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00:00:00,000 00:00:17,240 主席我們有請勞動人權鬥士張豐一
00:00:17,240 00:00:19,240 請張貝提密人
00:00:19,240 00:00:26,240 張多士好
00:00:26,240 00:00:28,240 不敢當
00:00:28,240 00:00:32,239 Kenton在德文就是一個鬥士
00:00:32,239 00:00:36,239 所以我對您非常的敬重
00:00:36,239 00:00:38,239 在我的印象當中
00:00:38,239 00:00:44,239 您就是長期為台灣的勞動人權來奮鬥
00:00:44,239 00:00:47,239 我沒有看過你哭笑
00:00:47,239 00:00:50,239 希望我今天對您的詢問
00:00:50,239 00:00:53,239 不會讓你哭笑不得
00:00:54,240 00:00:58,240 首先我先講哭的部分
00:00:58,240 00:01:00,240 您的報告裡面提到
00:01:00,240 00:01:05,240 我們台灣在國際貿易跟勞動人權的改善
00:01:05,240 00:01:08,240 我們國際貿易的競爭力
00:01:08,240 00:01:10,240 當然有很多因素
00:01:10,240 00:01:14,240 我們主席副院長非常清楚
00:01:14,240 00:01:21,240 但是台糖土地提供給我們比較便宜的用地成本
00:01:21,240 00:01:25,240 是我們的競爭力的原因之一
00:01:25,240 00:01:31,240 那我們台糖土地可以分成兩大類
00:01:31,240 00:01:36,240 一大類就是我們的皮糖乾和或是海埔新生地
00:01:36,240 00:01:39,240 另外一大類
00:01:39,240 00:01:42,240 它怎麼來
00:01:42,240 00:01:46,240 日本人1895年來
00:01:46,240 00:01:51,240 看到它所繼承的清代棺材
00:01:51,240 00:01:54,240 竟然在雲林以南
00:01:54,240 00:01:58,240 有這麼多的棺有地
00:01:58,240 00:02:01,240 所以日本人那時候
00:02:01,240 00:02:05,240 就想辦法要來善用這些棺有地
00:02:05,240 00:02:08,240 所以成立第一家
00:02:08,240 00:02:13,240 台灣石頭株式開啟社
00:02:13,240 00:02:16,240 台灣治糖株式會社
00:02:16,240 00:02:21,240 它的土地就是從清代繼承下來
00:02:21,240 00:02:23,240 成立台糖
00:02:23,240 00:02:29,240 而台糖這些土地裡面會被賤賣的
00:02:29,240 00:02:31,240 就是好的土地
00:02:31,240 00:02:36,240 它的來源您知道它是怎麼來
00:02:36,240 00:02:40,240 如果無來人知道這些土地的來源
00:02:41,240 00:02:44,240 它今天這錢不敢吞下去
00:02:44,240 00:02:47,240 絕對要拖平回來
00:02:47,240 00:02:50,240 這是我們台灣先民
00:02:50,240 00:02:52,240 300多年來
00:02:52,240 00:02:55,240 3年一小範
00:02:55,240 00:02:58,240 5年一大範
00:02:58,240 00:03:00,240 自救救
00:03:00,240 00:03:02,240 加上募收
00:03:02,240 00:03:06,240 所遇到的清代的誇獎
00:03:06,240 00:03:09,240 所以無來人
00:03:09,240 00:03:14,240 你給我吃這個賤賣台糖土地的錢
00:03:14,240 00:03:17,240 你不會得好
00:03:17,240 00:03:19,240 我說到這個故事
00:03:19,240 00:03:21,240 我今天要說出來
00:03:21,240 00:03:24,240 我們用南科來看
00:03:24,240 00:03:29,240 我的外祖在南科就40年代以上
00:03:29,240 00:03:31,240 南科的土地
00:03:31,240 00:03:34,240 1995年設南科
00:03:34,240 00:03:37,240 讓南科有經常
00:03:37,240 00:03:43,240 裡面有礦石一、礦石二、土地
00:03:43,240 00:03:45,240 很多都到了
00:03:45,240 00:03:47,240 土地都帶著
00:03:47,240 00:03:50,240 白沙萬世將軍
00:03:50,240 00:03:53,240 太陽將軍
00:03:53,240 00:03:57,240 無來人你給我吃這個錢
00:03:57,240 00:04:01,240 我為了你好你還要快點退回來
00:04:01,240 00:04:04,240 不然你不會好
00:04:05,240 00:04:08,240 這個是讓我很難過的地方
00:04:08,240 00:04:11,240 南科設成工
00:04:11,240 00:04:17,240 南科比較高位階的技術人員
00:04:17,240 00:04:20,240 開車對高雄
00:04:20,240 00:04:23,240 對台南輔仙來我們新市吃頭肉
00:04:23,240 00:04:25,240 他不想住在我們新市附近
00:04:25,240 00:04:27,240 環境不好
00:04:27,240 00:04:29,240 台南附近各鄉鎮
00:04:29,240 00:04:33,240 到南科來上班的勞工
00:04:33,240 00:04:36,240 完全仰賴機車
00:04:36,240 00:04:41,240 因為公共設施真的很不足
00:04:41,240 00:04:45,240 機車這是在美國這種礦也可以起
00:04:45,240 00:04:49,240 在台灣這種人口密集的地方
00:04:49,240 00:04:51,240 非常危險
00:04:51,240 00:04:53,240 所以我幾乎在成大教書
00:04:53,240 00:04:57,240 每天出門都會看到機車的車禍
00:04:57,240 00:05:01,240 請問這個有勞動人權嗎
00:05:01,240 00:05:04,240 請問這個有勞動人權
00:05:04,240 00:05:08,240 是的勞工因為上下班
00:05:08,240 00:05:13,240 他造成的如果有通勤的直篩
00:05:13,240 00:05:16,240 這個問題其實在台灣
00:05:16,240 00:05:18,240 按照勞動的統計
00:05:18,240 00:05:20,240 在過去這一二十年
00:05:20,240 00:05:22,240 他沒有太大的改變
00:05:22,240 00:05:24,240 就是因為上下班通勤
00:05:24,240 00:05:26,240 而造成的直篩死亡人數
00:05:26,240 00:05:29,240 我前一陣子才做過這個統計
00:05:29,240 00:05:33,240 他大概每一年過去二三十年
00:05:33,240 00:05:36,240 大概每一年都三百人左右死亡
00:05:36,240 00:05:38,240 台南是第一對不對
00:05:38,240 00:05:41,240 上下班通勤還有執行職務的
00:05:41,240 00:05:43,240 在公路交通上
00:05:43,240 00:05:47,240 所以這個問題確實是勞工
00:05:47,240 00:05:48,240 因為上下班
00:05:48,240 00:05:51,240 然後造成的通勤的直篩的問題
00:05:51,240 00:05:53,240 確實大眾運輸的發展
00:05:53,240 00:05:56,240 我們知道大眾運輸的發展
00:05:56,240 00:06:00,240 可能可以有效的來抑制這樣的事情發生
00:06:00,240 00:06:03,240 但是我們知道除了這個
00:06:03,240 00:06:06,240 大台北地區或高雄以外
00:06:06,240 00:06:08,240 其實台灣其他的地方的
00:06:08,240 00:06:12,240 所謂的公共運輸發展還是不夠
00:06:12,240 00:06:14,240 造成勞工必須要用這個機制
00:06:14,240 00:06:16,240 尤其是台南市
00:06:16,240 00:06:19,240 車禍死亡率低
00:06:19,240 00:06:22,240 他的原因很明顯可以看得出來
00:06:22,240 00:06:25,240 所以公共建設非常的重要
00:06:25,240 00:06:29,240 所以您點出我要講的笑
00:06:29,240 00:06:32,240 您聽到這個故事不要笑
00:06:32,240 00:06:35,240 我有一次在台北有活動
00:06:35,240 00:06:38,240 搭最後一班高鐵回台南
00:06:38,240 00:06:40,240 已經沒有接駁車
00:06:40,240 00:06:43,240 這麼晚我也不想打擾我的助理
00:06:43,240 00:06:45,240 所以我就叫了計程車
00:06:45,240 00:06:48,240 從台南沙崙要回新市
00:06:48,240 00:06:51,240 我已經跟他講的是新市
00:06:51,240 00:06:53,240 結果計程車一直跳
00:06:53,240 00:06:55,240 跳跳跳跳到新化
00:06:55,240 00:06:57,240 到新市跟新化的交界
00:06:57,240 00:07:00,240 已經到700塊了
00:07:00,240 00:07:02,240 我跟司機講說
00:07:02,240 00:07:03,240 好啊好啊好啊
00:07:03,240 00:07:04,240 星期搞啊星期搞啊
00:07:04,240 00:07:06,240 真的是到了
00:07:06,240 00:07:09,240 我下車走路40分鐘
00:07:09,240 00:07:10,240 走到我家
00:07:10,240 00:07:12,240 你就笑了對不對
00:07:12,240 00:07:14,240 這是真實的故事
00:07:14,240 00:07:16,240 這是真實故事
00:07:16,240 00:07:20,240 這個高鐵站設在沙崙
00:07:20,240 00:07:23,240 本來是在新市火車站
00:07:23,240 00:07:26,240 要跟台鐵共構
00:07:26,240 00:07:29,240 如果這樣對南科的發展
00:07:29,240 00:07:31,240 更有國際貿易競爭力
00:07:31,240 00:07:34,240 台南人才真的有高鐵
00:07:34,240 00:07:38,240 但是當時因為有政治人物炒作地皮
00:07:38,240 00:07:41,240 要炒作沙崙附近的墳墓
00:07:41,240 00:07:45,240 硬把高鐵站拉到沙崙
00:07:45,240 00:07:48,240 所以使得台南人現在到台北
00:07:48,240 00:07:51,240 台北是最耗時的
00:07:51,240 00:07:53,240 比屏東不如
00:07:53,240 00:07:55,240 屏東你搭火車到左營
00:07:55,240 00:07:57,240 一下子一個半小時就要逃避
00:07:57,240 00:08:00,240 而我們台南人現在沒有高鐵
00:08:00,240 00:08:04,240 這個原因何在
00:08:04,240 00:08:06,240 我非常感佩委員
00:08:06,240 00:08:13,240 對於這種非都會區人民的運輸上的權利
00:08:13,240 00:08:16,240 那我們知道移動人權
00:08:16,240 00:08:22,240 實際上也是現在新興的人權標準的走向
00:08:22,240 00:08:24,240 所以移動人權
00:08:24,240 00:08:29,240 因為我們知道我們即使有非常多的政府相關的資源
00:08:29,240 00:08:31,240 不管是醫療還是社福資源
00:08:31,240 00:08:34,240 如果你移動上沒有辦法去達到的話
00:08:34,240 00:08:36,240 它的可近性很低的時候
00:08:36,240 00:08:39,240 譬如說你這些醫院可近性很低的話
00:08:39,240 00:08:43,240 也沒有辦法達到它的醫療效果
00:08:43,240 00:08:47,240 所以我們台灣非都會區的人民
00:08:47,240 00:08:51,240 所以台糖土地不只被賤賣
00:08:51,240 00:08:53,240 還被浪費
00:08:53,240 00:08:55,240 台糖土地成立南科
00:08:55,240 00:08:59,240 如果高鐵站如原來的設計
00:08:59,240 00:09:03,240 在新式火車站跟台鐵共過
00:09:03,240 00:09:07,240 我們台南現在的競爭力不是現在而已
00:09:07,240 00:09:11,240 而當時被政治人物
00:09:11,240 00:09:14,240 集體把他拉到沙崙
00:09:14,240 00:09:18,240 而我們新式組成一個自救會
00:09:18,240 00:09:21,240 但是新式因為諸一貴事件
00:09:21,240 00:09:25,240 鮮民被屠殺所以人口非常稀少
00:09:25,240 00:09:27,240 日本人來調查人口
00:09:27,240 00:09:31,240 新式的人口只贏南化跟龍旗
00:09:31,240 00:09:34,240 所以我們只能選出一個縣議員
00:09:34,240 00:09:37,240 縣議員保不住這個高鐵站
00:09:37,240 00:09:40,240 我是新式第一個立法委員
00:09:40,240 00:09:42,240 但是that is too late
00:09:42,240 00:09:43,240 太慢了
00:09:43,240 00:09:47,240 所以您如果成為監察委員
00:09:47,240 00:09:50,240 要不要去調查該弊案
00:09:50,240 00:09:56,240 是誰強把高鐵站從新式拉到沙崙
00:09:56,240 00:09:59,240 加以成案加以調查
00:09:59,240 00:10:02,240 給我台南人一個高鐵站
00:10:02,240 00:10:06,240 一個真相一個公平的待遇
00:10:07,240 00:10:09,240 我想如果委員
00:10:09,240 00:10:12,240 因為委員也是代表龐大的名義
00:10:12,240 00:10:16,240 委員如果檢具相關的事證的話
00:10:16,240 00:10:20,240 我想監察委員面對各式各樣民眾的審計
00:10:20,240 00:10:24,240 我們都會非常嚴肅的立案來調查
00:10:24,240 00:10:27,240 特別是這種剛才委員說到的
00:10:27,240 00:10:30,240 涉及到交通這種偏嚴
00:10:33,240 00:10:35,240 謝謝許若閔