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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:14,000 | 主席各位同仁大家好我們請背提名人 |
| 00:00:15,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 我們請背提名人 |
| 00:00:29,000 | 00:00:32,000 | 我們要背提名人你好 |
| 00:00:34,000 | 00:00:39,000 | 今天我想就關於監察院相關的議題 |
| 00:00:39,000 | 00:00:44,000 | 在職權的這個部分還有在關於查查的這個部分 |
| 00:00:44,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 跟您做個請教 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:49,000 | 那就本席對您資料的瞭解 |
| 00:00:49,000 | 00:00:52,000 | 因為您應該是玉山神學院畢業的 |
| 00:00:52,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 您有在玉神對吧 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 有過嗎 |
| 00:00:58,000 | 00:00:59,000 | 是嗎 |
| 00:00:59,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 是 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:02,000 | 因為我過去也在那邊教書了 |
| 00:01:02,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 所以對玉神也有一些瞭解 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:07,000 | 所以有一些相關的這個背景 |
| 00:01:07,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 所以本席就要針對有關於監察院的這個職權 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:17,000 | 和我們原住民族的權益這邊來跟您做一個請教 |
| 00:01:17,000 | 00:01:21,000 | 首先本席請教有關於監察院最基本的問題 |
| 00:01:21,000 | 00:01:27,000 | 那麼面對社會長期存在著廢除監察院的主張 |
| 00:01:27,000 | 00:01:30,000 | 那您個人的立場是什麼 |
| 00:01:30,000 | 00:01:35,000 | 你認為監察院在現在五權憲政的架構之下 |
| 00:01:35,000 | 00:01:38,000 | 最不可被取代的功能是什麼 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 好謝謝委員 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:47,000 | 那在這個地方監察院的這個除非與否 |
| 00:01:47,000 | 00:01:51,000 | 與否就是目前很熱門的一個議題 |
| 00:01:51,000 | 00:01:55,000 | 那在我的這種認知上 |
| 00:01:55,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 因為這個監察院是屬於憲政城市的核心議題 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 那在那個徵修條文也明定憲政體制更是一個 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:17,000 | 變更這個憲政體制更是一個非常重大的議題 |
| 00:02:17,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 現在我們還沒有提到變更的問題 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:25,000 | 所以你認為監察院最不可以被取代的功能是什麼 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:31,000 | 監察院被取代的功能 |
| 00:02:31,000 | 00:02:33,000 | 最不能被取代的功能 |
| 00:02:33,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 我深信這個監察院它有具備的一個功能 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:43,000 | 如果按照這個監察法我們在看的時候 |
| 00:02:43,000 | 00:02:49,000 | 真的是一個國家一個非常重要的一個最高機構 |
| 00:02:49,000 | 00:02:56,000 | 可以監察各個這個院會所謂的五權分立 |
| 00:02:56,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 所以監察院要監督跟查查五權正義這是您的看法嗎 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:05,000 | 所以它們最不能被取代的功能是這樣 |
| 00:03:05,000 | 00:03:10,000 | 這個是我尊重因為畢竟我不是在這個地方在做研究 |
| 00:03:10,000 | 00:03:17,000 | 那我非常會尊重國會的這一個是倡議還是議決 |
| 00:03:17,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 或者是公民的這種想法 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:23,000 | 如果您尊重國會的議決的話 |
| 00:03:23,000 | 00:03:26,000 | 那本席這邊先做一個背景的說明 |
| 00:03:26,000 | 00:03:31,000 | 然後我們就針對您剛才談到的尊重國會的議決 |
| 00:03:31,000 | 00:03:33,000 | 所以本席用這個問題打頭陣 |
| 00:03:33,000 | 00:03:36,000 | 是因為第六屆的這個監委的表現 |
| 00:03:36,000 | 00:03:41,000 | 讓社會對於監察制度有很大的疑慮 |
| 00:03:41,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 這個部分包括不知道你們知不知道在第六屆的監察委員 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 其實大量的使用一些委託調查 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:55,000 | 那我想監察委員本身應該有調查的能力 |
| 00:03:55,000 | 00:03:57,000 | 也有調查的權力 |
| 00:03:57,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 但是如果監察委員用太大量的委託調查 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:05,000 | 那你覺得監察委員自己的功能又是什麼 |
| 00:04:05,000 | 00:04:07,000 | 那除了這點之外 |
| 00:04:07,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 我想您也知道有關於一些公務車的爭議 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:14,000 | 那麼院會經常開會很短就結束了 |
| 00:04:14,000 | 00:04:16,000 | 那本席要請你思考一下 |
| 00:04:16,000 | 00:04:20,000 | 如果人民看到一個應該監督政府的憲政機關 |
| 00:04:20,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 最重要是監督政府 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 這個應該是監察院不能被取代的功能 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 那自己卻不斷發生了行政管理 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 公務資源使用甚至職權使用行使的效能上的爭議 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:37,000 | 那麼人民為什麼要相信監察院 |
| 00:04:37,000 | 00:04:39,000 | 所以如果你有機會成為監察委員 |
| 00:04:39,000 | 00:04:42,000 | 你認為第七屆監察委員最需要檢討的 |
| 00:04:42,000 | 00:04:45,000 | 跟要被改變的是什麼 |
| 00:04:45,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 怎麼樣做才能讓人民來相信監察院 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 那所以本席要用最近的案例 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 跟您做一下提點 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 剛才問題的一個補充 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:57,000 | 所以最近行政院長對於立法院 |
| 00:04:57,000 | 00:05:01,000 | 三讀通過的裁劃法採取不附屬的方式 |
| 00:05:01,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 使法律無法完成公布施行程序 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 造成行政跟立法權的憲政衝突 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:12,000 | 立法院的司法及法治委員會也決議 |
| 00:05:12,000 | 00:05:15,000 | 已請監察院處理彈劾 |
| 00:05:15,000 | 00:05:21,000 | 那之後更有立法委員正式向監察院來遞交懲情書 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:25,000 | 要求調查行政院長有沒有涉及重大為師 |
| 00:05:25,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 結果等了七個多月 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 那最近監察院回覆說不予立案調查 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:33,000 | 甚至連具體的理由都沒有 |
| 00:05:33,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 你認為這樣的處理方式 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:37,000 | 監察院作為最高監察機關 |
| 00:05:37,000 | 00:05:39,000 | 這是應有的責任嗎 |
| 00:05:39,000 | 00:05:41,000 | 好 |
| 00:05:41,000 | 00:05:46,000 | 那關於這個剛剛所說的第六屆的 |
| 00:05:46,000 | 00:05:51,000 | 關於這個案件的多廣 |
| 00:05:51,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 也就是你覺得如果您被選上了 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 那麼第七屆的監察委員 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:58,000 | 這應該要改變什麼 |
| 00:05:58,000 | 00:06:00,000 | 才能夠讓大家幸福 |
| 00:06:00,000 | 00:06:02,000 | 那本席剛才用剛才剛有了這個案例 |
| 00:06:02,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 跟您做個補充 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 所以您的看法是如何 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 所以本庭的人士也是一個非常深切 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 瞭解國家機關 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:15,000 | 都背負了一個公眾的托付 |
| 00:06:15,000 | 00:06:19,000 | 所以你覺得監察院應不應該要立案調查 |
| 00:06:19,000 | 00:06:21,000 | 剛才本席講的這個案例 |
| 00:06:21,000 | 00:06:23,000 | 剛剛關於這個人事問題 |
| 00:06:23,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 我比較困難做回應 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:27,000 | 因為好像 |
| 00:06:27,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 應該不是人事問題 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 這個是立法院送了一個案到監察院 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:35,000 | 那監察院回覆不立案調查 |
| 00:06:35,000 | 00:06:40,000 | 那您覺得這個監察院這樣子的回覆恰當嗎 |
| 00:06:40,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 因為關於這個 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:48,000 | 所以你這個一定要實際的瞭解整個內容跟來龍去脈 |
| 00:06:48,000 | 00:06:51,000 | 那這個地方深度瞭解的時候 |
| 00:06:51,000 | 00:06:55,000 | 你才可以有一個比較正確的回應 |
| 00:06:55,000 | 00:06:59,000 | 這個案子應該是最近大家蠻熟知的 |
| 00:06:59,000 | 00:07:01,000 | 也就是立法院立案 |
| 00:07:01,000 | 00:07:03,000 | 我們也確定了這個案 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:05,000 | 我們送到了監察院去 |
| 00:07:05,000 | 00:07:06,000 | 結果監察院回覆 |
| 00:07:06,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 那不立案調查 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:11,000 | 所以如果您是一個監察委員 |
| 00:07:11,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 針對人民或者是公務體系 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:17,000 | 覺得不公義 |
| 00:07:17,000 | 00:07:20,000 | 然後而送出的希望監察院來立案 |
| 00:07:20,000 | 00:07:22,000 | 但是你們回覆了不立案調查 |
| 00:07:22,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 您覺得這樣子是恰當的嗎 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:27,000 | 還是一樣 |
| 00:07:27,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 我也有看到這樣的一個文本 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:31,000 | 所以你覺得 |
| 00:07:31,000 | 00:07:35,000 | 如果您有機會當監察委員的話 |
| 00:07:35,000 | 00:07:36,000 | 針對這個案 |
| 00:07:36,000 | 00:07:37,000 | 那您覺得要立案調查嗎 |
| 00:07:37,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 我想內文都非常清楚了 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:41,000 | 如果有機會 |
| 00:07:41,000 | 00:07:44,000 | 有這個榮幸當監察委員的時候 |
| 00:07:44,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 一定是會去深度瞭解 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:51,000 | 然後大家都會去深度瞭解的 |
| 00:07:51,000 | 00:07:53,000 | 因為深度瞭解很重要 |
| 00:07:53,000 | 00:07:56,000 | 你會不會花很多時間在深度瞭解 |
| 00:07:56,000 | 00:08:00,000 | 但是可能答案沒有辦法在一定的時間內給 |
| 00:08:00,000 | 00:08:01,000 | 會不會 |
| 00:08:01,000 | 00:08:03,000 | 您思考一下 |
| 00:08:03,000 | 00:08:05,000 | 那針對這案 |
| 00:08:05,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 如果我們沒有得到你的答案 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:08,000 | 那我們也很難知道您的態度是什麼 |
| 00:08:08,000 | 00:08:09,000 | 我比較可惜 |
| 00:08:09,000 | 00:08:12,000 | 因為這個案是最近大家都討論的 |
| 00:08:12,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 所以也希望您針對這個案 |
| 00:08:14,000 | 00:08:17,000 | 能夠有一個態度跟想法 |
| 00:08:17,000 | 00:08:18,000 | 好 |
| 00:08:18,000 | 00:08:22,000 | 那接下來本席就針對有關於原住民的議題來 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:24,000 | 跟您就教 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:30,000 | 我相信你我身為一個原住民 |
| 00:08:30,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 對原住民的這個正義一定是非常重視的 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 剛才本席問您的是 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 有關於監察院對行政院或者是立法院 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 或者是其他的寺院有相關的為師 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:46,000 | 有提出一些案件的請求 |
| 00:08:46,000 | 00:08:49,000 | 但是可能您的態度還不太明 |
| 00:08:49,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 您說要深入的瞭解 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 但是我相信長期在原住民的領域裡面 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 你對於源泉運動應該是非常瞭解的 |
| 00:08:57,000 | 00:08:58,000 | 對不對 |
| 00:08:59,000 | 00:09:02,000 | 那您大概對於原住民的議題 |
| 00:09:02,000 | 00:09:06,000 | 您最關注的可不可以在十秒鐘之內 |
| 00:09:06,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 跟本席講您關注的這個議題 |
| 00:09:11,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 原住民您關注的議題 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:14,000 | 好 |
| 00:09:14,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 那針對這個議題也是一樣 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 這個可能就是要更深入去瞭解 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:24,000 | 您已經有這個經驗了 |
| 00:09:24,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 您還要再深入的瞭解 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:29,000 | 您的經驗裡面對原住民 |
| 00:09:29,000 | 00:09:31,000 | 我想您剛才其實在回答前一位委員 |
| 00:09:31,000 | 00:09:34,000 | 都有講到一些 |
| 00:09:34,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 只是本席要跟您再確認 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:38,000 | 所以其實您有一些關注的議題 |
| 00:09:38,000 | 00:09:40,000 | 但是您剛才可能對本席的這個問題 |
| 00:09:40,000 | 00:09:42,000 | 也有一些想法 |
| 00:09:42,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 所以也沒有回應 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:46,000 | 本席想要跟您請教 |
| 00:09:46,000 | 00:09:48,000 | 我想您先前是在原轉會 |
| 00:09:48,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 那應該您在原轉會做一些努力 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:53,000 | 但是本席剛才其實也給您一些機會 |
| 00:09:53,000 | 00:09:55,000 | 來針對您的努力 |
| 00:09:55,000 | 00:09:57,000 | 做一些確認 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:10:00,000 | 但是這個部分本席沒有聽到答案 |
| 00:10:00,000 | 00:10:01,000 | 那本席就先問您 |
| 00:10:01,000 | 00:10:03,000 | 你也看到本席的牌子這邊談到 |
| 00:10:03,000 | 00:10:05,000 | 原住民的民族正義 |
| 00:10:05,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 你如果有機會做為監察委員 |
| 00:10:07,000 | 00:10:11,000 | 你要如何處理蔡英文總統已經答應 |
| 00:10:11,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 而且跟原住民道歉 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:15,000 | 但是行政單位一直沒有送出 |
| 00:10:15,000 | 00:10:19,000 | 原住民的土地權法自治法的問題 |
| 00:10:19,000 | 00:10:20,000 | 第二 |
| 00:10:20,000 | 00:10:21,000 | 您在原轉會的時候 |
| 00:10:21,000 | 00:10:23,000 | 在2017年 |
| 00:10:23,000 | 00:10:25,000 | 保奈還有馬耀等族人 |
| 00:10:25,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 在228公園對於我們土地權的伸張 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:32,000 | 您這邊都沒有做出任何的回應 |
| 00:10:32,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 您對這個部分 |
| 00:10:53,000 | 00:11:11,000 | 好 |
| 00:11:11,000 | 00:11:13,000 | 那個我們時間到了 |
| 00:11:13,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 是不是請 |