力 |
| 00:00:50,000 | 00:00:52,000 | 我想這是修法最主要的 |
| 00:00:52,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 重點然後再來就是 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 這一個在尤其是不管是 |
| 00:00:56,000 | 00:00:58,000 | 你要抓得到他這件事情 |
| 00:00:58,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 其實要快而且要確實 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:02,000 | 因為如果說你刑度很重 |
| 00:01:02,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 結果抓不到也嚇不到他 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:06,000 | 所以這個等一下就是說 |
| 00:01:06,000 | 00:01:08,000 | 可能也要請這個警政署講一下就是說 |
| 00:01:08,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 現在現實面因為 |
| 00:01:10,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 畢竟測這一個跟酒駕比起來 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 有可能有一些現實上的困難 |
| 00:01:14,000 | 00:01:16,000 | 這個要怎麼精進這是另外一回事 |
| 00:01:16,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 但我先針對刑度 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:20,000 | 的幾個問題就是說 |
| 00:01:20,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 這一個沒有一定的答案但是我現在 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 發現就是這一個 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 這個在power play上面 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 可以看到就是現在 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:30,000 | 到底是想像進和 |
| 00:01:30,000 | 00:01:32,000 | 還是說你直接把它論為一罪 |
| 00:01:32,000 | 00:01:34,000 | 我看到法院比較多 |
| 00:01:34,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 都是指法院比較多 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:38,000 | 就是把它當做 |
| 00:01:38,000 | 00:01:40,000 | 實質上一罪但是呢 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 我發現在檢方這邊我用下一張 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:44,000 | 可能比較會比較清楚 |
| 00:01:44,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 就是左邊這邊看起來是 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 比較前期的見解都 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 把它當作實質上一罪 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:52,000 | 你看我這邊有抓新竹 |
| 00:01:52,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 雲林跟桃園地檢都是 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:56,000 | 用想像進和犯說要從一眾處斷 |
| 00:01:56,000 | 00:01:58,000 | 就是檢方 |
| 00:01:58,000 | 00:02:00,000 | 在這一邊看起來好像 |
| 00:02:00,000 | 00:02:02,000 | 不是很一致 |
| 00:02:02,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 那不是很一致我會覺得 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:06,000 | 就是說因為這個會影響到 |
| 00:02:06,000 | 00:02:08,000 | 我們現在對於酒駕、毒駕 |
| 00:02:08,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 的一個認定方式那我講 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 白話文一點因為我全國民眾也在看 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 我們也不要用太多法律的術語 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:16,000 | 就是說因為 |
| 00:02:16,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 喝酒本身是 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 有單純喝酒嘛對不對 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 很多人都會喝酒 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:24,000 | 那開車本身也是 |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:26,000 | 合法的但喝酒駕開車不行 |
| 00:02:26,000 | 00:02:28,000 | 喝酒駕開車不行 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:30,000 | 所以一般我們對於 |
| 00:02:30,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 酒駕這件事情的評價 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:34,000 | 就是1853它就是 |
| 00:02:34,000 | 00:02:36,000 | 喝酒加上開車酒測只要超過 |
| 00:02:36,000 | 00:02:38,000 | 一定的這個 |
| 00:02:38,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 但是毒駕有一個非常不一樣的地方是 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:42,000 | 吸毒本身就已經是犯罪了 |
| 00:02:42,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 所以呢吸毒加 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 開車也是犯罪我們現在是把它 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 跟酒駕等於是放在同一個 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 評價基準點 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:52,000 | 上面然後我們只是先因為我們現在覺得 |
| 00:02:52,000 | 00:02:54,000 | 這個很嚴重我們要喝足所以我們把 |
| 00:02:54,000 | 00:02:56,000 | 行度提高但是因為 |
| 00:02:56,000 | 00:02:58,000 | 吸毒本身它就是一個 |
| 00:02:58,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 犯罪行為那所以我們現在 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 把吸毒加上酒駕把它 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:04,000 | 當作是一個獨立犯罪 |
| 00:03:04,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 行為的時候我們到底是 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:08,000 | 認為它是單純的公共 |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:10,000 | 安全的侵害還是 |
| 00:03:10,000 | 00:03:12,000 | 它有公共安全以外的侵害 |
| 00:03:12,000 | 00:03:14,000 | 那這個會在認定上面 |
| 00:03:14,000 | 00:03:16,000 | 會有差別啦 |
| 00:03:16,000 | 00:03:18,000 | 那我不是很清楚檢方現在 |
| 00:03:18,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 到底去認定說它到底是同一法意 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:22,000 | 就是跟酒駕比較 |
| 00:03:22,000 | 00:03:24,000 | 是同一法意還是它是 |
| 00:03:24,000 | 00:03:26,000 | 有不同的法意存在所以特別說 |
| 00:03:26,000 | 00:03:28,000 | 要想像進合還是怎樣所以我想說 |
| 00:03:28,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 先確認一下法務部對 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 這件事情的立場 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:36,000 | 那那個是用 |
| 00:03:36,000 | 00:03:38,000 | 毒品的行為跟是用毒品後 |
| 00:03:38,000 | 00:03:40,000 | 的這個毒駕行為 |
| 00:03:40,000 | 00:03:42,000 | 如果是毒駕的話當然就是用 |
| 00:03:42,000 | 00:03:44,000 | 就是1853 |
| 00:03:44,000 | 00:03:46,000 | 針對它的前面的 |
| 00:03:46,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 施用毒品行為跟1853 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:50,000 | 這兩個行為 |
| 00:03:50,000 | 00:03:52,000 | 當然要看它的犯罪的時間點 |
| 00:03:52,000 | 00:03:54,000 | 那如果說它犯罪時間點 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 有個差距的話那有可能是 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:58,000 | 但是這邊它的想像進合 |
| 00:03:58,000 | 00:04:00,000 | 指的是酒跟毒同時 |
| 00:04:00,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 都有的時候就是酒駕跟 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:04,000 | 毒駕混合的時候那為什麼這時候 |
| 00:04:04,000 | 00:04:06,000 | 有一些他們會用想像進合就是 |
| 00:04:06,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 它的理由何在 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 這個毒酒 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:12,000 | 酒併用的時候 |
| 00:04:12,000 | 00:04:14,000 | 這個食物上可能用 |
| 00:04:14,000 | 00:04:16,000 | 想像進合的時候那有可能是因為 |
| 00:04:16,000 | 00:04:18,000 | 它的犯罪時間點非常 |
| 00:04:18,000 | 00:04:20,000 | 接近這個我不確定啦因為 |
| 00:04:20,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 那個委員局的這些案例可能還要去看 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:24,000 | 它針對那個 |
| 00:04:24,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 飲酒的時候跟施用毒品的時候它的時間 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 點是不是非常的相近因為如果非常 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 相近的話那有可能在判斷 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:32,000 | 上會認為說它其實是 |
| 00:04:32,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 屬於想像進合的關係 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:36,000 | 那這個可能就回去確認一下 |
| 00:04:36,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 因為我們就發現這個檢方這邊對這件事情 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:40,000 | 是有點不太一致 |
| 00:04:40,000 | 00:04:42,000 | 那法院的見解看起來都是用 |
| 00:04:42,000 | 00:04:44,000 | 就是說實質上一罪 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 然後他們說從一中 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 這個當然也有點奇怪就是說其實你如果實質上一罪 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 你也不用從一中但是反正這是 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 另外一件事情但是我覺得這個在 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 食物進展上面可能要穩定因為這個 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 可能會影響到因為我們對於這個 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 的法醫認定方式會進入 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 足條的時候會影響到我們 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 對於那些條文的行動的認定 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 什麼等等之類的我覺得這可能要注意 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:06,000 | 一下那另外還有一個小地方 |
| 00:05:06,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 就是因為我們現在要把酒駕 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 跟毒駕因為都定在同一個 |
| 00:05:10,000 | 00:05:12,000 | 法條那因為我說酒駕跟毒駕 |
| 00:05:12,000 | 00:05:14,000 | 它有一個本質上很大的不同是因為 |
| 00:05:14,000 | 00:05:16,000 | 毒品本身是一個獨立的犯罪行為 |
| 00:05:16,000 | 00:05:18,000 | 那所以我現在在 |
| 00:05:18,000 | 00:05:20,000 | 看國外的這個立法例 |
| 00:05:20,000 | 00:05:22,000 | 比如我先 |
| 00:05:22,000 | 00:05:24,000 | 跳過這一個比如說這是法國 |
| 00:05:24,000 | 00:05:26,000 | 那法國的做法是這樣 |
| 00:05:26,000 | 00:05:28,000 | 它的酒駕跟它的 |
| 00:05:28,000 | 00:05:30,000 | 毒駕它是它它獨立出來 |
| 00:05:30,000 | 00:05:32,000 | 然後呢比如說 |
| 00:05:32,000 | 00:05:34,000 | 它今天在毒駕的這個 |
| 00:05:34,000 | 00:05:36,000 | 過程當中如果後來 |
| 00:05:36,000 | 00:05:38,000 | 在事實認定上面它又有酒 |
| 00:05:38,000 | 00:05:40,000 | 它把毒駕 |
| 00:05:40,000 | 00:05:42,000 | 因為毒駕它是一個獨立的條文 |
| 00:05:42,000 | 00:05:44,000 | 它就把酒當作加重室友 |
| 00:05:44,000 | 00:05:46,000 | 是所以有點跟我們的 |
| 00:05:46,000 | 00:05:48,000 | 有點不太又有點不太一樣 |
| 00:05:48,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 我們是在行度上面做調整它是把 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 酒直接當作是一個加重室友 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 其實我覺得用這樣的一個認定 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 方式有可能會比較清除乾淨 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:58,000 | 一點而且這個在實務 |
| 00:05:58,000 | 00:06:00,000 | 上如果要做的話可能也會比較輕鬆 |
| 00:06:00,000 | 00:06:02,000 | 我覺得法務部可以思考看看因為 |
| 00:06:02,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 我在看法務部的那個回應的意見的時候 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 其實我覺得搞不好 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:08,000 | 這樣子會比較符合法務部的想法 |
| 00:06:08,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 所以這個可以我覺得可以思考一下 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 沒有說一定要採用但是就是 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:14,000 | 這是一種認定方式 |
| 00:06:14,000 | 00:06:16,000 | 那接下來我現在還有 |
| 00:06:16,000 | 00:06:18,000 | 有點時間太好了我想問一下這個 |
| 00:06:18,000 | 00:06:20,000 | 現在的這個警察的這個 |
| 00:06:20,000 | 00:06:22,000 | 食物就是說因為 |
| 00:06:22,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 第一個這個毒的這個檢測 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 它當然也會有一些偽陽性啊什麼 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 等等的問題然後再加上 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:30,000 | 它會有它有時候有些它 |
| 00:06:30,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 會的快所以呢就是現在在 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 食物上面就是要確保 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:36,000 | 能夠抓得到這件事情 |
| 00:06:36,000 | 00:06:38,000 | 要怎麼能夠提高那不然行度 |
| 00:06:38,000 | 00:06:40,000 | 增加跟這個沒有辦法搭配在 |
| 00:06:40,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 一起感謝委員關心 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 這個議題那委員想的很正確 |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:46,000 | 你像星星的毒品都 |
| 00:06:46,000 | 00:06:48,000 | 一脫咪指因為半衰期 |
| 00:06:48,000 | 00:06:50,000 | 非常快它大概75分鐘 |
| 00:06:50,000 | 00:06:52,000 | 就進入半衰期那再來 |
| 00:06:52,000 | 00:06:54,000 | 加倍的時間就除以二除以二 |
| 00:06:54,000 | 00:06:56,000 | 所以甚至說只要 |
| 00:06:56,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 經過不到一天 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:07:00,000 | 尿裡面都檢驗不出來所以說 |
| 00:07:00,000 | 00:07:02,000 | 針對一脫咪指 |
| 00:07:02,000 | 00:07:04,000 | 這一類星星毒品我們在 |
| 00:07:04,000 | 00:07:06,000 | 我們的脫一塊塞 |
| 00:07:06,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 在我們的2.0版的部分 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:10,000 | 我們從9月份開始會採購 |
| 00:07:10,000 | 00:07:12,000 | 2.0版我們把相關的 |
| 00:07:12,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 這個脫一塊塞的玉子 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:16,000 | 都調降那同時也是 |
| 00:07:16,000 | 00:07:18,000 | 配合衛福部將相關的 |
| 00:07:18,000 | 00:07:20,000 | 這個尿檢玉子也同步 |
| 00:07:20,000 | 00:07:22,000 | 調降那希望就是說 |
| 00:07:22,000 | 00:07:24,000 | 在第一線執法 |
| 00:07:24,000 | 00:07:26,000 | 的現場就可以立即判斷說 |
| 00:07:26,000 | 00:07:28,000 | 它是否是毒駕 |
| 00:07:28,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 那在接續後面的尿液檢驗 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:32,000 | 讓這些意圖毒駕者 |
| 00:07:32,000 | 00:07:34,000 | 這個不會逃離我們 |
| 00:07:34,000 | 00:07:36,000 | 就後面有一個綜合判斷是不是 |
| 00:07:36,000 | 00:07:38,000 | 因為我覺得就是說 |
| 00:07:38,000 | 00:07:40,000 | 畢竟現在毒駕 |
| 00:07:40,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 現在變多了嘛那它的熱點 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:44,000 | 在哪裡可能這是第一個重要的不然的話 |
| 00:07:44,000 | 00:07:46,000 | 當然你要確實的都能夠 |
| 00:07:46,000 | 00:07:48,000 | 抓得到這一些其實需要 |
| 00:07:48,000 | 00:07:50,000 | 很大量的警力之前你說 |
| 00:07:50,000 | 00:07:52,000 | 酒駕要怎麼遏止如果每一個入口都在 |
| 00:07:52,000 | 00:07:54,000 | 領先我想說他們都在 |
| 00:07:54,000 | 00:07:56,000 | 酒測領先說真的那其實 |
| 00:07:56,000 | 00:07:58,000 | 可以很有效那這警力是有限的 |
| 00:07:58,000 | 00:08:00,000 | 所以就是第一個熱點在哪裡 |
| 00:08:00,000 | 00:08:02,000 | 這個呢第一個可以考量嗎第二個就是 |
| 00:08:02,000 | 00:08:04,000 | 就是交通事故比較 |
| 00:08:04,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 好發的一些地方或者說比如 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:08,000 | 說像市場或者學校 |
| 00:08:08,000 | 00:08:10,000 | 這種有一些使用者 |
| 00:08:10,000 | 00:08:12,000 | 是比較在容易受傷害的族群 |
| 00:08:12,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 比如說年長者或小孩 |
| 00:08:14,000 | 00:08:16,000 | 在那邊做比較多的加強 |
| 00:08:16,000 | 00:08:18,000 | 就是警力配置上 |
| 00:08:18,000 | 00:08:20,000 | 因為我覺得這個時候我們不能讓第一線的警力 |
| 00:08:20,000 | 00:08:22,000 | 癱瘓掉我覺得這是重要的那這搭配 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:24,000 | 你剛剛講的我覺得或許能夠比較做到這件事 |
| 00:08:24,000 | 00:08:26,000 | 那另外我再回到 |
| 00:08:26,000 | 00:08:28,000 | 法務部但是這可能來不及問就是加重 |
| 00:08:28,000 | 00:08:30,000 | 結果犯這一邊因為我們 |
| 00:08:30,000 | 00:08:32,000 | 現在要把初犯累犯把它分開 |
| 00:08:32,000 | 00:08:34,000 | 那我覺得這是一個 |
| 00:08:34,000 | 00:08:36,000 | 好的方向是因為其實酒駕 |
| 00:08:36,000 | 00:08:38,000 | 尤其之前酒駕很多都是累犯 |
| 00:08:38,000 | 00:08:40,000 | 的賀主力比較低所以現在要把 |
| 00:08:40,000 | 00:08:42,000 | 這個累犯要把它提高但加重結果犯 |
| 00:08:42,000 | 00:08:44,000 | 裡面我可以看到就是 |
| 00:08:44,000 | 00:08:46,000 | 死亡的部分還是有這一個 |
| 00:08:46,000 | 00:08:48,000 | 初犯跟累犯的那個差距 |
| 00:08:48,000 | 00:08:50,000 | 但是在致重傷的時候它是一樣的 |
| 00:08:50,000 | 00:08:52,000 | 就是致重傷都是3到10 |
| 00:08:52,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 所以當然就是說 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:56,000 | 我的想法是 |
| 00:08:56,000 | 00:08:58,000 | 當然在這邊可能你們在設計 |
| 00:08:58,000 | 00:09:00,000 | 那個行因為這邊太複雜了 |
| 00:09:00,000 | 00:09:02,000 | 所以導致那個行度要設計那個 |
| 00:09:02,000 | 00:09:04,000 | 級距的時候已經變得你這邊 |
| 00:09:04,000 | 00:09:06,000 | 如果再往上會卡到上一個 |
| 00:09:06,000 | 00:09:08,000 | 這個我知道但或許可能 |
| 00:09:08,000 | 00:09:10,000 | 罰金的部分或什麼之類就 |
| 00:09:10,000 | 00:09:12,000 | 這總是要有一個做法啦因為要符合 |
| 00:09:12,000 | 00:09:14,000 | 比例原則所以這個可能等一下 |
| 00:09:14,000 | 00:09:16,000 | 主條的時候思考一下 |
| 00:09:16,000 | 00:09:18,000 | 最後就是剛剛講到 |
| 00:09:18,000 | 00:09:20,000 | 這個我們24條這個修正主題 |
| 00:09:20,000 | 00:09:22,000 | 不好意思我就20秒就是 |
| 00:09:22,000 | 00:09:24,000 | 在逐生損害這件事情 |
| 00:09:24,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 當然我們在刑法上很多時候都是希望說 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 我們有一些具體認定的標準 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:30,000 | 有一個具體危險犯的認定 |
| 00:09:30,000 | 00:09:32,000 | 但是降低這件事情 |
| 00:09:32,000 | 00:09:34,000 | 就是或者說拍攝我們現在很多 |
| 00:09:34,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 拍攝影片就要降低這其實是一個 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:38,000 | 很明確的行為啦這個明確的 |
| 00:09:38,000 | 00:09:40,000 | 行為一旦出現了之後你說 |
| 00:09:40,000 | 00:09:42,000 | 要再認定逐生損害 |
| 00:09:42,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 我覺得你這個逐生損害你的認定方式 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:46,000 | 到底是什麼你如果把它當作危險犯的話你要 |
| 00:09:46,000 | 00:09:48,000 | 直接去認定我還是覺得你們原本 |
| 00:09:48,000 | 00:09:50,000 | 就是反而是降低這個 |
| 00:09:50,000 | 00:09:52,000 | 定義要清楚就是說你今天 |
| 00:09:52,000 | 00:09:54,000 | 比如說他們拍攝影片就什麼叫做 |
| 00:09:54,000 | 00:09:56,000 | 這個行為這個行為一旦 |
| 00:09:56,000 | 00:09:58,000 | 定義是清楚的有沒有 |
| 00:09:58,000 | 00:10:00,000 | 逐生損害就不是重點如果你的行為 |
| 00:10:00,000 | 00:10:02,000 | 定義不清楚那你就需要逐生損害 |
| 00:10:02,000 | 00:10:04,000 | 去扣那我認為我們 |
| 00:10:04,000 | 00:10:06,000 | 到時候把這一個行為的定義把它弄清楚 |
| 00:10:06,000 | 00:10:08,000 | 逐生損害是 |
| 00:10:08,000 | 00:10:10,000 | 可以按照願望我認為不用擺在上面 |
| 00:10:10,000 | 00:10:12,000 | 那這個我就先問到這邊因為時間 |
| 00:10:12,000 | 00:10:14,000 | 到了謝謝謝謝委員 |
| 00:10:14,000 | 00:10:16,000 | 謝謝主席 |