| IVOD_ID |
170904 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170904 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-11 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-11T14:59:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-11T15:10:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a2ba9baf79443361e8de38c616127a1b22f260bc4224891a8aadb4d5ba591282c86df9d5e1265cba5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許忠信 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:59:47 - 15:10:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第2次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為監察院第六屆監察委員任期於115年7月31日屆滿。茲依據憲法增修條文第7條第2項、監察院組織法第3條之1及監察院國家人權委員會組織法第3條規定，提名陳永興、王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬、陳景峻、彭紹瑾、廖婉汝、葉宜津、林麗瑩、侯廷昌、李光章、林文程、賴鼎銘、邱駿彥、徐光蓉、邱泰源、賴振昌、莊勝榮、吳梓生、王志誠、Iban Nokan、謝政達、林佳範、許有為、趙卿惠29位為監察院第七屆監察委員，並以陳永興為院長兼任監察院國家人權委員會主任委員、王榮璋為副院長；王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬7位適用監察院組織法第3條之1第1項第7款資格，咨請同意案（本案經本院第11屆第5會期第15次會議決定，有關總統提名廖婉汝、謝政達為第七屆監察委員部分，毋庸處理，其餘交全院委員會審查）。） |
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0 |
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主席 |
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20.68 |
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各位同仁 我們邀請高牧師 |
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20.68 |
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23.4 |
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我們請高貝提名人 |
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23.4 |
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25.4 |
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請 |
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27.24 |
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28.12 |
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高牧師好 |
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28.12 |
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29.12 |
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好 |
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30.12 |
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33.64 |
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我非常尊重高牧師 |
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33.64 |
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40.64 |
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其實我天底下最尊重兩位高牧師 |
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40.64 |
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42.36 |
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一位是您 |
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42.36 |
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47 |
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另外一位是高俊明牧師 |
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47 |
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51.32 |
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所以我今天對您的期許非常的高 |
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51.32 |
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54.64 |
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我們高俊明牧師 |
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54.64 |
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58.52 |
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在我們臺灣民主的歷史上 |
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58.52 |
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61.12 |
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地位非常的崇高 |
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61.12 |
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64.28 |
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所以我稱呼您高牧師 |
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64.28 |
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69.52 |
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是對您極度的尊重 |
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69.52 |
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75.36 |
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但是高牧師在十幾年前 |
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75.36 |
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80.2 |
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我在成大教書 |
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80.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
85.72 |
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他成立一個騰襲臺灣促進會 |
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85.72 |
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92.04 |
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這個會是由我們臺南地區所有的 |
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92.04 |
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100 |
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最受地方得望的社團負責人 |
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100 |
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102.84 |
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地方意見領袖所組成 |
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102.84 |
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108.24 |
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所以他在總理餐廳開了一個演講會 |
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108.24 |
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113.4 |
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專程邀請我去做演講 |
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114.28 |
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118.96 |
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當時去車站接我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
118.96 |
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121.84 |
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是高牧師的一個助理 |
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121.84 |
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124.8 |
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叫做邱麗麗 |
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124.8 |
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130.32 |
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現在是我們臺南市的議長邱麗麗 |
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130.32 |
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132.6 |
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我在演講的時候 |
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132.6 |
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137.84 |
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剛好我們賴清德立委也來參與 |
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137.84 |
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141.36 |
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所以我把麥克風撥十分鐘 |
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141.36 |
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147.68 |
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讓賴立委在我身邊演講了十分鐘 |
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147.68 |
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155.08 |
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那麼邱麗麗在我們高牧師旁邊的屁印 |
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155.08 |
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161.92 |
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應該是要做對我們臺灣非常有利的事情 |
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161.92 |
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167.76 |
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結果高麗麗在臺南 |
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167.8 |
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173.92 |
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現在這個議長他有兩個傳聞 |
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173.92 |
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一個我有明確證據今天會來跟你請教 |
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178.6 |
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189.52 |
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另外很聳動是一個運家具的司機跟我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
189.52 |
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191.4 |
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我沒有證據 |
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191.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
195.88 |
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但是我給你分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
195.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
199.44 |
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我們三立的創辦人林坤海 |
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199.44 |
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202.48 |
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他的豪宅訂了一批家具 |
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202.48 |
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204.76 |
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由他運送 |
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204.76 |
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209.96 |
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開門的竟然是邱麗麗穿著睡衣 |
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209.96 |
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211.8 |
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這個我只是傳聞 |
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211.8 |
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214 |
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我沒有證據 |
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214 |
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218.24 |
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但是我現在要請教高牧師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
218.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
226.4 |
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邱麗麗在這一次議長的選舉上 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
226.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
231.76 |
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被檢察官起訴彙選 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
231.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
而一審二審都判她無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
240.08 |
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一審判她無罪 |
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240.08 |
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243.04 |
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二審也判她無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
246.76 |
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但是這個法官我從法學上去看 |
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246.8 |
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254.68 |
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她的認識用法很顯然明顯違背法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
254.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
258.52 |
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這個包庇邱麗麗 |
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258.52 |
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266.36 |
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因為邱麗麗現在住在我們台南市的北區的豪宅 |
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266.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
269.4 |
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同一棟豪宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
269.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
274.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
住著學甲被開88槍的郭在青 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
274.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
277.64 |
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兩個住在同一個豪宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
277.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
280 |
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他們是好朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
284.16 |
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晚上有沒有串門子我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
284.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
287.08 |
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他們兩個關係非同小可 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
287.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
292.68 |
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所以郭在青在電話中跟一位楊志強說 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
292.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
295.6 |
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這兩天出來講一下 |
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295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
301.92 |
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結果法官跟安振懷說只是看看選情的場面化 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
301.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
307.04 |
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其實郭在青邀楊志強出來談的事情 |
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307.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
309.36 |
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是跟第二點有關 |
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309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
314.2 |
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也就是我們台南西港地區的一位議員方一芳 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
314.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
319.44 |
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方一芳在偵查中已經承認了 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
319.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
323.28 |
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這位楊志強說要給他錢 |
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323.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
327.32 |
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而且還透過各種機制要確保一定會給 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
327.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
331.04 |
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方一芳已經承認了 |
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331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
335.84 |
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然後檢方也監聽邱立立 |
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335.84 |
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340.28 |
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而且監聽到關鍵的對話 |
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340.28 |
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348.04 |
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結果我們院方竟然質疑這個關鍵的錄音 |
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348.04 |
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349.88 |
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沒有承報 |
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349.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
351.8 |
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沒有依法承報 |
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351.8 |
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356.56 |
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就是說這個關鍵錄音所得的證據 |
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356.56 |
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359.88 |
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是沒有證據能力的 |
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359.92 |
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362.76 |
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也就是毒素的果子 |
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362.76 |
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364.36 |
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沒有證據能力 |
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364.36 |
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366.16 |
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就因為第三點 |
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366.16 |
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369.2 |
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他認為證據上能力有瑕疵 |
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369.2 |
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371.6 |
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但是他有證明力 |
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371.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
373.2 |
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他沒有證據能力 |
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373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
375.84 |
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但是他有證明的能力 |
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375.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
377.2 |
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他沒有證明能力 |
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377.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
377.76 |
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證據能力 |
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377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
379.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
但是他有證據力 |
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379.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
383.8 |
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他跟第一點跟第二點加起來 |
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383.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
387.8 |
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就可以百分之百的明證 |
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387.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
391.2 |
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邱立立議長選舉會選 |
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391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
395.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
結果有一股力量讓我們的一審法院 |
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395.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
401.48 |
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二審法院認為邱立立會選不成立 |
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401.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
404.72 |
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我們臺南人沒有一個人信服 |
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404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
408.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
我們臺南人沒有一個人信服 |
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408.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
415.36 |
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因為那個幾乎是很多人都知道的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
415.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
416.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
高牧師 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
416.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
你如果成為監察委員 |
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419.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
423.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
願不願意替臺南人申這個冤 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
423.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
去彈劾這些法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
430.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
為什麼會做出這樣一個違背 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
430.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
434.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
認識用法證據法則的一個判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
434.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
而讓我們臺南市的議長 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
444.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
輪入這樣一個寄生在高牧師身邊的一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
444.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
449.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
來辯定我們臺南市議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
449.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
450.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
你願不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
450.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
452.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
如果當監委的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
452.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
453.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
455.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
特別感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
455.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
459.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
尤其是特別提到我們懷念的高牧師 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
459.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
462.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
那高牧師過去對原住民來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
462.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
464.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
是一個非常大的一個貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
464.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
467.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
那剛剛所提到這樣的一個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
467.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
那我深信 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
471.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
如果到這個監察院的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
471.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
473.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
一定再次發揮那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
473.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
調查的那種工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
然後做出公義的一個判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
481.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
因為畢竟監察院有一點就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
481.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
483.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
實行公義的一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
483.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
所以表示高牧師你是同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
非常謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
491.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
那麼除了議長以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
491.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
494.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
我們來看看我們的臺南市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
494.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
也就是我們臺南市政 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
497.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
現在臺南議會以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
497.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
501.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
臺南市長黃偉哲 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
501.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
他在大學時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
504.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
根據您所曾經擔任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
轉型正義委員會的學術研討會 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
所提出來的研討會的補充資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
518.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
一本這麼大本 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
518.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
521.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
我把他讀完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
521.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
524.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
A143 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
524.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
農推系學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
積極聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
533.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
去監視他的社團同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
533.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
538.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
做報告還被認為表現優良 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
538.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
我當時根據這一份資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
544.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
因為我跟黃偉哲 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
544.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我找他一年在臺大 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
551.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
所以那份資料裡面所寫的時間地點教室 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
551.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
我非常熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
所以我就一口咬定 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
556.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
A143 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
560.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
就是黃偉哲市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
560.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
結果前一陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
569.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
又有一個中文的文獻在網路上流傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
569.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
就明白地寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
黃偉哲就是農推系的部建學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
調查局的部建學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
582.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
請問高牧師 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
582.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
會在學生時代出賣他的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
出賣他的好友 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
590.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
他會對我們臺南市政積極的認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
598.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
好好的去做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
598.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
會出賣自己朋友的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
會對我們這個國家盡忠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
盡職嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
如果您當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
611.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
有更明確的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
611.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
614.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
我相信你應該會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
614.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
你應該會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
619.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
這就是我們臺南市現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
619.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
621.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
為什麼被臺中超越 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
621.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
為什麼現在被桃園超越的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
626.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
629.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
所以這是在轉型正義委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
629.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
631.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
所發生的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
631.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
632.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
今天提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
632.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
633.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
636.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
好 謝謝 |